#828 - Rooftop Rants

David & Michael from a Hollywood rooftop.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
He'll make you laugh, he may upset you, but most importantly,
he'll make you think. This is David c.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Smally Hollywood, baby, that's where we are, Sirens, helicopters, random
monster bands.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
What kind of music is that? I don't even know
if the listener can hear it, but I'll tell you.
We're on a rooftop in Hollywood. I'll take a picture
so you can see our view. Totally my idea to
just take a picture, post it on Patreon. Michael Riggilio
is back with me. Did you take your mic off?

(01:12):
Oh it's folded in. Yeah, let's keep it out. How
you doing, man, I'm good. Well, it's crazy. I'm trying
to figure out where that rock band is. Are they
on that roof over there where there's like fire and
effects and see where it says making dance music great again?
There's a little there's a little parking lot stage where

(01:33):
they have bands play. It's kind of a frequent thing.
It's pretty pretty often. What what's that music called? When
when people play music that's like monster a Danzig? No,
it's it's a style of music. It's called something. What
is it? What is it called? It's like monster and

(01:55):
it's not like actual monster, but like a listeners know
what I'm talking about. It sounds like the Misfits are
dancing to me? Sure, I'm not talking about the band
name I'm talking about. Like there's a style of music Doom. No,

(02:16):
it's like it's like Frankin. I don't know, I don't know.
It's something pop, like monster pop or something like that.
Why are you wearing a Chicago beanie? You know the
Cowboys lost to the Chicago Bears last week, and I
don't I don't like the way your beanie's looking at

(02:37):
me right now. I bought this at my mother's funeral.
You bought it at your mother? Your mother had merch
at her funeral? Is this her a prayer card with
her name on it? I was like, I don't think
the Bears cat Chicago for my mother's funeral. Okay, you
bought it in Chicago before your mother's funeral. You didn't
buy it at the funeral, no, okay, but I did

(03:00):
get hot dogs in some popcorn at the funeral. Hot
dogs and popcorn. It's quite the funeral, okay. Sounds like it.
Were they selling tickets or I'm sorry I missed it.
It was a big deal. You were there in spirit.
I think I was talking to you on the regular
at my mother's Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there was a lot

(03:20):
going on. You were talking to me. I didn't want
them to hear us get serious, but I you know,
talking about something like a funeral, we typically like to
laugh a lot. So yeah, yeah, I still don't like
your beanie, But sure, I understand it mean something to you,
but it also means something to me, and it hurts
my feelings. So if you want to choose your mother

(03:42):
over me, then I get it. Keep the damn beanie on.
I think they're gonna be able to hear that, to
hear this, They might be able to hear a little
bit in the background. Why does it bother you so much?
Here's the thing, Michael. If we turn it off and
I sit here and hang out with you, you're still
gonna want to talk to me about Trump and all
the crazy shit going on to say, we.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Can go down to the studio where it's quiet and
have a normal conversation.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Rather than who everybody does that? I want to be
up here for all the fresh air right here in
my hand. You see this fresh air? Why do we
sit over there? See if we can get as far
away from the band as possible. This is my spot.

(04:28):
But I find this highly annoying. If we stopped recording,
which you find out highly annoying, would you still talk
to me? I would still say the musician who plays
guitar during conversations, I've been making eye contact with you
during conversations while you're playing riffs.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Okay, So therefore, when music is playing, my brain tunes
into what is being played, tunes into the music.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's a difference. I'm just a drummer. I don't care. Yeah,
so I have this. You never had a conversation at
the concert, I'm sure I have. But that's live. This
is a live band playing. What is They're not inches
from us? We literally half if they're a half a
block away, less than an inch? Okay, So well, in

(05:19):
that case, China is inches away from Thank you Wow.
Ever since you turned maga, I've not really gotten along
with you. I leave it to the good listeners. Would
you want to have a conversation with a rock band?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Play?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well? This is the shortest podcast in my you know,
I think there's a I think there's a twelve minute
episode out there somewhere. This could be, this could break
the record. Let's go sit over there. See if it's quieter.
There's not gonna be much of a different. I'm gonna
go check it out. I'm curious to see if that
microphone still works over there. You can go this way,

(06:11):
all right, So Michael is gonna now walk away. We
are on a rooftop in Hollywood, on the roof of
the actual studio, and Michael is now I'm gonna commentate
for you. He is walking. I'm gonna guess back to
my football days. This is gonna be about twenty five
yards away on the rooftop, back to the corner of

(06:33):
the roof. I'm gonna see if, first of all, his
microphone still even works. On second, if it sounds any different,
I don't think it will. The thing is I mean
that that band is there are half a block away
it's echoing through the this concrete jungle we call Los Angeles.

(06:56):
He's on his way back now. He didn't seem happy.
I've gotta be honest with you, Sirias. Circus is ramping up.
We've got episodes that are being that have been recorded
and are being edited for your release. Just so you know,
for your release. Please don't release to it for your pleasure. Nope,
not that either. They're they're coming out. They're coming, They're

(07:16):
not coming, They're You're okay. It's new episodes will be
out soon. So did it sound any better over there?
A little bit? What? A little bit? But not enough
that I wouldn't still be distracted. You know, given our personalities,
I thought I would be the one that have a
problem with the music in the background. Yeah, I'm shocked
that it's you because I normally have to latch onto

(07:38):
the sounds, but you are. It's almost like you used
to be in that band and you're pissed off because
Paul is playing guitar like you are locked in. It's weird.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's look I played in live bands for twenty five years.
Trying to do a serious podcast will send fucking Yahoo,
fucking Hollywood bad, I'll.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Be honest with you. They're usually pretty big names. Really
people I haven't heard of, granted, but but like, there
was some guys over there the other day. They were
huge on social media. The crowd. It sounded like there
were two thousand people. I mean, it was massive, and
I've never heard of venue. How would I find out
who that is? I don't know? Oh, oh you can.

(08:23):
You can look up concerts near me. That's how I
found out what concerts are near me. No chat GPT?
Oh are you on CHATJEPT? No? Michael, God, you're such
a boomer. All right, watch this? Watch this. Hey, So

(08:43):
I'm in Hollywood near the Capitol Records building and there's
a live band playing, but I don't know who it is.
Can you tell me about any live concerts near me? Sure? Things.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
So it looks like there are a few shows going
on around there today. For example, at the Wiltern there's
a twilight and concert event starting at seven pm, and
the Greek Theater has the band's Sparks playing at seven
thirty pm. There's also a whole Celebrate La festival happening nearby,
with performances throughout the day, so it might be part
of that, feel free to wander over and check it out.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't want to go over there. You go over there?

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Ah Well, if I could physically stroll around Hollywood, I
totally would, but I'll have to live vicariously.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
So you do check it out.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
I hope you enjoy the mystery bands.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
So can you tell me who's on the bill? I mean,
I'm at the intersection near I don't want to give
away the address to the studio near the Capitol Records Building.
Do you not have like a concert bill for who's
like on the bill at the location closest to the
Capitol Records Building?

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Absolutely sore?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
What's on the bill? Today?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
You've got to line up at Whiskey at Go Go
around six pm with bands like Crazy Licks and Sweet.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Quivette Over at the Troubadoor.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Loosen To Williams is on at seven pm, and Sparks are.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Playing the Greek Theater at apm.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Plus the Celebrate La Festival has a bunch of performances
going on too, so you've got quite a few options.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's probably Celebrate La because this band is outdoors. Can
you tell me who's supposed to be on stage? Around
nine pm? At the Celebrate LA Festival. Sure.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
So at the Celebrity LA Festival tonight, it's basically a
big street party that runs all the way from Walt
Disney Concert Hall to a Hollywood Bowl. Around nine pm
they've got a big free concert happening at the Hollywood
Bowl with Gustavo Dudamel and the LA Film plus special
guests like Katie Perry, Herbie Hancock, and Kelly Chess. So
that might be what you're hearing.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
No, this is on Vine Street.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Got it Street definitely narrows it down. Given that you're
near the Capitol Records Building and it's an outdoor performance,
it's likely part of the celebratey LA Festival's outdoor stages
set up along Vine around nine pm. They've got a
rotation of local LA bands and performers, think smaller acts
and community musicians. So it's probably one of those local
sets that's part of.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
The festival line up. So she doesn't know who the
hell it is, Michael. They don't have a name, right,
so some local yahoos. Okay, you were right, they sound decent.
They sound fine to me. Anyway, we've wasted the first
eleven minutes of this podcast talking about absolutely nothing sorry

(11:39):
about that. I've never seen you so distraught now since
the first time you bought that beanie don't know if
the beanie man. You know what's annoying me about this
guy is he's opening his high hat over and over. Yeah, yeah,

(12:01):
it's that. It's that left foot.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
After I stopped playing music beat that became very popular
with the bands, you know what we call it.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
But yeah, yeah, the opening the closing of the high
hat's really annoying. But anyway, yeah, so it's it's it's
a festival. Yeah. You know, before I started recording, you
would not shut up about Donald Trump, about this Secretary

(12:31):
of War meeting, about democracy falling, the United States never
having another election. I mean, you were going off and
I thought, look, we're going up to the rooftop. Let's
let's crack open a drink and record one of our historic,
very popular outdoor podcasts. And you were all about it.

