December 16, 2024 • 54 mins
Pour up a Dark and Stormy and join Steven McCash as he looks back at the year 2003 in sports, music, and the news along with Stoney Keeley and Brandon Vick before they shift gears and talk about movies released in 2003 not yet discussed in Season 4. Today, we're drinking with...the year 2003!
To make the Dark and Stormy, you'll need:
-2oz of rum
-Splash of ginger beer
-Lime wedge
Instructions:
-Add ice into a rocks glass
-Pour the ingredients over the ice
-Garnish with a lime wedge
To make the Dark and Stormy, you'll need:
-2oz of rum
-Splash of ginger beer
-Lime wedge
Instructions:
-Add ice into a rocks glass
-Pour the ingredients over the ice
-Garnish with a lime wedge
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
The Sobrose Network presents the movie podcast, breaking down films
and their impact on pop culture as they approach the
legal drinking age. This is Drinking With Now here's your host,
Steven m cash.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ladies and gentlemen, Happy New year. Thanks for joining us
as we wrap up the year two thousand and three
with a little recap and review here on Drinking With
the podcast where we raise the glass to the movies
that have reached the legal drinking age. I'm your host,
Steve mccash or the Sobros Network, and join me as
we embark on a cinematic journey through the classics of yesteryear,
celebrating their twenty first birthdays in style. Now we're not
(00:55):
going through our normal format because this is the recap episode,
but we always have a drink that we discuss, which
we will have that as well. And I always have
two people by my side that helped me get through
this long discussion of films this year, this episode, the
year two thousand and three is what we'll discuss. So
joining me at the bar as always is the resident
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film critic of the Sobros Network, mister Brandon Vick, who
is also a member of the Southeastern Film Critics Association,
a board member of the Music City Films Critics Association,
and most importantly, the birthgiver of the vix Flicks and
Cinema Chronicles podcast heard right here on the Sobros Network.
And joining him is the man, the myth, the legend
behind the Sobros Network, the heady I see the glue
(01:37):
of the brand, Jen aficionado, a Titans fan of none
other caliber, cat lover and all around football wordsmith, mister
Stony Keeley, gentlemen, Happy New Year's.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Happy New Year's. Mccash the warm introduction. As always, it
never it never feels bad, it always feels good. I
think two thousand and three was a pretty good year
for film, and I am excited to hit some of
the pictures that we didn't talk about on this podcast
this season.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I agree, I wish we had twelve more months.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yes, maybe we can, Maybe we can do it. Can
we just do it instead of two thousand and four,
We'll just do two thousand and three again, Part two. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I like that you said, uh, it's never bad, it's
always good. Uh. In describing my intro for you, that
is also how my my my sex life during my
single days was always referred to wiley old man. Can't
get anything by me?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
What I butchered it? Wiley oldcoot that.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't tell you're talking about wrinkly old man.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Is when I heard I'm gonna cut that part out.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean, at this point, I am mere weeks away
from turning the Big five. Oh so I kind of
fit that description as well. But prapulations and us and
three yeah, thank you. The National Championship game is on
my birthday, so happy Birthday to me is correct. But
in two thousand and three, I was a young, rye
(03:11):
little twenty eight year old running these streets and uh,
we're gonna discuss some of the big cultural events and
global events of the year, but mainly focused on movies
as well. But we have to have a drink. It's
so in my research of what all the things that
happened in two thousand and three, it was a lot.
There was a lot of dark, dark things going on
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in the world. It was a bit of a stormy
year as well. And with that, we're gonna do the
RUM classic dark and stormy, mainly because RUM was the
largest had the largest market share of any spirits sold
in the United States in the year two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yep, he surprised by that. I feel like people sleep
on rum around here. It's a lot of whiskey Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
There's it's only because pirates drink room.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
A and had big there. You go to the Caribbean movie,
I got it connected dots.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I'll be honest with you, I had no fucking idea
The Pirates of the Caribbean that was.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That was a big, big deal two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It's a movie.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yes, yes, are you thinking about that other Pirates movie.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That you could rant it Blockbuster?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, they may have said it in that one.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Possibly, But like I said, the drink is the dark
and stormy. It's real simple. You take two ounces of rum,
You're gonna have some ginger beer on the side, and
you're gonna add ice into a ross glass, pour the
two ounces of rum over the ice, and then add
a splash of ginger beer garnish with the lime wedge,
and there you have your dark and stormy.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
That is that is nice, right, especially this time of year.
Ginger beer warms you up a little bit. The rum
warms you up a little bit. That's a good almost
like a take on a Moscow mule there, it sounds.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Like a little close to it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Ye. Well, the year two thousand and three was marked
by some significant events across the globe in politics, entertainment, technology,
and culture. Got a little brief recap for you. Let's
talk global events. We had the Iraq War. One of
the most defining events of two thousand and three was
the invasion of Iraq by the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Boy, we are starting off on a heavy note.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's why that That's why I said dark
and stormy was chosen for a reason.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, that's defining, defining time period in our lives. Because
we Brandon and I were juniors in high school. Now
well no, actually we would have been seniors in the
fall semester of two thousand and three and going to
Wilson Central High School the school's ROTC program, and we
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had we had people that we went to high school
with when we were in high school that ended up
being deployed to Iraq for the Iraq War that started
this year. It's kind of crazy to look back on
that and think all this is going on while we're
in sitting in the theaters watching.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
ELF and isn't it still going on?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think so, yeah, I'm talking about Oh gotcha. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So we didn't have the draft during the days of
the Iraq War, but you guys were in that prime
age range to be drafted if we had one. How
do you guys both think at that time? You would
have fared if you had to been drafted.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I would have too, fat.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, I had a I have one of my leg
bones is actually a fishing rod.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I do remember thinking like I I have asthma, so
I maybe I won't have to go.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Also, we're only children.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We're only children. I was. I was terrified of the prospects.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I don't think. I don't think any I think besides
a war going on and what you watched on TV,
I really just had no there was I had no
damn clue. To be honest, there was.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
There was a time in my life when I wanted
to join the army and my parents wouldn't let me.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Was that after or before G I Jane?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Was after after G I Jane? Because I'm pretty sure G.
I Jane came out when I was six years old.
I wasn't begging my parents to join the army. But once,
you know, I think this was probably like sophomore year,
I started talking about, hey, you know, I might I
might be interested in this, serve your country and all
that stuff, and my parents were like, no, son, you're
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not gonna oh, you won't be doing that. You're not
gonna do that at all, and they talked me out
of it. And then once the Iraq War started, I
remember thinking, stony, you fucking idiot. What if you had
find up to join the army and then this happened,
and you want to talk about a dramatic change in
the complexion of my life, that probably probably would have
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done it. So I, after kind of coming to my
senses a little bit, I felt like I was terrified
of the draft because I was pretty sure. I filled
out some paper that said, yes, the army can contact me,
I am interested, like through our OTC at school, like
one of those like job fairs or whatever is Yes,
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I might be interested in this, contact me. And then
two years later, a senior year, when the Iraq War
is starting off, I'm like, oh God, I hope they
threw that form out.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
If they call I ain't answering.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So besides, besides besides not being a patriot. What else
did you discover.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Two thousand and three the film Underworld.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In that order, hate patriotism and Kate beckins.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Let's keep the happy trade rolling. In February, we had
the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Oh shit, Yeah, I didn't think that was two thousand
and three.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That led to a lengthy investigation and significant change in
NASA's space program.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, Elon Musk, Elon Musk bought it. Yeah, I think
that happened.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And then outside of the States, but it kind of
found its way here.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
We had the stars outbreak that began in Asia in
two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The sun. The sun's starting to shine here. Uh. Going
back to the Iraq War in December of two thousand Look,
in December of two thousand and three, the former Iraqi
president Suddam Hussein was captured by US forces, making a
significant movement or moment in the Iraqi War.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Hell, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Not all bad, not all bad.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
No, but the question still remains, did he even do
in anything with nine to eleven?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Do we want to?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Are we?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Is it about to be one.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Of those just I'm saying it's drinking with not thinking
with guys.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He even dead?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Is he even dead?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I just remember that pulling that taking his statue statue down.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's a big thing.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I believe the quote is mister Gorbajeff, tear down that statue.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
If you don't tear down that statue, we'll put a
boot in the rest. It's the American we have.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We have some influential UH youth listening to this podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So off Toby Keith.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So unfortunately I was the wrong president, wrong UH country's
leader in wrong war.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But I think my song is pretty Yeah. I think
that adds up.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
We heard something here. We're just written on history.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, this is how McGill was born.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
In two thousand and three. Another highlight. I remember a
Toby Key song. He would be like, hey, uncle Sam,
but them on the top of his list, Statue of
Liberty started shaking her fists. And I would always say,
statue of Liberty story shaking her tiths. And if that
ain't American, I don't know what that's. So you're booting
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the statue of liberty.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You have that movement, the q movement for qan QAnon.
So if the sobros had its version of that. What
letter would we be?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Damn? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
We had our own conspiracies out there.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
W let's see W is nice for a Why?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Why?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why? Why?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Why?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Works?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yea?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Why?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah? I like that. Let's start the y movement?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Why not? Why not? Why not? So it was a
big year in two thousand and three for technology because
this is the year where we began to get really
fucking stupid as a society. Because this is the year
Tom and his buddies created MySpace. No shit, yep, all
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of us had our eight top friends beginning in two
thousand and three. That's when the social networking began to
take off with the launch of my Space, which quickly
became one of the most popular social media platforms at
this time, shaping the future of online social interaction and
given the twenty eight year old Steven the slight ability
to code.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I was always late to the party. I like, I
would sign up from MySpace, but it was like a
year or two Facebook, same thing, it was like years later.
