July 14, 2025 • 40 mins
Did you know one in three Americans might unknowingly host a brain-invading parasite that alters
behavior, increases risk-taking, and has been linked to schizophrenia? This microscopic squatter,
often contracted from undercooked meat or cat litter, forms dormant cysts in your brain for
decades, subtly hijacking dopamine and triggering fatigue, brain fog, and impulsivity (yes, that
reckless driving spree might not be entirely your fault). While healthy immune systems usually
keep it in check, pregnant women and immunocompromised individuals face severe risks,
including miscarriage or seizures.
Special On-Location Interview of Nate Jones, CEO of Xlear Nasal Sprays and Spry Dental
Defense, at Xlear’s 25 year Anniversary
behavior, increases risk-taking, and has been linked to schizophrenia? This microscopic squatter,
often contracted from undercooked meat or cat litter, forms dormant cysts in your brain for
decades, subtly hijacking dopamine and triggering fatigue, brain fog, and impulsivity (yes, that
reckless driving spree might not be entirely your fault). While healthy immune systems usually
keep it in check, pregnant women and immunocompromised individuals face severe risks,
including miscarriage or seizures.
Special On-Location Interview of Nate Jones, CEO of Xlear Nasal Sprays and Spry Dental
Defense, at Xlear’s 25 year Anniversary
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years to your life, it's about adding life to those years.
Stay tuned the entire hour as we have a special
guest interview coming up. But first I want to bring
some light to a silent brain parasite. It's a thrilling
tale of microscopic mayhem, the parasite that's already in your head.
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And no it's not an inner monologue here. I want
you to picture this a tiny brain invading parasite. It
sneaks into your skull, sets up shop, and starts throwing
wild parties in your neurons, all without you noticing sounds
like the plot of a B rated movie, right, But
here's a twist. It's Toxoplasma Gandhi or TOSO for short.
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It isn't fiction. It's a real life, microscopic squatter that's
already chill and up to one hundred million American brains.
That's right, one in three people. They might be hosting
this uninvited guest. So how does it get in, what's
it doing up there? And most importantly, how do you
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evict it before it turns your brain into a personal Airbnb.
I want you to buckle up because we're going to
dive into the wild world of Toso, where science meets suspense,
and your cat might be the unwitting accomplice. So basic
bio here, it's a coffee bean sized criminal, and Tokso
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Gandhi is a single celled parasite with a knack for
the drama. Its favorite host, like I said, is your cat. Yes,
Fluffy might be harboring a secret life as a parasite distributor.
Toso looks like a tiny coffee bean, but don't let
it size fool you. It's got Olympic level skills in
hide and seek. The prevalence of this. The normal numbers
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of this are scarier than a horror movie. Researchers at
the University of California Riverside crush the numbers and found
that ten to thirty percent of Americans are infected. That's
thirty five to one hundred million people, roughly the combined
populations of Texas, California, Florida, and New York. If toso
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were a social media trend, it'd be viral. This is
how toxo gets into your brain, and undercooked meat like
a medium rare pork chop more like medium Beware, toxo
loves to hitch a ride in undercooked meat, especially pork, lamb,
and wild game. You probably heard this again through cat
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litter discussions. Scooping the litter box without gloves you might
as well be licking a subway pole. Kittens are especially
risky here, as they're like tiny toxo factories. But those
aren't the two culprits. There's also so unwashed veggies and
contaminated soiled like Even organic foods can harbor this, so
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you need to always wash those vegetables and wash your
hands if you're digging in gardening. The the ultimate squatter
here once again. Toxo migrates to your muscles and your brain.
There it forms cysts that can lie dorminant for as
much as years decades.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Think of it like a.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Bad roommate who never pays rent but keeps eating your leftovers.
The symptoms, they can be pretty pretty silent and subtle.
Most people never notice that they're infected. When symptoms do appear,
they're sneaky, like low grade flu, like fatigue, swollen lyft nodes.
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Maybe you might have mild muscle aches or the occasional
brain fog. Basically, toxo is the ultimate gas lighter, making
you feel off but never giving you a clear reason why.
It starts to hijack your behavior. Studies show that toxo
messes with dopamine levels the brains feel good chemical. The
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result here is higher impulsivity. Suddenly that skydiving groupon seems
like a great idea. It obviously causes more of an
increase in risk taking. Infected drivers there twice as likely
to crash, per a study, also causes moodswains. One minute
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you're fine, in the next minute, you're crying over a
cat video. Toxo it's been linked to fifty percent higher
risk of schizophrenia. The correlation does not equal the causation here,
but it is very suspicious. There's also elevated depression rates
with this, because I mean, I wouldn't be bummed if
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I was hosting a parasite. The at risk populations include
pregnant women that acute infection can cause miscarriage or birth defects,
and immunal compromise folks, dormancysts they reactivate in least to
seizures or even brain swelling. The symptom checklist probably ignore it,
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but you need to ask yourself. Do you feel tired
all the time, even after sleeping. Do your muscles ache
like you ran a marathon in your sleep? Or is
your focus slower than a dialed up internet connection? Maybe
your behavior it's suddenly risky, like impulse bies reckless driving.
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If you check two or more of these and you're
a fan of a rare steak or pork or cat cuddles,
it's time to spec toso. The detection of this sometimes
can be harder than finding waldo. The current test it's
a smoke without the fire. Blood tests can sh if
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you've ever been infected, but they can't tell if toxo
is currently throwing that rave in your brains. The scientists
at uc Riverside discovered that infected neurons release fewer extracellular vesicles,
which are basically tiny cellular emails. If this can be
measured in a blood, we might soon have a real
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time toxo detector and MRIs can show this, but they're
expensive last resorts. They could spot brain lesions in severe cases,
but they're not practical for routine testing, so the treatment options.
If you're healthy and asymptomatic, your immune system usually keeps
toxo in checked, but if you have acute infections and
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it's a little bit harder, doctors may prescribe something that
lasts for four to six weeks, but it causes some
side effects like a bone marrow suppression, so lab tests
are a must here, and pregnant women as often it's
Spearmyacin is often used in the first trimester to protect
the baby and immune compromised individuals. The higher doses that
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has longer treatments, but the antibiotics that use prolonged can
cause a host of other issues. The prevention here needs
to be cooking your meat at higher temperatures. One hundred
and forty five degrees for whole cuts, one hundred and
sixty degrees fahrenheit for ground meat. And you can also
freeze meat and it kills the kills a lot of
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these cysts in forty eight hours. And again, wash those
vegetables because that's where they can host some of those
soil contanements. Cat hygiene. Scoop your litter daily. Also, if
you're pregnant, delegate literity duty to somebody else. All right,
we're coming up on a break, and when we come back,
we are going to tie in this conversation with a
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special guest that's going to talk to us. So you're
listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Welcome que Cave,
Welcome back to the Doctor Bob Martin Show. I'm doctor
Adam Broffman, and we're going to tie in our first
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topic with how important our oral and nasal health is.
