For The Kids! Dishin' Days week of Dec 1st-5th, 2025

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Speaker 2 (02:54):
Period six seven.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
All right, we've been gone for a minute. Now we're back. Well,
first off, how was everyone's Thanksgiving? Did everyone have a
good time? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I had a low key Thanksgiving, but it was it
was a good thing, a low key Thanksgiving, but a
good Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yes, yeah, I worked, but it was fine.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
What did you work? NBA can't tell. He's around famous
people's serving them, serving them slices of turkey, not serving them. Said,
I don't serve. I tell the servers to serve about you.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
It was busy. I got to hug all my babies
except one, so I was very very content.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm very curious.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I would have loved just like a couple of cameras
at your Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's loud. I mean it's loud. We played games. There's
a lot of prosecco going around. I yell at my
nephew because he says he doesn't like Selena, and he
knows that that is a kin to me. Yes, he
knows that that is blasphemous talk in my house.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Mhm dic.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I could full.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yes, he said it while the entire family was watching
the documentary. I was, I just lost my mind.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Wow I had. I had a very nice Thanksgiving. I
actually spent it uh with Derrek Yates who played Carrie
on Days. He invited a lot of people over and
we had a great time. We ate, we played games,
we played games, we play games, we were we were

(05:01):
literally over there till the wee hours of the morning.
And now I have a new love for the game
Phase ten. So there you go. Yeah, so it was
a good time. It was a It was a The
most important thing, is like when you do something like that,
is the group of people like because you never know
because you're like, it's new people. But it was a

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great group. We all got along and we talked and
we ate, probably way more than we should. And it
was a good Thanksgiving, nice, low key but fun.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
All of you had a wonderful Thanksgiving or Friendsgiving or
whatever you chose to celebrate with whomever you love.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, yes, yes, yeah, did we all say what we
were thankful for? What's one thing that I want?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Someone else?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Go, I I am thankful for all, for all of
my babies. My babies are happy and well, well not
all happy, not all happy, but they're they're healthy, and
I'm I'm blessed to have a close relationship with all of.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Them, so I'm always I have one that I'm stupid
for not thinking of. Uh, the one that's been whining
at me outside my bedroom door for the last twenty
minutes for his dinner even though it's two hours away.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh yeah, justin what about you?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Thankful for health?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
That's definitely important.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
We take that for granted.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Sometimes someone actually asked me this and I and I
gave them a list, and one of the things were health.
I also said I was happy for I was grateful
for and thankful for my mom and friends and opportunities. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yes, And we are thankful for all of you Udish
Days viewers who come joining us every Sunday, and we
hope that you continue to join us in the new year.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yes, Oh my gosh, it's going to be eleven years
next year.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh my god, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Anyway, Well, now on to more important stuff this week's
episodes of Days. What did we think of this week's episodes?
First of all, can I tell y'all. I so it's
been a very busy week this week, and I was like,
oh my gosh, I have to sit and watch days.

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And when I went to Peacock and clicked it said
the next episode I was supposed to watch was Monday,
November twenty fourth, and lo I was like, I was like,
oh my god, I have ten episodes to watch. But
luckily when you watch it on Peacock, they go pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, if you get it at the right time.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
It even like skipped, at least for me, Like there'll
be times I'm watching it and there's no ads like continue.
It's like a technical It's probably a technical error on
their part. How do they just don't have enough ads?
I don't want to be shaded like that, but you
know they just it just goes by really quick.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, or they'll just have like one or two short
ones and yeah, it quite quick.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah. So I had to catch up, which I was like, oh,
I feel like now I'm into it because you know,
the past the past month or so, I've been like
slightly checked out and just been like I don't know
what's happening. It's it seems boring. But this week I've

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been like, oh.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
You know, what I heard happened that the new writer
were actually working off of old outlines, like they were
writing off of outlines that were before they came in,
and now everything we're seeing now is fully their their outlines,
their content, their stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Why.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I don't know, but that's just what I heard, and
that's the reason it felt kind of discombobulated, like we
were seeing a difference in how they were telling the story.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, that could be why.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Like now it's kind of things are kind of like
there's things in motion now that that are keeping me
keeping my interest.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
You mean things are yeah, things are more interesting now.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah. Yeah. I think they're slowly getting the pacing together.
I think that's that was our biggest issue, was like
we're liking what they're doing in terms of like the family.
It's not for like melding storyline together or bringing people
together was really nice. But I feel like they're they're
getting they're finally getting the pacing a little bit better.
So it's not you know, it's it's like the old

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you know we think about like the heyday of days
or our head of days, like the nineties were like
stuff was a lot the storylines were a lot more
progressive or a lot more slower back then, but I
feel like they held our interest.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah that was the key, Like, yeah, whatever for shit
to happen, but we were there for it.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
So I feel like they're these writers are very old
school in that sense, but also like, you know, you
have to sort of keep up with the times, and
things are different now in terms of budget and scope
and everything, so it's you know, you kind of have
to move the storyline a little bit faster, which I
think they're starting to do. I thought this week was
like an info week, but I thought was like a
good info week, you know, like I was setting some

(10:41):
really good stuff up. So yeah, I mean I'm really
interested what's going to happen?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, me too, are Sally.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I agree with everything you guys said. You know, I'm
I'm really intrigued about where things are going, Sane.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
There are there are certain things where I'm like, huh.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Okay, and like, even if things don't go necessarily the
way I want them to go, I'm still like, I'm
still I don't feel like I'm going to be massively disappointed.
Let's just say that.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
No, I think I think there's some things that are
happening that are intriguing, and I'm kind of like, I
actually put my phone down to be like, huh, what's happening.
It's really bad? Like we I I need to in
the new year be off my phone more. That's that's

(11:37):
going to be a resolution so I can enjoy things.
But speaking of enjoying things, let's enjoy this moment. Shall
we of us trying to say dish days altogether? So
let's break it on down everyone, It is now time
to start. Wow, that was pretty close. That was pretty close.

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Let's start off our top storylines with the first one,
Psychle Besties. We are talking about the newest residents.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Of Bayview in the adolescent ward.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
In the adolescent First of all, the fact that you
have to have an adolescent war, but that's a lot, okay.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Can I the kids can be fucked up too? You know?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, this is true? Can I start with this before
we get into Bayview. For some reason, it bothers me
that Brady is so upset with Marlena for not telling
him about Rachel.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
A lot of people.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
I've been looking around and people will have like and
he said, pretty even split.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Maybe maybe I should put it like this, he has
a right to be upset, but I think the way
he's so upset at her bothers me like, you you
are Rachel's father and you should know. But I feel
like when it comes to Marlena, have a little bit

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more compassion and understanding and hear her out as to
why she decided to keep this from you, because really EJ.
Kristen and her decided to keep it, you know, just
among them. And I don't know if I don't know,

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if Brady, I don't know. I'm torn myself because I
on one hand, I'm like, he's the father too, so
he should have been privy. But maybe it was one
of those things where it's like the less he knows,
the better because if anything happens, then at least he's
But also, actually I take that back. I'm glad they

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didn't tell Brady because Brady found out and he could
not keep his mouth shut about it. He went to Bell,
he went to he went to Sarah. He was he
was just telling everything. He was telling everybody. It's like,
you can that's why non' you know what. I take
that back. They made a great decision not to tell Brady,
but he shouldn't have been as mad with Marlena.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
She was right in front of him. That's I think
that's I think that's to that point specifically. I think
it's just because she was right there in front of him.
Christ is not wordy to be found. I'm sure there
is plenty of blame to grow around, as you said,
because you know, it was not one person who made
this decision. They all the three of them made that
decision together to keep the truth hidden. I think it.

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I think we're just seeing one part of Brady's anger.
I'm sure the type will come, We'll see other confrontations.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I was okay with it because I I think and
also I think sort of Marlena sort of encapsulated it,
which is an interesting way to look at it, when
she said to him, Oh, I didn't tell you. I
didn't want to burden you with like the truth of it,
and I could keep an eye on it and keep
things under control. And then it was and then and
then she's sitting in the hospital bed where she couldn't

(15:20):
keep things under control. So I was like, oh, like,
that was kind of silly of you in the first
place to think that you were going to manage this
little girl who only. I mean, we've said this since
the beginning. It's kind of never really made any sense
to not include him. The idea was that she was
gonna she didn't want, you know, Rachel to have like

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some sort of you know, she didn't want her to
inorate mentally or yeah, have a mental trauma or whatever.
And it was like she but she there was like
Marlena is now the security guard for Rachel in her
well being, Like that's something you need everyone to in
the family. Like maybe don't need that secret to come out,
but at least you need Brady to know that. You

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need everyone to sort of watch her and to make
sure she's doing the right thing. And clearly she wasn't.
And again, Marlena can't be there one. She has her
own health issues now, she's still dealing with the grief
of John. Like I think it was also naive of
Marlena to think that I'm gonna like control the situation.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
I was fine with Brady, I being mad at thought
he was respectful about it. I thought like, like he
didn't curse her out, he didn't like scream it.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know, I was reading comments online before I watched
the episodes, and they made it sound like Brady like
tore her a new you tore a new asshole about it.
But yeah, I felt like his his anger is justified
because it's brand new information to him. He feels like
he's betrayed, especially by like Marlena, who he mentioned, like

