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of setting the table before we fully dive into prospect
evaluation full tilt. What's up roun, I see you there
in the chat. How you doing? Before we fully dive
into position group analysis prospect evaluation here on the show,
A little bit of housekeeping. What I have for you,
folks the next several weeks is positions of need for

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the Buffalo Bills, and I will be diving into day
one possibilities, Day two possibilities, Day three possibilities, and I'll
be doing so with a guest, a different guest each week,
diving into different position groups, getting their thoughts, what they
like from the position group, their evaluations, skill sets, traits,

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fits for the bills again on each day, all of
that going forward. So that will start next week leading
us up into the draft. So I'm excited for the
next several weeks, really full steam ahead, getting into anything
and everything for these positions and needs, the prospects, all
that stuff for the draft and before we get to
that again. I wanted to just have this last episode

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to kind of finish setting the table for the Bills.
What we did on last week's episode kind of looked
at the Bills roster from a twenty twenty five perspective,
but also from a future perspective, and then took a
look at positions of need based off of that to
kind of see, what does this roster look like right now,
what does it look like in the future, What do
they need now, what do they need for the future.

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We looked at players from a quality perspective currently on
the roster and from a contract perspective, and then tie
that into some prospects that could potentially fit the Bills
roster needs on day one and two. In this episode,
some more prospect discussion, but more from the conversation and
discussion aspect of the archetypes that the Bills have at

(03:44):
these positions of need. I think a lot of this conversation,
and we do this every year, and I'm not even
just saying within the Bills community, but I think, you know,
fans at large or teams at large, so much of
the conversation of man I want this guy, or man
I want that guy. I think a lot of it
tends to get lost within the scope of what does

(04:06):
the team tend to gravitate towards. And I'm even guilty
of this, And then I usually try to label these
discussions at these points, especially on social So much for
me is like, man, I want them to take this guy,
and I always try to put the little like asterisk
or the caveat of they probably won't because he doesn't
fit because X, Y and Z. But I'd like them
to take this guy because I think he could help

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them do this, or help them tweak this or evolve
in this way, so on and so forth and so
so much of the conversation when it comes to draft
time isn't just you know a player that you like
or the individual valuation. It's do they fit the scheme?
Do they fit the archetype for that position group? If
you know, I'm just just to give a random example,
like if the you know you really like this corner

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because this team you know, this example I'm when you
use is going to feel specific, but it wasn't. I
swear you know this corner is really good at man coverage,
you know, And do you do you want that corner
because you want them to play more man coverage, But
does that team really play man coverage? Are they good
at do they play more zone? Is it vice versa?
You want, you know, this smaller, shifty, route running type

(05:09):
of receiver. Is that the type of offense do they
they run? Do they need bigger bodies? Do they need
guys that can block? Do they need guys that can
work in condensed sets? Do you need someone inside outside
someone and so forth? And so I wanted to dive
into this episode again looking at several positions of need,
continue continuing the conversation we had last week and focusing
on my biggest areas of need for the Buffalo Bills
here and just taking a look at the cover or

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having a conversation I should say, centered around taking a
look into this roster, what the Bills have done traditionally
at these positions, and then tying that into prospects that
could potentially fit that mold, using them as an example.
I'm not gonna be diving too much into prospects in
this episode again, that's going to come in the next
several weeks and a bit like we did last week
in last week's episode, But if you do have any questions, thoughts, comments,

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concerns on any prospects throughout the episode tonight. If you
are joining me live, feel free to put it up
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me on one of the socials, anything and anything I
can answer for you, I gladly will and show so again, Yeah,

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not gonna not dive into too many prospects, but giving
several prospects as examples, why they fit, why they don't,
so on and so forth. But again, feel free to
put anything and everything that you got into the chat.
Super chats as always get priority because I respect the
monetary donation and I see the color and it takes
me away from my notes and he allows me to
focus on that. But I will try to get to

(06:38):
everything in the chat as humanly possible, going through some
of the stuff. Now. Appreciate you Ron for the very
kind words. RJ with Yeah, some news that happened in
the last hour or so, maybe hour and a half.
Argie says, hey everyone, he said not looking forward to
Diggs trying only two games a year against the Bills. Yes,
if im Diggs signed a three year contract with the

(06:59):
New England page, it's up the sixty nine million dollars,
I think twenty six million guaranteed. I'm interested to see
how the contract kind of lays out in terms of
how much money will he actually realistically accrue over those
three years. Is it a true three, is it more
of a two plus one? Is it more of a
one plus a two. Interested to see what that looks
like for Stefan Diggs and interesting for the fit. I

(07:23):
think the fit works. I like Drake May as a quarterback.
I think what Digs can do to elevate that wide
receiver room and how he fits with May and the offense. Again,
we'll see new coaching staff gotta out of all that
kind of stuff, But yeah, I think it's a good
fit for Drake May. At least we'll see if it's
a good fit for Digs and what that means for
the Pats. Yeah. I still think he's got some good
juice left in the tank. He looked good in Houston

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last year. Man Houston kind of got robbed a little
bit last year and Nico Collins went down for a
good chunk of the year, and then Digs went down,
and then Tank Dell went down. They and they still
you know, went to the playoffs and did their thing
Final fourteen. But yeah, I lost a little bit of
an opportunity to kind of see what they could have
done in the AFE last year. Baldylocks saying good even

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and everybody, what's up? What's up? Billy De says, do
we double up? Ooh man, this is a heart dating
question right off ritt. Billy De says, do we do
we double up on corner and let Benford walk after
the season? Oh? My prob Two things. One, even the
most surefire, can't miss prospect isn't a surefire, can't miss prospect.

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So you could take a you could take a corner
with every single pick in this draft, and there's a
chance that every single one of those corners are gonna
bottom out and you're not gonna get what you want.
Granted I doubt that would happen, but still just kind
of putting it out there from an odds probability perspective.
Christian Benford has been crushing it CB one. I think
either he's still ascending a bit. I think he's getting

(08:49):
close to that ceiling, but he's continued to improve year
over year. I don't mind if they double dip on
corner strictly because I don't think the long term answers
at corner or on this roster. We talked about it
last week. Right now, you're looking at Benford, you're looking
at Dan Jackson, you're looking at JaMarcus Ingram. Like I
think there's Dan Jackson only signed a one year. I
think you legitimately have questions on the bills roster right now.

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At CB two and CB three, I think Dane is
more of a CB four to a high end CB three,
just based on the system. JaMarcus Ingram has some inside
outside versatility, but is very much unproven. If you wanted
to plug him anywhere on the depth trot, I wouldn't
really fight you too much. But I like the idea
of double dipping, especially you know, if they get a
corner on or at pick thirty or even on if

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it comes in round two, and then taking another one
in round four, round five, depending on what you got
with whoever falls. I like the idea of double dipping
a corner. Oh Letting Benford Walk, I think is just very, very,
very risky. Who knows. If you like what you get
from the corners, you know, maybe there's something they see
that we don't know and they feel comfortable doing it.
I'm very hesitant to let a very good player at

(09:55):
a premium position walk. I don't think it's completely crazy,
but I I would not advocate for that at this
at this state in the game, or at the stage
of the game. Man eight minutes fifty five seconds in
first flub, I think I had wondering the intro too,
so maybe that is a I've had a flub before this,
but I apop that. I like where your heads at
though interesting getting the juices flow, and I like it.
Ron says, hopefully they make a shift of defensive tackling

(10:18):
go bigger. We will definitely be getting into that conversation
tonight when it comes to the defensive tackle piece. Ron
also following up with some secondary stuff, saying we need
more speed and athleticism in the secondary, especially at corner.
We will be talking about that. I like where your
head is at already. Oh Man Baldy is saying, or
see what we can get for corner and triple it man,

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people like not advocating for for jettison jettisoning Benford out,
but man Ron says, we need to add two cbs
in the draft. John, what's up? John? John says, Bean
is always always negotiating. We just don't know about it.
I trust in being to extend Bedford. I do as well,
just with how everything's shaken out. Maybe it's one that

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happens later in the spring or in the summer, or
right before the you know, in camp, or right before
the start of the season. I the way his fit
has been, being a homegrown guy, being within the system
for all these years, I think it just makes logical
sense to extend him. I would be disappointed if they
did not, especially considering that, you know, what they paid

(11:22):
at other spots. But you know, that's just my two cents,
no pun intended. Laratist says, after what happened with Elam,
you keep Benford. I would like to see them keep
Christian Bedford again. And you know, I feel like it's
the success of Christian Benford cost Kayer Elim. I feel
like Elam was Gomorrah and the Bills were Thanos, and

(11:44):
to get that soul Stone and Christian Benford. It costs
kyer Elam, but it is what is. Sometimes it works out,
sometimes it doesn't. I think with that being said, let's
dive into corner in terms of being you know, the
first position we talk about here, my number one position
of me currently on this rosteralked about the reasons why
for that in the last week's episode. Not trying to
do a cheap plug for last week's episode, but if

(12:06):
you didn't catch that, get into that episode for the
reasons why with corner, interior, defensive line, edge wide, receiver safety,
what the roster looks like now, under contract quality, depth
chart this year, next year, that go forward, all that
kind of stuff. I don't want to rehash too much
of it in this episode, but I did a deep
dive into all that last week. When it comes to corner.
What I think is very interesting with this spot, and

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some of you guys have already alluded to it in
the chat, what I would like for them to have
a corner. Let me start with that going forward, and
I've talked about it on the show. I've talked about
it really for the past couple of seasons. But the
bills need at corner, especially with what we saw in
twenty twenty four. They need more airspace restrictors. They need

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corners who can play and tighten passing windows. Now, this
can happen in a multitude of ways. It could be
a corner who plays press. It could be a corner
who's very good in man coverage. It could be a
corner that's good at both of those things. It could
be a corner who's got a quick trigger or good
eyes and as the ability to jump routes or play
with anticipation read receivers. There's a multitude of ways in

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which you can kind of address this. The easiest for
me or kind of low access that I'm thinking about.
It's part of the reason why I gravitated towards somebody
like Trey Amos Is. Play some press, get into receivers
on the line of scrimmage. You can either have a
true press and jam them at the line, or you
can just soft shoe mirror them with your feet, that
type of deal. But give me somebody who's capable of

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playing press. Give me somebody who's capable of playing man coverage.
Somebody who's able to stay in phase and stay in
the kitchen of these wide receivers. And restrict that airspace
create a disconnect between the timing of the receiver and
the timing of the quarterbacks. So if they look and
they're trying to throw something quick, or they got a
one to three step drop and they're looking to spit

