#822 - Trump's Terrible 27th Week

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Welcome everybody to the weekly roundup. I'm your host, Travis Clyburn.
I'm running the ship. I'm steering the ship this week,
and so to help me steer the ship, I've brought
in a couple of guests. You know, I got a
benefit of an ADHD brain.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I need people to help me, and the personally helps
me the most is my lovely wife, Katie Clyburn.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hello, Hello, say hello to everybody. Hi, Everybaddy.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I also have another special guest, an unexpected guest. We
actually have the Great Michael over Jilio. What are you
doing here?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
What? How did that happen? I thought I was taking
the week off for cataract surgery. Yeah, what happened? I
went in for surgery this morning. They put me in
the gown, they prepped me. They actually had to draw
all over my face around my eye for some reason,
and then I laid there for about three and a
half hours till a nurse came and told me that
there were complications in the surgery that was going on

(01:25):
before mine with the surgeon that was going to perform mine,
and that it was not going to happen today, that
they needed the rest of the afternoon to put this
person's eyeball back in. Apparently they dropped out on the
floor or something. I'm not sure how.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
That's horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Oh my god, I'm hoping they must have drawn on
your face so they don't, you know, take out the
wrong eyeball.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, point at it. This one is blind, This one
works kind of good.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, in my case, this one's blind. This one's also blind,
but it doesn't have a cataract, so.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Don't cut it open. So do you have any idea
when you'll be back, when we'll reschedule you.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
I do not.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
They said they will contact me presently and we'll get
that sorted out and they'll make me the priority. I
was telling a friend that, and he's like, if the
surgeon's been in surgery all morning and all afternoon, He's like,
you don't want a sleepy surgeon.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Cutting Now he dropped somebody else's eyeball.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
What could he have done next?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I might have made that part up, I said, I
don't know what they did.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
No, I'm keeping that that you told me that.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I'm now considering that undeniable truth as exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
The weirdest part is that the operation room cat grabbed it.
I don't know why they would let a cat in.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It seems unsanitary, but it's actually good from around.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, good luck, Yeah, very good luck. And what a
week though. I'm glad i'm here. I'm glad i'm here.
I'm glad I'm still blind, and because I could to
discuss the week with you, wonderful kids, Katie. Great to
have you. But I'm no stories because I was getting
ready for surgery. So Travis did all the hard work.

(03:05):
So he's sitting in the captain's chair.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
All right, since I'm steering the ship today, we're going
to take everyone to Epstein Island.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I don't want to go there.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, it's not a great place. I've heard it's for sale.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I've been there myself, and I will tell you I
have sex with all those women. Well women is I
haven't pulled out my billy c in a while.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I felt that was really good.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
That was sor he will come up in this journey,
I assure you. But what happened to the literally, because yeah, no,
he's too old for that. Probably my dad give him
a stroke usually all of his heart surgeries he's had.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I'm talking about him giving himself a stroke. Anyway, stop stopping.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Hey, Well, we started this week with distraction because like
Epsteine didn't go away, you know what I mean? He
was Obviously this isn't going to go away. His base
won't let it go. No one will let it go.
So what did we start with. Let's let's play a
clip here. How can we distract people? Let's do something crazy.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
Here we go, that's right, lindsay.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
President Trump says he won't make a deal for the
football team stadium to be built if they don't change
their name back to the Washington Redskins, calling the name
change ridiculous. The team dropped the name Redskins in twenty
twenty after decades of criticism from Native American groups who
called it racist and derogatory.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Lindsay Selena, thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I mean, you know what does their base love? What
do they love slurs?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, this is the same thing is we're stripping the
ship of the name Harvey Milk, We're changing the base
back to Robert E. Lee, We're going back to Redskins.
And I know where we're going with this. The mass
distraction of them all the biggie and I'm arresting the
black guy at the basis.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, Oh yeah, well the list, Yeah, I forget
the MSTE list. Well, so I thought that this was amazing,
And I have one more clip I wanted to play,
just because Carolyn Levitt is just so proficient at tongueing
old man. Her husband included and this clip where they
bring up the change to the Redskins because people are like,

(05:32):
is this really a thing that we have to do?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
And she President serious or was he joking?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Is beginning he might plow a Washington commander's stadium deal if.

Speaker 8 (05:42):
They don't be The President was serious, and it's part
of the art of the deal, part of his negotiating skills.
As you know, sports is one of the many passions
of this president. And he wants to see the name
of that team changed.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Why is he getting your lines in them?

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Why does he see that look part of his profe.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
I think you've seen the President gets involved in a
lot of things that most presidents have not. He's a
non traditional president. He likes to see results on behalf
of the American people. And if you actually pull this
issue with sports fans across the country and even in
this city, people actually do support the president's position on this.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
In the name change.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
God, she's so wet for him. It is gross. I
hate it. I hate how horny she looks when she
talks about him.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
She's just it grosses me out, man.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I do you're right? Yeah, yeah, it is a weird uh.
I mean they an'll call him daddy, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh my god, that's so true. But at the same time,
it's like just he's he's broadcasting on all frequencies. My
base is racist. This is what they like.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah, they like being racist. It makes them happy.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
People of the city agree, racism good. Slur's good. What's
the name football? It's renamed the football team back after him.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
But I have a question for you, Travis, because you
alluded to it and it's something I don't really know,
you said, including her husband is an old man. Yes,
I don't know anything about her husband.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Oh he is cripkeeper. Let's let's fine, let.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Me pull him up. I don't want to spread any misinformation,
but I do know her husband is uh Nicholas uh Rico,
ri I c s Ricchio. I assume Riccio. He's thirty
two years old, her senior, making him fifteen.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Thirty two years her senior. Yeah, yeah, I thought you
were going to say she's thirty two, and I know
she's like twenty six. I was like, you know, it's
a little old, but thirty.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
She is twenty six. He is fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, it is twenty seven. Oh oh seven? Yeah, well, yeah,
she looks like she couldn't be any younger than you know,
thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
But I guess of all the uh.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Dude, yeah, I thought she was our like our age.
That's crazy that she's.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Like, well, has an effect on your face, your voice,
as you know, it does. It's why we've.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Talked about this many times, Katie, that it seems like
everyone who is evil in the Trump administration.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Has some sort of embaniment to the.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Busy sounds like al Patine.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, it just turns call.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
It the Palpatine effect.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I will say from my my research shows that that
didn't actually do much to throw them off the old
Epstein scent.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Now, oh no, it didn't work well.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
No, so they even came out, so they this was
at the beginning of the week. You know, this is
maybe five days ago. There's like a this is a
Monday thing, you know, You're like, you know, let's give
it a let's try this. And then Mike Johnson does
he does best. He comes out I believe this is Tuesday,
and he gives a reason why they're not going to
release the Epstein list.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Try number, President or anyone.

