August 21, 2025 • 15 mins
We’ve got to stop giving people like Jerry Jones and Jake Paul attention—because the more we feed them, the bigger their egos get. If you take away the spotlight, they fade. In this episode, I break down why Jerry Jones and Jake Paul thrive on headlines, and why ignoring them is the real solution. Plus, I dive deep into the America’s Team documentary on Netflix, unpacking the explosive dynamic between Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson. Two massive egos, one franchise, and the rise—and fall—of the Cowboys dynasty.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look, man, it's real simple. If we stop giving this
time and attention, and if we stop watching it, it
goes away.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It just leaves. That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Out of sight, out of mind. You ever heard of that?
Out of sight, out of mind. Don't watch it on Netflix,
don't buy any of his pay per views, don't follow
his Twitter, don't respond to anything that he posts. That's it.
It's real simple. Like I know that there were rumors
of Anthony Joshua, and I know why everybody wants them
(00:31):
to fight Anthony Joshua. They want this to be put
to an end. In order to put it to an end,
you have to stop watching. You have to say I
am not going to do this. You know, I've been
doing radio a long time, man, and the thing that
I've always stated, your silence will always speak louder than
(00:54):
your comments. Now, I know that there are certain situations
where people are gonna go no, they listen to us.
This is one of those times when they're not. When
it comes to sport. They do not care how negative
your comments are because you are giving it the attention
that they want. Do you think Paul honestly cares whether
(01:16):
or not you like him or love him He even
quotes the comment section to further to further the rage.
Do you understand you're playing right into his hands. He's
literally in control of the entire room at all times,
and in order to make it go away. It's kind
(01:37):
of like this, you know, like if you see a
spider and it's pregnant and it's got all the little
babies on the back of it, and you feel like, oh,
if I squash it, this thing will go away, and
all of a sudden, you see how the little baby spread.
It's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You're not gonna be able to squash it with these words,
no matter how harsh your criticism is, regardless of how
much you hate Netflix crashing, despite what you may think
about this fight being a goofy thing, and it is.
As long as we give attention to it, it will
be there. Are you giving you attention to it?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right now? I am, And this is the last of.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It, barely three minutes of my time, Brody. It's just
like Jerry Jones. If you keep giving him attention, the
Dallas Cowboys' attention, he gets what he wants. He doesn't care.
Has anybody seen that documentary? By the way, the Dallas
documentary America's Team that's on Netflix right now. First of all,
(02:38):
I have to confess it's really good. I thought it
was going to be terrible. But the motion cuts, I mean,
it really is a lot like a dark fantasy how
it's grainy. It's very nineteen seventies, gritty, old school hardcore movie.
It kind of gives the vibe of those you know,
(03:03):
those movies man like Mochete and all that stuff, grinder House.
It kind of gives that vibe a little bit with
how they do the cuts and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I dig it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Sometimes it gets to be a little bit much. Oh
and the soundtrack is on point, by the way, the
original stuff, the use of the songs, everything, it's all
on point. Using I saw the sign for Troy Aightman
getting a concussion and I remember playing a game of football.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Is that's pretty nasty work, my man. But the point is.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That moving forward here, Jerry Jones was giving all this
attention from the beginning, and he fed off of that
negative energy. Everybody wanted to talk to him. Yeah, sure,
I'll talk to the media. Everybody thought that they were
squashing this bug. Everybody thought that they were killing the
spider that was pregnant. Everybody thought that they were doing
all this and they weren't. They thought, with their egos,
(03:55):
I'm making Jerry look so bad.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You weren't.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You were getting what you really wanted deep down, and
that was drawing a rating. And when Jerry saw what
was going on, getting interviewed on the fifty yard line
and all these experts and everybody that was chastising him
over and over and over again, it worked out for
a little while, but then when it all came crashing again,
it didn't matter. And really, when you think about it,
(04:22):
the opinion of Jerry Jones himself has never really changed.
And as much as Jerry has tried to pretend that
he wants to change that narrative, I don't really think
he does. Because it makes him so much money. He
puts himself in front of the camera. And I got
to tell you, I think sometimes he's the smartest one.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
In the room. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Remember the advice that he claims his old man gave
to him. You've got to be flashy. You gotta look
the part. You're in the NFL. Now, you got to
be this, you got to be that. How that entire
conversation allegedly went that he's talking about he had because
I think he he saw what was going on in
the NFL and realized that this was the direction of football.
(05:11):
I think he saw what was going on in movies
and cinema and TV shows, TV shows like Dallas very
near to them, being Jr. Kind of presuming that role,
being a JR type. I think that's exactly what he did.