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it out fast, and uh oh, there's a corner either
right on my guy and the stem is changed and
I can't throw right now, or the coverage is too
tight and I don't want to throw it. Or you've
got a corner who's sitting off a little bit, but
you know that he's sitting on a certain type of route.
He's got the trigger where he can jump and close
and make you pay if you throw it out there
and your location isn't right or the timing isn't right,

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they need more airspace restricts constrictors at that spot. I
also think to Ron's points earlier, it was Ron want
to make sure, Yes, I think some of that also
ties into the speed and athleticism in the secondary as
a whole, but especially at corner. I would like them
to be able to kind of fight fire with fire
at the wide receiver spot for years, and also to

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it's not like I don't want to cast anybody into
much of a bad light because they've had good corner play.
But Trey White, you know, was more technical than he
was anything, and he was tremendous. He was an all pro.
Benford really takes a lot of boxes in a multitude
of ways. Is a good athlete. I wouldn't say necessarily
a plus athlete or a burner, but the size, the
length of physicality, the flexibility, the hip sync. He's able

(14:59):
to do so much throughout recognition, the confidence, all those things.
He takes a lot of boxes. But Rasoul Douglas wasn't
a burner, but was a good corner until he kind
of fell off a little bit in twenty twenty four.
And aside from that corner too, has always been the
Levi Wallace's, the Dane Jackson's, these guys that are very
technically sound, functionally responsible in their assignments and their responsibilities,

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but not necessarily over the athletic or juiced up or
you know, man, this big strong guy or guys were
good link guys, are good athletics, guys that are good
with man coverage, so on and so forth. They kind
of had this mold and that mold and that archetype
has been guys that are responsible, guys that will be
there in their spot when they need to be in

(15:45):
their spot and be where the coaching staff expects and
be where the rest of the defense and their teammates
expect them to be. Now, the one time they kind
of deviated from that was Kyrie Reeling. Instead of going
for the scheme fit, instead up going with the archetype fit.
They went for more of the traits and more of
the tools. They went for the better athlete. They went

(16:07):
for the speed, the size, the length, the athleticism. That's
what they went for, and it didn't work out unfortunately
for them. I still think they need to go in
that vein. I just think they can't swing so far
to that side and into the traits and into the tools.
I said it when they drafted him. I maintained it

(16:27):
the whole time. I didn't like the fit for Elam
when the Bills drafted him. I just with how much
man he played and the type of man coverage he played,
you know, not having a legal contact as a penalty.
In college. He was able to just mug receivers left
and right, grab, punch, hold anything and everything until that
ball was in the air, and when you do that

(16:49):
with his size and length and athleticism and speed, it
created a huge advantage for him. I didn't think that
would play in the NFL. But again, he had a
good head on his shoulders. He was a smart kid.
He is a smart kid. He had the and the
Bills have gotten so much blood out of other corners
and nose stones. I was like, Okay, you know, if
there is upside here, let's see what you get. Obviously,
that never came to fruition, and Kyrie even was traded

(17:10):
to the Cowboys this offseason a couple weeks ago. I
still do think you need to move in that regard.
I think you need to go towards someone who gives
you a little more twitch, gives you a little more juice,
gives you a little more athleticism. When you start to
play these better teams in the playoffs, you are you're
gonna eventually come across somebody that has size and speed

(17:32):
and athleticism at the wide receiver position. I mean, even
if we look at what the Eagles had last year,
like could the Bills fight fire with fire and find
somebody to match up against a J. Brown and DeVonta Smith.
You've I mean, Cincinnati's O line is an issue. But
with the Bengals, you know, do you have somebody who
can combat Jamar Chase and T Higgins or even with
the Ravens, do you have somebody who can run with
Z eight flowers and stick with him? Gives all these

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small little examples, but I say all that to say,
give me more athleticism in the secondary, which is a
bit of an archetype shift then years past. And aside
from that, they need someone who can play press or
who has a quick trigger, who can restrict airspace and
squeeze passing windows. Again, all of it it comes down

(18:16):
to squeezing those windows and making things tighter. And you
can do it right from the line of scrimmage and
right from the from the snap, or you can do
it a little bit after again by sitting and having
that ability to come forward to close down drive on routes,
being good at the break, not allowing guys to separate
in the stem or separating on the brake. You've got
You've got really the three phases of a route. You
have the release where they're coming off the line of scrimmage.

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You have the stem which is how they kind of
build their route. And then you have the brake. You
know the cut, You know where are they move and
what are they doing, how are they changing that stem,
so you have the opportunity to squeeze the passing window
and restrict that receiver space and the offensive airspace and
all three of those spots. So you can do it
at the release, you can do it in the stem,

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and you can do it on the break, and you
can do it with a multitude ways. You can do
it by being impressed. You can do it by being
impressed and jamming on the snap. You can do it
by being in press but just kind of mirroring and
having good feet and being a good athlete. Or you
could do it by being in off, maybe stepping up
a little bit and then squeezing things on the break
as opposed to squeezing it in the stem or squeezing
it on the release. All of those things take varied techniques,

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varied skill sets, varied traits, but a common theme amongst
a lot of them would be good feet, good athleticism,
some sort of short area burst or quickness, the ability
to not let guys get into your body. It comes
down to how guys are built in terms of their
frame physically and also in terms of how they play

(19:42):
the game, what tools and traits they have, but also
the coverages that they come from. Again, not the you know,
drum on this too much. Trey Amos ticks a heavy
majority of not all of these boxes for the Buffalo Bills.
His ability to play press, his length plus feet and
the combination of those two things allowing him to stay
in phase and man coverage, the zone coverage capabilities, how

(20:04):
he can fall off and collect with regularity, his match
coverage capabilities, the tackling, the physicality what he offers. He
takes so many of these boxes. I think Johday Barron
ticks a lot of boxes from the physicality perspective as well,
but a different type. I don't think he's the same
kind of press corner that Amos is, but his quick trigger,
the short area burst hit. He's got great peripheral visions,

(20:27):
so he can he can have that kind of hinge
in that turn where he's looking at the quarterback, but
as soon as the receiver breaks in on a slant
orn in and he sees that flash of color, he
can drive on it and close and break that pass up,
but he's also got the ability to do that and
still read the QB and see, oh he's actually still

(20:48):
hitting his drop or that's just a pump. Let me
slam on the brakes because now it's actually a slant
and go. So the technique plus his vision in processing
and athleticism allow him to tighten passing windows and restrict
and also what he is as a forced player, as
a tackler, as a guy in the run fit, he
takes so many boxes as well. I really do look
for one, you know. I wanted to use those two

(21:09):
guys in juxtaposition with one another because I think they're
different players, but I both think they can help the
Bills defense at corner in their move towards kind of
tweaking the archetype a little bit, just in different ways,
and it really helped the defense kind of evolves schematically
and again have more athleticism or juice on the back end,
but more airspace constriction and be able to tighten pass

(21:29):
the windows. I think at the end of the day,
I think Baron's going to be gone. I think the
corners you're really looking at for the Bills in this
draft are guys with some length and guys who can
play press, and there's a variety of them. You've got again,
You've got Trey Amos, You've got Darian Porter from Iowa State.
You've got as A Ray or as a Ray Thomas
from Florida State. Just kind of throwing out some names

(21:50):
in terms of, you know, day one and day two guys,
and I do think they go corner on day one
or day two. I haven't finished Benjamin Morris yet, so
if anyone wants to ask me about him, I have
not taken peak and him yet. You've got Chavon Revel
or chevon Revel. I've heard multiple ways of his name
being pronounced to him and him responding, so I don't
even know what the correct pronunciation is at this point.

(22:10):
I have some questions on Revel just I personally don't
gravitate towards guys that are high cut, meaning guys that
have like long legs and kind of shorter torsos, and
I think that can lead to issues with change of direction,
change of direction, hip sync fluidity, And I do have

(22:31):
some questions with Revel Revel. I'm gonna say his name
like seventy five different ways throughout this episode throughout this
draft cycle. But I like him as a press corner.
I do think he has to be more of a
true press corner because he is higher cut and longer legs.
I think change of direction is going to be an issue,
So I don't think he necessarily is that guy that's
gonna be able to mirror someone and kind of soft

(22:53):
shoe press him and just be able to stay in
their kitchen with footwork and hip fluidity and sink and
all that. I think he needs to use his length,
use his size, use his frame, and get on guys early.
When he does have a true press, he tends to
go with the two hand jam, which I don't love
because you can essentially get kind of locked in your hips,

(23:14):
like when you go forward like that, you're locking your
hips when you go with that two hand jam or
that two hand true press. And if you miss a
guy and you don't get those hands, now your transition
getting a field and turning to run with that guy
is a little suspect. And that's even more so for
a guy who I think has some change of direction
or some you know, hip fluidity type of pieces. And
I also think this again, because he's high cut, he

(23:35):
plays a little tight I'm sorry tight whit actually get
tight in the hips, but a little upright as a player,
you know, there's not a lot of dip ben sync
to his game. And then because again he is that
higher cut, I think on brakes he can allow some
separation and things. But I think he's another name to consider.
I think anybody, anybody who has length and can play

(23:56):
press in this draft class should be a name that
the Bills look towards, and they've met with a lot
of these guys. Again, my ideal candidate right now is
Trey Amos at pick thirty. I've been in this camp
since before the Combine and then he ran a four
to four three and that kind of solidified things for me.
But that's kind of where I'm at again, just because
I think I would love John A. Baron at thirty,

(24:18):
I really don't think he's gonna be there, so I'm
kind of but I wanted to use him and Amos
use him in these other corners as a juxtaposition of
what you can have. But I think the Bills will
end up with a longer press type of corner in
this draft, and I think a lot of the ones
that are available fit what you're trying to do. From
a scheme standpoint, this is I don't think the guys

(24:39):
that I named aren't another Kayu relum situation where it's like, well, yeah,
but are they gonna be able to adjust to the scheme,
can they learn it? So on and so forth. I
think they're more kind of natural fits, especially if you're
kind of simplifying or tweaking a little bit with what
the defense does, which should be some more match coverage,
some more man coverage either way, more and principles baked

(25:01):
into the zone coverage. And even if it was just
regular zone, these corners all can function in his zone
capacity as well. So again Bill's traditional archetype at corner
is less to do with athleticism, less to do with size,
less to do with speed, and it's traditionally been more
of responsibility, playing from the neck up, sound, smart, reliable, responsible.

