#819 - Trump's Terrible 26th Week

The Late Show is no more, Trump steals FIFA trophy, New old Coke(not), Tucker Carlson and Jeffery Epstein.  More at dogmadebate.com

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
And welcome to what absolutely I'm not even messing with
you promises to be a phenomenal episode of Dogma Debate.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's the weekly round up, which means it could only
be one person. Well, I guess it give you two
people because Josh Edelman was my guest co host last
week because you were in Florida. But it's he's back.
It's Travis Klyburn.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
How we do I missed you? Vigilio. I'm sad I
happen to plan to visit my family, my wife's family
on the week where you know, Trump pretended death of
the Epstein shit didn't exist. I'm so sad that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh and yet university has given you another bite at
the apple because of the Epstein story not going away,
not even close. And of course we're going to be
talking about Epstein, but let's do a little a little
week in review before we get straight into Epstein. So

(01:30):
let's start with something that hits me near and dear
to my heart, which is my favorite thing in the world.
Late night monologues. I love them. It's I would love
to write them. I've written them for myself in the past.
I've done a lot of political shows where I do
political jokes. But my night routine is I watch Gobert,

(01:50):
just the opening monologue. Then I watch seth Meyer's closer
look than I watch Kimmel. That's that's, that's I can't
get enough of it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I didn't notice you read you read off the three
that I also watch and left out, you know, one
of them. I'm just saying, I don't want to throw
any shade. Fallon has the worst monologues I've ever seen
in my life. I just wanted to throw it up.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Uh, well, you know what he's.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
He doesn't.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's it's not that he has bad monologues necessarily, It's
just that he tries to play both sides a little
more than the other hosts. Who have definitely taken an
anti Trump side, and Trump jokes cracked me up. But Fallen,
I do watch Fallen two, and Fallen has gone pretty
all in on uh, you know, anti Trump as well.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
How do you not? Yeah, at this point, I mean,
what both sides are we even talking about? You know,
that's that's insane.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
But for a little while there, Fallen tried to if
you watched his monologues, he was still doing jokes about
you know whatever the news of the day that didn't
involve Trump. And here's some footage that came out of
a car wash in Indiana where a dog went through
the car wash and it's like, dude, the world is
falling apart the dog at the car washt But I

(03:12):
think Fallon has changed up anyway. So obviously no one
listening to this is going to be surprised by the
news that broke last night. It's quite quite the talk
of the town. But yeah, coincidences don't exist in my
opinion that Stephen Colbert has been canceled.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, not just Colbert, the entirety of Late Night The.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, the the franchise started by David Letterman with CBS.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
They are killing it. Entirely.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
They're killing it entirely. Now, why do I say Quince's
why do I say that's a coincidence or whatever? It's
as we know, Paramount, the parent company of CBS, wants
to merger with sky Nance I believe is the name
of the company.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's sky Dance c they like to do.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
What is Skydance you're right.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, yeah. The sky Dance CEO, by the way, David Ellison,
who is the son of the Oracle CEO, one of
the Oracle founders, I should say, Larry Elson. So you know,
just another tech brochek bro nepo baby coming in and
doing some shady stuff, honestly, right.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
So they want to merge, which requires FCC approval or
federal approval for this merger. And Donald Trump sued CBS
over a sixty minute story in which they edited a
Kamala Harris interview, which was the most run of the mill,
normal thing possible. And the only reason he knew that

(04:55):
he called it edited was because they played one clip
in the for the morning show, and then that night
when they played sixteen minutes, they didn't play the whole interview.
They never do. They played they left that clip out
but they played it. They gave that clip to the
Morning show. That's how they do it. They give certain
clips to other shows. And anyway, he sued them. Every
single lawyer on the planet Earth said, you will win

(05:18):
this case. CBS. He doesn't have a prairie, he doesn't
have a shot. Oh my god, this is the dumbest
case ever. It probably won't even make it to you know,
to to litigation like this is.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
There's an alchemy. And CBS gave.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Him sixteen million dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Anyway, interesting, that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's almost as if they were paying him off. Yeah,
for somebody to get this merger to go through, mm hmm,
which is a little Cooton esque. Yeah, because how happens
in Russia without the boss potent getting a taste And
maybe this is Trump wanting a little taste of that deal.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yes, and this seems so blatantly corrupt in my opinion,
pretty hot.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
But nobody gets under Trump's skin quite like Stephen Colbert.
How many times does he whatever truth about Colbert, the unfunny,
talentless Stephen Colbert, And then Colbert gets on TV and
laughs about how much Trump hates him, and then that
they want to go through they paid him sixteen million dollars.
What negotiations happened with Trump, We're not sure. But then

(06:25):
the number one rated late night show, the number one
show in that time slot, gets canceled, the show that
just so happens to get under Trump's skin. So why
don't we play the clip of both Steve and Colbert

(06:47):
A criticizing CBS for paying the sixteen million dollars, calling
it a bribe, and then announcing the show has been canceled.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yep, I mustache comes to you with a heavy heart
because while I was on vacation, parent corporation Paramount paid
Donald Trump a sixteen million dollar settlement over his sixty
minutes lawsuits. Now, I believe this kind of complicated financial
settlement with a city government official has a technical name
in legal circles.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It's Big Fat Bride three days late Down.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Before we start the show, I want to let you
know something that I found out just last night. Next
year will be our last season. The network will be
ending the Late Show in May.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Coincidence? Real? I mean, yeah, that's that's tough. And also
they what did they cite? They cited? It was a
purely financial decision, was the quote. I just can't see
how this is the biggest financial drain of CBS that

(07:53):
this show in particular, Well, how much money does it
cost to run a talk show? I mean, it's just
bringing people on and talking.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
There's also the flagship of the network, these these late
night shows. I mean, Steven Colbert is the face of
the network. It's the biggest thing. When you go to
New York, you line up at the what is it
the Ed Sullivan Theater theater, Yeah, and you go to
the Late Show and it's part of a tradition and
everybody that goes to New York wants to do it,
and CBS owns that. You know, it's like thirty Rock

(08:21):
and then there's the Ed Sullivan Theater. It's like this
this tradition, like they're walking away from more than just money.
It's it's about CBS and this show being part of
the American experience. Really.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, for what forty years now? Maybe longer?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, well, I mean it's about thirty since Letterman started
the Late Show, but late Night Talk obviously, you.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Know, yeah, very long? Is it around forever?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, here's where I find and this is I'm going
to get into my first prediction, and it's a crazy one.
But Donald Trump obviously celebrating this morning that Stephen Colbert talentless,
unfunny Stephen Colbert. Of course, we're going to get into

(09:20):
Epstein in a minute, but the Epstein thing out of control.
I think Stephen Colbert will outlast Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean, do you mean show wise?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think Stephen Colbert's last show, which is in May
of twenty twenty six, so a little less than a
year from now, Donald Trump will not be the sitting president.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Now, crazy, bold, bold, But I know why you're saying that,
and I know this.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Is a controversy that seems to be more powerful than
Donald Trump himself, the most powerful man in the world,
who at one time could mold his bass, his followers,
and even his party into following him down the worst,
most grotesque rabbit holes. Yes, they don't want to go

(10:16):
with him this time, but we're going to get into
that in a moment. But I wanted to put that
out there that because I love Stephen Colbert, and I
do and I'm not saying it's the funniest show in
the history of the world, but he is an American icon,
and CBS is foolish to let him go.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
In my opinion, yeah, I don't think they had a choice.
I think they want this federal murder to go through.
And I think especially this happened so quick, and I
think it was just a contingency that Trump himself more
than likely or maybe even you know, the CEO of
sky Dance said, you know, I would say more than likely.

