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every Tuesday, didn't happen this week. Some things when cydeways
for me a little bit last minute and the week
nothing crazy, just things. One of those sideways had to pivot.
So here we are on this Thursday edition of Disguise
Coverage and talking about, as the title states, and as
the episode description states, ranking the Buffalo Bills remaining roster
needs across the board. We had legal tampering last week,

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the first wave of free agency last week, with all
of those things starting to come through in conjunction with
the extensions that we've seen, some of the cuts that
we've seen across the league, some of the re signings
we've seen across the league, and obviously the Bills falling
into several of those categories themselves. The Bills twenty twenty
five rosters starting to significantly take shape, and they have

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operated much in the same way they have the past
couple of years. We had the Bosa splash similar to
what we had with the Von Miller splash a couple
of years ago, but for the most part, this offseason
is and even the Bosa splash is still kind of
operating in the vein of what they do for the
most part every offseason, which is try to plug as
many holes as possible, do what they can to alleviate

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a lot of the stress points on the roster so
they can head into the draft with several needs or
tweaks or upgrades potentially available, but that they will be
able to go with that kind of BPA, that best
player available model, and just let the board come to them,
let the board fall to them. Ron is already in here.
It says, please at speed at cornerback in the draft.
Corner will be a conversation point tonight where it falls

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for me, where it falls for you folks here in
the live chat. We'll see as we start to go forward.
But yeah, this Bill's twenty twenty five rosters started to
take significant shape, given the moves they made to start
free agency, given how the rest of free agency has
fallen across the league, and given how the rest of
this roster looks. So in this episode, I'm going to
be diving into my top three positions of need, ranking

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them from one to three, and then I've got a
couple honorable mentions as well, And through all of this,
the conversation is not just in relation to what the
twenty twenty five season will look like, but really what
it is beyond. I think anytime you can address both
the short and long term, obviously you're going to be
in better shape for yourself as a franchise and as
a team, regardless of what sport that you're in. But

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for the Bills in particular, they've got several positions where
the concern isn't just twenty twenty five, it's potentially twenty
twenty six, twenty twenty seven, and there's a lot of
things that are starting to take shape, and I think
they have an opportunity to address several of those issues.
Some of the holes are larger than others, or twenty
twenty five versus the future, how you rank weigh all

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of those things, and then all putting that within the
perspective and the landscape of several draft targets that I
like at each of these positions of need, particularly on
day one and day two. As we go forward, especially
you know the end of this month, of March. All
throughout the month of April, we will be diving into
more of the draft aspect of its specific targets in general,

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across the board, specific targets throughout through the Bill's lens.
Day one, Day two, Day three targets, round by round targets,
positions of need, all of that. So this is also
a little bit of a draft setting, table setting episode
as well. As we start to go forward here in
this episode of disguised coverage, for those of you playing
at home and joining me live here on this Thursday evening,

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feel free as we go throughout the chat. Some of
you have already done so in the chat up to
this point. Give me your rankings, your thoughts, your concerns.
Who you want? Is there someone out in free agency
that you're still looking for? Is there someone in the
draft you know who's calling your name potentially? What do
you want on day one? What do you want on
day two? What do you want on day three? How
far ahead are you looking? What's your biggest issue with

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the roster now? Anything and everything? Questions, thoughts, comments, concerns.
Whatever you folks got here joining me live, feel free
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anything and everything you folks have, feel free to put
it up into the comments. We will start to bring
things as we go forward. In this episode, wanted to
grab some of Oh appreciate the like that was dropped

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from Everton LVO Kosert concert. I'm probably not pronouncing that
last name right, but I respect you to thank you
very much for dropping the like. Here big Papa Bill saying,
go Bill's Kaya Moury, what's okay, Maury Kya Moury says
the celebration for the upcoming documentary featuring Ray Davis watching
Aunt Joe Marino. Yeah, that was super cool for those
who don't know. I don't know where the picture came from.

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I think it came from Ray Davis's Instagram. It was
sent to me and then tweeted out and I was
tagged in it. But they were doing like a documentary
for Ray Davis, and this picture was, like I guess
in like his living room and he's sitting on the
couch and then there's like a kind of a camera
crew in front of him and up on his TV.
On the man to like above the fireplace is an
episode of Lockdown Bills from yesterday featuring myself and Joe Marino.

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Joe Marino had me on as a guest, and so
I guess Ray Davis is just watching that episode of
Lockdown Bills. So it's it's a picture of Ray Davis
on his couch smiling for the camera with a camera
crew in there, and then up on his TV is
Joe Marino and myself, which is pretty cool. Thank you
for acknowledging that. That was awesome. Just to be new, says,
I'm still waiting for the late night cover one OnlyFans,
hey man, there might be so there might be something

(07:26):
to that little a little this and a little of that.
I don't you know, maybe we'll see it at some point.
Thomas says, I want coverage sacks to be a thing. Again.
That's a huge point with my piece for Corner. I'll
save some of that conversation as we go there. But yeah,
the bills, I think, from a coverage standpoint, need to
do a better job of restricting or constricting airspace. They

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need to do a better job kind of taking away
the freebies, getting into receivers a little bit, getting into
pass catchers a little bit, kind of giving up the
the no cover zones and the hooked the curls and
the flats as much as they have in the past
is starting to bite them a little bit. And then,
you know, especially when you don't necessarily have the horses
up front, and even if you do have the horses
up front, you're still not seeing that marriage. So yeah,

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I think, you know, better coverage overall, but in particular,
tighter coverage, more disruptive type of coverage is something I
would absolutely welcome, Teddy says Aunt. He says, the nicest
guy in Buffalo Sports. I don't know if I'm the
nicest guy in Buffalo Sports, but I appreciate you being here.
Thank you very much for the kind words. K Moore,
He just says, I want I want good players with

(08:30):
dope names, I would be I won't be a post
of that. Thomas says, uh, Oh, I like these, So
he says, Trey Amos, Andrew mccouba, and Noel Williams unless
they do something in free agency. Those are several of
his targets. No Williams and Trey Amos or each corners,
Andrew mccouba, safety from Texas. Oh, I like that, RJ says,
So you all got any of those CB twos left?

(08:51):
Nice Chappelle show reference there, Ron says, Aunt, if Shamar
Stewart fell to thirty, would you want the Bills to
draft him? Do you think Amos will be a first
round pick? Maybe the Bills take him at thirty. So
I'll start with two things. One, I'm still working my
way through Edges, and I'm doing the Texas A and
M boy Schamar Stewart and Nick Scurton in conjunction with

(09:11):
one another. I've just started, so I'm not fully through
in order to speak to Stewart right now, but he
is on my radar. He will be spoken about on
the show or social actually both. So I'm intrigued by
his testing and even some of the stuff I've seen
on film right now, but I'm nowhere in a position
right now to get my full evaluation or thought. Amos
on the other hand, So Trey Amos right now is

(09:33):
my CB four. I really really really like him. I
have a late first round grade on him. My dream
scenario right now. We'll get to it as we go forward.
Here is Trey Amos at thirty or John A. Barn
the corner from Texas. I just don't think Baron's gonna
be there. Do I think Amos will be a first
round pick. I think he could creep into the first round.
I would like it to be the Bills, but even

(09:54):
if it's not, I could see him going like between
the twenty five, Between like twenty five and thirty five.
I really feel like it's a sweet spot for Amos.
I like him a lot. I think different teams might
value different things at corner, but for me, I think
his combine did a lot to you know, long speed
was a question for him. He answered that a bit
with his testing at the combine, and then you put
the tape together. I really really really like him a lot.

(10:16):
I feel very strongly about Trey Amos. Maybe the Bills
take him at thirty. I would very much like it
for the Bills to take him at thirty. I just says, dude,
that's awesome. Now you need Ray Davis in the film.
We're trying. We have another couple things in the works
for the next cover or separate weeks coming up, several
weeks coming up, clubbing already we're on the under ten minutes,

(10:37):
and yes, we got some uh got some things coming
through for them. Daniel says, draft a round one defensive tackle,
Round two CB, Round two second pick, defensive ender edge.
I think that's a decent formula. I'm pretty much on
board with that. I might flip one or two of those.
We'll find out as we start to go forward here.
Argi says he forgot the coverage sacks were of thing
Thomas's third and long hoo. Ron says, CB seems like

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a much dinner position group. Go CEB in the first
and then DT and d E in the second. That's
part of my thinking overall with the draft philosophy again,
which I'm going to get into as we start the
segments here, mainly because I like, I think this like
the defensive tackle tiers, depending on how you have them
tiered like tier two through like four or five or

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even six, depending on any how you have them. Tiered
has legitimate value and depth to it. You can get
a quality starting defensive tackle or a high end like
or a high like you know, defensive tackle three with
those second round picks. EDGE a little less so CB,
I think even a little less so than EDGE. So
this is part of why I want more you know,

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CB in round one. But I'm very agreeable to a
lot of different things. Oh, Daniel says, nice show with
Joe Marin or earlier this week, maybe day. Thank you
very much for checking it out. I always appreciate every
time Joe asked me to come on, so it was
awesome to be able to talk talk some ball with
him about the new free agents, their schematic fits, their
skill sets, all that type of stuff. But I did
you checked it out? Thank you, Daniel, very nice. Ron
says thinks that no, no, thank you, RONI I appreciate

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you being here and asking, Oh God, Charles, why are
you doing this to me? Charles says, if Trey Amos,
Kenneth Grant, and Malachi Starks are on the board, who
you got? Oh boy? Okay, I'll start with this Grant
would be third, just because I think I could also
get I think the drop off between Grant, even though

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Grant is very athletic, especially for his size. I think
the difference between Grant and a defensive tackle I could
get in round two, I think that difference is smaller
than the difference between Amos at thirty and a corner
I can get in round two and Starks at thirty
and a safety I could get in round two. Boy Oh,

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I don't want to be that guy who says tie,
but I feel like I gotta say tie. I really
love Trey Amos and CB spoiler is the biggest need
for me on this roster right now. Starks I just
think is going to be really really really really really good,
but safety isn't the biggest need. I'd probably say Trey
Amos one A, Malachi Starks one B, and then Grant

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would be second, slash quote unquote third. Oh, Charles, you
knew how to put me in a bind early who
this stressed me out in a good way? Good question?
Good question, Franzo says, not going to lie. I wouldn't
be mad if we ended up with Nick m and Warri.
I'm gonna talk about nick em and Warriy in this episode,
so he like where your head's at. Just the tippy
Canoo says the Vikings pick at twenty four. They only

(13:29):
have four picks total. Hypothetically, if we trade up that
far for a player, how much compensation would that take
and for who? I'll start with the who. I think
it would be for a corner, and I thought that
it would be, you know, for John A. Baron if
he fell, or potentially defensive tackle. Maybe Derek Harmon is
still there, and I think Harmon would be a good fit.

