Colton Little and Christopher Sean join Dishin' Days week of June 23rd-27th, 2025

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of days and things like that, but I think we're
gonna skip that and go right into the show. Actually
we should do this part because we're just gonna get
into it.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Today we got we got it. We got a lot
of things to do today, people, because now it's time
to start one, two three, I mean it was close
one day, one day soon. All right, y'all, let's start
with our very top storyline, which is wedded Bliss. And

(03:27):
of course we can't talk about the wedding herd around
Salem without the grooms themselves. Ladies and gentlemen, please help
me welcome you know him as Paul Nourita and also
uh Andrew Donovan. It's Colton Little and Christopher Sean everybody.

(03:48):
Although that when I was doing that intro, I thought, well,
who took whose name is it? Andrew? Noita? Now? Is
it like Noarita Donovan? Is it, Donovan Nourita, like what happened?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
It's we changed our last names to Haughty one Hotty two.
It's really like nailing the brand, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I think those that is very acceptable. Of course, Well,
thank you guys so much for joining us. We were
very happy to see the wedding of Andrew and Paul,
but also a wedding that had no interruptions, no shenanigans,
no reveals, just two people in love in wedded bliss.

(04:34):
So congratulations on that, because we all know Silm weddings left.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I was thinking this week, I was like, something was
It was lovely, it was you know, not extravagant, but
still you know, it didn't need to be extravagant.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
But I was like, something's missing from this wedding? What
is it?

Speaker 5 (04:53):
And that's exactly it. There was no drama, there was
no interruption, there was no guess that was dropping a
bombshell like someone someone wasn't pregnant with one of y'll's
babies or something.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
But it didn't need it.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
It was just, you know, we had some joy after
a couple of weeks of not so much joy.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
So it was lovely. Yeah, but that's that's what was.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Missing the the usual drama.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Congratulations on being one of the quietest Salem weddings at
a history in the six year history.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
How much did when when you made your return as
as Paul and Andrew, Like, how much did you all
know about the storyline and where they were going to
take it? Because we know usually Dave doesn't give too
much information, But how much information did you know about
about this return to sale?

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Which one is one of you? Which one is one
of us? Somebody's asking which question.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
First?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Christopher Christopher Hattie one, No, I'm I play Andrew Donovan.
My name is Colton little and lovely Christopher Shawan over
there place Paul and Nerita my husband. Yeah, I guess
like to answer your question, uh, we I think we
were told that we were getting married. We didn't know

(06:20):
until we got the scripts. We didn't know like what
kind of what it was going to be, if there
was gonna be any drama. Me being the messy person
I am, I wanted a little something and then when
I read, uh, when I read Chandler Massey was going
to be there, I was like, maybe something like a
little a little little salt and pepper, you know, added

(06:42):
to the equation, but there I think it was also
just lovely coming off because we filmed this and the funeral,
you know, weeks apart, and I think coming off of that,
the mood around the studio and behind the scenes was
somber and also just very you know, reverent and trying.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
To keep.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Drake's spirit alive and also honor his legacy on the show.
And so I think that, like Marlene says in those
in the episodes around the funeral, like we need joy,
we need happiness, we need a celebration of love, which
is what John and Marlena represent, and so I think
that that was the intention of the writers, was to

(07:30):
bring joy and bring that back to Salem and kind
of be like, you know, this show gets crazy sometimes
and a lot of ups and downs happened, but at
the at the core of the show, it's about love
and it's about family, and I think that's what the
wedding provided.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
And fitz Sean, I don't remember the question.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
So it's fine, you've you've been traveling and we're just
grateful that you were able to join us today because
we couldn't talk about the wedding without the other half.
What how much did they tell you about the storyline
when you came back Today's this round.

Speaker 8 (08:10):
Yeah, they they were kind enough to give me like
a kind of a whole insight as to what the
run was going to be. So I had a strong understanding.
And you know, I'm lucky that I get to work
with amazing talent in the show, but I also get
partner with amazing talent like Holton. He really kept it professional,

(08:33):
he kept it lovely, and really I think the wedding
went off without a hitch because characters need We really
did need that love after John being John passing. You
know that it's always never nice to talk about that,
but it is one of those experiences where I'm glad
it happened because all of us got to mourn. But again,

(08:56):
the wedding was beautiful. The Japanese tradition was wonderful being
in Japan, and now it's like, it's lovely that we
got to apply a little bit of my history into
this wedding with the Donovan family.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, now, did you all have any input into like
what the wedding would be like? Because I remember when
we were talking with Lamone and sal about Eli and
Lonnie's wedding they mentioned how like they kind of like
work together to make their wedding very special and with

(09:30):
traditions and things like that. Did you all have have
any input into Paul and Andrew's wedding or was it
all just the writers?

Speaker 8 (09:41):
You know the I'll just say this, they added the
Japanese tradition in the wedding and a lot of people
that aren't aware of what that. The sequence of the
wedding is. So on the day we were like, actually,
we need change a couple of things. So we were

(10:03):
changing production around a little bit on the day, and
they were really kind enough to accommodate, just to not
to insult the Japanese culture. And that's how wonderful days
of our lives is. They're so even though they're on
such a tight budget and timers change, they were still
willing to accommodate, which is wonderful, and they made it
as close to perfect as it could be.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yea, and there was. It was actually longer. It's funny.
I just when I was watching it, I was like,
I remember it was ages ago, but I remember recording
more of that, and then I just glanced back, I
have my script here, and I just glanced back and
we did do we did like the big big cup,
little big cup, medium cup, a small cup, and you know,

(10:48):
I think they cut it down obviously for time sake.
But it was cool because Bell had a chance to
do one of the cups as well. And then who
is the other one? Carrie carry did one, Bell did one,
and then somebody else did one. It might have been
it might have been Brady. I think, yeah, yeah, But anyway,

(11:12):
so that was it was sweet because it was like
we got to do that in real life and on
and and take the time and and like Christopher said,
actually get it right, because he was very specific about it,
and you know, you don't want to do something halfway.
So that was kind of important, I believe for sure.
Set I didn't say that. You said it.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Like on set when you guys are filming, especially since
you were surrounded by so many vets. Was it like
a homecoming for everybody? Was everyone in enjoys mood where
people like catching up with each other? What was was
the bibe? When you were filming it?

Speaker 4 (11:51):
I was pasting Charles Shaughnessy like it was my job,
but also trying to be really cool about it. I
I think like the mood again, like like we were
kind of saying earlier, it was like it was a
little bit somber still because we were all still in
that in that real life zone of grieving. But there

(12:14):
was also it's just nice whenever you can get a
lot of characters who, like I don't interact with a
lot of different characters on the show, So getting to
actually sit down and be in the same room as
all of these people and like like Chandler Massey new
best friend. I was like, how long are you in town?
Let's grab a drink, like you're my new favorite person. Like,

(12:37):
so that was the mood for me. I know, personally
was a lot of stress because there was I think
forty pages we filmed that day, like that I had
dialogue in which is my record on the show, and
then there was just like so I was excited, but
I was also in work mode because I was also

(12:57):
very aware that this was such an import an episode
and I wanted to be on my a game and
like Christopher always, like ever since I first got on
the show, Christopher was like, show up, do your job,
do it well, and like this show doesn't have time
for people who play around. And I've taken that to heart,
and it's something that I've sort of lived with ever
since I've joined the show. And so that so it

(13:18):
was a big work day and we both knew that
we were both very focused, So there was a lot
of focus, but there was still a lot of like
fraternization and also while remaining in that place of honoring,
you know, the heaviness of the moment we were all in.

(13:39):
Said to Charles Shaughnessy, I truly tried to be like
I tried to act like I was like, oh yeah,
just like here's another actor on the.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
I was just don't freak out that mister Sheffield is
your dad.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
I was like, did you did you wear a leopard
print anything?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Mister Sheffield.

Speaker 9 (14:00):
Went in.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
I know, I think like the way I approached me,
like because I also met him and worked with him
during the funeral scenes and so and that was a
lot heavier, of course, but I think for me it
was like I wanted to like looking at somebody mister
Sheffield aside like looking at somebody who's had such a
career as his, like he's an incredibly talented actor who
does like stage that no one necessarily like knows about

(14:24):
or keeps up with like he does. He does stage
productions every year, and he's theater trained, and he has
done soaps and sitcoms and movies and television. Like he
has the career that I or any actor kind of
would hope for. And he's gone from drama to comedy.
It's like all of the different things. So those were
the questions I was asking him, was like, what have

(14:45):
been your favorite experiences on set? Like what if you
had two pieces of advice to give somebody who was
in my shoes? What would those be like? And he
was telling us some amazing stories and he was so
so kind and generous with his time, and it was
funny when like as soon as I started asking him
about like the work, he opened up and he was
and he and it's it's interesting, like, yeah, you can

(15:08):
you can respect someone for their star quality or their
like you know who they are on screen, but as
soon as you ask like a real actor about the work,
that's when you see them light up. Yeah, that's when
we really connected.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh I love that. Well, we have questions from from
fans that we want to have you guys answer to.
I'm gonna first bring on Brian from Florida. Who has
a question for you all.

Speaker 10 (15:35):
Hi, Brian Hikay, thank you guys for being here. So
I'm Brian. I'm your ten seventeen on Instagram. I don't
know if you recognize that, but okay, here's my question.
How did the two of you keep up the rapport
and the chemistry and build a relationship between your characters

(15:56):
when you're not on set all the time interacting? Also,
please day make both Christopher and Colton full time.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
We need Salem.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I could personally make that happen.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
I would thank That's very that's very sweet. Thank you
for the plea to the show. God's uh, Christopher, go
ahead and answer, because you're you're you're great at that.

Speaker 8 (16:20):
I think the number one thing is disrespect the work.
The dialogue itself will take you places emotionally, but when
you're looking at someone like Colton, it's easy to act
like you're in law.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
I'm wearing very short shorts. It is very sweet, Christopher.
I I mean I kind of always say it, but
like Christopher gave me my work ethic on the show,
and he sort of framed framed that for me and
taught me a lot of valuable lessons. And so I'll
always have that respect for him in that way. And

(17:05):
I think that we show up, We show up and
we know that we're there to do the job. And
like it's really hard because you have to sort of
create chemistry out of thin air when you're working that quickly,
and especially when you're doing like love scenes or like
intimate scenes where you have to, you know, stare at
each other's eyes for fifteen twenty seconds as they hold

(17:27):
at the end of the take and get those like
really awkward shots so they just hold on you. But
I think that, yeah, there's just like a genuine sort
of brotherly I hate to say it because that sounds
kind of weird, like that we're lovers on screen, but
there's like a brotherly affection between us, and I think
a mutual respect that we both know that we're going
to show up and do the work.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
And awesome, thank you Brian for your question all the
way from Florida.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Nice too in personally, good to see dude.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
The one thing that I think, you know, fans wish
and I know I do. I wish that we saw
more of Paul and Andrew's relationship because like during the wedding,
there was a lot of recounts of like how Paul
and Andrew met and the things that they've been through.
But I feel like, unlike some of the other couples,
a lot of things happened off camera with with their relationship.

(18:22):
Is there is there anything that you wish fans could
have seen with with the relationship between Paul and Andrew.

Speaker 8 (18:32):
Everything. I mean if I was, if I was, you know,
on contract on the show, then I think I'd want
everyone to see everything that Colton can do. He he
can run a show, a series of his own. He's
a phenomenal actor. He's gorgeous, dude, super fun, funny. I
wish they saw more of that, you know, I think

(18:53):
Paul is a very loving, honorable, honest, genuinely good person. Colton,
they get to give him more layers because he's such
a phenomenal talent.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Oh, it's very very sweet.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Thank you, there's so much love.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Why why I was crying during.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
The Yeah, it's it was like, I mean the ceremony itself,
and like even like my I know, my moment with
Shane in his moment with Marlena, both were like those
are the moments that got me. We're like the little
little behind the scenes moments are a little like private moments,
And I guess answer the question that you just asked,

(19:36):
it was like I do wish that you could see
them in their day to day Like I wish there
Paul and Andrew have been kind of created as this,
like I've seen it online written by people like this
sort of Pollyanna sweet, perfect like polished couple, and like
we don't really get into a lot of trouble, and
we don't cause a lot of drama, and there's not

(19:57):
a lot of tumult behind the scenes, like you know,
with our characters and the storylines, we get into crazy situations.
But I do wish that the only thing that I
wish that people could see is sort of the more
real human day to day element of maybe what makes
a relationship tick outside of because you know, we'll talk

(20:17):
about like it's so hard to keep this going when
you're were on opposite coasts and all of these things.
But to actually see us interact in day to day
or like maybe going more missions, that would be kind
of fun, because I do like the action portion, Like
that's my favorite thing about Andrew is that he gets
to do all these like cool missions and like wild storylines.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, speaking of missions, Christopher Schaan is on one in
Japan and so he has to he has to run
unfortunately because he is currently working. But we can't talk
about it yet, but we can't wait to share it
with you all. So you go to work, don't don't
let us keep you. But we thank you for coming

(20:59):
on for amount of time you could.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah, thank you, guys, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Thank you having me. Please keep giving love. The Colton
users is amazing and on contract that day.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Bye question Bye, I didn't know he was leaving.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, he was like, I have to be out so
that he can catch a train to work because it's
Monday in Japan.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
So it's Monday seven.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
The am and the trains run like clockwork there. I
lived there for two years. It was they don't mess around.
They don't have late trains there.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah. Well, we were just talking about Colton Andrew's line
of work, and Chelsea, who is from Saint Louis, had
a question for both of you. But Colton, you're going
to have the I don't want to say burden, but
the responsibility of answering this question from Chelsea, are you Oh, I'm.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Good for I am, that's my friend. She never tells
me that she's coming on.

