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April 21, 2025 41 mins
Are you or someone you love taking ADHD medications? Brace yourself for a shocking
revelation! Join us as we uncover the startling claims of a well-known cardiologist, who
warns that these widely prescribed stimulants could be a ticking time bomb for your heart
health. What does the latest research reveal about the long-term effects of these
medications? Don’t miss this crucial conversation as we explore safer alternatives for
managing ADHD and learn how to protect your heart

Special Guest: Nick Stern, CEO of Sun Nutrition, makers of Vascular
Defense.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
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Welcome everyone, Welcome to this hour of the Doctor Bob

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Martin Show, and thank you so very much for tuning
into the program today. Now, coming up very shortly here,
we're going to be talking about a cardiologist, almost like
a whistleblower person who is now screaming about the fact
that there's this overprescribed drug category that is taken by
millions of Americans, both adults and children, that are toxic

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to the human heart. His name is doctor Evan Levine,
and we're going to get into that very shortly. I
also want to remind you that coming up later in
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in this hour, we're going to be joined doctor Adam Brockman,
who is the executive producer of this radio show and
co host of the program. He'll be weighing in on

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we start with this very troubling news. You know, I'm
amazed at all these doctors who are finally coming out,
you know, after years and years of being quiet and
being afraid of their licenses being revoked if they speak
out against anything that they were taught to do or
their standards and practice. Now all of a sudden, they're

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coming out of the closets. It's amazing to me, but
I'm happy for it because it's gonna save a lot
of lives. Here you have a whistleblower, an MD cardiologist
who is claiming and screaming about it that a lot
of these drugs that are given to people, which I'm
going to get into here, are over prescribed and they're
toxic to your heart. Yes, pills taken by adults and

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children to treat ADHD attention deficit of hyperactive disorder might
just be a prescription to heart disease. So here, let
me give you this drug missus Jones for your lad.
That is, can't sit still in school, can't focus, jitters around,
makes everybody around him nervous because he's all over the board.

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But oh, by the way, it may generate heart disease
later in his life. Are you still down for that?
I think the average person would say, no, what are
you talking about?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
You crazy?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Doctor Evan Levine is an experienced cardiologist in New York.
The veteran medical doctor heart doctor is speaking out about
a drug that is commonly prescribed to help children perform better,
supposedly on tests and sports, a phenomenon he calls borderline
child abuse. I will take it a step further. It

(04:34):
is blatant child abuse in my opinion, especially if you
haven't exercised the option of knowing that there are alternatives
for these people, for these children.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
If you know about it, or you know they.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Exist, and you don't exercise it, yeah, then it becomes
child abuse. But before then it is borderline child abuse.
As the doctor is suggesting. There are two classes of
stimulants that are prescribed for people in this category for
children ADHD. One is called ritalin, derived from drugs called
methyl feenidates. Ritalin and Concerta that's the other drug are

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the most popular, and the other is the amphetamine class
like adderall and vivanase. These are taken also by college students.
They think it helps them focus better.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Both types of drugs increase the levels of a chemical
neurochemical called norepinephrine in the bloodstream, which can lead to
higher blood pressure and can increase the risk of arrhythmias,
a major cause of cardiac arrest. That is serious stuff, folks. Now,
over the years, I've spoken out about this topic, but

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it's this is renewed because now these these doctors are
finally having their come to Jesus moment by coming out
on these things.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm so glad they're finally here.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
That might sound, you know, strange to you, but it's true.
The new research brings up questions that doctor Levine is
sounding the alarm about. Have you noticed more and more
of these doctors doing this. I am so amazed. I'm
impressed with him. I give props to doctor Evan Levine
for speaking out on this.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Now. We just need to get the FDA on board
with it. Right.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
The FDA never really did their job in vetting these drugs,
and I'm sure they didn't because there are sock puppets
of the what the drug company, big Pharma, that's what
it is. Back in twenty eleven, Food Drug Administration used
a study to confirm the safety of these stimulants. These
are like methamfetamine drugs, folks, that's what they are. They're

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just methamfetamine light and in kids. It's paradoxical. Even though
they are stimulants, they actually have the opposite effect on children.
That's what they are talking about here. But the study,
the Food and Or Administration study clearly these states that
the average follow up was only one point three years.

