Chronic back pain doesn’t have to be a life sentence. Forget pills, surgeries, and temporary fixes—today, we’re exploring a groundbreaking approach that’s flipping the script on pain management. Cognitive Functional Therapy (CFT) isn’t just about treating your back; it’s about retraining your brain to silence the pain alarm for good. Backed by jaw-dropping research, CFT delivers lasting relief—even years later. Plus, discover how combining it with chiropractic care, regenerative medicine, and other therapies creates an unstoppable pain-fighting team.
Special Guest: Grant Townsend, CEO of NuvoCell Biologics
Special Guest: Grant Townsend, CEO of NuvoCell Biologics
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I will be getting into a caller marathon with your questions. Now,
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let's start off by talking about pain, specifically the kind
that makes you It lingers, it gnaws at you, and
makes you reach for that bottle of pills. But what
if I told you the real breakthrough in pain relief
isn't found a prescription pad or in a surgeon's scalpel.
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What if the key to unlocking lasting relief has been
hiding in your own mind this entire time. Today we're
looking at cognitive functional therapy known as CFT. It's an
approach that's been around for a while, but it's flipping
the script on chronic pain. Forget masking symptoms with pills
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and that comes with that laundry list of side effects.
Cognitive functional therapy rewires your brain in the relationship with pain,
and it teaches you to stop sounding those false alarms.
In the science that backs it up, patients who have
tried everything, surgeries, injections, endless, physical therapy, they're now finally
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finding freedom from pain years later. But that's not all.
Later in the show, we'll be joined by a very
special guest who is here to talk about pain perception
and also the benefits of regenda medicine. Trust me, you'll
want to stick around for that. And Hey, if you're
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I'm still in pain. We want to hear from you.
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doctor Bob dot com. All right, listeners, we've got a
powerhouse hour ahead, so let's go ahead and dive in
and just maybe maybe your pain free future starts now.
So what I want to discuss is mind over matter
in that scientific cure for chronic back pain. Today, let's
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tackle one of the most pervasive health issues affecting adults worldwide,
and that's chronic back pain. But we're not just talking
about temporary fixes or masking those symptoms with painkillers. Now
today we're going to dive into a revolutionary approach that's
changing lives. It's cognitive functional therapy or CFT, and let's
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explore how it compares to other effective treatments like chiropractic
care in regenda medicine. So, folks, in just a few
short minutes, you'll understand why CFT, Cognitive functional therapy is
being hailed as a high value, low risk intervention with
side effects or no effects, and it lasts for years.
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So sit back comfortably, I hope, and let's get into it.
As far as back pain. Back pain is the leading
cause of disability globally and affects nearly sixty five million Americans,
and nearly twenty million of those have been diagnosed as
chronic back pain. And for decades, the standard treatment has
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been a combination of painkillers, physical therapy, and in severe cases, surgery.
But there's a problem with this. These approaches only provide
temporary relief. A recent study that was published in the
Lancet Rheumatology magazine found that conventional treatments offer only small
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to moderate benefits. At best, painkillers they mass the symptoms,
but they don't address the root cause. In surgery, it's
invasive and risky with no guarantee of long term success,
and physical therapy, while helpful for many, it often fails
to address that psychological component of chronic pain. This is
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where cognitive functional therapy CFT comes in. Unlike traditional methods,
CFT doesn't just treat the body, it rewires the brain,
and the results I think they're nothing short of remarkable.
CFT is a type of psychotherapy that's specifically designed for
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chronic pain. It's based on the idea that pain isn't
just about physical sensation. It's this complex interplay of thoughts, emotions,
and behaviors. And here's how it works, you start to
understand pain. CFT teaches patients that pain doesn't always equal harm.
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For example, a twinge in your back and might feel alarming,
but it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to have
further injury. CFT also breaks that fear avoidance cycle, as
many people with chronic pain they avoid movement out of fear,
which then it leads to stiffness and worsening. Symptoms, but
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CFT helps patients relearn safe movements and CFT also creates
what known as kind of a behavioral change. Patients are
guided to adopt healthier habits like proper posture in stress management,
and this is to to reduce the pain triggers. There's
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Australian University Marquerrie University study that found that patients who
received CFT kindative functional therapy had seven sessions over twelve
weeks and they had a booster session at twenty six
weeks and the results they had a significant reduction in
pain and disability that lasted up to three years. And
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this is why this matters because CFT addresses the root
of chronic pain, the brain's overactive alarm system. It's not
just about fixing the back, it's about retraining the mind. Now,
CFT it's not just only effective for back pain. Let's
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compare to other proven methods and see how they can
work together. Like chiropractic care, adjustments can realign the spine
and it releaves pressure on the nerves and it helps
to improve the mobility. If you combine chiropractic care to
address structural issues in CFT to tackle that psychological barrier.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You have a.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Powerhouse, a powerhouse to recovery. Another option is Regenda medicine,
stem cell therapy and PRP injections that promote tissue healing.
And then when you combine that with CFT, patients not
only heal physically, but also learn to move without fear
and it prevents that re injury. And we'll get more
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about this in Reginda Medicine with a special guest that's
coming up after the break. And also I do want
to mention physical therapy here. It strengthens the muscles and
that is crucial. But without addressing that fear of movement
that's a key focus of the CFT, progress can stall.
So the takeaway is CFT isn't a replacement for these therapies.
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It's a compliment if you think of it as a
glue that holds everything together. I want to give you
example of a patient that I treated. Her name is
Sarah and she was forty five years old. She suffered
from chronic back pain for about ten years, and after
kinditive functional therapy she learned to distinguish between hurt and
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harm and she gradually returned to hiking and that was
a passion that she had given up. What we did
is we combine CFT with Regenda medicine treatment. Again, the
combination worked, wonders, I think we have time. I'll give
you an other example of another patient, James, who is
fifty two. We combine CFT with chiropractic care and he says,
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for the first time in years, I feel in control
of my pain. That's powerful. Again, that mind component there
in these series, the stories I just gave you, they're
not outliers. They're evidence of what should be a shift
in that pain management. So again, we're coming up on
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a break, and if you're tired of temporary fixes, the drugs,
the surgery, it's time to think differently. You're back or
your other joints in your brain may just reward you
with a hype or more playing time with the grandkids
and absence of pain. So again, we're coming up on
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a break and we'll get with our special guest right
after that. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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Speaker 2 (11:13):
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Let's get right back into it. Before the break, we
were talking about why your brain and not your spine
is the real culprit behind chronic back pain. And I
want to be brutally honest. The way conventional medicine treats
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back pain is archaic. We've been conditioned to think of
spine like faulty car pot parts, you know, popping a pill,
cutting a piece out, or worst case, swap out the
disc like it's a flat tire. But here's the uncomfortable truth.
