The Gala!! Dishin' Days week of Nov 10th-14th 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's time to start Titian Days with your host Tony Moore,
Michael Madis, Justin, Lee Harrold and Atta Saddi Adoles and
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(03:09):
highlight I will highlight you in the chat. Hey chat.
We usually started asking what we think, but I think,
you know, let's just jump right into it this week
because I think we this week can wait of a
lot of plot, but I think we a couple of
things we do have some strong opinions on we will
get into later, but let's just jump into our storylines

(03:30):
this week. There was a lot to get into. Even
though there was a ton of movement and plot. There
were a lot a lot of characters on the screen
this week. So we're gonna jump right in with our
first story.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
We gotta be like, what are we what are we
doing here? It's time to start?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh god, yes, totally forgot about Like Michael.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Still wants to get through this show.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
He's forgetting No, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, let's just
jump right on it. But yeah, it is now time
to start two three. You guys see that set it
and forget it, putting it right over here, and we
are starting with our top story here, which is Baby Shopper.

(04:18):
Of course is I was gonna nickname this Hurricane Sammy,
but I kind of wanted to do it by the
events of the week just so that I can get everyone.
There were so many people on screen.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
She's she's not Hurricane Sammy anymore. She's like, she's not
Hurricane she doesn't like bust into town and wreak havoc.
She's like the new She's like the new Sammy. The
therapy is working, and you know, she's she's not Hurricane
Sammy anymore.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
She's like.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
She's driving rain Sammy.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know. Yeah. Or so we think we have some
new there's some questions here. I think we'll see yeah,
but this is of course Sammy, Johnny Chanel, E J. Will,
This was Eric, this was Roman, Marlena Lucas, Rave, Paulina
a Eli, Lawnie, Hobby and Leo. Pretty much everything going
on with the baby shower of John Paul Demira. So

(05:10):
what did you guys think of Sammy and in this
this baby shower that I'm glad we actually got to see.
I was scared it was gonna be one of those
that they just reference and we never actually get to
see it. And then you know, half of Salem was there,
but we never saw anything.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
I have one nitpicky guys. You can go to any
major supermarket right now and get a big sheet cake
with enough cake for everyone for thirty six ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
But they don't. Got caught.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Okay, that would have been a price Town cake.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
That would have been did not want.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
A price Town, so they gotta get it, and they
got to get a little cake.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
From Sweet Bits mm hmmm for probably not thirty six right,
Like you could.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
At least like you could make it like a double layer.
I just.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
There was probably enough cake for the people that eat
cake in that room, so there was probably.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
There's also that part like there's always left over cake,
right whenever there's one of those cheetcakes, there's always there's
people shoving cake in.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Your face like, hey, I have some cake. Even if
you don't remember the sheetcake from our party that we
still had. I was worried it wasn't going to be enough,
and then we still have left over. Yeah, so what
I have to say. I really love this Sammy, this visit.
I think in the past I've been a little critical

(06:42):
about the last few visits where they've gotten I'm gonna
be okay.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
So this is the first show I've been on where
like the comments got pictures now, like all.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Of our yeah have changed.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
That's so yeah, because street Yard I love it. Yeah,
oh god, now we have pictures when we see the
comment Hey everyone, Hey, oh that is new. Yeah, it's
the yeah, the lower yeah, the other lower third we
saw last week when it was happening, I was like, wait,
what's going on? But I didn't want to say anything.
I was like, maybe it's just me because street Yard
is always weird on my computer. But no, it's yeah,

(07:23):
oh yeah, we can see pictures now. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Well I always you know, we we haven't gotten to
see enough of Sammy as a grandma. I think just
because she became a grandma so young and the drama
was still always surrounding her and the kids, it was
never necessarily we never got to see what sit me
is like as an actual grandma. So I love the

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little scenes not just with her like embracing her new grandchild,
but you know, she's got this grown grandchild standing right
there calling her Gig, and I thought that was cute.
That's that's I always thought. I thought we thought it
was going to be Grammy Sammy, but Gig's cute.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah. I think in the past they've like, like I said,
I've been a little critical about like bringing her in
and then she like drops in and then she doesn't.
You know, she'll have a conversation with like one or
two people. I thought this was the best use of
her in the last few years where they got her
in again. Alison Sweeney is incredibly busy. She loves to
come back to days, but it all, you know, scheduling
can be a lot. So I think fitting her in

(08:24):
and really giving this having her throw the baby shower, interacting,
having her at the gallow which I was surprised to
see too. I was like, Okay, we'll get her at
the baby shower and then she'll disappear and we won't
see her at the gallop, but we got they packed
it in and I hope when they move forward with
her that they do more stuff like this where it's
like maximized the time that you have with this person
if if you know, the time is very limited. So

(08:45):
I was, I was pleasantly surprised about this, this particular business.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
They hit the right beats with her, even got a
you know with Kate for a moment.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Which I know, yeah, I guess, you know.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
I always look forward to her and Kate like you know,
picking each other. But they've they've grown, they've gone.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Past it there.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I did like their last interaction when she like if
they sat down in the puff for a minute and
they were like not snarky to each other, but they
were being snarky together about like Rave and who was
it a little bit about Jada kind of in there.
I did like that.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Part less like who told Kate was like, don't you
kind of work here? Can you go get me?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Like okay, no, I like I was worried about the
Lucas stuff. I I I actually I'm glad. I like
the way they handled that.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, well for for I mean for as quick as
Sammy's visit was. They were so meticulous and making sure
she had like tiny little scenes with everybody, with Eric,
with Will, with rafe with Lucas with her parents, some
snark with Belle like some like joyful Little Sea, back

(10:00):
and forth with EJ Like it was like boom boom,
boom boom. And with a lesser actress you couldn't do that.
Like Alie Sweetey is such a pro that she comes in,
does what she has to do, and then jumps right
back out.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Right, and she can do She's been playing this character
for thirty years, so yeah, she's honed that skill over
time where.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
She yes, but I think yeah, but even.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
With other characters, with everybody and pop out.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, but like even with other characters, like so many
characters popped in this week that oftentimes when that happens,
you know they've been off the canvas for a while.
They have to do a little homework and say, okay,
who remind me who I'm related to? What's been going
on with these people in the meantime, And you can
kind of tell. It's kind of like they're kind of
like playing, oh, how are you kind of a thing,

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and she's like, boom boom boom, I know what's going
on with everybody? I know who I'm related. Like it's
just when it's done we're good.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I have a little anecdote about that. I won't go
on too long.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Leanne Hunley mentioned that one time when we were speaking
to her about how when they bring her back, she
needs to talk to a friend of hers who watches.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
The show caught Up and he's like.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Oh yeah, and my friend was talking about, oh, Carrie
is doing this, and she was like, and I asked her,
who's Carrie?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And my friend was like her daughter, Oh right, I
haven't right, yes Carrie.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, So like.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Even the most seasoned that need you know, needs some
reminding because you know, they trained themselves to kind of
ingest everything. And then yeah, so but that was that
was funny. That just reminded me of that conversation Who's Carrie.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's one of the things too. You don't know how
people like refer to each other, Like I'm probably sure
if the woman said Christy, she'd probably get it, because
she said Carrie. It was like, wait, who's Carrie?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Like, yeah, who's Carrie?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
But yeah, it was you know, just overall, it was
nice to see the all of the Poppins this week.
We'll call them a very appropriate Poppins too, Like always
nice to see.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Lannie and Eli. You know Lannie and Eli.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
And it's Chandler Massey. I cannot have an eighteen nineteen
year old daughter.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Like I'm like, there's the same age. Like they come
in and I'm like, this.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Is like Lisa Reena and Lauren Coslo all over again,
like a younger. I'm like, he just looks he's just well,
a of all, I hate him for still looking like
he did ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
He must diet and work out and take care of
himself whatever.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
But i mean, Sherry have a daughter that that young either.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Just no, yeah, he's not that far off from being old.
I mean, you know, I know the sourust Ari but
even I mean he's Chamdler's like mid thirties.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Talor, but with Chadler, both
with both Chandler and Sherry, there's like a fifteen year
difference with them and Marissa. It's not it's not as
big as you think it is. So it's not that
yeah yeah yeah, yeah, so it's not it's not hugely
but like a couple of.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Years later, no, no, they because they look so young.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, but it's yeah, angry, it's it's so it's unfair.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
I feel like Chandler had the facial hair to try
to make himself look yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I was like, no, fe like wardrobe the last couple
of visits have been dressing him a lott, trying to
make him look a little older. I feel like, think, yeah,
especially it's like, yeah, you have an eighteen year old
daughter on the show. It's like, yeah, you need to
look a little older than than what what you appears.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
The part with Sammy that's been mentioned in the chat
and that we we haven't talked about is that she's engaged.
She's engaged to a batally. She's engaged to a battally
of Italian We I have never heard about this man,
we don't does not have the ties, the family tie,
the mob ties.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, so that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah. I was kind of a funny thing enough. I
when we saw in the preview, I think we the
clip they showed had her mentioned of fiance, and so
I immediately thought like, oh, did they put her and Lucas together?
I was like, am I like, you know, getting excited
for something. I thought like maybe that would be a possibility.
And then when that first scene I was like, Okay,
she thought engaged to him. I was like, interesting like

(14:37):
turn of events to I'm It's like, I don't are
you Is this just like the little tidbit that is
going to come back later or is this just like
we want to throw something at the wall, Because again,
I feel like we're still getting to know these new
writers and we're trying to understand how they operate. And
I feel like sometimes I think in the past, whenever

(14:58):
something comes up, we immediately think, oh, this person's going
to be on the show, where if they mentioned a
family member, And I think what we found with them
the last few months is that no, sometimes they just
like to fill in the scene with history or fill
in the scene like someone's life with either events or
other people. So again, I'm not sure if this will
be a plot point moving forward or this just something

(15:21):
we're gonna We're gonna incorporate this into Sammy's history to
make her more fuller for the for the return. You know,
I don't know yet. I'm wondering.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
I suspect that this particular move was very was very
well thought out as a potential backdoor, because everybody's either
confused or critical of this, like why is she engaged
to someone we've never heard of, we've never met. And
here here's what I will say to that. Allison Sweeny
cannot come back full time. She has a full time career.