(12:53):
This Yahoo started screaming into a microphone, and you became
a different person. So I can't sit back and relax
and tell me your feelings. How are you feeling right now?
This isn't about politics anymore. We're gonna get to the
bottom of why why this throws you out of out
of your loop.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
It's just my life experience, twenty five years of playing
in rock bands. I guess that I find it very
distracting trying to have a conversation as there's a rock
concert going on around us.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
All right, so let's say I say, okay, fine, we're
not gonna do a show, and we popped the mics off.
I'll stop the recording and it goes into the forever trash. Yeah,
and this never, this never sees the light of day.
I closed that laptop, I set it on the table,
and I kicked back and I set my drink. Isn't
there a quieter place we could go? Of course? But

(13:50):
I'm busy. Can't you put it out for that?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Put what out? I don't know what you're talking about.
I'm busy. So my point is, once we close the
laptop and I set it on that table right there. Yeah,
and we poured the little refilled to the drink. No, no, no,
And I'm sitting here. Are you gonna sit in silence?
Or are you gonna go? You know, I think Trump's

(14:19):
on his way to becoming the next Hitler. As a
matter of fact, he's already started.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
It turns out in nineteen thirty nine and we can
see a mirror image of that Huba hoopa to hoo
to who And I'm gonna go Michael, we should have
recorded this.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
I agree, but I'm not gonna be comfortable sitting on
the roof with a rock band playing next door to us.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't want to do it. What happened to you? Man?
He went soft on me somewhere That is totally possible. Well,
this is gonna be called David C. Smalley Versus Michael Riggilio.
It's interesting that you call your podcast Michael Riggilio or

(15:09):
is it just Rigilio Riggilio v Everything? Yeah, you know
most of the episodes, if you go down and look
at the dogm Debate episodes, it's atheist versus Christian, or
liberal versus this, or David versus something something. So I
want you to know when you see in the future

(15:29):
an episode title with a V in it or a
VS in it, I'm not stealing from you. I'm stealing
it from you. No, we are simpatico, my brother, we
are both. We are both v a lot of shit.
I just don't have the energy man like I I

(15:50):
I I keep thinking about getting a maga guy on
and and trying to and I'm just here's how absurd
it's become. Let me just read you a message I
got on Instagram. Now, now, mind you, it's important for

(16:11):
me to say this off the top. I never celebrated
the death of Charlie Kirk, not privately, not publicly. I
never jumped up and down and said I was happy
about it. It was terrible that someone got killed. The

(16:33):
only thing I shared it was a D. L. Hugley
posted essentially this contradiction, which was everyone's saying that the
left shouldn't be bringing up his old quotes, they shouldn't
demonize him, things like that, they shouldn't mock him. I

(16:54):
saw that, which I partially agree with. We could get
into the details of it, but what the post was
was actually Donald Trump mocking Paul Pelosi for being beaten
in the head with a hammer. Donald Trump Junior too.
And this clip that Dell posted said liberals are conservatives

(17:20):
are saying that liberals shouldn't be mocking the death of
Charlie Kirk, Yet this is our president, and then it
showed the video of him saying this. So nothing about
the video actually mocked Charlie Kirk. What it was doing
was calling out the hypocrisy of the right to say
you should always respect the deceased and just be respectful,

(17:43):
don't mock them. He was a husband, he was a father.
How dare you right? And then it showed this video
of Trump mocking Paul Pelosi for being beaten with a hammer,
and that was it, And so I shared that. I
shared that video from l Hughes. I got a reply
to it. You ready for this reply? You had to

(18:06):
go and get political, didn't you? Well, you hadn't been
here long, right, feel good losing followers? First of all,
my Instagram following has been growing at a rate of
about five thousand to eight thousand followers per week. I'm
well over a quarter million followers on Instagram. I don't
know what he's talking about. I stopped following you. You're

(18:29):
a typical retarded liberal with a bad case of Trump
derangement syndrome. Get some help. Three exclamation points. It's not healthy.
Tell your horror of a daughter that only fans is
for scumbags. Wow, I said, Hi, Jason, are you okay?

(18:53):
This was at ten thirty pm by the way, he said,
you're you know how it's spelled. He said, you're not
gonna be okay texting people at this time of night.
Fucking scumbag, get a life loser. More exclamation points and
four laughing faces. It's literally like talking to a child,

(19:14):
I replied again. I said, well, I didn't text anyone,
I replied to your DM, I asked if you're okay,
because calling a stranger's daughter a whore is not something
people do if they're happy and contend with their lives.
So I'm honestly just worried about you. Are you going
through something? He said, Me and my family are as
happy as can be, except for scumbags that celebrate someone's assassination.

(19:37):
I wish nothing but misery and death to you and
your family and friends. Eight exclamation points and three prayer hands. Wow,
I said, you may have me confused with someone else.
I never celebrated anyone's death. I think what happened to
Charlie was horrific. What are you referring to? He says, yes,

(20:02):
you did, fucking loser. Well, okay, I said, absolutely did
not and would never do that. What post of mine
are you talking about? After three days of no response.
I said, yeah, that's what I thought. Zero evidence for

(20:24):
your claim I never did that, and I've not heard
back from Jason. This is what we've resulted resorted to.
This other side is oblivious to reality. All caps, typing,
multiple exclamation points, emoji's name calling, they are little products

(20:50):
of Donald Trump. Fucking loser, scumbag, your daughter's a whore.
Just it doesn't even make me mad. It just makes
me go, we're not We're not on the same human
level like you're just not. I don't know if you
have the ability to have a decent conversation with me.
It's really bizarre. And uh, in the face of evidence

(21:14):
of me saying I didn't do that, Yes you did.
Fucking loser. Just nothing matters. Reality just doesn't matter. And
I'm at a point now where I one of my
most popular quotes ever that soared through the Internet fifteen
years ago, was never pass up a chance to have
a conversation because the next mind you change could change thousands.

(21:36):
And now I, David C. Smalley, am the one going,
what's the point in talking to these fucking people? Because
I'm gonna bring him on the show. I can invite
him on the show, and he's gonna come on and
go fucking loser, loser, loser. Okay, thanks for joining us today.
I mean, what what are we doing? Like the guy

(21:57):
you had on your show, I want to promote that
and have people go support your podcast. R jili Ov everything.
You had a guy on that agreed. He contacted you,
by the way, Yeah, came on your show, started arguing
with you, was like, you sound like an atheist, You're
like I am, and then he started threatening you with
emails saying you better not release it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
What he reached out to me said he wanted to
come on the show, sent me a video.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Of him saying, I've.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
Uncovered new evidence in the book of Revelation of Prophecy.
I think the ten Horns of the Beast is actually
the ten families of the Royalty of Europe.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
And I just wrote back, awesome, the exact kind of
thing I like talking about.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I didn't mean I like talking about it because I
buy into your bullshit.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
I mean, yeah, that's the exact kind of bullshit I
like debunking dip shit. So he comes on and then
when I'm pushing back, he says, uh.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
You sound like an atheist.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
No, I am an atheist, I said at the end,
after he hung up on me or got raptured.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I'm not sure which. Uh I do know which because
then he started sending the email. You don't know where
he sent those from, threaten threatening you. Well maybe maybe
I haven't. Yeah, he's telling me.

