June 12, 2024 • 27 mins
In this episode, Dr. David Hanscom continues his discussion with Senior Feldenkrais Trainer David Zemach-Bersin. He discusses the two aspects of the Feldenkrais method, which include physical work in the office and lessons for home practice. He guides the listener through a movement exercise, emphasizing the importance of reducing effort, observing sensations, and maintaining a pleasurable experience. Throughout the demonstration, he emphasizes the connection between movement and sensory awareness, and the potential for healing through the Feldenkrais method. He also discusses the importance of adopting techniques to calm the body and mind, particularly in managing anxiety and stress, highlighting the role of letting go and in the process helping rewire neurological circuits. David Zemach-Bersin is a Senior Feldenkrais Trainer who has studied and expanded upon the work of Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais for over 50 years. He studied directly with Dr. Feldenkrais in Europe, the USA and Israel for over ten years. With the onset of Covid in 2020, he co-founded FeldenkraisAccess.com, with the intention to bring the incredible benefits of the Feldenkrais Method to everyone wishing to improve, and lead a more comfortable, pain free life. David has taught all over the world and lives in Connecticut with his wife, Kaethe. For more information, visit www.feldenkraisaccess.com.Pain, Chronic Pain, Healing,
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(00:04):
Hello, and welcome to Back inControl Radio with Doctor David Hanscombe. Hello
everybody, and welcome to another episodeof Back in Control Radio with Doctor David
Hanscomb. I'm your host, Mastersand our guest today is David Ziemock Person.
(00:26):
He's a senior Felden Craze trainer whohas studied and expanded upon the work
of doctor Moshe Felden Craze for overfifty years. He has taught his method
all over the world, and intwenty twenty he co founded Feldencrazeaccess dot Com
with the intention of bringing the benefitsof the Felden Craze method to everyone wishing
(00:47):
to improve and lead a more comfortable, pain free life. Welcome, Thank
you, Tom, I, thankyou. Welcome David zamak Urson back to
the podcast today. Is a seniorfell in Christ trainer who has studied and
expanded upon the work of doctor Moshefelt in Christ for over fifty years.
He studied directly doctor fell in Christin Europe, the USA and Israel for
(01:08):
over ten years with the onset ofCode. In twenty twenty, he co
founded felt in Christsaccess dot Com withthe intention to bring the incredible benefits of
the Failing Christ's method to everyone wishingto improve did a more comfortable and pain
free life. David has taught allover the world. Is in Connecticut with
his wife Kathy and David. Welcomeback to the podcast. I really enjoyed
(01:30):
our first conversation. I have alreadymarkedly expanded my understanding felt in Christ.
And so what David's going to do? I challenged him to get me to
relax, which is sort of afeat in of itself, but I will
satiz just in two sentences you canadd on to this day that basically fail
in Christ is a way of takinghabituated neurological circuits and created different slow movements
(01:55):
to basically calm things down and reroutethe brain. And those of you that
have heard me over the years,I understanding that healing occurs with creativity away
from the paint circrets. We tryto fix these paint cercrets, you actually
reinforce it, and so this isa very paradoxical process. And again,
just for the first podcast, I'mexcited about this because it appears me philn.
(02:16):
Christ is a pretty simple way ofcalming yourself down and rerouting the nervous
system. Did I say that right, David, good enough, good enough?
Okay, yeah, yeah, goodenough means I must have missed something.
What did I miss there? No, no, nothing, nothing I
wish to correct. Not at all, not at all. It was a
very simplistic view. But I willsay in orthopedics we just take stuff like
(02:38):
this and sort of toss them asidebecause it's not surgical. And certainly,
by the way, it's just atool, not a solution. And the
number one thing to actually heal isto calm yourself down. So, David,
before you take me through a FeldonChrist session, he briefly explained again
in a quick summary of what feiledin Christ is what it does, Weldon
(03:00):
Price, is a methodology for that'savailable to everyone, accessible to everyone,
everyone, no matter your age,no matter the challenge you have, whether
you identify your difficulty as psychological,emotional, or physical, you can benefit
(03:23):
from the Feldon Prist's method. Andit's an approach to using using slow,
simple movement to access the learning centers, the centers for change, the parts
of our brain that are necessary tointerrupt these very strong patterns of anxiety,
(03:47):
of pain, of organization very simply, and I suggest that we do say
maybe ten twelve minutes or so ofan example, lessons are usually forty to
(04:10):
fifty sixty minutes, so you'll haveto understand that we're just doing a little,
a little taste, a little orderof a lesson. Okay, great.