(07:08):
What does that mean? Well, what happens when they row
out these drugs. They test him for a certain period
of time and if they don't find any problems within
that time, they.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Go, hey, no problem, safe and effective. Go for it.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Well, no, because so many of these drugs have a
half life, they have a long term adverse side effective,
you keep people on them visa v children that are
growing up. Let's say at age six or seven, Johnny
is diagnosed with ADHD. The school teacher takes Johnny down
to the principal's office and says, hey, this kid is incorrigible,

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he can't sit still, he's throwing erasers around, he's pulling
the hair on these girls.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
He needs to be out of here yesterday.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
And of course, then the principal calls the parents says, look, Johnny,
you need to come pick up Johnny. He's just bad
news here in school and he needs to be placed
on drugs. You down Ritlin adderall concert straterra, write it down,
and when you see your doctor, just tell him that

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Johnny needs to be drugged. And of course the parent
due fully dually takes the child to the doctor, and
the doctor says, well, yeah, no problem, I've got something
for that. We'll just calm him right down with a
little bit of red Lin, and then Johnny's on it
for you know, way past one point three years, which
is what the FDA did the cutoff on it was.
And so this child takes this Nora Peneffen drug which

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is whip sawing his body's chemistry and his blood vessels
and his heart and his adrenal glands and his brain
and everything else, and beyond one point three years way
out were for the amount of years that he takes
the drug. And some people are on these drugs for decades.
This is where the problem is when it is taken

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long term and in many cases short term. Because I
certainly don't recognize this as a problem.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'm sure there's children.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Who have benefited in some degree by taking the drug
for a period of time, especially because they don't they
no longer drive people crazy, as in the parent, as
in the school, as in everybody around him. But boy,
it wreaks havoc on their biochemistry and their physiology and
their health long term.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
And that's really what we're talking about here. And there are.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Options, folks, for these things. The children you know are
there are in this world. There are two different people,
hunters and farmers. When you have a hunter, like say
Johnny in the room, he wants to get out and play.
He wants to get out and hunt. He's curious. He's
the he's the future president of the United States. He's
the mover and the shaker. Whereas the farmer boy who

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is very calm, looks that the teacher, listens to everything,
looks at the chalkboard. He's very intelligent too, but he's
much more His body chemistry, his physiology is just wired differently.
And therefore we favor that type.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
The farmer. He can sit still, no problem.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
But is there you know, do we reject these hunter
children who are wanting to get out of their chair,
go out and play soccer or baseball or something other
than it sitting in that chair all day long. We
need to find ways to help these children and not,
you know, not designate them as being brain dead or
brain injured.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
There's lots of things.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Get them outdoors, no artificial collarings and sweeteners and additives
that messes them up. Preservatives get them. Make sure they're
not on caffeine. Get them off the junk food and
the sugar. Help them learn how to relax. Teach them
this less screen time. Make sure their sleep is good.
They're getting plenty of sleep. Check there for food allergies.

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Make sure that they have their nervous systems checked by
making sure they see a chiropractor or get acupuncture, massage therapy.
It helps them. I've seen it. I've had many of them.
There's also supplements called strat by Nature's Answer, strath Omega
three oil's help, multi minerals gabba.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
You see, there are ways to.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Help them out beyond drugging them.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
All right, We're gonna come right back today with us.
It's the Doctor Bob Martin Show.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I must stay conscious.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Through the maness and cas so I call on my
angels a say, oh it's a little doctor doc. Donut it.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Victoria is in your body.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
You can and you will leave just alrighty healthy. I'm
very happy.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Welcome, welcome back to this hour of the Doctor Bob
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Speaker 2 (12:23):
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Speaker 3 (12:25):
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the co host and executive director of this radio show.
Of course, he and I both are ready willing and