(15:54):
She makes time to come back to the show when
she can. But it's good to give Sammy a reason
not to come home, because when your entire family, including
your grown children, don't live in the same country as you,
you kind of have to create a reason for her
to still be living in another country. So that's one point.

(16:18):
The other point being if creating a new vitally still
kind of keeps that Salem tie, it keeps in that
tie to Italy, and it kind of opens the back
door if they want to explore that at a later time.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
H Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
So it's kind of like it's it's it's it's a connection,
but it's not too much of a connection that it
feels like we need to give Ali Sweeny a full
force story right now that she cannot commit to.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Mm hmm, yeah it did. It did throw me off
because I'm like, okay, well, none of now Ava's not
on the show, Tripp and Wendy on on the show,
Like there's no fatally, at least immediate connection. Yet that
can all change who knows in the future. But funny
thing enough is when she said the name, even though
I heard her say Dante vitally, I immediately thought, do you

(17:15):
remember the mob family, the Maronis A man it was?
I thought she said Dante Morone like I heard it
as Dante Moronian. I was like, Oh my god, they're
bringing them back for some reason. And then like she
mentioned it again. It took me a minute to like,
you know, reconcile what the name was, but yeah, I
immediately thought I heard like Dante Moronian. I thought, oh god,
they're going to bring like and then I thought, oh,

(17:37):
they bring you like Brandon back because he was with
the daughter Angela who was killed. And I was like, oh,
is this like a way to bring.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Brand But they massacred that that coronation. They mastered that family.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
And and then the dad went out and shot himself.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, hey, well done. And I thought of all that instantly.
In those like ten seconds, I thought I heard her
say Dante Maroney and I was like, oh God, they're
bringing the Maroni family back. Like that's a really obscure reference,
but okay. And then I was like, okay, the fatally
so so many mob families, So I know I was like, Okay,
we'll see and I did get the impression. Though like again,

(18:16):
we've seen, we've seen the character of Sammy on this
like journey. She's been getting therapy. I'm not one hundred
percent sold though yet. I think she's saying things. But
like again, we got the whole it's only been two months.
We got the she's rushing off and again I realized
some of it maybe just feed for plot to get

(18:37):
her out of here, but it's also like, why are
you rushing off for these amazing plans with your Sammy is.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
An incurable romantic. The woman has had more wedding dresses
and she's had marriages the way.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Is she a romantic or is she co Is she
one of those that's just dependent on men for happy.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know you know what I mean? Like she needs
there people that.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
You need an actual therapist to dissect, but one or
the other either way, you know, I would say we
didn't get hurricane Sammy this time around. It was more
like a tropical storm Sammy. You know, you wonder if
it's going to turn into a hurricane, and when it
does it you're kind of relieved.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
But then also you know it's the same way, like
you're she's coming to visit for like a day and
a half, right, I know when I go back to Ohio,
I maybe not be like the real Michael for a
couple of days, you know what I mean, because you know,
after you get settled, then the you know, yeah, everybody

(19:44):
you're happy.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Like if if Sammy came back, and like if Sammy came.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Back for for a longer period of time, I feel
like we would get Hurricane Sammy back eventually. But yeah,
I think some people think it's all enact and that
she's actually up to no good and just you know,
putting on, putting on a show for everybody.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
But I think she's I do think like the therapy
has helped. I think like she's grown a bit. I
just I'm not sold that she like she's she's tackled
all her issues because I think, like another you know,
one of her biggest issues has always been men, and
like it seems like she's falling into this trap. And
it it's funny in a way because she's telling us

(20:24):
he's a good guy, and he very well maybe a
good guy, but you can still you can still repeat
those mistakes with a good guy too, you know what
I mean, Like it doesn't have to he doesn't have
to be horrible. He can still be a good guy.
And you're still like rushing into things. You're still getting
taken aback by his power, influence or money or whatever
it is he's offering. So I don't know, we will

(20:46):
curious to see what we're what others, Sammy, we're going
to get in the future when whenever we see since
Sweeny again.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
But do we know, like this was her We knew
she was coming back for a minute, and then we
knew she was coming back again.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
So this was the again.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I think this will be again.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah, but so as of now this was we as
of what we know, we think this is.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
As far as we know, this is the second And now.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
She doesn't come back unless they've unless they're not gonna
unless they've listened to Tony, and they're not gonna release information.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
They're not releasing information. Okay, And I actually do want
to address this because this brought This was brought up
several several times on social media, and I think this
was brought up also in our chat when we did
our live for the sixtieth anniversary that the point was
made that, you know, because there was no day of
days this year. We usually get a big promo around
this time, and we haven't got one. Guys, I don't

(21:38):
know what's coming, you know. We again, we collectively don't
know the extent of what's coming. But guys, the amount
of stuff that was talked about just this week, I
predict we'll get a big video teaser sued. If they're
not releasing it right now, they're probably holding it for

(22:01):
a reason. So stop complaining, please, I.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Mean, just in general, like we have obviously we have our.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Fair share of criticisms and complaints and whatnot, but god,
like this past couple of weeks, it's just been like
nothing can make some of these people happy.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah, oh my gosh, there's too many demors, too many hortons,
not enough demerors, not enough hortons. Where's the promo? Why
didn't release it? And I'm like, there are reasons for things.
They don't have to explain everything to you.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I just assume we'll get like a New Year's
promo thing kind of.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Yeah, this we were leading all the way up to
this to this week, so let's get through this week,
let's get through the holidays. I can almost I have
no enough for foresight in saying this, but I can
almost guarantee that if they're holding a big promo, it's
for a reason.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, just relos.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
I do.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
That'll happen today. I'm sure I understand many.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
The mentality like things happened a certain way for so
many years and it just becomes like a routine, and
then when it doesn't happen, it's.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Like, why is that? I get it.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, but that's it's not.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Always a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah. What else we got, Well, we got the just
going back to the Eli Lonnie thing. It looks like
they want to expand their family. They want to have
another baby.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I approved. Yeah, more babies. Let's get some more beautiful
black babies on the screen. And can we actually see
the babies?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Oh yeah, that was that was.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Another comment that we didn't actually see Trey.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
We did saw him last week. Look, infants are expensive
m hm.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Hm, and they can only works so long.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
So literally it's a contract thing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, that was a big Those were big scenes
to shoot, you know, to get those done quickly.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
They were probably like.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, yeah, so So the other little tidbit that was
dropped this week, so a lot of this week there was.
This week was basically split into two parts where we
had a lot of memories, I think in a lot
of reunions and also a lot of like little droplets
of information that are going to be picked up later on.

(24:33):
And one of the topics that was covered in this
uh top story was the conversation between Lonnie and Abe
where she basically told him, I agree with Paulina, you
need to back off. Yeah, yes, Abe is not listening.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, I keep forgetting that.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
So Paulina, Okay, So Paulina is Lonnie's mother, but Dabe
is not her father anymore, right they they not.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Her biological father, right, Yeah, but he adopted her. Yeah,
she calls him dad. You know. It's so now she
has she you know, she has a full mom and dad,
and and then she has you know, like a second
mom and Tamar who raised her. So but yeah, she
basically told her her dad, you need to back off,
and oh boy, Abe is not listening. Because so we

(25:23):
got at that other little scene at the end of
the week where he was closing up to Egen. I'm
like e j oh, damn it.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, I think Lanni sort of expressed some of the
things we were saying, like this is Theo's family, like
you have to you can't. He's not a child anymore.
He's a grown man. Even if you disapprove of it,
you're not gonna forbid him from either working for the
demerrors or spending time with them, or you know, you're
like I did say, his approach should be more of

(25:54):
like guidance as opposed to like trying to like give
him orders or you know, forbid him from like seeing
those people. And also think, I know, I know Roman
was it last week or this week? I can't remember
was having before? Yeah, I was, Yeah, mentioned like, oh,
you don't know the Demrs like we do, and like, yeah,

(26:15):
that's a fair point, but it doesn't like again, maybe
it applies to EJ at this point, who again is
a bit he's a bit neutered from who we used
to be. And I'd say in the early two thousands,
he's not as bad as he used to be. And
that's probably the biggest threat I don't like I said,
you know, Tony's a bit more even keeled. Chad doesn't

(26:35):
have involvement in the company, but he's someone who was
close to THEO. Like, like I said, I feel differently
if Andre and Stefano were still around.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah, but then it's a big it's even so, it's
a big leap too from not wanting to guide your
son to actively disapproving. It's an even bigger leap from
actively disapproving of his decisions too then undermining him. Yeah,
that is a big no no. And I don't understand.

