01-15-25 DITM The Hounds of Violence

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Speaker 2 (00:46):
In Springfield.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats, eat the cat.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
The cat. They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
They're eating the cats, eat the cat. Eat They're eating
the cats. They're eating the dogs, eat the cat, eat
the cat, the cat eat the cat.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Seeing rant, So don't push me. Ain't Donald Trump trying
to grab them by the send it with some Haitians
somewhere out in Springfield? Women doing cartwheels.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
How do you seen my field?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Eat?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Go carry?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Have you seen snowball? This about the snowball? I'm about
to go off. I can't let this go on, miss
me like an airball. Tell me what my cat is
called it up like a hairball, eat the carry. I
gotta tell them if they even put the fingernail and.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Just wow, how about that some magnificence. This is Thursday Night.
This is your early introduction to the weekend, and that
means this is disasters in the making. I'm Brad Schlager,
writer on a number of cultural issues for a number
of outlets, and We're about to take you down the
dark alleyways and dumpster dive in Hollywood with some subpar

(01:52):
film entertainment. But I'm not doing it alone. Joining me
always on these fortnight forays the dark side of Hollywood.
From ScreenRant dot com is Paul Young? What is going on? Paul?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Are you doing this fine evening, mister Bradley.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
So first show of the year, and as we like
to do if you're new to the program, what we
try to do is tie in a title for our program,
a throwback, let's say, of some poor cinema and tied
into something happening in theaters, happening in the news, something
pertinent on a weekly basis, but coming up in theaters.

(02:31):
Pretty big release on the horizon, the latest attempt at
remaking Wolfman. Have you caught any trailers or seen a
sneak preview of this.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Paul, Yeah, I've seen it, and I don't like what
I've seen. And apparently the critics of WATSHA don't like
what they've seen either, which is not unsurprising because it
sounds like they skewed pretty young with it, and it's
an old film. They're remaking the nineteen forty one film Wolfman.

(03:01):
I don't know. I don't know how you do better
than that. They've tried a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I mean a lot of times when we see a
Wolfman offering come down the pike, it's generally they try
to rework it and come up with a new spin
on it. I mean, we've seen Jack Nicholson try it out.
We've seen Benicio del Toro in the titular role. But
the only time they've really done something recently that was

(03:30):
really significant was American Werewolf in London? Was that?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah? That then that wins several awards for like special effects.
I mean, it's good Barker did a lot of these
special effects for that thing, I think.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
And yeah, they had some some groundbreaking practical effects in
that one and really pushed the envelope and you know,
revolutionize a lot of practical special effects back in the day.
It was also a very well written script. It was
kind of an ironic spin on things a little bit.
You know, they weren't overly serious, but it was fun,

(04:07):
paid homage. It did a whole lot of things, right.
I haven't seen a lot of that since, however.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
No, and I think it's because they don't know how
to handle the property. I mean, they made five Initially,
there were five movies starring the original Wolfman you know,
from the classic Universal Monster, along with you know, the
Creature from a Black Lagoon and Frankenstein and you know,
I still to this day my favorite is still the

(04:35):
Abbot and Costello series of movies where they meet the
different monsters from that era. I'll sit down and watch
those at any time I want to. But after that
it's just got weird, right, and it didn't work as much.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
So yeah, and there's you know, you can't besides America Werewolf.
You can't really point to one and say, yeah, that's
a classic, right there. You got to see it. It's
always been like, sorry, it sucks, you know. And then
we also have the teen Wolves in there, didn't Stephen
King try it one time with silver Bullet, I think.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, and that's just more of a werewolf stereo type
than it is the werewolf character. Right. Yeah, this is
supposedly supposed I haven't seen it. I plan on trying
to see it at some point, but it's supposedly an
actual reboot of the nineteen forty one film from you
know with Lawn Cheney Junior. It's they're going after the

(05:32):
actual character as opposed to the more of the mythos
that the character brings.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, and if you're looking at a classic, why that's
the thing is they did it right the first time,
and you're not gonna do better really, because it's already
lodged in everybody's memory. It's already held to that esteem,
at least as far as the monster movies go. And

(06:00):
what was that five years or so ago they were
Universal was actually going to start a brand new franchise
rebooting all of their monsters in the Vault, starting with
Tom Cruise and the Mummy and ending with Tom Cruise
and the Mummy.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah, the Dark franchise, you know, and they brought in
they introduced Doctor Jackyll and mister Hyde.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
And you know, they had high plans to modernize all
of them and create modern franchise and then the uh, well,
the Tom Cruise movie sucks so bad they said, yeah,
you know what, We're not going.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
To do that because they changed, They changed their whole
idea of what they wanted that series to look like.
And sometimes the best stories that are told are the
ones that are told simply. You know, the original Wolfman
films are told simply that Jackuiela Frankenstein are all told
simply so you can enjoy the story itself for what
it is, is it unfolds, and instead they just try

(06:56):
to modernize it and make it to blockbustery from un understand.
Nosferatu is supposed to be pretty good. I haven't gone
out to see it yet. It came out this past Christmas.
I kind of want to see where that goes. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I've heard a lot of positive word on that one,
like it's getting raves as far as filmmaking goes, very artistic,
very boundary, pushing things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I don't know if anybody can beat Nicholas Cage.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's nice, frau, but you know, and why would you try?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
And I just once he does it, just shut it down.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, we bring all of this up, revisiting all of
the past. What would we call this lunar canine ventures
as they were liking thropes and such. We'll just go
with the canine deal. That's what we attached to. So
in what we do, Paul and I have a very
scientific method of determining what movie we're going to do

(07:50):
by saying, holy crap, what'd you think of? So we
went with the dog theme and we settled on one.
I gotta give you credit. This one's a gem. I
love this one. And it's Man's best friend.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Heck, yeah, this is one. This is and I've talked
about these movies before. H this is a Trent film.
This is one of the movies that I watched my
buddy Trent at midnight at the AMC Movie Theater in
Range Park on a Friday night, where we would just
show up and watch any movie on a Friday night
would have opened that weekend, and this is one of
the ones that we watched. I remember remember very clearly

(08:28):
going to see this movie with him.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I talked to him.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
About it this week.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I have to interject, this is when I have to
jump in now, because you say you have very fresh
memories of this, and then as you're watching the film,
you're texting me a bunch of questions, Holy crap, what's
going on here? What was this? Who's this guy?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Look?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm gonna say I understood.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
I watched it from the different eyes back then. I
was nineteen or no. See came out in November of
two thousand or nineteen ninety three, so I would have
been Yeah, I wasn't nineteen or just before I turned
I turned nineteen on the twenty first, so it was
just before my birthday that I saw this movie. So
I don't recall. That was thirty years ago, Brad, I

(09:10):
don't know if I recall why they did everything. I
watched things through different eyes back then. I used to.
At one point, my foolish nineteen to twenty year old
self thought that John Claude van Dam would have made
the best Marvel superhero before they were even Marvel superhero films.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
No, No, I didn't I get that. You know, a
like decades down the road and Stuch, things will change.
But when you're texting me the question, holy crap, is
Seth Rogan actually in this film?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah? Now, look, look, that's what I texted you do
that that. I was like, what is going on here?
It's the Dog Catcher? And I was like, is that
Seth Rogen? Is he in this movie? I didn't notice
this back then. Then I googled Seth Rogan's age and
he's like eleven. I'm like, well that's not Seth Rogen.
Who is this joker playing this Dog Catcher that looks
like Seth Rogen? Yeah, so I tell that doesn't look

