#826 - Trump Supporter

"Women shouldn't vote." Yep. He really says that. Brandan Jordan, Michael Regilio, and Malik B join David in studio for some serious circus.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
In the household if you're especially if you're married, it
should be one house, one vote.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Worried women should lose.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
The right to go, But what about two gay men
that are marriage and only one of the dudes get
to vote.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is why I'll do.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
One thing I love about David is that you know
that Bible front the back better than someone that says
than they are Christian.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, because I was a Christian when I started reading it,
and then I got through it and I was like,
oh man, yeah, I can be a good person without
all of.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
This, Thank you. Hopefully I have a career.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
That is the reason the podcast exists is it's a
place for comedians to come and talk about some serious shit.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't agree with any of this. All right, welcome
to serious circus. Everybody doing it?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
You guys gooding, all right, so glad everybody's here. Michael Gilio, ladies,
John and everybody knows Michael Brandon. Jordan's back again. Was
on the older versions of mal Be it's your first
time in studio?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Man?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I felt good. I'm sorry. I just got to clap
on myself. Yeah. Is that a theme? Is that a theme?
Every podcast? I also think you're very good looking. I
mean that's like a that's the thing, goes all question.
Oh it's no, not me, not me. That's what the
internet is. But not just the thing. I just you
know what, because who's going to celebrate you better than you?

(01:10):
Because that gives you just in case you having a
bad day, you feel down and you know the world
is at it's peak, it is in and you go home,
you're like, you know you're doing a good job. Yeah,
just compliments.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
You gotta be you gotta be okay with who you
are when you lay down tonight. Right, Why did you
say it like that for the ladies? Okay, gotcha?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Gotcha?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
No, No, I'm happy to be here than thanks. Thanks
for doing it. You're always a blast when anytime we
do shows together. Man, you always kill your killer. You
got a special coming out, Yes, Hulu, you got it
on Hulu.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Congratulations, man, that's Man's that's big. Man, that's big.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
It's it's it's hard to it's so hard to do this.
It's even harder to get enough material that's a material
back to back to even film a special. And then
once you film a special, I know personally, it's even
harder to get. Once it's done and looks good by professionals,
it's hard to get people to review it or to
even want to even look at you or consider you.

(02:11):
And so you've knocked down every one of those. Understand
Kevin Hart's involved.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Hart produces Yeah. September fifth, Yeah Kevin Hart Produced on Hulu.
I am extremely grateful. I cannot show my enough appreciation
for the like you just said, the hard work. A
lot of people don't see the behind the scenes of
what we go through to just try to be in
front of the camera get noted or get seen. So

(02:38):
it was opportunity of presenting itself or yeah, bro, let's
just go ahead shoot your special.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
By the way, that's why this company and this podcast
is called Serious Circus. That's literally what it is. I
asked my wife. I was like, if you had to
pick two words that described me, what would you say?
And she said serious circus Because I we do it
all the time. There's a there's a very serious business
side to this crazy stand of game. And you'll be like, Okay,
do I put the fart porn joke before or after

(03:04):
the kid with braces? Should I say butthole at the
end or at the beginning, and we have these like
scientific formulas we try to break down off of some
of the most ridiculous ship you could imagine. So that's
where serious circuits came from, all the behind the scenes
work that that that it takes to make it in
this business. And so so did you shoot it yourself

(03:25):
and then they picked it up Kevin saw it? Was
it an all things comedy thing? Or did they get
you ahead of time and we want.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
To fund it? Hey, brother, got me ahead of time.
I applaud huge. I applaud men like you to you
did it the reverse. You funded, you got it, you
shot it, and you're shopping it. Yep. I me particularly,
it was like, hey, bro, we had a conversation, put
the money up and I shot it in Vegas. So
that was upfront money here you can do whatever and

(03:54):
the shot.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
So it's got like a record deal, like you got
to deal with a budget and then use that to
shoot it.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
On to three sixty.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Nice man, Nice So you said September September fifth on
Hulu on l You know what I love about Hulu
real quick? Hulu has kind of broke the code on
how they do their ads. What do you mean so
like Netflix, people could just buy no ads, right, go
straight to Netflix. Two b will put your special up,

(04:23):
but it tip sometimes and sometimes they just frontload it
with four or five ads and there's nothing. And then
other times they literally break it up like commercial breaks,
like old school Comedy Central.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It would like be broken up with breaks. Hulu.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
The way they do it is it frontloads with like
two ads maybe three, but then there are no breaks.
But if you pause it, there'll be a graphic ad. Yeah,
that generates revenue. Because most of us don't watch a
special all the way through. You will pose it at
some point, but it's up to the viewer to be like,
I need to take a break, and then there's like
a Charman toilet paper or like a bounty paper tal

(04:58):
ad or whatever, as you pos.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's a wonderful technology. We don't know what route they're
going to go now because Disney brought them out right, No, no, no,
it's it's been that.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
It's been like that, like Roy Woods Junior specials like
that when it came out, yeah, a few months ago. Yeah,
when you paused his that's how I found it. I
was watching Roy special and I paused it and then
an ad came up on the screen. It wasn't a
video ad, It's just a graphic and it's like perfectly
built into the screen. He's still there, everything's paused, but
there's like this side graphic next to him of an
ad and I'm like, man, that's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's what platform? What platform is I let you want
to country on? What platform is it where you can
before the commercial break you can choose which ad you
want to see and you click on it. I think
it might be Prime or Hulda. I don't want your
I don't know. It might be Prime, but it's a
thing where you could just they give you like an
option like Seattle or in the desert or a hotel.

(05:48):
He was like, I played it and it's like fifteen
seconds and the cool you heard.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I remember that back in the day. I think on YouTube,
but I guess they're bringing.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
It back now. It's on TV. I think, bro watch
Prime or who one of the two? Uh? And I
can't remember it's one of those. So what's your special called?
I don't know what. I don't know. You didn't name it. No,
they're gonna name your special.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Yeah, and it's under a month away from getting dropped
and you still don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Wow. Yeah, I just so you didn't see the edit.
You haven't seen a version of it? Have you seen
have you seen it? Yeah? They sent me clips. Yeah,
they send me everything. They send me all the everything. Yeah.
I just I don't know what that meant I would be.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't want to try to put because I think
is it under the heartbeat heart? Is something Kevin Hart
presents to somebody? Isn't it Kevin something?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You know?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I forgot what it's something. So I think it's all
under that same number because it's not just you, it's
a few other people that's under the same thing.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
So is it gonna be a Is it gonna be
like an hour long thing with multiple people or are
you no hour.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Minutes? The whole thirty.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Minute special multiple comedians shot under the same thing that
he shot.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Is it considered like episodic? Is it gonna be like
five episodes?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
No? No, they don't do the episode they do they
do they drop once a month. Oh so you're going
to be the September. Yeah, it's just so son. Congratulations man, Oh,
thank you, that's huge. I appreciate it. Yeah, they asked
me the name and anything. I just I don't know.
I just saw the cut. Just be your name.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Maybe it'll just it'll just say Malik beat I hope
so as much as I need Malick beat it instead
of saying aleak.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Let me tell you, everybody thinks exactly because there's what happened.
Most white people see it and go, I want to
say Malik, and then wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I want to be respected, so I'm gonna say Elik.
And then you're like, it's Malad. This is a sick joke. Yeah, yeah,
so you're doing the viewer. I don't know. I'm be
honest with you. Let's call it a screen that sounds
dark ye special, Yeah that's screeny. Yeah yeah, that's crazy.

(07:55):
You know. I'm very I'm very kind of when it
comes to those things. I'm very I don't want people
looking at me. Yeah, I don't just want to look
at yourself.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
You don't want other YEA.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Perfect perfect because I'm very confined. I'm perfect in my
home with my friends, by myself. Like, wow, that's how
I did on my other Amazon special. And I was like,
all right.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
The only reason I asked you because I was trying
to make sure my invite didn't get lost. I was
trying to make sure we were still. Of course, you.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Brandon Jordan's supports when I ain't know he supported, that's
how much supporting. He's a good guy. And then what
you gotta going on?

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Man?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I got a couple of shows come uh, coming up,
because I'm really in the ground right now working on
building the material because I found my location where I'm
going to shoot my half hour special and so I'm just.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Right now give it up.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
So just right now, still tighten up the material and
getting ready to shoot at the top of the year.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Any politics in your comedy, maybe you do have a
unique twist. Maybe you're in l A. You're a young
black man and you poor Donald Trump. That's that's r
I have. I have a couple of things that I'm
working on. You know what I'm saying in the set
right now. We don't know if it's gonna make it.
You know what I'm saying, it's gonna make the final cut.
But but yeah, but I have some some some politic

(09:13):
Donald Trump jokes that I am working on.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Pro Donald Trump jokes. I've never heard of them. I've
never heard what crazy. Actually, actually I have so you
just now seeing the five, I just I go, I
just hold he just now realized. I just realized. I
thought forty five was like Mark Michael Jordan coming back
and the forty five and forty seven. I was like, oh,
it's literally a Maga hat bro. No, No, he has

(09:37):
it backwards. So it's like all I see is for this. Yeah,
he does have it backwards.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, he's got everything.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Talking about the hat, I just just beyond on me.
I was like, oh, that was like I thought, I
swear to god, I thought it was like forty five
like jordan retirement game, because he did score like forty
seven points. I was like, oh, he represented makes sense
because because if you see from my angle, all I
see is forty five forty seven. And I said like,

(10:03):
oh okay, because maybe yeah, but I don't see what's
salute man? Yeah, okay, thank your truth. Well, well we'll
be well his truth. Yeah it is true. Yeah, we'll
get into something. We'll get into Michael.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
You got a special too. It's crazy. I mean we're
all working on him. What's going on with your drop
in yours?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Amazon?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Mine?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well?