We're going to go right into an interview that I'm
going to share with you about on location with Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear, the makers of Clear nasal sprays
and Spread dental defense systems. Clear celebrated their twenty fifth
anniversary recently in American Fork Utah, and let's go ahead
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right into the interview. Please join me in welcoming a visionary,
a leader, a pioneer of proactive health, in the driving
force behind a company that has revolutionized natural wellness. Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear, who has been a longtime supporter
of the show, and likewise we support Nate's vision of safe,
effective and natural products. Nate was born in Kansas City
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and raised in the heart of Idaho's communities. Nate's journey
began in a household where healthcare wasn't just a profession,
it was a calling. His father, doctor Lawn, the town doctor,
instilled in him an early appreciation for healing and service,
values that would later define Nate's life's work. From the
rugged landscapes of Idaho to the bustling streets of Mexico City,
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and finally to the mountains of Utah, where he graduated.
Nate's upbringing has a masterclass in adaptability, resilience, in the
power of community. But Nate's path to founding Clear was
in anything but lenear after a year of college, a
stint in active military service in a two year church mission,
he traded textbooks for diving gear training as a commercial
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diver in Seattle. For five years, he worked in the
oil fields of Louisiana, harnessing courage and precision in the
depths of the Gulf. Yet it was his return to
Utah in two thousand that marked a pivotal turn. Drawing
on his roots and health care and his passion for
empowering others, Nate founded with a bold mission to transform
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lives through proactive health. Over the past twenty five years,
he's built Clear into a global leader, pioneering xylotol based
innovations in sinus and oral care that blends nature's wisdom
with cutting edge science. From Spry oral products for dental
health to Clear nasal sprays that three defined respiratory wellness.
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Nate's work has touched millions, proving that health isn't just
about treating problems, it's about preventing them. As we celebrate
Great Clear's twenty fifth anniversary here in American Fork, Utah,
where the Doctor Bob Martin Show is on location, we're
honoring not just a company, but a legacy, a legacy
of innovation and an unwavering commitment to helping people breathe easier,
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live healthier, and take control of their wellbeing.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Please welcome Nate Jones.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Hello, nateho and after that, I think I should retire.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's a little bit long winded, right, but.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Oh, I don't know that I can do anything better.
It's just going to be down here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Great, it's already twenty five years and life's work is
you're doing a great job at it. So, Nate Clear
had a very intriguing start. I think it's one that
listeners would enjoy hearing about. Can you elaborate on your
father's influence on clear start?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And so, my dad, as you mentioned, is a physician,
and as you mentioned, even growing up he was more
forward thinking than most of your physicians. He thought that antibiotics,
again this is in the seventies and the eighties. He
thought that antibiotics were good, but that there was a
big downside to using antibiotics. And so growing up, I
don't recall ever having used antibiotics, and I know that
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my dad tried not to, but that's the kind of
doctor he was. He was always trying to find something
to work with the body, not against the body, and
the way that he came up with using xylotol, a
sugar molecule simply a sugar molecule in a nasal spray.
Is he had a bunch of kids in these practiced
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that there were babies that were having recurrent ear infections,
lots of ear infections over and over, and the typical doctor,
your average doctor, would have just kept prescribing antibiotics, antibiotics, antibiotics.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
And my dad went online and he started searching around.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
He started quiring trying to figure out something other than
antibiotics to prevent ear infections from What kept coming up
and these queries was actually dental studies, studies where they
were looking at how xylotol prevents tooth decay. And you
know what they would say is, you know, the xylotol
people in the xylotol and the test group, not only
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were they not getting cavities, but also the data we've
left that they had about forty percent fewer ear infections,
fewer respiratory infections. And it wasn't until nineteen ninety eight
there was a paper that came out and I believe
it was the Journal Anamic pro Chemotherapy, where they showed
the method of action. What was going on is that
xylotol is actually binding up on bacteriod and on tissue
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and blocking the ability of the bacteria to adhere to
the tissue. And if you get the candid here to
the tissue, you're not gonna get sick because it just
it has to adhere, it has to enter the tissue,
and if you're blocking that.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Adhesion, obviously you're not gonna get sick.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He read all that and he goes, well, I can't
give a two year old baby chewing them. But the
air infection started the nose. We bought some saline, opened
it up and port some xylotol in there, and started
sporting up their nose.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And the kids stopped getting sick.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
And it wasn't that they stopped having air infections, it
was that they stopped having allergy issues. That stopped having
you know, a host of a variety of issues. And
my dad started giving it to older kids and kids
that were coming in for allergy shots every couple of weeks.
Within you know, two or three weeks, they were out
playing basketball and doing gymnastics. They were getting rid of
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those allergies and these other respiratory issues.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Because if you have one respiratory issue, chances are you
have more than one.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
You have a number and the reason for that is
that you have in your upper airway. If you have
these chronic issues, you're probably going to have a biofilm.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
And the xylotol.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
One of the things we've known for a long long
time is that xylotol is very effective of breaking these
biofilms up.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
In the nineties, I'm assuming that was probably a word
that nobody had even heard of.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
How did he come up with xylotol?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
He was just querying on the internet, you know this
internet thing. Back then, PubMed came online, I think it
was ninety seven, ninety eight, and he was querying on
PubMed preventing ear infections, reducing ear infection, stuff like that,
and he didn't know as xylatol was.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
I mean before that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
The interesting thing is before pub men, the doctors, the physicians,
because they're all doctors. But the physicians would never cross
reference their studies to the dental studies because those are
dentists or physicians. You know, we don't want to mix
the two. And it wasn't until pet came online that
you could query preventing ear infections and it would querry
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through all of the dental research days, and that's really
how he came up with them.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, great, great, clear.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It began with a focus on Xylotol's untapped potential and
oral and nasal health. And as you're celebrating twenty five years,
how has the company's original mission evolved in what pivotal
moments our decision shaped its growth into a natural leader
in natural wellness?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Well, a lot of those are accidental, I should say,
I mean they're not that we're visionary. So we started
the company with the nasal spray, and within a couple
of years we had customers that were asking us and saying, Hey,
we're coming to you to buy our Xylotel nasal spray,
why don't you also carry the xylotal gum and some toothpaste.
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And so we started learning about all the dental benefits.
We started carrying the gum, we started making toothpaste, as
we started making mouth wash.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
We learned a.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Lot of other things as time went on, and about
fifteen years ago, I want to say close to about
fifteen years ago, we actually came out with a dental probiotic,
which didn't sell very well. I think it was well
ahead of its time. I think that fifteen years ago,
people were barely even starting to understand what a gut
probiotic is. They much you know, it's a much better
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understood concept today, and so we're actually coming back out
with that. We should have that out on the market
in the next month or two. I'm excited for that
to come back out. It's it's actually a great product.