(10:56):
Just Trump was like, I'll pave the way, no problem.
You just got to get rid of Colbert, which worries
me because the same acquisite, you know, the same paramount
sky Dance merger could put the Daily Show on the
chopping block as well.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I mean, I've never you know, Trump, he's a he's
a creature of habit, and he flips through the channels
late at night as he's going to bed, and for
whatever reason, he always lands on the Late Show with Colbert,
and it pisses him off. I've never actually seen him
mention the Daily Show. And in truth, it's not his
demographic right right, Like it's a show for younger people,

(11:34):
whereas he probably wouldn't enjoy it, where he probably enjoys
late night talk shows. He's from New York.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, what did he say that? It ruined Colbert ruined
a once great establishment. Yeah, meaning he was probably a
huge Letterman fan. Yeah, you know, he ruined it.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I mean, I don't think Letterman exactly has said anything
that would anything pro Trump, but yeah, he from New York.
I'm sure he loved Letterman. He used to watch these shows.
Daily Show. He probably never watched. It just didn't come
on his radar. And he can't help it. He lands
on Colbert every night and it just pisses him off,

(12:14):
and he got his way.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Truly. Yeah, I mean it's worst case scenario. It's really
really sad. But again, you might be right. I mean,
with everything going on, with what we're about to talk
about with old Epstein Island, it never existed, it never happened.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Who knows, Maybe CBS changes course and we get to
keep Stephen Colbert. We'll see, wouldn't that be nice? I
got my writer's packet through to Colbert twice, by the way,
oh nice. Yeah, even got return emails told they were
reviewing it and they didn't hire me. And even through

(12:56):
my sour grapes, even.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Though they didn't, I are you you're still a fan still?
I know?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
So here's here was just what I thought was a
nothing story and that I looked into it and it was.
It was hilarious where I fact checked myself and found
out I was wrong or possibly wrong. But did you
see Trump at FIFA this week?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh you mean when he was definitely supposed to get
off the stage refused to get off the stage. Yeah.
All the FIFA, all the soccer players were like or sorry.
Football players were furious he was still on the stage.
We're very confused. I think one of them even said,
you need to leave.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, I we we did this.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
We did it boys, we did it together. Like dude,
you don't even watch football, sash, soccer, whatever you want
to call it. But you know, there was celebration. There
was people applauding and accolades, had a big gold trophy.
Trump's not going anywhere. That's cracked to him. Gimmy, gimme, gimmey.

(14:07):
Which gets me to the story, which is that people
say he took a little metal that was handed to
him and put it in his pocket and he stole it.
No shit, did you see that sort Okay, so there's
that story like that reminds me of Putin Do you
not remember that Putin supposedly stole someone's Super Bowl ring.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that years ago, right.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Years ago. I like it, not Trump. So I look
it up and it says, no, that it's possible that
that was not him, that he was pocketing. Yes, he
pocketed the little metal they gave him, but that no,
that it he might not have been stealing it, that
that might have just been an exaggeration. I was like, oh, no, okay,
so I got that wrong. But then as I was
reading about it, it turns out President Trump has revealed

(14:53):
that the champions of the Club World Cup won't be
getting the original trophy because he's keeping it.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Wait, so he didn't steal a coin, but he stole
the trophy, the trophy. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
English Club Chelsea easily dispatched Francis Paris Saint Germain in
the final of the tournament in New Jersey's MetLife Stadium
on Sunday, Trump joining the players for the trophy lift,
much to their confusion. But it has since been revealed
that the intricate prize hoisted aloft by the London club's
captain was a replica because the president of the United

(15:32):
States took the original trophy.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
How did he take the trophy? The thing was huge,
wasn't it? Did he have his uh secret?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Just grab it? Twenty four carrot gold plated finish and
it is thought to have a value of around two
hundred and thirty thousand dollars and Donald Trump apparently said
I'm keeping it and they had to do a replica.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's unbelievable. He's like goldmember, he I love gold. He
just had to take it. He couldn't help himself.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I mean, I've never heard this guy mentioned football slash soccer,
I know, I mean, what is it?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
He likes you have SA fights, but which He's gonna
have one on the lawn of the White House allegedly.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, I heard that.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I don't know. I don't know if you've heard that.
That's gonna be fun. Yeah, No, President Camacho Mountain dew
oh Man, that's tough. Yeah, because uh well, he takes
credit for the World Cup coming to the US, right,

(16:38):
and he's been talking about that a lot, like.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Literally everything, which gets to our next story. Babe, you
saw this one. Donald Trump announced what could be refreshing
news to some many that I know, because people love
Mexican coke because it's got cane sugar, whereas American coke
uses corn syrup. Donald Trump truth quote, I have been

(17:06):
speaking to Coca Cola about using real cane sugar in
coke in the United States, and they have agreed to
do so. I'd like to thank all those in authority
at Coca Cola. So Donald Trump talked them into using
real cane sugar, except Coca Cola doesn't seem to agree.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Wait, so he announced this and Coca Cola has no
plans of actually doing this.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
As Yeah, CNN reached out to Coca Cola Company and
they said, in a statement, quote, we appreciate President Trump's
enthusiasm for our iconic Coca Cola brand. More details on
new innovations offerings within our Coca Cola product range will
be shared soon. In other words, no, no, we're not

(17:58):
switching to cane sugar.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Now. I'm desperately trying to find it because there was
I did see someone on TikTok who said, I mean,
if you want to go down the corruption rabbit hole, potentially,
even even with something that seems like this is some
sort of you know, RFK junior health thing that he
one of the neighbors of Epstein his and neighbors of Trump.
Fun fact, was also the CEO of a sugar company

(18:26):
who they I gotta find the name of this man.
They stopped importing his particular sugar because he was found
to be using actual slave labor in his sugar fields,
which none of you know can't do. That. That's bad.
And then apparently Trump is talking about or may have
already gotten rid of the bands on his particular sugar

(18:49):
coming into this country. So let me verify that before
I spread misinformation here, right, And.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I also saw an articles saying that the corn growers
of America were like, you're what.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, it's yeah, I know, and it's such a healthy
hell sorry health guru, bullshit conspiracy. It's it's literally just economics.
Why we use high fruitous corn syrups Because we live
in the land of corn. I grew up surrounded by corn.
We got to do something with all this fucking corn,
and so we turn it into sugar because it's cheaper,
and because we don't grow any sugar.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Here, and everything's got high fruitose corn syrup in it.
And I for one think it's delicious.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, I it's actually it's sweeter.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Fun fact, I'm not I'm not proud of this, Travis,
but I was dog sitting for a friend last week
and I got a sweet tooth at around two o'clock
in the morning and looking in there their cupboards for
something to eat. I can't mind. I haven't done this

(19:56):
since I was twelve years old. Was a can of frost.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Hell? Yeah, man, the fatty away from cancer.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Frosteak?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Was it? What flavor was it? Was it vanilla? Was
a birthday?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It was kind of it was I called buttermilk or
something like that. But it was two in the morning
and I had a big spoon and uh oh.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Baby, that is beautiful. Okay. So I'm looking for the
fun Jewel family from Fungul Corp. Significant sugar real estate conglomerate.
My god, these people do everything, which includes obsidiaries like
Domino Sugar, Florida Crystals, uh Sned Sugar, and American Sugar
Refining to the Fundel family, one of them. I did,

(20:45):
in fact live in Florida with with Trump. I can't
find anything verifying when I said about him using slave labor,
but he is best friends with the man that owns
a sugar company Wow, that is a fact. Uh, and
it would be would benefit his friend exponentially if they did,
in fact use his real cane of sugar. I mean,

(21:07):
this is like I've thought this whole week. I've been like,
it's like watching conspiracy theories written on U with crayon,
you know what I mean, Like they're not good, Like
it's it's it's it's more annoying to me that there
are steel people out there, despite the Epstein stuff, despite
all that, who are still right or dying for Trump
right now? Not a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, that actual jump into one of the stories that
I have here, which is that Trump's approval rating is
going up amongst Republicans. It's going down overall amongst Republicans,
it's as near as high as it's ever been, which
I will say, for a little bit of context, during
Bill Clinton's BJ scandal, his his approval rating amongst Democrats

(21:53):
went up as well. People do tend to circle the
wagons at a time like this, But you know what,
Bill Clinton may well be implicated with Epstein, to which
I say, lock him up, lock him up. I don't
give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
They keep bringing that up like it means anything, And
I'm like, if you were on the list in the plane,
I don't give a fuck who you are. Yeah, yeah,
for sure, I don't care. Like listen, I love I'm
a writer, die guy for Bernie. Bernie Sanders. I love
that man, all right, But if I found out he
was a kid diddler, I would I would no longer.