Speaker 9 (09:01):
Who extician ask you to delay the resolution into after Resa.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
No. No.

Speaker 9 (09:06):
But I as you all know, I speak to the
President multiple times a day on a typical day, often always,
And what I know about the President's hard on this
is that he agrees with everything.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I've said here today.

Speaker 10 (09:20):
He wants maximum transparency, but he's also very insistent that
we do not subject people who have been already been
victims of unspeakable crimes to further public scrutiny. And it
would be a very dangerous thing to put those people's
names out or to do a release of information in

(09:41):
a way that is haphazard where they could be easily unmasked,
And so you have to be very careful about how
you do that.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's about real victims, Michael.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
For the victims, these poor girls.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I think these poor girls might like a little justice
for the crime that was done to them more than
just about anything. And speaking of masks, Mike Johnson is
straight up a makeup head nowadays.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Oh yeah, they all are baby sprayed down.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, yeah, he's looking. But he looked like he had
a little something on the lips too, and then like
maybe a touch of lipstick.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, I got a plump the lips, put
a little limp plumper you.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Know ye that Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I figured. Well, Mike Johnson, you know him and his
uh did you know this to? Him and his son
have an app where they can it tells each other.
It's an accountability that tells each other if one of
them logs into pornography.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I did know that, so.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
They could run in and burst it. Don't touch yourself.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's a weird thing to do with your dad.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, more than a little bit weird and just like
the signal chat, they accidentally added me to that app
and the two of them porn heads yea, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
I wonder if, like if they if there's an un
spoken like if one of them doesn't and the other
one could catch them. It's like, well, I get a point,
Now I get one one freap.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Now these men are this This man is very sexually repressed.
Clearly he just wants to be beautiful.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
He just wants to wants to be a pretty bud.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
But also like to the point of what he's saying,
they have anytime they release classified stuff or declassify things,
they always redact the names of the victims. That is
the most standard.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Crazy to do thing. Yeah, you just put a.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Little black line over top of the victims' names. So
that's all.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Don't know anything about them trying to redact the names
of the victims because all we know, and this is
the Wall Street Journal reporting I think New York Times
as well, that they put a thousand FBI agents on
the job twenty four to seven for one hundred thousand
pages of the Epstein files looking for not victims' names

(12:01):
to redact Trump Trump's name.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Ye yeah, I saw it in the there was a
press conference I saw. I didn't want to learn the clip,
but basically the guy was saying the whistleblower was like
most things for two weeks in the FBI, important shit
was halted. There's agents pulled out of the field to
come and comb through. What they're saying is like over
one hundred thousand pages of Epstein files.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
That don't exist. By the way, Yeah, real.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Everyone's making it up.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
They were just looking at blank pieces of paper and
throwing them in the air for fun.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I mean, this is where it gets into the whole
thing with like, I feel like it's slipping away already.
And because what made this an opportunity for us to
pounce on Donald Trump, just like January January sixth, was
that for a minute, there were Republicans that were like,
and Lindsay Graham, count me out. I'm I want nothing

(13:03):
to do with it. And for a few minutes they're
at the Epstein list, They're like, what the f what
is he hiding? This is shady, This is shady, And
for you the audience, I listened to the conservative podcast
to see what they're saying. Alex Jones started with the
narrative of he's using the Epstein list because the deep
State is on the Epstein list and Donald Trump is

(13:26):
using it to blackmail them into surrendering power, to which
I say, couldn't you just release it, arrest them and
wouldn't them all going to federal prison bea better than
a surrender? Yeah, this, I will say, maga relative hit
me with that very excuse. Something's up the sasketchy I

(13:48):
think Trump's on the Epstein list, to a measly five
days later, I think he was that He's not on
the Epstein list, but he's using it to blackmail the
deep state. This lie is catching fire. I know.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I have seen a shift this week, and it's started
to bother me where I'm seeing more and more right
wing people who last week were really upset, like to
the point of like posting stuff online like in the
like about to cry, Yeah you were so upset by this,
to this week being like, you know, saying sentiments like that,
expressing things that are like they're starting to get the distractions.

(14:25):
They're starting to work because like, these are only the
ones that I found. There's so many more in the
right wing sphere.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah again, like you says.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Why today's choose, I think is going to be such
a problem for them because Okay, so he's using the
list to blackmail the deep state. Then why is Todd Blanche,
his former defense attorney for his criminal trials who's now
the Deputy Attorney General meeting with Gullaye Maxwell? And I'm

(14:57):
very disappointed to find out that it's definitely Gullay and
that I've I've discovered because like the way it's spelled
sounds kind of fancy Laine. And then it's like, oh,
everything Maga is just redneck. It's Gullaine. Good Glain, get.

Speaker 11 (15:13):
In here now and finish your ambrosiou salad.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
What's funny is I can't stop hearing people pronouncing her
name jiz Lane. Everyone is calling her jizz Lane, and
I'm like, that's that can't be.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
You have to know that's incorrect, But they don't know
it's incorrect.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
They are saying it with their full chest because.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's people on the right. It's Maga people who are
like this, damn jizz Laine. Maxwell, And I'm like that,
can't you gotta know that's wrong?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah, you have to feel in your heart that that's incorrect.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But what do you think I just out of curiosity?
How do you think they're gonna spin this? I'm like,
my brain is trying to catch up.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I don't know this is I mean that just dropped today. Uh,
And I've got I've got some clips because they're Oh,
let's let's play one right now since we're talking about it,
and then we'll get back to I wanted to talk about.
They used the Obama defense, much like the Chewbacca defense
they used in South Park to distract them. They used

(16:12):
the Obama defense and then they sprinkled in a little
bit of Hillary. But we'll play those clips in a second.
But let's see here. Yeah, the gise Lane clips are
early jes Lane.

Speaker 12 (16:26):
Right now, Glen Maxwell is behind closed doors here at
the Federal Courthouse in downtown Tallahassee, meeting with Deputy Attorney
General Todd blanche. This is a meeting that came together
in recent days. It's underway now, and it's highly unusual
because it's a meeting between a convicted sex trafficker and
the very Justice department that successfully prosecuted her. And it

(16:48):
comes Diana as she is appealing her twenty twenty one
conviction and the Justice Department is urging the US Supreme
Court to reject that appeal. But here now Glenn Maxwell
Blanche face to face discussing, according to Blanche, what maybe
some lingering questions about her case, as the White House

(17:09):
has been trying to turn the page from the whole
Jeffrey Epstein matter.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Turn the page of the list that doesn't exist. So
they met with her, like you said, which is crazy,
that was yesterday. They keep meeting with her. They met
with her today. And this is what the lawyer had
to say on the steps of right outside of the courtroom.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
But what else did Maxwell's attorney.