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You know, I don't get I don't want to spoil
too much as we go forward, but I think it
would be for you know, a corner they really like,
or a defensive tackle, or an edge that they really like.
Outside chance at wide receiver. I think potentially maybe safety,
but I think it would be for a corner or
a defensive tackle. You say, how much compensation would that take?
I'd have to do like the drive the trade chart calculations,
but my thought would probably be you're moving off from

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thirty to twenty four. Maybe I got to see where
their fourth round picks are. You know what's tough too,
is they don't have a third, so that's what makes
it like money, Like, it's definitely not you're definitely not
doing your first and a second to move up that four,
I prob that far. I'd probably say, you know, pick
thirty and then one of the fourth rounders may be
also a fifth maybe something like that, like maybe multiple

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day three picks because you don't have a three. But
I don't think it will cost it three anyway, So
I'd probably say, like, pick thirty and then one of
the fours and maybe also one of the fives or
the sixes or something like that. A fair question. Royce says,
this is the time of year I start learning about
rookie prospects and folks like you and I don't watch
college football, so I know nothing about the prospects. I
appreciate you, right, thank you very much for having faith
in me as one of the people for you to

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go to when it comes to learning about the college
game and prospects and all that. I appreciate that. Rob
Stot says, I think there's some decent projected round four
corners like Strong and Alexander Good corner double dip candidates.
In my opinion, there is a good uh, some good
double dipping, but that could happen on day three for
the Bills. RJ says, I'm drafting Starks. This is the
question earlier from Charles that I'm drafting Starts and trading
back up to thirty one for Amos. I like that.

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Ron says, I think Starks will be long gone by
pick thirty, but CEB is much greater positional value. I
agree with this on both aspects. I think Starks will
be gone by thirty, and I do think CEB is
the bigger need and positional value. Kay moy says, so
the doub day scenarios, those three are available to Bills,
taking out of them both. Daniel is all in on
his picks. He says Round one Walter Nolan Mississippi, Round

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two Trey Amos miss a Corner from Mississippi, and round
two second pick, round two b JT TWUOI mo Allow
from Ohio State. I never pronounced jtt's last name. I
just always call him JTT because that last name always
gets me. But I think it is Twoe mo Allow, Molo. Yeah,
I think that's it. I was just flobble it, but yeah,

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that's fair. Yeah, JTT does some fun stuff that I
think could fit Sawyer. The short arms either other Ohio
State edgeer. The short arms are a little bit of concern.
But the way he plays the run, his leadership, the athleticism,
I think that's also intriguing. I think JTT would be
more of a scheme fit because of his play style
and size. Al Right, ahright, Thomas is David Walker a

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decent edge sleep pick. I haven't watched his tape yet,
so I can't speak on it. I'm still making my
way through. I've only gone through like the first like
three or four edges right now, I'm deep in defensive
tackle corner, starting with some safety, getting deeper with safety,
and then going through there. Ron says, I seriously doubt

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Amost makes it to pick fifty six and second run. Yeah,
I don't. I don't think he does, which is part
of my wants for him. All right, let's pivot now
to ranking the Buffalo Bill's remaining pass of need and
you know some draft prospects that potentially fill those needs. Again,
for those of you playing at home, let me know
in the chat two things. One, what are your rankings?

(17:11):
Two what you think of mine? You know I'm gonna
do my one. Feel free to put what your top
three are, list them however you want, order them however
you want. As I start to bring up my rankings again,
let me know what you think of my rankings, Let
me know what you think of the college players that
I'm potentially tapping to fill those needs, anything and everything
that's on your mind aside from that, obviously, again, feel
free to put into the comments as well. And again

(17:32):
super chats get priority. And thank you very much to
just the Tippy Canoe for your super chat and for
being here and the good question earlier. I like that
kind of set, in the set, in the tone there.
Arthur says, do you know if Larry Okunjoey signed yet?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I believe he has because they had the presser and
did all that stuff. Jonas says, Hey, what do you
think about Grant versus Harmon versus Nolan in terms of
fit for the Bills defense? Harmon is a very good fit.
So if we're just talking about fit, it would be Harmon.
Second best fit is probably Nolan, but I like him
less than Grant. If we're just talking about peer like

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archetypeal fit from the Bills, it's Harmon Nolan, Grant. If
you're talking about what I like individually, it'd be a
horror for the Bills. It'd be harmon Grant. Nolan. I
do like Granted, just have some concerns from a pass
Rush perspective and just the overall fit. But yeah, that's
kind of where we'll go. Nolan is a bit weird,
Walter Nolan kind of you know more I think, more

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traits and upside than he is finished product, which is fine,
but then you know, goes off script a little bit
from time to time. Sometimes is just kind of playing
all over the place, and it's more of a bulletin
in a china shop than anything. But there is some
promise there, Ron says Alexander. I'm sure you're assuming you're
referencing Darius Alexander. We will be getting to We will

(18:49):
be getting to him, all right. So let's start with
my number one here, ranking the Buffalo Bills positions of need.
I'm gonna start with my number one, and if you
are a listener of the show or a follower of
myself on any of the socials, I feel like you
should know what this number one is going to be. Now.
Number one is corner I think just looking at this

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group right now for twenty twenty five, and then even
beyond right but even just keep it in a vacuum
at twenty twenty five, you do not have your CB
two for twenty twenty five on the roster right now
for the Bills. I don't think this is a novel concept.
I don't think I'm breaking ground with anything revelatory here
with my statement you don't have your CB two on
the roster for twenty twenty five right now. You're looking
at Christian Benford, bona fide, legitimate starter CB one boom

(19:32):
good cool. After that, you've got Dan Jackson, JaMarcus Ingram,
and Dike One Hardy, who I thought had some nice
flashes in camp last year I thought had some really
nice flashes, even better flashes than camp in the scrimmage
and then also flashed in the preseason. He was a
surprise cut, came back I was on the practice squad
for the year. Maybe an outside shot at him making

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some noise, But right now I think you're looking at
this group and you've got again bona fide number one
in Christian Benford, Daan Jackson, JaMarcus Ingram. I think Dane
Jackson is a very fine CB three. I tell me
more of a CB four, But I think he's a
fine CB three because of the high floor he presents
and is fit within the system. I think he's a
dude that I don't mind starting if you're in a

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pinch or if you've got some injuries. A guy who
can start for a couple of years something like that, right,
And these corners also that I'm mentioning are from an
outside perspective. I'm not counting Cam Lewis, I'm not counting
Taron Johnson. I'm not counting Brandon Condricton, who's more of
I guess he's outside, but he's more of a returner
than anything. And a guy who's gonna play corner and
mop up duty or games are kind of done. So

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I'm counting kind of the main guys that are in
actual outside CB territory here. So if we're sitting there
right now again, Christian Benferd, Daane Jackson, JaMarcus Ingram, and
Daiquon Hardy and we are talking the biggest need on
this team. For me, it is corner because you have
two starters and you're down one right now, So fifty
percent of your starters at corner right now, at outside corner,

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you are missing that, and I don't think Dane is
fit for it. I like JaMarcus Ingram did in the
preseason and even a bit in the season when Taron
Johnson went out and you had JaMarcus Ingram kind of
doing some dime he was. He was in the dime
looks against Arizona in the first couple of weeks. I
thought he had some nice moments, and he gain a
lot of nice moments in preseason. I like his inside
outside versatility. I actually like him more at nickel than

(21:18):
I do outside, but he played adequately even more so
adequately at outside corner. You just I'm not ready to
sit there and say JaMarcus Ingram could be CB two.
I don't think Dan Jackson is CB two. Again, I
think Dane is CB three, like CB three and a half.
But in this system, in this team, I think he's
fine as your CB three. You need a starter. So

(21:41):
corner at pick thirty is my top want and top
need for this Bills team right now.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
We talked about several of them. If I'm just looking
at pick thirty right now, for me, it's Trey amos
Or's John A. Baron so Trey amos corner mim Misissippi.
JOHNY Baron corner from Texas a little bit different for
both of them. Baron, just what he does as a
tackler and what he does from a schematic versatility standpoint,
I think is so intriguing. I think you could do

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some dime linebacker stuff with him. You could drop him
in the hook, the curls, you can blitz him from
the slot. You can blitz him as like an off
ball linebacker like he does all this fun schematic stuff
at Texas that I think I want more schematic versatility
and variability within this defense. Michael Hoyt was a step
in that direction. I think John A. Barron could be
a step in that direction. And even even if he's not,

(22:27):
say they just want to keep him at outside corner.
I think he can play outside corner very well. Where
going to someone just my evaluation notes here, good zone eyes,
he reads routes and the QB's eyes well, he triggers appropriately,
good short area burst and quickness. Good ball skills. You know,
he's got good hands. He's able to punch rip through
opponents' hands. He's tenacious again, He's got that alignment, versatility, zone,

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good zone and spatial awareness. He's smooth and smart in coverage.
He's able to fall off and collect guys from the
route distribution and route concepts based on whatever zone coverage
he's playing. And then you can play some catchman, you
can play some scoos because he's got some physical ability,
he's got some athleticism. I like how we just he
plays the game smart while still being responsible in his

(23:13):
zone and in his assignments. And then the physical ability,
the tenacity, everything that he plays with and the schematic
possibility is what really intrigues me by him with him
now again, even if they don't do all that schematic stuff, right,
I'm okay with him just being an outside corner because
of how he plays the game. The quickness, the recognition,
the short area burst, the trigger, the speed, the athleticism,

(23:34):
the physicality. You don't have to worry about him fitting
the run like he can fit the run outside as
a forced player. He can also come in and kind
of like fit the run in like a B gap
or a C gap type of deal, depending on what
you got from you know, bodies on the line and
what type of surface you're running. He's just a really
fun player. Trey Amos on the you know, on the
on the other hand, just a very good press corner.

