September 8, 2025 • 40 mins
The CDC is imploding - top officials resigning, the director refusing to leave, and RFK Jr. declaring war on what he calls decades of scientific malpractice. Is this a much-needed detox for public health... or a
dangerous power grab? Dr. Bob and Dr. Adam go beyond the headlines to expose the real sickness at
America's top health agency. The diagnosis may shock you.
dangerous power grab? Dr. Bob and Dr. Adam go beyond the headlines to expose the real sickness at
America's top health agency. The diagnosis may shock you.
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out the word doctor. Now, doctor Bob, let's talk about
the elephant in America's waiting room, and that's the CDC,
the Center for Control. It's isn't just having a bad month,
it's having a full system meltdown that makes this COVID
era flipflops look organized. We've got a director who won't
leave her office like it's a sit in protest against
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common sense. And we've got top docs from the CDC
that are jumping ship faster than those rats that are
sinking on the big pharma yacht. And RFK Junior he's
enter America's health reformer. He's declaring open season on what
he calls decades of scientific malpractice. And this isn't just
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your government drama, folks, this is your health. That's on
the line. And remember when the CDC told us mask
didn't work, then they did, and then they said, well
maybe not. When they ignored natural immunity like it was
a voodoo magic, and when they treated early COVID treatments
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like secrets while pushing boosters like they were breakfast cereal. Yeah,
I remember, and I know you do too. But here's
what really grinds my gears that the same people who
screwed up pandemic response are now cluttering their pearls because
someone dares to clean house. It'd be funny if it
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wasn't so dangerous, because doctor Bob, I know if this
happened at my clinics, if I kept misdiagnosing patients this badly,
I would have not just got fired, I get sued
into oblivion. So this is what I think needs to happen.
I think this is what RFK Junior is trying to do.
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He's trying to have this radical transparency and he's saying,
release all the data, no more of this trust us nonsense.
And then he's on board with this nutrition revolution, teaching
doctors to actually use prevention instead of pill pushing. And
then there's this accountability aspect. If you have bankrupted America's
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trust fund or basically just handed over to Peiser, you
don't get that golden parachute just to fly safely. So,
doctor Bob, have you been paying attention to this? This
is getting it is getting a little bit wild at
the CDC.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Just about forty years worth of attention on my end,
Doctor Rockman, I have been calling for the dismantling and
reconstruction of the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control and
quasi Prevention for years now. We have nine Because of
Health and Humans Secretary Robert F. Kennedy juniors wanting to
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clean house, excise the cancer that's there, all the fraud
and the misinformation, disinformation. Basically it's a clearinghouse, let's face it,
for the pharmaceutical companies. Nine former officials at the CDC
are saying Robert F. Kennedy's leadership of the US Health
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and Human Services Department is unlike anything our country has
ever experienced and unacceptable. That's their words. They also warned
that Kennedy's leadership should alarm every American, regardless of their
political leanings. Well. In a guest essay for The New
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York Times, recently, a former CDC leader said Kennedy's actions
were unlike anything they've ever seen as the agency. The
letter comes days after Kennedy sought to dismiss Susan Moran
as MD, the CDC director he appointed just months earlier.
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Moranez refused to leave her post and later was fired
by our President Donald Trump. Now you might remember some
of these characters that have been at the helm of
the CDC. We know their names, but a couple of
that popped into my mind was this Rochelle Wolinsky. Now
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you mentioned COVID in the Bidocle of COVID, the disaster
of the CDC was watchful in this calamity of the pandemic,
Rochelle Walynsky. I watched her as everybody else did on television,
on major news groups, as well as doctor Frauciu lying
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through their teeth the whole time. I wanted to just
remind our audience doctor Brockman, via a audio tape that
we have of this Rochelle Wolinsky, who was a former
CDC director, what she had to say and when she
was brought in front of Congress to testified what she
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knew about COVID let's play that tape right now, go.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
You'd have to say more'n twenty twenty one, Vaccinated people
do not carry the virus. Vaccinated people don't get sick.
We got that information from clinical trials, but also real
world data. It seems to me there are a number
of statements you make in there.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That aren't accurate.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Do you vaccinated people carry the virus?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
In March of twenty twenty one, the vast majority of
data demonstrated that the vast majority of people were not
getting infected if they were VASCA.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
What you said, you didn't say the vast majority of people.
You said, vaccinated people do not carry the virus. Was
that accurate?
Speaker 7 (08:31):
It was generally.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Accurate, generally accurate.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Why not just be accurate? Why not just tell the
American people the truth? Why they Why didn't you say
to the American people just what you said to me.
We're big boys and girls. We pay your salary. The
government is supposed to be of the people, by the people,
for the people. Why do not just tell us the truth?
I was speaking for six weeks later when you said,
if you were to get infected during post vaccination, you
can't give it to anyone else was that accurate? What
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was the date of that May nineteen, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
At the time we had the Wuhan strain and then
the Office strain that was the alpha strain that was circulating.
That was generally true.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, generally true? Again?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Why not again? Why not tell the American people this
is generally true.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
I couldn't tell you the exact data on the vaccine
effectiveness of symptomatic disease and severe disease at the time.
What I can tell you is that we generally saw
that if you were to get infected after you had
been vaccinated, that you were not carrying the virus by
transmitting it to somebody else. You could not transmit it
to others.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
But we know that's not accurate.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
It was at the time. Now what happened, yes and
day of twenty twenty one, that was happ That was
true for the alpha variant.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
You know there it is the lies just we're spinning
in all kinds of different directions. It's kind of like,
you know, asking your teenage child who has a curfew
at twelve midnight the next day you noticed that the
car engine still hot as you go by it in
the morning, it feels like it was just running and
it was like six am. And you ask your teenage child,
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were you late for your curfew you last night because
you were sleeping?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And the child says, yes, I was late.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
How late were you? Were you really late? Well, that's
generally true, I was late, dad. Generally generally speaking, I
was late. You know, this woman lied so many times
on so many topics, as did other CDC directors that
I lost count Doctor Brockman as to the lies, they said,
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of course you can't if you got to get the
You got to get the vaccine in order to stop
the infection. You can't infect anybody if you get it.