(25:25):
I think they need to tweak that a little bit.
And if you can get guys that are still that
but also be good athletes and then fit the scheme, hooray.
And I think a lot of these guys that I mentioned,
especially for Amos, take that box. But I think they
need to tweak that archetype a little bit and add
in a little more athleticism, a little more juice, a
little more foot speed, a little more flexibility. Change that

(25:46):
position a little bit less technically any just less technically sound,
less responsible, reliable, little more little more twitch, a little
more juice, a little more physical traits, while not losing
the reponsibility and the assignment sound and scheme fit nature
all of it. Again, I think there's a happy medium

(26:06):
to kind of really juxtapose it and move on to
some of your comments before we go to the next
position grouping. I don't no disrespect to anyone. I don't
want Dane Jackson, but I don't want kyer Elam. Okay,
that's the opposite ends of the spectrum. There's plenty of
space all in here for them to tweak that a
little bit. Like day Jackson is ninety ten towards one way,

(26:27):
I think kyer Elam was ninety ten towards the other.
We don't need that. You can go seventy thirty either way.
You could go sixty forty. It could be fifty five
to forty five. They need some some balance of that. Again,
I don't want to swing just for the traits and
just for the sexiness like they did with Kyer, and
I don't want to just hit a bunch of singles
and have to steal bases if that guy gets on base.

(26:50):
It's kind of the way I'm looking at it. For corner.
Let's go to some of the questions for you folks.
Ron says, the problem with this scheme back to earlier
as we get abused in the playoffs because their DB's
can't match up. Again, that's what it's hard to It's
hard to be technically sound over and over and over
and over again. That's what I'm saying. That you need.

(27:12):
You need to be able to fight fire with fire
a little bit, you know. And Ron says, yeah, with
the dbs we've had, Yeah, you have to be able
to fight fire with fire a little bit. You you
don't have to be a burner or the most physically
imposing guy to stick with like aj Brown or stick
with Jamar Chase. You can do it with technique, but
your technique that you have so such little margin for

(27:32):
error because those guys have physical dominant traits or athletic
athletically dominant traits that if you're not on point with
your footwork or your timing, or your turn or your pedal.
You're you're in a bad way, and I think that's
where the Bills have lived for a lot of that time.

(27:53):
This is hilarious and how accurate is this? Guy says?
I realized Cover one glazes the team. First off, glazes,
grow up the team because they could get sued for
using all that footage if they said anything negative. That's
not true at all. This is such a wildly inaccurate comment.
I just wanted to pull up. That's man funny. Jared says.
I say, trade up for Will Johnson or em and
Warri if either are still on the board at seventeen

(28:15):
or nineteen. The Bengals and Bucks need picks. Maybe get
Kobe Bryant in the fourth round. Yeah, Kobe Bryant. Another
Kobe Bryant spelled differently than the Kobe Bryant from Cincinnati
a couple of years ago who plays in Seattle. I
haven't watched Kobe Bryant yet from Kansas. I have not
taken a peek at him yet, but he's a name.
As I start to finish out corner, as we go forward,

(28:36):
I would be all aboard for Will Johnson. I don't
think Emmon Warry is a scheme fit, and I'm not
that high personally on him as a prospect. I don't
think he plays to the athleticism in size that he
tested with and his feet are a bit clunky, kind
of like he has cement in issues. I think I
think he's more scheme specific than he is, just kind
of a plug and play guy with a multitude of teams.

(28:56):
And I don't individually love the fifth for the Bills,
but teach their rown also. Em and Warry finished third
in my Heisman in the Heisman running my first year
playing NCAA twenty five when we won the Natty with
South Carolina, So he does hold a special play in
my heart. Tangk Ninja says, to be fair, it's not
like Douglas was doing us any favors, not getting DPI

(29:16):
and etc. Last year, and he didn't have the speed
to make up for his slips. Yeah, he It's unfortunate.
He had a really good twenty twenty three. You know,
as soon as he was traded over, he was playing
like a true CV one. Just the brakes he was
making on the ball, the impact, the physicality, the run
fits I would love to welcome him back like as
a CB three, and then have like a CB in
round one or round two to be your starter, and

(29:37):
then you're looking at a top four of Benford, rookie Corner, Douglas,
Dane Jackson. Like that gives you a high floor and
high ceiling combination. And I think he can really do
a lot for like the group as a whole in
terms of the mindset and the mentality you needed. But
yet I don't think he has the wheels right now
or the jews, or maybe he had some injury last
year that we weren't privy to. But yeah, he didn't

(29:59):
look like the same guy in twenty twenty four that
he did in twenty twenty three, and the Bills felt
it on the back end, especially with those underneath routes
like he he was so good at kind of sitting
at depth and waiting and triggering and getting interceptions and
breaking on the ball and driving and getting PBUs and
hitting guys, and we just we just didn't see that
with regularity from him in twenty twenty four. Ooh, Johnson's

(30:24):
I don't mind moving up using our fourth through sixth
round picks to get there. Our first three picks first
and two second rounds need to get us a cb
DT and edge. I don't disagree. Give me a corner
a defensive deck on an edge in the first three
picks for the Bills. I move too much when I
do these shows. It makes my camera refocus sometimes, ndy

(30:45):
El says Darian Porter thoughts of Darien Porter corner from
Iowa State. Let me pull up my evaluation notes. Good
spatial awareness is zone end zone, able to drop, able
to space routes accordingly in spot drop regular zone coverage.
A press man corner susceptible to underneath routes and inbreakers,
his feet tend to get crossed up and or stuck,

(31:08):
which will leave him, you know, to get caught lunging.
His feet and hands get out of sync more than
you would like. He's a willing force player and a
willing tackler, willing to come up and play the run,
but his lankiness and frame makes him a bit movable
and susceptible to broken tackles. Good eyes, good processing, some
of that. I wouldn't be opposed to the Bills targeting
in round two. I have more of a kind of

(31:31):
a or like a third second to third round grade
on him, but without the Bills having a third, I
wouldn't be opposed. I don't love him, but I'm fine
with him kind of coming in and battling and going
from there. John Roberts says, what's your opinion on Maxwell Harriston.
I like Maxwell Harston. There is maybe some off the
field stuff that I think might take him off the
Bill's board, but I'll read my evaluation because he's right

(31:52):
here too. Calm and clean feet plus recovery, speed plus athleticism,
A willing but poor tackler angles into decisions are a
bit questionable and run support and especially as far as
a fit and forced player, but the willingness is there
and you will see him make some good tackles from
time to time. Recovery speed and feet allow him to
get back and phase when fool versus routes. Athletics has

(32:14):
been speed again are a plus. Good short area burst,
able to play both the left and right side, able
to collect routes and zone coverage. Also good zone spatial awareness,
able to fall off routes, able to bait quarterbacks, will
let wide receivers into his blind spot from time to time,
but the recovery speed and athleticism may allow him to
recover even at an NFL level because that speed from

(32:36):
an on tape perspective and time perspective is very real,
able to play cover two, cover three, straight up man,
coverage press man. Physical smaller frame stature will limit him
a bit at the catch point at times and at
the tackle point, but overall on explosive athletic corner. Ron
says Amos in the first and Quincy Riley from Louisa

(32:59):
later in the draft. Yeah, I'm not Ryley's one who
keeps popping up for me again, He's and I will
be finishing all for those who don't know. April is
my like big. I finish my prospect evaluations for each
group to really get to about like ten to fifteen
guys deep at every position as much as I can,
so I'm really solidifying everything going forward. This is great

(33:19):
from rj Rgi says, So what quarter will fit the
Bills best? And when does Casey trade up in front
of us to grab them? I'll tell you, man, and
you know this, and so many people know this about me,
with how much I love Trent McDuffie and how much
I pounded the table for him. If the Chiefs trade
up and take Trey A. Moos, that might be it
for me. As like a football person, I'm I'm out,

(33:40):
like I'm done. I'm I don't know where I would
go in the world, but it would it would I
would be in a bad way. I can't even verbalize
how much that would jack me up mentally and emotionally.
Sound says that we continue the same schemes, nothing will change.
McDermot is a rocket. I don't think he's necessari rockheat.
I think he's got for again for all intents and

(34:03):
purposes on the whole bill's winning percentage, their advanced metrics,
their just regular win loss record year over year, where
they go in the playoffs, they've had success. So I
understand him not completely revamping or revolutionizing you know, what's
worked for him. But I do think there are some
tweaks they've made some in the past. I'm interested to
see what they will do this year. Give them the

(34:24):
breadcrumbs we've seen drop from him, the coaching staff changes
and some of the things that myself and Eric have
been told in our film room episodes with Greg Russou
with Terrell Bernard, some of those interesting nuggets. Pete says,
there's guys worth trading up for locking into. Using those
first three picks on three different players doesn't mean we're

(34:45):
getting impactful snaps. Look at the uncertainty with Bishop even
a year in very fair points. That's my biggest detractor
when it comes to trading up in the draft, because
it is such a crapshoot, like I mentioned earlier, like, oh,
surefire thing is a surefire thing, so I prefer as
many swings at the plate as possible. And they've got again.