(16:51):
you know, has been a mother figure to him pretty
much is his whole life.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
About his daughter.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
And then just after learning all this, he now has
the task of dropping his daughter off at a psych
ward and leaving her there screaming and yelling, which was
a you know, those were rough scenes, but so to me,
it makes sense that he's angry. Do I think the
anger is gonna last a long time? No, Eventually Brady

(17:19):
will will realize the justification. And what I appreciate about this,
it's also like, let marlenea not be perfect, like this
shows that she you know, she can make a bad decision.
She can, you know, she doesn't always have to be perfect, because,
like Justin said, she's dealing with her own shit. She
lost the love of her life, she's dealing with a

(17:39):
heard issue that she has been undiagnosed because of raggedy
lab work, you know, and and so yeah, maybe she's
not making the best decisions, but you know what, it's
okay for her to be, you know, imperfect for a minute.
You know, she doesn't always have to be you know,
she doesn't aways have to make the right decision, you know,

(18:01):
so you know, it's something that it'll get over. And
then I saw people taking issue with the fact that
he's now you know, confiding in Maggie and he's going
to move into the mansion, and they took an issue
with that. It's like Maggie has been a big part
of his life too. Maggie's been his sponsor. Meggie's you know, sponsored,
one of the reasons He's probably been able to stay sober,

(18:23):
and of course in this time of stress, he's going
to go to her. That makes complete sense.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
But yeah, I was, I was. I was fine with it.
I was okay with it.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, it was just as much as in the past,
and I acknowledge in the past, whenever Brady has gotten moody,
we're just like, you know, like get over it. In
this case, in this context, I feel like his his
mood is justified.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
No, he was. He was justified, And I don't even
think he took it too far. Because he he laid
it out very plainly. He said, you know, I love you,
I love that I appreciate the mother that you've you've
been to me. I want you to get well, but
I don't want you involved in her care. Everything he
said to me was justified. It was to me it

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was not overly harsh, because there is a reason that
doctors are not supposed to treat family members for this
specific reason, because if things go off the rails, you
don't want to be the one responsible for that. Marilana
is a physician. Let's be real about this. If she

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was a surgeon and something went wrong on her watch. Look,
mistakes happen, things happen that are out of your control.
You can't control as a doctor events of the time.
But the basic point is that you don't want to

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be the one treating your family member if something goes wrong,
and in this case, things went very, very wrong. And
it could be that she made a miscalculation. It could
be that Rachel just needed more care than she could provide.
It could it could be that her lime disease was
affecting her judgment. It could be that her grief was

(20:18):
affecting her judgment. It could be anyone number one think
these things, or maybe she made the right decision and
letting christ And take the fall. But either way, she
is not the one that should have been Rachel's main
treatment planner period.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
But but then who should especially with.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Doctor her actual.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yes, yes, but but the psychiatrist was not working with
the full weight of the information.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
And that.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Is the issue. Is that her the you know, when
the parents try to interfere with that, or the grandparents
trying to the fear with that, And that is the
other thing that's a running theme that's going on right
now is grandparents actively interfering where the parents need all
the information. That's not okay, hm hm m hmm. Yeah.

(21:19):
And again I'm not saying that Marlena is one hundred
percent to blame. We're right there with her making decisisions.
And I'm sure that Brady is gonna give them hell
for it when he runs upon that.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's just that Brady, like of the three of the
three of them, Kristin, e J, and Marlena, he would
feel more betrayed by Marlena by it.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Than like with EJ.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Like he'd be like, oh, well, yeah, EJ's an asshole
of course.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Kristen Kristen leies her ass off on a.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Daily basis, so no surprise there. But with Marlena, I
think it just it stings more than it would with
than it does with those two mm, which is eating
his behavior. M Well, everyone in the chat rooms talking
about why doesn't Brady go get a place by himself?

(22:07):
Why is he staying with Marlena? Houses are expensive? And
I'm sure houses are expensive even in Salem. Now yeah,
so yeah, I say Brady. I support Brady or anyone
in Salem writing writing, sorry, writing lost my train of thought.

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I don't think we should fault anyone in Salem for
writing the family train for as long as they oh, okay,
having your own mortgage, living in a mansion.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, those are very different things. And let's and let's
be clear, like communal living traditionally has worked for centuries
with families, it's not that big of a deal as
long as the lines are clearly drawn.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
On how grown you play.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
That's the thing is that the lines need to be
clearly drop I parent you grandparents, That's.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
That's And I think with mag I think Maggie is
wise enough to do I don't think she she would
try to pull, like the ship that Jennifer's trying to pull.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
But I guess we wouldn't think that about Jennifer. And
here we are, so.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
That mansion bitter be huge because some people are some
people are trying to be grown. Well, anyhow, let's move
on over to Bayview? Wait do we do we think that?

(23:53):
For some reason? I feel like they checked her into
Bayview very quickly, and I'm like, is that the move?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I know that she shot EJ. And she threw the
pumpkin a cat and she tried to she tried to
uh uh get Sarah with the pistachios, But does that

(24:23):
equate a trip to Bayview? Like right away?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah? Yeah? On three people.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I mean, babe, you should have happened when it was
revealed she shot EJ.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Because it's a pattern of behavior, and the way that
Brady described it is very accurate. It's a matter of
poor impulse control. It's a matter of her adolescent brain
not being fully developed coupled with the poor impulse control,
and that the combination of the two is now manifesting

(24:58):
in violent tendencies. And that's the key point is that
she is now a danger to others, not because she
has necessarily ill intent, because she's not you know, she's
not she's not heartless. She has feelings, she has big emotions,
but she doesn't have the impulse control and the wherewithal

(25:22):
to realize I could actually hurt someone.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
M M. But I think also funny enough, I was
just gonna say, I'm defending Brady in terms of getting
mad at Marlena, but I think there's also a lot
of blame Brady has to take for himself and over
the next you know, during this this sort of situation
where he handwaved a lot of sort of behavior when

(25:50):
it came to Rachel before and I think the goodsensus was, oh,
she's in therapy now, so it's all fine. It's like, no,
she has a pattern of someone just put the stuff
with Chloe then with a uh, then the stuff she's
been trying to pull, influencing Thomas. Now the now three
almost attempted murders on somebody like, yeah, you need to
the child needs to be locked away, she needs hail.

(26:19):
I mean, so she does. Of the two them being
thrown in j jub.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
I mean, you know, yeah, that's not helpful.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, Well, hopefully she she gets help because she was
on the Sammy Brady, Kristen Damara track of things, and
so maybe she gets help.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
But now she's got. Now she's got.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Now she got cuckoo.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, like Rachel being like.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yo, the way I cackled when she was sitting when
when and Sophia was sitting at the edge of the
bed and Tate walked in and she was like.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
There were there were there was. There was that moment,
and then there was the moment where she she walks
in the room all catatonic and then as soon as
she's like, hey, oh god.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Is so there were several moments of the rac Yeah.
This is where I just giggled at it was so great.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
This is where I lose my rational like therapy believing
persona and just go into total fang girl mode because
the combination of these two. I know it's it's so bad,
it's so bad, but there's such talented actresses and there

(27:52):
I know it's gonna be trouble. I know it's not good,
but I'm kind of giddy over this. It's it makes
no sense.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
There was a moment where I was like, oh, so,
now we're gonna teach the how old is Rachel ten. Yeah,
so we're gonna teach the ten year old how to
be conniving and deceitful.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Okay, listen, Rachel's probably more successful than she said, so
maybe Rachel should teach her.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
But the what's that the teacher will become the student.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, exactly, will become the teacher.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
But no, shy though. I love the fact that Sophia
kind of had a point. She was just like, sometimes
you just listen and you can you can get all
the information you need. And I'm like, you know, they
have been coming in just like talking, and I'm sure
she's just in there just in her mind.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Just like m hm mm hmmm mm hmmmmmm hmm.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
But instead she's just.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
He's collecting all the tea.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
But it was that that moment was she was such
a robot. She was just like she was like talking
like this, and then Tate came in and she was
and even when she when she left, she was just.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
H Yeah. It was so weird because I think before
we're just used to seeing her in that catatonic state,
just in bed, but like like it was it was.
It was funny too because Kate that Kate Tate sort
of it was. He kind of went with it, which
was weird because I thought there would be like more
of a I feel like he was like you know,
he it's like you deal with someone who's sleepwalks when

(29:38):
they say like don't don't don't disturb them or don't
wake them. Yeah, she kind of went with it. It
wasn't like Sophia, what the hell are you doing here?
Or you're not talking like you know what I mean?
She was sitting on the bed like what did he
think she was doing? Just staring at Rachel like you
know what I mean, Like that had been like some
sort of interaction between them, but he just kind of
like was like, Okay, I'm just gonna go with this scenario.