All of that was lies. Every single word coming out
of the CDC with respect to COVID and so many
other things have been complete fraud, covering the backsides of
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the pharmaceutical companies for their benefit. We'll talk more about this.
Have the breaks the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Stand by,
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all right, welcome, We welcome back to this hour the
Doctor Bob Martin's Show with me as my co host,
doctor Adam Brockman. He's standing by for comments on this
topic that we started out the hour discussing former CDC leaders,
slamming RFK Junior, the Health and Human Secretary as a
result of his firing and trying to clean house over
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at the CDC. A lot of cancer there with respect
to how they are the solely owned subsidiary. It seems
of the pharmaceutical companies. You know, it's like the wolf
guarding the hen house over there, the CDC all the
And what's really interesting about this is that most of
these CDC directors have been there. They find themselves with
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jobs immediately after leaving the CDC.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Some even have jobs with.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Big pharmao they before they're able to get into the CDC.
Talk about conflict of interest, you know, the CDC is
supposed to be protecting Americans, protecting our health, looking out
for our interests, where it just seems like they're looking
out only for the pharmaceutical industry's interests and the medical
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interest in general. I mean, how else would you explain
the fact that America we have one of the worst
healthcare records the systems on the planet, and yet we
spend the most And that of course is thanks to
a group of people, well, CDC, the AMA, the FDA,
the NIH in other words, the agency that are tasked
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or claimed to be overseers of the US healthcare system.
It's broken, that's what Robert F. Kennedy, Junior Health and
Human Secretary, is trying to fix. The US ranks dead
last in health and longevity compared to peer nations, particularly
concerning life expectancy, and most of you already know this.
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In a recent Commonwealth Fund study of ten wealthy countries,
the US health system ranked last overall, scoring lowest on
measures of health or outcome, despite spending more on healthcare
than any other nation. Now you tell me why we
need to clean house at the CDC. They have failed us,
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and it's been going on for decades. And at least
we have somebody now who is brave enough to step
up based on his understanding of what's been going on
at the CDC. And of course what they do is
they attack his credibility. They call him an anti vaxxer,
and he's he's danger to the system. How could you
be more dangerous to Americans when we have the worst longevity,
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We have so many chronic diseases, we do the most drugs,
and yet we get what for it. Well, we're the
lowest ranked country of all industrialized countries in terms of health.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So yes, Robert F.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Kennedy, go, we need to clean the house over at
the CDC reconstruct and get people in there who were
actually not bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical company.
All right, doctor Brockman, what do you have to say, sir?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well, going back to that testimony that we played the
audio clip of, you know which is it is covid,
it is the vaccine necessary to prevent it? Or I
mean people are still getting it? So I don't think
there was a clear answer of the doctor there what
she was saying, and and she fumbled a little bit
on that. And so here we are a few years
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later and there's still recommendations for this COVID vaccine. But
what what is what is the reference here? Where does
the CDC stan in today? And how have they fumbled
this so many years and still we're having this discussion,
doctor Bob.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Yeah, Well, we were told in order to compel people
to get the vaccine, we were told it was ninety
what four ninety three percent effective? If you get it,
you can't If you get the vaccine, you won't get COVID.
If you get the vaccine, you won't be able to
spread it to anybody else. We know that's just the opposite.
It's like twenty maybe maybe twenty percent effective either way.
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And you can, of course lunch you have the vaccine,
certainly spread it to others.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I mean, it's it's a joke.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
And now we see all.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
These people, the deaths that have been responsible for people
taking the COVID shot and the injuries that have occurred.
We're talking about hundreds of thousands of deaths have been
attributed many experts believe to persons getting COVID shots ill
advised decisions to get COVID shots. And then you have
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millions of people who are still railing with all all
kinds of health related problems and autoimmune diseases and heart
problems and long COVID who got the shot that their
quality of life now circles the drain. While the British
Medical Journal investigated the financial entanglement doctor Brockman between the
FDA and these drug industry chiefs. The investigation was published
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over at the British Medical Journal, and it raises concerns
about the financial entanglement. We've known this for a long
time and we know that the past out of the
past ten FDA commissioners, nine of them went on to
work in the drug industry or serve on the board
of directors of a drug company. And that includes Margaret Hamburg,
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who led the FDA from two thousand and nine to
twenty fifteen, but whose story is less well known. Now
it's finally coming to the surface. In fact, I keep
seeing doctor Brockman. This Scott Gottlieb. He's always in the news.
They're always going to him. One of the news channels
are going to him. Scott Gottlieb ran the FDA from
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twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. Then of course he left.
Where did he go? Right to Pfiser. He's on the
Pfiser boarding directors.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
He got the.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Big financial parachute coming out.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Of the FDA.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
They all do, Robert Calif, Steven Hahn, they all seem
to get these cushy, large jobs when they come out.
They call it the revolving door. In other words, as
soon as you get into the government and you're in there,
you have a great parachute over at big Pharma waiting
for you. So you best make sure that you meet
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our needs before you leave that building, or you won't
have a job.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
It's sick, and this is exactly why we need to
discuss why Robert F. Kennedy Junior is right to overhaul
the CDC, and Doctor Bob, I want to give a
little bit more background on this for the listeners that
may have seen all these stories that are coming out.
But the Center for Disease Control Imprevention, the CDC, it
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should be regarded as the gold standard of public health,
but in these recent years, I think its credibility has
crumbled under the weight of that political interference. You're talking
about the government bloat in these policy failures. So Health
and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior, he's demanding
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these sweeping reforms and his critics, like you mentioned, are
either blind to the agency's decay or they're complacent and
it's declined. So let's be clear. This isn't about partisan politics.
It's about restoring an institution that has lost its way.
The CDC. We've been talking about it's mishandling of COVID,
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the flip flopping on a mask, the botching testing, and
enforcing school closures with no scientific justification. And I want
to get into that a little bit more because that's
definitely affected my kids. But all this proves that the
agency prioritized a political agenda over the public health. And
Kennedy isn't destroying the CDC like the critics are saying,
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He's saving it from itself. And I also want to
be clear, Kennedy didn't create this crisis. He inherited it.
