Consider Suspending Israel as UN Member State, Experts Tell UN Palestinian Rights Committee

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
This meeting is called to order, Excellencis Distingish Speakers, Ladies
and gentlemen, on behalf of the Natural Nations Committee on
the Exercise of the Innerval Rights of the Palestinian People.

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It is my privilege to welcome you today to this
briefing on international legal responsibilities for preventing genocide, holding perpetratories
of war crimes accountable, and for ending the unlawful occupation
of Palestine. Today's event will consist of a short opening,

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followed by briefings by two UN Special Reporters on the
situation of human rights in the Palaesian territories occupied since
nineteen sixty seven and on health, followed by the Independent
International Commission of Inquiry on the occupied Palestinian Territory, including

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its Jerusalem and Israel. We will also hear from representatives
of the Palestinian Independent Commission for Human Rights and the
Angio Law for Palestine. Please allow me to mention before
we begin that, as reminded by the UN Department of

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Safety and Security, and according to the rules of the Secretariat,
no form of protest will be.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Allowed during this meeting.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I will now deliver remax in my capacity as chair
of the Committee for the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights
of the Palestinian People. Excellencies, Ladies and gentlemen, dear guests,
as we gather here today, it is over one year

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since the seventh of October attacked by Hamas and other
Palestinian armed groups against Israel and the subsequent Gaza War.
During that year, we have been bearing witness to one
of the most devastating conflicts in our time. This not

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only has brought immeasurable suffering to Palestinian civilians following the
seventh October attacks, so far the conflict has highlighted the
multilateral system's inability to bring an end to this heart
wrenching tragedy. Our committee, the UN Committee on the Exercise

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of the Innevers of the Palestian People, mandated by the
GAS to advocate for the innerbal rights of the Palestian people,
has organized today's event. As indicated, the U N Special
Apports on the Situation of Human Rights in the Palestian
Territories occupied since nineteen seven and on health and the

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Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestian Territory
are here to brief the committee. Do you n experts
have and continue to do heroic work in investigating and
documenting what has been happening on the ground throughout the
opt shifting through vast amounts of documents and testimonies to

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gather evidence, passing facts from allegation, proof from misinformation. Your
efforts are vital not only for telling the story of Gaza,
but more importantly for ensuring accountability. After more than a
year of devastating conflict, it is difficult to find proper

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words to describe the Israeli made catastrophe unfolding in Gaza
and the West Mac. Instead, let me share key excerpts
from recent reports and statesments by the UN experts, whose
strong language underscores the grave severity of the Gaza crisis.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
In the Joint.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Statement of All Special Reporters on elements October, they describe
Gaza let me quote, the strip is now a wasteland
of rebel and human remains. Another sentence, Israeli bombs have
spared no one another one. Constant bombing has turned the

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humanitarian zones into killing fields unquote. Similarly, the Commissioner of Inquiry,
in its report published on the terms of October, stated
that I Court Israel has perpetrated a concerted policy to
destroy Gaza health care system as part of.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
A broad sort on God.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Another sentence, Israeli securitive forces have deliberately killed, detained and
tortured medical personnel and targeted medical vehicles, while tightening the
siege on Gaza and restricting permits to leave the territory
for medical treatment and court. These UN experts reports and

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statesments are balanced, addressing the atrocities and crimes against humanity
by both Israeli securitive forces and Palestinian militants. The analysis
counter's frequent accusations by those not in favor of the
UN's work and efforts. In the opit who claimed that

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UN experts, including UN Special reporters, the COI, and other
UN officials are biased towards one side, a criticism recently
even directed at the UN Secretary General Antonio Koters. For example,
while the COI has reported on the elements of September
of this year, serious violations by Israeli security forces against

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Palesinian's Policestian detainees ours was widely reported in the media,
it also writes quote regarding the Israeli and foreign hostages
held in Gaza by Palestinian groups. The report found that
many were mistreated to inflict physical pain and severe mental suffering,

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including physical violence, abuse, sexual violence, force isolation, limited access
to ig and facilities.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Water and food, threat, and humiliation.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
The Committee firmly supports accountability for all individuals and parties
responsible for crimes against humanity and ensuring all victims are recognized.
Violations of international human rights law must be condemned, regardless
of who commits those ruches. Ladies and gentlemen. The Palestinian

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struggle and the current situation in Gaza highlight a stark
power imbalance between israel occupying power and the occupied Palestinian people.
We are witnessing, regardless Israeli military strikes by air, land
and sea against defenseless Palestinian population, men, women, children, and

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the elderly, all attacked in a disruption and indeniable assault
today rights and today's security. To date, over forty three
thousand Palestinians have been killed, more than one hundred thousand injured,

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and many remain buried under the rebel in Gaza, with
the entire population enduring extreme suffering. As we entered the
second year of this conflict, with no light, no end
in light in sight. Israel has also intensified attacks and
discriminatory policies in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem,

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bolstered by state supported settler violence, and the escalating conflict
into opity now risks igniting a broader regional war. Excellencies,
Ladies and gentlemen, dear guests, the sad proof is that

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the Israeli Palaesian is not an intractable question. To the contrary,
we all know the solution and for a long time
the conflict will only end with two states Israel and Palestine,
leaving side by side in peace and within secured borders.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
This is the way, this is the future.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
And after the current war, the parties have to be
brought back to the table to find a mechanism to
get there. But for now, the pressing tasks are these. First,
there has to be an immediate cease fire, the immediate
and unconditional release of all remaining Israeli captives in Gaza

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and Palestian detainees in Israel, and a massive scale up of.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Second GA resolution is Dash ten Slash twenty four, calling
on UN member states to comply with the Advisory Opinion
of the International of Justices on Israel's policies and practices
in the opity has to be fully implemented.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Third, Member States.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Of the United Nations must safeguard the international system of
rules based multilateralism. We need to do so for the
sake of the people in Gaza, in the occupied West
Bank and East Jerusalem, and in the whole region. Allowing

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a continuation of the Gaza War, a continuation of the
illegal Israeli occupation of Palesinian territory, a continuation of the
killing of innocent Palesian lives, a continuation of an apparent
impunity in the face of documented violations of fundamental norms

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and laws, will make the restoration of peace increasingly difficult
to achieve. Our Committee will continue to be engaged with
other Member states and regional organizations, with you and bodies

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and other partners to help bring an end to the
current war, an avert avert regional conflagration. I think, excellencies,

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ladies and gentlemen, I would like now to request the
Representative of the State of Palestine, Ambasada Faddelhadi, to deliver remarks.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
You have to fluidscellency, Thank you, mister Chair. We are
grateful to the Committee for its tireless efforts and solidarity
with the Palestinian people, and for gathering us today at
a time of paramount urgency for collective action.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
To uphold our legal, political.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Humanitarian and moral obligations, to prevent genocide, to ensure accountability
and justice, and to finally bring an end to Israel's
illegal occupation of Palestine. I wish to join you in
welcoming our esteem briefers un special Repertoeurs, Miss Francesca Albanese

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and Doctor Telelang Mofeking. Honorable Commissioner Chrisidotti, we look forward
to your presentations of your powerful reports, alongside numerous joint
statements that you have issued as Special Repertoeurs concerning all
of aspects of the grave human rights situation of the

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Palestinian people under Israel's illegal occupation. I also wish to
welcome Miss Diana Butu from the Palestinian Independent Commission for
Human Rights and Miss Anesia Patel from Law for Palestine,
and stress civil Society's crucial role in our joint pursuit
of justice. Mister Chair, we have said it continually, the

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Nakba against the Palestinian people never ended. No chapter darker
than that which our people in Gaza have suffered for
the past year. The absence of accountability has permitted Israel's
unbridled impunity, its politicians, military and settler militias, descending to

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unimaginable depths of cruelty and depravity, inflicting unfathomable terror, trauma, loss,
and devastation on the Palestinian people, a situation equated to
hell on Earth, a betrayal of our humanity, a stain
on the world's conscience. Tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians, babies, children, women, men, youth, elderly,

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have been killed. Nine hundred and two families exterminated in
their entirety. Thousands more civilians are unaccounted for, crushed to
death under rubble, bodies shredded or burned beyond recognition, or
buried in mass graves. Over one hundred thousand people injured

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and maimed, thousands abducted, imprisoned in Israeli torture camps, many
killed in captivity, two million people forcibly displaced, over and
over again, hunted down by Israel's occupation forces from one
corner of Gaza to the other, where over eighty percent

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of civilian Infratcas structure has been decimated and nowhere is safe.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Today.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
North of Gaza is the epicenter of Israel's genocidal onslaught.
Those not killed by Israel's weapons are being starved to
death and ravaged by disease as the occupying power continues
its siege of Gaza, obstructing aid and depriving our people
of food, water, medicine, and all essentials for human survival,

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targeting hospitals and aid workers, deliberately imposing conditions of life
intended to collectively punish, to torment, to force departure, to
destroy our people, forcing them to choose between ethnic cleansing, genocide,
or surrender and submission to its settler colonial domination and

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apartheid regime. And yet still no accountability, no protection for
the occupied, defenseless civilian power population targeted by this genocidal wrath. Instead,
there is rampant impunity, more atrocities, more colonization, more annexation,

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more persecution in Gaza and across the rest of occupied
Palestine in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Instead, war
criminals are perennially shielded from accountability by the US veto
in the Security Council by an inability or unwillingness to
implement resolutions even when adopted, by a failure to uphold

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legal responsibilities and impose consequences in the face of flagrant
violations and grave breaches of international law. It is the
height of perversity, even as Israel violates every rule of law,
every moral principle, every tenet of humanity. Instead of being

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held responsible, instead of independent international investigations, accountability and consequences,
Israel is actually the one taking punitive measures. The case
of UNRA is the most recent glaring example of this.
Israel attacks UNRA facilities, targets and destroys shelter for the displaced,

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killing and injuring thousands murders. Unra's staff, obstructs its humanitarian mission,
smears and libels the agency, and passes so called legislation
to outlaw to outlaw. Yet perversely, Israel claims it is
the one under attack by the UN, even as it

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is the one waging an open war on the UN,
not just on UNRA, but on the Secretary General, on
Special Rapperteurs and commissioners, on the Security Council, General Assembly,
Human Rights Council, the ICJ, the ICC, on this committee,
on every single country that dares to speak out on

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the entire UN system and the international community it represents.
It is a methodical, unprecedented, all out attack in violation
of the UN Charter, international law and UN resolutions, and
begging the question of how Israel remains a member of
this organization instead of international law being upheld. As High

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Commissioner for Human Rights Volko Turk has warned, the international
rule of law is being progressively dismantled. But what we
see in your work special reperteurs and commissioners and civil
society are powerful testimonies to the facts and clarion calls
for justice. We see that there are many who refuse

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to allow this dismantlement of international law, to allow the
perversion of the law and perversion of the truth. We
see those those who will act with courage and principle
to safeguard international law and insist on its respect, to
uphold human rights universally and demand justice.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
We have tools.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Afforded to us by international law to end this impunity,
and must use them as a matter of urgency. This
has been the State of Palestine's abiding call for accountability
for all the war crimes, crimes against humanity, and acts
of genocide committed against the Palestinian people, and we remain

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unwavering in our commitment to realize justice for them. With
the recent advisory opinion by the ICJ on the illegality
of the Israeli occupation and the General Assembly resolution that
followed clearly affirming the obligations of all states to bring
an end to this abhorrent situation, including by means of

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a halt to arms, transfers, ending all dealings with settlements,
and other measures of accountability. With the ICJ provisional measures
orders in the case initiated by South Africa under the
Genocide Convention, and with the mounting global awareness, protests and
demands for a cease fire, for an end to the genocide,

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for an end to Israel's occupation, and for a free Palestine,
we believe we are at a turning point. Although the
days have never been darker, the prospects for justice and
accountability have never been greater. The responsibilities of the international
community are no longer up for debate, they are explicit

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and urgent. We must stop this genocide. Hold perpetrators of
war crimes accountable and end this illegal, immoral and inhumane
occupation which stands in defiance of every legal and moral principle.
We owe it to the Palestinian people and to future
gen generations in our region and around the world, to

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preserve and uphold the rule of law, and to move
beyond words and pursue justice with conviction. I thank you, mister.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Chair Ambasada Fedav that had in Nassai. I thank you
for your statement. I thank you for the strong message
you have delivered the passion, and also for being an
inspiration to all of us. We renew our soulidarity to

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your people and to your authorities in these.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Very difficult times.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I will now give the flaw to each of our
panelists for short briefings on their respective topics and areas.
After these interventions, I will open the floor for questions,
starting with the committee members and observers, and then to
everyone else. In interest of time and to allow for

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rich discussion, we invite all those representitive of member states
and inter government organizations who prepared statements to send these
documents to the Division for Palesinian Rights of the United
Nations CRETLIET. They will then be posted on the committy website.
Please be reminded that simultaneous interpretation is provided in six

