John Black! Dishin' Days week of June 2-6, 2025

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four here. Speaking of all four, welcome back, Michael Madis.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Thank you, good to be home.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Michael Madis is all done with his bow jingles toward
the country.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
When I was leaving, my dad and stepmom drove me
to the airport. My dad was like, I think the
only one that's gonna miss you more than us. As
the store manager of Bojangles, did.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
You walk in and they knew your name and order?

Speaker 5 (06:17):
That's right, No, it's not years.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I back in the day, I used to go to
Boston Market, and I didn't think I went a lot. However,
one day I walked in and the store manager was like, oh, hi, Tony,
same order as last time, yes, but also how often

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do I come here?

Speaker 5 (06:49):
The McDonald's on Librea, there's a dude that usually works
during the day, and my order is the same, large
ice coffee, large ice coffee, large ice coffee. He sees
me men and he looks for it and he's like like,
like there's a lot of people. He's like, Nope, here
you go boss. I'm like, thank you. It's nice to

(07:10):
be you.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Know, remember and acknowledge. Yeah, yeah, I had. I used
to have that at McDonald's when when I was in
high school. But that was when my friends were working
there and I used to get food for free, and
so they would see me walk in and they would
just put the bag on the on the corner of
the counter. It was because it was the same order
all the time. It's actually still the same order to

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this day. Anyway, Welcome to Edition Days, everybody, What did
we think about this week's episodes of Days?

Speaker 5 (07:45):
These last two weeks. I know I wasn't here to
recap last week's but even the build up week when
you you know, you knew what was going to happen
and the reactions that you know, it wasn't all acting.
It was you know, probably the realist stuff we've seen
from these guys. Yeah, it was you know, and this

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week it was you know, sad, but also there were
moments so you know, it was sad, but at the
same time, good things were happening. Yeah, you know, a
bitter sweet, kind of kind of weak but good. Good
performance is very very good performance. Beautiful gap, no good performances,
don't getting no good performances and just you know, great storytelling.

(08:32):
I thought this week, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, really good.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I surprising and or good and surprising ways. And I'll
get into that when we do the outline book. Yeah,
really good week. I was surprised by a few people.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah yeah. If I start crying suddenly, guys, don't be alarmed.
I am going through it today. And this this week
of days did not help.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I mean, at this point, R Sally, why would we
be surprised of anything? Here? Addition, days we allow you
to let your emotions flow, whether they're happy, sad, angry, tipsy, whichever.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
To cry with me everyone, Yeah, oh what's that?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh? I needed this?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh god? Time is now three seventeen. We checked back
in thirty and see how this progresses. I thought, I
thought this week, gosh again, it feels like days. And
I remember, like I was watching that, I was watching

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it this week, and I remember when Christian Alfonso left
the first time, and I remember her being quoted as
saying that it didn't feel like the days she knew.
I don't know if that's a direct quote, but it's
like around it like she it was at a point
where she didn't recognize the show anymore, right now, huh, yeah,

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that was the quote.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
But I'm notizing not recognizing the show.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah yeah. And I feel like this week I was
watching it and I was like, oh, this feels like
days And again, I don't know if it's because of
the familiarity of Bow and Carrie and Will and like

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you know, and Eric and all these people that haven't
been on the chemis and coming back, and I was
just like, is that it or is it the writing?
Is it the story? Like I think I'm still trying
to pinpoint what it is, but once again, it just
felt very familiar.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
I think it's that the since the switch, they're making
a point to have it be a regular thing where
family members friends who should be interacting together are interacting together,
and the characters aren't siloed to kind of like their
storyline and their storyline only. I feel like that's now

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becoming more common than it was under the previous regime,
where we would get it every now and then or
when a big thing was happening or when there was
a big event. That's what I've noticed that just like
like people will pop into scenes and I'm like, oh,
that's that's not okay, and it's it's someone that it's
people that should be talking together, speaking, you know, in

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the same scenes or interacting with each other. And then
there's yeah, things are just these these conversations that are
happening are someone consider them maybe fluff, They don't necessarily
move the story along, but it's it's a moment. It's
like a nice moment. There's a lot of notice that
happening too, just like these like I don't know the

(12:04):
right word to use, but these just kind of mushy moments.
I guess I'll call them mushy moments, but not a
negative way. Yeah, that's what I've noticed anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
No, well, before we take a deeper dive, thank you
so much me world, it's http S. Don't forget the s.
It's for security, and thank you for paying one to
say that. You know, back in the day me word
used to pay four ninety nine for some.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Time is tough.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Times are tough? Times are tough? All right? Well, let's
break it on down, shall we, and get into the business.
It is now time to see if we can all
save this together in three two audition day days. That's
close enough, all right, let's set this and forget it,

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and let's start with our top storyline this week, the
heartbreaking goodbye John mm hmm. First of all, Deirdre Hall. Yeah,
my gosh, I who Yeah. That woman put in some

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work this week and I know more is coming next week.
But she took us through every emotion that doctor Marlena
Evans Black Rubbi show with film and I and and again.

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It's one of those things. And I felt this when
when Bill Hayes passed and they started showing Doug's passing.
It starts being that moment, where are we still in Salem?
Or is this a bit of reality? And I know,
like filming wise, Drake was still alive. I believe he

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passed shortly after they filmed the funeral, But I think
during this time people knew, like you know, that it
wasn't gonna be too much longer from what I know,
I mean from what I've not know, but what I've
read and heard. So it's it's those moments where you're like,

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you're watching the emotions of Marlena and Bell and Brady
and you're like, is this the character or is this
the the way?

Speaker 5 (15:02):
It's them trying to stay in character. That's what I's
them trying to stay. It's the real emotion. Those emotions
were real. You could you can't fake that what we saw,
you know, and even last week and I was thinking
about that. I remember back in September when Drake passed
away and it was kind of coinciding with us seeing

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like Christy Clark posted She's in la I think Chandler
Massey posted something about being on days and it was like,
I really, it's almost as though Drake knew what was
happening and held on until. He was so connected to
that character. That character was such a big part of
his life that he almost like I feel, I was

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always wondering that if he waited and knew the character
had died and then he decided, you know, obviously make
peace with the family and all the things that go
into that that he held on until, so he could
you know, live out kind of outlive the character.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah. I so if you guys didn't tune in, Michael
Fairman did a touching tribute to Drake Hoguson along with
people like Christopher Sean and Eileen Davidson and Steven Nichols
and Mary Beth evans Uh. They all gathered to pay

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tribute to to Drake. If you haven't watched it, head
on over to Michael Fairman's YouTube channel. I believe you
can see it over there. You're gonna sit through ten
minutes of everyone trying to figure out sound. But once
you get through that, it's gonna be just fine. You know,
it's a lie, it's technical difficulties. But I remember, uh,

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Martha Madison and Eric mart Software were on, and I believe,
if I'm not mistaken, Martha mentioned that I think they
they filmed, they they filmed all this and it was
like a Saturday that Drake passed, and it was during

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a hiatus, and she kind of mentioned how, you know,
of course it's like Drake to hold on to a hiatus,
you know, and and and and you know, kind of
mentioning that they needed that that grieving moment, because imagine

(17:31):
doing this and then coming back to work Monday, Like,
I don't I don't think people would have been in
a state of mind to to do that. But just
going back on on what Michael was saying about, like
holding on until everyone kind of came together and things
like that. That was one of the things Martha, Martha
Madison uh talked about but yeah it was uh and

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and I from reading online and talking to a few fans,
and everyone hesitated and waited to start pressing play on
these episodes because they knew that it was coming. They
knew that what was going to happen. But I have
to give kudos Today's for how how it happened. Like

(18:22):
I I know, like a few weeks ago, I think
I made the comment of like, oh my gosh, like
they're they're dragging this out, you know, But I think
the way that it ended up happening was just, I
don't know, it was a It was so beautiful and
so in honor of the character to send him out
the way that they did.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
H What I find I didn't, you know, think about
this until we they you know, I watched all the
players that on Michael Ferrerman this week was the realization
that when we were at Day of Days in October,

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we were weeks we were they're weeks after Drake had passed,
and so to hear that they had just those were
the scenes that they were finishing up wrapping as we
were going into Day of Days, as all of the
cast members knew that they were going to have to
do press and be on the carpet and talk to

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us and tell us, you know what they were excited about,
you know, showing us and what you know what the
tribute to Drake was going to be.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
They literally just come off set from doing that. And
I remember when we were talking. I was talking to
Eric and we were talking and talking to Martha and
when she said they had just finished that. No, they
had just finished doing that after day of days. They
had barely had a chance to breathe from losing Drake

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and film those scenes.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah. But also just because I think mm hmm, in
the very beginning of I think maybe him finding out
about this or shortly before it was the Daytime Emmys.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
That's someone I saw and I don't know, you know,
you read stuff on the internet. Don't know if it's
true or not. He got his diagnosis the day.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Of it was very bad. Yeah, he told her one
day because they were they were they presented that Emmy,
the Emmy the Emmy together and so they were spending
kind of the day together rehearsals and everything, and so
she didn't know that then, but he told her later
on that was the day.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Oh my god, and he you wouldn't have known.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You because I I spoke to him. It was him,
Susanne and James, they all they came in like three
and yeah, I still remember that very vividly. And and

(21:14):
Drake was, yeah, do you think we I remember there
was a moment you and I had Tony and we
said what we'll discoos it here, but something was going
on and we had said something about Drake and it
was like, now looking back.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
At it, it was like, oh wow, yeah, that explains it.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, And but Drake was always he was always super
nice and so loving, like every time we saw him,
every time he interacted with us, like just always a
super nice guy. And I think I always looked at
him in awe because I'm like John Black, you know.

