#813 - Trump's Terrible 23rd Week - Dogma Debate

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Neil de grass Tyson.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey, I'm Adam Carol Gillette.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
And I am the fourth listener, and.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
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it's the weekly roundup. Can only be one one person
on here with me. That would be mister Travis Clyburn.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Travis, are you doing? Virgilio? You doing all right? This week?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm always doing.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I don't know how.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's weird, Like in Trump's America, you have to partition
your brain where you're like, I personally had a fine week.
America is over, Fascism is here. So did I have
a fine week? Or am I just burying my head
in the sand? Am I being selfish by having a
fine week?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I felt that way a little bit this week, because
I feel like I had a good week as well,
you know, did some fun things with my wife, and
but it felt like doing it in like a burning building,
you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, that is a good analogy a lovely dinner, but
it was in a burning building.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Every once in a while a bus boy would run
by on fire dive out the window to his demise.
But I gotta say the wine delicious. Yeah, I mean,
maybe that's the best you can hope for in going forward.
Who freaking knows. Interesting week, though I was going to start,
there were four major Supreme Court rulings today, and I

(01:47):
found myself rather shocked that I think, I think, and
I want to have this discussion with you. I think
I sided with the six Conservatives on one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Interesting. Okay, so I'm aware one of the rulings, but
the other three I am a little in the dark on.
So I'm excited to see, not excited to see. I'm
terrified to see what they're going to be and excited
to hear what you think about the Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
We'll start with the one where am I not benevolent?
I was in the Young Republicans in high school. Maybe
there's still a little I was a Catholic and a
young Republican, and maybe that is exactly why when you
hear this ruling, why I think I sided with them.
I think I sided with them. I will read the
main points of the dissenters, but that's it. US Supreme
Court backs up age checks for pornographic sites to exclude children.

(02:35):
Court's conservative justices at Texas law requiring online age veric
if a age verification didn't violate free expression. Porn Hub
has gone dark in Texas to protest the law. And
before you say I'm a prude, let me say this
that as a young man who was bound and determined

(03:00):
and to get his hands on some nudie mags, uh,
I found that particularly particularly when Madonna posed nude or
I don't think she posed nude. Like nude photos of
her surfaced in both Playboy and Penthouse published them, and
I was like, you know, a kid, I wasn't even
a teenager yet, but you know, Madonna was on the

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TV every night, and I was just learning what it
meant to be attracted to women. And she used to
prance around in lace BRA's where you could kind of
see everything, and I was very attracted to her, and
I was determined, do you see them? To see one
of those magazines? So I went to the local convenience
store and pretended I was reading Auto Trader Magazine for

(03:47):
a little while. Okay, interesting, that's a good price for
a Camaro. Moving over, I'm nine. By the way, Uh,
let's see here, People Magazine. People Magazine is Tom Hanks
America's new sweetheart. I think I agree. I did see
splash and let's see what this penthouse? Hey, kid, like,

(04:10):
damn it always got away with it? You got an ID? Yeah,
and then maybe as a teenager, you know, when I
went into Boston, the big city for the first time
with my friends and there was Triple X adult bookstore,
I was like, oh, I got to check that out.
And I didn't even get, you know, half a step
in without them saying, show me an ID. So this

(04:32):
is not new, That's all I'm saying. I'm not a prude.
I'm just saying, You've had to show ID to look
at pornography since the day I first discovered pornography. So
I don't know that it is. I guess uploading your
ID onto a website, I guess would be Well, let's

(04:54):
let's go over the points. Well, actually, let me get
your read first. What's your initial gut feeling on this one.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I think I understand maybe what the descent could be.
Maybe it's the idea of them having a database, a
porn database, with everyone's IDs on them. Potentially they could
use that for some sort of blackmail or something like
that'd be like, hey, you wank.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
And I'll tell everybody.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, let's put it this way. If they did implement
this nationwide, they literally would have everyone's IDs like.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you're right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
And by the way, are these not government issued IDs?
I think they've already got them.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, very true, Very true. I could see that being
a centering point. I do agree, though, so and here's
why I agree with you on this. I think I
remember when I was working at Fourth one, I was
hosting a lot. This nineteen year old kid came in.
It's a very gen Z And this was a while ago.
He did a bit talking about when he was sixteen

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years old, he got so hooked on porn, aggressive hooked
on porn that he developed it's become a new gen
Z condition basically called porn induced ED.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
So these are six senior kids.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, porn induced d Yeah, fucking at sixteen years old,
when you could be no more horny than when you
were sixteen years old and they're not able to get
directions anymore when they're with women, Yeah, when they're watching porn.
So if we could limit that happening because you have
no mouse control issues, I mean in your twenties either.

(06:31):
But when you're you know, teenagers, adults.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Look out for children, that's what we do. And when
you're sixteen years old. By the way, I used to
get win induced e. I mean just that direction was
the easiest thing in the world to pull off, if
you know what I'm saying. So the idea that a
young man couldn't get one because he had again, like
I've said this before, and this is just old man talk,

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and that's fine. But like when I was a kid,
with the exception of the porno bags in the woods,
which was my only access to them, if you knew
her to look, and I did, they were always I
love the boy Scouts and the nature hikes because that's
where i'd get my porno fix. I knew which logs
to look under and you could find them. It was

(07:16):
a thing. But with the exception of blurry, wet porno
maags in the woods when I was a teenager, if
you wanted to see a naked girl. You had to
be charming. Yeah, it kind of made you raise your
game a little.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, exactly. You had to have girls actually like you
in order to see one.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Oh yeah, even I'm even old enough. In eighth grade,
I got in trouble and almost suspended for starting a
porn ring. I had a bunny whose mom worked at
movie gallery, you know, back when Blockbuster movie galleries were things,
and they had an adult section, and once a month

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they threw out all the pornomags. And he found that
out and he would get them out of the dumpster.
And then we decided we wanted U Geo cards, and
we decided we started training porn magazines for Ugio cards,
and we technically didn't get in that much trouble because
Yugio cards are not considered currency.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Wow yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
And my two I never held any products, so I
didn't get in that much trouble at all. But my
other two buddies were the distributors.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I mean, I didn't partake in any porn rings, but
I was aware of a few porn rings at my
high school. There were kids dealing in the porn mags.
I saw a statistic and I'm just gonna fudge the
numbers because I don't remember what it was. But like
that by the age fifteen now a young man has

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seen like one hundred thousand times more naked women than
his grandfather had in his entire life.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Like it's I fully believe that. Yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Absolutely crazy again if we're trying to look out for
the kids, and porn induced erectile dysfunction is a thing, which,
by the way, just for the record, as many people know,
I am also a co host on the Jordan Harbinger Show.
From time to time, I do the Skeptical Sunday. We're
about to drop two episodes Penises and then Penis Enhancement.

(09:24):
Nice episodes coming out where we do discuss pide or
porn induced directile dysfunction, because that is a thing, and
I don't want a young man to have to suffer that.
I would look out for them. I would try and
protect them from that. And also because I'm an older gentleman,
I want you to raise your game, like be charming,
learn to get a girl to take her top off

(09:46):
the old fashioned way with jokes and charming and be cute,
and learn to do your hair in a way that
they find attractive or whatever. It is like, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
The youth is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Sexual experimentation is beautiful. You know. I don't know what
else to say. Maybe that's not my role, and that's
not government's role to get you to raise your game, but.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
It should be.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I don't like the idea of a fifteen year old
having access to and that's the other thing, by the way.
Go look, this is just pure old man speak, and
come at me with your slings and arrows if you must.
But here it is as well a little old man speak.
What we considered porno in these porn magazines that we're

(10:34):
talking about, or even porn movies VHS tapes that you
and your friends were trading in. What was considered pornography
back then is freaking tame compared to what you might
very well have access to if you access a major
porn site like pornhub in a way that might be
confusing to you. It's not for kids, it really isn't.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
It really isn't. Yeah, it's lowly divorced men like me.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Who know their taste and won't it's I believe it's
called the hedonist treadmill, and it applies to riches and
stuff like that as well, but can also apply to pornography,
which is, you know, you start out normally and then
you just keep accelerating and you start getting weirder and
weirder and weirder. And when you're young and you have
no impulse control and you actually and you don't also

(11:26):
you don't know what you like, yet you're more inclined
to fall into the trappings of you know, have he
in my mouth? I don't know, well any kind of that. That's
specially don't kink shame, no change sham.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
I'm just saying, you know, don't start with mouth peeing.
You know, don't start with it.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
So here are the talking points from the left. I
tried to summarize them a bit, but basically that this
has protected adult speech more or less and that this
adds an undue burden onto adults that they talk about