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languages Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish to accommodate
the all interventions of our panelists as well as our
diverse esteemed audience. There is no exception because of the
technical constraints. The expert speaker from the Palesinian Independent Commission
for Human Rights, Missus Diana Bhutu, will join us via

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video call and we will speak in English, but her
remarks would not be interpreted. However, the whole event will
still be webcast live on you and web TV. I
also want to inform that to reduce the usage of paper,

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documents related to this panel discussion and the Committee have
been put in a virtual folder and you can access
it by scanning the QR code near the two entrances.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Into your smartphones.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
All participants are also encouraged to disseminate information about the
panel discussion on the social media and use the hashtag
rights for Palestine. Let us now start with our first panelist,
Missus Francesca Albanize You and special rapporter on the situation

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of human rights in the Palestine territory occupied since nineteen
sixty seven. Miss Albanis, you have a very long resume,
but just say here that you are an affiliate scholar
at the Institute of the for the Study of International
Migration at Georgetown University, and you have published widely on

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the legal situation in Israel and Palestine and it is
and you also a longtime counterpart and a partner of
our committee.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Missus albani Is, you have the flow.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Thank you, mister Chaier.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
Good morning everyone, Excellencis, distinguished Delegates, Ambassador of de Lahadi
and colleagues from the Commission of Inquiry and.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
The Special Rapperturship.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
I would like to start by reading the remarks I
started with, yes, surely as my as I presented my
fifth report as a Special Repperteur to the Third Committee
of the General Assembly in a year in which I
was turned into a reluctant chronicler of genocide, I feel

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compelled to start by paying my respect to the victims
and survivors of all genocides past and present, including the
Native Americans like the Lenape people, who are the really
regional stewards of the land on which this institution stands. Certainly,
the ongoing struggle of Native Americans and indigenous peoples everywhere

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to again and maintain their rights on their ancestral land
like the Palestinians, would be less challenging if institutions like
this one, premise upon equality and freedom of all and
self determination for all, were actually committed to addressing and
unraveling the colonial past, beginning by confronting the prevailing colonial

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amnesia that affects many of them. And as Italian Holocaust
survivor Primo Levi reminds us, it is the emmeesia the
past and the risure of its victims that allows history
to repeat itself. And why did I start by reading
this again and again? It's because history is repeating itself.

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Yesterday I presented my second report on genocide. Why so,
why do I insist in calling it genocide because it's
so difficult to prove intent. Why don't you go with
war crimes and crimes against humanity? Because it's genocide Because

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if you go to a doctor and you have cancer
and you are diagnosed with FEVA, you have a problem,
a big problem. And it's the same with the people
who's being genocided. Because it's not about a collection of
war crimes and crimes against humanity that the Palestinians are experiencing.

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They have experienced through their entire life as a people,
war crimes and crimes against humanity, but nowadays the situation
is different, and it's very important that we understand what
is genocide and why this is to be recognized as
a genocide, because in the same way as the international

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community has failed to protect the victims of genocide in
the case of the Jewish people in Europe, and then
the Bosnians in former Yugoslavia and then the uh the
Tutsi in Rwanda, in the same way we are failing

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the Palestinians. And I want to express all my respect
and solidarity with the Palestinian people because it's it's a
torment to be here as a Palestinian and having to
tell all of us about the genocide that their people

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are experiencing.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Because the people is like a body.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
You chop one arm, you chop one limb, the entire
bodies offer and this is what a people is. It's
something organic and the same thing is the relation between
the people and the land.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
For indigenous people, the lend.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
Is not the place where they live, the lend is
who they are, and this is why we need to
understand the bigger design behind what's happening in Palestine today.
On the fourteenth of October, when together with other special rapporteurs,

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we started to denounce to raise the alarm that what
Israel had started to do might be genocide and there
was a serious risk of genocide. And then as of
November thirty of us have said a genocide is unfolding.
I also said on the fourteenth of October, under the
fog of war, Israel accelerates the first displacement of the Palestinians.

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And I do say that out of the scholarship that
I've produced, because the way I know the question of
Palestine is through the first displacement of its people.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Since even before the state of.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Israel was was created, Palestinians have been kicked out of
their land amid the destruction of their villages and everything
they had from nineteen forty seven, forty nine and in
nineteen sixty seven, and it continues, and what's happening today
it's much more severe because of the technology, because of

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the weaponry, but also because of the impunity that has
been granted to the state of Israel over seventy six years,
the eubris that has led Israel to attack not just
the Palestinian people or the Lebanese also and to the Lebanizos.
So goes my solidarity in this moment. But United Nations

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this year has also marked an attack against the United
Nations physically symbolically in terms of functions. Israel has damaged
or in any way bombed and targeted and heat seventy
percent of ANDROI infrastructure in Gaza. It has launched a
campaign as mere campaign against against ANDRA since which intensified

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a pattern that was already established. And it has skilled
two hundred and thirty UN staff members, colleagues of many.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Of those who work in this institution.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
And it has targeted the humanitarian capacity of Andra, and
it has even targeted UN peacekeepers, and it has targeted
the UN Secretary General and independent and experts, and it's
very lustrous assembly.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
No one has been spared, not just.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
Among the Palestinians and the Libadies, even in the United Nations.
And it's because of debt on top of the genocide
and on top of the fifty seven years of a
lawful occupation that I say it's time to consider suspending
the credential of Israel as a member state. I understand
the sensitivity because none of you really has really clean

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ends when it comes to human rights. That's okay, but
no one else has maintained an unlawful occupation, violating decades
of Uan Security Council, General Assembly, Human Rights Counsel, International
Court of Justice decision and resolutions. As Israel has done
enough enough. And the last point genocide. While this is genocide,

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genocide is a very insidious crime. It's a process, it's
not an act, and there is a signific can jurisprudence,
but still incipient jurisprudence, thankfully. And the critical element to
determine genocide is the intent behind the acts of killing,

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an infliction harm and creating conditions of life leading to
the destruction of a group. As such, there is the
intent and the discussion I hear, including from scholars, well,
it's difficult to prove the intent.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
The intent is not a motive. It's a different thing.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
It's intent is the determination to destroy through criminal acts.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Motives can vary.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
One can commit genocide because of one can develop the will,
the determination to commit genocide to stay in power, or
to liberate the hostages, or to commit other crimes. But
the meant there is the determination to destroy, then the
intent of genocide is formed. Then you don't even need

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to have genocide unfolding to intervene. We have already failed
the Palestinians. Genocide has already been committed. But we need
to first of all intervene, stop and punish the perpetrators,
and then to stop it because it's expanding to dopankan
is Jerusalem, No one, no Palestinians is safe under Israeli

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rule and the other element. And with this I will
conclude what is critical is the responsibility of the state.
We cannot apply the same threshold for alleged perpetrators, so
criminal responsibility to a state. Otherwise, if we have to guardant,

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look at the paradox, preventing genocide would be an impossible mission.
If we have to wait until the guarantees that fair
trial afford to alleged perpetrators are satisfied.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
We will never prevent genocide.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
But here the responsibility of a state is evident, especially
especially in a self proclaimed the rule of law system
which has checks and balances. Its not just the executive,
it's the Parliament and the judiciary. What have these bodies
done in Israel to prevent genocide?

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Nothing? Not only this is not the result of action
of some members of the government. This is a.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
Collective responsibility of the State of Israel. And because of
that I say this is the first settler colonial genocide
to be litigated in human history. The cry for justice
behind this case will resonate across the globe and will
make a difference also for other indigenous people that have
never seen a day of justice.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Thank you very much, Special Upporter, I thank you for
your intervention and for your very important and frank briefing.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
On the situation in the orpit.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I will now give the flow to our second briefer,
Missus lalag Mophoking, you and special Upporter on the Right
to Health. A medical doctor with expertise in advocating for
universal health access, HIV care, you friendly services and family planning.

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Missus Morphoking has been Commissioner are the Commission for Gender
Equality in South Africa, among other duties. Missus moffakin to
flows yours.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Chair.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
I welcome this opportunity to speak to you here today
in my capacity as the UN Special opportunity the right
to health. We have watched the horror of agen Aside
unfold for over a now, representing a display of reculcitrant,
repungent attitude of an occupying powers regime and its global allies.

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This has been an ongoing enactment of decades long genocidal plans,
systemic and sustained imperialist violence experienced by Palestinians every single
day since the Nagba. One year later, the promise by
Israeli leaders to destroy Garsa has been fulfilled. The strip

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now a wasteland of rubble and human remains, where survivors,
many of them women, children, people who are disabled, the elderly,
struggle to hold onto life amid deprivation and disease. An
unknown number of people remain under ruble bodies decomposing, including

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in the ruins of what used to be clinics and hospitals.
The practice of medicine is under a take by Israel.
Just days into this war, I warned that the Gaza's
medical infrastructure was on the path of being irreparably damaged.
That early warning system was ignored. Health care providers were

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working in a dire situation themselves or rady under bombardment
in the enclave. At the moment, according to the doublehe Or,
only seventeen out of thirty six hospital are partially functioning.
There have been five hundred and sixteen attacks on health facilities,
with seven hundred and sixty five people killed in those attacks.

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We have many people still requiring urgent medical evacuations for
up take in upgrade and care. All hospitals have insufficient
and unreliable power. They struggle to save lives amid critical
shortages of not just health care workers, but also trickling
supplies of medical equipment and items that are necessary. Not

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only is Israel killing and causing irreparable harm against Palestinian
people with bombardments, but Israel and their allies are also
knowingly and intentionally imposing famine and dehydration. I remain concerned
at the ongoing risks of water and air borne diseases,
the many complex injuries that are resulting from the kinds

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of military arsenal that is used, as well as new
and developing disabilities and complications created from a lack of
timeiess intervention for both medical and surgical care. Pregnant women
are not receiving adequate nutrition and health care. Children, especially

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under five, continue to be at high risk of severe malnutrition,
placing a whole generation in danger of suffering from stunting,
which causes irreparable physical and cognitive impairment. There are no
guarantees regarding consistency of medical supplies, with insufficient water, inadequate sanitation, food, medicines,

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health care facilities, including ambulances have been critically affected. The
protracted violence makes much of the population in need of
psychological and mental support and psychological fast aid impossible to provide.
The ongoing situation is untenable. My Mandate has received information

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regarding arrests detention of health care workers demonstrating again in
a pattern including arrests of medical personnel while their own duty,
medical personnel being forced to evacuate hospitals and some immediately arrested.
Some are dying under these circumstances and reportedly being beaten

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in prison, with their bodies showing signs of torture. Most recently,
a colleague of Mind, doctor Ziad El Dadu, was a
third doctor confirmed to have died while being detained by Israel.
He was an internal medicine physician and Alshaifa Hospital. He

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was detained along with other healthcare workers while on duty
on eighteenth March twenty twenty four. This was during a
raid by Israeli forces and he was in detention and
he reportedly died on the twenty first of March twenty
twenty four. The number of widespread violations of the special

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protection afforded to civilians and violations related to lack of
protection of medical personnel under international human rights law and
international human rights law have been immeasurable. The destruction of
health systems created by this genocide is incompatible with the
realization of the right of everyone to the highest attainable

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standard of physical and mental health. Israel and its allies
have ignored the International Court of Justice, the UN experts
and their continue to commit an immeasurable number of viour
relations against civilians, children, medical personnel. Israel is obligated to protect,

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promote and respect human rights of all individuals. I have
communicated to the Member State Israel in an urgent appeal.
Some of my concerns the long term trauma of people
in Gaza will carry.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
With them.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Because of this.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
During intergenerational physical and mental health impacts of structural discrimination,
of racism and violence, we are yet to fully quantify
or even develop a matrix to measure the true impact
of this genocide, its compounding nature of what was never

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a situation that was conducive to the right to health
even before October seventh. All immediate and future interventions aimed
at lasting peace must center the restoration of dignity of
people of Palestine, an immediate deep analysis and a recovery,
a rebuilding, and a resourcing of the health system to

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be able to provide accessible, acceptable quality care, including expediting
of medical evacuations. Reparative justice and as an approach, will
require a very different kind of solidarity.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
From this room and from this headquarters.

Speaker 7 (43:03):
And to all of the oppressed people everywhere in the
world who are exploited, humiliated, brutalized and colonized. I fulfill
my mandate viscerally aware and understand the compounding, crushing weight
of this violence and the issues that you face every day,
and I share in the rage and the fury of

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so many people around the world. I am ashamed and
I am deeply sorry that the multilateral world has failed you,
and I hope that one day we will share different
collective connection as a humanity that isn't based on experiences
of colonial imperial is trauma or what it has taken

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from us and our people and our collective futures. And
I reiterate my call as follows. A genocide is incompatible
with the realization of the right of everyone to the high,
highest attainable standards of physical and mental health.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
We need an immediate ceasefire.

