Ep.561: Rams FINISH season 11-8 with LOTS of optimism for the FUTURE

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, guys, welcome back to Downtown Rams. As always,
I'm Alexis Kraft, join here with my co host Jake
Allen Bogan, and we are coming to you sadly with
our last recap episode of the season. Our Rams lost
twenty two to twenty eight to the Philadelphia Eagles in
the Divisional round of the playoffs. Heartbreaking loss. We all

(00:24):
watched it. You know, we were so close, We were
so close there in the end, and you know we
couldn't pull out the win. But you know what, it
was just one of those brutal games. Second half ended
up being a snow game, Jake, and it just was
kind of the game you kind of had to grind
out and unfortunately didn't go the Rams way. And we're

(00:45):
going to talk about a lot of the reasons why
I didn't go the Rams way. But I think, you know,
I know, I speak for both of us and I'll
let you talk more about this as well, too, is
that we're just honestly, like so proud of this Rams team, regardless,
I mean the adversity that this team faced all season,
starting one in four, battling the injuries, having the really
hard schedule to come this far, is truly remarkable, and

(01:09):
we're going to talk about kind of some of the
heroes of this season and some of the things that
we liked just as much as we talk about, you know,
some of the things that need improvement, right, you know,
we'll cover it all, but I think, you know, just
to start off the episode, I think it's really important
to touch on how proud we are of this Rams team.
And you know what, we are very bummed that they

(01:29):
lost the game. They lost fair and square, there's no
denying that, and again we're going to talk about that,
but just very very proud of this team, Jake, and
really bummed that this is our last recap episode of
the season because it just it feels like this team
wasn't ready to stop playing, and you know, we really
believe that they could have advanced and really gone for

(01:53):
a strong run. But you know, it came down to,
you know, about five or six plays that you know,
over the course of playoff game against a really good
team against Philadelphia Eagles, just can't happen. But Jake, before
we kind of start to get into the nuances and
details of what you know went wrong in this game

(02:13):
against Eagles, what's your brief thoughts about the season for
the Rams.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, it ended way too early.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I think they outplayed every and this is actually the
positive and this is why I feel good about the
future in the Sean McVay Matthew Stafford are from twenty
twenty one on I don't think the Rams have ever
been outplayed in the playoffs. I think they outplayed the
Lions last year. They should have won that game. They
outplayed the Eagles, they should have won that game. You know,
I think that's a really good feeling to have where

(02:44):
you don't feel like the coach was just caught off guard.
You don't feel like Sean McVay didn't belong there, you
don't feel like they froze up. They pretty much outplayed
the Eagles for the majority of this game. And I
think a big thing here is that when you have
you know, Saquon Barkley and just the dynamism that he creates,
I mean, it just goes to show you. I mean

(03:07):
I said it earlier today, and of course Eagles fans
don't know when you're giving him a compliment or not,
but I said that, you know, Saquon Barkley would have
an argument to one MVP because there's no way that
they get to the NC title game without Saquon Barkley,
and so that pickup was huge. And you know, it's
frustrating because I would probably say, like ninety percent of

(03:28):
the game I think the Rams controlled, but those explosives matter,
and it was those three explosive runs, the Jalen Hurts run,
the two Saquon Barkley runs. Even still, the Rams came
back and they should have won the game. They were
fourteen yards away. They had an opportunity uncharacteristic false start
by Kevin Dotson, uncharacteristic just missed blocking assignment in the

(03:52):
middle by bo Limmer. Yeah, that's really all she wrote.
So it was wicked frustrating that that, you know, they
go down twenty eight to thirteen and come back and
have a chance to actually, you know, win the game
and are twenty eight to fourteen. But you know, I
just think the thing about the Rams is that they

(04:16):
just had so much resolve and they just they came
back so many times this year, and the defense had
to make stop after stop after stop at the end
of the games. And I just think the way the
season ended was pretty much how the whole year looked
like it was going to go. Is that the defense
did their job and the offense ultimately let them down

(04:38):
And is that a knock on a certain player, No,
But that was the offense having Matthew Stafford, having you know,
Pukinakua and Cooper Cup and Kyral Williams.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
They were not good enough this year. They just weren't.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
This is a team that coming into this season, I
expected them to average close to thirty points a game,
and I didn't think the defense would be nearly as
explosive as it was down the stretch. But this ended
up being a defensive minded team. And the good news
is for the Rams and fans is that they finished
as one of the hottest teams in the league. When
you're looking and it's hard to predict this legallexis, but

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when you're looking at how teams finish out the season,
the previous year kind of gives you a little bit
of an inclination of what they could do the following season.
And so with this Rams defense being as young as
they are, most of their starters will return. Really, not
too many guys are going to hit the market on
the defensive side of the ball. Really just Kellow, you know,
Michael Hoyt and Bobby Brown, and I'd love to have

(05:35):
all three of those guys back, and I think they
would as well. So we'll see how that goes. But
for the most part, everybody else is returning. Rose Boom
as well is also a free agent, but everyone else
is returning. And when you have this young nucleus they've
built in the trenches with Kobe Turner and you know,
of course Braden Fisk and Byron Young and Jared Verse,
and you know, it's really it's a really good sign

(05:58):
for the future. Jared Verse not only is the defensive
rookie of the year, he was one of the best
defensive players in the league period. So the Rams found
a lot of huge pieces for the future. And it
coincides with just who they are. I mean, the last
two years they've drafted extremely well. You go back to
the twenty seventeen season where they find Cooper Cup and

(06:19):
John Johnson, Josh Reynolds and Samson Ebu Kom and you know,
they've drafted well in the past, but they've learned from
those mistakes, those minor mistakes that most drafts, you know,
like teams would be totally fine with The Rams have
tried to find tune every little bit about their draft classes,
and they came away with a stellar draft class, a

(06:40):
stellar free agent college free agent class, guys like Jayalen
McCullough and of course Omar Spates relying on them heavily
down the stretch. And I just think that's a really
good sign because I'll tell you one thing, the Rams
are gonna have some money to play with this offseason.
Around fifty million dollars in cap space they have upwards,
you know, close to ninety million that they could They

(07:01):
could free up to ninety million as a max. Not
saying they will, because you know, that's kicking the can
down the road, but they have the potential to free
up some decent cap space and actually go shopping. And
you know, I think the defense, for the most part,
they should be trying to run it back, and I
think the offense, for the most part, they should be
trying to.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Upgrade, you know, skill position players.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I think obviously Pouk and Aku you feel great about
long term. You feel really good about Kyraen Williams. Maybe
not everybody, but you know, you and I do. And
apparently less steed because they're already talking about a potential extension.
But I just feel like when you look at this team,
the biggest things that they need to focus on if
they want to win next year are finding some you know,

(07:41):
dynamic playmakers, so finding some explosives. And you know, does
that come in the light of adding another running back
via the draft via free agency, like a JK. Dobbins
or a Ty Johnson to you know, be in combination
with Kyen I don't know. Does that come with maybe
you know, a T. Higgins, Chris Godwins somebody like that.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Baby.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
But the point is that the Rams know what they
need to fix. They know that this offense it's unacceptable
for them to not even be able to score twenty
three points in a playoff game. And I know they
almost did it, but they didn't. So that's the thing
I think going into this offseason, you feel really good
about the defense, the coaching staff stays in place, you
still have Sean McVay. Matthew Stafford is likely going to

(08:21):
come back. I don't really see. I would almost give
it like a ninety nine point nine percent chance, but
then again, you never know. I just don't see him leaving.
And so with that said, you got Kyram Williams on
a contract, you know, still one year deal left, and
then you know you have Puka Akua, like I mentioned,
Does the tight end room get overhauled, does the offensive

(08:43):
line get overhauled?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
But there are a lot of different things that they
can do to upgrade this team. And the great thing
is I don't think they have to do too many
where they can go and win a super Bowl because
they have the coaching staff and the leadership that they
currently have.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
We do want to talk about all that, but I
think we should cover the game first and kind of
because I think by covering the game, we can highlight
some of these issues right that we know need to
be fixed, you know, in the off season. So let's
let's start by giving kind of a recap of you know,
the two to twenty eight loss right against the Eagles. Now,

(09:21):
going into this game, we knew that there was going
to be a chance for bad weather. We knew going
into the game the second half was going to be
very snowy, and it was spoiler alert, but it got snowy,
it got brutal, it was very cold. Because of this, Jake,
I was a little I felt like we needed to
get going in the first half. I felt like this

(09:43):
was going to be the window for both teams. This
is going to be the cleanest you know, whether you
see all game, this is going to be your shot
to really you know, things get like really bad of
the second half, like you want to start scoring now.
So I thought that the first half, you know, it
was pretty lackluster. I want to start by and I
feel like I want to start by talking about Kien

(10:05):
Williams because my mentions have been exploding. Your mentions have
been exploding. It's a big part of this game. Jake.
You went and watched the Philadelphia Eagles game and at
SOFI right, and something that you had said when we
did that episode is you said, Kien Williams actually ran
really really well against the Eagles. Guess what, he ran

(10:26):
really well against Eagles in the playoff game too. You know,
I think everybody you know wants to talk about the fumble,
and we are going to talk about it. It's bad,
it's concerning. But if you look over the course of
the stretch of this game, unfortunately, Jake, you and I
are going to have to talk about a lot of
errors by a lot of different people of things that
went wrong. The fumble, however, was I would say at

(10:48):
the one of the top events of things that went
wrong in this game against the against the Eagles. But
I also do want to be you know, fair to Kyrone.
He ran for one hundred and six yards against a
Eagles defense. That's a pretty good yeah, in a blizzard,
I mean, and he fumbled in a blizzard. Now, I
understand not acceptable. He's got to work on the fumbles.

(11:09):
You and I are an agreement on that. We're not
excusing that. I was the first person to get on
Twitter and be like, that is not okay, right, But
Stafford also fumbled in the game. Kyron also recovered one
of stafford fumbles in the fumbles in the game. People
forget about that, you know, Jake, I think the Kira
Williams discourse is some of it is warranted. A lot

(11:32):
of it's very unfair because I think, you know, you
look at this game. If Kieren didn't have those one
hundred and six yards, I think we might have lost
by worse. I think I think it just it would
have been a different story the game had he not
run the ball, you know, really really well. Obviously the
fumbles not great, but what people also forget. So I'm

(11:52):
gonna pull up here in order of events, and there's
a couple of things I want to talk about because
to me, Jake, there's a couple plays in my mind
aside from the end, which we will talk about. The end,
which literally, as soon as I thought about that play
where Stafford got sacked by the miss block, I literally
just had chills down my spine. I wish you all
could have seen that, but I literally just down my

(12:14):
spine had chills. But you know, Jake, I think the
story in this game, Kiren's fumble bad, pukun nakua. He
had a big drop in third down, right, Tyler Higbee
had to drop in first down. Then Kyen fumbles, then
Stafford fumbles. The point is the Eagles didn't do that,
So I want to you know, I don't want to

(12:34):
downplay what the Eagles did because I think that the
Eagles ended up stepping up in a way that the
Rams didn't. But Jake, what are your thoughts on that situation?
I mean, do you let me start by saying this,
because this is what I have in my mentions right now.
If you guys follow me on Twitter. You probably have
seen everybody tweeting me this or whatever. Jake did the
Kiren fumble or the Stafford fumble single handedly cause the

(12:59):
Rams the game.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean nothing single handedly cost the Rams the game.
I think after the safety, I think the Kiron fumble
took away all the momentum the Rams had. They were
about to run the Eagles out of the building. I
have no doubt about that in my mind. After the
safety because on that run that Kien fumbles, you can
tell the Eagles now have officially let us know they