(12:04):
parntal content or content filters devices. Age based controls could
achieve this goal without infringing on adults rights privacy risks
from a verification systems. Again, these are government issued IDs,
or I guess if you're giving the ID to porn hub,
then that isn't the government. That's I was just thinking

(12:26):
with my conspiracy brain on. I don't want the government database.
But you're in a porn hub database, I guess. But
there's got to be other websites where you have to
present your ID, like if you're buying I don't know,
like what I've been known to on a Friday night
door Dash a little mare low to the abode, and

(12:49):
I have to show door Dash my ID or upload
my ID to door Dash. Yeah, so that I can
partake in a protected right. I have the right to
drink wine by myself and scream at the TV as
Bill Maher goes further and further to the right on

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a Friday night.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's my favorite Friday night thing to do too, how
do ye know?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
So I don't know, I'm not I'm not convinced. I
guess I'm not with the liberals on this one me either.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
And I don't even I mean conservatives now, especially Project
twenty twenty five, they want to ban porn period. Yeah,
so I think that, And I don't think this is
a first step either. I think I'm in agreement with you,
because yeah, there's I mean, yeah, we do have to protect.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Kids from themselves sometimes.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Absolutely, That's why you're not a legal adult until you're eighteen.
That there is supervision, state supervision, parental supervision. You are
looked after to make sure that you don't fall victim
to yourself, which is what a young person would do
if anyway. Okay, so there's one. The next one, the

(14:01):
big one was. In fact, the next one is interesting
in that it had to do with lower courts issuing
federal injunctions. Right now, the case that was brought concerned
the Fourteenth Amendment aka birthright citizenship. But all legal experts

(14:25):
say that is not that will not be affected by anything.
It's in the constitution.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, nor they actually ruling on the birthright citizenship case later.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
If they are, I did not see that.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
That might be, yeah, because this one was adjacent. But this,
I I feel like this will have pretty aggressive rippling effects.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Absolutely, this is a big deal. Yeah, this was a
big deal. And basically what the court said in the
wiggle room was that the federal court can't issue national
in junctions, but anybody specifically harmed by a law can
go to that court individually. But it's like, so everybody

(15:12):
that like, let's say, let's just use birthright citizenship as
an example, So if you were born in the United
States of America and your parents weren't citizens, be they
here legally or illegally, if they're just here and work
for permits or something like that, and they have you,
and Donald Trump says, do not issue that person documentation,
do not make them a citizen. You can individually sue

(15:35):
the federal government and probably win because the fourteenth Amendment
says you can. But the federal court can't issue an
injunction saying all peoples born here have that right, even
though again the fourteenth Amendment apparently is pretty bulletproof right now,
and it's going to take more than a federal adjunction
or Trump doing an executive order or something to overrule that.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, I think the justice sodo my owor was what
the dissenting opinion, which was a quote from that is
open invitation for the government to bypass the Constitution, essentially,
because I heard the example when I was watching someone
explain it. If Trump signs an executive order to get
rid of guns, let's say the thing that they're the

(16:20):
most afraid of any liberal doing, every single gun under
would have to individually go to courts and be like,
I want guns. Second, Amendment says I can have guns,
but they would be taken away until they individually went
there and individually fought for the Second Amendment right, which
I can't imagine a worse decision. This will break the

(16:43):
court system if he signs me the further crazy executive
orders he signs, I mean absolutely to destroy.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
It, which I'm sure they would love. Clog up the courts,
break the courts. That is one step towards totalitarianism, and
I'm sure that they would like that.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, I will.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
In fairness, might not benevolent. Read Justice Amy Coney Barrett,
who again in at least one of these cases, sided
with the liberals. And you know that I'm slowly turning
into not a fan, but I am thrilled that she
did not turn out to be the sycophantic ideaologue I
once feared she might be. But so she wrote the

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majority opinion for the court, and just a little quote
from that would read, Federal courts do not exercise general
oversight of the executive branch. They resolve cases and controversies
consistent with the authority Congress has given them. When a
court concludes that the executive branch has acted unlawfully, the
answer is not for the court to exceed its power too.

(17:46):
But I don't know, man. Apparently this is slightly ironic
in that these federal injunctions were granted by the Supreme Court.
Is only as far ago as long ago as twenty
ten when the Supreme Court basically said these matters should
be handled in the lower courts with federal injunctions, and
now in twenty twenty five, they're like, no more federal

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injunctions because Donald Trump doesn't wike them.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, I think you might have been a little bit
optimistic there about Amy Cony Perrick. It does feel like
today she fell in line pretty aggressively. Yeah, with the
conservatives at least, especially like I just don't agree with that.
I feel like this could I'd feel like they're really
missing the fourth of the trees on how bad this
could be.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Absolutely, But then again it depends on what their their
goal is. Are they looking to break the court system
with Donald Trump to implement Project twenty twenty five in
a Christo fascist state that would be the extreme view
of it. Or is this just a conservative take you know,

(18:51):
I mean liberal justices. What is the other term they use?
Activist judges? Is this their way of you know, tamp
down the activist judges either way. Terrible decision, not for it.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I agree. There's two more of it I have
not Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
The other two are this one. Amy Coney and Barrett
and Brett Kavanaugh and John roberts sided with the liberals.
And this was just the to keep Obamacare provisions, which
are that basically, it says that insurance companies I believe,
have to give preventative care for free as well or

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as part of their insurance policies. That is to say,
whatever it is that you would consider preventative healthcare. They
tried to overturn that, another attempt at knocking one of
the legs out of Obamacare. And yeah, it was John
Roberts Sonya Sodemayer, Elena Kagan, Amy Cony, Barrett, and Katanji

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Brown Jackson all voted to keep that provision in place.
So Brett Kavanaugh, Yeah, did you tell him that beer
was considered preventative care?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Well, Honestly, the reason I could see conservatives keeping this
is mainly money reasons. Because if you deny preventative care
when they're sick as fuck and you don't have a
choice but to pay out you know, for a Bombacare,
Medicaid and Medicare, it's going to cost you more money

(20:25):
because you have to do life saving surgeries and treatments.
But if you cover a little bit of the preventative care,
so I think they could I rationalize.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
It as just a money saving option.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I could definitely see that. But I bet you that
those insurance tables show that if you deny preventative care
enough people go straight to the graveyard and not to
the emergency room, that that's a different insurance companies problem.
Then that's the life insurance company's problem, not ours. I
don't know. That was a wild guess, but there has
to be a reason that these insurance companies don't want

(20:58):
to pay the preventative care because if they realize that,
hey we pay a little bit up front, you know,
the old announce of prevention is worth a ton of cure. Yeah,
I mean, that's all they have are what are they
called tables? What are they insurance tables or something like that.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
There are algorithms they use to determine who lives and dies.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Basically, but they must be aware of the fact that
the prevent and the preventive of care must be more
of a financial burden than not, so that's why they
tried to get out of it.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
It's more constant.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
I mean, if you really look at the stats of death,
I'm sure it's more likely that people won't die in
a hospital. They're probably more likely to die for other reasons.
So they're like, but they're going to get that preventive
care anyways, right, get hit by a bus. It's America.
They get shot, so you can figure they're probably hoping

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that it would cost more for them, because everyone needs
to get preventive care, but not everybody needs life saving
medical treatment.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
So yeah, again, if you give somebody inventive care for
their heart health or something like that, or if you
don't give somebody preventative care for their heart health, how
many fifty sixty percent I'm just making it up. How
many times does that heart attack kill you and you
don't go to the emergency room, you just go straight
to the morgue?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Oh yeah, especially if you've got your plaque builds up
high enough. There's no amount of time that can help you.
The whole bill Verdi, that's all special called the drop
dead years. You know, you get to that age you
never taken care of yourself. Your blood is filled with
bacon grease, and you just die. It is a real possibility.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Wow. Yeah, you're kind of scaring the hell out of me.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
You're okay, You're in la. I'm sure you eat green
things every now and again.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Every now and again. I gotta up up up the
green things. Okay. Final Supreme Court ruling in this had
to do with religious freedom.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Freedom.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Supreme Court ruled on Friday that Marylyn parents who have
religious objections can pull their children from a public school
lesson using LGBTQ storybooks. Ok They said that basically, if
your religion has an objection to LGBTQ lifestyle and the