I don't know if texting was invented yet, but that
was also something I refused to do for a long time. Yes,
but oh my space with your top eight and then
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you could put like, couldn't you do theme songs or something?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh? Yeah, you could. You could have a playlist that
went on that played on. You could.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That's what it was. That's what it was. I guess
the playlist part.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You could use different codes to like, you know, configure
your page.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's what I understand your coding joke.
Now it took me a minute.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Bit.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Holy shit, you're right, you could.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's how I learned to code. That's how that's how
I built all of the websites that I have that
don't exist. But yeah, do you guys remember any of
your top eight friends from those MySpace days?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't know that I had a MySpace until two
thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I just told him I was late to the game
on MySpace, Facebook, texting, Twitter. I think it was. Yes,
I think I do, only because it was mainly the
people in high school.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I remember my my now ex wife and Barack Obama
were my one two. That's all I remember. They were
my two best friends. On my face.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I had Brandon our buddy, Brett Ye Andrew buddy, Andrew
our buddy.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Mac Mark.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I think I don't Remember if I would have had
Mark on there, remember our buddy Zach, And then I
don't know, probably some girl.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I was gonna say, I don't even know if we
had any girls on there, But if you liked a girl,
that was the way you did.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's how you made your move back in the day.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, you didn't have to touch them at all, just
put them. All you have to do is put them
in the top eight and you see it and it's like,
oh man.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And then but the drama that would unfold if you
move somebody out of their their spot or drop them.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You knew it was happening.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, So that's enough about thinking about how we were
trying to hit the ladies up. In two thousand and three,
let's talk sports. There was a big year in sports.
Tom brady dominance in the NFL continued. Yeah, it's been
twenty one years ago and he was still balling. You
had Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl with the uh no,
(15:16):
not Tom Brady. Excuse me. I was thinking that Tom
Brady years uh in Tampa Bay. But instead it was
the Tampa Bay Bucks, not the New England Patriots that
won the Super Bowl over the Oakland Raiders. At that
time forty eight twenty one. Yeah, that that Super Bowl
halftime show was highlighted by Shania Twain. No doubt in
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sting that that lineup makes no sense together at all.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I didn't even realize that was a thing. Holy shit,
that is.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Very I honestly don't remember that sting and who no doubt. Wow,
Michael Jordan played his last NBA game that that season
going into two two thousand and three, and then as
two thousand and three is going into the two thousand
and four season. The latest entry into the goat conversation,
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Lebron James was drafted straight out of high school by
his hometown Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh yeah, yep, the rightful goat in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Don't start down that right won't do it.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
No, first of the dam Hussein, Now this, how dare you?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
That hairline, that receding hairline might be the greatest all time.
But that's about it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Stockton was he still playing in two thousand and three.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I think the Melman and his little buddy John Stockton
had wrapped things up.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
By that little buddy, John, you were so disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Look talk about disrespect. Barry Bonds became the first Major
League baseball player to hit five hundred home runs and
still five hundred bases during the two thousand and three
baseball season. The goat, well, the goat at putting needles
in his butt probably.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, gotta be first in So.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Come on, at some point we'll talk about people who
turned twenty one years of age that year, who were
born that year that are now twenty one. But there
were two really young high school age people who who
made a splash on the world sporting scene. And that's
one Lionel Messi, who debuted for FC Barcelona at the
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age of sixteen, that's two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
God, yeah, eight yeah, one of the greatest, oh my god,
to ever do it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
And another, arguably goat and football slash soccer, is Cristiano Ronaldo.
He debuted for Portugal that year at eighteen.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So that's the game.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, that's in the age range of what you guys
were at that time. Does that make you feel bad
that you didn't accomplish things like they did it?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That? No, asshole? Did you not hear us? We went
to see Underworld.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
We were backyard wrestling. Yeah, tell me we love Yeah, Jesus,
I was jopping.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You were out there.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, okay, Well, let's transition to team sports and how
they fared. Ohio State beat Miami thirty one to twenty
four in the Fiesta Ball to win the national Championship
that year, and baseball you had the Florida Marlins defeating
the New York Yankees four games too to win the
World Series. The San Antonio Spurs, behind Tim Duncan, won
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the NBA Finals over the New Jersey Nets in six games.
The New Jersey Devils, though, did right the ship by
winning the Stanley Cup over the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.
And lastly, in team sports, Syracuse beat Kansas and the
men's basketball National Championship game. I remember none of that
of the.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Sport and a good year for New Jersey sports, I guess.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, yeah, a little good in bat.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I bet your wife remembers it finally maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I think she was a Nets fan when I think,
I think they were a Nets family when the Nets
were still in New Jersey, so probably would have been
supporting the team during that run.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yea, and the Devils.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And the Devils, yeah, people still like the Devils.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Lastly, in sports, something I don't think we've ever talked
about on this podcast. Uh is the m m A
the UFC. Both Tank Abbot and Frank Shamrock returned to
the octagon after years long absences.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And Tank Abbott had that run in w c W.
Frank Shamrock was.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That former Intercontinental champion Frank or Ken Ken Ken was
the former Intercontinental champion.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah, did Ken Shamrock come back?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh did I say Frank?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I did say Frank.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh shit, I forgot there were two Shamrocks for a second.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah. Ken Shamrock was was hard. I liked him like
that late nineties run with the intercontinental title, that rivalry
with the Rock and hell yeah, had some really good
matches with Steve Black. That was That was a good
run for Ken Shamrock.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I always remember what was it that woman that played
his sister or whatever, and he was you can slap me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Slap him at ringside?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I forgot about that? Was that Tory No somebody rock?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Ryan Shamrock was the program with Valvenus.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
That's it I was with. I thought it was Billy
Gunn or Valvenus makes sense before that before kind I
chopped it off. Yeah, Oh my god. I hope he's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Two thousand and threes. WrestleMania was one of my favorites
of all time too. That was the year it was.
While we're on this, wrestling, Yeah, go ahead, the Angle,
Lesnar main event, Hogan McMahon street Fight, Austin Rock three,
Triple h and Booker t the controversial storyline X nineteen
X it was nineteen. It was they went from X
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seven X eight.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And then.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
They went back to the to the Roman numerals, so
it was X. I.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That was a good one.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What else do you guys want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, I've got nothing to add to that because I
remember nothing about wrestling in two thousand and three. But
music had a big year, and we'll briefly get into
that before we move on to films. The Dixie Chicks
backlash happened in March, when lead singer Natalie Maine tells
a London audience, as we all remember, just so you know,
we're shamed. The President of the United States is from Texas.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Boy, that got you canceled back the words. Yeah, God,
there's nothing. If they said it today then no one
would even cover it.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
No, okay?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
They were dropped from all country radio playlists and received
death threats for years ahead, years going forward. Uh. They
eventually made up with country radio as they became known
as the Chicks. At that point, that was a weird time.
I'm not a big country fan, but I really like
the Dixie Chicks.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I never get into him.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean, I like, like Earl had to die in
a couple of others, but then that was it. I
didn't really If you ain't, I'm a Vince Gill listener.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Vince Gill kind of country.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, I don't want don't don't give me no two
thousands nothing. Yeah, I'm coming with you the Vince Gill
and Randy Travis.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Me some Johnny Cash, hell yeah, George Jones, George Jones,
some Alabama, Yeah, Hank Williams Junior.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Give me some Alan Jackson. I like him. Yeah, yeah,
I should have said Garth at the top.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I think the Dixie Chicks were kind of one of
the acts that ushered in a new era for country
that I didn't I just didn't really didn't really vibe with.
Especially now to see what country has become today, Oh
my god, I'm kind.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Of all the ways post Malone country.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, you know what, they say, when you need to
when you need to write a check, you come to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That's true. He's cash. He's straight up cashing jelly.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Roll, tolling in cash. Speaking of and cash. In two
thousand and three, the biggest show on television was American
Idol and it wrapped up in second season that year
with Ruben Stuttern Ruben stutter yep taking it home the
bars he did, and then you had one of the
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most iconic events or moments in MTV history when you
had the kiss that passed the torch happened at the
MTV Video Awards between Madonna, Brittany and Christina That was
very controversial.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yes it was, Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That something even more controversial versal and damaging to his legacy.
Two thousand and three was the year that Michael Jackson
was arrested on child molestation charges.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Man, I yeah, I remember that happening in it being
kind of a it felt like a bombshell thing to
a teenager that didn't really understand that situation, but it
sounded like a thing that a lot of people there
were apparently like looking back on it as an adult,
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like a lot of inclinations that there was some weird
stuff going on, and it's just kind of crazy to
think how like younger minds can kind of perceive that stuff.
Like for us, it's like, oh my god. At the time,
I remember being like, holy shit, what And then now
that I'm an adult going back, you watch the documentaries
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on it, and it's like, oh, yeah, like this is
this has been one of those things that people just
never really talked about.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, two things that people really talked about two thousand
and three and music were two debuts that had major
commercial success. You had the debut of Beyonce's debut solo album,
Dangerously in Love, which featured the big hit Crazy in Love,
and then you also had Get Rich or Die Trying
from fifty cent. Those are two of the biggest albums
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in the year two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Hell yeah, that album, I remark in the Club was everywhere.
