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Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's time to start Titian Days with your hosts Tony Moore,
Michael Madis, Justin, Lee, Harold and Atta, Satti Adelas and
now let's.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Dish Why Hello everyone, Happy Sunday. Welcome to Audition Days,
where we give you a full scoop of this week's
episodes of Peacock's number one hit award winning soap opera
Days of Our Lives. I'm chyinga I standing in for
Tony today.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
What's a full scoop?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
A full Ladyl.

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Speaker 3 (03:41):
And hello to Mama Moore. You could be off today.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Tony did well.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yes, his job told job told him you need to
be here. So unfortunately, Yes, Tony is a working man today,
so that is why he's not with us.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
To be fair, we will all be working Friday.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yes, and on that note, we there will not be
a show next Sunday. We can just get this out
of the way. Next Sunday we will be off, but
we will hopefully have some content to be posted from
the daytime, Emmy, since all of us will be there,
all of us, James Junior will be there as well,
So yeah, we'll be We'll be a long but fun day.

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We have to check it at noon and the show
is supposed to end at seven.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yes, a long day. I'm wearing my comfy shoes.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
And since it's not on television and there's no time constraints,
we'll see how close they ended. We'll see listen to
that seven pm. Oh my gosh, we'll still be sitting
there at nine pm. Like you know. It'll be fun though,
It'll be a fun day, just a.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Long day, just a long Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well we'll cover that a little more in detail later
in the show to remind you all. But yes, the
daytime was will be this Friday, so we will be
covering that. So we will not be here next Sunday.
So but you will see us around if you follow
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on our social media platforms as I previously stated, for
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scenes content.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And then if you want to watch the Emmys, you
can watch them at four pm Pacific time seven pm
Eastern time at watch Dotemmys dot tv.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, Friday, it's Friday, not Sunday, guys, It's Friday.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Friday, the seventeenth, Friday, the seventeen. And who asked about
something else?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
What days?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh that was a net And as of now, there
is no day of days. But as of now, don't
count on it.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah that is news.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, so last year was so last year for people
wondering last year was the official sixtieth celebration kick off
off Day of Days that we were if you would
go back and watch our videos, we were celebrating the
sixtieth anniversary as we kicked off the sixtieth year and
that content because they had already been well into filming

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that and so that content will conclude kind of this
year with a big to do on screen.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
We don't know, Deaf. There hasn't been an official announcement.
We don't definitely know. But it is October the twelve,
twenty fifteen, and there hasn't been an announcement yet.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, so that the cast that has been promoting things lately,
and not once has anyone ever mentioned the Day of
Days this year. So I think it's pretty safe to
say they're not having one this year.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Unless it's going to be a real race to the
finish for it. Twenty twenty five, not twenty to fifteen.
Thank you in Nette for correcting.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yes, it's twenty two.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
I want I want to be thirty five again.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yes, if we sound a little bit chaotic today, please
forgive us. Our minds are kind of like pre prepping
all the stuff we have to do this week, so
bear with us. But the show must go on. So
what did we think of this week's episode of Is
of Our Lives?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I thought this was a great week. I thought there
was a lot, a lot of engaging, A lot of
engaging things happened this week. Just to just a reference,
I sat down Wednesday and I was like, oh, I
watch Monday's episode and see what was up. I ended
up watching Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday all at once, just because

(07:40):
I was so into what was happening. And I gotta say,
Rachel Boyd was like my star of the week.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, I really liked this week. I thought there was
again a lot of engagement, a lot of things going on. Storylines,
certain storylines have been annoying. I think were like maybe
or hire there's we're annoying. We're still annoying, but well
acted this week, so I appreciated that. So, yeah, good week.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yes we're gonna have we'll have thoughts. So, without further ado,
let's kick off the show. It is now time to start.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Butt it and forget it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I do not have an hour glass, but you can imagine.
All right, So our first storyline of the week is
who is the father? As we came up to a
pretty definitive line in the sand that Tate is not
the father of Sophia's baby, as many suspected, as many

(08:47):
of our fans were kind of hounding and sounding the
alarm for months and months and months, y'all were right, Well.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
I was gonna say, technically he's not the father to
the firehouse baby. Okay, we're still you know what I mean. Again,
I'm sure it's Sophia's baby, but it seems like that
can also be a question too.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I'm not sure it's much of a question mark, but
I see your point. Let's go with it.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Well, they're testing the DNA, so that was a plot point,
so you know.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Okay, then the next but any in any case, no, no, no, no, no,
But I I don't think that's a plot point like
that we need to question necessarily. I think it's more
of that was more of a general just point that
they made as a workaround for Kayla and Sarah so

(09:46):
that they didn't break confidentiality.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Well, actually, that was one of my theories was that
it's not her baby either. So that's why I think
I think a lot of people thought that too, that
maybe it's not her baby either. So it's you know,
maybe some for something. So that's why I think.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
That could there have been two firehouse babies that night, I.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Would think that Hovey would have brought them both in
at the same time that happened, Yes, But in any case,
the facts as we know them are that Tait is
not the father of that firehouse baby. We can assume that,
if it is confirmed to be Sophia is by the
DNA that she gave Sarah, that he was never the

(10:29):
father to begin with. So then that leaves the question
of who is the father. Now, our audience has been very, very,
very vocal about who they think is the father. Do
we think, I will ask my fellow gentlemen here, do
we actually think that it is Aaron?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I mean, what we know about soaps, it's probably I
would imagine it going that way, even though it could
go several other directions that maybe not as predictable. But
I mean, it's the easy option.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, I think. I mean, I'm hoping it's not Erin
and they do something a little bit more interesting. But yeah,
I think the predictable or lazy option is just to
randomly make it Erran. Even though we have they've gone
out of their way to specifically show us that that
Sophia and Erin have never had anything. And then even

(11:30):
remember that conversation they had to the Square like six
months ago or something four months ago, it was like
it seemed to be like they were they were putting
a period on that theory that they didn't do anything.
So again, if it eron, it seems like a little
bit of a retcon.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Maybe yeah, I mean, there's never been any kind of
indication that there was anything like they I think there
was a scene, you know, where they hung out once
or something, but you know, and I guess maybe that
could be the what they you to write like, oh,
they hung out, but hey, they also you know, they
also happened to have sex that day and just never

(12:06):
had any conversation about it afterwards. Were never awkward, But
there is there is that Aaron stayed away. Aaron did
under the the you know, helping the mom in Canada.
He was away for a while. They could write it
that oh he that's why he he took the opportunity
to stay away because he was nervous someone was going

(12:29):
to find out that he and Sofia and that you know,
it was like a betrayal to date or something. Okay,
So that's why I'm think there's so much that they
can do to set it up that way that you know,
it would be really easy to do. But the the
what am I trying to say? The the twist would

(12:53):
be if it's actually not Sophia, if it's not Sophia's
baby either, that would be a good that would be
an interesting time whist. But someone in the chat room,
I think Annette said, we definitely know it's hers, But
I don't remember how we definitely know it's hers.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
I don't, well, I mean other than the fact that
she said it's hers, But I think that like this
said that there's a theory that she's not the mother either,
and that she had some sort of break, psychosis or something,
and then she's pretending or that the baby died that night.
That's what I originally bought, Like her baby that she
gave birth, that we saw died that night, and then

(13:29):
this is her having some sort of a mental break,
which I don't know. To me, it all seems more
interesting than Aaron being the father. Whether she is, God forbid,
she was attacked unfortunately by someone else, or there was
there's a theory of incest. There's also theories of, you know,
the baby isn't hers and she had a break. I
don't know. All those things sound far more interesting than

(13:50):
just making Aarin the father.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, that the it's more interesting.
I think the consensus among us is that timing wise,
making Aaron the father would make sense. But from a
perspective of yeah, but from a perspective of like writing,

(14:14):
it seems a little lazy, especially given the few interactions
that these characters have had. There's been, like we said,
there's been no.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Indication more children, and.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Like, is there is there some Stefano, you know, hanging around?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Look, I wouldn't be surprised, but can we limit this
pregnancy to the to uh to the living? Can we
limit the candidates to currently alive?

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Listen? Aaron is only slightly more realistic than Stefano.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Okay, So what I just remembered what what were everyone?

Speaker 4 (14:57):
What?