By the way, you can accesshis materials at Building christaccess dot com.
And yes, he teaches. He'sbeen around for he's taught for a
(04:31):
very long time. And my quickquestion, I was curious which doctor feld
in Christ like you met him personally? What? What? What was he
like? I mean, what gavehim these insights which I'm rather impressed with.
Well, you he synthesized from uhdisparate fields. He firstly, he
(04:55):
was he was brilliant. He wasa very we'll just give you a one
minute version. He was a veryvery high ranking physicist at the Curee Institute
in Paris at the Sorbonne for manyyears and was very instrumental in many worked
(05:15):
with Juliet Cried directly. They publishedpapers together. And yet he had these
other interests in psychology and in movement. He was the highest ranking Caucasian in
judo in France and created the JudoClub of France. He so he was
(05:42):
synthesizing his perceptions as a physicist,as an engineer, a mechanical engineer.
Looking and likely you could say hepredates what we today call biomechanics, what
today we call kinesiology. So hepredates all these things. But those things
are a combination, right of engineeringin physics with the movement of the human
(06:09):
body. So he was doing thatthinking in along those lines already in literally
the nineteen thirties. And wow,he was a physicist. He started out
as a physicist, then that's amazing, that's right. But he was so
passionate about helping people, so obsessedwith these ideas that he was melding,
(06:32):
you could say, and the insightsthat he had, that he quit physics
in the mid about I think aboutnineteen fifty seven fifty eight, and dedicated
the rest of his life to presentingthis work. I would task you.
So, the reason why we usedslow movement is we want to stimulate the
(06:56):
parasympathy and our nervous system, whichis the comming system, as opposed to
the simple that nervous system, whichis excitatory. We're trapped by anything,
particularly pain, your body's on fire, You're simply system is fired. Of
is a feeling of anxiety. Soas well as physical pain, you're also
dealing with mental pain, which againis the way this whole process works anyway.
(07:16):
Okay, so I'm in and wecould say that's right, we could
say they're using the same loops.Yeah, there's there's not an infinite number
of primary loops. And I'm surewe would find that that physical when I
when I tell you, oh,I feel physical pain and it's killing me
and every and I can't sleep atnight, we would find the same pathways
(07:40):
are being accessed as when I tellyou, oh, I'm so anxious I
can't sleep at night. Well,I don't want to go too deep here
today, but it turns out thatemotional pain, physical pain and process in
similar manners. It just goes tolimit systems as danger. So everything creature
has it, but human a complicateby language. We cannot escape your thoughts,
(08:03):
and so it's happened in mental health. We're trying to deal with the
thoughts after they're fired up reflecting theirbrain. As long as the brains fired
up, these thoughts are going tokeep flying out like crazy. Than the
thoughts are up the brain, youhave to calm down the brain. Otherwise
these thoughts will keep flying out.You got it, So you know this
mental pain is a big problem.And so again we deal with the thoughts
after they're out in the wild.The reality is, look at the source
(08:28):
is a fired up nervous system.So anyway, I'm in your office and
here I am. Okay. Well, one small distinction, David, is
that there are two aspects of thefelt in Christ method, and I'm sure
you wouldn't have expected anything less.One aspect is you would come to my
office and you would lie on mytable, okay, and I would move
(08:50):
you, and and that would takeabout I would move you and still with
the same fun the mental principles,but it would be me as a conduit,
so to speak. And this aspectof the work is especially valuable when
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people have serious physical challenges. Theother aspect of the work, the Feldon
prist lessons that he called later inhis life, he called awareness through Movement,
and there's a book that he wrotewith that title. And those are
lessons that you can do on yourown at home. Now, as I
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mentioned most lessons and ideally we're lyingon the floor, but we're not going
to do that today because I wantyour listeners to all have a successful experience
and be able to move. Soplease come and sit on the forward edge
(09:58):
of your chair. Hey, andplease come sit on the forward edge of
your chair. Okay, just maybean inch or so two inches from the
edge of the chair. Your feetare standing on the floor, separated,
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maybe about shoulder width. Your feetare flat, the heels of your feet
are under your knees. You coulddraw an imaginary line from your knees down
and it would pass through the backpart of your foot. And now just
observe the contact of your pelvis witha chair. And just observe your breathing.
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You don't need to do anything tochange your breathing. Just observe yourself
breathing in and breathing out. Andnow I'm going to tell you some guidelines.