Speaker 8 (23:24):
He's like, well, I was able to uncover the ten
families of Europe, the ten royal families of Europe, and
that's the ten horns of the Beast using chat GPT.

Speaker 10 (23:35):
And at the end, I said, after he was raptured,
I said, hey, Bill, maybe use chat GPT to say
who is Michael Rigilio next time before you come on
to his podcast?

Speaker 3 (23:47):
It might have mentioned atheists. Yeah, I got your text.
I was like, oh god, I've been there. I had
a guy do that to me, threaten me, started threatened
to dox me, and then because he had my personal number,
and then he started sending me pictures of a of
a door of a place I an apartment I used

(24:10):
to live in No Way. I had moved out of
there several years back. But he sent me that. He's like,
I want to be I'll be doxing your address. He
was just sending me photos of it, and I just
replied and I said, look, please don't do that to
those poor people who live there. I haven't lived there
in years. Like, get a little better at stalking if
that's what you're gonna do, man like, And uh, ultimately

(24:31):
I released it and and nothing happened. I mean, yeah,
you won't. I mean, you know, there's generally something called
implied consent, and that's what I explained to you on
the on the text, I was like, dude, you you know,
when someone sits down to have a recording, they're engaging
in a recording. They know they're being recorded. At any point,
they can just stop, but that doesn't mean you can't

(24:53):
release what they've already participated in. You know, would it
be a good idea to have someone fill out like
a form, I mean a illegal Sure, that would be best,
as you know, as an attorney would advise you. Yeah,
definitely get someone to sign a waiver or some kind
of talent form or something or disclaimer or whatever. But
good luck, I mean fight that in court, you know,

(25:15):
like whatever. But that's what I'm saying. It's the reason
I think it has gotten to this point is is
the the level of people that are supporting that side
still are if they're thoughtful enough to come on the
show and have a good conversation, they've been thoughtful enough
to consider their options. I do talk to thoughtful people

(25:40):
who voted for Trump, and when I invite them on,
they go, oh, I can't defend that guy, or they
go no, no, no, I don't want to. I don't
want to. I don't want you to use my name
on a show. And then I started going, hey, you
can come incognito. Man, I won't tell anybody who you are.
And then they're like, ah, I can't really defend his accurately.
Think oh they say that. See I say to them,
think of all the minds you could change. You don't

(26:02):
have to change my mind. Would be the point of
talking to you liberal right than you'd ever change your mind? Well,
people will be listening. Maybe you could change their minds.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Also, I want to say this, I've been thinking about
doing a video about the Charlie Kirk thing, but I'll
just say it right here with you. I keep hearing
that Charlie just wanted respectful, good debates, and I've seen
people showing DMS from him. He went on Gavin Newsom's podcast.

(26:39):
He talked to Ben Gleeb about it. There were a
couple of that was a long time, bigger name debates
that he wanted to have, but he wanted the recognition
for debating those people. Mostly what he wanted to do
is go intellectually beat up on college kids as a
thirty year old man. That's what he wanted to do.

(27:02):
Element let me just hold on. I wanted real debates.
I started this shit in twenty ten having on people
that were more qualified than me. I had on PhDs,
college professors. I had on pastors and priests who were
twenty thirty, forty years my senior, who had been doing

(27:23):
this long before I was born, and I had respectful
debates with them for three to four hours, five hours
at a time. I wanted respectful debate. I went after
people that were way above my weight class intellectually and
held my own Charlie Kirk went around talking to college
kids and reached out to a few big name people

(27:46):
to grow his own brand. And by the way, I
would always make sure that things that I would say
were fact checked and legitimate, and I never went out
of my way to demonize an entire group of people
or group them by the color of their skin. The
stuff that he would say is gut wrenching, about these

(28:09):
black women not having the brain power to have their jobs,
about empathy being made up that holds humanity back, that
he's okay with some gun deaths in order to keep
our amendment. I mean, some of the things he said
is horrific. There's a whole website now called is it

(28:30):
Charlie Quotes, Yeah, or Charlie's Quotes or something like that
dot com or whatever, dot org. I don't know the
exact website, but all they're doing is like listing all
the things he actually said and not to demonize him
after his death. What they're if the Conservatives are listening,
going yeah, they're trying to run his name through the mud.
Conservatives are trying to put statues up to this man,

(28:52):
and they're saying, I don't want to support that, not
because I dislike a man who is killed or want
to rub his name through the mud. It should I
want to logically be opposed to honoring his memory. I
don't have to participate. And here's my evidence for not participating,
not that I'm a stone cold liberal who doesn't like

(29:14):
anybody on the other side, that's not it. I'm sure
if something happened to Mitt Romney like that, people may
be more like, yeah, maybe we do erect some things
because Romney doesn't go around saying hateful things about people.
And then when Josh Allen, the quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, said,
you know, if you want to be kindly remembered, you

(29:36):
should say kind things while you're here, that's now controversial.
They're calling him hateful for saying it. I just you know,
that was someone's father, you know what I mean. And
it's sad that those kids are going to grow up
without their dad. I think, as you know, before I'm
an atheist, before I'm a podcaster, before I'm a comedian,

(29:58):
I'm a dad, and I wear that with a badge
of honor. And so I would never want my kids
to grow up without me. And that's sad, and that's
sad on in its own right. That's said as a
different part of this. But if I died right now
and my kids were going through it, I wouldn't expect

(30:21):
Christians and Republicans to erect a statue of me. I
didn't do anything for them, right, So I would expect
them to be, like, he said a lot of things
against Christianity. Okay, that's fine. Accurately quote me and have
your own opinion, and don't honor my memory. I don't
give a shit right but to try to force me

(30:43):
to honor memory or have my tax dollars go to
erect a statue somewhere when you said hateful things, I
think that's a legitimate reason for liberals to go. I
don't want to support that or honor his memory because
these are the things he said, and I think that
should be okay without us being called hateful. I'm not
celebrating his death. I'm not dancing in the streets because

(31:04):
he's dead. But I don't have to participate in the
candlelight vigial because I know his.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
History well, because I'm a little historical insight into that.
Martyrs are incredibly useful to a cause. And I don't
think that Charlie Kirk changed anything other than it gave
them the excuse to do what they always wanted to do.

(31:35):
Donald Trump always wanted to go into the cities with
the National Guard.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Is that what he's is he using that as a.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Well, I mean them.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Saying that they're violent. They are a violent terrorist organization.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
He always wanted to go after the ideology that we
call Antifa. It's not an organization, there's no leadership Tantifa.
It's an ideology. But because he can declare it now
internal terrorist or a domestic terrorist organization, he can go
after the groups that fund the Democrats. He can go
after the Democrats and say that you guys are affiliated
with a domestic terrorist group. All these things they always

(32:11):
wanted to do, and this gives them the ability to
do it.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Have you ever heard of horse Vessel? I have. Actually.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Horse Vessel was a young man in charge of recruiting
young people to the Nazi calls.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
He was seen a documentary on him. Really yeah, yeah,
I have not seen that documentary yet. It's a long
time ago, but I remember a documentary talking about how
his whole specialty was the young people of the Nazi
Party and he was murdered and what did they do.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
They erected statues to him, They turned him into a martyr.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
They used it to draw more young people to the cause.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
They didn't care about hors Vessel necessarily, but they loved
the iconography that they were able to create from Horst Vessel,
and we're seeing a lot of that now.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
There was an article in the Daily Caller. Do you
know what that is?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
No?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Daily Callers, Tucker Carlson started Daily Oh God, it's.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
A website, and it said, I choose violence, like in
the face of what's going on with the liberals. If
this is what we're faced with, then I choose violence.
But I think they chose violence.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
A long time ago.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I think they've wanted to arrest liberals for a long time.
They wanted to Charlie Kirk gave them the excuse that
they were looking for for a long time to do
all the things they were going to do anyway, but
he gave them the excuse to do it, maybe the
accelerated schedule to do it on. But I don't think
anything has changed with them other than they have an

(33:37):
excuse now to say, look at you, hateful, hateful people.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
We had five mass.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Shootings this very weekend, almost all of them Trump supporters, right.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
I don't mean to laugh, but it's just they it's
my skeptics.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
We know that there's the you pay attention to the
hits and you ignore the misses. So somebody that they
are able to spin into a leftist.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Killed Charlie Kirk, whether or not that's true. Actually, there's
a lot of debate there.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
They pay attention to that, They focus on that, and
then the Trump supporter that went into a Mormon church
because whatever?