(35:08):
If you sacrifice draft capital to move up, in theory,
you're moving up for more of a surefire guy, but
that surefire guys still may not work out, So you're
sacrificing capital for something that is still unsure even though
it has more probability of being sure. I think that's
very fair. Baizon says, do you think there's any chance
Daiquon Hardy could improve and crack the roster? Finally, he

(35:28):
did no promise in the preseason, like you mentioned, but
they cut him and then welcomed him back. I don't know,
I don't know, I don't know. Charles says, Az Thomas
might be the most boom bust. The traits are crazy.
These one of the youngest cbs. There's some things to
light there, for sure. Pete says he'd move up for
a CB or defensive lineman. There's guys who can be
our CB two available, fifty six or sixty two. Ideally

(35:49):
stay put, but that's too prudent. Sometimes I would prefer
corner it round in round one, mainly because of Amos,
because the defensive the interior defensive lineman that I think
will be available at where the bill's picking round two.
I like those guys better than the corners that I
think will be available there. But I think this is
a fair point. I don't hate it completely. Oh. Paison

(36:15):
says also random question, but primetray White versus Benford right now,
who is better Prime Tray White? No disrespect to Benford.
Primetray White was lockdown, lockdown in an all pro primetray
White bills are electric, saying Maxwell had a really good
Senior Bowl. Yeah, I didn't go to the Senior Bowl

(36:35):
this year. I also responded to you on Twitter when
you asked me some stuff about Jonash Sanker. Yeah, I
didn't go to the Senior Bowl this year, and I
paid attention to some of it, but I wasn't completely locked,
in part because I was emotional that I wasn't there.
Noah says he wants a Gyrg Alexander type corner that
trash talks and his ball hawk. Yeah, it's a different
kind of it's a different kind of mentality with guys

(36:57):
like Gaiere. Okay, okay. Just the typical news says, one
day in the very distant future, if we are allowed
to clone human beings, it will make for great roster building.
That's a very fair point. That's really what the bill
should be doing. They should be investing in clone based technology,
so they could just clone Christian Benford and you don't

(37:17):
need to worry about CBE two. You just clone Christian Benford. Poom,
You're good to go. This is a great comment from
rock Pile. Oh I'm I'm guessing I know who it
came from on rock Pile, and I hope something for
the check gets it. It's the communists. So we have
a one hundred and forty one and two thirds chance
of getting a dB, Eric getting a CB and defensive
lineman with our first two picks. Question Mark, that's some

(37:39):
good Steiner math. Right there. I like that well done. Yeah,
so good conversation piece on the corner aspect. And again
what they've gravitated towards in the past, guys like Dane Jackson,
guys like Levi Wallace. It could be a little less
of that doesn't have to be full scale full till
Kyrie Elan there is a happy medium, just kind of
split that difference a little bit. Ish Will says, Wow,
how quickly they forget Trey white Man not only an

(38:02):
all probe, but had that clutch it factor always came
up big when you needed him. Man. He was uh yeah,
prime tray White. The feet, the hand usage, the ability
to stay in phase, the zone coverage, how he could
process and red react, fall off bake collect man. Yeah yeah,
prime trade White was sweet, you know what? And he

(38:22):
did uh on the trade White aspect. He had some
good reps for Baltimore last year. I thought he was
gonna get more burned down the stretches suppoially with Brandon
Stevens struggling, but they would use him, kind of mix
him in every once in a while as like their
third CB, and do some different stuff. He had some
fun reps for Baltimore I'm still I'm still pulling for him.
Good dude, and was a really good player when he
was here. It's unfortunate with the injuries, but you know,

(38:44):
we'll kind of see. All right, let's go to the
interior defensive line. I think this one is the most
not necessarily straightforward, but the straightforward from my perspective. But
I think the most muddy when you do when you
when you chuck to pose what fans want versus what
they have traditionally done. And I like that. Just to

(39:06):
Tipka who says eleven Torel Bernards and then Noahcheldon says,
get Taron Johnson an evil clone and play him at
CB two. I like that. Yeah, the Bills archetype at
interior defensive line, I think is so important to talk
about with what a lot of the fan base wants
at interior defensive line, so much of And maybe maybe

(39:29):
maybe I'm seeing this wrong, and maybe it just happens
to be what I continue to see or hear about
on social and even in real life. But the idea
for that, you know, bigger bodied one tech, that true
one tech. I just don't think it's something that they're
necessarily going to go For the example, I kind of
want to use like Devandre Sweat, who I liked last

(39:50):
year coming out of Texas, and man, he had a
great rookie year. You know, it helps to play next
to Jeffrey Simmons. But that type of one tech that
literal bigger bodied space eater people eater on the interior,
is not traditionally who they gravitate towards. Their one techs
are usually from a size perspective, somewhere between like three

(40:11):
ten to three point fifteen maybe, But it's all about
playing with strength. A Ron says, trade for Simmons go.
I would give up so much for Jeffrey Simmons their
interior defensive line. From a one tech perspective, you need
to have that play strength. But they don't gravitate towards
the size. Part of the reason they don't gravitate towards
the size, and this again all part of the larger conversation.

(40:32):
They want guys that can affect the quarterback in addition
to playing the run, and if they had to pick
which one they would have and sacrifice the other, they'll
sacrifice some of the run defense stuff for somebody who
can run the rush the passer and if you you know,
just some examples to kind of further that in that
conversation piece, right, they struggled last year with the run.

(40:53):
We saw guys getting displaced on the interior, defensive tackles,
getting blown off the ball. Whether it was Dwyane Carter,
Austin Johnson, Jordan Phillip, Quentin Jefferson didn't play a ton
against the run, but you saw what happened with him.
They had eleonk who sitting on the practice squad, who
is an absolute tank to move, who does not get displaced,
who can solidify your run game a little bit right,

(41:15):
your run defense game a little bit, i should say,
doesn't really offer a lot as a pass rusher, and
we saw him not get called up despite them playing
run based teams, despite guys getting blown off the ball,
despite having questions about the spine of the defense, and
again displacement, guys being knocked over gaps, getting blown two, three, four,
five yards downfield off the ball, they still kind of

(41:36):
left Ileanku chilling there. Even Charles in the comment says
poon Afford, poon Afford the year before poon AFFORDA is
a little bit different from the archetype conversation I just
don't get why he played. They opted to bring in
Linval Joseph, who is more of a true plugger in
Space Eater, but he just didn't play great because he
didn't have any legs left based on where he was
in his career. And good comment here from Ron saying,

(41:58):
when you have small linebackers, you need your to tackles
to hold up absolutely spot on run. So Poona I
think is a little bit different with the archetype conversation.
I think Poona was more that they just didn't like
the person, not necessarily the scheme fit, because again they
went and they grabbed Linval Joseph, who was like Poona
four times I don't know a thousand with how much

(42:18):
bigger he was and even less pass rush juice than Poona.
I just would have played Poona over a lot of
the other guys they were playing once Daequon went down
like his flashes were legit to me and I like
them a lot. I still don't get why they didn't play.
And then you saw the success that he had with
the Chargers and he got paid by the Rams. He
goes to a Rams front. Now, good for him, he
should be able to especially with their multiplicity, it'll fit

(42:38):
his game a little bit more. Pete says, I find
a one tech conversation deeply upsetting. You don't have to
be three hundred and thirty pounds to stop the run well,
and this is again part of that conversation. I think
a lot of fans want the space eater, the big
body because they think that's what it takes to stop
the run to withstand double teams, and it's not necessarily true.

(43:00):
Daikwon Jones is a really good example, right, Daikwon Jones
when he came down to the when he came to
the bills, he slimmed down. He shed weight to play
at one tech between three h seven and three hundred
and ten pounds, and when he was cooking, he was
cooking as that one tech a guy who could just
club dudes out of the way, throw guys out of
the club, inside anchor against double teams, drop the knee.

(43:23):
So you don't have to be three hundred and twenty
three hundred and twenty five, three hundred and thirty pounds
to be an effective one tech. So that's first and foremost.
You don't have to be huge to be able to
impact the run. The second part of that, the bigger
you are. In theory, certain body types and frames, the
larger they are do tend to help being able to

(43:45):
withstand the run. But that being said, again going back
to point one, you don't have to be Videvea to
hold up against the run if you are awesome, but
you don't have to be that guy. Right. Part three
of that is, even if you are that huge plugger,
the bills have not gravitated towards that. On the interior.
Linvold Joseph I think is the biggest outlier of all

(44:07):
of them. He didn't really have any pass rush Juice Lapp,
it was pure plugger aspect versus the run. I still
don't get he didn't have any legs left in the
him playing over pooing a larger conversation, but he is
the outlier. From a size perspective, he kind of fit
that bigger body like, oh, this is what we want.
A plugger on the inside. Jordan Phillips, I know, is
very huge, kind of fits that from a size perspective,

(44:28):
but from a play style perspective, he's a pass rusher,
not a plugger. Not anchoring against double teams, not dropping
the knee that kind of guy. That is also I
think a very good conversation point. To go back to
Pete's point of saying, you don't have to be three
hundred and thirty pounds to stop the run. Well, Jordan
Phillips was built like the plugger a lot of fans want,
but his play style wasn't that type of play style.

(44:52):
It comes down to how you play the game. So
I don't think you need someone who's three twenty three,
twenty five, three thirty as through one tech right, And
aside from that, I don't think the Bills believe that's
what they want at one tech. They want someone who
can if you can anchor against the run, cool, if
you can split double teams, cool, but you need to

(45:14):
be able to have an impact as a pass rusher.
The two prototypical examples, I think that fit what the
Bills want at a one tech or defensive tackle in
this draft early I'll say Derek Harmon from Oregon and
Darius Alexander from Toledo. The pass rush juice, the size
the frame. Guys that still have enough to penetrate in

(45:35):
one gap and get upfield and rush the quarterback, but
can also maintain responsibility against the run. Can anchor a
double team, can play with some core strength, can drop
the knee, can gum up the works. Cannot get displaced
or I should say limit how much they get displaced
versus the run. That's what the Bills want on their
interior in general, guys that can just limit displacement but

(45:56):
also impact the quarterback. Another example of this. You know,
not only did Daiquon shd wait when he came to Buffalo,
but you take Austin Johnson, who was a pure one
tech for the most part with the Giants a couple
of seasons ago, plays in a similar big body mold
with the Chargers, comes to the Bills. He trimmed down
to come to the Bills, and him and Dwayne Carter

(46:16):
are kind of rotating between one tech and three tech.
That's what they view for that type of spot. Larry
Ogan Jobi, who they just signed as free agent, right,
I think he's built more to be a three tech.
He's going to see some snaps at one tech because
they value penetration and disruption and habit creation, and if
that means he gets blown off the ball time to time.