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school is trying to normalize those lifestyles, you can pull
your kid out of the school legally, or at least
out of the lessons legally. T which I say, But
there's a trillion religions. I mean, there's more religions than
there are people, or there's as many religions as there
are people, I would imagine, because everybody's got their own

(23:38):
version of whatever the hell it is they believe. So
where do we draw the line here? What if there's
a religion out there? I'm thinking about my interview with
the author John Collins that I just did this week
about the New Apostolic Reformation movement. If you haven't heard it,
amazing episode, check it out. But he talks about how Christianity,

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particularly Evangelical Christianity, used to talk about the curse of Cain,
which was that black people were the spawn of the
serpent in the garden. I didn't, even, to be honest
with you, I've studied a lot. It wasn't. I didn't
realize they said Eve fucked the serpent and made and

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But we're not so far away from somebody having a
religious objection to a school teaching that all races should
be treated equally. Yeah, and I'm sure there are religious
elements out there that still teach stuff like that. Like
where does it end? What if your religious beliefs, if
you're so fundamentalist that you're a flat earther, do you
get to pull your kids out of science class?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
That is definitely the slippery slope that you're headed down,
especially if you have creationist parents. Therefore, your creationist kid,
you know you don't have to learn about I mean
that trickles. If you're a Young Earth creationist, that trickles
down to I don't know, geology, chemistry, I mean almost
every everything, all the sciences. Yeah, maybe not. Maybe they

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can get away with physics, but then they could just
write God did it, and then you know, be done.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I mean, not really with physics, because the age of
the universe don't exactly line up with the creation story.
Now they start teaching, yeah, the Earth is six the
universe is six thousand years old, but God created with
the appearance of age.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, Oh that's the same as God put dinosaurs in
the earth to test our face.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I mean, do you know why they say that? Or
they're justification and they think this is a knockout punch.
It's like, once again, color me a little unimpressed. But
they're like, now, did God create Adam a baby? Did
he create Eve a baby in the fairy tale that
you're referring to. No, No, he did not, So why

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would he create the universe a baby universe? He created
that looking old as well? Oh good boy. Teaching in
science class, folks. The amazing point they got me.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
I heard yet again one of my favorite quotes, which
is everything is a conspiracy if you don't know how
anything works. Yeah, and I love that quote so much,
but it applies also so amply to religion because it's
everything is impressive if you.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Don't know anything. Yeah, and that's one of those lines
of I remember that.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
What was the does it David Cameron and the guy
with the banana who's like the atheist worst nap man.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Oh, that would be hold on, I got it.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
That's a ray comfort, Yeah, the atheist first nightmare of
the banana, not knowing that we cross bread bananas until
they look like that, so they're literally man made.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, which is so fucking funny. But like when you just.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Don't know anything, everything's amazing, you know what I mean,
Everything sounds so cool.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
My catchphrase that I came up with that I like
is you can't get on the same page as someone
that doesn't read.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I mean, yeah, that kind of sums up Trump's America absolutely.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
So the next one is a clip Pam Bondi, Attorney
General to the United States of America. We've all watched
the news in the last few weeks, particularly here in
Los Angeles, but it's national news. It just HAPs to
be happening here in Los Angeles. Of masked plane clothes,
ice agents, disappearing people into unmarked cars, and when this

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was brought up to her in a Senate hearing, she
said she didn't know what they were talking about.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Let's see, and Senator Peters, that's the first time that
issue has come to me about them. You're saying the
law enforcement officers when they cover their faces, right, I
do know they are being doxed, as you said, they're
being threatened, their families are being threatened.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
It's again I get that, but they have to identify themselves.
There isn't insignia. Oftentimes, they have to identify themselves as
law enforcement. People think here's a person coming up to me,
not identify covering themselves their kidnapping. They'll probably fight back.
That endangers the officer as well, and that's a serious situation.
People need to know that they're dealing with a federal

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law enforcement official.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Senator I would be happy to look at that issue
with you and talk to all of our partner law
enforcement agencies, but I can't assure you that if they're
covering their faces now, it's to protect themselves, but they
also want to protect all citizens, and that's something we
can work together on to ensure the safety of everyone
and their families.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
And it's protecting themselves too if they identify themselves. It's
not just the person, because someone's going to fight back.
If you just think a strange person with their face covered,
it's throwing.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
You into a van.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Most people will resist that.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
It sounds like you have a specific case, and I
would we will have happy to talk to you about
that at a later time, because I'm not aware of
that happening, but I'd be happy to talk to you
about that.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
We'd be happy to do and I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Not aware of that happening. Okay, two takeaways from that.
For one, she said, we're trying to protect citizens. Well,
the people they supposedly are grabbing are non citizens, so
you're not There is an admission in the omission there
if you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, she said citizens with some spice to it as well. Yeah,
I want to protect citizens. Yeah, give a little gave
a little link.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
And what's with ice agents? Why do they get this
special exemption that they get to be scared that what
they're doing will get people angry at them. It's like
cops have to identify that you have to if you
ask a cop what's your name and badge number? They
have to tell you.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Oh but ICE doesn't even have to identify themselves at all, Yeah,
at all?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
It seems well, I mean, when people ask for warrants,
they say, we don't have to show you that. I've
seen people say show me ID and they say, we
don't have to show you that.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, but by who's authority? Like, is there any ruling
that they're allowed to do that or are they just
running amongk Would Marjorie Taylor Green say gospacho style?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
You know?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Did she say? Really?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
She said? Joe Biden's gaspacho police is what he said?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
She said, this soup is warm, it's supposed to be
served cold.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Put some ice in it.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
So I mean that's just beyond bullshit and that is
offensive and disgusting that she's pretending she doesn't know what
they're talking about. And I just don't understand why do
they get this special exemption where they don't have to
identify themselves, They don't have to show badges, they don't
have to give their name, their badge number, or even
show their faces.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, I'm shocked that they that no ICE agents have
been killed to be frank, I.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Mean, or somebody's comeback swinging at him.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I mean, yeah, I mean they do bum rush people, man,
like they do come up. They feel like they lay
in wait and then they bum rush people. And there
has been great examples. I've seen Portland, Seattle, stuff like
that of Ice getting chased out of the town, which
is I think good to see. But I am amazed

(31:07):
that nobody's hurt any one yet, or at least the
ICE agents.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah. I just there's something going on here and it's
ugly stuff. Man, and her feigned ignorance is offensive to me.
At least admit that you know what's going on. And
speaking of ICE, the eleventh person to die in ICE
detention center occurred this week. Authorities in Canada are seeking

(31:35):
information about the death of a forty nine year old
Canadian man who died well and use US Immigration and
Customs Enforcement custody in Florida this week. In a statement, ICE,
part of the Department of Homeland Security, said Johnny Noviello,
forty nine, died on the twenty third of June after
being found unresponsive at a federal detention center in Miami,

(31:56):
where he's being detained geez person to die in their custody,
and he's not an old man, although they are grabbing
and beating old men as we found out this week
as well, particularly the father of three US Marines.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, this is all I mean, what can I reape
relations with Canada and not get any worse because I
know Also today Trump's says US will cease trade negotiations
with Canada. So yeah, not only do we kill one
of his citizens for no reason that I could imagine,
but now we're not even going to trade with him.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
No.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I mean, Trump's on a bender, a tweet storm so
to speak today, and we're going to get into that
in a moment. But people dying in their care and
as we know, they're disappearing people into third world gool hogs.
And now this Florida. Have you heard about the Florida
alligator alcatraz.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I I didn't know those one of those things I'm
rolling through social media, I see and I just scroll
past real fast because I'm like, that can't be a thing,
you know.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I'm like, I'm just gonna not believe it.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, let me remind you of a idea, and this
is not me kidding, folks. Look, it up. Donald Trump
once suggested digging a moat along the Mexican border and
filling it with alligators and snakes.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
So Florida went, well, we already have the Everglades, which
are full of alligators and snakes. We'll put at attention
center there and we won't have to have as many guards.
Will save money because the alligators and snakes will guard
it for us. And they are going ahead with this
alligator Alcatraz in the Florida Everglades and it's a five