(10:01):
like him.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I can see it. I can. I would even say
maybe related. I would if you told me that was
blood on camera right there, I'd say, sure, sure, let's
go with it. So here's here's where we have to do.
Now we're going to basically open a cage and let
this dog hunt Man's best friend. What we're talking about

(10:26):
here is I'm trying to come up with the most genteel, straightforward,
lucid way of just basically it's a genetically modified Tibetan mastiff.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah. The weird party is that all the posters make
it look like he's a cyborg robot dog, just until
I thought he was a side I even told you
it's about a cyborg dog that goes around killing things
and swallowing cat's hole, hence the end.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You told me this, and then I was supremely disappointed
to find out no, so I hold you responsible for that.
But yeah, I tweeted out our promo for the show,
and I use it might be a Russian poster. It's Danish.
I can't really tell. But they make the dog. Yeah,
half his face appears to be cyborg in nature, So

(11:17):
I'm sure there was at least a couple people back
at the box office demanding their rubles, saying there was
no robot dog, ain't this film. But that's not to
say there wasn't fun to be had. So I will
just say, strap yourself in, leash it up, don't let

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them off the chain. Yet, we got a ways to
go here, So we open up in a cold, sterile laboratory.
You just know something to farious is going on with
the slow tracking camera through the hallways of this partially lit.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Edifice, Like why is everything so dark inside of these
settings and movies all the time, Like like, I know
the lady's there by herself, but she's got to feed
all the animals she should do, and so in the dark.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Well that's calls uh calls to mind one of the
things I always love in these films. They show you
the building and it's supposed to look like a sprawling campus,
almost multi floored, and all kinds of gleaming walls and
floors and everything else, and yet these businesses are rarely
ever populated, Like there should have been five hundred people

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employed at this joint.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
And they've got millions worth of animals here and they're
all doing like highly unethical research and there's like one
security guard yes, part.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Time apparently too. Yeah. So the film we're starling with
Alie Sheety she the brat Pack, of course, and Lance Hendrickson,
stalwart name in action films. I will forever love the
man because he was in stone cold.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
The bike wasn't still cold, rightning we've talked about that movie.
You said it all comes around. We have like seven
degrees of Lance Harrickson around here.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
We always could. Yet he was, like I say, back
in the eighties, he was always good for these subpar
films that would get you know, not a wide release
but not limited either, right in the middle, like about
a thousand screen release movies, those kind of things. And
then his career really well just kept going when video
came into play, and so he's in a lot of

(13:40):
direct to video titles, a lot of low budget releases,
things of this nature. But the guy's got a great career.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, I would say his most popular thing was
Bishop from Aliens.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Sure, absolutely, he just never really hit that high watermark
for the next thirty or forty years. But hey, you
got that on your resume, nothing wrong with that, go
with it. I like Hendrickson. Every time he's in something,
you just gotta watch him. He's uh, you know, he
holds your attention without really chewing the scenery. He's just

(14:14):
he's got that camera charisma while not being a very
good looking guy.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
No, yeah he's I mean, but yeah, he's he's not
what you he's not what you consider to be the
Brad Pitt.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
No, he's not not movie star handsome by any stretch.
He's very good at playing the heavy or military guys.
You know, he pulls those off pretty naturally. So when
it comes to just you know, we need a guy
with gravitas. See what Lantern is him up to? And
you're gonna watch the character. Yeah, this guy's uh, this

(14:51):
guy's solid. I've always enjoyed his stuff. So Alie Sheety,
we come to learn is a reporter for a television
station with lung cancer. Oh I missed that. Did they
actually announce that?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
No, but she smokes enough cigarettes in this movie to
be to gate lung cancer during the filming.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, I'm uh, I was more focused on to the animals.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
So, yeah, the nineties where if you were just smoked
because they were bored.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
The only thing better is when you watch mad Men
and they smoke everywhere everywhere. It was almost like, what
do you mean you're not smoking? I'm not coming back
until you light up. But this is yeah, this is
the nineties, this is the standard fair. And there's a
young girl working in said laboratory who phones in to

(15:42):
Ali Sheedy and apparently you get the feel there's gonna
be some kind of whistleblowing going on here. I think
she's gonna blow the lit off this place, Paul, She's
gonna let it out.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
She's doing it in secret when there's nobody else there.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, she also calls from the phone inside the lab,
so it's probably not the wisest move the.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Call is coming from inside the building, but it is
the nineties. Is nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, we don't have as much high tech tracking. Like
for instance, later on we'll see where they sneak into
the lab and they get into the lab because the
doors were open.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, they did have they did have warnings on that
to said restricted access, and then node locks. They were
just like pushed doors.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
They ignored them. You know, it's just basically that drop handled,
door handled, and these were painted red, so that should
tell you not to go in there yet. And then
they went in there.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Oh my god, I don't even know what they were thinking.
That should work. I mean, that should work, but it
is nineteen ninety three, Sandra Bullocks. The net hadn't come
out till nineteen ninety five, so nobody really knew how
to track people on the internet yet.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah. So right now, when you go into work and
you have to bend your self over so the biometric
reading of your eye can give you access, Blame Alley
Sheety because she broke.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'm not gonna lie. When you said bend over for
it to read your eye, I thought brown eye, and
I didn't understand where you were going, And now I
understand what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Uh, yeah, you gotta that's the kind of thing you
gotta say for your therapist, Paul, don't maybe maybe not
broadcast at him, just gonna.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Reading the brown eyes is gonna be a name of
my comedy album.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
No I was. I was talking about retinal scans here,
not buffalo shots, thank you very much. So this young
girl got to be in her twenties, right, and she's
got the lab coat and glasses. She's kind of nerdy.
She looks like she belongs there. While she's spilling the beans,
she hangs up and then looks around and there's a
very large cage open. And then you know, we've seen

(17:51):
monkeys and rabbits, and there's a bear. Later there's a
jaguar nod to Jacksonville and a few other wild animals.
This cage is open and bears. She creeps up slowly
and there's a i'd say, a very large looking harness.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
It's weird. It looks like it has two giant cell
phones from the nineties patched to the other side of it.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's got some digital stuff on it. It lights up.
There's stickers and indicators and such. Something's loose, and then
something that we don't see it's off camera, hits her,
knocks her into the cage starts attacking her. We see
blood on the floor, We see a bloody pump go
thrown against the wall, and then a mysterious arm comes

(18:40):
out of the darkness and shoots to Tranquilizer Dart Intrigue, Paul,
we are now slammed headfirst into this film. So as
as we then learned the calm lifestyle of Alley sheety.
She tries calling her friend, her contact the whistleblower, keeps

(19:01):
getting no answer and basically herd her cameraman. I'm sorry camera. Yeah,
this movie was woke for ninety three. They decided naturally,
well she didn't answer her phone, we'll have to break
into the laboratory.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
And breaking it. Let's just let's be honest here. Breaking
into the laboratory includes her parked outside of the guard
gate of the laboratory that is unmanned and has one
arm that it's just one single arm. There's no fence,
it's just an arm, and they just walk around it
carrying what appears to be a large piece of carry

(19:42):
on luggage and had a television camera recording camera that
is the size of said luggage. And I don't even
understand how that girl was able to carry it around
because it was so big.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, her camera person has to weigh about a buck
ten and this equipment I'm assuming that was like the
battery pack and such. And then she's got a shoulder
mount camera that was half her size. She hadn't have
been toting about one hundred and twenty in gear. And
at one point Ali sheet he's got the bag and
she's like, oh, wait, you're the camera man. You put
it on. I was like, oh, you got to carry
a pen. How noble of you, miss journalists. So yeah,