(22:29):
I would no longer support Bernie Sanders in any way,
shape or fun.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
We all know that that is the furthest thing possible, Jeffrey.
I heard that you have a beautiful island full of billionaires.
The ones was sent. I would like you to go that. Yeah,
I mean it's just it's no, yeah, none.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Bernie, if he ever is on a private jet like that,
he'd like be taking the ments. He's a very he's
a very very cheap dude. He's fucking hilarious. Man. Yeah,
there's no there's no way he's on that.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I start diving into Epstein a tiny bit. I've got
a conspiracy theory to throw at you, because I'm so
into conspiracy theories right now. My brain is working overtime,
and I admit that they're all hair brained and cuckoo.
This one smacked me the other night. I was like

(23:23):
wait a second. I decided that I found it very
strange that Tucker Carlson went so hard against Trump in
the last month or so, particular with the Iran bombing
thing attacking Ted Cruz. I was like, that's so out
of character for Tucker Carlson, just out of nowhere, suddenly
he's anti Trump and that he was willing to take

(23:45):
down Ted Cruz. And I was like, Tucker Carlson's good
friends with Dan Bongino, Cash Battel, Pam BONDI is it
possible somebody told him Trump's a fucking peedo get away

(24:08):
run for covers, completely made up? This is born and
raised in Michael Rigilio's frosting addled brain.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know, I don't know. I mean, I feel like
I feel like insiders on the know have known that
he's been a part of this for a while. Yeah,
I'm still honestly though, I understand where this the the
instinct is coming from, because I don't know what's going
on with Tucker Carlson. I do think he might be
trying to rally people himself to run because I think

(24:43):
he is the most effective and intelligent communicator that the
right has. It's why his show was at the most
popular when he was on air. But you know, but
again he and maybe he's just seeing the force of
the that what Trump is doing can't last. This stuff

(25:04):
has got to go away. And who will they need
to replace Trump? You know, they're gonna need a good
voice of the people, somebody who's been fighting for the
people the whole time. And maybe Tucker's going to make
a run for it. I don't know. Interesting, or he
found out that he's touching kids, I don't know. I

(25:25):
feel like he would always have known that though you.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Know, well, I mean, denial is a powerful thing, and yeah,
this idea that the deep state was out to get
Trump certainly took hold. It was a fever dream of theirs.
Obviously it's possible that he deluded himself. But I mean,

(25:49):
we're going to get into all this in a second.
But speaking of the delusional, why don't we go ahead,
Representative Lauren Bobert, because this is the whole thing is
it's the problem is not the Democrats. If you were
just the Democrats saying release the Epstein files and every
single MAGA person falling in line and saying Epstein hoax,

(26:09):
this wouldn't be a problem. They make problems, They make
the worst things about Donald Trump disappear by just not
talking about it anymore. They just refused, We're not going
to talk about it anymore. It's the Republicans pounding the drum, yep.
And so people we're talking about, well, how about the
idea of a special counsel, somebody that could look at

(26:30):
these files and report back to us, which was an idea.
You know, I guess Trump shut it down. Nobody's going
to look at these files, do you understand me? Nobody?
And we're going to get into the people that have
looked at the files in a moment. But Lauren Bobert
was floating the idea of a special counsel, and this
just blows my mind. Who she suggested? Would you play

(26:52):
that clip for me please?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
So Judicial Committee hearing, mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
That would be most likely they where a Juliane Maxwell
would testify.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Would you be in favor of that?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Absolutely?

Speaker 7 (27:04):
Yes, yes, of course we want answers. No one is
satisfied with what has been received or lack thereof. No
one is satisfied with the rollout of this. Of course,
we've heard that Dan Bongino is not satisfied with the
rollout of this either. And you know, I mean, I
think you hear time and time again, what an honorable
stand up man Dan Bongino is. President Trump. He obviously

(27:27):
thinks highly of Attorney General Pambondi. I don't know her personally,
but I know Dan and he's a wonderful man, and
I have no reason to doubt him. And I think
moving forward, we need a special counsel. That has got
to happen. There has to be a special investigation into
this if we aren't going to be provided information now.
There's a lot of things that Attorney General Pambondi is

(27:49):
doing well. Of course, President Trump is doing many things well.
The FBI is doing a great job. Our Department of
Homeland Security is you know, this mass deportation machine on steroids,
and now have the funding to go after it even more.
But this is something I hope it doesn't become a
false idol to Republicans where we just lose sight of

(28:09):
everything else. But that doesn't mean we don't want answers.
There are plenty of good things to focus on and
still more that we need to do uh to to
really get through the next four years and hopefully the
next eight years. Uh in a Republican majority of God
help us, God willing. And so this is certainly important

(28:31):
and I want answers, and maybe that takes that special
counsel to do. So maybe Matt Gates can lead the
special counsel.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Would you vote of that?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Absolutely?

Speaker 7 (28:41):
Yes, you know, Matt spoke highly of Pam Bondi and saying,
you know that she's the best attorney general that President
Trumps has had. But yeah, Matt Gates as a special counsel.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh mac god.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Gates.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Now see, okay, you're missing it. She's actually a genius.
You gotta use a pedophile to catch a pedophile, you
see what I mean. Oh, it's like it's like you're
getting a hand of elector.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
It's like how they the casinos hire the guys that
rip off casinos to ye, just watch the cameras because
they know what to look for.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Uh huh, this is huge brain and shit, she's due.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Wow, Grandma Bobert, she is a grandmother, by the way.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
I know, I I mean, you know that actually checks
out for where she's from. No fits to all those
people there.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
But now Mad Gates literally run out of the House
of representatives by Republicans. Yeah, he's ran him out of
town on a rail because of the fact that they
had overwhelming evidence that he was having sex with minors
or so they said, I mean Kevin McCarthy, that's the

(29:56):
hill he's going to die on.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, he was paying I'm also underaged prostitutes via Venmo
by the way, Yeah, which that's tough, man. That's the
same way you pay for an open mic or pay
your friend to watch your cat. Yeah, and you're using
it for underage prostitution. That's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
In fact, I think one of the notes and it's
been a while since I've gone down the Matt Gates hole,
Oh say, I believe he said in the notes section
for one of the payments, he said it was for
school supplies.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Oh Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, but I set you a clip of a Republican
talking about Matt Gates, and I thought it might just
in case you missed this one. This is what Matt
Gates was telling his colleagues.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah. Yeah, it's from about a year ago, which is
it's fantastic.

