July 5, 2025 • 63 mins
Happy Birthday America, we hope it's not your last. Floods in Texas that NOAA failed to forecast because of DOGE cuts. Spoiler alert: climate change is real. MTG is convinced weather machines are real. Alligator Alcatraz, Atheism and Elon's new political party. It's all part of Trump's terrible 24th week. More at dogmadebate.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It's the end of the week. It's not the normal day.
We put this out because yesterday it was Independence Day. Yeah,
(00:41):
we're doing a Saturday weekly roundup. I thought maybe we'd
start with I'm gonna throw this at you at Travis,
you had no time to think about it. Okay, say
something nice about America for her birthday.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh okay, she's.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's not sure, that's so nice.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Lots of us, a whole lot of us. You know, no,
big as good, you know, big as positive.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Wow, you're you're into what is BBC's big beautiful countries.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Love a BBC. Don't don't quote that ship, don't quote
that out of context. Guy, what about you? You got any
you got any good, anything positive to say for her birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I will say that I've said it before. I'll say it.
I love you America. You are the country of my
birth and my home. I'm not saying that I don't.
I'm so blinded that I don't think that other countries
are great and aren't wonderful places to grow up. But
you are the country I grew up in, and until recently,
the best thing about you was that if you didn't
(01:57):
like it, you could change it. I used to always
say that there's something about America you don't like, change it.
We have that ability. I don't know that that's true anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If I'm being honest, it's fair.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I mean, eventually we will be led. You don't give
it thirty years, It'll be Trump's head and a glass
jar connected to Grock.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Sorry, no, no, they don't like Crock anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Oh, that's right, that's right. You were just I.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Had to inform you of something you didn't know about,
which kind of blew my mind that you had never
heard of mega super influencer cat Turd.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, I don't know, man, I'm pretty chronically online, and I.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Have no idea how I missed the existence of cat turd.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I thought you were saying some name that I was too,
that I was mishearing, like a third or something like
it was Turkish or something.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I know you made me say it like five times caws.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Like you're telling me it's cat turd, and yeah it is.
I can't believe I've never heard that before.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yes, So I guess we'll start with this because this,
I mean, this is it. This is as Trump said
about what did he say, uh, two romans? Uh when
he was speaking at Liberty University? Is that it's the
whole ball of axe, isn't it? Two romans? Right there? Hope? Anyway,
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second romans for anyone. I know anyone listening to this
podcast would know. But like, dude, if you're going to
quote the Bible and say this one passage is the
whole ball of axe, get the name right, get the
name right?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Two romans? Some say three.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, many are saying three romans. I don't know who
these two romans were, but they got it right. They
said it exactly right. They knew like tell us you've
never read the Bible. Without telling us you've never read
the Bible.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
He doesn't even know the basic layout of the books
for Christ's sake.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
As we learned last week, neither does Ted Cruz. He's like,
but he's like, I believe what the Bible says, which is,
you know, those who support Israel will have God's love
or whatever. Tucker couss like, where's that in the Bible?
I don't know Genesis, the first books, first page, Buddy first,
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first first paragraph, didn't know that. None of them read it,
hold it up sometimes upside down to win favor with
the base, of course. Back to cat Turn because cat
Turd summed it up. Cat Turn said, if Grok gets
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any more woke, it's going to qualify for a job
on the View. And it's like, there you go. That's it, folks,
What else do you need to know? If an AI
programmed by Elon Musk is too woke for you, your
problem is with facts. You don't like reality, which we
knew because you live in a fever dream cult.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But yeah, there is a great TikTok out there, TikTok
channel called roc Versus Maga. I couldn't recommend it for
people enough, and it's just screenshots with an AI voice
reading like people trying their best to get Groc to
not tell them reality like rock. Isn't it true the
Jews have space lasers, Like you're saying crazy stuff and
(05:30):
Groc is just being almost mean to them with facts.
It's pretty amazing. I recommend it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Wow, Well, we are going to get into our space
laser friend, Marjorie Taylor Green in just a moment, because
the I mean, the story that's breaking right now is
a tragic one, and we talk about tragedy on this
podcast all the time. Yeah, and sometimes it does feel
like self inflicted. I don't know that you could say
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that necessar early with this, but at current I just
checked a reliable website thirty two dead flash flood in Texas. Now,
you could say flash floods happen in Texas, but actually,
statistically speaking, rainstorms bring about twenty percent more rain in
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Texas now than they did fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
So something's changing. We know it is something. Yeah, we
obviously know what it is.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I was seeing something where the rain was coming on
at twelve inches per hour, which is unbelievable. That's crazy.
I know, a flood an hour, that's crazy. I've never
even heard of that, unless we're like talking about the
Amazonian rainforest, something like.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Where Noah's flood. I think that was more flood an hour. Yeah,
had to cover the entire earth, but.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, forty days.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Forty That said, the reason that I say that this
felt like self inflicted is that, well, due to cuts
to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency as well as
others we've discussed this, the government's obligation to the people
of the United States of America to give accurate weather
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reporting has fallen short, considerably short. And without actually pointing
at Trump and saying you did this, Texas officials are
acknowledging Hey, like, nobody told us that it was going
to be like this, and it seems like a predictable thing.
If you're going to have twelve inches an hour, that
seems like the kind of thing that the Doppler radar
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would pick up on.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I mean a well funded one.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
A well funded one. And in fact, we have a
clip I believe of an official in Texas making that argument.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
See original forecast that we received on Wednesday from the
National Weather Sir. This predicted three to six inches of
rain in the Concho Valley and four to eight inches
of rain in the Hill country. You can go back
and look at your own forecast, and the amount of
rain that fell in this specific location was never in
any of those forecasts.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well there it is big bullets, all right, three to
six inches in general.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Right. That's so it was beyond what four times what
they predicted.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And I mean, I have some information here that specifically
talks about what's going on right now with the big
beautiful Bill and the cuts that that are happening right
now with these agencies. The Trump administration has slashed funding
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for climate research programs, canceling a fifteen million dollars bio
diversity grant, dismantling the US Global change research progress, and
weakening carbon monitoring efforts at NAA, the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Agency, which jeopardizes decades of data like the who
(09:12):
I don't know this word, the Keeling curve and I
need to look that up. Do you mind looking that up?
K E E L I N G curve curve?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
See what that?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
In addition, multiple US government climate assessment websites have been
taken offline all together just don't exist anymore. And this
is not just by the way, flooding in Texas I
will point out that as we speak, a historic heat
wave is scorching Europe. Rivers like the Danube, Bryant and
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Vistula are record lows. And there's a heat wave on
the East Coast as well, which is called a heat dome,
which is directly linked to climate change.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Jesus well here. The Keeling curve is a graph of
the annual variation and overall accumulation of carbon dioxide in
the air's atmosphere, based on continuous measurements taken at the
the Tsumawana Loa Observatory on the island of Hawaii from
nineteen fifty eight to present day. And if you're somebody
(10:18):
I'm not saying, lizard people who wants to keep the
old evidence of climate change hush hush, maybe to keep
fueling oil companies or I mean, let's not get our
tenfoil hats on here too much. But it's a curve
that goes from nineteen fifty eight and it just is
a straight shot up. It's an unbelievable linear lineup. So
(10:40):
if you look up the Keeling curve, you'll see that
it's pretty damning. I could see why they people do
not see that, Yeah, or not.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Involving not just NOAA, but a number of other agencies
are experiencing severe shortages of meteorologists, according to internal documents
obtained by.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The New York Times in April.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So these are the very people that let you know
it's time to get to high ground when there's a
flood coming, and you know, again to look this thing
square in the eyes. These were children in summer camps
that may very well have been lost. You know, the
reporting is still ongoing, but these are innocent victim. I mean,
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they're all innocent victims, I suppose. But these people didn't
even vote for Trump, but not that Trump caused the storm.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying the reporting could have been.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Better, yeah, better funded.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It just I mean, it shows you what happens when
you're anti science, too, when you're antie because like that,
that is kind of what this feels like to me
a lot. I mean, not only is it they're trying
to save money to afford all the tax breaks to
rich people, but like that, he is an authoritarian who
wants to attack science. He wants to attack research, and
this is just part of that. And there's these are
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the consequences of being anti science, like if you fire
the scientist and the hell was it four episodes ago,
all the people that died in Kentucky and Tennessee because
they didn't have the money to have a night shift guy,
because we all know storms never come at night, and
there was no one to sound the sirens. There was
no one to warn people, and the tornado just took
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out you know, two states across.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, no one to help.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I mean, when you are completely cold to human suffering,
these these cuts are easy. It's like with Trump, I
said it before that with COVID, he gave away the
game when they say he said, they said the testing
shows that COVID rates are going up. He's like, then
stop testing. Yeah, And this is the same. It's like
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climate change is really dangerous, then stop researching it, stop
looking at it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, stop adding data to things like this curve. You
just don't put any data points on it, then it
won't say that it's true.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's exactly where we are, so speaking of Well, actually
Donald Trump did address this and we have a clip
of that. So again, highly empathetic, clearly concerned with the situation.
This is him after spending the day at the White
House yesterday paling around, didn't mention the floods or the
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deaths in Texas. I guess he didn't want to spoil
the party by being presidential.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Being real buzzkill.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
But he finally mentioned it today and this is what
he had to say.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Shocking. They don't know the answer yet is to how
many people, but it looks like.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So young people who have died.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, we'll take care of them.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Working with the governor. We're working with the govern It's
a terrible thing. Yeah yeah, it don't work with the governor.
Work with the scientists.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean climate change is literally the perfect example of it.
It's too late for this, we know this. But there's
the old saying that an ounce of prevention is worth
a ton of cure. Yeah, well we failed with the
ounce of prevention.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Not to mention how many times in this podcast so
far we talked about the fact that, I mean, what
FEMA is going to be gone in a few months.
The head of it didn't know hurricane season was a thing.
I mean, christ there, I think by the way, next yeah,
a Monday, I'm flying to Florida and I'm only gonna
be there for four days. Visit my wife's family, and
hopefully it's not a hurricane, because if there is, we
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won't know about it. That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean there might well be who knows a hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, we've been like looking into it to see if
anything's coming, and.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I wouldn't know. I don't don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Your best bet is like, try and find a short
wave radio and reach out to some like Jamaican fishermen
or Cuban fish man like you guys seeing anything on
your end coming our way? Yes, no other way of
knowing what the weather is.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
That one homeless dude in Miami that lives on this
boat and refused to leave during that one hurricane and
he's like, I'm just riding it out, baby.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We'll have to hang out with that guy. Hopefully will
be okay.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Uh. I actually came across the clip of a woman
whose home was completely flooded just to even though it's
just audio, you can hear her sloshing around in her home.
So why don't we play that just so people understand
the exact severity of this flash flood.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Okay, my house is flooding. Anybody out there. I have
my dad on hospice and I need to get him
out of here, So somebody please. We've called by one one.