Speaker 13 (17:36):
Say, Well, he said a lot. We wish we could
be in and hear what was said in the actual meeting.
This meeting was a lot shorter than it was yesterday,
but this was a two day event. The highlight, though,
it appears that her team wants a pardon.

Speaker 14 (17:49):
Watch.

Speaker 15 (17:51):
We're going to take one day at a time. I
know that's very cliche, but it's true because things are
happening so quickly. We haven't spoken to the President or
anybody about a pardon just yet. And you know, listen,
the President this morning said he had the power to
do so we hope he exercised that power.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
In the right and justling.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Jesus Christ, they're gonna let her out. They're just gonna
let her out.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, that's what it seems like. That's the direction that
this is obviously headed in.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah. So to which I say to my maga friends,
I'm like, it's way worse than you thought. Not only
are you guys on the side of covering for pedophiles now,
but you are on the side of the one person
convicted of this child's sex ring that drove you nuts
for ten years that you were convinced was the keys

(18:41):
to the kingdom, that took out the whole Deep State.
Now you're on the side of letting out of jail,
the one person convicted.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
You're setting her free.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I have this word at the tip of my tongue
to describe you people, and it's an old chestnut, but
I think it's pretty accurate. Deplorables. You're freaking deplorables. Hillary
was right, Hillary was right. Gillory, lock her up, Lock.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Her up, dude.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
And it's it's wild from just from my perspective hearing
about this now, because I have such vivid memories of
being like nine years old at my friend's house playing
moncala and hearing my mom and her mom yelling in
the kitchen about the pizza hut basement where they had
and how pizzas were girls and hot dogs were boys.
Like this is like twenty five freaking years ago. They

(19:35):
were with Hella deep in the from the beginning. Dude,
my whole life. Yeah, I got acupuncture to treat my
striped throat like all that kind of shit. And wow,
it's just wild that in that it's been that long
and y'all are this close to it and you're gonna
give up. You're gonna be like, no, Daddy Trump is

(19:56):
right now, We trust him.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
What you're so close? You're so close?

Speaker 5 (20:01):
What if I tell you guys, there's definitely democrats in
there too. There's definitely you should look and see if
there are democrats in there. Like anything, it's wild to
me that people would not give a shit anymore.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, it's insane to me.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
It seems like the thing that could bring the country together. Okay,
Trump goes down, but guess what, so does Bill Clinton?
Come on? We all agree on this. It's a weird way.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
But it's a way, it's a worthy sacrifice.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
I would say he's been gone for a minute ever
since the balloons dropped at Hillary's party, and he was
just like by like, he's been gone for a minute.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
We could take him off the board. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
That Who cares The difference between us and them though,
is that no one on our side has their entire
identity wrapped up around to Bill Clinton.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Yeah, if this comes through, I'm gonna have to get
rid of all my Bill Clinton merged, my Bill Clinton
hat and my Bill Clinton's sign, and my Bill Clinton's
fag am I Bill Clinton golden saxophone. Oh wait, none
of those things exist, and.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I make the Democrats more corporate hat that I used
to wear.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well, we'll go back to and said today, by the way,
because you were like, oh, he's not going to release
the list. They're gonna release just laying I.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Can't start, you can stop, you gotta stop.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
They're not gonna list Alan. They might release Ga Lane.
This is just it's not going good. But this is
what Trump had to say to day. This is just
a few hours ago, right outside of his little helicopter.
So let's see what he has to say.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
You should focus on Clinton.

Speaker 14 (21:39):
You should focus on the president of Harvard, the former
president of Harvard. You should focus on some of the
hedge fund guys.

Speaker 13 (21:47):
I'll give you a list.

Speaker 14 (21:48):
These guys lived with Jeffrey Epsad I yours hell did.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
He said it.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
We'll give you a list.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
We'll give you a list. I just need a second
to make a different one. Give me a minute.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
I'll make you a different one, and then that one
I'll release.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
That's not good, I mean, but that's what desperate and
nervous looks like to me.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Oh yeah, visibly so visibly so yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well, by the way, like I was thinking, we were
talking about reactions and stuff like that earlier. If they
must have brought in those thousand FBI agents and they
looked through it and they were like, Okay, worst case scenario,
we're looking for every reference for Trump. Maybe we cut
him out, maybe we redact it and we can save
his name. But what has happened, clearly is he's so

(22:35):
in this motherfucker. He's so in these files that even
redacting his name, you'd still know who it was, or
he's so instrumental to it that you couldn't cut him
out of it, and the files makes sense.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeah, it would just be like solid black pages, just
a thousand solid black pages.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
And that's the joke the other night at a show
that if you reject or if you took Donald Trump's
name out of one hundred thousand page Epstein files, it
would be three pages long.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, basically.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, but we skipped over it. But I want to
go back to the Obama defense because that was buck wild,
because out of nowhere, out of nowhere, we had what's
her name, evil rogue from x Men.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, Gathered.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Sorry, I.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Forgot her name. I've just sell out. She is, oh man,
and this does to them. Look what he does to them.
He humiliates them. She has created herself.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, because here's this the tone she comes out, and
this is what she says. I believe this was Tuesday.
So let's listen to her using the Obama defense.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
his National Secureity team directed the creation of an intelligence
community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it
would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the
twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it
to the American people as though it were true. It wasn't.

(24:19):
The report that we released today shows in great detail
how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources,
They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.
They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards, and withheld the

(24:39):
truth from the American people. In doing so, they conspired
to subvert the will of the American people who elected
Donald Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen.
They worked with their partners in the media to promote
this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump
and launching what would be a year's long coup against

(25:00):
him and his administration.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
The absolute balls of them to use words like coup
and subvert the will of the American people after January sixth.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, crazy bonkers.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I want to make a few quick points, if I might.
Number one, it was a bipartisan committee that looked into this,
and they concluded that Russia did, in fact interfere with
our in our election in an effort to help Donald
Trump get elected. Now, it was chaired by a Republican

(25:35):
and I would very much like people to find this
guy and ask him. I don't know what happened to him.
Young guy, you might remember him. His name was Marco Rubio.
That was sure of the committee that looked into this,
that concluded Russia absolutely three year long investigation they conducted

(25:58):
and concluded this and more point if I may, and
that is mister Paul Manafort. Paul Manafort, donald Trump's campaign manager,
was working for olofft der Pascoff in Ukraine. Olof der
Pascoff is a Russian oligarch with connections to Putin and
Russian intelligence. Manifort's working for him and then suddenly comes

(26:20):
to America to become Donald Trump's campaign manager in the
summer of twenty sixteen, a job that is rather prestigious
and pays really well, which makes it so strange that
Manafort did it for zero dollars and zero cents. He
flew over from Ukraine, where he worked for a Russian asset,
did the job for zero dollars in two zero sense.