Speaker 3 (34:17):
So was the Is Tyler Robinson being called a Mormon?
Who was a Mormon? Is that why the Trump supporter
shot up a Mormon church? Is because the person who
killed Charlie Kirk was a Mormon.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Well, I mean, you've debated as many Christians as I have,
or more mentioned Mormons to them, They scoff, right, that's
not a Christian.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
There's always been some intern But I mean, is there
any connection to that?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Was it retaliatory? I have not heard that it is
a direct connection to Tyler Robinson.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
No, I think that there's I mean, I think of
how blasphemous from the Christians point of view, it must
be that Joseph Smith look through a sear stone at
Invisible Golden Plates and.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Saw an update on the Bible.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
I don't doubt that they see the whole endeavor as
a completely blasphemous.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
They're coming for us, Charlie Kirk's So that's my problem with.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
The martyrdom and the the idolization of Charlie Kirk is
that it's being used as an excuse to quite literally.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Come after liberals, come after vote Blue. I mean the Antifa,
Antifa had nothing to do with the murder of Charlie Kirk.
But what did Donald Trump do immediately in the wake
of Charlie Kirk's murder classified Antifa as a terrorist organization.
It's not even an organization.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
So now that we have this opaque, gelatinous idea.

Speaker 11 (35:55):
Of Antifa as a terrorist organization, well then who can't
be Antifa? And by saying that they hate us, Antifa
is out to get us. There's a tacit admission that
we're fascists because Antifa stands for anti fascists.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
They're coming for us, Conservatives, these Antifa, I mean, the
whole thing is a mess.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
And just today as I was telling you, I know
you were very busy today and you didn't have Okay,
that is that is LAPD. They talking LAPD is is
shining a light directly at us to make sure we
are in fact white. But uh, it's already started. Man.

(36:44):
They were like a couple of white guys on the roof.
I mean, we're good for now. For now, we'll see.

Speaker 12 (36:52):
But yeah, today Trump literally said to the generals, the
enemy within, you have to go after the enemy within.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
We're being invaded from within.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Now, for one, How stupid do you have to be
to say we're being invaded from within?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
How how can you be invaded from within? In January
sixth I suppose that's a good point. I mean, but
that was an insurrection. That's why we have a different
word for that. Yeah, you're right in surrection. Yeah, yeah,
not invaded from within. My body's being invaded with all

(37:33):
this blood that's in there. But this is, by the way,
side note in the comments here on Patreon, let us
know if this background noise drives you crazy, because I
think this could be a thing. I think we can.

(37:54):
I think we can come up heart, I'll never do
it with that's not very that's not by the way.
You don't even realize when they stopped, I realized, did you?
I didn't realize what they snow.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
I was tapping my foot to these motherfuckers and their
piece piece suit pie suit.

Speaker 13 (38:09):
And I have nothing wrong with the young people in
their modern take on rock music.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
But I'm an old man.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
I don't like the piece soup piece suit, piece piece,
every song, every song it's gotta be, can't be piece
pie suit.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Well, they shut down the pea soup, they shut down
the peace. It got cold. So let us know in
the comments on Patreon if you can't, if you don't
like the background noise. To me, this feels natural. It's
also really easy to do. We don't have to set
up cameras. We don't need a producer here. We clip
on a couple of wireless mics to our collars, start

(38:43):
the recorder, and we just get to hang out. And
I think you're gonna get better conversations this way, as
opposed to having a producer setting up the lighting, doing
the checks, going action, you know, sound speating, rolling, Oh,
your camera's a little off, and will you readjust that?
Like sometimes I just like having these conversations. Maybe I
could bring cuse me, maybe I could bring a conservative

(39:03):
up here and have this type of conversation. Just clip
the mic on and let's just chat. Yeah. I might
not feel so formal, you know, but anyway, if you
hate it, let us know, we won't do it. But
these are easier to bring you. I don't have to
worry about the productive the producers schedule. I can just
do this on my own and it's decent quality, I think.
So just let us know if you like it, if

(39:26):
you made it this far from her Rooftop in Hollywood
From the Rooftop in Hollywood, Rooftop Conversations with David C.
Smally v Rigilio.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, I think we're completely screwed. I will actually push
back on an episode we had I think six months
ago now, and you are forgiven.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Make sure your MIC's not covered. You shifted and it
looked like it went under your collar. There you go.
You want to just hold it? Yeah, it keeps folding
under the jack, so you just unclip it if you want.
Just hold on to it like a stand up mic.
Have you ever done that much time before you ever
done stand up? Have you ever done stand up comedy
where you had to hold a mic for a long

(40:11):
periods of time? They I've tried to do stand up.
They won't give me a microphone. Oh you have to
do stand up yell yelling. Yeah. Michael Virgillio's comedy Special
is coming out October seventh on Amazon Prime. I hope
y'all go get it. It's called war Bar. Brilliant title.
By the way, he's saying that because he came up

(40:33):
with it, which is true. I mean I came up
with the bit called war Bar. We said the name
of the spec I mean, dude, when I was there
when you were recording it, it was the hottest part
of the special. And I had never heard that joke before.
How long have we been friends? Long time? Now, it's
been a long time. Yeah. I've probably seen your stand
up more than any other person alive, and you've probably

(40:57):
seen my stand up more than any other person. We've
done so many shows together. I've never seen you do Warbar.
I guess there was this time where we stopped doing
shows together. You wrote this bit, worked it out, perfected it,
polished it, and then the first show back was you
filming your special.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, And so I will say, because I'm not famous,
I tend to do seven to ten minutes when we're
on shows together.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
How long has that bit? The bit's seven minutes, sou So,
how come you don't ever do just a war bar bit?
That probably would have been a good idea. Actually, I
tried it one time. Come in and.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Cold, where you're playing a bunch of characters where you're
playing anthropomo.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Okay, yeah yeah, audience doesn't know you. I don't know
you yet. Yeah yeah. So that's how my stuff is.
I do some controversial stuff about race, where I like
talk about my first time at black church and and
I kind of, you know, I talk about opening the
door where everybody's dressed like skittles, and and it's said,
if that's all I do, I just especially looking like this,

(41:57):
I just look like a white guy making fun of
black people religion. And that's not at all what it is.
When you see the whole thing together, you see how
I start the show making fun of like conservative politics,
and how I get confused for being that guy when
I'm the opposite of that guy and I don't really
agree with that. And I set the stage so then
when I get to the black church stuff, it's like, oh,
this was his experience as one of the one of

(42:19):
the good guys, you know, and it's easier to take
and then it's funnier. So I could totally see that
if you just walked on stage with no context and
started that, people would be like, what is this guy doing?
But once we know you and you're fifteen twenty minutes
into your special then it's it's pretty cool. Yeah, that's why. Yeah,
I think I did try.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
I like the way in front of a sold out
crowd at the improv where they were like, you have
seven minutes.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
I was like, in Hollywood, yeah, okay, Warbar. Three minutes in,
I was like, I should you do war Bar? How
thinking did you stick with it? I stuck it? Okay,
I stuck it to the end. Well, good for you
are not throwing the bit away and just knowing where
to put it in a better spot. It's good.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
But I did get off stage where the other comics went, Yeah,
those historical bits are tough.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I went, Okay, I was, I was. I thought I bombed,
but now I know I bombed. If I was hosting,
I probably would have gone up after you and been like,
and this next person's gonna do a seven minute die
tribe on Hitler. Here he goes the History Channel, brought
to you by Yeah. No. So it's a brilliant bit.

(43:25):
It's so it's so good, and I think the way
you you set it up was what I loved.