Speaker 7 (44:07):
We need an end to this illegal occupation. We need
an end and accountability to this genocide. And then, ultimately, colleagues,
peace follows liberation and that you cannot extinguish the human
desire for freedom.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I think you Chair, thank you, Special Morpho King for
sharing with us this extremely concerning update on the health
situation faced by the Palatinians today. Our ex speaker is

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mister Chris Siderty, a Commissioner in the Independent International Commission
of Inquiry on the Occupied Politician Territory including Judysalem and Israel.
Mississidity is the founder of the Special Advisory Council for
may and Martin was one of the members of the
UN Independent International Finding Mission on Mamma. He has also

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provided consultancy services on human rights law to oh HR,
UNDP and UNSEF, among others. Commission ascidity, you have the flow.

Speaker 8 (45:30):
Thank you, Ambassador, and thank you and the members of
your committee for enabling this meeting to take place today.

Speaker 9 (45:40):
Yesterday, when we.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
Appeared before the Third Committee, States had sixty seconds to respond.

Speaker 9 (45:46):
To our report. We would have liked to have heard
more from.

Speaker 8 (45:51):
You, and I think this gathering today gives us the
opportunity of hearing more from you.

Speaker 9 (46:02):
Fata. When you were speaking, I couldn't help.

Speaker 8 (46:05):
But try to imagine how I would have felt if
I had been talking about my country and describing the
things that you described.

Speaker 9 (46:17):
I don't know how you do it.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
I am journalists ask simple questions, and I often get
a question from journalists, how would you describe what is happening?
And I'm left speechless And then I use one word,

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and only one word, overwhelming, and I mean overwhelming in
two senses. What is happening to the Palestinian people of
Gaza and to an increasing but lesser extent on the
West Bank is enormous, unprecedented. It is overwhelming them, and

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it's overwhelming as well.

Speaker 9 (47:12):
For the rest of us.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
I mean for us as investigators, but for all of
you as diplomats. What I've been impressed with this week.
In the days that we've been here, in the meetings
that we have had, has been the number of times
that all of you cold hearted, hard shelled diplomats have

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said to us how overwhelmed and frustrated and sad you are.
I have been moved by the fact that so many
of you are personally affected about what is happening.

Speaker 9 (47:51):
And I'll come back to that. I don't want to
go through what we found. All of our reports are there.

Speaker 8 (47:59):
If you want to read them, you can read them.
I want to look at the three issues, Ambassador, that
you've listed as the themes for this gathering, and not
say what we have found, but what we are doing
and why to use this as an opportunity to tell
you about the approach that our Commission of Inquiry is taking.

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One of our terms of reference provides that we look
at the underlying root causes of the situation in Palestine
and Israel, and for us.

Speaker 9 (48:34):
That was very much the starting point.

Speaker 8 (48:38):
We presented our report to the General Assembly, our first
report there's now been three, in October twenty twenty two,
and in that report.

Speaker 9 (48:48):
We described how for us, the underlying.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
Root causes, or at least two of them were occupation
and discrimination. We gave our analysis of occupation and formed
the view that it was unlawful.

Speaker 9 (49:11):
That was our conclusion. But we also.

Speaker 8 (49:14):
Appreciated that this was a matter of such seriousness that
a definitive, authoritative statement of the legality or otherwise of
the occupation was required, and so we recommended to you
that there be a reference from the General Assembly to
the International Court of Justice. And I'll be frank, to

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my shock, the General Assembly acted on it almost immediately.
That reference was made a few weeks after we made
the recommendation. The International Court of Justice accepted the analysis
that we had undertaken. It did its own analysis, of course,

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but its reasoning was the same as ours, and as
you know in July, in its opinion, it indicated that
the occupation was unlawful. This is certainly one of the
root causes, and one of the most significant root causes.

Speaker 9 (50:22):
The Court also.

Speaker 8 (50:23):
Found that the right of the Palestinian people to self
determination had been historically and continuingly violated as well, and
that in fact, the occupation and the violation of the
right to self determination were intrinsically linked.

Speaker 9 (50:46):
The Court ordered that the occupation be.

Speaker 8 (50:48):
Ended as rapidly as possible, and we were very pleased
when the General Assembly took the first steps on that
in the resolution in September, not the last steps, but
the first steps, and it was a very rapid response
again from the General Assembly to the Court's opinion.

Speaker 9 (51:10):
So for us, a.

Speaker 8 (51:12):
Focus on ending the unlawful occupation of Palestine has been
a predominant focus in the work that we have done
to date.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
Link to that has been the question of accountability.

Speaker 8 (51:26):
Just as we have this explicit term of reference to
deal with underlying root causes, so too we are instructed
to deal with the.

Speaker 9 (51:36):
Issue of accountability.

Speaker 8 (51:40):
Of course, we have taken that responsibility very seriously. We
cooperate with the courts whenever requested and to the greatest
extent possible under the general Arrangement between the United Nations
and the International Criminal Court. We have a arrangement a

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protocol with the Officer of the Prosecutor in relation to
the investigation into the situation of Palestine. We provide information
to the Prosecutor on a monthly basis and to date
have provided over ten thousand pieces of information to assist
the Prosecutor's investigations.

Speaker 9 (52:22):
That's part of our responsibility.

Speaker 8 (52:24):
We collect the information, we verify it, we form conclusions
as to the significance of the information in relation to
international crimes, and we provide it to the prosecutor. We
can also provide information to parties to international litigation cases.

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We were requested to provide assistance to the Government of
South Africa in its case under the Genocide Convention before
the International Court of Justice, and in response to that request,
we also provide information to the Government of South Africa
relevant to that case. To date, over six thousand pieces

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of information, and we will continue to cooperate with judicial
processes for accountability in accordance with the responsibility given us
by the Human Rights Council. We're very conscious of the
importance of that cooperation for the prosecutor of the International

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Criminal Court. It supplements his own investigative efforts. For the
International Court of Justice, it's perhaps even more important because
that court does not have its own investigative arm in
the way that the International Criminal Court does. It relies
on parties or others, including the United Nations, to provide

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the evidence on which the Court conveys its decisions. So
in providing evidence to the Government of South Africa, in
relation to its case. We are assisting the Court to
determine the matter before it. We were particularly pleased that

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in the advisory opinion on the occupation, the International Court
of Justice relied heavily on our own investigations and the
conclusions in our reports. The Court quoted us extensively and repeatedly.

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That made us feel even more responsible. We realized the
extent to which what we were doing with our investigative
work was directly related to accountability. It wasn't just a
matter of informing you Member states or getting a story
in the media. It was enabling the Court to make

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judicial decisions, authoritative decisions on some of the most important
issues concerning this situation. We were always very conscious of
our accountability function, but certainly became even more so after
we saw the extent to which the International Court of
Justice is relying on us. So we'll continue that and

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our intensive investigative work will continue to be one of
the focuses, one of the primary focuses of our activities.
Largely as a result of that we have not yet
dealt directly with the question of genocide.

Speaker 9 (55:46):
We are, i must note, immediately.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
Enormously grateful to Francesca for the extensive work.

Speaker 9 (55:54):
That she has done on this subject.

Speaker 8 (55:58):
I don't think there has been more important work on
the question of genocide in Palestine done by any other
part of the United Nations system than the work that
Trancesca has done, and I certainly, as a commissioner on
the COI want to thank her and acknowledge her enormous contribution.

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We are continuing to build brick by brick our understanding
of the issue of genocide, and as we conduct our investigations,
we are required to look generally at what we find
by way of fact means in terms of law. So

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to take an example from our most recent report, when
we looked at the question of the destruction the concerted
attempt to destroy the healthcare system in Gaza and looked
at the attacks on reproductive of health care and on children,
particularly neonatal wards, we came to the conclusion that these

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attacks caused immediate physical and mental harm and suffering to
women and girls and will have irreversible long term effects
on the mental health and physical and reproductive fertility prospects
of the Palestinian people as a group. Now we're aware

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of the fact that that is one of the five
categories of act under the Genocide Convention. We're aware of
the fact that another category relates to the destruction of
the conditions of sustainable life, and our work on healthcare,
on housing, and coming up next year on education will

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be very much looking at the capacity of Palestinian people
to sustain life under this circumstance that they have had
to endure. So brick by brick, we are looking at
this situation and we will put all the pieces together
and present our views. But in the meantime, we are

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very grateful for the work that Francesca has done. There
are two particular issues I want to emphasize, however, in
relation Ambassador to your theme of preventing genocide, there are
aspects of the Genocide Convention that give rise to immediate

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obligations and criminal liability whether or not genocide has occurred
or is occurring. It is not necessary to wait for
the International Court of Justice to decide the basic question
of whether this constitutes genocide before these provisions come into effect.

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The first is the obligation on all state parties to
the Convention to prevent genocide, whether it is occurring or not.

Speaker 9 (59:11):
There is an obligation to prevent.

Speaker 8 (59:15):
And the work that we have done already, and even more,
the work that Francesca has done in her reports, clearly
activates the obligation to take action to prevent genocide. That
obligation is not postponable. The second provision of immediate effect

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is the prohibition on incitement to genocide and the fact
that incitement is in itself a criminal offense. The ascitement
need not lead to genocide, and so you can have
this criminal offense whether or not genocide is actually committed

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or occurs. Now we have listed in our reports, we
have quoted statements made by senior political and military leaders
in the State of Israel that clearly constitute incitement to genocide. Now,
whether or not the Israeli military forces the Israeli government

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is acting on that incitement is a separate, distinguishable and
irrelevant question to the criminal offense of incitement to genocide.
And there is no reason whatsoever why the international Criminal
Court and national courts exercising universal jurisdiction should not be

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dealing now with the criminal offense of incitement to genocide,
and of course that also contributes to the issue of prevention.
I look back at the work that we've done over
the last three years, and I can point to achievements

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which make me feel good. The fact that the International
Court of Justice has essentially relied on our investigative work,
the fact that you, the members of the General Assembly,
made the reference when we recommended the reference, and so forth.

Speaker 9 (01:01:30):
But this is not a matter on which we pat
ourselves on the back.

Speaker 8 (01:01:37):
We have to say at the same time, we have
not stopped one child being killed, we have not stopped
one woman being killed.

Speaker 9 (01:01:52):
We have not stopped the war.

Speaker 8 (01:01:56):
And you need to say the same things about the
world at the General Assembly and the Security Council. You know,
I've been told rightly that members of the Security councilor please,
they've passed four resolutions since the seventh of October that
they have not stopped a single person being killed. So

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I don't want you to clap me when you finished.
It was Francesca Vader Tellon deserve to be clapped, but
you clap me when the killing stops, and not before.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Please, thank you very much, Commission Acidity for your insightful
and enlightening briefing. We appreciate your very important investecative role
you are playing, and the corporation you are bringing to

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the judicial bodies, and thank you so for responding very
clearly to the questions raised at the start of this meeting.
I'm going now to give the floor to our next briefer,
Missus Diana Butu, who will be giving her presentation through
video conference. Missus Butu is a member of the Board

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of Commissioners of the Independent Commission for Human Rights of
Palestine and she's a Palestinian lawyer from Ramallah. She previously
worked as a legal advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organization
and was a member of the team that worked on
raising the legality of the separation Wall before the International

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Court of Justice. Missus but I have the pleasure to
give you the flaw.

Speaker 10 (01:03:47):
Thank you, Thank you very much. Good morning everyone.

Speaker 11 (01:03:51):
I first want to begin by thanking you for this
opportunity to speak, and I in particularly want to thank
Franchster you and Special report Or on the Situation of
Human Rights and Occupied Palestinian Territory occupied since nineteen sixty seven, who,
despite almost daily attacks by those who are carrying out,

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supporting and cheerleading this genocide, continues to stand strong and
continues to present an objective legal analysis of the systemic
destruction of Palestine and the ongoing genocide against Palestinians.

Speaker 10 (01:04:27):
History is going to look well upon your Francesca. It
will not for your accusers. Today we are.

Speaker 11 (01:04:34):
Witnessing the three hundred and ninetieth I can't believe that
the three hundred and ninetieth day of Israel's genocide of
Palestinians in Gaza.

Speaker 10 (01:04:44):
This is a genocide that has been live streamed before
our very eyes.

Speaker 11 (01:04:49):
We for three hundred and ninety days have watched mangled
Palestinian bodies being removed from rubble. We've seen building after
building being flattened by Israeli bombs.

Speaker 10 (01:05:02):
We've seen Israel attack hospitals, attack schools, attack.

Speaker 11 (01:05:06):
Universities, attack libraries, attack archives, attack ambulances, killing over forty
three thousand Palestinians, including doctors, nurses, paramedics, writers, professors, educators, journalists,
and aid workers, including two hundred and thirty seven un staff,

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who nobody seems to care about. These days, no place
is safe, no one is safe. Gaza is now a
killing field. Over the past three hundred and ninety days,
we've seen that there are more than thirteen thousand children
who've been killed by Israeli bombs the largest Palestinian city,

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that of Gaza City has been nearly reduced to rubble,
and it's estimated that it'll take more than eighteen years
just to remove.