(23:58):
We talked about again restricting space if you are the
bill secondary, and I think Trey Amos is a big
move in that regard. He's comfortable and effective in press coverage,
both soft shoe and true. When I say soft shoe,
I mean more of a mirroring type of corner right
where you're a mirroring type of press also, and I
say this every year, but I always like to make
sure I qualify or quantify it or clarify it. Oh,

(24:21):
falling apart already. Just because you're in press doesn't mean
you're necessarily jamming. Press is just the idea of being
aligned like inside your man, like right like into his kitchen,
closing that airspace right off the line. He's on the line.
You're on the line with him, right. Soft shoe press
off of that is you're pressing, but you're using more
of your feet and body position. You're mirroring kind of

(24:43):
what the what the wide receiver is doing. True press
is your jam so the ball is snap, you're getting
hands on you know, ideally it's one. Some guys will
go with two. I don't necessarily like two hand jams
because it locks your hips and if you're if you're
off slightly, you can get beat easily. Inside outside around
the top can be a problem. So true press is
that jam, and a soft shoe is more of that

(25:06):
mirroring type of press. Amos is comfortable and effective in both.
He does do more soft shoe than true. I would
actually like to see more true, more physicality from him
in general, very adept at passing off and collecting guys
from the route distribution. You will watch him, you know,
carry his guy in zone. You know. For example, say
say you got a three by one and he's to

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the single receiver side right. So say he's lined up
on the single receiver and on the other side of
the field, there's three receivers on a snap his man,
so there's only one receiver to his side. Say he
runs a drag right so and say it's cover three,
so he's dropping in his zone. So Amos drops into
his deep third. His man isn't threatening him at all.
He ran a drag, He's going to the other side

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of the field. He immediately will get his eyes to
the trip side and look to see who's coming across field.
Can he pick up a post? Can he pick up
a crosser? Can he pick up an inbreaker? That type
of ability to just fall off and then collect carry guys,
deliver them, fall off, collect That type of ability he
displays regularly in traditional spot drop zone coverages. He's got

(26:12):
some matchability, He's got some man coverage ability, real nice
system transference from ole Miss to the Bills, really good
zone and spatial awareness. He's able to locate the ball
and make plays on it, or he can read the
wide receiver's hands and punch through accordingly. Some catchman coverage,
good bail technique, some true press, soft shoe, some offman.

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I had questions about his change of direction and long speed,
but the combine really went a long way towards easing
both of those. He's a smooth strider. I would like
him to be even more physical than he is. He
is somewhat physical, He's not overly gravy, which is nice
to see, and guys who are operate and press and
operate with some physicality, and overall he's just able to
stay in phase to a combination of footwork and arm length.

(26:54):
He's got good feet, he's got good hand usage and
hand technique, and his ability to kind of stay in
phase and attached to I really like for him, and
so those are my top two picks at thirty. If
we're talking corner, I wouldn't hate Maxwell Harston Corner out
of Kentucky because of the speed and the athleticism what
he brings. I have some questions about his tackling ability,

(27:17):
as I think a lot of people do. He's willing,
but he's just a poor tackler, you know, angles and
decisions and run support. As far as being a fit,
real run fit player or a forced player, it's questionable.
And then you add in the smaller frame and stature,
it's just a little worrisome. But the short area burst,
the quickness, the speed he's got, the type of speed
where if he gets fooled, like he thinks you're running
a vertical up the sideline and you cut it back

(27:38):
in and run a post and he's completely fooled. He
can you just do a quick speed turn and he's
right back on you because how fast he is. And
I think he would be a fun a fun fit.
I don't love him at thirty. I wouldn't be opposed
to him at thirty. It's just you know that need
is there. But I would prefer him more in the
kind of the round two type of range. I don't

(27:58):
think he gets there at a round two. So that's
kind of where where that gets in there. A little
bit from a muddy perspective, go some comments, comments from
some folks. Yeah, a lot of things we already addressed.
Noah says he likes Darian Porter, but he's the same
age as Kyrie elam H. I thought he was two

(28:20):
years younger. I like Porter. The slight frame bothers me somewhat.
He's another one where I think kind of the the tackling,
I wonder even just as a forced player, like he's willing,
but the lankness and the smaller frame kind of does
him in a little bit. But good spatial awareness, good
press man corner. You know you're looking at another guy
with some length and some size to kind of restrict airspace.

(28:41):
He's a move in that direction, so is not. You
can try to pronounce his first name, is I always
butcher it so is Thomas the corner from Florida State
pressman length size, good fluidity for that length and that size.
Willing tackler, but again not the most sound or physical,
really good trail technique. He's able to create a collision
point that he rides the hip he can be he

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can stay better connected on breaks with wide receivers. But
he's another guy that, you know, the type of guy
that I would target in round two because of the length,
the fluidity, the press capability, and his athleticism being tied
to it as well. I think it gives you a
lot of options in that regard. Well, Michael James says,

(29:25):
how much draft capital would you burn to secure john A?
Barn for example? Would you use next year's round one
to draft will Johnson be a move up to the
early tens this year? Ooh, that's tough. So my willingness
to how much draft capital I burn to secure Baron
is tied to how much Amos is still there. So say,
like Baron is still there in the early to mid twenties,

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I'm looking to trade up, But if Amos is still there,
I'm just sitting there at thirty and I'm hoping one
of those two guys are there at thirty. As far
as draft capital, I have no problem trading multiple Day
three picks to move up for Baron because how much
I like him and how good I think he is.
The Johnson one. Oh, would you use next year's Round
one to draft Will Johnson via move up? No, because

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I'm comfortable staying at thirty and getting Trey Amos and
not having to burn next year's one. But I do
like Will Johnson, I mean, and also poor Will Johnson
just has the unfortunate piece of being in the same
draft as Travis Hunter. Otherwise he'd be a really good
corner one. Just a lot of professional aspect, size, frame,
the way he plays the game. Had a bit of
a down year this past year, but I mean, man,

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the type of professional defense he comes from. I don't
think I know. I wouldn't trade next year's one to
move up into the early tens to get Johnson just
because of the other corners that I think will be
there at thirty. But yeah, people mentioned no Williams, Frasier,
some sleepers at corner. Yeah, there's a lot of fun names,

(30:52):
a lot of fun names. Pop says he's late to
the party. Appreciate your pops. All Ron says, I'd love
to get Amos Trey why with more speed. That's actually
kind of fair. Oh, hy dom Dom joining the chat.
What's up? Down, appreciate you being here, Don Making for
stopping in What's up? But but Noah says, I will
wait to get Caleb downs next year. A safety man,
you're gonna have to need like you're gonna have to
be like a top five pick to get Caleb downs.

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He's he's gonna go hide to get downs. Is so
nasty from a physicality perspective, from a tool's trace perspective,
a coverage perspective, a mentality man like man, Noah says,
McDermott seems like a Maxwell Harriston guy. There are some
things I've heard, some off the field things about Maxwell
Harriston that I think, might I just remember this that

(31:36):
might knock him maybe out from the Bills from an
off the field standpoint, I don't know if they're confirmed
or not, but not great maybe, But we'll see, but
we'll see, but we'll see, but we'll see. Oh good
coming here from Charles, and I'll move on to my
next one. Charles says, considering where the Bills are, do

(31:56):
you think they go for players ready to contribute immediately?
Versus swinging for upside they have to develop, good question.
I think it depends on the position. I think if
you're looking at a corner, it's got to be somebody
who can contribute immediately because you need a CB two.
If it's a defensive tackle, I think they're okay with
ed Oliver, Daikwon Jones, LARRYO, and Joby and then letting

(32:16):
you know a rookie defensive tackle develop to become defensive
tackle three or two next year or the year after.
Similar with Etch. I think it depends on the position.
So really, honestly, a lot of the positions that they
can go for I think could be guys that they
have to develop. Corner is the big one where it's
got to be somebody ready to contribute immediately. If you're
taking a corner, like now you're the first corner that

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you take in this draft, has to be somebody that's
ready to step in and contribute immediately as a CB two.
It can't be like, oh, yeah, this guy could be
CB two next year the year after. You do need
a CB two next year, but you need one right now,
and especially to even Benford, like it's not a guarantee
that Benford gets extended or resigns, maybe the franchise tag them.
You never know what can happen. Maybe you need a
CB one next year. So I think for corner, I

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think they'll go for somebody who's ready to contribute immediately.
For other positions, I think they would potentially swing for
upside at edge or you know, interior defensive line for example,
or even wide receiver, because those guys don't need to
contribute now or contribute right away. Thomas is talking about
Angel mccoobaugh again. I'm going to talk about Ange mccomba

(33:21):
a bit. All right, let's move on to the next
position of need here for myself and for the Bills
in my estimation, interior defensive line. And I want to
phrase this kind of where Framan I should say within
several thoughts for me here, you know, we're looking at
the interior defensive line right now and under contract, you're
looking at Ed Oliver Daikwon, Jones, Larry Ogunjobi, Dwayne Carter,

(33:45):
Zion log Branson, Dean Logan, Dean more practice squad guys
haven't really been regular lineup contributors. The top four half
at Oliver Daikon Jones, what we expect from Larry Ogunjobi
and then Dwayne Carter. The reason interior defense of line
is number two for me against centers around several thoughts
that I have. First, I'm not completely ready to move

(34:06):
on from Dwayne Carter, but at this present time, I
think he's best suited to be defensive tackle five, defensive
tackle four at the absolute highest. But I think that's
more of If you're in a pinch, and if I
gotta stop because we've got a super chat. Thank you
for being here, Tom, I think you for the super chat.
Dom says, and who would win to cover one battle

(34:27):
Royal and the Octagon between you, Eric, Aaron and Greg
And he says, no weapons. Probably Eric. You know, you
know what Eric does for a living. So Eric, I'm
just gonna I'll put all my money down on Eric. Second,
is interesting because I think you've got different different skill

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sets amongst everyone that's left. But if you're just asking
who would win it, it's Eric. You know, the background,
the training, I think he's got it. The shape that
he's in, I feel like he's got that locked. I
would say Eric, he's just probably way more technically sound
in the octagon than any of us. Good question. I
like it.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I like it. I like it.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Thank you domb So I lost my trade. I thought
that was funny. Yeah, so, I'm not completely ready to
move on from Duane Carter right now. I think he's
best suited for defensive tackle five. What you got for
him last year from him last year is and this
is even I see a couple comments talking about, you know,
Carter playing before he got injured or the wrist injury.