(27:10):
He must be so desperate that he's just he's got
such blinders on because that is the worst possible thing
that he could do right now.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's kind of a bit hypocritical to
plot to be plotting with EJ to get THEO out
of there because he doesn't want he doesn't want EJ
or the Demurs to influence him. But you're plotting with
EJ to like get you know what I mean. It's
like it's a weird, a weird I don't know, ask

(27:41):
or a weird yeah turn of events for Abe. I
think it is.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Just terrified of what the family working with the family
will do to THEO, and so he's just trying. And
now he's like, all right, if I can't say anything
directly to THEO, I will go I will try to
I will try to make the happened another way.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
And it's just yeah, exactly, the blinders are on. Yeah, yeah,
I understand. I understand.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
I like again, and I've said this before, I understand
why Am has the infections. However it you just kind
of have to let it lie and support him the
best you can without telling him what, without you know,
bossing him around.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
M h. Yeah. Yeah, it's like and we got that
really great scene or I thought it was a good
scene with Raith and Sammy kind of like a little
callback to their last visit and a little one night
stand that was kind of i'd say, kind of like
half serious. And when they you know, he asked her
to stay, she asked him to come to Italy, and

(28:45):
it was like, you know, we're going to leave each
other where we found each other kind of the thing.
But yeah, yeah, I like that she was sensitive enough
to like talk with him and be like, yeah, this
is what's going on in my life. I found someone.
We've been dating, you know, we're engaged, blah blah blah. Babe.
I found someone.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
No I thought I thought they were they were a
little cute together and now they're just like their friend.
They're like, you'll always be a special part of me
and blah blah blah, you know, give you the good feels.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, then we got the flashback, yeah, after after the
safe house with them back in.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
God, when was that almost two thousand and nine?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Jeezuz.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Oh wait, So there was a moment that just reminded me.
There was a moment that kind of like I paused
for a minute, so she kind of alluded. She's like, oh,
you're HEARDing anyone at the safe house right now? Yeah,
he kind of made a comment like I can't remember
what his.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Comment was, maybe, but then I was I.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Was like, oh, is he is there something?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Because no, no, no, no, it was just a callback.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Wait what were you going to say?

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I thought maybe there's something going on with Rape that
we don't know that there there's something going on. Rape's
went off screen a lot lately, and so I'm wondering
if like there.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Is somebody he's protecting in the safe house we just
don't know and don't know why. I mean, it could
just be it could just be me in overdrive being
like thinking too far outside, but.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Don't Yeah, I think it was just I think he
was just teasing her because he obviously can't tell her
what what he's really doing. He's investigating e J.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Right, But maybe there's someone. Maybe he found someone, he
found someone that can help, and they're putting him in.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Maybe it's Dmitri. Maybe he has Dmitri in the safe.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
I don't know the way, the way, I don't know,
but the way you remember action went, I was like, Oh,
is he keeping someone and we just don't know it yet.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
It was like a foreshadowing who knows? Yeah, anyway, Yeah,
maybe it's Abigail. Yeah, we just can't let this broad die.
Now we have her mother trying to take the kids away.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh god, we're not there yet.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Yeah, we're not there yet. Give me a minute to
rev up.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
See they're the same thing. So anyway, but you just
comment reminded me that I.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Well, like the point being that everything I think the
writing was so meticulous this week that now it does
kind of have our heads spinning in different directions of
like who's gonna pop out of the woodwork and when?
And who has who? And who knows who? Because there's
all these all of these little connections that were either
reignited this week or remade people that had like scenes

(31:35):
together for the first time that you did know they
knew each other. And I'm like, wait a minute, So
you like it was kind of a week to pay
attention because because then you're like, they're mentioning this for
a reason. I think it was without reason this week.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
I will say that there were several times where I
got distracted on my phone and then I heard something
being said and I was like, wait, what, So I
had to rewind and watch again to make sure. Yeah,
because there were there were I feel like there were
what do you want to call them, like crumbs?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, bread crumbs.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
There you go, so.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Many breadcrumbs this week. So guys like, if you weren't like, well,
we'll do our best here. Taylor spring up to speed.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
What does Taylor Swift call him? Easter eggs?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yes, Easter eggs. Yeah, there was. There were so many
Easter eggs this week that if you weren't paying attention,
you probably would blink a miss. And that's why we
have a dish day so that we can remind each
other of things that we missed.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
That one of the three of us heard something that
the other two didn't or two of us heard something
the other one didn't.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, anyway, just to wrap up this storyline, Hobby and Leo,
we got a little bit from their perspective about missing
to sorrow and yeah and the godparents right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
They'll be okay. I also love the little nugget that
they teased out that Leo did. He was honest with Hobby.
He told him that Gwen has asked him to look
for Dimitri, and that was a really honest conversation. I
love that there was no jealousy there. There was just
you know, asking questions and like, are you okay with this?

(33:11):
What do you? What are you hoping to get out
of this kind of a thing that it was. I
love the way that conversation played out.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, they actually have a healthy relationship.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, honest communication.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Holy shit, Brady, you could learn a thing or two
from them. I know right now, Brady, don't. Brady doesn't
need a relationship.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Maybe Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Oh Rafe two.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
A lot of these a lot of these straight ros
just can't handle handle it. Learn from learn from the
gay boys.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
But no.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I thought the Baby show was well. I thought everyone
who should be there was there, and it was nice
to see kind of fat group of people together. We
usually again we usually don't get big scenes of parties
or things like that with they actually get the cast together.
So yeah, well the.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
More the more people that are in them, the herder
they are, longer they take to shoot. But they made
it happen twice this week.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
No, yes, Belle didn't need to and to Sammy to Sammy,
Bell didn't need to be there because she she's been
there the whole time trying to get this adoption going.
So no, she didn't need to be there for fifteen
minutes at a party when she was basically responsible for
this adoption going through, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, that was really weird, like unnecessary shade when she
was like I called Carrie and Brady and then Marla's like,
well carries on another continent, so that so I don't
know why you why You're like, oh no, that.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Was that was a moment when Marlena was like, no,
Sammy cut the ship, like yeah, now you're just like
forty five years old, You're not doing that anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, you're just looking for a way to needle people now.
But yea yeah, but yeah, yeah, moving on to our
other big other big party event of of say lo
the of course that is the Horton Galley. Here. It
was a lot of interaction with this one between everyone
from the Hortons. We had Julie, Marie, Steven, Mike, Jennifer Lucas, Sarah, Maggie,

(35:09):
Ari Jack, we had the Blacks more late about Brady, Sammy, Paul, Andrew,
Paul Andrew back, Eric Rachel. Then we had a little
bit of EJ. Gwen, Leo, Kat, Kayla and Steve basically
this stuff. Yeah, we had a lot of different interactions
and a lot of different kind of little callbacks and

(35:30):
memories and flashbacks that I did. And we can also
talk about the Monday's episode two with this, the like
Marie Horton family history stuff too kind of thrown in there.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
I figured I'd like the juxtaposition of what we were
seeing with like the flashbacks and like all of the
salacious drama.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
That it's like, you know, it made me, it made
me think like, oh, they.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Don't do like storylines like this anymore, where it's like
this dude comes back, he's actually her other and then
like the Hortons went through some ship like some yes,
and it's like I'm damn. They don't do this kind
of stuff anymore, or it's rare that they do it
with like you know, Laura got pregnant by.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
What's his face is? What's his face's brother and then
tried to pass on. I guess they still kind of
do that, but anyway.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
My point was, like them retelling the history of all
of the family drama.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Well then not pretty history. Excuse me, the not pretty history.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Exactly, the the not pretty while currently over across town
at the hospital, some new not pretty drama was developing.
Thank you to Jennifer Rose Horton Karen will.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Call her.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Being all I'm going to take your kids away from
you and finally Chad getting a backbone one.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, well not, we're not there yet because I have
a whole.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Rent Okay, well I don't need to go to And
it was, but there wasn't. There was like a noticeable
like they went from one of the other so like pasta.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
And I think that. I mean, I love that they
made that point. I love it. I love it. I
love it because you don't love the Hortons because they're perfect.
That's not the point. You love the Hortons because in
spite of everything that they've gone through, they're still a family.
Like they go through the same drama that everybody else

(37:27):
does in this town. They have been through it. They
have had their arguments. When you had one brother try
and kill another brother, I would argue justifiably so for
the stuff they went down at the time, and and
they got through it. And I don't know if it
was Julie or Marie who said it best. They got

(37:48):
through with forgiveness and grace. Not right away, but they
got through it with time and forgiveness and grace. They
had they they had to. They were a family, Tom
and Alice.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
As long as you're within the family.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
If you're outside of the family and you pull some ship,
you get branded, you get a scarlet.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
LETTERD for life.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Well well we'll discuss that and in a few minutes.
But yeah, but the point being, it's like, at least
Marie ed seemed to understand that point because she's she's
she's the last look, she's the last living child of
Tom and Alice. She she has been through it, she

(38:31):
has been the victim of it. She's been you know, ppetu,
she's you know, she's been through all of it. She's
seen it all through the Hohrt Ends in this town,
and you know, she understands and I think she that
that level of understanding that she gets from her parents
that people aren't perfect and that you have to you

(38:54):
and and you know time isn't promised to us all
that you have to really just you know, be go
with grace.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, for me, I was surprised they went there because,
especially even on Monday's episode when Marie hinted about the
Tommy storyline and then they kind of went to commercial,
I thought like, Okay, they're going to sign to like that,
because they usually even even when they talk about the
other whore and stuff, that's the one that usually is
like is very referenced, very seldomly, So that when they