(33:50):
thousand detainee facility where they are going to literally be
intense in the Florida heat, at humidity and bug and
if you try and get out, you might make it
past the guards, but the alligators are going to get you.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
That's unbelievable. They do have the brains of children, you know.
That is the idea of an eccentric child, that is not.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
An evil e centric child.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, a little kid that's like, I'll build a moat
and I'll put alligators in it.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
It'll be awesome. Like that's that's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
And yet this is exactly where we are. Ron dysanctimonious
uh Big advocate for his alligator Alcatraz of course. So
here's two stories in one. You tell me if they're related.
The US Embassy in Haiti has now. On Tuesday, the

(34:50):
US Embassy and Haiti urged all US citizens to abandon Haiti,
leave the country quote depart Haiti as soon as possible
end quote. Wrote on X.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Huh interesting, I wonder why.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
They do that.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
And in other news, the Trump administration has announced that
the Caribbean country citizens would no longer be afforded shelter
under a government program created to protect the victims of
major national disaster's conflicts, such as in Haiti. So the
country's too dangerous to live in, but if you're from there,

(35:30):
don't bother seeking asylum in America, and those that have
asylum in America you have to go back.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
I mean, it's again the dehumanization of these people, I
mean people of color, immigrants in general. Yeah, they don't
give a shit what happens to him once they're gone.
It is very they are very out of sight, out
of mind people.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Concerner or do you think people have it worse in Haiti?
Or rich white farmers in South Africa who own a
lot of lands.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I hear there's a genocide there for Gilio.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Clear, I will say this about Haiti or Haitians, and
forgive me if my source is not perfect. But I
did hear that they're eating the dogs, they are eating
the cats near my hometown up in Springfield, Ohio.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, and I gotta say, I mean this, the best
thing that could ever happen to Springfield, Ohio would be
oh shitload of Haitian immigrants.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
It is a shithole city. It is really Oh.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I mean, they did a bunch of there was a
lot of journalism on that, and people went and like
the factory owners there were like, holy cow, give me
more Haitians. These are amazing workers.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
And I mean, if you, you know, look at it
from a capitalist point, they they can barely pay them,
and they'll work really hard because they really would need
the jobs. And the fact that we hate it's such
a weird thing to demonize too, because the people that
benefit the most from this immigrant labor is wealthy conservative capitalists.

(37:08):
I don't understand how theyre all of a sudden it's
such a big problem, or why they want to implement
all these things when they make so much money.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
From bringing these people in.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Well, I've played the clip on the show before, and
I wish I had it loaded up right now, but
I can summarize it. Milton Friedman, renowned and revered a
conservative economists, to a speech in the eighties where he
said illegal immigration is great as long as it remains illegal.
I'm all for it. He's like, these people come over here,

(37:38):
they work hard, they pay taxes, and they get no benefit.
They don't get Social Security, they don't get Medicare, they
get nothing. They just come work hard, pay taxes and
it costs us nothing. So conservatives actually used to like
illegal immigration. It's I'm not I am against the system

(38:00):
that would take advantage of disadvantage people like that, exploit
people like that. If you're gonna let them come here
and work, you should extend to them the benefits that
should be afforded them. I'm not saying citizenship as much
as work papers or temporary status that. But the fact
of the matter is the Conservatives used to get this,

(38:22):
and American companies used to actually advertise in Mexico basically saying, hey,
if you can get up north, we got a job
for you. I mean, we were enticing them into America
to be illegal aliens, and it worked out okay at
one time for a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
No longer.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
I know you're saying, you're not saying citizenship, but I
personally am saying citizenship, because if.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I can saying citizenship, I'm saying, we don't even need
to go that far. I personally would say that, right,
But the system exploits them one way or the other.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, but at least if they and that's why they
won't get citizenships, because then they have to pay them
what they pay us citizens.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
And they get their Social Security check when they retire,
and they get Medicare and Medicaid and all those things. No,
I'm definitely saying, Look, it's a complex issue. It's a
super complex issue where it can't be you know, get
your butt to America and you get citizenship. It has
to be people that have been here for a certain
amount of time, are established, have a home, have a residence,

(39:22):
have a job, which is still in the tens of millions.
Those people should be given citizenship. And guess who agrees
with me, Ronald Wilson Reagan. Did you know that he
gave citizenship too. He gave amnesty and then citizenship to
all illegals.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I did not know that he did.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, it was. I couldn't tell you what years specifically,
but the last time amnesty was offered to illegal immigrants
was under Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
They have, but they just like trickle down, have economics.
They don't like all that other shit that he did.
It's like the money he made him from the deregulations
they don't like, you know, I mean why.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Trump doesn't like him because he had good hair. I
gotta say, yeah, great hair, thick brown hair. And it
was a controversy because I'm a political nerd and I've
read every single political book there is. It's actually a
controversy at one time where people thought Ronald Reagan dyed

(40:27):
his hair, and he came out and proved that he
did not really, so it was really estnut brown hair
into his seventies, impressive, good jeans. Some people gray earlier
than others. You know, Steve Martin, he's been gray since
he was like thirty years old. Steve Martin probably earlier
than that.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, he went ghost white almost immediately. Yeah, it happened.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
My good friend Robbie Folks, one of the best bluegrass
guitar players in the world. Got to perform both on
Kimmel with Steve Martin recently, and then did the Hollywood
Bowl with Steve Martin the last week, and Steve and
Martin short have now asked my friend to join their

(41:12):
traveling comedy show as a guitar player. So big, big
shout out to Robbie, folks. If you've never listened to him,
you haven't heard of him. I you may or may
not know this, folks. I love me the guitar, and
bluegrass wasn't even necessarily my thing, but Robbie is the
best guitar player I've ever seen in my life. Okay,
plug for Robbie folks in the middle of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, congratulations, man, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
So let's see. Let's how do we hit this Iran news?
Should we start with the Trump tweet or the news?
Let's start with the news. Iran basically is pulling out
of the i a e A, the International Atomic Energy
Association because of the fact that we bombed the hell

(41:58):
out of Iran's nuclear facilities, apparently not crippling them. I
like to say, totally obliterated. Might still describe Pete Hegseith
on any given Friday night, but it apparently does not
describe Iran's nuclear facilities.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, by the way, we called it, or I remember
saying there were speculations you called it. Yeah, oh, thank you,
thank you, thank you for the credit. Uh yeah, I
figured that was going to happen. And of course as
soon as podcast posted on Saturday, the bombs had fallen, but.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
We had already recorded. So yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
But your own record notating it here in the Ledger,
Travis predicted the very difficult prediction that the United States
of America would bomb the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yes, something that's never happened before in my lifetime.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Okay, so what is the IAEA. It doesn't matter that
Iran is pulling out. For years, Iranian nuclear sites have
been under strict IAA inspections, including by constant video feed.
But it appears that around moved stockpiles of highly enriched
uranium from the facilities before they were bombed by Israel
and the US during the recent wars, putting them out

(43:08):
of the view of US observers. So we had these
nuclear facilities where they had their enriched uranium. It wasn't
enriched to weapons grade, but it was enriched using the centrifuses,
but they were being inspected strictly and on you know,
on demand. The inspectors show up at any time. Plus

(43:29):
there was a twenty four hour video feed going to
the IAEA where they could watch the action and what
was going on at these All of that is gone now.
And the message sent to Iran was the same message
sent to Libya, and the same message sent to Saddam Hussein.
And the lesson, quite frankly learned by Kim Jong un,

(43:51):
was the way you keep the United States from invading
you is you have the nuke. Yeah, that's why South
I mean North Korea has gone nuclear. Nobody can mess
with them now. Chances of an invasion next to none.
Now Iran has gotten the message loud and clear. So
I would say that despite Donald Trump saying that their

(44:12):
nuclear capabilities have been obliterated, which again intelligent reports say
they have not, including European intelligence reports, not just our own. Uh,
they're gonna now, They're going to hasten their road to
nuclear capabilities.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Of course they are. Also.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
I love that he said on his his truth his tweets,
he said, CNN, of course fake news totally obliterated right
and not and way more words, and then he immediately
is following truth was h, we have to put leakers
in jail, literally implying I just.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Lied to you.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, the people who leaked this accurate information should go
to fucking prison. That's that's exact what he said. He
can't help but tell it himself. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I know. And by the way, I know of a
couple Russian prostitutes will tell you that Donald Trump likes leakers.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh the PP tape.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Thank you. I'll never forget the PP tape. So I
was I saw clips of his truth to the Ayahtola,
because that's how you communicate in Trump's White House, You
truth at people. So does the iatola have to get
truth Social now? Anyway? The sad news is.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Does he have to log in? Because I didn't find.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
The entire truth or tweet or whatever the hell you
call it. So for the first time in my life,
I had to go to truth Social and who knows
what cookies they used or information they've gleamed from me.
You're a list, Donald Trump wrote to the Iota untruth Social,

(46:01):
because that's diplomacy for you, folks, quote Supreme Leader end
quote Iotola alkohameni or how do you say his name?
It's no Ayatola of the war torn of the war
torn country of.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Iran says the guy who just bombed the country.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I just forgot.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
We'll go into your house for juliole in here, man.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Trash the house. And then you're like, fucking house is
a shithole man?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Okay you live here?