It was like the precursor when in the Club died.
Yeah by Usher took over. Yeah, and it was like
for just a two year period, it's just those two
songs and then some.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Hey y'a from the Outcast came came behind us.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But transitioning to film, which is what we do the most,
talk about the most here. Obviously, the highest grossing film
from the year two thousand and three was obviously Lord
of the Rings the Return of the King that brought
in a little over one point one billion dollars at
the box office.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Crazy run yep.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And then a second behind it and also became the
GROS highest grossing animated film of all time was Finding
Nemo that we did earlier this year. You can go
back and listen to that episode with over eight hundred
and seventy million dollars. Yeah, crazy year. And then I'd
also like to add in something political from the entertainment
world that happened that year. We got the swearing in
(26:07):
of the Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in California. Yeah, that was
two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Damn yep. Wow, he's just coming off of Collateral Damage.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Do you see why you left offset.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
From collateral damage and into public office.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So before we get into discussing transition, really before we get.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Into discussing the movies of two thousand and three that
we really liked it that we didn't talk about on
this podcast, let's recap some of the awards season and
I'm mainly just going to focus on the Oscars here.
The Oscars took place February twenty ninth to two thousand
and four, obviously rewarding the films from two thousand and
three Best Film. Do we know what that is? Off
top head? Yeah, K the King absolutely, and then obviously
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Peter Jackson brought home the award for Best Director for
Lord of the Rings. You had Sean Penn winning for
Mystic River that we talked about earlier this year, as
well for Supporting Actor Tim Robbins for his role in
Mystic River. Now, we did discuss a Charlie's Theron movie
earlier this year when it came to the Italian Job,
(27:14):
but we didn't discuss her Oscar winning performance from Monster
that she won Best Actress for and then for Best
Supporting Actress. I've never seen Cold Mountain, but Renees Zall
Lugger brought home that award.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's a good one.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
All movies that I have not seen that I jotted
down as Oscar winners, we talked about Monster, Cold Mountain.
I'd like to catch those two.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Because Cole Mountain was great from I remember it was great.
It was her Nicole Kidman and Jude Law. Yeah, and
the guy that I think the director of The English
Patient did that one.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I know, Charlie's Starren's performance in Monster like a physical transformation,
but probably in my lifetime anyway, I can think of
as one of the few, like holy shit, captivating performances,
one of the one of the acting performances you've got
to see before you die kind of deal. So I should,
(28:09):
I should make a priority of that to get on.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's good. Christina Ricci is good in it too.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Uh, let's go from good to bad when it comes
to film awards, And let's talk about the two thousand
and three Razzie Awards. Your Worst Picture nominees. I'm gonna
give you the nominees for the for Worst Picture. You
have The Real CanCon, which I've never seen, and I
don't know if I've heard you have from Justin to Kelly. Yeah,
(28:39):
I know what that is, but I've never seen it.
You have Gelie, Cat in the Hats and Charlie's Angels
Full Throttle. What film brought home the award for Worst
Picture at the Razzies.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Gelie. I liked the Cat and the hat by the way,
Ken the Hat's kind of creepy, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Jillie was your winner for Worst Picture, and then Worst
Actor went to Ben Affleck for a trio of films.
He did Jillie, Daredevil and Paycheck.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Okay, you know what, Let's kick a man when he's down.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That's tough scene. Yeah, I'm okay with the Gilie and
even the Daredevil.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Maybe Paychecks Paycheck's fine?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Do we need to revisit that one.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I don't know about that, but because I remember.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I remember liking that at the time.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I remember it's a very generic action. I don't even
think I enjoyed it. I thought it was sort of
mediocre then, so I'm sure it hasn't changed.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Then the hits the awards kept coming for Jillie at
the Razzies. Your Worst Actress was Jennifer Lopez for her
role in the film, and then it also won Worst
Director for Martin Briest taking the helm behind the camera
for Jilie. But you're supporting actor and actress, you had
(30:02):
Sylvester Stallone and Spy Kids three D and then another
eighties legend uh for best for Worst Supporting Actress was
Demi Moore and Charlie's Angels.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I don't even remember she was the villain. But I
don't remember that movie being that bad.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
But I don't remember if I ever saw it, to
be honest.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't remember it being that bad either.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
We should visit The Real King Coon because I've never
I've never ever I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I've never gone back and watched it. I remember it
as another Real can Coon.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, oh, you remember it, like a real world type?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, I think so, it's like a Realmick kind.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Of Oh god, I still don't remember it.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But it's not like I remember thinking I'm gonna have
to look it up now. The Real can Coon two
thousand and three film, American reality film, uh and fired
by the reality television genre. And like the thing is
is it a spoof? I don't know if it's a spoof,
but it's like it's supposed to be like a sexy
(31:12):
movie basically, like they capitalized it Kingcuns spring Break thing,
and it's.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Probably should have won a rasing.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, we'll we'll have to watch it.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
It takes I mean, it takes some kind of thing
to put GELI together. Yes, I mean, come on.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So, lastly, I want to talk about before we just
get further into the movies we loved and missed on
two thousand and three, let's talk about some of the
people we lost in two thousand and three. And I
remember twenty sixteen being a big, a big loss for
entertainment with Prince David Bowie, George Michael, and so many
others that we lost that year two thousand and three.
(31:52):
Right off the bat, I've got two iconic names and entertainment.
Johnny Cash passed away in two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Three, oh damn.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And Fred Rogers aka Mister Rogers was lost that year
as well.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, and Johnny Cash, if I'm not mistaken. The three
was when the album came out that had Hurt On.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the way I think right after it
was released.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, because that music video, I think he was dead.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The music video.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
That, Yeah, it's quite haunted. It's in black and white.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It is.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, So it's kind of like one of those surreal,
surreal moments of the time if.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You think about it in the same way God got
two Angels.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Hey, there you go, Because what a nice way to
frame that.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Because also in two thousand and three, we lost June
Carter Cash.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, geez, that's right. She went shortly after he did.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yep. We also lost Nina Simone Berry White, the hysterical
John Ritter, the legendary Greg Yeah, Gregory Peck was lost,
the young Jesus Come on the teen actor Jonathan Brandis
(33:10):
passed away. Uh. And then the iconic Catherine Hepburn and
Bob Bob Hope both passed away in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Jeez.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And then we had Robert Palmer, the and Maurice Gibb
of The Beg's passed away. Gregory Hines, the iconic cat dancer,
and actor Nel Carter from Give Me a Break. I
used to love that show when I was a kid.
He passed away. And then two icons and w W
Hall of Famers, Miss Elizabeth and mister Perfect Kurt Hitting
(33:41):
both passed away in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Wow, you know, I knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I met mister Perfect right before he does, as soon
as he was very rude to me. And I'm just saying,
maybe it's karma.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Don't get on Brandon's batside.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Oh boy, don't let them listen. When I saw him
at the airport, he was here. It's when one of
the blackberries, and he would not look up and I
was like, hey, are you mister perfect, and he kind
of smirked and said yeah again, never looked at me, nothing.
And I asked him about like WWE or something, which
I think he had just been fired from WE, so
maybe he was pissed, but he didn't say anything, didn't
(34:20):
look up, nothing. And then an old country singer named
Mark Chestnut walks up and let me tell you, mister
Perfect couldn't shut the fuck up. So anyway, Mark Chestnut
still alive.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I think, yeah, so maybe that's a lesson learned that
you need to come with some swagger to talk to
mister purfect exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
And also, I'm going to go in and say it.
When he died, I'm not sure if he's an angel,
even though he's perfect exactly, wasn't perfect to me.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I remember, excuse me, you can tell my voices starting
to slip. I remember the John Ritter death because John
Cena got in trouble for making fun of it. Making
fun of it in one of his freestyles on SmackDown.
He said something about call me call me something like
(35:17):
John Ritter and did not go over well with the
executives of the I think it was up N at
the time, who also had like one of his sitcoms,
And I think it.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Was simple rules. Yeah, and like he literally like they
who came in for him? Was it David Spade?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I think I think what a wonderful replacement that was.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, I'll give you a heart attack like Jack Tripper dropped.
