#809 - Trump's Terrible 22nd Week

Tucker v Ted, Iran, Asbestos, Flag Poles and Turtles. It's all part of Trump's America. More at dogmadebate.com

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Neil de grass Tyson.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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co host Travis Kleiburn. How you doing, I'm doing all right, man.
It's been a crazy week, as they all are.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, it's escalating, I feel though, you know.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, well yeah, that's I mean, there's the silver lining
in the gray dark cloud that is MAGA is going
to war with itself.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, yea.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Trump wants to go to war, and that's making Magga
go to war.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
And I mean it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Very often that you get like a gourmet cookie, frosted
cookie with sprinkles on it, in the form of political discourse.
But man, there's a clip that we've got that just
for me, I like to say and you'll have to
excuse me, folks. It's a little it's a little profane.

(01:29):
But the Tucker Carlson Ted Cruz fight I like to
refer to.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
As a cook fight.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Why don't we go ahead and listen to that just
so I can enjoy it?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, play the whole thing. It's gonna be great. How
many people living around?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
By the way, I don't know the population at all. No,
I don't know the population.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
You don't know the population of the country you seek
to topple?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
How many people living around?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Nine eighty two million? Okay? Yeah, how could you not
know that?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the
overthrow of the government.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Why is it relevant whether it will because ninety million
or eighty million or a hundred million?

Speaker 5 (02:13):
What?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, because if you don't know anything about the country,
you didn't say I don't know anything about Okay, what's
the ethnic mix of iron? They are Persians and well
presuminantly Shia.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Okay, you don't know anything about Iran?

Speaker 4 (02:26):
So okay, I'm not the Tucker Carlson bird on Iran.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
You're a center who's calling there the one government, the
one about the country.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Eight.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the
one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Who can't figure out, say General Solamoni, and you believe
they're trying to murder Trump?

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them
in retaliation.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
And if they really believe that carrying out military strikes today,
who said Israel was right with our help? I'm said
we Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
Well this you're breaking news here because the US government
last night denied the National Security Council Spokesmanlex Fifer denied
on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's
behalf in any offensive capacity.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
We're not bombing, then Israel's bombing. Then you just said
we were. We are supporting stakes.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
You're a senator if you're saying the United States government
is we're with a run right now people are listening.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Goodness gracious me, wow, amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I mean that was what was that the four hundredth
time I've watched that, and I still enjoyed every second
of it. I gotta look, uh, I'm gonna say props
to Tuck.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That was actually good journalism.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, those were the questions you should be asking somebody.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, we're seeing his privileged upbringing in fancy boarding schools
he went to in action. Finally, Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Turns out he knows how to do journalism when he
has to brilliant question what's the population? I don't know.
I don't memorize population charts. No, no, No, it's relevant because
it's twice the size of Iraq, which was a disaster.
And you should know the ethnic make you should know

(04:13):
everything about a country you are advocating the overthrow of Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean it's not like it's not like we've ever
made this mistake before, you know, going into a country
not knowing it's ethnic mix, not knowing how any of
it works. It's you know, it's inner politics. You know,
it's not like we've ever done that before.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I mean, it's the fact of the matter, is I mean,
America's got a a bad track record when it comes
to wars. In the last fifty years we have you know, yeah,
hasn't hasn't been our strong point invading countries and thinking
we can do regime change. And yet for some reason,

(04:56):
it's a lesson. We don't seem to be able to learn.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
No, must have been nostalgic this week seeing the level
of an anti particular country propaganda coming from the anti
Iran propaganda really brought me back to like three oh four,
you know, with Iraq propaganda really was a real throwback
to to my high school year. So it was pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I mean, it's almost identical in a weird way where
it's weapons of mass destruction again that the people that
would know say there are none, and the people who
want war say there.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Are yeah, yet again, yet again.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
In fact, Donald Trump's intelligence chief, Telsea Gabbard, the Director
of National Intelligence, said that Iran has not been pursuing
a nuclear weapons program since two thousand and three, if
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, Well we were, weren't we in talks with Iran?
It wasn't there. What didn't Biden and Obama?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Obama, we had an obumber deal, which was we were
going to monitor them. They were going to be allowed
to enrich uranium to the point where they could use
it for energy, and they would not be allowed to
use it to the point where they could enrich it
to the point where they could use it for a weapon.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
They would be inspections regularly.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
The inspectors would be able to go to any facility
anywhere at any time and inspect to make sure that
they weren't doing it. And in return, there was going
to be a loosening of sanctions. There's going to be
a freezing, I mean an unfreezing of Iranian funds that
had been frozen after the revolution in seventy eight, seventy nine.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Whenever that was. It was a good deal, but Obama
did it.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
But Obama did it.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Got to get rid of it, man.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, So Trump pulled us out of it and now
is trying to get back into it. And it's not
going well because this guy named Bibi net and yahoos
who has literally claimed since I think thirty years ago
was the first time he claimed that Iran was three
months away from I'm having a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yes, I know. The Daily Showed did a great job
of compiling clips of him claiming Iran definitely, definitely is
about to build a nuclear like weeks and weeks they
are going to have it. I believe they go they
at least compile them from two O two and up.
And I know he was saying it pre obviously pre

(07:23):
uh the Iraq and Afghanistan war.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Look, once again I have to say us atheists, I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
We're right. Religion is the problem.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I mean I've expanded it to people believing anything based
on no to bad evidence. Is the problem with the
world today, probably has been since the beginning.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
But as this is a religious war, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Take religion out of it, the zelots on one side
and the zelots on the other side, and the problem
pretty much goes away.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Oh yeah, man, I read you a text that was
sent from Mike Hunkabee to Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I saw it, but please read it to me.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
All right, this is it in its entirety. I apologize
it is a He's a texter, you know, he sends paragraphs.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
A god and he is an ass kissing.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Oh man, lunatic. Oh yeah, well here we go, mister President.
God spared you in Butler PA to be the most
consequential president in a century maybe ever. The decision on
your shoulders I would not want to be made by
anyone else. You have many voices speaking to you, sir,
but there is only one caps voice that matters his

(08:38):
Oh caps voice. I am your appointed servant and the
God that's so gross. I am your appointed servant in
this land and am available for you. But I do
not try to get your presence often, because I trust
your instincts. No president in my lifetime has been in
a position like yours, not since Truman in nineteen forty five.
I don't reach out to persuade you. I only encourage you.