(13:23):
can't stop the Rams rushing attack. They can't. So that
was massive because that gave the Eagles. Not only did
it it end the momentum the Rams had because that
was right after the safety, but it also gave the
Eagles positive momentum and positive field position. And at that
point you've already given them, you know, three points, when

(13:45):
in reality you're dominating them at that point. The score
doesn't indicate it because you're still down by one, but
at that point you were actually dominating this team, and
I felt like we were about to see it finally
show up on the scoreboard, and that fumble annihilated all
the momentum the Rams had on the road, and when

(14:06):
you are the road team, you have to silence the
home team. Now they did that, and then the fumble
gave him something to cheer about, and then just like that,
they're right back in it. And of course they were
already leading at that point. But here's the deal. I
see a lot of people that want to throw this
game on Kyra Williams. They say, he's not explosive. This

(14:27):
needs to be a touchdown. He see he gets brought
down from behind. When you have these runs, this needs
to be a touchdown. Why why are they saying that,
I'll tell you, because this offense is inefficient. The fact
that that needs to be a touchdown is thirty yard run.
And that's what you're complaining about, because you're saying other
guys would have scored a touchdown. There the fact that
it needs to be a touchdown because this happened, This happened,

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and this happened. Afterwards, Oh well, this is a miscue.
And then he fumbles here and then to drop here,
that's on your offense.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
We're up.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
You can't put that all on Kyron because in the
past they won a Super Bowl with Sony Michelle as
their leading rusher. So miss me with the idea that
they need all this explosion at running back, and the
running back is the main issue.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
The issue is this offense is inefficient, and they have
been all year long.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
There was a drop by Pukaakua, there was a drop
by Tyler Higbee. Those guys matter just as much as
everybody else down the stretch, but they still had those drops.
And those are moments in the game that you forget about.
But that's a third down conversion there and a third
down conversion there, and that matters. And this is why
I just hate the idea of just forcing the blame

(15:38):
on one dude, especially because the running backs before Kyron Williams.
I try to tell you how under ray Darryl Henderson is,
you told me he was trash, and then you try
to tell me how great Cam Akers was. Well, Kyron
Williams is a back to back thousand yard rusher, so
let's not act like he's chopped liver.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I understand, thousand yard rushers in seventeen game seasons are
a little bit in flat. But Kyron was among the
league leaders in carries. And the other thing was we
were told all year. I know you dealt with it.
I saw it all off season long. Are we sure?
Are we positive that Kyron Williams can stay healthy? And

(16:18):
then he doesn't miss a game and everybody it's just
mum's the word. Now it's another issue with him. Here's
the problem is that you're used to big six foot
three Eric Dickerson. You're used to Marshall Fawk, who was
a superstar when they traded for him. It's why a
lot of people still want Jonathan Taylor. And you're used
to Stephen Jackson. Okay, you're used to Todd Gurley and
then the explosion. You're not used to this type of

(16:39):
running back because there's never been this type of running
back for the Rams. Kyron Williams is nothing like Falk,
He's nothing like Dickerson. He's nothing like Steven Jackson, and
he's nothing like Todd Gurley. And so that's the problem
is that people now look at that because he's not
a four to four speed guy, and he's not six
foot two, and he doesn't look like he's gonna carry
the entire offensive line and defensive line on his back.

(16:59):
Steve Jackson and Eric Dickerson, he's not good but that's
not true. Is he an all time running back in
this organization? I mean, we don't know that yet because
it's so young in his career. I would probably assume no,
because when you look at what fuck and you know
Eric Dickerson did, like they're on another level.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
But Kyron Williams is really good.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
And I just don't feel like people are understanding that
you got this guy in the fifth round and he's
just leaps and bounds better than any fifth round running
back that you would normally get. So what I can't
stand is that this guy is going out there and
he's selling his body out. He's going out there and
stepping into the face of pressure, stepping his face in
the fan, and taking on shotgun blasts to the chest

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in pass pro. And the only time people will credit
it is when the announcers will bring it up, like, oh,
did you see him?

Speaker 2 (17:50):
He declared that guy.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
But the problem is he does this quite often, and
you know, one out of every ten times he does it.
It's talked about maybe one out of every fifteen, but
the other fourteen matter just as much as the one
that you're showing on TV. So that's my issue, is
that acting like he's chopped liver, acting like he's the issue,
like the reason they lost is just bullshit. It's it's

(18:11):
not a fair analysis. And then you have these people
that don't know what they're watching and they're genuinely trying
to figure it out, like is he good?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Is he bad?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
And then you have like the non stop pushing of
this agenda that he's bad, and so people that don't
know what they're watching are just kind of going with
the flow here. They see it all over Twitter. Oh
he's bad, So I'm gonna assume he's bad. Like That's
my issue is that it's disingenuous reporting, it's disingenuous coverage.
I understand he has his faults. We already knew that
he doesn't run the fastest of everybody in the league.

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He's not Jamior Gibbs. But to act like he doesn't
have other ways that he can win is just preposterous.
It's not true. It's it's completely false. And this offense,
simply put, would not be as good if you put
Cody Schrader back there, if you put Ronnie Rivers back there,
or if you put hot shot third round pick that
everybody thought I was going to replace him and didn't
Blake Korn back there.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
And that's just the reality of it.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, you know, I think, listen, I understand people being
really really mad about a game. Kiroen made a really
really bad play. A lot of people made really really
bad plays during the game. I think that he already
had a target in his back because he'd fumbled against
the Eagles earlier in the season, right, so I think
people had that on his mind. Had he not done
that against the Eagles, I don't think that he would

(19:25):
be getting as much criticism as he's gotten. Now. You know,
Matthew Stafford also, who doesn't really fumble a lot, fumbled
twice in this game, you know, right, you had a
lot of It goes to a bigger point of what
you've been saying, Jake, is there's an inefficiency problem with
this Rams offense and that's why they've lost like a

(19:46):
lot of the loss as the Rams saw this season,
it came down to the offense just simply could not
get it done. I mean, listen, you look at the
touchdown scores for the Rams this season. Kiri Williams has sixteen.
He had fourteen rushing touchdowns to receiving touchdowns after him.
DeMarcus Robinson was seven, and then you see Cooper Cup
with six and he missed a ton of games. Pokin

(20:07):
Akua had three or four. He missed a ton of games.
Then you've got like two for Tyler Higbee, one for
Tyler Johnson, and then somebody else like it's just there's nothing.
And what does that tell you, guys? It tells you
that the Rams have had a problem the entire season
of with scoring. They haven't been able to get the
job done in the red zone. They haven't been great.

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Guess who's been the only reason the Rams can score
in the red zone. Kieron Williams. So everybody who is
on him and is really really you know, angry with him.
I understand you can be angry about a play, but
understand that we're not in that game without Kyle Williams.
You remove Kien Williams from the Rams offense, you're not
in the playoffs. I don't care what anybody says, You're
just not. Look at the scoring disparagy. Nobody else could score,

(20:49):
especially when Cooper Cup was injured, especially when pukin Akua
was injured. You had nobody doing anything and it was
frustrating as hell to watch. We all watched the one
and four start. We all watch the Rams offense struggle
the entire season, but the only person that kept them
in that was Kyen Williams, and the stats back that up.
So everybody can be as mad as they want about

(21:10):
a play. I'm mad about it too. He needs to
work on the fumbling in the off season. I believe
somebody messaged me. I haven't seen this yet, but I
believe that he did mention that somewhere today that he
needed to work on ball security. I don't know if
that's true. I have not don't quote me on this,
but I wontn't be surprised if it is. You know,
he's acknowledged after games when it's happened. But I just

(21:32):
I think it's like people, I get it when you're
angry the Rams lost. I mean, if people want to
be angry, we need to talk about the last offensive
drive of the game, Jake. I mean, if people want
to be angry, let's talk about the last offensive drive
of the game where the Rams had the game. In
my mind, I mean, after that Puka Nakua god like catch,

(21:55):
I mean, my god, he has so many of these
Jake that at some point, you know, you just us
like have to almost be unsurprised, but still so fun
to watch. But he has this amazing catch. I mean,
I'll let you give your thoughts in it first because
I just went on a rant. But Jake, after Pookinakua
makes that sideline catch, I'm like, there's no way the

(22:17):
Rams lose this, Like this is like there's no way
storybook ending is right here. Pokinakua makes this amazing catch
and then everything that could go wrong went wrong. Jake,
what'd say you?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Well, accurring to Eagles fans, they were in uh prevent
defense and it was garbage time. Anyway, I'm I'm done
talking about low football IQ people. But look, I absolutely
thought the game was like they were gonna win it.
And then the fourth as soon as the sack happened,

(22:51):
I was like, fourth down, this, this thing's over. I
had no faith. And I actually want to bring up
something that was kind of the big deal. Even before
the season started. We overlooked it. We both did. I
think every Rams fan did. This offensive line was built
to run the football and because of that, even when

(23:13):
they got healthy, when push came to shove this pass
protection was not good enough. I think that they got
way too like like they committed before the season to
build that thousand pounds of beef up front. Remember how
many times they're, oh, they have about a thousand pounds.

(23:33):
I've never heard that brought up as much as it
was this offseason. I brought it up once. People brought
up all the time. They got Jonah Jackson, they got
Kevin Dotson, you have Steve Ovula, you got these just
absolute maulers in the trenches. This team is gonna run
a ton And so I think a lot of people
because of that, you know, we're like, oh, okay, so

(23:53):
it's gonna be like you know, Kyron seventy percent of
the time, Blake Korn thirty percent of the time. But
the problem is it's like shit, ter get off the pot.
And I feel like the Rams totally got off the
pot right before the season, and when you already put
the plan in motion in March and you sign a
Jonah Jackson with a Kevin Dotson and you move Steve

(24:15):
Ovula the center, and then right before the season you're like, oh,
actually we're gonna shuffle everything. Steve Ovula is gonna go
back to left guard. Jonah Jackson, who we paid a
lot of money to is gonna play out a position
at a position he's never played before. And now all
of a sudden, forget about just the moving and everything.
You focused on building your offensive line to run the football,

(24:39):
and you do not have a premier pass protecting offensive
line like say the Eagles, say the Lions. Right when
you look at the Rams offensive line, alert Jackson is
maybe their best pass protector. Then after that Ovula is
the run you know, run blocker Jonah Jackson run. Kevin

(25:00):
Katson is a better run blocker. I though he's a
good pass protector, and Rob Havenstein wall good. He struggles
against the speed guys, and he is known as the
premier run blocker. So this is a very run blocking oriented,
heavy offensive line. And the problem is that they stayed

(25:20):
committed to that. Okay, they didn't. You could tell even
with the injury to Puka Nakua. Sean McVay wanted to
throw this football. He just wants to throw the football.
People call him Sean mcpass for a reason. I think
it's kind of ridiculous. I mean, I think he's become
more balanced over the years, but The point is it
wasn't even about being balanced. When you go out and

(25:41):
you focus that much attention on running the football, then
guess what you got to run the football. I mean,
like your offensive line is built to win in the run.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Game, it's not built for pass protection.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
The thing that people don't understand is that just because
Stafford went four straight weeks down the stretch without a
people now think that the pass protection was like elite.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Stafford was doing things where he was getting off script
and he was making guys miss, and those are things
that are we called hidden stats, hidden.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yardage if you will.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Well, guess what, when it's freezing cold and it's snowing
and there's snow on the ground, you have no footing,
you can't do that as well. So when they got
any sort of pressure on Stafford, he was basically like
a deer in the headlights because he knew he couldn't,
you know, slide around in the pocket much because there
just wasn't a footing. You know, there wasn't any sort