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For me, even before the risk injury, he was almost
non existent on the field. I know he had a
couple of nice flashes against the Texans, a couple of
nice flashes on like a third or fourth down maybe
towards the middle of the year, but the majority of
the season he was getting blown off the ball against
the run and having very minimal impact from a pass
rush productivity standpoint. I think his past productivity was somewhere
in the low fours. The low to mid fours was

(35:50):
it was one of the worst on the team Greta.
They didn't have a lot of good passer's productivity from
the interior, one of the worst in the league. Just
very minimal from a pass rush perspective, and the run
defense was a problem, constantly getting blown off the ball, vertically,
horizontally getting pushed out of his gap. There wasn't any
an There wasn't there was minimal anchoring, there was minimal
splitting of double teams. So I'm again I'm not completely out.

(36:12):
I always think you need to give guys a couple
of years at lead, usually for me, three years to
kind of acclimate to the league until you really make
a concrete decision on a prospect or a player. But
right now I'm not out on Carter, but I'm very
skeptical of what he can contribute as far as a
meaningful snap or meaningful rotation piece. So I think he's
best suited to be a defensive tackle five. He could

(36:33):
be a defensive tackle four if your top three or studs,
which I don't think that's where the Bills are right now,
So I think he's best suited for more of a
defensive tackle five defensive tackle four at the absolute highest.
Daikwon Jones, I think he's best suited to be defensive
tackle three or defensive tackle four, depending on how you
wanted to find the rotation and what you're doing. Larry Ogunjobi,
I think he can play some one tech for the

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Bills given their system an archetype inside, but I think
he's better and or suited for a three tech role.
So if you take all that insummation for me, that
means you need a starter opposite of Ed Oliver. I
think you need Ed Oliver a starter next to him.
And then Daikwon Jones and Larry Ogunjobi is your three

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and your four or your four and your three however
you want to label him, I don't care. And then
Dwayne Carter is the fifth, which means you need to
invest in a defensive tackle in either round one or
round two because you don't have any third round picks. Again,
like we talked about earlier, I do think there is
an opportunity to still get guys in round two at
those picks. What is a fifty five to fifty six

(37:37):
and sixty two or whatever it is in round two,
I do think you can get a quality defensive tackle
at that spot, somebody who could potentially start next to
Ed Oliver or be a high end three as a
rookie and potentially develop into more. So that's somewhat good news.
But again I do think you ideally need a starter
or another high end rotational guy. It doesn't mean I'm

(37:59):
out on Dwayne Carter. Just think with where Daikwon Jones
is right now with where again Lariyogen Jobi's a free
agent at this time next year, so you potentially have
to bring in another guy next year, And then you
have the Carter questions. I think you need an answer
right now for twenty twenty five, but you also need
to set yourself up for success for twenty twenty six
and beyond. So that being said, at PIC thirty, I

(38:20):
would love Derek Harmon. I don't think Harmon's gonna be there.
I think Harmon really fits what they want from a
run defense and from a pass rush perspective and all
of this. You know I should have said this first.
Within all of this, right you, you have to remember
what the bills like on the interior. Even like their
bigger bodied one techs are usually more, they're not necessarily

(38:42):
space eaters or pluggers. Starlotte Tulalay was strong, wasn't a
massive He was a massive man, but not necessarily from
an interior defensive line standpoint. Even Daikwon Jones. Daikwon Jones
another guy that they like archetype for what they want
as of somebody to play next to Ed to play
in that one tech role. He's slimmed down from what
he was before the Bills. His playing weight was between
like around three oh seven to three ten. So that's

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the type of like big body they're looking at one tech.
They're not looking at guys who were three twenty plus
or three fifteen plus. Maybe they will if there's some
sort of athletic freak who also has pass rush upside,
but they don't want just a plugger. They don't want
if you needed, you know, evidence of that. They were
still going with Jordan Phillips and Quentin Jefferson last year,
even though they were getting blown off the ball and
were largely ineffective overall. They were going with both those

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guys versus Ilianku who was stout versus the run and
offered you some plugger and space eating type of body
eating type of capability. You need to be able to
rush the passer. You need to be able to one
gap penetrate and get up field. So if you're looking
at a one tech, that's what you have to keep
in mind. Like Tomandre Sweat, I don't necessarily think is
going to be on their radar guys like that, so

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they might change a little bit them, you know, bringing
in Lake Laky folkdo from the Jets previously, of the
Cardinals before that for a visit is interesting because he's
not an upfield juice kind of guy. He's more of
a you know, a truer type of one. Tech doesn't
really fit what they've done in the past. So maybe
it's an indication that they're considering changing their archetype or

(40:10):
their body types on the inside. But anybody that starts
opposite of ED, you still have to look within the
And for me, this is I'm saying this myself as well.
I want somebody who can limit displacement. I want somebody
who can split double teams or anchor against them, gum
up the works, will not get driven off the ball
vertically or horizontally versus individual base blocks or versus double teams.

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So I want somebody that skews more towards run defense.
I don't want it gone completely. I would like somebody
who's more maybe sixty forty run defense or sixty five
to thirty five at most. I think they're looking at
the opposite. They want somebody who's more sixty forty pass
rush or a maybe even fifty five to forty five
pass rush. Actually no, probably further sixty five to thirty five,
maybe seventy thirty pass rush. To run defense, they want penetrators.

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Larry Ogunjobi is a good example, like he'll battle, but
he'll get displaced. He's guys are going to get under
his pads and drive him off the ball. But what
does he give you. He's a gap shooter, he's a penetrator,
he's a havoc and disruptor. He's a have a causer
and a disruptor. That's what they want on the interior,
So that all has to be framed within everything right.
So that being said, I think Derek Harmon is probably
the best fit from a run defense and pass rush

(41:17):
standpoint and a known quantity. I don't think he's going
to be there at thirty, but at thirty I'm looking
at someone like Harmon. And I forgot who mentioned it earlier.
I really came along on Darius Alexander's tape from Toledo. Again,
I think Harmon will be gone. Alexander would probably be
my defensive tackle pick at pick thirty. I prefer him
in round two. I thought initially there was a chance

(41:39):
he would be there at pick fifty six. I don't
think he's going to be there now, which is why
I'd be fine if they took him at thirty. His athleticism,
the past rush ability. I'm going to find my notes
on him now. The athleticism, the pass rush ability. He
does play high at times, but he was He was

(42:00):
better at recognizing blocking schemes than I thought. I do
think he needs to be improved here. He'll get caught
off guard from time to time, but he was better
than I thought. And I do think he needs better
pass us transitions and or moves and plan. He'll stall
out a bit more often than you like, and I
think that ties into him playing high at times, which
is understandable given his frame and how big he is.
But the long arms and his play against double teams

(42:24):
is something that really intrigued me, specifically the game against
Mississippi State. Being able to regularly drop the knee versus
double teams. That takes the technique and the execution and
the functional play strength, but it also means you have
to recognize that the double team is coming and being
able to adjust, so being able to drop the knee
or anchor and hold his ground like if he's not
seen it, but being able to dig his feet in

(42:45):
and play with lean and leverage and use that length
and not get blown off the ball. That really brought
me around on him. His ability to just hold his
ground in defeat blocks, and then when he stays low,
his length and strength make him very hard to move.
I think he would be a good fit for what
the bill want it, you know, quote unquote one tech.
I still think there's a chance he could be there
in the second round, but I wouldn't be opposed to

(43:06):
him at pick thirty. And another defensive tackle who I
really like is TYLERK Williams from Ohio State. There's really several,
there's so many. TYLERK Williams from Ohio State. I think
he's more of an early down player. There's not a
lot of pass rush juice for TYLERK Williams, but he
is explosive and powerful at the point of attack. So
not only can he eat double teams, limit displacement, throw

(43:28):
guys around, drop the knee, you know, block recognition, all
that stuff versus the run, but he has enough juice
and power to knock back offensive lineman and compromise the pocket.
I think he has more athleticism that he gets credit
for despite being more of an early down player. He's
got good lateral legility and explosion, strong hands, functional strength.
He's a gap controller who's able to anchor and withstand

(43:49):
blocks from a multitude of ways. I think he plays
with good pad level on the line. You watch him
get underneath offensive linemen that are smaller than him. He
can read the running backs tracks while engaged. He's able
to multi gap. He rarely gets displaced. The biggest thing again,
he's not filled with a ton of moves, right, You're
not seeing a ton of like, oh, watch this cross chop,
watch this club rip, like look everything that he's doing.
He's more of just if he's going to get some

(44:11):
pass rush, it's with some lateral agility. Well, maybe a
quick arm over or a quick dip in rip, not
necessarily dip, but maybe a little bit, but just more
club rip, or he's driving somebody back into the pocket.
I think he's more of a two down player, but
you could develop him potentially a bit as a pass
rusher with some moves in plan. And even if not,
I'll take a guy who's just hard to move against

(44:31):
the run, but has enough juice and athleticism to drive
guys into the backfield. Also in that mold, I've seen
him mentioned a couple times here. Alfred Collins from Texas
really good against the run. A textbook taxtbook stack and
shed defensive tackle. The hand placement, the extension, the violence
and the pop, the peak and just chucking guys down

(44:52):
holds his ground, limits displacement anchors versus double teams. He
can torque guys to the ground while keeping his grip
locked into blockers, just power, leverage and strength inside, able
to read running backs tracks while engaged. His eighty five
inch wingspan is the second largest for any defensive tackle
measured at the Combine in the last three years, and
his arm length is the seventh largest. The issue with

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him is there's no pass rush game really to speak of,
even less so than TYLERK. Williams. Williams at least gives
you more explosion and more juice to drive guys back.
There's even less of that with Alfred Collins. Like Collins
is more of a pure two down player, and I
don't think there's much to come from a pass rush