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the way they break in is they see a couple
guys loading stuff into the back of a waste disposal
company truck. We can just probably put one and two
together and come up with a fraction that they're probably
offloading the body that's they've discovered in the lab. But
these guys are yucking up and yammering away and they

(20:42):
just follow the ratchet jaws into the building. That's how
they break in. These guys are oblivious to two women
toting gear following them into the building.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
And that's the implication, right, is that they've got this
waste disposal and you know, hazardous waist or buyer waste
and that's the implication, is that the young woman that
was killed in the beginning of the movie, that's her
body in there. And then when they open it up,
you're expecting to see them find the young woman's body,
but they don't. They just find a bunch of biological

(21:12):
waste and then go inside like it's oh, it's gross,
and like, well that would have ended the film, right,
like right then, Hey, we found a body in this waist,
we call the cops.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, it's kind of our usual thing here where we
have to fill in blanks. So we're just gonna make
this assumption. So they follow him into the lab, creep
around the place undetected. They get into one chamber that's
just filled with cages, different animals in different forms of
physical distress.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Did you see the monkey from uh Indiana Jones and
the Temple of June. It was good to see him
getting work.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
He had a good agent back then. Guy was really
cranking them out in those days. Yeah, they had, you know,
like rabbits with sores under and cats that had problems
with them, and a monkey with an exposed brain because
of course, and they're filming, you know, get this cage,
get that one here's this one. Then they go upstairs

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and get a wide shot of the entire complex, and
then they find a big cage with a big dog
in it with the electric apparatus around his neck. Now
I'm gonna lab I'm seeing altered animals and such, and
the last thing I would do is maybe creep up
to a cage and start making, you know, googly noises

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and trying to pet them.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
It's so weird that that's the animal she decided to
let out, Like, don't go with a friendly bunny. I mean,
unless you thought it was the bunny from Holy you know,
mighty Python. Why not go with the friendly bunny to
let something out and take home with you, or the
friendly kitty cat. I understand why you went a tiger.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
There's a in the size of a sandwich you could have,
you know that rolled up to that little thing and
said yeah, nice, No, no, let's go with the Tibetan
mastiff that weighs one hundred and forty pounds, drooling with
electrodes all over its body and.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Probably has blood all over the cage.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I mean, this is a This is a cuddly little thing,
isn't he.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
But she's all.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Google Google do do do? And opens the cage what
the hell and then starts petting it, snuking up to
him and puts her arm around him. Take our picture,
do it? You know this? This is like a ninety
three selfie? Isn't he adorable? Now? Filing a security guard.

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Lance Hendrickson shows up with a couple of cages. Got
some new monkeys to work on here, hands them off
to a security guarden. Here go put him in the
cavern and as he's there, he sees the light discovers
the camera crew. They have to beat cheeks out of there.
Lance Hendrickson is all mad. Somebody broke into his lab

(24:05):
and security is so tight in to here. The girls
get out with absolutely no pressure whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Because it's just that one dude and like one one
guy pushing like the janitor dude.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
So during the park a lot run into the car
and the dog now is out of the kige and loosen.
He's like, well, nuts to this, I'm done with this
place and breaks out through an air vent, starts chasing
the girls down and hops in the car without their permission.
And she's like, oh my gosh. She's like, just get
in now we've seen the dog already kill a very

(24:37):
sweet looking young woman. He's totally cool with these two though,
He's like, just kick it up of my judge loved you.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Because I guess I guess she petted him like that's
that was his reason for not, you know, murder biting her.
Was was petting him, but the other girl was just
feeding him. It's not like she was eating him up.
But maybe maybe he was like a had like something
that he didn't like the white lab coats. Maybe he
associated that this dog is like super the dog as

(25:14):
smart as it needs to be for the moments that
it needs to be.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
But we learned all that later.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Here again we're putting things together like they haven't actually
shown that it was the dog that killed her. We're
making assumptions, however, given that he's wearing the same hardness
as the one that was in the cage that she discovered, Okay,
I think it's cut and dry. He's a killer damn dog.
And now he's in the back of their LTD and
everything's cool. So Ali Sheety takes him home and is

(25:46):
just nothing but snuggle buddies with this dog right so much,
and he's cool and the dog hates her boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
He comes with a hell, she's a helicopter owner.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
What's going on? I can't stand in his arm Like
she's in the bathroom of the dog and he'd barking
up the storm. The boyfriend has never seen the dog, okay,
and she comes out and he's like, what the what
do you do? That's one hundred and forty pound dog
that almost killed me. He's like, no, it's not You
don't know that. You just heard him Mark, There's no
way that you're grasping how big this dog is. Now
he sounds big. I'll give you that, but come on.

(26:23):
So the dog at this point loves Ali. Sheety hates
the guy. It's been established we have something of a
love triangle taking place now.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
And that's the way this movie gets super weird is
that they've give the dog some sort of alpha male
personality where he both I don't know, he could be
studied by Freud. He like, he's got a some sort
of mom complex, right, was it? H What do they
call that? A us oedi us edibus complex where he

(26:58):
wants to he wants to with his mother and wants
nobody else to be with his mother. But then at
the same time, he's okay going out and humping some
random collie down the street. But this.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Also presents something of a plot hole here because we
learned later on from Lence Hendrickson that the dog is
genetically modified, but he keeps it under control with regular
doses of some sort of serum that'll calm him down
and make him manageable. Okay, then if that were the case,
why did he kill the girl in the lab? Why

(27:32):
is he trying to kill the boyfriend? Why is he
an angry son of a bitch over here but loves
Ali Sheety. You know, it makes no sense as far
as that goes. And I'm sorry I said son of
a bitch, But biologically that's accurate. That is correct. Yes,
So Ali Sheety has this monstrous looking dog and she

(27:54):
thinks it's a swell idea to have the neighborhood kid
who weighs about sixty pounds to go walk the dog
in the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
He's wearing roller blades and just comes into this comes
into her house. Now, she doesn't have kids, she lives
with her boyfriend, and she lets the neighborhood kid just
come in and he just he has fridge privileges. He's
just eating old pizza. At one point, he's making a milkshake,
like he's just wandered around. He's in his on his
roller blades. His dad's across the street or down the

(28:25):
street or something with a kid.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
He lives doors away, but he just like doesn't even
knock on the door. He just comes walking in. He's like, oh,
you doing alis, I want some food? The carrot sticks
in here's like, screwedd at, there's pizza. I'm taking the pizza.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
And she's always he always makes statements that make you
think he's living in some sort of battered home, right
Like he says, oh, you're so lucky, or I'm used
to having dal old pizza because of my dad. And
you're just like, well, are you going to show me
his home and it's going to be like a trailer
with cigarette butts everywhere and a toilet for a planter

(28:59):
in the front yard. No, it's a nice little house
with a literal white picket fence in front of it,
you know, and a Collie dog in the front yard.
I'm just like, I.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Mean, yeah, he's got a large collige as his own dog. Pad.
He pretends like he's never seen a dog before, and
I just love him so much, and he was so cool.
This is awesome. Oh my god, you got a dog,
and I so do I. But he goes to walk
her dog, not his, and he walks by his house.
And the dog's name is Max, by the way.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, and which is weird because the name of the
genetic company is Emacs, which they can either sell you
a home or they can sell you male fertility pills.
It's one of those two. I would not have put
genetics research into EMACS that I would have done either

(29:53):
one or the other two.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, oh yeah, I guess maybe they can they do
both and you can get you know, servants, quarters dysfunction
pills or something like that. I don't know, pool adjacent.
But Max is the dog. We know this because they
say his name about seven thousand times in this film.