(39:25):
came back and they actually talked about it, I was like, Oh, Wow,
they're actually going there. They're they're they're exposed, not exposing,
but they're they're being truthful about all their history. They're
not just covering up or hand waiving some of that.
So to hear like Marietel sort of holly and take
that story and like, you know, get their reactions was great.
To hear them tell Jeremy the Laura making stuff, which

(39:49):
I'm surprised you didn't know. Actually, I mean.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
That was necessary. I think that and this is what
I talk about. This is what I mean when I
say that they were very meticulous in what they say
said and who they said it to this week, Because
when you're talking about family skeletons, there are some people
who don't need to know that stuff. But Jeremy knowing

(40:12):
the origins of his father's conception, given his own history
with anger, that was necessary. That was telling the right
story to the right person at the right time. He
needed to know that. He needed to know that there's
a family history of anger. Because this idea that the

(40:32):
Importans are all perfect and nobody made a mistake. Let's
be very clear about how Laura got pregnant with Mike.
It was not a pretty story.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Mm hmm, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Like they went, they went in back in the day
with with those kinds of with those kinds of stories.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
And good go ahead. I love the flashbacks. You sometimes
they tend to use, like the same ones over and over.
I felt like these were seldom ones that we've seen
and I like that they I like that we got
a lot of Laura too, and that was.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Japanie Forrester before she was which we talked about a
few couple of months ago on here. Yeah, but yeah,
I'm glad we got those scenes with her. Yeah, the
flashbacks I think were really done, really really well. This
miss week. I thought that, like I said, they use
something that we were not. We feel like they tend
to recycle sometimes the same one. So it was good
to see some some older ones that we don't get

(41:36):
to see as much.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
And they didn't shy.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Away from using actors that aren't on the like yeah yeah,
or like with like that old Micing even though I
hated Mike and carry that Mike and Carry flashback. She's
not on the show anymore, but they still used that
that flashback. I really hated them. I don't know why I.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Carry no No. I feel like they were a nice
break from Carrie and Austin, which I think by that.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Time parent Austin belonged to They were they were my couple, so.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
I think it was I loved them together now, but
it was after six years and back and forth, it
was like, okay, nice to give her, give them a
little breather, but Yeah. No, I'm surprised too, because, yeah,
they usually don't. Yeah, I feel like in the past
they would have had Mike reference that without showing the
clip of Carrie and then remember that or remember that

(42:28):
she's the one who gave him that. So it was
nice that they actually showed it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Another thing that they showed flashbacks of was when the
whole Addie storyline. I remember my mother when I first
started watching, trying to tell me the story of Hope
and Julie and Maddie and I was like, I yea what.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
And so being.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Reminded that that Hope's Hope's origin story is not that pretty.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
But I think.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
My my my stepmom is also my sister. My sister
is also my step Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
It was yeah, so so so messy, especially when consider
the fact that it was like Mom stole him away
after they had already been together. It was just a
whole Oh my god, that was a whole mess. It
was a whole thing. And I I actually got so
giggly this week and seeing people react to like those

(43:31):
three main revelations about the Wharton family, It's like they
could it was like they didn't know or they started
watching in the nineties, and I'm like, yeah, that happened.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
I liked I liked that they they they made they
had Tate and Holly have such like reactions, and I
was like, Tate and Holly are going to leave this
interview and be like, our drama.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Is nothing, nothing compared to compared to this.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, but I want to shout out this clip. I
think this except from Jen Hi Jen, I didn't realize
that Julian and Doug were together before he was with Addie,
which I think is a common misconception. I think I
think the the soap trope is to think like the
young hot daughter like stole away the man from the mother.
But in this case it was inverted. It was Addie
who was who we don't again, and that's probably because

(44:20):
they don't talk about her a lot, and you know,
Hope is in and out a lot, and we don't
get a lot of people who were on the show
at that time and interacted with her. But she was
sort of like I wouldn't say she was the Horton backgirl,
but she was. She wasn't because I like to call
Julie the Sammy of the Horton family back then. She was,
but Addie was very much a trup you know, she wasn't.

(44:43):
She had some issues and one of them was she
had no qualms about taking her daughter's taking her daughter's
man essentially or you know ex boyfriend or that was.
Addie was rich and she was a little duplicitous back then.
So like, yeah, I think a lot of people, I
think lot of people always confused of how Julie is
the step mom and how she why would she get

(45:04):
together with like her sister or her mother's husband. And
it was like no, Addie got with her daughter's her
daughter's man as opposed to the other way around. So
they need to do this the to like detail that
out and like like spell it out for people who
don't know the history.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
They need to do it. Start doing this stuff again, like.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
These well they do, but they they they make it
into like a cheap, tawdry affair kind of a thing
instead of like a sweeping love story like you're like
a mom or a daughter stealing away their their soulmates
kind of thing. Like I remember when they did it
with Eve and Page and EJ. That was not love.
That was just like a cheap affair that was good

(45:49):
though it was No, it was good. It was good,
but you see what I mean about it wasn't like
some sweeping love story kind of a thing.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, no, got it. Even that was good though, I'll
take that.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
And it was a lot of emphasis on Susan, which
was nice to see, and also like the relationship with
her and her mother too, So was it just like
it wasn't until about Doug. It was also their fractured
relationship and how they they kind of got to a
good place. And you see it too whenever Hope is
usually the one to mention her mother or to be
sentimental about Addie. Julie not so much, and she loves

(46:24):
her mother and they they they had a resolved before
she died, unfortunately, but you could see that their relationship
was always fractured and you know, ever since she was younger.
So it was nice for I guess a lot of
people who don't know that history to have it like
explicitly spelled out and you can track why why Addie
could do something like that, because she already had a

(46:46):
strained relationship with her daughter, and why it did it
sort of you know, it didn't have Julie write her
off per se. So yeah, we still got a Doug
the third update, which I completely forgot he would related
to Robin, I like completely like for the party.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
How particulous everything was this week or you had to
pay attention.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, so it's nice that he even has I mean,
so technically he has family in Jeremy. Is his actual cousin, yes, yeah, yeah, adoption,
but yeah, actual cousin. So yeah, I guess there's there's
we again, we like Doug. There was a there's somewhat
of an opening, I guess. So we learned he did
pay back the money. Even though he hasn't talked to Julie,

(47:31):
he did pay back the money, so that that he
scored with her regarding that, and you know he is
happy that she is not closing things off to giving
people a second chance. I guess.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
So yeah, I think, I mean, I think that if
if the timing was right, we would he would be
welcomed back with open arms. I stand by what I've
said previously about that character, that it was it was
a good idea, but wrong timing. Like I like the actor,
the chemistry that he had with people, I love, I
love the idea of the character. I think it was

(48:04):
it just chalked it up to that timing. It was
just too much going on at the time.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yeah, people ask me, Robin is Jeremy's mother, So yeah,
Robin is the niece of Doug's Doug the Third's grandfather
who adopted Doug the second Robert. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so
that's how her in her and Doug the Third cousins.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Yeah, a lot of history, guys.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, it was nice to see Steven. I feel like
they didn't give him. I don't know if we're going
to see him this week, but I was like, oh,
can we get a little bit more with him?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
We like Steven.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, yeah, I was hoping him and Jackie would have
a little thing, okayed, friends on another world together, So
I thought they I was hoping they'd get like a
little scene together. But maybe we'll say. I don't know
if he's he's still around, but it nice to see
him again.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Pauline is too busy keeping the news that Kristin escaped
from prison.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I'll tell you after the gala. Ristin escaped.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
I'm like, that's kind of a big deal to just
be like, oh wait to laughter the gala Galla.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Going on, a lot of speeches, a lot of a
lot of tears. There's a lot of speeches.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Should we move on to the John stuff? Are we
good with the whore ends? Yeah? Justin just a reminder.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
You you got something you need to do?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you for that. Well,
well you guys want you guys want to move forward
with the black stuff?

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Yeah, yes, we'll keep this one off.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I'll dug away for just a minute.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Yeah, okay, so this is the custody battle, I mean
not No, we're not there yet. We're not there yet,
no Michael yet, We're still on this storyline. We're just
moving on to the yes. Because there's a three parts.
I'm sorry it's not well organized. The Black's part of
this because if you were paying attention, so the Horton
Galla was split into two parts where the Hortons were

(50:06):
kind of we're all on Friday and but the Black
Family was on Thursday, and and they they were able
to kind of switch out the cast and make the
excuse that, you know, Marlena ended Thursday's episode with chest pains,
and that's how they were able to kind of like
switch the cast up a little bit. So it was

(50:30):
so this would be Marlena Bell, Brady, Sammy, Paul, Andrew,
Eric and Rachel. And it was really really nice to see.
I would say, I think I really enjoyed the Black
family more just because they've really been through it and
everybody noticed, guys that the the tribute that they did

(50:50):
to John was not only was in part for Drake,
but also they found a way to incorporate John's donation
by making it specifically aimed at treating and finding a
cure for pancreatic cancer as a tribute to Brady's on
screen mother Isabella and his now and then Drake who

(51:15):
we lost to pancreatic cancer last year. And so, guys,
this was such I mean, the horrible irony. I mean,
it's absolutely horrible irony that that Isabella died of the
same disease that Drake Hoguston died of in real life.

