#825 - Trump's Terrible 29th Week - Finale

Michael Regilio makes a big announcement. Michael and Travis discuss the week of Trump

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Welcome to the weekly roundup up.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Starring Michael Riggilio, your host, Michael Virgilio, and Travis Kleibern. Hey, Travis,
nice to see you.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm glad you can see me after your surgery.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, can you believe I can see? I mean, it's crazy.
I'm dancing and singing the praises of my God Science.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Because he's he. Oh pray him.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was blind and now I can see. I had
a cataract at at cat gat.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
You are to know solid, that was solid.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
But uh wow, let me tell you this, Travis Cliburn,
And I'm not proud of what I'm about to say,
but it is true. I have, as a younger man,
done LSD magical mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh silly sigh.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I have seen Pink Floyd nine times.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh yeah, I'm sure you were totally sober like a boy.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
And I have never in my life seen anything as
psychedelic as you see when you are wide awake for
cataract surgery and somebody is tinkering with your optical nerve
endings because they're inside your eyeball.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
That's see when you you told me earlier, you called
me earlier to set up time to do this, and
you told me that you were awake. I did have
some existential dread. I didn't know they kept you awake
for that. I guess it makes sense, right, they're gonna
have you move your eye and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, they tape your head down like it you can't
see much, and they they do pump you full of drugs,
just not knockout drugs as the as the gentleman told me,
he said, I'm going to give you something that will
make you not care that we're operating on your eye.
Oh yeah, like it's that boat. It'll just and it
kind of worked. But there's a voice in your head

(02:35):
the whole time, going, there's a guy inside my eye. Yeah,
that's a psyched I mean, it looked like there were
moments when I was like, I feel like I'm on
the set of Tron, like with the lights and the shapes,
and it just looked crazy what was going on in there.
But at the same time, there's a voice in your
head going, yeah this, I'm thinking sooner than later, I'd

(02:55):
like this to end.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
There's someone in my eye. How long did it take?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Forty minutes?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
That is a long time to have a man in.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
A long time to be awake laying on the table. Yeah,
the effects are immediate. They put a eyepatch over your eye,
but it's a metal plate and it's to protect your eye,
and it's got holes in it so you can see
through it. And even lying in the recovering room recovery room,
I looked out and these cataracts had gotten pretty pretty

(03:27):
milky over the last couple of months, to the point
where you know, you ever met somebody that talks about
their youth and I go, oh my god. There were
times when I can't believe I got that drunk and
drove a car. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd say in the
last few months there were a few moments where I
was like, I can't believe I was that blind and
drove a car but it.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
All worked out. Oh yeah, all worked out.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
But yeah, just lying in her recovery, I was like,
oh my god, I can see the clock on the
wall across the room. I could read it like it's instantaneous. Obviously,
because they remove the milky lens and replace it within
artificial lens.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's amazing. Works right away.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It gets better over time as the inflammation and the
healing happens, so it's even a little bit better now
than it was initially. My glass is worthless. If I
put them on, I wouldn't be able to see a
thing a thousand times too strong. I don't need them
for walking around living life. It's interesting. So it's an
interior thing, you know. And the lens that they're replacing,

(04:31):
the cataract lens that has the cataract on it, that
as a biological piece of your body, can focus near
or far, and the one they replace it with cannot, obviously,
And so you have to choose. They say, do you
want to be near sighted or far sighted?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Really?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know you can't be yeah, so and then so
obviously I said far sighted because and this is just me,
but I've.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Always been this way.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Near Sighted people freak me out. Like what I was
away and I'd hand people a menu and they would
take off their glasses to read. I'd be like, wait,
you take off your glasses to read? Get out, You're
freak of nature. I don't want you here. Put on
your glass reading glasses.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's normal. My wife is near sighted, and I think
I think it's so weird to me or far sided
so she can means you can see far I always
get this confused. I have perfect vision. Sorry to brag everybody,
I've never needed glasses. I'm sorry, no brag. It's okay.
I have many other deficiencies. Don't worry. Uh but but
my wife, Yeah, it's so weird to me that, like

(05:34):
for far away, she can see fucking nothing. Yeah up,
Plus she has to take her she meased your glasses up.
She can read perfectly. And I'm like, yeah, that's like
a flaw that can that can't be good?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
No good, Like for me, the world looks as it
always looked, and then if I look at a book
or something, I have to put on you know. Now
I have just cheap over the counter right aid readers
until I get a new prescription. In about a month
and they work fine. But yeah, so the world just
looks fine and normal. Nothing's changed, like it seems like
as I look at the world, the world looks to
me as it looked before the cataract. It clear as

(06:06):
can be miracle. But I will tell you this, I
was worried with the clear vision because it had been
getting milky and cloudy whatever you want to call it,
over the course of a couple of years there. And
you know, these are formative years for a man where
you kind of you could fall apart youth. Youth slips

(06:29):
away in these last years of or forties, and you know,
so I was like, what is it going to be
like to look in the mirror, you know, with clear
eyes again? Am I going to be like disappointed? And
I wasn't too disappointed. I was liked, that looks okay.
But here's the funny thing that I did not see.
And this is totally true. I had no idea, no
idea that my chest hair had turned totally gray or white.

(06:53):
But I couldn't see it because the cataract is white.
So I just thought I didn't even know what tofts
of old man whit hair on my chest I looked
at the beer. I was like, what the what did
that happen?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Hilarious?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I have no idea what that happened, But let me
just tell you. The razor and the shaving cream came out.
I We'll see about that old man R. Julia was
shaving his chest. I'm not gonna have tufts of white
hair growing out of my chest.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
It was the whole thing white. You went full sanitariz.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I don't have much chest hair, but you know that
normal chester you get between the breasts, which also I'm
developing in middle age that I was aware of. That
I was aware of.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I can see my titties. I knew they were there. Yeah,
And I was speaking of which.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
So I went over to my friend's house last night,
and her mother has dementia. And I know her mother
quite well. I've known her forever. But I only say
that she has dementia because it makes sense in this
context that she walked into the room and there I
was with no glasses on for.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
The first time in a rate number of years. I
don't know if I've ever.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Even known you that when I didn't wear glasses, To
be honest with you, yeah, perhaps I don't remember it's
been years, but that's it. And she sees me and
she says, something's different about you. And I'm so proud
of the fact I don't have to wear glasses anymore.
And I said yes. And she looked me up and
down and said, you've gained weight and your hair is thinning.
And I said, stop guessing, stop guessing. No more guesses

(08:27):
for you. Yeah the answer now, there.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Will be no more guessing. That's tough. That is tough.
How thick was your hair? I feel like you still
have thick, luscious, beautiful hair. Oh thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well this particular woman does not think that, but yeah,
to which I was like, Jesus, so no joke. It's like,
you know how children are so honest, you know, they
just tell you. Well, apparently once the mind starts to
go with dementia, you become incredibly honest again. And I
was like, I was thinking about myself.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I was like.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Friends. I love friends, They're wonderful, but it's like, they
should tell you when you're starting to put on weight,
because they wait until it's so obvious that there's no
denying it, that they couldn't possibly offend you because you
could not know it's like, just you should have problem.
Now I go.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I went home. I'm looking in the mirror.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I'm like, well, time to start hiking in Griffith Park again.
As as get no chance, I'm chasing my youth with
that crap. I mean, else, he has no surgeries.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
I will let it go with grace. I feel like
at your age now, I mean, I think you're going
to keep most of it by now, most of it,
most of it. I mean in her defense, the back
it's thinning.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
You could there's a little something going on in the
back that's getting a little thin, a little thin back there.
When I first noticed that I was getting thin back there,
it was wild where I honestly, if I was standing
in front of somebody, particularly say an attractive woman, I
could feel a burning on the back of my head,
which was their eyes on my thinning spot. I'm like, ah,

(10:11):
I can feel them looking at it. I'm so embarrassed.
And at that time in my life, I was studying
the Stoics and Stoicism, and they embrace embarrassment and humility,
you know, that is part of the philosophical worldview. And
so I went to a movie theater one time with
a friend, and there was a row of beautiful women sitting,

(10:33):
and right in front of them there was an empty seat.
And I said to my friend, I'm going I'm gonna
go sit there. And then he's like, well, there's only
one seat. I said, I have to go sit there.
I need five beautiful women to stare at the back
of my head for two hours and I will be
over this embarrassment forever. And I went and I sat
and it was hot. The back of my head was hot.