Speaker 10 (01:05:54):
That rubble from Gaza. And in the midst of this,
one can only imagine the unknown.

Speaker 11 (01:05:59):
Damage to the environment and to the Palestinian food supply
after sustaining such a long bombing campaign. In the North,
Israel's carrying out an extensive ethnic cleansing campaign promoted by
Israel's generals. The options for Palestinians there are to starve,
be killed roughly. And all of this is happening before

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our eyes, and it bears repeating time and time again
that nothing, absolutely nothing justifies genocide. And while Israel and
its supporters may try to discount claims of genocide, in
fact that's what all genocidal regens do.

Speaker 10 (01:06:39):
The reality is seen and known.

Speaker 11 (01:06:43):
It's just being ignored, and as Palestinians, we refuse to
be erased. You know, for those who don't know or
have never been, Gaza is about the size of Detroit,
But unlike Detroit's six hundred and fifty thousand residents, that
has two point one million Palestinians living in it. It's

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among the most densely populated places in the world. And
over the past three hundred and ninety days, we've seen
that almost ten percent of Passes population has either been killed,
has been.

Speaker 10 (01:07:14):
Injured, or as missing.

Speaker 11 (01:07:17):
In the US context of three hundred and thirty million,
that's the equivalent of thirty three million people.

Speaker 10 (01:07:24):
And over the course of the past.

Speaker 11 (01:07:25):
Three hundred and ninety days, Israel has issued evacuation orders
over and over again to Palestinians, forcing them to flee
from one area to another. It's been estimated that more
than eighty percent of the Strip has been subjected to
some type of misnomer evacuation order because they're not actually evacuating,
they're just telling people to flee. They're not setting up shelter,

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they're not setting up hospitals, they're not setting up schools.

Speaker 10 (01:07:49):
They're just telling people to flee. Imagine if you can't.

Speaker 11 (01:07:53):
And many Palestinians have fled more than once. They've been
fleeing time and again. With Israel treating Palestinians as though
they're human being involves without any place for safety or
without any security. Now it's important to keep in mind
that there is a context to this genocide, that of
military occupation, and it's the occupier's duty as well as

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that of third states to protect Palestinians. It's important to
keep in mind that the situation that Palestinians were facing,
particularly those in Gaza, was that of an illegal siege
of blockade that was slowly killing Gaza.

Speaker 10 (01:08:29):
As the International.

Speaker 11 (01:08:30):
Court of Justice noted in its most recent Advisory opinion
on Palestine, it said, quote, the Court considers that the
violations by Israel the prohibition of the acquisition of territory
by force and of the Palestinian people's right to self
determination have a direct impact on the legality of the
continued presence of Israel as an occupying power in the

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occupied Palestinian territory. The sustained abuse by Israel of its
position as an occupying power through annexation and an assertion
of permanent control over the occupied Palatian territory, and continued
frustration of the right of the Palastinian people to self
determination violates fundamental principles of international law and renders Israel's

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presence in the occupied Paladian territory unlawful.

Speaker 10 (01:09:16):
The Court, of course, then adds.

Speaker 11 (01:09:17):
That this relates not only to the West Bank, but
to the entirety of the territory that Israel has occupied
in nineteen sixty seven, and it calls upon member states
to do something to actually end this situation.

Speaker 10 (01:09:32):
And it concludes by.

Speaker 11 (01:09:34):
Saying that the entirety of occupied Palacia territory it should
be able to exercise Palcite people should be able to
exercise the right to self determination and its integrity must
be respected. Now Here, it's important to note that here
the Court was dealing with Israel's occupation, but what if genocide?

Speaker 10 (01:09:54):
As we all know, the international community as a moral
and legal imperative to act.

Speaker 11 (01:10:00):
This is the bedrock of the international human rights system.

Speaker 10 (01:10:03):
As we know it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
It's enshrined in the Genocide Convention and its binding all states.
And for me, as a Palestinian, as a Palestinian lawyer,
I thought that never again actually meant never again. And
the reason I thought this is because the rules of
international law spell this out. But instead we're seeing that
never again really means never again for some only. The

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response by the international community has neither been adequate nor
has it been uniform. And while we are aware and
thankful for the individual country efforts to address this genocide
and to hold Israel to account.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
Where now in the world will receive the.

Speaker 11 (01:10:47):
Access of genocide that of Israel, The United States and
some European states, either pushing for a continuation of the genocide,
supporting it, or funding it. The failures speak in one voice,
one voice that says loudly that occupation, land, theft, colonization,
ethnic cleansing, and genocide is unacceptable is what has led

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us to this place where we are today. We're three
hundred and ninety days into a genocide. The world is
still not acting in one voice.

Speaker 10 (01:11:19):
This comes despite the.

Speaker 11 (01:11:21):
International Court of Justice order there's a plausible reason for genocide,
and we continue to see that some governments continue to
support Israel with weapons while others are.

Speaker 10 (01:11:33):
Disrupting aid to the trapped Guisen population.

Speaker 11 (01:11:37):
These actions amount to an abrogation of their duty to
prevent genocide, both under international law and within their own
national jurisdictions. This complicity has come in many forms, through
the provision of weapons, through financial support, and through diplomatic
cover that has shielded perpetrators from accountability, and all of

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this must stop. Far from preventing further deaths in Vaza.
Israel's bombardment since the ICJ order in January of twenty
twenty four have killed a further eighteen thousand Palestinians. Amnesty
International has said that Israel's failed to even take the
bare minimum steps to comply with the J ruling, and

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others have made the same point. The strength of any
legal system can be measured by how well it protects
its weakest elements, not by how it shields its perpetrators.

Speaker 10 (01:12:33):
And here we see that.

Speaker 11 (01:12:34):
Israel has been able to get away with perpetrating genocide
against a stateless, defenseless refugee population. We also see that
Israel is intensifying its attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank,
with over seven hundred Palestinians killed in the West Bank
by Israeli soldiers and settlers in the past year.

Speaker 10 (01:12:53):
Israel continues to defy international law. It continues to defy
the UN.

Speaker 11 (01:12:58):
It comes as no surprise given the former Israeli ambassador
said that quote the UN building should be closed and
should be wiped off the face of the earth. As
I conclude my remarks, I want to highlight one final
court point, particularly as somebody who lives here, who lives
in the West Bank, and who's witnessing this genocide take

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place less than one hundred and fifty kilometers from my home.
For over a year, we've watched Israeli soldiers record and
upload evidence of their crimes to TikTok and to other
social media.

Speaker 10 (01:13:32):
We've seen them blow up.

Speaker 11 (01:13:33):
Universities and schools while giggling and lighting cigarettes. We've seen
them dedicate the blowing up of schools to their children.
We've seen that save the date wedding invitations written on
destroyed homes of Palestinians. We've seen Israeli tank drivers filming
themselves as they crush Palestinians. We've heard of tank drivers
talk about the endless homes that they flatten.

Speaker 10 (01:13:55):
We've seen the endless videos.

Speaker 11 (01:13:56):
Of Israeli's a Raeli soldiers stripping, blindfolding, beating, and torturing Palestinians.
We've also seen videos of Israelis use Palestinians as human shields,
and other videos of Israelis rioting, literally rioting for the
right to rape Palestinians. The thousands of Palestinians who are
held hostage in Israeli jails, we actually don't know how

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many there are at this point. Now these soldiers appear
without masks, with their name known, because in part it
is now cool to show how tough you are with Palestinians.

Speaker 10 (01:14:29):
No one has been prosecuted for these crimes.

Speaker 11 (01:14:32):
These soldiers are effectively challenging the international community and saying
to you, I will do whatever I want, I will
forever be immune.

Speaker 10 (01:14:41):
And what I want to say to you is this,
Are they right?

Speaker 11 (01:14:45):
Because imagine what it is like to live in a
society where this is considered to be okay.

Speaker 10 (01:14:52):
Just imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Thank you, thank you very much, missus.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Buttu, we all knew that the violations of the occupying
power in the OPIT were real, were shocking, but your
briefing based on undeniable facts taken from the ground, adds
depth and credibility to the reality of this very grave

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criminal violations. Thank you, missus but for your briefing, and
were thankful to the members of your organization and keep
up the good work.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Now let me turn to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Our last, but not least briefer, who is missus Anisha Pattle,
Governing Council Member and Head of Content and Discourse Department
at the NGO Law for Palestine. Missus Pattle has worked
with governmental and inter governmental organizations related to the UNISCO

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World Heritage System as well as the intersection of heritage
and peace with the focus on community based processes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Missus Buttel, thank you, mister.

Speaker 12 (01:16:14):
Chair and Ambassador abd Hadi, the Special Rapperteurs and the
Commissioner and Missus Bhutu for your very, very articulate interventions.
For almost thirteen months now, we have witnessed the brutality
of Israel's settler colonial genocidal assault against the Palestinian people
in Gaza. But this is only the most violent manifestation

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of the ongoing seventy six year long neck pep and
the upper tight that has been inflicted upon the entirety
of the Palestinian people across the geography and in the diaspora,
who are not allowed to return. For those of us
who have followed this genocidal onslaught on our screens for
the past thirteen months, we're all too familiar with the

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hunting pleas from Palatinian journalists who are being brutally targeted
as we speak for broadcasting their own destruction in real time.
The first eleven pages of the six forty nine page
list of identified matters released by the Health Ministry in
September were names of Palestinian children who hadn't yet reached

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the age of one. But you all already know this
and more because in line with the UNSC Resolution two
three three four, since January twenty seventeen, the Council and
Members have received monthly updates on the situation in Palestine.
Member states have also been given ample documented evidence through

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the special procedures the Commissioners the ICJ, who have all
been establishing fact patterns and are analyzing them legally. The
Palestinians have been documenting this for over seventy six years now,
so lack of knowledge is really not the concern here.
So I will not act actually talk about in this intervention,

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which is an urgent call to action to stop the
genocide and end the settler colonial apartheid treasurement occupation upon
an appeal to your morality by detailing the loss of
Palestinian lives or Palestinians in arbitrary detention of the extensively
documented mass torture or force displacement or continued stavation and famine.

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If that was a factor in consideration, we would not
have that to witness Palestinian children being blown to smitherins
by two thousand pound bombs, we wouldn't still be here
calling for a ceasefire thirteen months later. Instead, what I
want to do is outline the legal consequences and responsibilities
for third states for failing to prevent and punish the

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crime of genocide that Israel as committing. The illegality of
Israel's continued presence in the opt tantamount of aggression, its
breach of Article three you have said, amounting to racial
segregation and apartheid, its violation of peremptory norms, including the
prohibition of acquisition of territory by force, and the Palestinian
people's right to self determination, all of which are legal

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findings of the International Court of Justice, which is the
UN Court.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Your court findings.

Speaker 12 (01:19:17):
That the Palestinian people again have been articulating for decades now.
The ICJ's historic advisory opinion of nineteen July rendered the
occupation of the Palestinian territory unlawful. The Assembly resolution that
followed in September demanded an end to this occupation within
a year and called on states to comply with their

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obligations under international law.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
The Court affirmed.

Speaker 12 (01:19:45):
That the states have a right have an obligation excuse
me not to recognize as legal this situation, including the
violation of Article three of third and not to render
aid or assistance in many the situation.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
And even though the ICGA.

Speaker 12 (01:20:03):
Advisory Opinion is restricted to the nineteen sixty seven borders
because of the request from the General Assembly, understanding the
systematic nature of apartheid and racial segregation means recognizing that
it applies to the entirety of the Palestinian people as
a whole, including the refugees that have been denied the
right of return. The Commission of Enquiries position paper on

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the ICGA Advisory Opinion, which has extensively detailed the obligations
of states to act individually and collectively, including by building political,
economic and cultural pressure on the Israeli government to end
this unlawful occupation. It also states that member states can
be found complicit in the internationally wrongful acts because of

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aiding and abetting this process. So at this point, after
all of these preliminary measures orders from the ICJ and
the Advisory opinion, the most basic ask thirteen months in
not least because of the ongoing genocide is a complete
embargo on the boycotting, selling, and transfer of ams, munitions

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and related equipment, as outlined in the UNJA resolution. It
is not only an obligation that arises from the Advisory Opinion,
but also from the duties of states to prevent and
punish the crime of genocide, as outlined in the Convention
and the preliminary measures orders in the South Africa versus
a child case.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
In Nicaragua versus Germany.