It's a little stick pack and so after you brush
your teeth at night, you can and it's sugar, it's
blueberry flavored, it's got vitamin D, it's got silid tall,
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it's got calsum, it's got everything you need for your
mouth to be healthy overnight.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well you heard it here now, I think that's a
great idea of the probiotics have definitely came a long
way over the last last decade or so, so I
think I think just bring a little bit more attention
to that, it's going to be going to be a
great thing.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Great thing for the market.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And Nate in a market that's been saturated with synthetic products,
clear pioneered natural alternatives, what were the biggest hurdles in
educating consumers and competing against these big, established corporate brands.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I think the biggest impediment or the biggest hurdles are
actually the government. And what I mean by that is
we sell hygiene products, and you know, a lot of
people think that we can go out and make the
same claims that supplement companies can make, and that it's
as easy as making a structure functioning claim. But that
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isn't the case because we're not supplements. We're hygiene products.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, We're coming up on a break with but
we're gonna get right back into our interview with Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear. You are listening to the Doctor
Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Are you waiting on a line next, Jake? Are you
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Don't you want to take the wheel and stand? Don't
you beating now the man?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
What are you? Welcome back everyone, We hope you enjoyed
that break. You are listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
I'm doctor Adam Brockman, your co pilot on your health journey.
We're gonna get right back to our interview with Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You know when the FDA really got founded, you know,
a century ago almost I guess the soap company lobby.
The soap companies lobbied very heavily for them not to
be considered a drug, because the definition of a drug
is is anything that I'm trying that kills an invading organism,
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anything that changes the structure function of the human body,
or anything that people perceive as a drug. Those are
the three criteria for the drugs, and the soap industry
lobbied really heavily for that not to be for them
not to be included. But what happened there is the
soap companies can't go out and say wash your hands
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to stop the spread of disease, which is incredibly obtuse.
The CDC and public health agencies picked that up and
they went out and talked to people. We all know
about washing our hands. And it's not from the soap companies.
It's because public health agencies were out there doing it.
They were out there talking about it. When we came
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out with the idea of nasal hygiene, that was kind
of a new concept.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Before we came along.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
The only thing that people did was they'd use a
saline spray every now and then, and even even before
two thousand, it wasn't common for people to use saline sprays.
Yeah you had, you had a couple of them out
there that were that were just tiny little companies, but
not like it is today. And you know, using a
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saline spray is kind of like just washing your.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Hands with water. We add to that weed when you
put xylotol into it. Again, what the xylotol does.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It works kind of like the soap and it ur
factor or this or facton and the soap it blocks bacteria,
it blocks adhesion. It makes it easier for your body
to just wash them away, the same concept as what
soap does.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
But where I'm going with this. That was a long answer.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
But we can't actually say what our products do, okay,
and so how it So it's becomes very difficult because
of government regulations for us to actually go out and say,
wash your nose and you're not going to get sick
that much. You know, if you wash all the bacteria
out of your nose, you know you're not going.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
To get sick that much.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I mean during COVID, uh, you know, we really pushed
and we finally got some studies done and they showed
that if you used axyloton nasal spray or a nasal
spray was something else like Iota kara genin that blocked
the stars COVID two virus from bedhering to the tissue,
you reduced your instance of the illness by almost eighty percent.
And that's pretty typical what you're going to see across
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the board. We had a study that was finally finished
with where they were looking at ear infections and kids
where they used our xylotone nasal spray and just by
using it once in the morning once at night, they
reduced their ear infections by about seventy five percent.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And we did a study on ear.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Infections back in the two thousand what do you call
them the odds in like two thousand and seven, And
when we actually sent that data to get published in
one of the pediatric journals, the editor who was in
charge of reviewing the studies, he just read the data
and he goes, I'm not even sending this out to review.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
This is stupid, This is dumb.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
No, you don't get these reductions in respiratory illnesses by
springing sugar water up your nose. Wouldn't even send it
out for a peer of you just couboshed it right there.
It wasn't a drug, No way was it going to
be able to be published in their journal.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And so Queer's product line from Spry oral care to
the clear nasal sprays is known for that innovation you've
just been talking about. How do you balance that scientific
rigor that again studies and everything else trying to get
some of these things published with the consumer needs when
developing these new products again like you just talked about
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with the probiotic as well.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Well, what we do is we actually look at the
data that's being out that's being put out there with
regards to the research in xylatol. In fact I mentioned earlier,
I have to leave here. I'm flying over to Barcelona,
Spain this afternoon because this week there is a conference
in Spain the International Association of Dental Researchers, and there's
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about eight different research centers where they're actually looking at
xylotol and they're doing xylotol research, and so we're gaining
all of them together. We're taking them all to dinner
so they can sit and discuss and collaborate and we
look and discuss what the future of xylotol. Is there's
a lot of really promising research that's being done right now,
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some of it here in the US at Northwestern, some
of it being done in other countries with xylotol and
cancer and it's and it's phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Some of those studies have already come out.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
There were some studies that came out with regards to xylotol,
erythrotol and and autism. You know, just getting rid of it,
and a lot of large part of it is replacing
the sugar, the six carbon sugars because you know, I
think everybody agrees by now that that's kind of a
toxic in the end, and especially in the levels that
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most of us eat it, that's a toxic substance.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Absolutely, Well, let's switch gears and talk about the twenty
fifth anniversary. Now Clear is headquartered right here in American Fork, Utah.
How has the local community influenced your company's values in
What initiatives are you most proud of in terms of
giving back and or advancing natural health advocacy.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Well, I would like to say that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
We have donated a lot of product to initiatives in
our state, but we happened We've offered many, many times,
and the state has never actually accepted it. We've offered
to donate a lot of gum to start siloitol gum
chewing programs in schools.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
The state said no. During COVID, we.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Offered to donate I can't remember if it was ten
thousand or one hundred thousand, but a ridiculous amount of
clear and our state epidemiologist when we offered, she simply said, well,
did the FDA approve it for treating COVID? And I
said no, it's a nasal spray that just washes it
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out of your nose. And she says, well, then I
kind of taken. And so we've offered many times, but
our public health agencies have flat out refused anything.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
So I don't know if that's a legacy, but we're.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Working on Yeah, yeah, hey, hey, it's all about education.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, well, I'll say I'll say that my family we
absolutely love all the products, and that's one of the
first things we actually do is somebody's got a sniffle,
you know, you use some clear nasal spray. So I think, again,
it's a it's an education process, and that's what you know,
that's what we like to do on the on the
show here, we definitely definitely love the Clear products and Nate,
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as you're looking ahead, what emerging trends in natural health
excites you the most and how will Clear inspribe products
adapt to meet these future demands while staying true to
core mission and values over the next twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
And I think that what I'm really excited about is
the possibility that are that are coming out of Washington,
d C. With Robert Kennedy with the MOHA movement. The
interesting thing is is my dad, who you should talk
to later. He actually wrote a book that came out
over a year ago now called Make America, Making America,
(29:19):
So you know, he's kind of the original MAHA. But
he came out with the book, you know, over a
year ago, and you know, the whole idea of what
they're doing in Washington, d C. And hopefully breaking the
stranglehold that the pharmaceutical industry has on health. I think
(29:43):
that's that's as important as anything else in our country
right now.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
All right, it's time for a quick break, but don't
go anywhere. You are listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
So your saw your dad.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Hamza.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I'm a bush of this number, Simon. They have one
never single minds up.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Only.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I want to stop to welcome back. You are listening
to the Doctor Bob Bartin Show. I'm your co host,
doctor Adam Brockman, and we're excited to continue our journey
towards better health with you. We're gonna get right back
to our interview with Nate Jones, the CEO of Clear.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Even if you just go do a Google's I think
it was on Google. It might have been on one
of the AI platforms. But if you just do a
search and query, how much of the reduction in in
in illnesses and epidemics and pandemics over the last hundred
years was attributable to medicine, to the pharmaceutical industry, and
(31:09):
how much of it was could be contributed to improvements
in hygiene and sanitation. It was ninety three percent high
gene and sanitation, seven percent attributed to antibiotics and all
the other medical interventions combined. Okay, but yet our government
and our public health agencies are so hyper focused on
the pharmaceuticals. And I'm hoping that the MAHA movement will
(31:32):
actually go back to what really caused these improvements, which
was really improvements in hygiene, improvements in sanitation, getting water
piped to our house. Understanding, we wash our hands every day,
we take a shower, we wash our clothes, we wash
our bedding, you know, we brush our teeth. And the
other place where we get sick all the time is
(31:53):
our nose. So the idea that we should be washing
our nose every morning and washing it every night before
we go to bed be a big stretch and it's
something that I'm really.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Hoping that the Mahu movement can get behind.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, I agree with that, and I think the big
thing is is following the money trail there and how
and hopefully with this new UH new administration in with
with Robert F. Kennedy Junior, that we'll see some of
that where it actually breaks that money trail. We can
get back to some of these these type of things.