We're going to use. One.We want to reduce as much effort
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as we can. We're not interestedto achieve anything. We're not interested even
to learn anything. We're not interested. To strive to increase our range of
movement, as it's called, andto do the movement slowly. And by
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doing the movement slowly, you'll seethat it gives your nervous system the time
to extract information. So now,just very slowly turn yourself, your head,
your eyes, your chest a littlebit to the left. And as
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soon as you feel that there's aqualitative change, and I'll say what I
mean, you come back to themiddle. What I mean is that you
turn. Oh, only the littlebit to the left that you find is
completely simple and there's almost a uniformityin the in your effort. In other
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words, that you've you turn tothe left, and then you feel to
go further, you would have tomobilize yourself. Don't mobilize yourself. Just
come back. We're going to you'llimprove, you'll see further to the left,
but not by striving, not byincreasing your effort. All right,
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Now do this as you exhale,and see if you can feel that one
shoulder is going backwards and one shoulderis going forward. That's all. You
just observe that we're taking a basic, basic function, what turning, and
then come back to the middle.And now, and now as you do
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that, open your eyes and seeif you can look along the horizon as
you turn to the left. So, in other words, rather than looking
up toward the ceiling or down towardthe floor. See if you can keep
your eyes on an imaginary horizon,that's good. And you go very slowly
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and feel, where can I reducemy effort in your shoulders, in your
jaw, See if you can allowyour lower teeth to be separated from your
upper teeth. And you exhale asyou turn and come back to the middle.
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And now this time, keep youreyes looking forward. So you keep
your eyes looking forward as you turnyour head, and just to the left,
everything turns to the left, justas it's been. But you keep
your eyes fixed forward. And you'llsee that. Some of you will have
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some difficulty doing that, a challengedoing that, but the key is to
not struggle and to only turn thelittle bit that you can, keeping your
eyes oriented towards the wall in frontof you, like make an imaginary spot
on the wall in front of yourself, and you keep looking at that,
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and that restricts the movement of yourhead, everyone's head. And then you
come back. Of course, there'sno need to stay turned to the left.
You just come back and you'll seethat. Now if you turn your
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head and eyes to the left,are you seeing maybe five degrees further?
Maybe that's good. Now, comeback to the middle, and I'm sorry,
I wouldn't ordinarily teach in this kindof rapid way. Now, just
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make a small movement of moving yourright knee a little forward so you can
put your hand on your right kneeand you feel, oh, yes,
I can feel that my patella isgoing that your kneecap, I'm sorry,
is going forward. And that's allyou do that slowly feel where you can
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reduce your effort, and you comeback. You pause for a moment.
Why we pause, because we're notinterested in repetitive movement, and then take
your right knee forward again and again. I suggest you have your right hand
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there on your right thigh so youcan get the feedback that's available to you.
And if you close your eyes fora moment, you'll feel that your
right hip is going forward, notthat you do anything differently, but by
when you move your right knee forward, your femur, the long bone of
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your thigh is moving forward. That'sright, and you can feel that.
Now. One thing that we knowabout pain and anxiety is that our body
image becomes constricted. So you'll seethat we're building or rebuilding, but only
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we're rebuilding our body image and ourability to contact ourselves, but only in
a way that's pleasurable. So that'sa very important point. You don't want
to do the slightest thing that givesyou discomfort. So if you have if
you have pain in your right hipjoint, well maybe you make the movement
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what ninety percent smaller? All right, Now, let's combine taking your right
knee forward and turning your head andeyes to the left, and see if
something is different. If you combinemoving your right knee forward and turning your
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head and eyes to the left,good and come back. You always come
back. You just turn. There'sthe information, the sensory kinesthetic information that
we're interested in, is happening duringthe movement, not in staying still.
That's it. We could talk foran hour about the distinction between metaation and
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a Felton Christ lesson. Now dothe following. See if you can keep
your head fixed in the middle andyou just turn your chest and shoulders to
the left, so you just turnyour your chest, your torso, and
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your shoulders, but your head andeyes stay in the middle. That interesting.