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah? Okay uh uh oh So actually I missed it. It
started with the word why why would the so called
supreme leader Ayatola of the war torn country of Iran
so blatantly and foolishly that he won the war with Israel?
What he knows? The statement is a lie. It is
not so. As a man of great faith, he is

(47:04):
not supposed to lie. That's the biggest liar in thistra
of the world who also claims to be a man
of faith. And by the way, is he tried to
shame him like because my mom used to say that
to me as a kid. Michael, Jesus knows when you're lying.
Is that what he's saying? He's like And by the way,

(47:24):
Allah knows if you're lying.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Mohammed will hear you don't do it.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
His country was decimated. His three evil nuclear sights were
upliperal illbliterated, and I knew exactly where he was sheltered
and would not let Israel or the US Armed Forces,
by far the greater and most powerful force in the world,
terminate his life. Okay for one weird flex weird threat.

(47:55):
And also, what do you mean he would not let
the US Armed Forces turn the commander in chief. They
just do whatever you say. It's not like they were like,
let us add him cheap. Yeah, put no boys, pull back.
They just do what you say. They follow orders.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
That's literally the whole thing about being a soldier. You
do what someone tells you to.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
The Uh, this is all caps.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I mean most of this is all caps. I'm trying
to accentuate the all crabs words, but this whole sentence
is all caps. And I don't feel like screaming. I
saved him from a very ugly and wow, he said,
I don't even know how to say this word. It's
a big one, ignominious death. What does that means? I've
heard it before. He was trying to type something else

(48:44):
that auto corrected. I G N O M I M
I N I O U s ignominious.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Ignominious look a look at him using a fucking.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Uh, deserving or causing public disgrace or shame eh party risked,
ignominious feet.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
This is the amazing part. So we just bombed the
hell out of his country, killed god knows how many people.
Next sentence, and he does not even say thank you,
President Trump. In fact, in the final act of the war,
I demanded that Israel bring back a very large group
of planes which we're heading directly to Tehran looking for
a big day perhaps the final knockout. Tremendous damage would

(49:31):
have ensued and many Iranians would have been killed. It
was going to be the biggest attack of the war
by far. During the last few days, I was working
on the possible removal of sanctions and other things which
have given a mutt, which would given him a much
better chance at a full fast and completely recovery. The
sanctions are biting, but no, instead I get hit with

(49:52):
a statement of anger, hatred and disgust. He's talking about
the guy he bombed.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
That's nuts, man, I Rigilia, I punched you in the face.
Why are you so mad at me? I don't understand
why you're mad at me.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I mean, it just keeps going. That's the thing about truth.
Does everyone have no word limit on this or is
it just him?

Speaker 1 (50:12):
You're reading multiple truths. By the way, this is one.
Oh you know he said no word limit? Yeah, yeah,
you know that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
I mean, he keeps going. I don't even want to
he finishes with. I wish the leader of Iran would
realize that you often get more with honey than you
do with vinegar.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Oh really, what would bombs be? Would they be vinegar?
Would they know those honey bombs? Yeah, hit him with
a honey bomb. I heard reporting also that they gave
him a twenty four hour notice. They were like, we're
gonna buy them, and then they just moved all their
shit out anyway.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, that's what I was saying. The IAEA suspects that
they moved it all out anyway.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
So they they didn't really do anything here.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
And also, I mean, people definitely died, particularly from the
Israeli bombings.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Would imagine is really bombing? For one, I have not
heard a single word about the death toll from the
bunker busters.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
So those are what thirty thousand pound bombs? We dropped
six of.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Them, fourteen I think is what GPS, the mouthpiece of
the president said, what's that woman's name that missed?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
No lips?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Oh that would be uh Caroline Levitt.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Yeah, no lips yet filler. Still no lips, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Pretty?

Speaker 3 (51:42):
You know, some tiny lips to fill them with filler
and then they still look really tiny, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Oh my god. I saw a clip on some comedy show.
I don't know the name of the show, but the
comedian that they were showing these pictures to is Amber Ruffin.
If you know her, she's very funny.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Oh yeah, it's Oh that's the show hosted by Roy
Wood's junior on CNN. Yeah, and now We've got News
for you or something like that.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah. And they're doing the mar Lago phace where they're
doing the before and after of these mega women and
they're bad, man, holy guaca freaking moldy. And they left
Lumer out by the way. Oh yeah, yeah, her before
was pretty bad. Yeah, the other ones were kind of
cute before and they wrecked it. Lumor went from like

(52:22):
bad to bad to worse.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah, Laura Looms looked like a ghoul no matter what
she does.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah, a haunted white pasty.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
So that's daddy.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Oh daddy, you said getting upset?

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Would you just, in this spirit of fun, like to
watch the head of NATO daddy.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I mean, I've seen it, but please.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Just play it, and then we'll play Trump's response for fun.

Speaker 8 (52:52):
They're not going to be fighting each other.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
They've had it.

Speaker 8 (52:55):
They've had a big fight, like two kids in a
school yard. You know, they fight like hell. You can't
let him fight for about two three minutes. Then it's
easier to stop him.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
And then daddy has sometimes strong language.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
Strong everyone, you have to use a certain word.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Now, he claims he didn't actually call him daddy.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Really, I did not hear it.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
He claims he was using daddy as an expression as in,
and then the father has to you know, maybe he
was a language barrier thing. Sure as hell looked like
he called him daddy though. And then of course he
was asked in a press conference how he felt about it,
and uh, creeped me the fuck out, that's what he did.

Speaker 9 (53:33):
Here we go, Mark Ritter, the NATO chief, who is
your friend? He called you daddy earlier? Do you regard
your NATO allies as kind of children? No?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
He likes me. I think he likes me. If he doesn't,
I'll let you know. I'll come back and I'll hit
him hard. Okay, he did. He did it very affectionate.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
Daddy. Here, my daddy.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Daddy. You met Daddy. He loves it, man, he loves it.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
He loves it so much actually that the Trump Trump
Daddy shirts with his mugshot on it are now for
sale on his what is it? The Trump war Room
on True social is selling daddy merch with Trump's face.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
All I have to say is be careful calling Trump daddy.
That might just be what turns him on so much
about Ivanka.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
He for sure makes his daughter call him daddy. Still
no dad, Oh, I've heard her. She does, see Dad,
love Daddy. I love you so much, Daddy. That's so gross.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Oh man, Okay, Well what do we got here?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Well?

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Do you want to talk about Mom Donnie winning before
we talk about our story of the week.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I am so stoked. I think you.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
I don't know how what your feelings were on z
are on Mom Donnie, but I think yeah, not only
historical but absolutely amazing that the Democratic Socialists could actually
win a Democratic primary, especially in the race for New York,
a place that has a shitload of rich people and
a specifically rich liberals. And the main reason I bring

(55:19):
that up is because I have been seeing the discourse
online from liberals in New York, specifically who are using
the the millionaire flight myth, which is right wing propaganda.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Yeah, I've been seeing Cuomo supporters use that same myth
to try to get people to not vote for Mom Donnie,
and I'm thankful it didn't work.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
They're actually billionaires will leave New York City about the
same time that the liberals leave America because Trump was
re elected.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, which what did like five people do that? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Like the Rose O'Donnell that was about it?

