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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, This is Maut and Gold from depeche Mode. Alright,
this is Died Gone from depeche Mode, and you are
listening to my word Roan and it's depeche Mode the podcast.
Welcome Devots, and I thank you so much for checking

(00:26):
out another episode.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I wished that I wasn't starting this show in the
same fashion as I was just a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
But unfortunately, as I'm sure you are very well aware,
tragedy has struck once again, this time not close to
home here in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where I live, but in
Utah with the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. I've

(01:00):
mentioned before on the show my full time job as
a news talk radio show host. This tragedy hits close
to home for me. Regardless of what you believe, we
should be allowed to disagree. I mean, listen. It was
not to be cliche or cheesy, but one of you

(01:26):
know the songs that put are beloved Depeche Mode on
the map was people Are People, even though the band
has distanced itself from that song, which I find rather interesting.
Excuse me when you consider the similarities with People Are
Good as well, which I always looked at to be

(01:46):
a modern companion to people are people. But you know,
that's what Martin wrote about, you know, and people are people,
So why should it be that you and I should
get along so awfully? So that being said, I got
very little sleep last night having to prepare to do
my weekly radio show this morning, and I didn't want

(02:09):
to let a week go by without doing a podcast,
and I do have some things Depeche Mode related to
share with you. This will be a relatively short episode
like it was a few weeks ago on my apologies
for that, but again, I enjoyed doing the show and
I didn't want to go without doing a show this week.
And it's relevant because once again Depeche Mode is a

(02:36):
provider of comfort. I labeled it this week's episode. You know,
DM and Tragedy a friend in need and they've always
been there through their music and they were this morning
as well. So this week I'd been listening to some
albums that I really had not listened to from top
to bottom for quite a long time, starting with Playing

(02:59):
the Playing the Angel came out at a time during
my radio career. We were living in Grand Rapids, Michigan
at the time, and it was a very rough sort
of moment year. That year was really rough, and unfortunately,
when you go through those times and you end up
listening to something over and over again, often we end

(03:22):
up being attached via nostalgia to whatever feelings that we
had at the time when we were listening to that album.
More recently, it was The Church's album Screen Violence. A
few years ago, leading up to the passing of my
best friend Drew, I was going through another very rough

(03:43):
time in my life, mostly due to health concerns. I
absolutely love that album by Churches, but I cannot listen
to it because every time I do, I'm reminded of
how I felt during that period of time, and the
same thing has been true for Playing the Angel. That
being said, I was incredibly pleased to discover that those

(04:03):
feelings that had been attached to listening to that collection
of songs had dissipated greatly, and I really found myself
enjoying the album in a way that I hadn't since
going all the way back to it's released those many
many years ago. Although I will say it's interesting with
Playing the Angel because it is such a solid, you know,

(04:28):
two thirds of the album, it's just the last the
last handful of songs just do not resonate and grab
me the way that the opening handful of songs do.
I'm gonna give it another listen, though, because it's not
an album that I've revisited very often apart from the
singles for the reasons that I mentioned, But again, I

(04:50):
found myself enjoying it so much. I'm like, man, I
really need to spend some more time with this. So
I followed that up with Delta Machine, because that too,
being an album that I, you know, listen to a
lot during its release and the subsequent tour that followed,
but I hadn't spent much time with it since then,
and again enjoyed the album immensely, so I was really

(05:11):
looking forward to listening to Spirit right, obviously much more
familiar with that album considering that, you know, it's the
last release prior to Memento MORII, and there was such
a distance between Spirit and Memento Moury that, even though
it's not one of my favorite albums by any stretch,
I had spent a lot of time with Spirit. That

(05:31):
being said, this horrific event took place at this Utah
University yesterday on Wednesday, and as I got into the
car this morning, I needed to disconnect from all the
coverage as I was staying up to date on everything
that was going on, and decided I needed to listen
to some music on the way In Spirit was the

(05:54):
perfect album to listen to. Now. Granted I skipped around
a bit, but the songs really really resonated with me.
Martin Gore's ability, along with Dave with some of his
some of his songs, but Martin specifically Martin Gore's ability
to create these timeless tracks that are so relatable inasmuch

