Stop the Killing in Gaza a United Nations Plea

Briefing reporters on the situation in Gaza, Secretary-General António Guterres said, “The way forward is clear. A humanitarian ceasefire. Now. All parties respecting all their obligations under international humanitarian law. Now.”

Speaking today (06 Nov) in New York, Guterres said that the nightmare in Gaza is more than a humanitarian crisis. It is a crisis of humanity, adding that the intensifying conflict is shaking the world, rattling the region and, most tragically, destroying so many innocent lives.

The UN chief reiterated his utter condemnation of the abhorrent acts of terror perpetrated by Hamas on 7 October – and repeated his call for the immediate, unconditional and safe release of hostages held in Gaza.

“Nothing can justify the deliberate torture, killing, injuring and kidnapping of civilians,” Guterres emphasized.

He highlighted, “The protection of civilians must be paramount.”

The UN chief said, “I am deeply concerned about clear violations of international humanitarian law that we are witnessing,” reiterating that “no party to an armed conflict is above international humanitarian law.”

Gaza is becoming a "graveyard for children." Hundreds of girls and boys are reportedly being killed or injured every day. More journalists have reportedly been killed over a four-week period than in any conflict in at least three decades. More United Nations aid workers have been killed than in any comparable period in the history of our organization, Guterres noted.

He saluted all those who continue their life-saving work despite the overwhelming challenges and risks.

The Secretary-General said, “The unfolding catastrophe makes the need for a humanitarian ceasefire more urgent with every passing hour. The parties to the conflict -- and, indeed, the international community -- face an immediate and fundamental responsibility: to stop this inhuman collective suffering and dramatically expand humanitarian aid to Gaza.”

Today, the UN and its partners are launching a $1.2 billion humanitarian appeal to help 2.7 million people – that’s the entire population of the Gaza Strip and half a million Palestinians in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

Some life-saving aid is getting into Gaza from Egypt through the Rafah crossing. But the trickle of assistance does not meet the ocean of need, Guterre said.

He explained, “The Rafah crossing alone does not have the capacity to process aid trucks at the scale required,” adding that “just over 400 trucks have crossed into Gaza over the past two weeks – compared with 500 a day before the conflict.”

The UN chief continued, “And crucially, this does not include fuel. Without fuel, newborn babies in incubators and patients on life support will die. Water cannot be pumped or purified. Raw sewage could soon start gushing onto the streets, further spreading disease. Trucks loaded with critical relief will be stranded.”

The UN chief also remains “gravely” concerned about rising violence and an expansion of the conflict. The occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, “is at a boiling point,” he added.

Guterres continued, “Let us also not forget the importance of addressing the risks of the conflict spilling over to the wider region. We are already witnessing a spiral of escalation from Lebanon and Syria, to Iraq and Yemen.”

He reitareted, "That escalation must stop. Cool heads and diplomatic efforts must prevail. Hateful rhetoric and provocative actions must cease.”

The Secretary-General also highlighted, “I am deeply troubled by the rise in antisemitism and anti-Muslim bigotry.”

He said, “Jewish and Muslim communities in many parts of the world are on high alert, fearing for their personal safety and security. Emotions are at a fever pitch. Tensions are running high. The images of suffering are heart breaking and soul crushing. But we must find a way to hold on to our common humanity.”

The UN chief concluded, “We must act now to find a way out of this brutal, awful, agonizing dead end of destruction. To help end the pain and suffering. To help heal the broken. And to help pave the way to peace, to a two-state solution with Israelis and Palestinians living in peace and security.”

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Episode Transcript

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Thank you for listening to Pictures MediaRadio. All right, good afternoon.

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Welcome the Secretary who makes some remarks, and then I'll do the briefing right
after that. Very good morning.The nightmare in Gaza is more than a
humanitarian crisis. It is a crisisof humanity. The intensifying conflict is shaking
the world, rattling the region andmost tragically, destroying so many innocent lives.

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Ground opressions by the Israel Defense forcesand continued bombardments are hitting civilians,
hospitals, refugee camps, mosques,church and UN facilities, including shelters.
No one is safe. At thesame time, Hammas and other militants use

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civilians as human shields and continue tolaunch rockets indiscriminately towards israel I rtorate my
utter condemnation of the abhorrent acts ofterror perpetrated by Hamas on seven October,
and repeat my call for the immediateand conditional and safe release of hostages held

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in Gaza. Nothing can justify thedeliberate torture, killing, injuring, and
kidnapping of civilians. The protection ofcivilians must be paramount. I am deeply
concerned about clear violations of international unitarianlaw that we are witnessing. Let me

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be clear, no party to anarmed conflict is above international humanitarian law.
Ladies and gentlemen of the press.Gaza is becoming a graveyard for children.
Hundreds of girls and boys are reportedlybeing killed or injured every day. More
journalists have reportedly been killed over afour week period than in any conflict in

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at least three decades. More UnitedNations Aid workers have been killed than in
any comparable period in the history ofour organization. I salute all those who
continue their life saving work despite theoverwhelming challenges and risks, and the unfolding

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catastrophe makes the need for a humanitarianceasefire more urgent with every passing hour.
The parties of the conflict, andindeed international community, face an immediate and
fundamental responsibility to stop the in umancollective suffering and dramatically expand humanitarian aid to

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God. Today, the United Nationsand our partners, the Honorable Member for
Avignon, mister speaker in this House, it's quite rare that we can speak
to good news on the environment.But here's a piece of good news.

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Washington State wants to join Quebec andCalifornia's carbon market. That would be a
real step forward toward creating a NorthAmerican carbon market. That's what Quebec dreamed
of when it created that tool tenyears ago. What Washington is doing should
inspire Canadian provinces. It's not onlythe environmental decision to make, but also

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that's what allows Quebec to be exemptedfrom the federal carbon tax. If Canadian
provinces are tired of being under thefederal carbon tax, they can get rid
of it in the Blink Vanie andstill better, they can do so by
joining a system that gives more leewayto individuals and instead focuses on big polluters.