Chronic back pain isn't just a structural problem. It's a
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brain hijack. Until we address the neurological panic button that's
stuck on fire, no mound of pills is going to
fix it. The Australian CFT Cognitive Functional Therapy study we
were talking about, it's a.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Wake up call.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
For years, patients have been gas lit into believing their
pain is all in their head. Well, it turns out
that's partially right, but not in the way dismissive doctors
implied pain is manufactured by the brain, but that doesn't
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make it any less real. If you can imagine, it's
like a hypervigilance security system that's blaring alarms when that
squirrel runs.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Through your yard.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
CFT cognitive functional therapy doesn't silence the alarm. It reprograms
the system to stop overreacting. Now here's where modern medicine
gets it backwards. We're obsessed with passive treatments, you know, pills,
pain blocks, or even surgery that outsources the healing to
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external fixes. CFT flips that script. It's the ultimate empowerment tool.
You become the treatment by rewiring thought patterns like all
pain equals danger. In dismantling fear avoidance behaviors, patients reclaim
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their independence and control over pain. I think that's revolutionary,
but let's not throw out what does work on that.
Muscular skeletal pain, chiropractic care, physical therapy, in regenda medicine,
they all play critical roles, and even consider combining these
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with CFT cognitive functional therapy. Think of it like this,
chiropractors align the hardware CFT updates the software in regenaive therapies,
they're the system reboot together. They're unstoppable. The bottom line,
if you've tried everything for back pain and you still suffer,
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the missing piece isn't in your spine, it's your mindset.
Pain is a conversation between your body and your brain.
It's time we started listening in talking back. Speaking of
trying something new for your pain. I want to introduce
you to our next special guest that is here to
talk about a very promising treatment for your pain. More,
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I want you to welcome a man who knows what
it means to fight for a comeback, both on the
court and in the lab. Grant Townsend was a Division
I basketball player. After basketball, he endured multiple surgeries, endless
rehab in the crushing reality that his body still hurt.
But where most would surrender, this former forward turned his
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pain into purpose. Years of degenerative dis disease in neuropathy
led him to a revelation that stem cell therapy it
didn't just ease his pain, it rewrote his future. Combining
his engineering background with first hand experience as a patient,
Grant founded nuvasel to bring regenda medicine to the masses,
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and that was without the high price tag or jumping
through insurance hoops. It was just cutting edge science with
accessible solutions that actually worked. Today, he's going to share
how stem cell saved his body, the science behind nuva cell,
and how you can harness your bodies innate ability to
heal without breaking the bank. All right, Grant, welcome to
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the Doctor Bob Martin Show. You doing all right today?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Hey, doctor Brockman, I'm doing very well. Thank you for
having me on the show. And was was that previous
topic there you were you were talking about on the
cognitive piece was very interesting and something I'd definitely resonate.
Was happy to be here and talk about nuvasille with
the community.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Uh huh, uh huh. And Grant and through as a
as a former athlete, did you ever do anything like
cognitive functional therapy or just kind of that psychological component
sometimes you have to do as an athlete.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Oh, you know, I think we we've talked about this before, Rate,
But when I injured my back when I was seventeen
years old, originally you know, very young for first of
your back injury, like I had and it was. It
was pretty debilitating. And I did everything. I had surgery
when I was nineteen. I did every single modality out there,
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from physical rehab, the chiropractic to you know, shockwave therapy, acupuncturist, massage.
I mean, you named it right. I did every single
thing I I could try to to heal from my
from my back, even as a last resort going through surgery.
And even you know that surgery and the quarter zone
shots and all of that, they all they all failed me.
It wasn't really until I started dialing in on the
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cognitive piece that I actually began to see results. And
for me personally, it was about the you know, the
the alignment of my of my body right and uh,
you know, how my posture was, how I walked, how
I did certain movements, There was correction I need to
do that all you know, stem from uh uh, you know,
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focusing on it, strengthening abs, things like like that. That
really made a game or a game changer my realabilitation.
And then, you know, like we've talked about before, just
because of all the you know, the surgery, the repetition,
the stress on it, I have had, you know, pretty
pretty severe degeneration in my UH in my lower lumbar,
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So you know, combining that you know, cognitive perspective and
then you know, using Reginda medicine s actually restored the
disc I've felt better than I did, you know, when
I was seventeen years old.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And that and that's what we want to get a
lot of listeners to understand that. Sometimes it's that combination
of therapy and in nuvicel being such a groundbreaking treatment
option that is accessible to everybody. I want to talk
about that for me a little bit more. Can Can
you explain how applying stem cells topically differs from traditional injections,
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including not only steroid injections, but Reginda medicine injections, and
why this delivery method, the topical could be a game
changer for for most patients or or any of our listeners.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. So. So the main you know, mechanism
of action and how we've been able to develop our
product really revolves around the current developments and exosomes. So
for anyone who's not, you know, familiar with exosomes, there's
a lot of excitement in and around the industry, but
an exosome is a is a type of extracellz or
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a vesicle that is secreted by mesol commal stem cells.
So when they take a step back from that, right,
the regenerative medicine industry as a whole has been really
focused on you know, live mesol commal stem cells and
injecting those stem cells into your body to see, you know,
for those cells to differentiate into to damage tissue, to
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to repair certain areas. And the big benefit of that,
right is it's it's natural healing, natural regeneration. You're not
you're not masking the pain or masking the cause or
masking the inflammation. You're actually fixing the root cause. Right. So,
you know, going from there, when we when we talk
about uh exizomes and and what those are doing, there's
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a there's a you know, plus there of different topics
I can I can talk about here, but the you know,
the main thing being is that they are a self
free you know, messager compared to a to a live cell.
And there's a few different points behind there and how
you know, they're easier to harvest and distribute, they're safer.