It's battled here in front of the house.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's like a river.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I mean, it's like a lake.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
She's walking through her bedroom, her kids bedroom. That's what
you hear, this large cars everything.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
She's looking at the front door right now and it
just looks like she's in the middle of an ocean.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But there's trees that it's wild.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
So anybody please, if you have a boat or something,
I need help.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I need to get my dad out of here.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It's starting to smell like sewer in here.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And the water is brown. Yeah. Woof.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Again, we're not so stupid that we don't realize these
things happened one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago,
and that they used to say, although no one weather
event can directly be linked to climate change, I think
that's bullshit nowadays too. I think weather events can be
linked to climate change, particularly extreme weather events.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Every meteorologist and weather scientists is in unanimous agreement on
that being a fact. They're like, I've seen a escale
and how often these storms hit their severity like it's
not even it's not even a debate like this is
climate caused weather events?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And also like I hate that fucking excuse so much.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
The conservatives love to use where they say things like
like well, these things have always happened. It's like, well,
they know why we should have grow as a society
to prevent them from happening.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Are we are we beyond that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But that's also so disingenuous when they say that because
weather has always changed, we had ice ages and what
I Yeah, and look at how long it took for
the weather to change thousands and thousands of years for
us to go through cycles. This is in under one
hundred years, and it's directly linked to the Industrial revolution
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and the putting of CO two into the air. It's
the most simple thing to prove in the world. All
you have to do is take a container, put a
thermometer in it, give it a power source like a light,
shine it into it, and then add CO two into
the container and watch the temperature go up. That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Climate change is real unless you're saying that's not CO
two coming out of your freaking truck and not CO
two coming out of the factories. Maybe the conspiracy theory
goes so far. CO two is bullshit. Yeah, that's not
CO two coming out of my truck. You ever seen
CO two? I haven't.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Can you touch it?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
No? No?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I run my diesel truck in my garage all the
time with the door close, and I'm fine.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Well, it's funny you should say that because somebody who
I think may well have been running their car in
the garage with the door closed, none other than Marjorie
Taylor Green.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Oh yeah, she tweeted something that for once, I have
to get credit where credit's due.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
She said something sane and reasonable. If I may read
two this, I've never tried it. Marjorie Taylor Green impression before.
I think I'm gonna give it a shot. Right now,
I am introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release,
or dispersion of chemical substances into the atmosphere for the
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express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity.
It will be a felony offense. I have been researching
weather modification and working with the Legislative Council for months
writing this bill. It will be similar to Florida Senate
Bill B fifth or Bill five to six. We must
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end the dangerous and deadly practice of weather modification and
geo engineering. Oh so man made climate changes real, But
not because of CO two and oil companies and trucks
and factories, but because of and A. I bite my
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tongue to say this, But if I'm seriously trying to
put myself in her head because of the Jews, I
mean yeah, I mean it's their space lasers.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I mean yeah, this was I'm calling this tweet long
form Jewish space laser because that's what it was. It
was like, No, I learned all the words like geo engineering,
and I'm a new and research I can't even imagine
how stupid the research this woman does. Oh my, how
dumb it has to be. She just watches the YouTube
videos of flat earthers.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You guys, wow, you know, I mean, my head is spinning.
And by the way, Marjorie, you know, why don't you
just reach out to the Jewish people and ask them, like, look,
we have the serious flood. Could you use the space
lasers to evaporate the waters? It would really help us out.
I mean, space lasers can be used for good and evil.
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We all know that. We all know that.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
If we've got these lasers because I remember, you know,
last hurricane season, one of the elections were going on
honor with the election cycle, people were blaming maga people.
We're blaming Democrats for using this weather machine to attack Florida,
to attack these red states. Right, but now that Trump
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is in power, all of a sudden, the Democrats, I mean,
they couldn't possibly still have access to these.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Before Trump could get to the White House, they hid
the weather machine. Yeah, They're like, okay, well, if Trump's
coming in, we can't let him have the weather machine
or the space lasers. So they hit it all in
a secret liberal bunker.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
A liberal bunker.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's an underground bunker with a Pride flag on itither'
like a liberal bunker.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So I did want to hit you real quick. With
Representative Jared Muskowitz's response to Marjorie Tooaylor Green, he said,
I'm introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release, or
dispersion of stupidity into Congress. Good luck with that one.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I mean that's going to fail.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
That's them voting against their best interest, you know, their
own interest, baby.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And just one more, because why not I came across
and what is with these crazy right wing rednecks. You're you're, you're,
you're from redneck blood. You can tell me. This is
Candace Taylor. She is a Christian Georgian. This is what
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her ex profile says. Christian Georgian Maga Jesus, Guns and
Babies candidate for Congress twenty twenty six GA District one. Babies, Yeah,
and babies. So when I tell you her name is Candace,
put out your redneck redneck cap? How's that spelled?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Ooh ooh ooh? Okay, all right?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
If I'm going like and when this is Georgia, we're
also Marjorie Taylor Green is from yeah, Georgia, Candace, Okay,
gotta be a C. Let's start with a C or
k ok Oh damn it. I knew it was gonna
start with a K. I should have guessed K. I
should have went with my with my white trash gut
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u K I N D I S.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
K A n D I S S Candace. And it's
even better than I thought. Oh my god, I swear
to God and this is just me being so mean.
And you know that we I've said it so many times.
I love the Southern accent. It's my favorite American vernacular.
But I swear to God, they're at the hospital and
they heard the name and they liked it, and I Candace,
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that's a nice name. Okay, how do you spell that?
Ka and dss. It's a made up spelling of somebody
trying to spell the name Candace. I know it. There's
no way this is not just some person trying to
figure out.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, they're doing their best.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
So Candace, Candace, Candace again? Who is Christian? Georgia Maga Jesus.
Guns and babies, Guns and babies, that's her thing, guns
and babies. Guess she's got no problem with giving a
baby a gun. Of course not.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's gonna defend itself against the gay agenda.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Before I read this, I will say that I I
social media out the other day. I think all Americans
should own a gun. Can you imagine three hundred and
fifty million people all sharing one gun? Problem solved?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah? Who gets the gun this week? Yeah? We all
have to vote on it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I know fights will be so different. I'll have you know.
I have put in for the gun. And in four
to five years, you better watch. You better be looking
over your shoulder, boy, because.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You better watch out man, I'm coming for you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Everyone gets it for ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, you better use it wisely.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Anyway. I only say that because, of course, mercilessly attacked
by right wingers. They didn't like that joke. I thought
comedy was back, and then you make a joke about guns,
and as I like to say, Trump's president now. So
since clearly no one is coming for your guns, please
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stop coming for your guns. It's freaking gross. You disgusting.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Ammo sexuals dude, yeah, it is sexual.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I've actually been attempting to I know we're going out
a slight tangent here, but I've been trying to use
more toxic masculinity to fight gun loving people who are
toxic masculine, because I think, if anything, if you want
to be a bro about it, guns are kind of
a pussy ass way to do things, you know what
I mean, Like you can just what any guy, any
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guy can just pull out a gun and shoots you.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think a woman could shoot you, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Oh yeah, shoot you dead, even though you're a big
strong man, graveyard dead.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's why I'm trying to make swords.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Sexual could shoot you with a gun and kill you
and kill how tough are you if a gay guy
could do it, if a could do it.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh a lesbian, no way, exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
No, lesbian just pulls a trick.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Same.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's that's why I'm pro sword, all right. That's the
only way to show you're actually a man. And if
we make swords cool, then they won't have guns anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh. A number of guys that thought swords were cool,
they were the least cool dudes. I know, I'm you're
not getting down on it, guys that are the swords.
I'm just saying that. My personal experience was the guy
that wanted to show you his sword. You were the
first person to be over at his house ever. Yeah,
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got shooting my sword.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So Candice tweeted fake weather, real damage Hurricane Helena. Yeah Helena,
h E L E N E. Which one was that
was that called Helena?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
It's been so long, Helen. I believe you, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hurricane Helena left me powerless for sixteen days and cost
fifty seven thousand dollars in damage. This isn't just quote
climate change end quote. It's cloud seating, geo engineering and manipulation.
If faith, if fake weather crusades, it's fake weather. Crusades
and real tragedy, that's murder. Pray, prepare and question the narrative.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Interesting, Why did she never consider it was God? You know,
if she believes that, you know, how come so every
other storm that happens anywhere else or the fires in California?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
God?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, have they ever stop to consider maybe God's mad
at him?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I don't know, No, because they voted for Trump, and
God loves Trump. He steered a bullet away from the
man's head, so obviously they're in the right. So any
bad weather that happens to them is Jewish space lasers
or liberals with weather machines, and any bad weather that
happens to us is God. What an amazing brain, What
an amazing brain.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I wish I could sort my brain into fun little
piles like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Good things, good things, God? Bad things? Yeah, some other
motherfucker devil?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I know you know Roy, but oh you know. I
debated Roy Ellison on the show not long ago episode
I can't remember the number, but it's called Christian versus Atheist.
And at some point, as Roy was going through all this,
I just stopped and I said.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is it fun.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Is it fun believing all this stuff that you're a
righteous war like you're living in dungeons and dragons land man,
and he started laughing. He was like, it is a realm.
I do believe we're living in a realm. I'm like,
he admits.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
It realms, Baby, that's realms.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Evildoers and dragons and people righteous soldiers. And it's way
better than I'm just a dude on the planet trying
to do my best. You're a righteous soldier fighting dragons.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, and you have like a power above you who's
got your back no matter what. That's got to feel great. Delusional,
but it's kind of feel great.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Okay, Well that's that. Why don't we get onto Speaking
of weather events, and you're going to floor none other
than alcatraz Or. Alligator Alcatraz has been in the news
all week. Really sucked up a lot of oxygen this week.
A lot of people talking Alligator Alcatraz, including a group
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of five Democratic state lawmakers in Florida that were denied entry. Again,
denied entry to this in case anyone's unaware, which would
blow my mind if you were unaware. But it's a
new detention camp built by rondsanct Aimonious in Florida in
the Everglades, where, yeah, the deterrent from escape is not
(30:37):
so much the fences and the guards as much as
it is the alligators and the pythons. And they're calling
it Alligator Alcatraz. Some are calling it Alligator Auschwitz.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I believe I think that's a more apt name personally,
because it's it's literally a camp. It's a bunch of
tents and a bunch of bunk beds in the middle
of swamp country land where they kept trying to sell it,
by the way to people, but it's you can't build
anything on it or it will sink into swamps, so
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they couldn't. They just were like, fuck it, let's just
build a concentration camp there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I did have this thought and it kind of I
was thinking about like these mass deportations and you're seeing
the elderly gardener being basically beaten by ten ice agents, yeah,
on the mass side of the road, and the idea
of locking sending them off to third world prisons without
(31:41):
a trial, or sending them to Alligator Alcatraz. And it
occurred to me that these are all Christians that support Trump.
This is Christian nationalism. It's a crysto fascist movement in
my opinion. And I was like, how can they justify
this cruelty? And then I was like, wait a second,
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They've already endorsed the worst cruelty of them all, the
infinite punishment of hell, for far lesser crimes than coming
into the country and illegally and working a job, just
the crime of not believing in Jesus. And they're they're
okay with you being tortured forever for that. So how
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is this this is this is tame compared to this
thing They've already signed up for, this infinite punishment, this
infinite torture to people who did nothing wrong other than
just didn't believe a story that came with no evidence
to support it.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I mean think about like when a real or something
who's a true believer in Christianity like tells people that
they want them to burn in hell for believing, I
don't know, just being in different religion. It could be
as simple as that, or saying something they don't like, Like,
you really got to think about the weight of that statement.
They want you to roast in fire? Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I do not want you to roast. Oh Travis, you're
so wrong. I want you. I want you in heaven
with me. Travis. It it kills me that you're going
to roast on a spit in hell forever. Oh Travis,
I wish you could be there with me. It sounds
like I just watched Glengary Glenn Ross. It literally sounds
like the sales pitch for a sleazy salesman. Oh Travis,
I wish you could. We are It's gonna be wonderful.