(09:00):
I believe you will hear from heaven, and that voice
is far more important than mine or anyone else's. You
sent me to Israel to be your eyes, ears and voice,
to make sure our flag flies above our embassy. My
job is to be the last one to leave. But
I will not abandon this post. Our flag will not
come down. You will not seek this moment. Sorry, you

(09:22):
did not seek this moment. This moment sought you. It
is my honor to serve you, my cuckabee. Jeez, Louise's
slobbern on it.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Man, It's not just the slobbering. It's literally saying, if
you hear voices in.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Your head, act on them. Yeah, do what the voices say. Hey,
the voices tell me to burn things. Yeah, I mean
listen to them.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, they absolutely do. I mean I I had a
moment of clarity this week. I was listening to a
podcast of liberals and lefties, and I've heard this so
many times and I've had a freak belly full of it,
which is atheists who are annoyed by atheists, Like liberals

(10:08):
are always like, oh my god, atheists are the worst.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh they're so annoying.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I mean, I agree with them, there's no God, and yes,
probably most war and problems in the world would go away,
but not at the expense of my Instagram feed, Like
I'll take war rather than some guy railing against religion.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
God. Yeah, it is wild that they do agree. I mean,
even liberals and leftists fight all the time because even
though they basically agree on all the same things, liberals
are just like annoyed by the existence of leftists or progressives.
Are people more left than them? Yeah, and they're just like,
I mean, I agree with everything. You're sad but this,
but you're also like fucking annoying. You're annoying.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
But it's crazy where it's like, I think the reason
that atheists are kind of loud and proud about trying
to push reason and logic into the world is that
we see the harm being done by religion. And it
seems to me, and I've said this so many times

(11:15):
before now because I know it's wrong, blows my mind
that it's wrong. But it seemed to me that it
should be pretty easy to convince adults that fairy tales
aren't real. But it turns out no, Nope, good luck
with that one. Do we have a pip of Donald
Trump actually dismissing Tulsi Gabbert his Director of National Intelligence's.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Assessment of the situation.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
We sure do. It's the beginning of this one. Here
we go.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
They didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
What intelligence you have that Iron is building a nuclear weapon?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Your intelligence community has said they have no evidence that
they are at this point.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well, then my intelligence community is wrong with the intelligence
community said that.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
You're a Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbert.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
She's wrong.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Wow, he's wrong.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Everything about that is crazy. And let's start with the
first thing that why is he just hearing this?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well, I mean he won't attend his fucking briefings. He
refuses to read his intelligence briefings.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I mean that's mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
The president of the United States with missiles flying in
the Middle East and him supposedly making a decision as
to whether or not we're going to go into the
Middle East into a war. Is just hearing from a
reporter as he's has The President's on his.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Way to go golf. He's on his way to go golf,
and he's hearing from a reporter.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Your national intelligence chief said they are not pursuing a
nuclear weapons program. Yeah, eh, she's wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I've got better information than her.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, information he literally wats watched on like Oayn or
Fox News Baby Break.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
He heard it from Putin, He heard it from That's
where he's getting his information from.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Fair fair enough. I mean that's where they're getting their
information from too. Let's be honest.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
I mean yeah, although, to be honest with you, Putin
would tell him the honest the opposite because Putin is.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Allied with Iran.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, I did think there would maybe be some tension there, right,
because there's I mean, they've had a partnership for a
really long time, so right.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
But I would say that Putin, if I were to
put on my demonic hat, evil piece of garbage hat
for a moment, that the idea of America being weakened
militarily on the world stage is probably more appealing to
him than one of his allies taken a few missiles.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, because I can't see any of our other allies
being behind us going into this war or especially I
mean there's been I don't I don't know if any
of this is true. Yet again, most of its speculation
because the White House right now is an information nightmare
and there's people leaking things quote unquote. But like they've
talks of bunker busters, there's talks that there won't be

(14:01):
enough they wanted to use tactical nukes to potentially take
out their their nuclear infrastructure. I mean, and again nuke
that's all talks. Yeah, that's what. Yeah, which, by the way,
that would be the most amazingly hypocritical thing because then
at that point, America would have been the only country
again to have ever used nuclear weapons, and where it's

(14:24):
using our nuclear weapons to make sure that they don't
have nuclear weapons because we're so afraid of their nuclear weapons. Yeah,
I'm like, that's that's the most hypocritical should I've ever
heard of in my life. Like they should take ours away.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
But yeah, the idea that we're going to nuke the nukes.
At that point, you might stop and say let's step back.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, once you got to the point where.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
You're like, we got a nukeleos nukes before they nuke
our nukes, then we'll nuke the nukes and the nuke.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Like then then we'll nuke the nukes nukes and this
mission cycle and also his temperament about all of this.
So I got a clip for you, only ten seconds
here of him when he was that is his big
pole erection or whatever you know he's making.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
He wouldn't say the word though you would say it.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Starts with an E.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
This was.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
This is his temperament right now about this whole situation.
I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even
do it.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
You don't know. I may do it, I may not
do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.
I can tell you this that.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Aram's got a lot of trouble I can do. Who
knows what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's not that's not leadership, by the way, Hey yeah,
and it was the moody nature.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know it's driving me crazy. This is so serious.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I Mean, a leader has a point of view, a
position in fact, they are founded. They have these core
beliefs where you can kind of predict what they would
do in any given situation by because of the core
beliefs that that leader has has projected into the world
since day one.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
And that's the problem with having a malignant narcissist as
the president, because you know, we've had some socio passed
in the past. Obviously a lot of presidents happened, but
a malignant narcissist, specifically, his only philosophy is me, me, me, me,
and I I'm the best.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
You don't know what I'm gonna do. I could do anything.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, he can't do anything I want my party.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, he's literally a toddler. Toddler.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I mean, it's crazy, honestly.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I mean that that is kind of the whole thing
about being the American president is that you are predictable,
that you go into office with an agenda, with a mandate,
with a vision. And he went in with the no Wars.
I'm the no Wars president.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh, he said it over and over again.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
He said it over and over again. So you know,
the no wars president. His position on attacking Iran is
strike while the irony is hot, because that is precisely
what that is.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Man. Yeah, and what a shame about us recording this
in the afternoon on a Friday. Is it has been
reported that potentially, if he is going to strike, it
will be this weekend, and he wanted to do it
on the weekend, well the stock markets are closed, because
he felt it wouldn't affect the markets as much if
they attacked on a weekend. Man, there's another thing just