(30:15):
We get it.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's a terrible name for a dog.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
By the way, the young kid goes down the street
and get by the way, he's an abused kid. They're
trying to sell us. He's got brand new top of
the line roller blades and a brand new helmet. He's
dressed to the nines. The kids put together I don't
know what he's complaining about. Goes over to his house
with Max and the colleigues out in the yard and

(30:39):
Max falls in love wants to tear down the fence.
You know. The whole time, we just have this foreboding
promise of violence in front of.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Us, and not to mention, the dad comes out. Now
he's with us, buddy memories with this little weird buddy
on the bike and just riding down the street like
the people used to let their kids do back in
the nineties, unsupervised. Let you nine year old just right around.
And the dad comes out, and I'm not gonna lie.
I'm on the dad's side. I understand what he's doing.

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That dog is barking. I just got done working night shift.
I'd like to go to sleep. Take that done dog
that isn't yours somewhere else down the road so I
can go back to sleep. Dad's clearly in his pajamas.
He's just bringing his dog in, trying to do his
thing work, you know, earn a living, and then making
him out to be like some sort of bad guy.
But they never even provide any proof of evidence of
such of such terrible deeds going on in that home.

(31:30):
I thought they were going to set it up so
that the dog protected the kid from the dad, and
they didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
No, they didn't. It was a disappointment. I will say this, though,
you could maybe suggest the father has a little bit
of negligence about him. After all, this is the first
time he's seen his kid with a one hundred and
forty pound to bet and mastiff. I'd maybe have questions
about my kid's safety at this point in time. The dog,
what are you doing with it? How is this thing

(31:57):
not dragging you face first down the pavement? You know,
concern would come over me, but that's my paternal instinct
coming to light here. I'm just saying, the dog weighs
twice as much as the kid. He's on rollerblades. This
isn't gonna end Well, yeah, he's a rollerblades. It's safe.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
It can't be drugged on the street when you're on wheels.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Put the dog back and go skate on a hill.
That's much safer. Something like that. Well, the two kids
are now walking the dog after he falls in love,
and they bring the dog back inside. Max. Uh, let's
just say it. Max has been affected. He's got a
little bit of the bug. He's a he's gonna he's

(32:35):
ticking a shining to the college. We'll just say that.
But as they walk down further in the street, the
kids start going him, Hey, there's a cat.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That's Missus Thompson's cat or something. I hate that cat.
It always tries to scratch me. You have no dullt
a little piece of crap. He probably over there poking
it with a stick.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah. Uh, maybe leave the wild cat alone, That's all
I'm saying. So Max sees the cat, a switch goes
off his head. Boom, cat beats cheeks out of their
Max beats after him. The kids are like, well, this
is not going well.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
And he's like, go get a Max, look at the cat.
You kill that cat, Max.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
And so the cat makes it up a tree, and
I gotta say they they actually filmed this scene pretty well.
This came out well. So Max, now he's trying to
jump on the tree. He's on the trunk and then
they do a close up and you see his claws
come out, and then Max starts climbing the tree. Now,

(33:39):
of course they film this with the dog crawling horizontally
on a log, but tilt the camera and what do
you know, the dog's climbing a tree. It looked pretty good.
And then he gets the cat like cornered.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's the same technology they used in the Batman Show
back in the sixties.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yes, camera to forty five and have them crouch. I'm
climbing a wall, That's what I'm doing. So Max makes
it to the cat and damn if this. There wasn't
enough blood, but this looked pretty good and realistic. He

(34:16):
gets a hold of the cat and we watched him
swallow the cat hole.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
He need the cats, although he need the dogs. Now
I know how they did that.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I was just gonna say, there wasn't a lot on
the making of this film. I did a fair amount
of research on it, and it just ain't out there.
Nobody cared about this film, so it's tough. But they
actually made a life sized puppet head. It was hollowed out.
They had the cat crawl through the head out of
the mouth of that, and then they pulled it back inside. Meanwhile,

(34:51):
somebody's operating the jaws opened and closed, so yeah, and
uh well, goodbye Tabby.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
And then they played it backwards because he was crawl
out of the head and they played a backers to
make it look like he was being into the body.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, so Max just ate a cat. Damn and the
kids are, you know, doing the most natural thing possible.
This was your idea, No, it was your idea. You
thought of it, damn it all right, And then they
just beat out of there, gone.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
And they tell nobody he doesn't like return the dog,
and go uh, he ate a cat. I gotta go by, like,
I don't even think they returned the dog.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
No, no, there's a killer, murderous Tibetan mastiff on the loose.
But as we've come to learn, or we're told, Max
is actually brilliant and he finds his way home without
a problem. He's back in the good graces of Ally
Sheeting loves her to death, which I got to tell

(35:55):
you right now, this should have been called Woman's Best Friend. Yeah. Yeah,
he hates every guy in this movie, and man dies
in this film from the dog, So maybe maybe the
title is ironic. I'll go with that. But now we
start to get a window into the mind of Max,

(36:18):
because the next day she lets the young kid walk
dog again. Why the kid wanted to is a mystery,
but they're walking it up, and there's a couple guys
outside working on the truck in the street putting in
new break lines, and you know, the dog pauses, checks
him out and the mechanics underneath, and he's like, oh, hey,

(36:39):
what's up, little guy, what do you want to help me?
Just to what do you have me that break line?
And then Max grabs the break line and hands it
to him.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, so we're I guess we're supposed to believe that
this dog is smart enough to both know what a
break line is and what a break line does. And
he's never seen a break line because he's been stuck
in a cage in a.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Now, Paul, they explained it to us pretty clearly. This
dog has learned up to three hundred and fifty commands.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
As one of them as break line.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I'm pretty sure at some point in time he was
trained in the nuances of hydraulics. Yes, and by the way,
player lines in the street, Well, this is San Pedro.
It's what you do.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, I don't, San Remo. That's why the police officer
it's a smaller city, that's why the police officers are
still driving those Ford LTDs from the eighties. The brown
nondescript ones that could just easily be like, you know,
Duke's a hazard crash.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, pretty much. You just slap a magnet sign on it,
and it's official police car. Wait a second nical examiner's car.
Wait a second pizza delivery car. All right, we did.
I did short change one thing though. After eating the cat,
Max went back to the kid's house and had his
way with the colleague to the yeah, to the point

(38:22):
that he slips into the house into the bedroom. The
colleague hides under the pillows and then brings her head
out and says, oh, And then we watched Max go
backs up and swats the door with his ass to
shut it private.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, there's dog rape in this movie, Like your mind,
bitch man. I understand if there was, Like this is
a movie about a killer duck, and they wanted to
put in duck rape because that's the thing in the
in the real world. But like they got treat this
dog rape scene like as if it's legitimate, like like

(38:58):
we're gonna like it as an audio. So I'm like,
this is weird.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
There was a lot of a lot of full on
camera shots of Max's face in this scene, and at
one point, I could pretty much see his thoughts as like, oh,
don't pretend you don't want it, literally was what he conveyed.
So we're back at the house. The boyfriend again is like, oh,
that dog doesn't like me. Max goes outside at one

(39:25):
point and we have this scene where he just stares
intently at the boyfriend's truck. He's literally plotting something like.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
He's trying to figure it out, he's putting it all together.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
You know what I could do to get even with
this bastard, h I.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Don't like him. Well, he doesn't like him because he
was in there. They were having sex at one point, remember,
and he's watching him through the keyhole, which apparently you
can do. You can look through the keyhole of a
of a house, store and as a dog and see
what's happened on the inside.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Well, yeah, I mean, if the house was built in
the nineteen ten, you had to SkELL it and key
to get into every door in a house. Sure, But later,
now this kind of was stupid. The boyfriend. We see
him later driving down the street and there's a car
behind him honking furiously and he, you know, keeps waving.