Speaker 8 (30:53):
You got a thing about this guy. This is a
guy that didn't have that the media didn't give a
time a day to after he was a who's a
sleeping with an underage girl? And there's a reason why
no one in the conference came defended him, because we
had all seen the videos he was showing on the
house floor that all of us had walked away, of
the girls that he had slept with. He'd brag about
how he would crush ed medicine and chase it with

(31:18):
with an energy drink so he could go all night.
This is obviously before he got married. And so when
that accusation came out, no one defended him, and then
no one on the media would give him a time
of the day. All of a sudden he found fame
because he opposed the Speaker of the House back in November,
and he's always stayed there and he's not he was
never going to leave until he got this last moment
of fame by saying by going after a motion to vacate.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Okay, by the way, that's tough man. Matt Caate's only
forty three years old, quite one of the youngest Republicans
or even Democrats for that matter.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, this was ten years ago, so I'm three years old.
This limb dick loser needed ed medicine and fucking red
Bull to go all night.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Listen, I've you know, I'm thirty five now, and I
got to say I don't need either of those to
go all night still, all right? I mean bad, I
got a bad knee, but that's about it, all right.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, I'm just saying, Matt Gates, you needed viagra and
red Bull to have sex with women at thirty three
years of age.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
That's tough.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
You might want to check your tea levels, bro, I
think that your rogo podcast might have some products for
you or something.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, how's your morning? Would when you get up? How
is it all right? If it's laying down? Your tea
levels are down? And everyone needs to know that, all right?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I mean, what a loser.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's tough. Okay. So showing videos, that's that's the part
that's fucking me up. To imagine that he's walking up
to these elderly men because all of them are elderly, yeah,
other than him basically, and he's got pictures and videos
and'd be like, look this, look at this, look this
fucking girl I was with last night, and just like
forcing them to watch it, and given his vibe, I
fully believe you did that he's such a rich kid

(33:12):
bro type. Those guys do that shit. Oh dude.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
People have done it to me, not realizing that I'm
a timid, little church mouse in deep inside. Like because
I'm on the comedy scene, I might say a rowdy,
raunchy thing. From time to time. I've played in rock bands.
I've had dudes walk up to me and show me, Dude,
I was with this girl last night. I'm like, dude,
I don't want to see.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
It, can't even Yeah, I can't even tell you how
little I want to see that. Yeah. I mean, I'm
no prude, but I've had people walk up to me
and start showing me other comics, especially yeah heinous things,
and I'm like, brother, please come on. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
My answer is always the same. I'm like, it's the
year twenty twenty five. If I wanted to see a
naked woman, I got it, Like, I don't know how
to access photographs of naked women. It's called the Internet
in every SIT's you know, The Symptoms did a joke
one time where they said, like, it's the number one

(34:08):
non porn site on the Internet, which takes it two
hundred thousandth overall or something like that.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's not hard to find.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
A picture of a naked girl. I don't need whatever
this person you were with last night, and guess what,
she doesn't want you're showing that to me either, So
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
That's exactly what I was going to say, that you
can consentually see women who are willingly putting naked this
on the internet, and then you, I don't know this girl.
What if I bump into her? That's weird. I don't
need that.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, I'm an old man. I don't know this person.
She didn't consent to this. Get your fucking iPhone out
of my fucking face. Thank you don't need to see it.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
So, speaking of naked women, Donald Trump quite the artist.
Uh so this is the story that is in my opinion,
I think that this is the moment where this thing's
cracking wide open. You gotta look at all the details.

(35:12):
It's a birthday card. The Wall Street Journal, owned by
Rupert Murdoch, has published a birthday card Donald Trump. And
actually I take that back. They didn't publish the birthday card.
They published the text from the birthday card and a
description of it. We've yet to see the actual birthday
card that Donald Trump sent to Jeffrey Epstein on the

(35:36):
event of his fiftieth birthday. Now, let's talk about a
few things real quick. A. This is the height of
Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking. His fiftieth birthday. He was he
was at full pedophile sex trafficker, full tilt at that point.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Peek.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns
Fox News, who has invested twenty years into promoting Donald Trump.
And we now know that they sent this story over
to the White House. Donald Trump said, I will sue
the fuck out of you if you print that. Caroline
Levitt said, he will sue the fuck out of you
if you fucking print that. And they printed it anyway

(36:21):
knowing that Donald Trump is going to sue them, which
means they know what they have is one hundred percent real. Yeah,
they wouldn't risk it. There's no chance they would risk it.
And this birthday card is part of the Epstein files,
which now we'll get into my frosting laden conspiracy brain again. Uh,

(36:46):
who sent it to the Wall Street Journal? So Wall
Street Journal is a conservative publication, so it stands to
reason that a conservative person with access to the Epstein files,
unless this person happened to have this lether bound book.
It's a jis Leine Maxwell compiled a leather bound book
of birthday cards for Jeffrey Epstein on his fiftieth birthday.

(37:08):
There's many birthday cards in there, including from Alan. I
kept my underwear on, Dershowitz, and I only mentioned that
in case you're unaware. Alan Derschwitz was Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer
and had to admit that he received massages well hanging

(37:30):
out with Jeffrey Epstein, but he claims it wasn't underage
girls and he kept his underwear on.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
The idea of Alan Derschwitz in his underwear.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Your god, Yeah, that's wait. Wait, would you get massages?
Don't you traditionally not keep your underwear on in general, right,
especially if your full body. So I've never went to
I've been in many massage places.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
She'd been to a few massage places in my day,
and I think I did probably keep by it or
worm or maybe a towel on or something like that.
Tow Yeah, I'm just saying I've only gone for massages
to deal with back problems, not for just the enjoyment
of it. So these are actually much more technical trained

(38:17):
messuse than so. I'm not sure, but that said so,
And I say that again because they reached out to
Alan Dershowitz and said, you know, apparently you had a
birthday card in this leather bound book as well as
did others, and Dershowitz didn't deny it. He said, I
don't remember what I wrote, but yeah, that makes sense.
So this book exists. His friends did send him all

(38:42):
birthday cards that Ms Maxwell compiled into a leather bound
book to present to Jeffrey on his fiftieth birthday, and
at that time, one year earlier, Donald Trump, in a
piece for I Believe New York Magazine on Jeffrey Epstein,
called him a terrific guy and said that he loves
beautiful women as much as I do, some of them

(39:05):
on the younger side.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, this tracks that Donald Trump would have sent him
a birthday card. In fact, it would have been weird
at that point when they were all hanging out. We've
got the footage of them hanging out looking at women,
many pictures of them hanging out together that Donald Trump
wouldn't have sent him a birthday card that would have
been super strange since Gislaine was had reached out to

(39:33):
all of his friends. Jeffrey Epstein, by the way, said
that Donald Trump was his best friend at that time.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, for a decade.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Very strange. I'm going to read you the actual text
of the birthday card, because it's not just a birthday card.
So around this text, somebody drew with a sharpie a

(40:02):
naked woman and then signed Donald Trump's name where the
pubic hare would be, and his signature does look a
little like pubic hair. Y.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
That's gross.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
That is gross. Donald Trump said it couldn't have been
him because he's never drawn a doodle in his life.
And then immediately people started showing he doodles all the time.
In fact, several of his doodles of like skylines and
other things have gone up for auction, but that he
is a world class doodler.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Whether what I was gonna say, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
But doodler for sure. But let's let's go ahead, Travis,
you and I, uh, let's examine the actual text of
the card because there might be a clue in there,
and it's a weird one. It's a weird one. So
Donald Trump did sign it in sharp B with his signature.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Again.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Wall Street Journal one hundred percent sure it's him. Yeah,
let's look at what was actually said, because it's very weird. Okay,
it says voiceover, So Donald's kind of writing a little
scene here.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
He loves movies. He wants to be famous.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
It's Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein having an imaginary conversation
in Donald Trump's mind. Voiceover. You know what, I took
an acting class last summer. I will I will play
the part of the voiceover. Voiceover. There must be more

(41:42):
to life than having everything. Donald, Yes, there is, but
I won't tell you what it is, Jeffrey, nor will
I since I also know what it is. Donald. We
have certain things in common, Jeffrey. Jeffrey, Yes, we do,

(42:07):
come to think of it, Donald enigmas never age. Have
you noticed that, Jeffrey. As a matter of fact, it
was clear to me the last time I saw you. Donald,
A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may

(42:29):
every day be another wonderful secret.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Ew Man, what the Fuck's that's so gross? Man? I mean,
even if I didn't know anything about these two guys,
and I saw this card and I read it, I'd
be like, I think those guys fuck kids together. I'd
be like, I think that's what.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
The fuck each other other?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (43:00):
Or the.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Weird bromance fifty year old dude shit, Like what the.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah, that's a very good point. This doesn't read more
like they're having sex with one another for sure.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Maybe that'll be Trump's excuse at the I didn't touch
I fucked him, I didn't touch any kids.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yet. I'm gay. I was gay the whole time.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
He'll never he would cop to pedophilia before he cops
to being.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
He was friends with old P did great friends, as
he said numerous times, partied with him often.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
So I want to examine it just a little bit.
I saw people talking about it this this morning, and
they thought they were like, oh, look at Donald Trump.
He's such an ego maniac that even in the middle
of an imaginary conversation he pays himself a compliment where
he says enigmas never age. Have you noticed that, Jeffrey.