(29:59):
Then you just rolled in here and like you know,
cataton in this catatonic state. Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
You can you imagine if someone like like I would
be freaked out, like if she like like if she
had just walked in and sat on like she, I'd be.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Like security, no security.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Like hello, like what hello?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Poor tape.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
They just make him looks just so between that and
then his c minus.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know, it.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Was brought up because he got a ninety eight on
the Oh.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
God, do you know how bad a studio I could
be to get a C minus in film where your
job is to watch movies.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I mean a professor.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
It honestly just feels like t was just not like
he signed up for class, moved into the dorm and
was just like, life is life, I'm busy. Meanwhile, Haulie's
over there like, oh I got an a. I'm like,
all right, And she's been She's been through the most

(31:20):
dramatic thing between going to.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
The like the drugging and the I guess you could
call it a drugging and then being in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
And yeah, and she's still got good grades.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
It got straight as ship.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Right, Yeah, that's crazy. But uh yes.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Knows that Johnny and Channel had the baby.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Mm hmmm, oh boy, I mean this, I know this.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Are we ready for part two of this? This part
of it, the baby still being a factor in this?
Are we that?

Speaker 4 (31:59):
No, if it were here, if it were maybe any
other person, any other situation. No, But I think I'm
still so on board because the way that Rachel Boyd
is playing it, like where she has just gone. Now

(32:22):
we see she's just gone completely off the rails because
nobody was listening to her nobody was taking her feelings
into consideration, and finally she just snapped. And I think
from that point on, everybody just kind of expected her to,

(32:44):
like heal or whatever. And I I equate this. I
thought that the conversation that two weeks ago happened between
Gabby and ari really put a really good context on
all of this on Joe, just how scary it is
to give birth when you're that age, and to feel

(33:07):
desperate and alone and make horrible decisions. And I mean,
it was only by the sheer force of will that
Gabby didn't that Gabby and Ariana's life didn't turn completely
upside down because of Nick. It was I mean, let's
be clear, the U and that was that was one

(33:29):
of the summers that I was really That was the
time I was really watching when it was Will and
Sonny and e J and Sammy and Kate and they
were all like, we're gonna get this guy. We're gonna
we're gonna make sure that he doesn't have any influence
over that baby. And the combination of all those people
fighting for Ariana before she was even born made the
difference come over to this situation all these years later,

(33:55):
and there was so much infighting in and around the baby,
but there was no one actually fighting for the baby
necessarily and for Sophia. And I think that that when
you look at that side by side, I think you
can really tell why Sophia has just.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
She snapped, Yeah, I'm not so enthused about the baby
stuff coming around that part of it. If so, I
just I'm I'm just like, just make her a villain now,
do you know what I mean? Like lean into it,
make her the next Sammy, and I just want to
see her either cause terror or do you know what

(34:36):
I mean? I feel like I thought originally when they
when she had her break, which she did confirm was true,
that part of it was true, the original part, it
seemed like she's gotten over it or come out of it,
and that's what she's sort of pretending to still be
in it. But I thought they were gonna do like
a reset on the character. It was like, you know,

(34:57):
put her in there, let her go through her issues,
get counseled, and sort of come back as kind of
herself but better baby. But now I'm just like, let
her be a villain then, Like that to me is
more interesting. Then I don't want to I'm not interested
in rehashing like the baby trauma yet again, like just
let her be a villain.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
But as far as villain origin stories go, I'm okay
with this one.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, yeah, just let her be, let her cause terror
with everyone then if that's the case, and.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, to me, it's it's valid. You know what's more
valid than you know this, I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Hmmm. I don't know. I just I honestly feel like
the baby doesn't really it doesn't fit with Johnny and Shadel.
Maybe it's just me, but.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Totally in a disagreement with your.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
It just feels it just feels weird to like one
day like hoping for a kid, and then the next
day you have them and then it's like he's fussy
and I'm like, he ain't been with you but for
two weeks, like you know what I mean. Like, and
there's been like no prep either to like them being parents.

(36:24):
So it's like it's like we wanted them to be parents,
but I feel like the way that it went about,
I don't know, Like honestly, I would have preferred this.
I would have preferred for Leo and Hobby to have
kept baby Tea because we were so used to them

(36:48):
and seeing them love on that baby, and how it
brought them closer together, and how it just fits so easily.
I would have rather they had did that and did
something else for Chanelle and Johnny, because it just it
the transfer of baby Tea over to them just doesn't

(37:09):
it's it doesn't feel organic. It doesn't feel like we're like,
oh my gosh, they're so cute. It's I really feel
like it's like y'alling ready for no baby, like y'alling,
got y'alling, got y'all house together.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
It just it it became like a.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Like some for some reason, it just became like a
I want to I'm trying to use a word other
than prize because someone in the chapter music word like
it became like a prize, like like a like especially
for Chanel, like this particular baby just became like a
goal for whatever reason. And yeah, kind of those those

(37:51):
scenes that we had, those in those weeks leading up
to them being awarded custody, where she was just like
so like distraught over the possibility of not getting custody,
and it was like why did this baby, you know
what I mean? So, yeah, yeah, it doesn't really seem organic.
It seemed rushed.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just it's just saying what I've said already.
It just didn't feel didn't fit. No, and it didn't
feel like we rooted for them either, you know what
I mean, Like like when it happened, it was just
kind of like, well, why can't Hobby and Leo just
adopt the baby? Like they have a better connection with

(38:36):
the baby than anyone else would. And it's like it's
also like, did y'all not want to adopt the baby?

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Like was was that they didn't think that they would
have a chance because they weren't married, their relationship was
kind of new.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
And and and they were scay.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I don't think that was I.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Don't think that would have Yeah, I don't think that
would have had a play with the social worker, But
with Amy Choy it probably would have and she would
have contested. Yeah, I don't think that would have mattered
to the social worker as much as it would have
mattered to Amy.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
But and you know what if if if at that point,
they if that they had tried to fight for him
anyway and Amy Choy didn't fight, like I would have
been a little myth that they like if they had
written it talking about something that didn't even happen, but whatever.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, Like if Leo.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
And Hobby had decided to try to adopt it, Amy
Choyd didn't have a problem with it, that would have
been like a huge character misstep because like it would
have made sense that Amy Choy like if they had,
if they had she had come in and just.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Been like, oh, yeah, I support that. I would have
been like, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
But regardless, Yeah, the baby should have stayed with Leo
and Hobby. They could have happened somewhere, And I guess
it still could. Like things can happen. They're getting married.
They're getting married now number one and number two. If
you know, I don't know, it can still happen.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I guess sure. Actually don't mind. Actually, like with Johnny Chanell,
I think they're giving I think I do agree with you.
I think the storyline of them getting the baby was
very clunky. I think they had a lot to do
with the unevenness of it. I think it favored heavily
on Sophia and what she was going through. Then we
had the side stuff with Tate when the mom stuff,

(40:30):
and I felt like they probably didn't give Johnny and
Chanelle the proper amount of time that they should have
devoted to their perspective of it. I think they probably
relied on the fact that we saw Johnny and Chanelle
go through We knew how much they want to have
a baby from a previous storyline, and we knew that
they had had held issues regarding that from a previous

(40:53):
story line. So I felt like they just let that
stuff like carry over. But I do agree it was
a bit clunky, but I still I still put them
at number one over I like Hovey and Leo. I
wouldn't have minded them having the baby. I just think
in terms of like a solid in terms, I think
Chanel and Johnny have a better relationship than Hovey and
Leo do, and I think that when you start peeling

(41:16):
the layers, I think I don't know if Polagy and
Leo are also are also great. I think they have
a lot of issues that come and go regarding their relationship,
and I think we're going to see more of that
as as this this engagement continues.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Yeah, they I mean they might. I think that they
have their issues, but I disagree that Johnny and Chanel
are the necessarily the most stable couple because just because
they yeah, well just because they weathered the storms doesn't
necessarily mean that they're gonna weather all the storms.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I think that's that way. I think that's what it is.
They don't feel settled because they just okay, they got
through not getting Wait no that was before. Well we'll
just start here. They just finished Johnny being on trial
for murder, then all of a sudden, him becoming a professor,

(42:21):
then moving into a new place, her trying to keep
sweet sweet bits afloat. Also, you know, the whole thing
with his jealousy with like her and Alex and the
blue Bunny incident. Like, I feel like they've been through
a lot to where I feel like they haven't been

(42:44):
a stable couple long enough to then introduce a baby,
whereas Jave and Leo, even though it's still new their
progression as a couple, it was almost natural for them
to at least foster the baby. But then it allowed
us to be like, I actually like this because this

(43:06):
is bringing out the softer side of Leo. But but
he's still Leo. They both have stable jobs, they like,
you know, there's all this stability in there, seemingly more
fresh relationship than in Johnny and Chanelle, and they had
a full family support with with Ari and Gabby and

(43:31):
Raith like it was, it seemed like such a more
natural fit then to say, Okay, now we're gonna give
it to Johnny and Chanell, where uh, there's all this
friction intermoil where Sofia doesn't even want the baby to
be with them. We had all the issues with Amy Choy,
Johnny doesn't want ej anywhere near the baby. It's like

(43:55):
it's it's messy over there, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
What it is. I feel like I feel like at
this past year, as Leo and Hovey were getting settled
in as a couple and getting settled in like being
basically the primary caregivers to little Tea, I feel like