(26:35):
of traction or anything there. You can't move around like
you can at Sofi Stadium. So that is what happened.
That was the issue that's what cost him the game.
There are a lot of things that cost him the game,
but not having a pass protecting minded offensive line hurts.
And what I really want to know is this offseason,

(26:55):
there are a lot of things that are gonna happen. Okay,
there are a lot of things that could happen, but
there are a lot things that are going to happen.
What I'm curious about what's going to happen Stafford? What's
the deal with him? Because I do believe he's back,
But is that back for this year? Is a farewell tour?
Go and win it all in your last year? Is
it a two year, is it a three year? What

(27:17):
does that look like? What's the deal with Cooper Cup?
Do you bring him back? I mean at that cap number,
I don't think that's even possible. At twenty nine million dollars,
that's elite money. You know, what do you do there,
Jordan Whittington? Are you going to balk at the opportunity
of starting him after you know the limited opportunities he
showed you he should be a starter or you're just

(27:39):
going to say, well, you know, he's a he's a
six round pick. I think we can do better, and
then he's gonna get pushed aside. You know, is he
going to be the next two to two at well?
Because that Will always had the talent they drafted in
the second round, but they never utilized him.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
What's the deal with tight end? You know? Do you
bring back Tyler Higbee?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
I mean everybody would say yeah, right the way he
finished off the season, but he's thirty two? Well what
does that look like like? You know, are they Stafford?
They can go one or two ways, Alexis. They could
go all hands on deck, veteran look where they bring
in some veterans, they keep the veterans. Or they could
go Stafford can win it all. But we're gonna start

(28:19):
going younger. We're gonna follow suit with the defense. We're
gonna actually do that with the offense. So they move
on from a Rob Havenstein. Uh, you know, maybe they
move on from Tyler Higbee and they start, you know,
move on from cup and they start looking more young.
They are one of two ways that they can go
with this. I don't know which one they'll choose, But
I don't think it's a guarantee that haven Stein is back.

(28:41):
I don't think it's a guarantee that Higby's back. I'd
love Higbee back, and I wanted to retire a RAM,
but I just feel like right now they are in
the same position they were in in twenty twenty, well,
twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, following their divisional loss.
Stop me if this sounds familiar divisional law in the
cold it you know, against the Packers. I mean when

(29:05):
they lost that game, you were annoyed because you knew
Donald was thirty percent healthy in that game, barely played.
That's the one where he had tears coming down his eyes.
Cooper Cup didn't play golf, wasn't one hundred percent. He
gutted it out. I thought he had some really good moments.
That's a great game to ed Non. I think you

(29:28):
know for that being his last RAM game, but you
knew even before that, like I was already over Jared Goff.
I appreciate his contributions. I appreciate the way he finished
out his career against the Packers. I was gutsy, but
I was ready and I've wanted Stafford since twenty fifteen.
So when they traded for Stafford, as you'll remember because

(29:48):
you came on my show back when I had the
studio and everything you called in, I said that they
were going to win the Super Bowl right then and
there because they knew they were a quarterback away.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
This this team is.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Not a quarterback away because that would implicate the idea
that Stafford is the issue. And a lot of these
imbeciles that are talking about this game are like, Stafford
didn't get done.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
He took the sack. He was folded like a lawn chair.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, most of these people have watched three Rams games,
and two of them were games where their team played
against the Rams. But either way, Stafford showed you, and
we talked about this. He wasn't healthy after that hit
he took against the forty nine ers. He showed you
as soon as he got good again and he got healthy,
he's still got plenty left in the tank. He was

(30:42):
by far the best quarterback. And you know against Minnesota,
he was by far the best quarterback against Jalen Hurts
at you know, Lake and Financial, I wasn't remotely close.
They looked like they're playing a different sport. He's fine,
he's ready to go. You can win a super Bowl
with him. He wasn't the reason they lost. So now

(31:04):
what do you add. I think you add another big
play threat, and I think they are one elite you
know break I would say they're one elite game breaking
player away, very similar to the past, but unlike quarterback.
I think they need that one more pass catcher. Is
that Tyler Warren out of Penn State? Is that Loveland?

(31:27):
Is that Fannin? Is it even in the draft or
maybe t Higgins, Chris Godwin?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Who is that?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I don't know, but I feel like they need one
more guy, and the reason being not to put it
all on Cooper Cup Alexis, but Cooper Cups fall off
because of the injuries. They don't have that elite receiver
out there, but they have that elite money being allocated
on the books, and I think that's hurting them.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, I agree, you know, I think they've got to
get a pass catcher who is fast. Right. That explosiveness,
I mean, everybody wants to hyper fixate on explosiveness in
the run game. Well guess what you have that elsewhere?
It doesn't matter so much, right if you are missing
it from the run game. The Rams offense entirely was

(32:12):
really missing explosiveness. So I think they've got to get
somebody explosive. They've got to get also, somebody who can
score in the red zone, like we talked about earlier.
I mean, there has to be other players on the
team that are efficient in the red zone. And if
there isn't, then you know, the play calling has got
to dramatically change because you can't have that huge disparity
that we talked about earlier. You've got to find somebody

(32:34):
other than Kyram Williams who can score in the red zone.
And you know what, I understand that Pooka was hurt
a lot of the season two. I do think that,
you know, it might have been different if he had
played more. But yeah, they've got to find an answer,
you know. And I think I think a tight end
like you mentioned, like a Warren or a love one
would be really intriguing for that reason, you know. And

(32:57):
also again it's just diversifying your offense, diversify the skill
set because when you have these other avenues that you
can go to aside from just a Kien Williams, aside
from just a pook and Akua, your opportunities open up
and the Rams need that. And again it's something it
relates to the playoff game. Because it's a problem that
we saw the entire season, but everything I feel like

(33:19):
that the Rams needed to work on got it very
hyper exposed in this game, you know, against the Eagles,
and it ultimately you know, and the being being the difference.
You know, the Rams were not able to unfortunately get
it done. I mean that I do believe, I will
forever believe that they should have won after that Pooka
Nakula catch. They had it. They just they It's frustrating. Obviously,

(33:43):
you know, the real nail in the coffin was obviously
penalty on Kevin Dotson and then the miss block on Bolimmer.
I mean those two. And I give the offensive line
a lot of credit though, because they've really, you know,
stepped up in a lot of big moments throughout this season.
But unfortunately, you know, it happens, you know, end of

(34:04):
the playoff game, you know, in the snow playing against
Jalen Carter, you know, they they just they they made
some mistakes and you know, we weren't weren't able to capitalize.
But you know, I again, I don't blame specific players
for this loss. It's a team sport. No one who
plays in the National Football League will ever blame a

(34:24):
singular player for a loss. I mean, maybe it was
like the Mark Andrews play. I didn't personally watch this
game live because I was still very upset. But you
know how how everybody's blaming Mark Andrews for the Ravens loss.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Lamar Jackson's blaming himself for throwing a stupid interception.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
As he put it, well, yeah, it just you know what,
And again I always I've said it a million times.
This pie has never put yourself in a position to
lose by a play, just, don't you know what I mean?
Like these close games, it's it's always easy to blame
the last person. Like it's easy for people to get
on Twitter and be mad at Bowlimmer because he missed
the blog. Yes, theoretically sure that was. But you know what,

(35:05):
don't Kevin Dotson and we looked before then committed the
penalty right or you look at like you can you
can always backtrack. It's just it's very lazy to me
to see people try to throw out the blame on
certain players. I just and I think it discredits, you know,
the work that these guys put in. I agree with
throughout an entire game. And uh, Yeah, I just I

(35:26):
don't like it. So I think people should be a
little kinder when they speak about Bowlimmer on social media.
I don't think it's very helpful and I don't think
it's accurate. I mean, he made a bad play. He did.
Anybody couldn't. Anybody could have made a bad play. You
know what, Stafford could have thrown the ball and that
play right to pukata Kua. What if it was an interception?
Would everybody then be blaming Stafford for the loss? It's
just see what I mean, It's just this thought process

(35:48):
is very flawed.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Well, it's like how Eagles fans continue to bring up
how they dropped four interceptions. It's like, that's not the
that's not the gotcha you think it is, like you
drop four interceptions, that's on you. You know who always
brings up dropped interceptions the forty nine ers, Oh Tart
dropped it. Not only are we gonna you know, when
that gets brought up, I'm like, okay, well, Jalen Ramsey
dropped two interceptions if you want to play that game.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
But we're not arguing over who dropped.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
What.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
We're talking about wins and losses.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
And I think The thing about Limmer is that he's
got a bright future, and the thing we saw this
year is that he was really good for being a
sixth round pick. With that said, though, this is these
are the things you live with, right This is like,
when you start a rookie center, you have to know, like,

(36:36):
how is he going to respond it? Late in a
game in an environment like that, I mean, he froze essentially,
and I think it's definitely fair to criticize him. I
also think it's fair to defend him, but I also
think like the assumption he is the center of the future,
I also don't think it is fair because you know,

(36:57):
go back and look at Coleman Shelton. I mean there
were times where it's like, yeah, you know, they really
like him. He's better than Coldman Shell. And I'll tell
you that right now. I didn't think Shelton's a bad player,
but he's an upgrade over Shelton. But I will tell
you I think the best offensive line the Rams could
come up with is if Steve Ovula is back at
center like the plan was last year, and Jonah Jackson

(37:18):
is playing at left guard. And it's not that bo
Limmer lost his job. You know because of this game.
I would have done this regardless of this game. Bo
Limmer was in at center because he was the hot hand.
He had started those games when those guys were out.
But Jonah Jackson can help this team, and I know
a lot of people want to trade him. And it's weird,

(37:40):
you know, we get into this whole h you know,
we're coming up with mock trades. It's almost like sometimes
people take it a step too far and they want
to help the other team out more than they want
to help themselves. And I just don't think trading bow
excuse me, I don't think trading Jonah Jackson to the
Bears just because it'd be a nice reunion for Ben
Jonson makes any sort of sense for the Rams. Not

(38:02):
only could the Bears be a problem next year with
Ben Johnson, because keep in mind, I mean, I had
to win ten games this year. If they had actual coaching,
they would have, so they're gonna be good next year.
They could be a problem next year for the Rams.
But not only that, Jonah Jackson is probably one of
your better players on this offensive line, and he wasn't
playing because he was just the odd man out, and

(38:23):
it was during a win streak, and you're not going
to mix and match and do all these different things
when your team is winning, right, It's when they're losing
then you start to make these decisions. So that's the thing.
Or there's an injury, like do you think Troy Reider
ever was gonna come out of this out of this
defense if he didn't get hurt. I don't think so.
I don't think they ever go to Omar Spates if

(38:45):
they didn't if Troy Reider didn't get hurt. And it's
the same thing with when it was Darius Williams and
Kobe Durant. Kobe Durant getting hurt at the end of
the Bills game gave Akello Witherspoon that kind of renewed
energy that were nude optimism, not him, and he was
always ready to play, but I felt like the coaching
staff had kind of abandoned him. He barely played against

(39:07):
he didn't even play at all against the Saints, really
barely played against the Vikings. He was starting to lose
his place in the rotation, and then all of a sudden,
Kobe goes down late in that Bills game, and sure enough,
Kello goes on this run that was crazy. It's probably
gonna get him paid as well, and it might even
be by the Rams now because of it. But it
is a reminder that when the Rams were in that streak,

(39:29):
they were winning, they you know, they weren't going to
bench anybody, like when you're losing, then you bench guys.
And after the Dolphins game, it was kind of like, hey,
we need to make some significant changes, and unfortunately Jonah
Jackson was essentially the odd man out. And I'm not
saying he should just be given the job Alexis. I'm