Speaker 8 (43:29):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
It was a long time ago since you filmed it.
A long time ago. Since you filmed it, so I
don't remember exactly word for word, but it was something
along the lines of like, men your age love talking
about World War two? Right, You were like, it's like,
what is the setup for it? Do you remember? It's
been a long time for me too. Our Taylor Swift
is world War two. Yeah, that's it. That's it, and

(43:49):
that that's what that's that's what grabs you. Yeah, it's like,
oh wow, even old white men have a tailor Swift,
but it's World War two. They love watching documentaries about
that shit. And then you start getting into the different
the different wars all coming to the same bar, bar
in Hollywood, a bar in Hollywood, and you're the bouncer

(44:09):
checking who's allowed it, what wars are allowed in. It's
a brilliant concept. Man. I've never seen anybody personify war
and make it make young men dying for oil funny,
not always for oil, sometimes for racism. Oh that's true,
you're right anyway, it's brilliant. Look up War Bar October

(44:30):
seventh on Prime. Did I wish you to bet most success?
I hope it's an absolute killer. I was. I loved it.
I loved being there. A dragon at the time my
pregnant girlfriend out to see your special being filmed. Who's
now my wife, by the way, and that pregnancy is
long over. It is long over. We took care of that.
Oh right, he was born. No, yeah, his name is Dallas.

(44:56):
He's a little fat boy with blue eyes. Looks just
like me.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Is it just like?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
It's crazy? You should post the picture of Patreon of
you as a baby and him as a baby. It's
pretty eerie, isn't it. It's eerie? And my dad as
a baby. I have a black and white photo of
my dad and if it weren't for the quality of
the photo, you would not be able to tell the
difference between him and my son. It is we jokingly
say all the time my wife gave birth to my father.

(45:22):
It is bizarre. I'll show you right now. I'll show you.
I don't care about timing on this show. It's probably
not gonna go to air anyway.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Oh so the episode where you say nice things about
my comedy, you're saying probably won't go to air.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Right, I'm gonna throw it away.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
When they talk about designer babies, Wow, you might be
able to sell those genes them e Jeens copyright them.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Do you know what the black ring around your pupil
is called limble rings? Limble rings?

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah? And did you know that the fatal.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Part speaking the single most attractive quality. Yeah, a human
being can have is limble ring. Thick limble rings, thick limbering.
But they thin out over time, which is why we
tend to find younger. One of the reasons we tend
to find younger people more attractive than older people. Like
I don't mean younger younger, I don't mean Donald Trump younger.

(46:16):
I mean, yes, youth is I'm in twenty eight versus
seventy three. I mean it's more than just the face.
It's also the thickness of the limble ring. It's a
real thing.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
But when I did find that out, I read that study,
I ran to the mirror and looked in the mirror,
and I have to.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Say, zero limble ring. I have without limble rings, I
am without, which is you're an alimbless I'm alimbal. I
will say that interestingly enough, like just watching.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
You know, as somebody who loves rock music as I do,
the majority of the great rock stars are really getting old.
As I'm sure you know they're all in their eighties
Paul McCartney's I've seen it, Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
There is something that goes on with the eyes where
they get kind of glazed over, and I don't know,
just it's the out it's the outline. The limble ring
has gone away. Yeah, it's very very thin. It's almost
non existent in some people at that age.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
I mean, I would say that in the next and
this is a terrible prediction, but it's probably true. In
the next couple of years, we're gonna lose all the
rock stars, Like they're all gonna go, I know, like
obviously not all the rock stars people that were rock
stars in the eighties and nineties and whatnot, but all
the monsters of rock from the sixties and seventies.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Like, so, this is my son, adorable Tubby's a he's
a tubster. This is me Tubby.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I mean, god, it's the same baby. It looks like
with a different Instagram filter.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Like yours has like arazy effect on it. And this
is my dad. Wow, same baby, same baby. He's even
got the the brow ridge thing already. My wife says,
women will look down into the carrier when she's like
take him for a walk, or she'll have him out somewhere.

(48:25):
We'll look in and go, oh, he doesn't like me
very much. And she looks down and he's like looking
at him like this with his with his furrowed brow.
She's like, that's just his dad's face. He's just very inquisitive.
He's just always he's very skeptical of your existencies. He's
just like, I'm not sure about this. He doesn't dislike you,
He's thinking about you deeply. That's funny. That's why you're

(48:48):
such a great character actor. Hm, you look like an
I mean an eight year old, we're about to say,
or an eight angry angry. I look like an angry
angry pretty well. We were talking about something interesting and
then I derailed us talking about your special Trump. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
I was talking about what he said today to the generals,
to the generals, the internal enemy, the enemy with from within,
enemy from within.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
This is oh, I know what I was saying.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
As I was about to say that, I was going
to push back against something you said. Do you remember
we had an episode As.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Long as you're holding it, if you pull it a
little closer, you'll be right at my levels.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Okay, remember we had an episode about six months ago,
and you wanted to call it hope for the hopeless.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I believe, and they're like, we can turn this thing around.
We can do it in the midterms.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
I'd like to ask you, now, do you think there's
going to be fair and honest mid terms?

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Okay, well, you're right. Some things have changed since then.
Mostly they have found seats. Another state recently did it.
I forgot who it was, Missouri. I believe somebody went
and basically jerry mannered every Democrat except one out of
the entire state. Michael, I never assumed it was going

(50:27):
to be fair. Again, I believe if you go back
and listen to that episode, what I said was it
was our it was our only chance. If we overwhelmingly
vote blue in the midterms. Even this jerry mandering isn't
gonna matter, you know. But because they're they're they're jerry

(50:51):
mandering based off of historical votes where Republicans typically win out.
But if those people join us to say we will
not have a tyrant, then we can still win. And no,
I don't think it'll be fair, but I don't what

(51:15):
else can we do. I don't know. Historically speaking, that
doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Once you let fascists in and the only people say
Donald Trump's not a fascist have no idea what fascism is.
I mean the people who study it, the professors, the
history professors. I think the last few holdouts have come
around in the last three months, like they're all in
Unison saying this is fascism.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Once you let them into power. That's the whole thing
is they never let it go. Here's the There's somebody
I know I'm not going to name names on this podcast.
There's somebody that I know and care about very much,
who I typically believe to be a pretty smart person, friendly, loving,

(52:11):
loves his family. If you never brought up politics, you
would absolutely love this man. Welcoming, generous, kind, wise when
it comes to life lessons and helpful advice for younger people.

(52:35):
Good guy. We started talking about politics, or about Trump,
I should say, which isn't just politics, started talking about
this stuff, and I started to hear maga and I
was like, and I was like, but what about this thing?
And he'd go, oh, yeah, yeah, you got me there.

(52:56):
I don't really buy under that, and like, oh cool,
and what about this thing? Yeah yeah, you're right, And
I go, well, I mean, you love your kids, and
he's like, yeah, yeah, and I go, would you want
your kids to follow in the footsteps of No, No, no,
I don't want to. I don't want them to repeat
Donald Trump. I don't want them to be like Donald Trump.
Oh okay, so you agree he's not a good guy. Yeah,
but we don't need a good guy. We need a businessman. Okay, Well,

(53:16):
let's look at his business record. I talked about the bankrupts. Yeah, yeah,
you're right. He's thoughtful enough to go when I'm there
in front of him to go, yeah, yeah, you're right.
That's not good. Well the other day, I'd say the
other day, two maybe three weeks ago, Bernie Sanders and

(53:41):
Elizabeth Warren were grilling and I mean absolutely grilling RFK Junior.
And I sent him the video of it. And here's

(54:03):
what he sent back to me. Because RFK had no
answers for their questions, he was called to the carpet.
Here's what he said. Are you ready for this? This
is the actual text for him. Those same senators, This
is from him. By the way, those same senators who
spend all days screaming at RFK are the ones who've
been getting millions of dollars from big Pharma. Look at

(54:25):
the records from Open Secrets. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, RAFAA, Warnock,
Ron Wyden and the rest of them. The holier than
Thou crowd, Holier than Thou crowd. They love to act
outraged on camera, but behind the curtain, they're pocketing checks
from the corporations they're supposed to regulate. This is what
corruption looks like. These people are bought in all caps.