Speaker 11 (22:05):
I've asked you like twenty minutes before the start, but no,
I thought this would be a fun one, just like
paint us a picture of your ideal Isa mission adventure
for Paul and Andrew.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I want.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
I actually am curious what Christopher would say, because yeah,
I don't know what he would say. Like I loved
being kidnapped. I love being like tied up and splashed
with water. I think like a really crazy like all
the stuff they do with To Beyond Salem where they
had like the boat and the like all that stuff,

(22:41):
like with the special effects, like all of that kind
of stuff would be amazing. I really think a I
kind of wish they would come back to Salem, honestly,
Like I love the idea of them coming back to Salem,
maybe like a big murder mystery situation or maybe like
anything with action. And I know that that's kind of
just a lame statement, but I really wish that it

(23:04):
was less just like you see the henchmen laying on
the floor and then then we're like we did it,
and like you actually see the action because like that
that's the fun stuff to film. But unfortunately, because of
time and safety measures, we can't do those all the time.
But yeah, I mean more travel of course, and just
like international locations and and just like beyond Salem two

(23:26):
point five. Yeah, that'd be cool. Thanks for the question though.
Oh and also like with with Dad, I actually would
love to see the I s A offices and like
how Andrew and Shane interact in like a professional sense,
because Andrew is such a goody two shoes and in
a lot of ways and he just sort of follows
and his dad's footsteps and tries to be nice. But

(23:48):
I would love her into like butt heads with with
Shane a little bit.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Well that's just that'll happen, and I'm that's one thing
I'm positive what happened down the road.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, absolutely, at least she was frozen in like a
really good frame.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
She was like she was. I was like that. That's
why I moved because I was like, oh God, am
I frozen?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Xander versus the I s A. I really like that
from oh Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
By himself. Well, thank you Chelsea from Saint Louis with
with your question. We always appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (24:32):
Of course you'll have.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
To by him.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, that would be interesting to see like the father's
son dynamic of like working together, especially since you know
obviously Andrew followed in the footsteps of his dad. So
it'll be it'll be interesting. I don't know. I feel
like there's a there could be a possibility. I know,
days films nine months in advance. But then but just now,

(25:03):
shortly after, we realize, uh, Kat Green, who was played
by annalyin McCord, has some ties to the I s
A as well, So I'm like, mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's going to be expanded a little bit.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I know.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
I was like, I know, I know information I can't say,
so I almost was like, oh yeah, and then I
was like, no.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Don't say anything. Speaking of of the is a like
what we you know, we've been touching on on Drake
hoguson and and and John Black's funeral and and how
beautifully that was done for you, Carlton, you know, what
was it like being able to kind of be a
part of that storyline when you read it where you

(25:54):
just kind of like, like, what was the feeling that
that you had?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Uh, just like I was kind of floored because you know,
I got I've said this before, but like I've I
came onto the show for five episodes of Beyond Salem two,
Like I had no intention of staying around this long.
I was just like, as an actor, just excited to
get work. And I got the show and then did

(26:23):
the five episodes, and then some of my coworkers from
Beyond Salem to stayed on on contract after that, and
then I was really bummed because like I didn't get
a contractor I didn't get any sort of offer to stay,
and I was I took it the hearts. I was like,
of course, like, oh, I'm not a good actor. They
didn't like my character, the fans didn't react well. Like

(26:44):
there were so many thoughts and feelings that came up
after that. And then there's so many things behind the
scenes that people don't necessarily see why actors or characters
don't get brought in and a lot of it's just
scheduling people are on different shows or people you know
I You'll get an email two weeks out from filming

(27:05):
for days and they'll be like, hey, by the way,
you free these dates, And if you're not free or
you have a family, vacation planned or whatever it is,
you can't do it, and so you know you, but
you also can't hold your schedule open all the time
for days with lives to call. So it's just a
it's sort of an impossible equation to solve every time
they reach out. And uh yeah, I think that staying

(27:28):
around this long, I'm so honored and I'm grateful. And
when I was asked to do like the Dick Van
Dyke episodes, I was gagged. And then because I was like, wait,
what me, like, you really like okay, sure, Like I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna look a gift forwards in
the mouth. But and then he got, you know, he
got his kidnapping episodes, and he got his stuff with
Megan Hathaway and then so he's gotten like more and

(27:51):
more as he's gone. And I think the fans are
to credit for that because they've shown him a lot
of love. Thank you, Debbie. I appreciate that compliment. And
then to get to be a part of the Drake
storyline as well with the funeral, Like I had a
very limited interaction with Drake. You know, I worked with
them a handful of times, and I've had like one

(28:13):
or two scenes just with him, and he is everything
that everyone's always said about him, and just behind the
scenes and everything. He'll sit there and he'll talk your
ear off in the nicest, most loving, fatherly way, and
he just is so generous with his time and energy.
So to be able to honor him, I was just
sit there and watch people like give their speeches and

(28:34):
share their memories of him as the characters. But also
you could tell that there was something underneath with all
of it that was it was just like the tears
were real and there was something. I think you can
see me crying a little bit in the episode. I noticed,
but like there was something that Marlenus says, and I
think it's when she's reading the poem I had just gone.
I got I went through a breakup after five years

(28:56):
with someone right before we filmed all that, like like
within like a few months, and she said something so
beautiful in the poem she was reading, and it hit
me so personally of like love, like the way that
love interacts with all of us, and the way that
like love has this pull on all of us. And
when she said it, I remember that was the thing

(29:18):
that broke me because I was watching Deirdre get up
there giving this amazing performance and she said this thing,
and I was just like, oh, like, right now, I've
been thinking about it. I get kind of like and
I was like, Oh, there's so much love in the
show behind the scenes and on the camera and everything.
It's just so to just witness that.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
It's just yeah, it was really It's really interesting that
you say that you were able to connect to something
real for you in that moment, because I often wandered
there were almost everybody who was a part of that
funeral had a personal connection to John Black, to Drake Hoguston,
and then there were a handful of people that were
there really as just the strong support system for all

(29:58):
these other characters. So I was I always wondered what
was that like for you? Where did you feel like
just another audience member in that moment or did you
feel like it was a responsibility for you to be
that support system responsibility?

Speaker 4 (30:12):
It was just like there was I didn't I don't
think I had any lines line like in the first
episode of the three, but I just to sit there
was it was just an honor and it was beautiful.
And also because Christopher had a hard time with that.
It was really personal for him, the whole experience. And
to sit there and like earnestly put my hand on
his back and be rubbing his back when he was

(30:34):
going through it, it's an honor.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, I think that's what That's what we noticed about
the funeral was that and much like even the one
for Bill Hayes, who plays Doug, it was kind of
like this fine line between the character and the person,
and it was we it was just you know, people

(31:03):
recounting the person as the character, but you knew that
there were just personal touches that were that were being
added and we were seeing like you know, people truly
feel for the person, but but also remembering, Okay, this
is the show part of it, you know. So yeah,

(31:25):
the past couple of weeks, like the anticipation of of
you know, what we knew was was going to happen
up until you know, the the moments of celebrating him
were I mean, it was all just it was beautiful.
It was it was really well done.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
So and I also in the midst of like a
writing writer's change, there was a lot of stuff going
on behind the scenes with like I remember the conversations
I was hearing were Robin Hood's stash. Yeah, not a
new role, just unemployed actor having fun with his facial
hair to do uh yeah, to have like all of

(32:07):
these different regime changes happening, and like even stuff with
the you know, with the producers and stuff. There was
there was already things in motion behind the scenes, and
I think that they were trying to find that balance
of how do we keep how do we honor the
storylines that are already rolling, but also introduce the storylines
that we want to introduce as the new writers and
honor now this huge loss for the show, and honor

(32:29):
this new beginning for this other couple. There was a
lot of things happening creatively that I mean, they landed
the plane so well. Yeah, like it's an impossible task,
but the fact that they were doing all of that
and balancing it all and still making it look kind
of effortless is a testament to the team behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I will personally be so pissed if we don't get
a bunch of Emmy nominations out of all of this material,
because in discussing this for the last ten months, and
the and the things that we've seen and the things
that we heard and how you say they landed the plane.
It was It's a production nightmare to have to do

(33:08):
all this. I mean it was. Everybody did their best,
and they knew that they had a job to do,
and they knew how important it was to honor Drake.
But my god, I'll lay it off for our audience
because since I've worked in production, it's a production nightmare
to have to deal with all of that at once.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
I hope the production coordinator gets a big bottle of booze.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Got a big bottle. This was eight months ago, so got.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
It, like for Christmas, got a giant bottle of like
tequila or something. Because that's the person that was probably
the one that just did had to do what Rseli
was describing, you know, production coordinator. It's in the title, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
writer for just for your character Andrew for a little while,

(33:55):
what kind of like old schools soap tropes would you
like like to get you?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
You know, I want to see I want to see
like dark Andrew. I want to see because like there's this.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Like evil twin.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
I mean I would love I mean that's I would
take an evil twin in a heartbeat. I I think
just seeing him, Like I think soaps are so cool
because they are sort of they're like they're human emotion
to a one hundred and ten percent. It's like and that,

(34:33):
and they have to because they have to play, you know.
The whole idea is they would sell soap commercials during soaps,
like that was the idea, Like they're they're on in
the background as as you're during the daytime when you're
when you're at home and you're doing other things. And
so I Andrew, like I've said, is a bit vanilla
sometimes and he's sweet and all these things, but he's

(34:55):
also killed people, Like he's admitted on the show that
he's killed people before, he like alluded to it and
then kind of dodge the question. But I would love
to see some of that, like that Deep Dark is
a training, some psychological terrorism being put on him and
his family. And I think that like now, especially with
the wedding and having the thing with this whole idea

(35:18):
of him having something that would be so important for
him to lose with Paul. There's a reason that in
real life, a lot of people who work in the
military and secret agencies and like these government agencies keep
an arm's length between them and a personal life, or
keep things separate because it hurts so much to open

(35:40):
up your heart to something and then have it ripped
away from you. And so I think that there's so
much there to explore. I would love to see him
sort of go through it. Maybe Paul goes missing, or
Paul gets kidnapped or something like that, or his parents,
something really intense happens with his parents or his sisters. Like,
there's so much you can explore. And I know that
Shane and Kim on the show are so beloved for

(36:00):
many many decades now, and it's like that'd be fun,
you know.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (36:06):
Someone posted recently about the cake. Well we'll get to
that to ask about that. Well, since you brought it up,
can we talk about the cake now now? We now listen.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
We we love sweet Bits, and we thought that because
leading up to that they even mentioned it, like she
Noel was like, I gotta go back to sweep it
and and start working on Paul and Andrew's cake. And
and then.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
We saw the cake and we were like, that's the
cake topper.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's like it's like, well, girl, read the rest of it.
It's like this, this is this is no shame because
you know, we love we love the production designers over there.
We know that it's always the tight schedule and.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Talk about it impossible. Yeah, talk about an impossible.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Job, right. But at the same time, we also give
a lot of kudos to the because we pay attention
to to so we pay attention to the food. When
they are sitting in the Brady Pub or they had
the Beat show, We're like, where did they get that phone?
Because that meal looks good. Now we're looking at this
cake like maybe you missing a tier two from it?

(37:24):
Like like who who was in charge of the who?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Also?

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Who picked German chocolate?

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Mhm?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I'm like, I don't I don't mind the German chocolate.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Camilla saying Chanelius ai to make that cake.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Catering, She who has done catering for productions before, I
will feel feels free to criticize that cake. Do you
know what I could have done? And I could have
gone to the local bay and gotten two and put
them together and just and and I could have put
the spread the the frosting to make it look like

(38:09):
one larger.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
One, like well then where were you?

Speaker 14 (38:12):
I don't know, I don't make it out that day.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
They should have put you see, I feel like I
feel like if they had higher dj tearance as they
should have for this wedding, I would have gotten said
and been like, uhh, where the rest of this cake?

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Well?