(51:36):
And also if I believe that Eric Martzov's mother died
of in real life as well, the irony is horrible.
It's it's just it's sickening. But it provided this beautiful
full circle moment, especially in the speeches that were given

(51:58):
by Marlena and Brady about how you felt it like
They've lost someone to this disease. That wasn't fake, that
was real.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, I liked I like the way they weaved it together.
I thought it was a good way to honor Drake
to Yeah, I really liked it. I mean, no real
big revelations. There are just good scenes with I think
everyone did a good job with their speech. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I think those were the ones I probably felt the most,
just because it was just it was still so real
and raw to to to the characters, to the actors,
to all of us who you know, were still kind
of processing Drake's death a year later. So it's it's
really it was. It was. It was beautiful. It was

(52:46):
beautifully done. And then the little moments in between, you know,
between the family members, some of them who had scenes together,
someone who had never had scenes together. It was a
lot of really well woven people on the canvas. I
think the moment I and certainly everyone was paying attention to. Again,
it was a blinket if you miss it, where Rachel overheard.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
That she's learned that half of Salem has popped EJ
in the past.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Yes, yes, again, she still doesn't know that this latest
go around she was responsible for but the idea, the
idea that the number of people who have shot EJ
is like split down the middle between adults and children,

(53:38):
is kind of worries though, like he just pisses off everyone.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
He's an equal opportunity asshole.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah. Also, I want to clarify that I think was
there was a lot of confusion I saw a little
lot confusion online about when Chandler was delivering the lines.
I think it is sounded like or he loved the line.
It looked it sounded like he said myself and Chris,
and I think he meant either either did it enunciate.

(54:10):
I think what he meant to say was Kristen Kristin. Yes,
A lot of people were confused when he said that's
why me and Chris shot you, and a lot of
people were like, who the hell is Chris, And they
were like going through the history of like the people
who shot they. Some people thought it was the henchman
who shot him when Clyde ordered him killed. So I
was like, Oh, it's probably him, And then after a

(54:30):
while I was like, oh, he actually means Kristen. I
just think he either Chandler didn't a Nunzi or like
messed up and they just didn't redo it. But it
sounded like he said myself and Chris, but he essentially
met Kristen, who is taking the rap we know for Rachel.
So I think there was a little confusion that. Yeah,
but I love their I love the EJ Wooll interaction

(54:54):
because do you guys remember that when oh god, this
is weird sort of saying it. I know people who
know Will remember before James Scott left, he had that
plot line where he was blackmailing Will and if you
guys remember, him and Chandler were playing it like they
were playing their scenes like sexually if that makes sense,

(55:14):
or they were doing them flirty. And I felt like
he referenced that tonight and I was like, okay that.
I like the fact that he sort of just gave
a little bit of hint of their history of like, again,
nothing was happening between them, but it was something that Chantlin,
Massey and James Scott decided to do because I think
they were kind of sick and sick of that storyline
or sick of where they thought it was going, and

(55:36):
so that's what they sort of infused into it. So
he did a little bit of a reference to that
in his yeah net top. Yeah, yeah, that was a
very weird like storyline that they had for them, with
those two actors deciding to play it sort of flirty
and romantic in a weird way. So I like the
fact that she gave just a little hint of that

(55:56):
in his little speech with EJ about their relationship through
the year.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
So yeah, it's okay, guys, we all thought it was weird.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah, it was a very interesting. I remember it happening, happening.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
Like that.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yeah, it would have been weird, but it would have
been a good salacious like you know, like we kind
of got that with Dimitrian and what's his face last.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Year, but you know, we got enough salacious stuff, like
at the beginning of that year with the Abigail and
e J stuff that was that they were I think
they were trying to move on from that so fast
that weird stuff started happening.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Christian was like, wait, wait what happened? Yeah, this was
a plot where EJ was blackmailing just EJ was blackmailing
Will for this weird storyline. And then it wasn't the
it wasn't the text that was them flirting. It was
literally Chandler Massy and James Scott deciding to play their
scenes as if the two characters were like flirting with

(57:04):
each other as opposed to like antagonistic, And they did
that because they were kind of sick of that storyline.
It wanted to like infuse something into it. Again, it
wasn't the writing. The writing wasn't you know, them liking
each other or them gonna have an affair. But it
was those two actors who again later admitted it that
they that's what they did for their scenes. So their

(57:25):
scenes always came off like they were like trying to
seduce each other as opposed to like be competitive with
one another. So yeah, it was a very small like
storyline back in the day, but it was it was
very impactful that people remember it.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
I feel like today is not just a big uh,
not just us covering the history of the show, but
this is just a big history day for our show
because we're just like we're pulling stuff out of the
woodwork that people either forgot about or we were, you know,
choose not to remember. We're gonna pull it all out today.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
And I love that we get that with these writers
because I feel like other writers wouldn't have had acknowledged
some of this stuff, or they would you know, their
scenes would have been a lot quicker or punchier. But
you know, we're getting a little bit of when he
when Will literally said I went from like tolerating you
to hate to shooting you to hating you to just

(58:20):
also considering you family at the end or yeah, is yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
I mean, the the dynamic between e J and Will
is always going to be complicated because of the violence
between them, because of the friendship. It's it's it's always
going to be complicated. But yes, the the greater point
being that EJ has very complicated relationships with children that

(58:50):
are not his own. Yeah, and half of them tend
to shoot him.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Mm hmm. I did like him telling Rachel though, that
Thomas is more whoortant and he's saying, what do you say,
He's not like us, Rachel, I thought, like, yeah, to me,
exemplified like it summed it up perfectly. It felt like
Brady's been trying to reach her, and I felt like
that was the one thing.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
But like, yeah, and I'm like, this is something Brady. Yeah, look,
I'm sorry, but Brady has no knowledge of what she's done.
And even if he did. He's turned a blind eye
to a lot of other stuff. So somebody has to
tell Rachel not to infuse her demera into other children.

(59:35):
Somebody had to say it.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much wraps up sort of the Black
Family's part. And then we got I just added sort
of this because they were people. They did get some
screen time. We got a little bit of Ejan Gwen
in smuggling in whatever is in the box we don't know.
We got Leo being a snoop there and Cat sort

(59:58):
of thrown into that little and then we got a
little bit of Kayla and Steve reminiscing, and we.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Got we got the little nuggetive info that at one
point and one of you, I think mentioned this that
Kat and EJ were at the same year.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Oh my gosh, and.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
The memories of her reading Withering Heights, was it? Yes,
someone we're thinking is EJ with all the bandages, and
then you know kind of like that's probably how she
recognizes Sammy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Yes, oh my god, I love this for this storyline,
you know, no, I love it. I love it. I
love it. I love it because because we complained for
so long about the insane chemistry that Anla McCord and
Billy Flynn had but how it just took it just
took too damn long. It took too damn long. And

(01:00:50):
now there's too much drama that it's like don't but
we're begging you, like, don't waste cat. There's too much
potential there, and the infusion of this undercurrent with e
J is just I love it. Oh, it adds such
a deep, dynamic layer to everything else that's going on.

(01:01:13):
I love it. I love it. I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
I'm just I just I'm curious where it's going to
go from here, Like what how It's just like there
seems to be there's been a lot of setup now
and where it goes from here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
It's it's intriguing me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah, I'm I'm actually I'm just a general guest for
the box. I'm thinking it's it's either Demetrio or Stephan
in the box.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
It's a de mirror in the box instead of making
the box.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yeah, I'm calling Dimitri's my first choice or Stephan I'm calling.
I think. I also think that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Is why are they in a box? Like I didn't
see any holes poked in there?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Like is it dead?

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Well? It looks like one of those tubes that you
know that Kate and Marlena and Kayla were in a
couple of years ago. So it looks like my guess
is that that Rolf has been picking up a little
bit on where Megan left off in her research and
maybe is like using this drug because you made it

(01:02:21):
clear that the versifics drug is key to the research
that he's doing, so maybe this is kind of like
a new methodology. But again, there's there's some one in
the box. We don't know someone is in the box.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Yeah, yes, kayl and Steve, we got a little bit
from them, a little history there, just being was it
Stephanie Stephanie.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Being Stephanie's birth, Yeah, in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Their relationship to the Horns and her history there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Yeah. There was also that blink if you miss it
at the beginning of the week where Mike acknowledged, uh
to Kayla that Jeremy was not good to Stephanie understandment
of the year and and they were kind of like, well,
I guess time will tell. Yeah, and that seems to

(01:03:13):
be that seems to be kind of where we're we're
I mean, that was it. That was it. That was
just such a great through line. The way they tied
in passed with President the Horton and Horton and tying
it to Jeremy where Jeremy and Stephanie are. Now, that
was a brilliant tie in, and I agree with where
they left it is that you know what time, time
will tell. We're not gonna We're gonna see how this goes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yeah, and that wraps up the Horton Gala. All ninety
percent of the cast was involved in that one. But
but I think interactions from it. But moving on to
our last and most controversial topics anticipated what is the

(01:03:57):
custody battle? This, of course is Chad, Jennifer, Tom Is
EJ and a little bit of Lucas and Mike thrown
in there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
And oh no, no, no no, I'm going to allow
the boys to go first.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Okay, you can't do a ten minute ran though, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Just no, no, no, no, no no, no. Yeah, it's incise,
it's practical, concise.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I think, you know what.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
My My view on this storyline was summed up very
nicely by Chris Agnew in the chat with please put
Jennifer Rose in the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
And ship her away, far far away, And the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
Fact that she's doing this and allegedly Jack is just
blindly supporting her, and the fact that she actually thinks
this is what Abigail would want.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
She's full of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah, the woman is full of shit.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
She's off her meds or something, and just like nobody
would want this, and I like, it's just it's unreasonable,
it's it's and I'm glad that Chad, you know, like
I said earlier, I'm glad he finally fought back a
little bit. Yeah this week and you know, actually kind
of told her, but he.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Needs to move out of that house. He needs to
take Like that should have been the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
He was like, we are going home and we are
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Leaving, And he had a point where like, oh, how
old is Thomas, Like nine to eleven ten?

