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July 28, 2025 136 mins
July 27, 2025

Join hosts Tony Moore, Michael Mattes, Justin Hareld, and Araceli Aviles, as they recap episodes of Days of Our Lives from the week of July 21-25, 2025.

This week on Dishin’ Days, Rachel Boyd (Sophia Choi) makes her debut on our show to discuss how she tapped into her character’s recently heavy emotional arc. Later in the show, Chanel reaches out to a familiar face for help, Doug III says goodbye to Salem, and Tony and EJ make some interesting business moves.

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is it? Yay?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You said you didn't make an old joke, did you?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I didn't. I actually skipped the old joke. You know,
nothing new today, so but we'll move it on. What
do we think about this week's episodes of Days? Good week?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was a pretty good week.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, I was not fully entertained until like Friday. One
storyline that kept me going through the week and then
everything happened on Friday. I was like, what everything happened
one day?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, it definitely picked up the back half of the
week versus the front half of the week.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
We were there.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know some we know it all too well.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Something started, some things ended, some things are still going
and pending.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I had a revelation in my mind this week about
something okay about one of the stories and who who
did what to someone else? And I was like, oh,
I was kind of disappointed. If that is in fact
where they go, I'll be a little disappointed.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
But on which storyline? E j uh? Okay, Well, we'll
get there and we'll talk about it. But in the meantime,
let's go to our favorite part of the show, well,
one of our favorite parts of the show, well, the
funniest part of the show where we try to do
this together. Shall we? Let's break it on down, everybody.

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It is now time to start.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Aren't we supposed to flip it?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I mean yeah, but the flipping happens off camera? Do
you want me to? And all this time she's never
asked this question. I love it.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
You know, off camera.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
It always it always counts when it's off camera. All right, y'all,
let's kick things off with our top storyline, which is
baby Girl and by baby Girl Black that is the
last name of baby And to shed more light on
this storyline, we have with us the one the only,

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Miss Sophia Toy. She is Miss making her Dish Day's debut.
Rachel Boy Yay, all right, Rachel, welcome to our fun, shady,

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lovable show that we call Dish Days. Thank you so.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Of course. Okay, first of all, before we get into anything,
we have to give you all the problems, all the
kudos because you have been doing amazing with this storyline.
We we've talked about it on the show, just how
we don't know where you pull it from. We don't

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know as an actress, where you're getting the emotions and
things from. But you have taken us on such an
amazing journey with Sophia, and especially with the birth of
the baby, the adoption of the baby, the fake pregnancy
of it all like it has just kudos to kudos

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to you, kudos amazing. We said, you need to pin
the past few weeks episodes so that you can submit
this to the Daytime Emmys for next year so that
we can get you nominated as Emerging Talent.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
And also review the reel before they send it in.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Hard learned lessons?

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Is that shady? Is that the shady part of the show.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
There's more to come? I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Thank you guys so much. That's that's that's really sweet
of you to say.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
I I have kudos to the writers, and yeah, the
fans and the cast and the crew and just everyone
making the whole environment so welcoming and friendly for me
to be able to explore being so open emotionally and
and all of those things. So it's really been a
testament to the whole community and everything.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yes, and you also got kudos from my mother who
watches the show as well. Oh gosh, Rachel, you are
killing it. Love it.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Oh, thank you to your mother.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Also, our chat is like, honestly, we have guests on
all the time, and I feel like this is the
first time our chat is literally been like, get to Rachel,
bring her on? Where is she?

Speaker 6 (08:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
That is very wow seeing you. Yeah, there's a lot.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Of capitalization and exclamation points going on here.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
It guys.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I'm feeling glad. So let's let's start at the beginning
of this journey, because when we were first introduced to Sofia,
someone else was playing Sophia. When you came a part
of it, was there, was there any worry or were

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you nervous about like taking over a role even though
like Sofia was was kind of there, but we were
just getting to like the beginnings of what we're in now.
But yeah, did you have any concern or worry on
on you know, jumping into the role and what the
fans would think. What were your thoughts in the very beginning,

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Oh my.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Gosh, Well, the whole process of me like getting this
role and coming out.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
I'm Canadian and I live in.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Toronto, and I had auditioned for the role initially when
they were initially casting for it, and I did a
callback for it and I didn't get the.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Role, which is okay.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
And then it was like nine months later that I
got the call that they were recasting it and that
they had remembered me and wanted me to come out.
So it was a big like lots of changes all
at once. I was going to move countries, I was
going to be it was my first time doing like
a series regular role on a show, and when I
had initially auditioned for it, it was just a scene

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between Holly and Sophia talking about Tate, you know, and
I remember that she had said she was like a
ballerina at that time.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
I don't know if they.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Ever did anything with that, but maybe I had no
idea what was going on in the storyline because they're
so secretive about it.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
So I went and started doing like.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Dance classes because I was like, am I gonna have
to dance on the show?

Speaker 5 (10:45):
But then I found out.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
I think it was a couple of weeks before I
was coming out. The casting director called me and she
said that I was going to come on the show
fourteen weeks pregnant. And I had no idea, yeah, like
anything that because we filmed so far in advance, right,
so I hadn't even actually seen anything that Madeline had
had done with the character on the show, and so

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it was a lot of filling in blanks for me.
I remember I reached out to to Leo Howard and
he and I did a FaceTime where he tried to
catch me up a little bit. But yeah, yeah, I
hadn't I hadn't even really seen anything that she had
done with the character before I started filming.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
I think I saw one or two episodes.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
So I know people are always saying there's like such
a dramatic shift kind of between her portrayal to mine,
But honestly, I think it's just like a testament to
how honestly we both approached it, because I didn't even
know which she had done with the character.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
But I think that they the two the two approaches
compliment each other very well.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So I'm happy I would agree. I would agree with that.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
Yeah, that's true. I was gonna ask Rachel going off
with that question from Tony, because when we first sort
of met Sophia, she's sort of morally gray a bit.
And then I feel like when you came on, you
really brought out sort of like the teenage sort of
innocence of Sophia a bit, and so we were curious,
now that you're saying that, now, did give Marnie or
anyone else give you sort of instructions on how to

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play or this was just your taken out on how
you saw her.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
Maybe I was so surprised how much they really let
me just be in the driver's seat for it. Nobody
ever told me to approach it in a certain way.
I think the way that I portray Sophia when I
came onto the show is the same that I did
in our audition, So I think that that was maybe

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another color that they wanted to introduce with the opportunity
of the recast process. So yeah, I think it just
it worked out nicely. And again, she went through such
a transformative thing in her life in general, with the
pregnancy and you know, not being able, not knowing what
she's going to do with this baby and this pregnancy

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and kind of not having full control over that. I
think it makes sense that, you know, even some of
the strongest and bravest and most vicious people you know,
can get pushed into a corner and made to feel
small and kind of reconnect with that innocence again.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
So I think it makes sense.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Yeah, yeah, how.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Long So you auditioned then nine months later, Hello, we
want you to come, and you were in Toronto. You
have between okay, getting that call and then having to
be in Burbank on stage in the Sofia. I'm always
curious how much time they give y'all.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Well, because of the I had to do the process
of like moving countries. It did take a little bit longer,
but I remember when I first got the call, it
was like May first, and my shooting start date was
supposed to be May twenty seventh, and I was like,
I have like whiplash. I like my manager. I was

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serving on my job when I got the call, and
I went up to him and I'm like, I quit.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
I don't know what I can't.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
He was so supportive because he's like been I've been
working at that restaurant for so long, and he's supported
my acting journey.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
So he was like, yeah, like get out of here.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Was really sweet.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah. What so day one on set, you know, you're
playing a whole new person. You're playing pregnant, so that's
a whole new experience in of itself. Did it How
long did it take for you to get used to it? Did?

Speaker 8 (14:37):
Like?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Because you know soaps there's you know, you said, this
is your first real like contract role, and now it's
it's on a soap that's a whole other beast. How
long did it take you to get like settled in?
Did what? Did you know? Getting the getting there is
whiplash enough, but then you get used to the shooting pace.

(14:59):
How was that for you.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Yeah, honestly, I think it was.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
It was kind of a gift in a lot of
ways that I didn't have a previous experience of working
on a series in in a in a more principal role,
because I at that point, you know you have you
have so much material, but you know it all from
the beginning, so you can kind of map out your arc.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
But with this show, obviously you don't know.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Every time I get a script, I'm like, Okay, this
is what's happening.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Like that's like whiplash in itself. But yeah, so I
think it was.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
It was a lot of different adjustments all at once.
But I did have the benefit of not really knowing
a different routine to approach such so much material all
at once. That it was nice because I got to
build it with this with this kind of structure, and

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not be so attached to any kind of outcome and
just be really fluid with whatever writing they gave me.
And I know Sophia's core and foundation of her so
well that that's what I invested in, so that no
matter what they gave me, I was able to justify
why she would do that, why she would say that,

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why she would want this relationship and kind of just
fully surrender to it and not repel it at all, you.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Know, Yeah, Rachel, how would you describe Sophia like when
you when you were first introduced to her and you
started reading the scripts and knowing the storyline, like how
did you see her? And how like if someone asked
you describe this character, like, how would you describe Sophia.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
Like like when I first read the very first episode
that she was going to be.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
In kind of yeah, and then and then has it changed,
like now now that you're you're more settled in it
from your first thoughts to.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Now, Yeah, Oh, that's such a good question. I remember
my first thoughts.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
I liked how much initiative she was taking in terms
of still carving out the path that she wanted for
herself and for her future, even though other avenues were
closed off to her entirely. The fact that she was
just kind of resilient to being told no and she

(17:24):
wants to make everything work. She also cares so much
about the people in her life and the people that
she loves and making them comfortable. I think I did
have an initial thought at the beginning of Like This Girl,
she is more focused I think on making other people
comfortable and happy than she is on herself in a

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lot of different ways.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
But I think that what.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
The pregnancy gave me the opportunity to explore as it
went along to the birth thing and now kind of
where she's at on the show is that she's she's
a lot more of a fighter for herself because it's
in the name of this little baby who she just
loves and cares so much for and wants the best for,
and through that experience has been able to say, I

(18:13):
want the best for myself too, and I'm going to
put my foot down on that too.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Yeah, Richard, I want to ask you about a particlo
was scene that it kind of may seem innocuous, but
I've been reading a lot and it seems like we
talked about on the show, and it seems like fans
have really responded to it. It's the fourth of July episode.
It's with you at the end with the glow sticks
and you're up against the window, and really people really
respond to the scene. Again, like I said, we've talked

(18:39):
about it before. What was the direction and what was
your take on that scene? Because I think people really
responded to you, and they just something about that scene
really touched them and the way you acted it, and
it was just like a little bit of a turning
point for Sophia, I think in people's eyes. So if
you can kind of go into that a little bit, Oh,
that's so.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
That's amazing to hear.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
I had no idea that that was watching that episode
and feeling like, yeah, this this feels like a different,
different shade of her. You know, we don't get to
see her a lot of times completely by herself. I
know we had like the birthing episode where you got
to see those shades of her, But I think I
think what that moment was.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
For me was she's she's always going to try and
be happy.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
And I think it was you know, the way that
they had edited those scenes together too. You know, you
see Tate and Hawley and they're happy and they're having
this romantic moment and it's simultaneous because you see the
fireworks going off with Sophia kind of just alone in
her in her room. But instead of this being another
sad moment for her, you see her kind of looking

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for for excitement and looking for hope and looking to
be happy too, and she had.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Those glob sticks and I thought that was such.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
A weeet that they wrote that in and and I
thought the direction of shooting it through the window and
like seeing her looking up, you know, with so much hope, and.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Yeah, she was she.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
I think that seems a great testament to the fact
that she's she's not going to be taken down by
the circumstances that she's put in. And that again, like
she's still a kid, and fireworks are exciting and postis
are fun, and you know you can't you have to
be able to empathize with that, with that you know,

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part of her too.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
The scenes you just mentioned doing, you know, scenes alone.
We've heard from actors before. I'm not an actor, so
personal experience not not here, but that sometimes, you know,
just another person's performance that you're acting with can bring
out a performance in you that you may not have
known there. But I feel like you did your most

(20:46):
emotional work completely alone. Yes, did you struggle with that
a little bit because you didn't have anyone else to
like to act with or react to or did that
may have even helped you because you really brought out
like I was, like, this girl's really having this moment
right now, and you know, just and I can just

(21:09):
imagine you just in that little set by yourself, with
just like the crew and the cameras around you. What
was that? Do you feel like that was an advantage
in that that you know, lended itself to to you
being able to perform that way, or you know, maybe
a little insight on how it was just to be
able to act like that alone.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
I remember getting that that episode and and reading it
and being like, oh my gosh, this is really a
very I was flattered that they had written something so
complex acting wise for me, because another thing about that
episode is those are the moments of in between for her. Right.