(17:17):
floating around out there.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I honestly don't know, because with the way that this
is polling and the way that his base is actually
for the first time ever kind of stepping up to
him and saying.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Nope, yeah, Well, I mean we were kind of seeing.
I think the essence of that Tuncker and Ted Cruz
clip is we've always were already on this podcast manytime
talked about how Tucker is heavily paid by Russia. He
did that weird hour special about how do Russia is

(17:51):
and definitely didn't do it for free. And then you know,
Ted Cruz has taken probably about one point eight billion
in total or a million from APEC. So we have
two different people being paid by two different countries. Yeah,
and they're just they're colligning with one another. So we're
true We're seeing two foreign powers just pop a teering

(18:13):
these two people. And it's really the only reason that
they're fighting it because like usually they can wavelength, they've
got their right wing think tanks, but not this time.
Too much money coming from too many different directions.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
That is so true. I mean you might as well.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean you can see nt Yahu's hand up, Ted
Cruz's ass in, Putin's hand up, Carlson's ass Oh yeah,
that is.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
We'll see. Man.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
When you just said about this weekend kind of scares
me because that sounds like something that Trump would do, Like, well,
the markets are closed, we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Freaking bomb Ran and then what and then what the
market's kind of open back up? Man?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
And well, it's not only that Iran has to retaliate
and then we're in a war.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
And also I pulled up a map just some wanted
to see, just you know, having been coming from a
military family, and I want to see how many how
many military bases are around Iran And there's so many
within striking distance. I mean, if they can hit Israel,
they can take out I believe it was forty and
like a perimeter around Iran. Essentially that's so many American

(19:14):
lives just boom boom boom, and they wouldn't hesitate if
we struck.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's scary when you think about it.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
So moving on, I suppose I saw this story which
just spoke to me. I mean, for one, what we're
doing right here and now, which is trying to put
out information into the world in hopes of doing good.
But that's exactly what Voice of America is. Do you
know what Voice of America is?

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I feel like I've heard of that before.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
It's a broadcast we have where we try and disseminate
well US and international news, politics, human rights, science and technology,
health and culture, and we broadcast it into countries where
they do not have freedom of press, specifically into Iran, China, Russia,

(20:10):
and North Korea. Now Iran being on the list, there's
one that Trump doesn't like. Russia and North Korea are
his friends. So we've been doing this since World War Two,
where we would broadcast I'm sure you know about Tokyo Rows, Yeah,
Radio Free Europe, Tokyo Rose. We would broadcast into Japan

(20:31):
and they would broadcast back towards our troops.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
We did the same in Europe. That was radio free
europe A.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Voice of America has continued doing that ever since World
War Two, where we broadcast into countries where they don't
have access to this Russia, North Korea specifically, so this headline,
Trump has a completely decimated Voice of America with six
hundred and thirty nine terminations this week, which basically leads

(20:59):
to the end of Voice of America. We are no
longer trying to push I don't know. I mean, if
I put on my rose colored glasses freedom democracy into
these parts of the world, specifically Russia and North Korea.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Sounds like it rubbed his friends the wrong way. That's fair.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
I mean, what could be the reason for that?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I have absolutely no idea. I mean that even like
I just I'm looking from his perspective, like, wouldn't that
be good? Couldn't you further propagandaize into those countries? But
I guess, I guess. You know, they told him they
didn't like it, and he stopped it. That's the only
thing I can think of, only.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Thing I can think of other than saving money while
we try and pass the big beautiful.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Bill, Yeah, which seems hopefully to be a bit dead
in the water.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I don't think so. They're going to kill it off
at the last minute. Somehow.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
They always do that too, don't they. They sneak in
in like the middle of the night, passed somehow. I
don't even understand how that's legal.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Traditionally speaking, when a new president comes in, they get
one big piece of legislation, right, and this is Trump's.
That's why they wanted the big beautiful bill, because this
is all the legislation that they would have passed in
four years. Because they know that they'll get one and
then never pass anything else again.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
So let's pass it all in one.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah. And it is dense. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I mean it's not going to fundamentally change the United
States of America if it passes, which I think it.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Might so.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Hopefully not, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Speaking of people being decimated, here's the headline that I
found very interesting, specifically because I had a j sixer
on the show last week.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Pam emp Pill.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
If you didn't listen to that episode, I do advise
that she is.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Aka Maga Granny.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
She stormed the Capitol, was sentenced to federal prison, and
she had an awakening and she has rejected Trump's pardon,
to which he took her up on the offer and
has rescinded her pardon officially. Officially, But I saw this
headline and it made me think of Pam, So this

(23:17):
one's for you, Pam. Trump pardons allowed recipients to skirt
more than one point three billion dollars in restitution. President
Trump's pardons and clemencies allowed recipients to get out of
paying more than one point three billion in restitution and
fines to the victims, to the capital, you name it,

(23:38):
to the cops that they put in the hospital or killed,
to their families. All these people were dud were due
restitution by these convicted criminals. As part of being convicted
is you have to pay back your victims. All of
them got out of all of it. One point three
billion that they don't have to pay to the victims

(23:59):
of January sixth.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Now, Jesus, and now I know, I believe it was Okay,
I'm trying to look up an article here, because I
believe it was the mental anxiety and anguish from those
events I believe led to four or two yeah, sorry,
four officers took their own lives after post January sixth