That's called differentiation. Differentiating your headand your eyes from the movement of
your chest and shoulders. And that'svery invigorating to your brain because it there
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are certain parts of your brain thatare attracted to anything that's new. Just
like a cat. You ever seena cat come in a room and if
there's something in the room, whatdoes it do? Bristles if it's anxious,
but if it's not, it'll goimmediately to the rub itself all over
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the new object. Right, Okay, and now think of your right knee
going forward, and turn your headand eyes to the left, and your
torso and your shoulders, and justnotice as you exhale still, that was
beautiful, very nice. Come backto the middle and just pause for a
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moment, and now we'll just doa couple more variations. So now as
you turn to the left again consciouslymeans intentionally, I think, move your
right shoulder a little forward and yourleft shoulder a little back. So we're
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going to build up this image ofwhat we're doing and come back and you
do that as you exhale, andyou feel where you can let go of
muscular effort at the same time asyou're moving. So that's that's a key
ingredient. You're letting go and movingat the same time. You're sensing yourself
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and moving at the same time,and only in a way that's pleasurable.
That's easy where you can say,yeah, this is this is all right,
this is this is nice, thisis pleasant. And are you still
relaxing your mouth and your jaw.That's it, that's very nice. Now
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you see how few movements each variationhas been what I don't know, three
four movements? Right, and nowtake your right knee forward and notice how
far are you seeing on your imaginaryarrives And now that's right, very nice.
Yeah, I don't know if thisis the intention. I could certainly
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look a lot farther left than Idid when I started, like I felt
like about one yeah, much morewithout any intention at all. So you
just made a comment call my attention. I mean the healing. There's two
parts of healing. One of themis actually learning to live with your anxiety
and frustration. Now we should changethe relationship to it now as you let
go, because you can't move forwarduntil you let go. So if you're
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doing positive thinking in order to counteractthe negativity, you're going to lose.
As you learn to let go,then you can move forward and create the
brain that you want. That's it. You've taken away what the way doctor
following Christ would phrase it, andI think it's completely accurate. You've you've
taken any go back to that Sherringtonremark. I mentioned right that that movement
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is the common pathway for all physiologicalsystems. That you've taken away, David,
You've taken away the foundation of thatdistressed feeling of anxiety. Right,
distressed feeling is in that of coursethere I'm not I'm not saying there aren't
(22:26):
hormonal changes and cortico steroids and etcetera. I'm not. I'm not denying
that, but I think that somuch of that that that that you've taken
away the foundation of that, thatmobilization, right, you've taken when you're
brained under stress, your whole body'stight hormones are going through the ceiling.
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And clearly when you reverse that processingand the I mean your brain's taken the
century input if you sentially put histension, why it builds on a cell
ex If your center inputs slow andcalm, and you've changed the centry input,
you're calming things down. So reallyyou can intersect with the system in
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multiple places. But if we understandthat the muscular component is in fact,
maybe the most significant of those thatsystem, and you take away that that
or I shouldn't say take away becausethey're not really taking away. We've got
(23:33):
to be careful with our language,don't we. But if you give the
person, you provide them with thepossibility of another option. Right, Well,
from my perspective, it looks likea very interesting and relevant entry point
into healing. And then it lookslike ongoing reprogramming is also part of the
(23:55):
key here. Not very hard,and it's fascinating. I just had never
really interested the theory behind this tillthe day, and I didn't know that
tapter Fellow Grice was a physicist andpretty big renaissance guy. My goodness,
the guy was brilliant in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, really really interesting
stuff. So, for those ofyou on listening to this podcast, the
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human bodies complicated. Your body functionsincredibly well, is incredibly complex, and
so sometimes occur with dysfunction, andso in medicine we've got focused on structure,
not so much on function or physiology. So this is the way I've
actually directly addressed the physiology of yourbody. Calming things down and rerunning neurological
(24:44):
circuits, which is the healing journey. And I honestly didn't realize until today
about the role of it plays inanxiety. That's a big one. Anxiety
is universal, but you know,for many people's disruptive. So this calming
technique who were running technique, Ithink incredibly interesting. So can you tell
us again how to access your materialsor your resources? Yeah, sure,
(25:11):
we authored I and my wife authoreda book called Relaxer Size that you can
find on Amazon or in your bookstore, published by Harper Collins. But we
did that quite some time ago.But the little example that we did in
these past ten minutes that actually youcan find a fuller embodiment of that those
(25:40):
few minutes in that book. Andthe felden Christ Access is a place where
I have for the last four years, almost five years now, been recording
my work, filming my work andwith it with a beautiful team of people
advocated to that. And it's allthere, and it's all waiting for you,
(26:08):
and and David and Tom will provideyou with a discount coupon if you
like, Okay or any material atFelding And there's also lots of free lessons.