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able to help you out. Good day to you, doctor Brockman.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Good day to you as well, Doctor Bob.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
All right, and we are going to now proceed to
a topic that I think is going to help a
lot of people, just like it help my sister. In fact,
my sister Molly, who lives in the state of Oklahoma,
thinks that our guest coming up with, who I'll introduce
you to, is her hero. He helped to extricate her

(13:13):
from a medical drug that she was taking up. Keep
in mind, this is my older sister and she knows,
you know, when we were growing up, it was just,
you know, I was Bob, the little snotty little kid
that she knew growing up, not you know, doctor Bob,
the guy that may have some knowledge and information to
share with her. So, of course, what happens is she

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sees her doctor without telling me in Oklahoma, and her
doctor says, oh, Molly, my gosh, yeah, the legs, your
your legs, your circulation that you've been complaining about, and
the pain in your legs and the changes in the
color and.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
The skin and everything.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
You need an anti Kolan drug called Eloquist that'll fix
you right up. And so she, with a leap of faith,
confidence and belief in her MD, Okay, let's go. She
filled the prescription and within a week or two a
lot of adverse side effects started to come down on her,

(14:13):
which were a lot worse than what she already had
with her circulatory problems and the skin on her legs
and all.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
The pain in her legs.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Then she makes the phone call to the little snotty
nosed brother she knew growing up and says, Bob, I'm
having trouble. What do you have in trouble? By Well,
I went to my doctor. He prescribed this drug for circulation.
It's an any coagulant drug called Eloquist. And you know,
I can't take it.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's killing me. It's just terrible. What do I do.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
That's when the picture started to change for her, and
I said, well, we need to find something for you,
and we found it. Ladies and gentlemen, that that cure
for her problem exists. If you have you yourself, and
you're listening to the son of my voice right now,
you have BIS or intermittent glaudication or deep vein thrombosis
issues or varicose veins, or venus stasis, or inflammation in

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your lower extremity or cold feet circulatory problems. Sooner or later,
if you complain about that, your doctors might prescribe for
you Eloquist or Cerelto or Prodaxa or Aspern or Plavix
or kumad. Something's gonna come off that prescription slip, and
you're gonna say, okay, well, okay, and then you don't
look up the side effects, and then suddenly you realize

(15:27):
when you get the side effects you should have, and
then you make the call to this radio show to
doctor Adam Brockman and myself looking for help.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Don't go that far.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
It's not necessary, because there is something called vascular defense
by sun nutrition, which is what my sister took, and
it totally solved her problem. In fact, within a couple
of weeks she was so much better that her doctor
withdrew the drug Eloquist, and she's been doing good now,

(15:57):
it's been over a year, been doing better ever since.
And so I thought we'll bring on the person who
is responsible for that. His name is Nick Stern. He's
competitive athlete with over fifty years of experience in the
health and wellness industry. He co founded sun Nutrition, the
creator of vascular Defense, the supplement we're talking about here.

(16:20):
He was also involved in a company called sun Warrior.
You may know that brand in the health food store.
So we asked him to come on the program to
discuss it because I think there's a lot of other
people who could benefit by this story and help them
as well. Good day to you, Nick, and thank you
for joining us here on the radio show.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
Good Morning, Pleasure to be back, doctor Bob.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Well, as I said, my sister thinks you walk on
water because of the vascular Defense by sun Nutrition over
at sunnutrition dot com. Because she was so happy Nick,
to get off of that zirelto drug as we have
discussed this, and happy with what's helping her with with

(17:02):
her circulatory problems in her lower extremities, which for which
her doctor says is completely cleared up, completely gone and
initiated and by a drug free treatment called vascular Defense.
So man, she would like to meet you someday and
give you a big hug.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Nick. Oh. I love its stories like that. I have
so many success stories like that, so that's great, especially
you that's why we had That's why I had to
get on your show and really spread the word because
I'm getting so many calls on the same issues and
for other things too, besides the blood clotting, and it

(17:45):
covers so many multi purposes.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Didn't you also have it? Didn't you also have a
circulatory problem with yourself?