(24:22):
as a result of the mental trauma sustained. So obviously,
more than we even realize, and more behind the scenes.
There was so much damage done to these people. I mean,
not to mention the lawmakers there that were, you know,
imagined scared for their lives.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, and just for the record, they were also on
the hook for the damages to the Capitol building, right,
which now we have to pay for it. So they
stormed the capitol, destroyed it. We have to pay for
what his followers did.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Of course, I mean, they're loyal boys and girls at
his orders. Yeah, excuse me, excuse me.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
He said go peacefully to the capitol, to which I say,
I have a million in one arguments against that. But
here's here's one that So then why did he pardon them?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
They made him look bad?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
He said, go peacefully, and they didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Pardon those people.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, if anything, they're bad.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, I agree at them.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
He should have been, like I said, go peacefully and
look what you've done.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Something about this doesn't quite add up. If I were
to put on my thinking capital.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
It never does.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
It never does, never quite adds up. I will say
just in that, when in reading about the restitution, I
did come across more than one major news outlet saying
Trump pardoned all j six convicts, to which I was like, direction,
all but one.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
He rescinded. Pam handpills.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Shout out, Pam. Shout out to Pam. You're a legend.
I've got some more Trump related news. We were as
far as this is some is brand new, just dropped uh,
and this this is Uh. We're tying back to Russia,
like like we always do with Trump. You know, we

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tie right back to Russia.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
All roads lead to Russia.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
The Trump administration will reconsider a ban on the use
of asbestos in the United States that took decade long
battle to be finalized, sparking concerns among health advocates. What yeah,
and I mean I kind of bury there, you know,
gave it away a little bit. But who's the number
one exporter of his best ofs.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And we're still making his best os?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Oh yeah, maybe they make it says. In twenty twenty three,
Russia exported two hundred and seventy nine million dollars worth
of asbestos, making it the largest exporter of asbestos that
has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to
cause mesothelioma, a type of basically incurable lung cancer. It
is really dangerous. It shouldn't be anywhere near any human

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beings it. And he's like, no, we're going to stop
the ban, and hell, we might start imboarding it. We
might start bringing.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
It in from Russia, as he's putting tariffs on everybody
but Russia.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And you like, I'll do you one better.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
That carcinogenic cancer causing stuff that is banned in this country.
Lifting the band and we're buying as much of it
off of you as possible.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Who's going to buy it?

Speaker 3 (27:41):
What builder is like, Oh, thank god, the asbestos is
back on the market.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I don't know. I know, when it comes to any
like labor unions and stuff like that, one of the
first jobs you get, or at least my age when
I was trying to find a job when I was
a young twenty year old man, first job you get
if you try to join the union as bust us remover.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, So like there's enough where they take all the
new hires into labor unions and you're like, your first
job is clearing out cancer causing materials. I mean, you'll
be wearing a suit, don't worry. But like, I don't
know that there's any of it left in America at all.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Not anymore. Baby. We're making America great again.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, dude, making mesothelium a great again.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Back in the good old days, whether it was asbestos
and everything. That is a crazy story. And this one
is a little bit related. If I and tell me,
if you saw this story, the Trump EPA is telling
staff to stop policing the oil and gas companies.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I did not see that.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
The Environmental Protection Agency has told staff overseeing the countries
and industrialized Midwest, a region plagued by a legacy of pollution,
to stop enforcing violations against fossil fuel companies.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Multiple sources told CNN.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Why why, why are we doing this?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
We're making America great again. Bring it back the asbestos.
We're gonna pollute the air again. Back when America was great. Yeah,
in the fifties and the sixties, back when they would
take nuclear waste. Do you know this how we used
to deal with nuclear waste.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Didn't we just dump it where we couldn't see it anymore?
Wasn't it a very out of sight, out of mind?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Very much so.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
But just even the process by which we did it
is pretty incredible. We would put it in you know, canisters,
put them on military ships, take them out to the ocean,
dump them in the ocean, and then shoot them full.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Of hats so they would sink.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
But no, it was the thing. I don't know if
you know about this.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
When you put a hole in the container that the
nuclear waste is in, the nuclear waste gets out into
the ocean.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, and that's how Godzilla was made.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
If you know that, dude, I would not be surprised
if we found out that he's bringing that back.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah. Actually, he's mad that we never made a Godzilla,
so he's like, we need to put more into the
ocean so we can get a Godzilla. Yeah, so what
I didn't know that. That's that's I love that the
fifties were such a wild time. That's why when he
talks about that being the greatest era, I'm like, the

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amount of just confident, evil shit like industrialists we're doing
is so scary, like post World War Two, like you know,
as the Baby Boomers were being born and the quote
unquote greatest generation, we're doing heinous things, heinous crimes all around.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well as I'm sure you know the era of the
robber of the Robber Bear of the Robert.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Barons, you know, the carnegiese and such that the billionaires
and the oligarchs we have now, if adjusted for you know, inflation,
are way richer than they ever were in the era
that where we said, Okay, this has gone too far,
we need to pass legislation.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Absolutely, but now it's back.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's back worse than ever. That's not the fifties, that's
the nineteen twenties.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, which again led to the Great Depression because of
the giant income inequality. And then we you know, and
then we fixed it, and now we're going to fuck
it up again.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
You know, I'm going to go deep.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I'm going to do a deep inside baseball reference and
say Trump is going to bring back the Triangle shirt
waist factory of New York with that was one of
the worst disasters in American workers' history. The Triangle shirt
Waist Fire was a company in Manhattan.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I believe all women work there.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I think it was basically a clothing manufacturer, and they
would lock the employees in. They would chain the doors
closed so no one could leave during the day.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I think this is nineteen tens, nineteen twenties. I could
look it up.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
That checks out, And yeah, there was a fire and
everyone burned to death, and that was one of the
things that led to regulations.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
That's also so crazy to me that that's what leads
to regulations. That's why I get so upset with libertarians
because I feel like they really don't look back at
all the horrible things companies will do, no like if
they have no regulations whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, but let me put on my libertarian hat.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
It's a very put on my hat episode, apparently, but
my libertarian hat. Yeah, if a company murders all their employees,
people will stop buying their product and that will.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Be their punishment.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's never how that's worked.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
If I buy company makes poisonous food, people will buy
it and I'll go out of business, no regulation needed.
And it's probably true that if your food is killing people,
people will stop buying it.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
But you've done nothing to address the fact that you
killed people.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, there's no law saying you're bad for killing all
those people.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
You can't you can't get those people back. Yeah, it's
like there's got to be the first person to eat
the poisonous food.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh well yeah, whoop. See. Oh, that's my argument was
always like, all right, say that you're a home builder,
and you know you've built these houses that will one
thousand percent collapse in ten years and it will definitely
kill the people living there, and there's no regulations at all.
You build those, you're the most popular seller, you make