(06:20):
as there's some ambiguity to them where you can, you know,
apply real world, real world circumstances. And certainly the album
itself was focused more on politics, the politics of the day,
going back to twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, but absolutely resonate
with what's taking place right now, and specifically listening to

(06:44):
Going Backwards, an incredible anthem in and of itself, that
a song that I absolutely love, but just lyrically speaking,
just hit home with what was going on and was
providing the perfect tharsis as I was heading in to
do my radio show, The Worst Crime, which was a

(07:07):
song that oddly I didn't like it all when it
was released, and it was like this switch was flipped
at one point in listening to that song, and suddenly
it became one of my favorites. I just absolutely loved
that track. And again this morning listening to it, I

(07:27):
just I found myself singing in the car on the
way in and thinking about what had transpired and in
the course of you know, fifteen sixteen hours and consuming
all of the horrific news yesterday and moving through I
listened to it. Poison Hard is one of my favorite

(07:48):
I mean, that's gotta be in my top fifteen, close
to top ten favorite Depeche Mode songs. If just for
the breakdown, you know, we've been walking, you know, down
this cold and icy road. That moment in the song,
it just goosebumps every time I hear it. But then

(08:12):
getting to the final track of Fail and again just
another track that resonated with me, that provided yet another
example of Depeche Mode carrying me through a difficult moment
in my you know, in my life, you know, in

(08:33):
this case, one having to deal with the politics of
the day and more closely aligned with what I do
on a regular basis, and I wanted to share that
with you today. I hate to be such a downer,
I really do. And I struggled with sitting down and
do the show today because I'm like, my gosh, man,

(08:54):
I just I don't want to come on here so negative.
But I also don't want to do you know, don't
want to not do a sh show for those that
expect it every week, because I know how disappointing it
can be when you're anticipating something that you enjoy and
it's part of your routine. So you know, with that,
thank you for allowing me the opportunity to share this,

(09:14):
to share this with you once again on the show.
And yeah, so just thank you. And you know, as
I as I you know, typically close the show out,
I'll do that again today. I do a few other
things that I want to share with you, and do
want to cover some listener feedback that rolled in this week.
But you know, take a moment and just hug your

(09:37):
loved ones and those around you, and you know, let's
let's let's heed the words of Martin Gore, you know
on both people are good. You know, I'm both lyrically
relating to people are good and and and remember you
know there's evil in the world, but a lot of
times people are just horribly you know, misguided, and so certainly,

(10:01):
you know, the words of people are people for as
cheesy and sort of poppy as I know Martin has
complained about that song, it certainly does speak to our
to our times and something that I think everybody could
go and take a cue from in this in these
very very trying times. So we're just a few days

(10:24):
out from the on sale for Depeche Mode M. It
was announced that it will be featured on some IMAX screens.
I do not believe that they have released exactly where
the film will be shown yet. As a matter of fact,

(10:44):
let me go ahead, and while I am in the
middle of recording, let me go ahead and take a look.
I'm heading over. I'm on the website now, and yeah,
it does not look. It does not appear yet as
if they have. Yeah, they have not released exactly where,
because these will be limited screenings on October twenty eighth.

(11:04):
I still am anticipating, and I have no I have
no basis of interest, I have no basis of fact
for this. It's just my gut, my gut feeling. I'm
still anticipating that for the marking the occasion of the
on sale next week, that they'll release in the end

(11:26):
as a single, And it would make sense because you
know your singles typically in the past. I don't know
how true this is anymore, but typically they would come
out on Tuesdays, and the seventeenth is Wednesday, so it
would make sense that there would be a final push
to get everybody to go purchase the tickets online by
promoting in the end as a single. This could be

(11:49):
also just me attempting to will it into be because
I absolutely love that song. I listened to it every
single day, the copy that I shared with you on
the show previously, so I will I've penciled in to
do a special bonus show next week. I don't know
if it will be the show of the week or

(12:09):
if I'll just do a shorter one to mark the
the on sale date. And certainly if in the end
does drop or those other three tracks that we've been
waiting for, just another reason for me to to pop
on and and share my thoughts with you. So we
will see how that shakes out around the on sale
date for the Depeche Mode film, you know which I'm

(12:34):
incredibly excited to go see as we can begin to
sort of count down the days for its its big
screen release. And with that, let's go ahead and do
get to your listener feedback. This week. I did get
a handful of comments from you. It's always appreciate, appreciated.