But the research on the market now is showing that
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this is where the the you know, regeneral properties are
coming from uhuh.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And so we're talking with Grant Townsend, the CEO of
nubas Cell, and he's discussing exosomes and how stem cell
therapy and regenda medicine can can help regenerate those joints
and make you feel better. You're listening to the Doctor
Bob Martin Show. We'll be back with Grant in just
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and empowering each other, all right, Grant, So we were
talking about exosomes, and I want you to give just
a quick recap of what a exosome is and why
that's so powerful for the body.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, so, you know, going back to what we were
talking about before the breakthre so, so the exozome is
really what's enabled this call the new age of Virginita,
the medicine. And to give a little bit more a
detail about that, the you know exozoone versus the live
stem cell itself. Think about exozome as a delivery truck, right,
or maybe not just any order ordinary delivery truck, really
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a specialized delivery machine that has a unique ability to
navigate through the body, crossing biological barriers and delivering important
messages the cells by utilizing call it a natural you know,
state of the art homing sequence right to identify and
find cells that are that are in need to deliver
its package. And then there is the package that the
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XO zone has, right, the it's carrying a complex and
potent combination of hundreds of different types of growth factors
and cietykins that all have individual roles and supporting regeneration
and inflammation, modulation and muscles, cartilage, tendons, ligaments, bones, nerves, blood, vessel, skin,
you name it, right, So that's really you know, that's
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the mechanism of the exosome. And what that what that
really dials down to is it's it's cell to cell
signaling versus cell differentiation. Right, So, cell to cell signaling,
also known as the para crone effect, is basically what
the exozoone is doing, right. It's it's using its homing beacon,
it's it's delivering it's it's message navigating through the body,
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versus cell differentiation, which is what traditional stem cell technology
is based off of, where you know, you inject the
live stem cell and a differentiation into into tissues. So
that's the you know, the real, the real differentiator, and
what a lot of the research is is showing is
that the majority of the benefit from stem cells maybe
from what the stem cell secretes once it's in the
body and not necessarily the stem cell differentiating into into
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different cells. That's you know, that's what's been really exciting
in the industry lately. And you know a few another
reasons that XO zones are gaining so much traction is, uh,
you know, one, there's there's a couple of different beliefs
on you know, when you inject the live stem cell,
those tem cells are probably dying before injection. And what's
the likelihood of a live cell being able to you know,
differentiate into a you know one and a billion specific
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you know genome, right, some people believe that to be impossible.
But you know the other reason is is because exozoon
and their cell free nature that they're not a live
step stem cell. One, their safety profiles are much better. Uh,
they have you know, less likelihood of immune rejection and
lower chances of tumor formation because of that, you know,
lack of DNA and ability to replicate or mutate. But
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they're also much more cost effective to one, you know,
harvest and distribute, but also transport. Right. They could be
stabilized with things like lipid nanoparticles at you know, shelf temperatures,
right and and you know, using different delivery methods that
administered topically.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, we're talking with Grant Grant Townsend the CEO of
Nuva Cell. He has created a topical stem cell formula
that's groundbreaking, and I've been using Regenda medicine in my
practices for about ten years now, mainly buy the mode
of injections because that was what was around doing, either
stem cell injections or platelet rich plasma injections or even prolotherapy,
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all of which are very effective. And usually how I
describe it to the patients is once that stem cell
or even even the the PRP which I like to
call many stem cells, gets in the body, they're they're
able to uh to repair and regenerate those tissues around
them by morphine into into whatever cell that may be
that is needed. And that's what's so fascinated about this.
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This is something that's very accessible and if you're interested
in finding out more about Nuva Cell, you can visit
their website at Nuva Cell by a lots dot com.
That's nuvasel Biologics dot com. I'll spell this out for you.
It's in you v O C E L L B
I O L O G I c S dot com.
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You can also go to doctor Bob dot com and
see and fill out a form and in Grant and
his team will put you with a provider to get
it shipped directly to your door. And if you're a
provider that's interested in, uh in finding out more about
nuvasel and maybe offering it to your patients, you can
also go to nuvasel Biologics dot com or doctor Bob
(26:34):
dot com and find more information there. All right, And
also I do want to mention this too, Grant has
been kind enough to offer doctor Bob Martin show listeners
a discount of twenty percent off of your first order. Again,
you can go to doctor Bob dot com and fill
out a quick form to be connected with one of
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Grant's providers at Nuvasel network, or you can go to
nuvasel Biologics dot com. Grant is that uh where where
can else can listeners find nu visel? Uh? It's in
Also got your local chiropractor, acupuncturist, integrative health professional, Yeah,
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any any other?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So Yeah, there's a you know the easiest way to
do it is there's a find your Provider tool on
our website. You can go in there, type in your
address and all the local providers will will pop up
in your area. You named it, right, chiropractors, acupuncture and
functional medicine, pain clinics, and if there's not a provider
in your your area, there there'll be a form where
you can give us your info and and we'll go
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uh and uh and find one uh for you. And
then like you mentioned, you know, through the through the
Doctor Bob Show, uh, we can we can ship a
you know, ship kits directly to your door. And there's
actually the our normal retail price is one thousand and
fifty dollars per kit, but through the Doctor Bob Show,
we're doing uh uh two hundred and fifty disc dollars
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discount on one kit, so that's one thousand dollars a kit.
And then a lot of times when people call they
want to order multiple or you know, they have a
pretty severe injury where they they know it's going to
take multiple kits, or they want to you know, get
a couple for their friends and family. So we were
offering some pretty good discounts on the two and and
and three kid options as well. So you can buy
two kits for for nine hundred dollars a kit, or
three kits for for eight hundred dollars a kit, So
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pretty pretty significant discounts there for the doctor Bob community and.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
In grant that since this is such a new new formula,
grand breaking formula, can you also explain that you are
looking to add providers to your to your network as well.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Please Yep, yep, definitely. That's uh yeah, that's a it's
a good point. Right. So we're we're a newer company.
We're trying to grow and expand our our network. So
you know, if you're a provider interested in this type
of technology, uh, maybe you have experience with the agenda
and medicine stem cell or uh and you want to
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add you know, a take home option or or an
add on to your to your platform, or you're not
experience in that and you want to add regut of
medicine to your practice. You can go to our website.
There'll be a tab at the top there for uh,
you know, I'm a provider, and then you will uh
submit a provider application and then someone from our team
will will you know, get in touch with you and
uh you know, review everything to to approve your your
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account and uh, you know, we've got some some introductory
offers there for for providers who are interesting and enjoying
a network as well.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
All right, Grant, thank you for that. And again I
do want to remind you if you do want to
go to doctor Bob dot com. Our telehealth services let
you connect with a healthcare professional fast right from your couch,
no waiting room required, and you might be able to
get Nuba self or that you can.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We're going to be back with Grant right after the break.
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We're talking with Grant Townsend, the CEO of Nuvasel, a
revolutionary topical stem cell formula, and for for years now,
accessibility has been a major hurdle in regenda medicine. How
does NUVASL plan to make this technology affordable and available
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compared to those costly clinical based THEM cell treatments and
other steroid injections and surgery.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, so when you you know, first, when you look
at the current Regena medicine market, right, the leading modality
on the field is UH is them cell injections and
typically those are UH metal comosts them sell from donated
in bilical court tissues kind of the leading modality because
of its uh it's you know, healing potential. Right, So
when you look at that one, obviously you know, getting
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UH donated local court tissue, there there's a lot of processes, screening,
uh safety tests that go through that. But then two,
when you know doctors are having to do injections in
their office, there there's a lot of extra overhead and
costs and scheduling that that goes into that. So, you know,
by taking nuvus cell, which is it's just using the
same you know, mess some commo stem cell technology, but
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now in a in a easily applied even at home
topical cream, you're you're eliminating all the you know, uh
procedural time needed in the office, the you know, the overhead,
the the equipment needed to do those types of injections.