Speaker 3 (14:57):
How they presented without presenting it that that was that
the DNA test matched Sophia. Sophia's DNA matched baby to
sorrows Because at the end of the show, when Kayla
and what's her face, Sarah, we're talking to Brady, They're like,
from the results of this test, we can only tell

(15:20):
you they said it in a.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Way, you know, they said it without saying it. Yeah,
said it without saying it.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, regardless, I think yeah,
So the consensus is that it would be kind of
lazy to make Aaron the father the baby. Any of
these other twists that we have pulled out that are
out there in the universe, I think would make more sense,
not to mention it would be a greater credit to

(15:49):
the character of Sophia than she slept with his best friend. Also,
that doesn't do that doesn't do any good to the character,
oh Sophia, mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Or then like it's also the thing of like they
do this trope where how are also how are they
going to explain it now? Because she when was it
Sarah who told her that the DNA didn't match Tate.
She was shocked at first, but then she considered the
other option. Whoever, you know, will find out wherever the

(16:25):
other option is. It's looking like Aaron. But it's always like,
well you yeah, I mean, you know, it's simple math.
People like yeah, but also, where's the father? So if
it's Aaron, so Aaron didn't question either, or like maybe
it's like you said, Michael, like so he's intentionally now

(16:45):
deceiving Tate. Because then it's then it's sort of like, oh,
did he have a drunken one night stand with Sophia
that he forgot about? Then that's that's slightly more innocent
versus I'm letting my best friend go through all this trauma. Yeah,
his baby mama. And I'm not saying anything knowing I
could possibly like it's it's a little sticky. Yeah, it's

(17:08):
a sticky.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
It's it's kind of it's it's sticky, it's kind of lazy.
It would require if they were to go this way,
it would require a lot of explanation.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, no, yeah for sure, and and yeah and again
there's just so many other ways you could you could
go with it? And what what what's bugging me about it?
And I know this is just how how the the
storytelling is now, but like, like these things are revealed,
it's like we as the audience, know that Tate's not

(17:37):
the father. Then Sarah kind of finds out and then
it's like, okay, tell everybody, like everybody else figuring out
like Tate doesn't even know no one. And I know,
like Sarah can't call Tate. I know that would probably
be sticky. But and but Brady, Brady didn't tell Tate
like he's known right for he he has.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
He was waiting on the second test to confirm, and
then he was going to tell him because he wanted
he he knew that Tate was kind of spinning out,
so he wanted very clear, definitive answers before telling Tate anything.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
But wouldn't that be like his first once he got
those second results, wouldn't the first thing he did take
out his cell phone and.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Go, well, that was just Friday. Yeah, that was just Yeah,
that was just on Friday.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
I guess because a conversation with Kayla and Sarah. So
he's still there theoretically.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Okay, I guess I'm getting confused about when when everyone's
finding out things or figuring things out for themselves. There's
been a lot of that happening too lately.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
I think it's because we're like, oh, like, that'sn't happening
with Chanel a lot.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah. That I think was probably the surprise of the
week was just how fast Johnny and Chanelle got there
for having them so out of the loop.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
They got there quick, I know they did.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, you those young twenty something brains, you know, they
did there. They don't got kids, they you know, they
got their jobs. But that's it, and they're still you know,
they're still sharp, they're still you know, young themselves.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
So yeah, that was nice for me. I do agree
it happened fast, but I liked it. I liked that
it wasn't we didn't get another sense of miscommunication with everybody,
And it wasn't we didn't get three weeks of them
being pissed at Holly or talking about her and then
you know, so I like that everyone sort of sat

(19:39):
down for a second and like let the anger and
stuff subside, and then like really, it's like, okay, let's
actually approach this intelligently. What makes sense here, what doesn't
make sense here?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
So yeah, I actually really liked that they went to
Holly and exonerated her quickly. Wait that Johnny and Chanel
went as soon as they figured out what had happened,
they went to Holly and said, we believe you. You
didn't do this, Just so you know, you didn't do this.

(20:13):
Because Holly was about to skip town under the impression
that she had embarrassed herself that she created all these
problems with all these people, and they immediately, as soon
as they figured out, they immediately went to her and
said no, no, no, no, no, you were set up.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, and then only right before that did Holly find
out that Sophia was in the room all night then
spent the night there.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, it was just a matter of everybody putting the
pieces together separately and now coming together to be like, Okay,
Sophia is pulling all the strings here, and.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Like we've been saying the past fewyus, like, Sophia's not
like some you know, she's not a Sammie. She's not
like some dbies mastermind who's like thinking ten steps ahead
or plot you know, these plots of these sort of
like deceptions of hers and plots of hers have been
very amateur. Will say, even though she's like kept them

(21:06):
up and kept people on their toes, they're not you know,
they're they're not well thought out. She's sort of taking
a step by step. So I like the fact that
it's taking that it makes sense that people would put
it together rather quickly, or even like when Brady said,
like it's looking like Sophia. I can't prove it, but
you know, with everything that's happened with her, it wouldn't

(21:27):
surprise me.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, Now, given all of the information that is currently
out that people have already pretty much put together, it
all still leaves the matter of baby to Soda and
where's he gonna go?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
So say, you know Tates had the picture, he know,
he figured he is informed that the baby was never
has to begin with. Okay, he's free of that problem.
Thank god he didn't need him. That we still have.
And then and Johnny and Chanelle say they can clear
things up with social services. Okay. Again, still leaves a

(22:08):
matter of what to do with the baby. Where is
he supposed to go? Do we do? We still think
that Johnny and Chanelle should be contenders for this child,
even knowing now that they know that this was the
baby that they were originally supposed to adopt and then
backed out of.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Surety them, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Okay, I mean I must be the only one that's like, uh, well, you.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Think because they he backed out originally, that you're saying
that should disqualify them.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't think it should disqualify them from adopting. I
think that if they're ready to I've always thought if
they're ready to adopt, if they really, if they as
a couple feel that they can adopt, that's great. But
I feel like this situation, this child has just been
this it's because far too complicated. It's become far too complicated,

(23:04):
far too sticky, especially since like the mother still lives
in town, the biological mother still lives in town, and
at this point, she's made it pretty clear she doesn't
like you. So even though she doesn't have parental rights,
even though and even if you managed to adopt and
everything went smoothly with the court system, you would still

(23:24):
have a situation where the adoptive mother has voiced extremely
strong objections and could make like very life very difficult
for you.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I don't think there's any more Okay, So with that
being said, are you for But are you for Ore
Hovey and Leo.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
If that is what Sophia wanted. And I'm not saying
that Sophia has any moral or legal rights to say
what is best for the baby at this point, because
she really doesn't. But that doesn't mean that any potential
adoptive parents can just discount her feelings because you're then

(24:13):
raising a child for its entire life. Say one day
that child grows up and asks about the every every
you know adopted child eventually asked about their biological parents.
What was the situation back in the day, And if
they get the story, you know, this woman was a mess,
She didn't want us to raise you, blah blah blah,

(24:34):
it just it becomes Look, it just becomes a mess.
Not that anybody's origin story is ever clear cut, but
it doesn't necessarily need to be this messy. And maybe
so Sophia has no idea that Leo and Hovey are interested,
and maybe she would have less objections, or maybe she
would go with her original plan. She would want the

(24:54):
baby to would be adopted by strangers. That part is
up in the air. We don't We don't know what
her feeling is are about any of those options. We
do know how she feels about Chanel and Johnny.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
That can eventually be explained, like if they're going the
route that Sophia became unstable based on her you know,
traumatic experience giving birth by herself and all of that,
it can be explained that she did that because she
wasn't technically in her right mind, and if she goes
to get help, they could kind of course correct with

(25:31):
Johnny and Chanelle and say like, Okay, we understand now
that she was making trouble because she wasn't in her
right hand right And just one more point you mentioned, like, oh, well,
she's still in town and she can make trouble. She
can decide to make trouble for Hobby and Leo if
she chooses to. So like with that. If that's the rationale,

(25:55):
then then you would think that the baby shouldn't be
adopted in Salem, should be adopted somewhere where Sophia is not.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yes, that would be I mean, I think that that
would be best for all because at the end of
the day, it's about what's best for the baby, not
who had claimed to him first, or who has claimed
to him now or back then or whatever. It's about
the baby's already here. The baby is a few months
old now, the baby is growing. He's not gonna get

(26:26):
he's not gonna stop growing. So while they're all trying
to figure this out, this child is still growing up
and needs stability. Now it's like he can't we somebody
needs to figure out that. We can't wait he cannot
wait for all of these people to get it together.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Well, I think, I mean, has there been the stop?
The only stop has been Sophia herself. I mean Johnny
and Chaudell. I mean, they seem like once they realized
that the the cutoff for her to claim him again
was up, then you know he's up for adoption. And
it seems like that that hasn't really stalled. I mean

(27:11):
we've saw, we've they've mentioned that lots of people want
to adopt the baby. Johnny and Chanel went to Paulina
to kind of get some special circumstances, and this is
sort of where they're at. It's only been it's theoretically
been the next day right from their interview. Thanks, yeah, yeah,
I mean moving along.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I know they're moving along quickly in terms of people
finding out, but anticipating the mess that this is. It
could drag out longer than this kid has time for it.
And people say, you know, like, oh, he's a baby,
he won't remember. But this baby is growing, he's hitting

(27:52):
milestones in his life. He's reaching points in his development
where he should be bonding with permanent caretakers, like he's
already bonded with Leo and Hobby. That's not to say
that they are necessarily ready to be parents.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
But.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
This needs to be figured out where he's not going
to be going back and forth.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Agreed.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Going back to the original question of Johnny and Chanelle
being an adoption option, I don't think the fact that
it's a messy situation is their fault entirely. No, there
is a little bit. I just don't think that should
be the rationale to keep being like, no, you can't
have this baby, Maybe we can find you another one,

(28:35):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yeah, I'm kind of with you. I also think, like,
I don't think Sophia gets a say in any of this,
or I'll say this, I don't know what say she
would have had in a traditional sense in this if
in terms of giving up and not giving up, I
want to stop saying that in terms of placing your

(28:58):
baby in Essentially, she put him in foster care and
now it's their decision to side, sort of like the
personal adoption thing is sort of off the table now, said,
she so essentially has no rights now, which you know,
her choice, which is fine. He's in a good place,
he's not being harmed. Whatever. I also think that the

(29:19):
idea like, I probably feel differently if I felt like
Sophia had real conflict with Johnny and Chanel. I think
the conflict stem from him not saying him saying rightfully,
so I'm not ready at this time to be a parent. Yes,
that disappointed her. I don't know if that rises to
the level of I now get a say to sort of.