(40:23):
Just go around, Just go around. Then, the car pulls
up next to him, and there's a German shepherd that
just starts barking for no reason, and the car doesn't
go around, it stays right there.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well, okay, so that part's explained, I think because at
some point Hendrickson's character says that Max is smarter than
a German shepherd, and I think the German shepherd is
trying to warn the guy that, hey, I think he
messed with your brake line. You need to stop your
car and take him to check it out. I think

(40:55):
that's what it's happening. If you turn the subtitles on,
you can see that the dog is and that it's
a hidden Jim.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Okay, Okay, I might want to say, you're reading a
lot into this, paulmod.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
The German shepherd is the hero of this movie, unsung hero.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
So after being distracted by the dog, he turns his
attention forward and almost plows into a work crew. He
can't stop. His breaks are out. Thankfully he's got the
handbreak yanks on. It just avoids disaster. Then we go
to a mechanic shop to find out what the problem
is here. It is your break line is got teeth

(41:38):
boks all over it.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
There that's got teeth barks on your brake lide.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
The part I enjoyed, though, is the car's up on
a lift. Now, when a mechanic is looking at things
while eating a burrito, he's handling the greasy brake line
with the same hand holding the burrito. He's just break
floid like it's hot sauce or something. He's basically rubbing

(42:07):
it around the wheel. Well, it's like I heard the
problem right here, figured it out. I could taste the problem.
It's your break line, So that that got thwarted. We
later see Max. Now I'm completely baffled and confused by
this aspect of things, as as Max is kind of

(42:30):
tormenting the neighborhood. I guess looking around ominously. He takes
a leak on a fire hydrant and he pisses acid.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
It's just okay, look, we need to pause for a
moment because I don't understand this point. This is why
people think it's a cyborg dog, because he's got acid.
P like that. There's not an animal. But later later
the doctor's like, yeah, I've bred him with genetically modify

(43:00):
him to be to be like what a chameleon and
pisss acid.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I want to say, wasps maybe something that wouldn't that,
Like a murder wasp has acid in histing or something
That's about all I can come up with. Andrickson said,
He's like, we have all these animals and the camera
will then be zoomed in on one animal each time.
Is we have a certain trait for each one of them.
Then we took that treat out of its genetic profile

(43:31):
and spliced it into the dog, including chameleons. Yes, later
in the film, this dog camouflages I don't mean against
like a gray background, and he turns gray. He turns
invisible in a completely packed garage.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
All right, I'm gonna have to uh, I'm gonna have
to apologize because apparently there are some fishes and reptiles
and birds that can have gastric secretions of hydrochloric acid
when they feel threatened.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
So see, this isn't so outlandish after all.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Thanks for proving it's completely serve me wrong. Thanks for
proving me wrong there, Google, So this movie is absolutely believable.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Now we have a Tibetan mastiff that pisses acid.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Well, and I'm gonna send you a picture right now,
and it's a picture of a bunch of ants on
a log and they're all shooting acid and not in
the way that you would not in the ways you
would think from the seventies.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I would No, Yes, I do recall ants doing this.
We did, I forgot. We did have one scene to
where they were buying groceries for the dog early on
and at night they got mugged. The dog opens the
car door, chases the mugger down the sh street and
returns with her purse because she's a girl and he

(45:04):
loves girls. Woman's best friend. As I said later on
a discovery in an alley of a dead mugger. And
now the two cops I love. These two cops are like,
I want to say, maybe the most realistic people in

(45:25):
this film, because uh like Lanceandrickson has gone to them
now is like if somebody stole my dog, you gotta
get something. And they're about as cynical as can be. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure,
we're gonna you know, we're all about your dog. That's
that's what we're gonna do it. We're gonna we're gonna
go rescue him right away. We got nothing else to

(45:47):
do here.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Yeah, Robert Costanzo has been around for a while. I
mean he's a recognizable character.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
You see him like.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
He was like in Diehard Too and total Recall City Slickers.
I mean he was. He's been in a bunch of stuff.
You recognize him almost immediately. The other fella, John Cassini,
I don't recognize him at all, but he is dressed
in such a nineties fashion with that suit and the
tie the whole time, and the little tiny's not at
the top of it, and the the oversized elbow paths.

(46:20):
If we broke fro screams nineties. The way he dresses, well.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I mean, like his Stanzo. This guy's been in like
close to three hundred things. He's got three hundred screen credits.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I mean he's in everything. I'm pretty sure I've seen
him in you know, when the girls were watching Charmed
or something. He always pops up in one episode and
he's just that brusque New York guy. You know what
you gotta do. You got to back the hell off
on me right now, because I'm doing my job, you'll see,
so shut up your mouth. I'm doing so. You know,
he's just that guy. Everything he does, he's that exact

(46:59):
same guy. Yep, I remember seeing him. Man Back in
the seventies, major League baseball, they used to have like
a promo and you know they're they're highlighting all the
current stars, and then these two guys are watching baseball
like one hundred and fifty years in the future. He's like,
you know, back in the day, who was a good

(47:19):
ball player? I'm telling you that Haink every guy. He
could hit a home run. He didn't need no zero
freaking gravity. He could hit it out of the park.
Now you know what I'm talking about. And a guy
stealing the bases, he didn't have no jetpack on him.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
No, this is just what they were doing. It was.
They were just roofed. He's like eighty years these baseball
players today full of crap back in the day.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Since you did bring up baseball, can we just give
a quick moment of silence for the late the passing
of the late Bob Buker. Oh yes, I mean he
was mister Belvedere was major league. I mean obviously he'd
pay base off too.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Meldon was the one thing I just never understood, what's
he doing in this because it wasn't really him in it.
I mean, he wasn't doing his thing. He was just
straight man.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Really ninety one. That's a law. I mean, you know,
rest in peace there, Bob.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
But I mean he was a great baseball announcer. He
was great in Major League playing a baseball announcer. But
even funnier, he was great in the Miller Light commercials.
The best thing about being a former major leaguer called
the front office boom free tickets. Almost be in the
front row, and the next thing he's like, in the
last row in the stadium. You missed a tag.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
He was great. That dude was so funny he is.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I mean, it's if you just want to have some
good laughs, just go on YouTube and just you crew stories.
They're all over the place. He gives speeches and stuff
and it's hilarious. So we've you know, we got the
cops that are half assing it through it and they
get they see the mugger dead. Well, of course what

(49:03):
you're gonna do is bring in the guy from the laboratory.
And Lence Hendrickson comes up and he's like, I told you, guys,
this is it. Max did this. This is Max's doing.
Uh uh, you just implicated yourself and a death you
are now responsible for. You've just said that I have

(49:25):
a killer dog on the loose. That means anytime this
dog kills, you're on the hook. So I don't know
what you're doing. But he's apparently this is gonna compel
the police to take action. If I don't get him
his serum, he's just gonna kill more. Well guess what,

(49:45):
he kills some more.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
He's killing some more.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Gott a you got a mad dog. Well you gotta
have a mailman seeing, don't you. Oh my gosh, the boy?