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billions of dollars, and then nine years in you're out
of there. And then of course there's no regulations. You know,
you move to another country, all the houses collapse, all
those people die, and then you can't be held accountable
because there are no regulations. No one said I couldn't
build a house that would definitely kill the family in
ten years.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Sounds like freedom to me. Man.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, here's another headline from the energy sector. Trump Energy
Secretary Chris Wright one confirmation by touting his experience in
the solar industry, but after an investigation, it turns out
there is zero evidence he has ever recorded he has

(34:25):
ever worked in the solar industry, according to records reviewed
this week.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
He meant, just lied. He meant he's been in the sun. Yeah,
he's been to the beach. Yeah he knows about the sun.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, I was in I was selling hot dogs and
soda pops on the beach when I was a teenager.
That's the solar industry get rid of the sun, and
those customers wouldn't have been there. They were there for
one thing, and one thing only for solar.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
It was an umbrella salesman, specifically solar umbrellas. That's it. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, I mean, just how do you keep up? I
can't keep up?

Speaker 3 (35:11):
These are these are the stories that get by me.
It's I go searching for this episode for stories that
got by me, and they all got by me. Yeah,
oh yeah, exception of Tucker and Ted, Like you're.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Like, what what that happened this week?

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah? I know, and that Stes got by me.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I don't know how that sounds like such a big story.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
This one got by everybody. This is from June thirteenth.
I have, by the way, I want to say, before
I read this, I have double and triple checked this.
I have checked it on Snopes. It seems so crazy
because I found out about it today via TikTok, because
sometimes TikTok isn't just for brain rot. And I almost
didn't believe the picture was real that they were showing

(35:54):
it seems so absurd. So let me let me just
read you this headline June thirteenth, and this is from
Army dot mill. This is the official Army website. Army
launches Detachment two oh one Executive Innovation corp Corps to
drive tech transformation. The US Army is establishing a Detachment
two oh one, a new initiative design to fuse cutting

(36:16):
edge tech expertise with military innovation. So on June to thirteenth,
the Army will officially swear in for tech leaders. Depart
Two one one is an effort to recruit senior tech
executives to serve part time in the Army Reserves as
senior advisors. In this role, they will work on targeted
projects to help guide rapid and scalable tech solutions to

(36:39):
complex problems by providing private sector know how into uniform
to Department two one is supercharging efforts like the Army
Transformation Initiative, which aims to make the force leaner, smarter,
and more lethal. Now Here are the people in the
private sector that they are making. By the way, Lieutenant

(37:01):
colonels a rank that takes up to twenty years, these
guys have not been through basic training elected state. These
people are just tech bros. So Army Reserve, Lieutenant Colonel
Chiam Sankar, chief technology officer for Palenteer, Oh Boy, Andrew Bosworth,
chief tech CTO of Meta, Kevin wil CTO of Open AI,

(37:28):
and Bob McGrew, advisor of Thinking Machines Lab and former
chief research officer for Open AI. So they have what
do you think, Michael, I.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Think that the robots are going to kill us all
very soon.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's the basically the goal of this.
They have just taken the private sector and fused it completely.
I mean in those companies Meta, Palenteer, Open Ai, like
three of the four horsemen of the AI apocalypse that
will soon be upon us. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
There, and they're they're hooking their AI up with the nukes.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
It's literally Terminator, That's that's what.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Happened, And that's actually what happened.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
It's actually what happened a Germinator. It's close to what
happened in Matrix. It is.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
These Yes, they were sci fi movies, but there was
a warning they're in and I mean, while we're at it,
I mean the creators of AI of the most knowledgeable
experts in the field, I think slightly more than fifty
percent of them have said unplug it.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Now, yeah, before it's too late. Before They've been warning
about a A for the last ten years, and I
feel like I almost feel like there's like a like
a Silicon Valley death cult. And I know for a
fact there is a large group of Silicon Valley people
who do believe their mission is to create God uh

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in the form of an AI.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Right, that is Roku's basilic Do you know this?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, which is uh? Isn't it like?
Isn't this whole? It's kind of like a philosophical thought
process too, where it's like, if you've ever done anything
bad to the AI, but you the AI, I don't
explain it for me.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I think you're close. But yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
So it's the idea that the AI will become all knowing,
all powerful and control of the world someday, and that
all knowing, all powerful AI will of course go back
and look at everyone's texts at Facebook messages and posts,
and you were talking about the AI before the AI
even existed.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
The AI is going to come after you, So it's.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Best to worship and respect the future AI now while
you still have a chance. Get in on on groveling.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Now, Wow, it's like a It's like a It's like
a neo feudalist, like a cyberpunk Pascal's wager. You know
what I mean. It's terrifying.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Elon Musk met one of his girlfriends through a message
board where they were pontificating on I might be saying
it wrong. Roku's basilik basilic something like that.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
I know basilisk because of Harry Potter. Say it again, basilisk, basilisk.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
It is a I believe it's a type of giant snake.
Let me look that up before I.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Be What happens if you ask Ai what Roku's basilik is?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Will it come to a?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I say something you should be paying very close attention to.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
So, just in general, a basilisk a mythical creature with
a rich history mythology in folklore, often depicted as a
serpent capable of killing with a glance. So it's a
big snake.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Wow, I'm asking A. I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I'm asking about Askai about the Ai death.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Machine that still.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
It'll remember this virgilia. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Roku's basket is a hypothetical scenario proposed in twenty ten.
On the less Wrong form, it revolves around a future
super intelligent AI. The basilis that might retroactively punish anyone
who learned of its potential but didn't actively work to
bring it into existence, using this threat to incentivize cooperation.