That's what makes this much more uh much more affordable
for for the patient, right, and not just affordable, but
(32:24):
you know, talk about excessive, uh accessible, safer and without
downtime to non invasive. Right. So that's been that's the
name of the game. Is it's a you know, it's
a it's a topic grew and the patients taken home
with him. You apply it morning and night. You're not
having to do any invasive procedures. There's no downtime. You
have less risk with that as well. So it's a
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you know, it's a we call it a pretty big
week forward in the region of the medicine space. And
and and it's an exciting time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And a lot of times the stem cell treatments they
may be three thousand and five thousand, ten, one thousand
or more. And this is right around that twelve hundred
and fifty dollars range. And Grant's been kind enough to
give a twenty percent discount to doctor Bob Martin show listeners.
And Grant, I want to ask a couple more questions here.
(33:16):
We often hear skepticism around stem cell therapies. Can you
give me some examples of peer reviewed evidence that exists
to support the efficiency of topical stem cells for conditions
like osteoarthritis or maybe even degenerative joint pain.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, yeah, No, there's a ton of clinical evidence coming
out right now about the stem cell industry in general.
So there's you know, just over three thousand clinical trials
registered with the World Health Organization over the last decade
on stem cell stem cell research. You know, publications around
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stem cell have increased about forty x in that last
decade as well. And you know, some of the recent
UH studies are showing that stem cell you know, stem
cell treatment application can increase lifespan by approximately forty percent
in some certain animal model testing going on right now.
You know from that there's a there's a eighty person
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case pilot study out there using transnormal stem cell technology
where patients sell fifty one percent decrease and pain with
just one treatment. And you know, quite a bit as
I mentioned, you know, different publications per reviewed and and
and whatnot around the space. There's there's a ton of
research you know, building and coming out on a daily
basis at this point.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
M and Grant of course, with this leads into safety
and safety is paramount. What rigorous testing has nuva cel
undergone to to make this safe and effective for the
general population?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeap. So it all starts with, you know, with the
stem cell harvesting itself, right, So we use a we
use a n f T, a registered lab within the
within the United States, and they fall all appical protocols
for you know, screening the donor ahead of time that
includes uh, you know, any type of you know, Ailman's
(35:16):
genetic diseases, things like that. After the you know, tissue
is harborded, harvested, it goes to a full pathology report,
you know, any positive indications on that, you know that
the tissue can't be used from there. The tissue actually
goes through a screening and cleaning process as well to
remove any potential you know, genetic material from that. So
you're getting uh, you know, the meschymal stem cells. It's
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itself right and in a clean version without any uh
you know, genetic potentially harmful or not even harmful, just
you know, genetic material that could be not familiar to
your body. And then you know, from there we follow
all you know, proper g MP guidelines for for processing
and formulating and storing the process as well. So there's
(35:59):
quite a bit that goes into the uh, you know,
the processing of our product to ensure safety.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Mm hmmm. And Grant, we're coming up on another break,
but a real quick question actually a little bit of
TWI a bit of information. Uh, I've been doing regenerate
medicine for quite some time. But did you know I'm
sure you probably knew this, but for the listeners, did
did you know that RFK Junior he's a stem cell advocate.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, and that's a just a comment on that too.
It's it's actually very exciting, not only for you know,
for for neuvasil, which is the regenda medicine in general.
Is like you said, Mark is a stem cell advocate,
and now we're even starting to see legislative moves in
this with this new build I got passed and forward
that's formally recognizing stem cell therapy. So it's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
All right, folks, don't wander off just yet. We're going
to be right back after this break with Grant Townsend.
You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin show.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
What's fun within, What's wrong within, What's wrong within? Content?
As it's time to get.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
The ladies and gentlemen. We've reached the end of another
hour of The Doctor Bob Martin Show. But let's be clear,
this hour wasn't just a conversation about back pain. It's
about giving you the power, the power to reclaim your
body from a system that's been selling you short for decades.
(37:35):
If you think about it, how many times have you
sat in a doctor's office and they handed you yet
another prescription and thought, there's got to be more to this.
That instinct that's your brain fighting for you, the same
brain we now know holds the key to unlocking lasting relief.
And I'm here with Grant Towns and the CEO of nuvasel,
(37:56):
a topical stem cell treatment, and Grant, I want to
just ask, beyond joint pain, what future applications excite you
the most about topical stem cell therapy. Is it skin rejuvenation,
nerve repair or are there other untapped areas?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah? So, I mean there's there's tons of potential, right
and I and I think that, you know, the the
shortthitter is it's unlimited, you know, talking about you know,
nerve repair definitely being one of those, but also, uh,
you know two products that we actually have in the
pipeline right now that we're hoping to launch by January
of twenty twenty six. So coming up here in a
few months are going to be a hair a hair
(38:32):
growth product, in a in a skin repair product is
as well, you know, so we know, uh, you know,
hair loss is a is a big problem in the US,
and uh, you know, the the technology behind the exit
and potential to regenerate hair folcles is pretty exponential. So
we were we're going to be going into some testing
here pretty soon on that and and and we'll be
(38:52):
launching that as well as a dedicated you know, skin
line for you know, proof speed, you know, saggy eyes, uh,
things like that. More so on the the aesthetic line.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Nice Nice, I think a lot of a lot of
listeners will be interested and see more about that coming
down the pipeline. And Grant, can you can you tell
me where where our listeners can find nuvasl yep.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
So if you go to our website Nuvaso Biologics dot com,
that's n u v O c E L L B
I O L O g I c S dot com
and you hit the finding your Provider tool to top
right there, type in your address. Uh, you'll pop up
local providers in your area. If if you don't have
(39:34):
anyone that pops up there, you can submit your information
and we'll reach out and try to find someone to you.
And uh, if you want to, you know, kit ship
directly to your doors as well, you can submit a
form on the Doctor Bob Show to get a provider
in touch with you to do an initial consultation and
then we'll ship kits directly through your door. And then
(39:55):
we're off wearing some discounts off of that for our
normal twelve fifty price for thousand dollars for one kit,
nine hundred dollars for two kits, or eight hundred dollars
per kit for for three kits. So some really good
discounts there, and a couple different options to define a provider.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
All right, well, Grant, thank you very much for joining us.
And again, where you can find Nuvasel. You can go
to their website Nuvasel Biologics dot com, or you can
go to our website doctor Bob dot com. And Grant
has been kind enough to give us a listeners a discount. Again,
that's Nuvasel Biologics dot com or doctor Bob dot Com
(40:30):
until next time. Listeners, stay fierce, stay curious, and remember,
the best doctor doesn't live in a clinic, They live
in your head. You can be your own best doctor.
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Of Good Day and welcome Doctor Adam Brockman here co
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We're glad you're tuned in today, and Doctor Bob will
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I will be getting into a caller marathon with your questions. Now,
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let's start off by talking about pain, specifically the kind
that makes you It lingers, it gnaws at you, and
makes you reach for that bottle of pills. But what
if I told you the real breakthrough in pain relief
isn't found a prescription pad or in a surgeon's scalpel.