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Do we get one?

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Now? I don't you know. I don't generally focus on
male men in movies, but I do got to say
that we just might have the cockiest mailman I've ever
seen on film.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Well, if you don't focus on the male men, what
kind of men do you focus on the female men?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Well?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Hold on, I could get my drum there you put them.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
So we see this guy delivered a mail. The dog
comes up behind him, creeping up slowly and looks at him,
and he's like, hey, how you doing dogging? And then
all of a sudden, the mailman just turns into a
complete ass. Oh not like you know, good dog, good dog,
Let me get by. No, He's like, oh, what are
you gonna stare at me like that? I got something

(50:40):
right here on my hip, Pippy spray, Get out of
my way, ye piece of crap, And he just like
starts belly gagging at the dog for no reason. The
dog growls, sprays him down, and the dog shakes it off,
and he's like, that's all you got, and that pretty
much is gonna be it for the male man. So
they start doing slow motion chase. He goes over a fence,

(51:02):
the dog gets his ankle, crashes down, the dog jumps
the fence and right on the neck. Damn. Sorry, folks,
your Amazon deliveries are probably gonna be late this week.
Mailman's a goner. And then later we see just how

(51:23):
cagy and clever Max is. He drags him under the
house and starts burying the guy.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Mailing all and nobody notices. Nobody notices for days, this
mailman has been missing for days, and nobody says a word.
He's under the house of rotting to the point where
they find bugs crawling in and around his open eyes
and mouth.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
And taking a lot of time to bury him in
his shallow grave, and I think he even established an alibi,
probably went back to the college's house, like, hey, listen,
I was here nailing you. If anybody asks, I was
here in bed with jewel. Okay, that's it.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Anybody asks.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
So m we're back in the lab now, and there's
a new girl going through the cages and she thinks
it's very swell. She's smiling and cooing in all the
animals with open wounds and distressing their lives. Now, I
didn't see this in the early Did they telegraph this
in an early scene or not? But she bends down
and she finds a VHS tape underneath one of the cages.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Yeah, so when they were trying to away, somehow they're
carrying all their VHS tapes to record on, which is
weird because they record on beta, you know, they don't
run around with a you know, like a what do
you call it, a regular VHS tape. They use a
different type of tape inside of those cameras. And as

(52:49):
she's running, one of them just falls out and it's
as if she threw it like a frisbee and it
just hits the ground and spins in a circle and
then lands on the ground underneath the cage, and the
girl just goes, eh, I'll leave my evidence behind with
my name on it and what film studio or we
work for.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Well, that's there's another comedian plot hole, because this thing
is already labeled with Ali Sheeti's name on it and
dates and stuff like that. No, that's that's supposed to
be a blank case. And then after you film it
as when you label it, you know, for this episode,
this story something like that, but it's already pre labeled.
You brought pre recorded tapes with you. You're begging to

(53:28):
get caught, That's what I'm saying. So the new assistant
finds this hands itch to Hendrickson. Hendrickson is like, well,
now I got something to go on. I know who
has my dog. He goes to the station and gets
nowhere basically throw him out, and he realizes he's got

(53:51):
to get to this woman's house. The dog is now
on the loose, and we get our dog catchers.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Seth Rogen.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
It's kind of I guess they're the right guys for
the job. These two clearly hate dogs. They're just antagonistic
to them. This little they they're catching this little purse
dog and they're mocking him. They're like, oh, come on,
you don't make me get the taser, because I'll do
it a high five. I'm gonna beat up a dog

(54:23):
that weeds ten pounds.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
And it's so weird because there's parts of this movie
that it's clearly trying to be a some sort of
action thriller horror film, but there's parts of this movie
that feel very disney Esque, just like in the caricatures
of the you know, the people playing them, from the
police officers to the security guard to these dog catchers,

(54:46):
like everybody's over the top kind of Disney five. In fact,
there's a whole chase scene in this movie where there
it might as well have just been playing Yak and
the Sacks while they were doing it. Everybody's like bumbling
around the cop for shooting everything, and the dogs have
bin dogs just running around and the dog catchers are
all like it does not feel like it's a like

(55:10):
a slapstick comedy at some point, like they're trying to
make it that way.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah, I'm only guessing, but I think they were trying
to maybe levin a little bit of the tension in
horror with comedy at times. It's not like over the
top slapstick. It's just like goofy. Your characters are a little,
you know, a little over the edge as far as
their personality goes. It's like, oh, there's the dog, now,

(55:37):
let's go get him. It's just so weird it does.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
It didn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
So what do you what? Okay, yeah, go get him.
I guess knock yourself out. So they're so we get
this chase scene between the cops. There's like four cop cars. Jason, Max,
and Max will only stay on the road apparently because
at one point he gets on the radio and he's like,
go around the other side and we'll box them in.

(56:07):
Because dogs don't run through yards and jump fences and
stuff like that. No, they stick right on the roadway.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yeah, apparently max Is was the original Crypto, the super dog. Well,
I mean, let's go through everything they've done at this
point with Max, Right, we know he can break out
of a steel cage. We know he can piss acid,
which still doesn't make any sense. I'm sorry, I don't
get it's just dumb. He's got the superhuman dog strength,

(56:37):
he's got high intelligence, the ability to camouflage himself, and
we know he could run it at least fifty five
miles an hour, because at some point they make they
make an attempt to say they specifically go camera on
the the speedometer, it's at fifty five miles an hour
and he's staying ahead of the head of the car. Yeah,

(56:58):
he's a super dog.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
And I have to assume he's also been programmed with Garman.
That's why he sticks to the road.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
With carbon that should have been his name.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Oh there you go, So I will give the cops
some credit. They did manage to box him in. However,
Max has superpowers. He also has a green screen. But
Max jumps through the air over the cop cars green

(57:29):
screen ated and lands on the other side and escapes
while they all nose into each other and it's like, oh,
foiled again by that dog worm, shaking my fist. Then
he gets away, but as he's running by, the dog
catcher see him chase him into a garage, and then

(57:50):
he disappears in front of their eyes with his magical camouflage.
And then he appears in front of them but doesn't
quite kill them, and they make it back to the
truck and they just beat cheeks out of town. At
that point, we're done and Max goes back home. Now
the cops are at this point fed up. We're gonna

(58:11):
get that dog. We're gonna shoot him no matter what.
At the house, Max finally confronts the boyfriend and has
his way with him. So the boyfriend runs into a closet.
Max busts through the door with one leap, attacks him,
drags him out, pisses acid on his face, and basically

(58:38):
renders the guy. And I did just say that sentence,
and it's because it actually occurred.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
See. So here's the thing. They went from making a
thriller horror action film to some sort of weird Disney
film to a movie starring r Kelly. I don't understand
what's happening here on how they decided to go with
this thing.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
He's the diddy dog, the diddy dog. Then the the
cops do show up and uh, you know, my favorite
detective then gets an Ali Sheety's face. He's like, let
me tell you something. We're gonna get this freaking cycle mud.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Yeah, because she tells him she's packing. He's got a
she's got a brand new puppy and she's packing to
go who knows where was she going. She's going to
the hospital to be with her piston husband boyfriend. And
the cops like, where do you think you're going? If
you leave this house goes, I'll tell you one day.
If you leave this house, I'm gonna rest you. And