I think he created a super villain, and he's an
incredible salesman, and so by constantly being in front of
(05:32):
the camera and everybody just feeding into it and seeing
how he is, it's an easy money grab. If it's
a slow day, ESPN will just hey, remember when Jerry Jones,
you know, I mean, they'll just stick a camera in
his face. I need a quote for the day, Brody,
(05:52):
I need something to get us going. Where's Jerry? Can
we get a quote from? Did he interview with somebody today?
Was he on the radio somewhere? Did he host some
kind of conference? Was he at practice?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Was he? I mean, come on, man, you saw him.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
If you watch that documentary, you literally saw him right
there at practice next to Barry Switzer. Would Hey, that's
not your decision, Jerry. They won the Super Bowl, Jerry
trying to be in the middle of it with the player,
somebody instructing him. Hey, man, okay, I'll go. Poor guy
(06:29):
wants to be a part of something that he's never
going to be a part of. So even if it's
not him being the smartest one in the room, then
it's still him just trying over and over and over again.
But I still think that he learned a long time ago,
whether it's authentic or not, me in front of the
camera equals attention on the Dallas Cowboys, which equals money
from me because now I'm gonna get more sponsorship deals.
We look at that football stadium. Man literally called Jerry's world.
(06:57):
What do you all think this is? It's literally Jerry's world.
We're all just living in it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You keep giving it attention and it'll keep coming back.
That's all there is to it. I think Jerry is
worried about the look of the Dallas Cowboys when he
says the things that he says. No, when he talks
about Michael Parsons, I mean the thing with him and
David Smith. Think about it. It's happened over and over again,
(07:28):
and he bragged on the documentary I can go longer
than most good for you, but it keeps messing up
your football team. But he doesn't care because he's making money.
That's what that amounts to. If everybody would have stopped
giving it attention, then it would just go away. The
(07:49):
moment you start giving it or stop giving it attention
is the moment Jerry sells that football team. I promise you,
I promise you, where he figures out something new. And
speaking of that documentary, Charles Haley is a madman. Man Alive.
(08:11):
Ninety five percent of what they said it was true,
but the five percent throwing a helmet smashed it through
the wall. Man Alive bro him. There were a lot
of things in that documentary that I didn't realize, and really, honestly,
one of them is is the understanding that it wasn't
(08:34):
just Jerry Jones. It was Jerry and Jimmy. They both
have incredibly fragile, salty egos. That's all that that amounts to.
They have incredibly fragile, salty egos. Could the dynasty have
(08:55):
kept going long, long, long long into it. I mean,
I don't know. I mean, Barry Switzer got us, got
him a super Bowl. Jerry claimed five hundred people could
have been coaching that football team and they would have won.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It kind of was true.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I mean, if you've ever watched a football life, Troy
y Aikman never liked Barry Switzer, and he always felt like
it was him that had to jumpstart everybody, and he
was tired of being the one doing it. And he
even fessed up an America's team, you know, or a
part of the football life where he said, look, man,
we were so good and so talented that we won
(09:31):
in spite of Barry Switzer. So even though he wasn't Jimmy,
it didn't matter. He didn't need to be Jimmy, which
maybe proves a lot of things. Maybe it proves that
Akman wasn't that good. Maybe it proves EMMITTT. Smith was
the best player on that football team. Maybe he was
better than Barry Sanders. Maybe Dallas cowboy fan is justified
(09:54):
in thinking that, look how bad they were playing without him.
The herschel Walker trade. Who's gonna get credit for that?
I mean Jimmy fast and said, well, you know, looking back,
it was the right thing to do, but he never
agreed with it, supposedly, and then it went from me
never agreed with it too. Well, it was actually my idea.
(10:15):
I was jogging with some coaches. And then Jerry never
actually really if you watch a documentary, took credit for it.
He just said, well, somebody else had kind of been passing.