(44:18):
they were also settled in themselves, you know what I mean.
Like Leo has been in therapy for years where he's
really done the work to fix what he thinks was
broken in himself, to fix his issues. He has made
amends where he could, He has really been honest about

(44:41):
his shortcomings and really and this finally has like a
stable job where he feels like he contributes. And Hovey
went through all this turmoil that we didn't even know about,
you know, before we met him, But it seemed like
he had already kind of work through that a little bit,
and his final step was to share his trauma with

(45:04):
Leo and have that support system in his relationship and
then have that encouragement to finally go back and pursue
the career that he wanted, you know what I mean.
So it feels like not only were they settled as
a couple where they I felt like this past year
the two of them just individually really settled into themselves.
And I don't necessarily see that, particularly with Johnny, where

(45:29):
he's right now pushing the demeraside of him away and
thinking like if he ignores it, it'll go away, and
Chanelle's kind of encouraging that, like if we ignore EJ,
he'll go away kind of a thing. And that's not
how that works.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
No at all. Mm hmmm, no, no, no, no, I
don't know. It's a mess to me. And so it's
just it's I don't know, it's weird, it doesn't feel right,
but I'm happy for them. Mhm. Bless their hearts. But

(46:09):
it looks like everyone is on board with making sure
that Rachel is like protected and taking care of and
you know it's more so her going getting through this
through the mental state of things. Poor child was dumped
into a drama basket literally, So yeah, kudos to them

(46:38):
protecting Rachel. But Sophia is gonna get over here. They're
gonna be plotted.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
You know who else needs to come into the mix.
Nurse Whitley there and who Connie?

Speaker 4 (47:00):
That's right?

Speaker 1 (47:02):
You know what that could have been a beyond Salem, Chad, I.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Think we're talking about that.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, just all the stunts and shows in in Bayview.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I don't know, maybe if they're all still their next Halloween,
oh right.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
That could be all right. Well, I think we have
traveled down crazy train enough, right, and now let's tip
on over to Chad Enters the crypt. Okay, on a
scale of one to ten, how vested are we in

(47:39):
this story? Because honestly, I'm at I'm getting to a ten.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeahs yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Yes, I'm very I am because I feel like there's
just so many questions, Like there's the questions that the
people in the crypt are asking being who's doing this
to us? But I think that there's so many other
questions that are gonna come out of this that just

(48:10):
have that have yet to explode, and I'm really really excited.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Well it's the right now we're all just at a
why and I feel like, I don't know if you
guys feel like this. I feel I feel like whoever's
in the two and the Demyrors being kidnapped is connected.
Maybe No, I take that back, because at the end

(48:37):
of Friday it messed me up because Okay, so I think,
what about.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
The end of Friday mester up Tony? Yeah, what do
you mean?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
So I was starting to think EJ had something to
do with this because he was so he was so
kind of like, oh, Tony's missing, you know, Christen's out
of jail, Like he was very oh, Chad hasn't been
entering his phone, but he wouldn't do that. And I'm like,
you just seem like you're playing along. And it wasn't

(49:07):
until Kat dropped the stuff in his drink and he
passed out. I was like, now, Cat, are you drugging
all these folks and putting them like, what are you doing? Ma'am?

Speaker 4 (49:19):
It's what you think it's Cat?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Well, I don't know because that that that's just how
I ended, why why is she drugging? Why is she drugging?

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I think she's trying to I don't know what what
exactly she's trying to do, other than maybe eliminate EJ
as a potential suspect.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I think she's trying to do and she needs him
knocked out for a little while. Yeah, exactly, she's just
trying to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Oh she's trying to walk around the house.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, into his phone or get into his devices or something,
and yeah, she just needed him subdued. I don't think
she's kidnapping him, and I don't think she's the one
kidnapping the other demeras. I think another Demera is kidnapping
these demeras. But I don't know what demera.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
There's a lot of suspects, a lot.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Of I'm actually starting to think it's EJ.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I did it before. I a funny way into way
the opposite way you, Tony. I thought he's way too
nonchalant about this, and then this week the stuff with
Chad and the way he went about the core proceeding,
I was like, he's acting really weird about his brother,
who he has this great relationship with, being kidnapped I
think it's one thing to think Kristen escaped. It's one

(50:36):
thing to be like Tony's missing, and yeah he has
a good relationship with Tony, but for Chad to be missing,
he's acting a little weird for me. And then the
the way he acted in court with oh, he's not here,
I tried to reach him. Can we do a continuance.
It's like you knew all that information before you even
got to the court. Why why, why would why did
you go through the like the act of its wheels

(51:00):
got turning. I actually do think it's EJ now, but
I think he's doing it in his way. He's doing
it to keep the other Demeras occupied, in a way
so that he can usher in whatever, usher in whatever
he's doing with the person in the two. That's what
I'm thinking, because whoever's kidnapping them is doing it. It's

(51:22):
not there to hurt them. They're giving them food, they're
giving them shelter, They're putting them all together in the
same place so they can keep each other company. So
it's giving me a Lucas kidnaped Sandy vibe. Do you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Well, yeah, I agree, it's a demera can we all
agree to a Demara Yeah, yes, yes, okay, we can
all agree it's a Demera kidnapping these other demeras and
putting them in the Crypt. We don't know for what reason.
We don't know for how long, we don't know if
there is an endgame. I actually think that it's their

(52:00):
two separate incidents. Okay, I actually think that what's going
on with EJ and whoever is in the tube has
absolutely nothing to do with what's going on with the Crypt,
but they're going to coincide at some point, which is
why I'm kind of now on the edge of my

(52:21):
seat in terms of not only who is going to
find them, when they're going to be found, but also
what secrets are going to be unearthed when they all
finally come out of there.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Hmhm.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
It's interesting though, It's it's one of the story lines
where I'm very vested, and I just like the fact that, one,
one by one, they've been because at first it was
just kind of like, Okay, that's weird and that, and
at first the Kristen breaking out of jail and Tony
being lost, no one connected those dots until they showed
up together and it was like, wait, hold up, what

(53:07):
is happening? And now Chad is with them, and now
it's like, well, who next? Yeah, I mean we kind
of know if you watch the super tease.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
But yeah, on Friday's episode, well yeah, there was the
moment when Gaby and she was she was like, whenever
THEO comes back, and I was like, he ain't coming back.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Oh my gosh, that's what I thought.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I was like, Oh, that means he ain't coming back.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Okay, I was like, oh boy, but it's it's it's
it's very interesting. It's also interesting how they're kind of
catching each other up in the process. Chad and not Chad. Yeah,
Chad and Kristin and Tony, and I felt, oh my god,
I felt so bad that Chad was missing the court thing.

(53:56):
Although I don't like how they have Tomas so mad
at him, Yeah, it'd but I love I love the
fact that Charlotte is speaking of im. Is my daddy?

Speaker 4 (54:14):
You tell him, Charlotte, you tell him.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Charlotte's like, and this gave me my goddamn daddy. How
did Charlotte become the only, the only reasonable person in
the house.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I was I didn't get it by a car I
didn't try to Pumpkin, Somebody give my dad back.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
I guess I'm glad for the continuance. You know, Tony
and Kristen are right that, you know, Chad being missing
is gonna is gonna it's gonna ramp up this investigation.
Suddenly people are gonna put two and two together and
realize that it's not a coincidence that three DeMar siblings

(54:54):
are missing. So it's gonna it's gonna start ramping up
pretty fast. Which is good. It's just good and even
might even might even be good for Chad, you know,
because he didn't have to face Jennifer at that point,
because I.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Although it could have hurt them, which is another I know.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
I I hope it doesn't. I hope that I hope
Chad comes out of the crypt swing. Let's say that
I hope he comes out swinging at whoever put him there,
at at the Hortons, even at little Thomas, who's acting
like a brat. I am kind of beside myself with

(55:43):
Jennifer at this point.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
She really she went to another like she went to
another level this week. First of all, with Kat being
like his feelings for you weren't real I was like, Okay,
you're being a thunder whatever to this woman.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I cat already.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
You don't need to go now, you just need to
needed to go to that level just to be petty,
like get the fuck out of here, like way.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
It's like, it's like, Jennifer, I am so sorry girl.
Kat is not affecting y'all's life that much anymore. Like again,
it was a very messed up situation, but y'all have
been in more messed up situations. So let's have just

(56:32):
a little bit more compassionate understanding. You don't have to
ever deal with her, you don't. You don't you don't
have to do anything with her, You don't have to
interact with her. In fact, you live in Boston, So
why so, why why do you care so much about
what's going on?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Here's here's the truth, and here's what here's here's the
truth of it, and this is this is what I
landed on this week that I finally realized why she's
acting the way that she is, and I want her
to say it out loud, because when she told Jack
that they had to get Thomas and Charlotte away from
the Demas, that was when I was like, she's still

(57:18):
I want her to say it. I want her to
say that she blames Chad for Abigail's death, because for me,
that's what this all comes back to. I don't think
that is I think Kat is a conduit for her anger,
but I don't think that's the source of it. I
think she blames Chad for Abigail's death because how could

(57:41):
she go so fast to get wanting custody of those
kids if it wasn't like some deeply rooted, buried hatred
that she wasn't willing to let herself say out loud.
I want her to say it.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
That would be an interesting way to try. I don't
know if we've ever got any evidence that that was
the case, but it would be interesting if I think,
I think that something you know, that's really holding on to.
But it's weird because she up until this point, she's
had a very great relationship with Chad.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
So yes, and that's the point why, because why how
could it turn so bad so fast? That's that's my
point of it is is like, you did have a
great relationship with Chad. How did we get here?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
How did this sound was suppress?