Speaker 4 (38:30):
I think it's maybe because gay rights are being stripped away.
Lgbt Q plus rides are being stripped away in this country.
So they're like, oh, they got they got part of
the cake part either anything.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
You get a bigger cake?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
True that I would hope, you know, at least to
wash down the pain.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I mean, if they if they hedge all stare into
the distance of the of the rainbow, they could have
at least made a two layer cake.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
They said, they were like where do we look? And
they were like light number two? Do you see light
number two above there? It says two on it. We're
like what yeah, And they're like okay, action, We're all
like look over there. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I mean, you know, they it was beautiful.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
It was like I just saw the tweet about or
like somebody somebody put like a thing like a carousel
on Instagram of like all these tweets and some of
them we can't repeat on this on this uh on
this podcast, but there were there was some funny stuff
and the cake was what they said, it was a
straight hate crime, which which again love love to the

(39:44):
production team and everything, like there's no shade there. But
it just like that was such a funny thing to me.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
Yeah, I feel like it was a situation.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
They probably ordered a cake someone forgot to pick it up,
and then they had to scramble and they're like, where
can we get a quick cake? They found someone found
a quick cake and that was cake.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
I will just point out that for our tenth anniversary celebration,
we had a decent sized cake and everyone got us
slice and well.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
And some of us got to take it home.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, and we had leftovers, you know what.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's who should have did the cake? Cake art shout
out the cake art in West Hollwood. I think should
have did the cake. They are they are gay owned.
They would have made it look lovely and they probably
would have only needed a day's notice to get it done.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
And they could have made it like hour glass cake
or something.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yes, oh, they would have got it together nicely, you
know what. They someone would have said, make it a
rainbow cake and then there you are with two gents
on the top.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Love it?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I love it? But before that also, I don't I
don't know if you saw this, which I kind of
tripped out on because it's it's always interesting to know
like a character started on the show and then like
you're playing like the older version of it. But they
had a clip of of when Andrew was born and
also a young Andrew. Did you see those those clips?

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I do? I have seen. I mean, I don't know
if it's the specific what you're talking about, but I
have seen a few.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeat, what does that? Does that trip you out? Like
to be like you could go back and be like, oh,
like that's how he was born and oh that's him
in this moment. Does that? Does that ever look helpful?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
I think as an actor because like usually you just
get PLoP plopped into like the middle of a storyline
and they're like all right here, like make up the
imagine imagination of like what your existence is in this world.
But like I actually can go back and find reference.
And I love to anyone who's listening to watching, Like
I love when people tag me or send me things
on like Blue Sky or like Instagram, because that's like

(41:48):
education for me, I not eat it up. I'm like, oh,
that's so cool. I like to see like Shane and
Kim and all of their craziness. You know, so I
love it.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
So you just open the flood gates all I.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Love people, Tag me, tag away people, do it?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Send it to him. We also have to quickly talk
about once Paul and Andrew were announced husband and husband.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I was gonna ask, but I thought it might be
a sensitive I know, even when they were in the
hotel room getting freaky.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
Before the wedding, there was minimal.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
We're on peacock people, we're on streaming.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
I'm sorry, Hobby and Leo have been banging all over
the place peacock for this.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Now. Was it written as a hug?

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Let me check?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Okay? I love it.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
I know a lot of people chimed in with like
because of the Japanese erum, they don't kiss. So I
didn't know if that was that.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Or if this was some It wasn't that. It wasn't
that okay.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
That I would have I would have.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
I know, I know what it was in real life.
I out of respect to the parties involved, I can't
say yeah, uh maybe flip topics and we don't get
anyone in trouble. Yeah, okay, Eric, Eric by the authority
invested in me. I now pronounce you, Mary, take Paul,

(43:31):
then Andrew beaming they as they fold into a kiss,
and everyone applots.

Speaker 14 (43:36):
Okay, got it, thank you. I think we can infer
from there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Yeah, I don't. I I I there are a lot
of things that go on behind the scenes, and I
don't think. I think when we didn't kiss, I personally
was like, oh, okay, but then I don't know, it
just never became a conversation because again, we moved so fast, like.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Oh, they probably said cut and then before you could
even think about it, you heard those cameras rolling.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
To like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Because I know there were there were conversations about about
that as well. And I mean it was a it
was a lovely embrace. It felt loving. It felt very
like we did it, which is amazing. You know. We

(44:39):
were just I mean, you know, especially when we saw
although there was a moment when Andrew and Paul were
in the hotel room together, I was like, wait, y'all
are supposed to see each other. I was like, I
don't know who's the bride, because that would be my role.
But I was like, y'all are not supposed to see
each other to day of the wedding.

Speaker 7 (44:56):
That's right, Yeah, anymore, I don't know if they do.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
I didn't when I got married. We didn't.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
We did not know.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
The whole day. I don't think anybody does anymore unless
you're like super, unless it's like a big production. I think.
I like when my friends get married, it's more like
they don't see each other more because of the production
aspect of the wedding, not not necessarily that oh we
can't see each other.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Well, if if I get married, I want, like, don't
don't come see me, like I I want to be
getting dressed.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
You're gonna be in hair and makeup for hours.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I mean I only need to dress. I only need
a little touched up. I do need to probably be
senched because we will.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
No shade just like you know, yeahramatic effect.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, I want. I want the body to be bodying
because there's definitely gonna be soul food at the reception,
so I want to look snatched before I turned into
Sherman clump. But but yeah, like I mean, it was
it was great, like seeing how they were before the wedding,
especially like, oh, you have on a tie and nothing else.

(46:06):
I mean, I wanted them to pan down, but whatever,
it's peacock and it was great, and then you know,
the hug happened. We were just like okay, and then.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
You you wanted them to pan out. I was starving
myself for weeks. I was in the gym. I could
see my habs for the first time and ever. And
I showed up and they're like, you're gonna have a
shirt on and then they're gonna be covered up to
your chest. And I was like, well, this chest is
going to be popping.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Then yeah, and the chest was popping, the tattoos were out.
I was like, all right, Carlton, we see you.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
I think that was around the time or right after
that when when I talked to you a day of
Days and you said and you said something like you
were angry.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Oh yeah, I mean maybe maybe during Days of Days
I was just hungry because we were there so early.
And then it was just but yeah, the whole like
being shirtless on camera thing is kind of new for me,
so I'm learning tricks every time. No, but to kind
of put a button on the kiss thing like it
wasn't It wasn't like an uh an anti gay decision

(47:08):
or like a sensory decision. I don't think by anybody
there was no mal intent. Uh So, Yeah, I want
to put that out there, like to make sure brush
that under the rug. I did see some discourse online
about that, yeah, or like maybe because of the new administration,
they're trying to like like tone things down. I'm like,
it's not that.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
I just think there were conversations that I wasn't privy to,
and then I was like, oh, okay, we're.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Just gonna well I do. I am glad that in
the climate that we're in that we still did get
the Paul and Andrew wedding because, you know, we we've
always said that Days has always kind of been one
of the more conservative soaps, and we were very happy
with with the Will story line and him coming out

(47:56):
that led to Will and Sonny's wedding, and we're just
glad to continue seeing like that they are showing you know,
gay relationships and showing yes and showing that their favorite
you know characters in the show, how accepting they are
of it, and some of the things that they may

(48:17):
go through but also at the end how accepting and
loving everyone was. And you know, to see everyone attending
Paul and Andrew's wedding and having tears in their eyes
and being you know, so involved and so happy for them,
I think where we are it's important to see that,

(48:37):
and you all conveyed that beautifully, and so kudos to
you and Christopher Sean for doing that and just making
people realize that, like love is love, and you know,
it doesn't matter who it is as long as your
love because we all need it.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
I sat with my mom. I was just in Nebraska
this last week and it aired on Tuesday, and I
was there and I got to sit down with her
at the end of the week. And for a reference,
I had a very hard coming out story, which I
would probably say one day, but there there was a

(49:19):
lot of just stuff that happened around that time of
my life, and I never thought that I would ever
be able to be myself at all in my real life,
let alone be myself and then play that on TV
for other people to see. And so that's such a shock.
It was such a shock to me kind of had
to have this opportunity, but then also to sit down

(49:41):
with my mom in front of the TV and watch
not only me shirtless in bed with a man on television,
but then to have a wedding where she got to
see like Shane's speech to Andrew was like my reaction
in that scene. It was like, literally, really, those are
the things I wanted to hear from my dad in

(50:03):
real life, and then Shane is saying them to Andrew
and it's just like that. That was the thing that
made me well up the most during the day. It
was his little speech to me, and then to sit
there with my mom and watch it all, it was
just like such a surreal, kind of meta moment of like,
look how far we've come. Yeah, Like when I was
seventeen and I came out and we had it almost

(50:24):
broke up our family and it just became the worst
thing that could ever happen in the world. So now
we're sitting here watching this, it was It's still kind
of just baffles me in a beautiful way.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
But that's again, that's why it's important to like for
our media to show this, because I think it gives
people a different perspective and a better understanding. Even though
I feel like you should understand your own you know,
children and your own family members. But sometimes when when

(50:59):
you're able to see it, it can give a different perspective.
So I'm glad you got to share that that moment
with your mom.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
Yeah, it was in kudos to her because she's grown
so much as a human being in her own right.
Yeah and yeah, and she she champions me and she
loves like she's like she always is like who are
you dating? What's going on? Like she wants to know,
she does.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Mom wants to teach yes, yes, And then you get
past all of the ugliness and then then they get
full on into the traditional next question of when are
you getting married? When you get me the grab babies,
and I'm like, chill, chill. Huh.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, Well, shout out to mom a little because she
was We met during the Day of Days and she
hung out with my mom and aunt as they you know,
talk to everyone and got autographs and did all that
while we were working.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
It is dangerous what oh yeah, oh yeah. People don't understand,
like there were a lot of moms that came to
Day of Days and they were being summit, what is happening?

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Yeah, I flew her out and we like I got
her hair and makeup that morning and like did the
whole nine yards. She was she was living her best life.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
She was she was, she was, she was happy as
a clan, she was living and I loved it. I
loved it. But Colton, hopefully we will see more of
Andrew because I feel like the possibilities are endless, and
you know, they can work around you know, because people
will be like, why is Andrew there not Paul. I mean,

(52:45):
it's soaps. We can always work around that. But you know,
it's it's always good when when Paul and Andrew do
pop in town, and I'm glad that this was just
like a beautiful moment that they could share with with
the with the fans, and then you know, we continue.
I wish we saw more of their relationship, but it's

(53:06):
good to see that they were headed in a in
a different direction quietly, because it's probably better that they
did it this way, because then you wouldn't have had
the breakups and the fights and the cheating and all that.
Y'all just had a pure, normal, regular relationship, which is great.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Yeah, sometimes you need that, you need a little bit
of you need the light and I need the dark,
and you need.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
All of that, I don't think you're probably the calmest
LGBTQ couple on the show, because the others have had
threesomes and there was a triangle with a brother and
a sister, and then there was there was the the
you know, Will and Sid he had the baby mama,
and there was three parents. It was a whole thing.
So you're like quiet couple.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
And I think that that's like something that I've said
this before as well, but like Andrew and Paul, like
the rainbow represents the diaspora of the LGBTQ I plus community,
and I think that they're and it's it's a rainbow
for a reason because there's so many different colors and
and spectrums that are within that and I think that
you do need healthy, positive representations of what like a

(54:13):
to a gay couple can be. And I think that
that's that's what they are. And I do love that
so as much as I would love a little bit
of like a crazy cheating storyline, some some little spice,
you know, I'll I'll represent the nice guys for now.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Fine, we'll take you. Uh well, Colton, thank you so
much for for coming on and talking about the beautiful
wedding of Paul and Andrew. As Christopher Sean said, you
are an amazing talent and you really gave your heart
to the character of Andrew. And we really hope that

(54:52):
the new regime like wakes up and realizes that Andrew
can do so much more in Sale and with the
I S a Black Patch whoever they want to put
you in. But we hope that we see more of you.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Thank you, Thank you. There there have been conversations. I'll
leave you with that. We love conversations, we love a chat.
But I want to say thank you to all of
you because you for I really really love and like
seeing you guys at days and days was like my
friends are here. Thank God and you guys. And this
is not a small fee to have a successful podcast

(55:25):
like this, this that you put out weekly and and
you have such a positive, wonderful fan base. So thank you, guys,
and I really appreciate you, appreciate this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Of course anytime we you know, we love to have you,
because we got a chat in Kikey about all things Andrew.
So thank you for taking the time to be with us.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Thank you, guys, and thank you to the fans. I've
been I've been watching your your little comments and your
questions and your love, and I've seen it all. And
I send you all big love and hugs.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
And it doesn't have to stop here, y'all. Y'all make
sure y'all flood him with more love on on socials,
whether it's Instagram or Blue Sky, y'all show him some love,
show him some clips, whatever, just just show all the love.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Yes, please please at little Colton on Instagram Blue Sky.
I think it's like mister Colton little or something. And
I'm on Twitter, but and it is called Twitter, but
I don't use it anymore.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I think there's a lot of people that don't. I
don't even know what Twitter. I take that back. I
do people use Twitter for, but I can't say what
it is. But we all know that we know you know,
Michael on that note, thank you Colton. We appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
Guys Byelton, Happy.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
Sunday, Happy Sunday, Tequila Tequila time got.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
To Oh my goodness. I love them. They really should
have them on the show more often.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
There are two of my favorites se same.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Before we move on, I feel like we've covered everything
did we not? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
That cake was not big enough for Rachel to have
three slices.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Rachel ate the whole cake and went home.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
Happened?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Rachel said, baby, yell, a stress in my nerves. There's
the rainbow. She packed up some cake and she hid it.
I love it.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
The only thing I found disjointed was that she revealed
that she you know, her big telling Marlena, Yeah, j
next thing.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
They're at the wedding. All it was just kind of
just jointed to me. I was like, do you forget
what she.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Just like the discussion was, oh, well, now we got
to get to the wedding, so just.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
You know, just smile, we'll deal with it later.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Keep it, keep it. That was basically a keep a cute.