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I didn't get the opportunity to act out the birth
or you know, act out really giving the baby away,
which are opportunities where you're so deeply connected to the
circumstance in that moment that it comes naturally. But I
was given these in between moments and still having to honor,
you know, what would have happened so that the audience

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can understand what she went through.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
And I was intimidated by.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
That, but I.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
Was There were two films that I watched that helped
me to connect in. One of them was Philamina with
Dame Judi Dench, and she has like.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
She had her.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Newborn baby taken from her, and it was like, I
think fifty or sixty years later, she was still looking
for him and she had found out that he had
passed away, and she was talking to somebody who knew him,
and all they could tell her was, you know, he
had a really strong handshake. And I just remember like

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in her eyes and her reaction that she was just
so proud to hear that and emotionally attached to that
one little fact. And so I remember when they gave
me the baby prop, I was looking at it and
I was thinking in my head, like, I wonder if
he'll have a strong handshake, and I in that moment

(23:16):
it kind of clicked for me to endow the baby
blanket prop with like love and symbolism for what it
would mean to have to say goodbye and be the
person in the driver's seat of letting go for the
greater good. And then the other movie was Garfield, actually.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Because I like the movie.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Garfield, but there's like a sequence where Garfield's with his
dad and his dad goes to try and get him
a fish and they're just living behind a dumpster and
Garfield gets picked up as like a stray cat by
this family. And so when his dad comes back, he
has this fish for him and he looks in the
window and it's baby Garfield with this whole family giving

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him so much love and so many fish, and that
Garfield looks so happy, and and that that was the
moment where the dad was like, I'm not gonna I can't.
I can't take take away from him, Like what I
what I'm not able to give him? And so I
think it was those two things I was imagining, you know,
being on the outside of a window looking in on

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a future for that baby.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
That was something Sophia just couldn't give to him. And
she knew that even though she loved him and wanted
to provide. And yeah, so it was.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Those two moments, honestly that that really connected for me,
and just I did so much work leading up to
that because I knew that there would be a birth
and something crazy would happen, because it's the soap world.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
That I knew I would need to I would need
to be very connected to.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
A baby and and know what that relationship would have.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
To mean for her.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah. Well, speaking of those those baby scenes, I think
we have Jin from Nashville, Tennessee, who has a question
about that. Jin. Hey, hey, Joe, Oh, are you on mute?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
She's not.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Oh can you hear us? Jen? Oh? Oh? And we
heard just this out and everything.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
Maybe sign out and sign.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, sign sign out and sign back in. She was ready.
See technical.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Mercury's in retrograde?

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Boy do I know it that? Jen? Nope, we still
can't hear you come back in, like leave the leave
the studio and then and then come back. Okay, Well,
we'll bring Jin from from Nashville.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Uh before the show?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeh we we we had talked before the show. She's
she's come on and asked questions before and then all
of a sudden, see it's Mercury. I don't know. I
don't Mercury going through gatorade like really gets everybody like
it's like slow down this Mercury. Okay, let's say she
is back. Let's see if this works. Jen, are you there? Hello?

Speaker 6 (26:21):
No?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Oh no, she's not.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Well, hype your question in the chat, Jen, and will
we'll make.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Sure well, well her h the question that she had,
which I also have here, see, you always got to
be prepared just in case things go awry. But her
question was, Rachel, what was your preparation to getting ready
to film those those baby scene baby delivery scenes. You

(26:52):
kind of touched on like uh being inspired in the
in the in the movies and things like that, but
was there anything else that that you did to to
prepare uh for for those scenes and the just in
case scene? Like if they were going to have you
actually like giving birth, what what what did you do
to prepare well for.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
The giving birth?

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Because I did I remember this show shoots in one shot,
so I need to know what it's like to push
out a baby. I was watching like these YouTube videos
of like pregnancy bloggers that they've blogged their pregnancies and
their birthday videos, so I was able to get.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Sorry to be fun.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
It actually was quite interesting. I could see why they're
so popular actually.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Because I was like, I'm so invested in this family
and their emotional like moments together.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
The men get scared, okay, who start the pain and
the at the girl and the fluids and.

Speaker 9 (28:03):
Johnny, I they don't they can't show all of that
stuff on me, So I got to just see the
pretty parts of it, and and some of the contractions beforehand,
but in terms of like emotionally preparing to like a
big part of my process as music, and Sophia has
a playlist on my phone, and there were certain songs

(28:23):
I remember listening to songs that that my my.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Parents had it told me were like their songs for
me when I was a baby, Like Baby Mine from Dumbo.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
Was my mom's song for me and and my dad.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
I think there there's another song called always love You
and and I so I just trying to connect again
with that. That the love part of it, more so
than the loss, because when you fill yourself up, I
guess with with so much, so much love, and then
you understand that the scene is that you're saying goodbye,
everything else just comes and you don't.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Have to to practice that so much.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
But yeah, and we actually we we shot a lot
of those scenes in like less than one take. We
would we would shoot the rehearsal of them because the
director Angela tes Rany was she just she kind of
knew that I was so in it that sometimes we

(29:22):
would go through the rehearsals and she would be like,
we got it.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
We we taped it you're good.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
I was like, okay, a great and and so we
just kind of rolled with it like that, and and
it really was all just like one seamless scene kind
of instead of stop and go, stop and go.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
We I have to say, those scenes were so beautiful
and powerful just watching you know, everything from from the
water breaking and then you know, we we didn't see
the birth, but then like you holding the baby, and
we saw everything of like, you know, I it's like

(30:05):
I want to keep you, but I know that's not
the best option for me because I see a brighter
future for me. And I don't want to do this
to you because I want to make sure that you're
you're taken care of, but I kind of have to
do like that, we saw all of Sophia's like worries
and thoughts and everything in that moment and even afterwards,

(30:27):
like like dropping the baby off at the at the
fire station and then like coming home and just like
crawling into bed and just kind of being alone, and
like in her moment we all sat here that we
can was like, what an amazing person to be able
to tell that story emotionally very few words obviously, you know,

(30:49):
because you know you're It was just it was. It
was really so good and in such a moment, and
I don't think any of us could have pictured what
that moment was going to be like for Sophia when
the birth actually happened. I think we all pictured like,
oh my god, the water was gonna break you and Tate,
we're gonna rush off to the hospital and like all that,
but we never would have guessed that like Sophia would

(31:11):
have had to do it alone. And so it was.
It was such a riveting moment. And really, I think
if anyone had any worried, doubt or felt any sort
of way about about Sophia, I think in that moment
you allowed us to feel empathy for her because it

(31:36):
to be so young and to have to make such
a choice like that by yourself. Is it is? It was,
It was moving like I can't I can't say more
than that. So like it was. It was such a
such a powerful moment. And even the events leading after now,
now that's when the real soap operatness of it all,

(31:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, where it's like, now we got the
fake belly, Now we got Miranda a part of it. Wait,
not Miranda. I have been watching too many clips of
Devil res Prada too.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
And so.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
The whole movie is gonna be spoiled because I know.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Side note, it's if you, if you think about it,
it's actually great marketing for the sequel. The fact that
they're like showing clips and stuff and showing like them
filming and stuff. Oh like, I see it as a
marketing thing anyway, Today's but but it's you know, it's
it's the soapiness of it all came in and I

(32:45):
was like, Okay, now we've had a moment. Now we're
moving on to like classic soap opera stuff. What was
your reaction to, like to that, Well, what has your
reaction been to like Sophia's storyline, because that's you said earlier,
they keep everything really under wraps, and they don't they
don't tell you a lot, but like when you finally
get that script and you're like, Okay, what's happening next

(33:07):
with Sophia? Like, what was your initial reactions to what
we're seeing now with the storyline?

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Okay, Well, first of all, thank you so much for
saying all of that. And honestly, something that.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I really like about the way that they write the show.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Is you know, there are these crazy soapy like storylines
and things that happened, but there are also those very
human moments that you get where the audience.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Gets to see, you know, Sophia just.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
As a kid who is you know, we can all
relate to those moments where we're all alone and we're
harboring a lot of you know, grief and sadness and
guilt that you can't really share with the world.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
So I loved that.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
And then you know, obviously we have to go back
into the soapiness of it all.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
I'm trying to remember what my reaction was.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
I I feel like I wasn't surprised because I had
heard all of the tales of the things that other
actors on the show have done.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Yeah, I remember Lindsay Godfrey was like telling me about
her baby storyline.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
And I was like, Okay, I gotta be ready for
anything like.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Control you because I'm going on a ride. And so yeah,
it was just it was just really exciting, I guess,
kind of exciting and fun. Every time I got a script,
I felt like I was like a fan of this show,
like what's happening next?

Speaker 5 (34:42):
And yeah, I think what was it?

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Something?

Speaker 5 (34:48):
What was the question.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Your reaction to the storyline.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Where it's going. I'll follow up with were you with
where you relieve? Was your body relieved to no longer
have to carry the fake belly, because we've had some
conversations about you know, eventually, you know, you get to
the eighth month, the ninth month size, and you can't
not have it put some weight on your back.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
It's true. And and by that size too, they were
like really.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Pinning me into it, so I couldn't take it off
for the whole day even if I had greats and feeling.
If I wanted to go to the commissary and like public,
I would be in the baby belly like nine months pregnant,
and it was, oh yeah, like my it is a
little bit heavy, so my back hurts. I was like

(35:41):
figuring out a way to take naps that were as comfortable.
But I will say that because I came on the
show and I was already in the belly the beginning
of the belly growth, that I had a really hard
time letting it go. And and I remember them being like, oh, yeah,
you don't have to where the belly anymore because you

(36:01):
gave birth, you know, in the soap world, you can
go from nine months pregnant and just completely good again.
And I was like, I still, maybe she's she has
to deflate, so can I just still wear like the.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
And I knew that I noticed that. I'm appreciative of
that actually, because that is that was the first time
I was like, I know, it's a soap. We don't
we don't stay true to life uh too often here,
But on that when they did that, and I noticed
that she was still she still had a poocha, Like
that's true to life. You don't just go from nine

(36:34):
months pregnant to like back to a size too.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
And I was I was so attached to that, like
to that having that that that almost like hug and
like protectiveness around me. And so honestly, I think I
keep it on for At some point they were like
you anywhere you mustn't amore.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
Yeah, Rich I want to ask about we know you
have a very loving, close relationship with their old mom,
but what was it like to sort of build this
sort of like loving but at this era relationship with Jenny,
who is very much unlike Amy Joy.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Yeah, oh she know.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
She she is so great because she comes on the screen,
and she's got this great force and fierceness to her.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
And then in between takes and and things, she's given
me a hug. She's like, are you okay? Are you good?