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Uh, it for sale in October for sure.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
On amas Bar.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
No is it for sale on Amazon or no, it's
got I.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Think it's going to stream on Amazon, but it's gonna
be for sale at first. But my story is a
little bit crazy where I was just like Brandon.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I was.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
I worked it up, I hired a venue, I got
a friend who was going to help me pay for it,
and uh, I was going to shoot the whole thing.
And then I woke up one day and there was
an email from a production company saying that they wanted
to shoot my special and I was like, well, that
makes it a hell of.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
A lot easier.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
He called me and he's like, you're off the hook.
You're like, no, somebody else is gonna pay for this
is the best phone.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
I like how his instinct was, oh you quit. I'm like,
you're off the hook. I'm not, but you're finally gonna jump.
You finally got out. Super nice guys Productions, Jack Vaughan,
who produced, Mark Marin, Ali Wong, all them. They signed
me done. War Bar coming out in October. Also half
an hour special. Congress see what happened?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah? That's cool?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Man?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Is it? Can? I? Actually? Well? Is it? Do you
think that comedy now, since we're such like a snapchat
kind of crowd, I think, like, get him in the
first couple of minutes. Do you think that thirty minute
specials are now the new eclips?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
That feels like, yeah, I actually about to say fifteen minutes,
you know, you get a lot. I was about to say, actually,
fifteen minutes, it has been to me, has become more
of a prime thing versus the hour special. You know,
you know, because of the short attention span of yeah
we have today.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
And let's be honest that sometimes even my favorite comics,
the hour long special, I always think some of it
could have gotten cut. Not every special needs to be
an hour long.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, all right, I was gonna turn so my specials
an hour seven shit. The initial time it was an
hour twenty one shot. So the funny thing about it
is I went out and I'll tell you this. Anybody
who's listening who hasn't shot a special yet, here's some
vice for you. The one thing I think I thought,
I'm almost everything. The thing I didn't think of is

(12:24):
I didn't have a clock in the back of the room.
I didn't know I had no idea how much how
long I was on stage, and so when you're in
the zone like that, you've got that many people, plus
the crowd it's primed for, like we're filming. Plus a
lot of them are your fans. They know this is
your night. You know, this is years of material that's
coming together. And so they were. They were hyped for it.
The materials good, they were loving it. But the time

(12:48):
flew for me, and so when I wrapped up, when
I was done, I thought, oh no, I'm probably only
at like thirty five thirty six minutes, and.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I thought this was everything I had.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So I was like, so I started slowing down, and
I started like and you could feel it a little
bit originally you could have you could feel it. And
I was like, oh man, I'm kind of in my
head about it. So I was like, oh, well, I
guess I just have a short special.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Who cares. I'm just gonna go for it.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
And then I finished Strong or whatever, did my closer
and then as soon as I went backstage, the producer
director was like.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh, you kill it.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
And then I was like stop. So I was like
how long was I out there? And the producer was
like hour twenty one minutes. I was like, what the hell.
So if I had had a clock but in the
back of the room, I mean I shot in the round,
so it was a little different. But I could have
had a clock, like up in this window. If I
would have done that, I probably would have would have
would have wrapped around, you know, right at an hour,

(13:41):
but I would have looked up and saw my twelve
minute closer was coming. I'd have been like, oh, I'm
way over time, I'm good, and.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I would have crushed it. I feel like i'd have
had better energy.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
So definitely you'll use use a clock because it's almost
like you're in the zone. You're floating, You're just you're
just what's it called the flow, You're just in it.
It's it's like it's not even real in the moment.
I don't know if you felt that way when you
saw yours, but I was.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I was.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was looking at the clock. I was y yeah, professional, yeah,
you know, but I was. I was in the zone,
but in the flow. I I hate to run a
light or I hate to go over but I'll be
honest with you. We're saying thirty minute specials. I don't
know how they gonna cut it. I got off at
twenty three minutes. Wow, Yeah, I could be honest here.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I got off at twenty three because my closer I
didn't know I was gonna go, you know, I was
on his zone and I was going through my set.
I was okay, got these thirty minutes, but I was cooking,
and then at last the closer hit so hard I
couldn't do a joke Athwarts and I looked at I
was like, all right, my name is man to Bee
and I dipped. But they kind of they didn't say anything.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I mean, for Hulu, that's the beauty of these streaming platforms,
you know. But I'm even back on what y'all were
saying as far as like the instant gratification, the attention span.
My director is brilliant. He directed theo Van's first Netflix special.
He directed John Reeve, He directed Sebastian Menescalco.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Aren't You in Arrist?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
He did Ralphie May Unruly, He did Mark ri Choe.
This dude is just incredible. We, of course, we had disagreements,
you know, because he's the professional editor and director. I'm
the professional comedian, and that's not always the same thing.
And one thing that we differed on is how long
the intro should be. I was like intro joke, like

(15:21):
I don't I want to get them like you said,
I want to get to a media. And the intro
was like a minute twenty minute thirty, and so we
argued about it. We settled on like fifty five seconds
as an intro, and I still it was a compromise,
but I still think that's too long. I'm like, I'm
scaredly gonna be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and fast
forward and he's like, let it, let it sit, man,
don't rush it. And he's got this cinematic viewpoint because

(15:42):
he's also he directed One Tree Hill, he does movies
and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
He's really accomplished.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
And so we just kept button heads over like this
time because I feel like I a TikTok, like I
gotta get you laughing with him four or five seconds
or you're gonna you're gonna change from what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Like like music starts?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Now, music starts, and then I'm walking out and it's
just they're cheering, they're cheering, they're cheering, and then the
the you know, my specials called good White, and so
it comes up Goodwise says David c.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Small.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
He says, good white, and it's just it's just a
long time before I to me, it feels like a
long time before I start telling the joke. But it's
only fifty five seconds. But in this world, like that's
a TikTok. Like tiktoks are minute three, minute six, So
I feel like we need to get something quick, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
So if I say this is a long time ago,
but this was like twenty two thousand and nine, two ten.
A guy I'm you know from Detroit, he uh was
he wanted to shoot basically basically we called like a
special I guess, but he was. He wanted to shoot me,
and it was a couple other comedians in the city
that he wanted to shoot. And so we always supposed

(16:44):
to do like twenty minutes and some someone like that.
I remember, and I'm, you know, at this time, I'm
you know, hype. I said, yeah, I'm gonna do this
and everything this is gonna I'm gonna kill it. We'll
get to the show I'm performing and next time, I know,
all right, everybody have a good night, and I'm like,
how much time I do in eleven minutes?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I was like that was a long time when you're
earliercul I thought was eleven minutes was probably the longest
I ever been on stage life. That's funny. Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
You'll know John Reap. You know who John Reap is
the Yeah. So he's the guy from the Dodge commercials
that would go that thing got a hemmy.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, he's good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
So he was the first comic to take me on
the road. And we were in Fort Worth at Hyenas
and I was club was beautiful, man, So I was.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I was one. Yeah, right into the cheese factory. Yep,
there's a new one in Albuquerque. Now by the way,
they just did Albuquerque.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I'm trying to do a run so and so so
I I uh, I'm in the back of the room
and I'm like, I probably have I don't know. This
is several years ago. I probably had right at twenty
minutes a material that was a material I could probably
have done a half hour, but it would have been
a good half hour. And I had some like B
and see stuff. I was still working out making that

(18:01):
shit saying which we all know in love where the
second best joke starts best joke at your closure that
the worst shit that I was trying was in the middle.
I could have stretched at thirty, but I wasn't confident.
So I'm sitting there and I'm going, I'm standing right
next to him, the host is on stage, and this
is something that I've taken now as a headliner to
give to my features because it just changed my world.
I was like John, I was like, are you gonna

(18:23):
be like in the room or like because in my
head I was like, maybe if I'm if I'm bombing,
I want to bounce at twelve minutes or something. You know,
do I have that privilege to like? Do I have
that flexibility? And I could tell he just kind of
saw it. So he was like, he goes, look, man,
I'm gonna be here the whole time. He goes, If
you ain't feeling it at eight ten minutes, he's like,

(18:43):
just bail and I got you. He goes, I can
feel the time, and he goes, but he goes, if
you're crushing it and you see the light, keep going.
He's like, if you're feeling it, He's like, you know,
if you're doing good or not. If you're doing good,
keep going. He's like, give me some time off.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
And I felt so like it give me chills. I
was like, I'm so relax now because I know that
the bar is low. I know I got ten twelve fifteen.
I'm like, I know I can do that. So I
felt so like confident. I ended up doing a half
hour and it was all hot like because I was
coming up with stuff on the top of my head
and I was like, oh, that joke's doing good. I
was adding tags off the top and then I saw

(19:18):
the light. They flashed it at me once and then
I saw him walk to the back and then the
light went off and I finished out thirty minutes, and
that's what we did the whole weekend, and it just
made me such more of a confident performer a strong writer.
So now any time I'm headlining and someone's like, do
I could you I only got like ten minutes, and
I'm like, do whatever you need to do. You know,
I'll be here and I'll do. I always sit in
the back of the room and I watch, and hell,

(19:38):
I just did an hour twenty one. I know I
can cover the forty five fifty five sixty five minutes
if they need me to.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
So it was it was a.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Big help to me as a headline. But anyway, I
filmed with my special. We're shopping it around, so I'm
gonna send it to you. Makes you hould yeah, no, no,
no no, I'm just gonna give it to you. You
let Kevin watch it. We'll talk late.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
That was one thing I hated about. That's one thing
I hate about comics. Man.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Real you try to tell like it's so hard for
all of us, right, you finally get you finally get
something pop off in your life. So hard you get
that club you've been trying to get, you get passed at,
you know, the improv of the comedy store or something.
You try to tell your friends, there's always one.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's like, who did you talk to? Who got you pack?
Can give me an email to that booker?