Speaker 6 (58:03):
Keep a cute.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
I was like, oh, okay, they're they're tabling that for now.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
Then we saw Marlene and make the call to Roman
and then it kind of you know, went off from there.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
But there were two pieces of info that we got,
or two conversations that we we had, the first being
that little tidbit that I'm assuming Eric is sticking around
so he can give us more information that basically him
and Nicole are not talking right now? Oh yes, so that,

(58:35):
uh is interesting. I mean I totally called that. But
at the same time, I want to know, I want
the tea.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
But I feel like this is this is them somehow
dealing with the character. Yeah, oh it is.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
It is dealing with the character. But as we've said,
let you know, we on this show have agreed. You know,
Eric and Nicole I think always had a time limit.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Well, y'all wanted it to be the end game. I
was fine with her and and well I don't mean
I don't mean y'all as in US, I mean y'all
fans fans wanted it because I remember doing that time
being like y'all wanted them to be together, y'all, And

(59:22):
I was like, I feel like her and e J
understood each other. They knew where each other were coming from.
They accepted each other all their flaws, you know, and everything.
And and I feel like, no, because because I feel
like they were they were right in the moment that

(59:42):
they were in before when they first were together. But
then everything that transpired is like it's like, okay, girl,
like we we closed in that chapter. We need to
be with somebody else. But you know, y'all as in
the fans wanted them together. So but now look at
that trouble in Paradise. But however, I think it's because

(01:00:02):
they were trying to deal with the character. But also
I'm glad that they did say she flew in for
the day to see Holly graduate, because I was like,
how y'all not gonna let this woman see her child?
First of all, y'all left her there in high school
to live with Maggie, and then you're not going to
fly back for her graduation? Oh did she get stuck
at the airport too? Are her Sydney and Sammy?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Oh my gosh. If they were on the same flight
that that that they would Sammy would take the plane down.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
That'd be a video on Twitter of you know, a
flight having to be diverted.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yes, I think we I think we asked this before,
but I'm old, I forget. Are we okay? Like if
they ever decided to recast Nicole, are we okay with
the recast?

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
As long as they get a good you know, as
long as they get a good recast.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
We we keep bringing her. Uh. But I feel like, uh, Natasha,
who plays Sloane could be a very nice replacement. Not
that not that I ever. I mean, we're only talking
about this because of the circumstances. Ari will always be Nicole.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
However, Comma life happens.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Yeah, yeah, And I feel like at some point it's
gonna be like y'all we dang that that's strong. I
do feel like at some point we have to like,
they're gonna be like y'all. We we have to do

(01:01:47):
we have to bring the character back in some way,
you know, whether it's you know, a couple of years
from now, five years from now, like Holly just can't
be around with no parents.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's not that's not it's not fair to
to the characters. Yeah. And then the second conversation, that
peripheral conversation that happened outside the wedding, which I want
to I want to get I want to ask Leo
Howard about this was uh for him to have a
full on sit down conversation with Grandpa Shane, with Charles Shaughnessy.

(01:02:21):
He must have been floored when he got that script.
Who Leo Howard take conversation because you know, it's like
grandfather and grandson, But this is like grandfather and grandson
who have never had scenes together before, and then it's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Well, I feel like Leo was probably Leo as in
Tate's just probably like do you want a scene? Great? Yeah,
I think you know, other people would have been.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Like, I'm other people, I'm other people. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
because I didn't. I think it's because I expected them
to have scenes together, but I didn't expect them to
have that full on sit down conversation where they were
bringing up the family history.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
I think that's an effect of this writing team. They
kind of are making the most of these Like I
think I meant we mentioned they tried to make the
most of these returns and not just have them kind
of pop in, pop out, to have some meaningful moments
with family members or friends or loved ones that they

(01:03:39):
wouldn't that in past. Maybe it would have been missed
or you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Know, well because you know why, because we would have
been like, hang on a man, how come they didn't talk? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
But you know what also strikes me is that I
feel like that conversation between Shane and Tate had more
depth than any conversations that Brady has had with Tate
in the past few months. Say that, yeah, and isn't
that just such a shame.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
I mean, we're just saying that it's Brady's been very
devoid of the storyline. They've had him very months to
meshed in the Rachel stuff and not not into this one,
which seems surprising when your teenage son is having a
baby and your Brady has well.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
In defense of Brady, he's got a lot of other
shit going on, and you know, and I just it
made it took the grandfather coming in and giving that
fatherly advice because the father is dealing with.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
A weirdo baby mama.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
A kid that's having some problems and throwing up and
I don't know, has ibs some you know, has to
go to the hospital every two seconds.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
So he, yes, Brady may have.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
Been devoid of the situation a little bit because of,
in his defense, his own life's ae mess. And yeah,
so it was the grandfather that came in and kind
of gave him that that meaningful advice like, but I
you know, but Brady, Brady could be a better father
to Tate, could have been a better But in his defense,
he's got some other ship going on, the other kids

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having problems, and yeah, you know, don't forget.

Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
They were threatened to take Rachel away.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
The CPS people were threatened to take Rachel away, all
while Tate was going through his stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
So I mean, at this point, Tager.

Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
What Rachel's an issue?

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Yeah, at this point, just take her tanker, tanker bye.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
You can do better, Okay, my little girl.

Speaker 7 (01:05:43):
To make them give her back, it is like forty
eight hours, issho, oh my gosh, okay, you can have
her back.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
We'd like, here you go. I don't know, I don't
know where she came from, but to take her back,
we see why.

Speaker 7 (01:05:56):
She is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Take back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
This is true.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
All right, Well now let's uh, let's move on to
our next storyline, which we are cracking, the case of
who shot e J. I love the fact that this
whole time EJ really thought Johnny did it, and then
Johnny was like, wait.

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
You for very long. I'm glad they stopped that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
And he he had such a like I felt that
relief from from EJ being like, oh my god. And
meanwhile I'm sitting there like, girl, you were air. So
it's it. I'm sticking to it, and it's it's and
I told y'all, it's never the person who you think

(01:06:53):
it is, but I feel like they're going to play
this whole Johnny thing out for quite some time, but
we keep getting little more tidbits on what happened. So
it's like, now we know that they argued EJ convinced
Johnny to give him the gun, he gave EJ the gun,

(01:07:13):
and then he left. Now we're trying to figure out
how did somebody get the gun?

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Shoot, there's a breakthrough.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Here, Detective Tony, Okay, walk with me. Now, First of all,
we know that EJ knows who the person is, based
on the fact that when he had turned around, he
was like, what are you doing here? Right? I think, no, okay, no,
because that doesn't make sense because he would have had

(01:07:48):
to have taken the gun, had placed it somewhere like
either in the fourier or something to which that person
came in found the gun. I did it at him,
he said, what are you doing here? Bam? The person left,
threw the gun in the bush where Roman then found it,

(01:08:11):
and then put it back in his stash.

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
I think that's exactly what happened exactly. That's yeah, found
a child.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Yeah, but the question still remains. I see.

Speaker 7 (01:08:27):
I think that points more to Rachel. I'm still sticking
with Rachel.

Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
Yeah, who was in the house.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
A child would also Like I imagine she came downstairs,
she picked up the gun, he turns around, does the
whole thing. That sounds to me like something a child
would do. Because when when we found it, when Roman
found it in the planter, I was like, even if
I didn't think it was Johnny back then, but even
if I did, I would wonder why Johnny, a grown
man would just a loaded gun in the planter like that,

(01:08:54):
like if he was trying to get rid of it.
That sounds to me like something a child would do,
not a grown person.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
But okay, remember like a couple of weeks ago I
mentioned like like what like what a white boy would do,
like they punched the wall kind of a thing like
that could fall into that category. Like he walked out
in a huff and was just like it's just like.

Speaker 7 (01:09:17):
It's just like in the safe or like you know
what I mean, he would he knew he stole it
from Roman, it seemed Yeah. Yeah, but I'm sticking with
with Rachel, but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Kinda, I kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I know we will not be putting up the chart
only because we didn't get new information as to who
did it. We have gotten information this week about who didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
Do it, but we know that was the gun for sure,
because there's a bullet missing. At least that's the perceived.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
Since there's a bullet missing, it's perceived that it was
actually that gun. Yes, now, I guess, depending on how
they want to write it, it could be that that
gun was shot somehow but didn't hit e J, hence
the missing bullet.

Speaker 6 (01:10:06):
Someone else came in with a different.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Gun that they kept on them, shot EJ and then
ran away.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
That could be see I think.

Speaker 6 (01:10:14):
But right now it's perceived that it was that gun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Yeah, I think in this moment, because it's so spaced out,
the cole flew that night, shot him and Wave and
then after the graduation.

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
That's why Eric and her a pissed Eric DISAGREEDJ that's
the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
There yet to buy it because because everything is so
spaced out, like this is one of those storylines that
it's actually really good and really intriguing, but it's being
like drawn out to where like to where like like

(01:11:03):
it's hard to like stay captivated into it because it's
so like, you know, just like dashed in you know
whereas if it was like a continuous like every day
of like a who done it sort of a thing,
then it would be more interesting, I think Fan Evans.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
In here, Okay, yeah, answer your question. That is a possibility.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
What bugs me is that there comes a point in
a storyline like this you you need to tell the
viewers who did it at some point and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Will It's just not this point, can I finish? You can?

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
No, at some point you want to. You want to
drag these who done it?

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Storylines out for months and months and wait till the
very end to tell the viewers who did it?

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
How and why?

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
Tell the viewers in the middle of it. So then
the second part of the story is the viewers watching
how the killer covers it up, how they get out
or shooter excuse me, how the shooter like gets.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
Out of it, around it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
That makes it a little more compelling than just getting
all of months and months of all of this sprinkling
and then at the very end everything comes out. That's
how they did the who shot or killed Kristen? When
it wasn't really Kristen. It was like months and months
and months. The ending was just ridiculous and it was
like I could have done without that whole story.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Well, it's kind of like who shot Charlie right? Like
it was it was a fun who done it? Right?
And then when it was janned.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
We were like, yeah that was a little so amaw.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
First, first, when you start these stories, make it somebody
that the viewers are going to be like interested in it,
being like, you know what I mean, like, don't don't
make it, you know, don't make it disappointment, but like
give us a little satisfaction while it's unfolding.

Speaker 7 (01:13:06):
I al still think it's a little bit of commentary
also just on the characters, the fact that it was
EJ who shot and no one really cares, you know
what I mean. Like I think if it were you know,
if Stephanie were shot, I think there'd be more of
a like ground swelling of to find out who did it.
But honestly, outside of like the Johnny stuff, no one's
really wondering who shot EJ. It's like, oh, he got shot,

(01:13:28):
Like oops, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
It's interesting that you say that because because EJ thought
it was Johnny, he himself did not care to join
in on the investigation. Now I think, now I'm wondering
knowing now knowing that Johnny didn't shoot him, is he
gonna go full force into finding out who did? Or

(01:13:52):
is he just a matter of exonerating Johnny.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
But it's also a matter of when is EJ gonna
remember yeah, because is it gonna be EJ that's going
to solve his own his own thing, or is it
like how like it just makes it more interesting to
see the investigation happen in not this sparsing. So I

(01:14:15):
hope this storyline kind of picks up now that EJ
knows that, like, oh yeah, like it wasn't him, but
now who wasn't And now it kind of starts the
ball rolling a little more rather than us being like,
you know, okay, we're gonna stick on Johnny for a
little while, but now can we move on to someone else?

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
I still keep remembering in the moments before the shooting,
EJ was drinking a drink. Yes, he was talking to
himself about how he won or he wins?

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
What was that about? I want? I I don't know.
I think there was a point to it. We don't
know it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
And it was also done by the previous writing regime,
so it made it may have gotten completely trast forgotten about.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
Yeah, but I keep remembering that too.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
I just if that's realated, you know how that if
that's going to play in the outcome.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
It just seems like the only thing that that has
been played, well, two things have been played repeatedly, the
memory stick, which makes him think, oh, that's why he
did it because Johnny came in with a gun, but
we forget that. It cuts off because he took the
memory stick out and then uh, for a minute they

(01:15:37):
were showing him just being like what are you doing?
So like, I don't know if anything else before that
is as significant, but that's all they keep showing. But
I also feel like when they start these, they themselves
don't know who the killer is and it keeps changing.