Speaker 6 (58:35):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (58:36):
I think so? I think so I think she was
so traumatized, but rightfully so, by her daughter's murder. Don't
get me wrong, she was traumatized. She you know, she
you know, she lost her sobriety for a littlement. She
was going through a lot when Abigail died. She couldn't
handle it. I think that finally she's getting to a

(58:57):
place of like, and it's still in her grief process
where her anger is not just towards the man who
murdered her daughter, not just towards the woman who impersonated
her daughter, but towards the man that maybe she thinks
should have protected her daughter. I really think that's it.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Mm hm.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
At least to me, that would that would make that
would at least it would at least justify how quickly
she went to it. Not that I think that she's right,
but in my mind, it would justify just how quickly
we got here. Now that being said, she's doesn't change

(59:41):
my opinion of her at this point. And I was yeah,
and I was so, And now my anger is almost
equal to to towards Jack, so much so that a word.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Jack's just been a little whipped husband. Yeah yeah, no, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
I mean a word popped into my head. That is
just so unlike me, Like I would never like, like,
this is not a word I would ever say out
loud because it goes against my moral No, no, I can't. No,
it's like it's not no, yeah, you can guess, you
can guess what it is. It goes It goes so

(01:00:24):
against my moral compass to ever say. But yeah, that
I popped into my mind. I was like Jack you
oh yeah. Mostly because he was like talking about both
sides of his mouth towards Thomas. The way that he
was talking out of both sides his mouth towards Thomas
really pissed me off. Your dad cares about you. Oh

(01:00:45):
but we care about you too. Oh but it's okay
to feel your feelings. Oh but your dad's not really
being responsible right now. You're talking out of both sides
of your mouth. Of course, this kid's confused.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
There's two sides of.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
A left side and the right side.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
That's it. There, it is. I don't know, It's just
I'm with Charlotte. I want my daddy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
There was there was talk in the chat room that
that Kate's the one kidnapping all the Demiras. As much
as I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Would love Kate back in like I know, like it
just doesn't it doesn't track right now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Unfortunately, Kate taking advantage of Demera's misfortune. I'm all for.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Mm hmm, would she did you know? We'll get to
it when she had to talk with Maggie like.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, yeah. So it's like and
you see what I mean about how like that's that
I think is why we're all so excited about where
the storyline is going, because right now it's very demerocentric,
but in so many ways when when we talk about
other storylines coming down the pike, it's it's gonna be

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one of those storylines that kind of creeps out into
other characters and how it affects the businesses, how it
affects other relationships. Like we're right in the precipice of this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yeah, I don't know where this storyline is going. If
this is like a quick, little small storyline, or if
this is going to be something bigger into the new year.
I don't know. I feel like at some point Chad's
going to get out of it, out of the crypt
of course, and then like, I mean, are we really
are we really thinking Thomas and Charlotte are moving to Boston,
Like like, I don't know, I don't see this. I

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just don't know what we're doing here. It seems very
abrupt and very rushed, and it seems a little implausible
for the Jennifer that we know. I would rather it
be what you're saying, Erosilly. And then it's revealed she's
had this issue with Chad all longer. She had these
feelings and it was suppressed them or whatever. But it's
it's a very confusing storyline for us to see Jennifer

(01:03:11):
this way. Even though it's interesting, it's it's very confusing.
And who says it's interesting difficult?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Who said it was interesting? Oh, we don't like it
the that she's trying to take away Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I'm saying the storyline of watching it, I don't know.
I never thought I see Jennifer fighting for custody with
Chad this year. I didn't think that was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I mean, it definitely wasn't on the Bengo card, nor
where the demror is getting kidnapped. But here we are.
I don't, I don't, I don't like it. I look
at her every time she she talks about the kids
and and and I'm just like ma'am, you're doing too much.
You're doing too much. This man has has already lost

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his wife and has been keeping it together since his
wife passed and has been a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Support system for the rest of your family for like
multiple years since yes, wife lost, his wife moved in
and like was Julie's support system.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Yes, during the like all the while being a great father.
You didn't say nothing when he was dating Stephanie, when
we were like it still feels a little too soon
for Stephanie and Chad to happen. You didn't say nothing.
Now you have this issue, which again we understand how

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hurtful it is to have someone impersonate your deceased daughter.
At the same time, you know why she did it.
There was no ill intent. It wasn't as as malicious
as it could have been, because they could have done
it to where she read about Abigail, saw that she

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had some money and was like, boom, I'm about to
get into it. No, she was trying to save her family.
So how you mad that he forgave her, still saw
the good in her, And now you're just like, oh,
those kids aren't in a good environment. Well, they've been
in a good environment since they were born. Now all

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of a sudden, you want girl, if you don't go
to Boston and live your life. M and let the
and and lead him turn alone.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Especially Charlie. She ain't finna have it. She want her daddy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
I will follow up with Elizabeth's mama and our chat
who said that Jennifer needs a fall from Grace. I
will follow that up with where's that balcony that princess Junior?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
That's just what I thought about when she pushed her
off the balcony. I was like, yeah, she used to
get shoved off that balcony again.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Is that balcony somewhere close by?

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
It's in Sale?

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
It was in Sale, it was in the square the
second Yeah, you had to presumably walk upstairs or take
an elevator some ship to get up there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
But yeah, it was oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
All right, Well can we leave the crypt now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Sure, lovely, Let's head over to the Times Square where
we have Leo's engaged to Hobby.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Yay, the outfits will be fabulous, yes, m hm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
I hope they don't do like I don't know. I
hope they don't go over the top with it. I
hope they go I know, but it is leo gay wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
Not all gay weddings need to be freaking spectacle. They
did that already with him once when he married, when
he married Sonny Freddy, I was gonna say Freddy, but
Sonny when they had their wedding and he came with
like the flashy sue and the giant country star hair,
country music star hair.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Like this time, just like and let that be. Like
everyone's like, oh, what's Leo gonna wear? Oh what's Leo
gonna wear?

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Maybe he just comes in and something you know, stylish
but classy and like subdued.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
I think that that's Hobby's job. Hovey will wear something
classy and subdued, and Leo will wear whatever fabulous think
he's going to wear. The best weddings are the weddings
where the couple are just the couples are just purely themselves.
Let them be a mixture of you know, melding together

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the best of themselves, and look, if nothing else, Leo
always entertains. And like the last wedding didn't go off
without a hitch, and I was thoroughly entertained. Nobody ended
up getting married and I was thoroughly entertained.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I feel like though they kind of set it up
for something's gonna happen, because he was like, let's there's
the rush of getting married. Let's get married on December
thirty first, and it's like and he mentioned something about
like you know how things happen at a wedding, and
I'm like, what's gonna happen at yours?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Or things like things happened on New Year's Eve?

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Yes, people come back, Like it's like there was a
time where it was like someone came someone came back
from the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Dead every New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Gwen seemed to not be happy about it, and now
she knows when the wedding is taking place, so she
had she had those those the wheels started turning for her.
Oh I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
I could not stop laughing, Like this is the magic
of Emily O'Brien, that she took those lines of congratulations
and turned into like the least congratulatory speech I've ever
heard in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
It was so great all the delivery, baby, Oh my god,
that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Maybe Ai who now has an issue with Lee with Leo.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
It feels like from with Gwynn, it puts a a
wrench in her plan whatever, whatever her plan is. It
was just kind of like, oh, I wasn't expecting that,
you know, you know so.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Mmmm mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Mmmm. But I love that, you know, people are on board.
He went to Marlena and brought Okay, I don't know
if anyone else noticed this, but it kind of bugged
me a little bit. We could clearly see that Leo
brought her drag coloring books, but then it was just

(01:10:12):
never mentioned, Like I was hoping for a line of like,
oh my gosh, how did you find coloring books of
the cast of RuPaul's Drag Race or a coloring book
for drags? Hm? I feel like a queen something like.

(01:10:32):
She just kept holding it up and I was like,
he only.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
He only mentioned having a binge watch of drag Race
when they when she gets out. That was the only
And honestly, I wasn't paying enough attention to see that
it was drag Race coloring books.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
You didn't You didn't notice that big queen on the
back of it, and paint I did? I did. I
was like, kudos, mama, mhm.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Maybe they were afraid, Maybe they were afraid World of
Wonder would come after them for a royalty.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Well, at this point they should be happy to get
mentioned elsewhere. Maybe people will actually tune in. I mean
they are, but.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
After last after last season, even I'm on the fence
about last drag Race season, I stopped watching, like we
were all at Revolver a few nights to watch after
like the last night, I stopped watching until the finale
and I fast forwarded the finale until they crowned the Queen.
And that was what I watched the last season's drag

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Race because I was so disinterested.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
So, well, that's a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
That this is not called dis drag race.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Sorry, this is this Yeah anyway, so yeah, yeah, what
else is there?