(39:51):
not saying that at all, but what I am saying
is this offseason he deserves to earn.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
That role again.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
He deserves to be able to go out there and
work for it, and they paid him to do a job.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
He got hurt.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
We all knew he had an injury history before this signing,
but so did Nopum, so did Ovula, so did Rob Havenstein,
everyone except for Kevin Dotson, who played every single game
although he played injured. And yeah, Alec Jackson because he
didn't miss a game because of injury, he missed a
game because he was suspended. I mean, for the most part,

(40:29):
when you look at that Jonah Jackson wasn't just exclusively
taking money from the Rams and being unreliable.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
There were a lot of injuries.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I don't think Ovula looked the same after those injuries,
and I'm hoping he recovers in year three, but I
wasn't overly impressed with the way he finished out his season,
and I really do like the guy.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
And it's just I don't know. It's just a reminder
that you know, I'm.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Not necessarily saying to just give the starting job to
Jonah Jackson, but you absolutely got to give him an
opportunity to make a run at one of these starting
five jobs. And if that means like, Okay, hey, maybe
we got to move him the right tackle and we
move on from Hayden Stein and he works out at
right tackle, by all means, but you gotta try and

(41:14):
do something because I'll tell you this right now, Okay,
Jonah Jackson is gonna get paid a lot, regardless if
you trade him or if you cut him. So if
you want to eat all that dead money and get
nothing out of it and cut your losses, by all means,
they've done it before. It's not like it's never happened.
But this is the offensive line, so even if he

(41:35):
doesn't crack the starting lineup, he is valuable. Okay, they
paid Joseph Noboom ten million dollars last year, knowing full
well he wasn't even gonna start, So the offensive line
is valuable. It's good to have a guy with, you know,
some versatility. He might not be the best center in
the world, but he can play three of the five positions.

(41:55):
I still believe he'd be able to play right tackle.
I really want to see them give Jonah Jackson a shot.
I'm hoping. I'm advocating to the Rams front office to
not just send him away because I think it'd be
a mistake.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I agree with you, you know I do. I do
agree with you and something that I know you and
I both agree on, it's gonna be Jared Verse in
this game. Jake Listen. I came into this season the
biggest Jared Verse fan. He was who I wanted the
Rams to draft right He was my number one, you know,
edge guy in the class. I really pounded the table

(42:32):
for Jared Verse. I was ecstatic when the Rams got it,
and he did not let me down. Jake. They I mean,
they killed it with this pick. Jared Verse. In my opinion,
I don't even think it's a question. He's the defensive
rookie of the year. I don't really know anybody who
comes close. Honestly, I know Eagles fans, you know, think

(42:53):
it should be their guy Mitchell, but we shouldn't. Yeah,
it shouldn't. It should absolutely be Jared Verse. I mean,
the guy has just been a stud all season, Jake.
And you know what, going into this game against Eagles,
the Eagles had their bulletin board material material right of
the Jared Verse quote about not liking Eagles fans or

(43:15):
whatever it was that he said and getting angry when
he sees the green and the white. Well, I thought
that he backed it up, Jake. I know that. You know. Sadly,
we didn't win the game. But Jared Verse had a
great game. I mean, he absolutely dominated that Eagles offensive line.
I was surprised that he only ended up with two sacks,
to be honest. Yeah, he was playing like he should

(43:36):
have had more.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
No, I know, but don't.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
I don't look too much into the sacks because I think,
like for his season, he could have easily finished with
like fifteen, and you know he finished. I think it
was like four and a half or whatever. The pressures
he had were ridiculous. I mean, he was among the
top five in the league. And this is the guy
that you saw as well as some other guys, But

(44:00):
this is a guy that you saw that when the
lights got brighter, he got better. And that's the thing
I really want to take away from this is that
a lot of these young guys were seeing the bright
lights of the postseason for the first time and they
didn't bat an eye. Say what you will about the
Barkley runs. That hurts the defense, and it does, you know,

(44:24):
But at the same time, like, look at what they
did against the Vikings, like you know what I mean,
they dominated that game and you saw some of the
younger you know, these younger guys step up in a
big way, and you saw leaders emerge, and I just
feel like there's a lot of good to take away
from this. The defense, Braden Fist goes down and it's

(44:45):
just like this this next man up approach immediately. Neville
Gallimore just had maybe the best game of his career,
you know.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
And it's not in that moment.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
He's not just like, oh if I do well, I'm
gonna get paid he just stepped up into a role
and he was the best damn player that he could
possibly be. And the same thing goes for Deswan Johnson,
and the same thing goes for you know, a lot
of these guys like a Kello for instance, Like I
mentioned earlier, you know, this is a guy who should
have been paid last year. It's not you know, a

(45:16):
biased standpoint, it's not you know, oh, I'm.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Always right, but I was right.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Trey White was coming off two of the three major
injuries you could have that could cost you a career.
He had both of them in the last three years,
and he was coming off in achilles tear. And to
give him that money upfront was just ridiculous. And to
give it to him over a guy that just started
eighteen games for you, had the familiarity within your defense

(45:43):
and was a leader was even more ridiculous. And sure enough,
Kello came in and he immediately made an impact, so
did Darius Williams. They worked well in tandem. Same thing
with Kobe Durant and you could really see it. And
there's there's a picture of Kello where he's on AJ
Brown and he does not give a single f about

(46:05):
AJ Brown. In that moment, he's making sure he's pointing
over and getting his team lined up. That's the type
of guy he was. You know, this year he and
Quinton Lake became essentially like the leaders of the secondary.
A lot of people don't know that. You watch the tape,
you could see them. They are constantly communicating with the defense,

(46:26):
getting the linebackers lined up. And I think in a
lot of respects, while we do look at how you know,
Omar Spates, his addition made it easier on Rose Boom,
and Rose Boom immediately looked better, we don't look at
what number four did when he came in and just
the immense like ascension of this team from the moment

(46:48):
at Kello Witherspoon takes over after the forty four to
forty two game against the Bills, and people weren't talking about, wow,
we beat the Bills. A lot of people were talking about, wow,
this defense gave up forty two. That's unacceptable. Well then
look at after that. Akello Witherspoon starts in week fifteen
against the forty nine ers and they never look back.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
And so you have him.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
You got you know, Kobe was banged up, so you
got him and you got Darius, you got Christian rose
Boom and Omar Spates that are getting lined up correctly
because of the communication of Quinton Lake and Akello. Because
a lot of defenses, like say the Eagles, I believe
in this game, they had Zach Bond as the green
dot right. So normally you have a linebacker as the

(47:29):
guy that is, you know, dealing with all the signals
and getting guys lined up and you know, telling guys
different things and what have you. But the Rams operate
a little bit differently. They want the guys to be
like the captains. They want them to be in the
secondary because they can, you know, kind of oversee everything.
And so that's the thing Akello and Quinton Lake are
constantly talking about these talking to these guys, getting them ready,

(47:51):
getting them lined up, and it makes their job easier.
And I just think when you're able to get everybody
in position. You got the way a Kello played, only
giving up four total receptions to Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison,
A J.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Brown, and Devonte Smith in the postseason combined. And then
you got, you.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Know, the way Kobe Durant's playing, the way Kobe Turner's
playing the way Braden Fisk and Jared Vers and Byron
Young who kind of just gets forgotten about way too often.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Byron Young had himself a really good postseason as well.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
And then you know, you have the linebackers like I mentioned,
you got Quinton Lake, you got Cam Curle, you know,
just so many different things that are going on, so
many good things for the RAMS defense. And that is
what makes them so scary, is that they just have
so much talent. And they might not be you know,
ninety overall in Madden or whatever. I don't know who

(48:43):
still plays Matt and I don't but you know, they
might not be ninety overall in Madden, but what they
are collectively is one of the best defenses in all football.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
And they prove that down the stretch.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, I mean I was really impressed, you know, with
how they played against the Eagles. I mean obviously the Eagles.
Uh the defense's weakness against the Eagles. I just mixed
up defense and Eagles.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Uh yeah that.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I don't know how that happened.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
The Desert Eagle from uh Call of Duty. The Eagle.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Is that a thing? I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
I forget what it has, Like a fifty I don't know,
it's a it's a big hand cannon, That's what I
would say.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Is that good? I don't know anything about I played
Call of Duty? Was it Call of Duty Ghost? Was that?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
My god, that's a throwback, because.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, I had one Call of Duty game that I got,
I think in high school, and I was very obsessed
with it for a few weeks and then stop playing it.
But I think it was Call of Duty Ghost anyways.
Was not trying to make a Call of Duty reference.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Just why I'm trying to think about when that was.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I think it was like two thousand. It had to
be like two thousand, two twelve, because it was probably not.
It was probably when I was not like having boyfriends,
you know. I think it was before this was, you know,
before I had a social life. So I'm pretty sure
it was like twenty eleven, twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I think that's the only one I didn't play multiplayer on. Oh,
no Infinity or Infinite Warfare. I never touched that with
a ten football.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
No. I had the Ghost one and I liked was
it campaign mode?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:28):
I mean story My favorite will always be the original
Black Ops.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
But that's just me. I always loved it never played it.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, I well, Black Ops. I think I played like
if I would go to friends' houses and they had it.
You know, maybe because the whole reason I bought Call
of Duty. We're on such a tangent nowt the whole
reason I got Call of Duty Ghost was because I
think I had played Black Ops like I'd gone to
secass houses and I was like, oh, that might be

(51:01):
you know, I kind of like this, like right when
I was playing it. So then Ghosts came out and
I got Call of Duty Ghost, okay, and kind of
got tired of it, I think, probably relatively quickly. But
me and my neighbor would play it. She'd come over
and we would play Call of Duty. Ghost doesn't love
in two twelve. Anyways, I just mixed up my words.

(51:22):
What I was trying to say before that entire conversation
about Call of Duty was the one thing, you know
that that really kind of killed the defense this game
was Saquon Barkley, right. I mean those explosive runs by Saquan,
you know, the Rams run defense just at certain moments

(51:43):
just absolutely crumbled. I mean the one touchdown by Jalen Hurts,
I mean that was brutal. I mean that was kind
of what killed the Rams this game on the defensive
side of the ball, uh, which you know, again it's
a playoff game, you've got a young defense, it was snowing.
I mean, it just everything that's obviously working out of

(52:05):
both teams favors. So you know, we can't dwell on
it too much, especially because again they had a really
really good year. The defense kept us in a lot
of games because, as we've talked about, you know, the
offense just wasn't good enough this year. They just weren't.
And it's okay to say that they've got a lot
of really talented players. They were able to do something

(52:26):
right with what they had. Then they had a really
good game right against the Bills. People forget about that.
I mean, so they had the ability, they just didn't
get it done in too many games this season, and
against the Eagles, you know, when it mattered. So you know,
I think the def and I think the defense just
deserves a lot of credit. You know, obviously hold them

(52:48):
accountable for those Saquon Barkley runs and the Jalen Hurts touchdown, right,
But I thought overall, the defense played a really good
game I mean a seven sacks. I mean that's great.
I mean, you know, they they played a really good game.
They had those moments, right uh you know with Barkley
that that ended up being, you know, just they couldn't

(53:08):
overcome it. But overall, I thought they played a relatively
good game. And yeah, I thought, you know, guys like
Jared Versus and Branden Fisk especially, who, by the way,
are final AP finalists for Defensive Rookie of the Year officially,
if people, I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
It should be yeah, I think yeah, I mean, it
better be verse. It's going to be. There's no point.
I mean, pro football writers of America have verse, so
that kind of normally tells you unless they really screw
it up. But we got super chats, so let's uh,

(53:45):
let's dive into those. Saylor Swift, I never get tired
of that name. I love that name. Thank you for
the five Drake stoops. Do you think we'll see him
play more next year? Never say never. Austin Trammell kind
of a lot of people forgot about him. Was on
the practice squad, got elevated fifty three special teamer, and

(54:07):
then all of a sudden he's getting offensive reps.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
In twenty twenty three. Never say never.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
I don't necessarily believe Stoops is gonna be on the
fifty three. He's probably a guy that will kind of
stick around the practice squad.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
He gives them a look in the scout room, like
you know, he was what was he?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
He was supposed to be Jackson Smith and Jigba, I
think like emulate that. So it was either him or
Tyler Locket. I think it was Jackson Smith and Jigba though.
But on the scout team, he's definitely valuable. He gives
them good looks. And you know, when you have a
scout team that can emulate your you know what you're
gonna see on offense for your defense, and you have

(54:45):
a guy that can, you know, do it well, it's
making everyone around him better. It's why I always say,
you know, when people are always like two times super
Bowl champion, the guy didn't even play, It's like, yeah,
but he was part of that scout team that these
guys prepared, and you don't know, maybe some of the
preparation of being a Jackson Smith and jig But helped

(55:07):
the Rams out. You know when they played them, You'll
you'll never know, but there there's value there, so Stoops
will be in the building. I just don't necessarily think
he's gonna have a huge role or anything like that,
but we'll see. Stranger things have happened, Deb, But thank
you for the twenty got my alert, Yeah, got my alert.