(54:48):
They don't serve you, They don't serve your family. They
serve Pfizer, they serve Maderna, They serve the insurance giants
and the hospital lobbyists. Every single time they yell at
RFK or try to s shot him down. Remember, they're
protecting the hand that feeds them. And that's why they
hate him, because he's pulling back the curtain on the
lies they've sold us for decades. Because he's exposing how

(55:10):
the so called public servants in Washington have been bought
and paid for by the same industry that made record
profits while ordinary Americans went bankrupt. He sounds like a liberal.
He says, here's the bottom line. If you take money
from big pharma, you're compromised. He is saying this to
me about Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. He says, if

(55:36):
you're compromised, you have no business to citing America's health
care policies, he says, these senators are not neutral. This
is the longest text message ever got in my life.
By the way, these senators are not neutral. They are
not honest brokers. They are owned. And every time they
wag their fingers and shout down anyone who challenges their narrative,
they prove it. RFK is a threat to the system

(55:57):
because he can't be bought. That's why they're trying to
smear him. That's why they're trying to silence him, and
that's exactly why millions of Americans are listening to him. Anyway.
It's time to stop letting Big Pharma's puppets make life
and death decisions for this country. And he included this
screenshot that I'm gonna show you right now. It's a

(56:17):
picture of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and then there's
a lot of text under it, and when I zoom
in on the text, it shows donations after donation after donation,
millions of dollars to the campaigns of multiple people with
Bernie Sanders at the top of that list, no label
to the top of the screenshot. By the way, it's

(56:37):
cut off right at the dollar amount. I then respond
with this, you found that meme on social media and
then dropped it here without looking at Open Secrets to
confirm it, didn't you. If you had gone to Open
Secrets to confirm this, you'd see a big notice at
the top that says, and I quoted it, I copied
and pasted it. Actually important. This money comes from employees

(56:59):
or affiliated with employees of the industry, not from the
companies themselves. So once again you've been lied to by
the right to make you distrust those on the left.
Its manipulation. Don't let them trick you man. Warren received
three contributions from actual pharmaceutical companies early in her senate career,

(57:21):
for a total of six thousand dollars, and it's been
ten years since the most recent donation in twenty sixteen.
Warren and Sanders Sorry. Since twenty sixteen, Warren and Sanders
have received no donations from packs related to brand Drug
Lobby PhRMA or Pharma or any of its twenty six
current member companies. No CEOs of the ten largest pharmaceutical

(57:45):
companies by market cap donated to either one of those senators.
That's right, Bernie Sanders is at zero dollars from those companies.
The number you have is from employees or groups of
employees who work in the medical industry, and OpenSecrets dot
com classifies that as a medical industry donation because it's

(58:06):
from people who work in that industry. In twenty nineteen,
Bernie Sanders stated he did not want their money and
pledged to return any and all donations from them if
he receives it, and the FEC filings backs that up. Plus,
just look at his voting record. He's consistently pushing for
universal healthcare, which those companies don't want. He puts forward

(58:28):
bills on a regular basis that limits the prices of
drugs and healthcare costs, minimizing their profits. He's the biggest
proponent of overturning Citizens United, which means, if he got
his way, corporations and super packs with those companies in
it would no longer be allowed to donate millions to politicians. Now,
why would he do all of that if he were
truly the biggest beneficiary of that money because that list

(58:51):
he sent me had Bernie Sanders at the top, because
he received the most single donations from individuals in that industry,
from nurses and medical assistance and people who work at
the plastic factory that make the syringes the people donated
to him.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
And by the way, just if I may, how telling
is it that nurses and doctors want Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
To be president or to be emboldened as to said
exactly I said. Besides, this is a distraction from the
countless lies RFK was caught in during that hearing. He
goes on podcasts and says one thing, then sits in
a hearing and says, I never said that. None of
that has a damn thing to do with Bernie Sanders.
Your meme is just smoking mirrors, so that we're talking

(59:38):
about fake corruption while ignoring the actual dishonesty of anti
vax conspiracy theorists in charge of our nation's health. The
right doesn't expect you to look this stuff up or
talk to someone like me, So please keep proving them
wrong and stay diligent. Send this stuff to me, keep
your head on a swivel. They just want your vote

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by any means necessary. And he never replied to that.
A week later, I said, I'd really like your reply
to this. I'm really interested in your thoughts on the
Sanders and Warren big farm issue. Why do you think
the right wing social media platforms would create that meme,

(01:00:19):
cut off that label that it came from people not
companies intentionally to deceive you. What do you think their
goal is? Does it make you trust them less when
you see other information from those groups? Here was his reply,
September seventeenth. Hey, I'm still gonna reply. Just haven't been
able to Radio silent since so even someone that thoughtful,

(01:00:43):
that wise, that caring and loving, when presented with evidence
that they have been lied to, they just stop talking
about it. By the way, I happen to be in
person with this man not too long ago, and we
had a free evening and I said, why don't you

(01:01:04):
come back with me to my studio and let's have
this conversation for the podcast. He said, nah, nah, nah,
I don't want to go on record with any of that.
And that's where we are, and it's this isn't about him.
This is you can copy and paste that concept, that

(01:01:25):
idea to my mom, to people in my family. They
just when you show them that what they've been told
is a lie, they just don't engage anymore. And that's
why I love this concept. I've seen liberals posts all
over the place. You don't have to admit you were wrong.

(01:01:47):
Just admit you were lied to, and let's move on.
Let's let's stop, let's stop fascism.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
But so, as you know, I was in the Younger Republicans,
so I'm still friends with all those dudes. And one
of them would post stuff and it was just straight
up bullshit lies and I would do just like you did,
and I would completely debunk it. And then I would

(01:02:17):
say to him, this is all I ask of you. Thishere,
Where did you get this? And he would show me
where he got it. I got it off this website,
like go okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
They made you look like a fucking idiot. You posted
this on social media. I debunked it in front of
the entire world in a social forum. I made you
look like a fucking moron, like you believe anything you're
fucking told. All I ask is, never go to that
website again. They make you look like an idiot. Two

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weeks later, I go to his Facebook page.

Speaker 13 (01:02:53):
He's posted another article from that same freaking website.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I don't know what to make of that. It's what
Stephen Colbert used to call truthiness back when he would
have the Colbert Report.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
It wasn't about being true, it just was about feeling true,
feeling true, having truthiness.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Liberals are pieces of shit and they hate America. So
an article that says liberals are pieces of shit and
they hate America. The facts don't have to be right.
The sentiment is right. If you know somebody who wants
to come on the show, I'm talking to the listener. Now,
you know somebody who wants to come on this show

(01:03:37):
and actually have a conversation. I would love to have
the conversation, but I just don't know if they're willing to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
Getting back to Charlie Kirk that kind of now, they
don't have to. Why would I come on a liberal podcast.
You're getting us killed. You're gonna call me a fascist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
That'll get me killed. That's getting us But I'm not though,
I'm not. I'm not gonna call anybody a fascist. I'm
gonna call you a victim of lies. And this is
a rescue mission for me. This is not an attack mission.
It's a rescue mission because you know what, because we
need Republicans. There's enough Democrats on board right now, right

(01:04:25):
the second we have the two hundred and eighteenth vote
to release the Epstein files. She's been elected and they
won't swear her in.

Speaker 14 (01:04:34):
What is he that is so mind blowing? It's so
mind blowing. This was their thing, The Epstein files was
their thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
And they don't even have to give a reason for
not swearing her in. We elected her, she won, and
they just go, no, we're not gonna swear her in.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Donald Trump said, I'll consider it hostile act anyone that
votes to release the Epstein files.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
What more freaking information do you need? That this man
is compromised in some deeply disturbing ways. I don't know
what they are. How is this not enough to impeach?
How is everything not enough to impeach? He listens an
impeachable offense. By the day, it's flooding the zone. We're

(01:05:26):
not even talking about half the things. You know that
Todd Blanche just today, did you hear this story? This
would have been the biggest story Todd Blanche. Today we
found out. Do you remember when the mayor for Newark
New Jersey was arrested by ice. YEP, tell them who
Todd blanche is Trump's former attorney. He's Donald Trump's.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Personal personal attorney, criminal criminal defense attorney. The president United
States needs a criminal defense attorney. He's been convicted of
thirty four felonies. Right that said, so he is now
the Assistant Attorney General. He's number two at the just Department.
And they have on a cops bodycam footage the conversation

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he was having with them, where he basically was not
just directing them to go arrest the mayor for Newark.
I believe it was, but he was directing the optics
of it. And he says to them, put him in
body cameras. If you have body cameras on, turn them off.
Turn off your body cameras so there's no record of this,
and then go arrest him for the optics because Donald

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Trump wants him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
I saw the video. I thought he said turn them on.
He said, turn them off. Are you sure positive we could?
We've got I saw people saying he said turn him off.
I thought he said turn them on. I saw it
on MSNBC.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
I saw a clip and I thought I thought I
heard him say turn him on. I believe he turn
them off, okay, but either way, he's directing them. The
number two at the Justice Department is directing people in
a local law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
To make an arrest. So crazy. All right, Let's let's
go back to Tom Holman. Tom Holman accepting the bribe.