(26:41):
After Donald Trump became president, Manafort was arrested for failing
to register as a foreign agent, which he was. At
his trial, he admitted to taking internal polling data from
the Trump campaign and sending it to his connections in
Russian intel diligence, who would then use it to target

(27:02):
areas in America to help Donald Trump. That's collusion, that's everything.
So when you say Russia hoax, you mean the Russia
hoax is a hoax. You're one hoax short, just add
an extra hoax. The Russia hoax is a fucking hoax. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, And he freaks it up all the time.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, of course, Russia, Russia, Russia. I mean the way
he talks, it's like this run on sentence that he
adds the failing New York Times had push the Russi Russia,
Russia campaign, the fifty two intelligence agents, the laptop from Hell,
like it's all one, a little.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Bit of it's all one, single thought, just spilling out
of his dribbling mouth.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh, before I play my next clip, which again is
about Tulca Gabbert, she actually went on Charlie Kirk and
she talked about the Obama defense, which she took a
little bit step further. But before we do that, I
want to play Tulsa Gabbard playing I can't believe Obama
wasn't working, she played the Hillary emails, Baby, let's.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
Go hih level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote,
psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness,
and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily
regiment of heavy tranquilizers.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I'm sure all that's true, by the way.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah, I don't thought that for a second. But can
I point out something?

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, please let.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Me ask you something. Actually, Okay, do you know where
we got those emails?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Actually, don't let me remind you of a quote from
Donald Trump while he was running for president.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
When it became clear who had hacked the emails and
stolen them and given them to Wiki leaks, Donald Trump said,
and I quote and Russia, if you're listening, release the
rest of the emails. She just countered her own fucking narrative.
Those emails were hacked by Russian intelligence, released by Russian intelligence,

(28:55):
and Donald Trump admitted it, asking Russian intelligence to give
him more dirt on his opponent. In twenty sixteen, Jesus Christ,
I forgot about the fucking hopes.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I feel like so too much has entered my brain
and I completely forgot about that because yeah, that was
that was That's how they got their hands on the
majority of the emails, and I'm sure how they got
all this new information that just dropped. Yeah, that's damn
thank you for reminding us of how terrible it's been
in for how long. But she takes it a step

(29:31):
further and like literally goes on old tiny face, weird
teeth Charlie Kirk and says that Obama should be charged
for treason.

Speaker 13 (29:41):
Here we go, what makes you believe that this reaches
that sort of threshold.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
When we look at our democratic republic, Charlie, Our system
is built on the foundation of the American people casting
their votes for who they want to be in office,
to be our president and commander in chief. In this system,
there is to be a peaceful transition of power. What
we saw play out here was President Trump was elected

(30:09):
by the American people in twenty sixteen, shocking most people
in the United States and apparently even Russia.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
And Fudin didn't think that he would win.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
Instead of accepting that this is the will of the people,
what we saw as President Obama convening his national security
team and concocting this contrived, false narrative through the production
of this Intelligence Community assessment in January twenty seventeen, with
the specific intent of subverting the will of the American

(30:39):
people and trying to delegitimize President Trump's election and therefore
everything that he had been charged to do by the
American people over the next four years. So, yes, this
is a treasonous conspiracy that subverts the will of the
American people.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean, is she trying to make me jump out
a window? Yeah, she said peaceful transfer of power.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
She she's talking like a Democrat in fucking twenty twenty
or it's in twenty twenty one, at the beginning of
twenty twenty one, you.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Like, it was the same exact lines we used when
Trump legitimately tried to stop the peaceful transition of power. Yeah,
it was. It's unfucking and then accuse him of treason.
So if if if Obama trees and you treason, you know, yeah,
if me trees and you treason, all we all treason.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I just want to point out very quickly that we
just had Caroline former Turning Point USA Charlie Kirk employee,
high ranking employee at that on the show this week.
It's episode eight twenty, and if you want to hear
the dirt on Turning Point, USA, as well as some
dirt on just the Republicans and the conservative movement in general,

(31:57):
check out that excellent episode.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yes, it's very good. I shared some clips. We put
some clips because yeah, it's amazing. It's a really good one,
and it's it's good to see that sometimes some people
can be in that world so young and not just
become fully indoctrinated and kind of separate from it. Because
I do worry about gen Z all the time, and
I know they're just young and figuring it all out

(32:24):
and the Internet is rotting their brains. But you know,
I think they'll be okay eventually, hopefully, we hope, we hope.
I just think that's wild that they're using. But also, like,
at the end of the day, like I think this
is all a mute point because remember that the Supreme

(32:45):
Court essentially gives the president, you know, god king power. Now,
if you do an official action as president, according to
the Supreme Court, you cannot be criminally held held criminally
liable for it. Period. Yeah, So what the fun is
she even talking.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
About because she's a conservative now and it only counts.
That only counts when Trump does it, when if somebody
else does doesn't count. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, that all happened before the Supreme Court did that,
so that should be criminalized obviously afterwards, totally fine before.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, it doesn't matter when the white guy does it,
black guy does it. Another set of rules.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I just couldn't believe this week. I was I kept
thinking all week, I can't believe they're talking about Obama
and Hillary. I just can't even fucking a musician. When
a band rolls out the greatest hits.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
It's over.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
That's a really good point. When they get that Greatest
Hits compilation album, We're all you know it's over.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
You will never hear another good song out of them.
And in this case, Trump's he's done, He's got nothing left. Yeah. Yeah,
did I tell you I'm gonna all the Mexicans?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
You told us Hillary? Hillary, dude? We heard what else?
How about the Epstein list? Obama? You just said that?
What about Obama?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Though? But I love that he was throwing in that.
I'll give you a list clip. He was throwing bankers
under the bus and you know, had fun people. What
about what about them? I can't believe he was he was.
I've never actually really heard him fall that aggressively into
like what about isms? He was really like what about
this guy? They've they lived with him.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I didn't sound like what about ism as much as
the guy in the interrogation room with the cops.