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
A doesn't make him for It was like that seemed
out of left field.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
It seems a.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Little odd because they've been like Gabby was the one
that had a problem with Leo.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yeah, I had Ari never at least not that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
I remember, ever had an issue a big issue with
Leo being in the picture. Now suddenly they're engaged and
it's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Now I was like, Oh, he's gonna be there all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
It seems like they it's like they they had a
story arc for Ari when she came, and now that
that's ending, it's like, oh, yeah, remember she she should
hate Leo, So now we're gonna like retroactively ever hate him,
which makes not no real sense because if.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
She because if she knows now, if she knew now
what what he did to Soney and Will, then she
knew back then too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yeah, she's always done.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah, so like why it wasn't in an issue before now,
Like it's a little disjointed, So it's a little it's
it must be them forcing it to serve another purpose
that we have yet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yeah. Yeah, and also weird because we just had that
scene what was it during John's passing where sort of
Will and Leo kind of made up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Yeah, it was like, okay, if Will can bury the
hatch exactly with him, then you can too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
I'm hoping that this is just like a short lived
thing that that they only brought it up just to
address it right before Leo and Hobby get married, where
maybe Leo kind of senses some tension from Ari and
approaches her and you know, they have they have they
hash it out a little bit in a way that

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in the ways that he's done with her parents with
Chad and you know, because I think he I think
he has made amends with everyone. But because Ari was
so young when all this happened, that maybe it kind
of didn't It didn't register to actually apologize to her.
So I'm hoping that that's where this is going.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Yeah, well, congratulations to Leo and Hobby. Yay. Can't wait
for the wedding.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
The last thing, the last thing about Ari is that
Kate welched on her internship offer, which was months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
So yeah, she's like, why don't you be an Internet
de beara.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
And I know I was like, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
Yeah, but it's nice to see Ari getting scenes with
her great grandparents stop and remember yeah yeah, but kind
of pulling her out. Those are her great grandparents, Lucas.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
And Sandy are her grandparents?

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Yes, yeah, because yeah, because Sammy was super young, Will
was also young, and it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Those babies having babies. Well, speaking of babies, we've gave
birth to our top storylines and now we're gonna move
on to our tidbits. You know, our tidbits are just
little bits of storyline that happened throughout the week that
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There we go. All right, let's get into some tidbits,
shall we. Thanksgiving drive by. Oh, we are so thankful.
We are thankful, thankful, thank and full. Poor Xander had
that moment of everybody was walking lived with somebody and
he didn't have anybody too, And I wanted to be like,

(01:17:16):
I'm available.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
I'll kiss you over here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Mm hmmm. That's one of those moments you want to
be like, h Xander.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
What I like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I've always been a big Xandergue fan, so I like them.
It seems like they're they may possibly be revisiting this again.
Xander and Gwen can what's this match each other's freak?

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
Yeah, like they just they they know each other, they
accept each other, and it wouldn't be a situation where like,
if they're together and one of them pull some ship,
the other one's going to hold it against them like
some other one someone else did.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
It's kind of like and Nicole.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Nicole do a point that went's a ship though when
EJ messed with the kid, But you know, still and
up until that point, EJ and Nicole did kind of
respect each other for who they were, and.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
As long as you're honest with each other. That's the
key is that they don't They don't judge each other
as long as they're honest with each other.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Yeah, m hmm. Yeah, so here's to a friendship.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
At least.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
We'll see if it develops anything more. But yeah, they
established a friendship. We're back to being friends.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Chat chat room is not about Glen Xander.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Really not when and Xander and what?

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
You want another retread of the sea something a little
different for now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
I know Gwenn and Xander aren't necessarily new, but he
and Emily have chemistry character wise, they match each other. Yeah,
I feel like they could, you know, they could be
a good couple.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Yeah. Look, look, this iteration of Sarah is not it
for Xander right now. So let's let's just see where
this goes people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Yeah, all right, Holly, Maggie and Sarah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
It's just like a cute catch up. I feel like
the Curiocis.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Generations of Curiocus ladies is y Wait is Holly Kuriakis.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
None of whom are actual Kariocuses.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Wait No, because Holly, Holly's a Jones.

Speaker 6 (01:19:58):
Jonas well she was married, Like yeah, I mean, I
mean that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
I mean Maggie was a curiocus by marriage.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
So yeah, mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
It was a cute.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
I like their their little interactions, like when they're three,
the three of them are together. It's nice when you
see a family or like at least a nice mixed
a generation of women.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
I like that they do have Maggie clocking, especially with Sarah. Yeah,
clock clocking when you know you're like, oh, you're not
telling me the whole truth.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
You're not telling me the whole thing here. Yeah, when
she when.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
She was like not telling her about the kids, Rachel.
One thing I want to mention, we we didn't talk
about when Holly. We're talking about Holly now, But Holly
was upset that she wasn't hearing back from Tate yea,
because Tate was, you know, dealing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
With the family ship.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
And I was actually like part of me was like
it's okay, girl, like yeah, but the other part of
me was like, okay, say what well, okay, but I
have been in that situation where yeah, but she didn't
she didn't have insight to what was going on, so

(01:21:18):
she could only think that Okay, he's not texting me back,
he must be mad at me for something.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
That was the only context she had. But also I
think this is like the immaturity of both of them.
For one, when you're not a maturity, it's it's being
a human being.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Like you're in a serious relationship with someone, you're used
to a certain level of communication. Suddenly that communication drops
for absolutely in your mind, no reason. Yeah, of course
she's gonna go to you know, oh my gosh, maybe
he's mad at me. Maybe, But when you're but my,
that what I'm trying to say. When you're in a

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relationship with somebody, there is a level of responsibility to
communicate what's going on and not just ghost the other
person regardless, Like it's so easy to take two seconds
and write a simple text if someone's repeatedly texting you
and just being like, hey sorry, going through something.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
I agree with you, that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Alone can just ease any kind of problem.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
No, I agree with you, Michael. But I think that
also lends itself to Justin's point as to their immaturity,
where well, it lends something it's immaturity, But also Holly's
a maturity that she immediately jumped to, I'm the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
I'm I'm saying it's not immaturity because I was in
that situation like in my thirties, and yeah, it's not immaturity.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
It's just being a human being.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Yeah. But it's like, but there's there's a difference between
thinking like there's a problem and then terms of I'm
the problem. You know what I mean, what.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Else would the problem be? If you have no other contact,
if you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
Have no other context, you then your your mind can
go to a million things, from he got in a
car crash to something's going on with the family, Like
it doesn't like I wouldn't necessarily you have to be
in a very to me, that's that's a response I
think to a fairly either a new relationship or a

(01:23:22):
relationship that doesn't necessarily have solid footing. Yeah, where that's
your your immediate response is to, oh my god, did
I do something wrong? In terms instead of saying, maybe
they need space, maybe they're having a bad day. Maybe
you know they're dealing with something something is going on
where they're just like completely checked out. Sometimes it happens.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Eh, I could see Holly's points. Man have taken two seconds, and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Yeah, either way.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
And I've had this, I've had this, I've had this debate,
and I do think Tony, I do think we should
put a poll on this, because I really know because
I've I've had this, I've had I've had this conversation
several times. I've had this conversation with Adell Matthews yesterday,
and I really I am actually very curious to know, guys,
are there is there anybody out there who still ships

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Holly and Tate.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
I just I just accept it. I don't necessarily ship it.
I'm just like, Okay, it's there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
Like, I'm really curious, are there are there? Are there
anybody anybody out of her has any faith in this
relationship at all?

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
So the question is does anyone have faith.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Faith?

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
I just feel like I just feel like we're just
in the We're like they've been like they're together, then
they break up, they're together, they break up, so now
I feel like we're just in this lull of like, Okay,
they're together now and we're just waiting for the next breakup.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Christmas List is becoming increasingly with some people might think
negative but I think liberating mm hmm, because my soap
Christmas list has a lot of people I want to
break up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Yeah, okay, I have officially posted with yes love them,
I am over it, or they should put them with
other people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
All right, let's see what happens. We're also going to
put a poll in here because I know how to Wait,
do I know how to do that? Oh no, that's
over on YouTube. Hold on, let's see what the people's
think in real time.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
All the buttons, all.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
The buttons, all the buttons are for you, and the
buttons are for me. We are buttons. We are buttons.
I'm a button and so are we. So we'll see
what the people say, and it's gonna be a hit. Watch. Okay,

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let's see how do I do this?