(46:36):
From time to time against double teams, which will happen
to him. They're cool living in that mold and in
that world. That's what they value at their archetype on
the interior. Now, a couple things again, I mentioned it,
and I think someone mentioned it in the chat and
I forgot who did, so I apologize for not bringing
it up and not starring it. But just with some
of the things that we've been told, myself and Eric

(46:56):
in the film room, speaking with to re Bernard, speaking
with Greg Russol, I do think there's a chance for
them to go for more of a run skewed one
tech or run skewed defensive tackle. Again, if I had
to put like a percentage on it, I think their
interior guys, especially from the rotational perspective, I think they
go like sixty five thirty five pass rush. I think

(47:20):
there's a chance that maybe they go sixty forty pass rush,
maybe fifty five forty five pass rush, maybe even fifty
five forty five run defense. I think there's a chance,
just with what they need defensively, what we all know
they need defensively, and what Bernard and Rousseau said to
us in the film or episodes, and if you haven't
seen those, go check those out, not even doing a

(47:41):
shameless plug. There's a ton of really great insight from
those guys and some tape that we broke down with them.
And I say all this to say they need guys
on the interior that can limit displacement and not get
blown off the ball horizontally or downfield. That is what
this Bill's defense needs. They play a lot of light box,
they play too high safety structures, they play in nickel defense,

(48:03):
and their linebackers are smaller. You do not want second
You don't want your second level defenders in terrel Bernard,
Matt Malano and Taron Johnson having to deal with guards
and centers and tackles get into the second level and
causing problems for him. Then they're gonna they're not doing
a lot of stack and shed. They're gonna have to
dip and rip and get around, which means you have
to move with anticipation. You have to trigger quickly and accurately.
But then also there's a chance you kind of get

(48:23):
bumped out of a gap a little bit, and that
can create more problems inside. With the issues they had
with yards before contact as a light box, yards after
contact as a light box, you need someone in on
the interior who has the capability to anchor and hold
their ground against double teams and against the run. But
you still need to be able to penetrate a little

(48:45):
bit for the bills. That's what they believe, and I
also believe that too, right, I don't think you can
just be you know, as all jokes aside, and people
mentioned him in the chat like Ted Washington. One is
my heart, little little Anthony me love Ted Washington and
love Pat Williams and what they would do and just
eat up space in the middle. Those guys aren't rocking
today because they're not really offering you anything as a
pass rush. Right. So now I say all that to say,

(49:09):
Derek Harmon fits there, right, Darius Alexander fits there. Someone
who I love in this draft, but I don't think
fits Tyleek Williams, the defensive tackle from Ohio State. And
I say, I don't know or I don't think he fits.
He's more of a more of a two down player.
I think he's more athletic than he gets credit for.
And he can push the pocket because he has some juice,

(49:31):
he has some explosion, but he's not a penetrator. He's
not a one gapper. He's not this guy that on
the snap is going to have these moves and be
able to get forward. He's going to try and because
he has some lateral explosion, he might step and give
you a quick club or a swimmer and arm over,
or get and get by a guy. But he's probably
just trying to drive linemen back into the quarterbacks lab.

(49:52):
I am willing to take that because I think he's
a plus defender against the run. His ability to diagnose
blocking schemes, recognize what's coming at at him, being able
to drop the knee against double teams. He can anchor
against the double. He can drop the knee against the double.
He can club somebody and throw him to the ground.
He can stack and shed and read a running back's
track and make a play in the hole. And I

(50:13):
do think he has more athleticism that he gets credit
for now. Within all that, Oh and see this is
a good one too, Charles says, Alfred Collins would also
seem like a traditional non fit. Alfred Collins is a
great example. I really, really really like Alfred Collins as
a run defender. Good recognition, great hand usage, textbook stack

(50:33):
and shed. He good pad level. Tyler Williams has really
good pad level as well, But Alfred Collins get into
somebody great hand placement, gets hands, gets control, is just
waiting for the running back to decide where to go,
chucking dudes down to the ground, makes a play. Alfred
Collins gives you nothing as a pass rusher. He has
this like spin move where he like spins in place.

(50:55):
He doesn't go anywhere. He falls down a lot with it.
Like there's nothing from a pass rusher ppect for Alfred Collins.
Now there could be maybe at some point, but there's
nothing really to see right now. I've watched so much
Texas tape, watching Collins and Macouba and Baron and Vernon
Broughton and a lot of dudes on their defense. I've
seen so many Texas games, and I think I can
probably count on one hand the amount of like good

(51:17):
pass or snaps from Alfric Collins. So he's even more
skewed in that regard. I still, I personally still wouldn't
mind taking him in round two because I like the
idea of Daikwon and Ed and Ogan Joby and Alfred
Collins as a rotational guy. I would prefer somebody higher
tier because I think Daikwon Jones is more suited for
a rotational role now than a true starter. But conversation

(51:38):
for another time. But yeah, Collins is even more in
that regard. The guys that they're looking for are again
being able to live in the light and the dark,
one gap penetrate, get upfield, be able to impact the
quarterback and impact the run. Collins is in that mold
ty Leak Williams is a little more in that mold Collins.

(52:00):
But he's not Harmon. He's not Alexander like those type
of dudes. And for those who might think like, oh,
like Harmon's more of a three tech or Alexander's more
of a three tech, I think they both can play both.
But I do think the Bills would view them as
a one tech based on their size and be based
on their previous archetype profiles and traditionally how they've operated.

(52:21):
And Paizon says they were interested in Laky Fokoo. Yes
they were, and that's what I think is most interesting.
He doesn't give you anything from a pass rush perspective.
He doesn't give you any of that pass rush upside
the fact that they were interested in him. Again, it
could just be a camp body, could be in the
bottom tier depth chart guy to battle and eat some
snaps in the preseason. I do think there's a little
more smoke and potentially more fire to it than that.

(52:43):
So it gives me hope that they could go for
someone who is more skewed towards run defense and not
just more pass rush than he is run defense. Ron says,
if you watched Jordan Phillips, he's only twenty years old
and moves pretty well. I have not defensive tackle from Maryland.
He's in my my final tier dudes to wrap up
interior defensive line. I've watched so many in a multitude

(53:04):
other ways. But when I have the interior defensive line conversation,
which will be several weeks from now, I don't remember
which date and what I'm doing where, but yeah, I
will have notes and film and lots of things on
Jordan Phillips. He will definitely be watched for me. Where
Todd says Harmon has a low tackle percentage, doesn't he

(53:26):
I don't know what Harmon's tackle percentage is, but my
biggest issue with Harmon is he's more of a disruptor
than he is finisher a lot of pressures. You'd like
to get more sacks. I think you see some of
the change of direction stuff. He's great at getting up field,
but then having to break down his base how he's built.
Sometimes we'll kind of mislead him at the tackle point,

(53:46):
at the sack point, I should say so. I think
he's more disruptor than finisher. But from how he's built,
from a frame perspective, and skill set and play style,
he fits what the Bills want on the interior in general,
even again as a one tech type of guy. RJ.
Don't be this dramatic. RJ says, being all drafted two
hundred and fifty pound defensive tackle and put him at

(54:07):
one tech, because of course they will. That's too far,
maybe like two point fifty five. I'm just kidding. No,
that's too far. But I that's fair. R Jay. I
expect to comment from you at this point. Let me go,
I wanted to speak on this a little bit. Jared
says Kenneth Grant would be the only defensive tackle I
would take the first round. If he's gone, no problem,
because there's plenty of talent in the second and John

(54:29):
Robert says Kenneth Grant a plugger. I spoke on him
in a little bit last week. I just want to
speak on him, not because I know so many folks
are asking about him. I'm not. I'm not as high
on Kenneth Grant as others are. The easiest way I
can describe him is I think he's a big man
and an athletic guy. I think he plays more to

(54:51):
the athletic side than he does the big side. I
think he plays, for being listened, at what three hundred
and thirty pounds, he plays like he's three zero five
or three ten at best. He plays like he wants
to get a field and rush to QB, not necessarily
anchor handle double teams, recognizing blocking schemes, do the run

(55:12):
defense stuff that you would think he would do because
of his size, or you may want him to. Again,
the flashes are there. The athleticism shows on tape. Did
have a great testing day at his pro day, which
kind of gives you some concern about the athleticism. But
I'm just a little down on him, especially in relative
comparison to others who are very high on what defensive
tackle two or like want him as a lock for

(55:35):
the bills at thirty, I would take him, know, I'd
welcome him, I wouldn't be overjoyed with it at thirty.
I don't think he He doesn't do enough for me
as a run defender and also doesn't do enough for
me as a pass rusher. But there are some traits
there and you could continue to build and he could develop.
But I think when he's doing pass, if he's not

(55:55):
winning on the snap with a quick, you know, his
go to move on the interior, when he wins as
a pass rusher, he'll get some you know, bul rush
and kind of drive a guy back, but it's usually
a side step and then some lateral explosion in a
quick swim or arm over back inside. If he's not
winning with that, he's stalling out a lot of times,
or he's doing moves almost for the sake of doing moves.

(56:17):
It's kind of like somebody who's playing a video game
and is just button mashing and just mashing buttons to
mash buttons. They're not doing this move to lead to
this move to lead to that. They're just kind of
trying to spam everything and hit what they can and
see what works. And so it gives me some cause
for concern. I think he's more developmental then he necessarily
gets then then thin finished product. I should say, again

(56:37):
a big guy and an athletic guy, but I think
he plays more to the athlete than he does the
big for a guy who's listed at three point thirty
and plays in that range, I think he plays more
like he's like he like he thinks he's three zero five.
He plays more as a one gap, penetrating upfield type
of defensive tackle. Then he does a displacement limterter, and

(56:58):
I don't think he doesn't off as an upfield pass
rushing like one gap type of penetrating guy. So it's
almost like he's this weird type of tweener, which again
gives me some more pause. I have to finalize my
interior defensive line rankings. But yeah, it's I don't love
him as much as others do. I have some cause
for concern. I wouldn't be, you know, distraught if they

(57:20):
took him. But I don't think he's this slam dunk
home run lock, amazing pick and fit like a lot
of folks think. I think that he may be, but again,
let's just be teached to run a lot of comments here.
Ron says, Tyleerk Williams would be a good get in
the second round. Man, if you could guarantee me right now,
right now, if you could tell me the Bills could
get Trey Amos at thirty and tai Leek Williams at

(57:43):
fifty six or sixty two or whatever it is, I
would sign him for that. Every single day of the week.
Every single day of the week, I would sign him
for that. I would take it immediately. I really like
Tyler Williams. Again, I think he offers more from an
athlete perspective. Again, he's not some plus athlete. He's not
a plus pass rusher, but he has enough juice and
power to impact the pocket and that's enough for me

(58:05):
considering what he does against the run, especially for this defense.
John Roberts says, how is Dean Walker, defensive tackle from Kentucky.
I didn't like his tape. The movement is really poor,
just with how he's built. But I do know that
he had a back injury last year and maybe that
impacted him a bit. So I have to go back
and watch him twenty twenty three tape and see maybe