(55:29):
So popping in real quick to say thank you. You're
the bestest I've enjoyed getting to know you through this channel.
Hope to meet you at a game next year at
Okay out of town.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Got to run. Oh yeah, thank you, Deb. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Sorry, I'm bad at reading, so I mean alexis the
one that reads the books. Maybe I should just have
her read all the super chats from now on. There
you go, it's all yours, all right, I was serious?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
All right, Well from Craig. Five dollars. Thank you so much. Craig,
appreciate it. Thank you for watching, he said. kW said
he needed to work on ball security and getting faster
so could break away. That humility really touched me. I've
had a change of heart. Well, thank you, Craig. I
haven't actually so that was what I was alluding to earlier.

(56:20):
I saw the comments about it, but I haven't actually heard.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Well, Kyen said, yet you imagine if he could get faster,
it's possible.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
God said, you'd be Yeah, I mean he could. And
by the way we've he does have that ability. Like
remember the play that I first showed you ever if
Kien milimes you remember that play, it was a ninety
nine yard touchdown through the entire team. It was a
little listen. I get it's not what people want to
say for explosives, but still he has the ability to

(56:51):
find ways. But I agree, But yeah, thank you Craig.
And I haven't actually seen that interview yet, but I
believe it. I believe that that's something that he would say.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
He needs to contact Cooper Cup and be like, man,
I watched your twenty seventeen film and no disrespect, but
you're slow as hell in this one. And then I'm
watching twenty nineteen after the torn acl and you're like fast,
So like what gives?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Like how did this happen?

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I mean, come on, I'm not saying he has to
say it like that, but yeah, you watch Cooper Cup
in twenty seventeen. He was slow, like he was a
slower receiver, not fast at all. You wouldn't like mistake
him for Tyree Kill, not saying you wouldn't mistake him
for Tyrie Kill, like say during the Triple Crown season,
but that one touchdown he has where he slows down,

(57:43):
catches it against Tampa and he's just gone. Or like
the one catch he made where he had the two
hundred plus yard game against the Bengals right before the
bye week in twenty nineteen, Cooper Cup just looks so
much faster after his torn ACL I'll never understand it.
I don't know if he has like a bionic or
a bionic leg or something, but oh my god, I've

(58:05):
never never understood why he's so much faster than he
was in like twenty seventeen. I'll never understand it. But
if Kyroen can get that with everything he already has
because he can work on ball security, I feel like
you know now that it's really like taken hold this
year because I think he had six or seven fumbles

(58:26):
if you include the postseason.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
He's going to put an emphasis on that.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
And this is a guy that works extremely hard, and
I just don't think people understand there are players that
take an off season and they just enjoy and they
relax and they don't get much better and you could
see it. They're a player that always kind of stays
the same. They don't have any breakouts or anything like that.
Kiern Williams is not that type of player. He is
going to be working his ass off to get better,

(58:52):
and I do believe he's going to be better next year.
And I think that'll be better in ball security and
I have a feeling he's going to get some speed
training going well. He'll he'll be a tick better, maybe
a tick faster, Maybe he'll he'll lose like five pounds
or whatever he needs to do.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
But I think you'll see more speed next year.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I do would love to see it all right. Next up,
thank you Detects. Super chat from dtext said, since McVeigh
rams have improved every year until they make the Super
Bowl next year, we're going we're making it to the
NFC Championship at the very least. Hey, I would love

(59:34):
to see it.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, No, definitely close.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
We're so close this year.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I mean no, I what's so bizarre to me is
that I don't feel like Sean McVay has had an
elite offense since they've won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
And.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
They didn't even have what I would call an elite
all like they didn't have really a run game like
I mean, they had it, but it would it wasn't
like top ten or anything. Just wait because if they
do it this year with what we've already seen with
the defense, I mean, they could be really dangerous. I
mean they should be vying for the number one seed.
I said it coming into this year. I'll say it again.

(01:00:15):
The number one seed needs to be the goal because
if you have you know, everybody running through Sofi Stadium,
well you're already you've jumped the gun. As soon as
you you know, put together that number one seed. Not
only do you get the bye week, but you also
have a chance to sell season tickets for the division
round for the NFC title game, and that gives you

(01:00:37):
a lick up plus next year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Alexis, do you know where the Super Bowl is?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Oh man, it's a San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
So if they had a chance to win the Super
Bowl on their turf after beating the forty nine ers
when they called it, you know, but so Fi I
forget what they call it, Levi South, that's what they
call it. If they had a chance to do that
and then go to Levi Stadium and win the Super
Bowl there. Oh my god, that would be the biggest

(01:01:10):
fu to your rival. So I'm not saying that's like
one hundred percent going to happen. But what is worth
mentioning is I'm almost positive Sofi Stadium is the following
Super Bowl. So right back at at home.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I hope we don't have to wait that long.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah. No, I'm not saying, yeah, let's wait until.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
No. I want to win it on the forty nine
ers field.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I think that would be you can ever take that away.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
So yeah, that'd be huge, would be huge.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Zaylor Swift appreciates you. All I'm saying is Kiren's volume
needs to be lower next year. Now I agree with
this because I don't think it's sustainable for any running back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
And he's not the biggest running.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Like he's filled out, you know, he's like I think
he's two ten now, but he's not the biggest running back.
And so to give him the most touches a RAMS
players had since Steven Jackson's that's asking a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Well, yeah it's And also again people talk about fumbles.
Your work the higher your workload, your chance to do it.
You know, obviously skyrockets, and also durability. I mean, a
huge people's reason to not like Kyron going into this
season was the durability. Right, That's all that we heard is,
oh my god, he's going to get hurt three games
in the season whatever. He played every single game, and

(01:02:38):
I don't see anybody giving him credit for it, especially
because of the insane workload that he had. So not
only did he play every single game without an injury,
he carried the ball what over four hundred times? Yeah,
it's I mean, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
I had brought that up earlier, and I'm just kind
of like, you know, the big thing for him was durability,
and then here he is, he goes and plays with it.
Nineteen games this year because he didn't play week eighteen
because they sat him out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Nineteen games.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Eighteen maybe eighteen, right, because he played sixteens.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
No nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Eighteen because he played seventeen regular season games and two
playoff games.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Well, he didn't play seventeen because he sat out the
last game, so it would be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Eighteen. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Man's we're so bad at math.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
My math teacher, if she ever comes across my content,
she'll hear me saying I'm bad at math multiple times
and say I'm not surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Forget that sequence that just happened. Anyways, back to Kirim williams.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Durability, Yeah, but that's still crazy. Eighteen straight games having
over three hundred and how many overall touches did he
finish this season with. I'm going to find that out
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
It's over four hundred because I saw no.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Way really over I saw one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I don't want to draw Kyron Williams had four hundred touches.
That is that came from a RAMS reporter. But now
I'm too scared to say who because I don't want
to throw him overder the bus. But I saw that
and I have it up right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
So he he didn't have four hundred he had? Oh
no he did? No he did? He had? He did?

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
I have to say this report is, yeah he had
how many?

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Wait? No, no, no he didn't, No he didn't, No,
no he had the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Drama can't take Okay, how many touches did he have?

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Right regular season? He finished with three hundred and fifty touches,
which is ridiculous, and then he had thirty nine touches
in the postseason. So if you're doing the math, that
puts him at three hundred and eighty nine or sorry,
four hundred. No, yeah, three hundred and eighty nine, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
They must have been being they were rounding.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Yeah, it's okay to round.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Three hundred and eighty nine, four hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Now we can do what I wanted to do. Ready
for this, So three hundred and eighty nine touches, get this, Okay,
this is wild? So oh my god, you don't even understand.
So this actually is the most it's the most a

(01:05:33):
ram has touched the football since two thousand and six
Steven Jackson had four hundred and thirty six.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
And people want to look at him like he's chopped livered.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Well, I think people. I think he's just you know,
people have, for whatever reason, since we've drafted him, looked
for ways to discredit him, you know, when he's done
some things. Obviously our criticism is warn't to you know,
the fumbles, right, but I mean the workload has just
been insane.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
And that's that's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Just and so that's and I agree with you, like
when people talk about, oh, his workload insproduced, I agree
with you, but not because he isn't capable of being
a running back one. I mean it's because quite literally,
I mean he's not built like a Steven Jackson to
have that type of workload over multiple seasons.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
But yeah, and that so that amounted to over sixteen
hundred total yards from scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Not half bad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Yeah. I mean again, like we talked about, Kyle Williams
was the Rams offense. I mean, people can say what
they want, but you know, statistically backs it up. And
that's kind of been as Jake and I talked about earlier,
like off season goal, let's find some more people that
can contribute, you know, in the red zone because it's
not sustainable. Teams are gonna figure you out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
But I still can't believe he's had the most touches
of any not Todd Gurley, not Kyron Williams. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I'm not surprised, but.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
I am because it's that just the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
What is it, I guess kind of that box that
everybody put him in, like, oh, he's this scat back,
he's small, you know, I mean that's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
But people, I think a lot of people who said
that didn't watch him at Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
I mean, what Steven Jackson did in twenty I almost
said twenty twenty six. That hasn't happened yet two thousand
and six. What Steven Jackson did in two thousand and
six is just insane too, because he had he led
the league in yards from scrimmage.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
By the way, you look at that team too, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
That team they should have made the playoff. Not saying that,
like you know, but they had a nice three game
win streak at the end of the year. They were
five and eight, then won three straight. They won that
overtime game against the Redskins, they beat the Vikings. They
were the tenth offense in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
I miss watching Stephen Jackson play.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
That was the last good RAMS team for quite a
while though, because like eight and eight, like, yeah, that
sucks and all, but.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Like they just missed back then. Well yeah, I mean
common well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
But there's just such a period with the Rams where,
like you know, we were like a and eight would
have been considered at some points like a good season, right,
I mean that would have been a very good season
for some of those RAMS teams. I mean, like crazy,
how far we've come.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, Like, he led the league in yards from scrimmage,
that that's crazy. I'm looking at it right now. He
didn't even finish in the top five of No, he did,
he did, he got He finished fourth in Offensive Player