(21:55):
And I still I still remember freaking out when I
finally got on Days and got the script and it
said John and I was like, I was like, oh
my god, I was like, not me playing Terrence with Drake,

(22:17):
like the legendary.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Earned the damn music down Terrence.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, I know, oh my god. I still I still
remember when he when he said that, and I was
like like like internally, I was like, ah, John Black
just coffee Terrence, you know, but he was like, oh gosh,
even even that day he was he was so and
it's it's such so appropriate for for for Pride month.

(22:45):
He was so gun ho about the Pride scene and
just having fun and being authentic. And I know one
of the things that Eileen Davidson talked about and Christopher
Sean talked about, and I think Eric Martzoff mentioned during
the Michael Fairman tribute were his stories. And I remember
being on set and he was telling stories about when

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he played baseball, and there were all these stories. But
in the midst of us filming this one scene and
then I remember he broke out those dance moves and
like those were authentically him. I mean, he was just
so he was so fun and and yeah and always
just such a an amazing person and an amazing guy

(23:31):
and such a legend on the show. But sorry, we
we digress from Drake Hogesen too.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
John, it's hard to differentiate.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, well, I mean because he was such a you know,
he was such an outstanding guy. But you know, kudos
to the show for for doing this right, you know,
and the moment this week of just seeing Marlene and

(24:06):
I feel like some some people, you know, we've heard
stories about this of people saying listen, if like stop fighting,
if you want to go, just go, like you give
them that permission, and having Marlena give that permission to
John and her just lay there in the in these

(24:29):
moments of just you know, I want to connect with
you until the very end, and then that second to
hear the machine just go and just her lose it.
I think we were all like, like, this is this

(24:52):
is the way to properly end this super couple. Like
everything that they've been through, all the ups, all the downs,
all the you know, the controversy, the the everything, to
know that that Marlena got to be there with John

(25:15):
and feel him and connect with him until the end.
I think I thought it was such a beautiful moment.
And again me as a viewer, I went to Dedre like,
how did like, as Dedre like, how does it feel
to like be in that moment? You know? And it's

(25:35):
not Drake obviously, but like you know, because because that
because I feel like that sound is just it's eerie
in itself to hear the flatline sound, but to know
what it all represents, it's just like I don't know, it's.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Just a lot, yeah, and realizing that, you know, you know,
Drake meant so much to all of us as a
Day's family, but he had had such a big family.
M he had a bit family pretty much as big
as John Black. That's why it's just it's so hard
to differentiate and like he like and and how how

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his wife Victoria must have felt at the end. It's
like it's it's hard, it's so hard to differentiate.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, kudos to DJO. This week, I was trying
to think why her like performance was affecting me, and
I think because I mean, it's Segar Hall. We know
she's really good or great, but I think her character
is so stoic, and her character is the psychiatrist, so
she's always there for everyone else and very much if

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she's not in the main storyline, she's supporting someone else.
So I think to see her front and center, and
also to have the writing dictate sort of her emoting
a lot, we don't get that a lot from from
Marlena the character.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I think.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Also what I think I love to highlight the writing here.
I loved just some of the like real life things
that like shows sometimes will gloss over like the fact
when I don't know if she was talking with Carrie
and Anna where she was like, I need to learn
how to do things by myself. That's a real concern.
When she also, which is something people don't talk about,

(27:18):
but she said this, and it like struck me when
she said everyone's here now, but when everyone's gonna leave soon,
and that's when everything's gonna go down. And I hear
that from people who've lost to you. I mean, I've
lost people close to me, but not I would say,
not a spouse or a parent yet, God forbid. But

(27:41):
that's what I hear. Like, it's great when people are
around for the funeral and everyone's supporting you, but you
sort of really need people the month after or you know,
six weeks after, sort of when you need people. So
for them to like highlight that in depth, I thought
was just really great just on the writing point and
then to have her vocalize that because you don't you
don't hear people talk about that. Usually people are basking

(28:02):
in the fact that so many people around them at
the time and are supporting them, and it's wonderful.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
But yeah, whoever, I mean, I wish we could talk
to the people, the writers in the writer's room, because man,
did they do a fantastic job with the dialogue this week.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Every thing from every character was spot on. It was
just every everything that you and there were no cliches,
you know, I think I appreciate that there was no cliches. Nobody,
you know, gave any of those annoying cliches that you're

(28:45):
supposed to say to someone when you know, when they're grieving,
when they've lost a loved one, it doesn't help.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
M h no. And the voicemail mh and just to
it's it's almost like that that reassurance of again and
it's just just amazing writing and amazing thought. Just a
simple voicemail that said I love you, Doc, mm hmm.

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And it's something that that you already knew. You already
knew the love that that John and Marlena had. But
to have that it's and and two and to have
her just replay that over and over again, that one
simple line. It wasn't even like a hey, Doc, you know,

(29:33):
I can't wait to be It was just a simple
I love you, oh so good mm hmm. But this
but I'm gonna tell you what not what irritated me.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
But I know you're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
There are moments and well, well, I don't know, I'm
going to say it now, though, there are moments in
grief where I feel like you need to allow the
person to grieve. Yes, like you don't have to be
in a hurry to come over to someone's house. Yeah,
And I remember, I remember when I when I first
thought this, my my grandmother passed away, my mom's mom,

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And I just remember people coming over and they you know,
and and you know, we were from the country, so
you know, people would come over and they bring food,
so you know, there's there's every type of chicken, and
there's this, when there's that, and then some people would
just come and they would just sit like they wouldn't
say anything, but they would just be there. And and

(30:44):
there were times where I would be like, y'all, can
y'all go home? You know, like it's it's like I
feel like there's a there's a grieving that you have
to do for yourself first, and then there's a grieving
that you do with people. And I feel like people
don't people want to skip the Okay, let me process

(31:07):
this first before others come over. Yeah, and and they're
quick to be like what do you need? What do
you have? And it's like sometimes I just need a
moment yeah to myself.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Like yes to the food, but you got to go away.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, it's like leave the food at the door, ding dong.
You should be in your car by the time I
opened it.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah. And then the people and then you think like, oh,
how are you going ever gonna eat so much food? No,
you get to the food eventually because you then you
start crying, and then you start drinking, and then you
need the carbs to get the food the alcohol to
settle and just yeah, it's a it's a whole thing.
The food will get eaten because.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, because okay. So and then this case, the first
people to show up was Paulina and Ay and I
was watching this and I was watching how it was
and I text y'all immediately when I saw this, I
was like, is it me or does Marlena feel annoyed

(32:07):
that Paulina and Abe were Because there was even a
moment where like like she hugged Paulina, and I swear
she was.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Like, yeah, she kind of did. That's why I was
like it. So I was taken apart by that.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
I noticed it, and I rationalized it as like, you know,
like kind of what you were saying, Tony, like she
was still grieving, she hadn't been able to fully process everything,
but she didn't. She also at the same time did
not want to be rude to her longtime friends. Yeah,
and I rationalized that reaction was about was to herself

(32:49):
not really being ready, not that she was annoyed by
these two people, but maybe that she was annoyed almost
with herself, that she didn't feel like she could fully
appreciate their their their kindness and their and their generals.
That's kind of how I rationalized that was just she
wasn't annoyed by them, you know, she she it was

(33:11):
all internal like maybe she just wasn't ready and and
just and and you know, you when you're grieving and
something like that, you acted or another reason would just
be like you act in ways you wouldn't normally act.
You're not really annoyed, You're just annoyed at the situation.
You're annoyed at what's happening. And that, you know, I

(33:32):
do appreciate the fact that they didn't have Marlena, because
you know, when this storyline started, she was kind of
like the tough one, you know, when they couldn't find John,
and she she was kind of really the tough one,
didn't really you know, have any She had emotions, but
she she didn't wasn't concerned, wasn't sad. She was And

(33:52):
I'm glad that obviously in this situation, they just let
her let it out, you know. But that's kind of
how I rationalized that moment, that she wasn't annoyed by them,
but she was just annoyed by the circumstances surrounding the visit.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And then she's doctor Marlena Evans. She is the consummate professional.
She's not allowed to be vulnerable, she's not allowed to
be anything less than perfect. At least that's how she
sees she might see herself after all this time.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah. Yeah, but then it kind of softened as more
more visitors came. But I was also just kind of like,
I know, she is so tired of this, this door knocking,
and it's just another person at there, another person that there,
another person, And I think that's why she left, like
she grabbed her person. She just went on that that

(34:47):
wall because she went to oh, she went to she
went to Horton town Square, but she also went and
told John's dad.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Thank you forgiving that. Dick Vandyke mentioned, Yes, we don't
get to see Dick van Dyke because let's not forget
it was Drake who got the man on the show,
got him that Emmy at ninety eight years old. Yeah,
another thing we can thank Drake for.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
There's also a picture. I think there's two pictures that
when they were scanning the pictures, I think there's two
pictures the group of with that when that was whoed
Dick van Dyke episodes aired. Yeah, so it's nice that
they still he's still a part, He's still a presence there.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, and you know, and then it felt like everyone
being themselves, like Julie coming in and be like, hey girl,
so listen. Uh, you know, Maggie brought these over ended
it and her there's always that one that doesn't read
the room immediately because they're so focused on them. And

(35:53):
I like that little bit of breakup because internally I
think we were all watching like Julie, Julie, Jill Lae
girl read the room and then and then and then
she ended up being a comfort to to Marlena. I
can't wait for Maggie to be a part of it
because I feel like Maggie would be another comfort I