(10:55):
I could see these beautiful women going this guy's bald spot.
It's all in my mind, of course, right.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Right, Yeah, they may have gandered for a second, but
you know.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, but it's hard to miss, you know, particular if
you're sitting behind somebody in a movie theater. And after that,
it didn't really it didn't really affect me that much.
And I'll tell you and you know this as well
as I do. Then I started doing a bit about
it and it got laughs, and I was like, well,
now I can't fix it. I'll take the laughs over hair,

(11:26):
any day.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know exactly how you feel. Yeah,
I totally understand. You can always convert to Judaism, where
a Yamica perfectly.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
No chance that those were invented by dudes with full
heads of hair in the exact spot that Maile Pitern
baldness happens.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I know there's a there's a there's a cock that
would come to fourth Wall every now and again. Then
he was un I can't remember if he was Orthodox
or what he was, but just always wore Yamica, you know.
And I remember he took it off itch his head
one time and I thought this man had a glorious
head of hair. And when he took it off perfect

(12:06):
Yamaica bald spot, I was like, man, is he just
Orthodox to cover that bad bitch up?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Because he was Catherine before he started losing their.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, it didn't seem what it didn't seem all
that religious to me, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
With the Yeah, that's hilarious. So I want to remind
anyone listening to our podcast this very fine day that
Dogma Debate is going through some chit chit chit change
as uh, I'm just gonna sing all the terribly sing
all the all the news of the day. Original host

(12:42):
David Smalley returning to the podcast, changing its name to
Serious Circus uh, Michael Rgulia will be a co host
on Serious Circus. But in addition, if you like what
I do, if you like what we do Travis and I,

(13:06):
that will be going to a new podcast. We don't
have a name yet, do we, Travis?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
No, Yeah, I'd liked your idea if you don't mind
me sharing it, the Rgilia versus everybody or Virgilia versus
the world, something like that.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I do like that, like everyone or something like that. Yeah,
let the if you if you have ideas, if you
like the idea of us doing our own thing, I'll
do my interviews as I've been doing. If you did
not hear Jenny Gage this week World's most famous ex

(13:42):
trad wife. Listen to that episode. It is we've only
seen clips. It was fantastic. Yeah, she is so honest.
She is an ex Mormon, x Christian nationalist, ex white supremacist,
current atheists, current liberal, and she her bravery is she

(14:05):
did not enjoy talking about that. Nobody likes to talk
about how they used to be a white supremacist. Tears
were shed in that episode, but her honesty is compelling.
She wants her story to get out there. She wants
people to hear how it is that she got into
that and she was maga too. She was maga cult
and she's out and she wants to tell her story.

(14:28):
It was not fun for her at points to tell
her story. I could hear in her voice that this week,
these were this was a difficult story to tell.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Nobody.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Nobody likes saying I used to be a white supremacist
and I'm not anymore. Yeah, you haven't heard that episode,
so it'll be you know, it'll be content like that.
And of course Travis and I are going to wrap
up the week every Friday, because I'll be honest with you,
my favorite part of the week.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, I look forward to Friday, mainly because throughout the week,
at some point I gotta stop other my wife with
the news of the world, you know what I mean.
And I've been able to keep and store it and
then we let it all out here. It's freay cathartic,
and then I can enjoy the weekend. But inevitably, by
about Saturday afternoons, something else will happen that I wish

(15:14):
we could have talked about on the podcast. But that's
just yeah, well, no, I mean, look, to be honest
with you, we could.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
You could not look at the news all week and
just look at what happened on Friday, and we'd still
have a show. But we do have the full Yeah, yeah,
we have the full weekly round up. I've put on
my ten dollars right aid readers, by the way, so
I can read from my notes now. And that's because,
like I said, my glasses are worthless. And even more
than that, the over the counter readers. I had to

(15:44):
buy the medium strength. Even the over the counter stuff
was too strong. Science.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Thank you, thank you science, Thank you, thank you science.
So get ready to get depressed.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
W NASA spent seven hundred and fifty million dollars developing
and launching a satellite that monitors carbon emissions in the atmosphere.
It has revolutionized how we understand climate change. It also,
as a side effect, helps us understand plant growth, and
farmers have been using the data to predict future crop yields.
Seven and fifty million dollars to develop and launch, but

(16:21):
now that it's in space only costs fifteen million dollars
a year to maintain. Donald Trump has ordered NaSTA to
shut it down and crash it into the atmosphere and
burn it up.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Destroy it. Christ Oh, yeah, I didn't know that. That's tough.
That's a tough one because it proves him wrong. Is
that what we're doing?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Of course, it's all the same, everything's the same. COVID
rates are going up, stop testing for COVID. Climate change
is really kicking in, and it's stop monitoring climate change.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Crash the satellite, crash the satellite. That's unbelievable. Does he
really have the I mean, what are we what am
I even saying? Does he even have the authority to
tell them to do something like that?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
He does, he does. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that it's
going to happen as he said it is. Let me
read to you from NPR. The Trump administration plans to
defund and shut down a NASA two NASA emissions. It's
actually two NASA missions. Oh, I forgot to mention the
other one. The other one is just a piece of
equipment on the ISS. Well, he just said, turn it off,

(17:32):
just plug it, unplugg it literally, So it asked. The
Trump administration plans to defund and shut down two NASA missions,
the Orbiting Carbon Observatories, a two thousand and four satellite
and a twenty nineteen ISS Instrument twenty nineteen. That thing's
basically brand new, the modern carbon dioxide emissions, Plant Health,
and photosynthesis. NASA says the missions are beyond their prime.

(17:54):
That's Trump's NASA officials, but scientists argue and remain that
they remain the most accurate tools in the world for
tracking greenhouse gases, drought and crop health, and are vital
for climate research and food security. Retired NASA scientist David
cris says that they've yielded major findings, such as the
Amazon rainforest emitting more CO two than it absorbs. Critics,

(18:15):
including climate scientists, call the move extremely short sighted and
part of a broader effort to suppress climate science.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Oh yeah, extremely short sighted is the conservative way, by
the way, I mean, that's yeah, that's been the case
since you know.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, talked about near sighted and far sighted. Now we're
talking about Republicans, which are short sighted.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
So, advocates are seeking foreign partners or private donors to
keep the instruments running, but the free flying satellite may
be de orbited, and legal barriers complicate international control. Experts
warned that losing these missions would cripple vital climate monitoring.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
You know, we need a warmer, more dangerous planet. That's
what we need, you know, because why why live peacefully
in a you know, in a cool environment. Why not
mad max it, you know, why not in everything's desert
and we fight over gasoline. I feel like that's what
we need, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I mean, you know what I'm gonna say, and I
don't even want to say it because I'm too depressed
and I don't want to make jokes. But it might
not be a joke anymore. They might be lizard people.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, they're sick of the heat lamps and terrariums that
they have to sleep in at night. They want the
world to be their terrarium.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I know.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
They are the reverse vampires. Instead of going into a
dark coffin at night, they go into a well lit
heat lamp hot rock. Yeah, they just if you can't
see Ted Cruz on a hot rock eating flies, then
you can't see, then you have no mind, because it's
the easiest thing to imagine in the world.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean, these guys, especially Ted Cruz. If Ted
cruz skin doesn't fit him, you know, it's not like
he was morbally a base lost weight in his loose
skin it's he just doesn't have skin that fits him,
and I'm like, I feel like he needs a better suit.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's along that same theme. Donald Trump's EPA is terminating
seven billion dollars in grants that help low and middle
class families purchase solar panels. According to the AP, the
Environmental Protection Agency on Thursday terminated a seven billion dollar

(20:36):
grant program intended to help pay for residential solar projects
for more than nine hundred thousand lower income US households
in the latest Trump administration move hindering the nation's shift
to cleaner energy. See the weirdest thing about that is
the Environmental Protection Agency. When you hear that, we've been

(20:57):
primed to hear. The Environmental Protection Agency is implementing new
regulations that will limit carbon gases that will help people
buy solar panels that will no Under trumpets, the Environmental
Protection Agency is crashing a set a carbon satellite into
the atmosphere, getting rid of solar panels, and drill baby, drillith,
which I believe is the biblical command they are following.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Now, yeah, that was. It's also sending flyers anyone with
solar panels that just read you gay. That's so weird, man,
Why are they doing this stuff? I mean, in this field,
they always talk about how politicians are are in the
pocket of big oil and stuff, but this doesn't is

(21:40):
how are the conspiracy theorist people not saying this is
the most illuminati big oil move ever getting rid of
clean energy? You know, like I thought this was their
mo I thought they love this shit.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
You're reading my mind, Travis, because they can. Yeah, they
can't see the exact straight line. I think we talked
about this last week. You don't have to connect any dots.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, it going line.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Donates money to the Republican Party. Republican Party denies climate change,
which is being fueled by the fossil fuel industry. Yeah,
and then of course screwed. I mean, as you know,
I'm not optimistic about getting out of fascism. I'm not
optimistic about getting out of climate change.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Like no, I mean this set suspect cutting this much science.
We're going to talk about another science thing that's being
cut this week. I feel like so much science is
being cut and so much progress is being cut that
we're not set back like another administration, like say we
do get a Democrat in for eight years, they will
just they will not have the time to repair all

(22:47):
the damage that has been done just this week, let alone,
no chance over the last six months. It'll take twenty
thirty years. The Department of Education.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Alone would take ten years to rebuild. I mean, just
one administration of normalcy ain't gonna do it. And by
the way, another thing, I'm not optimistic about that they'll
ever be another administration.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, they'll just be.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
We'll get into the Jerry mander off, or as I
like to call it, the Epstein mander off that they're having.
We're just gonna have a cheat off. Donald Trump has
decided we'll just have a cheat off, and I mean,
god damn it, maybe we should just get.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Into that now. But here's my theory.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
In case anyone is living under a hot rock with
Ted Cruz sitting on it eating flies and is unaware,
the whole story goes like this. Donald Trump called Greg
Abbott this according to reporting I was reading, and said,
I want you to redistrict five years ahead of schedule.
Texas is supposed to redistrict in twenty thirty, so it's

(23:50):
five years ahead of schedule. That would require that the
Texas legislator go back into session and vote on it.
Republicans have a super majority in Texas, So if that's
what they really want, greg Abbott, to his kind of credit,
apparently pushed back and was like, this is a really
bad idea, and Trump was like, I don't care, do
it do it anyway, of course, because I want five