(29:42):
I don't know. This seems like a developing pattern with Sophia.
You piss her off, or you make her angry or jealous,
and you know it's my baby. Now you're not having
any rights to that. I get to control it. I
don't think she ever had any control. I think this
is a lot of this has been delusional on her part, unfortunately,
probably because of the trauma she suffered. I still I

(30:07):
slightly put Johnny and Chanel over Leo and Hovey. But
I think wherever this child ends up between the two
of them is fine. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
You know, so you know, if if this goes the
way that we think it's going, where you know, Sophia
is getting backed into a corner, everyone's kind of figuring
out what she did that she's kind of pulling the
strings the fact that it's not uh Tate's father. If
she ends up being you know, away for a while,

(30:37):
and then the storyline could be a custody battle between
Ho and Leo and Chanelle.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
That could be what goes on in airing too.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
If he's Aaron or whoever, the who you know whoever
might be maybe you know the third party. It could
it could be like you know, a custody but and
then they could also make it, like I said last week,
like a losing eye Isaiah type storyline where the baby
does get settled somewhere and then once Sophia comes back
into the picture, wants the baby back, and then that

(31:07):
could lead to this could this could lead to years of.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Please now please no, please know for On behalf of
baby Tea. Please know.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
This is not a real baby. R s.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
It's a quicker. I will say this, well will I
will say that if the well adjusted I think what.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Well adjusted?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yes, yes, it's not like he shot someone when he
was a teenager. That's that didn't happen that.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
I'm just kidding. I don't know whose follow it was.
I will I think Ifon is the dad, then he
he to me. The rights revert to him as the father.
He's not, so he did not make the decision to
give to place the baby. You know what, whatever, we'll
find out whatever he knew or did it new and
know in the future. If he is the father, we'll see.

(32:07):
But if if that's the case, and I think it
to me, it resides with him first. And then if
he wants to relinquish his parental rights, or if he
thinks I want to do this with the support of
Kat or my family or whatever, then I think he
should be able to. I would put him if he
is the father, above Johnny and Chanel and then Hobby
and Leo. That's sort of my ranking as.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
A No, no, that's not even that's not even your ranking,
justin that's the law.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Well yeah no, not in terms of Johnny and Chanell.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean like yeah, no, yeah no, but yeah, but no,
but no, no, in terms of Johnny and Chanel. It
is because it's a if Aaron is real to be
the father, and he goes through the process and takes
a purity test and everything is written then and he
did not give up his parental rights, then yes, he
has the right to claim that child as his own.
And this is all a mooch point.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah, I'm talking about in terms of Johnny and Chanel
over Leo and Hobby. That's my personal choice.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, don't matter.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, that's I'd say the ranking numbers my personal choice.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah. Yeah. So it's just.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
One more thing I want to mention about this and
what why I said that Rachel Boyd was like my
my rock, my, you know, star of the week this
week that those scenes was Sarah her and Lindsay Godfrey,
like those scenes between them starting in the pub where
she she was like make time, bitch and you know,
dragged her ass to the part Sophia actually showed up

(33:37):
after she was don her chip and those scenes with
the two of them, and then when they they cut
back to Sophia after the confrontation and Sarah saying she
knew it wasn't Tate's baby, like the teer, like like
the this, like the the face, but then the one
tier I was like, oh shit, okay girl. Then they

(33:58):
cut back to Sarah. Then they cut back to her
other side another year. I was like, oh, I was like, okay,
Rachel Boyd, she's feeling this and yeah it was it was.
It was great, And that's I think at the point
I texted you guys where I was like, this week
is really good.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yes, yes, yes, we love Rachel Boyd and for and
actually it's because we love Rachel Boyd so much as
Sofia that she brings such depth to like you feel
like this character has been traumatized that we're like we
kind of really don't want her to be the father
because it's that because it's like it would it wouldn't

(34:36):
it wouldn't really be nice.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, I think she brings a lot of sympathy for Sophia.
I think if she if it was played by a
lesser actor, we just would just generally hate Sophia and
wouldn't see. Yeah, it'd be easy to disregard her, But
I think what she brings to it, and a lot
of people would make comments of like is it the writing,
is it the switching of the actor? You know? So,

(35:01):
I think Sophia has been all over the place emotionally
since we met her, and there's been some extenuating circumstances
with that. But I think in terms of Rachel's performance,
I think she's I don't think it's been like she's won,
you know, she's played it this way and then she
automatically switched. I think she's given us layers throughout the performance,

(35:24):
very inten.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I think everything she's been doing is very intentional.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Also, Rachel Boyd watches my Instagram story, so thank you
Rachel Boyd. I don't think she likes them, but she'dn't
like him, but she watches him because I have no
look at that stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
So yeah, we see you. Yeah, we see you. We
follow us. We appreciate it because we appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
And last week, to any any any even inkling of
the thought that Holly was going to be leaving, no,
I figured this was.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I think, you know, knowing how things go, it's it's like, okay,
she's lead. And I remember this has been done so
many times where a character is leaving because things just
aren't right and she has an out and then we
start finding out everything. It's like, no, no, you can't
leave yet, Like you know, I don't think she's actually

(36:19):
gonna leave.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, though, I still say, and I will stand by
this to my dying day, because they did this. They
did the same thing on Summer. I turn pretty please,
young women, young girls quote me on this. It is stupid.
It is really stupid to give up studying and living

(36:42):
in France for a boy. It's stupid. I can't even
be kind about it.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
He says.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Period.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
He has said period, No disagreement there not at that age.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Too, not no, no, not at that age.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yes, yeah, I would say yeah. I would say yeah,
I even though I know it's probably not going that route.
And I love having Holly and and Rachel poos Emmis
poos EMUs.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Every time I hear that name, you know who.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Who I first heard Rachel Posemus's last name from. And
it's stuck in my It's stuck in my head. Every
time I even see her name. I hear him say
it was not Jonathan Taylor Thomas, God, what was his name?
Jamie martin Man, Jamie martin Man. I knew it was
three names when he was on that When he was

(37:44):
on the show, he said her full name. He said, oh,
that's how you pronounce her name. That has stuck with me.
Every time I read her name, I hear him say
poos Emmas. But no, anyway, I love I love actually Poseemis.
I love having her as so I don't want her
to leave the canvas. But to our Rsli's point, yes,

(38:06):
live your life when you're young, don't.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Don't. Don't give up your life for the deed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
I can't believe it took us all this time to
make the Jamie Martin man Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
I was like, why is that name? I got there,
old man, Michael got there.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I mean he does. He does kind of look like
a mini Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
By the way, Hi, Jamie Martin you.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yes, we love you, miss you. We hope you're doing
very well. Last we heard he was on Broadway.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
I think he's still there.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, good for him. Yeah, good for him.
Like we knew you when, dude, and we and we
wish you well. I still remember you, wish you well. Yes,
So I think that wraps up that story. Yeah, so
let's see what happens with that. And now we have
the fortieth anniversary of Miss Jennifer Devereaux, also the fortieth

(39:13):
anniversary for miss Missy Reeves. When we look back at
Jennifer's journey forty years in Salem, wow, it kind of
makes you look back and a lot so a lot
of people are really hitting milestones this year. This is
kind of like the forty club where you realize, like, yes,
the eighties were definitely like day's heyday, but then you

(39:37):
start seeing oh this person, this person hit the anniversary,
and then this person, this person, and they were all
kind of almost at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
next year, it's fifty for Dedris, it's really cool to
look back on everybody's on, everybody's journey in the scenes.