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
He's like he's ten years old. Kids don't always get
what they want. And I was like, thank you Chad
for being like just because he wants to he's just
because he's grumpy and says he wants to go with
his grandma doesn't mean he gets to. Like I didn't
always get what I wanted when I was ten years old.
I still don't get what I want. Forty five years old, Like, so,
I actually, you know, commend Chad this week he actually

(01:05:47):
stood up for himself a little bit, and Jennifer can
go to hell.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yeah, I echo that. I'm glad Chad stood up for
himself this week. I think Jennifer is out of her mind.
This is not like you're waging a war custody battle
for this. None. None of this really makes much sense.
I've been a big supporter of saying she's well within
her right to hate Cat. It's the other it's the
intrusiveness into other people and what they do and what

(01:06:15):
they feel and how they measure forgiveness, Like that's not
yours to decide you. I am in full support of
Jennifer Rose or in Debreeaux, hating Cat forever if she'd
like to. For I mean, I'm even in support of
her having the thought, the thought of not wanting my
grandchildren around this person. You can think that as well.

(01:06:38):
I'm full support of that. You don't have a right
to dictate other people's, you know, doing to impart that
out other people. She definitely damn sure doesn't have a
right to kind of call Chad's parenting into question. I
think a lot of this is her own history, and
we saw it that you not. I don't know three
weeks ago when she's had she had Jennifer did not

(01:07:01):
have a great relationship with her own parents, which is
why she went to go live with Tom and Alice,
and because her own parents were unstable in many different ways.
Bill with his stuff and then Laura with her mental illness.
I think she's reaching here. I think she's connecting a
lot of this to her past trauma and stuff about
a parent not being able to care for their child,

(01:07:21):
and then the best place for that child is with
the grandparent. Ie she is now the grandmother, So I
think a lot of that has something to do with it.
But she is just completely like unhinged with this, like
the fact that it's not can we sit down and
talk about this. It's not a conversation, it's I'm gonna
take you to court. First, even last week when she
said I'm taking the kids with me to Boston and

(01:07:45):
you're not gonna do anything about it, Like, who do
you think you are? Also the whole like Abigail wouldn't approved.
First of all, that's irrelevant because if Abigail was alive,
you wouldn't have this situation to begin with. And two,
if Abigail did it like someone Chad was dating, that's
not enough to take away as parental rights and that
would be her fight to fight if she wanted so

(01:08:06):
the whole like Abigail wouldn't like this is sort of
sort of like a moot point to me. I didn't
really I didn't understand whatever impact that was supposed to have.
I don't blame Mike and Mike and Lucas. I thought
lou well Lucas sent her was really good about I'm
you're my sister. I'm gonna support you, like you know,
I don't have a dog in this fight potentially, but

(01:08:27):
you know I'm gonna side with the whore inside I guess,
but saying I don't look what me and Sammy did
to Will and like, yeah, we have a great relationship,
but it left a lot of damage. And hopefully she
took that. Looked like she kind of took that in
a bit. We'll see if she takes it to heart. Yeah,

(01:08:47):
I mean that. Yeah, Please Jennifer stop, we didn't. I
thought this was interesting. They cut away from hearing Julie's perspective,
and we still never got it. They never like circle
back from assuming. Maybe this week we're going to get
a bigger conversation with those two people, because I feel
like Julie was sort of like taking a back, like
weight custody.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
The reaction was like, that's extreme, but yeah, we never
got the reaction to it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Yeah, I'm sure we're going to get a little bit
more of it this week. But yeah, Jennifer is on one,
so to speak, yeah or Sally, Yeah, what do you
take it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Okay, okay, settle in folks, quote me on this, Jennifer,
You hateful hipoc critical brat in sirt brat with something
else bitch in your mind. You want to talk about

(01:09:52):
bad parenting, Let's talk about bad parenting in your family.
Was a drug dealer, Oh yeah, Your son who had
two mental breakdowns while her children were toddlers. Oh yeah,

(01:10:13):
your daughter who too righteous sister in law? Oh yeah,
Your husband who, upon the death of his wife, moved
into your family's home, moved into your family's company to

(01:10:34):
raise his children under your family roof? Who did that? Chad?
He severed nearly all ties with the demeriside of his
family to raise his children in the home that he
thought would be safe and loving and who is being
the unsafe and unloving and ungrateful person right now? You

(01:10:57):
your brat. I'm sorry, sorry, this is ridiculous. This is
like you have no moral standing, you have no legal standing.
Let's be clear about this. You have no legal standing
because guess what whose actual care was Thomas in when

(01:11:17):
he ran in front of that car. Oh yeah, yours.
You have no right. Abby would be ashamed. She would
be ashamed of your behavior right now. No matter how
bad things got between Abbiil and Chad, she never ever

(01:11:39):
wanted to take his kids away from him, not ever.
She would be ashamed of you. And you need to
go back on your roomstick to Boston and think about
what you're doing to your grandchildren. You are lucky. I

(01:12:02):
didn't used towear words.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I was saying. I also did, like Chad uh telling
or yeah, confronting Jennifer about turning Thomas against him about
you don't have to say your or you don't have
to feed him lines, but your energy, the way you're
reacting to things. He's picking up his cues from you,
and you're you're indulging in it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
Someone else brought up a fair point that I did
leave out of my argument. It wasn't my practice shower argument,
but I did forget to leave it out. Who is
the pill popper who ran over her stepdaughter and still
has not been charged? Oh yeah, that was you too, gotcha, bitch?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
I know, can you imagine, Like do you imagine if
Chad came in and said, you know what, Jennifer for
I don't really don't want the kids visiting you in
Boston because Jack drape Kayla thirty years ago, Like could
you you know what I mean? Like would we be
sitting here like really, Chad, I don't know if that okay?
Like whatever, Like, yeah, Jennifer, I don't know. She might

(01:13:15):
be in for a fight. I know we had that
scene with Chad getting a little scared and going to
EJ for legal advice, and I thought EJ was fair.
He said, with children, you never know what could come up.
You never like she can bring anyone, can bring a
case against anyone. It's detailing. It's gonna be how much
you know, how much evidence she actually has, which she

(01:13:37):
has none, or this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Or argument is that Jennifer has zero evidence that Chad
is a bad father, and the reality is Chad could
he want to should he decide to let EJ loose,
would have a mountain of facts on his side to

(01:14:01):
counteract Jennifer, including the fact if Gwen wants to put
her two cents in. Oh well, well there was that
time she ran me over with her car, which was.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Breaked up the other week, So which was we reminded
of the other week in her snarky little comeback.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
But would we say that Chad is the good Demarra,
We mean it, like the man does not break laws,
the man does not make excuses, Like even when he
was heavily involved in Demarra, he never took part in
any shady business. You can't tie him to anything.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
Dylan Matthews, if you're still watching, I accidentally banned you somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Yeah, that was an accident, Dylan. Yeah, I was like
trying to show well, I have to figure out how
to undo that. Yeah, that was the press.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Yeah, it's the stream yard with these new but ends
and everything that I.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Can't handle it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
We'll figure out how to undo it. But yeah, you
are not definitely not the rest of the show. That
shouldn't be that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
It shouldn't be that easy to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
No, it shouldn't be ated to the thing that should
be Yeah, sorry about that, Dylan, We'll figure that out.
Get you back or yeah, but yeah. I also also
one thing I'm screaming at. I was screaming at Chad
at the end. When ej offered to come back to
the Demir mansion, I was like, good, but I was like, no, no,
not you come back. You get your children and go back.

(01:15:34):
Do not leave the children in that residence with the
whore ends, because now that gives that does give Jennifer
a little bit of evidence there, you know what I mean,
It gives her a point on her side if you
leave the children there. I was like, no, you take
your children and you either go back to the de
mirrors or honestly go go stay at the in or

(01:15:54):
go stay at the in town with the what horten
in whatever it is until you can get your own
because you do. You also don't want that being used
against you your family's influence, So like you need some
neutral space. Go and get in an apartment in Stephanie and
Alex in Jade's building if you can.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Yeah, I will, I will say, I actually to if
he wants to play this smart don't move back into
the Dama mansion, because then Jennifer is going to counter
that argument, well that's where my daughter was murdered and
blah blah blah. No, it would actually be very smart
for him to just get his own place nearby to

(01:16:36):
show he can support the kids on his own, which
he is fully capable of doing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Yeah, that was Finances are never I've never been an issue.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Yeah no, but no, I'm talking about in terms of
emotional support like that's and that's what we've been saying
all along, is that he's too dependent on them. You
can be you can have good familial ties and not
live in the same house with them. He needs his
own place for the kids. I mean, it could be
just down the street, but they need their own space

(01:17:07):
because the feeling that the Hortons that now have that
they can interfere with these kids is just is gone
too far.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Yeah yeah, okay, recovered that in it all in all
its glory, I guess that is the one we will beat.