Is the line he dropped in the in the wrap,
the freestyle that really really uh bad taste, bad tastes,
bad taste.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's funny you say that, because a line like that
would get a lot of people in the WW at
that time just released and fired at John Cena. Wasn't
John Cena in two thousand and three, So it's kind
of shocking that you haunt the hanchos at UPN didn't say, Hey,
well we need you guys to get rid of here.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I'm sorry that line was censored. Oh was it what
he actually said in the wrap? John Cena is more
American than silicone strippers leaving cats dead in their tracks
with heart attacks like John Ritter.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Okay, now that whoo, that is pretty clever. How did
you say the whole line there? Yeah, well keep in
mind vince Mentmahon. First of all, probably didn't give a shit.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
He's too busy shitting on somebody's chest, right.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Sena was a heel at the time.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm sure he brought in some kind of money. So yeah,
but I mean he got heat. Yeah, did he get heat?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And then the network said, hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
You do this ship again. You're gonna do the marine
and then come to find out he ended up having
to the marine when I think he did like three
other marines? Is that the miss.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I feel like, didn't Randy Orton do? No, he did
a difference.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
He did twelve rounds.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Twelve rounds.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, he's done cold did something and yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
All of that because John Cena mentioned John.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, well John Ridders, John Ritter, He's he was a
national treasure.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
He was. There's some national treasures that turned twenty one
in two thousand and three, including Kristen Dunce yep, the
original American idol. Kelly Clarkson turned twenty one that year. Uh,
and Anna Paquin turned twenty one?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
What never happened to her?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
She did True Blood?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, you had Lil Wayne turning twenty one? Hell yeah, hey,
older he was probably smoking weed with Seth Rogan, who
also turned twenty one that year, and then a sexy,
sexy little trio really that turned twenty one in two
thousand and three, Sienna Miller, Jessica Bill and Anne Hathaway.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
What I thought you were gonna say, lows lonely boys.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I wish.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I mean, there's a ton of people this year in
two thousand and three that turned twenty one, including the
situation from the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Oh damn, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Comedian Whitney Cummings, Kieran Culkin, and Eddie Redmain. I'll turn
twenty one, And.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I didn't realize Eddie Redmain was that old.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, it looks like just he still looks like a
young boy.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
He does.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Lastly, I have there wasn't a lot of people at
this point in life fucking in two thousand and two,
two thousand and three that created high caliber celebrities that
are now turning twenty one in twenty twenty four. You
do have a few. You have Olivia Rodrigo, who turned
twenty one this year. Nice pop star Tate McRae turns
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twenty one this year. Olympic gold medalist gymnast Sunny Lee,
who we just saw have great success in Paris, turned
twenty one this year, and the somewhat controversial hard to
figure out Jojo Siwa turned twenty one this year. Okay, yeah,
not a not a outside of Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
And I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed with these parents
who had sex back then and brought and brought these people.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
To life bloomers.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah that's true too, che yep.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So, gentlemen, what films do we want to talk about
from two thousand and three that maybe we didn't get
a chance to just scus this.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Year, So I'm kind of surprised that we didn't talk
about some of these. I felt like it was a
big year for franchises. In addition to Return of the King,
you had the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie that
came out, The Curse of the Black Pearl X two
X Men United. You had two Fast Too, Furious, Terminator three,
The Matrix Revolutions, Bad Boys two were all in two
(40:22):
thousand and three. So it felt like it was a
big summer for the for the franchise.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Really really really popular movies that we decided not to dis.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yes exactly and I will add one to that. One
hundred and one Dalmatians two Patches London Adventure came out
in January of two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Had no idea, had no idea?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Was that an animated one?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, it is probably straight to I.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Think it went straight to Disney Channel.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I really liked Return of the King. It's one of
my favorite movies. I liked Pirates of the Caribbean a
lot too, the first one. Yep, outside of that.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Franchise fodder, Yeah, I don't really care about the rest,
but those two in particular are as good as it
gets with well films, but also just like franchises and blockbusters.
Black Pearl was so it just was so cool. Yeah,
and Johnny Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow, I mean it was awesome.
(41:23):
But yeah, Return of the King what an epic, epic film,
and it deserved every award. I think it.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Swept thirteen Oscars or something like that.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
It's one of the very few.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Another sequel that was also epic that Disney put out
that year was Inspector gadget To.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Oh yeah, could where you get where?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You had French Stewart taking over for Matthew Broderick in
the title role man Boy.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I wonder how good that did.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I don't even remember that movie.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I bet you it was.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
As far as like best of the rest. I would mention,
I don't I don't know how it holds up, but
I at the time really enjoyed Bruce Almighty. Thought it
was a fun flick.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I think it's still funny.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I would put Anger Management in that category as well.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's an one I agree.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And then I haven't seen The Last Samurai, but I
was surprised to see that it made as much money
as it did at the box office. Really liked Mastering
Commander Seabiscuit came out that year. I wasn't that big
of a fan of it. I didn't think it lived
up to the hype. The Cooler was a fun little
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movie from three. I liked Underworld at the time. I
still think it's a fun, cheesy vampire were wolf action movie.
Loved Open Range. I would mention what I think is
an underrated, forgotten animated film called Brother Bear came out
in three.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, last Academy Award.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Lastly, I would mention one of my favorite films of
all time as well, Big Fish in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I Last Samurai is one of the best, certainly one
of the Tom Cruise's very best. Yeah films, it's really good.
I haven't seen it in a long time. But I
also Open Range. I know, uh oh, yeah, I love
that movie. I know Kevin Costner hasn't didn't have a
(43:27):
real good go this year with his Horizon, but Open
Range is one of his best westerns. It also has
a Net Binning and Robert Devall. I liked Open Water.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Oh that was good.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
I thought that was a fun one. I don't know
why Stoney didn't see it, and then I feel like
it's probably cheesy, but uh and you'll appreciate this. Actually,
did we do it? We didn't do Runaway Drury, did we?
Speaker 1 (43:56):
We did not.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
That's a John Cusack movie.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
That's Rachel Julie Roberts movie. So that's a hard note
for me.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
No, it is not. She is not in that movie,
Is she not? You're thinking of Runaway Bride? Rachel Weiss
is in it. Dustin Hoffman, Gene Hackman. That was a
good one. I'm looking Underworld was was was a fun movie.
I agree with Stony how to Lose a Guy in
Ten Days.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yes, I that was two thousand and three. Yeah, yep,
oh wait, no, I'm thinking of ten things and that's
days was McConaughey and Kate.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Conaughey and Hudson.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah, yeah, really liked, uh, really like those. I know,
well you talked about Bruce Almighty that. I think that's
still one of Jim Carrey's best, especially kind of towards
the end of when he was actually doing movies.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, what about what about you mccash What are some
of yours?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
So I'm kind of scrolling as well because I I
can't find the ones that I wrote down, but some
that I've got off the top of my head. I
really because I read the book. I like Holes the
Disney with Shya Shia Labouf. Yeah. I also have Bend
It like Beckham on my list. I really enjoyed Well Rider,
(45:18):
and then I was a huge fan of the whole
American Pie franchise, not the directive video movies but the
actual theatrical ones. And American Wedding came out that year, Uh,
and I enjoyed that. Most people probably shit on it,
but I didn't care. I liked it. And then uh,
we're finally getting a sequel to it, and I don't
know if it's necessary, but Freaky Friday came out in
(45:39):
two thousand and three. No shit, okay, peak, that was
Peak Lohan.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
And then a little independent film that I've only seen
a few times, but I'd like to go back and
see it because I haven't seen it a number of
years was a Party Monster with mcaulay Culkin and Seth
Green and Chloe Savanni. That was really good.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I'm I'm scrolling too beyond the list that I came
up with, I would add I forgot about Confidence. I
felt like Confidence was a pretty good little movie back
in two thousand and three. Oh, it's on two B
right now and go watch that. Yeah that's I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Think we mentioned it, but we did get the passing
of the another passing of the torch from Arnold Schwarzenegger
to Dwayne Johnson in The Rundown Rundown.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, The Rundown is a good one.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Twenty one. Anybody mention that, No, I like that one though. Yeah.
So I think two thousand and three was a pretty good,
pretty good year.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah. Gothica, Gothica, I love Gothica.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Biscuits version of Behind Blue Eyes yeah, yeah, I don't
think then appreciated it enough.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Another slept On film was one called Wonderland, which starred
Val Kilmer and Kate Bosworth about the uh the porn
star John Holmes.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
That was that was a I remember renting that one actually,
and then I really I think there's a lot of
good ones.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Pieces of April was really good with Katie Holmes.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah that instead of Elf.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
That performance wise, you probably made a better choice.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah no, yeah, that's actually one of her nice film performances.
I don't really think she has that many, but yeah,
it's a good one, all right.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I think that that wraps everything I have for the year.
In movies that we missed, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
I uh man, there were some big ones, but I
think sometimes and tell me if I'm wrong, fellas, but
sometimes it's nice to go back and go see ones
that like I kind of know, like you know, Return
to the King and parts of the Caribbean. But then
like we kind of hit some others that are like, oh,
you know what I would like to I don't really
(47:59):
remember that one. Is it as good as I remember?
Like I know, those are those are phenomenal, I don't
you know what I mean? Yeah, but but then maybe
we should also think about what people even know what
these movies are.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, fair enough. I did find too. That makes me
circle back to the Razzies Worst Picture nominees, and there's
two films I think we could have switched out, and
that's the Jessica Di Jessica Alba led Honey. That movie
was garbage. And then this is kind of where the
(48:32):
Farley Brothers start to fall off but stuck on you
two thousand three.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
I did not like that one. I thought it was
okayer and share.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
I haven't watched it since I thought you were gonna
say Dicky Roberts Chice.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I saw that that's a that's a solid choice to
be added.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
To dumb and dumber er. Yeah in there too.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, lepre Kahn. Back to the Hood came out in
two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Okay, that had to be straight to DVD. There's no
way that came out in theaters.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Probably. I have no idea. I've only seen the original,
the first one, so I couldn't tell you I've.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Seen a couple of them.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I will say, at the time of this recording, Lost
in Translation is still my favorite movie that I've seen
for the first time this year?
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Okay, was that two thousand and three?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Yeah, we did an episode on it, did an episode.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I just can't remember what year.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Of of everything you've seen this year.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
No, no, not of everything I've seen this year, but
but what I saw from two thousand and three for
the first time, I would agree.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Oh I see, Okay, Yeah, I think mine probably would
have been Return of the King was probably up there
two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Now, and I enjoyed match Stick Men that we did
earlier this year more than I thought I would see.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
There's a fine example. I I feel like a lot
of people have seen it. Not a lot of people know.