(24:11):
extra Republican seats because they can. They think they can
pull five extra Republican seats out of Texas. And where
do you think that?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
What?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
What?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
What ethnic? What demographic? Demo democrat? What word demographic demographic?
Do you think that they're going to chop up districts
and make them so that they're powerless in order to
create more Republican Is it white people, middle class white people. No,
they're going to disenfranchise working class and brown communities in

(24:48):
order to create five more seats for the Republicans. So, uh,
we know. Gavin Newsom said, if you do that, I'll
do the same California, and we're moving ahead with that. California.
It's not so simple as just a single legislator a
legislative move at the state level, but rather it would
have to go on to the ballot in November here

(25:09):
in California and he is making moves to make that happen.
Now other states are jumping in and saying we'll do
it too. It's just a cheat off. It's just a
cheat off, to which I say to you, Travis Cliburn
plays into Trump's hand either way. So if we have
a cheat off, and at the end of the day,
the Republicans cheated more, they got more seats, they keep
the House, they keep the Senate. Trump is happy if

(25:34):
we have a cheat off and the Democrats cheat better,
and that we get more seats out of it, or
whatever happens. Even if it's legit and the Democrats get
more votes and hence take the House. In the Senate
bat with all that jerry mandering and redistricting, Trump goes invalid.
It was a cheat off. It was all cheating. The
whole thing was rigged, even though he it was his
idea and everyone rigged it. If we do this, it

(25:57):
gives him an opportunity to say, doesn't out and uh,
I am ordering Mike Johnson to not seat those elected
representatives state House.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Now do you think he would have any kind of
power to actually do that or is it just something
some sort of media stunt He would pull because I
feel like the.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Thing that he doesn't have power to do has he
not done.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
That is a very good point. That is a great point, Virgilio.
I don't know, oh, I mean, I guess that begs
the question and why, I figure how authoritarian everything is becoming.
It's like, even if they don't do a cheat off,
why what stops him from just saying that shit? Anyway?
But like I wasn't that wasn't the whole thing. It

(26:46):
was both California and Illinois are using like trying to
like like using the whole thing. If Texas goes through
with the redistricting, the early redistricting, that they would then
would be like a dead man switch essentially, and then
they would redistrict automatically or move to redistrict. But they

(27:06):
won't do it if Texas doesn't do it.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, something like that. Look, the whole thing's a mess.
Just don't do it, Texas. It's apparently jerry mandering was
something where there was kind of a truce between the
Republicans and the Democrats, according to some stuff I was reading,
where like let's well, I mean, for one, there's the
Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty four, which said certain

(27:30):
states which had terrible, terrible track records with redistricting and
disenfranchising black and Latino voters. Where this In nineteen sixty
four we place the Voting Rights Act, which said that
certain states had to get their redistricting approved at a
federal level. They couldn't just do it anymore. We don't
trust you, And the Supreme Court rolled that back. I said, Ah,

(27:52):
America's not a prejudice country anymore.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Right, Yeah, Being Shapiro told me racism doesn't exist, and
I listened.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
So, but just to be clear, this is how how
extreme it has gotten now. So Senator John Cornyn of
the f of Texas says the FBI, Donald Trump's FBI,
Donald Trump's Justice Department, has granted his request to help
find absent Texas Democrats. The FBI is now involved in this, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
So so the ABI is going to hunt them down? Yeah,
and do what dragged me back. Quote.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I am proud to announce that Director Cash Pttel has
approved my request for the FBI to assist state and
local law enforcement in locating runaway Texas House Democrats. Okay,
I guess maybe we didn't quite make that clear. So
in order to fight. What's happening in Texas, And I'm
sure everybody knows this, but because there's a super majority
in Texas of Republicans, the only power left that the

(29:00):
Democrats had was in order to have a quorum, that
is to say, in order to take a vote, you
have to have a quorum, which means a certain number
of representatives have to be present, or you don't have
a quorum and you can't have a vote. They all
took off, they left the state in order to keep
them from having a quorum. They don't have a quorum,
they can't take a vote. So now they're sending cash Patel,

(29:21):
a reputable cash, gonna burn in hell Patel for what
he's fucking done to this country.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah yeah, Cash, it looks like he always saw a
ghost Patel. So this is a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
This is a nightmare. The midterms are shaping.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Up to be a nightmare. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
And as.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, just a cheat off, just a shit show. And
again it's done. That's a year and a half away,
right or more? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well I think just about a year and a half. No, no,
no more a year and a couple months. That would
be member of next year, so that the actual election happens.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I forget sometimes that we that it's has it been
six months yet the Trump's been in office. I don't
know where I am. Yeah, it has.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Where it's six No, we're closing the twentieth will make seven. Okay,
this time makes seven months. It feels like seven years.
We've been doing this fucking podcast together and we've just
been doing it week by week, try to.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
But so who knows what's going to happen in a year.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Here's the thought I was having just last night. Again,
this has to do with my lack of optimism.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
The Civil War. If you read the newspapers of the
era and you study the era, people were talking that
a civil war was coming for a decade. For a decade, Yeah,
you know, the Missouri Compromise, Bleeding Kansas, which many people
think was the actual start of the violence in the

(31:07):
Civil War. Bleeding Kansas was when, you know, because as
new states were coming into the Union, the question was
slave or free? Slave or free And with Kansas, when
Kansas wanted to come into the Union, we said, we'll
let them decide.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
And the way.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
They decided was they fucking killed each other.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, that's where John Brown who did Harper's Ferry. The
raid at Harper's Ferry, that's where his his militancy and
his gorilla group had their first their first you know,
violent whatever moments was during Bleeding Kansas. In Kansas, they

(31:54):
for whatever reason, I think it was long No, No,
that's the Nazis. Although what's the damn difference?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, say so.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Well, although John Brown interesting character in history, but yeah,
they long swords. They would cut people up with long swords,
I believe, including a Yeah, it was just a shit show.
But Kansas just basically and people were coming into Kansas
from other states pretending to be locals from Kansas so
they could vote on these things like to make it
slave or free. You know, it just was a nightmare.

(32:24):
But my only point is I guess that people saw
it on the horizon for a long time. It wasn't
like Abraham Lincoln gets elected and they're like, holy shit,
we have to have a civil war. They were like,
there's a civil war coming for ten years possibly, I
would say that people were so these things happened slowly.

(32:46):
So the fact that we've been talking about we're gonna
have to have a civil war, and I don't know
what a civil war would look like. There's a gentleman
has a podcast called Behind the Bastards. No, that's his
other podcasts called it could Happen Here where he talks
away about how civil wars happen in other countries. And
then it's not going to be armies on one side
and the other fighting, not like the film Civil War,

(33:07):
which I think was pretty good, but rather militias in
taking over cities and city blocks from block to block.
But who knows what it would look like. My point
is simply the fact that we've been talking about it
for a long time and it hasn't happened yet doesn't
mean it's not going to happen. These things I sort
of I agree, Yeah, I agree, they sort of brew
for a while.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I also feel there was a poll that really that
came out recently. I don't know how reputable it was,
but essentially it said forty seven percent of people who
voted for Donald Trump don't give a shit if he's
even on the Epstein list. So when you've got a
mentality like that, and twenty three refused an answer, so
that means about it sounds like the majority of people

(33:51):
that were polled who were MAGA or Republican don't give
a shit, which means that there's an ideology that's like
bled into their bone es right now, you know, that
is so entrenched in them that they can't let it
go no matter what. And that's the kind of shit
that starts wars. That's the kind of ideology that like
they just they no matter what happens, they will never

(34:13):
be able to let it go.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, And then you take into account that people are
kind of getting loud and proud about being anti democratic,
anti democracy, the.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Curtis Jarvin the dark dark Enlightenment bullshit. Yeah, yeah, that's photocracy. Yeah,
And that's not the that's the people that are the
scariest to me. Like the fucking redneck guy I grew
up with and went to school with who's an HVAC technician,
doesn't scare me all that much, even though he does
have an arsenal in his home, But he doesn't scare

(34:46):
me that. But he doesn't scare me as much as
the Curtis Jarvin followers, the Peter Thiel's, the people that
are have so much money, so much fucking money, and
in our you know, like an out out in the open,
Illuminati essentially.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
And the fact of the matter is that when it
comes to the Last Civil War, they're still on the
side of the traders. And that gets me to my
next story. Moving along but at the same time barely
moving along. Yeah, Pete Hegseth a professional douchebag fens returning

(35:26):
Confederate monument mooved by quote woke lemmings to Arlington National Secretary.
Defense Secretary Pete heggs hath backed up his decision to
return a Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery removed by
quote the woke lemmings who have e raised Confederate symbols
from American culture.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Woke lemmings. Fuck off, woke lemmings.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So let's talk about this monument real quick that they're
returning to And let me let me actually say this
before we even get into that Arlington National Cemetery. Do
you know what what that location is?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I actually didn't know this until I saw your TikTok
about it, so please enlighten everyone. I thought this was
a fascinating It.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Is General Lee's old plantation.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I mean burn sick Burn.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
That is where General Lee lived and it was sort
of a screw you to him that we started burying
Union dead on his land, and we're like, you're never
getting this plantation back. It's we're turning it into a
national cemetery. So Arlington National Cemetery kind of is a
fuck you to the Confederacy, which I'm all for. There

(36:32):
should be as many fuck us to the racist Trader
uprising as are possible. But let's talk about this particular
monument in Arlington Cemetery that Pete Hegsath returned international tour
to Arlington National Cemetery. The hollowed ground was commissioned by
the United Daughters of the Confederacy. Well they sound like