(58:25):
if there was a significant difference there. As of right now,
I'm low on him, and I also don't see him
being a scheme fit for the Bills. Pete says, I
don't see it, but I would go to a dark
place if Harmon gets the thirty and we don't take him. Yeah,
to your point, I don't see Harmon lasting till thirty.
I don't think Harmon or Barren last till thirty from
a defensive tackle or cornerback perspective, respectively.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
What else, what else?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
What else? Sal says, watched the replay of the Ravens playoffs.
They ran the ball down our throat the whole third quarter.
That's a good point. I think it's an aspect that
gets lost in these Bills playoffs. Like that second half,
Baltimore ran the ball down the Bill's throat with regularity,
and when push came to shove at the end, Lamar

(59:15):
Jackson marched them down the field and was ready to
tie the game up if not for that drop. I mean,
even with that game in general, not to get too
far off track, I know the Bills forced some of
those turnovers right the the you know the pressure that
heated up Lamar that made him throw that deep ball
that Taylor ratt picked off even somewhat of what DeMar

(59:37):
Hamlin did to Lamar, but a lot of the rape
the Ravens really kind of shot themselves in their own foot.
The Mark Andrews fumble several of the drops even than
Lamar fumble to a degree. But aside from the turnovers,
and you can't do this because there was three of them,
But aside from those turnovers where Baltimore kind of shot
themselves on the foot of bit, they moved the ball
up and down the field at will on the bills
and then again when push came to shove in the

(59:58):
second half, it was just we're just gonna run the
ball down your throat and up the gut and there's
nothing you can do about it. And they couldn't do
anything about it, and I think that's very worrisome. Again,
the yards before contact speak to a degree from a
light box perspective. From the defense in general, I think
I think they showed up good and shorter down in
distances and big times when it matter, like third and

(01:00:19):
one or fourth and short of that kind of stuff.
But that was because they were able to gap out.
They would have to commit numbers to the box and
be able to win with numbers. They weren't winning individually.
They weren't winning with guys who were stealing gaps or
beating guys individually against the run. Aside from like Russeau
and Epanessa, especially on the interior, especially from a rotational perspective,

(01:00:39):
they were just getting driven off the ball left and right.
All right, Carlos has lots of shifts to rushing from
offenses last year. Does that impact the Bills going for
someone that's not the additional type, they don't really have
the horses to stop teams like the Ravens. That's an
A plus Q question, Charles. My answer is for you

(01:01:02):
saying does that impact the Bills going for someone that's
not the traditional type, My answer is I hope. So.
My second answer is we'll see. My third answer is
I really hope. So to your point, the run game
is coming back in vogue. It's not just a couple
teams that lean into it here and there. It's gonna matter,
and gap scheme runs in particular matter. So you need guys.

(01:01:25):
It's not just about being athletic enough to not get
reached or not have an offensive lineman cross your face.
And it's like Okay, you can shoot this gap or
you can cut this off from the backside. Now it's
can you hold your ground against a guy down blocking you?
Can you hold yourself against Can you hold your ground
against a double team? Can you come up? Can you
come up field and recognize that a guard just left

(01:01:46):
your gap and you not thinking, oh, I'm free, because
it's actually trap and now you're gonna get slammed in
your ear by the guard coming from the other side.
Or it's whaym and you came up field and there's
a tight end or a full back or an h
back who's gonna spear you in the other ear and
drive you out of the hole like there is. There
needs to be more emphasis on run defense, especially with
the Bills and how they're built defensively, and again all

(01:02:08):
of it ties into limiting what the pass game can do.
You want numbers in coverage, so you want to be
able to defend the run for light box. That from
a light box, that is the holy grail for a defense.
If you can defend the run with a light box
and have two high safety structures, you can have numbers
in coverage. If you can keep numbers in coverage and
when I say numbers like having seven guys being able

(01:02:30):
to drop or you know, depending on what it is,
who has to commit for the second level. But if
you have numbers in coverage, if you have the numbers
advantage against the pass, that's a very successful winning formula.
But you can only do that if you can stop
the run with less numbers. And in order to stop
the run with less numbers, you need guys up front
that can stop the run when they're outgunned. You need

(01:02:51):
guys who can beat a double team or a guy
who can steal a gap and make those plays against
the run. So I do hope that it impacts the
Bills going for someone that's not traditional type. I do
think they need more. They need more dirt and grit
and say in paper and violence on the inside from
a run game perspective, like that's what they need. Robert

(01:03:13):
says it's time to move on from Daikon Jones. Anthony,
your defensive line philosophy scares me. You have to get
a defensive line that stops the run. I don't disagree,
Payson says, resigned Jordan Phillips, then draft Jordan Phillips and
recreate this ass spider Man meme Ron says, I think
they can fix some of Harmon's issues and get a
lot out of them. I'll tell you this too. Right
for Harmon being a penetrator guy, and at Oliver also

(01:03:37):
being like a penetrator type of guy, and Ogunjoby being
that type of guy. Right, building your interior like that.
It helps when you have guys on the outside who
can compress the pocket and clean things up. So I
don't know, Having an edge like Greg Russau with crazy
length who can clean things up a little bit. Having
an edge like Joey Bosa who's great at reading quarterback
angles and depths of their drop and being able to

(01:04:00):
adjust his rush angle or go through offensive tackles to
put them into that drop, that helps a little bit.
Having guys who can play the edge spots cerebrally, I
think helps a little bit. Having a guy like Michael
Hoyt again who can stunt and dip and do all
these different kinds of things, it kind of balances out
a little and helps a bit. I do wish Harmon

(01:04:20):
finished more, but I will take a disruptor and he
does play the run waitch helps and he's also a
really great character guy from what I've heard from people,
so that's a good piece as well. Luke says, do
you lock in an edge at pick thirty if it's
Green from Marshall or Schamar Stewart from A and M.
I haven't watched Mike Green yet. I haven't watched samar

(01:04:42):
Stewart yet. I'm still finishing my stuff on the Texas
A and M boys, both him and Nick Scrton. Green
Green for me and part of the reason I got
to him like later. I just think he's such an
outlier for what the bill's like at edge, and I'm
gonna talk about it in a minute. His size and
his play style is it is an outlier, and I'm

(01:05:03):
gonna juxtapose it with a guy that fits kind of
what they've done from an archetype perspective. Oh Ron says,
if Stuart is there at thirty, I'm absolutely gambling on
the trades fair point. Ron says, there's gonna be some
really good dts still available in the third and even
fourth round. That's fair. Jared says, I won't be happy
if I stay up late for us to trade out

(01:05:24):
of the first round again. Oh Man oh Ron says,
let's get Dayne Carter to add twenty pounds of muscle,
maybe he won't get blown into the stands on almost
every running play. I don't think it's just a muscle,
it's his play style. I just I'm gonna keep saying
it all offseason. I'm not out on Dwayne Carter, but
I'm kind of out on Dwayne Carter. Like I think

(01:05:45):
he's at right now. He should be like defensive tackle
four or ideally defensive tackle five like I think they
need right now. They need they need an interior if
like I said last week, they need an interior defensive
lineman that can either bump Daikwon Jones to a rotational
role with Ogunjobi or they they need another high end
rotational guy. So you've got ed daikuon Ogan Jobi and
the rotational guy, and then Dwayne Carter's vive. Like I just,

(01:06:08):
he just got to prove something. And it has nothing
to do with the injury like people like to say, like, oh,
before the risk injury, he was playing good. No he wasn't.
He had some positive flashes against Houston. That was it. Unfortunately,
good conversation. Um boom bum. Let's move on to the
next position of need edge. So that comment that I

(01:06:29):
just read a minute ago regarding Mike Green from Marshall
from a perspective or from that perspective, the Bills archetype
at edge. If there was one edge that could fall
to them at pick thirty that I think with the
Bills would run to the podium and draft, it would
be mikel Williams from Georgia. The length, the strength, the

(01:06:52):
pocket compression, the ability to play the run, all of
that in a package is what the Bills want at edge,
that is, but they have gravitated towards in the past.
Von Miller was an outlier. Javon Solomon was an outlier.
Now what's interesting with that is those are moves in
the past several years, right. Does that indicate they're starting

(01:07:15):
to tweet things a little bit? You know, even Bosa
is more of a move back towards pocket compression. That's
been the biggest thing for them from a past rush perspective.
They want pocket compressors. They're not completely into dip and
bend and athleticism and moves. They want pocket compression guys.
They want you to use a long arm. They want

(01:07:36):
you to bull rush or speed to power, but it's
the power piece that matters. They want you to compress
the pocket all around a quarterback. They don't want dip
and bend and run the arc. They're not looking for
spin moves and all that creativity. They want pocket compressors.
Mikel Williams from Georgia is the archetype in this draft
of what they gravitate towards. Again, it's like right. Ron says,

(01:07:59):
they're we like length at defensive end. That is absolutely right,
And Luke says, although I love the idea of Mike Green,
I'd absolutely take Mikel Williams as well. I'm excited to
see Green's tape. I've heard there's some really great stuff
from a pastor's perpective and like an athleticism and flash perspective.
I've also already gives great effort against the run, so
I'm excited to see him. Why do I think he

(01:08:21):
has some off the field stuff in some way? Maybe
I'm wrong, maybe it's somebody else, but yeah, I'm excited
to watch Green's tape. But yeah, he's Luke says, I
absolutely take Mikel Williams as well. Mikel Williams is the
pro the poster boy for what the Bills want to edge. MIKEL.
Williams is another Greg Russo, that's what the Bills want
to edge. They want pocket compressors, boom, done and dusted.

(01:08:42):
That's it now what I think is interesting again? Like, oh, okay,
so Luke and Joe both he said he does what
does if someone wants to put into the checks? I
don't remember, and somebody told me and I don't remember.
What does Mike Green have? Yeah? And Claude even says
Green will be off the Bills board. I thought it
was something early in his college career, but I don't remember.
Feel free to put it in the chat because I

(01:09:03):
don't remember anybody. I appreciate the detective work. In the chat,
Claude says, just happened upon Elijah Roberts from SMU. I
have not watched Elijah Roberts yet. I know Russell Brown,
who will be joining me in a couple of weeks.
I know he likes Elijah Roberts, but he's in the
next next type of thing? Okay, oh, copy of that.
Pete says we shouldn't type Green's thing, and Rock follow

(01:09:25):
it up with what okay? Fair enough? Then, that makes
me not want to watch the tape because I don't
want to watch that guy. But yeah, fair enough, but
so again from positive perspective, Mike Keil Williams. If you
need to wonder what the Bills archetype is at edge,
it is mikel Williams, it is Greg Russo they want
pocket compressors now, again similar to the defensive tackle piece.