And for decades, the CDC, like you mentioned, you've been
watching this for forty years, has been plagued by inefficiency, corruption,
and a dangerous disconnect from real world health outcomes. So again, folks,
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I want you to consider the COVID catastrophe that has
taken place. In the catastrophe, it's the agency at flip
flopped on the mask first claiming they were unnecessary, then
they're mandatory, and then they're unnecessary again. And it suppressed
early treatment options like ivermectin that is now being it
may be considered over the counter in Texas. We'll watch
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that closely as well. And due to political pressure, enforced
these lockdowns that cause irrepairable harm to children's education and
mental health, and all this while failing to protect nursing
home residents during that time. So why aren't we looking
at the chronic disease mismanagement, that obesity, the diabetes, and
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the heart disease. This kills millions annually, Yet the CDC
spends more time pushing ineffective fear campaigns than promoting nutrition
and prevention. And then the big pharma influence that you
talked about, the agencies their cozy relationship with pharmaceutical companies
that is undermining the public trust. From the opiate guidelines
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to vaccine mandates. The CDC too often acts as a
lobbying arm rather than an impartial health authority. So there's
so much more to say on this, Doctor Bob. So
we're going to revisit this after the break. We're coming
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We've been talking about Robert F. Kennedy and his and
his reform of the CDC in Doctor Bob. I think
I think Kennedy's diagnosis is spot on. The CDC. It
suffers from a systemic malaise and so you don't fix
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cancer with a band aid, you look to remove it.
And we mentioned briefly, But I also want to talk
about Susan Monarez. She isn't a martyr here like the
media is putting her out to be. She's part of
the problem. Monarez's refusal to step down is being framed
as some heroic stand for science. But let's examine her
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record here. Under her watch. It's been brief, but the
CDC continued pushing outdated protocols that ignored natural immunity and
dismissed early treatment options in favor of these one size
fits all mandates and true science thrives on debate. Yet
Monarez presided over an agency that silenced doctors who question
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official narratives, just like during COVID when dissenting experts were
smeared as conspiracy theories. That sounds familiar, does that? Doctor Bob?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And I'm science, Mom, Fauci, Who I am science? What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Uh huh yeah, don't uh don't uh, don't push back
against anything that he said right at that during that
time and this mass resignations there of the top officials
of the CDC reveal an institute resistant to change, one
where these career politicians are, these people involved with politics,
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They prioritize job security over reform. So Kennedy, he's not
targeting Monarez, He's holding her accountable for an agency that
has betrayed us in its mission. If she truly cared
about public health, she wouldn't claim to this power. She'd
support a fresh start. So doctor Bob, I want to
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get your opinion on this. Monarez and her just camping
out at her office there at the CDC.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
No, it's just the same old, same all. I mean, look,
I would be I would.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Be thinking the same thing if the CDC's track record
was stellar and we outperformed other countries in terms of healthcare.
But the fact of the matter is the United States
spends the most unhealthcare. The United States is the most
medicated or drugged country, The United States has the most
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chronic diseases, and the United States has the shortest life
span of all industrialized nations. So you know, we're bad,
like zero on all of that. We get an F
as a grade, and we're wondering why someone is trying
to change it up to benefit the citizenry of the
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United States, Americans our health. You know, you asked the question,
where in the world are kids the healthiest well, here's
the hint.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Not here in America.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I can tell you that, in fact, we get out
performed in terms of health and longevity for children and adults. Africa,
you know, Europe, everybody outperforms Americans in terms of health.
So you can't look at the CDC and say, well, gosh,
why on earth would we want to change anything over there?
It's really working. I mean, look, how many people in
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the United States are healthy. Look how much money we
don't spend compared to other countries with respect to pharmaceutical
drugs and health measures. It's just the opposite of that.
The US healthcare system is the least efficient in the world. Now,
if you had a Fortune one hundred country company, it
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couldn't be a Fortune one hundred company. If it was
the least efficient in its category. It would be out
of business. It would be bankrupt. So here we have
the United States the least efficient in the world, and
we're wondering why the CDC needs to be dismantled and
reassembled in the order of trying to make it so
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that it's actually working for Americans rather than being a
clearinghouse for the pharmaceutical companies. I don't get why people
don't see this. But of course, you know, these people
are losing their jobs. They have had these cushy jobs
at the CDC, and nobody's been looking, you know, administering
any kind of reining them in as to the jobs
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they're doing. The efficiency of it. Somebody comes along in
the Trump era, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who by the way,
is a Democrat, and he goes in there and looks
and he says, oh my gosh, well, so of course
what they're doing is naming him, you know, anti vax or.
You know, he's in there disrupting it. He needs to this,
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Someone needs to someone needs needed to do this decades ago,
and it didn't happen because it's business as usual.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
There's gold in.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Them, their ills, and therefore it just keeps benefiting the
pharmaceutical companies and conventional medicine in general. Why do conventional
medicine has tried to stop this, and they've been successful
with stopping this for decades. I mean, after all, they've
tried to put their competitors out of business. How would
you like to have just one healthcare system in the
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United States? How would you like to have like one
car company?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You know, choose one.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
How would you like to have anything of one and
not have competition. Well, that's what the medical profession has
been doing well since the early nineteen hundreds. They've tried
to put everybody out of business who dared to compete
with them. And this is the same thing they know
at the CDC that when they start changing things up
and they start actually looking out for the consumers the
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American to make sure they're getting the best care, the
most conservative care at the right cost. Leave the emergency
stuff for conventional medicine. They do that well, we do
it well in the United States, but we don't do healthcare.
We do sick care here, we don't do health care.
And that's why for decades, probably since the early nineteen hundreds,
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the AMA and other political action committee groups have been
trying to put their competitors out of business. Initially the osteopaths,
the eclectics, the nature pass the chiropractors. They've always tried
to eliminate in very crude ways, very dastardly ways, their competition.