(39:57):
So what do we think that they before we get
to the but modern day stuff to the present day stuff,
do we think that they What do we think of
the flashbacks that they used.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I like the stuff with the Hortons, like Alice and Tom.
I thought was nice. It's always nice to see them again.
It's nice to remember Jennifer when she came to the show.
She wasn't Yeah, she was a little bit not troubled,
but she was a little bit misguided. Misguided. Yeah that's
a good way of putting it. Yeah, that she is now,

(40:29):
which makes sense considering her parents of a Yeah, yeah,
I like that stuff. You know, I love Jack and Jennifer.
I do. I like not only the characters but the actors.
But I've never been the biggest like Jack and Jennifer
stand for me, So for that I could have taken
and Leaven left a lot of that. I wished we

(40:51):
got a little bit more of other things. And I
understand probably like you know, you know, behind the scenes stuff.
A lot of times when you clips like that, you
have to pay other actors. So a lot of times
if you're wondering why sometimes when you get these anniversaries
and they just happened to focus on the one person
or the relationship that the person has with someone who's

(41:13):
still on the show, That's probably why. So I think
I would have appreciated maybe if either if they had
the budget or if they can handwave it, maybe a
lot of Jennifer's either other romances or a lot of
her other friendships or just career things like remember whence
she had the talk show in the nineties, when her
Jack had that, Like I don't know, stuff like that.
I would have appreciated a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah, I agree with you. It was nice seeing you know,
the it's always nic seeing flashbacks, and but yeah, there
was a lot more. There's been a lot more to
Jennifer Rose then. And I know they mentioned Emilio and
Frankie like by name, but actually seeing them or some
of maybe her other love interests that have come ABU

(41:58):
and I know they can't. I know some other people
have play Jack and they can't show. They can't probably
can't show like Mark Valley and the other guy, and
they're not going to show, you know, stuff with Stephanie Cameron,
like that's you.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Know, that was not going to show Stephanie.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
But even though I love Stephanie Cameron.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Thought, I didn't mind. I like, I like.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
But but focusing on on Missy Reeves, Jack and Jennifer
were very loud.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
They were always a quirky couple, which that I always
did appreciate there they were not always so straight lace
I guess, but.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
I and you know, I came in when I came
into the show just my personal view. I came into
the show with Jack and Jennifer being Melissa Reeves and
Mark Valley, which was a very different Jack and Jennifer
than Missy Reeves and Matt Ashford. Mark Valley's Jack was
was quieter and just a little more like low, lower

(42:58):
key than than Matt Ashford Jack. So that's that's the
and I think when you when you come into a
couple like that, that's not the origin. The originals are
like the the ones that played them when they like
blew up, you just have a little different perspective. But yeah,
oh yeah, and then they were in the.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Circus, but I think that was.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
That was when that wasn't it. That was Dephanie Cameron
and that was But yeah, there was just you know,
it would have been nice if if they could have
been more comprehensive with it, but we understand why they
They kept it focused on like Jack and Jennifer and
and JJ since he's there, you know, he was born
and gave his name.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
It was a little funny too, because you could tell
they were really skirting around things because when Jennifer, which
you mentioned Frankie was like she was she was relegating
in all the high school where it was like, girl,
you almost married Frankie right before right before JJ, like
right before you had.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Working JJ was a baby. Yeah actually yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
And then also, of course they didn't mention Patrick Lockhart,
who delivered JJ. That's where I thought they were going.
I thought they were going to mention Patrick for a second,
and then I was like, okay, like yeah, you were born.
You're born because another man delivered you. The man who
was involved for briefly with your mother.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
But yeah, yeah, it's always funny.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Like they very much like made a zig zag with
some of those storylines to like, you know, make it
fit a little bit.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, I mean, look, Jack and Jennifer are staples of
the show, Missy Rees is a staple of the show.
That being said, this is our show, and.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
We this is our show.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
We can be we can be okay with saying that
they tend to skirtle round a lot of Jack and
Jennifer's shall we say, misdeeds.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
So are you talking about the plot now you're getting
into the plot.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
I mean his I'm saying his doorically, but also but
history lens to today.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
In which I mean, and you know, I thinking about it,
they wanted to keep it uplifting.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
They wanted to keep it They.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Didn't want to be like, hey, remember when I was
in a coma and you went and bank Kate Roberts, Like,
of course they're not gonna like that yet, you know.
So I get they wanted to keep it positive and
so you know and again they yeah, I get, I
get why, But I'm just saying, in my opinion, it
would have been nice to see a little more well

(45:36):
rounded comprehensive look back, but it was it was nice.
What I absolutely did.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Not like about that episode.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Was that we got edged with this couple for over
a year. They finally finally got together and like a
week later.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
They're done pivoting to Cat and Chad, which yes, I think, yeah,
I think we all agree that it dragged out way
too long. But if they were going to end them,
this was like what.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Talk about taking the slow boat to the sofa?

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Man?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, what's slower than slow?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I don't I.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
So do we do we think that? First of I
want to say the the that like their breakup scene,
which funny saying breakup after they they were together three
to four days very well, especially Yeah, this is why
you this is why you pay for Handlin Becore and
you get someone like her. Do we think that Chad

(46:57):
made quote unquote the right decision regarding this because of
Thomas or do you think he overboard or do you
think he's overreacting by breaking up with him? For Thomas?

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Essentially, I understand why, but I don't agree with it
because that you you just because Thomas is poudy about something,
I think it would be more fruitful in the long
run to actually nurture him a little bit in this
situation and have him like, give him time to grow

(47:33):
to accept it, yeah, and not just be like, Okay,
my kid doesn't like it, I have to dump you,
because now you're basically letting the child and his feelings
control your life, which I don't think is a good,
good thing. Again, I understand it. No, I think he
should have No, don't give it to the child, exactly, Jen, thank.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
You, and and as and as as as more recent
history has shown us giving into a demara child does
not always prove to be the right choice.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Rachel and what's his face? Are gonna oh my god,
they're gonna terrorize that town?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yes, yes, let's speak yes. Okay, So let's be clear,
adults make the decisions about their relationships. Now, adults should
definitely take their children's feelings into consideration about their relationships.
But that's a big leap from letting your child decide
out and out how you're going to spend your love life.

(48:35):
And it's an even greater leap to let your in
laws dictate that as well. And there in lies the line.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
And now Jennifer and Julie are going to be like, yeah,
there's a lot of overstepping bounds here.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
I agree with Michael. I think that I think there's
a way to do this where you're also being sensitive
to what to this information your your child just found out,
which can be troubling. So I think, like, you address
that and you work with your child on that, but
you don't. It was it was too much of a
drastic reaction to me to be like, Thomas's pissed, he's

(49:15):
upset about it. It's not like this has been weeks
of them going back and forth. He literally had a
freak out over it or through a tantrum, which is fine,
like let him have that, but also does chilrum. Yeah.
This is also where Jennifer comes in and something I've
been saying. They've a messed Chad into the Whortons so

(49:39):
much that now she walks into the room and everyone
knows she should have stepped back from that situation. She
completely eclipsed him as the parent jumping to Thomas's side.
She should have been if she was gonna get involved,
it should have been, hey, what's going on here? Not
you're upsetting Thomas and look what you did. It was

(50:00):
way too accusatory, and it was way too of like, oh,
I got him on my side now, even even if
it was subconscious, I don't think she walked into the
room thinking that. But this is what happens when you
im mess yourself with your and sad to say former
in laws, in laws, they're not your in laws anymore.
Sad to say they are the grandparents of your children now, yeah, yeah,

(50:24):
I think who they are.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, and yeah, Chad at this point needs to He's
been very good about setting boundaries with his own family
and now he's gonna he's gonna have to do that
with Abby's family too, because this is a line in
the sand that he needs to he needs to step up. Look,
and when he first lest Abby, he needed help, he

(50:46):
needed support and raising the kids. He was a mess, obviously,
and he took support wherever he could get it. But
Chad has has He'll never be completely healed from losing Abby,
but he has grown, he matured, he has you know,
he runs, he runs the paper. He has. He has
managed to put himself back together and has managed to

(51:09):
help put his kids back together. And yes, he can
be grateful to Abby's family for their role in that,
but it's his life he's still here, he's still living,
so he's kind of set boundaries the same way that
he did with the De Mirror side of his family.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Yeah, and and the funny thing is he left the
De Mirror house because he didn't want to be involved
in their influence and their chaos and all of that stuff.
And it's like, I think it's time. As much as
we liked seeing the Horton house full and like seeing
Chad in the Julie relationship, it's got to the point
now he I believe he needs to move out. And

(51:45):
it in not in not in a cost a way.
It needs to be so like you said, setting the boundary,
Julie can still be as much part of the kids' lives.
They can go over to the Horton house, so she
can go over to his place like they it's he's
not for going to have his own life. If he's
living in that house, he is now subjected to everything

(52:05):
that they think and every I mean we saw with Julie.
They had that great conversation where I thought it went
really well, and then we had this week she's grilling
him about cat and where he was, and then she,
you know, Jennifer comes around and then it's like she's
reveling in it, you know, a bit, and it's like, okay,
you've it's time to move out now.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, I mean he can move across the street. It's
not like like if they're gonna make they're probably neverly
gonna make the argument, oh my god, you're uprooting the children.
You're gonna traumatize them, blah blah blah, because the're good,
you know that. The minute he says something like that,
they're gonna guilt him to it. She's like, he could
move across the street. Nobody's saying that he needs to
rip the kids out of, you know, a stable home
or anything like that. But boundaries need to be set.