(33:29):
I wish you could be there with this. Travis. Yeah, sure,
weazer my boss. He's trying to get some souls off
the books today. Is there anything I could? What is
it going to take to get you into Jesus today?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
They always try to sell you on it too. I
noticed that too, even because I feel like the initial
steps of meeting someone who's super religious and they especially
when they find out if you're an atheist or agnostic
or anything like that, So they could go through phases
and it usually goes like they pretend they are okay
with that. If they're kind of a chill person, they're like, oh,
that is fine, I accept you, and then over time
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they degrees of them trying to convert, you get stronger
and stronger because like they're having to. I think some
of them are really the nice ones. I have a
trouble because they truly believe that I'm going to burn forever.
But they, you know, they like me, they're friends with me,
and they they feel this obligation to try to save.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Me, and it makes it so fucking annoying. I'm like, don't, please, don't.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Wherever you're going by the party sucks in my opinion,
Like I don't think it's gonna be a good time.
I beg of you not to try to save me.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I beg of you leave me out of it.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I had some Christians knock on the door not so
long ago, and they were like five of them in
their Sunday best a gang. Yeah, and they looked they
look fantastic, They look great, And there's no doubt in
my mind that ostensibly, without digging too deep, these are sweet,
(34:57):
nice people, right. And they were like, we're here or
two to give you the good news of Jesus Christ.
Can we come in and talk to you about Jesus?
And I was like, I've been waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Wait till you hear what my job is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I was like, you want to convert me. You your
mission in life is to turn me Christian. My journey
in life, my mission in life is to convert you
to atheists. Let's go, let's do this, let's do this fight.
And so they came in and they couldn't have been sweeter,
they couldn't have been nicer, and right away, I, you know,
(35:41):
I laid into them a little. I was like, I
think it's just part of the human condition that we all,
all societies, all cultures, we all create gods. I think
there's something inherent in the in the human brain that
makes us assign agency to nature. And they were like what.
I was like, God bless them again, God bless him.
(36:01):
And I was like, I was like, all cultures have
created gods, not just yours. And one of them goes, oh,
like the Greeks they had gods, right. I was like,
good Lord, okay, And they picked up on it pretty quick,
and they said, Michael, Michael, we can tell that you're
(36:21):
really smart, and you're We're not the people to convince you.
But there is a guy at our church who his
specialty is talking to atheists. Would it be right if
next Sunday he came around and talked to you. I
was like, yes, it would, I'll be here all day.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Is he coming tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
And they sent him by. He already came. Now this
was this was some months ago now and he came
in and you are not going to believe is knock
knock down layout punch. That got me and it got
me good. He said to me, Uh, Michael, if if
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you were to be given advice, and the two people
giving your advice, one was a three year old baby
and the other was a seventy five year old man,
who would you take the advice from? I said, I
would take the advice from the seventy five year old man.
He goes, why, that's good answer. I like that answer, like,
(37:28):
oh you do Wow, I want to beat the people
that gave you the other answer. I think i'd go
with the baby. Yeah, baby said, that's looking like a
smart baby. He goes, Okay, I like that answer, Michael.
And he thought he had me. He's like, oh, he's
following for my trap. He's answered these questions exactly the
way I thought he was going to. Why would you
(37:49):
go with the seventy five year old man? And I said, well,
the longer you are around, the more stuff you learn,
and the smarter you get.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
He goes exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Now, get ready, the Bible is over two thousand years old.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Okay, what the Bible is?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
So it knows even more than a seventy five year
old man, No, sir, Wow. See the seventy five year
old man, he's got this thing called a brain. It's
like a supercomputer where he can add new information in
crunch it come up with new data equals new conclusions.
The Bible is paper. Yeah, it doesn't give advice. Somebody
(38:40):
with a brain wrote advice. But the person with a
brain didn't know as much as us because they lived
thousands of years. Like, this is not the argument you
think it is. He really thought I was gonna go,
oh shit, you're right. The Bible is really old. Therefore
it's really wise.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's man.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
If that works on you, if as a kid, this
is like the atheist whisper that they've sent after you.
If I gotta say from my heart, if you hear
that and you convert.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
To Christianity, you're a dumbassy. You are an idiot. That's
not even like remotely big brain, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Like that's not even like some weird philosophical concept. It's
just numbers eight by number. Wof that's rough.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I always say when somebody tells me, well, my friend
used to be an atheist and then he converted to Christianity,
And I'm like, well, then he was an atheist for
bad reasons, and he converted to Christianity for bad reasons.
Chances are nobody who fully understands atheism just converts to
Christianity unless Jesus comes to them personally in their bedroom,
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glowing in light, takes them into his bosom, imparts them
with wisdom beyond their years. I haven't heard about that,
but that would be a good reason. Sure, if that
happens to you, go for it. If some argument just
won you over.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, it's rough, Yeah, because the whole point of usually
atheist are people who have heard a million different arguments
from a million different perspectives and added up all the
data that points to Yeah, this is definitely a bullshit
like that is atheist. It's not hearing one side, it's
trying to hear, in my opinion or for me personally,
(40:25):
hearing every single side going that side sounds fucking stupid.
It doesn't make any sense like that. So like, if
one thing can all of a sudden turn you right
back into a Christian?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, I had a guy this is you know. I've
complained many times about liberals who are atheists that hate atheists,
they find us so annoying. But I had a guy
say to me one time. I was like, do you
believe in God? And he was like, I don't know.
I was like, then you don't believe in God? No,
I just said I don't know. I said, right, if
(40:58):
you don't know, if you believe in something, then you
don't believe in it. Please tell me list for me,
hold on, Please list for me something that you believe
in that you simultaneously also don't believe in. Yeah, Like,
if you don't know if you believe in it, you
don't believe in it. That's what belief is. Yeah, if
(41:20):
you don't know if you believe in it, then you
don't believe in it. It's that simple. And Twitchy said, oh,
that's so fucking stupid. You're so fucking stupid, You're arrogant.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's afraid to let it go.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I feel like, because I do feel like there are
some people out there, especially some people who lean more agnostic,
who are just afraid to say out loud, I don't think.
I don't think any of this is real anymore, Like
to actually have that epiphany moment of like releasing your
kind of the confines of the religion that you've been
raised with, you know, letting it go, accepting that it's
(41:55):
not real. And then that moment is Agnostic people especially
have a lot of trouble. They're still clinging on to it, like, ah,
maybe because I think they're just afraid to just.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Let it go, let the bird fly away, be free,
my brothers.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Look, the fact that matters. You just gave such a
perfect example somebody that says, I don't think this. I
don't know. If I think this is real, then you
don't think it's real. If you think it's real, you
think it's real. If you don't know, if you think
it's real, then you don't think it's real.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
That's just how it goes.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, well, yeah, you just haven't admitted it to yourself.
Because that's another thing too. Religion and lack thereof is
a deeply personal thing, and I think when it comes
to certain agnostic people or people like that.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Like they themselves have yet to admit what they.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Basically know is true, that it's horseship, and so they
that's that struggle, which is again why he calls you
an idiot, gets mad at you. Yeah, it's like it's yeah,
you're basically attacking something that's inside of them, you know
what I mean from their perspective.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
So it's just some sort of weird psychological thing where
the more sense somebody starts making, the more likely you
are to call them an idiot. Like if you're arguing
with somebody and they start making total fucking sense, then
you are going to call them an idiot. Then they're
the dumbest person you've ever met. The more sense they make,
the more you hate them for being so stupid. You're
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an idiot, God, because you're hurting my ability to hold
on to this cognitive dissonance.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, I know it is.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Does it flips that that It's got to be an
amegdala thing, you know what I mean. It's got to
be a lizard brain thing where you all of a
sudden you go into some fight or flight mode.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I know some people, like I've met people that freeze.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
So like you'll be making a point or maybe you're
arguing about something as personal as religion, and then you'll
make a good point and they just stop and you're like, hey,
you're still with me.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Their brains just fucking turn, or they've got to.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Do what we were just saying and go fucking attack
you like you're a stupid motherfucker man.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
You don't know nothing. Yeah, okay, all right, I see
I've touched a nerves.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I mean when it comes to atheists, and everyone listening
knows this because we've all had this debate, but the
arrogant card, Oh that.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Comes out quick.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
You make a couple of good points and they go, oh,
you are so arrogant.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
You're so arrogant.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
How oh oh, let me get Oh you know everything,
don't you? Yeah? I know everything. That's definitely what I
was saying. Yeah, okay, speaking of somebody that does think
they know everything, I just had a question for you,
because Elon Musk is still making noise about a third party.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
In fact, he and Trump got into it again over
the Big Beautiful Bill, which passed, and once again Michael
Rigillio is saying it's over, folks. I don't hold out hope.
I think we blew it. I really think we blew.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
It is a bad one man.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
The only way to stop fascism is you have to
stop it before they take power, because after they take
in power, they see to it that you cannot stop them.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
So well, in talking about Alligator Alcatraz and in talking
about the Big Beautiful Bill, just real quick, I wanted
to read from what this Big Beautiful Bill does. You're
talking about authoritarians taking power. This has now made ICE
the largest federal law enforcement This okay, this is a
quote from a Newsweek article. Let me just read this,
(45:28):
these two paragraphs right here. And passing this bill, Congress
is stripping life saving healthcare from millions of Americans to
pay for an increasingly aggressive, dangerous, and obsessive deportation agenda,
Sarah Meta, Deputy Director of Governor Affairs ACLU, said in
a statement shared with Newsweek.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
And then this paragraph is important.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
With over one hundred and seventy billion dollars, ICE will
become the largest law enforcement agency in the US with
a budget bigger than most of the world's militaries. Armed
with that funding, this administration will be able to multiply
its raids and detain over seven hundred and fifty thousand children,
parents and longtime residents and remote detention camps where even
now people are dying. So one hundred and seventy billion
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dollars is crazy, man, I mean that's yearly funding too.
There's nothing funded like that. I don't even think the
CIA is funded like that, like no.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And it kind of reminds me a little bit like
the War on drugs, which is there's the cost of
the war on drugs, and then there's the costs that
aren't added into the war on drugs. So we fund
the DEEA a certain amount to fight the war on drugs,
but what's not included is all the money to pay
for the courts and the jails and the incarceration and
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all these things. And when you legalize, say marijuana in
say California, not only are you not paying for the
cops to enforce this anymore, but you're not paying to
incarcerate people, You're not paying for the court dates, you're
not paying for all of that stuff. And so these
are costs added on top of it that aren't in
the ICE budget that go into the courts and the
detention and all the other things that happen. I mean,
(47:01):
it's just ridiculous and for what. Oh and let's not
forget these people. Many of them paid taxes, certainly pay
sales tax and all the taxes that you can't get
out of just living in the United States, be it
legally or not. But many of them had Social Security numbers,
be they fabricated or whatnot. But they paid into the
(47:22):
system and they never took out. So there's these other
costs included on top of it. This is just bad
for the economy all around.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Absolutely, yeah, And so I just looked it up.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
CIA's yearly budget is only about seventy two point four
billion a year, so this would be a more than yeah,
almost one hundred billion dollars more per year. That's unbelievable.
And the biggest complaint with about the CIA is how
incredibly fun and well funded and the evil of an
organization it is. I mean, granted, that's a the CIA polyitics,
(47:57):
you know, cooks the books a little bit, because most
federal agencies do. But like you were saying, I can't
even believe they're gonna get this much money, and it's
going to cost us so much more than.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
One hundred and seventy billion dollars a year. So much more.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, I mean, and for what it's it is a
dog and pony show of sorts. This was Trump's promise
and he's got to make good on it. But it's
gonna hurt. Just like everything he does, it hurts the base.