(01:16:01):
M do you know what I mean? Like like I
feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
I'd be curious to know that with these and like
with the JAM thing, like was it always jam? Was
it supposed to be someone else? And stuff happen and
it couldn't be that person, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
You know, the actors know.

Speaker 7 (01:16:20):
I'm curious if the writers actually, I mean, I would
guess they know, even if they don't tell the right
wall that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
I don't I don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
Well, and again, the previous regime that started this story
could have had an entirely different outcome. In mind that
the new regime could have retooled or scrapped completely.

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
And you know, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Know, I mean judging by what we know with like
Charlie's who done it, because people kept saying like, oh
that changed so many different times as far as and
no one knew who it was until it was like, oh, okay.
So I feel like it'll be some rising to know
if the writers initially started off with like, Okay, this
is the person who did it, or if they're just

(01:17:06):
kind of like, like it could it could be, like
it could be this. But but I feel like this
is why I wish they filmed closer, because then they
could always just kind of play with it more.

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
You know, I'm so tired of hearing people complain how
far ahead they tape, Like it's just how they have
to tape.

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
To stay on the air.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
It is what it is. It's not going to.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Change mm hmmm, unless unless we have another pandemic.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
That's the only time it's changed in the past.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Pace Even then, they caught up, they caught up quick.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
But I think I think the reason why people complain
about it is for like a couple of reasons. One,
when you when you start something, you just kind of
have to like keep it going. And so like if
it was a shorter amount of time, like you have
to wonder like if certain storylines would have been slightly

(01:18:06):
different if if they didn't have to film so far
in advance. Also, oh man, there was another one that
I thought of that was really good that but I mean,
but there's also benefits to them filming so far in
advance too. But it goes back to like when they
film so far in advance, you know, it's almost like

(01:18:33):
why can't you add things later, Like if if like
one of the things Colton mentioned was like you know,
just kind of being available. Well, if they're not available
like in those two weeks you want to film, can't
you just film like a month later. I mean, you
so far ahead, like we ain't will see this until
nine months, so you can just make it work.

Speaker 7 (01:18:55):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
I'm just how they keep the show a float. Yeah,
I'm just a fan with open arms. But now Marlena
and Roman are are involved in and Johnny has been
truthful with them, which I'm glad he did, because then
it just kind of reveals like, you know again, like
he didn't do it. Yes, he was there, but he

(01:19:20):
didn't and they argued, but he didn't like shoot them.
So and now even even I.

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
Think that the grandparents are taking care.

Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
Of him, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
I thought it was you know, they're there, and I
don't know what would have been the alternative, like, but
it was just it was nice to see you know,
Roman and Kate and then excuse me, Roman, Marlena and
then Kate come in and kind of them being united.

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
And there's no like jealousy.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
With Kate about you know, the moment she walked in
with Marlena, because that could have been an easy that
could have been an easy low hanging. Oh now Kate's jealous,
you know. But they didn't do that and I appreciated that.
And they're all kind of united to help to help Johnny.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
They are old school, they have they have been through this.
Like I feel like they should have been like, what
do we need to do, Like we've done this before, right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Yes, yes, well they had because they had a good sense.
They had they had common sense. They had to get
the good sense to go gather information, get answers, and
then confront Johnny in a quiet setting, unlike Rafe, who
I completely agree with EG on this point. Johnny, what
the hell were you thinking giving Rafe any type of information.

(01:20:38):
I don't care that he used to be your stepfather.
I don't care that he raised you. He is an
officer of the law, that's where his loyalties lie. Of
course he's gonna go about to Jada.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
You Rsey, it was off the record, Yeah, right, idiot,
But but I get it, like he's he's another trusting person,
like like Roman and Marlena are he can feels like
he can trust Rape. I think I think it was

(01:21:10):
Ravee taking it to Jada, who Jada was like.

Speaker 5 (01:21:13):
Rape shouldn't have taken it to Jada because if he
really wanted to protect Johnny, he would have not gone
be lined to Jada, by the way, And I was like,
well that's kind of shitty.

Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
Yes, you know she's going to do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
You know, she warned him, She said, if if it
has anything to do with something illegal, like it, that's
when it's going back.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
Like have a nice day and walked out.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
If if he actually didn't want something, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Good day, Good day, Madam.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
No, if he.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
Truly didn't want trouble to come to Johnny based on
what he knew, he wouldn't have got He shouldn't have
gone to He shouldn't have gone to Jada.

Speaker 7 (01:21:57):
Yeah, he should. I think he came up. I think
he he is in the right about what is supposed
to happen, because ultimately, Rape is a good guy. He
loves Johnny. He wants to clear his name. Essentially, it's like,
let's get this taken care of before sit gets out
of hand.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
But the thing is he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Have the information, and that's the problem is that he
went to Jada with half of the information. He doesn't
have the information that Roman and Marlena have and Kate have,
where they could have not only offered up Johnny, but
they could to go ahead to approach Jada themselves. But

(01:22:34):
they had the information about the gun, about the timing
of everything. Brady had the information and as well, so
it's like they had all those pieces that actually could
have helped to exonerate Johnny. Once he got to the
police station. Rape didn't have any of that information, so
he just offered up Johnny on a silver platter.

Speaker 7 (01:22:53):
That's what I think Johnny.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
His point.

Speaker 7 (01:22:56):
What he should have done was convinced Johnny to go
in with him, explain everything that would have been the
good thing to do, not call Jada and sort of
wash his hands of it, or you know the other
thing that the.

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
Other thing that bothered me is Okay, when Jada came
and put Johnny under arrest for the attempted murder, I
was like, okay, So not only is she called Belle
the DA, and the DA was the one that okayed
that to happen. So Bell, Johnny's aunt, yes okayed data

(01:23:30):
going and arresting him for attempted murder on the half
assed information, Like you said, RSELI that Rafe had. I
was like, Johnny, I'd be like, you know what you
will suck?

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Well, I'm well, now that you mentioned, I'm wondering if
I really want to hear how thought processes on this,
because Belle has that information too, because she knows that
she already knew about the planted camera and she knew

(01:24:04):
Jaa no Bell. What I want to know what Bell's
thought processes were, because this is when Jada called her
for that with that information. It wasn't the first time
that she had heard about the camera she turned. It
was the first time she heard about her Johnny. EJ
already told Belle they remember they were having that.

Speaker 6 (01:24:22):
Conversation off the record moment.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Yeah, and mind you, that was in that moment I
was having a different conversation in my head because I'm like,
you are. You guys are having so many off the
record conversations about real crimes right now that I don't
know how this relationship is going to last. But that's
a conversation for another time. She already had that information.
She she knew about the camera, she knew that it

(01:24:46):
was planning. She doesn't know that EJ found the memory stick.
EJ has let her to believe that the memory card
is gone.

Speaker 7 (01:24:56):
I don't think though Johnny being arrested is wrong. He
should be arrested. It's whether we know he didn't do it.
So it's just working out so in the red tape.
So I think from Jada's standpoint, I don't think she
did anything wrong. I mean, is a suspect. She can't
wait around to say, oh, there may be evidence coming
from she.

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
Doesn't more like more solid evidence before just straight up
a red bring him in for questioning me that part.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Yes, but like, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Do you think this is a way to clear him?

Speaker 7 (01:25:27):
Yeah, I don't think she's.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Depends on who gives what information. That's the problem right
now because everybody, everybody believes that certain pieces of information
could exonerate Johnny, when really the fact of the matter is,
I don't think anything can exonerate Johnny at this point
because the memory stick that EJ has does not show

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whether or not Johnny pulled the trigger. He got it
out and it cuts off just as Johnny's walking in
the room with a gun. So that does not exonerate Johnny.
The gun that that Roman found, he cleaned it. Remember
he said that he had cleaned the gun, and they
don't have and presumably they don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
The bullet, but there was a bullet missing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
There was, Yeah, I don't know if it was the
bullet missing or something. I think we did get information
something about like the bullet was degraded or something something
happened where they can't run a forensics test on the
on the slug that came out of EJ. So that
doesn't exonerate him either, truly. Unfortunately, the only thing that
is going to exonerate Johnny is if EJ remembers who

(01:26:45):
did pull the trigger?

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Well, maybe we're full seam ahead now that Johnny's been arrested. Yeah,
or in the words of Michael Madis, what that's what
you did. A little while ago. You were saying something
and then you were just like.

Speaker 6 (01:27:03):
Whatever, beautiful gowns.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
I've probably lost my train of thought and was like, yeah,
which is a shame too, because I really.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Think that it's a shame that he lost the train
of thought.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
No, it's a shame that, you know, Johnny now has
to deal with this because I do feel this is
the first time and I don't know how long that
I felt like Johnny was actually starting to find his footing,
both professionally and personally.

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
You know who's gonna be a fact.

Speaker 5 (01:27:31):
You know who's gonna get the phone call and be like,
god damn, yeah, she.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Was walking in there and be like I knew it,
and Andrew didn't get a two layer cake because I've
been stressing about you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Well, he was arrested right in front of her bakery.
So she's gonna she's gonna know pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Oh my gosh. I hope on Monday, Like I just
I just want some reason, want to see this play out,
Like you just see Chanel like they do the camera
in such a way that Chanel's like looking through the
window like and then she comes out like like with
the apron, like, what's happened, Johnny? What did you do?

(01:28:12):
Like very that?

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
No, if I were Chanel and she had been through
everything with Johnny this past year and now he gets
arrested for attempted murder like I I don't know how
I would react as his spouse in that situation.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
Yeah, from her, even after she asked him, like we
know he didn't choow EJ, but that was his opportunity
to complete with her and say I did show up
there with the gun. I didn't do anything, but he's
basically still keeping that from her.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Yep. Yeah. I was also kind of like, Okay, you
made up with with EJ very quickly, Like this whole time,
you've just been upset, so upset that you almost shot him. Hm,
And now fine, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
But it was interesting where that came from. That he
looked at EJ like that, you know the realization that
Johnny had that EJ this whole time thought that it
was Johnny and was keeping his mouth shut.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
I think that that really did it for him. That
really I think he was trying to let go some
of that anger already and the realization that his dad
loves him that much that he believed his own son
shot him and was like, we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
I think. I think also, we've just been seeing we've
been seeing uh, what's it called him kind of wanting
to forgive.

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
I think just holding on to his anger, yeah, displaying
kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Yeah. So so yeah, all right, well that's it for that storyline, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
Oh, I will put a point at one point though,
if Johnny somehow gets back to work at Gabby Chic,
you can't do the same trends two years in a row.
In marketing, Cowboy Carter worked for last year because we

(01:30:29):
were deep in the throws of Beyonce's concert. It's not
going to work a second year again, unless you're going
to actually tie Beyond s herself to it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:40):
In Salem world, it can work two years in a row.
It'll be the most successful thing and we'll just.

Speaker 6 (01:30:44):
Have to go with it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
But also, when you're shooting this nine months ago and
you're trying to figure out what would possibly be still
popular nine months later, I'm actually surprised people bring up
this is like the second like production that's brought up Beyonce,
And I'm like, now, listen, I'm not opposed to it,
but I'm also like, what's y'll do it? You don't

(01:31:09):
have to pay for that?

Speaker 5 (01:31:11):
No, they probably didn't have to pay for you know,
the Home Madonna concert and Iceland thing either. Oh yeah,
I'm just mentioned a public figure like well, the term
cowboy Carter.

Speaker 6 (01:31:24):
No, probably if they didn't have to pay, or if they.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
Didn't get sued about using a character name from another
production Sloan Peterson, which was from a very popular nineteen.

Speaker 6 (01:31:35):
Eighties movie Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
If they didn't get in trouble or have to pay
for that, because I feel like in a film or
production's copyright, character names are included, like character characters are included.

Speaker 6 (01:31:48):
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
Also, it's Days of our Lives on Peacock like visibilities.
Probably if the lawyer got a hold of it, they'd
probably just be like, let them have it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Well. Also, I kind of secretly want to see this
this photo shoot.

Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
The cowboy Carter. Yeah, cowboy Gabby on a.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Horse look at that horse. Look at that horse. All right,
let's move on to because we have a lot to cover,
plus a special announcement later on coming today. This show
is very jam packed, and I don't think we're halfway
through it, so let's go through the kurious truth. I'm

(01:32:33):
gonna say this, and I've kind of been saying it.
You know, I'm usually a fan of with open arms.
I just don't like how they're riding Xander, and I
especially don't like how Xander and Sarah are at the moment.