Speaker 4 (01:17:30):
Yeah next week.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
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(01:18:17):
And moving on to our first tidbit here. Collateral. This
is of course the Maggie Phillips sort of Kate Lucas.
This is a little bit of we found out that
they put up the CURIOTUS estate as collateral to help
keep tighten afloat as they as they sort of restructure
it and get it back on track. Yep, and interesting

(01:18:43):
things here. I feel like we're brewing I like the like,
and they hinted at this maybe a couple of weeks
ago or maybe last week, the like Kate slowly moving
more into this. I think they keep making a mention
of how her division is the only one that's making
more me the publishing side. We've had her saying she

(01:19:06):
doesn't want you know, over her dead body, will the
company fail. I don't feel like I'm getting a little soon.
We're not getting like a k takeover. But I wonder
if they will up her her position in the company
since she is doing so well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
We've been I've been at least I've been waiting for this,
and then they brought her in as the publisher for
Sepane book. I thought, maybe, Okay, this is the way
they're going to get her back in.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
It's just going very.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
Slowly, but yeah, just I don't know how how much
they'll have her within the realm of Titan, but it
might make for some good conflict between like the Kate
and Maggie character who don't really interact a lot like
if they if they or it could lead to like,

(01:19:57):
you know, some it could lead to more infight, like
if if Kate comes in as a bigger role and
then it becomes like Xander and Maggie against Kate and
Philip or.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Something like that. Obviously, even thinking like more interesting, it
could be Xander and phill up against like Kate Maggie
and Alex because they're you know what I mean, like
she doesn't beating, she doesn't know, so she they're kind
of keeping her in the dark about that a little
bit too, So that could be like a weird, a
weird way to put her on a different side of
pill up maybe and like keep Philip attached to Xander

(01:20:32):
in a way. Yeah, so yeah, that was that was
somethingly the only revelation I know they're they're sort of
playing this up like, Okay, we are wearing diar streets here,
we're putting up the estate as collateral. We really need to,
you know, this is all hands on deck to changing
over Titan, so we'll see. Yeah, not too much there.

(01:20:53):
And then our last tippet we had, which was a
little sort of end note on Friday's a little bit
of cliffhanger there. This was I bet Kristin escaped question
mark because it seemed like, Shane, you've been kidnapped. This
is Kristin Tony what we know we're believing it's Tony
EJ Reef. And then a little bit Eli they're mixed

(01:21:14):
in because we know Eli is back and he has
been talking with Reef. Now that reef is back on God.
Uh FBI. I was gonna say so, I was gonna say,
I say, but no, the FBI. What do we think
of this? This the beginning parts of this storyline?

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
Uh? This so again, this is a blink if you
miss it. This is proof stay till the very end,
because this was the what the last thirty seconds of
Friday's show? Yep, uh so now we that was a cliffhanger.
We're ending on a really massive cliffhanger. There were so
many things sprinkled out this week, and that seems to

(01:21:59):
be the big cliffhanger that we're going to jump right
into on Monday. You see, it's Tony.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
There's always the thing with Tony and Andre. The show
has set it up that whenever one of those characters
comes back, we are automatically gonna be suspicious which one is?
It Like, it's just and with Tony and Andrea flip
flopping so many times, and then one character's on the canvas.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Then years later it's like, oh, that wasn't Tony, that
was Andre.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
And now Andrea is supposed to be dead, but now
we know that anyone can come back to life, even
the one, even the whole, like, oh, they never found
a body. Thing that doesn't exist anymore, because they did
have bodies, they brought them back to life. It's just
it's one of those things where like we can't trust anything,
whether it's Tony on screen or Andrea, we can't trust
that it's one or the other, you know what i mean,
Like it's always going to be a built in suspicion.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
And that's kind of annoying to me.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
That's kind of annoying to me because then it's like
it's just an easy cry for them to be like, oh,
that wasn't Tony, that was Andre, that was Andre, that
was Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
I'm not hoping really like it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
I'm hoping this is Tony and that Andrea isn't even
a factor in this. I'm hoping the new writers don't
don't subscribe to that or like play into that. I'm
hoping Andre is gone for a while or dead permanently.
I think we've had enough Andre for the foreseeable future.
I'm hoping this is Tony. I'm hoping that the Tony
kidnapping was a ruse. If this is you know what

(01:23:32):
I mean, If this is Tony, maybe this is what
he was up to. He wanted to get Kristin out
of there for whatever reason. Maybe you know, she's innocent.
I don't know, maybe you know. We'll see, hopefully this
coming week. But I'm I'm a fingers crossed that I'm
hoping that this is Tony and that the the cold
kidnapping or missing Tony plot was maybe just a ruse
for him to come back into Salem and maybe pull

(01:23:55):
this off.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
But yeah, there's so many I think is that there
there's just so many questions, like, even if it is Tony,
there's so many questions of like why did he do this,
why did he disappear, why did he why did he
choose to do this with Kristen. You know, we still
don't know a lot about what Tony has been up
to the past couple of months. Besides trying to get

(01:24:18):
THEO installed in Demera. There's a lot about what Tony's
been doing behind the scenes that we don't know. We
don't know if they tie in at all with what
Gwen and e J are doing. We don't know if
they're completely separate. There's just so many unknowns.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Yeah, true, but we finally got a good Cliffhanger. I've
been pretty judgmental about the Cliffhangers.

Speaker 5 (01:24:48):
Cliffhanger is like like that was your Friday, okay, but
but yeah, this was a this was a good one
and then you know it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
But again it landed on.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
Like she said, like ton and then they did that
close up of him and the undertone was is it
Tony Andre? And I'm just like that kind of annoyed me.
It's just like I was like, we can't trust this character.
Is They need to figure out a way if they
are going to leave Andre dead and this is in
fact Tony, there needs to be a definitive, something definitive

(01:25:21):
to show us that Andrea is dead as doornail dead
is a doornail? What that is, I don't know, but
I don't think that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
I don't think that exists in so world because.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
They have to figure out away because I Am not
going to be dealing with this.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
Man on my screen for years with what she thought
was Tony's ashes. Remember she was talking to that urn
for years on end.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Yeah he's alive. Yeah, And then we got little confirmation.
Rafe and Eli are onto They're keeping an eye on
the Tony stuff and they know that EJ has implored
his own sort of team to look into it, so
they're on to him about that. So yeah, they're they're

(01:26:03):
I'm licking the rape and Eli. I'm sort of bringing
them into this a little bit. Again. That's how we
sort of first met Eli was he was a Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
It almost feels like, don't don't make me ban you again, Dylan,
right there, No, no, don't. It almost feels like we're
starting to get the beginnings of them trying to build up.

(01:26:38):
This is a FBI team up in the way that
they did in the eighties where you had the is
A and the Sale m PD. Remember you had back
in the day where you know, you had you know,
Shane and Abe and Roman and John and Bow and
everything was kind of tied in with the you know,

(01:26:58):
the stuff that was going on in Salem and the
adventures they would have over there. So this, you know,
they already did this. FBI is a team up with
Rafe and Kat. Now they're bringing Eli back into it.
It's bit. It was mentioned this week that Andrew is
keeping an eye on things. Remember because we actually both
Andrew and and Paul, because we recall that Paul actually

(01:27:24):
joined the ISA with his husband. So now you have
them too, you know, off screen, but kind of keeping
an eye on things. And Andrew mentioned that he was
he was actually Cat's handler. Yeah, so now it's there's this,
there's this slow weave of all of these characters slowly

(01:27:45):
being tied in to this. Then you have the little
complication of Cat may have a history with EJ that
neither one of them is fully aware of. I think
the potential for this is delicious. And I used that
word because look at all the eye candy. Look at

(01:28:06):
all the eye candy that's in this one storyline.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
Well, you know what, Paul, it's it's good that they
are bringing Paul and and Andrew back in because you know,
what else are they doing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
With each other? We know, yeah, we know they're planning
on adopting. And I was like, no more baby adoption
story lights. I'm done for I know.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
And then they were like they were like, oh yeah,
it's such a long process, so much paperwork, blah blah blah.
It's like Chanel and Johnny like they had their interview and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Like it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
I know, I don't know if it was I'm know
it was meant as a dig, but I took it
as a dig and I appreciated the dig that uh
that Paul said, Oh, they named him. They took the
name John and they took the name Paul. And I'm like, yeah,
that was supposed to be for you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
I wouldn't mind Andrew sticking around a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Oh, one thing we forgot to mention was Marlena and
her Oh Marlena had her episode. They went to the
hospital and then Sarah got a phone call about, Oh,
Marlena's cardiologist, specifically Cardiolo. It wants to see me. So
there's something up with her, something up with Marlene's ticker.
I think, yeah, that they have. Yeah, we need some

(01:29:33):
movie on that storyline. It's like like it's been dragging.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Now for a while. So yeah, was that our weekend days?
I think, so, yeah, now we move We're gonna move
on to our segments. Here we are start first, going
to start off with.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Ten and this week's caption.

Speaker 5 (01:29:58):
That photo comes Curtis of Belle and Sammy having their
conversation with EJ doing the most in the background. Because
I was not listening to a word these two ladies
were saying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
All I was was Dan Furigal.