This doesn't help the base. I was thinking about this,
so I don't know if we've discussed this on the
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show yet, but Armando Obrego Garcia, as you know, was
returned to the United States of America from Seacott and
immediately arrested for human trafficking right in Texas. Jesus they're
in is a tacit admission by the Trump administration. When
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they arrested him for human trafficking, they made an admission
to us that we are in are terrible times because
what they are admitting to us is that the new
way we do justice in the United States of America
is first they don't like you, and then they go
look for the crime to charge you with.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
It used to be the other way around. First you
commit the crime and then they come after you. Now
it's they come after you, then they find the crime.
Because nobody, but nobody and everybody was following this case
very closely. No one mentioned human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
No extrapolated that from a fucking bodycam footage of him
getting pulled over with a bunch of his friends in
the car.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah. Eight and they were in the car, if I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, they literally just saw the eight brown people in
this car. Must be trafficking with absolutely no. And I
guess there's witnesses quote unquote, and a lot of them
are people who are having but they're basically openly bribing
to do this by reducing their sentences in prison and
stuff like that. Yeah, they're pretty openly doing it. They're like,
we're gonna we're if we don't like you, we're gonna
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charge you with a crime, or we're gonna deport you first.
And if people get mad at us, then we're gonna
charge you with a crime.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Uh. And then we're gonna openly by.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
People to testify against you.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Make sure you get put away. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Look, I'll just say this quickly because it is besides
the point. I grew up in a family of six kids.
Every car ride I did was eight people in the car.
Speaker 6 (50:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, I'm also I live in a Mexican neighborhood. I
have a million in one Mexican friends. Eight Mexican guys
in a car is called on the way to work
going to a work No.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Shit, dude, Like, no part odd. I was like, Yeah,
have you ever been to La What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, that's some white ass privilege that that would strike
you as odd A and b it's besides the point.
The point is they didn't like him first. He was
making Trump look bad, and so they went and found
a crime to charge him with. That's called fascism. And
they're doing it out in the open.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Oh yeah, and they're a lot of the reasons they're
doing it out of the open is because they're so
blatantly stupid and incompetent. But that's the thing. All fascism,
all authoritarianism, is stupid. There's no genius authoritarians out there.
They're blustering ego maniacs, a narcissists, every single one of them.
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And so they're going to do really dumb things. And
I mean, we look at it as brazen because it is,
but it's also just stupid. They're not good at crimes, like,
they're just bad at it.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, but they don't have to be. And speaking, So
if you don't like Donald Trump, or more to the point,
donald Trump doesn't like you, they will go find a
crime to charge you with. If Donald Trump does like you,
it doesn't matter what your crime is. You could tase
a cop in the neck to the point that he
has a heart attack. You can spray a cop in
the face with bear spray. You can attack a cop
(52:00):
with a fire extinguisher. You can attack a cop with
a freaking American flag flagpole, and he will pardon you.
Not to mention, if you just pay him like Justin
Sun did. I mentioned it? Every week Crypto due Justin
Sun was being investigated by the Securities in Exchange Commission
(52:22):
bought seventy five million dollars worth of Trump's being coin
charges dropped, investigation gone. So if Donald Trump likes you,
or you pay him enough, you there is no crime
you can commit that he will not pardon you for.
If he doesn't like you, doesn't matter how clean you are,
they will find a crime to charge you with.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
That's an awful lot like Russia, when you really start
breaking it down, his his his hero, his daddy's that's sick.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Well anyway, it almost seems besides the point, But I
was going to ask you that. Elon Musk and Trump
got into it again, another little spat between lovers. But
Elon Musk says, he's going to finance a third party.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
What do you think he's going to call it? Has
he got it? Has he given it a name? Yet? Yes?
Speaker 2 (53:12):
It's names everything? Yes, which But is it good or
bad democracy that there'd be a third party? Does the
third party draw from strictly from the right. Is it
a parole pill if you will, that poisons the Conservative ticket?
(53:32):
Or does he pull from the left and the right
enough that it's a viable third party? Or is it
just bluster? And in the end Trump fucking makes a
deal with him and he comes back into the fold.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
I mean, I think if you tried to do it
in earnest, he will be deported.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
I mean, I think by.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
His American citizen I would imagine he is.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
Yes, But I mean, well, didn't they recently Supreme Court
recently decide that every single thing is one fucking executive
order away from being denaturalized or what any whim Trump
has essentially, so yeah, I could see him. I don't know.
He's got so much money. Trump loves money. So but
(54:15):
at the same time. Trump hates people that hate him,
so it will be a bit of a clash of
titans kind of thing. Yeah, idiots, but titans.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, I'm just curious. I think I would like him
to do it for no other reason than I think
it hurts the Republicans more than it hurts I.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Don't think any even moderate Liberals could find themselves voting
for Elon.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Musk Party for the EX Party, Yeah you know what
I mean, I can't.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I think he drags a bunch of bros that, you know.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yeah, the young yeah kids gen Z would be all
about that fucking X Party. Like I could see the
gen Z Nazi and Trump loving guys loving the EX
Party because they've already it seems like they're getting a
little The younger people are getting a little pissed off
with all the stuff Trump's doing. I don't know how
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they didn't know this would all happen, but uh, they're
not liking them as much as numbers are way down
with young people.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, so I really don't have too much more. I'm
looking at the other stories that I pulled, and they're
just more of the same US hit with mass shootings
and fatal accidents on Fourth of July. Holiday Violence and
shootings tend to surge during the summer, especially on the
(55:43):
deadliest day of the year.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Did you know it was the deadliest day of the
year July fourth? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (55:49):
I always thought, you know, me and you before the
podcast were talking about the absolute war zone that goes on.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
I'm in Vegas here in.
Speaker 3 (55:56):
LA until the late hours every fourth of July. I
did always think, like, man, this a hell of a time.
If a murder happened, no one would really know about
it for a while. That's well, the explosions comeing off,
so I guess I could see. Yeah, I guess logically
it does make sense it would be the deadliest from
you know, people blowing themselves up as well.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
I'm sure that happens pretty nobody.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
I mean, if you're going to shoot somebody, fourth of
July in La eight, nobody coulda notice gunshots?
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Sure one four solid hours.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
Our neighbor let off something yesterday and I was like,
a meth lab has just blown up. A house is
on fire, A meth labs blown up. And I didn't
even bother to go outside and look because I just
assumed it was a firework. A car could be burning
in the front of my house last night. I wouldn't
have noticed.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
I think a car was burning in front of my
house last night. He said.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
They went till four in the morning in La right, yeah,
your neighborhood, dad.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I was up to four. I'm dealing with it, Okay.
Final story, I guess then, and that is that. Did
you know what next week is?
Speaker 3 (57:09):
I don't know what next week is. I know I
won't be here for you guys next week. Just why everybody,
I'll be out of town. So I apologize, but I'll
be back the next next week. What is next week?
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Next week? The US House of Representatives has designated next week,
the week of July fourteenth, as crypto week.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Oh, the week of July four I will be back
for the start of crypto week.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Okay, so we can talk about crypto week. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Basically, they're going to go over some legislation that just
clears the path for Trump to do whatever he wants
with his crypto companies, to adopt the Trump stable coin
into the reserve all the night, all the stuff he's
been talking about. I mean, Trump's getting his wish list,
let's be honest. Oh yeah, Trump won not just the election,
(58:01):
he won everything.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah, with this bill, it's it couldn't be worse. I mean,
it could be, but I don't know how. I don't either.
I'm just an open minded guy. So I had to
say it could be worse.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
I mean, it could be worse for either one of
us personally. Yeah, but I don't see how.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah, you're right, I don't know. I know we usually
try to. I mean I don't know that we necessarily
do try to give it an optimistic spin at the end.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
No, I can't. I don't have it an optimistic bone
in my body. Yeah, I've said it before in the
comedy clubs. I've said it to fellow comedians who asked
me like, why would I, quite frankly, you know, jeopardize
my career by being so vociferously anti Trump, anti MAGA
(58:58):
in a climate when that could be dangerous. And I
always say the same thing I said, because I think
we're done, and when people go back and read the
history books, I want it to be very clear that
as the ship was going down, Michael Riggilio was doing
this on the deck. That's two middle fingers that I'm
giving on the way down. That's all it is. I
don't think there's we can save the world. I'll try,
(59:20):
I'll never stop fighting, but if nothing else, as the
ship's going down, the last thing you'll see is me
doing the double bird. Fuck you people for what you
goddamn did to this once beautiful, beautiful country and on
her birthday.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
You know, I really do feel the same way. As
far as when you were kind enough to ask me
to co host this with you and even just be
on the first time, I was like, because even to
my stand up, I don't really do anything that political,
and my stand up I sort of just talk about
all my fucked up my family is and stuff, you know.
And I was like, do I really fully come out
of the closet as just a filthy, godless leftist and
(01:00:03):
really just put it all out there with my friend
Michael Virgilio, And I was like, what do I even
have to lose? Just like, what the fuck would it matter?
If anything? I feel better at the end of each
week because I've finally gotten this stuff off my chest
in some sort of public forum, been able to be
like this sucks.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Why is everyone so dumb? It really makes me feel
good to share that with you. Every week.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yeah, it has been cathartic and well, we'll see what happens.
I mean, I will keep everyone posted as to what's
going on with my comedy special. But I heard from
the producer and it has been sold. It's coming out,
so ill my political political views did not stand in
the way of me getting the special out, and everyone'll
(01:00:49):
be kept in the loop as to exactly when we
can all watch it and get our hands on it.
But yeah, so far, so good, and I assure you
that should I be so lucky is to get noticed
and get it out there. I will be fronting these
positions loud and proud. I am not gonna tailor anything
for any audience.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Beautiful, yep, I mean cats out of the bag, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, that'd be kind of silly if I tried to
put it back in now.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, we'd have to do a hell a lot of backstep.
Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
And yeah, if we wanted to appeal to a more centrist.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I just actually, you don't have to do any backstepping.
All you have to do is go I had the
liberal mind virus, but I'm cured.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Now you can go full tempole and be like, why
I left the left or Mark Rubin or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Oh my god, you get so famous overnight. All you
gotta do is, yeah, I was a liberal and I
saw that the liberals are the wrong ones and the
mag is the right ones.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
And yeah, and Jesus talked to me.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
And don't listen to any of those people that said
I've touched him.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
It seems to always be the theme when people do that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I've left, I've joined Jesus. And those people that say
I touched him are all liars. And you can listen
off the former leftists one by one and they all
fit the exact anyway. We won't name names. Russell Brand
and uh.
Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
Yeah, absolutely, Russell freaking Brad bad what hope we had
for him.
Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
He was such a thinker.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
He was like you, but yeah, he talked about consciousness
a little too much. But I still liked where he
was going. I liked his philosophy. And you know, he
just couldn't stop touching people's genitals. Man, you know what
he was just But it was.
Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
So disappointing that this guy who was such a deep thinker,
we all followed his career. We're like, hey, this guy's
onto something. He's really thinking about the big picture, and
finally he was like, I got it, Mite, I got it.
I've been thinking about it. I have the answer.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
We're like, what what what.
Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Jesus, Yeah, you gotta be You thought about it and
that's what you came up with, Jesus of the Bible.
Thanks Bro, appreciating putting in the effort.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Only after being accused.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I know, only after tell you what. You can keep
thinking about it. I don't think it quite I don't
think you're quite there yet.
Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, a little laugh back, a.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Little more effort, all right, until we see you next.
Where can people find you between now and then?
Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Oh, you can find me at Clybird Comedy on them
just about everything. Can we come follow me on TikTok
a post clips seek from this beautiful podcast you can
see our lovely faces.