(45:39):
upside with him, which makes me think he's more limited
for the Bills. But somebody that I would be comfortable
taking with in round two because he's a rotational body.
If you again, I want to starter opposite of Ed.
But if it comes down to it's Eddai Kwon, Ogen
Joby and Alfred Collins, I like that and I'm okay
with that. I would rather Ed, TYLERK Williams, Larry Ogunjoby,

(46:02):
Daequon Jones. But that's kind of my thought there for Collins.
And you know, I see Thomas saying Collins actually started
a DM for what it's worth. Yeah, but he's got
a lot of interior defensive line snaps there. There are
times where they'll kick him out in like a four
I on the inside shade of the tackle or a
four right on him where you know, kick him out
as a five. But the majority of his snaps that
I saw, he's playing defensive tackle. He's in the A

(46:23):
gap or he's in that B gap, you know, kind
of one tech three tech type of role. So a
lot of what I watched from him was pure defensive
tackle type of stuff. And even so, like either way,
whether he's playing defensive end where he's playing tackle whatever.
The pass rush game just is not present in his game. Now.
Maybe it could be maybe something clicks or he gets

(46:43):
you know, some right, the right coach or right team
gets their hooks in him, and he goes from there.
But I'm not there with him at that point. But
I do like him as a run defender in terms
of the physicality and the displacement limitation in a positive
way for him on the interior. So that's why he's
a big one for me. I wanted to go back
to Lucas says, who's your favorite? Who's your favorite round

(47:04):
two detackle Tyler Williams. I really like his game, even
to the point that even though he's more of a
two down player, I would oh, gotcha, Thomas with your
freshman year comment, Thomas, I see you. Appreciate you. Uh,
Lucas who say who's your favorite? Second round defensive tackle
Tyler Williams. Again, even to the point that if the
Bills took him at thirty, even though he's more of

(47:25):
a two down player, I don't think they take him
at thirty. I still do think they want more of
a true like a guy who can have an impact
on all three downs, but it would be Tyler Williams
because of his ability to play the run from a physicality,
skill set, size, traits, tools perspective, but also from a
block recognition and play recognition standpoint, it's really strong. And
then the athleticism and the juice. I think he can

(47:46):
do enough to kind of knock guys back into the pocket,
drive them back a little bit, So there is some
some upside now and then maybe potentially going forward in
the future. So it would probably be Tyler Williams. Pop says,
what's the deal on Dion Walker? His size seems crazy, man,

(48:06):
He just doesn't move well physically. Defensive tackle from Kentucky
an absolute mountain of a man. It just it pains
me to watch him move like it's just not You
just don't see the athleticism that you need to see.
And even within that, it's like, Okay, he's not the
most athletics, so he's got to be this physical, just
monster and he's not. For how big he is. I

(48:27):
feel like his base isn't the most solid, so his
impact is very up and down, and I just think
there's very little movement capability. I don't think he's a
fit for the Bills defense. His size is very wild.
You know, maybe someone gets to slim down a bit,
maybe somebody uses them in an odd front and just
plops them down in the middle of the defense and
lets him just sit and anchor. But even the anchor
isn't like amazing. I just think the size mixed with

(48:50):
the skill set and frame and stuff isn't isn't the
most ideal. Charles says, why do you hate CJ. West?
I actually like CJ. West from Indiana. There was some
really good aspects on tape. He's a guy that I'm
looking at like I look at it day on day three,
not even round three, but like day three, because I'm
not taking him in round two. If he's there in

(49:10):
round four, I would really like that. The quickness and
athleticism for his size. He does play a little high
versus the run. He's another guy who will stall out
as a pass rusher if he doesn't win initially. But
he's got good active hands, he's got a good swipe,
you know, chops he'll shed. He's looking to kind of
you know, wax on wax off as much as he can.
You know, he's trying to chop and move. I do

(49:30):
think he needs better block recognition, but he's able to
pinball back after again initially double or displaced by double teams.
I'd like to see him drop the knee more in
order to limit displacement, so he will get, you know,
knocked off his spot a bit. But he's good on
games up front as a spiker, as a looper, he'll
run some stunts, gap exchanges. He's a good communicator and
adjuster pre snap for the whole defense and the defensive line.

(49:54):
I just view him. He's a guy that I'd be
very comfortable taken in day three. I see a lot
of the comments there from Jordan Phillips from Maryland. He's
someone who I've tapped into a small amount. I think
he's somebody that probably goes in round three, which means
he might be out for the bills. But I have
to dive in his tape. He's somebody that maybe they
like high enough, or I like high enough where they

(50:15):
go in round two. But right now, that's kind of
where I'm sticking at for my defensive tackles, which is
Derek Carmon, Darius Alexander, and then Tyler Williams and Alfred
Collins kind of varying different levels of effectiveness. Round one,
round two type of guys with that defensive tackle spot.
There was a comment here, Yeah, there we go, there's

(50:38):
some there. Pete says Harmon is their prototype at one Tech.
That is true. Ron says, is Joshua Farmer from Florida
State a fit at one Tech and the Bills system?
Yes he is good, question, he is absolutely bum bum.
Thomas says, I would have thought Nolan would be a
prototype one tech. I think he's more of a kind

(50:59):
of a but a prototype type of three. Like he's
all about peneration, peneration, penetration, juice upfield, gap shooting, like
let him spike, get up field. He's not really a
big you know, let me anchor, let me take on
this double team like you're you're using him on the
snap to move in a multitude of ways, or at
least that's what he was most successful with it. Ole
miss and just giving his play style and how he's built,

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you know, I don't think he's more of a He
could be a one tech in the right defense. Maybe
get him to bulk up and beef up a bit,
but he's not a gather to they're gonna be eating
double teams and anchoring like you want him using his
athleticism in his traits to penetrate in one gap, get
up field and go through people. Charles says CJ. West
Day two. Oh that's where your initial CJ. Wes comment.

(51:44):
I wouldn't be horribly opposed to it, well day two,
Day two, but more like round three. But they don't
have a round three pick, and I don't really want
to take him in round two, but fair uh see,
who hass me about Norman Lot from Tennessee. I watched,
oh literally, I've only watched a handful of snaps the

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game against Oklahoma, I think, and he had some juice.
He had like five pressures on twenty one snaps. But
I haven't finished my evaluation on him, but I'm intrigued
by the juice. We'll see. Pop says, replace replace Phillips
or George Phillips.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Mary asked, why not the Michigan defensive tackle number seventy eight,
So that's Kenneth Grant. I talked about him a little earlier.
I just think, let me pull up my notes. Boom boom,
boom boom. I think he plays a little high, holds
his ground versus the run, but not much as a rusher.
He does have active hands, good athleticism and quickness. He's
very quick for his size. He has juice, but sometimes
those hands can be delayed in terms of his usage.

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He'll let guys get into his body a little bit
too much, and I think that nullifies the athleticism and
juice that he has. Oh yeah, there's my note. It
gets into the body rather than you than using established hands.
Stall out a bit as a rusher. He has a swim,
he has a swipe in a bull rush, but you'll
see him kind of just get stuck and hounded at
the line. I think his block recognition could use some improvement.

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I'll watching him just get picked off left and right.
I caap scheme runs like like trap where his guard
is going by him and he's like, oh sweet, and
here comes the other guy to just you know, hit
him right in his ear hole and drive him down
the line. I feel like there's his moves on the
snap or just him like he's just he was if
he was somebody playing street fighter. It feels like he's

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somebody who's just hitting the buttons. There's not really like
a plan of like, Okay, I'm gonna kick low here,
I'm gonna set this up because I'm gonna do this later.
It just seems like I'm just hit I'm just hitting square,
and then I'm just gonna hit circle a whole bunch.
Then I'll just hit X. Like it just feels like
he's mashing buttons more so than executing a plan or

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executing a a strategic type of move set that he's
using to set guys up or he's using to attack with.
I think the athleticism is there, He's a freak athlete.
How he moves or his size is genuinely impressive. I
would not be opposed to the Bills taking him, but
their development hasn't been the best at that spot, and

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so I look at him more right now as more
of like a run stopper with some athleticism and juice
to them. But if that's the case, I think I
would rather have Tyler Williams in the second than him
at thirty. But I'm not completely opposed, like all the
thoughts and the questions coming from everybody, man, I'm because
it's more the draft is still like a month away,
so I'm not finished with all these position groups. I
feel bad because there's people that are asking questions that

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guys that I'm just not I'm not fully like, I'm
not finished with my Jordan Phillips evaluation. I'm not finished
with several dudes. Is why focus more on like the
day one and take to do guys, because that's where
I've I've started for a lot. But yeah, I see,
I see a lot of thoughts coming in. Chat is
very good and I appreciate you folks. Well done. All right,
I'm gonna move on to my third position of need
for this Bills team, and it comes at Edge. And

(54:53):
I don't know how how everyone feels about Edge right now,
especially with with the Hoyt suspension, But if you're looking
at Ed right now, and I'll explain why, it's it's
my third position in terms of need for this roster.
So you got Greg Orusso you got Hoyt with that
six game suspension looming. Same thing with Logan Joby, and

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then you've got Ajpanessa, Joey Bosa, and Javon Solomon. What
kind of worked my way from the back to the front.
I like Solomon. I like this flashes last year. That
being said, there's no surefire thought for me that he's
ready to be a top four edge this season or
beyond as a whole, say there was no suspension like
all that aside. I like this group as a whole

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unit in twenty twenty five. Right now, I still think
there's questions right for what does Bosa look like? What
does Epanessa look like? What does Hoyt look like? But
I'm comfortable with this grouping. The reason that I'm comfortable,
but it's still you know, the third biggest positional need
for me on this team is for several reasons. One,
you do have Michael Hoyt with that suspension. Two the

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signing of Joey Bosa. Again, so much of it is
tied to how healthy he is, right and what type
of impact you get from him. If he is he
fifty percent? Is he sixty? Is he seventy? Is he
one hundred? Is he ninety? How much run defense does
he play? Because he's a good run defender, But do
you want him doing that? Do you want him more
as just a pass rusher? Is he purely just a
mercenary or a closer? Or is he something else like

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more of a true three down guy like he was
with the Chargers. Do they want him use him that way?
Do they not? All these questions right, But either way,
I don't see Bosa here past this season. He either
for me, I think the two likeliest outcomes are he
has injuries that derail him a bit, and then maybe