I think that's the which again kind of leads me
into my next question here about the UH. What hurdles
(32:28):
have the Federal Trade Commission had on getting the word
out about the benefits of XILOTL and UH and the
studies that you've you've done and UH and the roadblock there.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Is well, the FTC.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
The only time they ever became a real problem when
a roadblock was during COVID. So when I started clearing
back in two thousand, you know, I didn't know what
I was doing. It was a diver And I took
the study that my dad had done, which was just
a clinical study in these practice He you know, said, hey,
you know, I took all these kids and I put
them on this naval spray and they stopped getting sick.
(33:03):
And he took their medical records going back I think
it was eighteen months, and then going forward eighteen months
and just wrote a paper on the comparison between that
and he had shown like a ninety two percent reduction
in respiratory infections, and I think it was like the
vast majority of the eight percent that were left was
actually one kid who refused the lady's parents.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Spray as knows, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
So it was phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
It was a phenomenal, you know, case study.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
And when I first started, you know, running ads in
some of these magazines, you know, I didn't know what
I was doing. I put some of the results from
that study in these magazines and the FTC sent me
a paper letter. Again, this is two thousand, they sent
me a paper letter and said, hey, you need to
call this and so I called him and I spent
half an hour forty five minutes on the phone. And
what they they outlined is they said, hey, you have
(33:51):
to have some data, some studies showing what your product
is is creating muse results. And I said, well, we
have the studies showing that it blocked the ability of bacteria,
strip noumal ah flu and cat to adhere to tissue.
They said, then you can go ahead and say that
that's been published in the peer review literature. You know,
case studies aren't peer reviewed, which is what their argument was.
(34:13):
And so we went and we put it on our box.
You know, blocks bacterial adhesion, reduces bacterial adhesion, and we
did that for while.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
We still do it today.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
So we've been doing that for twenty five years. But
during COVID in twenty twenty, there was a study that
came out of the University of Tennessee where they showed
that Xylotal blocked stars.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
COVID two from adhering to the tissue.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
So we started talking about that, and there was other
studies that came out of Vanderbilt where they showed they're
just using salt water to flesh out the nose reduced
I mean, patients that had COVID one hundred percent of
them were all better under a week if they just
used salt water. And we were trying to share that,
I mean, not even our product we're tracking, you know,
we're trying to share that washing your nose with even
(35:00):
saltwater would have reduced that. And the FTC actually sent
us a warning letter. They didn't call us, they didn't
talk to us ahead of time, which is what you're
supposed to do. They just sent us a warning letter
and said, hey, all these people are dying. You need
to shut up and stop talking about these studies where
they're not dying and anything that isn't you know, approved
(35:22):
by the government. And of course I said, well we
have the studies. The studies are right here showing and
backing up everything we said. And they said, well, we
don't like those studies, and you know, they said shut up,
and I said no, and we kept discussing these and
as more data came out, we continued to share that
data and the FTC came back and they argued and said, well,
(35:44):
that study that was done at the University of Tennessee.
That wasn't you know, that wasn't done on human airway tissue. Well,
it was done on very kidney monkey tissue, which is
the pharmaceutical standard. That's what is the standard for the
pharmaceutical industry. And you would think that we'll was a
standard for the pharmaceutical industry would be acceptable to the FTC.
I mean, it's acceptable to the FDA the FTC. It
(36:07):
obviously isn't. And they said, we got to go do
it on human airway tissue. So we went and did
an on human airway tissue. And when we did it
on the human airway tissue, we did it looking at
stars COVID two, We did it looking at RSV, We
did it looking at H one N one H five
in one, which is bird flu. And we did it
with a variety of different sugar molecules, not just xylotol.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
User with tall use sorbitall. We use a couple of
these other sugars.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
And what we found was interesting, really interesting, was that
different sugar molecules actually affected different viruses differently in how
they could and how they blocked the tesion. We went
to share that study with the FTC, and this is
where I realized that the FTC didn't care about the science.
They didn't care about anything except shutting up any voice
(36:51):
that the went against what they wanted.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
All right, it's time to take another quick break. You
are listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Let's just
see what you creeping the phone?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Just dtop all those things I.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Should do, but you dees is at noyers been so sky.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Just just destop. Oh something magical.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It's been here. It's in my Burtist question. Don't eat
no reasons, don't be controlled?
Speaker 5 (37:37):
He control?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
That's so high seem all right, Welcome back to the
Doctor Bob Martin Show, where we've been interviewing Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear. We're gonna get back to the
final stretch of that interview now.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
We actually pointed out and said it shows right here
that it blocks RSD, and it shows right here that
it blocks OARS, COVID two and right here.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
And they said, well, you can say it about RSV,
you can say it about H one N one, you
can say it about H five in one. You can't
say it about COVID.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
And the fact that that they're about service COVID too,
and the fact that you have an agency saying okay,
you have a study, and three of these things are
saying you can talk about, but the fourth one you can.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
It's the same study.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
It's not about the science, it's about government censorship, and
it's about government control. I stood up, and there coming
after me, trying to shut me down.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
And it seemed to be the case with talking about
COVID across the board of anybody that had any opinions
that differed from what they wanted to put out there,
it was an automatic stop with that. Yeah, and well, Nate,
I know you've got a busy day today, so I
want to thank you for taking the time to be
with us on the Doctor Bob Martin Show. And we're
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here to celebrate Clears twenty fifth anniversary. Congratulations for that.