(36:54):
a nice group, Yeah, promoted what's up?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I said, they were so upset they took their daddy's
slaves away. Literally what they are. If people didn't know that, yeah,
I saw an interview with Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, they saw an interview with a woman in like
a nineties documentary where she said, I don't understand it.
If somebody wants to be a slave, why can't they
just be a slave? Why are you making it illegal?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
That's straight out of the Daughters of Confederacy, Like they
fully promoted that stuff. That's why the South is brain
broken to this day.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah and yeah, so they the daughters of the Confederacy
are were the ones who promoted the lost Cause narrative,
which is Look, this is complex and a deep dive
would be super fun and maybe that could be an
episode that we have in the future. But the traitorous
racist Southern states were basically allowed to rewrite history. It

(37:52):
was about slavery, it was about racism. It wasn't about
states rights or honor or anything like that. All you
have to do is read the Cornerstone each written by
Alexander Stevens, vice President of the Confederacy. I think he
would know what the war was better than anyone. And
in the Cornerstone speech he says, cornerstone of the Confederacy
is slavery and the knowledge that the white man is

(38:13):
superior to the black man.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
That's what he.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Said was the cornerstone of the Confederacy. So take your
state's rights and shove them up your state's ass.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Fucks you know what. My favorite response, I can't take
credit for this because I saw a guy do it
on TikTok. I appreciated it so much. Someone said the
classic it's about states rights, and then he went states'
rights to do what. Yeah, such a simple thing to do.
But he was like, oh well, it was like states

(38:44):
rights to do what. It was very calm about it.
And the guys, I'm fucking not to do, you know,
lots of stuff, and I'm like, maybe to keep people,
wasn't that one?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
There it is?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah there, And we'll get to Epstein later. But Donald
Trump just this week said they stole my people. Wait,
I'm sorry they did. What Now were they your property?
That said, so I've seen it said before, but I
love it. That's like, the only Confederate flag that we
should be remembered is the white flag of Surrender. That's

(39:19):
the flag. That's the Confederate flag. Okay, so lost cause
narrative total. So it was designed by Ezekiel, Moses Ezekiel,
a former Confederate soldier. And I did a little deep
dive into that, and what did I find out? Ezekiel
fought against Union soldiers as part of the Confederate forces.

(39:42):
He was part of the He was a Virginia Military
Institute cadet and fought with the Confederacy in the Battle
of New Market, which actually is a Confederate as a
Civil War buff of sorts I actually don't recall the
Battle of New Market in eighteen sixty four when he
was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
He was wounded.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So to be clear, this monument was built by a
guy or designed by a guy who and I would
have a hard time believing there's any other monument like
this in Arlington Cemetery. A guy who shot at and
possibly killed American soldiers. That's who was commissioned to build

(40:23):
this in our Uh So.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Jesus, that's a raise. Okay, I'm still going your blood
pressure originally, Oh, your blood pressure.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I know my eye's gonna explode. I was told I'm
not allowed to by the way, is gonna go? Bou
hit the camera. The the one of the instructions where
they said don't wash your hair or lift anything over
one hundred pounds for two weeks, and I was like,
so changed nothing about.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
My life, So keep on living. Hell. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
The monument feature is a central female figure and interpreted
as a personification of the South, surrounded by scenes of
Federate soldiers, women, and enslaved African Americans depicted as loyal
to the Confederacy.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
M it's tough. That's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
It was dedicated at a time when segregation was law
in much of the US, and its message of reconciliation
was reconciliation between the whites of the North and the
whites of the South. Had nothing to do with the
reconciliation of the formerly enslaved.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
People's, of course.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
And they call it the Reconciliation Monument now, but that's
actually not the name.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Of it, Travis. What was its original name?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
And where did I put the original name here?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I believe? Uh was it bad? Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Official name Monument to the Confederate Dead. I mean, it
is not about reconciliation.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Fucking Confederate dead, by the way, I mean no.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I got into it with a guy online where he
said like it or not, those were Americans, and I said,
you realize they didn't consider themselves American. They considered the
Confederacy to be a different country. And he said that
he came from a long line of Confederate soldiers, that
they were in his family, and he said, no, they didn't.
I was like, Jesus Christ, you fucking idiot. You don't

(42:42):
even know what the Confederacy was. They considered themselves a
different country.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, they had their own fucking currency. For Christ's sake,
you can still this day, and like they will renovate
these old Southern homes and find under the floorboards during renovations,
like millions of dollars at that time of worthless Confederate money.
Maybe not millions, more like thousands, because you know times
are different, but like they found we would find all
this Confederate money which was just completely worthless because it

(43:10):
was a different country. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
So it's back at Arlington Cemetery.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Now that's tough. M thank you, Pete. You know you're
doing the Lord's work. Mmmm.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Well, there's no shortage of references to slavery in the Bible. Dude,
you have to understand, you have to contextualize it. Slavery
in the Bible wasn't same as slavery nowadayss shut it.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
A thousand percent was and that drives me fucking nuts.
I mean the South used the yeah, like types of
different eugenics that you could kind of pull out of
the Bible about slave rices and all that stuff. They
justified it with the Bible constantly, and you can do
it easily because there's not one point in the Christian
Bible or it ever says don't and slave people people. Yeah,

(44:03):
and then but treat him nice sometimes yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
No, well yeah, but Jesus came and that's old Testament.
And then Jesus came, Oh great, and he clarified. Yep,
so he said definitely slavery's bad. No, no, he said
never do it.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
No.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
In fact, he said, slaves obey your master's Oh yeah,
real chill, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
And like they try to use that it was a
different time, and I was like, well that means it's
not real, you know what I mean. Like, if it
was just the ridiculous fucking way that they behave, then
then it's not They don't know anything. Oh but if
you want to talk about justifying slavery, do you want
to hear Old Donnie Trump and a clip use some

(44:49):
old school, old fashioned logic. Sure, yeah, let's see he
called mean. No, I'm going to start screaming and my
eyes gonna pomp out. All right, Well, be careful about
your ad pressure on this one. It's a minute long.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
I probably shouldn't be drinking coffee right now, but I am.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh no, all right, Well, let's give this a listen.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Back to their country with a pass back in legally,
and we're doing things that are that are very difficult
to do and very complex, but it works really well.
We're sending them back and then they're schooling, they're learning,
they're coming in, they're coming in legally. We have a
lot of that going on, but we're taking care of
our farmers. We can't let our farmers not have anybody.

(45:31):
You know, these are very these people there. You can't
replace them very easily. You know, people that live in
the inner city are not doing that work. They're just
not doing that work. And they've tried. We've tried, everybody tried.
They don't do it. These people do it naturally. Naturally.
I said, what happens if they get it? To a
farmer the other day, what happens if they get a

(45:53):
bad back? He said, they don't get a bad back, sir,
because if they get a bad back, they die. He said,
that's interesting, is it?

Speaker 5 (46:01):
You know?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
In many ways, Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
You're saying some really messed up stuff. So I'm gonna
say my prod.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Stop youdent just somebody and I'm booth going.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Fuck fuck stop stop.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Him just screaming in that man's ear.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, that was insane. I mean, because I'm not such
a nerd. My first thought actually goes to Aristotle that
said some people were naturally slavely slavelike, just so some
folk were just naturally good slaves. But also that was
the belief of the Southerners and people in the inner cities.
You what is that code for? What is that code for?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I mean, who lives in the inner cities In the
mind of an old, rich douchebag, I mean, it's black
people one thousand percent. Well, we tried to let them
do it and they couldn't do it. But these people
they can do it. That's so fuck. They don't get
bad backs.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
They can pick potatoes. I don't know what the hell
strawberries all day, never guess, never bad back.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Which I know is bullshit, because man, dude, I feel
so bad from anybody who has to do any manual
labor at all, especially because by pursuits of the arts,
the only jobs I was ever qualified for because I
didn't go to proper school, were blue collar, manual labor,
fucking jobs that would work during the day. Then try
to do comedy at night, and I know the abuse

(47:27):
it puts on your body, but especially if you are
a like rented out Mexican dude who has to just
stand in front of home depot and be a day laborer.
By the time those guys hit forty, they just they
walk wrong. Their hips are fucked, their back as fucked.
They've got no health insurance. It is fucking brutal. And
he said it, if they have a bad back, they die.

(47:50):
That's so evil.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, that's by what means they don't They're too poor
for insurance and so they don't like if they get
a bad back. Everything about that was so freaking offensive
to me that no words, I think I am flipping out.
I've said it a thousand times before and I'll say
it again, like I shouldn't drink coffee anymore. I should

(48:14):
just read the news because the adrenaline pumps through me.
I get so fucking upset. That was one of the
most disgusting things. And I'm actually surprised that didn't make
bigger news, because.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Did I swear to god, they just some of these things.
I don't know how they fly under the radar, because
that was one of the most horrible fucking things I've
ever heard, And of course it gets only being reported
on by very independent news sources, and I mean, he
called it a CNBC. That's a pretty major news organization,
and they just you know, the man clearly. As we
said before, someone was in the booth trying to get
him to move on. I mean, he really is just

(48:49):
an old racist grandpa at this point, he's just saying
all kinds of horrible shit.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Now I wish he was just an old racist grandpa.
He's the President of the United States and he has.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Total power.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
He's the most powerful president we've ever had because he
doesn't follow the law.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, I mean, which which to be very very old
man papa of him. You know, that's very Southern grandpa,
like I'll do whatever the hell I won't and that's that's,
you know, the kind of grandpa I grew up with.
But he's.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Doing a south Park voice. So I'll just jump ahead
to my uh my south Park story. I know you're
a fan.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
I hadn't watched it in years, and I'm back, baby.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, I thought this was a little bit interesting. So, uh,
Christine Noan fires back at south Park for mocking her looks.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Christian went on Glenn Beck's podcast and was asked, so,
I didn't see the episode, did you see this latest one.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Uh yeah, basically yeah, that she slowly melts as the
episode goes on because she's had a lot of plastic surgery.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, and her lips are like wow, Like if that
was helium, she would float away. She's so injected. I
mean they are puffed.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
She's up, builed up, she is filled and.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
To what, honest this is an honest question, like what
are the long terms effect of filling your face with
toxins every week?