I should mention that that I haveI don't know, somewhere on the
(26:30):
order of twenty or thirty free FeldonChrist Movement lessons on YouTube and at feld
in Christ's Access. Fantastic. Well, the world certainly needs to calm down,
so I appreciate that. Well,David, again, it's been great
talking to you, meeting you,and I'm looking forward to staying in touch
going forward. And thank you verymuch. Did a thank you so much.
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I'd like to thank our guest Davidfor being the show today and providing
a demonstration of how the Felden Crazemethod works and discussing why it is such
a powerful feeling modality. I'm yourhost, Tom Masters, reminding you to
be back next week for another episodeof Back in Control Radio with Doctor David
Hanscombe, and in the meantime,be sure to visit the website at www
(27:21):
dot backincontrol dot com. Thanks forlistening today and join us next week for
Back in Control Radium
Hello, and welcome to Back inControl Radio with Doctor David Hanscombe. Hello
everybody, and welcome to another episodeof Back in Control Radio with Doctor David
Hanscomb. I'm your host, Mastersand our guest today is David Ziemock Person.
(00:26):
He's a senior Felden Craze trainer whohas studied and expanded upon the work
of doctor Moshe Felden Craze for overfifty years. He has taught his method
all over the world, and intwenty twenty he co founded Feldencrazeaccess dot Com
with the intention of bringing the benefitsof the Felden Craze method to everyone wishing
(00:47):
to improve and lead a more comfortable, pain free life. Welcome, Thank
you, Tom, I, thankyou. Welcome David zamak Urson back to
the podcast today. Is a seniorfell in Christ trainer who has studied and
expanded upon the work of doctor Moshefelt in Christ for over fifty years.
He studied directly doctor fell in Christin Europe, the USA and Israel for
(01:08):
over ten years with the onset ofCode. In twenty twenty, he co
founded felt in Christsaccess dot Com withthe intention to bring the incredible benefits of
the Failing Christ's method to everyone wishingto improve did a more comfortable and pain
free life. David has taught allover the world. Is in Connecticut with
his wife Kathy and David. Welcomeback to the podcast. I really enjoyed
(01:30):
our first conversation. I have alreadymarkedly expanded my understanding felt in Christ.
And so what David's going to do? I challenged him to get me to
relax, which is sort of afeat in of itself, but I will
satiz just in two sentences you canadd on to this day that basically fail
in Christ is a way of takinghabituated neurological circuits and created different slow movements
(01:55):
to basically calm things down and reroutethe brain. And those of you that
have heard me over the years,I understanding that healing occurs with creativity away
from the paint circrets. We tryto fix these paint cercrets, you actually
reinforce it, and so this isa very paradoxical process. And again,
just for the first podcast, I'mexcited about this because it appears me philn.
(02:16):
Christ is a pretty simple way ofcalming yourself down and rerouting the nervous
system. Did I say that right, David, good enough, good enough?
Okay, yeah, yeah, goodenough means I must have missed something.
What did I miss there? No, no, nothing, nothing I
wish to correct. Not at all, not at all. It was a
very simplistic view. But I willsay in orthopedics we just take stuff like
(02:38):
this and sort of toss them asidebecause it's not surgical. And certainly,
by the way, it's just atool, not a solution. And the
number one thing to actually heal isto calm yourself down. So, David,
before you take me through a FeldonChrist session, he briefly explained again
in a quick summary of what feiledin Christ is what it does, Weldon
(03:00):
Price, is a methodology for that'savailable to everyone, accessible to everyone,
everyone, no matter your age,no matter the challenge you have, whether
you identify your difficulty as psychological,emotional, or physical, you can benefit
(03:23):
from the Feldon Prist's method. Andit's an approach to using using slow,
simple movement to access the learning centers, the centers for change, the parts
of our brain that are necessary tointerrupt these very strong patterns of anxiety,
(03:47):
of pain, of organization very simply, and I suggest that we do say
maybe ten twelve minutes or so ofan example, lessons are usually forty to
(04:10):
fifty sixty minutes, so you'll haveto understand that we're just doing a little,
a little taste, a little orderof a lesson. Okay, great.
By the way, you can accesshis materials at Building christaccess dot com.
And yes, he teaches. He'sbeen around for he's taught for a
(04:31):
very long time. And my quickquestion, I was curious which doctor feld
in Christ like you met him personally? What? What? What was he
like? I mean, what gavehim these insights which I'm rather impressed with.