(01:46):
What if the key to unlocking lasting relief has been
hiding in your own mind this entire time. Today we're
looking at cognitive functional therapy known as CFT. It's an
approach that's been around for a while, but it's flipping
the script on chronic pain. Forget masking symptoms with pills
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and that comes with that laundry list of side effects.
Cognitive functional therapy rewires your brain in the relationship with pain,
and it teaches you to stop sounding those false alarms.
In the science that backs it up, patients who have
tried everything, surgeries, injections, endless, physical therapy, they're now finally
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finding freedom from pain years later. But that's not all.
Later in the show, we'll be joined by a very
special guest who is here to talk about pain perception
and also the benefits of regenda medicine. Trust me, you'll
want to stick around for that. And Hey, if you're
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I'm still in pain. We want to hear from you.
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doctor Bob dot com. All right, listeners, we've got a
powerhouse hour ahead, so let's go ahead and dive in
and just maybe maybe your pain free future starts now.
So what I want to discuss is mind over matter
in that scientific cure for chronic back pain. Today, let's
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tackle one of the most pervasive health issues affecting adults worldwide,
and that's chronic back pain. But we're not just talking
about temporary fixes or masking those symptoms with painkillers. Now
today we're going to dive into a revolutionary approach that's
changing lives. It's cognitive functional therapy or CFT, and let's
(04:32):
explore how it compares to other effective treatments like chiropractic
care in regenda medicine. So, folks, in just a few
short minutes, you'll understand why CFT, Cognitive functional therapy is
being hailed as a high value, low risk intervention with
side effects or no effects, and it lasts for years.
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So sit back comfortably, I hope, and let's get into it.
As far as back pain. Back pain is the leading
cause of disability globally and affects nearly sixty five million Americans,
and nearly twenty million of those have been diagnosed as
chronic back pain. And for decades, the standard treatment has
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been a combination of painkillers, physical therapy, and in severe cases, surgery.
But there's a problem with this. These approaches only provide
temporary relief. A recent study that was published in the
Lancet Rheumatology magazine found that conventional treatments offer only small
(05:38):
to moderate benefits. At best, painkillers they mass the symptoms,
but they don't address the root cause. In surgery, it's
invasive and risky with no guarantee of long term success,
and physical therapy, while helpful for many, it often fails
to address that psychological component of chronic pain. This is
(06:02):
where cognitive functional therapy CFT comes in. Unlike traditional methods,
CFT doesn't just treat the body, it rewires the brain,
and the results I think they're nothing short of remarkable.
CFT is a type of psychotherapy that's specifically designed for
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chronic pain. It's based on the idea that pain isn't
just about physical sensation. It's this complex interplay of thoughts, emotions,
and behaviors. And here's how it works, you start to
understand pain. CFT teaches patients that pain doesn't always equal harm.
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For example, a twinge in your back and might feel alarming,
but it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to have
further injury. CFT also breaks that fear avoidance cycle, as
many people with chronic pain they avoid movement out of fear,
which then it leads to stiffness and worsening. Symptoms, but
(07:08):
CFT helps patients relearn safe movements and CFT also creates
what known as kind of a behavioral change. Patients are
guided to adopt healthier habits like proper posture in stress management,
and this is to to reduce the pain triggers. There's
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Australian University Marquerrie University study that found that patients who
received CFT kindative functional therapy had seven sessions over twelve
weeks and they had a booster session at twenty six
weeks and the results they had a significant reduction in
pain and disability that lasted up to three years. And
(07:53):
this is why this matters because CFT addresses the root
of chronic pain, the brain's overactive alarm system. It's not
just about fixing the back, it's about retraining the mind. Now,
CFT it's not just only effective for back pain. Let's
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compare to other proven methods and see how they can
work together. Like chiropractic care, adjustments can realign the spine
and it releaves pressure on the nerves and it helps
to improve the mobility. If you combine chiropractic care to
address structural issues in CFT to tackle that psychological barrier.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You have a.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Powerhouse, a powerhouse to recovery. Another option is Regenda medicine,
stem cell therapy and PRP injections that promote tissue healing.
And then when you combine that with CFT, patients not
only heal physically, but also learn to move without fear
and it prevents that re injury. And we'll get more
(09:04):
about this in Reginda Medicine with a special guest that's
coming up after the break. And also I do want
to mention physical therapy here. It strengthens the muscles and
that is crucial. But without addressing that fear of movement
that's a key focus of the CFT, progress can stall.
So the takeaway is CFT isn't a replacement for these therapies.
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It's a compliment if you think of it as a
glue that holds everything together. I want to give you
example of a patient that I treated. Her name is
Sarah and she was forty five years old. She suffered
from chronic back pain for about ten years, and after
kinditive functional therapy she learned to distinguish between hurt and
(09:46):
harm and she gradually returned to hiking and that was
a passion that she had given up. What we did
is we combine CFT with Regenda medicine treatment. Again, the
combination worked, wonders, I think we have time. I'll give
you an other example of another patient, James, who is
fifty two. We combine CFT with chiropractic care and he says,
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for the first time in years, I feel in control
of my pain. That's powerful. Again, that mind component there
in these series, the stories I just gave you, they're
not outliers. They're evidence of what should be a shift
in that pain management. So again, we're coming up on
(10:29):
a break, and if you're tired of temporary fixes, the drugs,
the surgery, it's time to think differently. You're back or
your other joints in your brain may just reward you
with a hype or more playing time with the grandkids
and absence of pain. So again, we're coming up on
(10:50):
a break and we'll get with our special guest right
after that. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
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Speaker 2 (11:13):
Welcome back. You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
I'm doctor Adam Brockman, and I want you to remember
if you've got questions, our toll free hotline is always
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That's eight hundred six zero six eight eight two to
two eight hundred six zero six eight a two two.
Let's get right back into it. Before the break, we
were talking about why your brain and not your spine
is the real culprit behind chronic back pain. And I
want to be brutally honest. The way conventional medicine treats
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back pain is archaic. We've been conditioned to think of
spine like faulty car pot parts, you know, popping a pill,
cutting a piece out, or worst case, swap out the
disc like it's a flat tire. But here's the uncomfortable truth.
Chronic back pain isn't just a structural problem. It's a
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brain hijack. Until we address the neurological panic button that's
stuck on fire, no mound of pills is going to
fix it. The Australian CFT Cognitive Functional Therapy study we
were talking about, it's a.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Wake up call.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
For years, patients have been gas lit into believing their
pain is all in their head. Well, it turns out
that's partially right, but not in the way dismissive doctors
implied pain is manufactured by the brain, but that doesn't
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make it any less real. If you can imagine, it's
like a hypervigilance security system that's blaring alarms when that
squirrel runs.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Through your yard.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
CFT cognitive functional therapy doesn't silence the alarm. It reprograms
the system to stop overreacting. Now here's where modern medicine
gets it backwards. We're obsessed with passive treatments, you know, pills,
pain blocks, or even surgery that outsources the healing to
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external fixes. CFT flips that script. It's the ultimate empowerment tool.