(44:01):
As a matter of fact, it was clear to me
the last time I saw you, people are like, oh,
Donald Trump saying look at me. I never age and
Jeffreys saying back, yes, you never age, and I'm like,
he says, enigma's never age. Have you noticed that, to
which I was like, it makes me think of something
creepy dudes have been saying for years and years and years,

(44:23):
which is I keep getting older, but the women I
keep asleep with never age.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, they stay the same age whatever.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, something like that. Yeah, enigma's never aged. Is he saying,
you know, it's always fourteen year olds or something like.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
It's I don't know what that enigma's never age. There's
a high likelihood he doesn't know what that word means
and he uses it for something contextually we could never understand,
you know what I mean, Like he might think the
word enigma means something that it doesn't and will never
know what he thinks it means, but contextually it sounds

(45:02):
fucking terrifying.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Or they've got some little private joke between the two
of them about who's an enigma. I'm in an what's
the enigma?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Either way, it's a strange line, and it does deal
with age. When we're talking about one guy who's basically
been convicted of pedophilia, we know that he had a
sweetheart deal with the Age of Florida at the time,
alex Acosta, who gave Jeffrey Epstein, despite the fact that
he was trafficking in child say he was the head

(45:34):
of a child sex rank, received almost no time served.
He got i think thirteen months he served and six
days a week he was allowed to leave prison twelve
hours a day.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, he got the most weekend resort. Yeah.
He basically just had to go and sleep in prison
and then come back out and live his life high to.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Which, strangely, the Age of Florida that gave Jeffrey Epstein
that deal, Trump gave him a job in his administration,
almost as if he was rewarding him for a good job.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Thank you. Well never No, it's an enigma.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah. But so here's the part of the that everyone's
talking about. Happy birthday. May every day be another wonderful secret.
But I'll remind you Donald Trump with a sharpie allegedly
according to Donald Trump, but drew a naked woman around

(46:38):
this text. So the context seems to be sex with women.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah, uh, which definitely they definitely mainly did together. Oh,
especially so that it was kind of an open secret
that he was a sleeze ball anyway for him to
put another secret like his wife's all knew he cheated
on him. They didn't give a shit like it was there.

(47:05):
Every marriage he's ever had is bordering on a fraud
because it's just like a hot foreign woman he pays for,
you know, it's he's constantly cheated on him, constantly, constantly, constantly.
He was very well known for it. So that can't
be the secret he's talking about the consensual sex he
was having with other women.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, one would, and I will say that we unfortunately,
because doing a little digging you come across information that
turns your stomach. But Jeffrey Epstein once claimed that not
only did he I'm not sure that he said he
introduced Millenia and Donald, but Mlannia was there the whole time.
And I want to get into that in a second,
but I will say that Jeffrey Epstein said that the

(47:45):
first time Donald Trump, I'm gonna be crude here and
protect yourselves if you can't handle it. First time Donald
Trump fucked Milania was on Epstein's jet.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
It was a sticky plane. Oh that's right. Yeah, Oh god,
the things, the things that could.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Have happened on them before anyone should go on that jet.
They should give it the treatment they were giving gym
equipment during COVID.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, yeah, or.

Speaker 10 (48:14):
Whatever the most insane chemicals ever or whatever those backpack
things were that the Chinese government was using to disaffect
the strudents during the first COVID.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
There was just like dudes in all white suits, so
they're like a fogger of some kind. Yeah, that's what
they need for Jeffrey Epstein's play.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
So that said, though, I have been making a little
bit of a stink online about this all week, and
I won't stop that. There's two trumps in most of
those pictures with Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell. The other
one's name is Milania. Oh yeah, she was there for
all of this.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Which is I mean, she definitely had to have known
all the horrible things that are going on. I think
the only reason that they've kind of have a rift now.
I mean, I don't think she ever could really stomach
being with the guide to again with. But I think
the rift that's happening now is how much public shame

(49:13):
he's bringing when normally you know, now that he's in
the public eye, and how much hate she's probably getting
from her rich socialite friends for you know.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
If she has any I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Yeah, or maybe how but I the rift seem to
have already started to happen with the Stormy Daniels stuff
that seemed to be when they it truly separated the most.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yeah, when he cheated on her with a porn star,
lied about it and then totally turned out to be true.
Now he admits it's true, but it wasn't a crime.
He says that he paid her. I just the number
of lies this guy tells and then he gets found
out and the base doesn't care at all.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah, and you can't keep track of all of them.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
So, Dick Durbin, did you hear about this? This? Today?
Senator Dick Darwin, Democrat of Illinois, has sent a letter
he's the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has
sent a letter to Pam Bondy in which he says
that he has received information that Attorney General Pam Bondi
pressured about one thousand FBI personnel to comb through tens

(50:21):
of thousands of pages of documents related to convicted sex
offender Jeffrey Epstein. Did that say tens of thousands of
pages of a documents that don't exist. Interesting, that's a
lot of non existent documents, and flag any mention of
President Trump. Darby major explosive allegations in a letter he

(50:44):
sent Friday to Bondi, FBI Director Cash Pttel, and Deputy
Director Dan Bongino, seeking more information about the administration's handling
of files related to Epstein and asking why senior officials
were allegedly focused on looking for documents connecting to Epstein
setting information my office received, Durbin said. Bondi pressured the

(51:06):
FBI to put approximately one thousand personnel in its Information
Management Division on twenty four hour shifts to review about
one hundred thousand Epstein related records as part of a
broader effort to release documents publicly, with what Durbin called
an arbitrary short deadline. That is to say, she said,
I've got it on my desk. It's coming out.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
And he says that they were instructed to flag any
records in which President Trump was mentioned.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I mean, probably to get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I have guests course, but don't you think that's strange
that the FBI director that the ag would put a
thousand FBI agents on scrubbing or going through every document
to look for Donald Trump's name. I thought they were
just going to release the documents. Why weren't they looking

(52:00):
for victims' names to redact? They were looking for someone
else's name, Donald Trump's name. Uh huh for a guys, think.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
It?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Do you think they found his name so often and
so frequent frequently they finally had to go to him
because he obviously gave an order to have this happen,
you know, for all this to happen, that he was
they couldn't have released the files without condemning him, even
if they were going to redact or remove things, and
that he just said kill it all, like because like

(52:36):
they man, they're so bad at conspiracy theories, man, and
they're so bad at cover ups. They did you hear
about the metadata in the Epstein prison cell footage?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
That they really they did? But why don't you just
go ahead and fill us in? But yes, I don't
worry about it.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
So there's three seconds missing from it, No minutes, yeah, sorry,
minutes minutes which I don't know about you. I'd feel
like that's enough murder to you know. I mean, I'm
not saying that he got a hill. I'm not saying
he was murdered. I feel like in three minutes you
can get the job done. At least we could get
the job done with the right guys. Yeah, And I
mean it's a prison. There's plenty of guys in there

(53:12):
that can you know. And fifteen markers in the metadata, which,
by the way, I'm pretty sure if you're smart enough,
you can fix metadata.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
The fact that these isn't just interesting.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
They just released it, probably having maybe no knowledge of
the metadata.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I don't know. They're so incompetent. I'm not to say
it's not incompetence. Let me throw by Frosting laden conspiracy
brain at you one more time. Let's say you're in
the FBI and you're being told to cover up this scandal.
Call it that, and it goes against every ethical bone
in your body. And you know Pam Bondi and Cash

(53:56):
Betel and Dan Bongino are too stupid to look at
them made it what is it called metadata?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah? Metadata? Yeah? I mean, which is.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
The markers from the what is it Adobe Premiere?