(01:09:46):
It doesn't have to be the biggest guy. You don't
have to have all this size and length. They prefer length.
That is something that they genuinely want. And even as
I go to look at something for Javon Solomon right now,

(01:10:07):
for as small as Javon Solomon was right like smaller height,
lower weight, six feet seven eighths inches for height, two
hundred and forty six pounds for weight. From a percentile standpoint,
that height is literally this zero percentile for height his weight,
he's in the eighth percentile. So he's a smaller dude.
But his arm length at thirty three seven eighth inches

(01:10:29):
puts him in the sixty third percentile, which again isn't
crazy for the Ron says he has spider man arms. Yeah,
but for a guy like you know, sixty third percentile.
It's good length. Having thirty three and seven eighth inches
arms for a guy who's six feet two forty six.
Those are long arms. That's what the bills like. They
like arm length and they like pocket compression. So even

(01:10:50):
though Solomon was an outlier from an overall size heightened
weight perspective, and even from a stylistic perspective, Solomon wasn't
really a pocket compression guy. He had some dip, he
had some bent, He won with moves and plan and
rush repertoire and move transitions. He was a bit of
an outlier stylistically and heighten weight wise, but he ticked

(01:11:14):
that big box for arm length. So they value arm length,
they value pocket compression. Now again, like I mentioned in
the kind of lead into this segment, are they starting
to tweak that a little bit? I think that's very
interesting to kind of see, and I'm interested to see
what kind of edge they gravitate towards based off of that,
because there's a lot there's a lot of depth at

(01:11:34):
defensive line in this draft, on the interior end at edge.
But if you're ranking them based on like archetype fit
for the Bills, you have to put it within the
style and the arm length and overall the same size
kind of plays into it a bit as well. Right,
But can you get somebody who has the arm length
and the style that fits what the bills want? Or

(01:11:55):
are they moving away towards that? Do they want more
dip or bend or edge or edge or actually yeah,
dip or bend at the edge are they looking for?
And I know there's some like attitude stuff with James
Pierce like, but what they consider would they consider somebody
like James Pierce if he's there, or even Donovan as

(01:12:16):
a rock up. He's got the arm length, but he's
more of a dip bend moves guy, right, beautiful ghost
like type of guy off the edge where he can
flash and dip underneath a tackle is throwing their hands
for a punch. He's dipping and going underneath them, flattening
getting to the quarterback. He's not necessarily a compression guy, right,

(01:12:37):
isn't you know, can defend the run, but is more
of just a mercenary and a hunter off the edge.
Right Now, do they look towards somebody like that, you know,
especially early on, or is it more like, hey, we
want land in Jackson, Hey, we want JTT from Ohio State,
or is it you know, hey, Jack Sawyer's got a
great motor and plays the run, but he's got short arms.

(01:12:58):
Do they like do what? Where do they bucket? Where
do they not edge? I think is really interesting because
I just think they they've been bit by mobile quarterbacks
a bit too much on the edge because they've gravitated
more towards pocket compression guys and guys who play the run.
And I do think you need that, especially again with

(01:13:19):
the advent of similar to the interior defensive line conversation.
At edge, you need guys who can play the run.
You need guys who are stout, who can hone their
craft against the run, control their gap, maybe play some
gap in a half maybe two gap, actually not even
maybe you do need the two gap and gap and
a half the times if you're gonna play with those
light boxes, right, But that pass rush aspect I overall

(01:13:44):
in the room, they need more athleticism, they need more juice,
they need more moves. Do they think that, you know,
are Vaughn and Javon Solomon breadcrumbs that lead to something else?
Or are like looking more towards that archetype. I will say,
for as much as I want juice and dip and
athleticism and bend, if mike Kel Williams was sitting there
at thirty, I'll take Mikel Williams like he I don't

(01:14:08):
know how he played with this year with the ankle
injury that he had against Clemson. I said it on
last week's show. I thought his ankle was broken immediately
in that opening game against Clemson, and he played the
whole rest of the year. His numbers were down, his
effectiveness was down because he was essentially playing on one leg.
But even with that, you're watching him just chuck dudes
and play with leverage and length and what he does
when healthy. Coming coming into this past season, in the

(01:14:31):
twenty twenty four season, he was viewed as like a
top five lock and arguably like the best prospect in
this class in a multitude of ways, and then he
got banged up. Abdul Carter just rose like the undertaker,
sitting up out of the casket or in the center
of the ring and took over everything from an edge perspective.
But Mikel Williams is a dude. If he were to fall,
I got no problem with the bills taking him just

(01:14:52):
what he offers and how he fits what they're trying
to do. Again, I would still like Dip and Ben
in athleticism, but I think he's just a good football
player and can and can affect the quarterback in a
multitude of ways from a compression standpoint, given the juice
they have on the inside. And then what he offers
as a run defender, him and groot Man just what

(01:15:12):
Mikel Williams and groot would offer you from a light
box run defense perspective. That's part of it too, Like
the run defense just can't get lost from me. But
again that's the archetype of what they want at Edge, right,
and so that's what makes the conversation so interesting or fun.
With a lot of the names for people is like, okay,
like would Josiah Stewart be there? I see something in

(01:15:35):
the chat I have not watched. I've seen some clips
of David Walker, haven't watched him done the evaluation, but
he will get done before we do. The Edge episode
of the Skuy's coverage coming up in I don't know
how many weeks I have to look at the calendar. Okay,
I keep forgetting everything, but Yeah, when they look towards
someone like a Mike Green, do they look at the
traits of someone like Shamar Stewart. Do they gravitate towards

(01:15:58):
the athleticism and the bend in the past powers of
Donovan az Aroku Or is it more like, no, we
want Landon Jackson, we want jtt Could it be princely
Omami Yellen? You know, is that enough, that combination of
athleticism and compression or is that not enough? Like all
these questions that I think we have to ask about
the edge position that are tied to the archetypes that

(01:16:19):
they've traditionally operated within, gravitated towards, but some little maybe
outliers and bread crumbs that they've had in other ways
that might indicate that they're moving towards someone else or
trying to round out the room a little bit. And then,
of course the backdrop of all of this is do
you think Javon Solomon can be a player? If he is?

(01:16:40):
Is he your athleticism and ben guy right? Then they
do they think they have enough? If not, do they
want more because they already they still think that he's
gonna be factored in the rotation Or is he not.
And then you have Michael Hoyt. How are they gonna
use Hoyt? Are they gonna use them as a traditional
like four you know, four down edge or are they
gonna use them all over the place like the Rams did,
which I think they should and which was very fun.

(01:17:00):
But if they don't, he's violence and compression. It has
some moves off the edge. He's kind of like a
tweeter a little bit. It's it's interesting how they can
change the edge grouping and the interior defensive line in
just one draft class. It will be very interesting to
see what they can do, and even the corner room

(01:17:22):
as well, which is why I really wanted to talk
about these three positions in this episode. They can in
one draft class. Honestly, in the first two rounds, depending
on if they say they take a corner defensive, tack
on an edge at some combination in their first three picks,
they really could go a long way towards significantly changing
how they have viewed each position philosophically, stylistically, and from

(01:17:45):
an archetype standpoint. Or they can stay the course. They
could just look for what they've looked at, you know, value, responsibility,
and assignment sound and reliability a corner over everything else
times a thousand value, pocket compression at edge over everything
else times a thousand value, past rush and penetration on

(01:18:06):
the interior over everything times a thousand, or they could
tweak it a little bit. And I think the tweaks
are potentially so interesting because they do have this mo
at each of these positions, and there are guys in
this class that they could take that are still good
football players, but that fit that MO to a t

(01:18:26):
perfectly and easily. Also guys that could open them up
schematically and help them evolve and adapt, adapt and tweak
and move forward a little bit given the day and
age of the NFL and this nature And yeah, Ron
says are right here. Ron says, this draft is very
exciting because they can make some serious adjustments on defense.

(01:18:47):
I hope they do, because what we've been doing in
the playoffs hasn't been working. And I think that's where
that's where it really comes down to. They've just been
out gunned in the playoff in a variety of ways,
and I think that comes down to two things. I
think it comes down and not having the horses on defense,
not having the athleticism and the juice on defense and

(01:19:10):
or you know, just schematically not having it. But I
think the schematic part is tied to not having the
horses and being outgunned at that spot. Defensively, There's only
so much you can do. There's only so much you
can do schematically when you draft guys that operate in silos.

(01:19:32):
If you don't have versatility within players, if you don't
have versatility in skill set or traits or body type,
there's only so many things you can do. You can't
take certain guys and line them up all over the
place because there you're setting them. You're setting them up
with failure. You can't operate and do all this fun
creative stuff schematically if you don't have the players that

(01:19:53):
can operate in those creative spaces. If you have a
guy who is an outside corner and is only an
outside corner, it can only work in zone. There's only
so many things you can do. If you have an
dresser that doesn't have good change of direction and can't
do anything other than just rush the quarterback, and from
a compression standpoint, there's only so many things you can do.
They can do a lot to kind of and I'm

(01:20:14):
not even saying I don't think saying a lot is
a dramatic statement. What they do in this draft that
CB edge and interior defensive line could significantly lead to
a schematic I don't want to say change because it
technically a tweak is a change, but I think change
evokes more of like wow, like a change type of
thing to the defense. I don't think you're going to

(01:20:36):
get that. I still think you are going to get
what this defense has been from a schematic standpoint, But
they need more variability, They need more variety, They need
more multiplicity, and what the Bills could do with corner
edge and interior defensive line in this draft could go
a significantly long way towards multiple more multiplicity and variability
within this defense. Noah says, I want to hear Jim

(01:21:01):
Nance say, oh Mammy ll end in the playoffs. Mm hmmm.
Where where Pete says, piggybacking on rons common it's not
CB two that we're talking about on that not downplaying
that need. Our D line has been the whole Yeah,
but I think I think corner has also been an
issue because of the athleticism standpoint and not having the horses.