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yeah, literally, this is actually I found an article about that,
because that's what the biggest myths because I've always felt
I lean more democratic socialists, and that's the thing you
hear all the time you at tax the rich people
too much, like they got a fucking gun to your head.
They're gonna move away, They're gonna leave America or are
they gonna leave New York or LA? And the actually,
the the Stanford University Press, the Historic called the myth

(56:26):
of millionaire tax flight, And let me read a section
from that. It says, in the myth Millionaire tax Flight, Young,
the person who was doing the study and compiling on
the data examines a trove of data on millionaires and billionaires,
confidential tax returns, four BLIST, and census records, and distills
down surprising insights. While the economic elites have the resources

(56:49):
and capacity to flee high tax places, their actual migration
is surprisingly limited. For the rich, ongoing economic potential is
tied to the place where they became successful, often where
they are powerful insiders, and its success ultimately diminishes both
the incentive and desire to migrate. Meaning, Uh, they got
rich because they live in New York. They would not

(57:11):
have gotten rich if they lived in fucking Ohio. Yeah,
Like the location is the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Absolutely, There's no billionaire living in New York City that
would be just as happy in Kansas.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
No, that's where they build their compounds for when the
world is ending, not for not to live year round,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah, I don't buy it for a second. It's been
quite the attack on Uh. Look, I've said it many
times on the show before I'll say it again. I
don't like the term democratic socialist because socialist is a
buzzword that the right wing uses against us, and that'd
be okay if you actually were socialists, because socialists has

(57:52):
a definition that democratic socialist does not live up to.
Right socialist means to take over the means of production.
No democratic socialist is calling for that. So basically, all
they're doing by using the term democratic socialist is creating
a boogeyman for the right to attack to scare their base.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
And you know, right, well, my argument against that only
is because I know Bernie uses that term even though
it identifies now or he runs for the Democratic Party
when he ran just like Zorn did. It's just I
think it's more of an indicator for liberals that you
are further left than them and you believe in more
social programs and are less of a capitalist, because I

(58:33):
do feel like liberals and capitalism are still intertwined pretty heavily,
and not just moderate liberals, even pretty far left liberals. Well,
I feel like democratic socialists have more of a critique,
are willing to critique capitalism more like progressives are as well.
So maybe progressive is the better term to use, but
I will say, no matter what.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
They called Joe Biden a communist and a socialist.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Yeah, I know everyone communists anyway, And Joe Biden's the
most moderate fucking Democrat maybe to ever live. He's the
best bipartisan king on the planet. He's like, we all
got to work together.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
And they abuse the term on the right as well,
but at least they understand it some of the time.
But calling yourself a democratic socialist, I don't know. I
like to say that. And I've had this conversation many
times where you say, to a conservative, you say, why
is it that democratic socialist countries like Norway, Finland, the
Nordic model, so to speak, they have higher standards of living,

(59:33):
they have more vacation time, they have longer life spans,
they have higher happiness indexes, they have more vacation time.
And they always say, well, that's not actually socialism, that's
just capitalism with more safety nets. They're not actually socialists.
And then you go, okay, we want capitalism in America
with more safety nets, and they go, that's socialism every time,

(59:55):
without fail.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
And I'm fine with the term personally democratics social just
because I do think I understand where where socialists are
coming from, especially but Norway and the Nordic model and
stuff like that, they still have to take advantage of
third world country labor. I mean, they still do a
lot of the fucked up things that we have to

(01:00:17):
do in America just for prices to be low and
stuff like that. So for them to they're not really
that close to socialism.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Well no, no, no, you're now you're talking about not the
economic model as much as the justice model that that
democratic socialists tend to be a part of as well. Look,
and also in a lot of those Nordic countries they
have socialized, i mean nationalized oil fields and natural resources,
which I'm all for. Never made any sense to me

(01:00:46):
that the earth took two hundred and fifty million years
making all that oil. It's miles below the surface, and
Dave gets he owns it because he bought the dirt.
Dave owns it took the earth two hundred fifty that
belongs to the people of the United States of America.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Fine, keep
your dirty profits that you made in the last hundred

(01:01:06):
and so many years. I say we nationalize the oil
fields from here on out. We pay the oil companies
to pump it. They've got the infrastructure all ready to go,
and we use the profits to pay for the Green
New Deal.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah, I mean, no, I'm I'm I'm a big proponent
of nationalization too. And I think the biggest critique, like
they've been pairing zill On to they were asking him
on CNN questions about if he supported the USSR, and
of course there was a whole slew.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Of racist to ask questions that they were asking him too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Of course, and then he was on Colbert, and out
of character for Colbert, he asked the guy running for
mayor of New York if Israel has the right to exist.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
I couldn't fucking believe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
But I think that Amanda, that he may have actually
asked for that question so that he could clarify his position.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
I mean, he's been asked that a lot. And buy
liberal news networks too, which was really really you can
really see how the democratic establishment is so influenced by
the corporate dollar to be asking these weird questions and
really trying to dismantle him at every chance they got.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, I did an episode with a comedian by the
name of Sean Fawaz. Do you know him by chance? O?

Speaker 9 (01:02:23):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
He had done a tour of the Middle East, Saudi Arabia,
cut her a bunch of places, and he came back
and he was kind enough to come on the show
and talk to us about what it's like doing comedy
in the Middle East. And we did get onto the
topic of Israel Palestine, and he made such a good point.
He said, you know, they always ask somebody who's pro Palestine,

(01:02:46):
does Israel have the right to exist? He goes, nobody
ever asks right wingers does Palestine have the right to exist?
Nobody ever asks that question.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Does Their answer is no?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
By the way, it's that's why they I don't know
why they don't ask that question too. I feel like
that's a valid argument or avowed critique of that. But
you're right, they never asked that question. Absolutely, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
And of course they threw there's people calling him a
g hottest, all kinds of wild shit on there, just
for happening to be a Muslim dude. Yeah, someone who
grew up Muslim.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. I mean, it wasn't
planning on talking about this, but you may or may
not know that Eric Adams has now jumped back into.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
The race as an independent, right as an.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Independent, and it looks like Cuomo might as well, to
which I say, that sounds to me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Eric Adams, in specific, we know he's Trump's bitch. Now
he works for Trump because Trump's dangling an indictment over
his head because unlike everybody else, he didn't get a pardon.
He got a suspension of the investigation, which means I
can restart the investigation at any time. Adams jumping back
into the race is because they think he can draw

(01:03:59):
away from Zorn's vote and it would hurt the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Adams is doing it to help the Republican Absolutely. I
don't see a world where anyone on the left at
all at this point would vote for Eric Adams. I
don't think anyone likes anything that he's done. He's a disgrace,
he's a criminal. I mean, I can't. I feel like
that strategy is idiotic and won't work, But you're right,

(01:04:27):
I think that's one hundred percent of what they're doing right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
He doesn't think he's gonna win either, but his bosses
told him to run, and he's gonna run and they're
gonna see if they can siphon some votes that way.
It's you know, it's not gonna hurt the Republican that
he jumped in the race, but it might might hurt
the Democrat Clobo. Who knows why he would jump back in.
Maybe he thinks because he is so Republican light and

(01:04:52):
it is New York City, that he pulls a little
from the right, a little from the left and he
can get the plurality.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I don't know. Maybe I know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Before this we never talked about Cuomo, but I do
always anytime I think about his sexual harassment allegations, I
remember his excuse being that he was Italian, and I
think about you every time I think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
He's like, I'm a Italian, I touched people. I'm like, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Nobody informed me of this, right, we have even this proclivity.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Yeah, you'd just be on here touching people, were Gilio,
I didn't think.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
So, uh, not my style. But I'm only half Italian,
so maybe I didn't get that gene, the touchy gene.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
One hundred percent Italian.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
So there was a clip that I wanted to play
of a Republican woman who had an ectopic pregnancy, that
hat she needed the D and C. And for full disclosure,
my wife and I had an ectopic pregnancy. We had
a wanted pregnancy that we had to terminate and it

(01:06:01):
was incredibly difficult time for both of us. And I
will say that when we went to the gynecologist and
he said we needed I thought he said a D
n C. And I was like, the name for abortion
is the same as for the Democratic Party. Who the
hell named this procedure, Sean Hannity, But no, it is

(01:06:23):
a D and C.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Oh and Okay, you've got to really pronounce that as.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
And she blamed the troubles she had getting an abortion
on the liberals.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
Oh, topic pregnancy is unviable. In my case, I was
five weeks pregnant. There was no harpyat and no topic.
Pregnancy is viable. And that's so important because the mother
needs care immediately. But unfortunately women's healthcare has been subject
to the worst politic fear mongering that you can experience,

(01:07:00):
and so they had actually been receiving these healthcare providers
had been receiving pro abortion lobby ads to the tune
of millions of dollars being spent on these ads that
were threatening and scaring doctors away from helping women, saying
that they could lose their license, they could go to jail.