(59:39):
if if you don't leave this house, then you can
stay here and help us, and then we're gonna catch
a teco. But and I'm like, how are those your options? Well,
why would you not just go ahead and arrest her?
You know, she stole the dog. She clearly stole the dog.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Yeah, but she gotta help him get that freagainst cycle.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
What well she got so, oh you know what, we
completely passed over Mmm. Her her trying to get rid
of the dog to the junkyard.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Oh yead, that was stupid. It made no sense. So
she's she's got her friend who owns a junkyard but
also supposedly a fifteen acre ranch somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Well, he's I think he's just saying that too, Yeah,
to get this junk yard dog. But who was the
guy playing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
The I've seen, Oh, he's been a lot of stuff.
He was in Blade Runner, but he was he was
Larry of Larry Daryl and Daryl Fame from the New
Heart Show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Is that William Sanderson, Yeah it is William Sanderson.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yeah, how you doing. I'm Larry, just my brother Daryl
is my other brother Daryl Daryl, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
He just beats the dog in the back of the
head with a rubber shovel. You can see that the
shovel is rubber.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
She's like, the cops are gonna come, They're gonna confiscate
him back to the lab. I'm doing this for his
own good. She has this tearful goodbye, and the whole
time you're looking at it, when Christopher, You're like, no,
this guy's a piece of crap, don't do it. He
is obviously hates this dog. He's like, oh no, he's
definitely gonna run all over the acreage and have all
kinds of fun. There's a creek he can swim in,

(01:01:21):
and like, no, no, I'm not thinking my dog. You're
not babysitting my kids. Get away from me. So literally,
as soon as she turns the corner, he chains him up.
The dog starts barking, and he grabs a snowshovel cracks
him on the skull, and then later the dog, recovers,
breaks his chain, kills Sanderson. He's back on the road.

(01:01:43):
He's now covered in blood from Sanderson when he gets
back to their house, and that's when he takes care
of the boyfriend. Acid piss and all this movie, I
swear it is too fun. So we're we okay. So
now we got the freaking detective. He's uh. He goes

(01:02:03):
he's crawling through the yard and he sees a post
office baseball hat on the ground. Being a detective, he
naturally thinks, you know what, I gotta go climb onto
his freaking house, and so he does. Finds the male
scattered around, finds the bag, finds the pile cockroaches all

(01:02:24):
over the dead body, and then Max is like, hey,
that's mine. Kills a detective.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Okay, you play and have them and here's okay. So
the earlier in this scene, it's a daytime. The kid
comes in and he says, I'm making I'm gonna make
myself a milkshake and proceeds to just do what he
wants to in this woman's house. And he's getting out
the milk, and he's getting out the ice cream, and

(01:02:52):
he's pouring it a blender and that's why they can't
hear that her boyfriend's out there getting peed on by
an acid dog. And then the cops come and the
chase scene happens, and then they come back and they're like,
we're gonna stay here all night and wait for that
freaking pooch to come back. That's what they're gonna do.
So the cops are running around that like he's a
serial killer getting ready to return, so instead of being

(01:03:13):
all like they are just sending people home. And then
and then in that same scene, no one cleaned up
the kitchen so that that that cop is standing there
and starts to drink the milkshake that's been sitting out
on the counter for hours. Now, you know, the milk
has started to go bad and it's it's mixed with

(01:03:34):
melted ice cream, and this dude just picks it up
because he's eating a bag of lathes and he's like,
myself fatter, and just like drink it down. And then
he walked out. He hears something in the woods. He
walked outside to investigate, but doesn't call anybody else to say, hey,
I heard something. I'm gonna be out looking around. Somebody

(01:03:54):
come over here and watch my back. No, I'm just
gonna crawl under this this house by myself and look
for something strange. He he deserved to die.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Yeah, I think he broke protocol a couple different ways
for sure, But yeah, maybe the milkshake would have killed him.
Sounds good than me. By day. I'm gonna drink this
freaking thing and that you can do by it. So
he's dead. And then we find later his partner in
the car falls out with his face all chewed up.
I'm assuming he got pissed on as well with the
acid dog sure looks like. And then Lance Hendrickson pops

(01:04:32):
up on the scene because of course he was there,
grabs Ali sheety and the puppy forces her into the car.
Let's go, We're gonna go get the dog. We're going
to save the dog, I guess by going back to
the lab and getting the serum that will calm the
dog down. Okay, they're driving. The dog's now chasing them,

(01:04:59):
unbeknown to them initially. Then he jumps on the car,
jumps on the roof a while the cars still moving
by the way, never dawns on lence Henderson to maybe
slam on the brakes and send him fly in, turn
a corner and send them fly in you know, anything
of the sort. No, I'll just keep driving straight so
the dog can get on the hood, stick his head
through the windshield, and grab the gun that he was
going to use to kill him, of course, all of

(01:05:24):
which then proceeds to lead them to the building where
they he's no longer able to operate the gas and
brake pedal, and the car just plows right into the
front of the building.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
I mean like slant and does like that whole mid
eighties dukes of hazard car flip where you're just oh,
I hit a wooden guard scheck that clearly needs to
flip me upside down, and I'll land inside of another
building again, no guard.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
This was the nineteen nineties. Every car chase has to
end with the car hitting a ramp and spinning in
the air upside down. That was a cinematic rule of
the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
The other one, too, is if ever a car goes
off the road and lands in the water, you're absolutely
required to film that in slow motion.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Yeah, car.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Never hits his water in full speed, you always have
to do it slow mo. They so they've made it
to the laboratory. I'm sorry, the dog's dead. The dog
had his head in the windshield as the car was razing,
flipping and crashing into the building.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
There's this dog is dead. They the junkyard guy blowed
torched him to the face, and he survived. The dog
is a survivor, brad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
He was genetically bred to survive car accidents. I suppose
tell me which animal that came from?

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Rhinoceros?

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Oh, good one. Okay, he's got a stronger head that
can with stand impact.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Now that I've been thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Also, we did a little bit of moose too, with
the antler kind of thing, so the head of the
mountain rams there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
He's got got the fur of a snapping turtle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
But somehow Hendrickson, Ali, Sheety, the puppy all survived this
crash into the building. So I guess we have to
have a climax. They're all bloodied up and hurt, and
they're knocking through the joint. The dog's trinking them down
in there, and then.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
You've got before you get to the final scene, you
have got to address the name of the puppy and
how he got his name, because it is important to
what you're about to talk about. All right, So it
all right. The puppy she's named. She wants to name

(01:08:03):
the puppy Barney, and he says, no, no, no, I
don't want to name the puppy Barney. I've been calling
him Spike. And she's like, why Spike. He goes because
he likes to play with these, and he picks up
the core a plug, an electrical plug, and he sticks
in front of the dog starts snapping at the little
electrical plug and she's like, no, that's a dumb name.
And then later as they're walking around the kitchen, the

(01:08:24):
camera pans down and the dog unplugs the blender. He
pulls on the plug from the wall and unplugged from
the blender. Remember that for what you're about to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yes, this this was like their Chekhov's gun moment.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
I mean they set themselves up. I'll give him that.
They set this part of it up, and they follow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Through with it, playing with an electrical plug that's going
to be used later in the film. Jesus is so stupid.
So there they're doing the alien thing where they're creeping
around quarters and cages and stuff, and the dog's chasing
and coming after him and doing this and doing that,
and Hendrickson finally gets to the part of the lab