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So once again, mister speaker,why just complain when you can find
concrete solutions? The honorable Member fromLeeds Grenville, Thousand Islands and Rita Lakes.
This NDP Liberal government has admitted thattheir carbon tax makes it harder for
Canadians to afford to heat their homes. Liberals said that only people who elect

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Liberals will get a break, butCanadians know. Canadians who can't afford to
heat, eat, or to housethemselves know that this Prime Minister just isn't
worth the cost. Now, peoplein Ottawa have elected seven Liberal MPs and
of course are common sense Conservative leader. So the question is today will the

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Prime Minister allow the seven Liberal MPsto vote to take the tax off so
Outawan's can keep the heat off Autow'sand all Canadians should know that under this
conservative leader in Canada's common sense Conservatives, we will vote to acts the tax
on gas groceries and home heating becausethis prime Minister isn't worth the cost.

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The honorable Member from Winnipeg North,thank you, mister Speaker. One of
the things I really enjoy is theopportunities to be able to visit Goodwadas.
You know, one of the mostcommon words I hear at the Goodwaters is
the issue of Seva. Sevah issomething which means to serve, to be
a volunteer, which brings me toKelsa Aid Canada. What a wonderful organization

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it is. Think about it,recognize the whole human race as one.
In team Winnipeg and across Canada manydifferent jurisdiction. Over this last weekend they
served groceries for international students and misterSpeaker in Winnipeg we've had growth the streets
provided to the main street project,the Bear Clan on Selkirk Avenue, Winnipeg

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Harvest. It's a wonderful way tosave, mister Speaker, and it's a
community that adds so much value.If you want to drop off some groceries,
feel free to go to one fivesix three Logan Avenue. Thank you,
mister Speaker. Just sell us alloral questions. Well, I had

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to look the honorable leader of theopposition. Quebecers have known for a long
time now that this Prime Minister isnot worth the cost. But the Block
doesn't seem to understand that. TheBlock apparently wants to drastically increase taxes and
they even support differential and preferential applicationof the taxes. And we've heard in

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the media that there's been a gearuaranteethat the Liberal Prime Minister will remain in
power for another two years. Soyet another costly coalition. What concessions did
the Prime Minister make to the BlackKubequa in order to stay in power for
another two years? The Honorable DeputyPrime Minister, mister Speaker, Our government

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was proud to follow in Quebec's footstepswhen it comes to daycare. Our government
is also very proud to follow inQuebec's footsteps when it comes to climate action.
Quebec has led very well. Quebecwas one of the first provinces to

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put a price on pollution and weare very happy to work with all Quebecers
for the Environmentlet I have shifted theHonorable Leader of the Opposition, Yes,
but myestion was for the Prime Minister, who is hiding and who is not
worth the cost. My question isabout the Block Quebequa's decision to vote in

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favor of home heating taxes today,though we've learned that the block's desire to
drastically increase this prime minister's carbon taxesare not random. The Block Quebecua,
in fact, has promised the PrimeMinister that they will keep him in power
in a two year costly coalition.What concessions did the block get in order

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to keep this incompetent and costly primeminister in power? The Honorable Minister,
Mister Speaker, the Opposition leader wantsto talk about Quebec. Fine, The
Opposition leader wants to move Quebec backwards. They want to move Quebec backwards on

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basic rights, women's rights, climatechange. They want to put firearms back
in the streets in Quebec. TheConservative leader he wants to send Quebecers and
Canadians back to the Stone Age.The Honorable Leader of the Opposition Prime Minister
is in Ottawa today, so thequestion is for him he is panicked now

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and put a pause on the carbontax for three percent of Canadians in ridings
where his polls are plumbing and hisMPs are revolting. Also revolting were the
comments of a Liberal rural Affairs ministerwho stated that other Canadians would have got
a pause in the pain if theyhad elected more liberals. Yet Northern Ontarians

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did elect liberals. So the questionfor the Prime Minister will he allow a
free vote for his northernps on ourcommon sense motion to keep the heat on
and take the tax off. TheHonorable Minister, thank you, mister speaker.
As I have explained to the Leaderof the Opposition through many, many

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different question periods over the past numberof days, film heating oil is two
to four times as expensive as naturalgas. It accelerated by seventy five percent
in twenty twenty two. We haveput into place a plan that will enable
people to get off heating oil tohave free heat pumps. It will save
them up to twenty five hundred dollarsa year, It will make it more
affordable and at the same time itwill allow us to fight climate change.

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That is true for the two hundredand seventy thousand households that use heating oil
here in Ontario, the Honorable Leaderof the Opposition, the question was for
the Prime Minister who first was dividingand now is in hiding. He wants
to quadruple his tacks, but nowhe's had to back down and give a

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pause to the pain for three percentof people in ridings where his poles are
plummeting and his MPs are in fullrevolt against him. His Liberal Minister of
Rural Affairs said, if people inother regions want the same pause on the
pain, they have to elect liberalMPs. However many did We have a
liberal MP in Calgary and one inEdmonton. Will they be allowed a free

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vote on the common sense conservative motionto take the tax off and keep the
heat on. Yeah, the HonorableMinister. It's important to have thoughtful public
policy prescriptions that address issues around affordabilityin a long term way, but also
actually addressed the issue of climate change. And I would say, mister speaker,

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the only person who is hiding inthis chamber is the leader of the
official Opposition, who is hiding thefact that he does not either does not
believe in climate change or he certainlydoesn't think it's very important. He has
not spoken the words climate change sincehe was elected, and he has no
plan. At some point he needsto tell Canadians, what is your plan
to address the climate crisis? Findthe honorable leader at the all position,

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mister speaker, I'm right here whilethe Prime Minister hides and divides. Why
wouldn't he hide? After all,he's in panic mode. He first promised
to quadruple the tax on everyone,and then after I beat him in that
debate, he decided to back downand lift the tax off three percent of
people for a short period of time. Is Rural Affairs Minister said that if

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other Canadians wanted the same pause fromthe pain, they needed to elect more
liberals. Well, thunder Bay electedto liberals. It's a very cold place.
Will the members for thunder Bay begiven a free vote on our motion
to take the tax off and keepthe heat on. The Honorable Deputy Prime

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Minister, Minister Finance, Mister Speaker, let me tell you is missing in
action when it comes to protecting Canadiansand their affordability. And I'm talking about
the affordability of life for our seniors. You know who's missing in action,
the Conservative leader. It took himtwenty nine days to speak up for the

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Canada Pension Plan, but none ofus should have been surprised because last year
he sought to eviscerate that plan,which is so important to every single Canadian,
by seeking to freeze contributions. Wecan't trust Conservatives with our pensions for
anything else. I'm gonna have theHonorable Member for the Prairie, mister Speaker.