(36:17):
I I secretly hope because I feel like I remember,
like remember when it was Kate and Vivian and mar
Lena and for some reason we loved that chemistry with them.
For some reason, hope that like Kate comes over and
just you know, show some love to to Marlene as well.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
They forget that mar Lena and Kate Kate, the Kate
Marlna relationship has always gone up and down, like their friends,
their support, then they're kind of adverse serial and then
they're back to friends again. Then they're kind of sereal
and yeah, all we got from Kate this week was

(36:57):
saying to Anna that John was a good man. John
was a good guy.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, was a good guy.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
That's that's what she That was her That was like
you had a thing for It wasn't long lived, but
you know, they worked together. I think it was. They
were a couple at one point. But you know, I
don't I don't think Kate usually get you know, they

(37:23):
don't usually give Kate a fair shot anyway.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
So well, I mean I would any script I mean,
I don't take exception with that this week only because unfortunately,
as Tony says, she's not.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
She's now not you know, knock on Wood a part
of this trio of widows now.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
True no get speaking of Kate though, Josh Taylor, he
with that scene it was him and Roman and Kayla
in the pub. It may have actually been the last week,
I'm not I can't remember if it was.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Say when he.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Like, that's the most emotion I think I've ever seen
Josh Taylor, and I don't know that they you know,
don't usually give him heavy emotional stuff anyway. Roman's the
the tough guy. But even him, I was like that,
man is really crying right now. Those two have been
very bad. We're really really crying. So and I'm glad

(38:25):
they included him in in this a little bit obviously
because they the characters share a big history. So so yeah,
I liked that they included him.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
And yeah, yeah, I'm just glad to I thought saying
they don't give Josh Taylor enough, and then when they do,
like he knocks it out of the park, and it's like, oh,
like more give him actually something to.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Do being in the pub.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
But I'm glad they acknowledged the fact that him beating
John being Roman was such a huge part of his character.
So have Roman also acknowledge it, like like he said,
like we started out as adversaries, we became friends and
it and he said, like, I feel like a part
of me has gone in a weird way. Which I
think that was like a perfect way because these two

(39:13):
have so so been sort of intrinsically linked to each
other in so many different ways. So just the and
then and then the not just acknowledgement of the reminding
of it by like Carrie being around and being there
and there for her as a daughter when she's she's
Roman and is who we saw this week and it's yeah,
like it it's acknowledging the things that are there, but

(39:36):
also like people speaking to them and.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
In acknowledging the immense gratitude. And I think particularly from
Roman and Anna, that John was such a pivotal part
of Carrie's life that he helped raise her, that there
was a time he raised her on his own when
they couldn't be there through no fault of their own,
they couldn't be there for her. Yeah, or they're that

(40:01):
emotion I think especially from and Welcome back Anna, Welcome back.
I didn't I didn't expect her to be one of
the lynch pins in my emotion this week, but you
could feel all of that coming off of her, and
that I think even Marlena didn't expect for Anna's visit

(40:22):
to be so weighted that Anna would be the one
to really say the things that might comfort mar Lena
in that moment, that would comfort Carrie, and that, like you,
that Anna's presence, Oh my god, was needed because I
felt that that mama hug that she gave Carrie at
the end of the week, where it's just like where

(40:44):
Carrie's like, Mom, I don't know what to do, and
She's like, I got you, I got you. You're never
too old not to need your mom.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
No.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
I'm glad that they had that Anna scene with Carrie
and Marlena because at first I thought we were just
going to at like boozy brunch Anna again the level
said it and yeah those yeah again, real emotions coming
through from those three actresses in those those scenes that
you know can be faked.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
I okay, how did we feel when it was knock
knock knocked, the door opens and E J. DeMier is
standing there, talk.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
About not reading a room.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Bro, come on, you know.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
Better than this, And the reaction he got was also, bro,
you know better than this? Like knows better?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, the way Marlena like it is like she was
grieving and then you know how you switch to that
angry side. Agree, like that's that's which flipped on and
she was she basically would should have just said what
the are you doing here? Yeah, she got real.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
But ex tim rawl EJ should have just texted or
called Bell and say how you doing doing? Okay, well
you need to show up at the widow's house. And
you know what EJ. EJ's smart enough to know that,
but his hubris and his ego overtakes him, and it
was tim he shouldn't have done it, but again it

(42:30):
was it was a typical EJ move.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
But to be honest, I might be by myself in this.
I actually thought it was sweet.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I think it was well intentioned. I think again not
reading the room, but I.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Think I think the the intentions were because he there
was a moment where he looked at the which side note,
I don't know why I noticed these things, but he
opened the phone and you know the photo of Bell.
I was like, isn't it from like like a or

(43:16):
from like the Day's fiftieth or like a red carpet
thing or something like. I was like, I was like,
I feel like I've seen that photo before, Like it
wasn't it wasn't the classic photo of like in front
of the glass thing. Yeah, and you know, maybe she's
just like you know, or like a selfie that that
he took of her. But but you know, there was

(43:37):
a moment where he was just gonna call or just text,
and then he was like, no, I'm going to be
there for her. And I think he knew it's not
it's not the right. It's almost like a catch twenty two,
Like he knew that it wasn't gonna be good based
on the interaction that him and Marlena had, But it's

(43:58):
almost like he felt like he had to be there
for the woman that he loves. And so when the
door opened and he was standing there and you could
feel just the sincerity of like, I'm really sorry for
your loss, but Marlene was not having it.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
She was like, dare you stand not to?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
And then Belle knew Bell was like, Hey, so we're
let's just get out of here, you know, and and
but I but I just texted I I felt.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Like it, like meet me, you know, hey, I'm down
in the lobby. Yeah maybe, or or I'm down the
I'm outside if you you know. Good intention.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yes, yes, I think I think it. I think it.
I think it showed the softer side of Sears to EJ,
and that he was willing to put everything aside to
even just show up and just be.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Inside of him before he gets like this with the
lady until something happens.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
But they but they all did, Victor Stefano, they all did.
They all were like that, and then there was a
woman that showed them the softer side and it softened
them a bit. Xander. But yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
I do support at least for the time being, because
I know we've you know, as as as somewhat of
an eck factor has Bell and e J together, Like
I've I've always been like, I'm like, I like them together.
They have good chemistry together, even though like what he
did to the sister and it's a bit.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
The history is a little murky complicated.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
I do support her kind of ending it for now.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah, this being the end to their relationship, well, I think,
I guess to some people might have come out of
nowhere and no sense. To me, it made perfect sense,
because after when you're grieving a loved one, things get
so real that you're like, I don't have time for
anything that I'm less than one and.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
For it doesn't have to be permanent. I'm not I'm
not saying I'm for a permanent breakup, but you know,
right now, there's just too much. It's too much, So yeah,
on a break maybe m.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Well, and then there's the complicated emotions of Kristen.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah. I was actually very curious as to how she
was going to react because there's such a longstanding history
of her and John. And yeah, I think I feel
like Stacey played it well because it's like because I

(47:05):
think there was even a line of like it's hard
to even think that like he's not here, you know
what I mean? So I feel like I feel like
there's that initial like wait what you know what I mean?
Like I I don't I think there's I mean that

(47:27):
that love that she had for John probably transpired more
over to Brady, but I feel like there there, hopefully
still is that little bit because I mean, that was
decades of her versus Marlena.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Yeah, you know, actually it wasn't really decades. It was
like if you if you know it was it was.
It was short, but it was so powerful we think
it was decades.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
But yeah, it was a couple of years of really
really really bad Chrison going off the rails, but then
her coming back like a decade and a half later, like.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Yeah, like eight or nine years I mean early nineties
to the yeah, leave late nineties.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah, so yeah, but I was happy that that kind
of they gave Kristen a moment to grieve to kind
of coinciding with dealing with with Rachel and then Rachel's nightmares.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Communition. I think I have a premonition, premnition. Mommy, Mommy
has a premition.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Do make it creepy?

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, Jim, Rachel be the new Celeste.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
That would interfere with her being the new Sammy.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
She can be the new Celeste Sammy Celestomy. Celeste to me, wait,
Celeste to me, Celeste to me?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Can we talk about Sydney girl? You never walked through
an airport before, broke her arm, broke her collarbone. I'm like, oh,
I can't wait for this character. To be on screen.
She sounds like a great.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
They truly did everything they could to just prevent this
from happening. And I'm like, and you know, everyone in
the chat has been like, does it do do we
know if she just had a scheduling conflict, like I was.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Busy, she was probably in Canada shooting a Hallmark movie maybe.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Or in Barcelona doing you know something. I don't know,
but I mean she came back for that for that
time that that she did, but I thought for sure
she was coming back.

Speaker 5 (49:43):
I can't imagine. I cannot imagine a scenario where if
Alison Sweeney could have absolutely been there, she she I
can't imagine the world where she chose not to be there,
you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, if it has
been all possible, even for like a day, whether she
like you know, blew into Burbank, which the.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Scene here there everybody, everybody, everybody flew in. Christy Clark
doesn't even live in the country anymore.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Yeah, But if it was possible, I believe, I believe,
I believe, if it were in any way possible, she
would have been there.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
But I have a question though, And and maybe they
they Sammy and John did forgive each other. But there
was also a moment where I felt like, would Sammy
be Like I feel like Sammy would be there for
Marlena mm hmm, but I feel like I question if

(50:42):
she would have been there for John, do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
And her son after him? Yes, she.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
And remember now we we have Sammy two point zero,
we have therapy Sammy, we have.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
I absolutely believe that if it had been at all possible,
Alice Alison Sweeney would have absolutely been there. It just
had to be like some complicated or the show you
know this, you know, trying to I can't imagine, like
the production coordination at days of our lives, asking me
one of the most stressful of coordinating, you know, who's

(51:18):
flying in here? Who's flying it?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
When?