Speaker 13 (01:07:02):
He accepted fifty thousand dollars cash in an a paper
bag with the explicit understanding that if he was became
to a position of power in our government, he would
direct government contracts to these people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
That is corruption of the highest order. Did he deny it. No,
he just said I do nothing wrong, which is what
Donald Trump said.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
And then the Trump DOJ dropped the charges and then
the Trump DJ again.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
This is looks so bad for Joe Biden. Just the
most impotent fucking president we've ever had. His DOJ, his
FBI had Tom Holman on record, a recording of him
accepting fifty thousand dollars cash in a.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Paper It was a freaking fast food bag, which which
fast food by I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
It's like a company I hadn't heard of, but like
I looked it up. It was like it's a Burger
king bag basically in a weekly old brown Burger king bag.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
He accepted fifty thousand dollars worth of cash. Well, by
the way historic, So you know, that's kind of the
way to do it. What do you mean. I mean,
if you're gonna move something valuable, you move it in
stuff that people don't find valuable, you know, like when
I had a criminal Well, no, I had something valuable

(01:08:29):
moved in a very cheap bag before the night of
my special filming. Yeah, I don't want to ruin the
surprise here, but I proposed to my girlfriend at the
end of my comedy special and we filmed it. And
so a person who works for me showed up to

(01:08:50):
my special with the ring. It was a very expensive
wedding ring, as most wedding rings are. And the guy
that worked for me, his far used to own a
jewelry store, and so he had security walk behind him
about fifteen feet like they weren't connected, doing nothing but

(01:09:12):
staring at him and the bag he was carrying it in.
And this this ring was wrapped in paper towels and
then like wadded up paper towels and thrown into a
paper bag from a restaurant. And he was walking around
carrying it by the handles like it was takeout, and

(01:09:33):
then the security guy was about fifteen feet behind him.
They were just walking through the crowded It was a
huge crowd they had to walk through, but not at
my special I'm not saying it was when they picked
up the ring from the location and that's how they
carried it. And then I found out later that's how
he did it. I was like, that's brilliant. He's like, yeah,
my dad used to move jewelry all the time, and
that's how we did it. We would basically put it
in trash and then walk around in public these little,

(01:09:57):
you know, burger king bags or whatever. Nobody thinks to
snap that's a burger king bag out of someone's hand.
But if it walks around saying, you know, expensive jewelry,
diamonds are us and you're carrying that around, you might
get your you know, your bag ripped out of your hand.
So if you're gonna accept a fifty thousand dollars bribe bribe,
do it, do it in a burger king bag. That's
what I say. So what you're saying is he's an

(01:10:19):
experienced criminal who knew what he was doing. No experienced
at moving valuable items incognito. Maybe that was his first
criminal offense. Every day is an impeachable offense. Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Truth socialed Now, this one's mind blowing because people have
speculated this wasn't even meant to be a truth social post.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
I just want to tell you, have my heart rate
up so much. My watch just congratulated me on completing
my steps and I haven't moved. That's my specialty. My
heart's pumped and it's like to just hit your move goal.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
I am not kidding what I say. In the age
of Trump, I don't need coffee. I wake up and
turn on the news, listen to the news, and I'm
just up and I'm angry and the adrenaline is pumping,
and I don't need coffee. But don't just do me
a favorite when you do yell, pull the mic away
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Okay, I'm just saying, I'm watching you clip over here,
Captain screaming pants. I'm a screamer whoa truth? So that
on a Saturday night meant to be actually a d
M to Pam BONDI yeah, but I said Pam. It
said Pam, and then it had like a weird aside

(01:11:45):
like about this woman Haley or whatever. Very long. It
was a very long message.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
It said like and she likes you a lot, like
who truths, Like if you're tweeting it, me say like no,
like this weird personal information. But it was saying, go
after my political enemies, arrest them. I'm being told by
the professionals, same old story, there's no there, there, can't
be done. But I'm telling you there is a there there,

(01:12:11):
and it's making us look bad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
It's ruining our reputation. He says that it's making us
look bad. It's runing a reputation. Who was the who
was the lady that that refused or looked into the
James Comy thing and said, I don't have enough evidence
to bring charges against Kobe. I was a gentleman. Was
the guy's in the southern district of Virginia. I don't
remember his name. They fired whoever it was and brought
him and they brought in a woman. I think they

(01:12:34):
brought who an insurance lawyer former Trump beauty pageant contestant
who is a lawyer for the insurance industry, has never
ever tried a criminal case, never prosecuted case ever. In addition,
for the first time in American history. We are going

(01:12:56):
after a former head of the FBI.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
You would think, go look at Jack Smith's indictment of
Donald Trump for the classified documents.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
It's seventy pages long. It has minutia, every detail, every
tea has crossed, every eye is dotted. They had a
team of lawyers go to the grand video with video
footage by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Everything, But I mean a team of the best lawyers.
She walked in by herself to the grand jury with
this flimsy, nothing of a fucking case. To go after
the former head of the FBI. We've never gone after
the former head of the FBI before.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Is James Comy the same person that released the email
thing about Hillary Clinton that many pundits at the time
said that cost her the election? I said many people did, yes,
like right at the last I mean, when I saw
it released days before the election, we're reopening the investigations
for her emails, I was like, this is going to

(01:14:01):
cost us the election back in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Is this the same James Comy that helped Trump win
by announcing that he had the email issue when there
was no.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Real issue, closed it twenty four hours later when it
turned out that he had nothing that it was the
same old emails.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Yeap, just on it. This is James Kobe though, same
James Comy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Okay, whose daughter, by the way, who was a famously
good prosecutor for the Justice Department and had taken down
like the mafia, basically was fired three weeks earlier, despite
the fact that like in performance reviews, she had glowing
reviews and had done an amazing job. She was fired

(01:14:43):
just for being the daughter of James Combe. And then
they indicted him. Do you know why they indicted him?

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
No? So well, I know why. I don't know what
reason they gave.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Here's the reason they gave, and it's actually opaque, and
it's interesting because they're not not even sure what reason
it is, which is also very strange that they weren't
very clear about why they indicted him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
But somebody leaked to.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
I believe the Wall Street Journal, it might have been
the New York Times information about Trump Russia, the Trump
Russia collusion, and when they had a hearing on it,
Ted Cruz asked James Comy, did you approve of this leak?

(01:15:32):
And James Comey said no, And apparently what happened was
the agent leaked it and then later told James Comy
I leaked it, and he said, oh, okay, whatever, that's it.
So he lied to Congress when he said I didn't
approve it, but in reality, they leaked it and then

(01:15:56):
told him about it, and I guess that equals a
tacit approval. So he lied to Congress. That's perjury, even
though they said he didn't approve it. I did it
and then told him about it after the fact, to
which he backed up and said, yeah, they told me

(01:16:17):
about it after the fact, after the fact. Nobody's saying
before the fact. Everyone's saying after the fact.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
And as if Trump hasn't done a thousand times worse
ignored subpoenas so many people have lied under oath, including
all of the justices that he's pitched or nominated pitched,
that's our word, all of the you know, cabinet members
like RFK and saying that they won't go after Medicaid

(01:16:45):
and just lie after lie after lie. None of that matters.
But they're gonna go get James Comy on this, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
They're also gonna go after Letitia James Right mortgage for
mortgage fraud or something mortgage fraud, and I have no
idea what they've got, but they're going after our senator
Shift shifty Shifty. Should you not read the d M
that he said to Pam BONDI was the name in there.
But why shifty Shift?