It's a it's a very under the radar kind of
Nicholas Cage performance. Ridley Scott directed it. So yeah, there
we go. I'm looking forward to next year. We kind
of been browsing and there's some some good, some heavy
hitters in there.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah there is.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
You guys got some off the top of your head
that uh that are sticking out.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Collateral, Yeah, Collateral is one that we were all talking about.
Ray Or Jamie Foxx.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yes, I would say that one. Ray the Incredibles for me.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Okay, Incredibles, Okay, I go Ray. Million Dollar Baby and
The Aviator were big Awards players that I have never
seen before.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
That Million Dollar Baby is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
I'd like to scope out.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, there are some good ones there.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Wes Anderson film two thousand and four.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Life Aquatic, Yeah, that could be fun. Fifty first dates,
we talked about maybe.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
A fun February wary episode for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Well, obviously wrap up Kill Bill volume two since we
did volume one.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah, and I haven't I watched Kill Bill Volume one
for the first time for this year's episode. I have
not watched volume two. I've been holding out for that episode.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
So and one one I would really love to revisit
is one of my favorite Washington movies. And that's Man
on Fire. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh fuck Mean Girls.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
I knew, I knew it. That's the one I saw
Mean Girls.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
And I told Brandon and Aura both because Aora has
been asking me about Garden State, and I said I
would be willing to bet money mcash is going to
put Garden State.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
On States on the list definitely. And why track alone.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
And why did you think he loves Zach brast I do.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
I do. I'm excited. So yeah. That that wraps up
two thousand and three for me, unless we have you
guys have something else to add to it.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
I've learned way too much about two thousand and three,
and if I didn't know any better, I've I don't
remember a whole lot. So I'm it's almost like I
wasn't born.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
That's right, But.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Anywhere watching your too busy watching Underworld, That's.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Right, that's right, So Underworld, Iraq War, mister perfect Dosa Hill.
What a year?
Speaker 1 (52:19):
What a year?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Is that? The is that the prequel to Jason Goes
to Hell?
Speaker 1 (52:23):
I think so? I think so could be?
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Could be.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
With that said, gentlemen, Stony Brandon, please tell these fine
folks how they can find you on the internet.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
At Stony Keeley on Twitter, at Sobros Network on all
major social media platforms.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
And at Sir Brandon V on Twitter and Sir Brandon
on Letterboxed if you got it, and.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
You can find me on Twitter at MC underscore Cast
seventy five. Happy New Year. Thanks for joining us again
as we recap the year that was two thousand and three,
Moving into next year two thousand and four. If you
have some films that you would like us to review
that are turning twenty one, please let us know and
do so by subscribing to Drinking With wherever you get
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your podcast fixed, leave us a note and review so
we know what you think about the show. Make sure
you go to Sobrosnetwork dot com where you can find
all of our work. And then cheers to another episode
of Drinking With, where we've explored the films that have
come of age, just like a fine wine. As we
raise our glass to movies turning twenty one, we've laughed,
we've reminisced, we haven't shed a tier two, but we
have reminded ourselves some things that we completely forgot about
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from the year that was two thousand and three. So
until next time, mayor drinks be cold, your conversations lively,
and your movie night's unforgettable. Drink responsibly, and remember age
is just a number, but great films are forever. And
we'll see you next time, especially next year, because I
have to return some videotapes
The Sobrose Network presents the movie podcast, breaking down films
and their impact on pop culture as they approach the
legal drinking age. This is Drinking With Now here's your host,
Steven m cash.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Ladies and gentlemen, Happy New year. Thanks for joining us
as we wrap up the year two thousand and three
with a little recap and review here on Drinking With
the podcast where we raise the glass to the movies
that have reached the legal drinking age. I'm your host,
Steve mccash or the Sobros Network, and join me as
we embark on a cinematic journey through the classics of yesteryear,
celebrating their twenty first birthdays in style. Now we're not
(00:55):
going through our normal format because this is the recap episode,
but we always have a drink that we discuss, which
we will have that as well. And I always have
two people by my side that helped me get through
this long discussion of films this year, this episode, the
year two thousand and three is what we'll discuss. So
joining me at the bar as always is the resident
(01:16):
film critic of the Sobros Network, mister Brandon Vick, who
is also a member of the Southeastern Film Critics Association,
a board member of the Music City Films Critics Association,
and most importantly, the birthgiver of the vix Flicks and
Cinema Chronicles podcast heard right here on the Sobros Network.
And joining him is the man, the myth, the legend
behind the Sobros Network, the heady I see the glue
(01:37):
of the brand, Jen aficionado, a Titans fan of none
other caliber, cat lover and all around football wordsmith, mister
Stony Keeley, gentlemen, Happy New Year's.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Happy New Year's. Mccash the warm introduction. As always, it
never it never feels bad, it always feels good. I
think two thousand and three was a pretty good year
for film, and I am excited to hit some of
the pictures that we didn't talk about on this podcast
this season.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I agree, I wish we had twelve more months.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yes, maybe we can, Maybe we can do it. Can
we just do it instead of two thousand and four,
We'll just do two thousand and three again, Part two. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I like that you said, uh, it's never bad, it's
always good. Uh. In describing my intro for you, that
is also how my my my sex life during my
single days was always referred to wiley old man. Can't
get anything by me?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
What I butchered it? Wiley oldcoot that.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I don't tell you're talking about wrinkly old man.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Is when I heard I'm gonna cut that part out.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I mean, at this point, I am mere weeks away
from turning the Big five. Oh so I kind of
fit that description as well. But prapulations and us and
three yeah, thank you. The National Championship game is on
my birthday, so happy Birthday to me is correct. But
in two thousand and three, I was a young, rye
(03:11):
little twenty eight year old running these streets and uh,
we're gonna discuss some of the big cultural events and
global events of the year, but mainly focused on movies
as well. But we have to have a drink. It's
so in my research of what all the things that
happened in two thousand and three, it was a lot.
There was a lot of dark, dark things going on
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in the world. It was a bit of a stormy
year as well. And with that, we're gonna do the
RUM classic dark and stormy, mainly because RUM was the
largest had the largest market share of any spirits sold
in the United States in the year two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yep, he surprised by that. I feel like people sleep
on rum around here. It's a lot of whiskey Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
There's it's only because pirates drink room.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
A and had big there. You go to the Caribbean movie,
I got it connected dots.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I'll be honest with you, I had no fucking idea
The Pirates of the Caribbean that was.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That was a big, big deal two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
It's a movie.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yes, yes, are you thinking about that other Pirates movie.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That you could rant it Blockbuster?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, they may have said it in that one.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Possibly, But like I said, the drink is the dark
and stormy. It's real simple. You take two ounces of rum,
You're gonna have some ginger beer on the side, and
you're gonna add ice into a ross glass, pour the
two ounces of rum over the ice, and then add
a splash of ginger beer garnish with the lime wedge,
and there you have your dark and stormy.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
That is that is nice, right, especially this time of year.
Ginger beer warms you up a little bit. The rum
warms you up a little bit. That's a good almost
like a take on a Moscow mule there, it sounds.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Like a little close to it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Ye. Well, the year two thousand and three was marked
by some significant events across the globe in politics, entertainment, technology,
and culture. Got a little brief recap for you. Let's
talk global events. We had the Iraq War. One of
the most defining events of two thousand and three was
the invasion of Iraq by the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Boy, we are starting off on a heavy note.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's why that That's why I said dark
and stormy was chosen for a reason.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, that's defining, defining time period in our lives. Because
we Brandon and I were juniors in high school. Now
well no, actually we would have been seniors in the
fall semester of two thousand and three and going to
Wilson Central High School the school's ROTC program, and we
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had we had people that we went to high school
with when we were in high school that ended up
being deployed to Iraq for the Iraq War that started
this year. It's kind of crazy to look back on
that and think all this is going on while we're
in sitting in the theaters watching.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
ELF and isn't it still going on?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think so, yeah, I'm talking about Oh gotcha. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So we didn't have the draft during the days of
the Iraq War, but you guys were in that prime
age range to be drafted if we had one. How
do you guys both think at that time? You would
have fared if you had to been drafted.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
I would have too, fat.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, I had a I have one of my leg
bones is actually a fishing rod.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I do remember thinking like I I have asthma, so
I maybe I won't have to go.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Also, we're only children.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We're only children. I was. I was terrified of the prospects.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I don't think. I don't think any I think besides
a war going on and what you watched on TV,
I really just had no there was I had no
damn clue. To be honest, there was.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
There was a time in my life when I wanted
to join the army and my parents wouldn't let me.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Was that after or before G I Jane?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Was after after G I Jane? Because I'm pretty sure G.
I Jane came out when I was six years old.