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Can we have this?

Speaker 5 (51:20):
Can we have them on? Blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah,
like all these pieces of parts going and so on
that side too. They probably got you know, Christy Chandler,
uh while Leanne lives here. I guess that wouldn't have
been too but like seeing when everybody was available, they
probably did the best they could to get as many

(51:42):
as many folks, as many real folks back.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
So, yeah, people and people don't live here, people are working.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
It's a mess, as shocking as it is. Sammy isn't there.
If if someone had, if someone couldn't make it, it
makes the most sense as sas like, it makes perfect
sense a Christy Clock, like, I mean, people are talking
about Sammy, but I would be more affected if Christy Clock.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Wasn't there for this.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Yeah, even with Eric who I mean Greg Vaughan is
came later on, but the character of Eric has a
different relationship with John. These characters do then than Sammy did.
And again I think she's she got over her of
hating him. I wouldn't say they were like best friends
or like, I think there was fondness there I'll say

(52:30):
in terms of her to him. He always loved her,
But I mean, yeah, I think, And there was the
schedule's work.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
And there was a scene, a small little scene on
Friday where Sammy called Marlene and I guess after Sidney's surgery,
and you could kind of tell from Marlene's reaction of
the phone that Sammy was getting emotional that Sammy was
really upset that she wasn't there that you know, So

(53:04):
you know, it's a quick scene, but it's one of
those scenes that I'm really grateful to the writing staff
for having put in, because I made it evident Sammy
would be here if she could.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
No, they made a point that it wasn't just Sammy
flipping about it like she tried. She was at an airport,
she you know, And it's true, like when a volcano
erupted and there's volcanic ash in there. I worked when
I worked for a company where two executives were overseas
and could not get home because a volcano in Europe erupted.

(53:35):
Flights couldn't get it and they were gone literally a month.
So that's a real thing. In case you don't know.
In case you don't, it's a real thing. Happened like
it was like twelve fifteen years ago, and it happened
this week.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Matis it happened this week? There was a volcano that
erupted in Sicily on Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Picture it so there was I'm.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Sorry, I'm sorry, Selly, we couldn't hear you say that.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Sorry. I just got really excited about that because I
saw that. I was like, you've got to be freaking kidding.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Well, I feel like it was a little not this
wasn't like a pronounced one, but there was a little
bit of like a wink wink with like the characters
reacting to Sydney being especially Johnny's where he was like,
oh thank god, she's okay, but all right, like and
then Will I think was like wait what happened? Like

(54:34):
I feel like there was a little bit of acknowledgement
of like, Okay, this is this sounds absolutely ridiculous, but
we're gonna go with it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I think I think with the with the mention of
of Sydney, we thought like we would like we were
all anticipating, like, Okay, Sydney is coming, bitch, we are excited.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
Sydney is that girl in the videos that the viral
videos at the movie theater that keeps like that, Sydney's
the girl in the viral videos, like when she was
in the movie theater and like falls down. There was
a series of videos some like she's in a movie theater,
dramatically falls popcorn goes everywhere. She's in McDonald. I'm like,

(55:14):
that's Sydney. That's the Sydney we're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I once did that going Upstairs.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Fell up the stairs up movie I fully forgot you.
But we were speaking of Johnny and spoke of Johnny
and Will. I don't know why they're brothers. They showed
the same mom duh, and I was like they were
in scenes together and I was like, oh, yeah, they're
they're related, and he was like, oh yeah, we're you're

(55:42):
my brother or something like that.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
I'm like, I don't think and I think that we missed.
I think we misspoke last week because in thinking back
on it, I don't think that they have actually that
these two have actually ever shared scenes together.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
No, they haven't.

Speaker 6 (55:59):
They have.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Okay, I think they shared Okay, then okay, then I
think they shared scenes. But I think that the last
time that Chandler was on, I think they kind of
pushed that relationship aside in favor of, like his conversations
with Ali.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Oh probably, yeah, I wasn't a lot, but they definitely
have been directed on the show before.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Okay, hmmm.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
And then I think the only two people we haven't
talked about in this situation is Paul and Andrew.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
On Oh my goodness. Every time he's on screen and
starts to get choked up, He's one of those actors
like it just comes through and it gets you too.
It's infectious. Him and Eric martzof are just they the
way they get choked up and the way they start trembling,

(56:53):
and it's it's again real, it's you know, I feel
like that sympathy and that empathy.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Now, let's be clear, Christopher Schan is a hell of
an actor. He is amazing. That was an acting That
was one Christopher Sean because, as he said this week
and he has said previously, he was probably one of
the first people that Drake told, at least when on

(57:26):
a set. He he wasn't telling the wider cast. He
was telling a few people sprinkled in here and there
what was going on with him. And that was the
last time that he saw him.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
Mm. No, Paul and Andrew, I'm here for them. They're
they're they're good solid. It's nice to have a good,
solid gay couple to roof for on the show, not
the not the poppin' busy bodies that Will and Sonny became.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Speaking of another thing of like, oh, yeah, they're related.
When Andrew met up with Carrie and Will and Paul
was there that yeah, like seeing because I don't we
definitely haven't seen Will and Andrew together. So seeing them
together and then Paul standing beside him was like, oh,
that's right. They I know their cousins. But the fact that, okay,

(58:17):
another person in common who's been with multiple family members.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
You know, yeah, yeah, the son of Shane Donovan and
the son of John Black getting married hopefully during Pride months.
M I'm here for it.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
That that jump started very quickly. That went from we're
gonna Originally when John was sick, it was we're gonna
do it when he gets better to celebrate, and then
it became we're not going to do it because he's
not around anymore. Too quickly, we're going to do it
before you Now. Yeah, I know, it was like, wait,

(58:56):
what they getting married like right after the funeral or something.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
It was like, okay, I know, it's not like the
plan was to have it right now to begin.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Why why why?

Speaker 5 (59:11):
But maybe it is that was a way to make
it during Pride month though, like maybe they realized it
was like, oh, it's.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Have it.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
Be a happy bride.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Go gay hi gay kay. I mean, I still feel
like they could have had DJ Tarns at their wedding.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
But what I was going to say, they didn't book
you to need to come back and DJ the wedding.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Anyway. Well it's you now. Yeah, back to John Black.
That was the was a week yeah, and it's good.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Gonna be another one this week.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah yeah. All right, Well let's move on to someone
who didn't die. Bo was awake. Okay. I want to
start off by saying, how many innerations of Zach are we.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
Going to have?

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
I thought about that too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
I was like, I was like, now, listen, y'all didn't
want to be consistent because Zach was Scott Sheildstone twice
in Beyond Salem. Now he's a blonde.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Tall I'm like, drink of water. But yeah, but still, like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
You said, drink of water that Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
Wasn't mad about new Zach anyway. Scott still Scott does
not live here anymore. He lives in New York. And
maybe he couldn't and maybe they couldn't get the schedule,
so they had to get a second, third, fourth, twenty fifth.
I don't know how many.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Zach's only the second. Yeah, it's been Scott twice before,
so it's only totally one change.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Yeah, but again they couldn't work out it. Maybe they
tried and couldn't you know, it's not necessarily that they
were like Scott who whatever, No, it could be they tried, but.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
They could have easily casted a dark haired somebody that
looked like Scott.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
Okay, okay, yes they could have because.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
When it when it turned, it was like Zach, I
was like, girl, how many Zachs are we gonna have?
How many Zachs are we gonna have? And it's like
it's like it And then I was like, you know what, fine,
I'll buy it. Like it's like, you know, if this
is what you think. Zach looked like, honey, I'm here
for it. I'm here for it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Yeah, fine, cute, you know, nice to include him in that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Mm hmm. I but I'm it was it was very interesting,
uh this week to see kind of like life and
death happening. You know, you you were going through the
emotions of the passing of of John but rooting for
the awakening of Bo and was very happy that that

(01:02:27):
he came through. And how they did it, I think
was was very creative. And how you know, they Hope
and Sierra and Seawn Douglas were like a part of
that push and pull too of like I know, you
not defending, you know, and then he eventually woke up,

(01:02:48):
but then the whole discussion of what he missed, I
was like, who lord, you missed all that?

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Mm hmm to them for having that again. These are
things that we don't see when they do storylines like
this of someone sitting down and like or or they'll
cut back from commercial and it'll be like the person
just saying it, or you know, we we find out
they heard it in passing, but to actually sit down
and if the person asks too, like, yeah, what what

(01:03:17):
the hell have I missed?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
You know? Yeah, it's been.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Ten years theoretically since I've been myself, you know, or
have been here and around, like tell me. I mean
it was a little like you should also expect big things,
I think for that long time, do you know what
I mean? Like not saying I'm not saying he shouldn't
have expected Victor or Doug to die, but also like

(01:03:41):
not the biggest shots of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
If they did, it's just hard to find that out
all at once. I mean, yes, the world is going
to change. He has three more grandchildren. Now that's great.
You know, he's got two of them standing run for everyone.
One's named after him. That's that's so cool. But yeah,
to get to get hit with that one two punch.