(52:50):
He is a parent, they are not.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I also, there's got to be at least one house
in that neighborhood they have been showing, which is the
most realistic establishing, Yeah, showed users.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
I was like, Okay, this is actually the whole neighborhood. Yes,
I buy that. There's got to be at least one
house in that neighborhood that's for sale. And Chad, someone
said it was like Chad, Chad, get a house. You're
not poor.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Yeah, I did cringe when Thomas came and again this
is this is this is Thomas Demira kind of coming
into the play where he's like where Jennifer was explaining like, oh,
I moved in, you know with my grandparents. It wasn't
a good situation with my parents. And then Thomas little
ship pipes in with I want to live with what

(53:38):
you say? I want to live with you? Or can
I live with you? I forget how he worded it. Yeah,
like Jennifer, yeah, he said that. It was when she
like picked him up to hug him. It was like, oh,
I want to live with you or can he said,
can I live with? I want to? I forget? And
it's like Jennifer should have put a stopped again. I
know they were reminiscing about the that's how the conversation started,

(54:00):
but she should have milked that ship rate in the
butt to be like, oh, no, like, you know, you're
just secure with your dad, you know you love living
with him. It's I don't like the idea of now
chatting her on opposite sides and she's like using the
kids now that that is sort of making me cringe
a bit.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Yeah, one thing I want to mention another Star of
the week. Rachel Boyd was my first second one. Annelan McCord.
I felt those again. It was like I felt those
tears when during the whole breakup and afterward. So yeah, good, good,
good job, and good luck to her Friday at the Emmys.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Yeay.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Look, the only reason I think I'm okay with uh
Cat and Chad breaking up or taking a break. You know,
we don't know where this is going to go maybe maybe, yeah, yeah,
but I'm okay with this for right now because and
as all of this has been happening, the show has

(55:03):
done a very good job of setting up Kat as
an established character on the show, with you know, a backstory,
a career, her siblings. You know, she's got a lot
of other stuff going on. If we had to spend
all this time and we were still just on the
Cat and Chad train alone, then it would have been

(55:24):
such a disservice to her, It would have been a
disservice to them, potentially as a pairing. But she is
now established in other ways with her connections to other people,
you know, working with Rafe to take down EJ. So
there there's layers. There's much more to this character, and
I hope that one of those lairs that they now

(55:44):
embed based off of this week its content is that
I hope she takes a stand and says, I will
never stop being sorry for what I did, but I'm
now done apologizing for living my life.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah, I think she she can absolve herself of of
the guilt now. Yeah, but you made a really good point, Rsselly,
And I'm wondering if the reason that they were so
slow with pairing chat at chat Chat Chad and Cat
up was because they wanted to establish that character as

(56:23):
more than just Chad's love interest. Maybe that's why they
were so slow to do it. And then once they
just once they not decided, once they knew that, Okay,
we've established this character so far separate from Chad, now
we can have them get together. I wonder if that

(56:43):
was like intentional that they were kind of putting just
being very slow with like the relationship side of Cat
so they could develop more of the the other side.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Maybe maybe I will say the one thing I actually
the part of this storyline that I actually found myself
really enjoying, not because the subject matter, but the way
it was acted, was the Jennifer Kayla Steve conversation and.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
The pub Oh yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
So well done and so good. It was like it
was funny because I'm hearing I'm hearing the subject matter
of Kat versus you know, do we forgive her and
not forgive her? And I'm like rolling my eyes, like
we're doing this again. But like I was completely like
enthralled by that conversation just because by the way it
was acted that we had and this is where I
credit the new writers, because I felt like we would

(57:31):
have never in the past gotten a scene like that.
That was It was Kayla listening to Jennifer sort of
freak out and have this I don't won't say panic attack,
but she was getting riled up about it. And their
position was, let me tell you what my experience is.
I'm gonna validate your feelings but also be the friend
family member to tell you the truth here. And when

(57:53):
she got when they hinted about the Steve stuff, they
hinted about the Jack stuff, and then she flat out
was like Abigail was no saying either x y Z.
I was like, ooh, but it all makes sense and
it all worked because you could I feel like Kayla
is the only person who probably could have had that conversation,
maybe Kayla or Hope, maybe if it was around. But

(58:15):
very few people can sit down and have that conversation
with these three actors. And I thought it was a
perfect combination of them.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
It was such dynamic writing, It was such a dynamic
conversation that really encompassed that. I felt that conversation I
think did more justice to the history of Jennifer Horton
than anything else, because because it's okay to remind us
that these characters have flaws. We don't watch them because

(58:46):
they're perfect. We watch them because they stumble and fall,
they make mistakes, but they, you know, they grow into
these characters that we can't see, you know, we can't
see Salem without seeing them. And you know, but you
take the good with the bad. That's how it is. Yeah,

(59:07):
and it would be it would be It would just
be hoof Jennifer to be reminded of that once in
a while.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
But because also, I do not think that Kate could
have bitch shut up. Yeah. I understand that they're they're
you know, related in a way, but no, I don't
think Kate could have been Ursel is absolutely right. Kayla
or Hope would probably be the ones the proper relationship

(59:43):
to be the one to be able to say that
to Jennifer.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Yeah. Yeah. And also, like we said, like not to
not backpedaling, but if Jennifer wants to dislike Cat, she
can also have that right too. It's really embarking that
on other people, whether it's Tomas or like telling Chad
or like there was like a I even think the
conversation she had with Julie this week where she said, like, oh,

(01:00:08):
do you know about him and Kat and Julie said yes,
and then she said something like it's such a Oh.
I thought she was going to say, oh, I'm so disappointed,
but no, she said it's such a betrayal, which is
like such a different, different like feeling to take in
it that she's used the word betrayal. And that's why
I'm always like, Okay, see now she like not has

(01:00:28):
ownership over Chad, but this thing, You're like, Okay, I
have a say in this. He's doing this to us,
and it's like it really has nothing to do with you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's and that's that's the whole point
that Kayla and Steve were trying to make, which was
like you your your anger is taking over your life
and you're letting it take over other people's lives.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Last thing I want to say about this storyline is
that when folks come from of town into Salem and
say they came from the airport, all she had was
a purse.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Carry on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
And I understand, and I'm not just saying this about Jennifer.
It's a common where people come into town and we
don't see them, Like it would be great like to
see people come into town like wheel in a suitcase
through Hortontown Square and being like I'm back Salem, but
we don't get that anymore. Yeah, And I'm just like,
and I understand with Jennifer's case, she probably has ship
at the house already and she doesn't need it has

(01:01:33):
three months yeah yeah, But but just in general, it
was just a little touch like that when you have
characters return, Like I feel like when we get a
character return now, it's like they've already been there for
a couple of days and we just haven't seen them
they like, you know, they're all immersed in Salem already,
But unless they're actually at the airport, like when we

(01:01:54):
got the the Gwen Teresa switch, you know, just to comment,
just to comment.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Yeah. No. It's also fody to think of that last
week when it was like, oh, Jennifer is going to
conduct these interviews about Tom Horton, and it was like, oh,
that's a nice, nice thing to do, bring her into it.
And then it was like she's talked to people she
would probably regularly talk to on the phone, like you
know what I mean, like like why come in?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I don't know, you could have just video. This could
have been an over sketchy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Like she's like, oh, I got to interview Julie. I
was like, okay, probably talk to Julie, you know, five
times a week on the phone, like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Five times daily. Julie is that busybody that like you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Know everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Anyway, yeah, yes, anyways, Uh, happy fortieth to Jennifer, to
Jennifer with his character, Jennifer Harton to Muslim Reeves. I
hope more positive things are in the future. Yes, And
our final top storyline of the week was rebuilding Titan.

(01:03:04):
This is the Curiocus Boys and Maggie versus Tony mm hmmm. Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
I was surprised about this one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
I thought, I'm trying to remember what all I know
there was the other than the scene in the Demyror
mansion with Maggie and the three the three gents where
they they were like all right, we're basically basically they're like,
we'll just undo undo the merger you take, we take Tight,

(01:03:36):
we all go live our happy lives. And then what's
his face being like, well you're taking back Tight and
blah blah, and they're like, we don't give up. Fuck,
you know, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Yeah, that's the part that surprised me because they previously
they made it seem like Tony very much wanted Tightened
two so that he was going to get to Mirror
and then go after Titan. So the fact that it
was just like you can have to era, you know,
back sies. I guess like we'll just we'll take our company,
you take yours. And it was like Tony didn't put
up a fight. It was like, okay, you know you're

(01:04:10):
or I think the idea was he was like your
companies and shambles, I'll sweep in later and take it
anyway from you at probably like a reduced pricelet He's
he's sort of been Yeah, I mean, kind of anti climactic.
I guess they're they're essentially back to square one. I mean,
I think it's the one thing we got in the

(01:04:31):
Xander and Philip seemed to officially be a mesh now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
And that's yeah. I mean, I think if that's so
far and away where maybe some of us thought this
was going to end up, because we thought we saw
the sparks of it in the beginning when Philip first
came back to town. But now it's now at least amongst
those two, everything's out in the open, you know, So

(01:04:58):
for them to really solidify that partnership, I mean, it's
sad to say, but Victor, Victor being gone at this
point is kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah, look, yeah, yeah,
I'll see it this way. Victor, for for all the

(01:05:22):
love we had for Victor, he did not do any
good for these for these young men because he constantly
hutted them against each other. Yeah, we're with his children,
with his grandchildren. You know, it was just toxic the
expectations that he put on them and then and then
they were they were constantly feeling that we're unable to
deliver on the legacy that he wanted for them. Now

(01:05:45):
it seems like they are gearing more towards a more
positive light where we can honor Victor's legacy, but we
can also honor our bond and what we how we
choose to move forward with it is our choice.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Yeah, yeah, good, No, I was just gonna say, I
still love that they they brought Maggie into the fold,
and they're keeping Maggie into the fold, and she was
almost like when they came I got the feeling like
she was almost leading the charge, even though like it's
been Xander and and and Philip. I feel like now

(01:06:23):
that she she came in and she was kind of
like almost running running things. I I appreciate that they're
kind of giving Maggie like some power now and something
to do other than cook fucking lemon bars. So you know,
I appreciated that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Yeah, I'm getting a sense this is going to be
the beginning of demir versus curiofus, whatever that looks like
in the future. It seems like we're getting Xander fill
up Maggie now coming back to help out full time.
I guess we'll see if Brady is still there. We
know Alex is there, and it seems like on the
demur side, now that he has Demira, I'm guessing that

(01:07:04):
includes Gabby's back. Then we have the Theo situation, which
we're still sorting out. So it looks like that is
going to be the nuclear maybe Demurra family, we'll see.
I don't know as business wise versus the Curiocus, i'm
i'm I I kind of like that matchup, but like you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Know, oh, yeah, it's it's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Of versus Tony. THEO in in Gabby should be interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Yeah, I mean it's it's uh, there's definitely some rebuilding
to be had on both sides. While Demera might be
more financially solvent, Titan it has the has the more
core family dynamics in place, So it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
The question, Yeah, who who who has the Versifix now,
the thing that started this whole thing? Who has EJ
has it?