(12:55):
You can always leave a comment up on YouTube or
email me Talk Show Nerd at gmail dot com. First
we hear from a Tiny House Mike who says this,
thank you, John for keeping us devotees in the loop.
I stumbled across your podcast when there were rumors of
Depeche Mode working on a new album, which we now
know was Memento MORI have been a loyal fan ever since.

(13:18):
I remember when I was seven years old, spending the
week at my aunt's house that summer of eighty seven,
and my older cousins were listening to Depeche Mode on vinyl.
The song that got me hooked was Satellite. I remember
hearing that deep bass beat with all types of different sounds.
I was an instant fan from that point forward. I

(13:39):
was lucky enough to grow up with other Depeche Mode
fans near me, so I was always being exposed to
their favorite music. My first Depeche Mode album was Violator,
still my favorite to this day. But I find myself
listening to Black Celebration and Memento Moriy in its entirety.
I do is I do as well. I'm lucky enough

(14:01):
to be able to listen to music while I'm at work.
I've really gravitated towards those two albums. Once in a while,
I'll mix it up and listen to the other albums
in no specific order. I'm looking forward to the new
m film coming out soon. My eleven year old daughter
and I will be in the theater watching this film.
My daughter's favorite album is Black Celebration. We had a

(14:21):
road trip from Tennessee to California a few years ago
when we listened, and all we listened to was complete
Depeche Mode albums. Thank you for letting me share my experience,
and thank you for what you do, you know, And
to that, Mike, thank you for that and the kind words.
Going back to what I said last week and what
I mentioned earlier, listening to Depeche Mode again as I

(14:45):
did when I was younger, and that was the albums
in their entirety, as I've done this week. Yeah, just again,
I want to trend back to doing that, not just
with Depeche Mode, but other albums as well. Our attention
is so fragmented now and we have so many options
to be entertained, and I think it's amazing the power

(15:08):
of Depeche Mode's music. Obviously been a focus on the
show this week, but to be able to go back
and listen as we did when we were younger and
not segmenting our music listening, I mean, and to each
their own. I'm sure I'm going to continue to do that,
and I do, but I had really gotten away from
listening to the albums and their entirety like I would

(15:28):
go and watch a movie, and returning to that trend
for lack of a way to better habit right has
proved to be incredibly enjoyable. Sherry Bell writes this, I
say you name your new wheels Martin slick, totally cool, dark,

(15:49):
assuming the car is kind of black and not without
its drama. Seems like Martin g to a t just
to thought enjoyed the podcast all right, So I got
my back from the shop. It's a twenty twenty three
Kia Stinger. The color of the car is pantheram metal.
So it's black, but it's not black. It's more like

(16:10):
a gun metal gray. It's black, but it's I think
I had described it last week on the show. If
if you had candy Apple red, but you made candy
Apple red black, that's what the color of the car is,
because I would never go and purchase a straight black car. This, however,
in the sun, looks really really cool, and I was

(16:31):
calling it Black Celebration, but unfortunately my wife vetoed it.
She didn't like calling it black celebration. She likes Depeche
Mode not as much as I do, and isn't as
sentimental along those lines as I am. So we've been
kicking around ideas. We decided we needed to name it
a female name. I could go with Lilly and I suppose,

(16:55):
or any of any of the different names from Breathe.
Right at this point in time, we're called a Trinity,
and that's based off of The Matrix, a film that
I love. I'm still haven't I still haven't completely landed
on that yet. I still like black Celebration, but I
guess I can internally call a black celebration. But we
name all of our cars. So the car that my

(17:16):
son inherited from me while he purchased it from me.
I called a Junior because I'm a massive Dale Earnhard
Junior fan because I'm a NASCAR fan. So thank you
for the suggestion. I like it, but I think I'm
going to give it a female name, so I'm still
working on a Sherry Bell. But thank you for listening,
and I appreciate you adding your commentary into the mix. Lastly,