(41:34):
So what it's actually saying is, if you're trying to
stop AI, like you and I just have get you
on the list.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Oh we're cooked. Yeah, we're we're done for We are
for sure on the list.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Nerds, they will kill us all I know.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Someone was talking online and I really appre I'd never
put this together before, but they said we are. Because
of course there's tons of antificating type intellectual nerds out there,
but he says their biggest fears. We're seeing the rise
of the anti intellectual nerd, and that is somebody who
is somehow, you know, maybe into nerdy things or likes

(42:16):
nerdy stuff, but doesn't like thinking about it too much. Like, oh, yeah,
that's kind of that is a very good way to
kind of sum up someone like a musk. And some
of these gen Z kids that are online, they were yeah,
angry about everything.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, super intelligent, but anti intellectual.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Nonetheless, which is I don't know. I'm having trouble understanding that.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
I mean, I mean, I don't know. Look when you
start looking into Curtis Jarvin, who JDBLS and others look
out to, and like this new philosophical right wing movement
that's happening, and then you add in, I have an
episode coming up soon. I reached out to an expert.
He's going to help me out with this. But do

(42:59):
you know nar is nar No, the New Apostolic Reformation.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Oh, the church that was Oh we haven't talked about. Yep.
The assassin was part of that church erect exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
This is some wacky, crazy anti democratic like it is
literally no joke Handmaid's tale, and there are millions of
people in this country trying to make that into a reality.
And I can say that with some confidence because a
gunman who adheres to this philosophy slash this loose conglomeration

(43:34):
of churches that are the New Apostolic Reformation killed.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, attempted to kill four people, kill two people.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, and had a list of far more on the.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
List yeah, which, by the way, I can't remember the
name I'm sorry of The senator who survived was shot
nine times I know, amazing as many times as fifty cent,
I believe what a gangster. That's that's incredible he survived.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
When you think about like these tech bros, the AI,
the New Apostolic Reformation, climate change, fascism, totalitarianism, oligarchy, religious
wars all happening at the same time, it doesn't bode
well for the human race.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
It does feel a little bit like we are all
really obsessed with the idea of the apocalypse, not even
on a from a religious standpoint, Like obviously, we've got
the right wing here who are basically wanting us to
invade Iran because they believe in Israel so much, because
they're such evangelicals that they want all the Jews to

(44:41):
go back to Israel so the world can end. So
we've got that level of doomsday cult in office. Sadly,
but yeah, you're right, there's there's there's just the like
a bunch of tiny doomsday cults and monarchists like that's
what you're talking about, Curtis Yarvin guy, which I wants
to literally take us back to having a one percenter

(45:02):
king and lords, and I mean at the end of
the day, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Almost theater Teal and JD. Vance.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
They read this guy, they like this guy. They consider
him to be, you know, on the cutting edge of
twenty first century thought.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Which he's such he's such a bitch. I just I
don't know that's such a reductive thing to say, but
it's every time I see him, I'm like this weird
leather jacket wearing stringy hair man.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
By the way, clear in case anyone doesn't know, Curtis
Jarvin is a tech bro who has dipped his toe
into philosophy. And his philosophy is that America needs a king,
that democracy doesn't work, which you hear all the time
New Apostolic Reformation, those folks totally against democracy, like anti
democratic forces in the United States of America. He thinks

(45:57):
we should have something like a CEO. Now, he called
himself a monarchist, but in reality, if you read his writings,
which for whatever reason I did, he he wants a CEO,
which is that is to say, total power. No one
can question him, but there's a board that can fire
him if he goes too far. But while he's in charge,

(46:19):
he doesn't have to get approval or go through anybody.
So goodbye, Senate goodbye house, goodbye Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, and he says monarchists, but he wants a dictator.
He wants because they also the core belief that they
have and we can always we got always remember this,
especially as people who come from a working class or
middle class background, or even an upper middle class background.
These are very rich people with very rich parents who
believe that if you aren't rich and wealthy, you are
a dumbass and your vote shouldn't count as much as theirs.

(46:50):
They are geniuses, they have all the money. Absolutely is.
They are rich supremacist.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I had a friend who I love with all my
heart and soul, but he has been making a hard
right turn in the last couple of years for whatever reason.
And I'm not really sure why. But he said to me,
super smart guy.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Guy is a master's degree.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
He said, if you have a company, and you employ
thousands of people, and you pay millions and millions of
dollars in taxes, and you give back to the community,
why shouldn't you have a larger voice. Why shouldn't you
have more of a say in what happens in this
country than some lazy dude who works at you know, seven.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
To eleven because because then, I mean, already the deck
is you already, by the way, you already fucking do
have a bigger say. You can pay for it. You
already have a different say. The only thing that can
fuck up your bigger say is grassroots movements from working
class people. But yeah, you are just one guy. You

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shouldn't matter more than everybody else.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Right, and you're going to look out for yourself and
not other people. Yes, that's the number one reason.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
More.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, since Citizens United, but even before that Buckley Vvaho
and other Supreme Court cases that was allowed money into politics.
Ever since money was allowed into politics, Yeah, the money
goes to the people that support the interests of the rich.
The people that support the interests of the rich vote accordingly,

(48:31):
and over the course of thirty and forty years since
these Supreme Court rulings first happened, the rich have their
interests looked out for far more than the poor, obviously,
because they have the money to have their interests looked
out for in the legislation that gets past favors the.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Rich, which I don't even understand how your friend could
think the richest vote doesn't already matter more. I mean,
we're already in a system with some moderate checks and balances,
and look how disproportionate it is. Like, look how lopsided
that rich people say and sway is or the market
is over the opinions of politicians. I mean, how much

(49:10):
worse could it get?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Look, the fact of the matter is with the Electoral
College and the Senate, which both put a big fat
thumb on the scale for conservatives and Republicans. They've had
outsized influence in government for.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
A long long time.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
But even that's not good enough for them anymore. Well,
they're saying, is that this back and forth of sometimes
we get a Democrat in power, sometimes we get a Republican.
Sometimes the House goes Democrats, sometimes the House goes Republican.
There's a large chunk on the right that's like, we're
not really interested in that anymore. Absolutely, Like if democracy