(01:09:07):
he needed to get to with the serum, as the
dog is now protecting Ali Shedy and barking at him
and growling and snarling. Where was the tranquilizer gun?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
It was, Well, it was originally on the dash of
the car, so I don't know if it just got no.
I think he went and got a different gun because
he had a shotgun near the end.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Mm hmm, Yeah, he came in with a shotgun. But
when he gets the serum, why didn't he have the
trunk gun for it like he did when the girl
died at the very beginning of the film. He had
to have a fewity scattered around the lab.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
I don't know. He did shoot that one security guard
at the news station of the chest with one, and
no one ever talked about that again.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Which including us.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Well it was yeah, because I forgot And now I
remember thinking seeing that scene, thinking why did he take
the security guard's gun and then toss it underneath the
car and then just nonchalantly walk into the building when
nobody seemed to care that he could just walk into
the building whenever he wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Yeah, it's there's just a lot of that in this film.
Things that you're supposed to do that doesn't make any
damn sense, So just do it. So Hendrickson's in with
with the serum. The dog gets the drop on him.
That goes astray. So at one point, now he shoots

(01:10:35):
the the dog leaps. He's got the rifle. Now shotgun
hits the dog in midair. He flies backwards through glass
and lands on top of one of the cages. Max
is basically rendered.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
That's his Hans Kruber moment.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
And this is when we see Spike. It's a little
Jack Russell puppy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Go ahead and say what he does. Go ahead and
say it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
And Spike, now, after cowering and pissing on himself under
the cages all this time, comes out and heroically finds
a plug, gets it in his mouth and plugs it
into a socket and this electrifies the cage that Lence
Hendrickson just landed on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I think this might be the same Jack Russell from
Fraser Moose Moose.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
And this is now our bittersweet into the film. Max
has perished, Lance Hendrickson has perished, and Ali Sheety has Spike.

(01:11:55):
Well not all that though. We're not finished though. There's
a little bit of a coda to this film. Uh
for once Sally Sheety goes over to the boy's house.
He's very excited, Come in, come in, you gotta see it.
And I swear at this point I was like, oh
my god, don't even do this. Don't go their movie,

(01:12:15):
do not do And the movie went there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
So we get inside the house here a little bit
of muling taking place, and sure enough, Max's dog rape
has led to a litter of puppies, all adorable, queat
little colleges except for one very puffy mastiff puppy, and

(01:12:43):
it starts growling. We have a sequel. Come in, Paul,
we have a sequel.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Well, they haven't announced it yet. I think they're waiting
on everybody that was involved in this movie that passed on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yes, I think they were waiting for the thirty year
mark before they start entertaining a sequel to this. But
fingers fingers crossed. No, no, there's there's not gonna be
any damn sequel to Phil.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
But there have been there have been a lot of
murderous dog movies.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Well, sure, I mean this is right along the lines
of Kujo, right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Yeah, Kujo is right up there. I mean, look, if
we were just to try to pit Kujo against Max,
I think Max wins because he should. He is an
acid p right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Well there you got that weapon.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
He's got weapons. Yeah, so it means like even a
barrel full of whiskey. I mean, that's all he's got
around his neck.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Even if Kujo gets to drop on him, he'll get
him on his back. That's when you employ the acid
b defense and the game just changes right there. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
There was a movie in nineteen seventy eight. I'm not
sure if you're familiar with this one called Dracula's Dog.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
I'm not familiar with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
No, no, you never seen Draculus Dog.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I've gotta admit I've missed this one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Oh you're gonna have to look that up and watch it.
I mean, we're never gonna watch it for here, because
it's just I can't do too murderous dog films. But
Dracula's Dog nineteen seventy eight, Stan Winston did the practical effects.
It's a practical effects dog that is a vampire that

(01:14:29):
protects that protects him. Then there's another one. I highly
recommend that you get a chance to watch it. It's
called Satan's Dog. I think it is, of course, I
think it's called Satan's Dog, Play Dead, Playdag. It was

(01:14:52):
called play Dog or Satan's Dog. And then there's another
one with a pack of dogs in nineteen seventy seven
called dogs just straight up dogs. Now, look, the seventies
was wrought with animal killer animal movies, and at some
point we can we can discuss those at a topic,
but the seventies was ripe for it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
You know, Bees, Spider, Kingdom, Kingdom of the Gods. We
got to do that one at some point. Yeah, yeah,
Margille Gordoner and a thirty foot tall chicken. That's all
I gotta say right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
There, Well that's all you need to say.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
But yeah, this this one, I'll say this. I this
thing is so damn ridiculous top to bottom. You gotta
watch it. I enjoyed it, and good news it's on
YouTube for free. Just gonna endure some commercials, and believe me,
you could use a brake every so often with this one.
It's like, holy cow, I need another beer.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Yes, posit and move on.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
It's gonna be That phrase will be uttered throughout this
but there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
There you haven't and then watch Old Yeller because that
has a better ending.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Does it is? It's so uplifting. I mean, yeah, you'll
be a change person for the better after that one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
That's right, Man's best friend and a little boy. What
more could you want? You know? And then maybe follow
it up with a little red fur where the red
fern grows if you'd really like to, you know, keep
the good feels removing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
We're gonna have to work on your knew Year's resolutions.
You went in the wrong direction on these, so there. Yeah,
and I would say, yeah, definitely, definitely check this one out.
It's fun, it is, it's well made. I'd say, at
least for it zero it's not you know, production values

(01:16:39):
are decent. The dogs are kind of cool too, you know,
big Tibetan masted but it looks cool. And just watching
them swallow a Catalan I think was worth it. Oh yeah,
that did it for me. I'll recommend this one all right, Paul.
Why don't you, uh let everybody know what Kennelly can

(01:17:00):
go to the play around.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
With you, So find me on the zitr At movie Paul,
you know, might as well get on TikTok while you can.
It may not be here tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
No, the world will be dashed of your toilet videos.
I hope, I hope you have those saved to a
hard drive somewhere just for posterity. As for myself, if
you can see me on a daily basis over at
town hall dot com with my media column there called
Rift from the Headlines, also on the front page of

(01:17:33):
Red State on the regular where I also have my
twice weekly podcast called Liable Sources, diving even deeper into
the muck and meyer the mainstream press. And you can
hear more of me on this k l RN network.
Next Thursday, I'll be here with Orty Packard. He and
I will always guide you through the important and vital
information from the entertainment atmosphere on the Culture Shift, and

(01:17:57):
every Tuesday, I am here at eight and a half
the ever Afforvest and Aggie Reekin for the Cocktail Lounge,
your respite from the news, where we go over anything
that's fun, relaxing, from sports, art, science, whatever kind of
whackingness we find, we'll discuss it over the coasters. And
then if you need more of me than at let's
face that you do. You can find me on Jitter

(01:18:18):
I am at Martini Shark. All right, Paul, it's a
new year, so we got some new selections in front
of us. We're gonna have to populate our schedule accordingly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
We are. We got one more show in the month
of January. Normally don't do three shows in a month.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
No, no, but I I think I have an.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Idea in mind.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
We'll see, we'll kick it around a little bit, we'll
come up with a little bit of a I think
I've got an appropriate one that you and I will
both savor and enjoy for our audience.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Oh okay, I'm ready to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Cool then, all right, gang, We will be back then
in two weeks with more moving mayhem from Hollywood here
Disasters in the Making.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Of Fence.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
And Touch, the Sound.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Of Science

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
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