I wasn't begging my parents to join the army. But once,
you know, I think this was probably like sophomore year,
I started talking about, hey, you know, I might I
might be interested in this, serve your country and all
that stuff, and my parents were like, no, son, you're
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not gonna oh, you won't be doing that. You're not
gonna do that at all, and they talked me out
of it. And then once the Iraq War started, I
remember thinking, stony, you fucking idiot. What if you had
find up to join the army and then this happened,
and you want to talk about a dramatic change in
the complexion of my life, that probably probably would have
(08:01):
done it. So I, after kind of coming to my
senses a little bit, I felt like I was terrified
of the draft because I was pretty sure. I filled
out some paper that said, yes, the army can contact me,
I am interested, like through our OTC at school, like
one of those like job fairs or whatever is Yes,
(08:22):
I might be interested in this, contact me. And then
two years later, a senior year, when the Iraq War
is starting off, I'm like, oh God, I hope they
threw that form out.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
If they call I ain't answering.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So besides, besides besides not being a patriot. What else
did you discover.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Two thousand and three the film Underworld.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In that order, hate patriotism and Kate beckins.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Let's keep the happy trade rolling. In February, we had
the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Oh shit, Yeah, I didn't think that was two thousand
and three.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That led to a lengthy investigation and significant change in
NASA's space program.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, Elon Musk, Elon Musk bought it. Yeah, I think
that happened.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And then outside of the States, but it kind of
found its way here.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
We had the stars outbreak that began in Asia in
two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The sun. The sun's starting to shine here. Uh. Going
back to the Iraq War in December of two thousand Look,
in December of two thousand and three, the former Iraqi
president Suddam Hussein was captured by US forces, making a
significant movement or moment in the Iraqi War.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Hell, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Not all bad, not all bad.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
No, but the question still remains, did he even do
in anything with nine to eleven?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Do we want to?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Are we?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Is it about to be one.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Of those just I'm saying it's drinking with not thinking
with guys.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He even dead?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Is he even dead?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I just remember that pulling that taking his statue statue down.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's a big thing.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I believe the quote is mister Gorbajeff, tear down that statue.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
If you don't tear down that statue, we'll put a
boot in the rest. It's the American we have.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We have some influential UH youth listening to this podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So off Toby Keith.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
So unfortunately I was the wrong president, wrong UH country's
leader in wrong war.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But I think my song is pretty Yeah. I think
that adds up.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
We heard something here. We're just written on history.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, this is how McGill was born.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
In two thousand and three. Another highlight. I remember a
Toby Key song. He would be like, hey, uncle Sam,
but them on the top of his list, Statue of
Liberty started shaking her fists. And I would always say,
statue of Liberty story shaking her tiths. And if that
ain't American, I don't know what that's. So you're booting
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the statue of liberty.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You have that movement, the q movement for qan QAnon.
So if the sobros had its version of that. What
letter would we be?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Damn? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
We had our own conspiracies out there.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
W let's see W is nice for a Why?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Why?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why? Why?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Why?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Works?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yea?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Why?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah? I like that. Let's start the y movement?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Why not? Why not? Why not? So it was a
big year in two thousand and three for technology because
this is the year where we began to get really
fucking stupid as a society. Because this is the year
Tom and his buddies created MySpace. No shit, yep, all
(12:16):
of us had our eight top friends beginning in two
thousand and three. That's when the social networking began to
take off with the launch of my Space, which quickly
became one of the most popular social media platforms at
this time, shaping the future of online social interaction and
given the twenty eight year old Steven the slight ability
to code.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I was always late to the party. I like, I
would sign up from MySpace, but it was like a
year or two Facebook, same thing, it was like years later.
I don't know if texting was invented yet, but that
was also something I refused to do for a long time. Yes,
but oh my space with your top eight and then
(12:59):
you could put like, couldn't you do theme songs or something?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Oh? Yeah, you could. You could have a playlist that
went on that played on. You could.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
That's what it was. That's what it was. I guess
the playlist part.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You could use different codes to like, you know, configure
your page.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's what I understand your coding joke.
Now it took me a minute.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Bit.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Holy shit, you're right, you could.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's how I learned to code. That's how that's how
I built all of the websites that I have that
don't exist. But yeah, do you guys remember any of
your top eight friends from those MySpace days?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I don't know that I had a MySpace until two
thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I just told him I was late to the game
on MySpace, Facebook, texting, Twitter. I think it was. Yes,
I think I do, only because it was mainly the
people in high school.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I remember my my now ex wife and Barack Obama
were my one two. That's all I remember. They were
my two best friends. On my face.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I had Brandon our buddy, Brett Ye Andrew buddy, Andrew
our buddy.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Mac Mark.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I think I don't Remember if I would have had
Mark on there, remember our buddy Zach, And then I
don't know, probably some girl.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I was gonna say, I don't even know if we
had any girls on there, But if you liked a girl,
that was the way you did.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's how you made your move back in the day.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, you didn't have to touch them at all, just
put them. All you have to do is put them
in the top eight and you see it and it's like,
oh man.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And then but the drama that would unfold if you
move somebody out of their their spot or drop them.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You knew it was happening.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, So that's enough about thinking about how we were
trying to hit the ladies up. In two thousand and three,
let's talk sports. There was a big year in sports.
Tom brady dominance in the NFL continued. Yeah, it's been
twenty one years ago and he was still balling. You
had Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl with the uh no,
(15:16):
not Tom Brady. Excuse me. I was thinking that Tom
Brady years uh in Tampa Bay. But instead it was
the Tampa Bay Bucks, not the New England Patriots that
won the Super Bowl over the Oakland Raiders. At that
time forty eight twenty one. Yeah, that that Super Bowl
halftime show was highlighted by Shania Twain. No doubt in
(15:36):
sting that that lineup makes no sense together at all.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I didn't even realize that was a thing. Holy shit,
that is.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Very I honestly don't remember that sting and who no doubt. Wow,
Michael Jordan played his last NBA game that that season
going into two two thousand and three, and then as
two thousand and three is going into the two thousand
and four season. The latest entry into the goat conversation,
(16:08):
Lebron James was drafted straight out of high school by
his hometown Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh yeah, yep, the rightful goat in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Don't start down that right won't do it.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
No, first of the dam Hussein, Now this, how dare you?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
That hairline, that receding hairline might be the greatest all time.
But that's about it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Stockton was he still playing in two thousand and three.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I think the Melman and his little buddy John Stockton
had wrapped things up.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
By that little buddy, John, you were so disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Look talk about disrespect. Barry Bonds became the first Major
League baseball player to hit five hundred home runs and
still five hundred bases during the two thousand and three
baseball season. The goat, well, the goat at putting needles
in his butt probably.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, gotta be first in So.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Come on, at some point we'll talk about people who
turned twenty one years of age that year, who were
born that year that are now twenty one. But there
were two really young high school age people who who
made a splash on the world sporting scene. And that's
one Lionel Messi, who debuted for FC Barcelona at the
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age of sixteen, that's two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
God, yeah, eight yeah, one of the greatest, oh my god,
to ever do it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
And another, arguably goat and football slash soccer, is Cristiano Ronaldo.
He debuted for Portugal that year at eighteen.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So that's the game.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, that's in the age range of what you guys
were at that time. Does that make you feel bad
that you didn't accomplish things like they did it?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That? No, asshole? Did you not hear us? We went
to see Underworld.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
We were backyard wrestling. Yeah, tell me we love Yeah, Jesus,
I was jopping.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You were out there.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, okay, Well, let's transition to team sports and how
they fared. Ohio State beat Miami thirty one to twenty
four in the Fiesta Ball to win the national Championship
that year, and baseball you had the Florida Marlins defeating
the New York Yankees four games too to win the
World Series. The San Antonio Spurs, behind Tim Duncan, won
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the NBA Finals over the New Jersey Nets in six games.
The New Jersey Devils, though, did right the ship by
winning the Stanley Cup over the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.
And lastly, in team sports, Syracuse beat Kansas and the
men's basketball National Championship game. I remember none of that
of the.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Sport and a good year for New Jersey sports, I guess.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, yeah, a little good in bat.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I bet your wife remembers it finally maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I think she was a Nets fan when I think,
I think they were a Nets family when the Nets
were still in New Jersey, so probably would have been
supporting the team during that run.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yea, and the Devils.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And the Devils, yeah, people still like the Devils.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Lastly, in sports, something I don't think we've ever talked
about on this podcast. Uh is the m m A
the UFC. Both Tank Abbot and Frank Shamrock returned to
the octagon after years long absences.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And Tank Abbott had that run in w c W.
Frank Shamrock was.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That former Intercontinental champion Frank or Ken Ken Ken was
the former Intercontinental champion.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah, did Ken Shamrock come back?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Oh did I say Frank?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I did say Frank.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh shit, I forgot there were two Shamrocks for a second.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah. Ken Shamrock was was hard. I liked him like
that late nineties run with the intercontinental title, that rivalry
with the Rock and hell yeah, had some really good
matches with Steve Black. That was That was a good
run for Ken Shamrock.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I always remember what was it that woman that played
his sister or whatever, and he was you can slap me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Slap him at ringside?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I forgot about that? Was that Tory No somebody rock?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Ryan Shamrock was the program with Valvenus.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
That's it I was with. I thought it was Billy
Gunn or Valvenus makes sense before that before kind I
chopped it off. Yeah, Oh my god. I hope he's okay.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Two thousand and threes. WrestleMania was one of my favorites
of all time too. That was the year it was.