You become the treatment by rewiring thought patterns like all
pain equals danger. In dismantling fear avoidance behaviors, patients reclaim
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their independence and control over pain. I think that's revolutionary,
but let's not throw out what does work on that.
Muscular skeletal pain, chiropractic care, physical therapy, in regenda medicine,
they all play critical roles, and even consider combining these
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with CFT cognitive functional therapy. Think of it like this,
chiropractors align the hardware CFT updates the software in regenaive therapies,
they're the system reboot together. They're unstoppable. The bottom line,
if you've tried everything for back pain and you still suffer,
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the missing piece isn't in your spine, it's your mindset.
Pain is a conversation between your body and your brain.
It's time we started listening in talking back. Speaking of
trying something new for your pain. I want to introduce
you to our next special guest that is here to
talk about a very promising treatment for your pain. More,
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I want you to welcome a man who knows what
it means to fight for a comeback, both on the
court and in the lab. Grant Townsend was a Division
I basketball player. After basketball, he endured multiple surgeries, endless
rehab in the crushing reality that his body still hurt.
But where most would surrender, this former forward turned his
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pain into purpose. Years of degenerative dis disease in neuropathy
led him to a revelation that stem cell therapy it
didn't just ease his pain, it rewrote his future. Combining
his engineering background with first hand experience as a patient,
Grant founded nuvasel to bring regenda medicine to the masses,
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and that was without the high price tag or jumping
through insurance hoops. It was just cutting edge science with
accessible solutions that actually worked. Today, he's going to share
how stem cell saved his body, the science behind nuva cell,
and how you can harness your bodies innate ability to
heal without breaking the bank. All right, Grant, welcome to
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the Doctor Bob Martin Show. You doing all right today?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Hey, doctor Brockman, I'm doing very well. Thank you for
having me on the show. And was was that previous
topic there you were you were talking about on the
cognitive piece was very interesting and something I'd definitely resonate.
Was happy to be here and talk about nuvasille with
the community.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Uh huh, uh huh. And Grant and through as a
as a former athlete, did you ever do anything like
cognitive functional therapy or just kind of that psychological component
sometimes you have to do as an athlete.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Oh, you know, I think we we've talked about this before, Rate,
But when I injured my back when I was seventeen
years old, originally you know, very young for first of
your back injury, like I had and it was. It
was pretty debilitating. And I did everything. I had surgery
when I was nineteen. I did every single modality out there,
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from physical rehab, the chiropractic to you know, shockwave therapy, acupuncturist, massage.
I mean, you named it right. I did every single
thing I I could try to to heal from my
from my back, even as a last resort going through surgery.
And even you know that surgery and the quarter zone
shots and all of that, they all they all failed me.
It wasn't really until I started dialing in on the
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cognitive piece that I actually began to see results. And
for me personally, it was about the you know, the
the alignment of my of my body right and uh,
you know, how my posture was, how I walked, how
I did certain movements, There was correction I need to
do that all you know, stem from uh uh, you know,
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focusing on it, strengthening abs, things like like that. That
really made a game or a game changer my realabilitation.
And then, you know, like we've talked about before, just
because of all the you know, the surgery, the repetition,
the stress on it, I have had, you know, pretty
pretty severe degeneration in my UH in my lower lumbar,
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So you know, combining that you know, cognitive perspective and
then you know, using Reginda medicine s actually restored the
disc I've felt better than I did, you know, when
I was seventeen years old.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And that and that's what we want to get a
lot of listeners to understand that. Sometimes it's that combination
of therapy and in nuvicel being such a groundbreaking treatment
option that is accessible to everybody. I want to talk
about that for me a little bit more. Can Can
you explain how applying stem cells topically differs from traditional injections,
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including not only steroid injections, but Reginda medicine injections, and
why this delivery method, the topical could be a game
changer for for most patients or or any of our listeners.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. So. So the main you know, mechanism
of action and how we've been able to develop our
product really revolves around the current developments and exosomes. So
for anyone who's not, you know, familiar with exosomes, there's
a lot of excitement in and around the industry, but
an exosome is a is a type of extracellz or
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a vesicle that is secreted by mesol commal stem cells.
So when they take a step back from that, right,
the regenerative medicine industry as a whole has been really
focused on you know, live mesol commal stem cells and
injecting those stem cells into your body to see, you know,
for those cells to differentiate into to damage tissue, to
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to repair certain areas. And the big benefit of that,
right is it's it's natural healing, natural regeneration. You're not
you're not masking the pain or masking the cause or
masking the inflammation. You're actually fixing the root cause. Right. So,
you know, going from there, when we when we talk
about uh exizomes and and what those are doing, there's
(20:08):
a there's a you know, plus there of different topics
I can I can talk about here, but the you know,
the main thing being is that they are a self
free you know, messager compared to a to a live cell.
And there's a few different points behind there and how
you know, they're easier to harvest and distribute, they're safer.
But the research on the market now is showing that
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this is where the the you know, regeneral properties are
coming from uhuh.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And so we're talking with Grant Townsend, the CEO of
nubas Cell, and he's discussing exosomes and how stem cell
therapy and regenda medicine can can help regenerate those joints
and make you feel better. You're listening to the Doctor
Bob Martin Show. We'll be back with Grant in just
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phone call away at eight hundred six zero six eight
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eighty two to two. Let's keep a work and growing
and empowering each other, all right, Grant, So we were
talking about exosomes, and I want you to give just
a quick recap of what a exosome is and why
that's so powerful for the body.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, so, you know, going back to what we were
talking about before the breakthre so, so the exozome is
really what's enabled this call the new age of Virginita,
the medicine. And to give a little bit more a
detail about that, the you know exozoone versus the live
stem cell itself. Think about exozome as a delivery truck, right,
or maybe not just any order ordinary delivery truck, really
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a specialized delivery machine that has a unique ability to
navigate through the body, crossing biological barriers and delivering important
messages the cells by utilizing call it a natural you know,
state of the art homing sequence right to identify and
find cells that are that are in need to deliver
its package. And then there is the package that the
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XO zone has, right, the it's carrying a complex and
potent combination of hundreds of different types of growth factors
and cietykins that all have individual roles and supporting regeneration
and inflammation, modulation and muscles, cartilage, tendons, ligaments, bones, nerves, blood, vessel, skin,
you name it, right, So that's really you know, that's
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the mechanism of the exosome. And what that what that
really dials down to is it's it's cell to cell
signaling versus cell differentiation. Right, So, cell to cell signaling,
also known as the para crone effect, is basically what
the exozoone is doing, right. It's it's using its homing beacon,
it's it's delivering it's it's message navigating through the body,
(23:39):
versus cell differentiation, which is what traditional stem cell technology
is based off of, where you know, you inject the
live stem cell and a differentiation into into tissues. So
that's the you know, the real, the real differentiator, and
what a lot of the research is is showing is
that the majority of the benefit from stem cells maybe
from what the stem cell secretes once it's in the
body and not necessarily the stem cell differentiating into into
(24:02):
different cells. That's you know, that's what's been really exciting
in the industry lately. And you know a few another
reasons that XO zones are gaining so much traction is, uh,
you know, one, there's there's a couple of different beliefs
on you know, when you inject the live stem cell,
those tem cells are probably dying before injection. And what's
the likelihood of a live cell being able to you know,
differentiate into a you know one and a billion specific
(24:25):
you know genome, right, some people believe that to be impossible.