Speaker 6 (37:28):
We talk about our personal lives and we have a
very personal relationship off of camera. So I think that
helps to build the loving part into the foundation of
their relationship because as much as they butt heads, you know,
these are two.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
People who really love each other.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
And yeah, and and and so that was what it
was like for me working working with her.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
She's she's great.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
There there was a moment where I feel like we're
you were first introduced to us because during one of
our shows, I said, this is what Sophia needs to
say to her mother.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
I can recite this to you, Tony if you want
me to, because you said you said she said Sophia
should say.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Mom, I'm this is my baby.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
I'm the one who spread my legs, take so get
I'm the one who gets to make the decisions about
what happens to my baby.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
And somebody tagged me and I was watching that.

Speaker 10 (38:31):
I was literally I was with my friends and I
was like, you guys have got to see this. Is
great exactly my perspective on it, to be honest, and
seeing that, I was like, yeah, oh, Tony's going to
be happy when he sees eventually Sophia is going to
stick up the middle.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
When it was just a couple of weeks ago, when
when you finally were like I'm eighteen, like I'm doing this. No,
don't come to Chicago, like I was like, I was like,
this is what we've been waiting for for Sophia to
be like look here, okay, like get your life all right.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
I make my decision, so I will make the rest
of them.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yes, Oh my god, Rachel, you just gave me life
by that whole thing. I love it. I love it,
but I do. I do. I'm very happy that Sofia
was finally and it showed her growth too as as
a person of just being like, listen, I don't need
you breathing down my back to make a decision on

(39:35):
what I want to do with my baby. Because I
felt like throughout this, whenever Sophia's mom came in, it
was so tense because she had a vision of what
she wanted for Sophia and Tate, and Sofia had a
completely different vision. That didn't include that baby. But you know,

(39:57):
it was like it was like, as a as a parent,
you have to at some point look at your your
child and go I raised you to make the best
decision and I just have to support you in that.
But missus CHOI was like, huh uh, I let me
tell you how this is gonna go. We need you to
They need to be Christian, they need to be Bible

(40:19):
red and ready, they need to be this and that,
and and I feel like Sophia was just waiting until
like wait till wait. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
Yeah, I think Sofia's had a lot of like boiling
boiling and then it reaches a point you know where yeah,
it all just it all just goes over. At least
that's my experience of making pasta and stuff, you know.
But I think, yeah, I think that I think that
there's a lot of a lot of those moments that
happened with her, and this was definitely one of the first.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
And then you know, as we go on, there's just
you know, I was I was.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
Happy when we were talking earlier about those scenes where
you get to see Sophia alone in in her in
her space, and that the audience gets to see that
because no, you know, the characters on the show, they
don't know that. That's how how deeply you know, transformative
and painful that experience was for her.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
So where they.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
Might lack empathy because of their own you know, perspectives
and and you know what they want for themselves and
in their lives, I think the audience might be able
to empathize a little bit more with how Sophia decides
to respond.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Another No, I was just going to another example when
a character had a scene by herself which is related
to the story. Tina, who plays Melinda, had her own
little baby storyline. She didn't have the baby, but she
facilitated a feeling, right and it was a you know,

(41:59):
she was pulling all these shenanigans. And she had a
scene by herself with the baby similar to like the
scene like just a with the baby in a room
probably fake baby, most likely fake baby. And that's when
the empathy for that character came out. So I really
saw kind of like a mirroring. And it was interesting
how they put those two characters together too. I was like, oh,

(42:19):
I see the connections here.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
Yeah, and to you know, touch on the mother and
daughter dynamic. I think also with Melinda's character and Sophia's character,
and how Melinda's had her own experience losing her daughter,
and that.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
She says she sees she sees.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
So much of herself and Sophia, I think that their relationship,
at least in my eyes as the.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Actor, was a very is a very pseudo mother.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
And daughter relationship because Melinda provides her with support where
Amy doesn't, right, and I think Sophia confuses that with
with genuine love and connection.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
So it's it's very interesting how that whole relationship blossoms.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
You touched on the fact that you know, while we
as an audience are super empathetic towards Sofia because we
see what she's going through right now, whereas the people
on the canvas don't. They have no idea what she's
been through up until this point. I want to touch

(43:28):
on an importan scene partner that you have, which is
who is tape played by I Love le o' howard.
How how in your mind, how does Sophia navigate this
relationship and this this yeah, this relationship because it's they

(43:50):
were they work together, but they were not together, and
he was supportive, but he wasn't supportive in the way
that she necessarily needed. So how does she navigate, you know,
going off of this week's scenes, how does she navigate
you know, just having a simple conversation with him.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:08):
I loved the this week's scenes with Tate and Sophia
where she goes to, you know, tell him that the
baby is a girl and it's been born in this
whole big lie because there was you know, I think
she in a lot of ways, even though she's lying,

(44:28):
she is giving him, you know, she wants for him
to not experience that suffering and grief and guilt that
that she.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Has and is harboring.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
And she she cares about him so much as you know,
somebody in her life who she loves, that she doesn't want.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Him to to feel those things.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
So in telling him this big fabricated story, and you know,
she really goes into depth about who these parents are
in a way that is what she wishes. Like, I
think she's trying to give him the experience that she
wishes she had in terms of like mentally being able
to move on and process, even though maybe she say

(45:12):
isn't doing it in the right way. But I thought
that those scenes were really great because Leo was able
to tap into that I guess confusion and vulnerability, and
you know, there is Sophia trying to be very positive
about it and concealing a lot of that same pain
and vulnerability that.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
She's feeling but can't wear necessarily on the surface the
way that she sees with him.

Speaker 6 (45:39):
So he's an amazing scene partner. I love working with Leo.
And yeah, I remember us filming that day. It was
we felt like a like a real dynamic going on.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah. I wanted Sophia to just look at it and
be like, shut up and sign the papers. You you
off here in the lake with you with your girlfriend.
I'm over here, pregnant, having babies, making decisions, signed this pain.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
You know, you know, you.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Know it was Tate about the chief condoms.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
Right, well, I mean I wasn't. I wasn't there when
I full that stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
With the backstory, like you know, with then the you know,
you know it was his fault.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
You know, he's sitting there.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I'm not signing anything until Yeah, I had to say that.
I was like, shut up and sign him. Yeah, but
then you have to be like, oh, he you know,
you have to try to pull some empathy for him
to but yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Well no, well if he was, so, I'm sorry. See
this is this is when I guess.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
This is where the honesty was too, because Sophia says
to him, like, I did call you when I went
into labor, but you were with Holly.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
Now maybe that doesn't happen just twenty four hours before,
but that.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Did happen, right, you know, I think, yeah, they're with
Sophia too. It's like she she protects a lot of
people around her from this, like she is building up
I think a lot of wrath towards these types of
situations the same way if you you know, people watching
the show are like, what the heck?

Speaker 5 (47:14):
This is so frustrating. Yeah, it's gonna hit up that
boiling point right.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Because there's a part where you where you do have
that moment for tape, like all like I wish you
could have been there, But then there's a moment of
like you around here with your girlfriend and moving on
with your life as if you have no responsibility, like
nobody told you to go to the lake. Sofia ain't
been able to do nothing her senior year. She couldn't
she couldn't graduate because she was in the bed. She

(47:40):
couldn't go to the lake, she couldn't go to the
senior party, she couldn't go see the firewhere she at
home with a glow stick wishing upon a star. And
now you sitting here want to be like, but I'm
not gonna sign the papers because it's like, no, br
you've been living your life. Sign these papers so I
can go live mine.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
You know what, I think you should be a writer
on the show because of that, along with the last thing.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
I think all of those things should have gone to air.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
You now have another monologue the next time you're on
a show, we expect you to.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
I'll memorize that one too.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, I mean the strongest, I think the strongest compliment
that I can give, And this is my perspective as
a Yesterday was National Ants to Day for anybody who
wasn't paying attention. Yes, uh so the strongest compliment I
think I could give your portrayal, Sophia is those the

(48:34):
scene the scenes the last month that you've had, which
I think every single one should be in your amy
reel for next year. The one word that came to
mind every time I see was that's a mother that's
a mother, someone who goes through every conceivable pain, emotional, physical,

(48:59):
and pushes it down for the sake of a child.
That's a mother.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
That is like the greatest, greatest compliment I could hear,
because honestly, so much of what I was I wanted
to do justice to an experience that I didn't quite
understand because I have such a strong mother, I have
such strong grandmothers, and and you know, my aunts and
my whole family of women that and just so many

(49:26):
women around the world that go through these experiences that
seem you know, Niche and Sophie in some ways, but
this specific storyline is actually quite universal. And yeah, and
motherhood comes in so many different shapes, and just because
Sophia doesn't want to raise that baby doesn't mean that
she's not still a mother and still experiencing those feelings

(49:51):
in motherhood. And I just think, I think mothers are
are the strongest, strongest people, and all they do is
give love and be so selfless about it and protect
everyone around them and you know, wear all of the
armor to make sure that their little babies are going
to be good.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
And be happy.

Speaker 6 (50:11):
And I felt, I feel that from my mom all
the time, so I knew that that was how Sophia
was feeling toward the babies.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Thank you so much. It's an amazing compliment.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Now where do you think Sophia got the picture of
the adoptive patient?

Speaker 6 (50:29):
You know, I think she got her hands on like
a like an AI, can you make me a little
baby with a family?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
You can do that? Now.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
It's so funny because like when she was like, I
have a picture, I was like, now, wait a minute,
and then she flashed a picture and I was like, now,
y'all really gonna believe this picture? This look this looks
straight off of Google, like happy family with newborn baby.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
No, no, no, she went to she went to Ross or
whatever Salem's Ross went to the Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
It was very like olden males. Yeah, very old school.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
Melinda didn't oversee that part. She let me handle operations.
Oh yeah, baby picture front. So that's that's what we got.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
But you know what, it's on them for buying it.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I guess yes, I.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Mean, no, no, te. But the pictures that we've seen
the past few weeks have been interesting, like the one
of of Holly and Ari.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Kidnap. I've seen this one too, They're like.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
It's like like kidnap but making it fashion.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
It's like, well, he has a history with those photos.
We know some of our favorites, the Gaddy one and
then the one of all time, the was it Xander
and Nicole one nee Rachel will send them to you.
They're hilarious.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Okay, yeah, well but before we we let you go,
because like again, we'll we'll keep you here forever and
then we'll end up just just talking. We do want
to play a fun little game called Rachel's Take. That's
all right, we be confused with Rachel's Tate, Yeah right,

(52:32):
because we all know at the moment it's Tate because
Tate is being had by somebody else. But that's a
whole nother thing. But we want to we want to
get your take on Sophia's choices. Okay, okay, wait, did
I miss something?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Take him like doing twenty more seconds to get it?