While we're on this, wrestling, Yeah, go ahead, the Angle,
Lesnar main event, Hogan McMahon street Fight, Austin Rock three,
Triple h and Booker t the controversial storyline X nineteen
X it was nineteen. It was they went from X
(20:53):
seven X eight.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And then.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
They went back to the to the Roman numerals, so
it was X. I.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
That was a good one.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What else do you guys want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, I've got nothing to add to that because I
remember nothing about wrestling in two thousand and three. But
music had a big year, and we'll briefly get into
that before we move on to films. The Dixie Chicks
backlash happened in March, when lead singer Natalie Maine tells
a London audience, as we all remember, just so you know,
we're shamed. The President of the United States is from Texas.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Boy, that got you canceled back the words. Yeah, God,
there's nothing. If they said it today then no one
would even cover it.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
No, okay?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
They were dropped from all country radio playlists and received
death threats for years ahead, years going forward. Uh. They
eventually made up with country radio as they became known
as the Chicks. At that point, that was a weird time.
I'm not a big country fan, but I really like
the Dixie Chicks.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I never get into him.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean, I like, like Earl had to die in
a couple of others, but then that was it. I
didn't really If you ain't, I'm a Vince Gill listener.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Vince Gill kind of country.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, I don't want don't don't give me no two
thousands nothing. Yeah, I'm coming with you the Vince Gill
and Randy Travis.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Me some Johnny Cash, hell yeah, George Jones, George Jones,
some Alabama, Yeah, Hank Williams Junior.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Give me some Alan Jackson. I like him. Yeah, yeah,
I should have said Garth at the top.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I think the Dixie Chicks were kind of one of
the acts that ushered in a new era for country
that I didn't I just didn't really didn't really vibe with.
Especially now to see what country has become today, Oh
my god, I'm kind.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Of all the ways post Malone country.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, you know what, they say, when you need to
when you need to write a check, you come to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That's true. He's cash. He's straight up cashing jelly.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Roll, tolling in cash. Speaking of and cash. In two
thousand and three, the biggest show on television was American
Idol and it wrapped up in second season that year
with Ruben Stuttern Ruben stutter yep taking it home the
bars he did, and then you had one of the
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most iconic events or moments in MTV history when you
had the kiss that passed the torch happened at the
MTV Video Awards between Madonna, Brittany and Christina That was
very controversial.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yes it was, Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That something even more controversial versal and damaging to his legacy.
Two thousand and three was the year that Michael Jackson
was arrested on child molestation charges.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Man, I yeah, I remember that happening in it being
kind of a it felt like a bombshell thing to
a teenager that didn't really understand that situation, but it
sounded like a thing that a lot of people there
were apparently like looking back on it as an adult,
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like a lot of inclinations that there was some weird
stuff going on, and it's just kind of crazy to
think how like younger minds can kind of perceive that stuff.
Like for us, it's like, oh my god. At the time,
I remember being like, holy shit, what And then now
that I'm an adult going back, you watch the documentaries
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on it, and it's like, oh, yeah, like this is
this has been one of those things that people just
never really talked about.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, two things that people really talked about two thousand
and three and music were two debuts that had major
commercial success. You had the debut of Beyonce's debut solo album,
Dangerously in Love, which featured the big hit Crazy in Love,
and then you also had Get Rich or Die Trying
from fifty cent. Those are two of the biggest albums
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in the year two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Hell yeah, that album, I remark in the Club was everywhere.
It was like the precursor when in the Club died.
Yeah by Usher took over. Yeah, and it was like
for just a two year period, it's just those two
songs and then some.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Hey y'a from the Outcast came came behind us.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
But transitioning to film, which is what we do the most,
talk about the most here. Obviously, the highest grossing film
from the year two thousand and three was obviously Lord
of the Rings the Return of the King that brought
in a little over one point one billion dollars at
the box office.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Crazy run yep.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And then a second behind it and also became the
GROS highest grossing animated film of all time was Finding
Nemo that we did earlier this year. You can go
back and listen to that episode with over eight hundred
and seventy million dollars. Yeah, crazy year. And then I'd
also like to add in something political from the entertainment
world that happened that year. We got the swearing in
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of the Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in California. Yeah, that was
two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Damn yep. Wow, he's just coming off of Collateral Damage.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Do you see why you left offset.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
From collateral damage and into public office.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So before we get into discussing transition, really before we get.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Into discussing the movies of two thousand and three that
we really liked it that we didn't talk about on
this podcast, let's recap some of the awards season and
I'm mainly just going to focus on the Oscars here.
The Oscars took place February twenty ninth to two thousand
and four, obviously rewarding the films from two thousand and
three Best Film. Do we know what that is? Off
top head? Yeah, K the King absolutely, and then obviously
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Peter Jackson brought home the award for Best Director for
Lord of the Rings. You had Sean Penn winning for
Mystic River that we talked about earlier this year, as
well for Supporting Actor Tim Robbins for his role in
Mystic River. Now, we did discuss a Charlie's Theron movie
earlier this year when it came to the Italian Job,
(27:14):
but we didn't discuss her Oscar winning performance from Monster
that she won Best Actress for and then for Best
Supporting Actress. I've never seen Cold Mountain, but Renees Zall
Lugger brought home that award.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's a good one.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
All movies that I have not seen that I jotted
down as Oscar winners, we talked about Monster, Cold Mountain.
I'd like to catch those two.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Because Cole Mountain was great from I remember it was great.
It was her Nicole Kidman and Jude Law. Yeah, and
the guy that I think the director of The English
Patient did that one.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I know, Charlie's Starren's performance in Monster like a physical transformation,
but probably in my lifetime anyway, I can think of
as one of the few, like holy shit, captivating performances,
one of the one of the acting performances you've got
to see before you die kind of deal. So I should,
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I should make a priority of that to get on.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's good. Christina Ricci is good in it too.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Uh, let's go from good to bad when it comes
to film awards, And let's talk about the two thousand
and three Razzie Awards. Your Worst Picture nominees. I'm gonna
give you the nominees for the for Worst Picture. You
have The Real CanCon, which I've never seen, and I
don't know if I've heard you have from Justin to Kelly. Yeah,
(28:39):
I know what that is, but I've never seen it.
You have Gelie, Cat in the Hats and Charlie's Angels
Full Throttle. What film brought home the award for Worst
Picture at the Razzies.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Gelie. I liked the Cat and the hat by the way,
Ken the Hat's kind of creepy, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Jillie was your winner for Worst Picture, and then Worst
Actor went to Ben Affleck for a trio of films.
He did Jillie, Daredevil and Paycheck.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Okay, you know what, Let's kick a man when he's down.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That's tough scene. Yeah, I'm okay with the Gilie and
even the Daredevil.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Maybe Paychecks Paycheck's fine?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Do we need to revisit that one.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I don't know about that, but because I remember.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I remember liking that at the time.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I remember it's a very generic action. I don't even
think I enjoyed it. I thought it was sort of
mediocre then, so I'm sure it hasn't changed.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Then the hits the awards kept coming for Jillie at
the Razzies. Your Worst Actress was Jennifer Lopez for her
role in the film, and then it also won Worst
Director for Martin Briest taking the helm behind the camera
for Jilie. But you're supporting actor and actress, you had
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Sylvester Stallone and Spy Kids three D and then another
eighties legend uh for best for Worst Supporting Actress was
Demi Moore and Charlie's Angels.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
I don't even remember she was the villain. But I
don't remember that movie being that bad.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
But I don't remember if I ever saw it, to
be honest.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't remember it being that bad either.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
We should visit The Real King Coon because I've never
I've never ever I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I've never gone back and watched it. I remember it
as another Real can Coon.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, oh, you remember it, like a real world type?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, I think so, it's like a Realmick kind.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Of Oh god, I still don't remember it.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
But it's not like I remember thinking I'm gonna have
to look it up now. The Real can Coon two
thousand and three film, American reality film, uh and fired
by the reality television genre. And like the thing is
is it a spoof? I don't know if it's a spoof,
but it's like it's supposed to be like a sexy
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movie basically, like they capitalized it Kingcuns spring Break thing,
and it's.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Probably should have won a rasing.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, we'll we'll have to watch it.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
It takes I mean, it takes some kind of thing
to put GELI together. Yes, I mean, come on.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So, lastly, I want to talk about before we just
get further into the movies we loved and missed on
two thousand and three, let's talk about some of the
people we lost in two thousand and three. And I
remember twenty sixteen being a big, a big loss for
entertainment with Prince David Bowie, George Michael, and so many
others that we lost that year two thousand and three.
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Right off the bat, I've got two iconic names and entertainment.
Johnny Cash passed away in two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Three, oh damn.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
And Fred Rogers aka Mister Rogers was lost that year
as well.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, and Johnny Cash, if I'm not mistaken. The three
was when the album came out that had Hurt On.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the way I think right after it
was released.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, because that music video, I think he was dead.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The music video.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
That, Yeah, it's quite haunted. It's in black and white.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It is.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, So it's kind of like one of those surreal,
surreal moments of the time if.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You think about it in the same way God got
two Angels.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Hey, there you go, Because what a nice way to
frame that.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Because also in two thousand and three, we lost June
Carter Cash.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, geez, that's right. She went shortly after he did.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yep. We also lost Nina Simone Berry White, the hysterical
John Ritter, the legendary Greg Yeah, Gregory Peck was lost,
the young Jesus Come on the teen actor Jonathan Brandis
(33:10):
passed away. Uh. And then the iconic Catherine Hepburn and
Bob Bob Hope both passed away in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Jeez.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And then we had Robert Palmer, the and Maurice Gibb
of The Beg's passed away. Gregory Hines, the iconic cat dancer,
and actor Nel Carter from Give Me a Break. I
used to love that show when I was a kid.