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Me and my wife have talked about this a lot
because now gen Z girls younger and younger are like,
I mean, to what I'm talking like sixteen year olds.
These people are their parents are letting these sixteen year
old girls get filler, which is nuts because you sixteen,
you don't even know what the fuck your face shape
is going to be. You're not fully grown yet, you
have no idea what's going to fill out, you know

(50:39):
what I mean? And so apparently they've done MRIs of
these women who get tons of filler and men. Don't
get me, a lot of men out there fill in
their faces as well. Don't want to make it a
gender issue, and what will happen is it doesn't dissipate
like they thought they thought, you get filler, it dissipates,
you gotta go back in, you gotta keep getting treatments.

(51:00):
Fucking migrates, and it just moves throughout. That's why you
get these older ladies that you see in LA all
the time, who have fully concreted faces. It's because the
filler is not where they need it to be anymore,
and it's moved back. And that's where you get the
Mara a Lago face they've had, you know, twenty years, fifteen,
twenty years now, filling their face with shit, and it

(51:21):
just moves, and it creates these hard spots and then
you have to overfill to counteract the hard fucking spots,
and it just it's just it's a never anying. Like
once you start, it's like pringles. Once you start, you
just can't stop. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's horrible,
and I please please stop doing it to people anyway

(51:41):
who's lis Please fulfill your face with shit.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
They're choice, they can do what they want. But I
will say that I was talking to somebody at a
comedy show this week, and I realized as we were
talking about just whatever, the future and all this stuff,
that I said, and we were talking about plastic surgery.
I said, turns out Uncanny Valley is the San Fernando Valley.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Every well, oh, dude, the first time I ever saw
any plastic surgery or filler obviously when I first moved
to LA and I remember going into a bank and
seeing a woman who just had turned herself into a catfish.
It was so unfortunate, like puffed up the sides of
her eyes, puffed up her lips, and apparently that's in
you know, everything else plastic. And then the first time

(52:24):
seeing that, and it really does trigger something in your
brain where you're like, oh, like it freaks you out
a little bit, like is.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
That a person? That's Uncanny Valley. It's we are here
in Los Angeles, this is Uncanny Valley. So Christydo went
on Glenn Beck's podcast and was asked about the show,
and she said, quote, it's it's so lazy, so lazy
to make fun of women for how they look. She said,
only liberals and extremists do that. If they want to

(52:51):
criticize my job, go ahead and do that, but clearly
they can't. Yeah, really, Oh, they just picked something that's petty.
So just let me be clear here. I mean, that's
so stupid. Of course, there's plenty to criticize about the
terrible job you're doing, but we're not criticizing your looks.
That we're criticizing what you've done to yourself. And the

(53:15):
analogy I came up with today i read that, I
was like, that's like saying, you know, like if you
make fun of somebody wearing ugly pants, like you know,
and and they go, I can't help my legs. We're
not making fun of your legs. We're making fun of
the pants.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, this is something you did too. Yeah, this is
not your looks. I always agree with that, Like if
something like I see you got a big nose, something
like that, you know, you got weird eyes, you can't
help it. I think it's fucking mean, it's cruel if
you make fun of somebody for something they just can't help.
But if you have filled yourself with plaster of Paris
or whatever the fuck they're like, over and over and

(53:51):
over again, and also cake yourself with all kinds of
layers of stuff to make you look like a human
even though you might be a lizard, then we can
make fun of you because it's not your lips anymore.
You don't even look like that.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, now that I think of it, now that you
said it, Travis, what are lizard lips? When somebody says
they got lizard lips, then little lips. What do you
need to do with lizard lips to look human?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Fucking blow them up? Blow them up? I mean dots.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
They're all connecting.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
The heat the lips. It all makes.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Sense, okay, speaking of filling yourself with something, Uh, you
go with uh? And I know you saw this story
as well.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I can't do an RFK yet, but public health experts
are debated by RFK Junior's defunding of m r NA
vaccine research. The Trumpdministration is canceling almost five hundred million
dollars in contracts to develop m r NA vac vaccines
to protect the US against future viral threats.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yep, And I do have a cli if you instead
of an impression, if you want to just hear from
you what hear?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
No will I will I try and tolerate to hear.
Let me hold my eye in while you play this
because it might just pop out, all.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Right, hold it tight.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH
and FDA. AHHS has determine that mRNA technology poses more
risks than benefits for these respiratory viruses. That's why, after
extensive review, BARTA has begun the process of terminating these
twenty two contracts totaling just under five hundred million dollars.

(55:44):
To replace the troubled mRNA programs, we're prioritizing the development
of the safer, broader vaccine strategies like whole virus vaccines
and novel platforms that don't collapse one virus's mutape. Let
me be absolutely clear, as supports save effective vaccines for
every American who wants them. That's why we're moving beyond

(56:07):
the limitations of mRNA for respiratory viruses and investing in
better solutions.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Is of garbage. A let me just point out that
that was so misleading. So if you go into AHHS
and you fire all the real experts on vaccines, the
people who are actual experts, and you bring in a
bunch of fucking hack witch doctors and then you los
all the experts, then it means nothing when you say

(56:36):
the experts at HHS.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
That's the biggest thing I was saying this week. I'm like,
what experts Win said, they changed their mind in six months. Convenient,
fucking convenient because now it fits your particular narrative that
he's been pushing for a really long time. Also, I
know this is an audio podcast, but I'm in that video.
No white person should be whatever color. RFK Junior is

(57:02):
all right, that man is walking melanoma. That is terrifying.
How much time that man spins of the sun or
tanning booths. It's tough, man. So let's be.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Clear, mRNA. Vaccines hold the most promise. They are the
future of vaccines. And not only when he said what
upper respiratory infections, and no, it goes beyond that. In fact,
experts have said, real experts, not the fucking astrologers that
divine this through fucking dowser rods and crystals or whatever

(57:39):
the fuck you did.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Throwing chicken bones on the fund concrete.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
They say that this is where the real potential for
a cure for cancer comes. And by the way, yeah again,
and we'll get into more defunding of universities. But if
this technology is developed in another country and they hold
the patents on it, because government's turned dtionally have to
pay for this research and then once the then it
goes to the private sector. If a foreign country and

(58:08):
a foreign company holds the patents on the cure for cancer,
that's what trillions and trillions of dollars that the United
States is walking away from because the chicken bones said so.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Yeah. Literally so. The n R stands for a.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Messenger, meaning mRNA carries instructions for our bodies to make proteins.
Scientists figured out how to harness that natural process by
making mRNA in a lab. They take a snippet of
that genetic code that carries instructions for making the protein
they want the vaccine to target. Injecting that snippet instructs
the body to become its own mini vaccine factory, making

(58:46):
enough copies of the protein in the immune system to
recognize and react. This is incredible science at work. This
is the march of science. This is progress. He wants
to go, like make America healthy again? When how far back?

Speaker 1 (59:03):
What is again?

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Just like make America great again? When is the again
make America healthy again? Seventeen seventy six?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Like when you'd have twelve kids because you knew six
of them would die from the rickets.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
And the vaccine for smallpox was to literally open a
puss of smallpox on somebody and then cut somebody else
with it and shove the pus into them. Is that
what we're going back to? And is also does that
explain you, RFK, Is that what happened?

Speaker 1 (59:35):
He is he is an open pustule from smallpox. Is
it's wild? Yeah, he absolutely is. It is. It is
wild that like in every office it seems like they
just have nothing but sickophans and people that agree with him,
and they can actually sing insane statements like the experts agree.