Today we dodge brain pairs sites and listen to Clear
CEO Nate Jones drop the kind of wisdom that makes
your neurons do backflips. He reminded us, innovation isn't invention,
it's empathy meeting engineering. I invite you to go to
(39:14):
Clear dot com that's spelled x l ear dot com
to find the Clear nasal sprays in the spray dental
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years to your life, it's about adding life to those years.
Stay tuned the entire hour as we have a special
guest interview coming up. But first I want to bring
some light to a silent brain parasite. It's a thrilling
tale of microscopic mayhem, the parasite that's already in your head.
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And no it's not an inner monologue here. I want
you to picture this a tiny brain invading parasite. It
sneaks into your skull, sets up shop, and starts throwing
wild parties in your neurons, all without you noticing sounds
like the plot of a B rated movie, right, But
here's a twist. It's Toxoplasma Gandhi or TOSO for short.
(03:54):
It isn't fiction. It's a real life, microscopic squatter that's
already chill and up to one hundred million American brains.
That's right, one in three people. They might be hosting
this uninvited guest. So how does it get in, what's
it doing up there? And most importantly, how do you
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evict it before it turns your brain into a personal Airbnb.
I want you to buckle up because we're going to
dive into the wild world of Toso, where science meets suspense,
and your cat might be the unwitting accomplice. So basic
bio here, it's a coffee bean sized criminal, and Tokso
(04:36):
Gandhi is a single celled parasite with a knack for
the drama. Its favorite host, like I said, is your cat. Yes,
Fluffy might be harboring a secret life as a parasite distributor.
Toso looks like a tiny coffee bean, but don't let
it size fool you. It's got Olympic level skills in
hide and seek. The prevalence of this. The normal numbers
(05:00):
of this are scarier than a horror movie. Researchers at
the University of California Riverside crush the numbers and found
that ten to thirty percent of Americans are infected. That's
thirty five to one hundred million people, roughly the combined
populations of Texas, California, Florida, and New York. If toso
(05:21):
were a social media trend, it'd be viral. This is
how toxo gets into your brain, and undercooked meat like
a medium rare pork chop more like medium Beware, toxo
loves to hitch a ride in undercooked meat, especially pork, lamb,
and wild game. You probably heard this again through cat
(05:43):
litter discussions. Scooping the litter box without gloves you might
as well be licking a subway pole. Kittens are especially
risky here, as they're like tiny toxo factories. But those
aren't the two culprits. There's also so unwashed veggies and
contaminated soiled like Even organic foods can harbor this, so
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you need to always wash those vegetables and wash your
hands if you're digging in gardening. The the ultimate squatter
here once again. Toxo migrates to your muscles and your brain.
There it forms cysts that can lie dorminant for as
much as years decades.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Think of it like a.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Bad roommate who never pays rent but keeps eating your leftovers.
The symptoms, they can be pretty pretty silent and subtle.
Most people never notice that they're infected. When symptoms do appear,
they're sneaky, like low grade flu, like fatigue, swollen lyft nodes.
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Maybe you might have mild muscle aches or the occasional
brain fog. Basically, toxo is the ultimate gas lighter, making
you feel off but never giving you a clear reason why.
It starts to hijack your behavior. Studies show that toxo
messes with dopamine levels the brains feel good chemical. The
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result here is higher impulsivity. Suddenly that skydiving groupon seems
like a great idea. It obviously causes more of an
increase in risk taking. Infected drivers there twice as likely
to crash, per a study, also causes moodswains. One minute
(07:32):
you're fine, in the next minute, you're crying over a
cat video. Toxo it's been linked to fifty percent higher
risk of schizophrenia. The correlation does not equal the causation here,
but it is very suspicious. There's also elevated depression rates
with this, because I mean, I wouldn't be bummed if
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I was hosting a parasite. The at risk populations include
pregnant women that acute infection can cause miscarriage or birth defects,
and immunal compromise folks, dormancysts they reactivate in least to
seizures or even brain swelling. The symptom checklist probably ignore it,
(08:19):
but you need to ask yourself. Do you feel tired
all the time, even after sleeping. Do your muscles ache
like you ran a marathon in your sleep? Or is
your focus slower than a dialed up internet connection? Maybe
your behavior it's suddenly risky, like impulse bies reckless driving.
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If you check two or more of these and you're
a fan of a rare steak or pork or cat cuddles,
it's time to spec toso. The detection of this sometimes
can be harder than finding waldo. The current test it's
a smoke without the fire. Blood tests can sh if
(09:00):
you've ever been infected, but they can't tell if toxo
is currently throwing that rave in your brains. The scientists
at uc Riverside discovered that infected neurons release fewer extracellular vesicles,
which are basically tiny cellular emails. If this can be
measured in a blood, we might soon have a real
(09:22):
time toxo detector and MRIs can show this, but they're
expensive last resorts. They could spot brain lesions in severe cases,
but they're not practical for routine testing, so the treatment options.
If you're healthy and asymptomatic, your immune system usually keeps
toxo in checked, but if you have acute infections and
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it's a little bit harder, doctors may prescribe something that
lasts for four to six weeks, but it causes some
side effects like a bone marrow suppression, so lab tests
are a must here, and pregnant women as often it's
Spearmyacin is often used in the first trimester to protect
the baby and immune compromised individuals. The higher doses that
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has longer treatments, but the antibiotics that use prolonged can
cause a host of other issues. The prevention here needs
to be cooking your meat at higher temperatures. One hundred
and forty five degrees for whole cuts, one hundred and
sixty degrees fahrenheit for ground meat. And you can also
freeze meat and it kills the kills a lot of
(10:30):
these cysts in forty eight hours. And again, wash those
vegetables because that's where they can host some of those
soil contanements. Cat hygiene. Scoop your litter daily. Also, if
you're pregnant, delegate literity duty to somebody else. All right,
we're coming up on a break, and when we come back,
we are going to tie in this conversation with a
(10:53):
special guest that's going to talk to us. So you're
listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Welcome que Cave,
Welcome back to the Doctor Bob Martin Show. I'm doctor
Adam Broffman, and we're going to tie in our first
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topic with how important our oral and nasal health is.
We're going to go right into an interview that I'm
going to share with you about on location with Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear, the makers of Clear nasal sprays
and Spread dental defense systems. Clear celebrated their twenty fifth
anniversary recently in American Fork Utah, and let's go ahead
(11:35):
right into the interview. Please join me in welcoming a visionary,
a leader, a pioneer of proactive health, in the driving
force behind a company that has revolutionized natural wellness. Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear, who has been a longtime supporter
of the show, and likewise we support Nate's vision of safe,
effective and natural products. Nate was born in Kansas City
(11:57):
and raised in the heart of Idaho's communities. Nate's journey
began in a household where healthcare wasn't just a profession,
it was a calling. His father, doctor Lawn, the town doctor,
instilled in him an early appreciation for healing and service,
values that would later define Nate's life's work. From the
rugged landscapes of Idaho to the bustling streets of Mexico City,
(12:20):
and finally to the mountains of Utah, where he graduated.