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Nick?

Speaker 7 (17:54):
I did almost fifteen years ago, and they wanted me
like your sister or something called the alto, which I
later found out has over a seven hundred million dollar
lawsuit from all the side effects. But previous previous to that.
You know, you know, I'm a researcher, doctor Bob. I've
been doing this researching since nineteen sixty six, so I
devour everything I can about natural health means. And I

(18:17):
was studying a lot about systemic enzymes, and I said,
you know what, the same effects like your sister, they
wanted me on. They wanted me on that blood centner
for the rest of my life. The way it sounded,
I said, And I asked the doctor, I said, you
know much about systemic enzymes. I've been doing a lot
of research. No, we don't kind of study that stuff. So,

(18:37):
like you say on your show, I tried to become
my own best doctor, and they worked miracles. And then
over the course of the last over ten years, I've
been working on this formula for a lot of issues
other than just blood clots, for an array of stuff,
inflammation and circulatory problems, and now even for the we

(19:00):
can even talk even later, even for the COVID actually
from the vaccine damage which you talk about. I actually
added stuff into the formula like bromoline with the systemic enzymes,
but that's another issue. But I had the same issue.
It worked, wonders. I'm getting a lot of results like
your sister right.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Now, and ladies and Johnaen By no means are we
telling you that if you're taking one of these antiicoagulating drugs,
blood thinning drugs, it doesn't matter if it's plavix, Aspern, prodectsa,
zirelto kumitin. We're not telling you to stop taking any
drug whatsoever. We just don't do that on this radio show,
and you know, hand out something alternative to it. What

(19:40):
we're just suggesting is that you take a look at
the possibility that something may exist for you that may
be of benefit to you, like it was in my
sister's case, as in Nick's case, as in a lot
of other people who are now benefiting by taking the

(20:00):
nutritional formula that's drug free called Vascular Defense by Sun Nutrition.
You can learn about it, learn more about it, pick
it up over at sunnutrition dot com on the internet
sunnutrition dot Com.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Nick, what is it.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
We've got one minute left and we're gonna bring on
doctor Adam Brockman, and I'm gonna have him chime in also.
I know he has some questions for you. We're gonna
take a break, however, and when we return, I want
to get into, you know, not just with people who
have problems with those diseases they've already been diagnosed with,

(20:39):
whether it be phlebitis or intermittent clodication, or deep vein
thrombosis or miracos veins or venus stasis. A lot of
that goes on, but I'm talking about you know, people,
regular people, athletes who suddenly just drop in their tracks
with problems with clotting issues.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I want to get into that.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Doctor Adam Brockman brought up some very important points to me,
and I asked him to join us. He will do
that when we come back from this break, stay with us,
ladies and gentlemen. You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin Show,
and we'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
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Speaker 5 (21:20):
Next stake?

Speaker 6 (21:22):
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Speaker 5 (21:25):
How are you waiting til the time is night? Why?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
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Speaker 4 (21:34):
Don't you want to take the wheel and steer it?
Don't you beat another man?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Wait? What are you in for?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, we so appreciate you tuning into the Doctor Bob
Martin Show.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Thank you for that. And if you want to refer.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
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Speaker 2 (22:10):
That would be a good thing.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
We'll get back to our special guest, Nick Stern, CEO
and founder of Sun Nutrition, on the discussion. The topic
is how to improve circulation and reduce inflammation drug free
and if you will stick around during the break, there
we found out that Nick is going to give our
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(22:33):
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bring doctor brockmanon, I just wanted to mention another inflammatory
source in the human body that a lot of people

(22:54):
forget about, and that is your oral cavity. Your oral cavity,
your mouth.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
It is.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
It is a source of simmering, low grade infection, inflammation
and your gums, tooth problems, periodontal problems. I solved that
with myself and my family and many of my other
colleagues when we years and years ago, probably twenty plus
years ago, switched over from the typical commercial toothpaste like
Coldgate and Crest and all that junk. Read the label

(23:21):
on the box and it'll if you can pronounce those words,
I will be amazed, because there are so many chemicals
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(23:42):
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Speaker 2 (23:53):
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Speaker 3 (23:54):
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Speaker 2 (24:01):
The way that it works.