(01:21:24):
I mean even again, some of it's been due to injury.
Right two years ago against the Chiefs, Benford's out, Rasul
Douglas is playing on one leg. The year before they
just for whatever reason, how soft they were against the Bengals,
or the year before, everything kind of blends together for
me a little bit. I think it's both. I think
it's the while they've been built in the secondary, plus

(01:21:45):
the coverages that they've played, and how much the coverages
are tied to the body types and skill sets and
traits that they have in the secondary. And then also
I think it is the defensive line as well. I
think it's been both. I think there's been a disconnect,
there's been more of a divorce between the front and
the back end then there has been a marriage. I
think it's been both. I think, you know, for as
much as the defensive line has been the whole, and

(01:22:07):
that's understandable, pass rush, run defense, all that type of stuff,
I think there's been vulnerability in the secondary that hasn't
been talked about as much because defensive line is more
under the microscope. And even though we focus on corner
line in this episode, I think safety is up there too,
Like who Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer were two seasons ago.
Were not the Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer that helped
put this Bill's defense on the map. They need more

(01:22:29):
athleticism at safety, which is also in need, which is
why if Malachi Starks was there at thirty, I'm still
not a pope man. If Malachi Starks and Trey A.
Most are both there at thirty, the conflict that I
would have in my heart and soul and mind would
be crazy intense. But yeah, I think it's just I
think it's been up front and on the back end,
and I think they're tied to one another. But despite

(01:22:51):
you know, CB two being the biggest need for me,
I do think the defensive line is, from an overall standpoint,
been an issue, especially because you're rotating more bodies in
so that means you need more effectiveness from a multitude
of guys up front. In theory, at corner you just
need two corners, right, injuries obviously not coming into play.

(01:23:13):
But then the defensive line, you need not just four starters,
need like six impact players on your defensive line, and
the Bills have not had that. They haven't had anything
close to that in the past. Several years in any way,
shape or form some event injuries as well. But yet
to your point, Oh, pizza's fair. I do put injuries
in the back end more than personnel, that's fair. I

(01:23:34):
just I've never each year, I've never felt confident, like
even get in that game against the Bengals, even if
it wasn't completely snowy and all the other like wonkiness
with it going into that game. Again, maybe maybe that's
the extreme because Chase and Higgins are an unreal combo,
But how are you how are you covering Chasing and
t Higgins even if they maybe the Super Bowl against

(01:23:56):
Philly is another outlier, but how are you covering DeVonta
Smith and aj Brown and then also stopping the run
like against their ole line against Saquon Barkley, like that
type of deal. And maybe those those teams are outliers
more than they are regularity with their one two combo.
And it's also weird because they've been able to kind
of mitigate actually you know it, but kind of put
this in perspective, right, like they've been able to mitigate

(01:24:19):
Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle, which are a great one
two combo. But Miami has when the games have been close.
Miami's run all over the Bills every single time because
the Bills put resources on the back end. But then
they get outgunned up front. But part of the reason
they get outgunned up front is because they have to
commit more resources on the back end because they don't

(01:24:41):
have the athleticism to stick with Wattle and Hill. Granted,
not a lot of teams do, but it would be
nice to have another guy back there who has athleticism
or some man coverage capability, or some pressibility disruption airspace
constrictor restrictor however you want to put it out there. Again,
I think a lot of it is kind of chicken
and egg, but I think it's fair to kind of
see one more than the other. But you know, I

(01:25:02):
kind of Joe says dt al gay Yep. Claude says,
I want Malachi Starks versus Amos. In fact, I want
to leave this draft with Starks, Watts or Macuba oh Man,
Xavier Watts and Andrew mccoba. Fun fun, fun, fun fun stuff.
Charles says, common denominator versus Mahomes has been pass rush

(01:25:23):
get the elite D line. But you could also play
the other card, right, if you have great secondary play,
man up and send bodies at mahomes, get creative, blitz
the hell out of them, make them get the ball
out quickly, and try and force the lack of receiving
talent that they've had at times to beat your corners.
He can kind of play both. I do again. Either way,
I think they need to upgrade. I think they need

(01:25:44):
upgrades and tweaks from an archetype perspective and from a
talent perspective on both the D line and the corner spot,
like what we're talking about. Luke says, give me all
the Texas boys, Baron mccuba and Bond. I have to finish.
I have to. I have to get to the tape on.
I was super high on Bond coming out of Bama
a couple of years ago, and then he went to
Texas and I was like, Oh, this is gonna be sweet,
and we just didn't get it. This is this is

(01:26:07):
Noah says, knowing being we will center around Hunter Wold
or at safety. I tell you what, I haven't watched
his tape in season. I watched a bunch of Wisconsin
because I like Hunter Wold. I don't think he has
the athleticism, but that's a fair comment. But he can
he does some fun stuff there, but maybe it's just
me gravitating towards certain pieces of his game. Josh says,

(01:26:27):
being will go get his guy, and I think he
wants a star at defensive line, whether that's edge edge
or pass rushing interior defensive lineman.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Josh also says, I do think CB two is a
huge need. But they could bring back Rasool for likely
quote unquote cheap or try to upgrade and roll the
dice with a sante Samuel Junior. I would take that
every single day of the week. But I think if
they get to twenty five istion round one, this might
get interesting. I think that's fair to your point, Josh,
And so a couple other people that goes back here,
like if someone like if Baron fell to like twenty

(01:26:58):
three twenty four, Mike kel William is there, like in
the early to mid twenties, do they pull the trigger?
Do they move up a little bit? I think that's interesting.
Charles says, tweener used to be a negative for guys.
Now it's almost a plus to match up with offenses. Yes,
you don't want to have too much variability. You don't
want to take a guy like Isaiah Simmons from Clemson
a couple of years ago, was like, oh man, he

(01:27:19):
can be a safety and a line in an off
ball linebacker and like a slot apex. Oh Man, all
this possibility, and it was like, no, he's just not
fit for anything. Really. Granted, I don't think Arizona did
him a lot of favors. It takes the right system
and team to mold or hone a guy. But yes,
I think you do need more variability. You need more
tweener capability. He doesn't mean like a guy who's fifty

(01:27:41):
to fifty, just more guys that are seventy thirty or
maybe some eighty twenty, not ninety five to five like
a lot of the Bills have been for their times.
Jo says, Billy Bowman will be awesome once he adds
three to four inches to his height. He misses a
crazy amount of tackles, but he plays at a thousand
miles and plays with bad intentions. So part of me

(01:28:02):
loves him and part of me also dislikes him. But
that's fair, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair. Yeah, change
the corner room a little bit, change the defensive line
a little bit. You have the opportunity to do all
three of those, well two of those things what I
just said, but all three at these three positions corner, interior,
defensive line, and edge, and I think their needed. Again,
there are some guys who fit the archetype in this

(01:28:23):
draft that they could go with and it would be
understandable and could still help. But I think if they
buck some trends a little bit from what they've been
traditionally or from an archetype standpoint, as we've had this
conversation in this episode, I think it really could do them.
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(01:30:11):
what we're all about here on this show. Ron says,
thanks at Now I'm hungry. I'm not gonna lie. I
didn't have I had a bigger lunch and didn't really
eat dinner. I'm crazy. I got crazy hungry at like
eight forty five and knew I didn't have time to
eat because the show was starting at nine. I am
now wild hungry, so I'm also upset at myself. Noah
says Kyle Williams getting a lot of hype. He'll be

(01:30:32):
gone before the third round. Oh that's because Jared here
said wide receiver. Maybe check out Jalen Royals or Kylon Williams.
Kyle Williams in a round three or four, but bond
would be okay. Yeah, I've I've dabbled a bit with
Jalen Royals out of Utah State and Kyle Williams from
Washington State. Kyle Williams is a really good release package.
Royals does some fun things with his size and the
inside outside versatility, the yards after the catch, some athleticism,

(01:30:55):
some size. Again, wide receiver is gonna be like probably
the last as position group I look at, just because
I don't see the Bills going for anybody until day three.
Now that I say that, they'll probably take a wide
receiver at thirty and I'll jettison myself to the sun
out of frustration. Well maybe not depending on who it is,
but yet wide receivers coming towards the end I always do.

(01:31:18):
I look at position groups in the draft class as
a whole from not just from a Bill's lens, but
just football and scheme and structure and evaluation. But I
think the way I look at it through a Bill's
lens is by starting with the biggest positions of need
for the Bills. So but heavy majority of my work
right now has come through corner, interior, defensive line, edge safety,

(01:31:41):
and that's been the heavy majority of those four and
then I'll finish everything up as we go forward. Here,
Ron says, who were some days if there were some
wide receivers who can take the top off the defense
on Day three, Ron, I would love to answer that question.
I have not done enough legwork on receiver to answer
your question. At this point, my initial thought coming into
the draft would have been Jaalen Noel from Iowa State,

(01:32:02):
but he's more of a slot. And yeah, Thornton from
Tennessee who just put those are burners guys that I
watch in season that could take the top off from
a from a broadcast perspective. But I gotta dig in
and watch the tape and I'm just not there yet.
Joe said, I said they were gonna take Jack Sawyer
on my show, So it looks like the day two
picks are Sawyer and Higgins oof Man. Sawyer's arms are

(01:32:25):
so short. He ticks the box from like a mentality
and playstyle perspective, but the arms are so short. But
it'll be interesting. Noah says, do you like Sheppard from
Colorado in season? Yeah, he's got some real juice. There
were some fun dudes on Colorado aside from just like
Travis Hunter, and Shephard was one of them. Yeah, some
real good stop startability, short area burst quickness, some long

(01:32:46):
speed as well. How we can factor in just in
the short game and some bubbles and screen game and
a lot of different things. Yeah, I haven't watched them
on tape yet. Again because I'm I haven't gotten the
receiver yet, but from a broadcast, like if he was
a guy noted in season him and oh the guy
on defense number seven whose name I always always forget.

(01:33:07):
He was a dB but kind of played off ball
and did a bunch of fun stuff for them too.
I'll have to look into it and come back on
the next episode. I'm mad at myself, but Ron says,
if we take storyer on day two, I'll be pissed.
He's going to struggle with his non existent length. That's buddy.
Pete says it was way This is spot on from Pete.
He says it was way easier to be into scouting
every position when the Bills needed everything and the offseason

(01:33:29):
started in December. Yeah, with the Bills go. Every week
the Bills go further into the playoffs is another week
that I am behind on off season prep, especially from
a like a college standpoint and prospect standpoint. A lot
of my work comes because I watch so much college
football in season, but broadcast is a lie. So I

(01:33:51):
build my framework out in season because I watched so
much college football, and then I get to the tape
as I can. But yeahs as the bills go further
every year, it gets worse and worse and harder and harder.
But it's a good problem to have thrown up the banner.
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