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And luckily all of that was stopped. But here we
are with the same broken system that needs to be retooled.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's about time doctor Brockman.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, you're absolutely correct, and you made a good point there,
and you when you said that that Kennedy, the Kennedy
family has long been Democrats and uh, and then obviously
he's working for a Republican administration. But if you're looking
at this, and then he ran as an independent. But
if you're looking at this, this is very non partisan,
and I want to I want to discuss these critics
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and why this is so important that this is nonpartisan
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Doctor Bob, let's get back into our conversation, and we
were discussing. I want to talk a little bit more
about critics and the critics they accuse Kennedy of making
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the CDC political now, but his plan is rooted in
principles that are nonpartisan, like restoring transparency. The CDC must
release the raw data alongside recommendation so independent experts can
verify the findings. No more of this trust us. It
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needs to be backed by studies that are not hidden
studies or industry funded research. And we need again take
the politics out of public health. Public health advice should
never change based on election cycles or media pressure. Remember
when mask mandates they vanished after midterms. Kennedy wants policies
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based on facts, not this fear mongering. And we also
need to prioritize prevention over profits. Unlike past leadership which
greenlit junk food subsidies while scolding Americans for being obese,
Kennedy is champion nutrition education and medical schools, a shift
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towards treating root causes instead of symptoms. I'm just wondering
why the backlash. It's because reform threatens the status quo.
The hysteria over Kennedy's overhaul isn't about science. It's about
a power struggle. So Doctor Bob, the media in this
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the outlets now they're portraying the major outlets are portraying
Monarez as the saint. And they're the same ones who
spent years going after anyone who questioned these flawed COVID policies.
In what you mentioned the pharmaceutical interest. A transparent CDC
means fewer backroom deals with these drug companies. And we
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know that these drug companies they're going to fight tooth
and nail against this accountability. And then many many at
the CDC they care more about preserving their influence than
serving the taxpayers. These groups, they are not defending science,
They're defending their turf, doctor Bob.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yeah, it's just it's sort of like the same accusation
against our current president. How on earth could we have
allowed a businessman, a real estate investor, to become president
of the United States. Where's the political where's the politicians?
Same deal. They're criticizing Robert F. Kennedy Junior because he's
not a doctor, and now the temporary person he has
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installed is temporary running the CDC. He's not a doctor. Well,
maybe they'll do a better job. When you think about
just how effective modern medicine is in general, doctor Brockman,
you look at it down deep. Only one in ten
of the drugs and treatments that anybody listening to the
sono my voice right today, any one of them your
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medical doctor prescribes. One in ten of the drugs has
actually solid proof that it will actually work. They think
about thirty percent of medicine or drug therapy may not
work at all with very poor evidence that is effective,
so applying the most exacting of measures. Researchers from Oxford
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University have discovered that the most most of medicine is
supported by only moderate to poor evidence, which throws into
question the vast sums invested in healthcare around the world
every year the US, we spend what trillions and trillions
of dollars on what they call health care. It's not healthcare,
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it's really sick care. It's treating symptoms rather than causes.
Now without you know, and we're not here to bash
the medical profession. We're here to say the system's broken,
needs to be fixed, work on the areas that are
the weakness. The weakness is health care, not sick care.
We do a tremendous job. I believe the dedicated men
and women of medicine do a tremendous job. I'm talking
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about those who are in the trenches of triage, emergency medicine,
surgeries that are from acute problems, fractures, bullet wounds, all
of that, and some of the innovations in some fields
of medicine are great, but when it comes to teaching
people how to be their own best doctors so they
don't need their doctors, we fall flat, as you know,
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doctor Brockman. And that's the reason why this radio show exists.
It's the genesis of this radio show that started back
in the nineteen well, the nationwide show that we're doing
right now started in the nineteen nineties, mid nineteen nineties
and became syndicated and started to grow very fast because
why because there was such a need for it. People
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need to hear an opposing view, They need to learn
how to take better care of themselves. Most of the
time they don't. Most people go to their doctor's office,
say what's your symptom. Okay, if you got something that's high,
I'll lower it. If you've got something that's low, I'll
raise that. I'll treat the symptom. And when the symptom
comes back, or you get symptoms from the drug, I'm
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gonna give you which about the average drug has about
the potential for seventy adverse side effects, come back, and
I'll give you another drug. How is that healthcare helping
that person get to being well, it isn't, and that's
why we need this change. Thank goodness, doctor for Robert F.
Kennedy Junior in dismantling the CDC.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
We'll be right back. I'm doctor Bob Martin.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Welcome back, doctor Adam Brockman here, and you're tuned into
the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Well, folks, we've reached our
time today. We're going to sign off on another hour
and let's recap what we've learned in this explosive hour
about the CDC's plosion. First, Susan Monarez is still camped
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out in her CDC office like it's some kind of
lobbyist sleepover. I hope they're saying there goodbyes. And meanwhile
RFK Junior keeps swinging his reform hammer like thor on
a mission to smash the pharmaceutical complex. And can we
talk about those resignations When your top disease detectives bail
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mid investigation, that's not just turnover, that's a I have
alarm fire in the science lab. Now here's what's got
me fired up. These are the same folks who told
us trust the science are they're suddenly outraged when someone
wants to actually examine the science. That's like a chef
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refusing to let you see the kitchen, probably because the
meat's been sitting out since twenty twenty, like COVID. But
let's get real. This isn't about politics. It's about your
grandma who couldn't get cancer treatment because hospitals were too
busy during COVID. It's about kids still struggling to read
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because their schools were closed longer than most celebrity marriages.
It's about every American who deserves health policies based on
evidence and not ego. So here's my parting prescription. Keep
demanding that raw data, the science data that supports health
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in support local clinics doing real preventive care, because here's
the ugly truth we uncover today. The CDC didn't just
fail us during COVID. It's been failing us for decades
on chronic disease, nutrition and real prevention. And if RFK
Junior's takeover makes just one lobbyist sweat over their six
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Doctor Bob, you have any closing thoughts.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
All good, Doctor Brockman.
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fire on a church. Forty fourth school shooting this year,
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on that. That's the third hour of the show today.