Speaker 6 (52:58):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Get it? You'll get it later me you.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
Half, But you guys got it because I wouldn't would
I will?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Okay that is what my English teacher would call penny.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Okay, So, Rachel, who do you think would be best
for Sophia Tate or.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Aaron, Okay, I think that.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
I mean, what I think Sophia needs is is she
needs somebody who's going to give her the love that
that she gives them. And Titus had his opportunity, he
is not delivering. So I would say I would venture
to say that, Aaron, I think maybe I don't know,

(53:55):
maybe I would hope, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Mean he did, he did earlier say that he thought
that he did have feelings for Sophia and he thought
like they would would get together. And I think we
were all like, I mean, there was a moment where
we were rooting for Tit and Sofia because we're I mean,
I feel like you always have to say that before

(54:20):
you say something shady like we're we're over Tat and Holly,
like they like for them to be so young, they
have been through a lot.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
Maybe they're trauma bonded and that's why they keep going
back to each other.

Speaker 9 (54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah, Sophia said, I'm an extra stage left on this,
like you.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
I think if if.

Speaker 6 (54:42):
I was, I don't know, Sophia is like begging to
stay center stage. But if I were like Sophia, like
curtain call, let's get a new man out here.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
And and focus on that.

Speaker 8 (54:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Okay, yeah, now great guy.

Speaker 11 (54:56):
Wrong, Yeah, exactly, He's awesome now with everything that has transpired,
Like you know, before all of the Shenanigans happened, Holly
and Sofia had a great friendship.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Do you think that Holly and Sofia could maintain a
friendship again?

Speaker 6 (55:15):
I think what I love that that I know I
didn't get to explore that it was the previous actress
that got those scenes with Ashley. But I think what's
so interesting about having them go from best friends to
this enemy's thing is that everything that they do and

(55:35):
they say to each other, no matter how vicious or
mean or it is, it's all rooted in love because
they did love each other at one point and care
for each other deeply.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
And you know, those those are the only people that
can really.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
Hurt you, right when are people who you love and
care about. So I think that that's been interesting to explore.
And I have always said from them beginning, like a
storyline where Holly and Sophia come back together and just say,
you know what this happened, Let's put it behind us
and let's go girls club. Like I would be I

(56:12):
would back one hundred percent. I think that would be
amazing full circle moment.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yes, agreed, Like I feel like, you know, once the
dust settles, it's like, you know, and we get Sophia
a man, it could be like all right, girl, like
we could go out on a double d.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Just honestly, if that was an option in the first one,
I was to go there.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I mean, listen, I think I think everyone in Salem
needs a therapist besides doctor Marlina Evans, like she needs
a break. She really is, Okay.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Would say buds overstuds.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Okay, okay. Last question, do you think Sophia should have
kept the baby or did it the way that that
she did.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
I think that had Sophia.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Been I think that.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
No shade, but.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
Sophia should have been allowed to make whatever her initial
decision was, because your initial reactions, your gut reactions, are
very true and honest, and she knew herself well enough
in that moment to know what she wanted, and nobody
should have stood in the way of that, because then
she would have never had to come to this crossroads

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and deeply traumatic decision that she had to make and and.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
Go through with.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Though I do think that she knew from the very
beginning she did not want to be a mother like
and raise a baby, and any decision that she wanted
to make should have been allowed.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, thank you Rachel. And that was Rachel's take, everybody.
I oh, this just this just came to mind. H
the note that was written for for the baby. Did

(58:17):
did you write it or did or was it or
did you open the book? And I was like, oh,
it's already written. I just got to read it.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
They it was already written like in the in the
script what it was. And so yeah when I when
I showed up, it was it was pre written.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Like that.

Speaker 10 (58:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
So I I didn't get to contribute to that note,
but I did, in my preparation across the whole pregnancy
write my baby many notes. So yeah, just like a
part of what I would do to try and build
that connection as she went along and as I was
on this journey of filming and so many different things

(58:55):
happening to me. And yeah, this is probably why I
had such a hard time letting go with the freaking baby.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah. Yeah. But also I think it comes to mind,
like knowing that that you personally, just as an actress,
to really get those those feelings and emotions like wrote letters.
It now puts into perspective. The scene with UH with
Leo and Hovey and Sophia seeing the baby, and it

(59:24):
was such a and again such a moment of I'm
playing it cool because I know this is my baby,
but inside I am just an emotional wreck. But I
got to keep it together because I can't let them
know that I'm the one that dropped it off. But
I'm so glad to see that that the baby is
healthy and just know and just seeing all of that

(59:44):
in in that and how you portrayed that, just just
even saying that just puts everything into perspective. And again,
just kudos to you, because you know that had to
have been a strong moment and a strong feeling to
like know that the baby that you away and being
able to see the baby again and hear the laugh
and like know that they're well taken care of and

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their adjusting and that you know they're not somewhere, you know,
just in the system or or someplace bad off. You know.
I feel like as a as a mother who had
to go through that, just being able to know that
the baby is fine was it was that was such
a journey. So like, kudos to you for that too,
for for expressing that scene as well as you did.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
Yeah, there was no way she was going to be
able to see and and not go over, you know,
Rsel you talk about those motherly instincts right like she
needs to go over? Is he okay? Like what formula
is he on? What's what's going on here? So that
was that was a great scene. And I remember before
we shot it in my Sofia album, there's a John

(01:00:51):
Mayer song I think it's called You're Gonna Live Forever
in Me, and it was just like evoke that feeling
of like I she had to be okay with all
of that love that she had for the baby, just
having to be inside of her and live inside of
her and not be able to kind of wear that
on the outside.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
But yeah, oh my goodness, Oh, just kudos to you,
Rachel are amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
We are super excited to see what happens in the
future with Sophia. We always in our interviews this way
and it's the safest way but also the most intriguing way.
If you could give one word as to what things

(01:01:40):
look like in the future, for Sophia. What would that
one word be? Explosive and like without hesitation, an explosive,
get into it. Wait till you see her. It's about
to get good. That's all right, all right, well listen,

(01:02:04):
well we will wait for the I mean explosive that
goes with it? Does it come with a glow steak?

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Well, so we were filming and I broke the first one.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
It was like, I know, explosive could be literal too. Yeah, yeah,
that's true, that's true. She's like that, she said, y'all
said one word and that's all you get. We'll take
with that what you my lips are seeing. Well, Rachel,
thank you so much for coming on. This has been

(01:02:34):
such a joy to be able to talk to you
about Sophia and just also just get to know you
as well. So thank you so much for coming on
and and joining our fun, wacky shady show.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Thank you guys so much for having me. This was
so much fun. I had a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yay. Well, as things progress, we are definitely going to
have you back on so that we can chit chat
and talk about what's coming up with Sophia.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Okay, sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Days if you know, whenever that may happen.

Speaker 6 (01:03:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, that would be great, be great opportunity
to meet meet everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Yes, yes, yes, well thank you again. Rachel enjoyed the
day and uh yeah, we can't wait.

Speaker 11 (01:03:21):
Bye so much bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Oh my gosh, she is so great. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I love how she gave face as she signed off.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Too gorgeous though, gorgeous, and she had a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Nice little setup and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Yes, oh my god. But she so such a such
a talent, such an amazing talent, like I mean to
know that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Like yeah, her work in that yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Which further explained why we were able to really connect
with her, because she has done the work so that
she can take us on this journey. And that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Came off as authentic, authentic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah yeah, And that's why all the time I want
to tell off Tate because Tate is doing team too much.
You can't maybe daddy and somebody boyfriend at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I know, I not, well, do what you can, but
not well you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
He's another He's just like his daddy. Anyway, Yeah, Tate,
this week was like you said, Tony signed the paper,
but yeah, the paper and maybe not in my head.
Stop crying like he started crying. I was like, stop crying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Yeah, how I do want to have the most empathy
for that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:50):
Yeah, no, I I was with him, But I wish
I wish we got that tate more during because I
feel like that's something we've complained about, like having his
It was nice to see it at the end. I
just wish we got it more throughout.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
The Yeah, wishy washy up until this point.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's too late, like yeah, you
know what, too little, too late, dude, you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Had all this time to set a firm emotion on
this and you didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
And also you like he should have he should have
been ready like yo, like she about to have the
baby any minute, and you just love I mean, I know,
like she was kidnapped and all that kind of stuff,
you know, but you should have had your phone like
on the ready. Oh okay, not like a whole day
later she done had the baby, washed it up, found

(01:05:40):
a picture, and like came back with some babels.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Yeah, Like, this isn't the nineties anymore where you have
to like find somebody's pager number and then wait for
them to call.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
You back somebody's number.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yes, yeah, this may or may not be based on
a true story. But yeah, yes, and then wait our
for someone to finally pick up the damn phone and say, hey,
my water broke. But but no, this everybody has tracking
on everybody now that people know within seconds. If you're
a labor you know, there's no excuse.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Yeah, I just I do wonder though, like where where
the storyline is headed, because now Sarah is on high
alert because she's like, wait a minute, Sophia had a
baby boy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Girl, hippa hippa, hippa, hippa.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Well hippa, but also, Sarah, you got a whole another.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Yeah, keep your nose out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
With Sarah's history of keeping secrets and the result of
keeping secrets, she should have looked at that iPad, closed
it and actually see it, like just don't girl, you
plenty of fish to fry.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Just leave it alone.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
It happen.

Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
Now your business going, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Going, going about your business. There's there's nothing to see here. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
I think it's gonna depend how how close this whole
like Sarah Brady thing is gonna be. I feel like
that's going to be the factor.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Yeah, mm hmm, all right, Well, in my opinion, the
sex of the baby is it completely one hundred percent
until they are born? Well, well, no, and even then
it could change.

Speaker 7 (01:07:30):
Sex doesn't usually change from us once you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Ultrasu Yeah no, I mean like, yeah, that's your biological gender. Yeah, yes,
biological gender does not change. Talking about like fetal abnormalities,
even that would that would be seen on an ultrasound.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I mean, I don't know. I I haven't been pregnant.
I had a scare once, but I was just gassed. Yeah.
All right, let's move on to our next top storyline,
which is the people versus Jeannie Demira. Yep, that sounds

(01:08:13):
about right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
It was just a lot of this story until like
the end of the week and Marlena had her a
fainting spell. It just seemed like it was similar conversations
happening over again, like Johnny and Chanelle, you didn't do it,
and I know you didn't do it, and we're going
to support each other. Okay, great, we heard that last week.

(01:08:35):
Good depth. And then they went and banged or something.
I don't know because she got Randy and then you know,
EJ had his hypnosis session. Can't see who the shooter was,
And I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
I actually thought he was going to pretend like he
was under hypnosis and named Chanel.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Oh see. I thought maybe he was pretending he didn't
see I thought maybe he was pretending he I thought
maybe he was pretending that he couldn't see it, that
he actually could see who the shooter was and is
just keeping it quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
I don't trust that man subconscious. Okay, yes, we've we've
been through this. We've all we've been through the EJ.
EJ set up his own shooting scenario. We've been through
the EJ's covering someone. That's not the case. Let it go.
The reality is the most likely scenario, based on this
week's lack of UH suspects, is that EJ. We know

(01:09:37):
for a FACTJ saw who the shooter was. EJ subconscious
is not allowing him to remember whose face was on
the other end of that gun. Ergo, the shooter is
someone EJ not only knows but cares about. As reality is,

(01:09:59):
that's probably only a handful of people. Because while there
might be a lot of people in EJ's orbit, and
there might be a lot of demos running around, there's
probably only a handful of people in EJ's life who
could shoot him. And scare him that much.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Well, I would think the gun would scare him more
than anything.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
No, but that's not what's scaring him because he can
see the gun. He can't see the face of the
shooter the gun. That's he said that this week.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
He saw it in the moment, but is blocking it
out because that part of it was more traumatic than
the actual.