(01:09:11):
of the Year voting. He got one vote with Danni
and Thomlinson. That year he had more rushing yards. He
had thirty one touchdowns. Yeah, okay, it was that year.
I understand Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, but yeah, Stephen Jackson

(01:09:32):
in two thousand and six, that was his best year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I mean, he was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
So yeah, you know, I just think that, like if
you go back and you look like we're talking about
Stephen Jackson right now, that is the only season of
his entire career where he had more touches than Kyron
Williams had this entire year. Yeah, and it's just like

(01:10:00):
that's huge. Like I'll check. I want to see Marshall Faulk.
I want to see if he ever had because that's
the thing, Like Falk was utilized as a pass catcher,
almost like a wide receiver at times, and he had
more than Kyron Williams once in his career, and that

(01:10:21):
was nineteen ninety eight. He wasn't even on the rams.
He was on the Colts. It was his last year
when they ran him in the ground knowing they weren't
going to pay him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
And then Eric Dickerson, Let's check.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Eric Dickerson's is crazy because he had more than Kyroen
most of his career.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
He had with the Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
He had a four hundred and thirty touch season, a
four hundred touch season of four to forty one. Also,
the time like that was just the times, like you
ran the ball way more than you run it today.
So the point being is that Kyron Williams, when you
do the research, actually do the math. If I'm not

(01:11:02):
mistaken here, alexis he's got more touches in twenty twenty
four to twenty twenty five, including the postseason, He's got
more touches than every single Ram besides Jackson in two
thousand and six since Eric Dickerson.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Yeah, it's insane. It's incredible, it really is. And you
look at the season that he's had as a whole.
I mean, again, we talked about the touchdowns. I mean
people can say, I mean sixteen touchdowns for Kyle Williams
twice as much as the second I meant. The next
guy was DeMarcus Robinson at seven. So, I mean, incredible.

(01:11:50):
I agree with you, but you know again I can
agree with that. And also, you know, as Jake and
I agree with, yes, his volume does need to be
lower next year. There needs to be some of that
workload taken off.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Yeah, you won't get any complaints from me. I'm sure
you know. Sean will go back and wash the tape
during the off season. We'll be like, I can't believe
I did that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Do you want me to keep reading the super chats?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Are you embarrassed now?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Haven Stein was getting cooked on Sunday, according to Zailer Swift.
Thank you for the five. So haven Stein I don't
think was getting cooked. I think he had some moments
in pass pro that you would like to see go
a little bit better. But I thought he was fine.
You know, he had his moments. The biggest issue was upfront.
Dotson did not have a good game. Bo Limmer did

(01:12:42):
not have a good game. And so yeah, I think
that middle like interior to the right side struggled and
I can point the finger as to why it's Jalen Carter.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
They tried to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Double him all game and then the one play they
didn't double him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
The draft is loaded with running backs and Korum is
more shiftier than Kyron Williams. Let Kyra Williams play out
his last year and get another running back. Love kW
but fumbles were issue in college. Also need a linebacker
next to forty eight and then nose tackle. Thank you
so Cal for the ten I would I would just

(01:13:25):
say this, there is essentially nothing out there to show
that Blake Korm is better than Kyron in any way.
I'm just I like Koram, but I can't help but
thinking that the Rams would rather have Bucky Irving right now,

(01:13:48):
or you know, the Rams would rather gone in a
different direction.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Because this is what I'll say.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Blake Koram played out the entire season, and the entire
point of drafting and bringing in Blake Korum was because
they had identified an issue with k Williams Kyra Williams
work use, workload, and his usage and they did not

(01:14:18):
want to throw him into the fire and play him
ninety eight percent of the time because they felt like
that contributed to his injuries. Well, it turns out that
last year's injuries were just fluky because he had way
more and that just tells me he had the most
touches including the postseason, and the most touches for a
RAM since Steven Jackson in two thousand and six. They failed.

(01:14:41):
That's what that tells me. They got Blake Korum because
he can do all the same things Kyron can well.
I think that's a little unfair to Kyrien. We said
all the time. You could say it's a similar archetype,
you can say has a similar skill set, But in
no way can you tell me that Blake Korum is
the same as Kyle Williams is a two time thousand
yard rusher. Blake Koram hasn't done anything in his career.

(01:15:05):
He's done nothing. He also did not score when they
needed him to at the goal line they putting Kien Williams.
He punched in the next See that's another thing we
look at. Oh well, all of Kien Williams touchdowns are
at the goal line.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
That's a skill.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
People used to get on Todd Gurley about that, be like, oh,
Todd girls runs are at the goal line.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
It's all like he does a lot. That's a skill.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Then, you know what, we didn't realize how lucky we
had it because the twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen, teams
were setting records. But what we don't understand is that,
you know, in that moment, because it's so easy to
score for those teams, Dan, it just feel like, oh,

(01:15:47):
they're just going to score thirty every game. It was
so easy, right, But now we haven't watched an elite
offense in quite some time, and so the Rams, it's
hard to score for this team. And they show you
in the red zone, I mean the red zone issues.
They had their woes against the Eagles and it costs them.

(01:16:09):
It's not easy to score. And when you have Kiraen Williams,
a guy that has a nose for the end zone,
finds a way gets those fourth down and short or
fourth down in inches, those conversions, that's value. And I
just I feel like we're so quick to just dismiss that.
Like the whole thing with Jalen Hurts. You know, it's like, oh,

(01:16:29):
all his touchdowns are at the goal line. Well, the
difference is the thing about Jalen Hurts at the goal line,
not to take away a touchdown, but he's got the
whole touch push thing going. He's got guys shoving them
in what does Kyron get that? So I just think
if you're going to discredit goal line rushing touchdowns, you know,
I don't know. I just that's how I feel. And

(01:16:51):
I so cale appreciate you. I don't mean to get
on you. It's just in general. I see it all
the time. It's not just you, it's like this whole
Blake Korum is shifty or better or whatever. He has
not proven that. I just not for one second like
the guy. But he hasn't proven anything.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
I agree with you. And this is why people who
watch our NFL draft stream every year, when they drafted
Blake Koram, I was very audibly like not please buy it,
and everybody was like so confused. And I said at
the time, and I got a lot of like criticism
for it, is I was like, you know, they needed
to draft I wanted them to draft that bigger back. Now,

(01:17:32):
I'll be fair. I wasn't saying explosive, which now is
what I'm saying now. So at the time my analysis
wasn't maybe what I would say now, but it was
in that similar vein of like, you know, I really
want them to draft a different type of running back
than Karen Williams right, But then the conversation became, Okay,

(01:17:52):
well they drafted Koram so that way they can you know,
ease Kyraen Williams workload and then just put Korum in
and he could do the same things. Well, they didn't
put Korm in hardly at all this season. That's what
everybody's been talking about. Why did you make the pick?
And what that tells me is whatever the rams were
seeing in practice or the very few touches you know,

(01:18:14):
he was getting in the games, they weren't liking what
they were seeing. And you mentioned the goal line for example.
I mean there McVeigh tried to get him a touchdown.
I'm blanking on who their opponent was that game, but they're,
like you mentioned, they put him in at the goal line.
He had three opportunities and could not do it. They
put in Kier and he scores. So yeah, I mean

(01:18:36):
it is what it is now. I do think Korm
is going to get more touches next season. You know,
we'll talk about that more as the season goes on.
But you know, there was a reason that Blake Korm
did not play a lot this season.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Yeah, and I also think, well, you know, there is
a reason I don't really like to get on Blake
Koran for his lack of play either.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I mean, I do think it was an issue.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
I think that there were like twenty twenty two where
they had the plan to get Alan Robinson, and initially
I loved it because I was like, oh, Alan Robinson
with potentially OBJ at some point, you know, when he
gets healthy and you got Robert Woods and you got
Cooper Cup and you start to think about it and
you're like, oh wow, it's a diversified wide receiver room.

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But then they come out and they're like, yeah, we're
actually gonna trade Robert Woods for nothing, and Alan Robinson's
the guy. And at that point I'm annoyed, but I'm like, Okay,
I can see the vision then Alan Robinson. All advanced
metrics show you Alan Robinson had some crazy separated numbers.
People act like he couldn't separate. That was the biggest thing, right,

(01:19:44):
can't separate. There's multiple, you know, advanced metrics out there
that show you Alan Robinson in twenty twenty two separated
more than any wide receiver on the RAMS that year. Okay,
But the reason I bring him up is because this
is a tell, it's a show. They had a plan
with Alan Robinson. They barely utilized him, right, and he

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played every game and so they barely utilize him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Plan go south. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
They had a plan with Bobby Wagner. Okay, they plan
go south. They get rid of him after the season.
They've had plans in the past. They brought in Lance
Dunbar to be the spellback for Todd Gurley. I don't
even think he saw a game where he had more
than ten touches. So they've had plans in the past

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and we've now seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
You know, this year. They had the plan.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Jonah Jackson I already mentioned they had the plan when
they drafted Blake Korum. He was going to spell Kyron Williams.
And I love the rationale because the point being was
he comes in and they love Kyron Williams so much
that they don't want to, you know, lose anything that
he brings to the table. So the hope was Blake

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Korum could emulate Kyron the best he could, where if
he comes off the field, you're not really feeling the
the the loss. Obviously it's not Kyron Williams. But they
were thinking, Okay, he's similar in that skill set where
we can still run our offense how we want to
run it, unlike having to change things up because it's
Royce Freeman or Darryl Henderson or whoever. And that was

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the concern that people had because I think you and
I had talked, really talked all off season, and I
think in the draft I got talked into it. But
all off season we had talked about guys like Braylan Allen.
I had mentioned, you know, Videll from you know the Chargers,
like these guys that you know, Tyrone Tracy that could

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add a dynamic to the passing game. But also they
had that home run hitting ability Trey Benson. And when
they went out and got a guy that had kind
of this similar speed and everything, you understand it like, Okay,
he does all the same things as Kyron, like you
know on paper, right, that was the assumption. But the
plan failed because any scenario before the season, any scenario

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where Kyron Williams ends up having almost four hundred touches,
including the postseason, your original plan you sought after You're
essentially the issue you were trying to fix that blew
up in smoke because am I wrong? I mean, that

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was the whole point, is that going out and getting
somebody who was good enough that you didn't have to
feel like Kyroen had to be on the field ninety
nine percent of the time. Well, now Kyroen just had,
as we've talked about, the third most touches of a
RAMS running back since Eric Dickerson, and to me, that's
just insane.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Well, it is insane, especially when you took a running
back in the third round to kind of quell that. Right,
you know that again, it's just it's the circle that
it the full circle moment is that it's unfortunate because
then you go, okay, what else could we have maybe
done with that third round pick? Right? Or you know

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what does this mean now? Because now you've realized as
a team, okay, uh, you know, we're not really comfortable
playing quorum that much. You know for Kiron, we still
want Kyron out there ninety five percent of the time.
Well then what do you do because you know, now
you're talking about an extension, but you're tied to Blake Korum.
So now now you know, okay, well we're we're tied

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to Blake Kuorum, but we want to keep Kien Williams
less needs said it today. If everybody missed that, I mean,
the Rams are going to try to extend Kien Williams.
So now as a team, you know, all right, we
are going to stick with Kyroen. You know, the guy
who led the offense you know, in touchdowns revolutionized. I

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think in a way mcveigh's offenses you and I have
talked about is it's really first time McVeigh has had
a balanced offense since Girley. So you've got kyro in,
but now you're you're tied to Blake. Now you go, okay, now,
where where is that home run? You know? Hitting back?
Do we want to even do that now with our
running backs? Do we stick with what we've been doing