(01:07:20):
In fact, in the room, I had nurses and doctors
showing me these advertisements saying that they felt uncomfortable because
they didn't want to go to jail. They wanted to
help me, but they couldn't. They felt like they couldn't
do anything. So I literally was laying on the table
reading them the law, and it dawned on me as
I was sitting there with my husband, this is what
women are experiencing because of the fear mongering around women's healthcare,

(01:07:44):
and it has to stop. The left absolutely played a
role in making sure that doctors and women were scared
to seek out the help that they needed. And so
I think that this is a wake up call. My
story should really bring forward the national conversation that's long
overdue about the lack of maternal health care. And really,

(01:08:05):
I think it's important that we highlight that doctors aren't
to blame, women aren't to blame. We need to get
the politics out of women's health care.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Unbelievable, man, I want to be sympathetic to somebody that
went through something as difficult as an ectopic pregnancy, but
I cannot in her case. Fuck her to fucking hell.
I've never been more angry at some fucking stranger I
see on the news in my life. I'm angrier at
her that I am at Bill Maher on any given
fucking Friday night. Fuck her to hell. She just described

(01:08:37):
what women are going through because of Republicans. Like fucking her.
There's no way that doctors were afraid to give an
abortion because of the Democrats. They run pro abortion ads.
They were showing me the ads. Why would a doctor
be afraid to give an abortion because of a pro
abortion fucking ad?

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Yeah, I mean took the words out of my mouth.
I This also happens with right wingers a lot, where
something happens to them and all of a sudden they
gain empathy for probably the first time in their entire life.
You saw it a lot. Yes, I've seen it in
the past with U Republican senators who are anti gay rights,

(01:09:16):
and then all of a sudden, their son or their
daughter comes out as gay and they're like, well, like
I ask anybody could be gay, And You're like, wow,
oh my god, you fucking woke up. But her saying
like that, this is what women are going through and
you just fucking realize that, man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
But saying that the problem was the Democrats. The reason
that the doctors didn't want to give her an abortion
was because of the Democrats and the liberals, and look
what they've done to women. Fuck her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah, she did this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Her party fucking did this. And unlike the politicians who
had a gay son or daughter and went, well, I
guess I'm for gay, they didn't turn her ound and
say damn these liberals for demonizing gay people. They didn't
have the fucking temerity and the fucking balls to be
that brazenly fucking duplicitous and fucking I should stop. I

(01:10:07):
feel words on the tip of my tongue that I
don't wish to say.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm worried about
your blood pressure and you have I know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
I uh.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
You sent me that clip so I could edit it
out so we could fucking play it. And I had
a really hard time getting through it without screaming because
it's it's so unbelievably hypocritical, and it's also it's almost
it's fucking evil. As shit on her part because she's
gotta know it's her fault or her party's fault, and

(01:10:40):
yet to use something horrible that happened to you like
a sociopath, Like you just lost a fucking baby in
your mind and you're gonna flip it around and use
it as a political uh you know, chess piece.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, but also just it's just she knows, she knows
she's lying, she knows she's to blame. And also, fuck
that Fox News host. You couldn't see who it was
in the clip, but you're a fucking journalist. You didn't
have anything to say to that that didn't strike you
as a little strange that she's blaming the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Yeah, no pushback either. At the end of the clip,
she basically goes, Wow, you are so brave, Like give
it the old pat on the back. Liberals are the
problem when it comes to abortion. You're right, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Somebody should pass a law making it legal for women
to have these abortions.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
So, yeah, that's the warning that every single woman was
giving you. Even some less crazy women on the right
were like, Hey, I have went through an next topic pregnancy,
and it almost killed me. It's important that we leave
little at least, you know, leave stuff in the in
the legislation. But these fucking die hard anti abortion people

(01:11:57):
were like, no, I don't even want.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Ivy have to be a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
If you giz on the floor, you're going to hell
and you should be arrested, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
That's her miss sacred.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
To the point where they're like, women has a period,
she should go to jail because eggs are dying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
And you're like, well, I mean there's been talk of
like period journaling or like registering your periods and things
like just who knows if that's hyperbolic, but in the
in Trump's America, and with a woman like that capable
of being that that big of a liar, who knows
what they're capable of, Oh, that takes the cake in
my opinion. And maybe it's because I went through an

(01:12:34):
ectopic pregnancy and I know how difficult it was, and
I was in California, and even then it was as
Roe v. Wade was about to be overturned, and people
were getting nervous and getting weird about it, and there
was a weird vibe in the office, you know, showing
up and I found myself in an argument with a
nurse saying, this is a wanted pregnancy that we're terminating.

(01:12:55):
How about a little compassion towards my wife because they
were being a little bit you know, whatever, did I
lose you?

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
He's back got hers talking about abortion positively, and he uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Chet out my power I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
So was it a power outage?

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Yeah, it was just a quick power outage. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
The only thing that really it had turned off everything
for I was barely a brown out too. It lasted
for a second. I barely even noticed. The lights flickered
a minute and my computer just shut the fuck off.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Huh. Interesting, Yeah, I saw. The last thing I saw
was the lights go out in your studio.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
I was so in the conversation I didn't even know
it went dark for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
It's probably best that I got the opportunity to cal
him down.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Yeah. No, I fucking love what you were saying. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
I'm glad you're fucking uh. I'm glad you speaking your
goddamn mind. Man, I do think we need more of
that energy because this is fucked man like, this fucking
horrible shit that they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Speaking of God and the godless and the god fearing
Pete Hegsath announced his new name for US Navy ship,
Navy ship that honored gay rights icon Harvey Milk.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Quote.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
People want to be proud of the ship they are
sailing in, says Pete Hegsath.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Who are these people that weren't proud of a civil
rights icon?

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Yeah, the the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Gayest branch of the military. Not an argument, a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Get your homophobic ass out, Pete. Nobody gives a fuck
what you think. I can assure you no one had
a problem with it. But you so gross, so gross.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Speaking of Harvey Milk, by the way, was a Navy veteran, yeah,
which is why you named the ship after him. And
he was an icon, one of the first definitely getting
me people in office, in any public office period.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
And he was assassinated for it, yeah, by a guy
named Dan White was the guy's name. In fun fact,
Tucker Carlson when he was in college, in his fancy,
fancy college, was actually part of something called the Dan
White Society.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Get out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Just a little group of pieces of shit. Yeah, that's
a fun fact for the people, A little group of
big pieces of shiite, enormous even unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Just gross, just gross, just for what gross?

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
What do you change the name to? Do you have
that in front of you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Uh, Oscar V. Peterson. I looked up Oscar V. Peterson.
I read his story. It's not relevant. He's certainly worthy of,
uh of a ship being named after him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Right, but it's it's so disrespectful to just name.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
The next ship after Oscar V. Peterson. Yes, but then again,
the renaming army base is Robert Lee.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
I was amazedly didn't name it after the guy that
shot Harvey Milk for Christ sec.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Uss, Dan White.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
It's coming trus, it's coming out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I don't think that's hyperbole at all. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
This is almost a nothing burger because no surprise here.
But for a minute there there was a buzz on
the internet that Big Balls was out at at Doge,
like the nineteen year old kid who a was fired
from a previous job for sharing classified information or whatever

(01:16:41):
it was company secrets with competitors hired by Elon Musk
working at Doge had the nickname Big Balls. In addition
to all the controversies around these nineteen year olds. No,
he might be out at Doge, but it turns out
he was given another job and the Social Security Administration.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Nineteen year old kid is he heading it? What is
he doing there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
No, he's not heading it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Or is and he's.

Speaker 9 (01:17:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
It doesn't say anything about heading it. Although I'm sure
you know that the kid, literal kid who's into head
of counter terrorism is like twenty two years old or
something with no experience whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Interesting, I mean, he does. This kid comes from a
lot of money. This kid must have connection. And his
dad is the CEO of a thing called Lesser Evil,
which is a snack company that sounds like a front,
you know. So it really is just rich kids playing

(01:17:45):
with the government, every single one of just like Elon Musk,
just a bunch of rich children.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Yeah, but you'll remember Donald Trump once said he was
going to get the best people, unqualified nineteen year olds.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Yeah, well, who's the twenty year old Homeland security I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Don't have that story pulled up in front of me
if we could look that up. But look, the fact
of the matter is possibly because of just youth. Also
there's the full frontal cortex issue, but young men are
easier to manipulate. And if you're going to have a cult,
if you're going to have I mean again the Hitler references.