(59:59):
It's tough. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
So we talked about how Columbia University capitulated to the
Trump administration. We thought Harvard was standard strong and then
they capitulated while breaking. Today, the Trump administration is seeking
a one billion dollar settlement from the University of California,
Los Angeles. CNN has exclusively learned, making the latest effort

(01:00:24):
by the White House to shape higher education and extract
significant concessions from universities. Last week, the Trump administgation began
freezing millions in funding to UCLA, with the school's chancellor,
Julio Frank saying in a letter to the university community
this week that five hundred and eighty four million is
suspended and at risk, warning a devastating consequences to its

(01:00:48):
research mission. Jesus these this is where the cures for
the diseases you maga, hat wearings, scooter writing, dorito, chompin,
big mac sucking down people are going to meet. Do
you understand that it is cutting off your nose despite

(01:01:12):
your face?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Yeah, this one was tough, man, the him cutting five
hundred thousand dollars and then hearing this the how much
how much research has been cut medically? Again, I said
it earlier, like this is not setting us back a
few years, This is setting us back to the stone
age medically, like we've went.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
All I was gonna say was like, Okay, at least
I get the climate denial. Fossil fuel companies.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Yeah, that's pretty obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Making profits, they don't want to walk away from their profits. Why.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
You'd think that over the course of one hundred and
twenty years or whatever, that these companies have been around,
that the ten trillion dollars they made was enough and
they could go it was a good run.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
But no, read whatever it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Is, Lisa, this one makes no sense to me. This
RFK motherfucker. None of this makes sense to me. Yeah,
unless it is he making money off of it is
just that simple that this anti vaxx fucking grift is
making him and his friends so fucking rich that they're
willing to sacrifice the health of the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I don't know, I feel. I mean, this is what
this is one that I worry isn't uh in any
way financially motivated. It is just completely xelotry. It's just complete.
I mean I've watched the holistic wellness industry, you know,
which that's another thing too. You gotta remember the wellness
industry is becoming enormous. The I mean you see RFK

(01:02:45):
Junior puts, Uh, what's it called that blue shit that
you're supposed to use for people who've suffocated. I can't
remember what it's called. But they're the sub industry you're
talking about. But oh, he works out in blue jeans.
I know that at the gym. So the man is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
He's swim he swims and shit works out in blue jeans.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Oh man. Uh, I'm trying to look this up. Blue stuff, oh,
methylene blue, which is traditionally which by the way is
something that like say someone overdoses or they they lose
all their oxygen. You get someone methylene blue to reoxygenate
their body, and these crazy people are taking it over

(01:03:29):
the counter and there's no regulation to this. It's not
even sure if they could be injecting blue kool aid
for all they know, into these drinks. So this could
literally be if you want to think about it from
a financial perspective, all big supplement I mean supplements have
gotten out of fucking control big over the last few years,

(01:03:50):
and you know, like now they're like it could it
could only be a matter of time before the CDC.
It's like, oh, take fucking colloidal silver if you're if
you got a cold now and stuff, you know, these.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Rare earth minerals. I used to listen to a lot
of Alex Jones out of you know, just curiosity because
you're always telling rare earth minerals and whatnot, and it's
just a matter of time before the CDC is like,
we are recommending not just taking rare earth minerals, but
we have a link to Alex to info wars where
you can buy this stuff or but the United States

(01:04:24):
of America announce this week that they're buying five hundred
million dollars worth of rare earth minerals from Alex Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Yeah, not for not for computer parts to put in
your tea in the morning, for no fucking reason. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I'm losing it. So I'm gonna let you play one
of the clips you've come into because I need a minute.
You're probably going to upset me, but I'm looking at
the SPEs I have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
I've got nothing here that won't bus you off, but
at least actually here we go this time is just
looking at my notes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I'm already getting upset, so I need a second. Just
surprise me with something surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Okay, Well, there was a shooting near the CDC today.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
That's what I heard about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
What happened right before we started. A suspect is dead
after shooting at Emery University near the CDC in Atlanta.
And this was I'm not even joking, ten minutes before
we started recording. Wow, if I got on TikTok. So
let's give this a listen.

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
I'm going to read this, so make sure I get
it correct. The law enforcement official tells John Miller that
after speaking with family members, police are operating under the
theory that the shooter either was sick or believe that
he was sick and blame the illness on the COVID vaccine,
So you understand why he may have been targeting the CDC.
That's information that we're getting in. And we've also been
told that people around that area believe they saw that

(01:05:46):
gun being pointed toward that building. That goes along with
the reporting.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Yeah, it cuts off there, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Mean that is exactly that plays exactly into what we
were just talking about. So misinformation leads too crazy people
becoming violent. This is uh, you know, off the top
of my head, this is no different than Pizzagate, Alex
jo and yeah, Alex Jones. You feed people bad information,
they blamed the wrong person, and they they So I

(01:06:15):
mean that's just turning into just abject freaking depression.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Yeah, now I know it. This this is the first
week I think where I really felt I mean, watching
all this stuff go is tough. I mean, this is
just another thing. Sadly, a person who more than likely
had long COVID. A lot of the symptoms that these
people think they got from the vaccine were just long
COVID and then they got the you know, which affected

(01:06:46):
I like thirty percent of people or something like that
or so, something pretty high, and they would just have
long term symptoms that would kind of come and go
because COVID stayed in their blood and even after they
got the vaccine, they had already had interactions with COVID,
and so they would just keep having these symptoms. It's
Jimmy Dore, that douchebag. He he was a person who

(01:07:08):
claimed the vaccine like ruined his neck and all kinds
of stuff, and he was super anti vax and led
into the Rogan becoming more anti vax. And it was
just long covid. It was pretty obvious, like he was
an older man who got covid. It was pretty serious.
It was long covid like it has it. There was
very few every every symptom it seems from the vaccine

(01:07:29):
were all pretty temporary, but long covid was really serious.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I was on a show with Jimmy dr like eight
months ago, and he can't. We were in the green
room and I tried to disappear into the couch, like
I'm not here, I'm not acknowledging that you exist. I'm
not gonna look at you to speak to you, I
will have nothing to do with you, because, if I'm
being honest, there's there's the dummies, and then there's the grifters. Yeah,

(01:07:57):
and the dummies. Maybe we can reach him the grifters.
How do you talk somebody out of a position where
their livelihood livelihood depends on them having it and he's
a grif Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Oh yeah, I feel that way about modern Rogan as well.
I do feel like we've gotten to a point where,
I mean, I know he's not the smartest fucking dude,
and the CTE is probably settling in in his older
age from all these years of kicked in the face professionally,
but like, how much can he really like he's really
still that loss to the sauce, like it really, I

(01:08:31):
really have trouble believing that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Yeah, oh, he's one hour away from accepting Jesus Christ
as as Lord and savior. I've been seeing clips and
clips and clips. They're venturing an inching closer to the
to Jesus camp.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
That has already happened. There was actually an article I
saw where someone said Rogan is now Christian and who
was it? It was a huge one of the douchebags
that he's gone on there all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I heard him saying this stupid line. In order to
believe in science, you have to believe in the biggest
miracle of all that the universe came from nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yes, yeah, see, which is just which is like creation
is bullshit talking points.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
I know, of course, But then but it's what he
followed it up with. He goes, So, as far as
I'm concerned, Jesus makes a hell of a lot more
sense than that, really, Joe, for one, no scientist says
the universe came from nothing. We say when we get
to a certain point at the singularity, at the beginning
of the universe, that we hit a question mark.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Ye, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
But for you to go with Jesus, just let's go
one little step further. And I can't believe you haven't
heard this before. Okay, where did Jesus come from?

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Nothing, No, He's always been there and you know that.
How Yeah, so somebody, all, somebody, a conscious being always
having been there makes more sense than a universe that
we're still trying to understand came into existence due to
forces we don't fully comprehend yet. As we're working on it.

(01:10:06):
You're gonna go with, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
It was a Wesley Huff, who he is the biggest
douchebag I think I've ever seen. Wesley Huff is a
pretty aggressive Christian apologist, literally builds himself as apologist, public speaker,
and teacher. Pretty well. To see someone owning the apologist label,

(01:10:31):
it's usually used to be derogatory.

Speaker 8 (01:10:34):
But.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
They all own it apologist, doesn't you know, it's you know,
it just means defender of It's the Latin root is
not or maybe it's the same as apology, but it
has nothing to do with apology.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Right, Okay, just a defender of the faith, which of
course they are. But he's been Rogan quite a bit
and apparently he claims that Rogan just fucking loves Jesus. Now, dude,
huge fan, But I think he's I think he's a
man who not to fucking derail this whole thing you
talk about Rogan. But I've had a theory for a
long time. He kind of just if you watch every

(01:11:11):
episode he's done, especially the earlier ones, he kind of
just agrees with whatever guest is on in a way
they can. But he doesn't really have his own strict beliefs.
And I think in moving to Texas, he was no
longer at the comedy store with more or less bleaning
comedians who could tell him he's a dumbass when he
said really stupid stuff. And now he's in Texas, he
owns his own club. And you know what happens when

(01:11:31):
people become club owners, People just ah, they tongue them
while you're the best Moneys.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Money.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
The transmit you had was fucking hilarious, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Yeah, that's famous. People run the risk of is being
surrounded by yes men and becoming you know, unconnected, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
And he's beyond. His recent special was a joke. It was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Can I tell you that. The first time I heard
of Joe Rogan was I came across a clip and
it had to do with UFC or something like that
where a guy got up and said, where do I
how do I apply to become the chaplain for the UFC?
Can you type that in and see if you can
find this clip? And Joe Rogan's like, maybe we don't
need a chaplain. Maybe you and he like pointed at

(01:12:19):
the guys. Maybe he said, maybe you should look through you,
Maybe you should smoke some weed and look through a
telescope or something like that. I was like, Oh, this
guy's cool. I imrustrated that and I was like, oh,
who is he? And I kind of looked into it,
and I think that might have been why I listened
to my first ever Joe Rogan podcast was because of
the fact that he was of our ilk and he

(01:12:41):
got it. So how do you get it and then
not get it? I don't know. But then again, Iane Hersey,
ali famous atheist, is now a Christian too, so this
was the first time I ever heard of him. But
what I want to know is how can I become
the UFC chaplain?

Speaker 9 (01:12:54):
UFC chaplain, Well, what if there's Muslims that are fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
What do you want to do for them?

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
That's fine.

Speaker 9 (01:12:59):
What if there's atheists, it's gonna try to convert them.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
I don't think we need a chaplain.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
I trying to convert in. You don't need a chaplain.