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
Yeah, the identity of the person is traumatic.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Note which you know replaying that clip back, it comes
across as someone that he was shocked was there and
then shocked that they had a gun and before he
could process anything, he was like shot and laying on
the ground. So we are still at a standstill or
on who done shot EJ. We know it's not Johnny,

(01:10:59):
we know it's not Chanel, but.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
We don't have an explanation yet of how the Chanel
video came to be.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's a I Y, well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
No, it's it was what's her face reading and what's
her face with some AI or some editing or video
photoshopping that that that did that. It just hasn't been
set up.

Speaker 7 (01:11:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, I think I think we have a we've we've
What I think right now is we have a red
herring who they've kind of we think it might be.
But then I think there's well, now three other possibilities
because I started when I was watching it this week,

(01:11:45):
I was like, Oh, that would kind of it would
kind of be a twist. But then I'm like, it's
been done before and it would be kind of a repeat.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
So I think we're thinking the same person. Yeah, and
then we almost being in the same person, have no
idea what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yeah, I mean it's a possibility, but I think I
think that, I mean, their general consensus is is that
the the suspect list is getting tighter in our minds
in terms of the characteristics that we put out there.
But we're loathed to say a name at this point

(01:12:22):
because all of we've said all of the names of
the people who are currently on the canvas. Let's put
it that way, can.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
We, okay, in our in our private chat that we
have on here, well, everyone name who at this moment
they think is going to be the person who shot EJ.

(01:12:57):
And I feel like we will like, wait and it's
when it's actually revealed.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Wow, we have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
So many different Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:13:07):
Okay, I I kind of was at the end of it.
I was kind of thinking you were thinking that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I flipped.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
Oh Tony, oh wait, you're okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Okay, never mind, you were not at all in the page.
And yet we can't. And yet I think, and yet
I think we all I can see where each of
these answers, as wild as they are, would have valid reasons.
I can I I like, I see the names just

(01:13:43):
so you know, like, no, we're not going to be
naming them right now. We'll come back to it at
another time. But yeah, I think we have there. There
are valid points for each of them. And nobody, no,
none of us said the same person.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
No, and we all surprised each other.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
We were like, wait, yeah, yeah, that was yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
It has to be somebody that okay, like the one
that was mentioned.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Is not which one h the one that was not mentioned?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
No one, Okay, there was one that was mentioned that
I definitely don't want it to be because they don't
have a presence right now. I don't want to be
somebody who we haven't seen. I wanted to be somebody
who's been They got to give us that satisfaction, yeah,
and left field and have that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Be Yeah, and I totally get to get that perspective. Yeah,
we've talked about we've talked about that how we don't
want the shooter to be someone who's not currently on
the canvas. It's just at this point there, like I said,
the the list, we've gone through everybody who's currently on

(01:14:58):
the canvas, and while everybody had valid reason, it seems
like the characteristics of the shooter that EG is remembering
are very unique.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
I am I am making a folder on my desktop
that says who done shot? EJ guesses? And I'm going
to put the screenshot in this folder so that one

(01:15:31):
I don't forget what what did my mom say?

Speaker 7 (01:15:36):
Listen, that's not so crazy after this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Week, it's not crazy. It's not crazy. But I feel
like after eleven years, we can let Stephano or STEVENO
or whoever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I was going to say, is it Stephan or is
it Stephen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Stefano?

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
That's not to say that the Phoenix is influence can't
necessarily have something to do with said current storyline. These
are just you know, we're we're still in the building
block stages unfortunately, which is why it's taking forever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
It's just gonna be very interesting because now with now
with the addition of Susan and Susan coming in with
her heb gbs and you know, feeling like these, which
I think I don't know's it's weird because like Susan

(01:16:44):
is picking I can't tell she's picking up on who
shot EJ or just vibes for like a different story.
But her psychic stuff is probably working over time because
with her confrontation with Gabby, her feeling the he bgbs
from from Marlena and then mar Lena, which I don't know.

(01:17:08):
I love when they do flashbacks. I love when they
do flashbacks. And when when Rachel came in and was like,
will you read me a story and it was like
a thousand Arabian Nights? I was like, oh. And then
when Marlena went to bed and she was remembering I
guess the Arabian night that was set up back in
the day for her, I was like, where are we going?

(01:17:32):
I love a flashback, but where are we going?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
What's about to happen? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:17:39):
Yeah, I don't know where this is going. We saw
it was part of what the when you're.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so this this seems to be harkening
back to the you know is Stefano's favorite nickname for
Marlena was the Queen of the Night. But I was
not watching that particular storyline, and somebody catch me up
on what that was.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
What her being called queen of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
So this it was in the summer ish of nineteen
ninety four, just coming off of like Roman had left,
John and Kristen were together, Marlena was alone living in
the penthouse. Stefano bought the condo next to hers and

(01:18:25):
was essentially taking her at night, and I can't remember
if he was drugging her to like put her, but
the whole storyline was like, oh, I'm so tired all
the time. Oh I'm just like so blah blah blah.
And it was because Stefano she was walking through her armoir.
She had an armor in the bedroom. She would walk
through the armar and be in that setting that they
showed the flashbacks, and then they would have these evenings

(01:18:51):
and then she would go back, fall asleep, wake up
and just be tired and not really I don't think
she remembered it. But then that's also brought her defenses
down so that the devil could come and take over
her her take over her, her body.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
So this part was the beginning of that storyline.

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
Kind of yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Okay, all right, yeah, sorry, I was busy watching Sesame
Street sat I act like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
I mean, nineteen ninety four, she was like nine, No,
not that old for you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
I was too.

Speaker 7 (01:19:28):
Yeah, she's younger than that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
In nineteen ninety four, you were too, I was too. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:19:35):
How old do you think Elly is?

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
I mean, I just didn't do I was like, she's thirty,
but I didn't do the math, right, I still think
nineteen ninety four was twenty years ago, and it was yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:19:45):
Wait, what are you guys talking about twenty years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Nineteen ninety four? Right now, girl.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
And Barney and the Puzzle Place. I really was a
PBS kid for a while. The Wiggles, The Wiggles was
not PREBOS.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
That around then.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
I don't know, No, that was that, you know, that's
jumping like eight years ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Oh whatever. Anyways, that was That was the Queen of
the Night storyline, and it led into Marlena getting possessed,
and at one point, you know, when they found out
what Stephano was doing, they blamed Stephano for her getting
possessed and then at one point Marlena was possessed and
threw Stephano off a balcony.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Yeah, okay, so so it seems like they do have
plenty of material to choose from to do that, because
the devil storyline, we you know, we've been there, done
that three times now, so we're going, we're going seems

(01:20:46):
like they're going back to a time when actually this
makes a lot of sense because, as you said, Michael,
that was a time when Roman was gone, John was gone, Martin.
Lena was very much alone, and it seems like now
bringing that back is smart because this is almost the

(01:21:08):
same state that she was in then.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
She'd had a she had a traumatic event, and now
she's alone. Now what what they're going to make of this?
I you know, couldn't couldn't tell you, h But yeah,
that's nice that we can see them shifting to other
other things now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Yeah, I can see I can see the possibility in it. Yeah,
but they should have called soon and a lot Susan,
a lot sooner to pivot. Yeah, Susan should have been
the first call when we started saying dead end after
dead end. In fact, why didn't EJ make this call.

(01:21:47):
I mean, I'm really happy that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
She didn't say something.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Can I say something? Do remember when EJ got shot,
Susan was one of the first calls and she didn't respond.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Hope.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
She didn't show up till like day two, day three.
What was she doing?

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
We'll see, But in the meantime, Susan should have been
You know, when you exhaust all viable leads and options,
you do have to start thinking out of the box,
as Chanelle said. And I'm glad that Chanelle has such
a comfortable relationship with Susan. It's like, hey, I need

(01:22:26):
a favor.

Speaker 7 (01:22:28):
I'm like that. I mean, the real reason is no
one takes Susan seriously. They patronize her and they love her,
but they don't take her seriously. I think this was
a nice switch when she showed up and it wasn't
just she's there for the trial. She's there because Chanel
called her, which I thought was a nice little like twist,
like of integrating them together. Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
I mean, if anything, I would be pounding Johnny on
the head because if not for Grandma Susan, he would
still be possessed by the devil.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
MHM. The psychic on this show. Never get any respect.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
It happened to Celeste, It's happened in to Susan. No
one ever, nobody ever believes Celeste, even though every goddamn
time she was right and it was always Mom, you
were right, Celeste, you were right. She's like the bitch,
I'm right every time. Maybe listen to me, maybe listen
to me earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
I'm getting the premonition.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Great, the death card every time. Every time she got
those cards out, I'm like, the last one is going
to be the death card, and she's going to be
and I'm like, let me guess the death card. Yep,
death card.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
The problem, No, the problem isn't that they take they
don't take Susan seriously. The problem is that they, because
she's psychic, they want her to have the A, B
and C of who did it and why they do
it and what time they did it. And she's like,
that's not how this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Works, right, She just she just goes. She goes off
of vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Yeah, no, no, what was it? No, no blank, just vibes,
no drama, just vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
I think so, yeah, I think that's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Yeah, Look, I can get you there, but don't expect
me to do all work, right, That's what she said.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
All right, Well, we're going to see how this whole
trial plays out. I mean, I feel like it's I
feel like at this point it's just really to show
that Johnny didn't do it and to paint it on someone.
So we'll see. Let's move on to our next top storyline,
which is so long Doug. Are we sad that Doug

(01:24:42):
is gone?

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
I'm disappointed that they didn't make better use of this
character and this actor while they had him. They just
kind of put him in this on this never ending
storyline of money to these loan sharks, and now it's
continuing because apparently the money that Tate gave him is

(01:25:06):
was taken and not paid off, so he still owes
this money I did for it. Yeah, yeah, well I
was getting to that they did. I did appreciate that
he and Julie like made amends and that Julie kind
of relented and he was able to get the necklace
back and that kind of was tied up a little bit.

(01:25:28):
I appreciated that they didn't just let Doug leave without
that kind of closure with with Julie. I don't know
what what it was. I just I just kind of
appreciate it, and he was able to leave like on
a somewhat positive note at least. I know the two
girls want nothing to do with him, think he's trash,
rightfully so, but but at least and that kind of
leaves it like he didn't leave in all disgrace like

(01:25:53):
he'd be, he'd be welcome back. So but I but yeah,
I do think they had potential with this character and
just did it. Maybe didn't know what to do or
for whatever reason, just couldn't couldn't make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
I I wish that the reconciliation between Doug the Third
and Julie happened sooner. I do feel like there could
have been a lot of storyline with Doug, including maybe
some sort of interesting triangle square between Ari, Holly Tate

(01:26:31):
and Ari like that that could have been interesting, just
him being such a legacy like sim from like a
legacy person. I also found it interesting that you've hated
him this whole time, and and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Then that was a little that was a little too
quick for my taste. I guess I appreciated it as
he you know, I appreciated the the bittersweetness as he
was walking out the door. But at the same time
that was very quick for a woman who's been for
the last few months, just like not giving him an inch.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
And well and just not be an understanding because I mean,
she too stole Doug was a was a con artist.
So it's just kind of like, yeah, how is what
he's done so unforgivable when he even tried to like
fix the problem, which in the end he did, you know,
he got the necklace back for her and went about

(01:27:38):
his business. But I don't know, It's just it's just
sad because, like I mean, first of all, payne Meyer,
I mean, easy on that, but but yeah, I feel
like there's a lot and they still will not say
how much he owes them people, because I literally leaned

(01:28:00):
into the TV when she was like, you know, I'll
pay off the loan shark, just tell me, like you
know how much it is, And I was like and
it was like okay, and I was like, we still
don't We still don't get to know. We still don't
get to know how much this man owes these folks
to where they are going after him and then done kidnapped, just.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Another disconnecting this storyline about why that, why that amount,
Like that's such a minute detail it wouldn't deserve the
storyline for the viewer to know. Yeah, so hopefully if,
if you know, in the future, they bring the character
and this actor back, they have a more flushed out,

(01:28:45):
cohesive storyline for him, because this one was just you know,
kind of wasted.