Don't go anywhere I think you're going to be surprised
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out the word doctor. Now, doctor Bob, let's talk about
the elephant in America's waiting room, and that's the CDC,
the Center for Control. It's isn't just having a bad month,
it's having a full system meltdown that makes this COVID
era flipflops look organized. We've got a director who won't
leave her office like it's a sit in protest against
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common sense. And we've got top docs from the CDC
that are jumping ship faster than those rats that are
sinking on the big pharma yacht. And RFK Junior he's
enter America's health reformer. He's declaring open season on what
he calls decades of scientific malpractice. And this isn't just
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your government drama, folks, this is your health. That's on
the line. And remember when the CDC told us mask
didn't work, then they did, and then they said, well
maybe not. When they ignored natural immunity like it was
a voodoo magic, and when they treated early COVID treatments
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like secrets while pushing boosters like they were breakfast cereal. Yeah,
I remember, and I know you do too. But here's
what really grinds my gears that the same people who
screwed up pandemic response are now cluttering their pearls because
someone dares to clean house. It'd be funny if it
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wasn't so dangerous, because doctor Bob, I know if this
happened at my clinics, if I kept misdiagnosing patients this badly,
I would have not just got fired, I get sued
into oblivion. So this is what I think needs to happen.
I think this is what RFK Junior is trying to do.
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He's trying to have this radical transparency and he's saying,
release all the data, no more of this trust us nonsense.
And then he's on board with this nutrition revolution, teaching
doctors to actually use prevention instead of pill pushing. And
then there's this accountability aspect. If you have bankrupted America's
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trust fund or basically just handed over to Peiser, you
don't get that golden parachute just to fly safely. So,
doctor Bob, have you been paying attention to this? This
is getting it is getting a little bit wild at
the CDC.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Just about forty years worth of attention on my end,
Doctor Rockman, I have been calling for the dismantling and
reconstruction of the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control and
quasi Prevention for years now. We have nine Because of
Health and Humans Secretary Robert F. Kennedy juniors wanting to
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clean house, excise the cancer that's there, all the fraud
and the misinformation, disinformation. Basically it's a clearinghouse, let's face it,
for the pharmaceutical companies. Nine former officials at the CDC
are saying Robert F. Kennedy's leadership of the US Health
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and Human Services Department is unlike anything our country has
ever experienced and unacceptable. That's their words. They also warned
that Kennedy's leadership should alarm every American, regardless of their
political leanings. Well. In a guest essay for The New
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York Times, recently, a former CDC leader said Kennedy's actions
were unlike anything they've ever seen as the agency. The
letter comes days after Kennedy sought to dismiss Susan Moran
as MD, the CDC director he appointed just months earlier.
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Moranez refused to leave her post and later was fired
by our President Donald Trump. Now you might remember some
of these characters that have been at the helm of
the CDC. We know their names, but a couple of
that popped into my mind was this Rochelle Wolinsky. Now
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you mentioned COVID in the Bidocle of COVID, the disaster
of the CDC was watchful in this calamity of the pandemic,
Rochelle Walynsky. I watched her as everybody else did on television,
on major news groups, as well as doctor Frauciu lying
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through their teeth the whole time. I wanted to just
remind our audience doctor Brockman, via a audio tape that
we have of this Rochelle Wolinsky, who was a former
CDC director, what she had to say and when she
was brought in front of Congress to testified what she
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knew about COVID let's play that tape right now, go.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
You'd have to say more'n twenty twenty one, Vaccinated people
do not carry the virus. Vaccinated people don't get sick.
We got that information from clinical trials, but also real
world data. It seems to me there are a number
of statements you make in there.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That aren't accurate.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Do you vaccinated people carry the virus?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
In March of twenty twenty one, the vast majority of
data demonstrated that the vast majority of people were not
getting infected if they were VASCA.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
What you said, you didn't say the vast majority of people.
You said, vaccinated people do not carry the virus. Was
that accurate?
Speaker 7 (08:31):
It was generally.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Accurate, generally accurate.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Why not just be accurate? Why not just tell the
American people the truth? Why they Why didn't you say
to the American people just what you said to me.
We're big boys and girls. We pay your salary. The
government is supposed to be of the people, by the people,
for the people. Why do not just tell us the truth?
I was speaking for six weeks later when you said,
if you were to get infected during post vaccination, you
can't give it to anyone else was that accurate? What
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was the date of that May nineteen, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
At the time we had the Wuhan strain and then
the Office strain that was the alpha strain that was circulating.
That was generally true.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, generally true? Again?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Why not again? Why not tell the American people this
is generally true.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
I couldn't tell you the exact data on the vaccine
effectiveness of symptomatic disease and severe disease at the time.
What I can tell you is that we generally saw
that if you were to get infected after you had
been vaccinated, that you were not carrying the virus by
transmitting it to somebody else. You could not transmit it
to others.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
But we know that's not accurate.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
It was at the time. Now what happened, yes and
day of twenty twenty one, that was happ That was
true for the alpha variant.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
You know there it is the lies just we're spinning
in all kinds of different directions. It's kind of like,
you know, asking your teenage child who has a curfew
at twelve midnight the next day you noticed that the
car engine still hot as you go by it in
the morning, it feels like it was just running and
it was like six am. And you ask your teenage child,
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were you late for your curfew you last night because
you were sleeping?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And the child says, yes, I was late.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
How late were you? Were you really late? Well, that's
generally true, I was late, dad. Generally generally speaking, I
was late. You know, this woman lied so many times
on so many topics, as did other CDC directors that
I lost count Doctor Brockman as to the lies, they said,
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of course you can't if you got to get the
You got to get the vaccine in order to stop
the infection. You can't infect anybody if you get it.
All of that was lies. Every single word coming out
of the CDC with respect to COVID and so many
other things have been complete fraud, covering the backsides of
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the pharmaceutical companies for their benefit. We'll talk more about this.
Have the breaks the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Stand by,
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all right, welcome, We welcome back to this hour the
Doctor Bob Martin's Show with me as my co host,
doctor Adam Brockman. He's standing by for comments on this
topic that we started out the hour discussing former CDC leaders,
slamming RFK Junior, the Health and Human Secretary as a
result of his firing and trying to clean house over
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at the CDC. A lot of cancer there with respect
to how they are the solely owned subsidiary. It seems
of the pharmaceutical companies. You know, it's like the wolf
guarding the hen house over there, the CDC all the
And what's really interesting about this is that most of
these CDC directors have been there. They find themselves with
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jobs immediately after leaving the CDC.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Some even have jobs with.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Big pharmao they before they're able to get into the CDC.