Speaker 12 (01:21:36):
The ICJ has also reminded member states that both the
Genocide Convention along with all the Geneva Conventions, reiterate this
obligation of not to transfer arms to parties of an
armed conflict, because otherwise states could be found complicit in
this conflict in this genocide. This restriction on arms also

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extends to military training, research, development, cooperation with Israel that
supports the unlawful occupation, and I would add racial segregation
and apartheid across the territory. The ICJ, along with states
parties that made interventions in the case, also emphasized on
the prolonged nature of the occupation, longest in the post

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World War two history. This prolonged nature of the occupation,
along with the entrench settler colonial apartheid regime, the infrastructure
built around it, the annexation of vast territories, including through
illegal settlements and colonies, and legislative changes that have taken
place around this mean that today the possibility of making

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a distinction between Israel and its operations in the OPT
is nearly impossible. The Commission of enquiring the Position paper
also critically identified this burden of proof of making this
distinction now lies on Israel. Therefore, third states that are
actually dealing with any of these entities in Israel have

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the obligation to make clear this distinction, otherwise they will
be found complicit in this wrongful act. Beyond AMS, this
obligation of non assistance also includes areas of economic, diplomatic, cultural,
and academic relations. Third states are obliged to seize all financial, trade, investment,

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and economic relations with Israel that maintain or support the
unlawful occupation and the apartheid.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
War.

Speaker 12 (01:23:34):
Economies are usually organized such that making this distinction between
financial institutions that are located in Israel and not contributing
to the unlawful presence of Israel and the OPT is
nearly impossible. Therefore, banks, financial institutions, and other such institutions
stand complicit in the maintenance of this unlawful situation, and

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third states therefore have a duty to not trade with
them to not be complicit. In accordance with the ICJ orders.
States are also obliged not to provide aid to academic,
research or cultural institutions.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
That support the occupation.

Speaker 12 (01:24:13):
And here again we draw on the extensive work done
by Palestinian colleagues and academics for decades now that trace
the direct connection between Israeli academia and the armed forces
that operate in the opt making it impossible to again
identify this distinction where does one stop and the other begin.
All these obligations are not just incumbent on states for

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their own action, but also extend to all persons and
corporations that are domiciled in the jurisdictions of states. Having
adequate legislation at the national level to hold individuals and
corporations that are engaged in rendering aid and assistance to
the unlawful situation are therefore prerequisites for states to have

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in place now. At the same time, having that respects
the freedom of expression and assembly and does not criminalize
support for Palestinian rights, something that the Special Raperteurs have
outlined in their statement a few weeks ago. Including criminalizing
Palestinian support for measures outlined by the ICJ such as boycotts,

(01:25:18):
divestments and sanctions is now in direct contravention to the
Advisory Opinion. Finally, we have witnessed this for decades now,
but especially over the last year, Israel has systematically infringed
upon its duties towards the UN, violating protections afforded to
UN bodies such as UNA and UNIFIL, reflected in the

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unprecedented number of UN staff members killed and the repeated
repeated assaults on UN facilities across the geography. The latest
Israeli legislation banning UNA, as many of you have rightly
pointed out.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
Is absolutely outrageous.

Speaker 12 (01:25:58):
Other than being in direct con trevention to the three
ICJ Preliminary Measures orders, this action is also in violation
of Article five of the one oh five of the
UN Chatter. Condemnation is not sufficient for this absolutely devastating
impact that it will have on the Palestinian people. Furthermore,

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Israel's refusal to engage with UN mechanisms not allowing visits
from special reperteiurs and independent commissions of inquiries attacking them,
declaring the Secretary General persona non grata, flouting rules of
the UNGA and multiple multiple Security Council resolutions are all
violations of Article twenty five of the UN Charter. Therefore,

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in line with the chatter, Member States, for the sake
of maintaining international peace and security, must suspend Israel from
the UN General Assembly. This is not an exceptional ask.
This is not specific to one state or another. It
has in fact been undertaken before for the Apathet trasrem
in South Africa and several other states. Indifferent for us

(01:27:06):
of the UN, because we are at a critical juncture now,
the stability, along with the legitimacy of this post World
War II international legal order is hanging by a.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Thread if it still exists.

Speaker 12 (01:27:21):
This is a direct result of decades of impunity extended
to the State of Israel. We, as palest and in
civil society organizations, along with our allies, are working on
bringing these legal obligations that I have discussed to all
the mechanisms available to us internationally but also and importantly nationally,
Submitting communications to the ICC to the special procedures to

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the commissioners, and bringing national litigation as and where is necessary.
The protests and the streets, and the campuses, and the
docks and the weapon factories are visible manifestations of these
efforts and a clear sign that this movement will only
continue to glow until we reach liberation. The genocide on

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the ground continues unabated, the occupation or since, and the
apartheid is more entrenched than ever before. How member states
that are sitting in this chamber today respond to their
legal obligations that have come through all the legal work
that has been done, including bringing an end to the occupation,

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the apartheid, dismantling the settlements and colonies, returning the land
back to the Palestinians, allowing Palestinian refugees to return, will
only determine the credibility of this institution and this multilateral
system in general, and ensuring Palatinan people's inalienable right to
self determination. Liberation is the only way forward out of

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the situation we find ourselves in today.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Thank you, missus Patela. I would like to say how
much we appreciate the work you are doing on the
ground defending promoting the rights of policyians, and so we
appreciate a lot the collaboration we are having the Committee
and the organization. We thank you for your very relevant

(01:29:15):
briefing focused mainly on third states legal responsibilities. I think
this is very important, so thank you so very much.
We have now listened to all our distinguished panelists, whom
I thank for the pertinent statements. Now, as it is

(01:29:35):
the usual practice, I would like to open the floor
for questions or statements by Committee members and observers and
other member states. I would encourage colleagues to make short
interventions and if they have questions, they can also raise
those questions.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
To our panelists.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
We should gather a few questions before giving the flow
the speakers. So let's start, and please signal if you
want to take the floor. I can see Kuba as
the first speaker. Cuba, you have the floor.

Speaker 13 (01:30:10):
Thank you very much, Chairman ALICKI. Whenever somebody who is
used to covering the situation in Palestine is given the
possibility of speaking, they start with a very long sigh

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before they actually start speaking. Now that's a sigh which
exposes pain, frustration, solidarity, but most of all a great
deal of love for the.

Speaker 14 (01:30:50):
People of Palestine.

Speaker 13 (01:30:53):
Simultaneously, that long sigh, at least speaking personally here, also
expresses real anger about those committing genocide and those who
are complicit in the commission of that genocide. Today, we

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must not forget to mention the matter of simplicity in
the commission of genocide, because we believe it is critical
to look at the root cause why it has spread
so much, this genocide against the Palestinian people. We have

(01:31:45):
at the United Nations heard on many occasions people mention
that the State of Israel has the right, the legitimate
right to self defense. Perhaps it would be enlightening if

(01:32:06):
we asked ourselves whenever we mention that the State of
Israel has the right to defend herself, that we're not
giving them a cut blanche to kill Palestinians. Let us
go over very briefly what we have recently seen and
what we've seen within the United Nations. The civilian population

(01:32:30):
is being attacked indiscriminately. There has been the murder of
more forty two thousand Palestinians, the majority of them women
and children, sixty percent of them according to you, and
women and entire people has been displaced. There has been
murder of UN personnel. There has been murder of accredited journalists.

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There have been attacks against UNIFILM, and the Secretary General
of the United Nations has been declared a persona non grata.
There has been destruction before our very eyes of the
UN charter at the General Assembly, which is turning into

(01:33:20):
a mere puppet or clown assembly.

Speaker 14 (01:33:26):
In Lebanon, we have seen.

Speaker 13 (01:33:31):
The areas where our credited embassies are in that country attacked.
So where are we going to end up? What sort
of world have we become? I think that it's high
time for us to act without double standard or hypocrisy,
and I would like to ask the panelists, whom I

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would like to thank for being here, what more we
can do. But I think there's also the question of
the ICG, the ICJ. They have given us a roadmap already.
They have clearly defined what complicity in genocide means, and

(01:34:17):
they have shown us the next steps that need to
be taken. Special procedures have also done this time and
again clearly without leaving room to doubt. And so we
are left wondering why we cannot make headway and hold

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this genocide. So, Chair, colleagues, if the Palestinians are still upright,
resisting and struggling, surviving, we need to ensure that they
are not left to fall.

Speaker 14 (01:34:56):
We can't leave them to die.

Speaker 13 (01:35:00):
We need to stop this collective murder which is being
carried out. We need to support them without hypocrisy, without
double standards. We need to help them ensure their country
can be free and independent, as they deserve and as
they have one for themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
Thank you, I think the Ambassador of Cuba. Let me
indicate that on my list of speakers I have Malta, Malaysia,
Sri Lanka, Egypt and Indonesia. I give the flow to
the Ambassador of Malta.

Speaker 15 (01:35:34):
Thank you Chev. I also thank the two Special Reports Commissionersdots,
whereas all the briefers for their very insightful briefings. Chair,
as we have been consistently unrepeatedly stating during our term
on the Security Council as well as another international fora

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the situation for Palastinian civilians throughout the Occupied Palestine in
territory Gaza, the West Bank, including is Jerusalem is deplorable,
tragic and catastrophic. What is unfolding in North Gaza in
particular is completely unacceptable and simply cannot go on. Malta
has been unequivocal in its cause for an immediate and

(01:36:18):
permanency is fire for the unhindered humanitarian aid into and
across the strip. Furthermore, Multiria traces firm condemnation of the
seventh October atrocities and continues to call for the immediate
and unconditional release of all hostages. Here I would like
to make a little aside and respond to the Commissioner,

(01:36:38):
who I think was a bit unfair in saying that
the Security Council has not saved one live yet, because
we have actually worked very, very hard, and it's true
that we have had four resolutions which haven't been entirely implemented.
But the resolution penned by MULTA twenty seven to twelve
adopted last November, did lead the way to negotiate agreement

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for which saw a seven day pause, and I believe
that lives were saved in those days. We would have
liked to have seen that pause continue and BS is fire.
It is unfortunate that not all of the Council could
agree to such a terminology, But if we have learnt
one thing in the last year, of this war is

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that the only way to resolve the issue was through
a procedure like that and through diplomacy, because since the
implementation of Resolution twenty seven twelve, after those seven day pause,
we have seen only death and more destruction. And the
achievement of the clad Israeli goes of their wars with

(01:37:45):
their war was definitely not achieved through the war, but
it could have been achieved through implementation of such resolutions.

Speaker 16 (01:37:53):
So we have learnt.

Speaker 15 (01:37:54):
One thing for sure that diplomacy here and dialogue is
what is needed. Will continue to use every platform that.

Speaker 16 (01:38:02):
We have as Malta to ensure that we call for
cease fires and we use all our influence possible to
force the parties to considering entering into the cease fire
and to saving as many lives as we can, because

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even as we speak here today, people are dying and
we cannot continue seeing these atrocities any longer. Too little
is being done to save guard civilians, women and children
continue to suffer disproportionately, and it is something which is
horrific to us all and is hurting all of us
at the un Equitable accountability is needed across the board.

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We are deeply disturbed by the alarming conclusions of the
report published by the OHCCHR and the Commission of Inquiry.
Justice and Accountability, including through the ICC, is owed to
all victims of crimes committed through this conflict. We stress
that respecting and implementing the findings of international judicial institutions,

(01:39:08):
including the j is fundamental for the multilateral system. This
is also key if we are to see the full
realization of the inaliable rights of the Palestinian people. As
a credible, irreversible realization of the two state solution, and
I stress irreversible, as we stress it constantly, we are

(01:39:30):
now at a point where the two state solution is
the only solution that we have to focus on. Chair
before I conclude, it would be remiss of me not
to mention the unprecedented situation currently faced by HONRA, an
agency that for decades has served as a stabilizing force
in the region. Millions of Palestinian refugees depend on it,

(01:39:53):
and it must be allowed to carry out the mandate
given to it by the General Assembly. We therefore call
on Israel to RESCIN the lowest targeting the agency, which
are contrary to international law.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Thank you, I think my dear Colleague of Malta, I
now give the flaw to the Ambassador of Malaysia.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Thank you, Chair.

Speaker 17 (01:40:15):
I also wish to thank Miss Francesca Albanese, Miss Tellila Mofoken,
Commissioner Christi Dotti, Miss Diana Butu, and Miss Anisha Patal
for their briefings and also their immensely important work and contribution.
Malaysia agrees that we are at a critical juncture which

(01:40:38):
would determine not only the future of Palestine, but also
that of the rules based international order that we have
worked so hard to build since the last Great War.
We also concurred that it is extremely vital that Member
States stand in solidarity with Palestine, uphold international law and

(01:40:59):
miss every effort to ensure the full implementation of all
relevant YOU and resolutions, as well as the orders and
opinions of the International Court of Justice to stop chinocide
in Palestine for the sake of humanity and our collective future.
We're also well aware of the systematics, mere campaign and

(01:41:22):
wicked tactics perpetrated by Israel to undermine YOU and entities
and mechanisms, including the Human Rights Council, mechanisms of which
some of our distinguished briefers are members. We salute their
dedication and commitment in performing their responsibilities, which have become

(01:41:44):
more important than ever before. In this regard, Malaysia urges
all Member States to continue illustrating their unequivocal solidarity and
support for all you entities and mechanisms that are working
on Palestinian related matters. It is also important for us

(01:42:05):
to make every effort to ensure that all the entities
and mechanisms on Palestinian related issues are being protected and facilitated,
as well as allocated with sufficient resources to carry out
their important responsibilities.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Thank you, Chair, I thank my dear colleague of Malaysia.
I now give the flow to the Ambassador of Sri Lanka,
who happens to be also the chair of the UN
Committee on Israeli Practices affecting the Human Rights of the
Persian people and other Arabs of the Occupied Territories Umber

(01:42:45):
Sad you have the flow.