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Last week, TVA had to layoff one third of its workforce.
That's five hundred and forty seven Quebectelevision professionals out of work in one fell
swoop. It's tragic and if it'shappening at TVA, it's bound to happen
elsewhere. It's inevitable. We can'tjust turn a blind eye and claim that
the new version of the Broadcasting Actand C eighteen will solve the problem.

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They won't not at all. Sothe question is simple, are we going
to watch television die little by littleand not do anything about it, or
is the government prepared to rethink everythingin order to save conventional TV. The
Honorable Minister, Mister Speaker, First, my thoughts go out to employees who

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have been affected by this layoff,and my thoughts are also with their families
at the beginning of the holiday seasons. Unfortunately, in telecommunications and in journalism
there is a rapidly changing landscape sincethe advent of online streaming services and online

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platforms. So we will work withall parties in this House to implement all
solutions that we can because our culturalindustries are essential for our democracy and our
society. Thank you, mister Speaker. The honorable Member for Lapri TV is
the channel through which information is sharedwith the people, the channel through which
our culture is shared. Television remindsus of who we are, what we

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can create, and what makes usunique, something that the YouTube's, Netflixes
and disneys of this world will neverbe able to do. Our television is
made by us and for us,and it's truly in danger as we watch
our channels disappearing and turning off.We're waiting for Ottawa to turn them back
on. But it's urgent. Whatwill it take for the government to wake

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up? The honorable Heritage Minister,Thank you, mister Speaker. I share
my colleagues's concerns. That's why intwenty twenty we introduced for the first time
an act to modernize the Broadcasting Act. But unfortunately the Conservatives have been blocking

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it and blocking it. They havetried to block us from trying to modernize
our auto audio visual universe and ourmedia landscape. Today the Conservatives claim that
we're trying to censure Canadians, butwhat we truly want is quality journalism everywhere
in the country. We want athriving cultural industry and creative industry that's essential
for democracy and for all of society. Thank you, mister speaker, the

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honible member from Vancouver East. Forthree decades, liberals and Conservatives rely on
the private market, and now theaverage rank will one bedroom is twenty five
hundred dollars a month. The government'sown housing advocate is calling for more community
housing that fit people's budgets, andthe Bank of Canada says investing in social

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housing wouldn't be inflationary. The Conservativeleader is calling investment in social housing a
Soviet style takeover. He's in itfor wealthy investors. The Liberals are failing
Canadians. Will the Prime ministers stopsiding with Conservatives and commit to doubling Canada's
social housing stock? The Honorable Ministerfor Housing, mister speaker, I agree

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wholeheartedly with my colleague, but theConservative leaders rhetoric around Soviet style housing to
describe cooperatives and mirrors the same heapproach he took over the course of the
summer when he labeled the Niagara Woman'sHome a shack. Dismissing the living quarters
of ordinary Canadians is entirely inappropriate.I further agree with the NDP member that
we need to continue to make thekinds of investments that will build more social

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housing for low income families. Wegot back into this game, into the
national housing strategy after thirty years ofabsence. We're going to continue to build
more homes so everyone can afford aroof over their head. The Honorable member
from Elmwood transcona thank you, misterspeaker. While people in Newfundland and Lavador
could certainly use some help when itcomes to their cost. Seventy seven percent

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are saying that they're living paycheck topaycheck. But what we continue to get
our answers that are not a commitmentto doubling that social housing stock or to
rec capitalize funds that the government's alreadycreated to build social housing even when it
doesn't cost them money. They won'tlift a finger. We stood by as
we watched the Competition Burrough fight toothand nail against the Roger Shaw merger.

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The government turned around and approved it. Now they have a chance to support
our initiative to strengthen the Competition Act. Will they do it? The honorable
minister, Mister Speaker, I wouldlike to take them member for his question.
In fact, mister Speaker, himand member of this House will have
an opportunity to do something for Canadians. I've asked that they do have the

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opposition to do one thing for Canadians, not something he does very often,
but one thing's to vote for CEfifty six, mister Speaker, because in
C fifty six Canadians will be happyto learn that at home. But we're
going to reform competition, mister Speaker. We're going to get more power to
the Competition Commissioner. We're going toremove these competents. These there's mergers that
are harmful to competition, and we'regoing to remove these clauses that are hurting

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competitions. We want more compet lowerprices in this country, Mister Speaker,
the honorable leader of the opposition,the NDP, voted sixteen times in favor
of the carbon tax. Its leaderhas supported quadrupling the tax on the home
heating of every single Canadian. Butafter working class union households have been abandoning

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his party for the Conservatives in droves, he is now flip flop. But
that has involved the courage of admittinghe was wrong. We all the Prime
Minister show the same courage and admithe, just like the NDP leader,
is dead wrong, and vote forour common sense motion to keep the heat
on and take the tax off theHonorable Minister, Mister Speaker, I find

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it helpful when you deal with peoplewho are closest to the problem. And
in Atlantic Canada, we have anEcology Action Center based in Halifax who wrote
a statement that I think was prescientto the debate that's going on here.
It says, energy poverty and climatechange represent a direct threat to working class
people in Nova Scotia. As asociety, we must work together to ensure

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households with low incomes can transition awayfrom expensive hossil fuels to technologies like Hey
pumps that are cheaper, better forour health and afford us the comforts associated
with heating and cooling. Policy makersare finally rising to meet the challenge.
Mister Spiker, the Honorable Member fromRegina Capel, after eight years, the

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Prime Minister is just not worth thecost. Now he wants to quadruple the
tax on home heating, gas andgroceries, but he decided to pause the
pain for just three percent of familiesin areas where he's plummeting in the polls
and his MPs are revolting the LiberalRural Affairs Minister. So that people on
the prairies wanted to break from thecarbon tax exemption, they should have allowed

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more at Liberal and Peace. Well, the people in Sudbury did elect a
Liberal. I visited there last weekand people there want to know why their
MP has been unable to get thema pause on the pain. So simple
question for the Prime Minister will heallow a free vote for the Member for
Sudbury on our motion to take thetax off and keep the heat on.