Speaker 7 (01:28:51):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
And in terms of in terms of Julie, like everyone saying, oh,
Julie was only nice to him because he gave the
necklace back. In my mind, I took it. Julie had
it in her that she wanted I took it. It's
like she wanted to maybe forgive him, but was just
standing because she felt like, you know, you get like that,
you know, no, they can't make it right, No, I'm

(01:29:15):
not gonna do it. And then finally, once a gesture
is made, that's when you're able to. And it's not
necessarily a superficial thing. It's just that they felt like
they needed to stand firm and they just need a
little a little chip away in that. You know, I
appreciated it. It should have happened. I agree, it should have
happened sooner, but I appreciate that they didn't let it

(01:29:36):
happen before the character left.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
Yeah, there's also that. I mean, it's even more a
disconnect that, you know, he returns the necklace and you
know she's all about you know, he's a thief, he's
a thief, and then she lets him go with Doug
Senior's priceless World War two watch.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Like and in my mind, I was like, he upon it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
I got I didn't think that. My hope is that,
you know, we've talked about this before with other characters.
Sometimes it's right character, wrong timing for whatever reason. I
think our collective hope is that they planted enough breadcrumbs,

(01:30:24):
enough seeds in Friday's scenes between Doug the Third and Julie,
that from them some sort of flowers will grow and
down the line, maybe we can revisit this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Yeah, I suddenly pictured him coming back in town and
the first shot is of the pocket watch.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
Probably I could totally say that I would love it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
I just I really hated to see Doug go I did.
I was just like, oh, this is so sad, because.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Peyton had like a good he had a good rapport
with everybody, Like he kind of came in and you know,
that actor's never done a soap before, and I don't know,
I felt like he was a.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Nice addition, right with potential maybe you know, maybe just
bad timing.

Speaker 7 (01:31:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate. He was great, The character was great. Wasted.
I mean, when you think about it, it's sad because
he he was gone before he aired. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's not I mean, that's I feel like that's really
that has nothing to do with how the characters even
perceived by the audience at that point. If they're already gone,

(01:31:38):
that to me says that is a writing thing. That
is stuff behind the scenes that are going on that
you know, either they didn't know what to do or
with the writing switch, there wasn't interest in the character.
But I think the characters a lot of potential, and
hopefully they bring him back, whether it's this actor or
someone else in the near future, or you know, get

(01:32:00):
let him rest for a little while and bring him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Back with all debts paid off.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Yeah, no more debt, Yeah, no more, no more, no
more debts, no more deverie m h no.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
But I'm I am glad that Ari and Holly made
it out, even though Ari took one for Holly was
like Holly, Holly was just basically like, all right, girl,
you go ahead. Yeah, what's around there? Oh? Like, there

(01:32:35):
was never a moment where she was like, Okay, I'm
coming in behind you. She was like you let me
know when you get to the other side, and then
and then I'll start. And then she was like I'm stuck.
And then all of a sudden, Takee came running in
and she was like yea, all right, all right boy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
That being said that, I appreciate those tiny little moments
and this was one of them this week that hearkened
to real life where it's like those air ducks are
not meant for people's weights. Yeah, and that's very true
to life. Think it's like, no, you just because you

(01:33:12):
might be able to fit in there, doesn't mean it
can support your weight.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Okay. So I know it wasn't supposed to be funny,
but the scene where you heard the event collad and
the scream, I kind of laughed out.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
You know what, Okay, I will say this. You know
what I thought I thought when she fell that somehow,
when Tate and Holly were walking, that she was gonna
fall in front of them. Like I was like, bracing
myself for because I was like, Okay, they're gonna walk out,

(01:33:48):
they're gonna talk in three two, and I kept expecting
to ah, but it didn't happen. I don't even know
where she ended up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
I don't think any one of the Other thing that
made me was Rafe's reaction when he came in Ari,
I'm so glad you're okay.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Mine was was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Like, was that the last scene they shot that day?
And it was just like everything was gone.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Mine was him yelling for Ari while she was stuck
hearing that it broke, and he's still just like what happened?
At any point, are you gonna be like, you know,
like go in more and like look around. But but

(01:34:40):
that's the that's the that's the interesting thing. There's always
like this delayed reaction. Like even going back to remember
when when mar Lena collapsed in the courtroom and and
there was there was like a worry in in in
Abe's voice, like mar Lena and everyone just went.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
And in the next scene they were in the hospital,
they had everything had happened, and she was awakened with Sarah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
It was a bit clunky, yeah, a little bit, a
little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:35:22):
What else he stole the necklace from Gwen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Yeah, yay, Yeah, I you know, I was somewhat on
her side about keeping it, but then I was also like,
just give it back. Yeah, she doesn't know with your
gay husband's money.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Yeah. The interaction between Gabby and Gabby and Gwen at
the end of the week was interesting for me in
terms of one, it was a recap of their history
because these two actually did have a double wedding once

(01:36:01):
upon a time. And then it was also a recap
of like I I thought that they were adversaries. I
guess I didn't think they hated each other that much.
It seemed I.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Was trying to remember. I was trying to remember the history.

Speaker 7 (01:36:14):
I know, it took me a minute to remember. I
was like, wait, why are they Yeah, I mean I
was so long ago.

Speaker 5 (01:36:20):
It was yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
Their adversarial relationship to me, did not need to be
quite that explicit, because you cannot like someone versus like
hating them, and they they don't have that. It was
It's like they maybe a prickly relationship at most. To me,

(01:36:48):
I think it was just a bit much this week.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
I kind of agree.

Speaker 7 (01:36:52):
When I think back, it was like it felt like
they picked up from like their last fight, which was
probably five years ago. You know it's like you're still
like arguing about this or like still there's still enough
rage in you to like go at each other. I
honestly was expecting them to like come together and like
laugh off Jake as like a silly thing, like oh
can you be like thought over that? Or how stupid

(01:37:14):
were we? Yeah, and then like come to I know,
I feel like those two would kind of be friends.
So we'll yeah, we'll see how long they take this
like this animosity between them, But I don't know, I
kind of like them better as friends or you know, frienemies.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
Yeah. I mean it would be different if it was
Abigail in this scenario because remember, once upon a time,
Gabby had to talk Abigail off the ledge because remember
she was gonna she kidnapped Gwen and it was gonna
shoot her up. M Yeah, and Gabby was the one
who had to say, girl, you're crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:37:50):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
I wonder if it's gonna be if what you're saying
about Gabby and Gwen like coming together and we haven't
talked about this, there's another storyline going on. Yeah that
that Gwen may become involved in with the other two Demira,

(01:38:14):
like now that she's in the Demera house, or Gabby
made fake befriend her, Yeah, because of what she's because
of what else is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Yeah, it's interesting to see the dynamics of who I think.
It's just rehashing. Gwen's history is kind of off killed
because it feels like we did just see Emily. She
was just not She was just not Gwen.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
M forgot.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
So then we have to go back and realize, oh,
she actually Gwen actually has been gone a while.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Yeah, she has, but she is. She has an airbout
her that is very much like I can do what
I want. I'm Avon Marshner with money. Do you have money?
You look poor.

Speaker 7 (01:39:10):
Poor around.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
And then quickly there's a little something going on with Hobby.
People are picking up on that Hobby seems to have
some kind of history that he is not telling Lee about.
Because Leo had that scene where he you know, he's late,
you know, where they met Gwen. He learned more about
his history, and then Leo's now talking to him about

(01:39:37):
Leon know why he felt he needed to help Doug
and all that, And then there was and then there
was that moment where he looked at Hobby and was
talking about, well, I'm an open book, and then Hobby
very much is like, well.

Speaker 7 (01:39:53):
Speaking of I had not.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
You got to open your book, so that way you
ain't mad? All right? Well that was that by the
come back, and it's hard to say goodbye, Ma, hard
to see you cram. Okay, Well, before we get into

(01:40:19):
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wrap this mother trucker up our haunting past.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
I'm so sorry I got ahead of myself. I did
not see that in the sorry I had jumped ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Didn't see the tidbit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Yeah, the tid and the bit. Uh wow, little miss
Rachel with Sarah time about Oh, I think McKinsey would
be a wonderful name, did think?

Speaker 7 (01:41:47):
I was like, I was like, something's not right. I
didn't get the whole Like I just thought of the
name or something. I was like, does she know more
than she says? Could go either way?

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
With Rachel, I felt like it was it was an
unexpected connection again because her and Rachel have this bond
that we all know where it could possibly stem from.
But when she said mackenzie, I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:42:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I was like with Rachel,
I don't know. I was like, is she like feeling
things out? Is she like trolling? Is she not trolling
in a bad way? But yeah, kind of hinting at something.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
That's the thing. With any other kid, you might think
it was a coincidence, but this is Rachel, so we
don't ever know.

Speaker 7 (01:42:42):
No, we got some softening with Leo and Gwen a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
I mean it's like, okay, girl, listen. I know that
there was some stunting chosen shenanigans, but it's not really
all Leo's fault, let's be clear. But also you got
the better end of the stick because you got all
the money, Like, can we just move on?

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Gwen had a reaction when Leo mentioned the Dear John
letter that what's his face? I can't remember his name now,
Dimitri Dmitri wrote him. She had a reaction and kind
of sidestepped talking about that. And then there was another
moment where they were talking about him, and I was like,

(01:43:31):
does she have is she stashing him somewhere like or
does she know where like? Or did she facilitate like huh,
well yeah, I'm like I'm wondering if either she knows
where Dmitri is or if she facilitated like the breakup
with Leo or or And then I'm like, oh, are

(01:43:53):
we getting are we going to get Dmitri back? At
some point?

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Well, there's a lot of questions, and I didn't. I
didn't necessarily think that there was a connection between these
two until the conversation between Gabby and Gwen came up,
and then I realized that not only are both of
their well one husband, one current husband, and one ex

(01:44:18):
husband missing, they were both kidnapped by Mommy or one
was kidnapped by mommy. One in my mind, I think
was taken by Mommy. We don't know where he where
he is. We don't know where Dmitri is in the world.
We know that Vivian has Stephan somewhere. Supposedly Vivian took

(01:44:39):
Stephan to Alamania, we have no confirmation if he is
geologically there. Dmitri, upon his release of prison, was supposed
to be in Alamania, but Gwen says she saw neither
one of them there, and she was there now. Timeline wise,
she would have been there for about two years.

Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
I do think it's suspicious too, and I think there
I do think this is building to something because we
also got they've been bringing up how this letter, who
was it? I think Leo even said like the letter
didn't sound like him, it sounded like someone else, or
he didn't specifically say someone else wrote it, but he
said it sound like maybe a five year old wrote
it or whatever, sort of hinting that someone else may

(01:45:22):
have penned. I can't remember. I thought it was you,
Michael who originally said that when it first happened that
Megan took him.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Was it you?

Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
Yeah, I think you're the one who actually said that
a couple of years ago, and we were like, oh,
maybe that it wasn't actually written by him when it
first came out, So I'm thinking there's some validity to that.
I think something is going on with Dimitri, and he's
not the one who broke this off with Leo. I
don't know if it was Megan. I don't know if
it's Gwen who has something to do with it, but

(01:45:52):
I think they're hinting yet there's something fishy about this,
because it's come up a lot now.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Yeah, yeah, but there's definitely something fishy going on. But
I didn't previously consider Gwen. Upon hearing Michael's reasoning, I
think that maybe she might have something to do with it,
because I don't see Megan Hathaway allowing Gwen to abscond

(01:46:16):
with the volition or fortune mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (01:46:21):
Well, if if Gwen gave her a cutchy kid, because
Dmitri may not have gotten it anyway, Remember that was
the discrepancy. Yea, he was going to get the money.
So if Gwen, if the agreement is keep him occupied
in you know, check maybe mm hmm yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Some people just have too much time on their hands. Anyways,
there was a comment that we had to and then
we started getting tech about the comment and it's taken
care of.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
Oh I missed it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Oh you missed the comment. Uh in the chat So
you're being you're being too loud. No, I'm sorry. You
were annoying. I was boring and RSL was too loud.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Justin you did, justin?

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
You didn't register on this person.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
I'm not even drinking today.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
No, it was a bowld. It was some you know,
yeah hater.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
You know I wouldn't. I wouldn't have removed him.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
I do, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
I'm I would have. I would have. I would have
let him in at the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
Bottom of the bowl that needed to be flushed.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Although I did anyway, whatever, people, I just don't have
time for my My mental capacity is already at as
high as because mercury decided to be in a microwave.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
In any case, do we think what do we think
we'll get? You know, all these other people will get
info on downline, but I didn't think that somebody that
we would have to be worried about would be Hobby.

Speaker 7 (01:48:14):
I think we've kind of hinted it, or not hinted,
but we've kind of questioned that from the beginning. How
it's we don't know anything about his past. The relationship
has been going very fast, and I feel like we
even mentioned it. I think it was last week with
the picture when he quickly brought out that picture the
first time, we were like, well, whose baby is at?

(01:48:35):
So I don't know, maybe this is a storyline they're
going down where we finally get a little bit. We
got a little bit of his work history with the
fire fighting stuff, but that's it. I mean for someone
who has constant conversations with Leo about it, it's so
it's due.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
The personal life stuff. Still, yeah, my question mark?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Yeah, all right, Well to our next tidbit, which is
dun't secret age and my Gabby and Tony working together
to take down philipp and Xander. Can we also start
off with the fact that Johnny still has a job

(01:49:16):
even though he's on trial for He's never at work.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Literally, he's been at work for five minutes to shoot
that video with I laughed at the camera. I was like,
Titan doesn't have a better camera than that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
But never.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
But yeah, every day he's at home and being like, well,
not going to work today, Well didn't go to And
I'm like, I get fired if that word this man.
They're having mercy on him, So.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Must be nice to have money. I have to worry
about things like getting fired. I guess it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
But this is this is interesting with Tony and Gabby.
I like though that she was kind of like, you know,
Xander showed me a lot of compassion, so I don't
want to like.

Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
M hm, you know, for a two mecids.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
And then it was like uh.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
On one hand, I think it's like a little too
good to be true, But I do think I do
appreciate the fact that at least Tony is acknowledging one
how long she was at Demira to the fact that
she ran uh Demirah before and everyone was kind of
on board for the most part, So like part of

(01:50:40):
me is like, is this like a good idea. Really,
are we trusting Tony here? Is there like some shadiness
and back or does he just really want it in
the family And it's like, my brothers are idiots. They're
not wanted, you know. EJ's out Chat doesn't want anything
to do with it. Kristen is a lost cause like
should be. You know, next best person is Gabby at

(01:51:01):
least she's kindred, you know, to being a demiro. I
don't know, and he wants he does want a little
you know, he wants to be an advisor, which is okay,
but I don't know. There's something about this that I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
I mean, I think Gabby has a great he has
always had a great business sense, and I think people
don't see that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean Gabby's whole reasoning for agreeing to
Tony's terms, I think at its core is that well no,
but no deeper than that. Why she can make the
deal with Tony in particular is because Tony, as far
as demeras go, Tony is a trustworthy one. But I
feel like Tony is up to something. I'm getting a

(01:51:53):
vibe from Tony, like I think, surface wise, I think
his terms are fair and I believe him when he
says he doesn't want to be you know, he never
wants to be CEO. He never wants to be the
head of the company. He never wants to be telling
people what to do. But I don't know, there's just something, Yeah,

(01:52:13):
something something for me is just can we.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Please not have another? Oh it's actually Andre.

Speaker 7 (01:52:20):
I I think hopefully we're done with it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
So Tony is allowed to be a little bit diabolical.
It doesn't have to be just like when Marlena does
something cross it's because she's possessed, or because she was drugged,
or because blah blah blah. Like let some of these
characters branch out of what their personality is and don't
make it Oh it's someone else, or it's because of

(01:52:44):
accentuates circumstances.

Speaker 7 (01:52:46):
I mean Tony's also, I mean it's history. He's not
a saint. I mean, he's not as bad as Andre,
but he's he's been diabolical before in and all that
kind of stuff. So yeah, mhm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
All right, Well we'll see how that works out. Who's
going to turn on who first, who's going to be
a faithful and who's going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
A bringing Krishelle. Oh wait, she didn't host it, she
was on it. Alan Coming, Oh bringing Allen coming? You
can Tony you met him? I know, yeah, your your
one of your shows.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
Yeah. He came to drag me to dinner. Yeah yeah,
oh hey Benby Benmy's like, maybe you go all over time.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
We're hurrying up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Let's move on to our next tidbit, which is strike
a deal. Oh, there we go. This is the first
time I've seen a bit of kindness between Sarah Xander
and I actually appreciate it. It feels like the love
is not lost, although in the same breath it's like, well,
if we're gonna have a formal agreement, we got to separate.
I'm like, yeah, y'all just don't want this, y'all. Y'all

(01:54:03):
don't want this couple to survive.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
They can't like looking back, like the writing has been
on the wall for a long time. As much as
we want to root for this couple, they just did.
They have proven themselves untrustworthy, knew each other. Unfortunately, like
they're there if they were to try to save it
and go to therapy like you know it it Unfortunately,

(01:54:25):
they just created this situation. It's not in my mind
that kind of marriage would not be survivable.

Speaker 7 (01:54:34):
I think it's telling though, that it's not divorce, it's
a separation, and they're making that distinction. So I feel
like there's they're at least still holding onto some hope
that they're getting married. Otherwise it would be we're getting
divorced or divorced. So like none of neither one of
them has come up with that first or said anything
to that, so I think there's some hope there, at

(01:54:55):
least at least for the characters there. They don't want
to take that step as much as even they've been
of those throats. They're like, you know, we haven't gotten
to that point yet.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
True, the situation shouldn't have gotten to this point.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
Yeah, but this is the first week that they're actually
taking appropriate steps for their own health, for the sake
of their marriage, whatever state it may be in, for
the sake of their daughter. These are appropriate steps, and
it's four steps and anger management therapy. While Sarah has

(01:55:32):
definitely has her own agenda for it, I do think
it is going to be very beneficial for Xander because
I think it will help him get to the root
of a lot of his anger and why, what triggers him?
What are his triggers and how can he how can

(01:55:53):
he temper that down and come to terms with that
so that he's not so quick to anger.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
We know his history, like his mom and with Victor,
but I feel like his Xander has a kind of
past that can be can still be growed that's not right,
can still grow a little bit, if that makes sense,
Like they can die. If they continue with this and
he does go to therapy, they can dive into we

(01:56:20):
can make more discoveries about Xander's past, Like there's not
like it's not like a John Black character where they
delved into his past so much where it got to
the point where it's like we know his history with Xander,
there's still some maybe question marks to be explored.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
So possibly, but I don't think that we necessarily need
to discover something new about Xander because his what we
know so far about his past is already rife with possibility.
Because just because we know it and just because he's
acknowledged it doesn't equate with coming to terms with his past.

(01:57:00):
You know, saying it out loud doesn't mean oh it's over,
and I've I've gotten over it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
In other words, no, but I just see potential in.

Speaker 11 (01:57:11):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
But you you know, just him, yeah, him looking into
why he is the way he is. Like, I feel
like there's a potential potential and a good story for that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Oh yeah, all right. Well, last, but not least in
our tidbit, a hostile work environment, which can sometimes be this.

Speaker 3 (01:57:32):
Environment, which is always the environment that works in.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
EJ needs to get somewhere and sit down like, Okay, bro,
you bought the hospital, great, but you won't get to
come in and at like suddenly you have a PhD
in hospital.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
News, hospital management.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
It's like girl trying to take care of his office.

Speaker 1 (01:57:54):
Right Like that could have that could have been a zoon.
You could have met in the Horton town Square. Yep,
you could have met. Don't they have a conference room
in the hospital. You can you can use the conference room.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
They couldn't have used that entire floor that they were
using for the show. What they do with that floor?
Did they? Did we?

Speaker 5 (01:58:12):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
Did they turn it back into a working yes?

Speaker 3 (01:58:16):
So I'll be honest. Off this whole scene confused me
because the the back and forth between Kayla and e
J One it went on way longer than it needed
to tow. It left me confused, like did Kayla resign
or did she not?

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
No, she did because because she backed down, because because
Kayla was like, baby, listen, you ain't about to come
in here and run this. I'm chief of staff. You
may own this, but this hospital is going to be
ran like I wanted to be. And if you can't take.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
That, baby, they just said, okay, so should I set
up in my office?

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
And so that was it was just all I think
I think in that in that moment, EJ realized, yeah, okay,
let me let me keep it cute. Is it okay?
If I use your office? That was that was his
way of and that's why she picked up the badge
and was basically like uh huh yeah. I was like

(01:59:15):
because she was like, baby, I can retire today and
be fine. Okay, my man got two jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
Okay, yeah, sure he's retirement. She's loving off of.

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
That was just a call back to everybody hates Chris
when Rochelle would always be like, I don't need this.
My man got two jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
Okay, yeah, because I was gonna say, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure that Steve is the one who has
the hefty retirement package.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
That's why I had to explain it, because you were
gonna come in Witharry. That was gonna be wrong. I
was like, let me explain the joke because you know,
new material, and then announced Stephan's over pr which I
I mean, I like Stephanie Sai last week, Like I
appreciate what she was saying is like listen, I can
be a part of it to kind of like keep

(02:00:04):
him on track, you know.

Speaker 7 (02:00:08):
So I like it just because it's like, these two
came onto the show together, and but for what fifteen
years ago, we haven't seen them, well a little bit
maybe like ten years ago when Shelley was playing Stephanie.
But they have such a rich history themselves. I feel
like there's some stuff to explore with them, which I
think could be interesting.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
He did once lock her in a morgue.

Speaker 7 (02:00:30):
Yeah, I'm saying yeah. But for two characters who came in,
they sort of came in together. He knew that they
were rivals back then, and then they sort of like
split them up and they put EJ with Sammy and
they put her with the older, you know, the younger
twenty somethings, and that was it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
Oh wait, they were rivals when they were race card
drivers drivers.

Speaker 7 (02:00:51):
Yeah, they came breaking on the show together as rivals.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
Yeah yeah, way, way, way, way way in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
Oh yeah, she was a redhead.

Speaker 7 (02:00:57):
Yeah yeah, m M.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:01:02):
What do we think the original excerpt that Stephanie doesn't
want out there? What do we who?

Speaker 2 (02:01:12):
Do?