Speaker 5 (01:42:47):
Thank you Embarassador Shik for giving me the flow. The
situation in Palestine and its people can be described very briefly,
perhaps as a struggle for certainty and human rights amid
enduring conflict and displacement, marked by daily resilience in the

(01:43:09):
face of political and humanitarian catastrophe. I don't need to
say more because the briefers have been very very clear
in what they said. The picture is very clear and
perhaps very gloomy. So I thought I'd probably offer some
encouragement to those of them who are working so relentlessly
on this matter, who are investigating Israeli practices in human

(01:43:33):
rights violations in Palestine, and to emphasize the importance of
your work for achieving justice, accountability and long term peace,
and in that endeavor, let me offer the encouragement in
this way. We recognize that the committees and all those

(01:43:55):
who are working together their work is crucial for upholding
its national human rights and humanitarian law, that it reinforces,
that your work contributes to a broader system of global
accountability and the protection of fundamental rights. Secondly, we must colleagues,

(01:44:18):
recognize the efforts to bring transparency to a complex and
sensitive issue.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Your investigations.

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
Their investigations shed light on actions that impact millions of
lives and offer the international community credible insights to make
informed decisions. Thirdly, we must remind ourselves that the work
of everybody who's working on this is a contribution of
the UN's historic mandate to promote peace, peace, security and justice,

(01:44:49):
particularly in conflict regions such as Palastine. Then that your
efforts provide a voice for the many Palestinian civilians effect
by the conflict. That accountability is essential for meaningful peace
in the region, and your work serves as a step
forward holding all parties accountable for their actions. And we

(01:45:12):
must publicly, I say, acknowledge and celebrate the dedication, the integrity,
and the courage required to conduct these investigations. We today
express gratitude for your commitment, especially given the challenge and
sensitivity is involved in investigating such issues. We also attach
importance to your independence and impartiality in achieving legitimacy and credibility.

(01:45:39):
We are urged today all member states, organizations and other
stakeholders to cooperate fully with the works of the Committees
your collaboration because their collaboration can help the committee. Your
collaboration can help the committees gather comprehensive evidence. And finally,
we must assure the Committee members that their findings will

(01:46:01):
not be ignored but lead to actionable steps by the
international community. And finally, reaffirm commitment to providing necessary resources
and the protection necessary for Committee members and others working
in this regard, ensuring that they have the support they
need to conduct thorough and secure investigations in a challenging environment. So,

(01:46:25):
my dear friends, encouraging everyone who's working on this so
committedly will help maintain I believe the resolve and the
effectiveness ensuring their contribution to meaningfully ensuring justice, transparency and
their efforts will yield results in their efforts in Palestine.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
I thank you, thank you very much, dear colleague.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
I now give the flaw to the distinguished Representative of Egypt.

Speaker 18 (01:46:56):
Thank you, Sachair.

Speaker 19 (01:46:58):
And I would like to thank briefers for their input
in the comfort of those rooms we are seated in.
Civilians are being killed by the minute in Gaza, in
the wider occupied Palestinian territories, women, children, elderly persons with

(01:47:22):
disabilities by the minute, and yes, we haven't been able
to collectively stop the war and save lives, but it
is heartening to know that there are still individuals with
the integrity and the human conscience to make the case.

(01:47:43):
So your work is important, important because you help the
Palestinian people to build on the sustain the narrative of
their just cause to exercise and to fulfill their an
alien right to self determination towards the establishment of their independent,

(01:48:06):
contiguous state on the borders of for June nineteen sixty seven.
In this connection, yes, it is a genocidal war of aggression.
The war machinery is continuing, and it is only an
episode in a very long, protracted series of a sustained

(01:48:26):
and persistent violation of international law through the continued occupation
of Palestinian land. And we here salute the resilience, the
long term resilience of the Palestinian people in the face
of the atrocities that they have been facing and confronting
throughout their existence. It is crime. It is a crime

(01:48:54):
of genocide. It is not only systemic, it is individual
and systemic. And yes, statements that have come out from
leaders are dehumanizing Palestinians and paving the way for that
genocide and this has to stop. As Egypt as a

(01:49:18):
party concerned in that in fighting for the Palestinian calls
throughout our history, we are working towards the ceasefire, but
also working towards the humanitarian assistance, the axis, the untindered
immediate access of humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian people, especially

(01:49:40):
now in Gaza, and we will continue to work on
that in parallel. And we would like to voice our
position in total rejection and objection to any attempts to
discredit the integrity of reports and individuals and experts parts

(01:50:00):
who have been voicing the concerns and raising our voices
for the just cause of the Palestinian people in order
for them not to be put into oblivion. So maybe
the words are not enough, but the keep the cause
alive and into the attention and in our work in

(01:50:22):
our eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Thank you, I think my dear college from Egypt for intervention.
The remaining members state on my speaker's list is Indonesia.
I give the flow to the distinguished of Indonesia.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Have the flow.

Speaker 20 (01:50:42):
Thank you, Messador. Thank you also to the briefers for
their very frank briefings. We are, of course cravily horrified
by the continued violent acts of Israel against the Palestinians
that have been deprived of their basic rights and fifty
seven years of illegal occupation. It must stop now. The

(01:51:06):
imposition of conditions leading to imminent famine demonstrates Israel's intent
to eliminate Palestinian populations fulfilling the criteria of genocide under
international conventions. Yet, as we see, Israel is given a
free pass to repeatedly violate international law, including their most

(01:51:29):
recent move to adopt the two legislation that would force
a halt to UNDERUS operations in violations of the UN Charter,
international humanitarian law, and relevant resolutions. On this note, my
delegation would like to post questions, in what ways the
recent Israel bills to outlaw UNDRA have the potential to

(01:51:53):
heighten the scale of genocide even further and in what
ways will the attack against UNDRA impact your duty special
reporters as mandate holders.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
I thank you, thank you very much, dear colleague.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
Now I'm going to open the floor for non state
members who want to take the floor, and please signal
and also identify yourself to yourselves when you start speaking,
press the button and then you can speak.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
I can see you Gandha is requesting for the flaw. No,
thank you, yes, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 21 (01:52:38):
Please, thank you Chair of the Committee, and thank you
to the brief ust the special report to us for
your very important briefing. We remain deeply concerned with the
worstening situation unfolding in the occupied Palestinian territory. This continued
loss of civilian lives, the humanitarian crisis and destruction of

(01:52:58):
property is deeply disturbing. We continue to monitor the humanitarian
impact of the conflict on civilian populations. This demands our
urgent attention, and we continue to call for humanitarian assistance
to the affected people, who remain concerned that the recent
developments risk impeding all efforts for peaceful resolution of the

(01:53:19):
Palestinian question. We all member states must remain committed to
upholding the chart of the UN and international law. It's
our common responsibility to ensure and protect the inalienable rights
of the Palestinian people to statehood. A human tragedy continues
to unfold, and we must be vocal in driving actionable
outcomes at the u N to respond to this prolonged

(01:53:43):
historic injustice. We remain committed to this court to this cause,
and we continue to call on the international community and
all actors to master the courage and exact all efforts
to pursue a just and comprehensive peace in Palestine.

Speaker 9 (01:53:57):
I thank you, I.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Think the dishing Uganda for his statement. Now let me
I have two requests from the flow. I have numbers,
so the number of the seaties one zero eight zero.
Please take the floor and I identify yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
Please, thank you, yes, thank you. Share. I'm David Wildman.

Speaker 22 (01:54:29):
I'm one of the co chairs of the NGAO Working
Group on Israel Palestine, and it's a pleasure to be
here today with this grim subject. But I just want
to offer my thanks an expression on behalf of the
Jail Working Group, to the Committee and also to all
the panelists for really the important work you've been doing
all year long, not just at this panel today. The

(01:54:50):
question I'd like to ask for the panelists is a
number of years ago, the Human Rights Counsel adopted a
resolution around a data of looking at corporate complicity, and
it seems to me that coming out of the resolution
on the ICJ opinion from this past September, that i'd
invite comments from the panelists about the need for the

(01:55:12):
General Assembly to take up this database approach of gaming
those that are not in compliance with the provisions of
the advisory opinion, corporations and other non state actors as
well as member states.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Thank you very much. Now, thank you very much for
your question.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
And once again I would like to express our gratitude
for the corporation we are having with the committee. You
are regularly invited in our events, so thank you so
very much. Now I give the flow to the next speaker.
You have the flow, say I can see you can
have the flow. Thank you, Jef, and thank you to
the panelist. My name is Sola As.

Speaker 23 (01:56:00):
I'm from the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement and it
would like the panel to comment on the complicity of
other states, institutions and cooperations in Israel's ongoing and livestream
genocide against two point three million people in Gaza and
the entrenched apartheid against all Palestinians, including Palestinian refugees who

(01:56:22):
have denied their right to return. Chair is zionis settler
colonialism would not have been able to come to this
point of carrying out genocide if it was not for
the complicity of states, institutions and corporations. This complicity is
reflected in recognizing as legitimate or normalizing an illegal situation

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and a crime. It is also by arming, funding and
trading and investing in this criminal situation. It is also
shielding Israel from accountability the Palatinian civil society is very
clear on what shoill happen. This is not only in
the interests of Palestinians and stopping genocide and ending Apotheid,

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but for the sake of the multilateral system based on
the rule of law, a military embargo must be imposed
on Israel. Sanctions, straight sanctions and ending diplomatic relations by
states must be also carried out, and Israel must be
suspended from the UN Journal Assembly.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Thank you, I.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Thank you, sir for your question, questions and statement. A
number of questions have been asked and a series of
comments have been made. I'm going now to give the
flaw back to the briefers, and I will invite them
to respond to the question they want to respond to,
and to make comments on the comments that have been made,

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and then at the same token to make their final
comments for this session. Maybe I'll start by Special Reporter
Francis Calbanese, and then I'll go to Special Reporter Mofo King,
and then Commissioner sid Ta. I don't know whether Butto
is available, She's available on than Butto, and then we'll

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have missus the initial part of so special apport to Francisca, and.

Speaker 6 (01:58:17):
Thank you Chair, and thank you delegates and other participants
for your questions. I will address first uh the question
from the representative of Kuba, what can we what can
you do? First of all, having a clear strategy of
what is needed. I speak from a very clear standpoint

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international law, and what international law obliges you to do
is if you really need to be to have a
scheme and the general side, and the general side is
not a war in order to have a I mean, look,
I hear you speaking, and I respect you a lot,

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but something inside me shakes because you I mean, you're
talking of this as if there were two armies confronting
each other. If it's a war, If it's a conflict,
it's between a people who are trying to resist on
the little that remains of their land, frankly, and one
of the most powerful armies in the region. And again

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I insist on the settler colonial framework, and I insist
on this on the ground that this is how we
can read it from an international point of view, because
it's the most basic infringement of the law of self determination.
If you don't understand that this is a settler colonial conflict,

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then please don't call it a conflict. So and the
genocide now, now this is it is to happen. Now
then with incept within the framework, then the General Assembly
has so before September next year, end of the occupation
and then long term end of a power tide. This

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is what it is to be done. And there are
things that you can do. First of all, all member
states and together with other reportors I think it was
thirty of us, but also the Commission of Inquiry, we
have issued recommendations on how to comply within International Court
of Justice advisory opinion.

Speaker 4 (02:00:25):
So review all engagement.

Speaker 6 (02:00:29):
That you are enties that your states have with the
State of Israel. And again it's nothing against the State
of Israel per se, it's the State of Israel as
a persistent violator of international law. And then arms embargo
and other forms of transfers including oil have to be suspended.
And again, while I look at the West, and I'm

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very critical of the part of the world that come
from many many states from the Global South still left
ties with Israel. And again we need to have clean
hands on this at the moment that genocide is being committed.

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
So these relations have to be suspended.

Speaker 6 (02:01:04):
Review political, economic, diplomatic, military, and strategic relations with Israel, because,
let's be frank, many states are looking at Israel also
with a bit of admiration in the way it manages
to win over the I mean through its gain impunity,
go ahead with its impunity, I mean the way Israel

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is genocideing the Palestinian population is also setting a new model,
presenting a new script on how to deal with people
who are considered an encumbrance and can be Palestinian Lebanese,
but in another setting, in another country, can be political opponents.
This represents a risk for all of us, for all

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of you, and then you accountability. I look at Arab
countries as a source of hope.