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Uh yeah, then that have a great week. I'll miss
you guys next week, and
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
We will miss you until then or war
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It's the end of the week. It's not the normal day.
We put this out because yesterday it was Independence Day. Yeah,
(00:41):
we're doing a Saturday weekly roundup. I thought maybe we'd
start with I'm gonna throw this at you at Travis,
you had no time to think about it. Okay, say
something nice about America for her birthday.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh okay, she's.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's not sure, that's so nice.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Lots of us, a whole lot of us. You know, no,
big as good, you know, big as positive.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Wow, you're you're into what is BBC's big beautiful countries.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Love a BBC. Don't don't quote that ship, don't quote
that out of context. Guy, what about you? You got any
you got any good, anything positive to say for her birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I will say that I've said it before. I'll say it.
I love you America. You are the country of my
birth and my home. I'm not saying that I don't.
I'm so blinded that I don't think that other countries
are great and aren't wonderful places to grow up. But
you are the country I grew up in, and until recently,
the best thing about you was that if you didn't
(01:57):
like it, you could change it. I used to always
say that there's something about America you don't like, change it.
We have that ability. I don't know that that's true anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If I'm being honest, it's fair.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I mean, eventually we will be led. You don't give
it thirty years, It'll be Trump's head and a glass
jar connected to Grock.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Sorry, no, no, they don't like Crock anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Oh, that's right, that's right. You were just I.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Had to inform you of something you didn't know about,
which kind of blew my mind that you had never
heard of mega super influencer cat Turd.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, I don't know, man, I'm pretty chronically online, and I.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Have no idea how I missed the existence of cat turd.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I thought you were saying some name that I was too,
that I was mishearing, like a third or something like
it was Turkish or something.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I know you made me say it like five times caws.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Like you're telling me it's cat turd, and yeah it is.
I can't believe I've never heard that before.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yes, So I guess we'll start with this because this,
I mean, this is it. This is as Trump said
about what did he say, uh, two romans? Uh when
he was speaking at Liberty University? Is that it's the
whole ball of axe, isn't it? Two romans? Right there? Hope? Anyway,
(03:26):
second romans for anyone. I know anyone listening to this
podcast would know. But like, dude, if you're going to
quote the Bible and say this one passage is the
whole ball of axe, get the name right, get the
name right?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Two romans? Some say three.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, many are saying three romans. I don't know who
these two romans were, but they got it right. They
said it exactly right. They knew like tell us you've
never read the Bible. Without telling us you've never read
the Bible.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
He doesn't even know the basic layout of the books
for Christ's sake.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
As we learned last week, neither does Ted Cruz. He's like,
but he's like, I believe what the Bible says, which is,
you know, those who support Israel will have God's love
or whatever. Tucker couss like, where's that in the Bible?
I don't know Genesis, the first books, first page, Buddy first,
(04:23):
first first paragraph, didn't know that. None of them read it,
hold it up sometimes upside down to win favor with
the base, of course. Back to cat Turn because cat
Turd summed it up. Cat Turn said, if Grok gets
(04:45):
any more woke, it's going to qualify for a job
on the View. And it's like, there you go. That's it, folks,
What else do you need to know? If an AI
programmed by Elon Musk is too woke for you, your
problem is with facts. You don't like reality, which we
knew because you live in a fever dream cult.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But yeah, there is a great TikTok out there, TikTok
channel called roc Versus Maga. I couldn't recommend it for
people enough, and it's just screenshots with an AI voice
reading like people trying their best to get Groc to
not tell them reality like rock. Isn't it true the
Jews have space lasers, Like you're saying crazy stuff and
(05:30):
Groc is just being almost mean to them with facts.
It's pretty amazing. I recommend it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Wow, Well, we are going to get into our space
laser friend, Marjorie Taylor Green in just a moment, because
the I mean, the story that's breaking right now is
a tragic one, and we talk about tragedy on this
podcast all the time. Yeah, and sometimes it does feel
like self inflicted. I don't know that you could say
(05:59):
that necessar early with this, but at current I just
checked a reliable website thirty two dead flash flood in Texas. Now,
you could say flash floods happen in Texas, but actually,
statistically speaking, rainstorms bring about twenty percent more rain in
(06:24):
Texas now than they did fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
So something's changing. We know it is something. Yeah, we
obviously know what it is.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I was seeing something where the rain was coming on
at twelve inches per hour, which is unbelievable. That's crazy.
I know, a flood an hour, that's crazy. I've never
even heard of that, unless we're like talking about the
Amazonian rainforest, something like.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Where Noah's flood. I think that was more flood an hour. Yeah,
had to cover the entire earth, but.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, forty days.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Forty That said, the reason that I say that this
felt like self inflicted is that, well, due to cuts
to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency as well as
others we've discussed this, the government's obligation to the people
of the United States of America to give accurate weather
(07:22):
reporting has fallen short, considerably short. And without actually pointing
at Trump and saying you did this, Texas officials are
acknowledging Hey, like, nobody told us that it was going
to be like this, and it seems like a predictable thing.
If you're going to have twelve inches an hour, that
seems like the kind of thing that the Doppler radar
(07:43):
would pick up on.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I mean a well funded one.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
A well funded one. And in fact, we have a
clip I believe of an official in Texas making that argument.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
See original forecast that we received on Wednesday from the
National Weather Sir. This predicted three to six inches of
rain in the Concho Valley and four to eight inches
of rain in the Hill country. You can go back
and look at your own forecast, and the amount of
rain that fell in this specific location was never in
any of those forecasts.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well there it is big bullets, all right, three to
six inches in general.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Right. That's so it was beyond what four times what
they predicted.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And I mean, I have some information here that specifically
talks about what's going on right now with the big
beautiful Bill and the cuts that that are happening right
now with these agencies. The Trump administration has slashed funding
(08:51):
for climate research programs, canceling a fifteen million dollars bio
diversity grant, dismantling the US Global change research progress, and
weakening carbon monitoring efforts at NAA, the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Agency, which jeopardizes decades of data like the who
(09:12):
I don't know this word, the Keeling curve and I
need to look that up. Do you mind looking that up?
K E E L I N G curve curve?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
See what that?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
In addition, multiple US government climate assessment websites have been
taken offline all together just don't exist anymore. And this
is not just by the way, flooding in Texas I
will point out that as we speak, a historic heat
wave is scorching Europe. Rivers like the Danube, Bryant and
(09:45):
Vistula are record lows. And there's a heat wave on
the East Coast as well, which is called a heat dome,
which is directly linked to climate change.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Jesus well here. The Keeling curve is a graph of
the annual variation and overall accumulation of carbon dioxide in
the air's atmosphere, based on continuous measurements taken at the
the Tsumawana Loa Observatory on the island of Hawaii from
nineteen fifty eight to present day. And if you're somebody
(10:18):
I'm not saying, lizard people who wants to keep the
old evidence of climate change hush hush, maybe to keep
fueling oil companies or I mean, let's not get our
tenfoil hats on here too much. But it's a curve
that goes from nineteen fifty eight and it just is
a straight shot up. It's an unbelievable linear lineup. So
(10:40):
if you look up the Keeling curve, you'll see that
it's pretty damning. I could see why they people do
not see that, Yeah, or not.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Involving not just NOAA, but a number of other agencies
are experiencing severe shortages of meteorologists, according to internal documents
obtained by.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The New York Times in April.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So these are the very people that let you know
it's time to get to high ground when there's a
flood coming, and you know, again to look this thing
square in the eyes. These were children in summer camps
that may very well have been lost. You know, the
reporting is still ongoing, but these are innocent victim. I mean,
(11:28):
they're all innocent victims, I suppose. But these people didn't
even vote for Trump, but not that Trump caused the storm.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying the reporting could have been.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Better, yeah, better funded.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It just I mean, it shows you what happens when
you're anti science, too, when you're antie because like that,
that is kind of what this feels like to me
a lot. I mean, not only is it they're trying
to save money to afford all the tax breaks to
rich people, but like that, he is an authoritarian who
wants to attack science. He wants to attack research, and
this is just part of that. And there's these are
(12:03):
the consequences of being anti science, like if you fire
the scientist and the hell was it four episodes ago,
all the people that died in Kentucky and Tennessee because
they didn't have the money to have a night shift guy,
because we all know storms never come at night, and
there was no one to sound the sirens. There was
no one to warn people, and the tornado just took
(12:25):
out you know, two states across.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, no one to help.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I mean, when you are completely cold to human suffering,
these these cuts are easy. It's like with Trump, I
said it before that with COVID, he gave away the
game when they say he said, they said the testing
shows that COVID rates are going up. He's like, then
stop testing. Yeah, And this is the same. It's like
(12:52):
climate change is really dangerous, then stop researching it, stop
looking at it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, stop adding data to things like this curve. You
just don't put any data points on it, then it
won't say that it's true.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's exactly where we are, so speaking of Well, actually
Donald Trump did address this and we have a clip
of that. So again, highly empathetic, clearly concerned with the situation.
This is him after spending the day at the White
House yesterday paling around, didn't mention the floods or the
(13:29):
deaths in Texas. I guess he didn't want to spoil
the party by being presidential.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Being real buzzkill.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
But he finally mentioned it today and this is what
he had to say.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Shocking. They don't know the answer yet is to how
many people, but it looks like.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So young people who have died.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, we'll take care of them.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Working with the governor. We're working with the govern It's
a terrible thing. Yeah yeah, it don't work with the governor.
Work with the scientists.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean climate change is literally the perfect example of it.
It's too late for this, we know this. But there's
the old saying that an ounce of prevention is worth
a ton of cure. Yeah, well we failed with the
ounce of prevention.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Not to mention how many times in this podcast so
far we talked about the fact that, I mean, what
FEMA is going to be gone in a few months.
The head of it didn't know hurricane season was a thing.
I mean, christ there, I think by the way, next yeah,
a Monday, I'm flying to Florida and I'm only gonna
be there for four days. Visit my wife's family, and
hopefully it's not a hurricane, because if there is, we
(14:40):
won't know about it. That'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean there might well be who knows a hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, we've been like looking into it to see if
anything's coming, and.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I wouldn't know. I don't don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Your best bet is like, try and find a short
wave radio and reach out to some like Jamaican fishermen
or Cuban fish man like you guys seeing anything on
your end coming our way? Yes, no other way of
knowing what the weather is.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
That one homeless dude in Miami that lives on this
boat and refused to leave during that one hurricane and
he's like, I'm just riding it out, baby.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We'll have to hang out with that guy. Hopefully will
be okay.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Uh. I actually came across the clip of a woman
whose home was completely flooded just to even though it's
just audio, you can hear her sloshing around in her home.
So why don't we play that just so people understand
the exact severity of this flash flood.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Okay, my house is flooding. Anybody out there. I have
my dad on hospice and I need to get him
out of here, So somebody please. We've called by one one.