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The Honorable Minister, thank you,mister speaker. I think it's important for
Canadians that people are serious in termsof bringing forward policy prescriptions, not simply
taglines. We have put into placemeasures that will address a critical affordability issue.
Home heating oil is two to fourtimes as expensive as natural gas.
It went up seventy five percent duringtwenty twenty two. There is an opportunity

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to be able to reduce the energycosts for people on an ongoing basis,
all the while addressing the issue ofclimate change, something that the leader of
the opposition clearly does not believe in. It is something that is important for
Canada. It's important for the twoLETTERD in seventy thousand Ontario holmes that currently
heat with heating will excellent. TheHonorable Member from R John A. Kappel,

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are in complete carbon tax chaos overthere, mister speaker. Their pause
on the pain doesn't apply to ninetyseven percent of Canadians and it punishes those
who use cleaner Canadian natural gas andpropane to hate their homes. What did
the Liberal Rural Affairs Minister have tosay. She said, well, if
people in other areas want the pauseto they should elect liberals. Well,
the people in North Bay did electa liberal MP. So again to the

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Prime Minister. To the Prime Minister, mister Speaker, will he allow a
free vote so that the members fromNorth Bay can vote on our motion to
take the tax off and keep theheat on. The Honorable Member is a

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is a veteran member of this Houseand he knows that all questions that were
mind all members, that all questionsare directed through the chair, the Honorable
Partner too, Secretary. Thank youvery much, mister Speaker. And as
I said last week, it'd begreat if in this House we could have
debates about how we fight climate change, not whether we fight climate change,
because in twenty twenty three, it'sreally not an option. It's an existential
threat and we're living in a climateemergency, and Canadians know how important it

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is to fight climate change. Theyknow that on this point. The Conservatives
have absolutely no plan. When youdon't have a plan for the environment,
you don't have a plan for theeconomy, Mister Speaker, those Conservatives continue
to be risky and irresponsible, andthey're certainly not worth that risk, the
allable Member from Thornhill. Years ofthis Liberal NDP government, the Prime Minister's

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carbon tax is making it impossible forCanadians to heat their homes this winter.
That's especially true right here and soonto be frigid Ottawa. There are twelve
Liberal MPs here, a cabinet minister, three Privy counselors for parliamentary secretaries.
But according to the Minister from Newfoundland, all of these MPs weren't effective enough
to get their communities a pause onthe pain of the carbon tax. Will

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they make things right and stand withus today and acts the tacks, or
will they vote again with the PrimeMinister and leave Ottawa residence in the colt
the honorable Promitary Secretary, Thank you, mister speaker. And you know there
was a time when Canadian Progressive Conservativevoters could rely on members of that Conservative
caucus for leadership on fighting climate change. In fact, the member from Wellington

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Halton Hill staked his entire Conservative leadershipcampaign on it. What he said exactly
and I quote, is the rightway to do it is to price carbon
through a revenue neutral carbon tax.He staked to his entire Conservative leadership campaign
on that. Sadly he lost.But you know, mister Steaker, I
agree with him when he said wedon't have a plan to fight climate change

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or reduce emissions, then we won'twin the next election. That was true
in twenty nineteen, that was truein twenty twenty one, and it's true
today, the Honorable Member from Thornhill. The Prime Minister can pause a pain
for some Canadians, then surely hecan do it for all Canadians. These

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Liberal MPs should be demanding that,but they are missing in action, like
the MIA. Liberals from the GTA, like that member. Their communities want
relief from this costly coalition. Butthey've been hiding for a week. So
I'll give them the chance to showup now. Well, the Prime Minister
allow the members whose phone number startswith nine oh five a free vote to

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take the tax off so their communitiescan keep the heat on the Honorable Government
House Leader. Thank you, misterSpeaker. Mister Speaker, what my honorable
colleagues could continue to forget is thatthis policy does apply right across the country.

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So whether you are in the GTA, whether you are in Northern Ontario,
whether you are in Saskatchewan. That'sor in Manitoba or anywhere else in
this country. The price on pollutionhas been removed for those that use home
heating oil. Mister speaker, itwould be good if the Conservatives actually focused
on the facts and allowed us todebate climate change and how we're going to

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fight it, not if climate changeis real or not. Thank you,
mister speaker. The normal member fromCanora, the Prime Minister is planning to
criduple the tax on heat, gasand groceries, but we decided to pause
the pain for three percent of familiesand areas where he's plummeting in the polls

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and where his MP's are revolting theLiberal rule affairs. A minister has said
if others wanted the pause, thenthey should have voted liberal. But people
and Nickel Belt voted for a liberalMP, mister speaker, yet they are
not seeing a pause in this tax. So will the Prime Minister today allow
the member from Nickel Belt a freevote to vote with us to take the

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tax off and keep the heat onfor people in northern Ontario and right across
the country. Hu the Honorable Ministermaking mister speaker, and I am so
proud to be a Northern Liberal Memberof Parliament because what I do every day,
mister speaker, is I work withconstituous They're telling me we need to

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take faster action on the climate becausewe are losing acres of forest, mister
speaker, because we are seeing droughts, yes even in Northern Ontario, mister
speaker, making it harder to growfood, making it harder to grow our
economy. My constituents expect me toadvocate for clean environment, and that's exactly
what I'll do. Let to havethe honorable member from Monteville, mister speaker,

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let's talk about immigration targets. Allowme to cide a document starting in
twenty twenty six, set the annualimmigration target at some five hundred thousand immigrants
if the population reaches forty million asplanned. You might think that I'm quoted
the plan that the Liberals announced lastweek, but no, I'm quoting McKenzie's
Century initiative. The capping of targetsannounced for twenty twenty six has literally been

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McKenzie's plan all along. When isthe federal government going to adjust the targets
based on our integration capacity instead ofblindly following the advice of McKenzie, which
is a private company that literally managesimmigration in Canada, gonna have the Honorable
Immigration Minister. Mister Speaker, Ithink that's an odd comment. The Block

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is so out of left field.They're so far out in the field that
they should go out into the fieldsand see agriculture workers and see if they
need some help. Quebec needs temporaryforeign workers. We are working with Quebec
and the Block should understand that Ihave deputy at the Honorable Member for Montaville,

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Mister Speaker. Not only is Ottawafall allowing Mackenzie ottowise following them blindly.
McKenzie themselves confirmed that their immigration targetsdo not take integration capacity into account.
Former CEO Dominic Barton said in committeelast year the focus was solely on
the economy. We were not thinkingabout the social context. We were thinking

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about productivity. Mister Speaker, Cappingimmigration targets at five hundred thousand means applying
advice that does not take into accountour integration capacity. But the government last
week promised to respect our integration capacity. So will the government review its targets
the Honorable Minister, thank you,mister Speaker. I never talked to McKenzie.