Speaker 4 (02:01:59):
March.

Speaker 6 (02:02:00):
Much more can be done to advance accountability. Join the
proceedings initiated by South Africa, please please and advance.

Speaker 4 (02:02:08):
And also those of you who are party to the
to the.

Speaker 6 (02:02:13):
Rome Statute, please please initiate a contribute to the investigation
that is being done. This is very powerful and symbolic,
on top of being technically needed. Another element that it's
very important. The Palestinians who have been displaced from Gaza

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are highly traumatized.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
I've seen it with my own eyes.

Speaker 6 (02:02:37):
Those who have been welcomed in Katari, in other other countries,
in Jordan, those who are in Egypt, they need protection,
protection needs. I think to all of you, I think
all of you who have welcomed them, but having them
just parked there is not enough.

Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
They need protection.

Speaker 6 (02:02:56):
And as someone who has studied the status and treatment
of Palestinians, including in Arab countries, I beg you, I
beg you, please don't treat them as unwelcome guests. They
need to be protected now more than ever. And this
doesn't require I'm not talking only to Egypt, Qatar and Jordan.

Speaker 4 (02:03:17):
I'm talking to Arab countries.

Speaker 6 (02:03:18):
This is a time to show true solidarity to the
Palestinians at the time they're being genocided. Justice also means
recognizing the value. I'm so happy to see the BDS
movement present here today.

Speaker 4 (02:03:32):
I think it's the first time that the BDS is the.

Speaker 6 (02:03:35):
General is participating in activities of the General Assembly, and
this is a sign of how times are changing and
changing fast. A number of countries have even criminalized the BDS.
The BDS that in other countries, like in South Africa,
has been strategic in advancing the end of apartheid. More
needs to be done, including in Arab countries to support

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the BDS and in discussing with countries Members of this
Assembly which criminalize the BDS. Indonesia asked how the assault
on ANDRO and the last the name in the coffin
was the outlawing the organization through an act of the

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Israeli Parliament.

Speaker 4 (02:04:24):
How does it affect if it.

Speaker 6 (02:04:26):
Can also be seen as part of the genocidal assault
on the Palestinian I think it is in two respects.

Speaker 4 (02:04:32):
And one is very clear.

Speaker 6 (02:04:34):
ANDRE does represent a lifeline for the Palestinians in Gaza,
not only for what it does and provides, which might
be very little compared to the needs, but what it
can provide and has the capacity to assist the Palestinians
in a way that no other agency can.

Speaker 4 (02:04:53):
And so the fact of.

Speaker 6 (02:04:55):
Incapacitating and RA is going to have a clear serious
humanitarian impact on the on the already tragic humanitarian situation
in Gaza. But also, while cultural genocidey is not an
element of the crime, jurisprudence is clear that attacking the identity,

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the sense of life, the sense of collective, collective.

Speaker 4 (02:05:23):
Sorry collective identity.

Speaker 6 (02:05:25):
Of the people can contribute to identified genocidal intent. And
this is what I think is behind the assault. Onna
They didn't start on October seven. It has been decades
of vilification and and threats against against the agency that
now of course have escalated and with design and thank

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you so.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
Much, Thank you very much, special reporter. Now I go
to special Lelling Mophoken for final comments preceded if you want.
By responding to questions and comments made by.

Speaker 7 (02:06:01):
Thank you Chev, I just want to reiterate that what
is required at the moment is the protection the promotion
of human rights of the Palestinians, and that human rights
continue to be a guiding compass and a solution orientated
framework that we should all be behind, and that in

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fact what is required right now is not more practices
of benevolence or in kindness, but we need to understand
that these are real issues of human rights of life
and death, and from a right to health perspective, Palestinians
are entitled to a system of health protection that means

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quality health care but also underlying determinants of health that
provide them in an equality opportunity for them to enjoy
the highest attinable standard of health and at the moment
they do not have that enjoyment and that and in
the General Comment number fourteen, the International Covenant on Economic,

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Social and Cultural Rights reiterates that states are obliged to
respect the right to health by inter alia, refraining from
denying or limiting equal access for all persons, including prisoners
or detainees, to preventative, curative and pellative health services. And
in particular it states that member states should refrain from

(02:07:29):
limiting access to health services as punitive measure during a conflict,
as well as, of course, as we have now concluded
that a genocide is happening to the Palestinian people, and
these are immediate obligations and they include the guarantee of

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non discrimination and equal treatment, as well as the obligation
to take deliberate, concrete and targeted steps towards the full
realization of the right to health. And all member states
have a legal obligation to comply with the ICJ ruling.
And therefore it's important, perhaps and a different angle from

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a right to health, but also investigate and prosecute those
subjects to their jurisdiction who are involved in crimes in
the occupied Palestinian territory, including those with dual citizenship who
are serving in the Israel military, including mercenaries, and those
who are involved in settler violence, and that we do

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indeed need an immediate cease fire. We need an end
to their legal occupation and an end to the genocide.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
I think you Chair, thank you very much, Mofokeng, and
argue the flow to Commissioner Christidity.

Speaker 9 (02:08:53):
Thanks Ambassador. Three very brief comments.

Speaker 8 (02:08:58):
First, the Representative Malta has had to go, but I
do want to thank her for her intervention and reminding,
correcting me and reminding me of that Security Council decision
on the short pause last year. She's absolutely right, and
it's good to be corrected because that short pause gives

(02:09:19):
me hope and indicates that in fact, something is possible
when I feel that nothing is possible.

Speaker 9 (02:09:26):
So I'm very pleased to be corrected. Secondly, on UNRA.

Speaker 8 (02:09:34):
I agree with what has been said, but I just
want to make one very brief point on UNRA.

Speaker 9 (02:09:40):
UNRA has been.

Speaker 8 (02:09:43):
Very diligent in responding to allegations that have been made.
There have been investigations, there was action taken in relation
to nine out of in excess of thirteen thousand staff.

Speaker 9 (02:09:58):
When the Israeli Defense for acts as seriously as UNRA does.

Speaker 8 (02:10:03):
In dealing with investigations, then I might take the allegations
of the Israeli.

Speaker 9 (02:10:08):
Government more seriously. Third complicity.

Speaker 8 (02:10:15):
The representative Cuba, the Ambassador, has raised this question.

Speaker 9 (02:10:18):
So did David, so did Saleh.

Speaker 8 (02:10:22):
The issue of complicity has become crystal clear during the
course of the last year as a result of the
applications for arrest warrants by the Prosecutor of the ICC,
the provisional measures orders by the International Court of Justice,
and the advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice.

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If there was doubt, there is no longer any doubt.
With the reports that the Special Rapporteur has produced, other
rapporteurs have produced, our Commission of Inquiry has produced. No
one can say now we did not know. No one
can hide behind accidental or wilful ignorance, And with the

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actions taken by the courts, no one.

Speaker 9 (02:11:10):
Can say we don't know what the law is.

Speaker 8 (02:11:15):
Aiding or assisting the commission of war crimes, crimes against
humanity or genocide. The crimes in the Roman Statute is
a criminal offense in itself, and it's not possible to
pretend that we don't know. In fact, the onus has
now shifted to those that are involved.

Speaker 9 (02:11:36):
In any way in relations with the State of Israel.

Speaker 8 (02:11:40):
The onners has shifted on to them to examine those
relationships and ask the question, is this in any way
aiding and assisting the maintenance of the unlawful occupation, the
continuation of the unlawful settlements, the displacement of Palestinian people

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from their land and property. There is an obligation to
consider those questions and to prevent action, not only not
to take action, but to prevent action.

Speaker 9 (02:12:12):
If those questions are answered, yes, there is.

Speaker 8 (02:12:16):
Yes, this is supporting directly or indirectly the occupation and
the settlements. So the facts are now clear, the law
is now clear, the legal obligations are now clear, and
we are entitled to expect that this be taken seriously
and those who act contrary.

Speaker 9 (02:12:36):
To law are held accountable.

Speaker 8 (02:12:40):
Sully referred to the database of the High Commissioner for
Human Rights. That's an important contribution to this, but the
High Commissioner has not had the resources to make it
as extensive and updated as it should be. Again, I'm
not winging complaining about our resources, but they're appalling. But

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the High Commissioner can make a great contribution to this
question of complicity at the moment and is unable to
do so. So perhaps the bottom line message is that
if you expect the High Commissioner or US or the
rapporteurs to do more, or even to do adequately what
we're currently expected to do, you've got to.

Speaker 9 (02:13:27):
Enable us to do it, give us what we need to.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
Be able to do it.

Speaker 8 (02:13:31):
But this question is now with complicity clear cut, and
that database becomes even more important.

Speaker 1 (02:13:39):
Thank you very much, Commissioner Christidity, and I've give the
flow to Commissioner a day in.

Speaker 10 (02:13:46):
The bottle, Thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (02:13:52):
You know, when you study international law, one of the
things that you learned, in fact that the main stay
of international law is studying about genocide. And the reason
that we study genocide is because it becomes the test
of the will of the international community. And so in

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studying international law and in studying genocide, you begin to
see the patterns that are engaged, that are used in
order to carry out a genocide, and those patterns all
of these distinguished figures have spoken about it and written

(02:14:34):
about it, but the patterns are so clear when it
comes to what Israel is doing today. And despite the
fact that we have all of this knowledge, and indeed
there is a great deal of knowledge, this is probably
the most over reported place in the world, there's still
an unwillingness to act.

Speaker 10 (02:14:54):
And that unwillingness to act.

Speaker 11 (02:14:56):
Leads me to believe that we have to for a
coalition that is going to go against the axis of genocide.
And I think that that is more. I think that
that's actually possible. But instead, what we've seen is that
because the United States and because Israel are on one side,
and nobody or very few are willing to challenge the

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United States or Israel, that we end up seeing many
many countries that are somehow sitting on the fence using
terminology that's incorrect, such as war, conflict, those sorts of things,
instead of taking the actions that are necessary. And anybody
who knows anything about genocide knows that the number one

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duty is to prevent genocide and then to stop it
when it's in place.

Speaker 10 (02:15:46):
And so it's incumbent upon the members in this room,
both as.

Speaker 11 (02:15:51):
Member states as well as us as individuals, both individually
and collectively, to do absolutely everything that is necessary to
stop this genocide and to stop Israel.

Speaker 10 (02:16:05):
From continuing to perpetrate its crimes not.

Speaker 11 (02:16:08):
Just in Gaza, but also in the West Bank and
against the Palestinian people as a whole. And so Francesca
has given some amazing interventions about ideas. Chris has done
the same. I'm not going to add to any of those,
and certainly Sla David have also given us some tools.
But what I do want to say is that it's

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time that we begin to speak as one voice, because
they're definitely speaking as one voice, and it's time for
those who oppose genocide, who believe in preventing genocide and
stopping genocide, to speak in one voice to counter.

Speaker 10 (02:16:45):
That axis of genocide.

Speaker 11 (02:16:48):
And I want to end by saying that you know,
for all of the since since the establishment of the
State of Israeli State of Israel, the only way that
it could have been established was through the dehumanization, systematic
dehumanization of the Palestine people.

Speaker 10 (02:17:03):
And when you think about it, who can live.

Speaker 11 (02:17:06):
On another's land, who can live literally inside the home
of another person, using their cutlery, their dishes, sleeping on
their bed, unless you've so dehumanized them to the point
where you don't see them any longer. And so it's
incumbent upon us to get to the point where we're
no longer dehumanizing Palestinians, forcing Palestinians to constantly be putting

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their genocide on display. Instead, it's incumbent upon us to
continue to act, to do whatever is possible with all
of the suggestions that have been given, because I refuse
to live in a world where Israel is considered above
the law and where Palestinians are considered to be beneath

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the law.

Speaker 1 (02:17:52):
And thank you, thank you very much, missus Daynabutu, and
the flow to missus Anisha Patel, thank you.

Speaker 12 (02:18:04):
Chev all the esteem speakers before. We have outlined all
the tools that we have already with us. And I
think after seventy six years of relentless atrocities that have
been inflicted on the Palestine people and documented and analyzed legally,
socially in all other aspects, I think the only call

(02:18:25):
is to bring this to an end. Accountability towards states, corporations, individuals,
institutions is now a legally binding obligation on everybody present here,
and it's it's not just on and I also want
to specifically echo what Commissioner Saidhorty said, let everybody who's

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doing their jobs do their jobs, including civil society. The
repression for following international law norms and outcomes that this
General Assembly or this group of States, this UN institutions
have created is unacceptable, not just for the sake of
Palestinian people and for ensuring their exercise of their inalienable

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rights to self determination, but for the legitimacy of this institution.

Speaker 1 (02:19:12):
Thank you, Thank you so very much, missus Anisha Pattel.
We have come to the end of this event. I
would like first of all to thank most warmly our
panelists n Nicaragua. Am I going to give you the
flaw you have to beg okay, you have the flow,

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which I guess.