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Yeah? Has it with the hospital?

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Not in the hospital, neither Titan nor Dema Enterprise.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
No, okay, it was really versus Titan not yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Yeah, but but it was made clear that it was
made clear and Rafe did Ray found this out in
his investigations that the money that e J used to
that's why at the hospital. Yeah, yes, that's what that's
why that investigation started, was because they they investigated whether
DeMar assets had been put into play by the hospital
and they did not. They just don't know what They

(01:08:33):
don't know where the money came from at this point,
where we we the audience know it came from.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Gwen, Right, Okay, thank you for that reminder. R.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
S L E. That was and Justine, that was very
I just want to thought.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
I was like, wait, this all started over that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
So basically Gwen and e J owned versus theoretically that
they Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
So maybe that's going to come into play again somehow
where you know, like Mirror or Titan decides to try
to partner.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Or or EJ tries to part you know, that could
be a partnership with that sense.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Yeah, yeah, there's still a lot that could be explored
with it. I don't think this is going to be
the end of anything. There's so many there's like you
were talking about Gabby and THEO EJ in the hospital,
So still a lot more potential with this so far.
I'm like, I feel like this is the most the
what am I trying to say in terms of like

(01:09:30):
the Demyra enterprises or Titan storylines that they've done. I
think this is the one I'm mostly into because it's
it's not it's not just EJ and Stephan like having
a pissing contest maybe, or like, it's not Philip.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
And Xander having a piss yeah fighting or Sunny sometimes
or yeah, or Maggie or Alex.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
It's not just watching the families in fight with each other.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Yeah, yeah, m hmm yeah cool.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Yeah. And then briefly Sarah, which was Sarah. I believe
she had the line of the week, and I would
I would both Xander and Philip to follow her advice
when she said knock them dead, just not literally.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Yeah, I won't. I'm curious.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
I'm curious if that was like, if that was an
or if her line was scripted, but the kind of
off you we could probably ask Paul and he'll tell us. Great,
that was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yeah, yes, And those were your top storylines of the week.
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and he covers all of the remaining daytime soaps. Yes,
and now onto our tidbits, where we have ooh, the
return of returns that we saw at the end of
last week, looking for a second chance. Here comes Jeremy
Horton played this time played by the lovely Michael Work.

(01:12:15):
We we've heard nothing. Let's let's be clear, We've heard
nothing but nice things about Michael Work. I believe I
saw an interview with Abigail Klein at the sixty at
the sixtieth celebration for that the Days of Our Lives
had for the Broadway now the Broadcast Hall of Fame,

(01:12:36):
and she did mention Michael work and working with him,
and that that he is, that he is lovely and
she feels very uh, you know, trusted and safe with
the material with him. So this is the but this
is a new Jeremy Horton that we're seeing, or is it?

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Or is it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Yeah, I guess the question. I mean, as of now,
we can only as of now, we can only take
what we're getting. We can only take what we're getting
is face at face value. For Stephanie, it's a little different.
She can't take She's always going to have it in
her mind that he's he's probably not performed, he's probably

(01:13:17):
you know, get over that. Trauma is not going to
be easy for her. And you know, they've they've established
her and Alex very well. And you know, we were
talking about last week the scenes with Stephanie and Alex
just kind of solidified them as as a couple. So
she has she has protection, she's got some muscle, and

(01:13:38):
I think I think Alex could take him if he
needed to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Absolutely, And I think somebody in the comments mentioned yeah,
I think somebody in the comments mentioned that Alex may
be jealous. I don't think Jelousey has anything to do
with it. Their very so yeah, No, it's their their
Their relationship is secure, and it has nothing to do
with him being an exit has to do with the
fact that he was abusive. That's anger and anything.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Alex is going to be in protective mode, not just yes.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Yeah, I liked what we saw. I liked what was
presented to us in terms of Jeremy Horton. If we're
taking him at face value, now, he seems to mature,
seems like he acknowledges his mistakes. I think he did
the right thing by coming, apologizing, sort of telling or

(01:14:27):
making Stephanie aware of how much he's changed and his
life's change and all that kind of stuff. It sort
of remains to be seen. I don't know about that
asking for a second chance. I didn't really understand that.
Was he saying just second chance, because second chance to
be cordial with each other, or was he like trying
to imply them getting back. I know it was really weird.

(01:14:49):
I didn't sort of understand that at the end. It
was sort of tacked in at the end. I was like, wait,
what is he actually asking her for.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
I guess I took I took that as a second
chance to just see him in a different like not
necessarily not necessarily second chance to be like Booze again.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Okay, Yeah, I was kind of confused by that, But no,
I guess that makes sense, just because again there Salem
is so damn small. They're probably gonna run into each
other five times a week.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
So yeah, and now with him being Thomas and Rachel's teacher,
that's another layer, and that was addressed. We did bring
up the point last week that you're you're really not
supposed to be a teacher if you have a criminal
record like his. That was explained in his explanation to
Stephanie that he worked he worked out a deal and
he did some kind of work with the authorities that

(01:15:39):
I guess expunged his record.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Yeah, he got that, he got that, he got he
got that Kristen Demira immunity.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Uh so.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
See if I'm curious though, because they could again we
talked about they can go either way. They're also like
it's been what ten years since we've seen Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
It's been almost twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Yeah, no, twenty years. No, Oh, it's okay, maybe, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
It's like, okay, so yeah, they can go with that
he's a villain and he's just playing her, or they
can go with he's a completely different person but the
past haunts him, like I don't, Yeah, there's there's different
ways to go. It's been so long that you could
also see him as a completely different character now, not

(01:16:33):
just because he's played by a different actor, but you know,
he's he's what mid thirties to almost forty now, like
you know, kind of going around screaming at him about
things he did when he was twenty four. I don't
know how well that's gonna land. I also think there's
there's like the mystery now of people finding out Stephanie's

(01:16:54):
side of the story. Julie doesn't know, Jennifer doesn't really,
no one knows outside of Kayla and Steve, and they
only have a portion of it. I feel like that's
still on canvas now. Is Alex and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Even and even he'd and and truly no, truly the
only person who knows is Stephanie, because she very she
did not give Alex details. She told him he was abusive,
but then he never laid a hand on her. And
that was as much as she told him, which is

(01:17:28):
basically as much as that's as much as Kayla and
Steve know the extent to how long the abuse went.
As I said last week, the only person other than
Stephanie who she might have confided in might have been
might have been Chelsea Brady, and she's not and she's

(01:17:50):
not here. So so there's a lot to unpact. There's
a lot to uncover, and this is very much, Uh,
this is very much gonna be a time will tell situation.
And uh, the one thing I will say is Steve
made the right call in asking Rafe to help her

(01:18:12):
run a background check. Yep, because Steve, I think and
and and we've we've said, you know, things have been
in the past about maybe Steve meddling a little too
much in Stephanie's love life. But this is where he
is one in the right, where he's not he's not
interfering in her life. He's not you know, gonna say,

(01:18:34):
you know, you stay away from my daughter type of
a thing. He's he's going in forewarned, is forearmed?

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Yeah, this one is more of an actual safety issue
that Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Yes, yes, exactly, mm hmm. Yeah, Like Mike, my child
can take care of herself. She's in a stable relationship
with a guy who who clearly loves her and can
look after her. But I need to know if she's
actually in danger.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm excited about Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
And another big reckoning from the past this week was
the continuation of the JJ and THEO kind of not flashback,
but very much a jarring experience that they had last
week during the blackout that led JJ to consider turning

(01:19:27):
in his badge to Jada. What do we think about
their conversation starting there?

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
I loved it. I thought it was fair like. I
like that Jada was in support of him but also
looked at it objectively and offered to give him some
time and counseling and stuff. I like JJ at least
thinking about it. We'll see how far it goes. But
I like that THEO at least stirred up some things.