(01:04:04):
You know, my dad died, your dad died.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I wanted. I wanted one of two things.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
I think either now they can just recast Ben Weston
to be another bad looking boy or whatever, or I
at least wanted Robert Scott Wilson in a motorcycle jacket
standing next to Sierra, even if it was just an

(01:04:37):
over the shoulder shot and him saying, you know, hey,
mister b you know, welcome back. Just something to just
complete the family and not it keep seeming like Sierra's
just out and about in this world without Ben, but
they're still like in love. They're gonna have to do something.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
I was okay with it for this moment. I was
okay with I was okay with it just being Bone
Hope and the two kids.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
It is weird though, when you you're sort of capitalizing
on the fact that it's the same actor. So it's
like it's not like you couldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
Get him, you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
It feels like he's where you thought this, yeah exactly,
like well yeah, yeah, well yeah, wink wink, yeah, there
are other issues at play, but but it wasn't a
scheduling conflict.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
But even with a recast, I was still okay with it,
like I thought it was. It was it made the
moment more special without Ben. Not to dog Ben and
say he shouldn't be a part of special occasions, but
in this instance just being bone hoping the two kids
and then the grandkids and and yeah, it would have

(01:05:53):
been like I don't know, adding or or like if
if if what's his face had brought Jada or something.
I know they're not married, I know they're not really something,
but if Sean had brought somebody, I don't think it
would have find.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
But think of the bigger impact if he was sitting
there getting this whole recap, but being able to see
his entire family, which in this case we were only
missing Claire and being.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
Chelsea and Chelsea.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Yeah yeah, let's let's I'm gonna save my outrage for
you know that Chelsea was not there, right, but they but.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
They mentioned her, they said they said her. She was there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
We just did on camera. Yeah you know she was
going to sweet Bits. Wait a minute, yes, yeah, question Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
They're in the Salem. Okay, this This is very loosely
derived confirmed that initially they were hopping Bow around to
hide him from Megan while he recovered. Eventually they the
Megan threat tampered down. I think sometime around the time

(01:07:14):
that Doug died, a decision was made to move Bo
to Salem or outside of Salem. So that's how Hope
could get to the warehouse so fast.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Got it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Okay, I'll buy it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Don't think about it, because it still doesn't make sense
why Kaylea and Robid would like it. If you think
about it, it'll your head work. Got its Salem now,
will say he's now in Salem.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
I'll buy that because remember when there were characters that
apparently flew back, flew back they were in Japan?

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Were they in Japan or China? And then later that
afternoon they were back in Salem. That happened once, so
you know, it's like some part trek shit. Anyway, Actually,
I was in Salem until they mentioned going to Sweet Bits,
and I was like, oh, I guess they're in Salem now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
I have to say I was a bit surprised by
how much I actually enjoyed these scenes, not that I
was like not not interested in Bowenholt, but I felt like,
how many years have we gotten this storyline of like
Bose here, then Bos dead, then Bos coming back, And
so I was kind of like, okay, whatever, like it'll
it'll be a nice distraction from the John stuff. But
when it actually came out, I was I was pleasantly surprised.

(01:08:34):
I thought Peter did a great job of like also
also showing that he's not one hundred percent but he's
getting there, so like not the feebleness, but the you
know they're taking his time, the slow speech, the like
still trying to get his mind right. I thought he
did a really really good job with that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Yeah, the scene that got me of all that, like
him finding out about Doug and Victor, but the scene
between him and Sean that's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
The one I was like, yeah, but that's the that's
the one we've been waiting for. Because even even Hope
was like I told him it wasn't his fault, and
it's like, you know, you need that reassurance from Bo
that like, no, it's not your fault, Like he was
like I would have done the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
Yeah, I think this they did a good job of.
Kind of course, correcting the events of their last return. Yeah,
starting to course correct. Yeah, I'm just kind of making
peace with with everything. Another reason, I was okay with
it just being the four of them and not four
of them plus spouses and whatever or about it. But yeah,

(01:09:41):
I've never been like the you know, I think I've
said it on the show before, like I was never
the biggest Bow and Hope shipper game I know, unpopular.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yeah, me too. I actually both get out of here
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
And that I actually preferred the character of Hope post.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Bo with you know, and I will always say Aiden
was the biggest.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
Loss, oh for hands down. Yeah. However, Comma this week
was was a bit different. I actually felt the Bow
and Hope mojo this good job, and I think it
was a perfect combination of of the writing, the characters involved,
the actors involved. You bought that this was like a

(01:10:29):
real family.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
And happy forty eighth anniversary.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Yeah sang, yeah, wow, a long time to be married.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Yeah. And now comes the up the fun part where
you know, we had to tell we have to tell Bo.
You know, your dad died, Hope's dad died. Oh, by
the way, your best friend just died, saving your life.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
He hasn't found out about John yet, right, No, No,
they haven't told him. You need to wait for that one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean he was already torn up about
about Victor, then he was torn up about not being
there for hope with Doug. John is just gonna especially
with it just happening, like that's going to break.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
The reason he's and then finding out the reason.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
He took the Bell stuff pretty like the like other
stuff of like catching up on life of like, it
was like, okay, the Bell stuff, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I now want a shirt of Peter Reckle's face with
the caption as long as They're happy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Yeah, I was like, okay, Bo, like like just woke
up from a coma and it's like I'm just glad
to be alive.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Like he's like he's just like as long as they're happy, well,
as long as they're happy. And I was like, I
was like, is this written like in the script that
many because that is now LiF's motto is like it's
like this happened, well, as long as you're happy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
And I thought the Sierra Theo thing was cute too,
because Bo that was very much bo. I want them
Sierra and THEO together. So that was a little I
thought that was a little cute little guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
That's how long he's been out of it, like he's
seeking twenty fifteen Sierra Holy Holy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Or even before that, the I mean theoretically before the
Soras it was you know, yeah, they were little kids together.
So yeah, I like that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:36):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Oh life, all right? Well both way, he's wide away
and we love that. You know what else, we love
the fact that there are two hundred and six people
watching us live right now.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Oh nice, you don't even have a guest.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Hey, hey, you two hundred and six people. Make you
tune in every Sunday here with us at three pm
Pacific standa times six being meson standard time, and make
sure you follow us on all social media platforms. I'm
going to say this again in just a few minutes
because we have another top storyline to go over, which
is now, this one is a page turner. I feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Kate.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
First of all, that manuscript is huge. It looks like
a Harry Potter boat. Secondly, I feel like we're seeing
that everyone has an interest in a novel like this,
and that Stephanie was onto something and so I'm wondering
what is going to happen?

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
Real those books are, That's a real life thing that
books like that are. There's a reason they're still they
selled so big. Yeah, there's a market that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
I thought.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
I thought it was so the one that I you know,
obviously Anna picking it up and reading it, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
But then you know.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
She's repressed to all hell, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
So I was like a week a story coming up. Yeah,
they got something here. She's a bit wilder than we
like to think.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Did we know that Kate and her like? I guess
that maybe didn't know each other, but knew of each
other because they acted like each other at least. So yeah,
I'm wondering if that interaction, followed by missus Toy getting
Randy from reading the manuscript is leading to to something.

(01:14:40):
It could have been a flat in the pan thing,
but I yeah, I just I chuckled when I saw
her reading and I was like, oh, yeah, if anyone
needs that, it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
I was like, yeap, this this is this is some
some popular material.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Mm hmmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
But then the last heart But then we incredib if
I'm wrong? The last we heard about it? What's his faith?

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Alex?

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
Alex pitched it to Kate, but then after you de kay,
Stephanie was like, no, I don't want to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Yeah, but I think I think Kate is still reading it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
But Kate still has it, and it's still reading it
as though the Alex has not done nothing to inform
Kate that no. No, and Stephanie doesn't know that Kate
has the book.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
No. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
I mean Stephanie is just going to have to get
over the fact that sex sells. And look, she's a
modern woman. She's obviously had sex before she can write
what she wants. This is not yet the Handmaid's Tail.
So if you want to live and let live and

(01:15:52):
write and let others do what they will with it,
go for it. Be more money in your pocket for
more toys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Because I got one hand in my bucket and the
other one is smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
I don't want to know what the other hand is doing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
The other one's smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Narser, absolutely not. Why would I ruin my lungs.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Anyway? Days, find somebody to write an erotica under a
pseudo name of Stephanie Johnson and publish I have that
at the next day of Days. Thanks, all right? So Oh,
one more thing to touch on before we go into

(01:16:43):
our tidbits the story. Since we were talking about Missus Troy,
the story of John changing her tire.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Agoo random but cute. It didn't feel I was okay
with it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
Was it necessary? No, but I was fine with it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
It was okay, like it was. It was a character
for Amy Troy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:17:11):
It was fine.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
She also could have just not had an experience with
John and just could have been like you know what
I mean, like it was a little tacked on for
no real reason. Like when she started talking when she
said like John was a good man, I was like, oh,
we're getting something here, and then she was like, yeah,
he helped me change a tire. I was like, that
is something John would do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Though, Yeah, it was okay with that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
I'm like, oh, that could have absolutely had to that
could have absolutely happened.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
Yeah, No, it was believable.

Speaker 8 (01:17:40):
I just thought like she could have just brought the
food and but then they have an interaction. No not Amy, Sure,
Oh no, you're right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
No, no, not no by that yeah, greedy. Yes, when
she came into the house and was like, nice house.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
It's all the blocks coming together. She's still she's been
targeting John since yeah, yeah, twelve years.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Ago, having not get this John Black money.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Oh gosh, we're still on that. And poor Sophia, Ah,
poor Sophia is not the way she should be spending
the end of her senior year.