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I talked to Canadians who want moreforeign workers. They want more immigrants
to come and work in factories andin the fields. Five hundred thousand is
a reasonable target. It's a targetthree years down the line, and it
has nothing to do with McKenzie's advice. The Honorable Member form more t mister
speaker, the only difference between Ottawaand mackenzie is that Ottawa's going faster.

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McKenzie predicted that the population would hitforty million by twenty twenty six. We
reach that mark in June. Accordingto Stats Canada. If the twenty twenty
two and twenty twenty three trend continues, the population will double in just twenty
five years. The population will exceedeighty million by twenty forty eight, regardless
of our integration capacity for housing,health, education, French language training,

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and the list goes on. MisterSpeaker, When will this government finally understand
that successful immigration means respecting our integrationcapacity, the Honorable Minister, Mister Speaker.
Over the past year, Canadians haveasked us to do more when it
comes to integration capacity. But whatpeople have also told me is that we

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need immigration to help our businesses grow. There is still a labor shortage.
The approach that we need to prioritizeis to be more strategic with our targets.
We tabled new strategic targets just recentlyand the block should be comforted by
that. If they like immigration,and if they don't, then let them
say so. From Paris, Muskoka, the Broad Minister plans to quadruple the

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carbon tax on heat, gas andgroceries. Now he decided to pause the
pain for three percent of families wherehis poll numbers were plummeting and his MPs
are revolting. The Liberal World AffairsMinister said if people in the Prairies wanted
a carbon tax break, they shouldelect Liberals. Well, the people in
Siue Saint Marie, mister Speaker didelect the Liberal MP, and yet the
majority of his constituents are not gettingthe break. Will the Prime Minister allow

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the MP from Sue Saint Marie tofreely vote to take the tax off and
keep the heat on for the peopleof the soup here the honorable Minister,
thank you, mister Speaker. TheConservative Party, as is often the case,
is leaving out many important facts eightout of ten Canadian families actually get

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more money back in the rebate thanthey pay in the price on pollution.
It is an important part of havinga robust plan to address climate change in
a thoughtful way. With respect tohome heating, it is a particular issue
that we can invest in to ensurethat we are actually saving money for people
as we move forward while continuing toaddress climate change. The Conservative Party is

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hiding. They are hiding from science, they are hiding from evidence. They
need to have a plan to byclimate change. Canadians expect more. The
Allble member from Storman Dundas South Glengarryabians, you're watching for today's vote on
our common sense Conservative motion to takethe tax off all forms of home heating
for all Canadians. The Liberal RuralAffairs Minister said though that if people want

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to pause on the tax, theyshould have elected more Liberals in their region.
But thunder Bay did elect two LiberalMPs and yet folks there aren't getting
any pause. Instead, the PrimeMinister plans to quadruple the tax on heat,
gas and groceries rather than treating themfairly. So the question is will
the Prime Minister allow these two Liberalsand peace from thunder Bay to vote freely

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to take the tax off so peoplecan keep the heat on. Thank you,
mister speaker. Again, the Conservativescontinue to spread information in this chamber.
This pause on the price on pollutionon home heating oil applies right across

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the country, despite what the Conservativeskeep saying. But what is particularly concerning,
and I think I speak on behalfof every Ontario member of Parliament and
many Ontario residences. Every time theysay common sense, it brings up the
terrible memories of the Mike Harris years, when not only did they slash public
services, but they slash them insuch incredible ways that led to things like

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Walkerton. Mister speaker, Ontarian's rememberand they're not going to lact common sense
Conservatives again, thank you mister Speer. Well remember from self, do this
storm undone this South Glengarry. Here'sjust how out of touch and tone deaf

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the Liberals are when asked to sheetsupport giving the same pause on home heating
back home, their own minister rightfrom thunder Bay said, quote, we
don't have the same challenges in northernOntario that we see in Atlantic Canada.
Unquote. Well, I visited thunderBay last week, and let me tell
you, mister Speaker, it getsvery cold there too, just like Atlantic
Canada. And after eight years ofthis NDP liberal government, the cost of

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living crisis the area is so badthe regional food bank can't keep up with
sergeerty demand. Now at twelve thousandpeople, will the Prime Minister let his
thunder Bay MPs vote to give residentsfair treatment, take the tax off,
they can keep the heat on.The honorable Deputy Prime Minister and Minister Finance,

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Mister Speaker, the Conservative provincial FinanceMinister of Ontario knows the pensions matter
for the people of Ontario. That'swhy he brought me a letter asking me
to convene a meeting of all theprovincial finance ministers to defend our pensions.
Will be Conservative MPs from Ontario beequally courageous and responsible in defending the pensions

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of the people of Ontario and supportour effort to keep the pensions of all
Canadians sake. I'm going to askall members please, especially a member from
Battle River, Battle Creek over Foot, to please listen to the responses which

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are offered and to take the floor. And I'd ask all members to listen
to that member when that member doestake the floor. The all the number
from London, Fanshaw Austenden. Canadians, in my writing, did everything possible
to work with Global Affairs Canada toget their loved ones out of Gaza.
They put all of their hopes onSunday's evacuation only to hear nothing from Canadian
officials. The bombardments are getting moreintense. My constituents, their families,

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Canadian citizens are trapped. They needthis government to stand for human rights and
to protect lives. The heads ofeighteen UN agencies and NGOs and my constituents
are calling for a ceasefire. Whycan't the Prime Minister, the Honorable Parlimentary
Secretary, Thank you speaker. Thesituation in Gaza is dire and many Canadians

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are worried about their loved ones.What is happening on the ground is fluid
and unpredictable, and we know theirdelays at the Rapha crossing for all countries.
I want to reassure Canadians that weare in regular contact with Egypt and
Israel to push for Canadians to leaveas soon as possible. We continually try
to reach all Canadians, permanent residentsand their immediate family members to convey the

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latest information. Mister Speaker. That'swhy we continue to call for humanitarian pauses,
for Canadians to get out, foraid to get in, and for
all hostages to be released. Thankyou, mister Speaker. The Honorable Member
for Windsor West, Mister Speaker.Eighteen United Nations agencies and international NGOs,

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including UNISE UP and Save the Childrencalled for an immediate seaspire in Israel Palestine,
expressing shock and horror at the mountingdeath poll from the conflict, saying
it's a graveyard for children. It'sbeen thirty days. Enough is enough.
The UN and the NGO heads saidin a rare joint statement, this must
stop now. When will this governmentfinally do what most of the world has

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called for, and that's an immediateseaspire to save the children right now?
The Honorable Parlimentary Secretary, thank you, mister Speaker. We unequivocally condemn the
Hamas terrorist attack. The price ofjustice cannot be the continued suffering of all
Palestinian civilians. What is unfolding inGaza is a human tragedy. The Minister

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of Foreign Affairs has been to theregion twice to oversee our efforts to help
Canadians, but also to de escalatethe situation. That's why we continue to
call for international humanitarian law to beupheld and for humanitarian pauses so that Canadians
can leave, humanitarian aid can getin, and all hostages are released.