Speaker 16 (34:43):
Oh yeah, wake up, I'll give you the bankers. I'll
give you the hedge fund people. Hi, I got the
goods on all of them. Why do you have this list?
By the way, Donald Trump, why do you have this list?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, that's a really good point. Why do you know it?

Speaker 7 (34:55):
Well?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
How do you know about these guys?

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Where does this list come?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Right? I? I know all the people that were part
of the sex rin How how do you know?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah? That is a fucking hilarious admission. But earlier this
week he had time for another story, and we're gonna
we're gonna leave Epstein Island sail away. I'm sure we'll
be back a little bit later and definitely be back
next week because God only knows what's gonna happen. But
I just wanted to throw a fun one in there.
And here's Trump earlier this week addressed he nukes it.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's my guess next week, They're like, we haven't had
a nuclear test in a long time. He just terms
a random island and wait, but there was all this
evidence there. Whoops. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Every week we do a prediction. I love. I usually
have the more insane predictions.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I love.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
He's gonna he's gonna fucking nuke Epstein Island.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I hope you're right. That's actually that's hilarious. I went
on the record. I'm pro Himnokie got State Island. That's
fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Okay, well here's a fun one he brought back. You
said he's playing the hits. What did he have to
talk about this week earlier?

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Wind mills? Baby?

Speaker 14 (36:15):
Well, I think I say two things to Europe. Stop
the windmills. You're ruining your countries. I really mean it.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's so said.

Speaker 14 (36:25):
You fly over and you see these windmills all over
the place, ruining your beautiful fields and valleys and killing
your birds. And if they're stuck in the ocean, ruining
your oceans the birds.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Uh has he ever heard of a thing called the air? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Oh well, I've got a list. Go ahead, and I
want you to make some guesses on this list. Okay,
I found this list. This was aggregated from data that's
been collected up until twenty seventeen, so it's a bit
of an older list. But I think he's still pretty accurate. Okay,
because it was a collective. The source here is US
Fish and Wildlife Services, all right, which.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
That might not exist anymore, honestly.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Well, yeah, he might have cut that because they put
out this list, and he was just like, I thought,
they killed way more birds. But this is bird deaths
because he always brings up the fucking birds.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
Everybody always does when it comes to woodmills. That's their
like number one thing against it.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
So on this list, birds collisions land based when turbines,
they killed two hundred and thirty four and twelve birds
a year.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's a lot of fucking birds. That's a shurate I'm
just I'm wowing at the accuracy. And twelve I.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Don't Yeah, and the rest of that'd be a twelve. Yeah.
That was Carlos. We loved him.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
He was a blue jay.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
He flew right into the turbine.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, the twelve is a little weird, but I guess
I don't know how they aggregate this information, so it
says wind turbines are not killing fields of birds. So
it says annual estimates bird mortality from selected anthropogenic causes
in the US. So this is just what kills him
the most. We go way up on the list. What
do you think the top three killers are of bird?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Windows? Is in there somewhere flying into glass windows?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
That is number That is number two. You got it,
collisions building glass at five hundred and ninety nine million
birds a year. Whoa, that's number two. We have jumped
all right, So that's number two. What do you think
is the number one killer of catt oftway? We have

(38:37):
to this this is crazy. Two point four billion birds
a year? Yeah, two point four wow billion birds a year.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
So two and forty thousands four billion with a b wow.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah. And so I wasn't Trump against cats or windows?

Speaker 5 (38:59):
I don't know that's a valid question because they don't.
Windows don't ruin the beautiful fields, they don't ruin the
beautiful oceans.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
He love grabbing pussy. Yes, bigger, younger guns, we see it.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
So this is a very esoteric reference to a Bert
Lancaster film from about nineteen sixty two. But does this
make Trump the Birdman of Alligator Alcatraz.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Shit, I'm sure there's someone out there that Yeah, really there.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Was a film of Alcatraz.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
That's all I'll say.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Which he still thinks they're going to reopen the real Alcatraz?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Does he still think that? Or was that just a
fever dream he had a few months ago or a
month ago or whatever.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
The fuck they might He might have people closed him
being like, yeah, it'll definitely happen, we'll do it later, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
And just like I was convinced that that's why they
call it Alligator Alcatraz, because they he kept probably insisting,
uh oh, we need we needed an open Alcatraz, we
need to open Alcatraz. And then they were like and
then they had to get with Ronda Santis and be like,
put up a bunch of fucking dents in some cages,
all right, and we're going to call that Alcatraz and

(40:17):
maybe he'll forget about it.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Yeah, he'll get his Alcatraz.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, because basically every structural engineer on the planet was like, that's.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Already drinking, it's already flooding, and so I.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Think they did it to distract him. Honestly, what you
have to Toddler. It's like, Timmy, we have something better
than going to Disneyland. We're going to Sears, you know whatever.
But you know.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
It's a new Alcatraz, your own Alcatraz that you made
all by yourself.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
How does that sound? That sound good?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Sound good, little buddy.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
It's a proverbial the keys that they're dangling.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, that's about all the Trump news I've got this week.
I know you've sent me a clip. Uh do you
have any setup you want to say before we play this?

Speaker 17 (41:11):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (41:12):
This was I believe Tim Kaine if I'm not mistaken.
Uh Hillary Killary? Uh Killary. Let's see which name should
I go with? Because I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh.
I think Hilda Beast was my favorite.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
And again, oh that's because Rush came up with it,
the ones. Trump comes up with her, the dumb ones.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, Lil Roco King.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
But yeah, hilde Beast Clinton. That's a that's a Rush
Limbaugh original, folks.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
And solid Rush by the way.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Thank you. Uh, I was I forgot to do my
Obama when you were talking about him long and so.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
That's just one.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
That's all I got. So Tim Kaine. I'm not sure
who it is that he's grilling, but it's somebody from
the Trump administration, and boy it's uh. I wish Tim
was this uh, this forceful when he was Hillary's VP.
I wish Hillary was forceful when she was running for president.
I wish a little backbone I think would have put

(42:27):
them over the top. But anyway, Yeah, that's what this
clip is. This is in the Senate, a Senate hearing. Damn.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I almost forgot this man existed, by the way, So
I'm glad. I'm glad he's back. Glad he's fighting.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
What do you think Martin Luther King Junior would say
about a nation that purchased food for starving kids and
then locked it in a warehouse until it expired and
incinerated it rather than giving it out so that twenty
seven thousand starving kids could survive Meagerly, nearly five hundred
tons of high energy biscuits started to USAI t warehouse
in Dubai, are due to expire in July. According to

(43:00):
a former USAID official, the biscuits could feed at least
twenty seven thousand acutely malnourished children for a month. The
biscuits are now likely to be destroyed or turned into
animal feed. That article was from two months ago. Yesterday,
The Atlantic reported that the expiration date on those five
hundred tons of nutritious food for starving kids was now

(43:23):
upon us, and the US had decided to incinerate that
food rather than allow starving children to have it. Mister
you're sure, the Deputy Secretary for Management and Resources. These
are resources that were purchased with US taxpayer dollars. They're
specifically designed to save the lives of starving children. Why

(43:44):
is it a good use of resources to not distribute
that food to kids and instead burn it?