Well, you he synthesized from uhdisparate fields. He firstly, he
(04:55):
was he was brilliant. He wasa very we'll just give you a one
minute version. He was a veryvery high ranking physicist at the Curee Institute
in Paris at the Sorbonne for manyyears and was very instrumental in many worked
(05:15):
with Juliet Cried directly. They publishedpapers together. And yet he had these
other interests in psychology and in movement. He was the highest ranking Caucasian in
judo in France and created the JudoClub of France. He so he was
(05:42):
synthesizing his perceptions as a physicist,as an engineer, a mechanical engineer.
Looking and likely you could say hepredates what we today call biomechanics, what
today we call kinesiology. So hepredates all these things. But those things
are a combination, right of engineeringin physics with the movement of the human
(06:09):
body. So he was doing thatthinking in along those lines already in literally
the nineteen thirties. And wow,he was a physicist. He started out
as a physicist, then that's amazing, that's right. But he was so
passionate about helping people, so obsessedwith these ideas that he was melding,
(06:32):
you could say, and the insightsthat he had, that he quit physics
in the mid about I think aboutnineteen fifty seven fifty eight, and dedicated
the rest of his life to presentingthis work. I would task you.
So, the reason why we usedslow movement is we want to stimulate the
(06:56):
parasympathy and our nervous system, whichis the comming system, as opposed to
the simple that nervous system, whichis excitatory. We're trapped by anything,
particularly pain, your body's on fire, You're simply system is fired. Of
is a feeling of anxiety. Soas well as physical pain, you're also
dealing with mental pain, which againis the way this whole process works anyway.
(07:16):
Okay, so I'm in and wecould say that's right, we could
say they're using the same loops.Yeah, there's there's not an infinite number
of primary loops. And I'm surewe would find that that physical when I
when I tell you, oh,I feel physical pain and it's killing me
and every and I can't sleep atnight, we would find the same pathways
(07:40):
are being accessed as when I tellyou, oh, I'm so anxious I
can't sleep at night. Well,I don't want to go too deep here
today, but it turns out thatemotional pain, physical pain and process in
similar manners. It just goes tolimit systems as danger. So everything creature
has it, but human a complicateby language. We cannot escape your thoughts,
(08:03):
and so it's happened in mental health. We're trying to deal with the
thoughts after they're fired up reflecting theirbrain. As long as the brains fired
up, these thoughts are going tokeep flying out like crazy. Than the
thoughts are up the brain, youhave to calm down the brain. Otherwise
these thoughts will keep flying out.You got it, So you know this
mental pain is a big problem.And so again we deal with the thoughts
after they're out in the wild.The reality is, look at the source
(08:28):
is a fired up nervous system.So anyway, I'm in your office and
here I am. Okay. Well, one small distinction, David, is
that there are two aspects of thefelt in Christ method, and I'm sure
you wouldn't have expected anything less.One aspect is you would come to my
office and you would lie on mytable, okay, and I would move
(08:50):
you, and and that would takeabout I would move you and still with
the same fun the mental principles,but it would be me as a conduit,
so to speak. And this aspectof the work is especially valuable when
(09:11):
people have serious physical challenges. Theother aspect of the work, the Feldon
prist lessons that he called later inhis life, he called awareness through Movement,
and there's a book that he wrotewith that title. And those are
lessons that you can do on yourown at home. Now, as I
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mentioned most lessons and ideally we're lyingon the floor, but we're not going
to do that today because I wantyour listeners to all have a successful experience
and be able to move. Soplease come and sit on the forward edge
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of your chair. Hey, andplease come sit on the forward edge of
your chair. Okay, just maybean inch or so two inches from the
edge of the chair. Your feetare standing on the floor, separated,
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maybe about shoulder width. Your feetare flat, the heels of your feet
are under your knees. You coulddraw an imaginary line from your knees down
and it would pass through the backpart of your foot. And now just
observe the contact of your pelvis witha chair. And just observe your breathing.
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You don't need to do anything tochange your breathing. Just observe yourself
breathing in and breathing out. Andnow I'm going to tell you some guidelines.