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Canada is committed to a goal ofa just and lasting piece in the Middle
East. The able member from Yukon, Mister Speaker, We know that many
Canadian families are struggling to make endsmeet, and this is particularly the case
in the Yukon where more than halfa family spend over thirty percent of their
income on housing. The Minister ofNational Revenue recently made an important announcement alongside

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Miss Tracy Ann McPhee, Yukon Ministerof Health and Social Services. Can the
Minister of National Revenue inform the Houseof this announcement and how it will affect
our Yukon families the Minister, thankyou, Mister Speaker. I'm proud to
announce that Yukon families can now applyfor the Canada Child Benefit when registering for

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the birth of their newborn through theautomated Benefits Application Service of Yukon Vital Statistics
Office. It's the quickest and easiestway to apply for and receive the benefit.
It's more than five thousand and fivehundred dollars on average per year for
Yukon families. Thank you, theOnble Member for megontiklerable after eight years of

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this Liberal government, this prime Ministeris not worth the cost and they want
to stay in power for the nexttwo For the next two years, the
Liberal Block coalition vote against our motionto eliminate or pause the carbon tax on
all forms of heating. Yes,it costs, it's expensive to vote for

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the Block as well, it doesn'tDoes it not bother the Block to vote
the Liberals for the next two years. What promise did the Prime Minister make
for the unconditional support of the Block? The Honorable Minister, we seem to

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have found ourselves in a time machinehere. They wanted to make us step
back in terms of the rights ofwomen and take steps back in terms of
climate change and the fight against it. They're not even able to describe climate
change. They want to bring usback to the Stone age. The Honorable

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Member for me Antickla, we're goingwe're looking at a government from the Stone
Age. We are going to voteon a motion that will require the government
to pause all carbon tax on homeheating for all Canadians. The Block has
chosen its camp. They want toradically increase the carbon tax and it's imposed

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in favor of a twenty percent extratax to each leader of gas. It's
expensive to vote Block. What didthe Prime Minister promised its partner, the
Block to raise taxes on the backsof all Quebecers. The Honorable Minister,
mister Speaker, for a rare time, I agree with my colleague. We

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are going to have a government fromthe Stone Age. We're taking a step
back back on fundamental rights in termsof arms control, a step back in
terms of the fight against climate change. Hearly said this, we're going back
to the Stone Age. Mister Speaker, this is incredible. We'll never take

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a step back. The Honorable Memberfor Luis sin Laurent, Mister Speaker.
After eight years of this Liberal government, who would have believed it? The
Bloc is now behind the moral supportingthe Liberal government. Morally, they seem

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to be getting along quite well becausetheir position in terms of heating divided Canadians.
But that's exactly what the Block wantsto do. Divide and create problems.
The Bloc wants to radically increase carbontax. It will inspire them.
My question is that will members beable to vote for common sense the proster.

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I think all members would like colleaguesorder. I think all colleagues would
like to hear the answer from theHonorable the honorable minister. Mister speaker,
My colleague, that was the lastperson to speak at the National Assembly before
the adoption of the carbon market.It was adopted via unanimous consent. If

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he didn't like it, then whydidn't he raise his voice then and speak
against it? Why did he changehis position today because he didn't speak out
against unanimomy at the time. Whathas changed for my colleague over the past
few years. He wants to goback to the Stone Age and we won't
go there, mister speaker. Order, then, the Honorable Member for Luis

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in Laurent, Mister speaker. Anotherthing means that the Block is really buddy
buddy with the Liberal Party. Theparty Quebequa's budget, it talks about the
poor management of the Liberal government.Is now an argument in favor of independence.
No We're not going back to theTrudeau stone age, that's for sure.

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Will the blocks be blocks members beable to speak up and make sure
that all of their members will beable to vote for common sense. An
all order is that I had theHonorable Minister. Thank you, mister Speaker.

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We're seeing once again that every timea Conservative member rises there's something hiding.
They're not able to say the truth. They're not able to take responsibility
for what they did in the past. It's really rare when you have a
Quebec colleague, well, when theysupported the carbon market, they should have

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been proud of what happened in Quebecand proud to be able to protect the
environment across Canada. Then ahead,the Honorable Member for Rival Don mister Speaker.
More than two hundred and twenty onethousand SMEs or at risk of bankruptcy

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if the federal government does not deferrepayment of sea balloons without the loss of
the subsidy. We're not talking aboutbillionaire multinational companies. We're talking about small
businesses that contribute to the vitality ofour regions. Here in Rivere Do Noir,
two hundred and thirteen SMEs have alertedthe Quebec Federation of Independent Businesses that
bankruptcy is looming. Mister speaker,When will the Minister finally offer businesses the

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postponent they're asking for and avoid awave of bankruptcy bankruptcies on her conscience?
Minister, mister speaker, we've alreadygranted small businesses one additional year to refund

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part of the Sea Bologne. Whenthey ask for more assistance, we offer
greater flexibility in terms of refinancing andmore time and a one year prolongation of
the deadline for for the refund.Unlike the Conservatives, that will bring us

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back to the Stone age. Thankyou, mister speaker. Hello order the
honorable member for Tourrevie, Mister speaker, it's even worse than tourrivie. Two
hundred and eighty eight SMEs have saidthat they'll go bankrupt if the federal government
doesn't postpone repayment of seabloons for oneyear with no loss of the subsidies two

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hundred and eighty eight to business bankruptcies. Imagine the number of job losses that
this would represent. The Minister cannotcondone this by her inaction. Does she
know how many bankruptcies are likely tooccur in her region. Can she justify?
How can she justify to these entrepreneursthat she's going to turn their back
on them rather than offer them aone year postponement as they've requested that I

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have, the Honorable Deputy Prime Minister, Mister Speaker, we are proud of
having created a program that provided fortynine billion in support to our SMEs across
the country. And what's important todayis that small businesses have until December thirty

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first, twenty twenty six to refundtheir sea blown and full We are here
for our small businesses in Quebec andacross Canada at these essential times, the
Honorable Member for Shikutor, Mister Speaker. After eight years of this Liberal government,

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food banks are overflowing, groceries costmore, and now today the Block
is supporting the Liberals to maintain thecarbon tax on the back of Quebecers.
Mister Speaker, it costs expensive tovote for the Block. It's expensive.
Are the Liberals forming new coalition withthe Block to increase taxes on the backs

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of Quebecers. A law order order? The Honorable Permittany Secretary with you.