Nate's upbringing has a masterclass in adaptability, resilience, in the
power of community. But Nate's path to founding Clear was
in anything but lenear after a year of college, a
stint in active military service in a two year church mission,
he traded textbooks for diving gear training as a commercial
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diver in Seattle. For five years, he worked in the
oil fields of Louisiana, harnessing courage and precision in the
depths of the Gulf. Yet it was his return to
Utah in two thousand that marked a pivotal turn. Drawing
on his roots and health care and his passion for
empowering others, Nate founded with a bold mission to transform
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lives through proactive health. Over the past twenty five years,
he's built Clear into a global leader, pioneering xylotol based
innovations in sinus and oral care that blends nature's wisdom
with cutting edge science. From Spry oral products for dental
health to Clear nasal sprays that three defined respiratory wellness.
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Nate's work has touched millions, proving that health isn't just
about treating problems, it's about preventing them. As we celebrate
Great Clear's twenty fifth anniversary here in American Fork, Utah,
where the Doctor Bob Martin Show is on location, we're
honoring not just a company, but a legacy, a legacy
of innovation and an unwavering commitment to helping people breathe easier,
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live healthier, and take control of their wellbeing.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Please welcome Nate Jones.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Hello, nateho and after that, I think I should retire.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's a little bit long winded, right, but.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Oh, I don't know that I can do anything better.
It's just going to be down here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Great, it's already twenty five years and life's work is
you're doing a great job at it. So, Nate Clear
had a very intriguing start. I think it's one that
listeners would enjoy hearing about. Can you elaborate on your
father's influence on clear start?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And so, my dad, as you mentioned, is a physician,
and as you mentioned, even growing up he was more
forward thinking than most of your physicians. He thought that antibiotics,
again this is in the seventies and the eighties. He
thought that antibiotics were good, but that there was a
big downside to using antibiotics. And so growing up, I
don't recall ever having used antibiotics, and I know that
(14:43):
my dad tried not to, but that's the kind of
doctor he was. He was always trying to find something
to work with the body, not against the body, and
the way that he came up with using xylotol, a
sugar molecule simply a sugar molecule in a nasal spray.
Is he had a bunch of kids in these practiced
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that there were babies that were having recurrent ear infections,
lots of ear infections over and over, and the typical doctor,
your average doctor, would have just kept prescribing antibiotics, antibiotics, antibiotics.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
And my dad went online and he started searching around.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
He started quiring trying to figure out something other than
antibiotics to prevent ear infections from What kept coming up
and these queries was actually dental studies, studies where they
were looking at how xylotol prevents tooth decay. And you
know what they would say is, you know, the xylotol
people in the xylotol and the test group, not only
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were they not getting cavities, but also the data we've
left that they had about forty percent fewer ear infections,
fewer respiratory infections. And it wasn't until nineteen ninety eight
there was a paper that came out and I believe
it was the Journal Anamic pro Chemotherapy, where they showed
the method of action. What was going on is that
xylotol is actually binding up on bacteriod and on tissue
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and blocking the ability of the bacteria to adhere to
the tissue. And if you get the candid here to
the tissue, you're not gonna get sick because it just
it has to adhere, it has to enter the tissue,
and if you're blocking that.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Adhesion, obviously you're not gonna get sick.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
He read all that and he goes, well, I can't
give a two year old baby chewing them. But the
air infection started the nose. We bought some saline, opened
it up and port some xylotol in there, and started
sporting up their nose.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And the kids stopped getting sick.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
And it wasn't that they stopped having air infections, it
was that they stopped having allergy issues. That stopped having
you know, a host of a variety of issues. And
my dad started giving it to older kids and kids
that were coming in for allergy shots every couple of weeks.
Within you know, two or three weeks, they were out
playing basketball and doing gymnastics. They were getting rid of
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those allergies and these other respiratory issues.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Because if you have one respiratory issue, chances are you
have more than one.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
You have a number and the reason for that is
that you have in your upper airway. If you have
these chronic issues, you're probably going to have a biofilm.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
And the xylotol.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
One of the things we've known for a long long
time is that xylotol is very effective of breaking these
biofilms up.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
In the nineties, I'm assuming that was probably a word
that nobody had even heard of.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
How did he come up with xylotol?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
He was just querying on the internet, you know this
internet thing. Back then, PubMed came online, I think it
was ninety seven, ninety eight, and he was querying on
PubMed preventing ear infections, reducing ear infection, stuff like that,
and he didn't know as xylatol was.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
I mean before that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
The interesting thing is before pub men, the doctors, the physicians,
because they're all doctors. But the physicians would never cross
reference their studies to the dental studies because those are
dentists or physicians. You know, we don't want to mix
the two. And it wasn't until pet came online that
you could query preventing ear infections and it would querry
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through all of the dental research days, and that's really
how he came up with them.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, great, great, clear.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It began with a focus on Xylotol's untapped potential and
oral and nasal health. And as you're celebrating twenty five years,
how has the company's original mission evolved in what pivotal
moments our decision shaped its growth into a natural leader
in natural wellness?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Well, a lot of those are accidental, I should say,
I mean they're not that we're visionary. So we started
the company with the nasal spray, and within a couple
of years we had customers that were asking us and saying, Hey,
we're coming to you to buy our Xylotel nasal spray,
why don't you also carry the xylotal gum and some toothpaste.
(18:54):
And so we started learning about all the dental benefits.
We started carrying the gum, we started making toothpaste, as
we started making mouth wash.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
We learned a.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Lot of other things as time went on, and about
fifteen years ago, I want to say close to about
fifteen years ago, we actually came out with a dental probiotic,
which didn't sell very well. I think it was well
ahead of its time. I think that fifteen years ago,
people were barely even starting to understand what a gut
probiotic is. They much you know, it's a much better
(19:25):
understood concept today, and so we're actually coming back out
with that. We should have that out on the market
in the next month or two. I'm excited for that
to come back out. It's it's actually a great product.
It's a little stick pack and so after you brush
your teeth at night, you can and it's sugar, it's
blueberry flavored, it's got vitamin D, it's got silid tall,
(19:46):
it's got calsum, it's got everything you need for your
mouth to be healthy overnight.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well you heard it here now, I think that's a
great idea of the probiotics have definitely came a long
way over the last last decade or so, so I
think I think just bring a little bit more attention
to that, it's going to be going to be a
great thing.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Great thing for the market.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And Nate in a market that's been saturated with synthetic products,
clear pioneered natural alternatives, what were the biggest hurdles in
educating consumers and competing against these big, established corporate brands.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I think the biggest impediment or the biggest hurdles are
actually the government. And what I mean by that is
we sell hygiene products, and you know, a lot of
people think that we can go out and make the
same claims that supplement companies can make, and that it's
as easy as making a structure functioning claim. But that
(20:39):
isn't the case because we're not supplements. We're hygiene products.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, We're coming up on a break with but
we're gonna get right back into our interview with Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear. You are listening to the Doctor
Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Are you waiting on a line next, Jake? Are you
waiting for the perfect nights? Are you waiting to the
time is night by? You want to learn to deal with?