(49:50):
means that sometimes there will be a Democrat as president,
we're not into democracy anymore.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
We're out.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
We're not a big fan. We like when our money
keeps going up and sometimes it levels out when there's
a Democrat, and we're not into that. You know, it
very rarely ever goes down, but you know it goes
up more. It never goes down.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Since it is June and we had June teenth. I
thought this was an interesting story slash disgusting story. Trump
fails to mark Juneteenth, federal holiday celebrating the end of
US slavery, of course, but then I looked into it
and he did say something on June teenth. Donald Trump

(50:36):
failed to mark Juneteenth, commemorating the end of slavery in
the US, until he posted on Thursday night that there
are quote too many non.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Working holidays in this country already. That was it.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
That's all he had to say about our country ending slavery,
commemorating the end of slavery. He had one thing to say,
which is too many holidays already?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, why aren't people working more like when they were slaves?
That's why, that's why it's sprung into his head. Get
to work, Why aren't you working for me?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Get to work?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Get out there.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
And there are only five non working holidays like June
teeth wasn't he isn't even technically a non working holiday
MLK technically not a non working holiday. There's only like
five of them. I think that's not a lot.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Get to work is basically what he said.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Get them back to work you peans.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Goodness gracious d. I think I saw that, and I
think at one point he said, the people don't want
these non working holidays. He likes to invoke the people. Yeah,
of course people don't want to have a day off.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
No, he met, he mis steward his people.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Oh yeah, his people.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Because if you have to pay your employees to take
the day off and they're not working for you and
you still have to pay them, they're unhappy.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
And those are his people. The people love national.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Holidays when we get paid to not go to work
one day.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I also love that he thinks. I mean, he you know,
he just kind of takes in whenever his friends are
telling him or the rich people around them tell him.
But like he's never talked to working class people. You know,
he doesn't know what they're doing. There was no more
evident that the right never talks to working class people.
But they they they love riding their coat tails there

(52:35):
and you know, riling them up more than Tucker Carlson
when he was going against John Fetterman. Or he's making
fun of John Fetterman, which sadly Fetterman I feel like
grifted us all. Or I don't I don't know what
happened with poor John Fetterman. Yeah but John for one, Yeah, which, Hey,
turns out something happens to your brain you become more

(52:56):
right wing. Who, yeah, brain damage the right wing? Yeah,
who knew everybody everybody? Yeah, But Tucker Carlson was making
fun of the fact that he wears a hoodie. And
if you know Tucker Carlson, he loves to do these
photo shoots in his wood shop, which has no sawdust
in it, by the way, and he wears the red

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flannel because in his rich mind, that's what working class
people dress like. And he was mocking John Fetterman of
this guy pretends he's working class. He wears a hoodie.
No working class man wears a hoodie. And I heard
that while I was at the time working at a
machine shop in twenty twenty one, wearing a hoodie. I
look up at the five people I work with, all

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wearing hoodies, and I'm like, this man's never even met
a working class guy. He has absolutely no idea.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Really, he chose his working man outfit off of brownie
paper towels.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
He absolutely that's the only working class man he's ever seen.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Like he's buying of course he's not buying in his story,
but he had them in door, dashed to his house.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
He's looking at the brawny guy.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
He's like, that guy looks like working class.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
I'll get one of those shirts.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
He absolutely does.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I have just a few more stories. I was gonna
hit real quick. This one just isn't even a story.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
But Don Trump Junior opened the Executive Branch.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
It's opened.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
We've talked about it on the show before.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
That's right, I forgot, but it's now opened.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
The Republican only exclusive club in Washington, d C. Which
to get in not a big deal. The initial fee
first is five hundred thousand dollars and then there's yearly.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Fees as well.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
But to join just half a million dollars. And they
actually advertise it as a place to hobnob and rub
elbows with the Trump administration officials. Jesus, sounds like buying
access to me.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
And it's now open.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, I mean, we were worried that the you know,
his crypto dinner would be a chance for him to
you know, these people, to buy access to the president.
But that was just true. You know, that was just
an appetizer of access to Trump. You know that was
that was that was we need a club, a full
time club.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Yeah, I mean five hundred thous Oh.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
By the way, just because I was reading about it,
a condo in the building that the executive branch in
goes for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So for
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars you can buy a condo,
or for five hundred thousand dollars you can walk through
the door of this place once. Yeah, and then you

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have to pay the additional fees that come on top.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Of it, I mean the fee of having no dignity
because you joined Donald Trump Junior's club.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
I mean, honestly, what could be more than trying to
hang out with Donald Trump Junior? I mean that's yeah.
I mean, can you imagine the cocaine budget of that club?
My god, I make the joke all the time where
I say, at this point, just about any Republican could
be called Donald Trump Junior.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yeah, you're right. I think honestly, I think Trump would
prefer that he clearly invisibly hates his son. Yeah, both
of them.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Hearsay, hearsay, But I did do a deep dive into
Don Junior some years ago and Don Junior's friends. I'll
say that one time Donald Trump came to pick up
Don Junior to take him somewhere and didn't like what
this is when Don Junior was in college. Yeah, didn't
like what he was wearing, and he berated him in

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front of his friends to the point that it was
just embarrassing where everyone was like, holy cow, this guy's
dad is the biggest asshole ever humiliated him in front
of his friends.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Hey, and he's trying to fill that hole in his
heart with cocaine every day.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
You know.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
I honestly think it's something more along the lines of
the Elon cocktail. I don't think, oh yeah, well, he's
got like an adderalled out vibe to me.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah, real manic but not too jittery. Yeah, yeah, I
know what you're saying. Yeah yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Either way, Well, I will say that the Congress passed,
there was the Senate passed the Genius Act, which is
a crypto thing which is going to enable Trump and
his stable coin because there's the meme coin, which and
then there's the stable coin, which is USD one, which