Speaker 5 (01:18:25):
I remember, way before my senior year seeing grow in
one of my classes, like freshman year, maybe of like
how a baby is born. It is earned into my brain.
She's eighteen in a senior in high school and she

(01:18:47):
didn't realize.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Well, one, I don't think they show that anymore because
you know, schools nowadays think that some things are too
graphic for kids and that they're you know, they're too
precious to handle certain things. And I will say there,
I've known many, many young women who have gotten pregnant,

(01:19:11):
who have watched such videos and it were still still
don't listen, still get pregnant. And I just think that
just it's they're they're watching the wrong videos. I got
one word for you, women, apisiotomy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Oh who do what?

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
You watch that? Then tell me how worth it it
is to give birth?

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
But who's a piece of a enemy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
Let's just say the video of a woman giving birth,
just the woman giving birth. That's it with everything you
know going smoothly and you know nice and everything you
know that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
So those were here storylines of days this week seems
like a yeah, thank you r. Sally for a piece
of manamy, but yeah, we wish, we wish Sophia well
on this on this pregnancy journey. That has been your

(01:20:21):
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(01:21:38):
let's move on to our tidbits. Uh uh, Cat's full
of surprises. Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise. How does Kat recognize Sammy?

Speaker 8 (01:21:53):
Is a surprise that was really out of nowhere surprise surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
She think she knows.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
I got a couple of theories.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
What are your theories? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
I'm thinking that maybe Kat was in the same rehab
as e J and she.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
Knows her from Italy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
More, or if they're gonna tie Sammy to the accident,
maybe mm hmm, somehow Saddy the Kat's accident, the one
that killed the dad and put Cat in you know, rehab.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Yeah. I don't think that one would line up because
uh uh, Sammy wouldn't have been in would they've been
in Italy during that time? Why not? Would she? If
if Kat was.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
Young, I don't think No. I don't think that we
actually got a firm timeline on on when exactly was
in that accident.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
I'm assuming it's been within the last ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
It's yeah, it's been a bit, But I don't know
that we got the exact timeline of events I do.
I think I lean more towards your theory, Justin of
that maybe she was in the same rehab facility as
e J.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
But how is that not the same it would be
the same period?

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
No, no yet, yes, but no, no, what Justin Tony
was talking about tying Cat to Sammy Sammy to Kat's
original accident. They're two different things. What you laid out
two theories.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
They're both at the same time. If if she if
she's in rehab, she's in rehab from the accident.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the the accident
could have happened in Salem and then she could have
been sent off to the rehab facility in Italy because remember, oh,
remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
The accident happened overseas. I didn't even think that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
I That's the thing we don't We don't necessarily have.
We don't have full details over that accident that Kat
and her parents were in. We just know that at
some point Clyde got involved, and we know that Clyde
was the one who originally SHOTJ. So there's a lot

(01:24:22):
of mixed things back then.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
But but.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
But yeah, I do lean more towards the theory that
Cat and EJ were in the same rehab facility just
because their injuries were similar.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
That's what you meant when Sammy and Kat not. Yeah,
I was coming from the point that the accident happened overseas.
So that's why I was saying Cat and Sammy together
or would be, you know, timeline wise. But yeah, we
don't know. We again, we have ahead definitive proof mm hm.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
So that's one mystery that's lingering out there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Yeah, surprise, surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
It's not a surprise, is that kats now is apparently
an adrenaline junkie.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
The guy, the sky diving director is such this guy
that well kind of he's the one that kind of
hates his job.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
I love him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
He was great.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
Enough by the end. He now at the end was
like whatever, goodbye.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
I can't believe they went this far with this. Did
anyone else think it was just gonna get canceled? Like
they really investigated it was.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
What are they doing?

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:25:39):
And they brought in an actor to play outfits and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
It's also incredible. I find it incredibly unrealistic that Chad
would do skydiving as a single father. Most most single
parents do not do things like this, especially when their
other when the other parent was murdered a couple years ago, Like,
that's usually not something people do. They try and stay
away from risk averse, you know, situations.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
But but he did it on All he got was
a sprain ankle because he was too busy trying to
figure out left right left or right left right right.

Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
I understand Jennifer's reactions to things, but did she had
to slam those frozen p's down on his ankle that
hard rose with? Okay, already injured, Why are you gonna
be like remember slam? And even Billy like had a
little reaction. I was glad that he had a little

(01:26:40):
reaction to it, because I was like, yeah, that would
have hurt, probably already hurt. She's the lamb.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
I'm sorry. I know it is very bad for someone
to come back and pretend to be your dead daughter. However, Comma,
I feel like there is just no understanding as to
why she did it, and they're just staying mad at

(01:27:10):
this one aspect, and it's like she didn't come here
to deceive y'all, to swindle y'all out of your money
or something like that. She was under the control of
Clyde Weston, who had her mother. So was she selfish? Yes,
because she thought about her and her family over y'all's.

(01:27:32):
She ain't know y'all. She ain't had no ties y'all.
She said, you want to pay somebody to did I'm
gonna do it so that I can find my mama.
There's no understanding of this at all. And now it's
like Jennifer and Jack well, Jennifer walking in and just
still being mad over that. It's like, have you talked

(01:27:55):
to her? Did you try to understand her side of things?
People in Salem have done worse? I don't know, Jennifer.
Do we remember when you got hooked on peels and
you hit somebody in the in the car and they
and people came to save you. Yeah? Who did she

(01:28:16):
hit by? Gwen? Did she hit Gwenn?

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Are we still holding that against you?

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
One the the though, I agree, because I was like,
your reactions are being a little strong here, Like you
can just.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Say I agree period. No, we'll find Kama.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
But Kmma. But Jack and Jennifer have not. They've been
separated from it, you know what I mean. They haven't
been in Salem to see for themselves. Kat as not
Kat Green as herself, not Kat Green as the bitch
that took my tried to imitate my daughter or take

(01:28:56):
over my daughter's life. So in their heads I can
see how in their heads, Jennifer's particularly, I can see
how she might still be harboring that anger because she
has not been there to see it. Now, Julie is
the one I will say, Julie, I'll be I'll be like, girl,
you need to let it go. Because she even she

(01:29:17):
was like kind of poking the bear with it before
Cat and Chad even got back to the house.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Well, she just casually just mentioned like, oh yeah, like
Chad skydiving with Cat Green.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
She said it with Cat Green not and I was like, remember.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Remember Jennifer was like wait what skydiving? And then she
left it at that, she didn't say anything about Cat.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Well, they they kind of rewrote that scene because then
when Jennifer came back, she had all this information about
Cat that she's like I got from Julie, and it
was like, Okay, well you did it, but okay, we'll
go along with it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:54):
So you know, I'm hoping though, that we do get
a scene eventually Jennifer and Cat me, Jennifer softening to
it after having.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
A conversation yes, and then having having Gwenn come in
and say, oh, since we're getting over things, should we
get over how you got high off pills and ran
me over?

Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
We did get a Gwen brief. Gwen mentioned this week that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
A nobody heard from her a scene with Leo that
I actually.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Yeah, we'll get to in a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
But as we all ran over there, they were like whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
I was just making a little mention.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
We're going to get to.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
The As Tyler and our comments pointed out, you know,
the Hortons really do love to carry a grudge like
no other, you know, five ten, fifteen years down the line,
and just kind of keep holding onto that grudge. You know,
we still haven't forgiven Gabby for killing Nick even.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
That Julie again, Yeah, what was he doing?

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Oh yeah, he tried to rape her and what and
you know, you know, Cat, what did you? Oh that's right,
her mother was kidnapped and then oh yeah, Doug, Doug, Doug,
you know, you know, Doug original and never lied to me. Yeah,
he led everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
Else, right, This is also the effect of making Chad
essentially a whore and now like it's too close for comfort.

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
You're in the house.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Like it's one thing when it's Julie I guess, or
Julian Doug at that point, but now he's in the house.
Now Jack and Jennifer come in and there's like this
weird like you know, I'm gonna tell you what to
do or you know, this woman isn't allowed in our
family home, and it's like, you know, this is what
happens when you ingreate you, when you become I don't

(01:31:56):
know when you when you sort of made Chad a
whore in essentially now as opposed to his own character,
with his own life.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Which the last name Demera exactly. Yeah, to point out,
he's not a Wharton, Let's make that distinction very clear.
He is a Demera, which is why he has a
lot more understanding and a lot more forgiveness in him
because look who he's related to.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
I don't know if those equalities attached to the Demiras.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
No, but it's at equates to Chad because if he
didn't have any room for forgiveness, any room for understanding.
He would not be speaking to his siblings.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Yeah, I mean good to see Missy back, I mean always.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Good to see Yeah. All right, well let's move on
to our next headbit. B f F oops, Lord, Ari done,
alridy done, God digmatized Hanny.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
My favorite part of this whole interaction this week was
Doug asking Holly asking Ari how old she was?

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Oh? Absolutely, because he was like, wait a minute, I
found you in a bar. You just said They went
in the panic on his face for two seconds and
I was like, well, I'm glad they cleared that up.
But now Ari is digmatized and won't it multiple times
from Doug. I can see why though, because Doug is fine,

(01:33:38):
but that Ari is digmatized. That was a musical interlude
in honor of tonight's Tony Awards. Anything else about this storyline,
y'all want to point out? They need to like? I

(01:33:59):
like it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
I like the uh, the somewhat triangle. Maybe they're possibly
setting up, but they they He needs to know who
she is very soon. This is getting a little Yeah.
I mean he's working in the pub, he lives with her,
great grandfather. It's a little you know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
What was really funny to me was that when he
went to Leo and explained the whole situation, and he
didn't drop her name, because I was waiting for Leo
to say, oh, you haven't met her mother yet. M m.