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And it works so well because it's plant based and
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Speaker 2 (24:10):
When you put it in the.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Oral cavity, the germs, the bacteria that's causing all the
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they look at it as food. They consume it, they die,
they leave the oral cavity, So it tricks them into
believing its food and they die and you win because
your teeth, your gums, everything's a lot healthier. So the
next time you're in the dental chair, they're going to say,

(24:33):
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(24:53):
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Speaker 2 (25:04):
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(25:29):
back to the conversation at hand. We're talking about circulation.
We're talking about inflammation. Doctor Adam Brockman has joined us here.
Doctor Brockman, you've heard the opening salvo there with Nick
Stearn about his saving my sister's life. She believes my sister, Mollie,
she had problems circulatorially. Her doctor had her on this

(25:49):
drug that had a lot of adverse side effects and
it still wasn't helping, and we were able to slowly
extricate her from that and onto the vascular defense by
sun nutrition. But you also have some questions to ask,
Nick Stern, do you.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
Not Yeah, I want to switch gears here a little
bit and talk about elite athletes with this, So welcome
Nick again, I'd like to I want to talk a
little bit more about this. I've treated a lot of
athletes through the through the years, including professional athletes, and
I saw recent media discussions concerning NBA players in blood clots.
They're linking this to their travel schedule. Well, I'm not

(26:27):
buying that completely. I think the recent increase in the
number of clots in these high level athletes, uh, these
NBA All Stars including Damian Lillard and Victor Wimbinyama are
it's closer linked to the NBA forcing these players to
get the COVID shot. So, so, Nick, I want to
get your thoughts on on this link between and do

(26:51):
you think it's the travel schedule that either there is
some risk with that, you know, prolonged activity, or do
you think there might be a better link to this
these high level athletes and the COVID shots, So what's
your thoughts on this.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
I think it's a combination, definitely. I see see I'm
an ex athlete myself and I ventured into the bodybuilding community,
and there's been a lot of deaths after the COVID shot, right,
I've never been so many, So I think there's a
lot got to do with the shot, but a lot
of inflammation. And I think there's many factors, but that

(27:25):
really the COVID shot really accelerated. You've never seen so much,
really young athletes going, but there's a lot of people
at the gym that have a high inflammation and a
lot of blood clotting going on. So I think it's
a combination of the shot and a lot of inflammation,
and this really cools down the system. The enzymes one
of the best things for cooling down the body. So

(27:47):
I think it's a combination of the both. If I
had to make an opinion on that, so.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Well, it sounds it sounds like it's a perfect storm situation.
With athletes, they do become the high idrated because they're
exercising and sweating a lot, and if they, like doctor
Adam Brockman said, they're on airplanes flying back and forth
and sitting for hours and hours on end. And let's
face it, not all athletes eat well. And they eat

(28:14):
the standard American diet because that's what they can get
a hold of. And that's a perfect storm ready for
And if they were forced into taking the clot shot,
the COVID shot by the NBA, yeah, that sets them up.
And now they're still generating these spike proteins in their
body which are inflammatory with everything it hits. I mean,
there has never been it's unprecedented. There's never been this

(28:36):
kind of heart attack percentage of young athletes ever before
COVID shots occurred. So how do you nick then with
an athlete who's concerned about this, how do you counsel
them with respect to the need for the taking of
the vascular defense.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
Really, I use it. I've actually I'm seventy two and
ever trained better in the last ten years. Taking it
actually works better over a period of time. It reduces
inflammation big time. I'd recommend before going on the plane flight,
and you got to take these on an empty stomach,
but before your plane flight, really pops them down, walk
up and down the aisles. We get that inflammation down