Talk about conflict of interest, you know, the CDC is
supposed to be protecting Americans, protecting our health, looking out
for our interests, where it just seems like they're looking
out only for the pharmaceutical industry's interests and the medical
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interest in general. I mean, how else would you explain
the fact that America we have one of the worst
healthcare records the systems on the planet, and yet we
spend the most And that of course is thanks to
a group of people, well, CDC, the AMA, the FDA,
the NIH in other words, the agency that are tasked
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or claimed to be overseers of the US healthcare system.
It's broken, that's what Robert F. Kennedy, Junior Health and
Human Secretary, is trying to fix. The US ranks dead
last in health and longevity compared to peer nations, particularly
concerning life expectancy, and most of you already know this.
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In a recent Commonwealth Fund study of ten wealthy countries,
the US health system ranked last overall, scoring lowest on
measures of health or outcome, despite spending more on healthcare
than any other nation. Now you tell me why we
need to clean house at the CDC. They have failed us,
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and it's been going on for decades. And at least
we have somebody now who is brave enough to step
up based on his understanding of what's been going on
at the CDC. And of course what they do is
they attack his credibility. They call him an anti vaxxer,
and he's he's danger to the system. How could you
be more dangerous to Americans when we have the worst longevity,
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We have so many chronic diseases, we do the most drugs,
and yet we get what for it. Well, we're the
lowest ranked country of all industrialized countries in terms of health.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So yes, Robert F.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Kennedy, go, we need to clean the house over at
the CDC reconstruct and get people in there who were
actually not bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical company.
All right, doctor Brockman, what do you have to say, sir?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well, going back to that testimony that we played the
audio clip of, you know which is it is covid,
it is the vaccine necessary to prevent it? Or I
mean people are still getting it? So I don't think
there was a clear answer of the doctor there what
she was saying, and and she fumbled a little bit
on that. And so here we are a few years
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later and there's still recommendations for this COVID vaccine. But
what what is what is the reference here? Where does
the CDC stan in today? And how have they fumbled
this so many years and still we're having this discussion,
doctor Bob.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Yeah, Well, we were told in order to compel people
to get the vaccine, we were told it was ninety
what four ninety three percent effective? If you get it,
you can't If you get the vaccine, you won't get COVID.
If you get the vaccine, you won't be able to
spread it to anybody else. We know that's just the opposite.
It's like twenty maybe maybe twenty percent effective either way.
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And you can, of course lunch you have the vaccine,
certainly spread it to others.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I mean, it's it's a joke.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
And now we see all.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
These people, the deaths that have been responsible for people
taking the COVID shot and the injuries that have occurred.
We're talking about hundreds of thousands of deaths have been
attributed many experts believe to persons getting COVID shots ill
advised decisions to get COVID shots. And then you have
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millions of people who are still railing with all all
kinds of health related problems and autoimmune diseases and heart
problems and long COVID who got the shot that their
quality of life now circles the drain. While the British
Medical Journal investigated the financial entanglement doctor Brockman between the
FDA and these drug industry chiefs. The investigation was published
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over at the British Medical Journal, and it raises concerns
about the financial entanglement. We've known this for a long
time and we know that the past out of the
past ten FDA commissioners, nine of them went on to
work in the drug industry or serve on the board
of directors of a drug company. And that includes Margaret Hamburg,
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who led the FDA from two thousand and nine to
twenty fifteen, but whose story is less well known. Now
it's finally coming to the surface. In fact, I keep
seeing doctor Brockman. This Scott Gottlieb. He's always in the news.
They're always going to him. One of the news channels
are going to him. Scott Gottlieb ran the FDA from
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twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. Then of course he left.
Where did he go? Right to Pfiser. He's on the
Pfiser boarding directors.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
He got the.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Big financial parachute coming out.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Of the FDA.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
They all do, Robert Calif, Steven Hahn, they all seem
to get these cushy, large jobs when they come out.
They call it the revolving door. In other words, as
soon as you get into the government and you're in there,
you have a great parachute over at big Pharma waiting
for you. So you best make sure that you meet
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our needs before you leave that building, or you won't
have a job.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
It's sick, and this is exactly why we need to
discuss why Robert F. Kennedy Junior is right to overhaul
the CDC, and Doctor Bob, I want to give a
little bit more background on this for the listeners that
may have seen all these stories that are coming out.
But the Center for Disease Control Imprevention, the CDC, it
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should be regarded as the gold standard of public health,
but in these recent years, I think its credibility has
crumbled under the weight of that political interference. You're talking
about the government bloat in these policy failures. So Health
and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior, he's demanding
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these sweeping reforms and his critics, like you mentioned, are
either blind to the agency's decay or they're complacent and
it's declined. So let's be clear. This isn't about partisan politics.
It's about restoring an institution that has lost its way.
The CDC. We've been talking about it's mishandling of COVID,
(18:47):
the flip flopping on a mask, the botching testing, and
enforcing school closures with no scientific justification. And I want
to get into that a little bit more because that's
definitely affected my kids. But all this proves that the
agency prioritized a political agenda over the public health. And
Kennedy isn't destroying the CDC like the critics are saying,
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He's saving it from itself. And I also want to
be clear, Kennedy didn't create this crisis. He inherited it.
And for decades, the CDC, like you mentioned, you've been
watching this for forty years, has been plagued by inefficiency, corruption,
and a dangerous disconnect from real world health outcomes. So again, folks,
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I want you to consider the COVID catastrophe that has
taken place. In the catastrophe, it's the agency at flip
flopped on the mask first claiming they were unnecessary, then
they're mandatory, and then they're unnecessary again. And it suppressed
early treatment options like ivermectin that is now being it
may be considered over the counter in Texas. We'll watch
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that closely as well. And due to political pressure, enforced
these lockdowns that cause irrepairable harm to children's education and
mental health, and all this while failing to protect nursing
home residents during that time. So why aren't we looking
at the chronic disease mismanagement, that obesity, the diabetes, and
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the heart disease. This kills millions annually, Yet the CDC
spends more time pushing ineffective fear campaigns than promoting nutrition
and prevention. And then the big pharma influence that you
talked about, the agencies their cozy relationship with pharmaceutical companies
that is undermining the public trust. From the opiate guidelines
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to vaccine mandates. The CDC too often acts as a
lobbying arm rather than an impartial health authority. So there's
so much more to say on this, Doctor Bob. So
we're going to revisit this after the break. We're coming
up on that, and listeners, if you got questions or
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We've been talking about Robert F. Kennedy and his and
his reform of the CDC in Doctor Bob. I think
I think Kennedy's diagnosis is spot on. The CDC. It
suffers from a systemic malaise and so you don't fix
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cancer with a band aid, you look to remove it.