Said when I bought the team from bum he was
just like, look, here's what you probably need to do
is trade herschel Walker siphoning all the money. But he
(10:36):
was worth every bit of it at the time. Now,
looking back, you know, Dallas gets the better that trade,
and it's just kind of like, Okay, at what point
does the ego get put away? At what point does
everybody put their ego aside and go, look, man, this
(10:57):
isn't a good idea. Let's just let this go. But
neither one of them could. And I honestly think Jimmy
pardon me, has disdain for Jerry, and it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
For me to hear the words. Especially.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think it was the first episode where Jerry Jones said,
thank God for Jimmy Johnson. If there's somebody you wanted
a foxhole with you in a situation like that, it's Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That was a shock.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know, And look, I haven't finished the whole
thing yet obviously, so I don't want to talk out
of pocket here. I don't know that it'll ever, honestly
truly be squashed, regardless of what either one of them
actually say, though regardless, I mean, you saw him in
that interview together. Oh you know, I do say a
few things, and I respect Jerry in terms of what
(11:49):
he's been able to do in business acumen, but in
terms of all the knowledge that I've accumulated over thirty
years of doing this. You know, those guys that laughter
was a nervous like, I don't like you laughter, And
to hear Jimmy Taylor, they were never really friends. They
(12:09):
just knew each other. So, you know, I don't know, man,
I don't know what to tell you. I just think
seeing a lot of the behind the scenes stuff, the
way that it went down, for real, I just think
it was both of them, and I think they're both
to blame for what happened. I mean, come on, how
(12:31):
do you have a sit down for two and a
half hours, resolved nothing and decide well, I'll come back
tomorrow what and then Jerry go, no, never mind. I
think that was the tailtale right there.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
That was the epitome of I've talked to you for
two and a half hours, neither one of us see
eye to eye. Did he backbite him? Should he have
gone to him like a man and said, look, man,
we're just we're not going to do this. Should he
have told him at the end of that meeting, was
Jerry trying to get Jimmy to kisses? Where ann Look,
there's still more questions than answers. That's the reality of
(13:05):
that situation. There will always be more questions than answers.
That's whether anybody likes it or not. And we're never
gonna get the full resolution out of it. And I
think in a lot of ways, it's probably time to
let it go. I'm serious, it's done. It's over with.
(13:25):
The Cowboys are who they are, and they're going to
be who they are as long as Jerry remains in
the focal point in the lens of I just want
to make money. That's all he's ever wanted to do.
He can talk about I've always wanted to known a
football team my entire life, and we deserve, you know,
(13:46):
the fans deserve the Troy Yekman's if we can get them.
Always putting himself in the spotlight. Forget all that for
one second and understand what an oil tycoon is. An
oil baron is Their first and foremost objective is to
make money by any means necessary. Jerry talked about being
(14:12):
fifty million dollars in debt. I think somebody ever wants
that to happen again. He said his mouth can get
him into any loan he wants. Think about that statement.
(14:32):
That literally means his lips can get him anything he wants. Attention.
Attention equals money in that business. At the end of
the day, football, basketball, whatever, It's all an entertainment business,
and he approaches it as such. And I think when
people have that understanding, or at least accept it, then
(14:55):
maybe that's when they'll let go. I don't know, but
that documentary was bananas.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Look, man, it's real simple. If we stop giving this
time and attention, and if we stop watching it, it
goes away.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It just leaves. That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Out of sight, out of mind. You ever heard of that?
Out of sight, out of mind. Don't watch it on Netflix,
don't buy any of his pay per views, don't follow
his Twitter, don't respond to anything that he posts. That's it.
It's real simple. Like I know that there were rumors
of Anthony Joshua, and I know why everybody wants them
(00:31):
to fight Anthony Joshua. They want this to be put
to an end. In order to put it to an end,
you have to stop watching. You have to say I
am not going to do this. You know, I've been
doing radio a long time, man, and the thing that
I've always stated, your silence will always speak louder than
(00:54):
your comments. Now, I know that there are certain situations
where people are gonna go no, they listen to us.
This is one of those times when they're not. When
it comes to sport. They do not care how negative
your comments are because you are giving it the attention
that they want. Do you think Paul honestly cares whether
(01:16):
or not you like him or love him He even
quotes the comment section to further to further the rage.
Do you understand you're playing right into his hands. He's
literally in control of the entire room at all times,
and in order to make it go away. It's kind
(01:37):
of like this, you know, like if you see a
spider and it's pregnant and it's got all the little
babies on the back of it, and you feel like, oh,
if I squash it, this thing will go away, and
all of a sudden, you see how the little baby spread.
It's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You're not gonna be able to squash it with these words,
no matter how harsh your criticism is, regardless of how
much you hate Netflix crashing, despite what you may think
about this fight being a goofy thing, and it is.
As long as we give attention to it, it will
be there. Are you giving you attention to it?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right now? I am, And this is the last of.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It, barely three minutes of my time, Brody. It's just
like Jerry Jones. If you keep giving him attention, the
Dallas Cowboys' attention, he gets what he wants. He doesn't care.
Has anybody seen that documentary? By the way, the Dallas
documentary America's Team that's on Netflix right now. First of all,
(02:38):
I have to confess it's really good. I thought it
was going to be terrible. But the motion cuts, I mean,
it really is a lot like a dark fantasy how
it's grainy. It's very nineteen seventies, gritty, old school hardcore movie.