But you know the other reason is is because exozoon
and their cell free nature that they're not a live
step stem cell. One, their safety profiles are much better. Uh,
they have you know, less likelihood of immune rejection and
lower chances of tumor formation because of that, you know,
lack of DNA and ability to replicate or mutate. But
(24:48):
they're also much more cost effective to one, you know,
harvest and distribute, but also transport. Right. They could be
stabilized with things like lipid nanoparticles at you know, shelf temperatures,
right and and you know, using different delivery methods that
administered topically.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, we're talking with Grant Grant Townsend the CEO of
Nuva Cell. He has created a topical stem cell formula
that's groundbreaking, and I've been using Regenda medicine in my
practices for about ten years now, mainly buy the mode
of injections because that was what was around doing, either
stem cell injections or platelet rich plasma injections or even prolotherapy,
(25:29):
all of which are very effective. And usually how I
describe it to the patients is once that stem cell
or even even the the PRP which I like to
call many stem cells, gets in the body, they're they're
able to uh to repair and regenerate those tissues around
them by morphine into into whatever cell that may be
that is needed. And that's what's so fascinated about this.
(25:51):
This is something that's very accessible and if you're interested
in finding out more about Nuva Cell, you can visit
their website at Nuva Cell by a lots dot com.
That's nuvasel Biologics dot com. I'll spell this out for you.
It's in you v O C E L L B
I O L O G I c S dot com.
(26:12):
You can also go to doctor Bob dot com and
see and fill out a form and in Grant and
his team will put you with a provider to get
it shipped directly to your door. And if you're a
provider that's interested in, uh in finding out more about
nuvasel and maybe offering it to your patients, you can
also go to nuvasel Biologics dot com or doctor Bob
(26:34):
dot com and find more information there. All right, And
also I do want to mention this too, Grant has
been kind enough to offer doctor Bob Martin show listeners
a discount of twenty percent off of your first order. Again,
you can go to doctor Bob dot com and fill
out a quick form to be connected with one of
(26:55):
Grant's providers at Nuvasel network, or you can go to
nuvasel Biologics dot com. Grant is that uh where where
can else can listeners find nu visel? Uh? It's in
Also got your local chiropractor, acupuncturist, integrative health professional, Yeah,
(27:16):
any any other?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So Yeah, there's a you know the easiest way to
do it is there's a find your Provider tool on
our website. You can go in there, type in your
address and all the local providers will will pop up
in your area. You named it, right, chiropractors, acupuncture and
functional medicine, pain clinics, and if there's not a provider
in your your area, there there'll be a form where
you can give us your info and and we'll go
(27:39):
uh and uh and find one uh for you. And
then like you mentioned, you know, through the through the
Doctor Bob Show, uh, we can we can ship a
you know, ship kits directly to your door. And there's
actually the our normal retail price is one thousand and
fifty dollars per kit, but through the Doctor Bob Show,
we're doing uh uh two hundred and fifty disc dollars
(28:02):
discount on one kit, so that's one thousand dollars a kit.
And then a lot of times when people call they
want to order multiple or you know, they have a
pretty severe injury where they they know it's going to
take multiple kits, or they want to you know, get
a couple for their friends and family. So we were
offering some pretty good discounts on the two and and
and three kid options as well. So you can buy
two kits for for nine hundred dollars a kit, or
three kits for for eight hundred dollars a kit, So
(28:23):
pretty pretty significant discounts there for the doctor Bob community and.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
In grant that since this is such a new new formula,
grand breaking formula, can you also explain that you are
looking to add providers to your to your network as well.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Please Yep, yep, definitely. That's uh yeah, that's a it's
a good point. Right. So we're we're a newer company.
We're trying to grow and expand our our network. So
you know, if you're a provider interested in this type
of technology, uh, maybe you have experience with the agenda
and medicine stem cell or uh and you want to
(29:01):
add you know, a take home option or or an
add on to your to your platform, or you're not
experience in that and you want to add regut of
medicine to your practice. You can go to our website.
There'll be a tab at the top there for uh,
you know, I'm a provider, and then you will uh
submit a provider application and then someone from our team
will will you know, get in touch with you and
uh you know, review everything to to approve your your
(29:24):
account and uh, you know, we've got some some introductory
offers there for for providers who are interesting and enjoying
a network as well.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
All right, Grant, thank you for that. And again I
do want to remind you if you do want to
go to doctor Bob dot com. Our telehealth services let
you connect with a healthcare professional fast right from your couch,
no waiting room required, and you might be able to
get Nuba self or that you can.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We're going to be back with Grant right after the break.
You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin Show. I saw
your dad.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I'm a bush of number Simon.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
One never singles a I don't stop today.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Welcome back doctor Adam Brockman here, and you're tuned into
the Doctor Bob Martin Show. And remember for you you
can always call our toll free hotline at eight hundred
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Speaker 3 (30:46):
Two to two.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Don't hesitate to call us. Your health journey matters and
we're here to help you every step of the way.
We're talking with Grant Townsend, the CEO of Nuvasel, a
revolutionary topical stem cell formula, and for for years now,
accessibility has been a major hurdle in regenda medicine. How
does NUVASL plan to make this technology affordable and available
(31:10):
compared to those costly clinical based THEM cell treatments and
other steroid injections and surgery.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, so when you you know, first, when you look
at the current Regena medicine market, right, the leading modality
on the field is UH is them cell injections and
typically those are UH metal comosts them sell from donated
in bilical court tissues kind of the leading modality because
of its uh it's you know, healing potential. Right, So
when you look at that one, obviously you know, getting
(31:40):
UH donated local court tissue, there there's a lot of processes, screening,
uh safety tests that go through that. But then two,
when you know doctors are having to do injections in
their office, there there's a lot of extra overhead and
costs and scheduling that that goes into that. So, you know,
by taking nuvus cell, which is it's just using the
same you know, mess some commo stem cell technology, but
(32:02):
now in a in a easily applied even at home
topical cream, you're you're eliminating all the you know, uh
procedural time needed in the office, the you know, the overhead,
the the equipment needed to do those types of injections.