We're going to use. One.We want to reduce as much effort
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as we can. We're not interestedto achieve anything. We're not interested even
to learn anything. We're not interested. To strive to increase our range of
movement, as it's called, andto do the movement slowly. And by
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doing the movement slowly, you'll seethat it gives your nervous system the time
to extract information. So now,just very slowly turn yourself, your head,
your eyes, your chest a littlebit to the left. And as
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soon as you feel that there's aqualitative change, and I'll say what I
mean, you come back to themiddle. What I mean is that you
turn. Oh, only the littlebit to the left that you find is
completely simple and there's almost a uniformityin the in your effort. In other
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words, that you've you turn tothe left, and then you feel to
go further, you would have tomobilize yourself. Don't mobilize yourself. Just
come back. We're going to you'llimprove, you'll see further to the left,
but not by striving, not byincreasing your effort. All right,
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Now do this as you exhale,and see if you can feel that one
shoulder is going backwards and one shoulderis going forward. That's all. You
just observe that we're taking a basic, basic function, what turning, and
then come back to the middle.And now, and now as you do
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that, open your eyes and seeif you can look along the horizon as
you turn to the left. So, in other words, rather than looking
up toward the ceiling or down towardthe floor. See if you can keep
your eyes on an imaginary horizon,that's good. And you go very slowly
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and feel, where can I reducemy effort in your shoulders, in your
jaw, See if you can allowyour lower teeth to be separated from your
upper teeth. And you exhale asyou turn and come back to the middle.
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And now this time, keep youreyes looking forward. So you keep
your eyes looking forward as you turnyour head, and just to the left,
everything turns to the left, justas it's been. But you keep
your eyes fixed forward. And you'llsee that. Some of you will have
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some difficulty doing that, a challengedoing that, but the key is to
not struggle and to only turn thelittle bit that you can, keeping your
eyes oriented towards the wall in frontof you, like make an imaginary spot
on the wall in front of yourself, and you keep looking at that,
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and that restricts the movement of yourhead, everyone's head. And then you
come back. Of course, there'sno need to stay turned to the left.
You just come back and you'll seethat. Now if you turn your
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head and eyes to the left,are you seeing maybe five degrees further?
Maybe that's good. Now, comeback to the middle, and I'm sorry,
I wouldn't ordinarily teach in this kindof rapid way. Now, just
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make a small movement of moving yourright knee a little forward so you can
put your hand on your right kneeand you feel, oh, yes,
I can feel that my patella isgoing that your kneecap, I'm sorry,
is going forward. And that's allyou do that slowly feel where you can
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reduce your effort, and you comeback. You pause for a moment.
Why we pause, because we're notinterested in repetitive movement, and then take
your right knee forward again and again. I suggest you have your right hand
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there on your right thigh so youcan get the feedback that's available to you.
And if you close your eyes fora moment, you'll feel that your
right hip is going forward, notthat you do anything differently, but by
when you move your right knee forward, your femur, the long bone of
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your thigh is moving forward. That'sright, and you can feel that.
Now. One thing that we knowabout pain and anxiety is that our body
image becomes constricted. So you'll seethat we're building or rebuilding, but only
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we're rebuilding our body image and ourability to contact ourselves, but only in
a way that's pleasurable. So that'sa very important point. You don't want
to do the slightest thing that givesyou discomfort. So if you have if
you have pain in your right hipjoint, well maybe you make the movement
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what ninety percent smaller? All right, Now, let's combine taking your right
knee forward and turning your head andeyes to the left, and see if
something is different. If you combinemoving your right knee forward and turning your
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head and eyes to the left,good and come back. You always come
back. You just turn. There'sthe information, the sensory kinesthetic information that
we're interested in, is happening duringthe movement, not in staying still.
That's it. We could talk foran hour about the distinction between metaation and
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a Felton Christ lesson. Now dothe following. See if you can keep
your head fixed in the middle andyou just turn your chest and shoulders to
the left, so you just turnyour your chest, your torso, and
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your shoulders, but your head andeyes stay in the middle. That interesting.
That's called differentiation. Differentiating your headand your eyes from the movement of
your chest and shoulders. And that'svery invigorating to your brain because it there
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are certain parts of your brain thatare attracted to anything that's new. Just
like a cat. You ever seena cat come in a room and if
there's something in the room, whatdoes it do? Bristles if it's anxious,
but if it's not, it'll goimmediately to the rub itself all over
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the new object. Right, Okay, and now think of your right knee
going forward, and turn your headand eyes to the left, and your
torso and your shoulders, and justnotice as you exhale still, that was
beautiful, very nice. Come backto the middle and just pause for a
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moment, and now we'll just doa couple more variations. So now as
you turn to the left again consciouslymeans intentionally, I think, move your
right shoulder a little forward and yourleft shoulder a little back. So we're
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going to build up this image ofwhat we're doing and come back and you
do that as you exhale, andyou feel where you can let go of
muscular effort at the same time asyou're moving. So that's that's a key
ingredient. You're letting go and movingat the same time. You're sensing yourself
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and moving at the same time,and only in a way that's pleasurable.