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next year is more of an a affordable year. You know,
maybe he's more affordable next year. But then it's like,
do you really want him back because you know the
consistency wasn't there and the impact wasn't there. Or he
stays healthy and balls out, because if he's healthy, he
still can ball out. This is somebody who's still a
very good edge rusher and a very good edge player.
And if he's healthy and balls out, I think he

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cashes in next year for like a two year, thirty
six million dollar contracts something like that. So I don't
see Bosa here past this season. You have Michael Hoyt
with the suspension, Bosa has injury concerns for this year,
and then Ajpanessa is an unrestricted free agent next offseason.
So I think there's questions around the twenty twenty five
group with the suspension and Bosa's health and then I

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think there's also questions long term because I don't think
Bosa stays here after this year, and Ajpanessa's UFA next year.
So you look at this group again right now, Greg Russol,
Michael Hoyt, Ajpanessa, Joey Bosa, Javon Solomon, Say Panessa leaves
next year. Say Bosa leaves next year, and Javon Solomon
just doesn't develop into what you got. You have two
edges on the roster next year. That is not enough

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in any way, shape or form in terms of quality
or quantity. So I think the edge grouping still needs
to be addressed at some point. Now, this one is
kind of of like a murky one. So if we're
looking at thirty, I like don to Donovan Azeraku from
Boston College. The length, the moves, the plan, the fluidity.
He's another guy who I think is just in the

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mold of a mercenary off the edge as a pass rusher.
He knows how to get to the quarterback. Again, somebody
who's got moves and plan and fluidity, precision with his
hand usage. You watch him, you know, with his cross
shops or even you know, chopping wrists to disengage blockers.
And it is precise. There's no like you know, he's

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kind of hitting elbows or he's hitting up on his shoulder.
It is such precise hand usage. It's on the wrist,
he's pulling down, he's hitting the club, he's dipping. The
movement is so fluid, his effortless fluidity, good dip, good bend,
good core strength. You'll watch him just stab quickly and
then he's a ghost and he's underneath someone throwing the hands.

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He's running the arc, or he's dipping and ripping and
powering through an offensive lineman shoulder hands to kind of
flatten and get to the QB. Precision and fluidity as
a pass rusher, the move set, the athleticism him very
very very very excited for that potential at pick thirty.
Another one that I don't think he'll be there, but
maybe he will because he was hurt and he had

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a down year. Mickel Williams from Georgia was like a
top three, top five prospect before this season. Jacked up
his ankle to start the year against Clemson, wasn't really
the same throughout the year, but played through that injury
the whole year. Length He fits before I mentioned his stuff.
He fits what the Bills like at edge length, strength,

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run defense, some pass rush ability. But he's a pocket compressor,
not a ton of change in direction, but a pocket
compressor off the edge who can reduce down on the
inside a little bit and also play the run significantly.
And again as a dude who I thought he was
done for the year when I saw that ankle injury
against Clemson. I was watching that game live and I

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was just like, oh, like, he's a top five prospect.
This sucks. He's done, and he gutted through it for
the majority of the year. They had to take him
in and out. But this is a dude who was
playing on a significantly busted ankle and he was still
managing to chuck dudes around and again an impact in him,
but he was still having an impact on the game,
and he fits what they want. Oh. Pete says that
he would move up from Mikel Williams or Mikel Williams.

(01:00:15):
There's so many guy's names what football. I think it's
Mikel Williams. I still don't think he's gonna be there
at thirty. I think there's a chance though, because the
production wasn't there and because of the injury, but this
was a guy again who what preseason was like a
top five prospect, was number one for some folks in
just in terms of what he was even before Abdul
Carter kind of broke out and did what he did.
I think the traits are there, and I think the

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tape from the previous year is there and him gutting
through some stuff, there's still some things to like this year,
and as Ron says, that injury could be a blessing
for us to have a shot at him. I still
don't think he falls to thirty. I think there's a
chance he falls into the twenties and the mid twenties.
Maybe it's the guy they trade up for. Maybe not,
But he's somebody that if he's there at thirty I

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would be fine with because he fits the archetype and
I do think he has a high ceiling, and watching
him play last year through that injury but still having
an impact won me over. But he's a guy again
who I think has a high floor, but a high
ceiling because of the traits and the physical gifts and
skill set pieces that he has. Knowass how about James
Pearce two things. One, I don't think he's necessarily a

(01:01:18):
stylistic fit and an archetype fit for what the Bill
is like. Two, I've heard publicly and privately from some
people that I know who are in the know, and
there's there is some fire so that those character concerns smoke,
And he just doesn't strike me as the type of
guy that the Bills are going to take in round one.
Maybe he falls and is there in round two and

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they're like, all right, cool, we'll take a flyer on him.
But I just think from an archetype standpoint, stylistically, he's
not the best fit. And then with some of the
things I've heard publicly and privately, I think from an
off the field standpoint, he's not the best fit for
this team. Again, things could all change. He whethers the
Storm guy's change when they get to the league, but
I don't see it as of right now. Ron says

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he's out on Pierce. Pete says, I'd be upset if
we could have moved up a few picks for mckel
and didn't. Yeah, I wouldn't be opposed, like if he
was sitting there at twenty five or twenty six he's
somebody I would gravitate towards depending on who's on the board,
Like I don't want to move up for him if
like Baron and Amos are still there, like I'm very
much on the corner train in round one. But if
they traded up for Mickel Williams, I get it. Like again,

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this dude, he's a good player, Like, he's a really
good player. So that's kind of where my head is
for thirty and be Diamond as Araku Mickel Williams. But again,
I think Williams will probably be gone, and actually as
a roku there's a chance he's going to go before
thirty as well. But I think he realistically could be there.
More realistic he could be there. I wouldn't hate Land
and Jackson from Arkansas at thirty, but I would much

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rather have him be a round two guy. And then again,
like I said, I'm still working through edge starting and
getting through the Texas A and M boys, so Nick Scurton,
Shamar Stewart like I mentioned. Also, oh, he's not going
to be a Day one or Day two for the bill.
But what's his name? From U C l A all

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the WITHEMI O the day Hough. It is an intriguing
one to me. Whose tape I've started to see a
little bit. I know some people who like Elijah Roberts.
I saw somebody put the name of Tyler Barron from Miami.
I really liked watching him at Miami. He's not a
Day one or Day two guy for me, but well,
not around one or round two guys should say. But
there's there's a lot of fun names I think at

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Edge and there's some usefulness. Again, what's gonna muddy? All
of it is like trying to get in an ideal world.
Javon Solomon is ready to be Edge four while Hoyd
is on suspension, and then Hoy can come back and
you figure it out. But I do think they might
need to dip into the water here a little bit.
Michael James says, would Princely you from Ole Miss be

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okay in round two? I would rather him in round
three or day three, but I wouldn't hate the round two. Also,
I wrote down how to pronounce this name, so I
want to pronounce it right. Princely Oman me Yellen, So
you're welcome from that, Ron says the kid from UCLA

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caught Maya on the combine, he was smooth. He's a sleeper. Yeah, again,
that is I guess I've written down to say Olufemi
Oladejo from UCLA former like off ball linebacker, moved to
edge this year. So it's not a ton of production.
He's still raw, but there's some upside and athleticism plays
to run. It's got some fun pieces to definitely look
at for sure. But yeah, I think looking at this

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edge grouping, you could use some reinforcement for this year
because Bosa's gonna get hurt at some point. Hoyt has
the six game suspension, what happens to Bosa gets hurt
in week three? And then your top three edges are
what grew at Panessa in Solomon, Like, you need reinforcement
for this year, and I also think you need reinforcement
for twenty twenty six because I don't think Bosa's coming back,
and there's a chance you also lose aj A Panessa,

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and then there's also a chance that Solomon doesn't become anything,
and so you're now you're sitting there being like what
do we do? So that's why Edge is number three
is number three for me. Pete says and reps in
my common earl. He says, that's fair. Not sure Baron
or Amos will last till thirty. It's just so late
to get such safely affective prospects. I agree, which is
why you know I would be okay with that TRADEO
for Williams. What I also like now too. A couple

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of weeks ago, I was on like an island with
Trey Amos. I was like, no, he's got a round
one grade for me. I'd take him at thirty. And
people are like, no, he's a round two guy at best.
And now he's starting to creep up into round one
more and more with each passing week for people, and
I like it more and more. I don't like him
as much as I liked Trent McDuffie, but I have
a similar feeling about him that I did towards McDuffie.

(01:05:38):
That's all I'll say. I don't want to spoil anything
or jinx anything. Ron says, what do you think of
the Ohio State Dees? If we're talking about bills fits.
I like JTT more than I do Sawyer. I think
Sawyer does fit from a play style and from a
mentality standpoint, but the short arms I think are going
to be a real knock against him for the Bills.
I think for a lot of teams that'll be a knock,
But for the Bills especially, I think JT, with his style,

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the compression, the juice, some of the moves and plan,
I think he'd be more of a fit. I wouldn't
be opposed to someone like him at the end of
round two. Again, I'm phrasing all this because they don't
have a third round pick, so there are some guys
you might have to reach because there's I think there's
a bunch of guys that would go in round three
that aren't going to be there in round four. So
if you want him, you're gonna have to take him
at the end of round two, depending on how the
board falls. But somebody who who I wouldn't be opposed to,

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Pete says Amos has been heating up for sure, A
w for you. You never know he could be heating
up and he can end up being a terrible player.
I just thought it was funny, not that anybody kind
of gave me pushback, but I definitely felt like very
much on an island with I was like, oh, I
love Tremos, I love Tremos and really nobody was talking
about and I was like, okay, you know what, you
know what. I think Kendall texted me this a couple

(01:06:47):
days ago. I think I didn't look at him, but
I think Daniel Jeremiah put him in his first round
in his latest mock draft, and I think that's why
it's heating up. Somebody. I think it was Jeremiah. Somebody
notable put him in round one mock, and I think
that's why it's starting to heat up a little bit.
I think I think it's Daniel Jeremiah. Somebody. Feel free
to correct and look up if I'm incorrect. I think

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he had him going to like the Packers or something
like that. Yeah, I think like pick twenty six. I
think Kendall text me that, but I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Fair.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
I like all the names and comments and questions we
got here. This is fun. This is a good engaging chat.
My honorable mention I have two, So those are my
top three again Corner, Interior, defensive, line and edge. My
honorable mention are equal and there oh Tom says DJ
also has Kenneth Grant falling to us thirty. Oh fair, fair, fair,

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Fair Charles says, I had so Charles, I have not
watched Ivy. I've seen a little of Jordan Birch in
watching Harmon, but not a full evaluation. And I have
not watched Josiah Stewart yet. All names on my docket
once I finish going through Edge. I'm just not there yet,
but I will be as we go forward. Also, I'm
very excited for April. I have a lot of good
guests coming to break down each individual position group or

(01:08:01):
we're going to have conversations about best day one, Day two,
and day three fits for the Bills, a lot of
prospect diving and hunting at corner, defensive tackle, edge, and
a couple other spots as well. So I'm very excited.
So you will have your answers as we move forward.
Here come draft cycle. Noah says, if we pick Landon
Jackson at thirty, beat, don't owe me a new TV.