Speaker 5 (01:30:14):
At one moment he was just standing still, looked like
he was blank staring.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Then he was like then he took out his.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Phone and I was like, he is doing the most
because he knows he's on camera. Anyway, Mike, excuse me
my caption. That caption goes to Jerry Gallop on Instagram
with their caption when you hear something juicy, but got
to act like you're on your phone to keep it really,

(01:30:45):
But yeah, I was cracking up at Dan. I was like,
this man knows he's on camera. They didn't give him
anyone to interact with, so he's just gonna interact with himself.

Speaker 4 (01:30:55):
I love that because, admitute, we've all done that. Of
our two.

Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
We walk outside and like we're vacuuming because our neighbors are,
you know, fighting, you want to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
And that was tention and next step we have all right, everyone,
I'm taking it back to November eleven, two thousand and four,
where Mickey and Bonnie actually got married just as Maggie

(01:31:31):
returned home from Mela Swan. This is her walking in
and seeing her husband and her maid. Uh just yeah,
just have just complete their nuptials. And after this after
our show, go check out those those are days extended.
I do a little bit of a brief history, or
not a little bit. I covered the brief the history

(01:31:53):
of both Maggie and and Bonnie from them going from
them starting off as enemies to actually becoming friends and
family within the last almost twenty five years that Bonnie's
been on the show now, So go check that out
and take that ride as you go to memory lane
with these two characters who twenty five years ago you

(01:32:13):
would have never predicted that they would they one be
family now and sort of have a sort of tender
loving relationship that they sort of do now, which is nice.
But yeah, that was November eleventh, two thousand and four,
where Mickey and Bonnie got married as Maggie returned home,
and that was, oh well, the next up we have

(01:32:41):
it's a gift.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
So the first it's a gift is are my actual
gift of this week given to mister e J. Demera
just dwn'. That's reaction things like like I just I
want to bottle his just snarkiness. It's wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:33:09):
You know sometimes he does this ship and you're like,
you know, that wasn't in the script for him to
clap like he's at least like close her eyes for a.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
Minute, like try not to, try not to, try not
to giggle. He makes it so to laugh. Yeah, Like
this is supposed to be a serious moment.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
Mm hm.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
Oh, but I love it. So thank you Dan for
for that. Followed up with my reaction to the Week,
which dyl Matthews was kind enough to put my feelings
into gift.

Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
Jer you jopt.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
You.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
I don't think the music is in context, but you
get the point.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Yeah, okay, and that was It's a game all right.
Now we're moving on to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
News and gossip.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
All right. Starting off news and gossip, we have some
casting news here. Lamon Archie has a new Christmas movie
called Christmas by Design is actually premiering this week, November
twentieth on BT Plus. The film is about a handbag
designer whose holiday line is stolen due to a data breach,
forcing her to work with an IT expert who happens
to be the man she had an offerad encounter with
the previous year. A ka La Archie is the IT expert.

(01:34:57):
So go check this out this week. Yeah, nice to
see Lamon in something else we know he does Oh god,
what's the show the college High School? Yeah he does
that or the spin off? Yeah, nice to see him
in any different roles this week.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
These suggestions of the e T plus like I appreciate
photo shopping just a little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
To find a still photo and I was trying because
they usually do not only do they do these ones,
which was driving me crazy. Maybe it's Hallmark they also
do they'll do stills from the movie. So I was
scouring to find a still from them. Ye, believe it
or not, this is the best one. This is. There
were ones that were more photoshop than this, where I

(01:35:48):
was like, is that lamone archy You can't like this one?
You can kind you can kind of tell it. It
looks like they just end up his face too much,
his eyes look at the tea.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
I know, like like again, I appreciate some touch ups
and you know, no, but like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Being sometimes it's like this doesn't even look like a
real person.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
So maybe so maybe Bet needs to hire Michael mads.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Now forget whoever this whole Marks was. It was. It
was literally ving crazy. I was like, God, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Y yes, all right, next step, we have some birthdays.
Happy birthday to Marissa is are Ariana Horton. She celebrated
her birthday this past week. And also happy birthday to
Casey Mosk who's birthday is today, so happy birthday to
lose two. Next step, So we have some good, good,
good good good news off of the reveal that Susan

(01:36:51):
Rogers was battling stage two call in cancer. We can
officially confirm that she is in remission. She was. We
saw her on the gold carpet for the sixties anniversary.
She was talking with everybody, she was laughing, she was happy.
So she's happy, she's healthy, she's beaten it back.

Speaker 5 (01:37:09):
Well done, good for she looked.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Great, glory shed happy, ye wonderful, wonderful for her. And
also I want to mention that it's a testament to
this show that the guys when when when these people
want to keep secrets, they can. They're fully capable. Because
we got the news of Suzanne's diagnosis literally right before

(01:37:37):
she announced that she was in her mission. Same way
like last year when Drake was sick, we didn't hear
about it till the day before he died. So these
people are when something stays in the vaults, well done
on staying in the vaults. Yes, yes, And the next
step we have Carson Boatman and Rob Wilson. If you

(01:37:59):
were looking at the Days of Our Lives studio and
this sort of sixty year segment, Carson and Rob kind
of wrapped up the last decade of the show, which
is two thousand and five to twenty fifteen, and they're
recovering kind of time. I'm sorry, twenty fifteen to present, Yes, sorry,
two fifteen to present. The previous was Eric covering the

(01:38:21):
decade before that, and they kind of got into the
weeds a little bit of their darker side of their
characters with Rob's first time around playing Ben Weston and
his serial killer era at Carson remembering his time playing
the Devil and the Red Suit, and it was they
have a lot of fun with that. It was a
lot of fun. I guess it's going to play with

(01:38:42):
a bad guy.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
Yeah. So you can find that video on the Day's
Peak pok on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
And next time, we have some really really amazing news,
big big congratulations to Lucas and Shelby Adams. They're expecting
the first child in February. They did some really really
great photos here, one of which you can see here
where you can check them out on Shelby's Instagram and
also Lucas's at Lucas Adams on Instagram. Really really happy
for these two, like perfect timing, like he's starting a

(01:39:14):
new started a new job like these you know, and
if you if you had the pleasure spending time with
this club, they're really cute together. They're adorable. And yeah,
the rest of Lucas and Shelby, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
Yeah, yeah yeah. Next up, Start Image Entertainment had their
bowling night last Sunday here in La Activity last weekend,
so that's why Mental Madis was not here, and Michael
Madis took this photo of everybody. You want to talk
a little bit about that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
Yeah, it was fun, just you know, a good afternoon
of bowling and drinks and lunch and uh yeah, everyone
was in good spirits.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
A couple of the cast.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
Members were a little you know, know, worse for where
coming off of the night before.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
It's all good, No, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
It was a fun time. It was a good time.

Speaker 5 (01:40:10):
What was really funny was that a lot of the
fans that were here in town, like they they were
going straight from bowling to the airport to go home.
So like there was this area of of of the
this area the red like all these suitcases were there,
and I was like, what's with all the suitcases?

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
And she was like, oh yeah, a lot of people
are going straight to the airport from here.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
And I'm like, I don't have an emmy to do
that anymore. Like I know I have an event in
the afternoon. I'm not flying out till the next morning.
That's too that's too much.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
And these people live across the country like they're taking
rise and then going to work next education to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
These people want to come to a day's event and
came in for the weekend, and to them for getting
their money's worth. Yeah, no, it's a good time, good time. Yeah. Cool.
Before we head out, we want to give you a
little let's take a little sneak peak of next week's

(01:41:05):
days of our lives. Next week on Days of our lives.

Speaker 7 (01:41:09):
If she's just trying to get under our skin, Kristen
Demiro missed.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Check what that? It's what I have to do here.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
I thought you had your anger under control.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
No, when you tell me you're going after my wife,
sons papers.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
Pray, what did you do.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
That little demon child?

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
You're gonna try to kill Sarah, I think, right, so
there's the one person she would right, I don't know all.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
That's are off with that little girl.

Speaker 5 (01:41:52):
I wouldn't put it past Sarah to say something and
be like, really, bitch, well here's some peanuts for you
or whatever she's allergic.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
Yeah, yeah, right, next that girl, that girl, that girl.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
Needs to go to like the whatever, the children's version
of Children's Bayview, Children's there's got to be Children's Bayview.
That girl, this whole, this whole like, oh, we're just
gonna let her live her life and hopefully she remembers it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
No, put it away.

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
The theme week seems to be a nerve y'all got
serve audacity?

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
Yeah, well we will see it looks like, yeah, it'll
be a good week. It looks like their stuff is progressing.
And then they're picking up the Xander Sarah stuff, so
that'll be good and well hopefully we'll get some answers
to the Kristen and Kristen Tony Tony cliffhanger we got.
So yeah, that was a week of phases. Everyone, thank
you for joining us. We appreciate it. And before we

(01:42:52):
head out, finally, you know where you can find it.
You can find me sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:42:58):
You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at mL Madison,
m l M Images.

Speaker 6 (01:43:02):
L A.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Can find me on Instagram at Justin Harold.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at T
three two three are Sally.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
Find Tony everywhere at Lundi with Tony and please go
check out his Bravo con uh clips and info. And
I'm sure he's headed home now, but go check it out.
He's been there all weekend Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Yeah. And then you can follow all of us on
social media Edition Day Facebook, Edition Days on Instagram, and
Edition Days on X and threads. Thanks of everyone. We
will see you again next week with all four of us. Yeah,
have a good week.

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