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is part of World Liberty Financial As you know, I
try and follow this crypto stuff as close as I can.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, I'm sorry you have to do that.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah kidding.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
It's like basically like I have to play Dungeons and
Dragons once a week when I'm researching this and see, okay,
the wizard spell. So if you, I mean, that's what
it all sounds like to me. Yeah, I mean, do
you know that crypto mining is solving complex like math problems.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Yeah, it seems to me. And maybe maybe you can
tell you if I'm right or wrong or in the
right trail here. It's kind of like the algorithms for
the stock market they uh, they you know, there's there's
all these algorithms out there and basically if you're smart
enough to understand them, they'll just offer you a job
because you can understand that they basically don't make any sense.
And I do feel like crypto is that in a

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lot of ways, Like if you really understand what's happening
in the in the the mining, or I don't even
understand what's going on, then then you probably just will
make a bunch of money scamming people off crypto.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
So yeah, but when I learned that, because I did
when I first heard about crypto. I was like, Oh,
crypto is what happens when a bunch of dungeons and
dragons playing nerds get confused and think that the coins
given to them by a wizard were real, and now
they're trying to spend them and trade them and sell.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Them for real money and it's working.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
So yeah, and then I found out that crypto mining.
The crypto miners are solving like these complex riddles or something.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I'm like, it is a wizard. Wizard, It's the wizard
from Monty Python. You can't cross the bridge until you
answer my riddle.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Hanswer me these riddles?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Three?

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Yes, what is your favorite color?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Sorry?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Folks, I had to do it, but we had to
do it.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Oh, so I only have one more story. Do you
have anything else?

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
No, I think you know. I'm sure we've missed some stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I will add to this that.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
In my research about crypto for this episode, because it's
my crypto story of the week, I did find out
that other Trump administration officials with substantial crypto holdings include
hold onto Your Hat, jd Vance, RFK Junior.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Oh also does names sound familiar?

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Also deep in the crypto world. I mean, of course, scam, scam,
economy scam, government scam administration.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah, and every single at this point, every single one
of the cabinets can place it as well. I mean
they know much money they can make off this. But
also like just as a normal politician or a senator,
a congressman or something, you're basically allowed to do insider trading.
And they're like no, no, no, no, no no, we
want to make even more money. But we want to
do it shitty, we want to do it really scum.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Like you know, yeah with the imaginary I mean it's
a giant crypt oh yeah, but it's like it's like
religion in a sense where at this point, like we said,
with the atheists who hate atheists, it's like at some
point like where it's you know where religion. God is

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like you know, clearly imaginary to me. But try telling
that to half the people in the country, like they
honestly think and you will hear religious people say this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
They're like, how could God be fake if five billion
people or whatever believe in him?

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Like you know, it's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Easy, everyone in the world could be duped. It's a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yeah, it's not even hard.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
I mean yeah, and it's turning into that. It's like,
how could it not be money if everyone's using it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
I mean that's basically the modern monetary system anyway, Like
eventually we just all believe this is money. I mean
we took off the gold silver standard. Yeah, and again
even I could go further back because people, yeah, solid
impression by I like to go even further back when
people are like, oh, we need to get back to

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the gold standard. That was real money. And I'm like,
you know, gold's a fucking rock and we made it
worth something because it's shiny and kind of squishy for
a real heavy rock. Yeah, we thought it was cool.
It's all made up, all made up, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Rock.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
But at least we have at least modern currency has
an actual foundation and is a physical object. Like we're
going off the rails into magic money town.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yeah, okay, this is has nothing to do with politics.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
When I saw this story and I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Said, I got I just I have to at least read.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
The headline to Travis, I would love to get.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
His head pilot killed in North Carolina plane crash was
trying to avoid turtle on the runway.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Report shows laugh to laugh. But what is the world?

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
How big was the turtle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
That's what I was Was it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
A teenage mutant ninja turtle?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
How did he even see it? That's what I was wondering.
How did he even see it? I mean, it was
a small plane. It wasn't like a jumbo jet.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
All right, that was what I pictured. I yeah, but still,
I mean even a small plane is pretty big. I mean,
what a nice man. I'll give it to him there exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
I mean that's why it's so terrible to laugh, because
that is really sore, because it's like, what a compassionate
kind guy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
So I'll give you the rundown.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
The pilot of a small plane that crashed near a
North Carolina airport this month had raised a wheel after
landing to avoid hitting a turtle on the runway. According
to National Transportation Safety Board preliminary report.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Wow, so he lands, he's flat and then sees a
turtle and goes fuck and pulls up a little bit. Yeah,
and then everything goes wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
And everything goes wonky and it ends his life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I know. My initial gut reaction was to laugh really
hard and also to think that was kind of stupid.
But the more I do think about it, I think, like,
what a sweet man, I'm sad that really sweet turtle
loving man is. Yeah, it's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
It reminds me of and I'll end on a dark note,
I guess. But there was a story out of Canada
some years ago where a young young woman I mean
seventeen eighteen years old is driving on the highway and
a mother duck and some baby ducks went to cross
the road. She slammed on the brakes and a man

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and his son who was riding on the back of
his motorcycle slammed into the back of her car and died.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, because like there's so many emotions there, You're like,
well it was nice. I heard her not want to
kill those poor ducks and Dutch.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
She killed a man and his son.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Yeah, I don't know. Lately, I've been more team animal
than people because of everything people are doing to the world. Absolutely,
so I do feel a little. I'm actually proud of
that man for saving that turtle. He didn't do anything
to nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
And I'm sorry that I also laughed because it is
kind of a sweet story that like, I don't know
how he saw the turtle, but.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I mean incredible reflexes. But yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Sadly it did not go well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
But let us all look out for the turtles and
the duckies as we go forward in this crazy world,
because they didn't ask for this world to go topsy
turvy on them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Yeah, and everything that's going on with their habitats, it's
kind of our fault. So, you know, proud of this
man for sparing that little turtle. We've done enough.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
I salute you in heaven sir. Well with that, where
can people, We'll find you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Travis Cliburn, uh yet again, I'm at Cliburn Comedy. Check
me out, shoot me an email Cliburncomedy at gmail dot com.
If you've got any I don't know, weird questions or
want us to talk about any particular subject, shoot it
on over, you know, and also stay safe this weekend.
Be safe. Yeah, hopefully everything will be okay and we're overreacting.

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That's what I like to think with.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Trump, We're never overreacting. I agree, sadly, Ooky doke till
next week