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
I do feel like, oh now, see now the ideas
that come out when we're live, I'll write down just
random ideas that we have. And now I'm writing a
random idea of create a song based on audition to

(01:26:52):
day's content.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Okay, here we go, starting a poll. So just put
the poll up on YouTube. Someone was like, I don't
see the poll. It's like, give it a second. Let's
see where we're at. Gez Louise Alwa should say no,
they need to give it up, but can I can

(01:27:19):
I fix that? Nope? Okay, so far eighty eight percent
say no, they need to give it up. So we'll
give it a few minutes. See what happens. All right,
we're done with that. Let's move on to a Paulina Chanel,

(01:27:42):
Johnny and the still some tension.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
We are thankful we did the recap. Abe was lying
his ass off to everybody, who wait what because he
pulled that I'm so proud of your son, and then
Paulino was like, I'm so proud of you a for
changing your mind, and He's like, yeah, sure, that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Mm hmmm. And part of me was just nice to
see him see them have the Carver Thanksgiving. I feel
like they've they've have maybe seen much of it lately,
but before they very much had a lot of featuring
them getting together, whether it's anniversaries or Juneteenth or things

(01:28:37):
like that. So it was just I think, just nice
to see them have a scene with just them and
then sort of Johnny and his you know, appreciation for
being part of the family, and then the you know,
no reasons in the potato salad, which I cracked up
a little bit on. I thought that was cute.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Yeah, raisins don't belong in anything, FYI except bread.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Raisin bread is good? Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Sendnamon raisin bread? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Yeah, oh that's so good. That's it though, with some
bacon and eggs. Yum.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
That's it though.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Yeah, just to let you all know, nine percent of
the people loved Taitt and Holly. Ninety one percent said
they need to give it up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Well, maybe in ten months we can get a storyline shift.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Maybe let's see what the people on here are saying.
Twenty love them, forty four percent say I'm over it,
and thirty four percent say they should put them with
other people. That's what's happening right now. Oh and then
as I was checking that, Dan Furricle popped up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Oh what's he saying?

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (01:29:53):
Dan?

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Nothing? Oh did you see that at the Dan fear.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Te Matthew could please screenshot Michael Maddison's reaction to that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Before.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
I don't know why it shocked me so much all
of a sudden, I was just like, Pace, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Not a pre album, not a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
My motive out, Where's jin did did Jen say anything
about it?

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
She passed out on that wall behind her.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
She had a already give her a minute to come
to she couldn't write.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
All right, let's move on to uh, business, internships and grades.
We already kind of talked about it about this, Uh.
The only thing that we didn't talk about was Kate
and Maggie's conversation And Okay, whose side are you on
when it comes to Titan? Are you on Maggie's side

(01:31:02):
with how she wants to handle it? Or are you
on Kate's side with how she wants to handle it?
Let's put a poll up.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Yeah, Kate, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Your Kate.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
What was I gonna say?

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
I think this is a situation that needs a little
bit of ruthlessness like it it and I just don't
think Maggie has it. I think it's as much as
she tries and as good as she is, it's some
of this business stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
The ruthless part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
I think, Like I was waiting for her to like
want Kate to help her, Like I was like, oh,
is this going to be? Like you know it's gonna
be Maggie and then Kate maybe like guiding her or
again just a way to figure out a way to
get Kate back into business Kate, which she already kind
of is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
But I just think that Maggie does have a soft spot,
and that's the kind of uh person you you want
in a leadership position that that that is that is
a little more heartfelt and humanized the employees. But Kate

(01:32:20):
is like, bottom line is if you want Titan to survive,
this is what you need to do.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
So there seems to be you know, I fall actually
in the middle here because I thought that they both
made very good points. You know, you don't want to
be that bitch boss who lays off people right before
the holidays. But Kate is right that their bottom line
is hurting and some tough decisions are going to have

(01:32:48):
to be made. So I think there's there's if these
two ladies put their heads together. I do think that
there's a way that both things can be accomplished. And
I think that Kate already is kind of finessing her
way into it. Where she won. She spoke her mind

(01:33:09):
to Maggie and she basically, you know, she laid out
the bottom line, She laid out the numbers. She gave
Maggie all the information that she had, and you know,
I think she's going to continue to tell you know,
Maggie like it is. And she's also I think she's
she's looking at the at the bigger horizon, and there's

(01:33:29):
a reason that she's telling Ari to go with the
Demara internship.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
I think I think she's she's slowly trying to finesse
her way back into the Demara fold a little bit
to see if she can help Titan. It's it's a
it's a Kate move. It's such a Kate move, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Think it did seem to be something a little bit
of an agenda behind, you know, when she was like,
there's just no internships. It tight and she's like, but
you know what, and I kind of and I kind
of thought, I was like, Oh, what is Kate?

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
What's her agenda here?

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
It's such a boss Kate move.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
I thought that was just a put Ari with THEO again.
I thought that's what that was.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
She has no no.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
In terms in terms of plot, yeah yeah, no. I
think in terms of plot that's actually what's going to happen.
But in terms of Kate's motivation, I think that that's
where her mind is going. It's twofold. It's I can
be a good a good influence to my great granddaughter
by helping her, you know, achieve a goal that she wants.

(01:34:37):
And I can also get my foot in and see
what's going on over there and see if I could
take advantage of the situation help Titan see.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
I I didn't even think of that part, just because
I think Kate has always been close with THEO, So
I think if she walked into Theo's office and said,
I think THEO would jump if the chance to hire
Kate if he wanted to or she wanted to. So
I didn't even see that is like an obstacle. I
didn't even think of it as that actually found Kate
to be incredibly reasonable in this. I two thought thought

(01:35:07):
that the scene was going to go differently, where these
two women were going to come together and like work
together in an interesting way, because I think we've been
getting these hints and seeing Maggie sort of come up
a little bit and wanted her wanting to get back
into the business and really have a big part in it,
especially now that Xander's sort of there and she doesn't
trust him and she's weary of Philip a little bit.

(01:35:28):
So I thought that these two were going to come
together and form some interesting sort of partnership outside of
the like laying off people for the holidays. I thought
Kate made perfect sense. She literally said things people do
in business all the time. She said, when the de
Mirror people were with Titan, they liked us better. They're
now back at Demira. They're a little iffy about THEO

(01:35:51):
being in charge now that Tony's missing, now is time
to poach them, which is perfectly legal to do. I
feel like they were trying to make it like Kate
was doing something sinister, but she just had a great
business idea, like these are technically former employees who are
not may not be happy with where they're at. Now's
the time to offer them a chance to come back

(01:36:12):
to Titan and give them a position and let's move
like I don't know, it just seemed like incredibly interesting,
smart business that I was sort of surprised that Maggie
seemed like, I don't know, she sounded like Kate. She
sounded like Kate was trying to like do something underhanded,
but it wasn't. So I was a little confused about
that scene. I thought she made one hundred percent perfect
sense of business wise, and I don't know, Maggie seemed

(01:36:34):
very reticent about taking her on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Y'all might need some new people, because with all these
switches in the back and forth and stuff, y'all just
need new leadership. Just just throw it in the trash
and start from trash back and follow. Also, our poll
has ended whose side are you on when it comes
to the business of Titan, Kate or Maggie. Twenty five
percent say they are with Maggi and seventy five percent

(01:37:01):
say they are with Kate.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Interesting all right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Also, I had a moment where I was watching and
I was like, Oh, we're getting deep voice Kate.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Lauren.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Like when she's like pub Kate Roman's wife, Kate, she
talks with like her like I would say, like Lauren's
her normal choice. But then when she's like business devious Kate,
she lowers her her voice. And when she was speaking
to Ari, I was like, Oh, we're getting deep voice, Kate.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
We're getting the listen. I don't have time for this.
Are you gonna listen to me or not? Kate? Yeah,
that's where we're at now. I feel you Kate. All right, last,
but not LEAs, our last tipbit is there's a stalker
on the loose. How many creepy letters would it take
for y'all to be creeped out? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
I mean yeah, I mean I hit one creep on
my Instagram and I hit the block button. If I
don't think you're a real person, you're you're automatically blocked.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
When she when she kept pulling when also congrats to
Holly for being hired over at Stephanie's PR company. But
when she kept pulling out the letters, all I can
all I heard.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Was no, No, not the bodyguard.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Anytime like a letter like that happens, I automatically think bodyguard.
And I am so tired of whoever that is in
that blackjacket with them with the black gloves. Just it's
just always and then well and then they yeah, it's
like who is it. It ain't Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
I don't believe it's Jeremy. Is the red whatever herring?