It's battled here in front of the house.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's like a river.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
I mean, it's like a lake.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
She's walking through her bedroom, her kids bedroom. That's what
you hear, this large cars everything.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
She's looking at the front door right now and it
just looks like she's in the middle of an ocean.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But there's trees that it's wild.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
So anybody please, if you have a boat or something,
I need help.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I need to get my dad out of here.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It's starting to smell like sewer in here.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
And the water is brown. Yeah. Woof.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Again, we're not so stupid that we don't realize these
things happened one hundred years ago, two hundred years ago,
and that they used to say, although no one weather
event can directly be linked to climate change, I think
that's bullshit nowadays too. I think weather events can be
linked to climate change, particularly extreme weather events.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Every meteorologist and weather scientists is in unanimous agreement on
that being a fact. They're like, I've seen a escale
and how often these storms hit their severity like it's
not even it's not even a debate like this is
climate caused weather events?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And also like I hate that fucking excuse so much.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
The conservatives love to use where they say things like
like well, these things have always happened. It's like, well,
they know why we should have grow as a society
to prevent them from happening.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Are we are we beyond that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But that's also so disingenuous when they say that because
weather has always changed, we had ice ages and what
I Yeah, and look at how long it took for
the weather to change thousands and thousands of years for
us to go through cycles. This is in under one
hundred years, and it's directly linked to the Industrial revolution
(17:45):
and the putting of CO two into the air. It's
the most simple thing to prove in the world. All
you have to do is take a container, put a
thermometer in it, give it a power source like a light,
shine it into it, and then add CO two into
the container and watch the temperature go up. That's it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Climate change is real unless you're saying that's not CO
two coming out of your freaking truck and not CO
two coming out of the factories. Maybe the conspiracy theory
goes so far. CO two is bullshit. Yeah, that's not
CO two coming out of my truck. You ever seen
CO two? I haven't.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Can you touch it?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
No? No?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I run my diesel truck in my garage all the
time with the door close, and I'm fine.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Well, it's funny you should say that because somebody who
I think may well have been running their car in
the garage with the door closed, none other than Marjorie
Taylor Green.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Oh yeah, she tweeted something that for once, I have
to get credit where credit's due.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
She said something sane and reasonable. If I may read
two this, I've never tried it. Marjorie Taylor Green impression before.
I think I'm gonna give it a shot. Right now,
I am introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release,
or dispersion of chemical substances into the atmosphere for the
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express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity.
It will be a felony offense. I have been researching
weather modification and working with the Legislative Council for months
writing this bill. It will be similar to Florida Senate
Bill B fifth or Bill five to six. We must
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end the dangerous and deadly practice of weather modification and
geo engineering. Oh so man made climate changes real, But
not because of CO two and oil companies and trucks
and factories, but because of and A. I bite my
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tongue to say this, But if I'm seriously trying to
put myself in her head because of the Jews, I
mean yeah, I mean it's their space lasers.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I mean yeah, this was I'm calling this tweet long
form Jewish space laser because that's what it was. It
was like, No, I learned all the words like geo engineering,
and I'm a new and research I can't even imagine
how stupid the research this woman does. Oh my, how
dumb it has to be. She just watches the YouTube
videos of flat earthers.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You guys, wow, you know, I mean, my head is spinning.
And by the way, Marjorie, you know, why don't you
just reach out to the Jewish people and ask them, like, look,
we have the serious flood. Could you use the space
lasers to evaporate the waters? It would really help us out.
I mean, space lasers can be used for good and evil.
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We all know that. We all know that.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
If we've got these lasers because I remember, you know,
last hurricane season, one of the elections were going on
honor with the election cycle, people were blaming maga people.
We're blaming Democrats for using this weather machine to attack Florida,
to attack these red states. Right, but now that Trump
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is in power, all of a sudden, the Democrats, I mean,
they couldn't possibly still have access to these.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Before Trump could get to the White House, they hid
the weather machine. Yeah, They're like, okay, well, if Trump's
coming in, we can't let him have the weather machine
or the space lasers. So they hit it all in
a secret liberal bunker.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
A liberal bunker.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's an underground bunker with a Pride flag on itither'
like a liberal bunker.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So I did want to hit you real quick. With
Representative Jared Muskowitz's response to Marjorie Tooaylor Green, he said,
I'm introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release, or
dispersion of stupidity into Congress. Good luck with that one.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I mean that's going to fail.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
That's them voting against their best interest, you know, their
own interest, baby.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And just one more, because why not I came across
and what is with these crazy right wing rednecks. You're you're, you're,
you're from redneck blood. You can tell me. This is
Candace Taylor. She is a Christian Georgian. This is what
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her ex profile says. Christian Georgian Maga Jesus, Guns and
Babies candidate for Congress twenty twenty six GA District one. Babies, Yeah,
and babies. So when I tell you her name is Candace,
put out your redneck redneck cap? How's that spelled?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Ooh ooh ooh? Okay, all right?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
If I'm going like and when this is Georgia, we're
also Marjorie Taylor Green is from yeah, Georgia, Candace, Okay,
gotta be a C. Let's start with a C or
k ok Oh damn it. I knew it was gonna
start with a K. I should have guessed K. I
should have went with my with my white trash gut
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u K I N D I S.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
K A n D I S S Candace. And it's
even better than I thought. Oh my god, I swear
to God and this is just me being so mean.
And you know that we I've said it so many times.
I love the Southern accent. It's my favorite American vernacular.
But I swear to God, they're at the hospital and
they heard the name and they liked it, and I Candace,
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that's a nice name. Okay, how do you spell that?
Ka and dss. It's a made up spelling of somebody
trying to spell the name Candace. I know it. There's
no way this is not just some person trying to
figure out.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, they're doing their best.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
So Candace, Candace, Candace again? Who is Christian? Georgia Maga Jesus.
Guns and babies, Guns and babies, that's her thing, guns
and babies. Guess she's got no problem with giving a
baby a gun. Of course not.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's gonna defend itself against the gay agenda.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Before I read this, I will say that I I
social media out the other day. I think all Americans
should own a gun. Can you imagine three hundred and
fifty million people all sharing one gun? Problem solved?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah? Who gets the gun this week? Yeah? We all
have to vote on it.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I know fights will be so different. I'll have you know.
I have put in for the gun. And in four
to five years, you better watch. You better be looking
over your shoulder, boy, because.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You better watch out man, I'm coming for you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Everyone gets it for ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, you better use it wisely.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Anyway. I only say that because, of course, mercilessly attacked
by right wingers. They didn't like that joke. I thought
comedy was back, and then you make a joke about guns,
and as I like to say, Trump's president now. So
since clearly no one is coming for your guns, please
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stop coming for your guns. It's freaking gross. You disgusting.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Ammo sexuals dude, yeah, it is sexual.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I've actually been attempting to I know we're going out
a slight tangent here, but I've been trying to use
more toxic masculinity to fight gun loving people who are
toxic masculine, because I think, if anything, if you want
to be a bro about it, guns are kind of
a pussy ass way to do things, you know what
I mean, Like you can just what any guy, any
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guy can just pull out a gun and shoots you.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I think a woman could shoot you, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Oh yeah, shoot you dead, even though you're a big
strong man, graveyard dead.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's why I'm trying to make swords.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Sexual could shoot you with a gun and kill you
and kill how tough are you if a gay guy
could do it, if a could do it.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh a lesbian, no way, exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
No, lesbian just pulls a trick.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
Same.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's that's why I'm pro sword, all right. That's the
only way to show you're actually a man. And if
we make swords cool, then they won't have guns anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh. A number of guys that thought swords were cool,
they were the least cool dudes. I know, I'm you're
not getting down on it, guys that are the swords.
I'm just saying that. My personal experience was the guy
that wanted to show you his sword. You were the
first person to be over at his house ever. Yeah,
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got shooting my sword.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So Candice tweeted fake weather, real damage Hurricane Helena. Yeah Helena,
h E L E N E. Which one was that
was that called Helena?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
It's been so long, Helen. I believe you, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hurricane Helena left me powerless for sixteen days and cost
fifty seven thousand dollars in damage. This isn't just quote
climate change end quote. It's cloud seating, geo engineering and manipulation.
If faith, if fake weather crusades, it's fake weather. Crusades
and real tragedy, that's murder. Pray, prepare and question the narrative.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Interesting, Why did she never consider it was God? You know,
if she believes that, you know, how come so every
other storm that happens anywhere else or the fires in California?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
God?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, have they ever stop to consider maybe God's mad
at him?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I don't know, No, because they voted for Trump, and
God loves Trump. He steered a bullet away from the
man's head, so obviously they're in the right. So any
bad weather that happens to them is Jewish space lasers
or liberals with weather machines, and any bad weather that
happens to us is God. What an amazing brain, What
an amazing brain.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I wish I could sort my brain into fun little
piles like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Good things, good things, God? Bad things? Yeah, some other
motherfucker devil?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I know you know Roy, but oh you know. I
debated Roy Ellison on the show not long ago episode
I can't remember the number, but it's called Christian versus Atheist.
And at some point, as Roy was going through all this,
I just stopped and I said.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is it fun.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Is it fun believing all this stuff that you're a
righteous war like you're living in dungeons and dragons land man,
and he started laughing. He was like, it is a realm.
I do believe we're living in a realm. I'm like,
he admits.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
It realms, Baby, that's realms.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Evildoers and dragons and people righteous soldiers. And it's way
better than I'm just a dude on the planet trying
to do my best. You're a righteous soldier fighting dragons.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, and you have like a power above you who's
got your back no matter what. That's got to feel great. Delusional,
but it's kind of feel great.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Okay, Well that's that. Why don't we get onto Speaking
of weather events, and you're going to floor none other
than alcatraz Or. Alligator Alcatraz has been in the news
all week. Really sucked up a lot of oxygen this week.
A lot of people talking Alligator Alcatraz, including a group
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of five Democratic state lawmakers in Florida that were denied entry. Again,
denied entry to this in case anyone's unaware, which would
blow my mind if you were unaware. But it's a
new detention camp built by rondsanct Aimonious in Florida in
the Everglades, where, yeah, the deterrent from escape is not
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so much the fences and the guards as much as
it is the alligators and the pythons. And they're calling
it Alligator Alcatraz. Some are calling it Alligator Auschwitz.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I believe I think that's a more apt name personally,
because it's it's literally a camp. It's a bunch of
tents and a bunch of bunk beds in the middle
of swamp country land where they kept trying to sell it,
by the way to people, but it's you can't build
anything on it or it will sink into swamps, so
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they couldn't. They just were like, fuck it, let's just
build a concentration camp there.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I did have this thought and it kind of I
was thinking about like these mass deportations and you're seeing
the elderly gardener being basically beaten by ten ice agents, yeah,
on the mass side of the road, and the idea
of locking sending them off to third world prisons without
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a trial, or sending them to Alligator Alcatraz. And it
occurred to me that these are all Christians that support Trump.
This is Christian nationalism. It's a crysto fascist movement in
my opinion. And I was like, how can they justify
this cruelty? And then I was like, wait a second,
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They've already endorsed the worst cruelty of them all, the
infinite punishment of hell, for far lesser crimes than coming
into the country and illegally and working a job, just
the crime of not believing in Jesus. And they're they're
okay with you being tortured forever for that. So how
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is this this is this is tame compared to this
thing They've already signed up for, this infinite punishment, this
infinite torture to people who did nothing wrong other than
just didn't believe a story that came with no evidence
to support it.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I mean think about like when a real or something
who's a true believer in Christianity like tells people that
they want them to burn in hell for believing, I
don't know, just being in different religion. It could be
as simple as that, or saying something they don't like, Like,
you really got to think about the weight of that statement.
They want you to roast in fire? Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I do not want you to roast. Oh Travis, you're
so wrong. I want you. I want you in heaven
with me. Travis. It it kills me that you're going
to roast on a spit in hell forever. Oh Travis,
I wish you could be there with me. It sounds
like I just watched Glengary Glenn Ross. It literally sounds
like the sales pitch for a sleazy salesman. Oh Travis,
I wish you could. We are It's gonna be wonderful.