Speaker 18 (43:51):
Thank you for the question, Centator. I'd have to look
into that particular issuancy how those food stuff got there.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
Can I just interrupt for a second. I asked this
question at a hearing yesterday, so you would be prepared
to know that I would ask it today, and we
called your office to tell you that I would ask
it today. So the notion that you need to look
into it strikes me as a little bit odd. I
view it as an intentional thing, because if we suddenly
woke up and joy, oh gosh, the expiration data is today,

(44:20):
you know that would be one thing. But in March
there was a request by the World Food Program and others.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Look, if you're not going to distribute.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
It, maybe you've decided the US that starving kids are
no longer your thing.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
But you have this asset.

Speaker 6 (44:34):
If you're not going to distribute it, will distribute it.
So it's not a mistake if you've been on notice
of it for two months and you've made the decision
to keep the warehouse locked. Hey, you went to Boston University.
Who is the most famous BU alum?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
The most famous?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Be you all next to you?

Speaker 18 (44:52):
I don't know. I don't want to offend anyone that's
graduated from BU.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you who it is.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Okay, Martin Luther King Junior.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
What do you think I think Martin Luther King Junior
would say about a nation that purchased food for starving
kids and then locked it in a warehouse until it
expired and incinerated it rather than giving it out so
that twenty seven thousand starving kids could survive meagerly for
one more month.

Speaker 18 (45:17):
We're still the biggest giver of aid anywhere in the
world by far, So I think I'll just conclude.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
I want to hand it back to mister chair. A
lot of complicated issues. You know, sometimes the tiniest detail
really exposes the soul.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Wow, damn came with hard.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I never thought i'd say that Tim Kaine went hard
as fuck.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
We told you yesterday that we'd be asking this question today,
and you still don't know it. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I love that tact.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
That was great.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, because they all say, oh, sata or I'd be
happy to look into that. I don't know the details
on that specific issue, but i'd be happy. He's like,
I called your office and told them I was going
to ask this question.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
So you could look into it.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
So you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
You're just playing dumb now.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, intentionally avoiding Why why are we not feeding children anymore?
I have I've asked this too many Trump supporters. I said,
if you were told twenty years ago that a man
that all, not all, but most Christians agree was appointed
anointed by God to lead our nation, our Christian nation,

(46:26):
would you have guessed that one of the first things
he would do would be to cancel feeding starving children? Like,
it doesn't add up. How is that something that you
the Christian right wants is for us to stop feeding children,
starving children.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I think it's because it's it's it's their children, not
our children. Yeah, like there is, Like it's so weird
the lines that they draw for America. Like you hear
what do you hear when you hear entangled? When people
say deep state? Right, they also always say globalist use
that as a slur essentially or as a negative, and

(47:04):
like it always even being younger and hearing like Alex
Jones like we're glomost you know, bringing that up. I
never understood why that was such a bad thing. Like
just the idea that we would think about other countries
around the world to them is really evil. And I
think they just can't see them as people. I mean,
they don't even see the you know, migrants, the ice

(47:26):
have been resting as people.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Yeah, these are the same.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
These are the same exact people who when your school
sends your kids home with like a list of like
buy ten pencils and blah blah blah, they make sure
to write and sharpie their kid's name on every single one,
because God forbid that ten pack of pencils go into
a communal bin and some kid who doesn't have pencils
that day gets to have one of those. God forbid,
Like it's only me for mine and mine alone.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
It's the whole thing.

Speaker 16 (47:51):
JD.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Vance was saying, that's the even worse people. Yeah, because
like there are some people that are Christians that at
least try to at least seem like they give a
fuck about American children or maybe like donate to their
church or do food drives and stuff like that. Yeah,
but like, like I think the majority of the MAGA
base is like what you're saying, the people that are

(48:14):
you know, I wouldn't give a poor child a cookie.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Yeah, I wouldn't spit on a poor kid if he
was dying of thirst. Like those kind of people, What
do you say? J. D. Evans was saying the whole
thing he was saying. I think it was him the
other day that was saying, like, it's the Christian way
to first think of your family, and then think of
your church, and then think of your community, and then
think of your country and then maybe consider the rest

(48:38):
of the world. But there's a Christian ordering to what
you should care about based on the Bible.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
There is no such hierarchy in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
That's not a thing.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
It's literally what you would do to the least lesser
of you, you've done to me, Like, that's literally what
are you talking?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
But that's not no, that's just that's just the modern
justification for being pieces of ship.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Yeah, basically, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
The evangelical justification.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I will tell you that. Uh, just talking about their
justifications and their brains. I hate to do it. Oh,
I'm taking us back to Epstein Island.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Well we're back on the plane, how about it, Because
he's going to the Upsteed Island in the eighteen eighties anyway, so.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
God knows what was going on back then. So maybe
that island has always been the darkest place ever.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, Oh for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
It's like way off the coast of southern Florida.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Right, I have no idea. I have no idea. I
would be honest, I don't know where it is.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I think jurisdictionally it fell in Florida.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Hence why she, hence why Julaine Maxwell is in Tallahassee
talking about stuff that would actually make sense.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah. Yeah, I was watching one of the watching these
right wing podcasts, and I was checking one out, and
here is the conversation that they were having their brains.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
They're amazing brains, very smart brains.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
They literally said this, the age of consent is only
sixteen in some states, yes, and in some countries it's
as young as nine. So what are we even talking
about here? Oh my god, they are now debating the
age of consent. They have lowered themselves, grown men who

(50:33):
put their names on the podcast for all to see,
who is saying this? Are now debating the age of
consent to get Donald Trump off the fucking hook. That's
where they're at.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Libertarians have always been a little finicky with that whole
age of consent question. Yes, yeah, anarcho capitalist guys like
they're like if any time you asked them about the
age of concent they're like, wow, actually a breedable female
age and you're like that, no, that's now that that's
how those fucking horrible conversations always go. Yeah, that's a

(51:06):
pretty common uh so, like honestly, like that's what's even
scarier now is like that has kind of always been
a fringe like libertarian and Kapistan crazy person uh position,
and the fact that it's because of Trump been able
to weasel.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Its way into the mainstream into.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, slightly the mainstream, and I'm sure that's going to
be prevalent. I'm sure that's gonna come up a lot
more and hope hopefully we get some fucking pushed.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
But their brains are so amazing that I would not
doubt that if the Epstein List came out and it
was like Donald Trump touched this girl when she was
fourteen years old, that they would be like, but she's
thirty five now, so.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
Like it's chill.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
I mean, you know, you can't charge people for stuff
that happens in the past, right, That's not how the
law works.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Right. I will say that I was watching one of
the big conservative podcasts and I decided the most annoying
thing in the world is the intel legent, well put together,
buttoned down Trump supporter. Like that goes, hold on a second.