Speaker 9 (01:13:06):
I just has every everyone needs a chaplain.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Every sport has it. Sporting air Force.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Well, we're trying to break the trends.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Bro Okay, how do I become the UFC chaplain? Put
all that stuff aside? If you were mean, you really
want to be a chaplain because you landed where you are.
How would I do that?

Speaker 9 (01:13:22):
If I was you a smoke weed and looked through
a microscope and check out subatomic particles, then maybe like
watch some space documentaries.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
I tried that for a lot of years, and I
didn't say, you.

Speaker 9 (01:13:33):
Know, maybe there's some other out there you might not
want to consider. I would I was made, I would email,
I would email the UFC, I would email.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Literally, how it started, how it's going now, How it's
going now, That's how it started. How it's going now?
Is geeus? You know it turns out space or makes
more sense? He started so good and just like Russell Brand,
Just like Russell Brand. Russell Brand's like I've been exploring

(01:14:07):
the deepest thoughts for the last twenty years and I
finally figured it out. Mate. Oh oh what is it?
Oh my god, Russell Brand, this this deep thinker? What
is it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Russell? What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Jesus? Oh fuck you are you serious? Jesus?

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
I mean it's just CosIng up to a group of
people that will forgive them for their shortcomings or you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
No, Rogan has no shortcomings. I mean he does not
like Brand, who has people that accuse him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Is a shortcoming they have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
I'm just saying, Joe Rogan could easily just go through life.
He doesn't have anything to apologize for. He's a comedian,
he's done well. He's a smart enough guy. He doesn't
need Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
He's worth like four hundred million dollars or something like that.
Like he sold his supplement company, which you know should
have been a red flag that he had a supplement company.
But here we are. I don't know, I don't I
don't know what the fuck going on with him, other
than he's such a product of his own environment and
so easily influenced that moving to Texas, all of a sudden,
he believes in Jesus. That's crazy to me, given everything

(01:15:13):
he's ever done and said, But what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
I'll go with the freaking you know whatever. What is
the one where we're all the simulation, we're in a simulation. Yeah,
Like if you went with that, I'd be like, Okay,
you know it's wacky, but it can't be disproven. Jesus, No,
that could be disproven. Yeah, that one could be disproven.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Yeah, that'satlogically so yeah, yeah, definitely logically definitely logically.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Somebody said the other day online they said, like, insulting
my God should be a crime. And I said, which
of the thousands and thousands of gods do you believe in?
Just want to make sure I insult the right one nice,
which I actually I said, what are the thousands of
thousands of gods that man has created? Do you believe
in anyway? That alone should be the death knell for

(01:16:10):
whatever your religion is? Like, oh, everybody came up with
one of these things. It's just something humans do. We
assign agency to the natural world.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Especially how many sects of Christianity the are. That's what
bugs me about Christian nationalism. It's like which variety? I
believe there's globally like almost forty five hundred different types
of Christianity. So it's like which flavor? Which flavor are
you nationalists about? And they're just like the what kind?
And I'm like, oh, okay, I see, I see what's

(01:16:41):
going on? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
All right, more terrible news.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
We'll go with one of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
But you have a clip that I asked you to
grab for this, but this one just blew my mind.
So I know you remember ed Martin, I talked about him.
He was the guy that Donald Trump appointed to a
position that needed Senate confirmation, and then it turned out
that Ed Martin had praised a Nazi. The guy he

(01:17:08):
the guy like an award at one of Trump's golf clubs,
and even the Republicans in the Senate were like, we
cannot confirm this dude. So Trump was like, fine and
gave him a job didn't need confirmation, which was the
weaponization of the Justice System Department of the Justice Department
or something like that. Well, he's hired a new guy

(01:17:29):
for that department. So the guy who praised a Nazi
that the Republicans couldn't confirm because he was too controversial,
has hired yet a new person, and that would be
Jared Wise. Justice Vermin has hired a January sixth rioter
who is seen of encouraging fellow writers to kill the police.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Yeah, let's hear that, kid him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
He is alpha bros. I's alpha male bro fucking douchebags
to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
They've got it. They've got to lower their trts. Man,
that's that's too much. Calm the fuck down. That guy
has been hired by the Justice Department. He he he was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
That particular guy was in the middle of his trial, uh,
because he had been arrested for rioting and entering the
capitol and screaming kill him about the police. And he
was in the middle of his trial when his pardon
came through and they were like, well, trial's over and
now he's working for the Justice Department. And just to
link a few things together, that guy is proof of evolution.

(01:18:48):
All these alpha male dudes, they are fucking you. Ever
seen a silver back guerrilla the way they walk into like,
that's that's you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
You are proof that we share a common ancestor with
our primate cousins because you are closer to that than
the rest of us. Like you literally fucking primal silver
back fucking fuck him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Yeah, just pure in so much pain. Yeah, dude, I'm
about to watch it. It's gonna break through your glasses.
Your brand new readers are gonna be shattered by your
new lens. Well, uh, do you want to be more upset?
We could watch this clip. Let's talk about uh, Glainne

(01:19:32):
Maxwell here is uh. This is Greg Kelly of news Max.
I think wrapping the far right for what's about to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
Yo, blood guilty to that horrible six stuff. But that
doesn't mean that Glainne Maxwell is guilty. And there was
a hell of a lot of evidence out there that
she's innocent and a hell of a lot of evidence
that they railroaded her part of a deep state media
hysterical plot. And I don't like it, and I don't

(01:20:04):
care if it's unpopular. In fact, I'm kind of really
impressed with President Trump right now that he won't be
boxed in when it comes to this story.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
For one, that's Greg Kelly. If I think O a
n or one of these, he's news Max.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Uh, news Max.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Let me let me take that at face value. Let
me calm down and take that at face value. There's
tons of evidence that she's innocent and she was railroaded.
Great like, yeah, present it, please, Greg, put your fucking money.
Oh here I go, Here go the fucking money. Where

(01:20:44):
your mouth is? You fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
My poor eye? You're fucking where's this evidence?

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Give me a break? There's evidence?

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Well it also if there's evidence in you're a newsman
working for news Max, why don't you report the news
because clearly, if you know it's unpopular, then you must
know shit, we don't. And if you're a journalist, then
why don't you tell us the stuff we don't fucking know.
That would be nice. I'd appreciate that because it may

(01:21:16):
maybe we're all wrong and you've done this amazing journalism
and uncovered the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Uh yeah, so fucking tell us. Okay, So let's be
clear about exactly what happens. So Todd Blanche, donald Trump's
personal defense attorney, who is now the Deputy Attorney General
to the United States of America, and every time Donald
Trump goes it's very norma happens all the time. Never
happened for the attorney's Deputy Attorney General does not go

(01:21:42):
to federal prisons and interview federal inmates. Goes to federal
prison interviews Gallaine Maxwell for nine hours, and then Glaiinne
Maxwell gets transferred to a minimum security club fed vacation
spot in Texas where special arrangements had to be made

(01:22:03):
because you cannot be convicted of a sex crime and
sex trafficking and given minimum security prison that is not
for you. That is for white collar criminals.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
It's really what her classifications, not only the sex crime stuff,
but like you could infer that they are violent crimes
and there's not only to be any violent criminals there,
like sex trafficking is a quote unquote violent crime. No,
she should be excluded from this place by every metric.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
But so she has a meeting with him, she gets
to go to a special prison and you know that
pardon's coming. Oh yeah, what Greg Kelly's preparing you for.
And so now it's been leaked. And this is very
interesting because again they're so stupid that even in what
she said to me, this does not exonerate Donald Trump

(01:22:53):
at all. She said the exact quote was because Lady
Maxwell told DOJ Trump never did anything concerning around her.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Okay, I love that, so because that's what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
He's a convicted sex trafficker criminal. So if if she
says so that, if Trump never did anything concerning around her,
that would mean he never did anything honorable or decent
around her. If if you if if a drug dealer
says to you, a you never did anything to concern me, man,
that means he thinks you're a criminal too, that he

(01:23:30):
knows you're in on it and you won't rat him out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
If she was never.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Concerned by Donald Trump's behavior, that means he never did
anything fucking honorable or decent and she was never concerned
he would turn her in. If a convicted perjurer, liar
sex trafficker says you never did anything to concern me,
that's not a that's not exonerating, it's the opposite. It's indicting.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Yeah, there's no Yeah, what's what's your What could possibly
be the bar concern of someone who traffics humans across
state lines into islands for sex? What could what does
concern this woman? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah, again, if I'm a decent person and she thought, wow,
this guy is not in on sex trafficking, I think
he might turn us in.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Yeah, there it is. That's what I was thinking too. Yeah,
if you were a good fucking person.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
So Judy Garrett, former assistant director at the Federal Bureau
of Prisons, told Fox News I intentionally went for a
Fox News article on this one so that nobody could
say that this is biased, left wing fake news. Judy Garrett,
former assistant director at the Federal Bureau of Prison so
Fox News Digital that Maxwell's transfer to FPC Brian is

(01:24:48):
incredibly unusual. Garrett said it is very very rare for
a sex offender to be transferred to a minimum security
facility by FPC Brian, adding that traditionally individuals does deignated
as sex offenders cannot be placed inside a camp. And
it's called a camp, by the way, not a jail.
And here's one last little piece of news because I

(01:25:12):
looked into it, and Camp Brian Brian is a former
military school for rich kids. These are the dog lay
they're staying in. There's no guards. And here's the part
that's concerning inmates at Camp Brian, Texas, which is in