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I wish you could be there with this. Travis. Yeah, sure,
weazer my boss. He's trying to get some souls off
the books today. Is there anything I could? What is
it going to take to get you into Jesus today?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
They always try to sell you on it too. I
noticed that too, even because I feel like the initial
steps of meeting someone who's super religious and they especially
when they find out if you're an atheist or agnostic
or anything like that, So they could go through phases
and it usually goes like they pretend they are okay
with that. If they're kind of a chill person, they're like, oh,
that is fine, I accept you, and then over time
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they degrees of them trying to convert, you get stronger
and stronger because like they're having to. I think some
of them are really the nice ones. I have a
trouble because they truly believe that I'm going to burn forever.
But they, you know, they like me, they're friends with me,
and they they feel this obligation to try to save.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Me, and it makes it so fucking annoying. I'm like, don't, please, don't.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Wherever you're going by the party sucks in my opinion,
Like I don't think it's gonna be a good time.
I beg of you not to try to save me.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I beg of you leave me out of it.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I had some Christians knock on the door not so
long ago, and they were like five of them in
their Sunday best a gang. Yeah, and they looked they
look fantastic, They look great, And there's no doubt in
my mind that ostensibly, without digging too deep, these are sweet,
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nice people, right. And they were like, we're here or
two to give you the good news of Jesus Christ.
Can we come in and talk to you about Jesus?
And I was like, I've been waiting for you.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Wait till you hear what my job is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I was like, you want to convert me. You your
mission in life is to turn me Christian. My journey
in life, my mission in life is to convert you
to atheists. Let's go, let's do this, let's do this fight.
And so they came in and they couldn't have been sweeter,
they couldn't have been nicer, and right away, I, you know,
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I laid into them a little. I was like, I
think it's just part of the human condition that we all,
all societies, all cultures, we all create gods. I think
there's something inherent in the in the human brain that
makes us assign agency to nature. And they were like what.
I was like, God bless them again, God bless him.
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And I was like, I was like, all cultures have
created gods, not just yours. And one of them goes, oh,
like the Greeks they had gods, right. I was like,
good Lord, okay, And they picked up on it pretty quick,
and they said, Michael, Michael, we can tell that you're
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really smart, and you're We're not the people to convince you.
But there is a guy at our church who his
specialty is talking to atheists. Would it be right if
next Sunday he came around and talked to you. I
was like, yes, it would, I'll be here all day.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Is he coming tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
And they sent him by. He already came. Now this
was this was some months ago now and he came
in and you are not going to believe is knock
knock down layout punch. That got me and it got
me good. He said to me, Uh, Michael, if if
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you were to be given advice, and the two people
giving your advice, one was a three year old baby
and the other was a seventy five year old man,
who would you take the advice from? I said, I
would take the advice from the seventy five year old man.
He goes, why, that's good answer. I like that answer, like,
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oh you do Wow, I want to beat the people
that gave you the other answer. I think i'd go
with the baby. Yeah, baby said, that's looking like a
smart baby. He goes, Okay, I like that answer, Michael.
And he thought he had me. He's like, oh, he's
following for my trap. He's answered these questions exactly the
way I thought he was going to. Why would you
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go with the seventy five year old man? And I said, well,
the longer you are around, the more stuff you learn,
and the smarter you get.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
He goes exactly.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Now, get ready, the Bible is over two thousand years old.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Okay, what the Bible is?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
So it knows even more than a seventy five year
old man, No, sir, Wow. See the seventy five year
old man, he's got this thing called a brain. It's
like a supercomputer where he can add new information in
crunch it come up with new data equals new conclusions.
The Bible is paper. Yeah, it doesn't give advice. Somebody
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with a brain wrote advice. But the person with a
brain didn't know as much as us because they lived
thousands of years. Like, this is not the argument you
think it is. He really thought I was gonna go,
oh shit, you're right. The Bible is really old. Therefore
it's really wise.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's man.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
If that works on you, if as a kid, this
is like the atheist whisper that they've sent after you.
If I gotta say from my heart, if you hear
that and you convert.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
To Christianity, you're a dumbassy. You are an idiot. That's
not even like remotely big brain, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Like that's not even like some weird philosophical concept. It's
just numbers eight by number. Wof that's rough.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I always say when somebody tells me, well, my friend
used to be an atheist and then he converted to Christianity,
And I'm like, well, then he was an atheist for
bad reasons, and he converted to Christianity for bad reasons.
Chances are nobody who fully understands atheism just converts to
Christianity unless Jesus comes to them personally in their bedroom,
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glowing in light, takes them into his bosom, imparts them
with wisdom beyond their years. I haven't heard about that,
but that would be a good reason. Sure, if that
happens to you, go for it. If some argument just
won you over.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, it's rough, Yeah, because the whole point of usually
atheist are people who have heard a million different arguments
from a million different perspectives and added up all the
data that points to Yeah, this is definitely a bullshit
like that is atheist. It's not hearing one side, it's
trying to hear, in my opinion or for me personally,
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hearing every single side going that side sounds fucking stupid.
It doesn't make any sense like that. So like, if
one thing can all of a sudden turn you right
back into a Christian?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, I had a guy this is you know. I've
complained many times about liberals who are atheists that hate atheists,
they find us so annoying. But I had a guy
say to me one time. I was like, do you
believe in God? And he was like, I don't know.
I was like, then you don't believe in God? No,
I just said I don't know. I said, right, if
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you don't know, if you believe in something, then you
don't believe in it. Please tell me list for me,
hold on, Please list for me something that you believe
in that you simultaneously also don't believe in. Yeah, Like,
if you don't know if you believe in it, you
don't believe in it. That's what belief is. Yeah, if
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you don't know if you believe in it, then you
don't believe in it. It's that simple. And Twitchy said, oh,
that's so fucking stupid. You're so fucking stupid, You're arrogant.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's afraid to let it go.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I feel like, because I do feel like there are
some people out there, especially some people who lean more agnostic,
who are just afraid to say out loud, I don't think.
I don't think any of this is real anymore, Like
to actually have that epiphany moment of like releasing your
kind of the confines of the religion that you've been
raised with, you know, letting it go, accepting that it's
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not real. And then that moment is Agnostic people especially
have a lot of trouble. They're still clinging on to it, like, ah,
maybe because I think they're just afraid to just.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Let it go, let the bird fly away, be free,
my brothers.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Look, the fact that matters. You just gave such a
perfect example somebody that says, I don't think this. I
don't know. If I think this is real, then you
don't think it's real. If you think it's real, you
think it's real. If you don't know, if you think
it's real, then you don't think it's real.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
That's just how it goes.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, well, yeah, you just haven't admitted it to yourself.
Because that's another thing too. Religion and lack thereof is
a deeply personal thing, and I think when it comes
to certain agnostic people or people like that.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Like they themselves have yet to admit what they.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Basically know is true, that it's horseship, and so they
that's that struggle, which is again why he calls you
an idiot, gets mad at you. Yeah, it's like it's yeah,
you're basically attacking something that's inside of them, you know
what I mean from their perspective.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
So it's just some sort of weird psychological thing where
the more sense somebody starts making, the more likely you
are to call them an idiot. Like if you're arguing
with somebody and they start making total fucking sense, then
you are going to call them an idiot. Then they're
the dumbest person you've ever met. The more sense they make,
the more you hate them for being so stupid. You're
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an idiot, God, because you're hurting my ability to hold
on to this cognitive dissonance.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, I know it is.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Does it flips that that It's got to be an
amegdala thing, you know what I mean. It's got to
be a lizard brain thing where you all of a
sudden you go into some fight or flight mode.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I know some people, like I've met people that freeze.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
So like you'll be making a point or maybe you're
arguing about something as personal as religion, and then you'll
make a good point and they just stop and you're like, hey,
you're still with me.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Their brains just fucking turn, or they've got to.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Do what we were just saying and go fucking attack
you like you're a stupid motherfucker man.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
You don't know nothing. Yeah, okay, all right, I see
I've touched a nerves.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I mean when it comes to atheists, and everyone listening
knows this because we've all had this debate, but the
arrogant card, Oh that.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Comes out quick.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
You make a couple of good points and they go, oh,
you are so arrogant.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
You're so arrogant.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
How oh oh, let me get Oh you know everything,
don't you? Yeah? I know everything. That's definitely what I
was saying. Yeah, okay, speaking of somebody that does think
they know everything, I just had a question for you,
because Elon Musk is still making noise about a third party.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
In fact, he and Trump got into it again over
the Big Beautiful Bill, which passed, and once again Michael
Rigillio is saying it's over, folks. I don't hold out hope.
I think we blew it. I really think we blew.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
It is a bad one man.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
The only way to stop fascism is you have to
stop it before they take power, because after they take
in power, they see to it that you cannot stop them.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
So well, in talking about Alligator Alcatraz and in talking
about the Big Beautiful Bill, just real quick, I wanted
to read from what this Big Beautiful Bill does. You're
talking about authoritarians taking power. This has now made ICE
the largest federal law enforcement This okay, this is a
quote from a Newsweek article. Let me just read this,
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these two paragraphs right here. And passing this bill, Congress
is stripping life saving healthcare from millions of Americans to
pay for an increasingly aggressive, dangerous, and obsessive deportation agenda,
Sarah Meta, Deputy Director of Governor Affairs ACLU, said in
a statement shared with Newsweek.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
And then this paragraph is important.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
With over one hundred and seventy billion dollars, ICE will
become the largest law enforcement agency in the US with
a budget bigger than most of the world's militaries. Armed
with that funding, this administration will be able to multiply
its raids and detain over seven hundred and fifty thousand children,
parents and longtime residents and remote detention camps where even
now people are dying. So one hundred and seventy billion
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dollars is crazy, man, I mean that's yearly funding too.
There's nothing funded like that. I don't even think the
CIA is funded like that, like no.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
And it kind of reminds me a little bit like
the War on drugs, which is there's the cost of
the war on drugs, and then there's the costs that
aren't added into the war on drugs. So we fund
the DEEA a certain amount to fight the war on drugs,
but what's not included is all the money to pay
for the courts and the jails and the incarceration and
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all these things. And when you legalize, say marijuana in
say California, not only are you not paying for the
cops to enforce this anymore, but you're not paying to
incarcerate people, You're not paying for the court dates, you're
not paying for all of that stuff. And so these
are costs added on top of it that aren't in
the ICE budget that go into the courts and the
detention and all the other things that happen. I mean,
(47:01):
it's just ridiculous and for what. Oh and let's not
forget these people. Many of them paid taxes, certainly pay
sales tax and all the taxes that you can't get
out of just living in the United States, be it
legally or not. But many of them had Social Security numbers,
be they fabricated or whatnot. But they paid into the
(47:22):
system and they never took out. So there's these other
costs included on top of it. This is just bad
for the economy all around.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Absolutely, yeah, And so I just looked it up.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
CIA's yearly budget is only about seventy two point four
billion a year, so this would be a more than yeah,
almost one hundred billion dollars more per year. That's unbelievable.
And the biggest complaint with about the CIA is how
incredibly fun and well funded and the evil of an
organization it is. I mean, granted, that's a the CIA polyitics,
(47:57):
you know, cooks the books a little bit, because most
federal agencies do. But like you were saying, I can't
even believe they're gonna get this much money, and it's
going to cost us so much more than.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
One hundred and seventy billion dollars a year. So much more.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, I mean, and for what it's it is a
dog and pony show of sorts. This was Trump's promise
and he's got to make good on it. But it's
gonna hurt. Just like everything he does, it hurts the base.