That's easy where you can say,yeah, this is this is all right,
this is this is nice, thisis pleasant. And are you still
relaxing your mouth and your jaw.That's it, that's very nice. Now
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you see how few movements each variationhas been what I don't know, three
four movements? Right, and nowtake your right knee forward and notice how
far are you seeing on your imaginaryarrives And now that's right, very nice.
Yeah, I don't know if thisis the intention. I could certainly
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look a lot farther left than Idid when I started, like I felt
like about one yeah, much morewithout any intention at all. So you
just made a comment call my attention. I mean the healing. There's two
parts of healing. One of themis actually learning to live with your anxiety
and frustration. Now we should changethe relationship to it now as you let
go, because you can't move forwarduntil you let go. So if you're
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doing positive thinking in order to counteractthe negativity, you're going to lose.
As you learn to let go,then you can move forward and create the
brain that you want. That's it. You've taken away what the way doctor
following Christ would phrase it, andI think it's completely accurate. You've you've
taken any go back to that Sherringtonremark. I mentioned right that that movement
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is the common pathway for all physiologicalsystems. That you've taken away, David,
You've taken away the foundation of thatdistressed feeling of anxiety. Right,
distressed feeling is in that of coursethere I'm not I'm not saying there aren't
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hormonal changes and cortico steroids and etcetera. I'm not. I'm not denying
that, but I think that somuch of that that that that you've taken
away the foundation of that, thatmobilization, right, you've taken when you're
brained under stress, your whole body'stight hormones are going through the ceiling.
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And clearly when you reverse that processingand the I mean your brain's taken the
century input if you sentially put histension, why it builds on a cell
ex If your center inputs slow andcalm, and you've changed the centry input,
you're calming things down. So reallyyou can intersect with the system in
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multiple places. But if we understandthat the muscular component is in fact,
maybe the most significant of those thatsystem, and you take away that that
or I shouldn't say take away becausethey're not really taking away. We've got
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to be careful with our language,don't we. But if you give the
person, you provide them with thepossibility of another option. Right, Well,
from my perspective, it looks likea very interesting and relevant entry point
into healing. And then it lookslike ongoing reprogramming is also part of the
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key here. Not very hard,and it's fascinating. I just had never
really interested the theory behind this tillthe day, and I didn't know that
tapter Fellow Grice was a physicist andpretty big renaissance guy. My goodness,
the guy was brilliant in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, really really interesting
stuff. So, for those ofyou on listening to this podcast, the
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human bodies complicated. Your body functionsincredibly well, is incredibly complex, and
so sometimes occur with dysfunction, andso in medicine we've got focused on structure,
not so much on function or physiology. So this is the way I've
actually directly addressed the physiology of yourbody. Calming things down and rerunning neurological
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circuits, which is the healing journey. And I honestly didn't realize until today
about the role of it plays inanxiety. That's a big one. Anxiety
is universal, but you know,for many people's disruptive. So this calming
technique who were running technique, Ithink incredibly interesting. So can you tell
us again how to access your materialsor your resources? Yeah, sure,
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we authored I and my wife authoreda book called Relaxer Size that you can
find on Amazon or in your bookstore, published by Harper Collins. But we
did that quite some time ago.But the little example that we did in
these past ten minutes that actually youcan find a fuller embodiment of that those
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few minutes in that book. Andthe felden Christ Access is a place where
I have for the last four years, almost five years now, been recording
my work, filming my work andwith it with a beautiful team of people
advocated to that. And it's allthere, and it's all waiting for you,
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and and David and Tom will provideyou with a discount coupon if you
like, Okay or any material atFelding And there's also lots of free lessons.
I should mention that that I haveI don't know, somewhere on the
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order of twenty or thirty free FeldonChrist Movement lessons on YouTube and at feld
in Christ's Access. Fantastic. Well, the world certainly needs to calm down,
so I appreciate that. Well,David, again, it's been great
talking to you, meeting you,and I'm looking forward to staying in touch
going forward. And thank you verymuch. Did a thank you so much.
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I'd like to thank our guest Davidfor being the show today and providing
a demonstration of how the Felden Crazemethod works and discussing why it is such
a powerful feeling modality. I'm yourhost, Tom Masters, reminding you to
be back next week for another episodeof Back in Control Radio with Doctor David
Hanscombe, and in the meantime,be sure to visit the website at www
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dot backincontrol dot com. Thanks forlistening today and join us next week for
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