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
We think it's inspired by something that she did, But
I'm not necessarily sure it's something that she did. I
think she pulled from somebody else, from somebody, from somebody
in her family.

Speaker 7 (02:01:24):
I immediately thought phill up, But then I was like,
why the big deal? But I don't It seems like
but but to your case and maybe in someone else's,
because she seems really reticent about it. So I was like, oh,
is it really just something she did with fill up?

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
Like maybe she put in one too many details about
someone else's life that she's not supposed to know about.
Kind of a thing.

Speaker 1 (02:01:44):
Yeah, that could be something that she did. Yeah, all right, Well,
hopefully the hostile work environment becomes hostile non hostile. But now,
ladies and gentlemen, that has been your week of days,
and now it's time to get on with our segments,
and we're gonna start with mine, which is Tony's official

(02:02:08):
three Snaps of Waves. All right now, listen, My three
snaps goes to Kayla Johnson Mary Beth Evans because maybe
she was not playing about that resignation. She said, you're
not about to come up in this office and try
to add like, I know you threw your money around,
just get this hospital, but let's not forget I am

(02:02:32):
chief of staff, Kayla Johnson. What are your credentials? Because
I can retire today and be out. Oh okay, yes,
I was living for all of that. When she snatched
that badge off and she had slid it on that

(02:02:53):
desk and looked back at him, I was like, Kayla
does not give two about an EJ Damara mm hmm.
And when he backed down and she snatched it back
and went back to work, I said, you better work.
So for those reasons, Chief of Staff, Kayla Johnson Mary

(02:03:15):
Beth Evans, you get Tony's official Sodase Snaps Awards, and
that it was time for.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Tention that this week's caption. That photo comes courtesy of
the Awkward Doug and Holly Hug reminiscent of the Nicole
and Xander photo and the look on her face was
like mother like daughter. This week's caption goes to James

(02:03:46):
Robinson on Twitter with his excuse me, James Robinson on
Instagram with his caption Holly. Later that day, where's my wallet?
Honorable mentioned Holly herself, Ashley pozem Us with her caption
me seeing those six am work call times, and honorable

(02:04:10):
mention to Jerry Menez, who replied to that comment with same,
I don't know what, same closed eyes emoji.

Speaker 1 (02:04:20):
Yes. So, because those call times are early, wake up
at three am to get there.

Speaker 2 (02:04:26):
You got to be there at six.

Speaker 1 (02:04:27):
At six, that's one of those.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
Times where you just you roll out of bed, you
spramp a little bit, and just what they get is
what they get.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
Yeah, it's like but luckily with a job like that,
it's like it's like you can just roll out of bed,
grab your bag and just head out the door.

Speaker 7 (02:04:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:04:46):
It's everything when you get there.

Speaker 1 (02:04:48):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
So thanks Paul, and thank you Sherry and Ashley for
for playing along.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
Yeah, and that.

Speaker 3 (02:04:59):
Great this week. I mean they've passed a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
And that was tention that and now it's time to
go back to.

Speaker 7 (02:05:18):
Al right, guys, taking you back to July twenty first,
nineteen ninety seven, when Roman Brady in the form of
Josh Taylor, returned to Salem after being presumed missing. He
of course, was brought back to Salem courtesy of Christen Deverra.
This was sort of her last ditch effort to break
up John and Marlena after the Susan sor the tobacco
here and then we say, this is the introduction of

(02:05:39):
Josh Taylor's version of Roman. And if you're a paid member,
I did it. Those were days extended specifically on the
three Romans over the last forty something years, and how
each of them brought something new and different to the role.
So yeah, just kind of wanted to celebrate that and
celebraty Josh Taylor, I think does not get enough credit,
who actually has been playing Roman a majority of those

(02:06:02):
forty something years, more so than the other two actors combined.
So so yeah, I just want to bring it back
to July twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, when Josh Taylor
original or not Rije but stepped into the role of
Roman Brady.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
And now, oh well, it's Kristen's smile like surprise surprise.

Speaker 7 (02:06:32):
You thought I was out and I brought guess who.

Speaker 2 (02:06:35):
Oh we definitely did turn that into an art form. Yeah,
just shit ass grin.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
Yeah, it was very much like, oh you thought y'all
was about to get mad? Yeah, surprise, surprise, And that
was time for It's a Game.

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
And next week's It's a Gift goes to Carson Boatman
playing Johnny Demara and his reaction into realizing that Grandma
Susan is going to be his savior. This is all
so my reaction to Johnny Demia thinking that after this
trial he will still have a job.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
Yes, this is also my reaction to Mercury's retrograde. Oh
you're here, great, all right, love that, Love that for you.
And that was It's a Game, and now it's time

(02:07:41):
for news and gossip.

Speaker 7 (02:07:49):
All right. Starting off with a big, big congratulations to
our Day's family. They haven't heard. They have been renewed
for another two years of bringing to their sixty second
in sixty third season and with their very early taping schedule,
they we will not have shows into twenty twenty eight
because of that, So they congrats Todays on securing another

(02:08:13):
renewal for another two years so hey, everyone has jobs including.

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
Okay, that was actually my reaction was that, hey, I
still have I still have the position for at least
another four years. Yeah, all right, next step. We've got
lots of birthdays, lots of birthdays we're celebrated this week,
So shout outs to Lindsay Goffrey, our very own Lucas

(02:08:46):
Adams now and Lucas Adams. Sorry I lost my train
of thought for a second, you know, in that half
and Lucas Adams. And then we have today is our
birthday twins as I like to call them, Eric Martzof
and Martha madd Sin. Happy birthday to all who are celebrating.
I hope you have fabulous time. And another person who

(02:09:07):
recently celebrated her fortieth birthday in May, Miss Emily O'Brien,
got us a sneak behind the scenes peak at her
costume ball birthday party. She decided to do it up
for her fortieth and she celebrated with a big costume

(02:09:27):
party going back to the eighteen hundreds as the Queen
of Versailles. Those in attendance from our day's family were
Paul Telfer, Lindsay Godfrey, Tim Rabron, Stacy Haiduke and Peter Porte.
It's a fabulous video. I can't imagine the production detail
that went into this. Even though it's a backyard party,

(02:09:49):
the detail is just so go check out the birthday
video on Emily's Instagram at m Roya.

Speaker 8 (02:09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:09:58):
Next up, we have some news from francisc Is Judy Evans.
She's embarking on a brand new sort of side career hustle.
Here she is entering into the world to stand up comedy.
She took a risk and open mic a few weeks
ago and now has entered a new comedy competition. So
this Wednesday, if you're in LA and in need of
some lefts, she is participating in a comedy again competition

(02:10:21):
at Flapper Comedy Club this Wednesday, July here in LA.
Tickets and info you can go to Judy's bio on
her Instagram at Judy Evans Official. I'm sure she will
appreciate yeah the support there.

Speaker 3 (02:10:36):
And then next up, we've got some upcoming days for
the Day Players. The Day Players continuing their twenty twenty
five tour. Their first big show coming up will be
this coming Friday, August first here in Glendale, Califia.

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
Glendale every time.

Speaker 3 (02:10:56):
Yes, Yes, Glendale. Then they have a big show scheduled
in Toronto September sixth, with dates following in Cedar, Rapids,
Des Moines, and o Maha. For tickets and information, go
to the day Players band dot com.

Speaker 7 (02:11:15):
And of course we have our Starstruck fan events. We
have the one happening next Sunday, August third, and Long
Beach Stars at Attendant's Tale, Pengless lay and Hunley, Susan Hayes,
Brian Ditillo, and Susanne Rogers. I believe there may be
a couple of tickets still available, they were sort of
winding down this week. If interested, you can DM at
Starstruck Fan two or email Startruk Fans at aol dot

(02:11:37):
com for information and those last couple of tickets. If interested,
then of course we have the Orlando one that is
happening now. We scheduled to September nineteenth through twenty first,
that weekend those intended Stacy I do Casey moss Cherimanez
Potel for Linda Godfrey, Matt Ashford and Brian Ditillo. And
then we have a save the date for a fan
event happening in Stone Mountain Park in Georgia or later

(02:12:00):
on this year the weekend of December thirteenth through fourteenth on.
For that one, talent and details are coming soon and
tickets to information you can go to Starstrukfanevents dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
Yes, and then we have our events through Star Image Entertainment.
First up, it will be this Wednesday, July thirtieth. This
is a Passion's Q and a Cocktail Zoom with Galen
Gerring and his Passion's Coach Star Mackenzie Wesmore. Then it
will be the Big Show which the day Players will
be partnered with Starr michfour. That'll be in Toronto September sixth,

(02:12:34):
and then in October October fourth and fifth, specifically at
the Holiday in Nashville Downtown Stadium is the Days of
Our Lives in Nashville event. So that's a big one
for all of you people in the area. If you
want to go to any of these events, go to
event bright dot com slash Star Image Entertainment.

Speaker 7 (02:12:53):
And let's been not least, we have our sumiitin Friends
events for starting off the Hauntit mitche one the weekend
of September thirteenth tough fourteen and again as we said,
they added Caroline Hennessy and Camila Bandos to the roster.
Then we have The Wizarding World of Harry Potter the
weekend of May second and third on that lineup has
been announced, you can see. And then for I sort

(02:13:14):
of saved the date. Talent and details to come soon.
We have the Arabian Nights one, which is happening next
year the weekend of September twelfth and thirteenth of twenty
twenty six. I'll take it to info. You can go
to Samantha's Friends dot org.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
And that was new then God, and now it's time
to find out what's coming up this week on Peacock's
Days of Our Lives.

Speaker 2 (02:13:47):
Next week it's all strange lives.

Speaker 7 (02:13:49):
We fancies a self a medium when you talk to
the dead, I sure do.

Speaker 2 (02:13:52):
I had a dream, God bang the Queen's.

Speaker 1 (02:13:54):
Too strained relationships.

Speaker 7 (02:13:56):
Sandor and I made a decision about our marriage and
the effects.

Speaker 5 (02:14:02):
We fight Sire's fire.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
We fight Sire awesome. And that's only the beginning.

Speaker 7 (02:14:07):
There's a reason stef is known as the Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (02:14:10):
That is very very She said that I was ill
body mind and.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
Only days of our Lives, only one oh mm hmm,
Body and Soul.

Speaker 7 (02:14:22):
Huh. I just I know I didn't get.

Speaker 1 (02:14:30):
The return to Body and Soul, y'all, so we just
got renewed.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
We get Possession number three before Body and Soul number two.
Buddy and Soul number two, get it.

Speaker 7 (02:14:47):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
Oh anyway, well that has been everybody before we head out.
Michael Maddis, where can I find you?

Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
You can find me on Instagram and X at mL
Mattis or MLM images La.

Speaker 1 (02:15:04):
Justin Lee Harold Me Instagram at Justin Lee Harold r
Sally Avers.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
Can find me on Instagram and Twitter at TA three
two three out of SELLI and you.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
Guys can find us at Edition Day Show on Oh Well.
You can find me on all social media platforms at
Lounge with Toni and you can find us at Edition
Day Show on Facebook, Edition Days on Instagram, Twitter, xend threads.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in. Special shout
out to Rachel Boyd Sophia Choice for coming on and
chatting with us all things Sophia. Hey. We will be

(02:15:37):
back here next Sunday to give you another full dish
of this week's episodes of Peacocks. Exclusive Number one Award
winning hits, soap oper days of our lives. Thank you
guys again for tuning in and as always, have a
wonderful week. Enjoy your Sunday and join us next week.
Tell a friend, y'all come on in now you're here.

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