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Like?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Can I just can you just be happy for me?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Man?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I worked.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's like you want to cheat off my test, Like
I put hours and days into this and you just.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Want the concept post to show ten DMNs?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Who books that? Who books that? Who's the booker? Can
you give me the info.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
That?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
First of all?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
If I give you that info and you tell them
I gave you that info, I don't get booked anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
So find it your damn self.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
I'm laughing because your story made me think I had
the exact opposite. One of my first big runs. I
was featuring for somebody and they said to me backstage ago,
I'm not feeling great. Is there anybody could stretch tonight?
I said sure, I added one minute, but I brought
him out.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
They were like, that was okay.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Stretched, That's a good thing. That's the thing about that
is that one of the things I've done personally. I
stopped asking that question a lot because I didn't want
to because, like say, for example, me and Matt, that's
me and math is cool. If I went to Mallet
and asked, hey, man, how did you get on something such?
And he tells me, oh, man, uh, it's just anything

(21:25):
outside of you know who the what the answer? Real
answer he is and it made me feel some way.
So I don't even ask some questions because I don't
want to put somebody down cool within the position to
have to tell me a lot or.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
No, wow, that's deep. Ye. I just don't ask.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yes, I just yeah, I don't even ask the question.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I messed with him in the ice house. Uh, in
the dressing room, in the in the in the green room.
I was like, oh, you have to give me your
contact for that. He didn't even laughing.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
He's like Kevin Hart, so it was like he trobably
gets that question a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I was like, I'm fucking with you, man, like, I'm
not trying to get your contact.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Kevin Hart.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Oh, I know you look him up on He's probably
on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Look him up. Is a guy named Kevin on h
A R T. The Heart. Don't put he in there.
You got to work with to meet Kevin? Yeah, exactly.
I honestly, I didn't know. I didn't even know he
had any cop wind to who I was. So they
found you. They found me. That's cool. They found me.

(22:23):
They the guy he introduced, a guy who always is
on the search of social media looking for the new talent.
I forget his name, but he's tall. He had all white,
like a dove and a club. He was like, bro,
this guy right here. And I talked to Spank, I
talked that whole whole crew, the plastica boy. He had
his wife and all their other wives in this section,

(22:46):
and I was we just chopped it up for a
cool thirty minutes. Thirty minutes. I was like, all right, cool,
and I got his number. I never hit him up. Wow,
I never hit him up. It's just on my phone.
I was like, we'll reach out to each other.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I mean, Kevin obviously superstar, right, one of the nicest dudes,
Yeah for sure, Yeah, oh yeah, one of the nicest
and has an incredible memory.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I brought him up.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
He was he was running his running his special or
before he shot, and I brought him up at Haha
of all places. He just happened to pop in and
that place filled up quick, and I walked up and
I said, I was like, I don't want to ask
him how to bring him on stage.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
He's Kevin Hart.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
But I'm like, also, as a host, I feel like
that's my job. So I'm like, should I ask him
just in case he's got something special he wants me
to say to help prime something he whatever. So I
went to the back and I was like, hey, man,
I introduce myself, talked to him for a minute. Then
I was like, all right, do you want me to
bring you up any certain way? And he goes Kevin Hart.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I knew better.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
I knew better, and then I only told my name
that one time, and then he goes out and he
does his whole He does like forty something minutes. I
made like forty five, and then he gets to the
end and he goes, David, how much time I got.
I'm like, I don't know that I would remember the
host name that that long. You know, we met one time.
He'd never seen me before, and then does his whole

(24:05):
set and he's trying to do it for memory. He's
got his notes, but I didn't want to look at him.
So he's like, David, how much time I got? And
I and I said, you're at forty two minutes, and
he goes, oh, because I forgot this, and then he
proceeds to list his notes from memory. He goes, I
did this, and I did this, and I did this,
I did this. He listed every one of his jokes
and he goes, oh, but I forgot this bit. But
then I did this, and then I did this, and

(24:27):
spends like three minutes listing every joke to an applause yeah,
to an applause break.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
The crowd was like.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
The crowd was like, damn, Like he knows his shit,
knows his shit. And then after he finished all that
got into a pause break just by listing his jokes,
went back and added the one joke that he was done,
and then he was at like forty seven, and he
was like, all right, that's what I wanted to be
at for tonight. He's just such a professional. He's yeah,
really classical dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. All right, y'all
want to get into it?

Speaker 2 (24:54):
You ready? Are you ready? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
So what we're gonna do now is a little segment
called news for the fourth lift. Then we're gonna get
into some imposture syndrome stuff that comedians deal with, and
then we're gonna kind of go back to the classic
what this show used to be a little bit of
a debate platform. I understand there is some question on
whether or not women should vote. I understand that that

(25:17):
got thrown around is like something we should probably get
rid of, and apparently our federal government is like considering it,
and some people in very high up places are joining
churches and tweeting out materials suggesting that women should not vote.
And so I don't know that we all agree on
that here at this table, So I want to make
sure we bring that up here in a little bit.
So there's your little teaser for sticking around later.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Are you ready to get into news? Is everybody ready?

Speaker 3 (25:41):
So here's the way the new segment works. There's gonna
be some music playing. Michael, our news guy is gonna
be talking about it, and if you have something you
want to chime in on, feel free to interrupt and
chime in. Other than that's gonna be a pretty quick segment.
All right, all right, all right, everybody ready, all right,
let's get into it.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Let's do it.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
I'm Michael Rgilio. This is news for the fourth listener.
Jennine Piro says, don't press charges against people carrying guns
in DC. Federal agents and National Guard troops patrol the
streets after Trump invokes emergency powers. Reports shows that they're
mostly going after homeless people. Guess it's a crime to
be homeless in DC, but not to carry a long gun.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
US Attorney Janey Pirno. Piro just announced that registered rifle
and shotgun carriers won't face felony charges anymore. They literally
won't be enforcing the laws that are on the books
in DC against carrying those guns. So homeless, you're gone
by morning. Bring your rifle, come right in raises a
question to me, what if you're homeless with a gun?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh right, this is maga. You're dead.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
H Elon Musk, Remember he was talking about a third
party while he is quietly shelving his America Party idea.
Turns out running a car company, a rocket company, and
the social media dumpster fire in a windstorm he calls
already eats up most of his day. The Wall Street
Journal says Musk doesn't want to damage his bromance with
Vice President jd Vance, who he might bankroll for president

(27:10):
in twenty twenty eight. Reports SO are saying Musk's public
response was a blanket to Nile that everything the Wall
Street Journal prints is false, to which I say, got that.
Investor's Wall Street Journal is also reporting that SpaceX and
XAI are doing really well. So, according to Elon, don't
trust that a deer hunter was surprised to spot a

(27:34):
subtropical woodstork flying overhead in Wisconsin. This really happened. Subtropical
in Wisconsin, Yeah, in Wisconsin. Ornithologists say that a subtropical
woods stork spotted in Wisconsin isn't just a bird that
took a wrong turn. Experts are saying that this might
be due to climate change and habitat loss, which is
pushing pushing birds further north. So you might remember Donald

(27:56):
Trump said that windmills are going to be a bunch
of bird cemeteries. Well, it turns out so is climate change.
So the Earth is getting hot. In other nudes, turns
out no ICE isn't just the North Pole's yelp review.
But let's get into another story. ICE officer says liberals
are ruining America During a violent arrest in Washington, d C.

(28:18):
Bystanders called out, you know, you guys are ruining the country.
Right to an ICE officer who responded on camera, liberals
already ruined it. I mean, I think I know how
this dude did on his Trump loyalty test. I'm pretty
sure he failed his constitutional test as well. So Trump
ran on the notion that America is being invaded, which

(28:39):
is very strange to me because America didn't feel like
it was being invaded until Donald Trump started setting.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
At ICE into every city.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
It feels like an occupying force. Now, yeah, it certainly
does so. In other news, but related news, the Department
of Homeland Security has dropped all age limits for ICE recruits.
Previously applicants had to be at least twenty one, a
older than thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Well, now now.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
You only have to be eighteen years old to become
an ICE agent.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Christino up said that change. Hold, Okay, you're supposed.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
To be twenty one to carry a handgun in this country, right,
so you like, you can't even be a cop in
this country to your twenty one because you carry a handgun.
Are these eighteen year old kids going to be carrying.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Handguns with Ice? Yes, and they're going to be federal agents,
so they can be in all fifty states.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yes, even if the military eighteen.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
But you cannot carry a handgun on the street, right.
In military you can carry it on base actually kind
of it than a locker, according to military people.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I know, right, but you're right, but out just in public,
you can't be a cop or carry a handgun into
your twenty one and you're telling me that there will
be federal agents eighteen years old carrying handguns.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yes, I looked it up.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
They are issuing a waiver to these eighteen year olds
in Christian How.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Is that not?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
I mean, what happened to states rights?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
The states have right to say you got to be
twenty one to carry a handgun in this state. But
then the federal government can say, nope, nope, we want
to let right over there.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Pushed back a little bit because there is a distinction.
You're talking about a private citizen carrying a handgun visa
via federal agent.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Sure, two different things.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, but there's you can't They.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Don't literally anyone because you can't carry a handgun right.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
They literally don't have the pre froneral cortex developed in
their brain. They literally do not have the brain matter developed.
It's they are I get that we call them adults.
We all we've all been eighteen. We weren't adults. We
weren't grown grown.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
But only only pushed back from me on that one
is is that I understand that you said, like you said,
but if you eighteen and you can go die in war,
if we was to have one that you need to
go fight in. I don't understand the issue with being
a federation and having.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Because maybe because the agent takes on Americans, so seeing
an American as an enemy, the war thing kind of
falls apart.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Because we don't want.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Federal agents to see US citizens as enemies.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
We don't want them to be a foot soldier out
here there, You're gonna be a fots soldier, gonna be
following orders. You're gonna have older people telling you what
to do on the streets. You're going to be making
decisions on your own with a handgun and be in
hand to hand combat with grown ass people and potentially
have to shoot somebody. I don't feel like eighteen year
old should be making those decisions. It's different than when
you're at war.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah, gun toning mass teenagers with qualified immunity roaming American streets.
I see that something might go wrong, and I also
think that it might be the point, you know what
I mean. It's like these eighteen year old Maclake. I
hate to say it, but you know, everyone says, just
stop comparing everything to the Nazis, But I mean that's
who the SS and the Brown Shirts were. They were

(31:37):
young young men that could be manipulated into the cult
of national socialism to carry out the Agendaca's young men
are easier to manipulate once you have some life experience
and a prefrontal cortex. It's harder to convince somebody these things.
I think it's very dangerous, So rolling with that the
Department of Home Lown Security is rolling out recruitment style,
adds the trench, immigration enforcements in scripture and Chris nationalist imagery.