This doesn't help the base. I was thinking about this,
so I don't know if we've discussed this on the
(48:33):
show yet, but Armando Obrego Garcia, as you know, was
returned to the United States of America from Seacott and
immediately arrested for human trafficking right in Texas. Jesus they're
in is a tacit admission by the Trump administration. When
(48:55):
they arrested him for human trafficking, they made an admission
to us that we are in are terrible times because
what they are admitting to us is that the new
way we do justice in the United States of America
is first they don't like you, and then they go
look for the crime to charge you with.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
It used to be the other way around. First you
commit the crime and then they come after you. Now
it's they come after you, then they find the crime.
Because nobody, but nobody and everybody was following this case
very closely. No one mentioned human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
No extrapolated that from a fucking bodycam footage of him
getting pulled over with a bunch of his friends in
the car.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Yeah. Eight and they were in the car, if I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, they literally just saw the eight brown people in
this car. Must be trafficking with absolutely no. And I
guess there's witnesses quote unquote, and a lot of them
are people who are having but they're basically openly bribing
to do this by reducing their sentences in prison and
stuff like that. Yeah, they're pretty openly doing it. They're like,
we're gonna we're if we don't like you, we're gonna
(50:04):
charge you with a crime, or we're gonna deport you first.
And if people get mad at us, then we're gonna
charge you with a crime.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Uh. And then we're gonna openly by.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
People to testify against you.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Make sure you get put away. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Look, I'll just say this quickly because it is besides
the point. I grew up in a family of six kids.
Every car ride I did was eight people in the car.
Speaker 6 (50:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, I'm also I live in a Mexican neighborhood. I
have a million in one Mexican friends. Eight Mexican guys
in a car is called on the way to work
going to a work No.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Shit, dude, Like, no part odd. I was like, Yeah,
have you ever been to La What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, that's some white ass privilege that that would strike
you as odd A and b it's besides the point.
The point is they didn't like him first. He was
making Trump look bad, and so they went and found
a crime to charge him with. That's called fascism. And
they're doing it out in the open.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Oh yeah, and they're a lot of the reasons they're
doing it out of the open is because they're so
blatantly stupid and incompetent. But that's the thing. All fascism,
all authoritarianism, is stupid. There's no genius authoritarians out there.
They're blustering ego maniacs, a narcissists, every single one of them.
(51:27):
And so they're going to do really dumb things. And
I mean, we look at it as brazen because it is,
but it's also just stupid. They're not good at crimes, like,
they're just bad at it.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, but they don't have to be. And speaking, So
if you don't like Donald Trump, or more to the point,
donald Trump doesn't like you, they will go find a
crime to charge you with. If Donald Trump does like you,
it doesn't matter what your crime is. You could tase
a cop in the neck to the point that he
has a heart attack. You can spray a cop in
the face with bear spray. You can attack a cop
(52:00):
with a fire extinguisher. You can attack a cop with
a freaking American flag flagpole, and he will pardon you.
Not to mention, if you just pay him like Justin
Sun did. I mentioned it? Every week Crypto due Justin
Sun was being investigated by the Securities in Exchange Commission
(52:22):
bought seventy five million dollars worth of Trump's being coin
charges dropped, investigation gone. So if Donald Trump likes you,
or you pay him enough, you there is no crime
you can commit that he will not pardon you for.
If he doesn't like you, doesn't matter how clean you are,
they will find a crime to charge you with.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
That's an awful lot like Russia, when you really start
breaking it down, his his his hero, his daddy's that's sick.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Well anyway, it almost seems besides the point, But I
was going to ask you that. Elon Musk and Trump
got into it again, another little spat between lovers. But
Elon Musk says, he's going to finance a third party.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
What do you think he's going to call it? Has
he got it? Has he given it a name? Yet? Yes?
Speaker 2 (53:12):
It's names everything? Yes, which But is it good or
bad democracy that there'd be a third party? Does the
third party draw from strictly from the right. Is it
a parole pill if you will, that poisons the Conservative ticket?
(53:32):
Or does he pull from the left and the right
enough that it's a viable third party? Or is it
just bluster? And in the end Trump fucking makes a
deal with him and he comes back into the fold.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
I mean, I think if you tried to do it
in earnest, he will be deported.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
I mean, I think by.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
His American citizen I would imagine he is.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
Yes, But I mean, well, didn't they recently Supreme Court
recently decide that every single thing is one fucking executive
order away from being denaturalized or what any whim Trump
has essentially, so yeah, I could see him. I don't know.
He's got so much money. Trump loves money. So but
(54:15):
at the same time. Trump hates people that hate him,
so it will be a bit of a clash of
titans kind of thing. Yeah, idiots, but titans.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, I'm just curious. I think I would like him
to do it for no other reason than I think
it hurts the Republicans more than it hurts I.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
Don't think any even moderate Liberals could find themselves voting
for Elon.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
Musk Party for the EX Party, Yeah you know what
I mean, I can't.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I think he drags a bunch of bros that, you know.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
Yeah, the young yeah kids gen Z would be all
about that fucking X Party. Like I could see the
gen Z Nazi and Trump loving guys loving the EX
Party because they've already it seems like they're getting a
little The younger people are getting a little pissed off
with all the stuff Trump's doing. I don't know how
(55:14):
they didn't know this would all happen, but uh, they're
not liking them as much as numbers are way down
with young people.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, so I really don't have too much more. I'm
looking at the other stories that I pulled, and they're
just more of the same US hit with mass shootings
and fatal accidents on Fourth of July. Holiday Violence and
shootings tend to surge during the summer, especially on the
(55:43):
deadliest day of the year.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Did you know it was the deadliest day of the
year July fourth? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (55:49):
I always thought, you know, me and you before the
podcast were talking about the absolute war zone that goes on.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
I'm in Vegas here in.
Speaker 3 (55:56):
LA until the late hours every fourth of July. I
did always think, like, man, this a hell of a time.
If a murder happened, no one would really know about
it for a while. That's well, the explosions comeing off,
so I guess I could see. Yeah, I guess logically
it does make sense it would be the deadliest from
you know, people blowing themselves up as well.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
I'm sure that happens pretty nobody.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
I mean, if you're going to shoot somebody, fourth of
July in La eight, nobody coulda notice gunshots?
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Sure one four solid hours.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
Our neighbor let off something yesterday and I was like,
a meth lab has just blown up. A house is
on fire, A meth labs blown up. And I didn't
even bother to go outside and look because I just
assumed it was a firework. A car could be burning
in the front of my house last night. I wouldn't
have noticed.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
I think a car was burning in front of my
house last night. He said.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
They went till four in the morning in La right, yeah,
your neighborhood, dad.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I was up to four. I'm dealing with it, Okay.
Final story, I guess then, and that is that. Did
you know what next week is?
Speaker 3 (57:09):
I don't know what next week is. I know I
won't be here for you guys next week. Just why everybody,
I'll be out of town. So I apologize, but I'll
be back the next next week. What is next week?
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Next week? The US House of Representatives has designated next week,
the week of July fourteenth, as crypto week.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Oh, the week of July four I will be back
for the start of crypto week.
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Okay, so we can talk about crypto week. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Basically, they're going to go over some legislation that just
clears the path for Trump to do whatever he wants
with his crypto companies, to adopt the Trump stable coin
into the reserve all the night, all the stuff he's
been talking about. I mean, Trump's getting his wish list,
let's be honest. Oh yeah, Trump won not just the election,
(58:01):
he won everything.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Yeah, with this bill, it's it couldn't be worse. I mean,
it could be, but I don't know how. I don't either.
I'm just an open minded guy. So I had to
say it could be worse.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
I mean, it could be worse for either one of
us personally. Yeah, but I don't see how.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah, you're right, I don't know. I know we usually
try to. I mean I don't know that we necessarily
do try to give it an optimistic spin at the end.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
No, I can't. I don't have it an optimistic bone
in my body. Yeah, I've said it before in the
comedy clubs. I've said it to fellow comedians who asked
me like, why would I, quite frankly, you know, jeopardize
my career by being so vociferously anti Trump, anti MAGA
(58:58):
in a climate when that could be dangerous. And I
always say the same thing I said, because I think
we're done, and when people go back and read the
history books, I want it to be very clear that
as the ship was going down, Michael Riggilio was doing
this on the deck. That's two middle fingers that I'm
giving on the way down. That's all it is. I
don't think there's we can save the world. I'll try,
(59:20):
I'll never stop fighting, but if nothing else, as the
ship's going down, the last thing you'll see is me
doing the double bird. Fuck you people for what you
goddamn did to this once beautiful, beautiful country and on
her birthday.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
You know, I really do feel the same way. As
far as when you were kind enough to ask me
to co host this with you and even just be
on the first time, I was like, because even to
my stand up, I don't really do anything that political,
and my stand up I sort of just talk about
all my fucked up my family is and stuff, you know.
And I was like, do I really fully come out
of the closet as just a filthy, godless leftist and
(01:00:03):
really just put it all out there with my friend
Michael Virgilio, And I was like, what do I even
have to lose? Just like, what the fuck would it matter?
If anything? I feel better at the end of each
week because I've finally gotten this stuff off my chest
in some sort of public forum, been able to be
like this sucks.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Why is everyone so dumb? It really makes me feel
good to share that with you. Every week.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yeah, it has been cathartic and well, we'll see what happens.
I mean, I will keep everyone posted as to what's
going on with my comedy special. But I heard from
the producer and it has been sold. It's coming out,
so ill my political political views did not stand in
the way of me getting the special out, and everyone'll
(01:00:49):
be kept in the loop as to exactly when we
can all watch it and get our hands on it.
But yeah, so far, so good, and I assure you
that should I be so lucky is to get noticed
and get it out there. I will be fronting these
positions loud and proud. I am not gonna tailor anything
for any audience.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Beautiful, yep, I mean cats out of the bag, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, that'd be kind of silly if I tried to
put it back in now.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, we'd have to do a hell a lot of backstep.
Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
And yeah, if we wanted to appeal to a more centrist.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I just actually, you don't have to do any backstepping.
All you have to do is go I had the
liberal mind virus, but I'm cured.
Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Now you can go full tempole and be like, why
I left the left or Mark Rubin or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Oh my god, you get so famous overnight. All you
gotta do is, yeah, I was a liberal and I
saw that the liberals are the wrong ones and the
mag is the right ones.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
And yeah, and Jesus talked to me.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
And don't listen to any of those people that said
I've touched him.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
It seems to always be the theme when people do that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I've left, I've joined Jesus. And those people that say
I touched him are all liars. And you can listen
off the former leftists one by one and they all
fit the exact anyway. We won't name names. Russell Brand
and uh.
Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
Yeah, absolutely, Russell freaking Brad bad what hope we had
for him.
Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
He was such a thinker.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
He was like you, but yeah, he talked about consciousness
a little too much. But I still liked where he
was going. I liked his philosophy. And you know, he
just couldn't stop touching people's genitals. Man, you know what
he was just But it was.
Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
So disappointing that this guy who was such a deep thinker,
we all followed his career. We're like, hey, this guy's
onto something. He's really thinking about the big picture, and
finally he was like, I got it, Mite, I got it.
I've been thinking about it. I have the answer.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
We're like, what what what.
Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Jesus, Yeah, you gotta be You thought about it and
that's what you came up with, Jesus of the Bible.
Thanks Bro, appreciating putting in the effort.
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Only after being accused.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I know, only after tell you what. You can keep
thinking about it. I don't think it quite I don't
think you're quite there yet.
Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, a little laugh back, a.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Little more effort, all right, until we see you next.
Where can people find you between now and then?
Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Oh, you can find me at Clybird Comedy on them
just about everything. Can we come follow me on TikTok
a post clips seek from this beautiful podcast you can
see our lovely faces.
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Uh yeah, then that have a great week. I'll miss
you guys next week, and
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
We will miss you until then or war
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