(29:20):
and then we can talk about later in the show
if you want to talk about the vaccine damage, how
it can affect that. Really, it can break down a
lot of the spike proteins, if you want to talk
about that.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
So, all right, anything else we've got to break coming up,
Doctor Brockman, We've got about forty five seconds.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
You want to throw something on this.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, I think the benefits of these systemic enzymes improve
blood circulation. It supports that cardiovascular help can reduce the
risk of heart disease or stroke. It's got, you know,
potential anti inflammatory effects that decreasing the inflammation like Nick
Nick was talking about, and I think it will decrease
the risk of things like the blood clotting even helping

(30:00):
stroke recovery.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay, gentlemen, We'll take a break and come back with
continue this conversation with Nick Stern about Sun Nutrition's vascular
defense supplement over at sunnutrition dot com. Sunnutrition dot Com.
You're tuned into the Doctor Bob Martin Show.

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(32:17):
you're just tuning into the program we have with us
Nick Stern, who's a prolific nutraceutical researcher and the creator
of really a miracle supplement. I think, or at least
my sister, my older sister thinks, because she was able
to benefit and still benefiting still taking the vascular defense

(32:40):
formula from sun Nutrition, because she had gotten into some
problems circulation problems with her lower extremities, and it was
got to the point where she had to visit her
local MD in the state of Oklahoma, and he placed
her on what doctors will do, a drug to reduce

(33:03):
the clotting so that she didn't have a worse problem.
But unfortunately, she started to have lots of adverse side
effects and she was nervous about taking the drug in
the first place. We had a conversation, she and I did,
and I said, well, there is a nutritional supplement that
can handle this. Are you interested? She was, I explained it.
She subsequently got it, started taking it. Her blood numbers

(33:26):
have completely resolved themselves. There are certain blood chemistries that
can tell you if you're seeing high inflammation and blood
viscosity with the potential for clotting, all of those cleared up.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
She's feeling good.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
And so there are people, lots of people who are
listening to the Son of My Voice who have circulatory problems,
whether it's cold feet, or they're having phlebitis or intermittent claudication.
They've been diagnosed to with a deep vein thrombosis or
vehicleose veins or venus stasis. There are a lot of
problems that could be helped with lifestyle changes, including exercise

(34:03):
and proper diet and also nutritional supplementation. In this regard,
it has to do with the enzymes within the vascular
formula that go in and sort of like pac man,
eat up the little clotting factors, the proteins that are
making all the trouble and the inflammation and without any
potential adverse side effects. There is a way to start

(34:26):
on this, and Nick is going to tell us how
to do that, But I want to circle back Nick
and doctor Adam Brockman, who's also with us to the
COVID situation. A lot of people are knowing and have
heard about long COVID syndrome where they have fatigue, they
have pain, they have these weird coughs that never go away,

(34:46):
and a whole long list of supplement of symptoms that
they go to their doctors' offices for and the doctor
can't help them and said, well, it's just time and
you're getting old, and they try to do something but
they can't. They don't have anything in their toolbox. And
then they find out that it's the spike proteins. And
the good news is doctor Peter McCullough was talking about this,

(35:09):
I'm sure you know about it, Nick, about taking these
systemic enzymes and other things to uncouple the spike protein
which is attached to these tissues causing all this inflammation
in the body. He's now recommending similar things that you
have in the vascular defense formula, which is great.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
Yes, I actually developed this product for my own blood
clots and cardivascular disease, which my family has a history of.
But come twenty twenty, COVID hits and I started studying
doctor McCullough's work and I added bromolene kind of at
the last minute before I put the product to market
because now the combination of the enzymes with the bromoline