(32:02):
One video that they have put out paired border patrol
agents with proverbs twenty eight to one. The righteous are
bold as a lion over a Batman soundtrack. Again like
this is all just to entice young men. Critics call
this weaponizing religion, which casts migrants as wicked and officers
as righteous. Okay, so I don't think I need to

(32:24):
tell you guys that combining church and state. I feel
like somewhere it's written that that's bad. Damn tariffs. So
the price dam is about to break. So here's the deal.
Trump slap tariffs on just about everything coming into the country.
Companies tried to hold the line, but the dam is cracking.
Home depots stocked up like a doomsday prepper. But even

(32:45):
they admit price hikes are coming. A Yale budget lab
says that the average family will be out an extra
twenty four hundred dollars this year. Turns out your subscription
to Maga renews automatically with some hidden fees, and when
Walmart raises prices, which they just said they will. You
know what happens, everyone follows suit. Walmart sets the price

(33:05):
pretty much, so they're.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Gonna be shutting down. There all locations that shut down
for sure. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
So Walmart, by the way, has is changing the role
of greed to apologizer when you walk in. And so
this one blows my mind. President Trump is now taking
aim at the Smithsonian on true Social He called out
the institution as quote out of control, accusing it of
focusing too much on how bad slavery was and not

(33:33):
on enough on the success, the brightness, and the future.
He labeled the museum the last remaining segment of woke
and vowed that they must be rained in And just.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Sorry, Michael, are you saying that Trump is saying that
he's upset that the museum is focused on history? Yeah,
and not enough on the future. When you think museum,
are you like? Why is all stuff from the past
in here?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Where's the future? Where's the predictions? The hell is wrong
with this dude?

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Man?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
And isn't he this is the Smithsonian the same one
that he made them go take out or or downplay that.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
He was impeached.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Yes he did, Yes he did. In fact, they had
to add the word alleged.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
He was impeached twice.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, the Smithsonian is a place we could always trust
for historical data. And you're telling me now He's made
them say, well, now it's an alleged impeachment.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
It's not alleged.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
It well, the impeachment is real, but the crimes that
he was accused of. He made them add the word alleged,
And initially they pulled the referenced to impeachment altogether. There
was pushback, and now that they've put it back in,
it is with tamp down change.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
This feels North Korea. It feels dictatory, not even close.
We'll get into it, we'll talk. I can't all right,
I can't wait. Let's get to a good check.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
This isn't just Trump ramting online. He's pulling the legal levers.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
He says.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
He's instructed his attorneys to comb through Smithsonians exhibits using
the same idea logical purge he desployed on universities, targeting
anything deemed as anti American. The White House already ordered
an internal review of eight museums to bring exhibits in
line with quote American exceptionalism, stripped of what the administration
calls quote divisive narratives. I think that might have been

(35:19):
a typo. I think they meant they don't want any
diverse narratives.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
But that's just me. So here we are.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
The president of the United States is trying to micromanage
museum exhibits because in Trump's America, even history has to
pass a loyalty test with Trump. And uh, let's get
onto the final story, which just blew my mind. Pete Hegsyth,
Secretary of Defense in the United States of American. We're
going to get into him later in this episode, but
Pete Hegsyth is about to turn Arlington National Cemetery back

(35:47):
into General Lee's house. In case you didn't know, that
is where the site Arlington Henissary is.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
It is on the former land Robert E.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Lee own Confederate Confederate Roberty.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yes, yes, it was his wife's family's land. He lived
in the plantation there at the Northern Soldiers or the
Union Army started burying their dead there. But anyway, p'd
you just democrat. We'll get into that in a second.
Let me finish his story. I would love to have
that debate. Yes, the Secretard just unveiled a ten million,

(36:18):
two year project to reinstall a Confederate monument that proudly
wraps the lost cause in brins into bronze.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Let's get real.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
The statue depicts enslaved people as graceful sidekicks and loyal
followers of the Confederacy.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Hold on, Danny who stopped at music? Can you read
that line again? I want there to be no music
bad for that?

Speaker 1 (36:38):
It does what.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
It depicts enslaved people as graceful sidekicks and loyal followers
of the Confederacy. The statue itself, which was originally called
a monument to the fallen Confederate dead, so it's now
they're calling it the Unity or the Reconciliation Statue. The
unichs yeah, but well, I mean that is my wording

(37:03):
quite frankly. But it shows a woman depicted as the
South or that is the depiction Confederate soldiers, and then
enslaved people who appear to be looking at them with admiration.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
That is what it is.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
It was removed in two thousand and three as part
of a bipart is an effort called who called it
problematic from top to bottom? So what does Pete Hegsitt
say about it. He said it was quote Lemmings struck again,
and now we're honoring history by putting the statue back.
Meanwhile historians are calling it a pro slavery, anti US monument.

(37:36):
I'm calling it a disgusting piece of shit. So, yes,
in twenty twenty five were replanting a century's old statue
that glorifies slavery and treason. Because nothing says American values
like spending ten million dollars to celebrate white supremacy. So
that is my news. You wanted me to add a story,
and I'm happy to talk about that. Oh you did

(37:57):
you have it?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah? Okay, all right, well then going into your thing
and then I'll ask you about the story. Okay in
their segment.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
My segment ends with and you may face palm.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
Now.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
I'm Michael Rgilio and this has been news.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
For the fourth listener.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Fantastic. Thank you Michael for that research and information. The
one I wanted to wanted you to add was apparently
there was a Democrat that was locked in a capitol
building or something she was not allowed to leave.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Yeah, so in Texas, Republicans decided democracy. But it works
best when it looks like middle school detention. They made
Democrats sign permission slips, literally permission slips, agreeing to be
followed around by state troopers if they wanted to leave
the chamber because they were considered a flight risk, which
because you may remember that they left the state of
Texas in order.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
To stop the vote on the jerry mandering, the racist
jerrymandering that gets rid of five Democratic seats.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
And in order to have the state House.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Essentially trying to he's trying to pre rig the twenty
twenty six mid term by getting five x extra seats
in Texas so they can maintain control.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Under instructions of Donald Trump. Because recording says that Greg
Abbott actually pushed back against Trump initially, like, that's a
really bad idea. We do redistricting every ten every ten years. Yeah,
we're in the middle of the decade. In the middle
of the decade, it's against all the YEP so Democratic wrap.
Nicole Collier said basically no thanks, I'm not a criminal.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
And.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
They literally locked the doors. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
Other Democrats ripped up their their slips that show that
said that they could be followed around in solidarity with her.
People were chanting out.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
She's literally locked in them have you ever heard about this?
She's literally locked inside.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
So she was like she's doing tiktoks and like Instagram
posts like yeah, I'm still locked in here. He's been
twenty four hours. They won't let me leave. I'm like,
call the police. She's like, the police are the ones
keeping me in. The police won't let her do it,
So she went to the bathroom on her laptop I
think maybe it was a phone, and tried to do
a livestream podcast with Corey Booker and Gavin Newsome, and

(40:03):
the police came in the bathroom and said she was
committing a felony by live streaming from the capitol or
something and literally made her like there's footage of it
out there for being live on the podcast and then
having to just shut it down because she's committing a felony.
This feels, this feels this is It's a pretty scary.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
No. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I'm just listening to y'all saying I don't know all
the ins and out. This is the first time I heard.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I mean, is there ever a good time to lock
somebody in a capitol room and not let them?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Absolutely not. But like I said, I don't know all
the details of the story. No, I absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
You know it shouldn't be Yeah, it feels absurd again,
it feels like North Korea feels too.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Do you want to talk about the Confederates for Democrats thing?
Because I'd love to have that conversation if your game,
Oh yeah, we have it.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
We can have it. I want to see it as well. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
So no, it's a long I mean, everybody knows the parties,
which sides.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
That's been a long old I know that he's here.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
Let's start for this. Because party platforms change all the time.
I'm sure you don't want to go back to Eisenhower's
nineteen fifties tax platform, which had corporate taxes at close
to ninety percent. Person Republican Republican right. So platforms change
all the time. So what you look at is not
the party, but the ideology. So you have to ask yourself.
Were the people trying to conserve the institution of slavery

(41:26):
conservative or progressive? Were the people trying to progress away
from it conservative or progressive? So it was a conservative
the conservative v. Progressive dichotomy. And I got it to
tell you the Confederacy were conservative because they were trying
to conserve.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
The old way.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
That is what conservative literally means. And the abolitionists were progressive.
So which is why today the Republicans waive the Republic
the Confederate flag. They're not proud of their Democrat grand pathies.
They're proud of their conservative conservative grand paths, their conservative
bappies who went by the label democrat. That later changed.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
But yeah, well we can go we can go this
route from you know, what I'm saying, as history books stated,
is that in the South during so every time the
Confederate people were Democrats.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Right that they used that label. They used that label,
but as Michael just said, they weren't progressive. They weren't
actually Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
What what I'm getting at is that through the hit,
through the history, before we even get to the fifties,
when you even came to the gym Crow laws, that
was a Democrat, right, yes, so the so the whole
system was started up with the Democrats fighting for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Then after that, as we get into the fifties and sixties,
when uh you're voting for the voting rights and voting
for the UH rights and everything, if it wasn't for
the Republicans none of that would have got passed. The
Republicans is the reason why that stuff got passed. One
more thing, one more thing, one more thing, one more thing.