(01:25:33):
the same town as Texas A and M take part
in a puppy raising program with Texas A and M.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Oh no, don't tell Christy no.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
So inmates and college students work on this program together.
So how old time would you have to be to
get into college? Low end?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Low end? If well, I mean, if you could take
college courses, you could tail and get it and probably
when you're sixteen, unless you're a super genius, so you
can get it when you're twelve or something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Sixteen seventeen, sixteen seventeen, Giselene Maxwell is being given access
to sixteen and seventeen year old girls again as we speak.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Oh yeah, lovely, you know, uh, this tough. Pardon is coming. Oh,
it's gotta be. That's that's what That's what Greg Kelly
was prepping us for. Most They're trying to smooth it
over with us.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Yeah, of course not with the lunatics. Yeah, be like, actually,
I don't think that this whole time. You know, maybe
she was framed, you know, Biden was that she was
charged under Biden. I'm sorry, I do this accent every time.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
All these I know, well, he deserves a Southern accent.
We have not been kind to Southerners this episode already.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, their hair an inch we've shared on it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yeah, yeah, But I was thinking about this. It's like, hey,
rich people who hang out at mar A Lago, does
it ever occur to you that that is a crime scene?
Like when you go to the Spa, do you ever
think to yourself, this place has really creepy vibes, Like

(01:27:22):
this is where Jeffrey Epstein was recruiting girls that he
would commit unspeakable crimes against from here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
It all happened here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Like when terrible things happen in other buildings, we tear
them down. When there's a mass shooting at a school,
they just tear it down.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Mar A Lago should be.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Raised to the ground, not raised up and treated like
whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Yeah, it's the fact that it's still I mean, if
you gotta, I mean, you gotta figure though, if all
that stuff was going on there, a lot of the
people who are a part of whatever club uh have
their membership for Mario Lago probably took part in a
lot of horrible stuff because he could be pretty wealthy
to go to that place. They don't let the filthy
pores in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
No, no, they don't. That's just about it for me.
I will point out that, you know what, I forget it.
I eye can't take anymore. I will uh, I will
allow you to take over at this point with your
with your stories, and we'll close it out with you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Sir. Well, let's let's play a clip to close out
the Epstein Island segment real fast, and then I want
to play one more and talk about something that's going
on at the White House currently. But here is young
Donnie Trump, not that young, but younger than he is
now on David Letterman, and he is talking. This is

(01:28:51):
just a character. I'm trying to portray his character here.
He's defending Mike Tyson who is curly in jail found
guilty for rape. Here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:29:01):
Mike Tyson was greeted at his door at one o'clock
in the morning by a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
He then, well, we don't we don't need to go
through the case again.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
I'm just ridiculous.

Speaker 8 (01:29:09):
The woman was dancing at eight o'clock and this guy's
in jail for six years. I don't understand it. I
think it's wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
I think yeah, but prevailed so that he became.

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
The worst defense lawyers I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
So what you're saying is that celebrities maybe should be
treated differently than people.

Speaker 8 (01:29:25):
And I say, Mike should serve some time and everything else,
But to keep a man, he's a woman that was
dancing at his door at one o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Don't need to get into this, he hey, don't get
me hot, Okay, you know, I'm only kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
I mean, he couldn't wrap his head around the fact
that a woman would not want to who that could
could go out and dance and then.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
And then not want to be raped?

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Or dance you want to be raped?

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Yeah? Yeah. That's basically what he was saying. That she
was out there, she wanted it, she was willing that
that puts you. And that's the mentality this man has
had for a long fucking time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Grab him by the pussy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Yeah, they let you do. No means yes. That was
literally a mentality.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Amongst old school dudes at a time when they say no,
they really mean yes. You just keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
The sleazy salesman, the narcissist. I mean, he's he's all
of those things. Like it's still crazy to me sometimes
when I think about him being president, like existentially, because
it's like he has what it shows you how little
people know about really anything. Because I always knew him
to be a pervert, a creep, and you know, a
kind of a used car salesman type of person. I

(01:30:40):
knew that since I was a child, and so when
he started running for president, that's why he was a
fucking joke back in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, or whenever
he was leading the birth or movement, like when Obama
was president. So to this day, I still I sometimes
we're too in it now to fucking be that existential
about it. But when you really what I really think
of about it, I'm like, how the fuck did this happen?

(01:31:03):
So fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
I made a huge mistake online if I saw a
picture of Donald Trump and Michael Jackson together and apparently
they hung out a number of times together, and I
made the joke that I posted the picture and I said,
this is what a non compete agreement looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
It's very good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
But I forgot when making that joke that Michael Jackson
also has lunatic fans who will attack you online. Oh yeah,
Michael and the Jacko, the Jacko wackos came after me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
As well, Michael Jackson supporters out there. Damn you know
what you take the boys, I take the girls.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
It reminded me The Godfather, where there's a scene where Salazzo,
huge Godfather fan, wants to get into the drug business
and he goes to Marlon Brando don Corleone and wants
his blessing, and he actually wants his money to start
a business, and Michael Corleone says, you know, I mean
not Michael don Corleone says, you know, I'm not going
to give you money, but as long as our two

(01:32:15):
businesses and I wish you luck with your new business,
and as long as they don't compete with each other.
And that's what that was.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
You know, I wish you luck with your little.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Boys, and as long as you wish, you do as
I always say, it's so ironic that the mafia boss
in charge of the United States is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Already named don I mean, yeah, the King Donny Trump. Well,
since the man, you know, he loves the party. We
all know that. You know, he already laid down some
concrete to were out all the roses. But that's an outdoor.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Ballroom.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
Couldn't have that patio. It's a patio. Who wants a patio?
White house needed a patio, yep. Which, by the way,
Rose Garden. That shows you like that shows you to
your to the core. That white trash has nothing to
do with financial status, like it has everything to do
with the mentality. It's like, I need to be able
a porch on this bitch. What are we going to

(01:33:15):
not be outside?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Got a patio? Where are we going to serve our
ambrosia salad? Damn it?

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Build a dick in an above ground pool all handle.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
I mean, we are talking about a billionaire that loves McDonald's,
like loves Big Max.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Oh yeah, it's it's it's in the DNA.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Yeah, eat steaks. Well done with ketchup.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure that his father made
his money by being a ruthless psychopath and buying up
as much land as humanly possible. Uh, but still was trash.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
So he's building a ballroom here, Let's listen to Carolyn
Levitt real fast before we go explain why, what's going on,
why they need to do it.

Speaker 10 (01:33:58):
We are proud to announce that construction of the new
White House Ballroom will begin. The White House State Ballroom
will be a much needed and exquisite edition of approximately
ninety thousand total square feet of innately designed and carefully
crafted space with aceeded capacity of six hundred and fifty people,
which is a significant increase from the two hundred person

(01:34:21):
seated capacity in the East Room of the White House.
In recent weeks, President Trump has held several meetings with
members of the White House staff, the National Park Service,
the White House Military Office, and the United States Secret
Service to discuss design features. In planning, President Trump has
chosen McCreary Architects as the lead architect, which is well

(01:34:41):
known for their classical architectural design and based right here
in our nation's capital. The construction team will be headed
by clerk Construction and the eight engineering team will be
led by ACoM. The project will begin in September twenty
twenty five, and it is expected to be completed law
before the end of President Trump's term. President Trump and

(01:35:03):
other donors have generously committed to donating the funds necessary
to build this approximately two hundred million dollars structure. The
United States' Secret Service will provide the necessary security enhancements
and modifications. The site of the new ballroom will be
where the small, heavily changed and reconstructed East Wing currently sits.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
So they say that it'll be funded by private donors, right,
I feel like I've seen a few people get that wrong.
They've been talking about this tax payer money, but what
they're missing is it doesn't even matter if it is
funded privately, which I kind of don't believe that the
amount of extra taxpayer money that will go into Secret

(01:35:47):
Service and all kinds of logistics and all kinds of
things like that will increase the White House budget. And
by the way, I thought this was like, I don't
know where they were going to build this. I couldn't picture.
And they've finally been releasing pictures this week of what
the White House is going to look like when this
thing is done, and it's the iconic you see the
iconic look of the White House and then just a
giant shed looking thing built to the fucking left of it.

(01:36:12):
Like it looks like a giant, like a quadruple wide
trailer that they're gonna tack onto the fucking side of
the White House forever, changing the White House. Yeah, this
is unfucking believable.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
It's disgusting. Several thoughts. Number one, she's starting to look
a little orange herself. What happens to these people they
get near the orange wears off. It's like she was
looking oranges at clip a. Yeah, be like, uh, oh
my god. The limo ride to the ballroom at the
hotel five minutes away from the White House was just

(01:36:47):
too much, just too much. And see this was a
thought I had. I was like, construction, construction noise. Oh
he's just gonna move tomorrow. No, too much.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
That's a really good point. I didn't even think about that. Yeah,
while it's being built, I have to be in mar
A Lago. That's a great fucking point.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
You can't, I mean, construction noise next to a place
of business, important business, mark my words.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
In twenty thirty, when President Trump is somehow still alive
and somehow still the president, marl Lago will be the
new capital. We're moving everything out of DC into Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Crazy Well. Thus concludes Yeah, our final episode of Dogma
Debates Weekly roundup and as we transition into whatever lies ahead.

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Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
I'm looking forward to it.

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(01:39:09):
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(01:39:30):
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I think we'd only know each other for maybe a
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