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
I don't know. I don't know why they're gonna go out.
But he says he wants Shifty Shift. I want him arrested.
Are you going to vote in this California elections to
uh redistrict?

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
If we could redistrict it so we could create thirty
more congressman, I would do it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Are you gonna vote off? Are you going to vote
in the midterms? Of course? Why you just said it's
not fair? And you're telling my listeners that it's not
fair because people are thinking it's not fair, They're not
gonna want to vote in it. They're gonna feel hopeless
and they're gonna give up. So so asbody to lie, No,

(01:17:51):
your your your job is to is explain the contradiction
of you saying, I'm with you it's gonna be a
rigged election, but I'm gonna vote anyway. Why why bother?
Because if enough of us vote, they can only rig it.
So far exactly. That's kind of been my underlying point.

(01:18:12):
It's our only shot if we if we are overwhelmingly
undeniable in the midterms, what are they gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
I mean, if if there's if there's a of course,
but if there's a blue wave, let's be the blue wave.
Let's let's be the blue wave. Okay, thank you. Let's
that's all they're going They cheat every year. No, no, no,
this is the electoral college is cheating. They have to cheat. No, no,

(01:18:42):
you sound like a leftist, now, who I also argue
with all the time. Listen, this is a leftist. They
go amer was a fascist country. That's not what I know.
That's not what I said mine, I know, But let's
I'll be the leftist. Let's go, I'll be thet I
have a leftist too. I'm just saying he just said
I argue with leftists. I do yes or no. The

(01:19:05):
electoral College is cheating. Absolutely, it's DEI for conservatives.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Absolutely, Okay, the Senate is cheating's DEI for conservatives. I
agree with all these things, but it's so I just
wanted to be in comparison to what they are going
to do in these mid term elections.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
What do you think they're going to do. Well, we
know they're going after mail in ballots.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
I mean, then they're going to try and pass voter
ID laws in every country, every country, county country in
the nation.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Yeah, you sound like a leftist. There's a guy you
sound like a rightist. I can't remember his name now,
but there was a guy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
He's dead now, but he was a architect for Republican
redistricting and voter ID laws. And he died and his
daughter took his laptop and released all the information on it,
and it was basically him saying like, if certain percent
of African Americans don't have IDs, and we pass voter

(01:20:03):
ID laws and they vote Democrat, this is to shave
away Democrat votes. If we Jerry manner in such a way,
this is so that it you know, I read about this.
I didn't see I didn't see the evidence, but I
read about it. I wasn't sure how.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Much to believe it's true. She's got a website. It's
called the Something Files. You can look it up.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
But I'm just saying they know what they're doing. But
redistricting and voting ideas laws they've known for a long time. That.
I mean, in California, we have voter idea laws. You
need an ID to register to vote, you just don't
need it when you go to the polling place.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Right, here's what I want to do, Man, I've got
one more thing that I have to cover on this
for sure, and it's a problem I have with the left,
and I want to get your take on it because
I've seen it repeatedly in real time from people I
know in love on the left, and I think it
may be our demise, but that's a common station to

(01:21:00):
have within our own family. So I'm gonna have that
conversation at patreon dot com slash David cysmally because I
need a break because I gotta go to the restroom now.
If you would like to talk to these people for
a minute while I step away, we'll leave that available
for the public, so you just keep their attention until
I get back, all right, So whatever you want the

(01:21:28):
views expressed on this program or none that similar fact
it was, I'm serious, or guess talking to pater David's
all right. I'll go with a little pet project of mine.
I'm sure you guys know TikTok.

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
The TikTok deal has been sealed, and it looks like
it's going to be Ellison of Oracle, Larry Elson's son,
and Lachlan Murdoch, which is the son of Rupert Murdoch
of Fox News, Lachlan being the far right lunatic son,
and and they're going to turn TikTok into, in my opinion,

(01:22:07):
a propaganda site for fascism, for Trump and fascism. And
I have been noticing on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Now. I had this conversation with David C. Smalley a
little earlier in the evening where.

Speaker 4 (01:22:19):
He's like, that's just your algorithm. But it doesn't matter
that it's my algorithm. But I've been noticing nothing but
AI videos of hot attractive women, saying if this offends you, good,
keep scrolling. But if you love Trump, you just earned
yourself a follower. And all these hot women and they're
oftentimes in military uniforms. And we know we have this

(01:22:44):
epidemic in America of lonely young men, lonely lost young men,
and that's I look, this is dark stuff and we
have to talk about it. That's who a lot of
these mass shooters are lonely lost young men in cell
people that live in these weird corners of the Internet
four Chan, And even if they understand that this is AI,

(01:23:11):
there's still just the repetition of these hot women saying,
if you love Trump, love Trump, love Trump, love Trump,
you just got yourself a follower. Like it feels like indoctrination.
It feels like something has changed with this app. And
I just I'm scared of where this is going, of

(01:23:31):
where this indoctrination is going. And I think AI is
going to be a big vehicle by which fascism in
the twenty first century hijacks the brains of the gullible
young men that fascism has historically been powered by. I

(01:23:54):
gave them the TikTok shouldiel I was giving you earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Oh okay, would you like to the restaurant now because
I have something I could share with them? All right, Okay,
thank you for leaving your mic here. Nobody wants to
hear that all that stopping and starting and grunting and farting.
Nobody needs to hear that. All right, Yeah, Michael was
showing me that earlier, his TikTok. I'm like, dude, I

(01:24:20):
think sure that's gonna be some seventeen year olds being
duped by that, and I understand is concern. Although your
algorithm has everything to do with what you engage in.
You know, if you want to engage with that type
of stuff, you're probably gonna see more and more of it.
And for my own piece, I choose not to engage

(01:24:41):
with it. I want to change the topic here for
just a second before we get into the thing I
wanted to talk about my you know, my my problem
with the left, just a personal thing. I just want
to tell you what I've been working on. I have.
I don't know if you've heard me talk about it.
I've I filmed my own comedy special. It uh, I'm

(01:25:03):
very proud of it. It's it's a It's an hour special.
I my my bring my daughter on stage and like
say say hi to her for a second, and I
proposed to my We're married now, my my wife, you know, Angelica,
and I'm very happy. I can't wait to share more
details with you all. But yeah, I proposed to her.

(01:25:26):
She was my girlfriend at the time I filmed the special,
and she was pregnant with our with our son, who
is now you know, three months old, about to be
four months old. But I filmed it, it's been edited.
It was very proud of how it was shot. It
was directed by a by John Asher, who has multiple
huge specials under his belt, So a Bastian Menascalco, Aren't

(01:25:50):
you embarrassed? He did Ralphie May Unruly, he did Margaret
at Chow. He's on like seven or eight major specials
on Netflix, Showtime, HBO comedies. He directed. We had ten cameras.
I mean, this is a high quality production for nearly
four hundred people in a theater. I filmed it in
the round, actually, so my entire background is the audience

(01:26:13):
because I'm just like in the circle. And the special
is called Good White because that's what I'm trying to
be every day, is a Good White. And I don't
have a release date right now, but I will tell
you I've got a very very important meeting on Thursday
that might just get a deal done to have this

(01:26:33):
special released. So when that comes out, I will be
telling everybody where to go grab it. And I'm really
excited about it. I've worked on it for god almost
the entire year of twenty twenty five. That's what I've
been doing is going through edits and then negotiations with
my production company and then buying rights up from different
owners that originally were executive producers, and I eventually got

(01:26:57):
to the point over this year where I purchased all
of the rights from all of the companies, so now
I one own this special. It is the most expensive
project I've ever been engaged with, but I think I'm
doing it the right way, and it'll really mean a
lot to me if you support me and go out
and buy that special wherever it's available. I'm gonna try

(01:27:17):
my best to make it really really really affordable, really
low cost, because I want everybody to enjoy essentially my
life's work in comedy. It took me about nine years
to perfect that hour that you're going to see on
my stand up comedy called Goodwite. So coming out very
very very soon. So any final thoughts before we get

(01:27:38):
into my issues on the left, Michael, bring it. I'm
excited to hear what you have to say. All right,
let's go talk about it right now at patreon dot com.
Slash David C. Smally