Speaker 14 (02:19:36):
Yes, Thank you very much, distinguished Chair.

Speaker 13 (02:19:42):
I didn't hear your last works as I was preparing
my remarks. Chair representsive Pastine. First of all, I'd like
to express the fact that I have always supported and

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will always support Palestine. We reiterate our love and our
commitment to fight in this constant historical struggle which is
Palestine's for its national liberation. We thank the two special

(02:20:32):
reporteurs and the Commissioner, and Miss Bhuttu and Ms Patel
very deeply from the botto of my heart, and I'd
like to thank colleagues, representatives of states and the various
organizations have spoken alike.

Speaker 14 (02:20:53):
We share.

Speaker 13 (02:20:56):
The same feeling and opinion on this matter. But the
most important of all is that I have noted, as
Cuba did when their representatives started to speak, that we
all share the pain being born by the people of Palestine,

(02:21:19):
and not just in this room. We've all witnessed how
all of humankind actually is sharing not just this pain
but also solidarity with Palestine. All of you have quite
rightly pointed to the specifics of the current tragedy, But

(02:21:46):
what we would like to emphasize is what Mus Patel
and Cuba said, and various panelists two for Though we
should recall that we must never forget and spoke about

(02:22:07):
this earlier, we must never forget the vital responsibility of
the United Nations throughout this tragedy and pain to support
the people of Palestine. When the UN took the decisions
it took, and that can never be forgotten. There is

(02:22:29):
a responsibility encumbered upond the UN to find a solution
so that this cannot continue as it has been happening.
If we've seen so much suffering, repression and genocide, which

(02:22:50):
we can now see all over the world, we want
to highlight two things we fully read with Ms Patel.
It's not enough to just condemn this reality and this suffering.

(02:23:11):
Actions are needed now more than ever. In addition, there
was discussion about complicity. Ms Patel mentioned this others to
quite rightly pointing to the advisory opinion of the ic J,

(02:23:33):
and we wish to stress that above and beyond complicity,
the essential thing he is to put an end to
the policy of double standards. The Palestinian tragedy compels us
to put these policies to one side forever in all

(02:23:59):
multi life organizations. And we say that because we are
seeing it. If you take any organization where this situation
is presented, for instance, where we see double standards, we

(02:24:24):
see it when some states agree or even are obliged
to engage in a cease fire, but they continue to
ourm Israel. They continue with political, economic and military support
to Israel.

Speaker 14 (02:24:43):
Some states.

Speaker 13 (02:24:45):
Have also said that they support the two state solution,
but they do not recognize Palestine as a state. They
only recognize one state, and they say that support the
two state solution. We also know quite well why the

(02:25:08):
Security Council has been totally incapable of using the mechanisms
it has at its disposal under the Charter to put
an end to this genocide. But we do have to
point to something, which is that things are changing. We

(02:25:31):
share the frustration that there is within the UN that
what is being done, what needs to be done, is
not being done to halt this genocide. But there is
a change in the air. I've noticed the General Assembly
is speaking out with greater strength and support every day,

(02:25:56):
recalling the inalienable right to the Palestinian people, demanding that
justice be served for the people of Palestine.

Speaker 14 (02:26:02):
And we see this given that Palestine.

Speaker 13 (02:26:10):
Is in the room and the General Assembly and for
all meetings. We are taking steps in the right direction.
The European Union can no longer continue with this complicity,
denying the Palestinian people their rights. They must recognize Palestine
as a state. We are quite sure that it will.

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The more states recognized Palestine, it will become ever more
difficult to violate the rights of the Palatin people. I'm
sorry for speaking at some length, but I must express
our ongoing solidarity with Palestine.

Speaker 14 (02:26:53):
This is a national liberation struggle.

Speaker 13 (02:26:55):
Of course, we are convinced that Palistin de sign will
be free.

Speaker 14 (02:27:03):
This is something that applies to people.

Speaker 13 (02:27:08):
Across the world, even in the United States and with Europe,
where we've seen these double standards. Those who claim to
defend freedom of expression, but in their own country they're
arresting Palestine is or any city Pusans expressing their solidarity

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with the people of Palestine.

Speaker 14 (02:27:38):
These double standards must end.

Speaker 13 (02:27:41):
They're losing credibility all of these people supporting Israel and
standing behind them no matter what they say. It's also
absolutely critical to point to the Security Council. The Security
Council will be able to stop this only with great difficulty,

(02:28:02):
and so action in that connection is important. We have
the International Court of Justice. Nicaragua has turned to that
Court on the number of occasions, and we thank the
Court for all of its rulings on Palestine. Complicity has

(02:28:25):
to stop, But what do states have to do. It's
fundamental to stop the shipment of arms to Israel. This
is something European states can do. Apologies chair, but we

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just needed to share that that's also a priority.

Speaker 14 (02:28:52):
The ceasefire.

Speaker 13 (02:28:55):
Is required, but we need to demand that there are
no more shipments of arms to.

Speaker 1 (02:29:02):
I think my dear friend and colleague from Nicaragua, I
can see that there is another request from the floor
seat number one zero eight five, identify yourself and be
brief pleased.

Speaker 2 (02:29:15):
Thank you, Thank you very much.

Speaker 18 (02:29:19):
Mastercher for giving me the floor. I would like on
behalf of my delegation Islamic Republic of Iran to thank
you and the Committee of Palestinian in Elienable Rights for
come winning this briefing meeting. And I would also like
to thank distinguished speakers and prefers for their insightful and

(02:29:40):
comprehensive remarks. As a country that has always since the
illegal occupation of Palestine by a racist and apartheid regime
began many decades ago, expressed its objection and condemnation of
the colonial and extremist penocide and apartheid policies that have

(02:30:02):
been taken against the Palestinians. The Islamic Republic of Iran
once again unequivocally condemns the war crimes, genocide and crimes
against humanity perpetrated by the Israeli regime. In occupied Palestinian territory.
Master Chaer My delegation is of the opinion that among

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all the important and critical points shared by esteemed speakers
and panelists are those which we should seriously consider not
only as members of the international community, but also as
humanity terminating relations supporting judicial cases against occupation and genocide.

(02:30:46):
Reconsidered trials presence in different United Nations bodies, taking into
account activities they have done in contrary to conditions by
which their delegations membership the United Nations was accepted, and
other necessary actions that have mentioned in this meeting, must

(02:31:06):
seriously keep into consideration.

Speaker 2 (02:31:10):
All we heard.

Speaker 18 (02:31:11):
Today regarding the violating human rights of Palestinians and mass
crimes and brutality against civilians in Gaza and other traitories
under the aggression of Israel in our region, which embody
not only war crimes and acts of genocide, but also
across this regard for pemtary norms of international law and

(02:31:35):
human descency have a clear and meaningful message for the
United Nations. This message contains nothing but that the biggest
and most dreadful violation of human rights has been committed
and is continued to be committed by Israel in West Asia,

(02:31:58):
so there is nothing else important and crucial for all
human rights uan mechanisms to address, especially while currently the
entire system of the United Nations, including its charter and
its staff immunity, is facing systematic defiance and ignorance by
Israeli regime. Accordingly, we believe that these systematic attacks an

(02:32:23):
on law which has stood with Palestinian refugees for decades,
are part of a broader effort to dismantle Palestinian hope
and erase their cause, as well as undermining the role
of the United Nations. This was my question that I
wanted to ask distinguished panelists that, considering all several international resolutions, conventions,

(02:32:50):
pacts and covenants that exist to protect human rights, which
practical and necessary steps should be prioritized in the Nations
agenda and must be taken by the Member of States
of the United Nations to stop these human rights violations
against the people of Palestine, Lebanon and other occupatratories in

(02:33:12):
West Asia. However, I've already got the answer in final
remarks and comments kindly expressed by panelists, so I don't
want to take more time in this regard, just to conclude, Masterchair,
I just want to thank you and your colleagues again,

(02:33:33):
and while commending your efforts and seeking the realization of
Palestinian rights including their inable right to self determination and
a full fledged membership at the United Nations, assure you
and other extem panelist of my delegation support in this regard.

Speaker 2 (02:33:49):
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:33:52):
I think the distinguished repetitive of Iran for his statement
and for his question. But I have to indicate that
the question was they addressed by the panelists unless they
want to add something to what they said previously, but
I think it has been addressed. Thank you very much
for your encouragements to the committee, and we really appreciate

(02:34:14):
also your support and your commitment to the work of
this committee.

Speaker 2 (02:34:19):
We thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:34:20):
Now we have come to the end of our event,
I would like to thank most warmly our panelists. I
think the accounts have been enlightening and have once again
highlighted the urgent need to immediately, first of all, top
the current war in Gaza and also to address the
issue of accountability for the crimes perpetuated against Palestinians, and

(02:34:46):
also to finally put an end to the occupation. I
would like to thank our colleagues. I've seen here many
of our colleagues from member states and many ambassadories here.
I really appreciate the pleasance here. The mere fact of
being here is through testimony of the commitment and the
support of this course. And we also thank those who

(02:35:06):
have taken the flow to make comments ask questions. We
also thank non member states who have taken the flow
to ask questions and show their support. And we also
think all those who have been following us on.

Speaker 2 (02:35:20):
You and web TV.

Speaker 1 (02:35:22):
Events like this I think play essential role in exposing
the staggering level of suffering affecting Paresians. Our discussion reminds
us that we as the international community, civil society and
individuals alike, we must collectively be reretless in continuing to

(02:35:43):
advocate for just in peaceful solution to question of Palestine.
I know that there are so many things to be
achieved we seem to be slow in enacting. But the
mere fact of having that discussion, this kind of discussion,
I think will help us keep the story alive and
continue to promote the rights of the Palestinians. This will

(02:36:07):
only we will only stop talking when we come to
the end of the Isade occupation that began in nineteen
sixty seven, and this only will be stopping when we
will witness one day and wish wish that the day
happens as soon as possible the realization of the determination

(02:36:27):
and independence of the Palestian people. The world cannot fail
the Palestinians in the legitimate aspirations for freedom.

Speaker 2 (02:36:35):
But before closing, I.

Speaker 1 (02:36:37):
Would like to give the flaw to my colleague, Ambassador
Alhadi Nasa from the State of Palestine for her few
final comments.

Speaker 2 (02:36:47):
If she wants to do so, you have the from Ambassador.

Speaker 3 (02:36:51):
Thank you, Chair, and thank you to everyone for your
moving presentations, to all of our briefers, and to all
of the delegations and civil society representatives here for your
compelling calls for action, for accountability, and for your solidarity

(02:37:15):
with the Palestinian people in the face of decades of
injustice and crimes that shame and haunt us. All efforts
by governments, by you and bodies, by civil society, and

(02:37:38):
by millions of people around the world standing against this
inhumanity and seeking to act together to end this historic injustice,
and the coalition that was mentioned by Deanna that must
be strengthened. Our efforts must converge with immediate, tangible, legal

(02:38:00):
and political actions to end Israel's wanton violations of international
law and crimes against the Palestinian people, and to assist
them to realize their rights, including to return and to
self determination, and to realize the justice and freedom they
have long been struggling for. And so, mister chair I

(02:38:27):
for the empathy, the solidarity and the support extended to
the people, but also an appeal for that empathy and
solidarity and support to carry on. Do please do not
forsake the Palestinian people. Do not take for granted their

(02:38:50):
resilience on the front lines of this epic assault on
humanity and the international legal order in its entirety. Do
not succumb to the intimidation, to the incitement, to the
reckless allegations of anti Semitism. Do not accept the mocking

(02:39:12):
and disrespect of your countries, your principles, our multilateral system,
and our global family. Do not allow Israel to destroy
the international system painstakingly established nearly eighty years ago. Do
not become numb to the inhumanity, to the impunity. Do

(02:39:37):
not normalize the depravity, the killing of babies, children, women
and men. Do not normalize genocide. Stop arming, stop funding,
stop supporting this genocide and illegal occupation. Stop the complicity

(02:39:57):
and double standards. Stop justify this genocide which nothing can justify,
not October seventh, nothing. Please continue to act with all
the legitimate tools we have to insist on right over
might to protect and provide sustenance to the Palestinian people,

(02:40:20):
including by protecting and sustaining UNRA. To bring an end
to this nightmare our people have suffered for too long,
To end this nakbeh, to end this illegal occupation and
apartheid regime, to liberate them from decades of oppression and persecution.

(02:40:41):
To uphold the promise of international law and our collective humanity.
For the Palestinian people, but also for the future of
all peoples in every corner of the world.

Speaker 1 (02:40:52):
I thank you, asad A fed ub There Naser for
your very strong and moving remarks.

Speaker 2 (02:41:10):
We heard you.

Speaker 1 (02:41:12):
As per usual practice, The chair summary of this briefing
will be posted on the website of the Committee at
ww dot Unicipal dot UN dot org. The video recording
of this event will be also available on your web
TV and on the Committee's YouTube channel. Let me remind
you that you can also follow the committee

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