It kind of gives the vibe of those you know,
(03:03):
those movies man like Mochete and all that stuff, grinder House.
It kind of gives that vibe a little bit with
how they do the cuts and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I dig it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Sometimes it gets to be a little bit much. Oh
and the soundtrack is on point, by the way, the
original stuff, the use of the songs, everything, it's all
on point. Using I saw the sign for Troy Aightman
getting a concussion and I remember playing a game of football.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Is that's pretty nasty work, my man. But the point is.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That moving forward here, Jerry Jones was giving all this
attention from the beginning, and he fed off of that
negative energy. Everybody wanted to talk to him. Yeah, sure,
I'll talk to the media. Everybody thought that they were
squashing this bug. Everybody thought that they were killing the
spider that was pregnant. Everybody thought that they were doing
all this and they weren't. They thought, with their egos,
(03:55):
I'm making Jerry look so bad.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You weren't.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You were getting what you really wanted deep down, and
that was drawing a rating. And when Jerry saw what
was going on, getting interviewed on the fifty yard line
and all these experts and everybody that was chastising him
over and over and over again, it worked out for
a little while, but then when it all came crashing again,
it didn't matter. And really, when you think about it,
(04:22):
the opinion of Jerry Jones himself has never really changed.
And as much as Jerry has tried to pretend that
he wants to change that narrative, I don't really think
he does. Because it makes him so much money. He
puts himself in front of the camera. And I got
to tell you, I think sometimes he's the smartest one.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
In the room. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Remember the advice that he claims his old man gave
to him. You've got to be flashy. You gotta look
the part. You're in the NFL. Now, you got to
be this, you got to be that. How that entire
conversation allegedly went that he's talking about he had because
I think he he saw what was going on in
the NFL and realized that this was the direction of football.
(05:11):
I think he saw what was going on in movies
and cinema and TV shows, TV shows like Dallas very
near to them, being Jr. Kind of presuming that role,
being a JR type. I think that's exactly what he did.
I think he created a super villain, and he's an
incredible salesman, and so by constantly being in front of
(05:32):
the camera and everybody just feeding into it and seeing
how he is, it's an easy money grab. If it's
a slow day, ESPN will just hey, remember when Jerry Jones,
you know, I mean, they'll just stick a camera in
his face. I need a quote for the day, Brody,
(05:52):
I need something to get us going. Where's Jerry? Can
we get a quote from? Did he interview with somebody today?
Was he on the radio somewhere? Did he host some
kind of conference? Was he at practice?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Was he? I mean, come on, man, you saw him.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
If you watch that documentary, you literally saw him right
there at practice next to Barry Switzer. Would Hey, that's
not your decision, Jerry. They won the Super Bowl, Jerry
trying to be in the middle of it with the player,
somebody instructing him. Hey, man, okay, I'll go. Poor guy
(06:29):
wants to be a part of something that he's never
going to be a part of. So even if it's
not him being the smartest one in the room, then
it's still him just trying over and over and over again.
But I still think that he learned a long time ago,
whether it's authentic or not, me in front of the
camera equals attention on the Dallas Cowboys, which equals money
from me because now I'm gonna get more sponsorship deals.
We look at that football stadium. Man literally called Jerry's world.
(06:57):
What do you all think this is? It's literally Jerry's world.
We're all just living in it.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You keep giving it attention and it'll keep coming back.
That's all there is to it. I think Jerry is
worried about the look of the Dallas Cowboys when he
says the things that he says. No, when he talks
about Michael Parsons, I mean the thing with him and
David Smith. Think about it. It's happened over and over again,
(07:28):
and he bragged on the documentary I can go longer
than most good for you, but it keeps messing up
your football team. But he doesn't care because he's making money.
That's what that amounts to. If everybody would have stopped
giving it attention, then it would just go away. The
(07:49):
moment you start giving it or stop giving it attention
is the moment Jerry sells that football team. I promise you,
I promise you, where he figures out something new. And
speaking of that documentary, Charles Haley is a madman. Man Alive.
(08:11):
Ninety five percent of what they said it was true,
but the five percent throwing a helmet smashed it through
the wall. Man Alive bro him. There were a lot
of things in that documentary that I didn't realize, and really, honestly,
one of them is is the understanding that it wasn't
(08:34):
just Jerry Jones. It was Jerry and Jimmy. They both
have incredibly fragile, salty egos. That's all that that amounts to.