(01:34:39):
And also side note for the scene when Raf came home, Hi, Rafe,
you're home home for John Trino and explained that he's
going to be working out of Chicago and so he's
going to stay here. So anybody who thought that, you know,
Raf was gone or going to be cast, let's put
that to better right now. His little comment to Gabby

(01:35:00):
that he's not a parent, so he didn't feel like
he had any room to say anything. I'm sorry, who
was the one who raised Gabby and ari uh Senior
and Dario? Who did that?

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Was it your father?

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Oh? No, no, no, it was you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
I was like, because he was like, I'm not a parent,
and I was like, I had to think. I was like,
he's not. I was like, wait, I know he had
the one kid for a while, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
But I was a little bothered when he said that
because it's like you okay, just because yeah, he just
because you haven't had a child of your own. At
this point, you basically raised your siblings and you've been
you were stepped you were stepfather to all of Sammy's
kids for years, and you've basically been like a father

(01:35:56):
figure to all of these other kids. Like I have
a lot of issues with Rafe and particularly his romantic stumblings,
but his ability, his fatherly feelings, his ability to be
a father figure is not one of them.

Speaker 9 (01:36:17):
Yeah, it's probably the best trait to be Yeah, mm hmm,
all right, I mean that's pretty much it, right, Okay,
let's move on to our last.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Tidbit, Kindred spirits with Leo and Jack at The Spectator.
Kudos to Leo getting the validation from Jack, who is
still part owner of The Spectator, that he is more
than just some ridiculous gossip columnist, that he is a
truth journalist.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Hm.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
I like the history.

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
It was a lot like some of it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
Of course, we know the Diana connection, we know. I
like that they acknowledged Leo's part in the John stuff.
It was it was a brief moment in time, but
it was it was significant to Leo. Yes, and I
forgot about the abusive father angle when they were talking
so I'm glad Jack sort of brought that up. It
was like, yeah, and not not that I ever thought

(01:37:22):
of them as similar archetypes, but they very much are.
You know, Jack was no, he had to go through
his own sort of redemption arc in Salem that took
a year or so years.

Speaker 5 (01:37:34):
Yeah, they can both be high energy and annoying.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Yeah, it's very much worse than anything Leo's ever done.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Yes, and and let's and Leo's best trait, which is
his flair for lots and lots and lots and lots
and lots of words, should not be a hindrance this week.
It's very much a trait to be admired. Because shame
on that Copy Eater copy editor for trying to to

(01:38:05):
shorten Leo's article on John Black. Honey, you write as
many paragraphs on John Black as you want.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Shame, shame, shame, shame. Oh, I tried to start a chant.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
I do I just do one? Chame?

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Oh? But yeah, that was beautiful, all right? Anything else
on that beautiful? Beautiful? All right? Y'all, Well, that was
your week of days, and now we're gonna move on
to our favorite part of the show, which are our
segments and we're gonna start with mine, which is Tonty's
of this show Three Snaps Awards. All right, my three

(01:38:50):
Snaps Award goes to miss de Dra Hall. Baby. When
I tell you, she put us through it this week.
She m bodied the emotional roller coaster that one goes
through when you lose the love of your life. We
wanted to hold her, We wanted to sit with her.

(01:39:11):
We wanted to bring her some power and say everything
will be okay. So de Dra Hall, Doctor Marlena Evans
Black Roba Show, you for such a dynamic performance in
these trying times, you get Tony's official Theree Snaps Award House.

(01:39:36):
All right, come on, Miss Dedra Hall, Oh look at
her just hmm, Deirdre Hall. Don't forget she is doctor
Marlena Evans Black Robas Show. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
I kind of picture her at some point this week
going to where I they do the editing business and
telling someone you fuck up my emmy reel. I'm coming
after you because all of it could be her emmy

(01:40:16):
reel and you know it's one you don't want to
mess up.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
And we'll get to that in a bit, I know,
I said.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Well, before we do it's fine. It is now time for.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
Ten all right. This caption that photo comes courtesy of
Ana Damira reading One Stormy Night, and this week's caption
goes to excuse me Misha Laurenstein from x slash Twitter
with their caption, I hope these aren't the Carry Diaries
that I've heard about.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Oh, the Carry Diaries. That's a different care.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
Though different car. Yeah, I thought was cute.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Yeah, I have to wonder are the stories written and
One Stormy Night actually happened or will happen for me?
Was it for me?

Speaker 5 (01:41:14):
Or night? And how can we hit well, how can
we deal with our stormy nights?

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Right? And that has been ten that Now, before I
introduce the next segment, I have to say, I'm going
to remove myself for a second because I'm about to
go do the gayest thing ever because I forgot to

(01:41:39):
do the gayest thing ever and that was hit record
for the Tony Awards.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
So then we have ten minutes. Let's just get their.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
First Well, no, that's not going to happen. I need
to make sure I see you from the beginning. So
while we travel back, let's take a look at.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
Jesus and take you back to June or two thousand
and three, when we psy good bye to Brandon Walker,
Abe's firstborn son, played here by Matt Sadina, who originalate
the role in ninety nine and left a lot, in
my opinion, a lot of unfinished business. He's a character
I think we all would want back on, even if
that is a recast or not, we'll see, But yeah,

(01:42:21):
I think they've been hinting a lot about sort of
spreading out the Carver family, and I think Brandon would
be a welcome back welcome back edition also if you're
a paid member. I did aid those were the days
extended on this, particularly how this opened up not just
the a Brandon relationship, but also the actually interesting enough,

(01:42:44):
the more dominant relationship, which is actually Abe and a Cole,
and how that sort of stemmed from him being Brandon's
father and the relationship of Fay and sort of Abe
and the whole Walker family. So yeah, go check that out.
But yeah, that was June third, two thousand and three,
when we said goodbye to and did Walker hopefully fingers
crossed he is back soon.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
And that was.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
And now it's time for It's a Gift, and this
week's It's a gift like Tony's award goes to miss
or doctor my Lena Evans Black in the if Looks
Could Kill section, Now, she just had like the most
reactions with DJ this week. Just the entire scene. Just

(01:43:38):
go through the entire scene, if Looks Could Kill, If
somebody gives you this look, leave my home.

Speaker 5 (01:43:46):
This is the look she gives the editor when she says,
don't fuck out Miami reel.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
That is the look Michael Maddis gives when there's a
tidbit like a two two seven. That's the look Michael
Mattis gives when that's just.

Speaker 5 (01:44:11):
I was like that to me that breakfast, Yeah, and
that was, Oh what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
It's a game.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
And now it is time for news and gossip.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
Starting off, we have some congratulations to some newly weds.
First off, congratulations to Kate Mansey former Abigail and her
new husband Matt mckinness. They just got married last weekend.
This was an interesting one.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
Guests.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
We're invited to what they thought was an engagement party
and when they got there they realized that they were
actually attending their wedding, so big congratulated to them. But
we also had Shelley heading of course original Stephanie, not original,
but the one that we know the most of or
spent the most time with Shelley Henning as Stephanie Johnson.
So she was in attendance to wish, Yeah, to be

(01:45:11):
there wish Kate, Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
If you were in the full article. They actually met
at one of her parties.

Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
One of what parties I think they met.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
This couple met at her birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Party's birthday party.

Speaker 6 (01:45:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Oh nice.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Congrats to Kate and her new husband, and a big
congrats to Stephen Nicholls's daughter. He gained a new son
in law, celebrated the wedding of his daughter Dylan to
her now husband Alex. And I think maybe a year
ago we told you that they were engaged when he
sort of publicized that and and let us know his
daughter was getting married. So yeah, we have the fruition here.

Speaker 5 (01:45:50):
Yes, so they congrats to Dylan and her new husband Alex,
and the Stephen Nichols as father in law.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
Yeah, and then we have a big congratulations two days
of our lives at large because they have been awarded
the Iconic Show Award from the Broadcast in Cable Hall
of Fame, which they describe as a legendary show with
lasting impact and still making history. The presentation for this

(01:46:20):
award will take place September thirtieth at the Ziegfield Ballroom
in New York City.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
Yeah, then we have We're going to give a shout
out to Blake Barres, who sort of found himself in
an interesting situation this past week. He sort of related
the story on his Instagram that he was putting together
his Emmy reel in that unfortunately it was a wrong

(01:46:49):
Emmy reel was submitted on his behalf and of course,
the Academy is very strict rules when they submit stuff,
so unfortunately they couldn't recognize the change. But he ended
up putting, uh, the Emmy reel that he put together
up on his Instagram page. So if you guys want
to go check that out of what he sort of
put together as his sort of best moments throughout the year.

(01:47:12):
And if you remember, this is not this is now
almost two years because of the way the Emmys do
their submissions and the calendar year for the Emmy, so
people are wondering why he's eligible. It's it's because of this,
but yeah, go check that out. And he also kind
of wanted to He did reveal that he was issued
an apology which he accepted and was sort of very

(01:47:33):
graceful gracious about the whole ordeal. But yeah, go check
out his instagram bears to see sort of what he
put together. And he made a note, made a point
to note he did a lot of the he wants
to highlight sort of the under wanted to highlight the
understate statedness of sort of his acting that he did.
So it's not a lot of what you would probably

(01:47:54):
typically recognize as sort of emmy reels that people will
put together, but yeah, go see for yourself. Check it
out at Blake Paris. So yeah, we just want to
want to give give Blake a shout out. It's an
unfortunate situation, but it looks like he very much is
being gracious about it and sort of rolling with the punches.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
So so yeah, yes, and uh, if you're interested. Gayleen
Garring made an appearance on Maurice Bernard's State of Mind.
His appearance was to day. I haven't got a chance
to watch it yet, but if you know Galen, he's
usually very hilarious and Maurice appreciates a good sense of humor,

(01:48:33):
so go check out his episode on Maurice's State of
Mind show, his segment on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
Yeh some days online stuff marisareas our new Ari Hortan
stop by the day social media studio. Do a quick
little trivia Tuesday. Go to these peacock to check out
to see for your chance to enter and win a prize.