(43:02):
And also to if I'm saying her name wrong, please
tell me. But uh the what's her name? Margarets?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Say, the the woman that was.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
The face of feminism, the one that started playing parenthood.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, that was all Democrats. That was all Democrats. So
what so so when they say when you say the
party switch, yes, was it a yes? Did it have
some some form of switching at some point in time
through history?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah? But was it a full frontal switch? Not?

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Because because as we even get into today, liberals, especially
the extreme ones on the left are are just like
you have your extreme right people, you know, also to
the extreme ones are some of the some of the
causes of some of the downfalls that were having in
the country.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, let me ask you one question to Michael's point,
why do you see when people wave the Confederate flag today,
it is one hundred percent people who are conservative. There
are zero democrats, zero liberals, zero progressives. People on the
left understand that that flag stood for fighting for the

(44:21):
right to own slaves, period, full stop. So why do
you think conservatives and Trump supporters maga when you look
at January sixth? Why were Why do conservatives consistently wave
the Confederate flag in liberals don't?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I would say, in my opinion, I would say because
a lot of people that that probably will wear that
flag is because there have been trained to. They have
been trained and taught that that the Republican Party was
a Conservatives was the count was the ones that was
waving the flag in the beginning, which they wasn't. I

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think it's just the way that they were taught within
the system that we're living in that you know, because
most people you're growing up and you go to school
and just from what you taught from in a family,
is that always even when I was little, is that
the Republicans were the slave masters. The Republicans are the
bad people against black people. So I think the problem
is the world republican and Democrat. What I would like

(45:20):
to talk about is conservative and liberal.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
So do you think so.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
The people who owned slaves, would you say they were
liberals or conservatives versus the people who were fighting for
the freedom of slave of slavery? Do you think they
were conservatives. They were trying to conserve what was currently happening,
which was slavery, and the liberal progressives were trying to
say they should have their own equal rights, we shouldn't

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own slaves. They went by the word republican, but they
were ultimately progressive in their thinking.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Would you agree? I mean I can agree with that, Yes,
I can agree with that, okay. And today the people
who are progressives and liberal you don't consider yourself one
of them?

Speaker 1 (46:01):
No, No, not at all, because I'm no liberal at all.
Because the things that the things that that the liberals
uh tend to stand on to progress I don't agree with.
And that's that's when it comes to the homosexuality, when
it comes to killing, killing babies. You know what I'm
saying with planned parenthood, them type of things is something

(46:21):
that I just don't agree with. And that's not something
I feel like it's progressive.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Okay, Michael, I just wanted to talk about what you're
talking about in the Civil Rights Act and the Voting
Rights Act.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
So, as you know, LBJ was.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
The one who got those passed, and he was a
Southern Democrat at the time, and when he signed it,
he said we're signing away the Democratic Party. We're signing
we're giving over the South to the Republicans for a generation.
It turned out to be forever. And you're right, Republicans
did vote for both Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act.
But when Republicans say that, that's like, look at us,

(46:53):
we help pass those acts. I always point out if
the Republican Party was so for Civil Rights Act in
the Voting Rights Act, then why in nineteen sixty four
did they run Barry Goldwater on a platform of repeal
the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Right Act. What
happened was all the Southern Democrats who were racists no
longer felt at home in the Democratic Party because of

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the fact they passed both of those acts. And the
Republicans kind of waited, stood there with open's arms and said,
you have a.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Home here, baby, right here.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
And in nineteen sixty four, in order to entice the racists,
they ran on repeal the Civil Rights Act and repeal
the Voting Rights Act. The Republican Party states from paying
foot sea with racists ever since. So there was a
switch and the Democrats, particularly a Southern Democrats, the Dixiecrats
as they were called, at one time super racist. Nobody's

(47:44):
saying they weren't. And there were elements of racism within
the Democratic Party, and you could probably address that.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Right up to today. But the fact of the.

Speaker 8 (47:53):
Metal was the Republicans just one as a president. The
Republican party that has been playing has been playing loose
with racist language and racist the idea of welfare, king
Queen's and bussing and all these things that Republicans have
run on from the seventies and the eighties to today.
It's all coded language to middle class white people.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
And by the way, there's a recording of them saying
that now we're using coded language. You don't want to
say in word inWORD inward. What you say is states rights,
like we have them on tape, saying that you say
states rights and the states get to make the decisions
who gets to And then they're like, okay, so they
don't sound racist because they're not out there screaming the
in word. But when they say states rights, it's a
wink wink, dog whistle. We know what you're talking about,

(48:37):
states rights to do what to treat black people? Like shit, Yeah,
that's what they mean. I say this and this is
the discussion. I have secs when it comes to my
family or friends when we talk about this. One of
the biggest things when it comes to me is the
racism thing. I don't really I don't really have any
pushback when it comes to the racism thing because I

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feel because for me, this is how I feel about it,
is that if you voted for Joe Biden, then you
you don't care about racism because he has his historically.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Has been racist.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
He was one of the ones that was against busting
uh went to introduce into the suburbs when it came
when he's on tape saying it, Yeah, he was.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Forty years before he ran for president.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Sure, Donald Trump has a track record a mile long
up until I don't know, eight minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Read just looking tweets, he was racist.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
But this is my but this is my my That's
my point is that also he was one of the
biggest people when it came to the to the crime
build in the nineties. You know what I'm saying that
hurt the black community. What I'm saying is is that
has Trump has, has Clinton did too, has shown has
shown some ra racist stuff. Of course he has has
Democratic leaders showed some racist stuff. Yeah, so, which was so.

(49:49):
So my point is is that so you're willing to
ignore they're racist stuff, but then but.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
We don't ignore it.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I said, this is where I'm talking to my family. Well,
I'm talking to you will ignore their racist stuff that
has hurt us as a community. But you want to
loud and proud try to denounce his you know, say
anything that you deem is racist. From this way, it
has to be easy. Well hold on, but it's not.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Though you want to call it ship from thirty five,
forty years ago that Joe Biden did. Do you think
he did something in his term that was racist? Did
he do something in the last four years that was racist?
Because this is my problem with conservatives. You go, here's
all the bad stuff about Democrats. See, it's the same,
it's not the same. There are definitely problems with dem
He was.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Running for president. He said, if you don't vote for me,
you're not black.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Uh he didn't say that exactly, but I know, I
know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
That is dumb. Okay, that is dumb.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
But again that Donald Trump literally got sued for not
renting two black people. You don't think that's worse than
a slip up like saying if you don't if you
vote for me, you're not black.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
No, what was worse is sinning Senny black people to
jail for crime offenses twice as longer than any other race.
So and you're being one of the people that's behind
that bill that hurt a lot of community.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
So almost all Democrats supported that, and at the time,
including the Clintons. I don't believe they knew it was
going to do that when they did it.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I really don't.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I really don't, because Democrats thrown Even if you take
out racism altogether and say they're all racists, fuck them right.
Let's say they are Democrats need the black vote. You
know that they wouldn't have done that. They wouldn't have
done that intentionally to hurt the black persons that are
going to vote for them.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Reason why is because they know that no matter what,
the black people are going to vote for Democrat, no
matter what it.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Is, no matter what they're going to vote for on,
no matter what.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
They got you wrong, No, they got me wrong, Butjory,
but majority of black people are going to vote Democrat
no matter what because they have been trained through I
don't know when it switched. I can't tell you exactly
when it switched. But they have been trained to Republicans.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
I don't say they've been trained. I don't think they've
been trained. I think I think history has told us this.
They look peak Head. Pete Headsex, for example, is currently taking,
like he said, the Arlington National Cemetery, changing it back
into Robert E.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Lee's house.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Well, I mean about I'm trying to say he's renamed.
My point in the joke is he's he's changing back
into Robert E. Lee's house, and that they're literally bringing
back Confederate monuments. They're renaming military bases after Confederate generals.

(52:46):
Why aren't liberals doing this? If the Democrats are racist,
why you're supporting a party that is resurrecting statues of
people who wanted to see you as a slave. Brandon
and Pete heg Sath Donald Trump. They are bringing these
people back to the raising their statues and renaming bases
after them. The Liberals are fighting against that. Joe Biden

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was fighting against that. The Democrats fight against that.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Why is it.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Always Republicans that are trying to elevate racist and Democrats
are fighting against it?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I feel like Democrats are going to fight against anything
that that that that especially this administration is going to
put out. If Trump comes out tomorrow and says I'm
going to we're going to give every American one hundred dollars,
they're going to say, oh my god, this is just
the worst thing ever in life, said I'm going I'm

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going to get full circle.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
You're going to go direct there.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
For the record, for the rerect I'm gonna let you
finish for the record. Things like what I'm talking about
right now, about this this military based thing. That's why
black folks support Democrats. It's things like when when when
Republicans are given tax cuts to billionaires and Democrats go, no, no, no,
we need to lower taxes on the middle class. There
are more black folks in the middle class than there
are billionaires. So the black folks understand that piece of it.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
So they I think they have.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I think Democrats liberals in general have earned the black
vote by being more progressive and more respectful to the
black vote. The nineteen sixty four.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I'm gonna explain to you why that's That's not the
reason why I'm gonna explain to you why, but I'm
gonna answer your question first. The reason uh for for me,
I tell you two part two part answer one honestly
is one of the things where I really don't even
care about it because it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
It is not. It doesn't directly affect you about you
don't care about the military basism don't. I'll be honest
with you, I really don't because it's not.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
It doesn't because it's not directly affecting my everyday life
and it's not gonna affect in my way of life
of a military that your.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Tax dollars are supporting a military base named after somebody
who wanted you as a slave.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
No, because I don't want my text dollars being used
to do it, to abort babies, but I have to
live with it, so either so you don't.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Know, don't dollars are ever used.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
They were never, that's been No. That was the issue
with when when when they appealed the uh when when
the judgement he appealed it.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
You know what I'm saying, pilled it back. It was federal.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
It was that federal dollars were used for playing parents
but not.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
Fore sectioned off abortion from the other services.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
From the other budgets. The federal dollars were never used
for the actual abortions.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I think you got that wrong. I think you might
have Tony.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Can you fact check that? Can you check that.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Parenthood used federal funds? And if I'm wrong about that,
I can admit that I'm wrong. But then you'll vote blue,
and then you'll vote blue.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
No, that won't happen.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
But but but that's that's the main thing. But the
reason why I was saying that, it's not that's not
the reason why black people vote Democrats because you literally
can go to you can go to any Poland and
you can pick out any eighteen nineteen year old black
person is voting. They have no clue what they're voting for.