And we mentioned briefly, But I also want to talk
about Susan Monarez. She isn't a martyr here like the
media is putting her out to be. She's part of
the problem. Monarez's refusal to step down is being framed
as some heroic stand for science. But let's examine her
(22:57):
record here. Under her watch. It's been brief, but the
CDC continued pushing outdated protocols that ignored natural immunity and
dismissed early treatment options in favor of these one size
fits all mandates and true science thrives on debate. Yet
Monarez presided over an agency that silenced doctors who question
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official narratives, just like during COVID when dissenting experts were
smeared as conspiracy theories. That sounds familiar, does that? Doctor Bob?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
And I'm science, Mom, Fauci, Who I am science? What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Uh huh yeah, don't uh don't uh, don't push back
against anything that he said right at that during that
time and this mass resignations there of the top officials
of the CDC reveal an institute resistant to change, one
where these career politicians are, these people involved with politics,
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They prioritize job security over reform. So Kennedy, he's not
targeting Monarez, He's holding her accountable for an agency that
has betrayed us in its mission. If she truly cared
about public health, she wouldn't claim to this power. She'd
support a fresh start. So doctor Bob, I want to
(24:18):
get your opinion on this. Monarez and her just camping
out at her office there at the CDC.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
No, it's just the same old, same all. I mean, look,
I would be I would.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Be thinking the same thing if the CDC's track record
was stellar and we outperformed other countries in terms of healthcare.
But the fact of the matter is the United States
spends the most unhealthcare. The United States is the most
medicated or drugged country, The United States has the most
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chronic diseases, and the United States has the shortest life
span of all industrialized nations. So you know, we're bad,
like zero on all of that. We get an F
as a grade, and we're wondering why someone is trying
to change it up to benefit the citizenry of the
(25:13):
United States, Americans our health. You know, you asked the question,
where in the world are kids the healthiest well, here's
the hint.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Not here in America.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I can tell you that, in fact, we get out
performed in terms of health and longevity for children and adults. Africa,
you know, Europe, everybody outperforms Americans in terms of health.
So you can't look at the CDC and say, well, gosh,
why on earth would we want to change anything over there?
It's really working. I mean, look, how many people in
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the United States are healthy. Look how much money we
don't spend compared to other countries with respect to pharmaceutical
drugs and health measures. It's just the opposite of that.
The US healthcare system is the least efficient in the world. Now,
if you had a Fortune one hundred country company, it
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couldn't be a Fortune one hundred company. If it was
the least efficient in its category. It would be out
of business. It would be bankrupt. So here we have
the United States the least efficient in the world, and
we're wondering why the CDC needs to be dismantled and
reassembled in the order of trying to make it so
(26:26):
that it's actually working for Americans rather than being a
clearinghouse for the pharmaceutical companies. I don't get why people
don't see this. But of course, you know, these people
are losing their jobs. They have had these cushy jobs
at the CDC, and nobody's been looking, you know, administering
any kind of reining them in as to the jobs
(26:48):
they're doing. The efficiency of it. Somebody comes along in
the Trump era, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who by the way,
is a Democrat, and he goes in there and looks
and he says, oh my gosh, well, so of course
what they're doing is naming him, you know, anti vax or.
You know, he's in there disrupting it. He needs to this,
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Someone needs to someone needs needed to do this decades ago,
and it didn't happen because it's business as usual.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
There's gold in.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Them, their ills, and therefore it just keeps benefiting the
pharmaceutical companies and conventional medicine in general. Why do conventional
medicine has tried to stop this, and they've been successful
with stopping this for decades. I mean, after all, they've
tried to put their competitors out of business. How would
you like to have just one healthcare system in the
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United States? How would you like to have like one
car company?
Speaker 4 (27:45):
You know, choose one.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
How would you like to have anything of one and
not have competition. Well, that's what the medical profession has
been doing well since the early nineteen hundreds. They've tried
to put everybody out of business who dared to compete
with them. And this is the same thing they know
at the CDC that when they start changing things up
and they start actually looking out for the consumers the
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American to make sure they're getting the best care, the
most conservative care at the right cost. Leave the emergency
stuff for conventional medicine. They do that well, we do
it well in the United States, but we don't do healthcare.
We do sick care here, we don't do health care.
And that's why for decades, probably since the early nineteen hundreds,
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the AMA and other political action committee groups have been
trying to put their competitors out of business. Initially the osteopaths,
the eclectics, the nature pass the chiropractors. They've always tried
to eliminate in very crude ways, very dastardly ways, their competition.
(28:53):
And luckily all of that was stopped. But here we
are with the same broken system that needs to be retooled.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's about time doctor Brockman.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, you're absolutely correct, and you made a good point there,
and you when you said that that Kennedy, the Kennedy
family has long been Democrats and uh, and then obviously
he's working for a Republican administration. But if you're looking
at this, and then he ran as an independent. But
if you're looking at this, this is very non partisan,
and I want to I want to discuss these critics
(29:23):
and why this is so important that this is nonpartisan
when we come back from break. So as we're head
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Saw your dad.
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I'm a bushem number signon.
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The one never Single a.
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Stoppable Today, Welcome back, doctor Adam Brockman here as we
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Speaker 3 (30:44):
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Spawn at the word doctor doctr bob dot com. Now,
Doctor Bob, let's get back into our conversation, and we
were discussing. I want to talk a little bit more
about critics and the critics they accuse Kennedy of making
(31:32):
the CDC political now, but his plan is rooted in
principles that are nonpartisan, like restoring transparency. The CDC must
release the raw data alongside recommendation so independent experts can
verify the findings. No more of this trust us. It
(31:53):
needs to be backed by studies that are not hidden
studies or industry funded research. And we need again take
the politics out of public health. Public health advice should
never change based on election cycles or media pressure. Remember
when mask mandates they vanished after midterms. Kennedy wants policies
(32:14):
based on facts, not this fear mongering. And we also
need to prioritize prevention over profits. Unlike past leadership which
greenlit junk food subsidies while scolding Americans for being obese,
Kennedy is champion nutrition education and medical schools, a shift
(32:35):
towards treating root causes instead of symptoms. I'm just wondering
why the backlash. It's because reform threatens the status quo.