Speaker 9 (54:06):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah? So the editing software they used, which was found
fifteen different points of clippiting. Yeah, so fifteen different times
where it was saved or cut or I mean makes
it so obvious. I mean anyone could, right.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
So let's say that you were told to make these cuts,
and you're smart enough to know somebody is going to
see that this was edited, and you give it to Pambondi,
you go there, it is, put it out.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yes. And also if you're the one making the cuts,
you know what the fuck actually happened. I mean, if
you're the one who sped up the footage, which is
what they did so they could release it without you know,
seeming too altered. They sped it up so that it
would just flash back real quick and they wouldn't be
able to tell what chunks were missing out of it.
So you've sped it up, which means you had to

(54:54):
watch the whole thing, which means you had to edit
those parts out, so you know what actually happened. And
that's that's such an obvious conspiracy. And also the fact
that they with the moment I saw Dan Bongino with
his veins bursting out of his forehead, that big bald forehead.
See Epstein definitely killed himself. I was like, I've never

(55:15):
seen a man lie worse in my life. I've never
seen a picker liar, and he's just like red faced,
and he's just caving. He's caving to the system that
he swore he would he would overthrow the deep state.
He got deep stated.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Well, maybe next time you take on the deep state,
you shouldn't use such shallow people. One way, you might say,
but that said, uh.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
So just for the record, because I can't help myself,
I for you, the listeners of this podcast have been
going and listening to Alex Jones on Info Wars for
the last several days.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah, and at first he was disgusting and.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
He was gonna pube. Yeah, but he's fallen in line.
Alex Jones, who can find a conspiracy everywhere, doesn't see
one here. His new line is that Trump is as
he's using the Epstein files, Trump's not in the Epstein files.

(56:27):
Of none of my none of my research would indicate
that Trump's in the Epstein file. Really, because my research,
and I'm hardly as good at researching as Alex Jones,
indicates that they were best friends and they were definitely
hanging out and womanizing together. But none of his research
indicates that Trump is in the Epstein files. But do

(56:50):
you know this? Do you know his his excuse?

Speaker 1 (56:53):
No last thing I saw with Max Jones is him
crying or trying to cry. Uh. And it was tough.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
It's tough, Okay, So I saw it. He was trying
to cry and saying he was gonna puke, and he
said his mouth is watering. Whose mouth waters when they're
gonna puke?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
He's like, I'm about to puke.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
My mouth is watering.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Are you going a taste of puke? It wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Fucking disgusting, vulgar, fucking toad. I fucking hate that piece
of shit to hell. The new line is that Trump
is using the epseeed the Epstein files. Who's in the
Epstein files is the deep State? And Trump is using
the Epstein files to blackmail the deep State into surrendering

(57:36):
so that we can finally win the war against the
deep State. And you can't release them because if you're
blackmailing them, that that power goes away when you release it,
So they can't come out because Trump is using it
to blackmail the deep state into surrendering. Question Yes, Alex

(57:57):
Michael Riggilio dogm debate, I have a question, wentn't releasing
the files and then arresting all the members of the
deep state also get them to surrender if they were
all in federal prison.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
The thing is shut up, you fat fucking o Zempic
taking fucking piece of dog fucking shit. The only fight
I've been in, the only time I've gotten fucking physical
in the last fucking thirty years of my life was
a bar in fucking New York City where some fucking
idiot started telling me that fucking Sandy Hook was a

(58:32):
fucking hoax because he heard it on your fucking show.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
And even as a middle aged fucking man, I had
a few vodkas in me. I was like, okay, right
here now, Bart, two o'clock in the afternoon in Manhattan.
Bart was like no, no, no, no. And then it turned
out the guy worked at the bar. They're like, deep, oh, God,

(58:56):
get back to the fucking kitchen. I'm like, you work here.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
And you're just coming out to fight people over Sandy Hook.
What the fuck.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
He gets Sandy Hook fucking wrong involved children? Now the
fucking pedophile fucking ring He's got, like, what good are
you do? Fuck you out? Sorry, I'm gonna go nuts
if I talk about Alex jokes.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
But yeah, I don't blieme you. It's tough. The fact
that he still somehow has a show at all, Uh,
it's unbelievable. Or that anyone actually watches him other than
to kind of hate watch him, It's pretty unbelievable because
I mean, right now Trump is losing a lot of people.
There's some diehards out there who can't hang in for it.

(59:42):
You know who I think are pulling away from him.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah. I made a video I sent it to you
today that I thought was very clever, but unfortunately for me,
the Internet disagreed. Or actually, I take that back. I
take that back because if you look at TikTok and whatever.
But the video was the last scene of The Usual Suspects, Yeah,

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where he's putting together the pieces that he's been duped
by what's his name verbal? Yeah, anyway, And instead of
all the dialogue from the film, I have the dialogue
of Donald Trump saying creepy things over the years, and
I'm showing instead of him seeing flashbacks of pictures, it's
of Trump, and it's everyone in Maga right now figuring out,

(01:00:28):
oh shit, I've been duped it was Trump all along,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Uh, And I did have a couple people right to
me and they're like, that's me, dude, Like you just
described me perfectly. Like so there are people that are there.
I was on board until this, and now I'm putting
together the pieces and I'm seeing it. So it is
a thing where you can see where people are falling away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yeah, oh my use My dad's a liitnus test usually
for middle American conservative mind and older people, and even
mind Dan thinks it's just again. I was in Florida
then Ohio last week, and even he's like this is ridiculous,
Like this can't be, Like he can't expect us to
believe there's no Epstein files. But that's what he's done
with everything so far. He just says it's not a thing,

(01:01:12):
and then enough time passes and people forget about it.
But I think this is too important because even Trump
people and conservatives, the reason they that this hits so
close to home for so many people is because this
is like an issue of class warfare. I mean, it
was the rich in their mind, the liberal elites, because
for some reason, they all think that Epstein was some

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sort of you know democrat pedophile ring and every single
person went to his island as a Democrat. But it's
because it is class warfare. It's billionaires stealing the children
of from poor and working class communities and taking advantage
of them. So that's why this will never go away.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Right, And that is certainly part of it. But I'll
let me remind you that every other thing he says
is fake news is something we're just learning about. Wall
Street Journal or New York Times reporting tonight that Donald
Trump to know that fake news, and they all go, oh,
he said fake news. It's fake news. This has been
around for ten years. Oh, he never ran on fake
news before. In fact, he said real news, and his

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son said real news, and Charlie Kirk said real news,
and Joe Rogan said real news, and everybody was running
on it. And when Trump gets elected. In fact, JD
Vance have you seen that clip? I wish I'd grabbed it.
But JD Vance on THEO Vaughan's show saying Epstein list
has to come out, all of them Epstein list. Donald
Trump had given a million opportunities over the last ten

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years to say, oh, by the way, it's all fake.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Yeah, but no, he ran on it being I mean
that's what all of QAnon was based off of the
Epstein list, essentially the birth of Yeah, absolutely that all
the Democrats are pedophiles. You know, they threw Tom are
the liberal elites.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
It's the list is on my desk. Did Donald Trump
come out and go, hey, by the way, that list
is fake?

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
No, Pambon.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
He brought all these conservative influencers to her office and
gave them binders saying Epstein List Phase one, indicating phase
two was coming. Did Donald Trump come out and go, hey,
what are you doing? It's all fake? No?