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Yeah, it's just so annoying. It's like girl.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Girl ye hmm, girl mhm. Seeds on the case.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Which I appreciate Alex kind of being like listen, look
into this, you know, but the but the way they
angled Stephanie when she got to Chicago, which also shout
out to two uh Art the art department. Y'all will

(01:39:46):
always make the Salem in look completely different, and I
appreciate you for that. It's it's always the same door.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Or or the same side of the same same way out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Yeah, but it but y'all make it look differ. So
shout out to y'all for working hard to do that.
But the way that they positioned her, I was like,
somebody's about to come snatch her up, but it was
just the man walking up to the door being like, no, no,
And I'm sad to hear that. But also I'm not

(01:40:19):
surprised that write out is not doing well. I'm like,
of course it isn't. Y'all wanted her to like pivot
from this.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Wanted more smut, Like yeah, they expected smut.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
They wanted smut. They didn't didn't give them.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
They wanted something that they could, you know, take to
bed and scratch the records and go to.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Sleep, scratch the records. Why would you do that? You
have to protect the records. You know what you should do.
You should put like a little ol on the needle.
So that way, it's a protected on the needle ubercate things. Yeah.
So that way, that way, you know, if you have
to suddenly stop it or something, it doesn't damage the record. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
No, you don't want to damage the record.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
No, I definitely don't want to do that. Yeah. Yeah,
don't damage your record anyway. Yeah. So we'll see how
that plays out.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
Yeah, I've had too much Red White risk conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
I know you started, like right before we logged down,
you started sipping they Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
We well, we all know it'll start going downhill fast.
So let's uh, let's move on. Everyone. That has been
your week of days. And we're going to continue on
with our favorite part of the show, which are our segments,
and we're gonna start with mine, which is Tony's official
three is NAPS Award, Tony's official NAPS Award. There we go. Oh,

(01:41:59):
it didn't play the first time. Yeah, I did hear
I didn't hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
I was like just this pause for.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
I was like, oh, he didn't want to play it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
I just he wanted more dramatic effect.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Oh well, I always go for the DRUMA am I
the drama. I'm not the drama.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
If you have to ask.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
My three snaps goes to, sometimes you have to have
someone tell you a hard truth.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
I don't know, Hollywood, not everything's about you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Just what Holly had.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
No, here we go, I've already said what I said. No,
not everything is about Holly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
But she was understandably, understandably what her feelings were. Understandable, Like,
at least from my perspective, I understood her friend frustration.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
Because she didn't be because after seven.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
I mean listen, I did it because after sending seven
texts to her boyfriend, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Said seventy seven not seventy seven. Well, listen, I mean
I get it. Yes, he could have replied back. But
sometimes you do have to be reminded that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Everything's about you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
Because it's not so Marissa Rayes, Mariissa riez Ari you
get Rayes. Yes, yes, that's what I said.

Speaker 7 (01:43:45):
You did not.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
And you're like, okay, Melissa ria Is.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Listen, listen, Yeah, you get Tony's a fit Please Snaps Awards.
Oh my gosh, it is now time for.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Tention that this caption.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
That photo comes courtesy of Rachel Halsey aka.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Alice Halsey, who plays.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
Rachel and her uh oh, I'm dealing with a psychopath look.
And this week's caption goes to our Glass fan one
on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
With their caption what the heck were they thinking with
the music in that mess of.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
The twelve eight week promo which you will see in
a few minutes here a audition days and then you may.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
H you've already watched it. You know what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
Well, we're gonna watch it soon. And that was.

Speaker 7 (01:45:02):
Tention that and now it's time for those.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
All right, everyone, I'm taking back to December second, twenty
twenty four, where we had the return of a few
fan favorites, Steven Olsen, Liz Chandler, and Marie Horton all
coming back for Doug's funeral. These are three people who
we had it seen in a while, especially Liz Chandler
and Steve Olsen since the late seventies, but most of

(01:45:30):
these characters had their big heyday the seventies and eighties,
but it was nice to see them in the reminisce
and you can check out those are the days extended
to get a little bit more context on who these
three characters are and why they were sort of perfect
to bring back for Doug's funeral. So yeah, that was
December second, twenty twenty four when Steve, Liz and Marie
returned for Doug's funeral.

Speaker 7 (01:45:51):
And those well, and now it's time for It's a.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
Gift, and this week's It's a Gift goes to the
enigmatic Rachel Boyd as Miss.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
Sophia Toy Sofia.

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
Toy giving her best impression of the clown from it.
You see it, right, you see it. Be afraid. This
is the look that says be afraid. Run the other direction.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
That says I'm about to funck. Shut up.

Speaker 4 (01:46:41):
If you see this look, run far away.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
That's like.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
This is like when you're in a conversation with someone
you think you know everything about and.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Since you got your degree and you know every fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
Thing anyway, and then you asked them, wait, did you
vote for Trump? That's the response you get and you're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Oh, oh boy oh, and that was oops, I need
to get back to them, was it? There we go,
Oh my goodness. And that was time for news and gossip.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
All right, everyone, we have casting information first, it is
finally happening. The weight is finally over. We very much
have our new Peter Blake in the form of Again
Got the Air. The character has not been seen since
the late nineties, but has been brought up a lot
in the last few years. We have the infamous One

(01:47:58):
Life to Live Star and Micros still favorite teen witch
star coming to make his debut on Friday, December nineteen.
So yes, Dan Gottier is our new Peter Blake. So yes,
he is finally making a return. Yeah, can wait to
see him. And then we have to returning quasi favorites.

(01:48:20):
We'll say mister Peter Porte is back as Dimitri von Moischer.
No word yet on when he debuts, but you can
definitely see him in the fall preview. And then yes,
Wes Ramsey is returning to Days if you were watching
that time. He was last seen on the show in
twenty nineteen. He played a character named Owen Kent. He
was Stephanie's stocker ninety Yeah, sorry, Stephanie stalker and kidnapper.

(01:48:45):
No official word yet if he is reprising oh when
They are keeping that a secret, but I think if
considering the storyline we're getting, I say it's sort of
leaning one way over the other. But yes, we're welcoming
back Peter Porte and West Ramsey to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
So yeah, oh I'm excited about all of them. I
love all of these people. Next up, Raven Bowen's recently
guest starred on Maurice Bernard's State of Mind. She talked
about her kind of nomadic childhood, her career path leading
up to days, and the tragic death of her boyfriend, which, guys,
that's that's a story that was that was kind of

(01:49:21):
shocking for me to watch and hear about that. That
she made you know, she pushed her way through that.
So if you want to hear all about Raven's journey,
we can watch her on State of Mind with Maurice
Bernard on his YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
Yeah, it's just it's quite a story.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
It's worth a watch. Yeah. Next up, we have big,
big congratulations to our departed mister Kerry Christopher. He's nominated
for Best Young Actor for the Critics' Choice Awards for
his performance and weapons, so a big, big congression. As
as we've talked about him over the last several months,
his care on fire and he has four upcoming new

(01:50:03):
shows coming up in twenty twenty six, so we will
be talking about him a lot. So so yeah, big
big congrats characters for honest nomination for weapons.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
Oh we knew you went, Carrie, but thank you for
being our Thomas. Next up, the people of Salem gave
us three people they would invite to their Thanksgiving table.
Check out who each of them picked and they're hilarious,
hilarious reasons why. Also, they did a little kind of

(01:50:34):
short segment on Giving Tuesday where each actor kind of
sponsored a charity that they would like to give contributions
for Giving Tuesday, and even though Giving tuesdays past, if
you want to go up and see that video, that's
also on the at day's Peacock social media accounts, So
check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Yeah, we have a new event to tell you about,
this one starring a newcomer Liam. This is Hank Northrop
will be joining Ry Gibson from General Hospital for a
Zoom event on Sunday, March twenty second of the New year.
Tickets and info you can go to Coastal Entertainment dot
com slash events.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
And that was news and gossip, and now it's time
for a peak as to what's coming up this week
on Peacock's Days of Our Lives next week on Days
of Our Lives, Bill, what's going on.

Speaker 7 (01:51:41):
Yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
What the carnation you doing it? I thought you had
my back. Turns out you think the worst to mean,
just like everybody else.

Speaker 5 (01:52:00):
Well, all right, dogs parking, sorry even by, we'll feed
you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
Whatever I think it's Tony. I hear dogs bark.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Oh yeah, it's it's mine. Yeah, all right everyone, Well,
something to look forward to. That has been our week
of Audition Days. Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
But before we head out, Mattis, where can they find you?

(01:52:35):
In your photos?

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
You can find me on Instagram and excuse me, Instagram
and X at m L Mattis and m L M Images,
l A, Justin Lee Harald from my Instagram at Justin
Le Harold R.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Sally.

Speaker 4 (01:52:51):
You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at TA
three two three.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
At Sally and you can find me on all social
media platforms at Lounger with Tony. And you can find
us Audition Day's show on Facebook and Edition Days on Instagram, Twitter,
X and threads. Thank you guys so much for tuning
in to another fabulous show for our members. We will
see you in a few minutes during our virtual event.
Can't wait to see everyone. And actually before we go

(01:53:20):
on our huge break, we're gonna have one more show
next week and then after that we will not be
back until January eleventh. But this is my and Michael
Madis's last show of twenty twenty five. R Sally and
Justin will be holding it down next week for our
last show of twenty twenty five. But before we head out,

(01:53:44):
we just want to thank you guys so much for
your continued support. Thank you for always tuning in. Please
make sure you tune in next week and then after that,
have a wonderful holiday, Christmas, New Year, Kwansa Hanukkah season
to all. I think I hit them all. Yeah, happy

(01:54:06):
and should all so thank you all, but yeah, just
keep that in mind. Next week is our last show
of twenty twenty five and then we will not be
back until January eleventh.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
Please come join me and Justin Lee Harold. We are
gonna make it fun. We're gonna hold it down there.

Speaker 8 (01:54:29):
They're gonna make it nice, to make it nice. Gonna
make it nice, making it nice. Clip clip.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Thanks y'all, have a wonderful week and we'll see you
back here next week for another full dish of Peacock's
exclusive number one award winning hitsap opera, Days of our Lives,
have a wonderful week, everybody. Bye,

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