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Thank you, mister Speaker. UnfortunatelyI have to explain this once again.
There is no carbon price in Quebecattacks. Rather, Canadians are concerned by
climate change and we need a plan, mister Speaker. Those conservatives, mister

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Speaker, are not worth the risk, and that is why we created a
system. Thank you, mister speaker. The Honorable Member from Saint Albert Edmonton
is the speaker. After eight yearsof this MDP liberal government, Alberta got
shafted yet again. With liberal supportcollapsing in Atlanta, Canada, this desperate

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prime minister gave Atlantic Canadians a pauseon his putative carbon tax on home heating,
while Alberton's got nothing. Today,the liberal minister from Edmonton Center has
a choice. Will he support ourcommon sense conservative motion to axe a tax
on home eating or will he onceagain sell out his constituents to his boss,

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the Prime Minister, The honorable minister, Mister Speaker, I thank the
honorable member for his question, andhe knows well that we have billions of
dollars in budget twenty three for carboncapture use in storage. We have green

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and clean electricity regulations and money thatwill benefit Alberta. But mister Speaker,
that member doesn't want people to knowhe's one of the youth. He's one
of the CPC silent thirty who havenot come to the A of al Burtons.
He is not defending the Canada PensionPlan. He doesn't care that the
Conservative government of Alberta are scaring pensioners. He's silent. We're going to provide,

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We're going to protect pensions. That'sour job, but we're going to
do it every day. The AARMORmember from Calgary Forrest Lawn. She plans
on quadrooping the gas of the taxon gasco. She's in home heating.
He gave three percent of Canadians apause on the carbon tax for home heating,
whereas where his poll numbers were tankingand his MPs were revolting, the

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Liberal Rural Affairs Minister said, ifpeople on the prairies want to pause on
the tax, they should elect moreLiberals. Well, the MP of Calgary
Skyview is a Liberal, but hisconstituents don't get the pause. Well,
the Prime Minister let that member mailin a free vote on our clements.
Sends Conservative mission to take the taxoff and keep the heat on and shove
this carbon tax. Where the PrimeMinister's poll numbers are in the gutter.

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The Honorable Ministers Speaker, another silentConservative on the issue of pensions and Alberta.
What a shame to be a CaligaryConservative. But mister speaker, let's
talk about conservative priorities coming out ofAlberta. Instead of building housing, instead
of growing our economy, instead ofactually doing the work of Elberton's What does
the ucp AGM what are their priorities, mister speaker, turning back protections for

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LGBTQ, two people taking our provinceback. Mister Speaker, they're actually voted
in favor of conspiracy theories. Whenit comes to voting machines and fifteen minute
cities, they're out of touch andthey are reckless and not worth the cost.

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Ask all members to please listen totheir whips in terms of having more
order in this house so that wecould hear not only the questions but the
answers. Let it add the HonorableMember for Dorval Lachine LaSalle. Thank you,
mister Speaker. I am very proudof our national content creators, whether

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in Quebec or elsewhere in Canada.Last week Montrealers once again welcomed people from
all over the world to Cinemania,a festival that has enjoyed nearly three decades
of success and showcased some of themost incredible Francophone voices and creations that Canada

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has to share. Can the Ministertell us more about the important international agreement
that was signed last Friday, theHonorable Minister of Canadian Heritage, thank you,
mister speaker. My colleague is absolutelyright. Canada. Last week welcomed
for the first time in Canada,the President of Switzerland and my colleague,

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the Minister of Foreign Affairs, signeda co protectional co protection audio visual agreement
to increase the number of films andprojects with higher budgets. So it's an
excellent piece of news for our creatorsin Canada. This was international and international

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efforts. We're going to continue tosupport our audio visual producers because we know
how important they are in Canada.We're from Portage Liser, mister speaker.
The Prime Minister plans to quadruple thetax on heat, gas and groceries,
but now he's decided to pause thepain for just three percent of families in
areas where he's plummeting in the polls. The Liberal rules Affairs Minister, set

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of people in the juries want apause on the tax. They should have
elected more Liberals. But the peoplein Saint Boniface Saint Vittel did elect a
Liberal MP and yet his constituents aren'tgetting the pause. So the question is
will the Prime Minister allow the MPfor Saint Bonaface Save Hotel to freely vote
to take the tax off keep theheat on for his constituents. The Honorable

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Minister, Special, Mister Speaker,the Member is talking about a national program,
a national program that rids to getrid of polluting expensive home heating oil
and to transition those homes into freewith free heat pumps into those homes.
Mister Speaker, this national program isapplicable across Canada. It's applicable in Manitoba

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where are thousands of people who usehome heating oil. It's great for the
environment, it's great for affordability.I plan to support this. The Honorable
Member from Charles Wood, Saint JamesAsidaboya Headingley. The Prime Minister plans to
quadruple the tax on heat, gasand groceries, but then he decided to

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pause the pain for three percent offamilies and areas where he was plummeting in
the polls and his MPs were revolting. The Liberal Roal Affairs Minister actually said,
if people on the prairies wanted apause on the tax, they should
have elected more Liberals. But here'sthe thing. The people of Winnipeg Cell
Center did elect a Liberal MP,and yet his constituents are not getting the

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pause. Well, the Prime Ministerallowed that MP from Winnipeg Cell Center a
free vote to take the tax offand keep the heat on for people in
his commuter. Once again, I'dlike to encourage all members, colleagues,

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all members to please hold your commentsback to the time that you have the
floor to ask a question or togive an answer. That way we can
hear everything that's going on from allends of the House. The audible Minister,
thank you speak. Time for thatmember to stop spreading misinformation. This
is a national program, mister speaker. The national program that aims to transition

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expensive, environmentally damaging the home heatingoil into transition into free heating pumps.
Mister speaker, this is a nationalpolicy that's applicable across Canada. There are
thousands of homes in Manitoba who areeligible to the program. This is great
for the environment, this is greatfor affordability. The alible Member from Selkirk