Don't you want to take the wheel and stand? Don't
you beating now the man?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
What are you? Welcome back everyone, We hope you enjoyed
that break. You are listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
I'm doctor Adam Brockman, your co pilot on your health journey.
We're gonna get right back to our interview with Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You know when the FDA really got founded, you know,
a century ago almost I guess the soap company lobby.
The soap companies lobbied very heavily for them not to
be considered a drug, because the definition of a drug
is is anything that I'm trying that kills an invading organism,
(22:03):
anything that changes the structure function of the human body,
or anything that people perceive as a drug. Those are
the three criteria for the drugs, and the soap industry
lobbied really heavily for that not to be for them
not to be included. But what happened there is the
soap companies can't go out and say wash your hands
(22:24):
to stop the spread of disease, which is incredibly obtuse.
The CDC and public health agencies picked that up and
they went out and talked to people. We all know
about washing our hands. And it's not from the soap companies.
It's because public health agencies were out there doing it.
They were out there talking about it. When we came
(22:46):
out with the idea of nasal hygiene, that was kind
of a new concept.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Before we came along.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
The only thing that people did was they'd use a
saline spray every now and then, and even even before
two thousand, it wasn't common for people to use saline sprays.
Yeah you had, you had a couple of them out
there that were that were just tiny little companies, but
not like it is today. And you know, using a
(23:11):
saline spray is kind of like just washing your.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Hands with water. We add to that weed when you
put xylotol into it. Again, what the xylotol does.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It works kind of like the soap and it ur
factor or this or facton and the soap it blocks bacteria,
it blocks adhesion. It makes it easier for your body
to just wash them away, the same concept as what
soap does.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
But where I'm going with this. That was a long answer.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
But we can't actually say what our products do, okay,
and so how it So it's becomes very difficult because
of government regulations for us to actually go out and say,
wash your nose and you're not going to get sick
that much. You know, if you wash all the bacteria
out of your nose, you know you're not going.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
To get sick that much.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I mean during COVID, uh, you know, we really pushed
and we finally got some studies done and they showed
that if you used axyloton nasal spray or a nasal
spray was something else like Iota kara genin that blocked
the stars COVID two virus from bedhering to the tissue,
you reduced your instance of the illness by almost eighty percent.
And that's pretty typical what you're going to see across
(24:18):
the board. We had a study that was finally finished
with where they were looking at ear infections and kids
where they used our xylotone nasal spray and just by
using it once in the morning once at night, they
reduced their ear infections by about seventy five percent.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
And we did a study on ear.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Infections back in the two thousand what do you call
them the odds in like two thousand and seven, And
when we actually sent that data to get published in
one of the pediatric journals, the editor who was in
charge of reviewing the studies, he just read the data
and he goes, I'm not even sending this out to review.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
This is stupid, This is dumb.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
No, you don't get these reductions in respiratory illnesses by
springing sugar water up your nose. Wouldn't even send it
out for a peer of you just couboshed it right there.
It wasn't a drug, No way was it going to
be able to be published in their journal.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And so Queer's product line from Spry oral care to
the clear nasal sprays is known for that innovation you've
just been talking about. How do you balance that scientific
rigor that again studies and everything else trying to get
some of these things published with the consumer needs when
developing these new products again like you just talked about
(25:31):
with the probiotic as well.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Well, what we do is we actually look at the
data that's being out that's being put out there with
regards to the research in xylatol. In fact I mentioned earlier,
I have to leave here. I'm flying over to Barcelona,
Spain this afternoon because this week there is a conference
in Spain the International Association of Dental Researchers, and there's
(25:58):
about eight different research centers where they're actually looking at
xylotol and they're doing xylotol research, and so we're gaining
all of them together. We're taking them all to dinner
so they can sit and discuss and collaborate and we
look and discuss what the future of xylotol. Is there's
a lot of really promising research that's being done right now,
(26:18):
some of it here in the US at Northwestern, some
of it being done in other countries with xylotol and
cancer and it's and it's phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Some of those studies have already come out.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
There were some studies that came out with regards to xylotol,
erythrotol and and autism. You know, just getting rid of it,
and a lot of large part of it is replacing
the sugar, the six carbon sugars because you know, I
think everybody agrees by now that that's kind of a
toxic in the end, and especially in the levels that
(26:50):
most of us eat it, that's a toxic substance.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Absolutely, Well, let's switch gears and talk about the twenty
fifth anniversary. Now Clear is headquartered right here in American Fork, Utah.
How has the local community influenced your company's values in
What initiatives are you most proud of in terms of
giving back and or advancing natural health advocacy.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Well, I would like to say that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
We have donated a lot of product to initiatives in
our state, but we happened We've offered many, many times,
and the state has never actually accepted it. We've offered
to donate a lot of gum to start siloitol gum
chewing programs in schools.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
The state said no. During COVID, we.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Offered to donate I can't remember if it was ten
thousand or one hundred thousand, but a ridiculous amount of
clear and our state epidemiologist when we offered, she simply said, well,
did the FDA approve it for treating COVID? And I
said no, it's a nasal spray that just washes it
(27:58):
out of your nose. And she says, well, then I
kind of taken. And so we've offered many times, but
our public health agencies have flat out refused anything.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
So I don't know if that's a legacy, but we're.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Working on Yeah, yeah, hey, hey, it's all about education.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, well, I'll say I'll say that my family we
absolutely love all the products, and that's one of the
first things we actually do is somebody's got a sniffle,
you know, you use some clear nasal spray. So I think, again,
it's a it's an education process, and that's what you know,
that's what we like to do on the on the
show here, we definitely definitely love the Clear products and Nate,
(28:40):
as you're looking ahead, what emerging trends in natural health
excites you the most and how will Clear inspribe products
adapt to meet these future demands while staying true to
core mission and values over the next twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
And I think that what I'm really excited about is
the possibility that are that are coming out of Washington,
d C. With Robert Kennedy with the MOHA movement. The
interesting thing is is my dad, who you should talk
to later. He actually wrote a book that came out
over a year ago now called Make America, Making America,
(29:19):
So you know, he's kind of the original MAHA. But
he came out with the book, you know, over a
year ago, and you know, the whole idea of what
they're doing in Washington, d C. And hopefully breaking the
stranglehold that the pharmaceutical industry has on health. I think
(29:43):
that's that's as important as anything else in our country
right now.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
All right, it's time for a quick break, but don't
go anywhere. You are listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
So your saw your dad.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Hamza.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I'm a bush of this number, Simon. They have one
never single minds up.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Only.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I want to stop to welcome back. You are listening
to the Doctor Bob Bartin Show. I'm your co host,
doctor Adam Brockman, and we're excited to continue our journey
towards better health with you. We're gonna get right back
to our interview with Nate Jones, the CEO of Clear.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Even if you just go do a Google's I think
it was on Google. It might have been on one
of the AI platforms. But if you just do a
search and query, how much of the reduction in in
in illnesses and epidemics and pandemics over the last hundred
years was attributable to medicine, to the pharmaceutical industry, and
(31:09):
how much of it was could be contributed to improvements
in hygiene and sanitation. It was ninety three percent high
gene and sanitation, seven percent attributed to antibiotics and all
the other medical interventions combined. Okay, but yet our government
and our public health agencies are so hyper focused on
the pharmaceuticals. And I'm hoping that the MAHA movement will
(31:32):
actually go back to what really caused these improvements, which
was really improvements in hygiene, improvements in sanitation, getting water
piped to our house. Understanding, we wash our hands every day,
we take a shower, we wash our clothes, we wash
our bedding, you know, we brush our teeth. And the
other place where we get sick all the time is
(31:53):
our nose. So the idea that we should be washing
our nose every morning and washing it every night before
we go to bed be a big stretch and it's
something that I'm really.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Hoping that the Mahu movement can get behind.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, I agree with that, and I think the big
thing is is following the money trail there and how
and hopefully with this new UH new administration in with
with Robert F. Kennedy Junior, that we'll see some of
that where it actually breaks that money trail. We can
get back to some of these these type of things.