Speaker 11 (52:07):
Now, obviously there's a lot of uh kerfuffle going on here,
but let's talk about the Epstein List from a practical
point of view.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Okay, So, and I'm just like, dude, you're literally putting
a fucking suit and tie on a piece of dog
shit you found lying in the fucking neighbor's yard. It's
like it doesn't work. It's like it must just be
the toothless hick going. I don't care what it says. Yeah,
I articulate, fucking defense of it turns my stomach.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Oh well, then I've got a great clip for you
that I forgot about until you brought it up. Uh, honey,
of course, I'm talking yet again about Stephen Colbert definitely
being fired because Trump gave the go ahead. I actually
sent you this. I'll read it real fast. Trump truthed,

(52:58):
and I'll just read the beginning of it because it's
a long, rambling, bullshit rant. But he truthed. The word
is and it's stronger where God damn it, and it's
a strong word at that. Jimmy Kimmel is next, All
caps to go and the untalented Late Night Sweepstakes actually
thereafter Fallon will be gone. So with that, to me,
was such an admission of I love this.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I had a hand in this.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yeah, I made this happen.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yeah. But so they asked him, even on Fox News,
and someone was there to defend him.

Speaker 19 (53:29):
Let's please, let's just go ahead and get it out
of the way. Did President Trump have anything to do
with the cancelation of Stephen Colbert's show.

Speaker 17 (53:37):
Well, here's what's important to keep in mind as a
broader dynamic. When President Trump ran for election, he ran
right at these legacy broadcast media outfits in the New
York and Hollywood elites that are behind it, and he
smashed the facade that these are gatekeepers that can control
what Americans think and what Americans can say. And once
you do that, you've exposed a business model a lot

(54:00):
lot of these outfits as being nothing more than a
partisan circus. And so I think there's a lot of
consequences that are flowing from President Trump deciding I'm not
going to play by the rules of politicians in the
past and let these legacy outfits dictate the narratives in
the terms of the debate. And he's succeeding. Just look
at what's happening. NPR has been defunded, PBS has been defunded.

(54:21):
Colbert is getting cancer. You've got anchors in news media
personalities losing their jobs again. All of this is downstream
of President Trump's decision to stand up, and he stood
up for the American people because the American people do
not trust these legacy gatekeepers anymore. And all of this
I think is consequences of that broader dynamic.

Speaker 19 (54:39):
Okay, I asked a very direct question. I did not
hear a yes, sir or no in your answer. I
heard him maybe yeah.

Speaker 17 (54:45):
Ultimately, these are business decisions for CBS to make and
for these outfits to make. And I'm you know, shocked
at the type of stuff that you just played. They
don't find to be in their profitable business interests.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Still an answer except for the fact that it's the
highest rated show in late.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Night Yeah yeah, legacy show and also.

Speaker 11 (55:11):
Now for fifty years where they create shows that are
incredibly popular when people tune into and then they sell
advertisement on the pro's it's legacy, it's you know what
we've done this, We've tried it.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
What we need is something like Greg Gutfield, who gets
thirty people to tune in a night. Yeah oh yeah.
Greg Gutfield has good ratings, but that's because he has
every conservative tuning in where allan, yeah, Colbert, they're splitting it.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
And he has sleeping old people who just happened to
leave the TV on. That's the essential late night Fox
News demographic.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
What are you thinking, Uh, just just hearing him brag
about them getting rid of NPR and PBS, like they
just are so gleeful about destroying these American institutions that
like the government has helped support because it brings value
to the average American person to get these things for free.

(56:14):
And they're like, act, yeah exactly, Yeah, it's it's just
how do you guys do this every week? I'm so angry.
We've only been doing this for an hour. Yea, Oh
my god, my heart, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I think I think uh Virgilia had me on and
I think Trump's me first week or maybe before that,
and I didn't leave in like a sweaty coma, And
he was like, finally I found a co host who
wanted a mental breakout once a week. My main qualifications.
I did have a fucking panic attack at the end

(56:48):
of the episode.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah, I am dead serious when I say I've been
telling people the last few weeks that I don't need
coffee in the morning anymore. Just read the news. I'm
fucking up, I'm angry, I've got energy.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
I'm like, yeah, coffee, They're ready to have a.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Physical effect on me.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Oh yeah, well there was there's especially when the big
beautiful Bill passed. I know, we were having just a
lot of trouble processing that, like, yeah, it seems like
such an annoying thing to have to like have an
effect your your your mood all day.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
But when that passed, it really fucked us up.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Well yeah a lot, because like it just seemed like
such a loss and it is. It's a huge loss
that we have yet to see the ramifications of. But
when that happened, like it deeply affected us both emotionally.
It was tough.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Yeah, very very much.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
So it's going to get tougher. He's not going to
go down without a fight. I mean this, that's for sure.
He's going to force him to do things even more
extreme than he was willing to do initially or wanting
to do initially. But now it gloves are off, like.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Yeah, and they've they finally admitted for the first time
everything he's got a medical condition. I think they're lying
about what a medical condition it is, but that doesn't matter.
They've shown that he's has a weakness, which I believe
it was was it Mary Trump who released a book
who was like talking about how they would never admit
they are sick because that is weakness. Anything that has

(58:09):
to do with illness is weakness. He would never admit
to that. Yeah, so the fact that they have admitted
that probably tells you how sick he actually is. Yeah,
But like I feel like as a narcissist, him knowing
people know he's not one hundred percent and kicking it
is going to fuck with him too, not to mention
the fact that, for some reason, for the first time

(58:30):
in his life, people won't go along with his bullshit.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Yeah, people aren't just blindly agreeing with what he's saying.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah, he's going to spiral. I mean, that's why we're
seeing a potential pardon for Golaine.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I feel like that would be again I said it
at the top of the show. I don't know how
they would justify that, how they work that one out.
That doesn't fit into any of the new narratives they had.
The old narrative was the s the Epstein list, Bill
Clinton's on it, Stephen Colbert's on it, and it's the
deep state and Donald Trump's going to release it and
we're gonna finally get to the bottom of this thing.