(56:12):
But what they do know is that I need to
vote Democrats straight down. And that's and that's you're.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Telling me MAGA knows what they're voting for. And that's
what have you seen the comedians that go to the
MAGA protests asking they are literally saying quotes that Joe
Biden said no and people they're supporting it.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
What the going I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I'm not saying that they know either. But what I'm
what am I talking with Mike.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
But what my point is is that is that it's
not that black people are voting because of this issue
or that issue. Is that they have been raised to
just vote one way, straight down and.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
The parents in the house to grandmothers.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
They and that's and and that's through histories because I
remember when Obama first voted, I mean ran, when he
first ran, my uncle I wasn't. I didn't vote for
the first time until Trump's first election. That's my first
time voting.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Obama was my first.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
And so so when Obama voted, my uncle literally was
trying to pay me off just to go vote for Obama. Literally,
he literally he said, I would buy you some sneakers
if you want just to go vote for Obama. It
wasn't because we can buy sneakers. It wasn't because he
didn't say to me, well, you need to go vote
Obama for this issue. You need to go Voma. No

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black president, he's a black president. He's a Democrat. You
need to go vote.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
That's how he said democratic. He just said black president. Well,
black black president got you.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
But that's how But that's how a lot of black
households are raised, is that you vote blew down.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
But there's also so.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Many black people in positions of leadership and the part voting,
it's the people. There's a clip of the party they're voting.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
There's a clip out there of a white Republican in
the chamber. I wish we could pull it up, but
there's there's there's literally a an older white guy who's like,
I look at my party and it looks like a
country club. And then they show the picture of the
Republicans ninety eight percent straight white men. And then he says,

(58:15):
and this is a Republican talking. He says, I look
at the Democratic Party and it shows the Democratic representatives,
and he goes, they look like America. The Democrats put
people in positions that represent America. The Republicans historically continue
to give straight white men power. Why would they do
that if the Liberals were the racists.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
So you said you don't believe no liberals are racists.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
That's a strong man in my position. I never said
no liberals are racist. I definitely know there are liberals
that are racist. And again it's not the same. Just
because you can find a racist Democrat and I can
find a racist Republican doesn't mean the racism is equal.
It is absolutely prevalent among the Republican Party, and it
is few and far between. Believe on the left you
will find racist. I'm not denying. In reality, there will

(59:04):
be and some people accidentally racist. They think they know
what they're doing, and the doing dumb shit. People say
I'm colorblind. I don't even say, shut up, your racist bitch.
That's a problem, right. They think they're doing good and
they're not. But the republic overwhelmingly white nationalists, Christian white nationalists.
They are literally saying this should be a white country.
This was built by the white man. I mean it's
all over the place. You can look at it, you

(59:25):
can read it, log into x. I mean Elon did
his little fucking salute. It was plain as day to everybody.
He pounded his chest and then did it to the
point I won't even do it right now because the
video will get banned.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
It will.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I tried to make fun of him on TikTok and
the shit got taken down. I made fun of him
on Instagram and it played it on Instagram, but it
got banned in Germany on Instagram and I did exactly
what Elon did as a joke, so in the liberals
doing that. But you can show me pictures of people
going like this that are freeze framed of them going
like this and talking and making points. I do this

(01:00:00):
all the time on stage, all of us do. That's
not what Elon did. He pounded his chest and then
did the salute and then turned around, pounded his chest
and did it again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Plain a day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
That was a Nazi fucking salute. Liberals aren't doing that.
Why is all of this coming from the right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
This is and this is these things that liberals are
doing that are very disrespectful to us. And and Malik
being here, you tell me if if you feel this
way or not. Why is it that during the during
the run what Kamalo was running, Why is it that
they had they instead of coming out and talking about

(01:00:35):
the real issues and discussing a real policy and real plan,
they said, we're going to throw you making the stallion
and tworking on stage, and this is what this is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
What we're going to give you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
You know both can happen and give you to give
you this cog and pulling his shirt off on stage, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
A great point. Yes she did it, and yes he
did that. She still talked about policy. To Brandon, what policies.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
It was a whole website. She had all of her
policies out there. We talked about them on the show.
You actually told me one time she didn't list her policies,
and I proved to you on this show that she did,
and you were like, standing correctly, you agreed that you
were wrong about that because her policies were out there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
She didn't have her policies out there in the beginning.
It took the backlash for her to throw something on
that website for people to stop talking about that. Okay,
that and you can go and that's and that's public
knowledge that you can go back. She did not have again,
so again you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
See, don't you see that that's a stretch this, Brandon.
I'm talking about Republicans primarily electing ninety nine percent white
men to make your laws. I'm talking about Republicans erecting
statues of people that wanted to see you in literal change.
And then you go, yeah, but Megan the Stallion tworked.
That's not the same level.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Of racism, man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
But this is also too The liberals are sitting here
trying to put people that is that once a per
mot trying to have sex changes for babies, for kids.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
That's that's that's that you said, that is crazy changes
for babies.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Again, this is what MAGA does.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Y'all just shift change say babies, I'm saying, you call
eight nine year old, we still call them. We still
called them. We still still we still say baby, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, and arncicle, we still say
I'll look at that baby, you know what I'm saying,
And it could be eight nine years.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Old, so little.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
So with MAGA, it's always what about isms?

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Are you familiar with? What about isms? And know?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
What about ism? Is kind of the way you talk
to me. I show you racist ass people doing racist
ass ship, and you go instead of addressing that and
being like, damn, that's a good point. I never realized
the Republican Party doesn't look like me. I didn't realize
they were erecting statues of racists that wanted to see
me in change.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I didn't realize.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
I didn't realize instead of taking a new information, you
just don't address it and go, but what about working?
But what about sex changes? But what about you just
changing the subject.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I did address it. I told you that I believe
that there's racism on both sides equally equally on both sides.
You disagree with me, I do so when you give
me something that is racism on this side, I understand
that there is racism on this side. I understand that
the things that they're doing, I got that. That's I'm
not ignoring the fact that that's happened. But what I'm

(01:03:18):
saying is that the same thing that equally going over
here is equally happened over here, but just in different ways.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
That's just you think, Megan, the stallion torking to relate
to black folks is just as it is just as
bad for black people as literally erecting statues of people
who supported slavery.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yes, you want to know why? Is because you're basically saying,
all we have to do is shuck and jive you,
and we don't have to give you no real information
just to get you to vote for us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
So what about the country sector Carrie Underwood performed for
Donald Trump. Okay, you don't think that's shucking and driving
for white people?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
No, how is that different because.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
They're playing country music that's relatable to most white Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
The point is that it's not It's not the fact
that someone is going up there and performing, it's the
way that it's performed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I think to his larger point, he is the way
that he's trying to say, the black vote, I can see.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Is pandering for sure, of course, but they pander to everybody.
They pandered to white folks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
But it's the way that you pander.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
I think it's the difference from when Kamala Harris she
was first sworn in as the Indian, the first Indian. Yeah. Yeah,
and then you're saying when she started running she needed
the black vote all she was black. So I think
he's basically saying that the Democrats kind of lean to more.

(01:04:43):
It's marketing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
So yeah, but we don't disagree that that happened. So
what I what I want to know from you is
is that the same is that equally offensive to you
as a black man, that they are erecting statues and
electing white men ninety nine white men, and erecting statue
of of Confederate generals that were fighting for slavery, and
renaming our American military bases for literally insurrectionists that tried

(01:05:09):
to overthrow our country to keep owning slaves.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Is that just as bad as.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Kamala saying well, I'm black and Indian and making the
stallion torking on stage. I see that it's pandering. I
see how it could be racist, But do you see
it as equally offensive?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Well, I just want to say I got brands here
on the line. You can avoid the question if you
are parties, but I get what he Well, everybody, at
the end of the day, they want freedom and liberation
for their own people. We all agreed, Sure, we want
to make sure that we are all sides are equal.
But just in hearing the conversation and a debate, I

(01:05:48):
think that what he is saying as far as like
black people, you're saying, like, yo, they're renaming these the
military bases that wanted you enslaved as your people. He's
basically saying, and that's not going to affect my everyday
life at all because he's not going to see a
military based name or anything like that. And he's basically saying, look,
the liberals, right, he brought up the crime Bill, and

(01:06:12):
it was affecting you know, they probably didn't see that
it was affecting, but it's still affecting us. Till this day,
even if you're trying to get along, black people can't
get along. And also, and when he said with the
Joe Biden situation, he said, do he did anything racist
during his term? I don't. I don't know. I can't
believe that. But I can look in my eyes and said, well,

(01:06:32):
you got to say, like he was saying, what did
he do for black people when he's paying them for it?
And what his race? And that's the question we have
to ask, like he had to stop agent hating the
crime bill, remember that bill? And during his term in policy,
you got to ask, like what did he do to
help deliberate and help black people in the way stuff?
We didn't come prepared to talk about it. But I'm

(01:06:53):
just trying to. I'm just trying to. There ain't no man,
I got brands.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
I'm not saying there ain't no way, ain't no way
you can list that Joe Biden racist than Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
And then so Trump, did you say Trump? What does
he what does he have that that well, you know
the effect on black people? Uh, what is he done?
You know, you ask yourself what has he done for
black people? And then you I'm pretty sure you can
have list or whatever you want to say. But both
have lists. But at the end of the day, I
have brands and I'm staying on. But this is good.