(01:32:56):
It's like it's like there's no oh love at all,
and I'm just like, I'm like, I'm like, what is
what is happening? And it's like I'm trying to think
ahead and be like all right, like yeah, I'm just
trying to see like where they're going with this, but

(01:33:17):
like I can't. And the more I watch it, the
more I'm like, I y'all have made Xander suddenly so
diabolical that after making him so lovable, it's like it's
kind of hard to think, like, oh, we're here again.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
I mean, I think the majority of fans agree with you, Tony,
to be sure, but I come at it from a
perspective of if the problems come out of nowhere, then
I will protest if the problems are already there and said,

(01:33:59):
couple just choose to ignore them or move past them.
But then something will happen and they just circle right
back around to it. Then I find it at least believable.

Speaker 5 (01:34:10):
But that's where I'm at with this, That's where I'm at.
I buy it because they were suppressing their problems for
so long, and when something like that happens and they're
like suppressing it, and it just all blows up. And
so that's like just ursel I said, that's what kind
of makes it believable for me.

Speaker 6 (01:34:28):
Do I like it?

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:34:31):
I like them together in Copasetic.

Speaker 5 (01:34:34):
It's entertaining to watch them fight with each other, definitely,
because they seem really strong.

Speaker 6 (01:34:38):
The shade is real.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
It's disappointing that they, you know, broke them up for
a little bit, but hopefully they'll eventually. I'm hoping they
eventually find a way to accept one another.

Speaker 6 (01:34:52):
It just looks kind of bleak right now.

Speaker 7 (01:34:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I think the the like reveal is it's
like zero to sixty. But I think they've laid the
groundwork that this couple has sort of underlying issues that
were eventually going to come up. It's just I think
them coming the way they came up was very fast.
I think it's dark, but I think they laid the
groundwork from it for the past year.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
But I just feel like at the point of when
they got back together and got married, that all all
of the situations that they had been through that led
them up to that point, we weren't things that they
were suppressing. Well.

Speaker 7 (01:35:42):
Actually, I think the mom's stuff was a preview to
all this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Oh Xander's mom.

Speaker 7 (01:35:49):
Yeah, and the way he reacted to thinking it was Brady.
It was like a little bit of a startup to
this of Sarah being confused and not want you know,
he well, he tried to kill two people before all this,
so it's like, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
But I just feel I feel like it's like even
going through that that Xander learns to grow a little bit.
And I think for me again, going because he was okay,
think about that he was willing to go through so

(01:36:26):
many lengths for someone harming Sarah, that yes, it would
be very hurtful at the fact that she kept this
kind of secret from him, and yes it would be
very hurtful that he felt betrayed, But one would think

(01:36:51):
that you learned from the past of what you could
have lost and not having made those same mistakes. Get
So it's just weird that you grew the character a
little bit, but then you you brought them back only

(01:37:12):
to be in a situation where I feel like most
of us are like, huh so now and then now
there's this now Philip kind of as a has a
upper hand of like, you get out of line, and bitch,
I will wreck your world because I'm keeping you safe.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Well, it's ironic that you think that, Tony, because you're
basing on the assumption that you know, you would think
that Xander would have grown, where Sarah pretty much admitted
she had no assumptions that that was the case she
and so she's basically punishing Xander for being exactly who

(01:37:55):
she married.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Yeah, but it's I don't know, it's I feel like
it's so muddled because like even when he attempted when
he when he attempted to shoot Philip beforehand, it just
seems like you will put him in those situations where
it's like, Okay, you got out of it, like, bitch,
learn right, but yet you then have him get so

(01:38:21):
upset that he goes and beats Philip. Philip up and
now he's back in the same position of like, don't
tell because I don't want to lose it. It's like
how many, like how many times within the past couple
of years he's almost lost everything and then he does
something again that makes him almost lose everything, especially now
after like gaining so much, and now we're gonna put everything,

(01:38:46):
including your marriage at risk. And also in this, in
this situation, Philip North, Sarah should have the upper hand
on Xander. Zander shit. Xander's the one that got portrayed.
Xander was the one that got lied to, Yet he's

(01:39:07):
the underdog in this situation, which is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
I mean, I'm gonna give it to Philip a little bit.
I mean I feel like he's all the bruises and
the beating he took. He think he's earned the right
to have the upper hand right now.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Sure, But I'm just saying in again, in the trajectory
of it all, Sarah lied and kept a secret from Xander,
but somehow, instead of Xander being hurt by it, she
has the upper hand and being like I knew you
were gonna do this. I knew you were gonna act
like this. Now you can't see your daughter. Then you

(01:39:41):
have Philip, who portrayed him and lied and committed fraud,
who he beat up, which I still don't get that,
who is now saying I'm gonna keep you out of jail.
I got the upper hand because I can crack your
world and rocket any second I want to. It's like,
how is it that the two people that betrayed him

(01:40:02):
have the upper hand in the situation.

Speaker 6 (01:40:04):
Because he got violent? I know, but like that's in
everyone's mind.

Speaker 5 (01:40:10):
That's a whole lot worse than like forging a letter
or telling a lie and keeping a secret.

Speaker 6 (01:40:15):
But it's dangerous now.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
But it's why did What I'm going back to is
the why. And this is not like the Salem world.
This is our world of like writers, why, like why
why are we doing it this way? Because it should
be this way? But we're going this way.

Speaker 7 (01:40:37):
I think they're also in a little bit of a
time crunch there, because I think we see they're starting
to set up certain partnerships or certain love interests. I
think we all know what's coming down the pipe here,
and I think they're trying to get Yeah, we saw
some of it this week. We know who's coming back soon.
I think they're trying to set up new people for

(01:40:57):
these people, and they need to get get them unmarried
as quickly as possible to coincide with all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Oh yeah, I get where you're saying that. It's not
even on my radar. I think I'm just I think
I'm just too in the moment, Brady.

Speaker 7 (01:41:12):
And then we know who's coming Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
I don't know. I feel like I'm two in the moment,
like I I don't know, I don't I don't care to,
you know, maybe I'm just having some like PTSD from
this us having to go back and forth and back
and forth and back and forth for the last two
years between real life and real life content on the

(01:41:38):
show that I'm just like squarely in the moment right now.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
To sum it up, this is a hot mess to me.

Speaker 5 (01:41:48):
It was destined to be this storyline, the way everything happened,
it was destined to.

Speaker 6 (01:41:53):
Be a hot mess. What I wish.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
They did a good job with Maggie and Victor, and
we've we've drawn parallel between Maggie and Victor and Sarah
and Xander their relationships. You know, you know, Maggie fell
in love with Victor, they got married. They would get
into this pattern where Victor would do something shady, Meggie
would find out about find out about it, she would
read them the riot Act. Maybe go quiet, move out,

(01:42:18):
always come back. They'd reconcile, and it was just like
this pattern they got into. They handled that better, That
relationship was handled better than this one where it wouldn't
really at this point you can't really see. You hope
for a reconciliation, but you just can't see it happening.
Whereas with Victor and Maggie, it got to the point

(01:42:40):
where like, okay, Maggie would you know, Victor would do
something and Meggie would get all raw raw about it.
You knew that they would reckon. It was never anything
but the relationship breaking. This what this is like all
on both sides, on Sarah side and Xander side. It's
just and you know, so I wish there was a
hope for a recon right now there's just not. But

(01:43:02):
it's different now. It's not that you can't draw the
same parallels anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
No, it's a it's a hot mess.

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
Yeah, I will say the text that I got because
I always get I always get a super random text
from my aunt about what's going on every week, and
the random text this week was why is Victoria blonde?

Speaker 7 (01:43:26):
I did do it like a double.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Take, explain to her because that's the kid they got.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Yeah, I was like, I didn't even notice that. I
was like, I was like that that kid is reacting
how we all would react to it. He walked over
and she was just like and I was like me too.
Oh sign note this is real life now. Paul posted

(01:43:55):
h after the director of the new James Bond movie
was announced. Uh. Paul posted a photo of him and
being like, you know, the next James Bond, And for
a moment, I was like, I can see that.

Speaker 7 (01:44:08):
Yeah, I can see it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Yeah, I feel like he could be up in the
ranks with like Pierce Brosnan and Idris Elba and Daniel Craig.

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
Daniel Craig, that's the one I could remember.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
I could I could see yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
Oh yeah. But now this banks the direction because you
know what, it's interesting. Everybody's so up in arms about
how this affects that Xander and Sarah. I'm still squarely
interested in how this pushes forward the dynamic of Xander
and Philip.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
Oh, it's just it's it's it's dangling meat in front
of a in front of a lion, but Xander's not
the lion. Mhmm.

Speaker 7 (01:44:58):
I think they're going to get back to the brother
love stuff. I know they're at odds now, but I
think that's gonna cool very very soon. And I think
they're going to get.

Speaker 5 (01:45:06):
Back to the for the sake of saving the family legacy.
They'll bury the hatchet and then eventually some shit will
go down where the.

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
Hatchet gets unburied.

Speaker 5 (01:45:18):
But yeah, I do think they'll They'll be copasthetic for
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
But I think that they have to because, as we
learned at the end of the week, they did a
recount of the votes for the hostel board and EJ
still won again. So now it stands to reason, and
and we already knew that a few people probably changed
their votes, like Greedy at least was one that changed
his vote, and he was the tiebreaker last time.

Speaker 6 (01:45:42):
Or EJ hired Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
And we all know he knows how too.

Speaker 7 (01:45:53):
Beautiful gowns, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Beautiful, beautiful gowns. But also I kind of I was
kind of like, if they switched it to Xander, Like girl,
y'all gonna have to switch it back whenever the hatchet
is revealed. So I'm kind of glad they just kept
it the same.

Speaker 6 (01:46:14):
Because, Yeah, I didn't mind that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like girl because if I was
if I lived in Salem and somebody sent me a
business proposal, I'd be like, no, thank you, because y'all
don't know how to run a business around here. There's
so many changes in higher ups that like who is
who is actually what who? And what is successful in Salem?

(01:46:40):
Quickly sweet Yes, but even that guy turnished at one
point with them damn biscuits.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
The beastro somehow manages to survive without ownership.

Speaker 6 (01:46:54):
Manager.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
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once said tidbits my favorite part, Well here's your favorite part.

(01:47:46):
Shere we are. It's tidbits and we're going to go
in the first tidbits with this should be partners question Mark,
So Navcat is part of the ISA.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (01:48:01):
It's a great analyst.

Speaker 7 (01:48:03):
Yeah, I'm okay with it. Yeah, it fills in the backstory.
It doesn't it doesn't interact anything we already know. It
just filled sort of fills in who she is.

Speaker 6 (01:48:13):
It's it's it's a what do they call it, like
a rewrite ratcon?

Speaker 5 (01:48:17):
That makes that doesn't It's not like that's not like
really what it makes sense as well.

Speaker 7 (01:48:24):
Yeah, I think it's not really bread because we didn't
we didn't know anything different. It's not like they told
us she was a school teacher, you know what I mean?
And now they're saying she's an ice age and we
just we just never knew.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
Yeah, And you know, another reason I'm okay with this
is because I'm okay with letting Kat and Chad go
at this point. Yeah, because you had, you had your chance.
They still have great chemistry. But the fact that we
are she's been on the canvas for a year, We've
had months and months of great chemistry and not a

(01:48:55):
nothing has happened since I'm okay with letting the go
at this point. It's it's it's too late in my book,
unless unless you're literally gonna have them have combustible, you know,
off the charts. I can't take this anymore. Sex, which
is another amle to go, and I'm totally okay with it.
But unless you're gonna do that at this point, the

(01:49:16):
slow burn is dead.

Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
Yeah, it's a good way to and also if it
does explain the Clyde the Clyde connection through it, so
it's like, okay, I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Yeah, I guess you.

Speaker 7 (01:49:32):
Wait.

Speaker 6 (01:49:32):
Okay, So, so what confused me? And maybe I just
don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
I s a FBI workings So Rape was supposed to
be working for the FBI.

Speaker 7 (01:49:42):
Yes, he is working for it's a it's a joint.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Project, interagency task force is what.

Speaker 7 (01:49:49):
They call it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
Okay, that was my that was my disconnect. I was like,
but wait, he was with FBI, and then I just
kind of reconciled. I'm like they probably worked together yea,
and enter what do you call it?

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Interagency task force?

Speaker 5 (01:50:04):
Okay, And they're looking to find out how EJ got
the financing to buy the hospital.

Speaker 6 (01:50:10):
Yes, that's their goal.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
Yes, because they know that the money didn't come from Demera.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:50:17):
And they also seem to be playing up, which is
something that is from way back then that they're bringing
up this idea and we'll talk about it later. In
another another tidbit, that Demurra has always been crooked, which
is really how the story Demurra started way back then.
Demurra was not was never really a legitimate company. It

(01:50:38):
wasn't really until they started doing the like EJ Chad
stuff in like grooming them to be CEO, that they
wanted to make it sort of a legitimate company, but
that it very much was up front for Stefanoda launder
money and you know, a front for the mob and
all that kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:50:54):
Stuff, So that even that it still didn't make sense
that Vivian wanted to use the company to for drugs
despite the history.