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interlay Eastman as a speaker. Everyday the member from what I the North
gets up into this place and talksand talks and talks and says that finitely
not Allie cheering. Once for youonce again, before I return to colleagues,

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Jerry, before I return to theMember from Selkirk into like Eastman,
I'm going to ask all colleagues onceagain to please, when you have the
floor, use it. When youdon't have the four listen to the person
who dats the Honorable Member from twentyfive, Honorable member, excuse me,
excuse me, excuse me. Iknow the I know the Honorable Member is

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is anxious. I'd like to givethe Honorable Member the opportunity to start his
question from the top. Come out, mister speaker. Every day the Member
from the North Winnipeg gets up hereand all he does is talk, talk
and talk. Only the Liberals likeit because he says absolutely nothing. But

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according to the Liberalbural Affairs Minister,the Member from Winnipeg North failed the fast
stand up and fight for anotobins becauseof him. Mount Tobins have been left
out in the cold. They can'tafford the heat and eat. After eight
miserable years of this Prime Minister andhis Puniti carbon tax, Mounttobins at this
useless Liberal MPs are not worth thecost. Well, the Prime Minister allow

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the member for will I would haveliked to have heard the honorable members end
of question. Unfortunately the honable memberstime had expired and then some. This

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is the reason why it's important forboth sides of the House to please allow
the member to ask a question withouttake, without interrupting, so that we
can hear the question and the membercan profit from the full time that the
member would be entitled to. Isthe Honorable Parliamentary Secretary. Thank you,
mister Speaker. The member wants tohear more from you. I'm happy to

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go oh no. At the endof the day, I want to remind
members across the way something an issuewith the Conservative Party. Remember I obviously
said like a fish on a dock, sat slopping all over the place,
mister Speaker. That applies on thecarbon price too. I'll tell you what
the leader of the Conservative Party doesn'ttell canadianas he's going to take away the
rebate, mister Speaker, that's goingto take out of the park. It's

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eighty percent of the constituents of WinnipegNorth, the people I represent money out
of their pocket. Shame on theleader for the Official Opposition for being so
reckless and risky, mister Speaker.Jobs launch and investigation. The Director General

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called for an independent investigation of what'sgoing on. What we do as UNESCO
is that we have the mandates tomonitor the impunity or the end of impunity
in all the cases of killings ofjournalists. So we do a systematic monitoring
in all those cases. So wewill keep looking into what's happening and keep

(01:02:42):
publishing our permanent data CO Custodian Agentson STG sixteen ten one that is also
about killings of journalists. What's happeningthere and unfortunately on many other cases of
killings of journalists in the world andin Gaza. Does the targeting of journalists

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if it's proved that they were targetedby one of the parties to the conflict
rise to the level of a warcrime, Well, it will depend again
of the investigations taken under the Lawof Engagement. In terms of humanitarian law,
etc. Again, you can lookinto previous conflicts the way that the

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independent tribunals took into consideration those cases, but it's very difficult to comment on
a hypothetical situation. Will need tolook into the data when any specific and
independent investigation takes place, John Murray, Thank you, Van Murray. Arty
news isn't a problem for journalists aroundthe world. The fact that authoritarianism is

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on the rise and within the UNsystem, the number of countries who simply
don't believe in press freedom is increasing. And what is your answer to that,
Well, that's precisely why we needto reinforce the accountability systems in all

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these cases. So these guidance weare launching today is also related to this.
Are our data is showing, unfortunatelyand increasing number of legislation being enacted
everywhere trying to solve legitimate problems suchas the spread of the information, et
cetera. But this legislation, asyou just mentioned, many of these legislations,

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as you just mentioned, they arehaving a contrary effect to reduce press
freedom, to reduce freedom of expression. But we do think that it's possible
to establish a governance system that isfully aligned with international human rights standards.
But for that we need to offerthe concrete guidance so that the different watchdogs
include huge journalists, specific society organizations, the academic, the think thanks,

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they can monitor what's going on andthe issue concrete guidance. In some cases
also there is the willingness of severalof parliaments to produce good legislation, good
regulation in these areas. But whatwe need is to offer the concrete guidance
to do that in alignment with internationalhuman rights law. Thank you, Errol

(01:05:21):
Lewis or Lewis from Innuasian News Service. You spoke both of controlling disinformation but
also freedom of expression. In recentyears we've seen like for example, the
case of Twitter or x as it'sknown and the Facebook, where you had
the government employees trying to control whatwas considered to be disinformation but was not

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necessarily so, as was proven later. So where do you draw the line
between controlling disinformation or having a governancesystem for that and censorship. So that's
why we are saying in this newguidance that a struggling courage invites you to

(01:06:08):
read that we are launching today,that it is not about regulating specific pieces
of content. When you do that, the risks for crossing the line of
freedom of expression, they are toohigh. Any decisions regarding any specific piece
of content. If this post orthis tweet or whatever, is this information

(01:06:28):
or is hate speech, et cetera, this should be taken by a judge
following a due process of law.However, there are concrete ways of increasing
the governance of the system to actuallyexpand the freedom of expression access to information
with better processes that can then leadto the diminish or prevention of this information

(01:06:50):
and hate speech or other phenomenons.So, for instance, when we are
asking this governance system first to haveindependent regulators, those that are not eitherctured
by the political power or by theregulated sector, we are underlining that.
When we are saying what the thingsthat government shouldn't do, we are also
underlining the important safeguards to protect freedomof expression. And when we are asking

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very concrete things for the companies liketo be very transparent in different ways,
including the way they moderate and curatecontent, or when we are asking them
to produce human rights risk assessments insituations like the ones we are just discussed
in conflict or a pandemic, orhow they deal with the information on climate
change. Any of these is relatedto a decision of if this particular piece

(01:07:39):
of content is or is not theinformation. These are broader processes that can
actually prevent they spread of these informationor other problems such as hate speech or
conspiracy theories. Just a housekeeping question, you mentioned about a pool that was
taken of countries that are going tothe polls next year. Could we please

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tell me if the report has beenpublished or wheye can access it. Sure.
The entire deck of the survey,carried out by IPSUES under commissioned by
UNESCO is in the UNESCO website wasjust launched here in Paris one year ago.
You can have access to the fullresults of the survey as well as

(01:08:23):
the new guidance we are issuing todayabout the governance of the digital platforms.
Thank you very much. Any otherquestions. The show has been produced by

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