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
If you guess correctly, to go.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
Check that out. Then, in honor of National Donut Day
last week, Dass actually released the infamous recipe for Alice
Horton's famous donuts, So go check that out and see.
I'm curious to see if anyone's actually tried these jet
They just released a couple of days ago, but but
I'd be curious, yeah, to see what they what they
actually it's like?

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
Are they easy introductions? I see two? Yeah, its eggs,
very expansive eggs. Okay, let's seegar one cup of milk,
five melt it okay. Oh yeah, this is simple. Yeah.
Rsel a, you gonna make these for us? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Mom? Rsel always baking good, bake them, make them Alice
Horton's donuts. Sands the weed though, yes, right.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
For for dad, your own ingredients? Yeah, anyone, anyone tries
these let us know how they came out. Then we
have a new music video for mister al Calderone Come
Get It, which we we told you he released last week.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
This week the what We Coming to Get.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
The video was released. You can check out the song
and video on all streaming platforms and on Instagram at
al Calderon and then the courtesy of mister Michael Addis
picture here. There was a little mini Passions reunion this
week at the opening night of the Weddings wedding you
have to call me theater here in Burbank, or of

(01:50:34):
course was there with wife and sons and supporting the cast.
Who happened casting director's wife who happens to be Kim
Johnson orch If you were a Passions fans, you know
she played Eric's mom on the show. I've been Winthrop.
So yeah, little this little Passion's reunion here. I don't know, Michael,
you have any insight into this one.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
No, he just took the photo.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
No, okay, you just say, okay, I.

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
Mean it was it was, it was, it was. It
was like the opening of the wedding. Singer became more
about the Passions reunion, which was interesting, but yeah, James
Hyde and I talked about being from Ohio. We're both
from Ohio, just forty five minutes from each other. Jesse
Metcalfla good.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
Yeah, uh, Eric was some that played the Witch.

Speaker 5 (01:51:22):
Yeah, yes, Tabitha Mills. No, jul Mills played Tabitha.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
Yeah, my mom.

Speaker 5 (01:51:31):
So I was never a Passion's viewer. My mom watched Passion,
so I just kind of watched loosely, so I kind
of knew who everyone was. But yeah, it was kind
of a funny, just kind of a random thing. We
got We got there and got the list of people
who were going to be there, and I told the
pr I was like, we need to get all of
these Passions people together for a photo op.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
And yeah, well, I mean for you, Michael Madis.

Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
Whatever, me and the other photographer noticed it and whatever,
and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
Good for you because you see knowing stuff. Y'all want
to hear a funny story. I met Jesse Metcalf one day,
very randomly. I was at my house, minded my business,
and this was like a few years after I moved
to LA and the girl who lived in the studio

(01:52:20):
behind the house liked to throw these big, elaborate parties
and I told her nobody can come in this house,
but everybody was like in the backyard there was a
porter potty. It was a mess. Anyway. Before the party
even started, there was a knock at the door and
I was like, oh, here we go. I opened the
door and there was Jesse Metcalf because he knew He

(01:52:43):
knew my my roommate who lived in the house at
the time, because my roommate was a trainer and trained him.
And I was like, wow, this is how I met
Jesse Metcalf. He don't remember, but it's fine, I too.

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
And yes, and that talks it. That is actually betap
the It's a sort of a funny wink wink joke
that she is the Tapitha from the Witch. So yes,
it's not just the name thing. She's the actual Tabitha.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
Oh is she.

Speaker 4 (01:53:13):
That she's the Tapitha for It was a wink wink?

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Yeah? Did you like that? Wink wink? Michael Madis.

Speaker 5 (01:53:19):
I didn't care at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Yeah, Michael, Michael Mattis, did you like that that that
wink wink? Or or was it giving?

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
I didn't care the time because it wasn't it wasn't
my show.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
It was my mom, it's it's a cult thing. Now.
I need them to do a Passions reunion at like
a nineties con or something.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:53:44):
They did a Santa Barbara reunion at the same theater
that this thing was at. They did a Santa Barbara
union last year, so maybe the Passions reunion could be next,
because yes, Passions did end up having a very the
same kind of cult following the Santa Barbara.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Did apparently, So yeah, we're still here for it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
M Beautiful gowns, beautiful gown beautiful gowns.

Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
We want to give happily heavenly birthday to Bill Hayes,
who would have celebrated his centennial one hundredth birthday this
past week.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
So yeah, happy.

Speaker 5 (01:54:22):
The face did not change that it's still him.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Yeah, that's that photograph is from nineteen thirty, A grown.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
Man even in nineteen right, I look at the city.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
Oh gosh, we miss you, Bill, We miss you so much.
And coming up in our events, we have a big
spectrum celebrity event this next week already, so not this Monday.
Following Monday, we're gonna end. This will be a Pride
Month event with Christopher Shawn and cold In little this

(01:55:00):
will be it's a Q and A with me and
greets and oh yeah, who's hosting?

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
Okay, oh this just then breaking news. Pup up up, up,
up up up. This will now be hosted by James Jr.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
JK JK Tony is hosting this event, so please go
to Spectrum Celebrity Events.

Speaker 5 (01:55:26):
No, that was a joke.

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
James Jr. Is actually going to being what.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
Yeah, the picture, well this is the rundown.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
Well this just happened today right before we got on,
So this okay news. James Jr. Will now be the host.
I don't know how you missed all that and said
j Anyway, he'll be hosting.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
I'm like, okay, no, but if this breaking me, then
you need to tell me before the show or you
need to put it in the private chat.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
Maybe there was a time.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Forgot We've been on the air for over two hours.
There was time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
How are you mad at the breaking news that's being
given by the person.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
Who was forming are when are you can do? You
can even do it when I'm talking, I won't take
offense r. Sally is talking. Okay, all right, all right,
here's the private chat. I am not hosting event. Anymore. Pero.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
Remember at three seventeen when she started the wine. It's
now five oh four and the wine has hit because
now she mad that I gave a breaking news of
something that happened today.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
You thought this was wine.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Please y'all go and support James like Junior in hosting
this event. It's going to be amazing breaking news, but
obviously broke somebody. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:57:02):
Next up, the Day Players are continuing their tour with
shows in San Banco, glen Dale, and then of course
they're Toronto Glendale running through September. I'll ticke it's and
information you can go to the The day Players band
dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Who justin.

Speaker 5 (01:57:22):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:57:22):
I can't even shout it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
The day Players from now on. That is how the
day Players have to be said. You can't just simply
say the day Players. That does not have the pizzazz
that these men possess. It is the Day Players and
Glenn Dale.

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
What comment.

Speaker 5 (01:57:52):
He got it? Oh my gosh, some Matthews dinner early,
don't knock.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
Oh gosh, I needed that dinner?

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
Is something else?

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
Thank you is.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
Starstrek Fan Events is hosting a fan event in Orlando
the weekend in October seventeenth through nineteenth. This will be
attended by Stacey hi Do, Kasey Moss, Cherry mane Is,
Paul Telfer, Lindsay Godfrey, Matthew Ashford, and Brian de Tillo.
For more information, you can follow at Starstruck Fan Instagram

(01:58:36):
No No on their Instagram as more information becomes available.

Speaker 4 (01:58:44):
Next time we have for a Star Image events, we
have the Summer Concert and Dance party we've been telling
you about the weekend of June twenty to twenty first
in Montreal, Canada. Then we of course have the aforementioned
day Players concert who they teamed up with the Star
Image that one September sixth, and then we have for
Days of Our Lives in Nashville, happening the weekend of

(01:59:05):
October fourth and fifth as a holiday inn in Nashville.
All tickets and information you go to event bright dot
com slash Star Image Entertainment.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
And then Samantha Friends and Friends will be hosting their
Haunted Mansion event the weekend of September thirteenth through fourteenth,
and for tickets information for this event you can go
to Samantha's Friends dot org.

Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
And let's been not at least we have our Jazz
and Heroes event. This is a charity fundraiser Veterans Health
Network with Friends show Great Bond Here again. It's two
events won during the day and one at night, happening
on Saturday, September.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Sixth of this year.

Speaker 4 (01:59:43):
And all tickets and info you can go to soap
THISI dot ticket, leap dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
And that has been news and gossip and now let's
take a look what's coming up this week.

Speaker 5 (02:00:09):
We're here to honor an incredible life and legacy.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
For forty years, he defined heroism and romance. That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (02:00:18):
Next week, join Days of our Lives as we celebrate
the life of John Black.

Speaker 5 (02:00:24):
I don't think we're talk enough about how funny my
dad was. Baseball can bring people together, plea saying take
me out the ball game.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
And I bet he was calling out swearing for the fences.
Good night, my love. It's again it's like, how much
is that is real?

Speaker 5 (02:00:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
And how much is that as the character? Wow? That yeah? Yeah? Wow.
All right, Well, we will be back next week to
chat about the life of John Black. In the meantime,

(02:01:11):
that has been your week of diition. Days before we
head out, though, Michael Mattis tell everyone where they can
send you a coupon for bowl jingles.

Speaker 5 (02:01:21):
Ooh uh. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter or x
at mL mL Mattis, R.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
Sally, Justin where can they find you?

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