I think that's the which again kind of leads me
into my next question here about the UH. What hurdles
(32:28):
have the Federal Trade Commission had on getting the word
out about the benefits of XILOTL and UH and the
studies that you've you've done and UH and the roadblock there.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Is well, the FTC.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
The only time they ever became a real problem when
a roadblock was during COVID. So when I started clearing
back in two thousand, you know, I didn't know what
I was doing. It was a diver And I took
the study that my dad had done, which was just
a clinical study in these practice He you know, said, hey,
you know, I took all these kids and I put
them on this naval spray and they stopped getting sick.
(33:03):
And he took their medical records going back I think
it was eighteen months, and then going forward eighteen months
and just wrote a paper on the comparison between that
and he had shown like a ninety two percent reduction
in respiratory infections, and I think it was like the
vast majority of the eight percent that were left was
actually one kid who refused the lady's parents.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Spray as knows, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
So it was phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
It was a phenomenal, you know, case study.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
And when I first started, you know, running ads in
some of these magazines, you know, I didn't know what
I was doing. I put some of the results from
that study in these magazines and the FTC sent me
a paper letter. Again, this is two thousand, they sent
me a paper letter and said, hey, you need to
call this and so I called him and I spent
half an hour forty five minutes on the phone. And
what they they outlined is they said, hey, you have
(33:51):
to have some data, some studies showing what your product
is is creating muse results. And I said, well, we
have the studies showing that it blocked the ability of bacteria,
strip noumal ah flu and cat to adhere to tissue.
They said, then you can go ahead and say that
that's been published in the peer review literature. You know,
case studies aren't peer reviewed, which is what their argument was.
(34:13):
And so we went and we put it on our box.
You know, blocks bacterial adhesion, reduces bacterial adhesion, and we
did that for while.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
We still do it today.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
So we've been doing that for twenty five years. But
during COVID in twenty twenty, there was a study that
came out of the University of Tennessee where they showed
that Xylotal blocked stars.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
COVID two from adhering to the tissue.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
So we started talking about that, and there was other
studies that came out of Vanderbilt where they showed they're
just using salt water to flesh out the nose reduced
I mean, patients that had COVID one hundred percent of
them were all better under a week if they just
used salt water. And we were trying to share that,
I mean, not even our product we're tracking, you know,
we're trying to share that washing your nose with even
(35:00):
saltwater would have reduced that. And the FTC actually sent
us a warning letter. They didn't call us, they didn't
talk to us ahead of time, which is what you're
supposed to do. They just sent us a warning letter
and said, hey, all these people are dying. You need
to shut up and stop talking about these studies where
they're not dying and anything that isn't you know, approved
(35:22):
by the government. And of course I said, well we
have the studies. The studies are right here showing and
backing up everything we said. And they said, well, we
don't like those studies, and you know, they said shut up,
and I said no, and we kept discussing these and
as more data came out, we continued to share that
data and the FTC came back and they argued and said, well,
(35:44):
that study that was done at the University of Tennessee.
That wasn't you know, that wasn't done on human airway tissue. Well,
it was done on very kidney monkey tissue, which is
the pharmaceutical standard. That's what is the standard for the
pharmaceutical industry. And you would think that we'll was a
standard for the pharmaceutical industry would be acceptable to the FTC.
I mean, it's acceptable to the FDA the FTC. It
(36:07):
obviously isn't. And they said, we got to go do
it on human airway tissue. So we went and did
an on human airway tissue. And when we did it
on the human airway tissue, we did it looking at
stars COVID two, We did it looking at RSV, We
did it looking at H one N one H five
in one, which is bird flu. And we did it
with a variety of different sugar molecules, not just xylotol.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
User with tall use sorbitall. We use a couple of
these other sugars.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
And what we found was interesting, really interesting, was that
different sugar molecules actually affected different viruses differently in how
they could and how they blocked the tesion. We went
to share that study with the FTC, and this is
where I realized that the FTC didn't care about the science.
They didn't care about anything except shutting up any voice
(36:51):
that the went against what they wanted.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
All right, it's time to take another quick break. You
are listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Let's just
see what you creeping the phone?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Just dtop all those things I.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Should do, but you dees is at noyers been so sky.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Just just destop. Oh something magical.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
It's been here. It's in my Burtist question. Don't eat
no reasons, don't be controlled?
Speaker 5 (37:37):
He control?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
That's so high seem all right, Welcome back to the
Doctor Bob Martin Show, where we've been interviewing Nate Jones,
the CEO of Clear. We're gonna get back to the
final stretch of that interview now.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
We actually pointed out and said it shows right here
that it blocks RSD, and it shows right here that
it blocks OARS, COVID two and right here.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
And they said, well, you can say it about RSV,
you can say it about H one N one, you
can say it about H five in one. You can't
say it about COVID.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
And the fact that that they're about service COVID too,
and the fact that you have an agency saying okay,
you have a study, and three of these things are
saying you can talk about, but the fourth one you can.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
It's the same study.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
It's not about the science, it's about government censorship, and
it's about government control. I stood up, and there coming
after me, trying to shut me down.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
And it seemed to be the case with talking about
COVID across the board of anybody that had any opinions
that differed from what they wanted to put out there,
it was an automatic stop with that. Yeah, and well, Nate,
I know you've got a busy day today, so I
want to thank you for taking the time to be
with us on the Doctor Bob Martin Show. And we're
(38:51):
here to celebrate Clears twenty fifth anniversary. Congratulations for that.
Today we dodge brain pairs sites and listen to Clear
CEO Nate Jones drop the kind of wisdom that makes
your neurons do backflips. He reminded us, innovation isn't invention,
it's empathy meeting engineering. I invite you to go to
(39:14):
Clear dot com that's spelled x l ear dot com
to find the Clear nasal sprays in the spray dental
defense systems made with Zilettal. Again, I want to remind
you if you have health related questions, we've got answers
for you. Call our toll free hotline at eight hundred
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(39:37):
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(39:57):
and every one to you for tuning in and being
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Together we can empower ourselves to be our own best
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(40:18):
doctor Adam Brockman, we're here to help you. Until next time.
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