That's what makes this much more uh much more affordable
for for the patient, right, and not just affordable, but
(32:24):
you know, talk about excessive, uh accessible, safer and without
downtime to non invasive. Right. So that's been that's the
name of the game. Is it's a you know, it's
a it's a topic grew and the patients taken home
with him. You apply it morning and night. You're not
having to do any invasive procedures. There's no downtime. You
have less risk with that as well. So it's a
(32:48):
you know, it's a we call it a pretty big
week forward in the region of the medicine space. And
and and it's an exciting time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And a lot of times the stem cell treatments they
may be three thousand and five thousand, ten, one thousand
or more. And this is right around that twelve hundred
and fifty dollars range. And Grant's been kind enough to
give a twenty percent discount to doctor Bob Martin show listeners.
And Grant, I want to ask a couple more questions here.
(33:16):
We often hear skepticism around stem cell therapies. Can you
give me some examples of peer reviewed evidence that exists
to support the efficiency of topical stem cells for conditions
like osteoarthritis or maybe even degenerative joint pain.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, yeah, No, there's a ton of clinical evidence coming
out right now about the stem cell industry in general.
So there's you know, just over three thousand clinical trials
registered with the World Health Organization over the last decade
on stem cell stem cell research. You know, publications around
(33:54):
stem cell have increased about forty x in that last
decade as well. And you know, some of the recent
UH studies are showing that stem cell you know, stem
cell treatment application can increase lifespan by approximately forty percent
in some certain animal model testing going on right now.
You know from that there's a there's a eighty person
(34:17):
case pilot study out there using transnormal stem cell technology
where patients sell fifty one percent decrease and pain with
just one treatment. And you know, quite a bit as
I mentioned, you know, different publications per reviewed and and
and whatnot around the space. There's there's a ton of
research you know, building and coming out on a daily
basis at this point.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
M and Grant of course, with this leads into safety
and safety is paramount. What rigorous testing has nuva cel
undergone to to make this safe and effective for the
general population?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeap. So it all starts with, you know, with the
stem cell harvesting itself, right, So we use a we
use a n f T, a registered lab within the
within the United States, and they fall all appical protocols
for you know, screening the donor ahead of time that
includes uh, you know, any type of you know, Ailman's
(35:16):
genetic diseases, things like that. After the you know, tissue
is harborded, harvested, it goes to a full pathology report,
you know, any positive indications on that, you know that
the tissue can't be used from there. The tissue actually
goes through a screening and cleaning process as well to
remove any potential you know, genetic material from that. So
you're getting uh, you know, the meschymal stem cells. It's
(35:38):
itself right and in a clean version without any uh
you know, genetic potentially harmful or not even harmful, just
you know, genetic material that could be not familiar to
your body. And then you know, from there we follow
all you know, proper g MP guidelines for for processing
and formulating and storing the process as well. So there's
(35:59):
quite a bit that goes into the uh, you know,
the processing of our product to ensure safety.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Mm hmmm. And Grant, we're coming up on another break,
but a real quick question actually a little bit of
TWI a bit of information. Uh, I've been doing regenerate
medicine for quite some time. But did you know I'm
sure you probably knew this, but for the listeners, did
did you know that RFK Junior he's a stem cell advocate.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, and that's a just a comment on that too.
It's it's actually very exciting, not only for you know,
for for neuvasil, which is the regenda medicine in general.
Is like you said, Mark is a stem cell advocate,
and now we're even starting to see legislative moves in
this with this new build I got passed and forward
that's formally recognizing stem cell therapy. So it's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
All right, folks, don't wander off just yet. We're going
to be right back after this break with Grant Townsend.
You're listening to the Doctor Bob Martin show.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
What's fun within, What's wrong within, What's wrong within? Content?
As it's time to get.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
The ladies and gentlemen. We've reached the end of another
hour of The Doctor Bob Martin Show. But let's be clear,
this hour wasn't just a conversation about back pain. It's
about giving you the power, the power to reclaim your
body from a system that's been selling you short for decades.
(37:35):
If you think about it, how many times have you
sat in a doctor's office and they handed you yet
another prescription and thought, there's got to be more to this.
That instinct that's your brain fighting for you, the same
brain we now know holds the key to unlocking lasting relief.
And I'm here with Grant Towns and the CEO of nuvasel,
(37:56):
a topical stem cell treatment, and Grant, I want to
just ask, beyond joint pain, what future applications excite you
the most about topical stem cell therapy. Is it skin rejuvenation,
nerve repair or are there other untapped areas?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah? So, I mean there's there's tons of potential, right
and I and I think that, you know, the the
shortthitter is it's unlimited, you know, talking about you know,
nerve repair definitely being one of those, but also, uh,
you know two products that we actually have in the
pipeline right now that we're hoping to launch by January
of twenty twenty six. So coming up here in a
few months are going to be a hair a hair
(38:32):
growth product, in a in a skin repair product is
as well, you know, so we know, uh, you know,
hair loss is a is a big problem in the US,
and uh, you know, the the technology behind the exit
and potential to regenerate hair folcles is pretty exponential. So
we were we're going to be going into some testing
here pretty soon on that and and and we'll be
(38:52):
launching that as well as a dedicated you know, skin
line for you know, proof speed, you know, saggy eyes, uh,
things like that. More so on the the aesthetic line.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Nice Nice, I think a lot of a lot of
listeners will be interested and see more about that coming
down the pipeline. And Grant, can you can you tell
me where where our listeners can find nuvasl yep.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
So if you go to our website Nuvaso Biologics dot com,
that's n u v O c E L L B
I O L O g I c S dot com
and you hit the finding your Provider tool to top
right there, type in your address. Uh, you'll pop up
local providers in your area. If if you don't have
(39:34):
anyone that pops up there, you can submit your information
and we'll reach out and try to find someone to you.
And uh, if you want to, you know, kit ship
directly to your doors as well, you can submit a
form on the Doctor Bob Show to get a provider
in touch with you to do an initial consultation and
then we'll ship kits directly through your door. And then
(39:55):
we're off wearing some discounts off of that for our
normal twelve fifty price for thousand dollars for one kit,
nine hundred dollars for two kits, or eight hundred dollars
per kit for for three kits. So some really good
discounts there, and a couple different options to define a provider.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
All right, well, Grant, thank you very much for joining us.
And again, where you can find Nuvasel. You can go
to their website Nuvasel Biologics dot com, or you can
go to our website doctor Bob dot com. And Grant
has been kind enough to give us a listeners a discount. Again,
that's Nuvasel Biologics dot com or doctor Bob dot Com
(40:30):
until next time. Listeners, stay fierce, stay curious, and remember,
the best doctor doesn't live in a clinic, They live
in your head. You can be your own best doctor.
Doctor Adam Brocklan signing off on this hour of The
Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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