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah, it's not until.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Yeah, it's not until Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdock.
We know that they were working on this story for
a while and they went to weeks ago with this
said hey, we got this card. It looks bad. All
this stuff. Not until it's about to boil over that
suddenly Pam Bondi goes and by the way, I say,
Pam Bondy, but did you know that memo that came

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out that said Epstein file, there is no client list,
and the case is closed, goodbye unsigned.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Wow, So she wouldn't know her name on it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
No one wanted to put their name on it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
That is tough. I mean, it's career suicide. At this point,
they got to know that this guy's killing their their future.
Like if this blows up in Trump's face, which it
inevitably will, this is the only thing I've ever thought
could actually bring him down, even to his loyal supporters.
And I mean, if they're signed up for it, then
they have no political future again, you know, which I

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hope that no one in this administration has a political
future after all this bullshit. But they might be trying
to save themselves. That's stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I mean, I'll just point out that Dick Durbin's letter
covered all this stuff and more, and this just went
out today. It wasn't just about the thousand FBI agents.
But he also says the July seventh unsigned memo that
says Epstein died by sue Aside was supported by quote
fully raw video footage, to which he says not fully raw. Yeah,

(01:04:53):
unsigned memo comes out saying case close, no, Epstein list
fully raw video shows he didn't kill himself fully raw,
in fact, very edited. Like the whole thing stinks too
high fucking hell. And this I would go so far

(01:05:13):
as to say from some people. And I did have
one Trump lover in my life say to me, and
this person is beyond our reach, said to me, they
think that everything that's they of course there is an
Epstein list, which to which it's like, so you know
they lied to you. Yeah, okay, fine, they lied to me.

(01:05:34):
But they said that's just because everything in it that
it says about the Democrats is true, but everything in
it that it says about Trump is fake. And that's
why it can't come out because they put so much
fake stuff in it about that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Comes on, that's so badshit.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
But I mean, they've all lost their minds. Did you
see I wish I grabbed this clip now too, because
I'm just thinking of it now. But did you see
O'Reilly debating this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Oh yeah, when he was talking about his arrest. The
Biden administration, yeah, was overseeing all this. And they're like, no,
he died in twenty nineteen when Trump was president. Yeah,
and because they tried to He's like poor, I mean,
poor Bill O'Reilly's getting up there in age, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Yeah, But you know, any one of these anchors has
an earpiece with a producer in their ear even on
whatever fly by Night cheap Ass Network Bill O'Reilly's on. Now,
I'm sure that's still the case because you see him
pause and you can hear him clearly listening, and he goes, okay,
I stand corrected, Like, but dude, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Yeah, yeah, you were.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
You once tout at yourself as one of the greatest
journalists of all time. How did you not know that?

Speaker 9 (01:06:49):
What fucking bubble do you people live in where you
believed that this all happened under Biden or under a bomb?
It all happened under Trump?

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Yeah, yeah, every single bit of it. I mean the end,
the you know, him being held, the arrest, everything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
And this has been reported. I'll add this to the
pile of information. Michael Wolfe, who was Jeffrey Epstein's biographer,
never got as far as to write a book because
he killed himself, but he does have howers of interviews
with Epstein, and he's also one of Trump's biographers. Two

(01:07:33):
pieces of information. Number one, he now says that he
has insider information that in twenty nineteen or possibly twenty twenty,
at the time of Giselene Maxwell's arrest, Donald Trump was
openly talking to advisers about pardoning her, saying what is
she going to say about me?

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Jesus Christ?

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
And number two, he says that Jeffrey Epstein showed him
a picture of Donald Trump surrounded by topless girls whose
ages were.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Not known but on the line questionable.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Pointing at him and laughing that he had a stain
on his pants.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
M did he did he spill some soup on his
pants for Julio? Do you think that's what the stands from.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I mean, I don't want to get graphic. I'm just
saying this thing's fall to the wheels are coming off, Yeah,
which is why I said at the top of this show,
I think President Vance will pardon Trump after he claims

(01:08:41):
a malady of some sort of health thing. To retire,
Vance says he's pardoned, and then Vance says Epstein list
never comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Yes, I'm seeing because especially you're talking about this is
the first time they ever admitted Trump has a health problem,
which is unfucking believable, which means they also picked a
health issue that I think is horseshit personally. So, uh,
what is a chronic venous insufficiency? Yea or venus insufficiency which.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Ve or the blood in his legs is having trouble
getting pumped back up to his heart right, which he
gets the cankles.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Right, which of all the conditions that would lead to cankeles,
because it was so undeniable this weekend, the picture they're
saying that the White House in this article from NBC
said with the condition that causes blood to pull in
the legs after he was examined for mild swelling in
his lower legs at mild swelling, my ass, by the
way it looked, I can't even believe he had shoes on. Yeah,

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his ankles were like four times their normal size, which,
by the way, is indicative of heart failure, something that
wouldn't be shocking that eighty year or seventy nine year
old man would have at his weight and living his lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
He still talks about how much he loves McDonald's. I mean,
seventy nine, you can't do nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
And also his only exercise is golfing, and he that's
not exercise. He rides around on a golf cart. Yeah,
walks up and he smacks the ball and then they
guide him over.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
You know, I think he was on z epic as well,
because he did lose some weight between you know, his heaviest,
you know, three years ago or two years ago when
he was just living at the twenty four hour omelet
bar they have at mar A Lago.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Yeah, and golfing. I don't know that could be. I
mean a sign of rapidly deteriorating health, physical health at least,
because like one of the biggest heart disease. You know,
you've ballooned up, which causes your heart disease. But if
it gets bad enough you're a weight does dramatically start
to come down because your body has more and more

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trouble absorbed, absorbing nutrients and spreading blood throughout your body.
Usually that's why old people usually wither away more before
they pass it pass away. I'm not saying that's what's
happening here. Maybe they are. Actually I just found it
so crazy. They actually said admitted he had a health
condition because last time we heard last time by last

(01:11:20):
time was his five months ago. They were like, he's
six foot.

Speaker 11 (01:11:23):
Three, five percent body fat gets rock hard, if if
a breeze blows, he's got no problems, and then all
of a sudden, you know he's got.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
And he's looking feeble.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Well, I think he's on a pretty aggresive blood thinners.
That's why they had the makeup on his hand, which,
by the way, they got to hire a better makeup artist,
man Jesus Christ. His face, the hand, they can't even
blend the edges and it's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
I look at Yeah, there's only so much you can do.
I'm sure he had halfway decent makeup artists as well.
But I'll never forget that footage of Biden watching like
a band play on the White House lawn. I don't know, yeah,
I mean, it's just my ghost, a zombie like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Yeah, there was the white lighting was tough. Yeah, he
looked he looked, oh bad man. And then what's worse
is that the next couple of weeks they put bronze
aer on his ass and it was way worse, like
they tried to. That was that week where they tried
to put bronzer on him and they were like, look,
he's lively and it was dark times anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
So there's my prediction. My prediction is Donald Trump is cooked.
I've said it before, I actually have, yeah, but this
time feels different. Donald Trump was cooked before because the
evidence was overwhelming, but the bass stuck with him. Yeah,
bass is falling away, possibly falling away fast. I didn't

(01:12:59):
cite that to see an end poll that said he's
more popular Republicans than ever, but that was actually two
days ago.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Things are moving, it get worse, it's I mean, yeah,
things are moving a lot faster than I anticipated they would,
especially I just think that people can't get over this one.
It's such an obvious lie. And every time he's asked
about it, he's he's he's doing that same, you know,
narcissist thing where he's like, it's not a story, it's
all fake. And then every word he says is he

(01:13:28):
counterdicts himself from the past. He counterdicts everything, contradicts everything
that his administration has said previously. So and again, this
is the most important issue for these these most these
guys are conspiracy heads, like Epstein was their favorite thing
and now it doesn't exist, Like they can't. There's no
way they're going to be able to wrap their heads

(01:13:48):
around this shit. There's just no way. Yeah, or forgive
this or let this go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Yeah, they believed more in the deep state and these
pedophile cabals and secret societies of pedophiles drinking children's blood
and running the world. They believed in that more than
they believed in Trump, more than they believed in Maga,
more than they believed in making America great again. They believed.
I mean, I've heard dudes say it like literally, like

(01:14:18):
this is my life. I will fight you pedophiles and
the pedophiles and you fucking liberal pedophiles, and that is
I will die on this hill.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
They are convinced of this, and you can't just tell
them they were crazy. It was never there. Are you
still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? I mean, that was it.
That was the moment that he lost them. I mean,
he said shit since where he called them stupid and weaklings.