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at running back and maybe go try to find the
explosive playmaker at receiver or tight end. Right. So, now
now you're kind of in a situation that if you
had maybe taken a Bucky Irving, remember we took Blake
Korum over Bucky Irving, right, or you would take in
a Braylen Allen or somebody like that, you might be

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feeling a little bit better right now in terms of
what you want to do with your run game. And
not feel like, all right, now we've got a nail
another you know, maybe four fifth, sixth run running back
this upcoming draft to be the opposite of Kyron and Quorum,
So you know, hindsight's twenty twenty obviously, But like I said,
I think that this was something that a lot of people,

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including myself, felt like was obvious that the last draft
is you know, what are you doing taking Blake Korum
at the end of the third round. I just I
think I do think you know, people can try to
justify it however they want. Whatever the reason was, it
obviously did not pan out because yeah, I mean you
throughout that number, the touches were more more.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
So if that was your plan, use him more. But
if he wasn't ready, then he can't use him more.
So it just it's a failure anyway. But you have
three more years of Koram. That's the good news. The
bad news is you have three more years of Koram
on this cheap deal that could have been used to
get somebody else that would have better suited this team. Now,
keep in mind, they've drafted better than anybody in the

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league the last two years, so it's not like we're
saying that this draft class is not her failure, but
it is a reminder that these things do come back
to bite you. They've had plans in the past that
have not worked out. You look at twenty seventeen, the
first draft pick of the Sean McVay air was Gerald Everett.
Good player, but I mean it passed up on getting
George Kittle. Now a lot of teams passed up on him,
but they, you know, they don't get George Kittle. And

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you know, then twenty eighteen, their third overall pick is
Joseph Nopum or the third round pick is Joseph Nopum,
the first pick of that draft, and they go out
and they get Brian Allen and Alan's you know, he's
stuck around for a while. But then you look at,
you know, twenty nineteen and it's like they draft Taylor Rapp.
They even said that they'd be fine picking him in
the first round. He doesn't come back on a on

(01:26:27):
a extension, you know. So that's a player that you
put a second round pick into and you didn't even
give him, you know, an additional contract. David Long is
another one. Bobby Evans was the third rounder that they
hoped would be, you know, be able to be a starter.
Didn't work out. Twenty twenty cam Akers, Van Jefferson, I

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mean Van Jefferson didn't even finish out his rookie deal.
They traded him in the middle of his final year.
Cam Akers did not get the contract extension. Terrell Lewis
was a third rounder they were hoping to be, uh,
you know, a starting edge defender. You know, he gets cut.
Terrell Burgess, I never thought he got a fair shake,
but that happens. Bryson Hopkins, I never felt like he

(01:27:09):
got a fair shake. He plays out his you know
contract a year and then that he's gone. Ernest Jones
doesn't get a contract too. To out Well was barely
utilized right. Robert Rochelle a former fourth round pick. They
just cut out right, you know. Jacob Harris, I don't
think we ever saw him really get an opportunity in
a regular season game. He's a fourth round pick. Just
cut you know. Then you have twenty twenty two. Logan

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bruss is the top pick that they had that year,
third rounder. They told us how great he was. The
scout jumps in the pool. He's so excited. The plan
was that Logan Bruss was gonna play guard. It didn't
work out. So really the point I'm making here, and
keep in mind in that draft, you know, they drafted
guys like Kobe Durant, Kyron Williams, Quinton Lake, Darien, Kendrick

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Russy East who started, you know, quite.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
A few games for them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
You know. That's the thing is that I can be
critical and also give give credit, but they have missed
on some guys in on that Day two where it's like, yeah,
so I guess Really, what I'm saying here is that
like Stetson met in the fourth round, for instance, what
I'm saying here is that just because Blake Korum is

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a third round pick doesn't necessarily mean the Rams will not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Draft a running back this you know, this draft.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
It doesn't necessarily mean that the Rams won't extend kyn
Williams because they have the future in Blake Korum. I
think that's the thing we need people to understand here,
is that just because they spent a Day two pick
on Blake Koram, who's a big name when a national title,
does not mean that he's locked in as the starter

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long term. Because the way things work out, man, I'll
tell you the way they finished out the season, Blake
Koram was not there. He hurt in Week eighteen. He
was barely playing this year, right, Kyron Williams. I don't
think he missed a snap. I don't think maybe Ronnie
Rivers took one carry. I don't even remember. But the

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point being is that, regardless how you feel, it didn't
work out like he did not just take over as
the starting job like we knew he would. We talked
about it all off season, and I don't think he's
gonna do it next year. And I actually think he's
in jeopardy if falling to that third spot. And guess what,
I like the guy, so I hope he doesn't. I

(01:29:32):
actually hope, you know, he fights and gets some opportunities.
But I'm just telling you right now, based on what
we've seen in the past, the Logan brust Pick, the
Bobby Evans of the world, the Joe Nopooms, these are
guys they drafted on Day two, expecting him to be starters,
and they didn't end up being starters. They paid Nopoom
to be the guy, and as soon as they realized

(01:29:53):
he wasn't, they backed away. So say what you will
about the missing on certain picks and what have you.
What this team does is they might miss on picks,
but they're the first people to let you know we
screwed this up. We're just gonna cut bait. And so
that's why i'd say, if you're just saying, yeah, you know,
Blake korm is gonna be our starter next year, get

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rid of Kien Williams, It's not as simple as that.
I really think that there's more of a chance of
the Rams drafting a running back to be their number
two behind Kyron and displacing Blake korm back into the
third role than there is a Blake korn Are than
it is of Kien Williams being replaced.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Oh anyway, Matthew, thank you for the twenty good evening,
guys in gals, I'm a defensive guy, so I'm stoked
about this young defense. Any good dbs in the draft, Alexis,
I have some, but I'll leave it up to you.
For the most part, I can give you the Kansas guys,
Kobe Bryant, Melo Dotson. I lean towards Mellow being the

(01:30:57):
better one of those. And then I know your guy
from Notre Dame and that's it. I have not done
enough research with the draft full disclosure to be able
to give you a list.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
I have not either, so I don't want to, you know,
just start pretending throwing names out there. But you know,
Ben Morrison at a Notre Dame, obviously that was very good.
He should be a first round pick. I mean, you've
got your obvious like Travis Hunter, right, you know, Will
Johnson out of Michigan. But you know, I haven't watched

(01:31:29):
really any tape officially of any of these guys yet,
so I just have to kind of go off what
i've I've seen. But you know, I think the Rams.
I think if you would have asked me a couple
months ago, I would have been looking for the Rams
to take a corner in the first round. Not so
much anymore. I don't think that's the direction they go.
So I don't know. I feel like a lot of

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the defensive backs that I end up watching are going
to be kind of those later round, mid round, late round.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
I have one. He was my first.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
People are gonna laugh at me, but this is why
way too early mock drafts are silly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
He was my first round pick for the Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Way too early Jabbar Mohammed Washington transfer to Oregon. Yeah, yeah,
they I've seen like mock drafts having him go like
day three, like early day three.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
So that's what I mean. Like people are gonna laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
But I like Jabbar Mohammad, And when I was watching
his tape for the way too early mock draft, I
felt like that was the guy who just had that
kind of I don't know, he was feisty and coverage
and he just kind of had that look of like
a Rams corner like kind of similar to like you know, Kobe.
I don't know if you know they they'll draft him
or whatever. I haven't watched enough film on him, and

(01:32:45):
I don't even remember most of the film I watched,
just kind of like how I felt about it. But yeah,
like we're gonna get to the draft, don't worry, We'll
be ready for that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
But as of right now, and that this is this
is the good news.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
Has that been doing this for years that I can
catch up And I don't sleep as you know, so
I mean I could learn more about the draft in
one night than you know, some people in two three weeks.
I mean that's just you know, because of my sleep schedule,
you know, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Do just want to because see what fun is a drink.
The Cowboys just hired their new head coach. Do you
know who it is?

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
It's former Saint Louis Rams offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer. Yep,
that is insane, but good for him.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
But just you know, I just I wouldn't want to
be a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
I could tell you, yeah, I mean it's no shape
but kind of shade, you know, But I mean, good
for him. I just think, you know, Cowboys fans have
now been in a wild ride. They like really convinced
themselves a lot of them that like they're gonna get Sanders.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
It reminds me of Okay, so who replaced was it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Oh Man? Who was it? I think it was Ron
Rivera who replaced Jay Gruden?

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Right, Yes, he came over from Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
And then yeah, I that it's that to me, it's
that you had Sean McVay in your back pocket. And
for Dallas, they let Kellen Moore go and they let
Dan Quinn go. Now they didn't leave like they didn't
like cut them or whatever. They didn't fire them, but
they let them leave essentially just to fire Mike McCarthy.

(01:34:32):
The next year, they let dan Quin go. Dan Quinn
has already coached in a Super Bowl. Dallas hasn't gotten
passed the divisional round of the playoffs since like nineteen
ninety five, which is the year I was born.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
So this is what we're at right now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
When Sean McVay, Kyle Shahan, all those guys were there
in Washington and they had Jay Gruden, right, nothing against
Jay Gruden, but like they let Sean McVay leave the
building to and fire g Gruden and hire Ron Rivera,
who's just He's just a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
He's not that great of a head coach.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
The Cowboys just hired Brian Schottenheimer when they had dan
Quinn in their back pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
I mean, I just say it all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
I'm just glad I'm not a fan of these teams
because I just I don't know, man, I I cannot,
for the life of me believe that you like some
of these coaches that go out the door, Like I
like Todd Bowles, but I was I was under the
impression Todd Bowles was gone. And I just found out

(01:35:39):
today that Tampa wasn't giving Liam Cohen the job Tampa
was extending Liam Cohen to be the offensive coordinator. I
could not even believe that. I thought he was getting promoted.
And then people are like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
I missed that because I was doing improv though I
was like not, oh yeah, but I caught up late.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
I thought with all the mumbo jumbo and everything, I
totally thought that it was because he committed to be
the head coach and then left for Jacksonville. I understand
some of the blowback, like you should have told him
or whatever, but it's a way better opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Like what, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
I can't believe they didn't tell him to be or
like force him into the head coaching role because I
they got to move on for bulls. I like bulls,
but like he's just not doing it. So yeah, still
can't believe that. Anyway, we got three four more super
chats and then we'll wrap this thing up. Edwin, appreciate you, uh,
thank you for the five. A couple questions for you.

(01:36:40):
If this was Cup's last season with the Rams, what
is your favorite Cup moment?

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Thank you both for all the great videos. Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
I mean, it's gotta be the Super Bowl, that's right too.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
I think it just yeah, I think he had such
a magical year and then to get that touchdown in
the Super Bowl, I mean, how can you don't think
of that?

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Well, I guess on that drive there are three of them.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Would you say the fourth down conversion that kept them alive,
the no look pass.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Or the touchdown?

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Because it's got to be the touchdown, right because that's
when you know. I mean the Puka Nakua catch against
the Eagles is perfect example. No one cares if it
doesn't get done, if you don't win, it's like, oh,
that was a nice catch. We don't talk about it,
but that catch is immortalized. If they come back and
they win, and say they go on to win the

(01:37:39):
Super Bowl, people would still be talking about can you
believe that Kua catch? That that was the thing that
carried us?