(17:39):
James Rigby writes this to answer your question, how I've
been spending my time listening to Depeche Mode Over this week,
I've been listening to my playlist on my phone on
my music player app the best Depeche Mode for each decade,
starting with the eighties and the nineties, then the the oughts,
and then the twenty ten twenties. Because obviously we only

(18:02):
got one album so far in the twenty twenties, these
playlists are made up of my favorite songs from each
album in that decade or decades in the case of
the fourth playlist, awesome and thank you for sharing that, James.
Not everybody takes me up on my offer to have
you suggest how it is you're listening to Depeche Mode.

(18:22):
So I appreciate you going and doing that. So, as
I mentioned a relatively short episode, I'm going to record
a Star Wars episode, but it's going to be much
shorter than this. So thank you again for allowing me
to express things outside of depeche Mode. But I hope

(18:45):
I made it relative enough that you still enjoyed the
podcast this week. So I will be back next week,
hopefully it's under much better circumstances. But before I let
you go, I just want to remind you that you
love depeche Mode. But if you also read science fiction,
I hope you'll treat yourself a family member or a

(19:07):
friend with science fiction. I wrote a science fiction space
opera series set in the future where air and spaceflight
culture has replaced car culture. It was inspired in part
by depeche Mode, the world we live in in life,
in general life in the so called space age. I
decided to have depeche Mode play a large part in
the underlying themes of the story, which is easy love. Right.

(19:30):
There's a romance in the story. The main character himself
is a depeche Mode fan at a time. Twenty one
seventy two was the year in which the story takes place.
But I made it so that the music through the
eighties through the two thousands is nostalgic and popular among
the characters of the story, and they do feature references

(19:50):
to Depeche Mode both indirect and direct, along with other
bands of their time and modern day, all while telling
an exciting sif space opera saga. It's funny if you
go back in. I was doing a reread of the
first book, because yes, I'm one of those authors that
rereads his own books and they're interesting. It's the books

(20:11):
are interesting snapshots into the music that I was into
and what Depeche Mode songs I was listening to at
the time. It's pretty interesting, at least for me, it is,
and I wrote the book, so why wouldn't it be.
Book one is described as follows. It's twenty one seventy two.
Flight culture has replaced car culture, and two of Earth's
largest corporations now supplied the planet with the technology and

(20:34):
fuel to make air and spaceflight available to everyone. Taft
Guardia spends his weekends at an abandoned flying field, racing
through the skies with the three best friends and the
girl that he longs to be with, Katha. Morrow after
receiving a mysterious message from her deceased aerospace engineer father,
Kaitha and Taff to make a shocking discovery. With Earth

(20:57):
facing a great disaster, ruthless and power hungry enemy emerges. Unwittingly, Taff, Katha,
and their crew are thrust into the middle of humanity's
fight for survival and future among the stars. It's a
fast paced, fun, action packed epic science fiction adventure without

(21:18):
any sort of agenda. So again, if you like science
fiction and you like your science fiction to be epic,
filled with some romance, cool technology, a lot of action
as well, and they're easy reads too, this is not
hard science fiction, it's borderline fantasy, and Bark is perfect
for you. I wrote the series for adults, but I

(21:39):
also made it age appropriate for any children eleven and older.
In terms of the content, nothing will be offensive in there,
beyond the violence, which is on par with what you
would get from your typical Star Wars fare. So I
hope you haven't already that you'll pick up in Bark
book one today. It's available in hardcover, paper back, ebook, Kindle, unlimited,

(22:02):
and audiobook all at Amazon dot Com. Just search for
Embark and John j O N Justice again. That wraps
up the show this week. Thank you so much for
spending some time. I appreciate it, and I hope wherever
you are that you're happy, you're healthy, you're safe. Say

(22:26):
a prayer for our planet, crying out loud, right, say
a prayer for the world to be living in life
in general. All right, and I'll talk to you guys
next week. I have a great one. By Hello, This
is Mulls and Gold depeche Mode. Alright, depreche Mode. You

(22:48):
all listening to depeche Mode the podcast on my World.
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