(59:00):
And now they've had to scramble. They had to scramble
and figure out how do we how do we square
this circle? How do we make it make sense? And
all of the excuses they came up with that I've
heard pardoning Glane doesn't fit that narrative. It would be
at another puzzle piece that they would then have to
spin off into La La Land.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Well, we may be at the part of the narcissism
that is literally fuck you, I don't care anymore.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
Yeah, devaluation, Yeah, which is like, uh, you don't explain
what that means.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
Basically, there's a cycle of narcissistic abuse that happens where
it's love bombing, indifference, and then devaluation where it's like, oh,
I don't need you anyway, I'm good enough without you.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
You're the one who needs me.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
It's wild that you think you could talk back to
me like this because I'm doing great without you, but
you would be nothing without me.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Kind of that is what we are seeing with the
way he's been talking about his own supporters and how
they've been duped. I'm I never heard him talk about
stupid base like this before.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Stupid people follow they're following Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I've never heard him talk about his base like this before. Yeah,
I think you're right. I think we have finally hit
that point where he is turning on his own people.
But if that happens, I worry that he may just
hit the full tyrannical fucket switch, which is really terrifying
to me, that he just won't give a shit and
he'll just start indiscriminately doing things and he won't do
any cover for it, and he won't care, and he
won't tell you why he's doing it, and like you know,

(01:00:30):
he won't send the people out to even talk about it.
He'll just start doing yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah, and he will tell you why he's doing it, because.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
It's because I like watching you people cry.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
There was reporting and I don't remember where it was,
but some friend of Donald Trump's came out last week
and said that they said to him twenty five years ago,
thirty years ago, Donald, you love sleeping with married women.
Why do you prefer married women? And he said, because
it's so wrong? She gets off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Oh yeah, for sure, Oh yeah, for sure. We didn't
bring it up and I didn't get any clips. But
speaking of doing things wrong South Park, if anyone didn't
see it, couldn't recommend the episode more? Yes, not even
that it was the funniest south Park episode I've ever seen.
It's just man, they went hard and he is upset

(01:01:21):
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Yeah, yeah, it came out swinging.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Oh the like I think it was a deep fake.
I don't think it was a ever kept saying with AI,
I think it was a deep fake. And then a
computer generated tiny wiener of him running through the desert
and streight naked, and you putted this out to me
at the beginning of it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
What does it say at the beginning of the deep
fake thing of Donald Trump?

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
It says pro Trump add one of.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Fifty, which seems like it could be an off, an
off joke. But you also got to realize that the
deal south Park just signed with Paramount is for fifty
new episode, which means there is a chance we could
get a new pro Trump ad every single episode.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
I have no proof of this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
I was just like, it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Was just I saw that they signed for fifty in
one article, and then I saw the things said one
to fifty, and I was like, wait a minute, wait
a minute. I started putting the pieces together. That would
got to be what I mean, that's got to be it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
It would be and I haven't heard that. So it's
some extra credit to Katie for some real good sleuth
in there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Tell me about an hour before the podcast, and I
was like, God, I hope that's fucking true.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Yeah, fingers crossed, dude, that we get every episode.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
The h the comedy is back and we're not allowed
to say anything anymore. Crew to cool. This week, I
saw him going, it's not a funny episode. I mean
I watched it. It's it's like, it's not even funny.
It's like it's funny because every comedian I know thinks
it's absolutely hilarious. Us you are funny fucks, don't. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
See what they did is because they say the R
word in the f in there a lot. But they
directed in Trump's direction, and I told Katie I thought
that was genius. Yeah, because South Park guys don't give
a ship and they don't give a shit about, you know,
are offending anyone. They're kind of like centrist dudes, you
know what I mean. They're kind of in that piss
off everybody kind of mentality, which is why they made
fun of the woke stuff a whole lot. And in

(01:03:18):
this they turned those words on Trump, and I feel
like no one's ever really used those weapons that the
conservatives like wield. Yeah, that Maga and the manosphere and
people like that wield against them so aggressively because they're
used to debating like libs and leftists that are like,
you know, they didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
They don't say those words.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
And for south Park to hit them with those I
thought was fucking genius. Yeah, because they've probably never thought
it would come back at them like that. Yeah, or
go in Trump's direction to hear the you know, a
hard f and a hard not a hard heart, that's
not that's a different thing, but yeah, just to hear
shit like that big set about the president. I thought

(01:04:02):
it was genius was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
To hear the R word and they're like, wait, that's
our word.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
That I was bad at you for that one. That's
pretty good.

Speaker 20 (01:04:20):
Oh well, I mean we've made predictions Island, Yeah, yeah,
Mine is that they're definitely partaling, part partling, parting, pardoning.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Jise Lane.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
And Kati, do you have any predictions for next week?

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
My prediction is about the south Park episode because there's
no proof that there we're going to have one new
at pro Trump at every episode.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
It's two of fifty. I think that's confirmed.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
So that's my prediction, is that we're going to get
one new one of those every episode of South Park,
and I am tuning in to watch every single one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Got our predictions, Katie's my prediction?

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Does it come true?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I hope mine doesn't come true. I hope Katie's comes true.
The only one with a Yeah, you're the only one
with a good prediction. It wouldn't be like world shattering,
earth ending.

Speaker 19 (01:05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Yeah, oh fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
All right, Hey, Katie, I asked this of Travers every week.
Why don't I ask it of you? Where can people
find you?

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
I am on Instagram, a coder comedian. That's actually my
name across all things on Instagram. On TikTok, I haven't
been posting a lot, but I just got a tiny
little smart car and I might just turn my TikTok
into my smart car.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
TikTok actown.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Did you buy the tiny little car? But I barely
fit in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
And I love it so much. I'm so excited about it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
So you might see Katie zipping around in her tiny car.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
All right, Captain signs off. I'm glad, I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
We didn't crash in any rocks on the way to
Epstein Island. You know, we didn't end up in the ocean,
even though I kind of wish the plane would crash
in the ocean this point, You know what I mean. Yeah,
it's been good. It's been good to lead all of you.
I can't wait till you're in charge again next week.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Until then, I'll see you all next week. Goodbye everybody,
Bye bye.