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Yeah, I gotta say that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
I think the touchdown because I just have that picture
in my head.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
It just never will go away.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
And I'm sure Bengals fans have that too in a
different way. Great question, though, do and thank you for
the five again. Who do you believe has the biggest
impact to the Rams organization? McVeigh Snead, Donald or Stafford.
I'll let you answer first. I know my question, I

(01:38:14):
know my answer.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
It's hard when it's hard because Aaron Donald was included,
and in my opinion, Aaron Donald is the greatest defensive
tackle of all time. But you know, I think as
a whole, I might have to say, Sean McVay, I
just think McVeigh kind of revolutionized, you know, to go

(01:38:42):
from Jeff Fisher to McVeigh. I mean, there's kind of
like a before McVeigh and then McVeigh.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
To me, it's McVeigh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Yeah, I mean I don't it's not Snead, it's not
I love Stafford, but I think you again, like I said,
it's almost like there's like a block right where you
think before McVeigh and then mcvayh it's just too very
I mean, it was a turning point for everything I
think that happened. I mean, i'll let you elaborate, Jake,

(01:39:16):
but that was my answer.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
I forget what I had when I made the YouTube short,
but it was like seventy six wins. Sean mcvay's first
seventy six wins came in eight seasons, not even full
eight seasons. And before that, it took the Rams since
two thousand and three to have seventy six wins before
Sean McVay. So that, to me is the biggest impact,

(01:39:40):
because you could say Aaron Donald and what he meant
to the development of those defensive linemen and how he
made some huge plays. I mean, do they win the
game against the forty nine ers, do they win the
game against the Bengals without him?

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Sneid because he was finally able to be like the
guy like I think during the Fisher I think Fisher
had more I think he had more control than you
know his publicized So I mean obviously with the FM
picks and not being afraid to make big Tom moves
Stafford because they didn't win a super Bowl with McVeigh

(01:40:17):
and they had just missed the playoffs and then got
back to the playoffs and you could tell they were
really just lacking the fire power. And then the moment
he steps in that organization, everything changes and they just
look so dominant and they end up winning it all.
And then the thing about McVeigh is just we watched
this team just they were not good. They were just

(01:40:40):
not good for the longest time. I mean Spagnolo, I
do believe never got a fair shake because the first
year he had nothing around him. They're one in fifteen,
they basically were tanking. They get Sam Bradford, we all
know that. Then twenty ten, he finally has his quarterback.

(01:41:01):
He starts to have stuff around him. Pat Shermer leaves
him by the way to become a head coach. But
Pat Shermer in the Rams offense. They end up getting
to the final game week seventeen. They have to go
to Seattle and beat them to get to the playoffs,
and they lose. So they were one game away essentially
from going to the playoffs. And that was a huge
turnaround because at that point they were the Sosar Rams.

(01:41:23):
They were the one to fifteen, two and fourteen. You know,
this team doesn't do that. The following year, Pat Shermer
leaves to become the head coach of the Browns, which
is a huge, huge hit not Stafford Bradford's development. You know, Spagnolo,
he's young as a young head coach. Now he has to,
you know, figure out what's he gonna do. He goes

(01:41:45):
out and he gets Josh McDaniels. McDaniels is like an
icon in the offensive coordinating game, right. He's just he's
known all this stuff with Brady and you know, he
went and became a head coach with the Bronx. Didn't
work out well, so he goes to the Rams to
try to boost his stockbackup. And what people don't realize,

(01:42:07):
and this is actually a concern of him being back
as the offensive coordinator for the Patriots this year. Alexis
is with a young team. He's got a very, very
complicated offense. And I say, to this day, his complicated
offense hurt that team. These guys were getting injured because
they were trying to process the offense. They had a

(01:42:30):
record setting amount of injuries that year. Josh Gordy went
off his couch and became the leading interception leader for
the team. And I think he only played the last
seven games of the year. I mean that team was
banged up, and because they only won two games, Spagnolo's gone.
Now do I think Spagnolo turns it around and turns
into a you know, Sean McVay. No, But I still

(01:42:52):
to this day, I don't feel like he got a
fair shake. Then Jeff Fisher comes in and you know,
he's the joke. Eight and eight whatever wasn't even really
eight and eight, seven, eight to one, seven and nine,
six and ten. But Fisher was like he had it stability,
he had been to a Super Bowl before, he had
taken his team through a move, so they kept him
on board when they moved to LA and that year

(01:43:15):
they just knew they had to get rid of him.
And when Sean McVay came into that building, which is
who I wanted from the get go, it was just
night and day. He wasn't ready to be a head
coach and he knew that. So the way he did
things was, I'm going to be the leader, but I'm
going to have guys in position. I'm going to be
smart enough to realize what I don't have yet experience,

(01:43:38):
and I'm going to surround myself with the best guys.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
And he went out and got an.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
All timer will be a Hall of Famer and just
a legendary defensive coordinator, Wade Phillips. He brought in Joe Barry,
who he has experience with coaching with on Washington, but
also Barry kept him of, you know, in control because
he was the assistant head coach. And then he went

(01:44:04):
out and got Greg Olsen, who was the Rams offensive
corderate in two thousand and eight. But he went out
and got, you know, another veteran guy to be the
quarterbacks coach. There's a lot of veterans. Then he surround
himself with the rest of those pieces were his, his buddies,
if you will. But it wasn't just playing oh yeah,
I'm with my best friends. It was guys he trusted.
It was guys like Chris Shula who he saw through

(01:44:26):
the full development process. Now Shula is here and he's
become the defensive coordinator. Eight years later, you know Aubrey
Pleasant right and his Heiro ever Ro and you saw
him start to build this, you know this, this coaching staff.
But in addition to that, it was the veteran players.
He had a John Sullivan at center. Was he the
best center on the market, No, But John Sullivan knew

(01:44:49):
that this team needed some leadership. They went from freaking
Greg Robinson to Andrew Whitworth over the course of two months. Yeah, hey,
that's that's crazy. Three months, maybe that's crazy, huge upgrade.
And so the point is McVeigh had such an impact

(01:45:11):
because he got these guys to buy in and they
came over and that's what ended up happening. So I
would I would say mcvagh. It's a long winded answer,
but I wanted to story time all right. Two more here.
Thank you Ak Graham master B for the five. Love

(01:45:33):
what you guys do, continue the great work. Did you
receive what I sent you? I didn't get tracking for them,
so no idea where they're at.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
I did if this is who I think it is,
I'm really bad at like user names. I know your
username on Access, but I did, thank you very much.
I got yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
If I gave you my PO box, I've been so
bad checking my PO box, so I'm gonna have to
check that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
So I probably got it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
I just haven't and it the PO boxes they're not
connected with like the online tracking, so like I never
get alerts. When I get one, I just have to
go and check it periodically. So I'm gonna check it
probably tomorrow. I would say, I'll let you know. So
cal appreciate the two. Jake tell us about the new uniforms.

(01:46:21):
What's so funny is I just record a video before
we went live, and I literally say in this how
everyone's talking about twenty twenty five before the season, and
a lot of the reason is because of the uniforms.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
The people keep asking me, like I know, I'm in
the know about the uniform I don't know what they're doing.
I have no clue zero the helmets like getting rid
of the partition. First off, I guess I'm in the minority.
I love the the slice through it I actually have.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
That's grown on me. Alexis is like, I'm trying not to,
you know, cuss you out right now, but uh but
I do like it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
But there are a lot of people that like just
the full on horn but I know nothing about that.
So yeah, people keep asking me, and I have no
idea none. What about what say you? Do you know anything?

Speaker 1 (01:47:12):
I don't. I listen. I it never ends well for
me when I discussed the Ram's uniforms. So I just
have learned to stay out of it. Yeah, I'm not
gonna you know people, you know I'm not the biggest fan,
but it is what it is. So I don't really
care that much.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
You know, I don't care. I just want another Lombardi.
That's all I care about. I want to I wish
I could watch our team this Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
That's what I care about. I know I do. I don't.
I don't give a ripity dude about the uniforms. I
just don't. I don't I like them.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
I wouldn't mind bringing back to throwback ones every once
in a while, but like, hey.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
I want to I want to see a Navy and
gold throwback.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
Well, you're gonna get us killed if.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
I mean, I think it would. It'd be cool. It'd
come out of left field. Nobody would see it coming.
You see the Rams step out in like a modernized
Navy and Gold uniform with like the Navy and Gold helmets.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
I think they should have a nineteen fifty one NFL
Championship like Rams edition. And they haven't done this since
nineteen ninety five, I believe, when Vettis was there, just
since I was born. But yeah, I think I would
go with the yellow top, and I know people want

(01:48:39):
black as well. If you could work it in, I
wouldn't be against it would also like white, like for pants,
just because you only have the bone and it just
doesn't doesn't totally work, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
So I think that's what I would say, is that because.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
If you went with the white pants and then you
added a yellow and black maybe black, so all black
because then you have the black pants in your arsenal
white pants with the yellow top and then maybe a
yellow pants. Like I don't know, because I still say
this day, I'll never forget as long as I live.

(01:49:17):
The Force Awakens came out in twenty fifteen. The Day
came out, Star Wars came back. It was Thursday night football.
Rams in their team banana logo, their team banana color
rush and the ketchup you know, Tampa Bay one and

(01:49:38):
Tampa's uniforms looked terrible, but the Rams all yellow were fire.
I don't care what anyone says. I absolutely love them
and I love them back. We're not going to talk
about the Ravens game. I purposely left that out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
What's next next?

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
But when we were podcasting in like like the third.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Quarter, yeah, we just like had had enough and we're
just laughing. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
Bad anyway, that is going to do it. We appreciate
you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
Yeah, well, we appreciate you guys. And again, you know,
just thank you so much for writing with us, you know,
this season and tuning into every episode of the show
and this was Jake and I's fifth or fifth season
doing this show together, because it was the twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
I'd have to ask you, because remember I was like,
oh yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
Our sixth same season being co host of this show
and doing it together, and that is crazy. So we
appreciate everybody who tunes in every week and listens to us,
and uh, you know, we we got through this together.
This loss, you know, we're bummed about it, but you know,
as Jake and I have said, we're just so proud

(01:50:55):
of this team and are looking forward to discussing kind
of what we think could happen in the off season
to try and get us over that hill and to
the super Bowl next season. So we'll definitely be back
to talk about that, but we're going to take a
little hiatus as we usually do, through the rest of
the NFL playoffs, so about a month, i'd say month,

(01:51:16):
month and a half. We're going to take a break
from the show and then be back with our draft
coverage that we do every year and hopefully getting some
awesome prospects in the show like we normally do in
interviewing them in Jake, I don't know that we've ever
had a season where two guys we've interviewed have been
drafted by the Rams. It's we always seem to find

(01:51:37):
one out of all the guys that we interview. It's
like we'll have like a Quentin Lake or Brennan Jackson. Right,
But I am making it my goal, my personal goal
this season. Well, I guess I have no control over it,
not in the Rams front office. But my sincere hope
for this season is that this will be the first
Downtown Rams off season or two of the prospects we

(01:52:00):
interview at least two get drafted by the Rams. Because
we always hit like we it's like we get one,
two two. It might be a big goal. But I'm
I'm I'm feeling like, you know, maybe this is our year,
our year where we get double.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Perhaps it is, Well, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
Well, guys, thank you so much for tuning in. We
really really appreciate it. We got a thousand people watching
right now live. It means so much to us, you know,
please keep up with us. We're still on social media.
You can follow us on social media at Downtown Rams.
You can follow me on Twitter, slash x, at the
Alexis Craft and then I'm on Instagram at alexis Craft.

(01:52:46):
Jake is on both platforms at JK Bogan and guys,
like we said, thanks for sticking with us this season.
We love you guys, we appreciate it. We'll be back
very soon, but until then, as always, stay safe, take care,
and go ramsh

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