(01:08:24):
I like that subtle way, like because I'm gonna smash it. Yeah,
I wouldn't love it at thirty. I'd understand it and
I wouldn't completely hate it, but yeah I would not
love it, especially based on who I think would be
there at thirty. I would be uh, a little flummoxed
to say the least. But yeah, all right, so my
fourth one, that's an honorable mention. It's two positions. I
have the kind of equally tiered slightly more of a

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one A one B. I'll mention the one A first
wide receiver. I like what they have in the room. Again,
you guys have heard me saying on the film room
myself in air No said I crash out completely, Eric
and I have said in the film room Kendall said
it years ago. We talked about this a lot. Yeah,
Ron knows where my head is at, but I've said

(01:09:08):
this a lot. I believe in building the basketball lineup
at wide receiver. I believe in having that, you know,
have a point guard, a shooting guard, a small forward,
a power forward, a center, like all these different types
of skill sets and dynamics present in the wide receiver room.
Looking at the group right now, Yeah, Thomas is Tory
Horton late day two or Thornton. Yeah, Tory Horton and

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Thornton is like the Ryeman. I like it a lot.
Tory Horton. I'm a big fan of out of Colorado
State hurt last year, but I saw his tape the
past couple of years, and I'm a fan of I
haven't gotten to Thornton's tape, but I know he can burn.
I'll go here from Michael James Isaiah Bond. I'd still
like a skill set, don't. I thought he had such
a down year. He was not the precision route runner
that I thought he was this year. But I know

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he had some injury concerns and there's also some weird
kind of character stuff there as well that I'm not
a huge fan of. I haven't watched Jalen Royals yet
from Utah State, but I'm very intrigued. El says draft
Jalen Nole and prosper yet both I always state receivers
are intriguing. Jayden Higgins and Jalen Nole for sure. Arian
Smith is a burner, Noah good call, Ron says Savvy
On Williams or TCU haven't watched him yet or Besh,

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but they are on my list wide receiver. I'm very
superficial at right now with who I've gotten in the draft.
I don't even have full targets right now. Kyle Williams
of Washington State I like, but I'm only like a
half game in so we will see and yeah, Tory
Horton can absolutely fly and he gives you some special
teams value as a part returner, which is what I like.
So I am making my way through wide receiver. But

(01:10:35):
at this point, again that basketball lineup type of philosophy,
and even if you don't believe in that, like they
just need more vertical stretch and juice in the room.
The only guy you have right now that can stretch
the field is Curtis Samuel and I don't think he
plays as fast as his forty times indicates. And then
also there's injury concerns there. And even if he was
one hundred one thousand percent great healthy field stretcher, if

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he was everything that you wanted, mind you, I do
like him as a player, That's still only one field stretcher.
That's still only one guy. Then you've got key On Coleman,
You've got Palmer. Coleman's athletic, but he's not a burner.
Palmer can get behind guys, but he's not a burner.
Shakir is what Shakiir is, but he is not a burner. Like,
they need somebody who can stretch the field. Who can

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you know, run those for the love of the game
routes and take the top off so digs and other
routes can slip in behind you open up some space.
But I also think somebody who can just win vertically
and threaten someone. If you get a one on one
and you can alert that and be like, oh my
dude's got speed for days, he can beat that corner.
I'm throwing the deep ball, like, you need somebody who
can win vertically, not just with speed, but then track
the ball downfield make plays on it. So I do

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think they need that skill set in the room. They
need more juice, they need more vertical stretch in the
wide receiver room. So I'm looking at a wide receiver
in round four. I know for some people, depending on
who falls, I do like Matthew Golden. That's hilarious. Jim
literally commented it right now. I do like Matthew Golden.

(01:12:02):
It's just it's hard for me to get on board
with the wide receiver in round one given the other needs. Again,
wide receiver technically is like fourth for me. I just
think there's either a corner or an edge or an
interior defensive lineman that's going to be available at thirty.
That would serve you better than Matthew Golden. And I
do like Golden, the fluidity, the you know, the breaks,

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the ability to space. I don't think he plays to
his forty time. I know that kind of lit a
lot of people up. But dude's a good player. I
mean yet, and Tank Ninja says, Texas fans seem to
like Golden, you should like Golden. I like Matthew Golden
a lot. I like him. I like a Buca, I
like a Buka a lot. I haven't watched Tech McMillan yet,
but i've seen, you know, from an in game in

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broadcast game standpoint in the season. I liked him. It
would just be hard for me to go wide receiver
in Round one for the Bills, given the other needs
that are are on the board for me at this
time and for you know what I think, for the team.
Great comment here from Charles saying forty times speed is
so overrated. Get more separators that know how to use
their speed. Yes, play speed is different than time speed.

(01:13:05):
Two things on this one. Play speed is different than
time speed. Two. You don't need to be a pure
burner to win vertically and win down the field. You
can do it with deception, you can do it with pacing,
you can do it with stem work. But it would
be nice if they had a little bit of doce.
So I'm not saying you're saying that. I just always
say these things in conjunction, so because they always get

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brought up and thought of. So, yeah, wide receiver, I
think they need that vertical stretch element and juice in
the room. The other one safety mentioned earlier, and Ron
mentioned it in the chat a little bit ago, and
he said safety and wide receiver. So I'll say a
couple of things on it. And this may say more
about the safety room than it does about the players.
I don't know, you know, to each their own. I
do think Derek Forrest can compete for a starting job,

(01:13:48):
But this is more This safety position is more of
If Malachi Starks is there at thirty, I am on
board with taking him at thirty. If Xavier Wants is
there in round two, I'm on board with taking Wats
in round two. I don't think safety is necessarily a
quote unquote need, but I think the Bills could do

(01:14:09):
themselves a favor schematically with a guy with either guy,
specifically Malachi Starks Xavier Watts. So this is more of
If Malachi Starks is there at thirty, I get it.
If it's Xavier Watts is there in round two, I
get it. There's other safeties that I like, but I
just don't think the fits are as seamless. Like I
like Andrew mccooba from Texas, I don't think the fit
is necessarily there because of his side and play style.
I think he's more of like an apex safety slot.

(01:14:32):
But I do like him as a safety, like the athleticism,
the processing, the ability to fall off and collect, but
then the juice, the physicality to be able to play
from top down angles to the ball, the short air reverse,
the quickness.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
But he's an example I feel like a safety fit
that isn't necessarily seamless. Same thing with like Malachi Moore
from Alabama. And then I'll speak on nick Emon Warrick.
I'll speak on nick Emmon Warrey. Now, I don't think
nick Emmon Warry is a fit for the Bills. I
talked about it a bit in the film room. I
think Emon Worry is best suited to be a box
safety slash. You know, Big Nickel apex sub package type

(01:15:11):
of linebacker role. That's what I think he's best suited for.
And I don't think on tape he plays to the
athleticism in size that he tests with. For as big
and as athletic as he is, I don't think he
plays big and or athletic like he's. I think he's
a fine player, but I don't think he mays enough
makes enough plays where like, oh wow, the size really
showed up on that one, Like watch him blow this
tight end up, Watch him set the edge versus the run,

(01:15:34):
Watch him cover this slot receiver, man up on this,
you know, athletic guy, Like I just don't think you
see that enough. And even with the way he kind
of moves, he moves very heavy footed, almost like his
feet or is like cleets have cement in them. He
just feels like he just feels heavy, And I like
him for those who who watch the show. I keep
making the joke. I pick South Carolina in my NC

(01:15:56):
double A twenty five dynasty and NICKI man Worry finished
third in the Heisman for me win national championship that year.
It was pretty sweet. So I did a lot of
things with him in that game. But I just I
don't even know where he's gonna rank, and on my
safety board it's not too so we'll see where it
shakes out. I'm not too high on him. I just

(01:16:17):
think the fit has to be very particular for him
to succeed. I'm not saying he's not a round one guy.
I just think you have to put him in the
right system and with the right team to get him
to click. I don't think he's just like a plug
and play safety in a variety of teams, right. I
think there's some questions physically for his athletic as he
is and as well as he tested, I think there's

(01:16:38):
some questions physically, and I also think there's some questions
with how he sees the field when he's deeper, so
from a processing and a diagnosing standpoint, the deeper he
is coming from depth to play the run, but also
kind of processing route concepts and route distributions. I think
there's some questions there as well. So I don't love
I don't want him for the bills, and I do
think the fit is more specific for certain teams. So

(01:17:00):
I'm want to get to Emmin Warry because I know
several of you asked about him back to the Bill's
safety piece as well. Four. Note again, I've said this
to Hill multiple times during the season and this offseason.
Taylor Rapp only has a six hundred and sixty six
thousand dead cap hit if cut after June first, So

(01:17:20):
it's a six hundred and sixty six thousand dead cap
hit and a three million dollar savings if he's a
post June first cut. So if a safety falls, I
don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for
them to be like, oh, Malchi Starks is there, cool,
We're going to take Starks and pair them with one
of the other safeties and maybe we cut Rap. I
don't think that's gonna happen, and I'm not advocating for that,
But it's not out of the realm of possibility. Or

(01:17:41):
it's not out of the realm of possibility for them
to cut Forest or Hamlin. It's not anut of the
realm of possibility that Bishop loses the job to Forest
or Hamlin or to another rookie. All I say all
these things to say that I don't think safety is
in need, but I do think it's a legit competition
for safety. Two through four, Right, now with the caveat