Speaker 6 (01:51:04):
That still.

Speaker 7 (01:51:08):
So yeah, I'm buying it.

Speaker 6 (01:51:13):
Let's see what I'm willing to see where they go
with it.

Speaker 5 (01:51:15):
It's an intriguing development, especially like we like Anneline McCord,
and we've always said we want we wanted them to
give her a vehicle to remain on the show and
give her better, better content, vendor, something better to do
than to Yeah, like everyone mentions other than spilling mustard
on Chad and then then playing blue balls with each other.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
I I'm okay with it. I think I kind of
wish that this was her origin story rather than the
whole Abigail thing. I think I think that's where I'm like,
I feel like there was something great with the whole
Abigail thing, and then when that, when Abba Fail happened,

(01:52:02):
it was kind of like, Okay, now it's almost like, well,
what are they going to do with her now? And
then for months we just watched her like chan yeah,
and then now all of a sudden, it's like director,
and now I feel like there's more of an interest
in her, and I just kind of wish this started before.

(01:52:25):
There's a part of me that that feels like either
one can be successful. There's a part of me that
kind of wishes she was Abigail, and then there's a
part of me that's like, Okay, since she's not, I'm
cool with the with the is a thing. Yeah, I'm
actually posting on on our Instagram at the moment, would

(01:52:49):
you rather Kat Green be an ISA agent or Abigail
and see what people say? Okay, let's see what happens. Uh,

(01:53:19):
there we go. I have put that out there in
the universe.

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
I also going to put out in the universe. Who
do people think? Shot EJ. Souse. It's time to hear
other people's guesses as well, rather than our own. It
would be interesting to hear.

Speaker 5 (01:53:41):
Someone someone in the chat room said it was Kristen,
but Eileen Davidson.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
It was say most people are are for her to
be the I s A agent.

Speaker 6 (01:53:53):
H I mean that that her being Abigail?

Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
Like that's you know, that's it's so it's so far gone. Yeah,
it's so far done. Like if they want to bring
Abigail back, they're gonna have to get someone someone else
and do a new she's a live storyline. Did they
ever find her remains? I lost trying to Did they no?

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
No, no remains? It's an empty, empty cemetery. Clyde's in
a coma.

Speaker 6 (01:54:17):
We got no answers and no they and there was
never any like. It just was dropped.

Speaker 7 (01:54:24):
Yeah, okay, it was James Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Y'all are so stupid.

Speaker 6 (01:54:37):
He shut himself, but it was James Scott.

Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
Yeah. This, I think we can move on to the
other storyline, but I'll tie it to this one because
I when we were talking about we're talking about how
Kat's backstory, what they're bringing up now kind of makes sense.
The one person that came to mind of me to

(01:55:00):
me was Jennifer. Because we're now with this raccon, it
is assumed that Shane knew the entire time that all
that stuff was going on when Kat was pretending to
be Abigail. There's no way he didn't know that that was.

Speaker 7 (01:55:18):
Her, did he?

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
I didn't get He had to have because remember Kat
said the ISA paid for her surgeries.

Speaker 1 (01:55:28):
Yeah, so he would have known what.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
She looked like. He would have kept track of her.
There's no way Shane didn't know what Kat was doing.
And if this was if this this had to have
been another assignment continuing with her previous assignment for the
is A. So imagine Jennifer's reaction if Shane knew the

(01:55:50):
whole time.

Speaker 5 (01:55:51):
I need a visual I need a visual representation of
that for me to connect that Shane knew. Okay, so
I've lost that whole situation was kind of okay, so
so many players, but we don't need to go through
it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, okay, I got it. Yeah yeah,
But I'm just saying, in my mind, that's what happened,
and that's what makes sense. And on top of Jennifer
being pissed at Kat for all of this, I can't
imagine her fury if she finds out that she knew

(01:56:28):
the whole time.

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
If he did, yeah, that's a big and I mean
I'm sure he did it for the sake of a
mission and you know, couldn't tell or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:56:36):
If he did, No, that would be a betrayal.

Speaker 5 (01:56:39):
Yeah, and mad mad Jennifer is not a fun Jennifer.

Speaker 6 (01:56:43):
Well, I would not.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
Want to be.

Speaker 6 (01:56:46):
I would never want to be on the receiving end
of a Jennifer Horton tirade.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Well, here's the thing. To me, the way the reason
that makes sense to me is because that, to me,
is a valid reason for Jennifer to be upset if
that was the case, I'm totally on board with Jennifer
just being totally pissed at that. This what she's pissed
off at right now about about Chad continuing his you know,

(01:57:17):
quote unquote friendship with Kat and then now also trying
to get into JJ's business. I'm like, girl, you're these
people are grown. Go away.

Speaker 6 (01:57:28):
She's a mama bear though, like, but they're grown.

Speaker 5 (01:57:31):
Her opinion is it makes sense that she'd be you know,
I bought it that she would be upset with, you know,
after what Gabby did to Julie, Like, I get it,
and it's not fun to watch if if the you know,
if everyone's if everyone's happy all the time, whenever beautiful
gowns move on. Sorry, I started rambling and I was like, nope,

(01:57:54):
you gotta you gotta stop room.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
Well moving on. Yeah, are we to the meddling mother
in law?

Speaker 7 (01:58:08):
That?

Speaker 6 (01:58:09):
Yeah, that was kind of it.

Speaker 5 (01:58:11):
Jennifer's not happy about Chad and cats, She's not happy
about JJ and Gabby.

Speaker 3 (01:58:16):
No, that seems pretty dead.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
And Thomas spilled the tea about JJ and Gabby.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
Or whatever this kid's gossip. They're playing monopoly. Oh yeah,
remember he took, he keeps, he keeps us meeting your.

Speaker 5 (01:58:36):
Wipe's grandma Jennifer off the bne.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Yeah, all right, well let's move on to some old friends,
Chad and Gabby.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
Gabby is long overdue.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Gabby was like, Babe, listen, I need I need to
save Gabby. She you need to you need to get
it together. Chad, you need to get back on board.

Speaker 7 (01:59:03):
Hanney, I have to say I always was a big
I was always more of a Chad Gabby fan than
Chad Abigail. So I liked this. I feel like it's
been a long time coming. They find these two kind
of bury the hatchet. There's been enough water under the
bridge with these two over the years where they can coexist,
they can start to be a little bit friendly. I'm

(01:59:25):
not looking for a romance. We'll see if one, if
that's the direction the new writers are going in. But
I just liked seeing them two together in like not
being at each other's throat for stuff that happened ten
fifteen years ago. It's like, okay, we're we're both in
a different place now. Let's you know, let's move forward.
And Chads seem to be receptive. He usually is very

(01:59:46):
he still sometimes is very standoffish. I know that. I
think when Gabby helped with the Clyde stuff, I think
that probably went a long way to him finally like
releasing whatever residual anger he had it or over the years.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
Yeah, and then the one and only mister Tony Demera
is finally home and not a moment too soon. Could
have been sooner, it could have been a lot sooner,
a lot soonner, But I'm so grateful. His face comes
on the screen and I'm like, he's home. Yeah, yes, yeah, especially,

(02:00:26):
and uh, I'm glad that he's He's immediately immediately Tony
is in, like he's got his hand in like three
different things he's on track to, like looking at his
brother's like so neither one of you cares about the company, okay.
And then he's also got his hand in, you know,
EJ brought him up to his feet on the Johnny

(02:00:46):
stuff right away. And then he's also dropped that little
tibbit of you know, you know, have you heard from
Stephan because I haven't, and we dropped by and we
thought we would see him and we didn't. And so
he's immediately like plugged in, and I think it was
only was it only one episode that he was in
this week? Oh? Only one episode? And already's like boom

(02:01:10):
boom boom.

Speaker 1 (02:01:13):
He just should have been the head of the Mara
and not e Jane.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:01:20):
Well, speaking of successes, let's move on to this best
selling one Stormy Night. Just just get get the book
out already, like everybody, like I ambody likes it. Do
it under a pseudo name. And then she's like, she's like,
are you sure no one's gonna know? Well, at this point, y'all,
don't told too many people.

Speaker 8 (02:01:41):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (02:01:43):
The line of the week, what that I I hope,
I hope comes to fruition at some point on screen,
was like, what if my mom's read this?

Speaker 5 (02:01:52):
She has I just I hope she cleaned that book
when she took back after they took it when she back,
so I hope she took a lifesyle pad or whatever.

Speaker 6 (02:02:04):
She had that book in bed while they were.

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
Who did Yes, Well, that's what that's what was in them.
That's why, that's why her and Steve did it twice.

Speaker 6 (02:02:19):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
She took it then she took it back to the
hospital for someone to find and it's like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:02:28):
This how to guy, this is just making it making
its way all around the hospital.

Speaker 7 (02:02:34):
Yeah, any movement with this storyline, I mean, I'm assuming
they're trying to allude that this is like a fifty
shades of gray. I'm assuming that it's in that vein
because although I don't get the like, I can't have
anyone know it's me. It'll ruin my career.

Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
I'm like, but also just.

Speaker 7 (02:02:49):
Too pouring in the back lot, like what are you?
What are you talking about? I don't know how this
would Well.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
The other key thing is what she told Jada, which
was some of it is kind of true but also exaggerated. Yeah,
so like, imagine Justin Lee Harold, people reading your nasty
thoughts and things that you've done as you sauntered through

(02:03:16):
these streets. Yes, would you would you want? Would you want?
Would you want? Your name on a book titled These
Sauntered Streets by Justin Lee Harold.

Speaker 3 (02:03:29):
Look, they're pseudonyms for a reason. Okay, if she really
wants to, he can have a pseudonym. There's no need
to be ashamed of it. Like there's books I know
everybody brings up a d shades of gray. But there's
a ton of content out there. There's a ton of
movies and TV shows right now being made on the books.
Go and read some of these books. Sometimes read the books.

(02:03:53):
There is a huge market.

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
The same question if everybody knew about your nasty thoughts
entitled My Virgin Ears Tail Tales of Lustful Thoughts.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
By I mean, I'm not taking a copy of my
book signing into church in front of my priest. But
I'm a complicated woman, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:04:19):
It's like he is a complicated Look.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
Grown people can have grown thoughts. And the only the
only part of this that she should be a tiny inty,
teensy bitsy bit embarrassed about is her parents having her
novel in.

Speaker 6 (02:04:39):
Their bed and them getting nasty with that.

Speaker 3 (02:04:42):
That's the only part of this here.

Speaker 6 (02:04:46):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:04:50):
She's not in the bid. Let's let's put it this way.
She's in the She's not in the business of trying
to teach her parents new tricks.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
Oh my goodness, you know what? I feel like? That
should be r.

Speaker 8 (02:05:08):
S L.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
That should be that should be another members only? Wait? What?

Speaker 2 (02:05:18):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (02:05:20):
A members only?

Speaker 4 (02:05:20):
What?

Speaker 6 (02:05:23):
A transcript from an erotic novel.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
I wonder what I wonder if if that was the case,
if fans could could right it could give us a
title of an erotic novel, like what would our titles be?

Speaker 6 (02:05:45):
But for each of us?

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
Yeah, okay, I have to I have to remember to
post this. I'll do a post like I'll get a
picture of us and be like, if if Rseling was
to write an erotic novel, what do you think the
title would be? And it'll be the same for each

(02:06:09):
of us. It'll be fun to hear what would say
about that chocolate thunder with sprinkles are justin?

Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
I guess I could go for either one. Huh hm interesting? Okay, uh, last,
but not least. Our last tidbit is uh, you're hired.
I quit.

Speaker 7 (02:06:36):
The shortest shortest client.

Speaker 9 (02:06:39):
I know.

Speaker 6 (02:06:40):
That's what poor Sophia.

Speaker 5 (02:06:41):
I really fell for her in that moment when Melinda
because she was all excited about having Melinda on her side,
she was waving the retainer fee, she had an attorney
that had been in her shoes before.

Speaker 6 (02:06:53):
There was hope in Sophia's face and she just took
that balloon.

Speaker 5 (02:06:58):
And Brady, I know, Brady ruins everything.

Speaker 6 (02:07:08):
I don't even remember what he said to her.

Speaker 7 (02:07:11):
Just like stay away from my family or kind of
threatened her.

Speaker 3 (02:07:15):
At this point, I am on board for Sophia throwing
the biggest, loudest temper tantrum of her life because the
tears in her eyes at the end of that conversation
with Melinda just felt like she had reached the end
of her rope. Like nobody is listening, nobody is getting

(02:07:39):
how anxious I'm feeling. Nobody is understanding that I just
need something concrete to hold on to. I need answers,
I need a clear sense of direction. Everybody is just thinking, Oh,
it'll work out. It's like, no, there's a clock on this.

Speaker 7 (02:07:58):
But weirdly, again, why is it Brady the father grandfather
to this child looking up lawyers. Why isn't the parents
you know what I mean? Like, like, I understand maybe
this Amy's like them keeping Amy out of it because
of her reticence, But Brady should be the parent that's
in their corner. And if he's angry enough to sort

(02:08:19):
of threaten Melinda, he should be. Yeah, if he wants,
you should be angry enough to get them a lawyer
and help them.