(01:07:25):
I'm hearing the debate, but I just.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
I want him to stick around for this last segment.
So let's just get into it because I'm sure it'll keep,
sure it'll continue.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
We have a video to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
But essentially I understand I didn't hear specifically, but there
was a conversation that the two of.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Oh I got the clip, I mean of you saying it,
but that you that you said that women.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Shouldn't have the right to vote.

Speaker 5 (01:07:49):
You said that the man of the House should vote,
and you would take the white opinion into a consideration.
And I had not heard that before. You might or
might not remember, you know, you floored me on that one. Yeah,
but now it's turning into a national movement. I saw
a segment on CNN about how this is not only
is this happening, but Pete Hegsith again. Secretary Defense retweeted
a pastor who's pushing, do we have the clip in

(01:08:10):
the nineteenth man? And I said, it's Brandon. Yeah, let's
let's pull the clip up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Wow, Brandy, you go on viral. No it's not, it's
not him.

Speaker 9 (01:08:21):
His position Christ Church Senior Pastor Doug Wilson makes no
apologies for his beliefs on God and country.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
I like to see the town be a Christian town.
Like to see this the state be a Christian state.
Like to see the nation be a Christian nation. I
like to see the world be a Christian world.

Speaker 9 (01:08:40):
And now Wilson's controversial views as a Christian nationalist are
gaining sway in the nation's center of power, with the
recent opening of his new church and high profile parishioners
like Defense Secretary Pete Hegseath is planting.

Speaker 7 (01:08:54):
A church in d C.

Speaker 10 (01:08:55):
Part of your mission to try to turn this into
a Christian nation.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Yes, so every society is theocratic. The only question is
whose theo. In a secular.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
Democracy, it would be demos. The people in a Christian
republic would be.

Speaker 10 (01:09:12):
Christ Well, what would you say to someone watching this
to say, look, I'm a Muslim. Who are you to
say your worldview is better than mine, that your God is.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
Better than mine?

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
Well, if I went to Saudi Arabia, I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Would pause it real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
So that's part I mean clearly says we the people.
In our constitution, we are supposed to be governed for
and by the people, and he is flat out saying
he wants this to turn into governed by Christians as
a Christian nation, no more by the people. He wants

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it to be a theocracy according to his version of God.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Do you support that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Okay? Good? That that's a huge s are we breaking down?

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Film?

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
And then stop? Yeah? How much are you with this?

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Are you I'm not for that? Okay, my reasons Okay,
wait to get all right? That is hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Well, we've had three conversations on this show, so you'll
be surprised if some of the ship he has agreed
to and be like, hell yeah, so I had to check.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Brandon has a lot of opinions. You just have to
listen to him and sometimes you gotta say and sometimes
you have to say Nope, a go ahead, Dinny.

Speaker 10 (01:10:37):
But you said earlier that you want this to be
a Christian world, so you want to supplant their religion
with your Christian Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
By peace means by sharing the Gospel. There's a lot
of work yet to do. I believe that we are
working our little corner of the.

Speaker 9 (01:10:52):
Vineyard Wilson's Little Corner, a picturesque campus nestled on the
outskirts of downtown Moscow, Idaho, is growing by the day
with thousands of like minded Christians. That Russia, known as
Kirker's own and operates several businesses town next to liberal
college town stores.

Speaker 11 (01:11:12):
If it's true, If it's true, why did he y'all do?

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
There? You go?

Speaker 7 (01:11:21):
That's a regular day for.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
You, That's not unusual.

Speaker 9 (01:11:26):
A big focus of his Christian movement is on a
patriarchal society where men are dominant and women are expected
to submit to their husbands.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Women are the kind of people that people come out.

Speaker 6 (01:11:37):
Of So you just no, it doesn't take any talent
to simply reproduce biologically. The wife and mother, who is
the chief executive of the home is entrusted with three
or four or five eternal souls.

Speaker 10 (01:11:55):
I'm here as a working journalist and I'm a mom
of three.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Good for you?

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
Is that an issue?

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
And no, it's not automatically an issue.

Speaker 9 (01:12:02):
Josh and Amy Prince, along with her four kids, moved
here from Washington State.

Speaker 7 (01:12:06):
Do you see Amy as your equal?

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Yes and no, in the sense that we're both saved
by grace or absolutely on equal footing.

Speaker 7 (01:12:15):
But we have very different purposes God given.

Speaker 10 (01:12:19):
But do you see yourself as the head of the
households as the man he is the head of our household, Yes,
and I do submit to him.

Speaker 7 (01:12:28):
So like moving here, I was just going to play
your decision.

Speaker 9 (01:12:31):
Yes, that's a great, great example, Wilson says, in his
vision of a Christian society, women as individuals shouldn't be
able to vote. His fellow pastors Jared Longshore and Toby
Sumpter agree.

Speaker 11 (01:12:42):
In my ideal society, we would vote as households, and
I would ordinarily be the one that would cast the vote,
but I would cast the vote having discussed it with
my household.

Speaker 7 (01:12:52):
But what if there's a your wife doesn't want to
vote for the same.

Speaker 11 (01:12:55):
Right person as you, right, Well, then that's a great
opportunity for a good discussion.

Speaker 7 (01:12:59):
There are some who.

Speaker 10 (01:13:00):
Have gone so far as to say that they want
the Nineteenth Amendment repealed.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
I would support that, and I support it on the
basis that the atomization that comes with our current system
is not good for humans.

Speaker 9 (01:13:13):
And Wilson, a veteran himself, is unapologetic about his view
that women shouldn't be in certain leadership or combat roles.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
Looking at the leadership page for christ Church.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
It's all looks like the Republican Party on.

Speaker 7 (01:13:26):
The roles in the church and government in the church.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
Now because the Bible says it's not to well, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Not what happens in the Bible.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Women do lead all the time.

Speaker 9 (01:13:36):
Progressive Faith leader Reverend Jennifer Butler is concerned about Wilson's growth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
She's wrong by the way.

Speaker 7 (01:13:41):
He is rapidly gaining in power.

Speaker 10 (01:13:43):
He has hundreds of churches established around the country.

Speaker 7 (01:13:47):
They actually literally want to take.

Speaker 9 (01:13:49):
Over towns and cities, and they have access to this administration.
Wilson is part of a broader Christian.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Nationalist So she's actually just ignoring parts of the Bible. Yeah,
I don't believe that way, but I'm telling you, the
Bible does say First Corinthians fourteen and First Timothy two
eleven both say that women should not be in leadership positions.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
They should submit to their husbands. One of the reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I'm not a Christian, but I'm just telling you, but
when I see women in leadership positions in Christianity, I'm like,
there's some very this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Is what I look that I love about David is
that for someone that doesn't believe in it, for someone
that tried to challenge itself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
He will wipe the floor with you because he know
that Bible front the back better than someone that says
than they are a Christian.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Yeah, because I was a Christian when I started reading it,
and then I got through it and I was like,
oh man, yeah, I could be a good person without
all of this, without all of this divisive stuff. So
when I see women in leadership position of the church,
I'm like, there's some stuff you're ignoring, lady, Like you're
just ignoring it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
But what Yeah, the Bible also known as the atheist
maker in it, and you're out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
I think this is almost done. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:14:53):
The Trump administration with a newly created faith off this
led by evangelical pastor Paula White King and people seen
right outside the White House entrance praying and speaking in tongues.
We are standing on the soil of the White House
and we are declaring.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Your work, Oh prayer.

Speaker 9 (01:15:10):
And now there's a monthly prayer service at the Pentagon
initiated by Hegseth. Wilson's highest level connection to the administration.

Speaker 6 (01:15:17):
It's not organizationally tied to us, but it's the kind
of thing we love to see.

Speaker 9 (01:15:23):
For his part, Hagseeth has publicly praised Wilson.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
Now we're standing on the shoulders of a generation later,
the Doug Wilson's and the others.

Speaker 9 (01:15:31):
Wilson's influence spans the globe, with more than one hundred
and fifty churches. Lennox Califungwa moved to Moscow from Africa.

Speaker 8 (01:15:39):
It's really because I wanted to be a part of
a community that was doing something, and especially in building
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
I was not expecting to talk like.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
Absolutely, there's a few black families.

Speaker 9 (01:15:50):
Wilson maintains all are welcome to his church, but he's
also not shying away from his past controversial.

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
Statements on race.

Speaker 10 (01:15:58):
Do you still believe what you said back in the
ninth that there's a mutual affection between master and slave.

Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
Yes, it depends on which master, which slaver you're talking about.
Slavery was overseen and conducted by fallen human beings, and
there were horrendous abuses, and there were also people who
own slaves who are decent human beings and didn't mistreat them.
I think that system of chattel slavery was an unbiblical system,

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and I'm grateful it's gone.

Speaker 9 (01:16:26):
What he also wants gone same sex marriage because he
thinks homosexuality.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Is a crime.

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
From the late seventies and early eighties, sodomy was a
felony in all fifty states. That America of that day
was not a tutalitarian hellhole.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
So you would like America to go back to that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (01:16:44):
Wilson maintains his ultimate goal is to bring about the
Second Coming of Christ through his work, and rejects critics
claims he's trying to make the dystopian world of The
Handmaid's Tale of reality.

Speaker 6 (01:16:55):
I'm not a white nationalist. I'm not a fascist. I'm
not a racist, a misogynist.

Speaker 7 (01:17:01):
How far off do you see a Christian nation? Like
a full on Christian theopical and fifty years.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Years lucky that's what you see.

Speaker 7 (01:17:10):
But you do think it will happen, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
I do.