(01:18:01):
of I think Cole Bishop is the leader in the
clubhouse right now to start opposite of Taylor Rap, which
makes sense. I just think there's questions about the same.
If you told me that the opening day starting safety
group is Rap and Bishop, I believe you. If you
told me it was Rap and Forest, I believe you.
If you told me it was Rap in Hamlin, I
believe you. If you told me it was Rap and
a rookie, I believe you. If you told me it
was another combination, I believe you. I think there's questions

(01:18:25):
at safety. I think Rap is the closest to having
a spot locked down, and I kind of think in
theory that he does. But yeah, I don't think it's
a need, but I think it's one that they could
upgrade schematically. I've talked about it on the show. Again,
I don't want to drive too much on it, but
I just I just think there's a lot of positional redundancy,

(01:18:45):
and not necessarily in the best way with like Rap
and Bishop. Even though Bishop is a different level of athlete,
and you know Bishop, Hamlin, Rap, Bishop, all these type
of guys, I don't think they have anyone who you know.
Forrest is probably the best combination of being able to
play the post from an athletic position and also being

(01:19:05):
able to process. Bishop can play as a single high
post safety from a range standpoint because of his athleticism,
but he doesn't have the processing and the recognition yet.
Rap can play it from a recognition and a processing standpoint,
but he doesn't have to get He doesn't have the
athleticism in the range. Neither does Hamlin. Forrest is the
best combination of all of those. Forest is probably the
best combination. It's safety for the bills of athlete, plus

(01:19:27):
being able to play deep, plus being able to play
in the box, plus having some physicality and processing all
like all these things. He's not elite at any one thing,
but he's he's like above average or average a pretty
much everything. He's like a six to a seven in
almost everything across the board, which is why I don't
think you can kind of cut him out of this competition. Yeah,

(01:19:49):
it's an interesting group to say the least Manny for
Marris just should I just give up on Lewis scene.
I liked him coming out of Georgia. I liked some
of his tape in the preseason Minnesota. I don't know,
I mean them bringing in Forrest and Hamlin. I think
that doesn't say good things. Foreseene, I wouldn't say give up,
but you know, I don't think it's great for him.

(01:20:12):
Noah says, how about Taylor Rapp and Andrew mccuba. Mcuba
is just interesting, like I, yeah, I don't know. I
see him as more like and I don't mean this
like not a starner. I see him more as like
a third safety for a team, like like a team
like the like the Cardinals who run a lot of
three safety looks, so the Rams who run a lot
of three safety looks like the teams who are Ron

(01:20:33):
you just said Rams. I don't know if you mean
that for mccoober or not. But the the idea of
him being this guy who can play top down but
play around the box. He's got some juice and athleticism
and play making on the ball, he's got some slot capability,
Like there is all this intriguing tape for macuba. But

(01:20:56):
also I don't know if he fits as kind of
like a true or true who were type of safety
type of deal ow And for those asking, yeah, I
thought I thought Manny was kind of just genuinely asking
about Lewis scene. Yeah, scene is on the Eagles. I
didn't I thought you just meant like give up on
it as a player. Yeah, he got claimed, I believe
in January off the practice squad by the Eagles. So

(01:21:17):
he I think he got a ring, So good for him.
I'm also seeing a lot of comments too, like I
know Rap, I don't. Plenty of dudes have hit each
other like I know Rap gets. I don't like the
narrative of Rap like friendly fire all the time. I
know it's happened a couple of times, but it's also
happened with Hamlin. It's also happened with like the linebackers

(01:21:38):
and each other. And I see guys hit each other
all the time on other teams and on the bills,
and it doesn't get talked about. But Rap has done
it a couple of times, and all of a sudden,
it's like a huge story. I do feel like it
happens to him potentially more than most, but it's not
really a story to me. It's more of a non
story for me. And as Pete says, Rap solved more
problems than he created last season. He's not the guy

(01:21:59):
to replace the moment. Yeah, I don't think he's the
guy to replace as well. I think he solidifies that group.
But if you told me in order to in order
to get Malachi Starks it costs Taylor Rap, I'd be like, Okay,
but actually I feel bad saying, but I just love
Malachi Starks, so I'm fine with that. But yeah, so again,
I don't safety's weird. It's not a need, but it's

(01:22:19):
muddy with the competition. I think it's muddy in the
positional redundancy. Like I don't love the Bishop Forest or
I don't love the Bishop Rap combination. I like rapping
Forest better than I like Rap and Bishop. I like
Forest and Bishop better than I like Rap and Bishop.
Like they're I don't know, like it's just weird. I

(01:22:41):
also too, you guys know, like I I didn't love
Bishop as a prospect, but I thought his best fit
wouldn't be in a system like the Bills. I thought
his best fit was as a you know, put him
in the Patriots with what they like to do with
their safeties. Put them with the Ravens, like these teams
that love to take three safety or multiple safety looks
and okay, are you are you off ball? Are you

(01:23:02):
playing deep? Is it single high? Is it split field?
Are you playing in a slot? Are you gonna man?
Are you gonna like hook the curl, curl the flat?
What are you doing? I think he's better suited for
that type of defense than in the Bills, even though
the Bills are very versatile and interchangeable with their safeties
while they were with hide employer. I do think that's
more of a traditional type of safety role, and I
don't think Bishop is necessarily best suited for that. But

(01:23:22):
again he could develop into that, so we'll see. Yeah,
safety's weird. I would like them to take one on
day three, and I wouldn't be opposed to Malachi starts
at thirty, even again we talked about it earlier. In
that example, I think Charles gave me I am Trey
Amos or John Ay Barron or bust at pick thirty.

(01:23:45):
I don't think Baron's gonna be there, so I'm signing
right now. I'm signing up for Trey amost at thirty.
But if Malachi Starks was there, oh man, the heart
wants what it wants, and the head wants what it
wants to like starts as sweet. His tape the past
couple of years is better than it was this past year.
But man, oh yeah, I'm very intrigued, very intrigued by

(01:24:07):
those position groups. And yeah, that's kind of That's where
I'm at at this point. So corner, interior, defensive line edge,
and then honorable mention for wide receiver and safety. That's
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(01:25:38):
I've only had pizza in Rochester wants and it was
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Paithon who's the best pizza in Rochester. Zen Clover says,

(01:25:58):
you prefer Trey Amos to Maxwell Harriston. I think I
would lean Harston. I do prefer Amos from an on
field you know, scheme fit standpoint. I like Hairston as well.
If you go back earlier, you know when I talked
about corner, You know my picks at thirty are Barren
or Amos. I wouldn't be opposed to Harriston at thirty.

(01:26:20):
I would like him more in round two, but I
also have heard there's some off the field stuff that
may might ding him on the bills board. But just
from an on the field standpoint, I do like his game.
The tackling is a bit worrisome. He's more of a
guy that I would like with the round two pick
than I wouldn't pick thirty. But if they took him
at thirty, I wouldn't be completely florid or disappointed because

(01:26:41):
the speed is very real and his play style from
a pass covered standpoint works. And then Noah says, yeah, uh,
Chavon Revel or Shavn Revel I've heard his name pronounce
like seven different ways and interviews. I'm a couple of
games into him, but I need to see the twenty
twenty three tape and then juxtaposed it with the twenty
twenty four. I am very intrigued just because the ball

(01:27:02):
scales and the coverage ability and what he did. But
right now it's gonna be hard for people to pass
Amos for me or even Barren. Adrian says, what do
you think about James Pierce Junior. I haven't finished my
eval on him, but I don't think he's necessarily an
archetype fit for the Bills, and I've heard both publicly
and privately about some character things that I think are

(01:27:22):
gonna make him a bit of a hard fit for
the Bills and maybe even other teams in general. But
the juice plays and the athleticism sure plays. You see
that with regularity for him and from him. But I'm
still not finished from my evaluation him with the edge
grouping in general. But yeah, there's so that's what I
got right now. I'm Puerce oh RJ says. Pie time

(01:27:46):
in Rochester is pretty good. The owner is from Manhattan
but a Jets fan unfortunately, and then he says, I
hope one pie comes to Rochester one day. I would
second that notion. We talked about it, the global domination,
to start with Rochester and then work to Syracuse, and
then we get into Toronto and we take over Canada.
We're all over, all, over, all over, Zen says, I
grew with your criticism. I just think Harston is a

(01:28:07):
higher ceiling personally and could figure it out. Plus anticipating
more man coverage next year, didn't know about the off
the field stuff. Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with Hairston.
I think the ceiling is also high for Amos, and
even from a man coverage standpoint, Amos I'm comfortable with
putting him in press man right now. And because of
his footwork and arm length and technique, he's just going
to be a problem and he's going to restrict airspace

(01:28:29):
at the release, in the stem and on the break.
I think Hairston is less technically refined. But the speed
and where am I where? Let me find my notes
on Harston? But the speed and where's my email? Why
is my doc? Yes, that's what it is. But Harston's
recovery speed and speed in general, and he's got very
calm and clean feet that allows him to stay in

(01:28:51):
phase almost with everybody the short area burst and that
man coverage ability because of his calm feet and someone
of his phys county in tenaciousness. I think it does
work a bit, but I just prefer a most from
his scheme, the schemes that he's coming from at Oll
Miss and then the individual skill set pieces in aside

(01:29:12):
from the off the field stuff. I would still have
Amost ranked ahead of Hairston, but I do like Hairston
even even with the smaller stature and frame and some
of the tackling woes and concerns. But yeah, fair point,
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I appreciate you folks, And yeah, thank you everybody for
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Appreciate all the kind words from everybody in the chat.
I appreciate Ron saying, Aunt, there's still hope we get
a Sante Samuel Junior. I'm still hoping. I don't think
it's happening, but I'm still hoping a little bit. Yeah,
there's a Oh. I appreciate that RJ talking about the
good primer for the draft tonight. Yeah, it's only gonna
get better. Thank you very much for the kind words, folks.
I appreciate you. Charles says, who's winning your NCAA bracket Auburn.

(01:32:40):
But I'm still hoping. I'm still holding out for North Carolina.
That's my favorite team. I doubt it. We'll see if
they can beat Ole Miss tomorrow, but yeah, I'm holding
out for Carolina, but Auburn is my pick for the bracket.
We will see. I appreciate you, folks, Thank you very much.
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