Speaker 5 (02:08:23):
Yeah, he wants to get his fingers in the pot
and like, you know, dictate what's going to happen, what's
not going to happen. But he's not he's not doing
anything to actually help you.

Speaker 6 (02:08:33):
I mean, and I defended.

Speaker 5 (02:08:35):
Him earlier saying he's got a lot going on, but
if he's going to insert himself like he did, then
he needs to step up and actually help and not
just blow hot air as someone.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
Says, because this baby is on his way and y'all
need to figure it out any day now.

Speaker 3 (02:08:51):
My inner THEEA was just screaming to jump through the
screen because I was just oh, I wanted to scream
on her behalf.

Speaker 7 (02:09:00):
That's a name, my innerty.

Speaker 3 (02:09:05):
Nah different title Na Na No me Anarthia tells her,
tells her her her nieces what not to do.

Speaker 1 (02:09:14):
Mm hmm yeah. M all right. Well everyone, that was
your week of days. It's been a wonderful, great show,
and there's still more for you because we are now
going into our favorite part of the show. Unlike Shrei's
favorite part of the show, which are the tidbits, we
are now entering our segments and we're gonna start with mine,
which is Tony's amnshaw Rias NAPS Award now listen. Even

(02:09:41):
though I was like, you know, wow, he has the
upper hand of it all, I do feel like like,
kudos to you, Philip for for waking up out of
a comb and having the upper hand. But also you

(02:10:04):
just get my thruward just for this little tidbit. I
know it is. I know it's coming that you said
while lying in the hospital bed and being talked to
by Xander, and here it is coming up second because

(02:10:26):
somebody deleted it so I had to re upload it,
and here it is.

Speaker 12 (02:10:33):
You're trying to save this company for your own personal games,
just like Ayah, I think you might want to watch
your Tampa.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
So while all of us are watching our Tampa, I'll
be given a Philip Curioki is John Paul Lavasier the
official War and Michael Madison.

Speaker 12 (02:10:58):
You're trying to save this company for your personal games,
just like Hannah.

Speaker 1 (02:11:03):
I think you might want to watched your temper.

Speaker 5 (02:11:09):
I want to know who he like, how the choice, the.

Speaker 3 (02:11:14):
Choice, JP's choices are just he did something else this week,
and I thought that was going to be but it
wasn't it.

Speaker 6 (02:11:24):
He said something else. He said something else that I
actually laughed out loud.

Speaker 1 (02:11:27):
At that one. That one got me because it wasn't
very much like it was almost like a okay, bitch,
you tried it. I think you better watch your temple.

Speaker 5 (02:11:42):
Had Paulina come and visit him just before that, and
so they had a conversation with Paulina and.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
That's what it is. Also shout out to uh to
Christopher carry Thomas, who also probably could have should have
got my three Stamps Award two for spilling the tea
and just being like, I'm gonna get some cookies, all right,
and now we have all right.

Speaker 5 (02:12:13):
This caption that photo comes courtesy of Gabby and Happy
one year anniversary Sherry Menez Happy one on screen year.
She's actually gay for like almost Yeah. Anyway, this week's
caption that goes to at lady Likes on Instagram, throwing

(02:12:34):
it back to a conversation we had.

Speaker 6 (02:12:37):
What do you mean you've never had it? To Molly,
I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:12:45):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (02:12:48):
I feel like she definitely that with that caption. This
was oursel's face.

Speaker 6 (02:12:54):
Yeah, in conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:12:55):
If you if you go back to when I say
it that is in fact, I think I think Dylan
will probably send us a photo of this with R
S Eli's face and and me right here as uh As.

Speaker 3 (02:13:09):
Carsonal support your local vendors. Support, support the man on
the corner, Tony, go outside and go support the man
on the corner. Go get it the morning.

Speaker 6 (02:13:19):
Wait, wait, you need to be more specific when you
give the man in the corner in the valley. It
may be selling different guy.

Speaker 3 (02:13:31):
You can tell because they have it. They have it
right next to each other. There's that money, and then
there's and then there's the corner, all ran.

Speaker 1 (02:13:40):
By the same person, just different family members. M hmm.
And that was and now let's go back in time,
y'all too.

Speaker 7 (02:14:00):
All right, everyone, take you back to June twenty five,
twenty ten. Excuse me, when Salem in the audience said
goodbye to Alice Forrton this is yeah saying about it
Alice Morton Francis Reid, who actually passed away I believe
February of the same year. And then they had the
on screen death of the hell escort in here back
in June. But yeah, for there's a Remember this actually

(02:14:21):
ignited a little bit of an umbrella plot if you
guys remember, it sort of filled in EJ's backstory. It
revealed Hope and John Mary. It revealed an alliance she
had with Stephanel back in the day. So yeah, a lot,
a lot of good storylinek for this outside of the
fact of honoring Francis Reid and if you remember, go
check out Those are the Days extend it. I do
a little bit of a deep dive on Francis read

(02:14:43):
or excuse Alice core in the character kind of a
couple of memorable storylines in sort of being the matriarch
of a very kooky, dysfunctional family. To go check that out.

Speaker 1 (02:14:54):
Thank you, Justin and oh well, yeah, and that was
time for It's a Gear.

Speaker 3 (02:15:10):
And this week's is a gift goes to my returning favorite,
mister Tony Demera and his truly pure expression of w
t F. What the fuck just happened? Here? Yes, I'll
say sorry. I can't leave you kids alone. You've grown

(02:15:31):
ask people alone for two years. I can't leave y'all alone.

Speaker 1 (02:15:38):
That's very much what three two one one two three?
What the heck is bothering me? M? And that was
It's again, And now it is time for a little

(02:15:59):
bit of news and gossip and just.

Speaker 7 (02:16:12):
A quick little entry here before we move on to
something different. We have a little bit of an update
for the Day Plays Band, as we always ask you
to sort of provide us with the pictures or footage
if you go to any one of these fan events
and we want to thank are one of our favorite members.
Mister maybebe for giving us supplying goes with some picks

(02:16:33):
and some footage of the latest Day Players Band concert.
I think this was the one in San Diego.

Speaker 4 (02:16:38):
He went to.

Speaker 7 (02:16:40):
So yeah, some picks here of the day Plays Band
on stage, and then I think is there a video?

Speaker 8 (02:16:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:16:49):
Video, give me one second.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
Okay, did Michael Madis deleted? Again?

Speaker 9 (02:16:55):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:16:56):
I forgot to put these in because you know, we're
not supposed to have all the media and when we
have guests.

Speaker 6 (02:17:01):
On so that you know what, I'll explain after the show.

Speaker 1 (02:17:07):
Way, Uh yeah, yeah, where it was.

Speaker 6 (02:17:20):
Brandon Brandon?

Speaker 1 (02:17:22):
Oh so Brandon uh was not because one of his
kids ended up in the hospital so he had to
uh he had to stay back. Manny who was pictured here,
gave us that tidbit. Uh that that's that's where Brandon was.
But h here is a little sneak peek at what

(02:17:44):
you might have missed.

Speaker 9 (02:17:47):
M God reached out bless the ground and then stretched
out the sky were dreams. If you down with the durroon,

(02:18:13):
come on up.

Speaker 7 (02:18:18):
Yeah big thanks to Many B for sending those in
to us.

Speaker 1 (02:18:22):
He really took the assignment seriously, so thank you, Manny.
We appreciate you, and y'all make sure y'all go catch
the day Players. They are I'm sorry, y'all, make sure
y'all go and catch the day Players. Make sure you
visit their website, the Dayplayers band dot com to find
out where they shall be. All right, you guys, this

(02:18:44):
week didn't announce, but we're announcing it now. The Daytime
Emmys are not for a while, but as you know,
we like to take the time to honor our favorite
soap opera with our very own award show. This award
show is to recognize the excellence we saw last year
on Peacock's Days of Our Lives, so we are excited

(02:19:04):
to announce the official Audition Days Awards nominee.

Speaker 7 (02:19:29):
To start off, we are gonna pick it off with
Best Guest Star. We have Rita Leslie here played by
Maggie Carney. We have Diana Colver here played by Judah Chapman.
Excuse me, Chapman, Stephen Olsen played by Steven Snetzker, Liz
Chandler played by Gloria Loring, and Marie Horton played by
Marie Cheatham. So HESI your nominees for Best Guest Star this.

Speaker 5 (02:19:52):
Year and for New Character Best New Character. The nominees
are Aaron Green played by Lewis Tom Timio, Slissa Green
played by Kennedy Garcia kat Green played by Annlin McCord,
Fiona Cook played by Serena Scott, Thomas, Javey Hernandez played
by Alec cal Darone, and Joy Wesley played by Alexander Hopkins.

Speaker 1 (02:20:17):
And your nominees for the Best Character Return go to
Gabby Hernandez, Sherry played by Sherry Jimenez, the Ghost of
Leshan played by Remington Hoffman, Philip Kyriakiz played by Jean
Paul Lavasier, Jennifer Devereux played by Melissa Reeves, Eli Grant

(02:20:37):
played by Lamone Archie, and Arnold Finneger played by Galen Gary.
Those are your nominees for Best Character Return.

Speaker 3 (02:20:47):
We also have the category of Best Character Exit. Your
nominees are Nicole Demera played by Ariann Zucker, Stephen de
Mera played by Brandon Barosch, Eric Brady played by Greg Vaughn,
Teresa Donovan played by Emily O'Brien, and our beloved Doug
Williams played by the late to Bill Hayes. These are

(02:21:09):
your nominees for Best Character.

Speaker 5 (02:21:11):
Exit and nominees for Best Duo for this year are
Sloan and Melinda, Hattie and Bonnie, Connie and Cutout Lee, Julian,
Chad and Leo and Marlena.

Speaker 3 (02:21:28):
Next up we have the category of Best Couple. We
have Johnny and Chanelle, Xander and Sarah, Leo and Hovey,
Raife and Jada and Stephanie and Alex. These are your
nominees for Best.

Speaker 7 (02:21:41):
Couple, and Les Banali's nominees for Most Shocking Moment are
Tate arrested for Holly's overdose, Connie's reign of Terror, Fiona
runs over Sarah, Doug Williams dies, and Arnold Finneger returns.

Speaker 1 (02:22:00):
Congratulations to our nominees, and now it's time for you
to make the decision. Voting for the edition days awards
are done by you, and now it's your turn to
tell us who you think the winner should be. So
head on over to TinyURL dot com slash twenty twenty
five Dition Days Awards to cast your vote. You can

(02:22:20):
vote as many times as you like until next Sunday,
July sixth. Winners will be announced during our annual Diition
Days Awards ceremony, which will be held later on this summer.
So congratulations once again and have fun voting everybody, as
we have so much fun putting this together for youay,

(02:22:46):
and now, ladies and gentlemen, it is now time to
find out what is coming up this week on Peacock's
Days of Our Lives.

Speaker 2 (02:22:54):
Next week on Days of Our Lives, the truth is out.

Speaker 7 (02:22:57):
I'm being arrested for attempted murder.

Speaker 2 (02:22:59):
And he's just the beginning.

Speaker 8 (02:23:01):
You're not going to do it in crazy right?

Speaker 1 (02:23:03):
What's this?

Speaker 3 (02:23:07):
I can't let anybody see you A betrayal the way
I see it.

Speaker 12 (02:23:12):
Johnny has made a deal with the devil and a
book blurring all the lights.

Speaker 8 (02:23:17):
Wait, are you the author of One Stormy Night.

Speaker 2 (02:23:21):
On New Days of Our Lives only on Peacock?

Speaker 1 (02:23:25):
So much for keeping that a secret.

Speaker 6 (02:23:28):
And I think we are going to get the scene
of Chanel running out of the bakery.

Speaker 4 (02:23:31):
Did you see ye?

Speaker 6 (02:23:33):
Smock on and everything.

Speaker 1 (02:23:36):
Yes, all right, y'all, thank you so much for tuning
into Audition Days Now. Next week we are taking the
Sunday off to enjoy the weekend for once, so we
will be back in two weeks on June thirteen July
July thirteenth to give you a full dish of what

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Andrew wedding, And we want to thank you guys for
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I'm me Instagram at Justine Harold.

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Until then, everyone, enjoy your week, Stay safe and be lovable,
acceptable and respectful. Happy four are we celebrating that.

Speaker 7 (02:25:55):
Holidays? Happy holidays?

Speaker 3 (02:25:57):
Happy happy end of pride?

Speaker 1 (02:26:00):
Oh and yes and happy pride. Everybody, be prideful and.

Speaker 3 (02:26:05):
A prime month and a prime month.

Speaker 6 (02:26:09):
I think it still they're they're trying to end it.

Speaker 3 (02:26:12):
But and a Pride month, guys still raise those flags.

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Be who you bye everybody.

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