(35:49):
and they have the nitric oxide releasers has a really
great synergetic effect. I'm breaking up spike proteins and unused proteins.
So yeah, I've been getting great results for the multi
use of this product, blood clotting, the vaccine damage. So
it's really I call it multipurpose cartovascular health. So it

(36:10):
covers so many things.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
This product all right, and folks would be interested in
finding out more about it, go over to their website
sunnutrition dot com. Sunnutrition dot com. You're looking for vascular defense.
Vascular defense now, and it doesn't really matter whether it's
if you suspect, if you had a COVID shot. The

(36:34):
likelihood of you having spike proteins is very high. Whether
you know it now or you'll know it in the future.
It may come back to roost on you, and for
I hope it doesn't, but it can. This is a
way to get out in front of it. And if
you are having symptoms of long COVID the fatigue, the
can't figure out what's causing it. It's not sleeping well inflammation.

(36:56):
You might give it a round or three to see
if you can get some help or if you've got
circulatory problems, you certainly are a candidate.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Nick.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
When we come back, I want to have you describe
how to take Vascular Defense and if there are any
adverse side effects to be concerned about, we'll come back
with that. Stay tuned, you're tuned into the Doctor Bob
Martin Show.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Someone gonna stand by.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Doctor Bob Marten back with you. Doctor Adam Brockman is here.
We've got Nick Stern here from Sun Nutrition. We're talking
about circulatory challenges. We're talking about inflammation. We're talking about
people who are still reeling as a result of taking
the COVID shot, the clock shot, we call it. And

(37:55):
I want to remind you that there is something that
can help all of them without any potential adverse side effects.
Let's ask the expert. But I also want to make
sure you realize that as a listener of this radio show,
you can save money if you order Vascular Defense over
at sunnutrition dot com twenty percent off today and shipping

(38:17):
is free. When you go to the site sunnutrition dot com,
just hit the VIP button and it'll walk you through
exactly what to do any problem Nick Stern with potential
adverse side effects with taking vascular defense.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
No, none, you could take it's called the effective dose.
You could take high doses is if you have high inflammation,
you could take more than just a recommended dose. They
found out your people got actually healthier. So it's it's
self regulating. It's called sow.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Do you start off slower in the beginning? Is there
is there? Is it a good idea to start off
slow and and build up.

Speaker 7 (38:56):
Yes, I like a three to one week period. Start
with one. See how your body reacts. Because these are
therapeutic dosages in this I recommend one right before you
go to bed. Empty stomach, one first thing in the morning. Now,
if you have high inflammation, what's a therapeutic dose you
could start adding in to you find the effective dose.

(39:16):
This is for people that have trauma, maybe a lot
of star tissue, they've been in an accident. So for
high inflammation, you can take more than two a day
until the cooling I call it the cooling effect, cool
the inflammation down. You go back to two. But I
recommend starting with one your first week, build up to two.
Empty stomach, always empty stomach.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Okay, and doctor Brockman. Did you have any other questions
you want to ask?

Speaker 7 (39:40):
Nick?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, yeah, we may.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
Mention of the systemic enzymes, but Nick, can you tell
us more about the nitric oxide blend that is in
this and why that is so important?

Speaker 7 (39:49):
Oh? Really important. It's the only product. This is why
I figured a lot of people, you know, the nitric
oxide releasing and opening up the arteries and all that.
It's really a great thing. But what's the pac man?
So nobody really combine the nitric oxide releasers which we
have extracts our twenty to one and thirty one. People
could check out the formula on our site. But I

(40:10):
call it the clean and flow difference, where you're cleaning
with the enzymes and you're flowing with the proprietary nitric
oxide blend we have.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
All right, Very good ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Take advantage of the twenty percent money saving discount when
you order Vascular Defense by Sun Nutrition today. Go to
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(40:43):
Nick Stern, thank you so very much for formulating this.
My sister is in love with you. She wants to
meet you someday. She thinks you saved her life. Doctor
Adam Brockman.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
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