(01:19:58):
And like we've said, we've we're sort of iffy about
how this plotline is going to play out. Now, we're
sort of revisiting it, and again the stuff with theo's
history recent history with JJ, We're like, Okay, how much
of that is being like handwaved retcon. But I think
they're addressing it now in an interesting way, and I
think whatever valid points THEO has, I at least I

(01:20:22):
appreciate that JJ is at least attempting to think about them,
because I think originally we were like, oh wow, this
is still affecting him, and he's always been cool with JJ,
they were business partners. But I think getting theo's side
the last couple of weeks, we may not fully agree
with him, but we get him a little bit better.
And so I think JJ is at least taking that seriously,

(01:20:44):
which I appreciate whether or not he decides that he
doesn't want to be a cop or or he's good
as a cop or whatever, but I like that he
at least took it seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Yeah, I appreciate that they're not and they're not trying
to like on AJ side of things. They're not trying
to like excuse it in a way you know, the
event they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
They're not trying to be like, oh, you didn't you
know it wasn't you know, excusing it or giving him
a pass there, you know, and seeing that JJ, you know,
Jada was supportive of him, and they went through it
wasn't just blind support. She went through like point did
you do this? Did you did you talk to anyone else?
Did you talk to them in the same manner you

(01:21:27):
talk to him? And she was like, well, it sounds
to me like you did everything by the book, so
you know. But then she gave him the you know,
take some time off, go to that. We'll get you,
you know, some therapy. And so I like the fact that,
you know, it's being it's not just being excused, it's
being addressed in a proper manner. And and I love,

(01:21:48):
you know, I love that we got you know, one
thing else I'd like, I'm tired of seeing Jada in
that office, like they seem to have like vision holder
as commissioner, like only in her office, like get her out.
But I do like that she's kind of commanding the power,
you know, and is reasonable. Oh yeah, So yeah, I

(01:22:09):
appreciate how this is being handled, and it seems like
it's being handled with proper sensitivity so to not you know,
as to not discount someone's feelings over someone else's. They're
kind of showing both sides of it, and yeah, I
think it's being addressed in a good manner.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Yeah, and I hope that they follow through and then
we get to see some of the Maybe we don't
necessarily need to see the therapy sessions, but I think
that we need to touch on the fact that the
THEO was the victim and that original incident, JJ suffered
greatly because of it, and would it would be very

(01:22:52):
good for him to have continued therapy, especially as he
if he continues to stay active on the force, because
though JJ, I do believe JJ when he says he
is a doubly careful and explicit and clear when he's

(01:23:13):
on the job. However, what they alluded to without really
touching into it too deeply this week, but they did
allude to the fact that, you know, because JJ jumped
right to turning in his badge. JJ has always been
a character that is harder on himself than any other
people can be because he has met I mean, JJ

(01:23:38):
has messed up a lot, but he's also grown a lot,
and when he's made a mistake, he has taken it
to the extreme. After Let's remember that after he shot THEO,
he tried to commit suicide. Yeah he was, Yeah, yeah,
they remind us he was. He was absolutely destroyed over this.

(01:24:02):
And if it had THEODI, I don't think he would
have recovered. So, yes, just just just the mention of it,
just the the little the moment that they had during
the blackout and all, and he automatically says I'm done,
I'm turning in my badge. And you know, it took
Jada to say stop, take a step back and walk

(01:24:23):
me through everything that's going on, everything that's going in
your head. Because if you're gonna do, if you're going
to if that's the process that you have on the job,
as that you're supposed to have, then that's also the
process that you need to have just as you live
your life. You can't be making impulsive decisions, even if

(01:24:43):
it's for what you think is the better of someone else,
without really thinking it through.

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
Also, like the nuance of it too, of like even
though he sat down with Jada and they went through
everything and he technically did every everything right, we saw
when they sort of recreated that scene with them recently
with the blackout, that there's also change that should still
be made because THEO again is still autistic. He still

(01:25:14):
is going to react that way. Again, JJ didn't draw
his gun like he did. You know, it wasn't as
tense of a situation as the first time. But it's
also a thing of JJ. You could tell. JJ also
didn't immediately stop and say, you know, did it go

(01:25:34):
through JJ's head? This person may have a disability, this
person there must be there might be other things going
on here. And I think that's the lesson to learn
from the original one, where we're seeing like society may
not have caught up there because like she's saying, did
you do everything right? And he technically did everything right.
The only difference is with this one is he didn't

(01:25:54):
draw his gun. Yeah, but it also wasn't a friendly
interaction like it could you know me like it should
have been. Like so, I think there's there's also room
to like just make commentary on the procedures that we
have that technically, if you do everything right, you know,
these things aren't up to up to pars. Maybe they
should be, and maybe we should look at things a

(01:26:16):
little bit differently. For yeah, for the world that we're in, you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Know, Yeah, and that and I think and that's an
ongoing conversation where it could it could be JJ and
THEO sitting down and having that conversation. Would I think
be better. It would be better for everyone involved, for
the show, for the department, for them as as friends.

(01:26:41):
You know, those are things that you can have, those
active conversations, and we'd love to see them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Yeah, And that's one thing this new writing regime is
not shying away from.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
No yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
And then but luckily for THEO, he has a lot
of his mind and luckily we got a potential new romance.
Uh which uh the which is the new actor? Tyler
did say that he hinted, he hinted. He didn't say,
I don't want to impired. He hinted that this was coming,
that JJ could be potentially getting a new romance. And

(01:27:21):
it's with Ari.

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
Do you like it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
I don't have a strong opinion one way or another.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Yet I did.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
I liked their their interaction and I thought that, you know,
they were cute together, but the the you know, love
interest or not. I'm I'm kind of uh, you know,
I don't have a strong opinion one way.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yeah, I mean they they just they just met. They
they don't know each other's last names. They have you know,
they had they had a cup of coffee together. It's
a it was a it was a classic meet cute,
which actually was like it's it's kind of nice to see.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
That part I liked. I like the actors. I think
there is chemistry. I gotta be honest. I'm a little
weird at all. Weirded. She's freshly eighteen, he is not.
I also think with this iteration, it seems like they're
moving THEO, like we've been saying, into a more mature

(01:28:30):
sort of stable thing. So technically, I mean, yes, she's legal.
I just don't know of the pairing in terms of
age wise, if it makes sense to me also character wise,
if that's where they're going with a romantic pairing, just
on face value of that. Also with this idea there,
if we're supposed to look at THEO as a bit

(01:28:50):
older now and more mature, if he's going to be
a CEO or a you know, established executive, it's a
little young for me. Even though I think the actors
have chemistry and they're both good actors, so they'll they'll
make it work. But I don't know, It's just something
about it didn't rub me, like it wasn't as excited

(01:29:11):
as I would have been. Maybe if if their ages
were more compatible.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Yeah, I think I yeah, I think you got I
think you got hung up on that. But because we
know we know the characters of THEO and Ari separately.
But let me make a case for why I think
this parent could work very well. Because, yes, THEO, THEO
is coming back more mature, he's coming back more established

(01:29:37):
in kind of getting his footing on his own. But
THEO has also been a character who is, sad to say,
kind of been for not for himself, but for all
of the other characters on the canvas frozen in time. Uh,
there are a lot of the other characters. Look look

(01:30:00):
at him as Abe and Lexi's kid, look at him
as you know, as that the kid they watched grow up,
as you know, the you know, the the the little
darling kid, all of these things that he is not anymore.
He's had a life separate and he it's up to

(01:30:22):
him to figure out what that is. That being said,
he does lean more on the younger side in terms
of his thinking, not in terms of the the way
that people perceive him, but in terms of he's a
very straight shooter, and I think you saw that in
that conversation with lady. And that was what appealed to

(01:30:42):
her about him, was that I could see I could
see it in her eyes as she was as he
was talking, just like being upfront, like, oh, I just
I don't really like the coffee, and he's like, well,
you can, you can tell me that I didn't make
it that kind of a thing where it's like she
she's looking for more maturity in a guy. And that's

(01:31:04):
that was what the thing with with the that that
all that nonsense with Doug the third where you know,
she's flat out total and it's like, you could have
just told me that you were interested in somebody else.
You didn't have to play all these games. And that's
and that's who Ari is. That's the point that we've
been establishing her as a character these last few months,

(01:31:25):
is that she is not a character who likes games.
She has been stuck in the middle of this stupid
Holly and Take stuff and rolling her eyes and wondering
how she got stuck in the middle when she was
just trying to be a good friend she's over the games.
It's not what she wants in her life. And here
comes along a very nice, mature young man. Yes he's

(01:31:46):
a little bit older in age, but he also is
not a character who likes games. He's a straight shooter,
he's very honest. So it's while the age thing in
the history might not be equitable, the things that they
are looking for right now in a potential relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Are Okay, Yeah, we'll see how it progressed.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
Yeah, I'm just kind of I'm like, all right, they
were cute.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Yeah, yeah, i mean it's look, how many how often
do we get like a simple meat cute? It doesn't
always have.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
To be intro to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
It doesn't always have to be oh you're related to
this person, Oh I know that person? Oh that was
that was my mom. And yeah, it could just be Hi,
I'm allri, Hi, I'm THEO. Nice to meet you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
Mhm.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
All right, and that was your week of days. So
we are going to be moving on to our segment.
Tony is not here, so we will not have three
snaps this week, so we we'll start with Michael Madis's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
This week's caption. That photo comes courtesy of Kayla Marybeth
Evans with her bitch what kind of look? Okay, We's
caption goes to Caroline May. Caroline May on Instagram with
her captions. It just made me giggle. This shirt was
painted by inmates of Baby.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
I think Caroline's in the chat too. Oh it was
Caroline in the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
I'm so sorry, like you like you they I can't
even I'm dumb and I'm from Ohio. I can't pronounce that.
I'm sorry, Caroline May. Thank you for your caption. I
have made me chuckle. And because it took me, I
was like the shirt. Then I looked at the shirt
and I was like, that's good.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
Like it? I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Yeah, And next up we have. That was that was
and that was sorry tention and next up we have.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
All Right, everyone, I'm taking you back. Oops, where's my
taking you back? To October seventh, nineteen ninety four, when
Celeste drugged Gina, who had another Hope memory, convincing Bo
that she was in fact Hope. You guys remember this
we' this is uh Gina, not Princess Gina. This is