(01:14:52):
They didn't like that. But what really fucking set them
off was when he said, are you asking about Jeffre?
Are people still talking about this guy? They were like,
what the actual fuck, dude, Yeah, we're still talking about
this guy. We've never stopped talking about this guy. I

(01:15:12):
voted for you on one issue, and it wasn't deporting Mexicans.
It was that goddamn list coming out. I lost family members,
My children won't talk to me, I got fired from
my fucking job. They don't let me in certain bars anymore.
Because I fucking talked about that list so much. Yeah, yeah,
I fucked my life up because I wanted to see

(01:15:35):
that list come out. And you're gonna say, are we
still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? I thought we were all
still talking about Jeffrey Epstein. Since when are you not
talking about Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
It was like a switch flip too. It happens so
fucking fast, and they just can't There's no way they're
going to accept that. It seems like such bullshit. And
I'm just glad I'm some of them, at least a
good percentage of them, or seeing that and turning on him,
because I know, at least Charlie Kirk in particular, who's
got a much younger generation of followers. Now for gen
Z loves Charlie Kirk for some horrible fucking reason, even

(01:16:11):
his comments, because he's he's he's a pair play guy,
you know, he's he tows the company line. He's trying
to turn her everything around on the Epstein thing. And
his comments on YouTube are fucked up with people, kids, millennials,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah, freaking out on him. There was reporting that Donald
Trump personally called Charlie Kirk and said, stop talking about this.
Get people to stop talking about this, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Charlie Kirk's pool with young people for some god awful
reason that I will never understand, is huge and so
and young people lead the charge on most things.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
But I will say that I did retweet Charlie Kirk
for the first time ever this week. It was an
old tweet eight ten nineteen. But he as me too,
and I obliged him. On eight ten nineteen, he said,
retweet if you believe at real Donald Trump should order
a full investigation into Epstein's illegal sexual trafficking from the

(01:17:11):
last thirty years and get answers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
I was like, yeah, I do believe that. I couldn't.
I couldn't con the retreat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
In the bag, buddy, you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
This is so funny to me because you're right, man,
they ran on this so aggressively, and to go into
the past, not that long ago and see everything they've
said about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Yeah, Don Junior could oh yeah, Don Junior said he
wanted the release of the Epstein list.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Yeah. Could you know Trump never took his kids to
that island. He used that as an excuse to get
away from them, you know, what I mean. I don't
think any of the any of the Trump kids would
be on the list.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
No, he doesn't hang out with his kids. He wants
nothing to do with them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Absolutely, I'm scrolling because I did retweet Donald Trump Junior
as well. But I gotta be honest with you, the
number of times something comes into my head that I
have to post on social media during this uh controversy. Yeah,
it's upwards of thirty a day, so going back four days,

(01:18:25):
my hands happened straight to scroll back that far. But
I know somewhere in there I did retweet Donald Trump
Junior who said something like along the lines of release
the Epstein list.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Yeah, get those filthy Hollywood blood drinking pedophiles off the streets.
I'll wait. Never mind that never happened. Never happened. It's
a big old JK.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
We haven't had a prediction in a while. Oh, I
can't do next week. You're running next week. I don't
think I can do next week. I'm having surgery. What
what do you have in s treoon. I'm an old man.
I'm having a cataract.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Getting an eye, getting the catteract removed. You've got super
old man vision at the moment. It's tough. Yeah, you're tough,
and you already have You were telling me this before.
You already have one bad eye, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Yeah, d blind in my right eye.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
But there is it true they want to fix that
one as well, potentially later.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
I mean, I have never heard this, that it was fixable,
that it could be done. But I had to go
to a specialist who's going to perform the cataract surgery.
And he was like, Okay, we're going to do this.
It should be okay, no problems. And he goes, now,
let's talk about that other eye. It's like, let's fix it.
I was like, wait, I've been to specialists my entire life.

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No one's ever said they could fix it. He's like,
I think I can fix it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
That's amazing. You're going to come out of this with
two good eyeballs, man, And.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
I haven't ever had two good eyeballs. I've been Monoco
Taylor my whole life.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Damn, you're you're gonna have better depth perception. You're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Maybe the world is much uglier than I imagined did Maybe
I'm much uglier than I imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
That would be a tough realization. You look at the
mirror to go, ah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Fuck, we call the doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Could you we go back? Can we actually can funk
these back up?

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Fuck him up. I don't like what I'm seeing. What
I've aged terribly.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Now you aged great. I'm shocked every time I remember
how old you are.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Oh man, Well, uh so I would make a prediction
for next week, but I won't be here. You will
uh uh have a great show.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Thank you, thank you. I'm not sure the guests will
be because I don't want to be I don't want
to be all alone. Might get might even get my
wife on here, you know, comedian Katie Clyburn her on here,
get a female perspective on all these horrible things are happening,
you know, see what's going on. But I think my
prediction for next week I don't think Epstein's going away.

(01:21:15):
I just don't think I should. I don't even know
what my prediction is. I feel like there Wall Street
Journal is going to show us the birthday card. They've
definitely got a picture. Maybe we find out who leaked it.
Maybe we get a little taste, because you know, there's
leakers everywhere. As Trump once said, yeah, the leakers. Leakers
are going to lead.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Russian prostitutes leaking all over him. But that said, uh yeah,
I think the leakers probably a name we're familiar with,
possibly Dan Bongino. Like he gets in there, he's a
true believer, he sees the evidence because, like I said,
Wall Street Journal, that's a conservative paper. They didn't reach

(01:21:56):
out to the liberal paper. They reached out to a
conservative paper owned by Rupert Murdoch. That tells me this
is somebody who's friendly with the conservatives and this leak,
as near as I can tell, again, unless somebody had
access to this book that was seized by the FBI
some years ago before that, right, somebody in the FBI

(01:22:20):
who leaked this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Dan Bongino has been recently saying that all of this
has ruined his reputation, which I think Jane Denjel. Bongino
is obviously a moron, but I think he believed his
own bullshit. I never thought of Dan Bongino as a
charlotte and just a bit of an idiot, and he's
always aggressive and in the wrong direction. So I think

(01:22:42):
him realizing that, you know, I'm on the wrong team.
Yeah for the bad guy, Yes, because.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
It does, and it's just the flood gates are opening.
Get ready, it's just gonna get worse. I don't think
Trump will be last week. I don't know when that'll be.
I do predict on a Trump will not finish this
term as president. That will be President Matce before he's done.
I don't know how he survives this. But next week,
let's just say the floodgates a wide open, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
And I'm gonna keep my eye on the right wing
manosphere type the things that are really pushing in the
direction of the spin, because they are really in charge
of the spin. I feel like the people on these
Charlie Kirk type shows timpoole figure out the angle for
everyone else because they're on air all the time. They're
constantly talking, and then you'll watch an angle run away.

(01:23:33):
So I'm wondering what angle they're going to try to
spin next week or start spinning next week. That'll be
curious me too, because they're trying. They're trying everything and
it's not working.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Next time I see you, I will literally see you,
I hope unless they bought more surgery.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Well, it's so excited for you to actually see me again.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Yeah, it's gonna make things a lot easier. Until then,
where can people find you, Travis?

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
You can find me at Clyburn Comedy, on the TikTok
and the Instagram's follow Me, be my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
I know I do. Until then, A good day, sir

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
You did to you