The hysteria over Kennedy's overhaul isn't about science. It's about
a power struggle. So Doctor Bob, the media in this
(32:57):
the outlets now they're portraying the major outlets are portraying
Monarez as the saint. And they're the same ones who
spent years going after anyone who questioned these flawed COVID policies.
In what you mentioned the pharmaceutical interest. A transparent CDC
means fewer backroom deals with these drug companies. And we
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know that these drug companies they're going to fight tooth
and nail against this accountability. And then many many at
the CDC they care more about preserving their influence than
serving the taxpayers. These groups, they are not defending science,
They're defending their turf, doctor Bob.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yeah, it's just it's sort of like the same accusation
against our current president. How on earth could we have
allowed a businessman, a real estate investor, to become president
of the United States. Where's the political where's the politicians?
Same deal. They're criticizing Robert F. Kennedy Junior because he's
not a doctor, and now the temporary person he has
(34:03):
installed is temporary running the CDC. He's not a doctor. Well,
maybe they'll do a better job. When you think about
just how effective modern medicine is in general, doctor Brockman,
you look at it down deep. Only one in ten
of the drugs and treatments that anybody listening to the
sono my voice right today, any one of them your
(34:26):
medical doctor prescribes. One in ten of the drugs has
actually solid proof that it will actually work. They think
about thirty percent of medicine or drug therapy may not
work at all with very poor evidence that is effective,
so applying the most exacting of measures. Researchers from Oxford
(34:47):
University have discovered that the most most of medicine is
supported by only moderate to poor evidence, which throws into
question the vast sums invested in healthcare around the world
every year the US, we spend what trillions and trillions
of dollars on what they call health care. It's not healthcare,
(35:09):
it's really sick care. It's treating symptoms rather than causes.
Now without you know, and we're not here to bash
the medical profession. We're here to say the system's broken,
needs to be fixed, work on the areas that are
the weakness. The weakness is health care, not sick care.
We do a tremendous job. I believe the dedicated men
and women of medicine do a tremendous job. I'm talking
(35:32):
about those who are in the trenches of triage, emergency medicine,
surgeries that are from acute problems, fractures, bullet wounds, all
of that, and some of the innovations in some fields
of medicine are great, but when it comes to teaching
people how to be their own best doctors so they
don't need their doctors, we fall flat, as you know,
(35:53):
doctor Brockman. And that's the reason why this radio show exists.
It's the genesis of this radio show that started back
in the nineteen well, the nationwide show that we're doing
right now started in the nineteen nineties, mid nineteen nineties
and became syndicated and started to grow very fast because
why because there was such a need for it. People
(36:17):
need to hear an opposing view, They need to learn
how to take better care of themselves. Most of the
time they don't. Most people go to their doctor's office,
say what's your symptom. Okay, if you got something that's high,
I'll lower it. If you've got something that's low, I'll
raise that. I'll treat the symptom. And when the symptom
comes back, or you get symptoms from the drug, I'm
(36:38):
gonna give you which about the average drug has about
the potential for seventy adverse side effects, come back, and
I'll give you another drug. How is that healthcare helping
that person get to being well, it isn't, and that's
why we need this change. Thank goodness, doctor for Robert F.
Kennedy Junior in dismantling the CDC.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
We'll be right back. I'm doctor Bob Martin.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Welcome back, doctor Adam Brockman here, and you're tuned into
the Doctor Bob Martin Show. Well, folks, we've reached our
time today. We're going to sign off on another hour
and let's recap what we've learned in this explosive hour
about the CDC's plosion. First, Susan Monarez is still camped
(37:35):
out in her CDC office like it's some kind of
lobbyist sleepover. I hope they're saying there goodbyes. And meanwhile
RFK Junior keeps swinging his reform hammer like thor on
a mission to smash the pharmaceutical complex. And can we
talk about those resignations When your top disease detectives bail
(37:56):
mid investigation, that's not just turnover, that's a I have
alarm fire in the science lab. Now here's what's got
me fired up. These are the same folks who told
us trust the science are they're suddenly outraged when someone
wants to actually examine the science. That's like a chef
(38:17):
refusing to let you see the kitchen, probably because the
meat's been sitting out since twenty twenty, like COVID. But
let's get real. This isn't about politics. It's about your
grandma who couldn't get cancer treatment because hospitals were too
busy during COVID. It's about kids still struggling to read
(38:39):
because their schools were closed longer than most celebrity marriages.
It's about every American who deserves health policies based on
evidence and not ego. So here's my parting prescription. Keep
demanding that raw data, the science data that supports health
(39:01):
in support local clinics doing real preventive care, because here's
the ugly truth we uncover today. The CDC didn't just
fail us during COVID. It's been failing us for decades
on chronic disease, nutrition and real prevention. And if RFK
Junior's takeover makes just one lobbyist sweat over their six
(39:25):
figure salary, that's not chaos, that's progress. And thank you
everyone for listening, because every caller today proved Americans still
still they care deeply about real health freedom. So keep
those calls coming at eight hundred six zero six eight
eighty two to two, or visit doctor Bob dot com.
(39:45):
And most importantly, don't let anyone tell you to sit
down and shut up when it comes to your health,
because this is America, folks, where we don't just take
our medicine, we should demand to read the label first,
Doctor Bob, you have any closing thoughts.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
All good, Doctor Brockman.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I just want to have people stay tuned because we've
got an exciting hour next hour coming up, and then
in the third hour of the show today, we're going
to get into this very controversial topic about well, what
happened on August twenty seventh, another monster opened up open
fire on a church. Forty fourth school shooting this year,
(40:26):
Doctor Brockman. We got to investigate this. We're going to
talk about this. I don't want anybody to miss out
on that. That's the third hour of the show today.
Don't go anywhere I think you're going to be surprised
to hear. Well, we've uncovered about shooters in general, mass shooters.
That is all right, stay with us. You're tuned into
the Doctor Bob Martin Show.
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