(01:34:34):
Gina before Hope, which if we always have always have
to establish because Kriystal Fondo has played like five different
characters on the show, and I think people bunch them
together sometimes during this old Princess Gina saga. But this
is in fact Christal Fonso as Gina before she was
revealed to actually be Hope. And I did a those
were days extended on the Switch you can check out

(01:34:56):
right after the show, and I kind of did it
on specifically the relationioush between Celeste and Gina slash Hope.
It was so interesting. I think it it sort of
helped us usher in Celeste as a much more viable character.
Before that, she was like Stephano's not hetchean but sort
of confidant, number one person kind of a thing. And
it's this storyline that helped sort of bring her to

(01:35:18):
the forefront and and her and Christoph Fonso really did
a lot of really great work during these years where
she was trying to figure out who she was, and
so I kind of want to shout that out. Unfortunately
it was annoying because I there's there's this is like,
you know, the Princess Gene storyline is like a seven
year storyline that happened on days and I it took

(01:35:39):
me forever to find pictures with them. There's no you know,
sometimes I get publicity votes, there's none of them two together.
And I just wanted something with like Christoph Fonzo and
Tanya Boyd. It was so hard to find, but but yeah,
go check out those are the days extended. But that
was October seventh, nineteen ninety four, when Celeste drugged Gina.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
That was the little diary and she would like recite
I remember that. I remember my mom watching being like,
what is going on?

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
Yeah, like one of the great Umbrella storylines of the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
That took years on and on.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
They would not let that horse die anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
That's so many different facets and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
That was And now it's time for It's a Game.
This week's It's a Gift And I'm going to steal
this from one of our This line from one of
our audience members. I don't know who it was. You

(01:36:45):
could shout out it if it was if it was you,
But this was Sarah doing her best impression of a
black mom, a black antie, of a black auntie this
week with this move.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
I can't remember who it was.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
I saw it in the chat too. It's like Sarah
Sarah brought out the black anti into.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Accurate, very accurate description. Thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Aunties in general, though, they can be.

Speaker 5 (01:37:21):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, although I have to I have
to be in a mood, I have to be real
mood to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
I will say it's been rare.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
So it happens.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
It's rare, but it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
It happens. Yeah, it does happen, not often though, thankfully.
So that was.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
It's a game. God.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Imagine being on the other end of a Rselly tirade.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Actually, I feel like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Now when da I'm gonna introduce you to my nieces,
I'm gonna I'm gonna ask because now I'm actually genuinely curious,
what was the one time because I think I know
what it is? What was the one time that you
were actually like afraid of me? And I think I
know what it was? No, my niece, Yeah, yeah, because

(01:38:19):
that because it's like because they know, it's like there's
there's a lecture and there's like I'm pissed.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
All right, and that was It's a gift. And now
we move on to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
News and gossip.

Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
All right. Starting off with some casting news, you've probably
heard by now that Greg Vaughan has been cast and
Beyond the Gates. A rep for the show has confirmed
that Greg has joined the soap for the new season.
I previously, of course, worked with creator, showrunner, head writer
Michelle Belgeane on g H and then Greg has also
now commented that this is a new character for him.

(01:39:04):
It's a brand new adventure in one that he is very,
very excited about. So big congrats to to Greg Bond
here Beyond the Gates.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Yeah, yeah, and his go check out his his Instagram
that he did like a full two plus minutes a
couple of minutes explanation on that, and I thought it
was so eloquent and really showed why he's just going
to make such a great addition to that show. Yeah,

(01:39:35):
like he's excited, We're excited. It's all good. And if
you were also paying attention, in this past week, Paul
Telford and Dan Fiergel participated in the Blue Jacket Fashion
Show once again. This is an annual fashion show benefiting
prostate cancer awareness. I believe that they participated in the

(01:39:55):
last couple of years together as well, So go check
out the I believe they have a video up on
the Days of Our Lives social media as well showing
it and it was it was such a cute event.
I really liked it. Yeah, so it benefits prostate cancer
to go check that out. And next up, Deirdre Hall
is the latest cast member to take a walk down

(01:40:17):
Memory Lane to reminisce about her tenures Marlena, particularly when
she started during the seventies and eighties. This is very
poignant and very especially to her because she discusses working
with her departed co stars now Wayne Northrop and Drake Hoguston,

(01:40:39):
who both passed in the last year, and she is,
you know, still still there and still still taking names,
and you know she's there to tell all the stories,
and we are here to hear all of them. So
thank you, Dedra for honoring those decades on Days of
Our Lives.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
Yeah, and mixed up for events, we have a new one,
this one from Starstruck Fan Events. They have added a
Misery Loves Company after party event and this is the
Misery play that we told you about that starring Julie
Dove and John Ferris, who is sure Yamanez's husband if
you're not familiar with Sean, but they are doing Starstruck

(01:41:21):
is hosting a after party for the Sunday, February fifteenth,
Mattin a show and more information to come. I actually
think they may have put up something while we were
on the show, because I think someone liars. Yeah, I
couldn't get to it fast enough. But go check out
at Starstruck Fan they'll have the information up there and

(01:41:41):
information to come. But yeah, if you happen to be
in LA and we're going to check out these misery
plays startling Julie Dove and Sean Ferris, you can Yeah,
maybe you might want to hang out for the after
party and go to that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
So yeah, yees Okay, So they posted a cast list.
Now it's going to be Julie Dove, Sean fair, Haultel
for Lindsay Godfree, Ken Remington Hoffman, and Adam Huss who
is the most play Nicholas General Hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
So oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
H two point fifty for a VIP ticket, VIP sponsors
five hund Starstruck Fan Events dot com for for more
for more info, an exact location is not oh tickets unsalable,
unsaleable ticket say tomorrow at noon February fifteenth, twenty twenty six.

(01:42:38):
Limited seats available. Yeah, Starstruckfan Events dot com. An exact
location is not available, but it's going to be, you know,
somewhere here in La La Land.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
Yeah. And also, the tickets for Misery go on sale
tomorrow the thirteenth for thirty five bucks and you can
get those at Misery play La dot com. Nice. That's
interesting in there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Yes, yeah, I think that this is going to be
such a fun play. We've already seen Julie. She's got
the Misery in her. I think we made several allusions
to that movie during her time on the show, So
she's got this.

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
And that was.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
News and gossip.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
And before we leave you, let's take a look at
the promo for this week's coming episodes of Days of
Our Lives.

Speaker 4 (01:43:40):
And do I make sure that Kat and my dad
stay broken up?

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
That's easy as long as Cat's and Salem, I won't
be Goodbye Sam.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
Holly, Holly, the baby is not mine?

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
Should she? Some kid on that plane knowles, Stephanie Johnson's boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
Stay Dell a boyfriend her. I'll be marching at Demurro Enterprises.
You most certainly will not.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
I'm happy with the cleaning progress once construction is complete.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
This lad will be impenetrable. Hmmm, that was related.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
We just hired a yeah, so uh, we will try
to touch on all of those things when we come back,
but as we said, we will not. Yeah, we will
not be here next week. Why it was your fingers,
I don't know you made emotions, balloons just appear.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
I forgot where this happened before.

Speaker 4 (01:44:46):
I forgot.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Two weeks, is what I was trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Yes, okay, one two weeks left till a new show,
So we will not see you next week on Edition Days.
We will see you the following week, so that will
be October twenty six. October twenty six, we will be
back with a brand new episode of Edition Days. Until then,

(01:45:14):
make sure to follow all of us on our social
media channels. Michael Manas where can the folks find you?

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
You can find me on Instagram and x at mL
Mattis and at mL images La.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Yes, Justine Harold, where can the folks find You?

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Find me on Instagram at Justin Lerold.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
And you can find me on Instagram and Twitter at
TIA three two three rsli And you can find Tony
everywhere at Lounge and with Tony and make sure to
follow us on all of our social media's, particularly this
coming week It's Emmy's week. Guys, exciting we are. Edition
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(01:45:54):
on Twitter and threads. Thank you so much everyone for
following us and for enjoying our time together today. We'll
be back again two.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Weeks and good luck to all of Daze's nominees at
the Emmys on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Yes, we're so excited. It's gonna be such a fun time.
Let us know doesn't want to do it, Okay, okay, yes,
so we're gonna have a fun time. We'll let you know.
Please everybody watch support. Thank you guys so much for
joining us. Until next time, Bye bye,

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