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
We're not going to usher in anything ourselves. We're really
genuinely pioneers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
So should households vote together as the household the man
should be the only one voting.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Would you support women losing the right to vote.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Yes, I would support it. And in this did you
hear that? This, this and this this reason why one
of the things that you know what I'm saying, when
it came to the women right to vote, in the beginning,
most women, if you go back to his didn't want
the right to vote. The reason why women didn't have
the right to vote during that time is because it

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came with responsibility that women didn't want. A lot of women,
you know what I'm saying, didn't work during their times,
and so it was the right of the man to
you know what I'm saying, because he is the one
taking in the household and deal with just by abilities.
That's why he That's why the men have the right
to vote. It wasn't until the start of the feminist
movement is when they start picking up and trying to

(01:18:09):
get the right to vote. And even when that happened,
they didn't have the support to get it until the
government stepped in and they over just went you know
what I'm saying, over the majority and the women started
getting the right to vote. When you get in, especially
when you get into a marriage, you shouldn't it shouldn't
be a house divided. It should be one house, one vote.

(01:18:32):
Your you and your wife should should be on the
same page when it comes to the policies and the
things that you feel like it's going to affect your factor.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Why why do you think it shouldn't be a house divided?

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Why is because if I'm in a household with a
woman that believes in I'm just thinking of uh saying,
I'm just trying to think of something if if she's
in the household, trying to think of one of the
policies that uh oh right, this is the same sex
marriage for example. I don't know, just I'm just sure
she's in agreeance for it and I'm not. How how

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is that we're supposed to be one We're supposed to
be on the same home.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Now you're supposed to be your own individual people coming
together as a partnership. And if y'all disagree, y'all should
be able to disagree. How do you feel about what
about roommates? Like like, if if Malick was my roommate,
we should each get a vote, right, yeah, But if
Malick was a woman who had a female roommate, she
shouldn't get a vote.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
She should have to vote with me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
No, we're not together.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Okay, so if we're.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Not dating, single.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Women has no vote either though, no single women.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
You know, I feel for women period, you know what
I'm saying, because women are are a lot of times
are voting for issues that that don't even that don't
even that don't even deal with.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Bro, if you got to understand shit in order to vote,
you're gonna lose the right to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
You I said.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
If you're saying, if you're saying you have to understand
all this ship in order to be able to vote,
you're gonna lose the right thing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
No, I feel I feel like when you go, I
feel like anybody. This is the thing about it. It's
not even just women that I say this too. I
feel like I feel like you should have to take
some form of a test to even vote.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
That's literally against the Constitution. I got you, hold on,
that's a issue right together.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
You know what I'm saying is that is that the
reason why I said I explained the reason why I
feel like in the in the household, if you're especially
if you're married, it should be one house, one vote.
That's it should just be.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
But if women are single, if women are single and
live alone, do you think you should be able to vote?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Yes and no? Yes and no. And this is why
I'm saying. I feel like, no, they shouldn't get the
right to vote. But it would be hard to police
police that one, because it would be hard to police
that one because they're because you can't you know what
I'm saying. They would have to have the right to
vote because they are individuals. My more my stance is
when you're married.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Married women should lose the right to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
But what about two gay men that are married? Should
only one of the dudes get to vote?

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
I was trying to let the silence reads them and
do the meme.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Of all the match and then you talk about yeah,
the calculators something and being.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Like, well, my overall position is that I feel like anybody,
man or woman, when it comes to voting. I feel
like everybody should take some form of a test before
they even allowed to vote, to put their voting because
you have a lot of people going to voting and
have no clue what they're even voting for.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Well, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
The reason we're even talking about this is because it's
some crazy bullshit they're actually I forgot where it is
right now. Michael probably knows better than I do. There's
literally some sort of amendment right now that would make
it so that if they try to kind of make
it the whole transgender thing, like you have to be
your you know your birth person, who you are.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Is assigned at birth.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
But ultimately what it means is that if your last
name doesn't match your birth certificate last name, and you
don't have a passport proving your identity, you won't be
allowed to vote. So you won't be able to show
up like with a driver's license that has your real
life name on it, if it doesn't match your birth certificate. Well,
we could all think that's transgender all day, but who

(01:22:06):
does that really target? Like over sixty million married women
who took their husband's last name. So like my wife,
her last name is Smally, but she wasn't born as
a smallie, right, so she happens to have a passport,
so it won't matter. But in situations like my mother,
my mother doesn't travel, she doesn't have a passport, my
dad is dead, she's got my dad's last name, and

(01:22:28):
she doesn't travel, so her last name is Dixon on
her birth certificate, but is smallly on her driver's license.
My mother, if this passes, will lose the right to vote.
And she's a seventy two, seventy three year old woman
in Texas who's Republican. By the way, it supported Trump twice.
But she will lose the right to vote if they
get their way. So this administration is literally moving toward

(01:22:52):
making it so that it is very difficult or impossible
for women to vote, to the point that we're now
asking a dude on CNN would you support the repealing
of the nineteenth Amendment which gives women the right to vote?
And he said I would support that, And our Secretary
of Defense goes to his church and retweets him and
retweeted this video. So this is a real likelihood that

(01:23:14):
something like this could happen. This seems crazy to me
that in twenty twenty five we're talking about women who
are CEOs, who are mentors, who are business owners wouldn't
get a say so?

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Who are managers and agents? Shout out to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Mind, Yeah, and comedy bookers. How many comedy bookers hurd
you just say that, Oh my god, lot a lot
of women, a lot of women are a lot of
women own comedy clubs, and they don't get it. You
don't think it's fair that they are business owners, but
they wouldn't get a say in how their society operates.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Well do you, I mean, do you think it's fair
for women to be able to vote for things that
go on in the military?

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Of course, because the military supports their taxes go towards
the military.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Okay, so there, so they have. So it's always, what's
the slogan, my body, my choice. Men shouldn't have the
right to say anything about my body, my choice. So
why do women get to say so on men going
in the military and fighting for them and to fight
with their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Women go to the military too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
It's a very small percon brand.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
And we all share a government.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
That's like saying white people shouldn't get a vote and
what happens to black folks, or black folks shouldn't get
a vote, and what happens to Hispanic people. We're all Americans.
We share a government. That government doesn't get to take sides.
So if you are in this country, you get a vote.
You are a citizen of this country. Your tax dollars
go to the country. So you're telling me there's gonna
be female CEOs out there building businesses, running companies, and

(01:24:50):
they don't get to vote on taxes. They don't get
to vote on who their leaders are. They need to
vote on Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
No, they don't see. But this is the other thing.
Like I said, I'm in more more in the support.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Of of of mirrored households, women, individuals if they if
they still have run.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
But if that CEO woman gets married to a man,
she loses her vote.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
In your eyes, she loses her She doesn't lose her vote.
She has her vote in that household.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
As long as her husband agrees, and if her husband disagrees,
she loses her unless she marries a woman. Not always, though,
some women are the head of household. There are situations
in which the woman is the head of household and
that should be.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Okay, and that is crazy, but in your eyes maybe,
But there are situations.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
There are situations in which women are the strong in
which women are the stronger leaders.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
All right, I'm done. I think we got to know
for today. So I appreciate y'all being here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Thank you, Michael fan you be sure to check out
a special in September.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Thank you. Hopefully I have a career after this, I
will not eyes all fairness. I love and stuff like this.
I don't participate, but I love watching people get their
opinions off. And and this is his beliefs that everyone
believes we're all friends.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Yeah, yeah, and and and like I told, I don't
know if this was recorded or not, so I'll say
it again. The reason the podcast exists is it's a
place for comedians to come and talk about some serious
shit because you know, a lot of times we get
told you're just a clown, you're just making comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Just you go do your jokes, funny boy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
But when you really look at it, comedians are the
one that that pushed that envelope, that that discuss free speech.
And we can say stuff on stage a lot of
times that we can't say in front of our families.
So this is a way to deal with and I
just want to say we should be able to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Let me say this before we go. One of the
things also is that I'm not you know what I'm saying.
Whatever this administration, wherever Trump says goes, I find I'm
gonna get some a lot of stuff that he says,
I'm not one to have you back to talking about
I'm not one hundred, you know, saying go go you
know whatever he does, because it's some stuff that I'm like,

(01:26:57):
that's wild, it's crazy, you know what I mean. But
it's a lot of things that I do like that
they that they do as well. Well, I just wanted
to make I would have we would have believed you
if you just wore the shirt, but the shirt and
a hat.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Look, we're about to wrap up. We're about to say
I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Tell me one thing, tell me one thing Trump has
done that you think is wild. What's actually wild to you?

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I think the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
I'm trying because you caught me off guard, and it's
something I have off the top of my head.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
I would say this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
They the extreme, this that he he puts on, that
uh that he puts on of being in the media
a lot when he says a lot of things that
the way that he says things and the way that
he it seems that he goes goes about it. I'm
glad we didn't need to know all that. We don't
need to know. Yeah, sometimes it's like just call the

(01:27:59):
weaves just job, you know, I don't we don't need
all this extra information. That you that you're spe out
as a as a certain policy. I can't think of
it one right now, But next time I'll have you back.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
I want you to make a list of all the
ship you think he does.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
It's crazy. We will have you back just to talk
about this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Has been also that's the only way to get him
to read about the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
Uh, this has been serious.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
Circus, they get a micro Vigilio Brandon Jordan's oh yeah,
in your new podcast, Riggilio V. Everything is out right
now go go go look right now.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
Former GOP, former Trump supporter, congressman as my first guest.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Yeah, yeah, so Rigilio V. Everything go check that out
and he thank you to Danny. Give it up to Danny,
our producer. He's crushing it. Thanks so much for tuning
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(01:28:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Tell about it. Then you're on that four o five,
and then Brandon becomes I know him. But all right,
you gotta huge yet between the car in front of you. Yeah,
drive like an asshole.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Ext