(01:18:22):
But the Nazis knew this, the SS, the Essay, the Gestapo,
the most ardent died in the world. Nazis, they definitely
that's why they started with Hitler youth, because it's easier
to manipulate these people, particularly when you have nofarious ideas.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Oh we're seeing the manosphere and stuff turn these young
gen Z kids high school, both high schoolers and in
their mid mid twenties into incredibly far right pieces of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Honestly by really playing mainly their insecurities. There's a big
problem now with the fitness to bodybuilding to alt right
pipeline because it's like it's even got people who are
like quote unquote science based lifting experts, you know, and
for some reason gen Z thinks because they have abs
they're smart. I don't know how the fuck they're making

(01:19:17):
that connection. I feel like we never taught them what
a meatthead was, you know what I mean, Like that
these people are all muscles, their head is filled with meat.
They are idiots, and yet these people are giving political
advice to young people and they're eating it up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Yep. I've seen it I think there's also the proud
boy to ice agent pipeline because those ice agents when
you look at them, they're lack of professionalism. They seem
like they have no training whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
No, and I think there's a big possibility that they
are secretly using was it black rock or black water? Yeah,
now it's called something else. I think it's a firm
possibility they're hiding their faces because these are mercenary contractors.
They behave like mercenaries. They've used the same tactics, they
have the same.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Uniforms as mercenaries.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Yep, just with a little velcrow sticker that says police
or ice over the top of them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
A lot of them don't even see ice. They see police.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Yeah, and there isn't even accurate. But the way they behave, Yeah,
I've seen so many videos everyone has.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
You can look them up, folks. They're mostly visual, so
they wouldn't work in this medium. But a guy was
following a car full of ice agents and they jumped
out and were banging on his windows and rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Out of the window.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Get out of the car, get.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
It's like why, and he wouldn't do it, and finally
they left. He's like you have no authority here, Like
you can't jump out of your car and order me
out of my car because I was driving behind you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Yeah, absolutely not. But see that, I guess that's the question.
Is that a product of giving unlimited power to people
who would want to be an ice agent to begin with?
Or are these soulless mercenaries who I say.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
They got proud boy vibes in addition, But I guess
that would be a bridge too far.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Yeah, I mean, but.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
I will say that most browdboys probably don't have a
criminal record anymore, which means they could be a federal
agent since they were pardoned.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Absolutely, that's a very good point. And by the way,
the kid's name is Thomas Fugate And how old is he?
Twenty two years old?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
And his experiences he's been running counter terrorism agencies for
the last thirty five forty years.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
That is incorrect.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Oh, I don't know or could see.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
What his qualification he's gotten.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
No, I mean I've read about him in zero experience
heading counter terrorism, which, by the way, now that I
think of it, I just add something of a light
bulb moment right here on the podcast. Back when you
could actually count on the federal government to give you
good assessments. They said that the most the most realistic

(01:21:57):
threat of terrorism in America is coming from far right extremists,
not from his Islamists or anything like that. So if
you don't want to stop terrorism, you assign a twenty
two year old kid with no experience.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Well, that threat has never actually dipped. Fun fact, they're
even in the nine to eleven, two thousand and one,
early two thousands era, the that threat of domestic terrorism
never actually statistically outweighed the acts of the far right,
skinhead clan, neo Nazi terrorism attacks and stuff like that.

(01:22:35):
They just weren't many. Yeah exactly. He was, yeah, a
white supremacist, and he did it as retribution for Waco, Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
That's right. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
After having read the Turner Diary Diary, which is which
like some far right fantasy novel about taking on the
federal government, little did they know we could actually just
take over the federal government. They never even thought that
was a freaking option.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Yeah, they never heard of you can't beat him, join them. Uh,
that's exactly what they've done.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Oh my god, that is such a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
Yeah exactly. Oh, they don't think a.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Lot skinheads looking at the US government. Well, can't beat them,
join them. That's exactly what happened. So I'd like to
end the episode, as always with my crypto story of
the week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Whoo.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
It's actually a couple of stories as always, but this
one was so telling and it's a clip. But somebody
asked Trump if he was going to divest from his
crypto you know, his family's crypto business while president of
the United States of America, and he answered concisely by

(01:23:51):
not answering at all, started rambling about China. That wasn't
the question.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
By the way, this is a minute and forty five
seconds long, and at no point, well you'll see, here
we go, Thank you, mister President.

Speaker 7 (01:24:04):
On a related subject, many Democrats have said that they
are not going to support crypto bills in Congress only
because of you and your family's personal crypto ventures. And
these folks are in some cases needed to pass. Are
you open to the idea of pulling away from your
personal crypto ventures just for the next few years if
that helps get these crypto bills passed in the next

(01:24:25):
few months.

Speaker 8 (01:24:25):
Well, it's a very funny thing crypto. So I became
a fan of crypto, and to me, it's an industry.
I viewed it as an industry, and I'm president, and
if we didn't have it, China would or somebody else would,
but most likely China. China would love to and we've
dominated that industry. It's a big industry, by the way.
In fact, when the stock market went down recently, crypto
and bitcoin and all of that went down much less

(01:24:46):
than anybody else as a group. And we've created a
very powerful industry and that's much more important than anything
that we invest in. We invest in it, but really
that was an industry that wasn't doing particularly well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
I got involved with it a couple.

Speaker 8 (01:25:00):
Of years ago, and before this whole, before the second term.
I got involved before I decided to run. I only
decided to run because I saw what was happening and
Biden was incompetent and the administration was crooked and incompetent,
and I was in bitcoin then, not knowing if I
was going to do it a third time. So it's

(01:25:22):
become amazing. I mean, it's the jobs that are producers,
and I notice more and more you're paying bitcoin. I mean,
people are saying it takes a lot of pressure off
the dollar, and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
A great thing for our pressure on the dollar.

Speaker 8 (01:25:35):
I don't care about investing. You know, I have my
I have kids, and they invest in different things. They
do believe in it. But I'm president and what I
did do there is build an industry that's very important.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
And you know, if we didn't have a China would.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Okay, for one, why did the stock market crash When
the stock market went down, crypto didn't go down nearly
as much. Yeah, because the stock market's trading real things
and imaginary assets are unaffected by the real world.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yeah, the non fungibleness of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
But he did not answer the goddamn question.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
No, not at all, of course he Well, listen, man,
he was doing the weave. He was doing the weave. Also,
I cannot get over the way he's his industry. He
pronounces it indust tree. He throws a second tea in
there and throws a tree in at the end, Indu tree.

(01:26:28):
Isn't he an industrialist himself? It's jeek?

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
And the United Arab Emirates has invested one hundred million
in Trump's crypto token, yet another foreign country giving the
president of the United States hundreds of millions of dollars.
Whatever could they want in return? They just see a

(01:26:57):
good investment in an indust How did he say indust
tree in an industry? He thinks it's Hey, money doesn't
grow on trees, but maybe crypto does. He grows on
the industree.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Industry. Can't get over the way he says it to
driving me fucking crazy. How does he not know that word?

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
There you have it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Yeah, definitely paying him off, you know, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
It's the most corrupt thing about him in a just
a c of corrupt things. Yeah, the fact that anyone
can deposit as much money as they want, untraceable money,
directly into the president of the United States bank account.
And we've seen him react and do favors for people
that have done this, including pardoning and dropping charges and

(01:27:49):
investigations go away, and all you gotta do. Drop a
couple hundred million dollars into Donald Trump's bank account.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Yep Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
What will next? What will next bring? What will next week?
Week bring?

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
I have absolutely no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
I usually you know, I've made We've made a lot
of predictions, some of them ambitious, some of them hopeful.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
I got no idea what's going on gonna happen? Next week.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
I don't even feel like there's any hints of what's
going to happen next week. Maybe if the Supreme Court decision,
you know that's going to give him God to your
powers for executive orders. I think we're going to get
some hot, sloppy executive orders. You know that's probably gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
God knows what. There's no way the war in the
Middle East isn't gonna pop off even more. Uh, we'll see.
I am Ransby and very mean to him, very very
mean to him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
The itola for a man of faith. You're not supposed
to lie, Bob, it's watching, don't do it. Where can
people find you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
Travis Clyburn, You find me always at Cleiburne Comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Come check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
I've been posting clips from this lovely podcast on there
so you can see our lovely faces.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
And oh you take a look.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
Here here's me without glasses on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
We've got a handsome devil right there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Here's me with glasses on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Yeah, still handsome.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
I look better without glasses, but only from my perspective
because it goes very blurry.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
I'm like, there you go, I look young again.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
You can't make out the fine lines or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
All Right, till next week my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Stay safe, everybody,

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