They have incredibly fragile, salty egos. Could the dynasty have
(08:55):
kept going long, long, long long into it. I mean,
I don't know. I mean, Barry Switzer got us, got
him a super Bowl. Jerry claimed five hundred people could
have been coaching that football team and they would have won.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It kind of was true.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I mean, if you've ever watched a football life, Troy
y Aikman never liked Barry Switzer, and he always felt like
it was him that had to jumpstart everybody, and he
was tired of being the one doing it. And he
even fessed up an America's team, you know, or a
part of the football life where he said, look, man,
we were so good and so talented that we won
(09:31):
in spite of Barry Switzer. So even though he wasn't Jimmy,
it didn't matter. He didn't need to be Jimmy, which
maybe proves a lot of things. Maybe it proves that
Akman wasn't that good. Maybe it proves EMMITTT. Smith was
the best player on that football team. Maybe he was
better than Barry Sanders. Maybe Dallas cowboy fan is justified
(09:54):
in thinking that, look how bad they were playing without him.
The herschel Walker trade. Who's gonna get credit for that?
I mean Jimmy fast and said, well, you know, looking back,
it was the right thing to do, but he never
agreed with it, supposedly, and then it went from me
never agreed with it too. Well, it was actually my idea.
(10:15):
I was jogging with some coaches. And then Jerry never
actually really if you watch a documentary, took credit for it.
He just said, well, somebody else had kind of been passing.
Said when I bought the team from bum he was
just like, look, here's what you probably need to do
is trade herschel Walker siphoning all the money. But he
(10:36):
was worth every bit of it at the time. Now,
looking back, you know, Dallas gets the better that trade,
and it's just kind of like, Okay, at what point
does the ego get put away? At what point does
everybody put their ego aside and go, look, man, this
(10:57):
isn't a good idea. Let's just let this go. But
neither one of them could. And I honestly think Jimmy
pardon me, has disdain for Jerry, and it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
For me to hear the words. Especially.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I think it was the first episode where Jerry Jones said,
thank God for Jimmy Johnson. If there's somebody you wanted
a foxhole with you in a situation like that, it's Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That was a shock.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know, And look, I haven't finished the whole
thing yet obviously, so I don't want to talk out
of pocket here. I don't know that it'll ever, honestly
truly be squashed, regardless of what either one of them
actually say, though regardless, I mean, you saw him in
that interview together. Oh you know, I do say a
few things, and I respect Jerry in terms of what
(11:49):
he's been able to do in business acumen, but in
terms of all the knowledge that I've accumulated over thirty
years of doing this. You know, those guys that laughter
was a nervous like, I don't like you laughter, And
to hear Jimmy Taylor, they were never really friends. They
(12:09):
just knew each other. So, you know, I don't know, man,
I don't know what to tell you. I just think
seeing a lot of the behind the scenes stuff, the
way that it went down, for real, I just think
it was both of them, and I think they're both
to blame for what happened. I mean, come on, how
(12:31):
do you have a sit down for two and a
half hours, resolved nothing and decide well, I'll come back
tomorrow what and then Jerry go, no, never mind. I
think that was the tailtale right there.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
That was the epitome of I've talked to you for
two and a half hours, neither one of us see
eye to eye. Did he backbite him? Should he have
gone to him like a man and said, look, man,
we're just we're not going to do this. Should he
have told him at the end of that meeting, was
Jerry trying to get Jimmy to kisses? Where ann Look,
there's still more questions than answers. That's the reality of
(13:05):
that situation. There will always be more questions than answers.
That's whether anybody likes it or not. And we're never
gonna get the full resolution out of it. And I
think in a lot of ways, it's probably time to
let it go. I'm serious, it's done. It's over with.
(13:25):
The Cowboys are who they are, and they're going to
be who they are as long as Jerry remains in
the focal point in the lens of I just want
to make money. That's all he's ever wanted to do.
He can talk about I've always wanted to known a
football team my entire life, and we deserve, you know,
(13:46):
the fans deserve the Troy Yekman's if we can get them.
Always putting himself in the spotlight. Forget all that for
one second and understand what an oil tycoon is. An
oil baron is Their first and foremost objective is to
make money by any means necessary. Jerry talked about being
(14:12):
fifty million dollars in debt. I think somebody ever wants
that to happen again. He said his mouth can get
him into any loan he wants. Think about that statement.
(14:32):
That literally means his lips can get him anything he wants. Attention.
Attention equals money in that business. At the end of
the day, football, basketball, whatever, It's all an entertainment business,
and he approaches it as such. And I think when
people have that understanding, or at least accept it, then
(14:55):
maybe that's when they'll let go. I don't know, but
that documentary was bananas.
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