He passed away. And then two icons and w W
Hall of Famers, Miss Elizabeth and mister Perfect Kurt Hitting
(33:41):
both passed away in two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Wow, you know, I knew it. I knew it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I met mister Perfect right before he does, as soon
as he was very rude to me. And I'm just saying,
maybe it's karma.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Don't get on Brandon's batside.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Oh boy, don't let them listen. When I saw him
at the airport, he was here. It's when one of
the blackberries, and he would not look up and I
was like, hey, are you mister perfect, and he kind
of smirked and said yeah again, never looked at me, nothing.
And I asked him about like WWE or something, which
I think he had just been fired from WE, so
maybe he was pissed, but he didn't say anything, didn't
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look up, nothing. And then an old country singer named
Mark Chestnut walks up and let me tell you, mister
Perfect couldn't shut the fuck up. So anyway, Mark Chestnut
still alive.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I think, yeah, so maybe that's a lesson learned that
you need to come with some swagger to talk to
mister purfect exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
And also, I'm going to go in and say it.
When he died, I'm not sure if he's an angel,
even though he's perfect exactly, wasn't perfect to me.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I remember, excuse me, you can tell my voices starting
to slip. I remember the John Ritter death because John
Cena got in trouble for making fun of it. Making
fun of it in one of his freestyles on SmackDown.
He said something about call me call me something like
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John Ritter and did not go over well with the
executives of the I think it was up N at
the time, who also had like one of his sitcoms,
And I think it.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Was simple rules. Yeah, and like he literally like they
who came in for him? Was it David Spade?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I think I think what a wonderful replacement that was.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, I'll give you a heart attack like Jack Tripper dropped.
Is the line he dropped in the in the wrap,
the freestyle that really really uh bad taste, bad tastes,
bad taste.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's funny you say that, because a line like that
would get a lot of people in the WW at
that time just released and fired at John Cena. Wasn't
John Cena in two thousand and three, So it's kind
of shocking that you haunt the hanchos at UPN didn't say, Hey,
well we need you guys to get rid of here.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I'm sorry that line was censored. Oh was it what
he actually said in the wrap? John Cena is more
American than silicone strippers leaving cats dead in their tracks
with heart attacks like John Ritter.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Okay, now that whoo, that is pretty clever. How did
you say the whole line there? Yeah, well keep in
mind vince Mentmahon. First of all, probably didn't give a shit.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
He's too busy shitting on somebody's chest, right.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Sena was a heel at the time.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm sure he brought in some kind of money. So yeah,
but I mean he got heat. Yeah, did he get heat?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And then the network said, hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
You do this ship again. You're gonna do the marine
and then come to find out he ended up having
to the marine when I think he did like three
other marines? Is that the miss.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I feel like, didn't Randy Orton do? No, he did
a difference.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
He did twelve rounds.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Twelve rounds.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, he's done cold did something and yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
All of that because John Cena mentioned John.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, well John Ridders, John Ritter, He's he was a
national treasure.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
He was. There's some national treasures that turned twenty one
in two thousand and three, including Kristen Dunce yep, the
original American idol. Kelly Clarkson turned twenty one that year. Uh,
and Anna Paquin turned twenty one?
Speaker 1 (37:51):
What never happened to her?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
She did True Blood?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, you had Lil Wayne turning twenty one? Hell yeah, hey,
older he was probably smoking weed with Seth Rogan, who
also turned twenty one that year, and then a sexy,
sexy little trio really that turned twenty one in two
thousand and three, Sienna Miller, Jessica Bill and Anne Hathaway.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
What I thought you were gonna say, lows lonely boys.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I wish.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I mean, there's a ton of people this year in
two thousand and three that turned twenty one, including the
situation from the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Oh damn, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Comedian Whitney Cummings, Kieran Culkin, and Eddie Redmain. I'll turn
twenty one, And.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I didn't realize Eddie Redmain was that old.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, it looks like just he still looks like a
young boy.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
He does.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Lastly, I have there wasn't a lot of people at
this point in life fucking in two thousand and two,
two thousand and three that created high caliber celebrities that
are now turning twenty one in twenty twenty four. You
do have a few. You have Olivia Rodrigo, who turned
twenty one this year. Nice pop star Tate McRae turns
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twenty one this year. Olympic gold medalist gymnast Sunny Lee,
who we just saw have great success in Paris, turned
twenty one this year, and the somewhat controversial hard to
figure out Jojo Siwa turned twenty one this year. Okay, yeah,
not a not a outside of Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
And I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed with these parents
who had sex back then and brought and brought these people.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
To life bloomers.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah that's true too, che yep.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So, gentlemen, what films do we want to talk about
from two thousand and three that maybe we didn't get
a chance to just scus this.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Year, So I'm kind of surprised that we didn't talk
about some of these. I felt like it was a
big year for franchises. In addition to Return of the King,
you had the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie that
came out, The Curse of the Black Pearl X two
X Men United. You had two Fast Too, Furious, Terminator three,
The Matrix Revolutions, Bad Boys two were all in two
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thousand and three. So it felt like it was a
big summer for the for the franchise.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Really really really popular movies that we decided not to dis.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yes exactly and I will add one to that. One
hundred and one Dalmatians two Patches London Adventure came out
in January of two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Had no idea, had no idea?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Was that?
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Was that an animated one?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, it is probably straight to I.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Think it went straight to Disney Channel.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I really liked Return of the King. It's one of
my favorite movies. I liked Pirates of the Caribbean a
lot too, the first one. Yep, outside of that.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Franchise fodder, Yeah, I don't really care about the rest,
but those two in particular are as good as it
gets with well films, but also just like franchises and blockbusters.
Black Pearl was so it just was so cool. Yeah,
and Johnny Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow, I mean it was awesome.
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But yeah, Return of the King what an epic, epic film,
and it deserved every award. I think it.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Swept thirteen Oscars or something like that.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
It's one of the very few.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Another sequel that was also epic that Disney put out
that year was Inspector gadget To.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Oh yeah, could where you get where?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You had French Stewart taking over for Matthew Broderick in
the title role man Boy.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
I wonder how good that did.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I don't even remember that movie.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I bet you it was.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
As far as like best of the rest. I would mention,
I don't I don't know how it holds up, but
I at the time really enjoyed Bruce Almighty. Thought it
was a fun flick.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I think it's still funny.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I would put Anger Management in that category as well.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's an one I agree.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And then I haven't seen The Last Samurai, but I
was surprised to see that it made as much money
as it did at the box office. Really liked Mastering
Commander Seabiscuit came out that year. I wasn't that big
of a fan of it. I didn't think it lived
up to the hype. The Cooler was a fun little
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movie from three. I liked Underworld at the time. I
still think it's a fun, cheesy vampire were wolf action movie.
Loved Open Range. I would mention what I think is
an underrated, forgotten animated film called Brother Bear came out
in three.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, last Academy Award.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Lastly, I would mention one of my favorite films of
all time as well, Big Fish in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
I Last Samurai is one of the best, certainly one
of the Tom Cruise's very best. Yeah films, it's really good.
I haven't seen it in a long time. But I
also Open Range. I know, uh oh, yeah, I love
that movie. I know Kevin Costner hasn't didn't have a
(43:27):
real good go this year with his Horizon, but Open
Range is one of his best westerns. It also has
a Net Binning and Robert Devall. I liked Open Water.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Oh that was good.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
I thought that was a fun one. I don't know
why Stoney didn't see it, and then I feel like
it's probably cheesy, but uh and you'll appreciate this. Actually,
did we do it? We didn't do Runaway Drury, did we?
Speaker 1 (43:56):
We did not.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
That's a John Cusack movie.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
That's Rachel Julie Roberts movie. So that's a hard note
for me.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
No, it is not. She is not in that movie,
Is she not? You're thinking of Runaway Bride? Rachel Weiss
is in it. Dustin Hoffman, Gene Hackman. That was a
good one. I'm looking Underworld was was was a fun movie.
I agree with Stony how to Lose a Guy in
Ten Days.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yes, I that was two thousand and three. Yeah, yep,
oh wait, no, I'm thinking of ten things and that's
days was McConaughey and Kate.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Conaughey and Hudson.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah, yeah, really liked, uh, really like those. I know,
well you talked about Bruce Almighty that. I think that's
still one of Jim Carrey's best, especially kind of towards
the end of when he was actually doing movies.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, what about what about you mccash What are some
of yours?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
So I'm kind of scrolling as well because I I
can't find the ones that I wrote down, but some
that I've got off the top of my head. I
really because I read the book. I like Holes the
Disney with Shya Shia Labouf. Yeah. I also have Bend
It like Beckham on my list. I really enjoyed Well Rider,
(45:18):
and then I was a huge fan of the whole
American Pie franchise, not the directive video movies but the
actual theatrical ones. And American Wedding came out that year, Uh,
and I enjoyed that. Most people probably shit on it,
but I didn't care. I liked it. And then uh,
we're finally getting a sequel to it, and I don't
know if it's necessary, but Freaky Friday came out in
(45:39):
two thousand and three. No shit, okay, peak, that was
Peak Lohan.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
And then a little independent film that I've only seen
a few times, but I'd like to go back and
see it because I haven't seen it a number of
years was a Party Monster with mcaulay Culkin and Seth
Green and Chloe Savanni. That was really good.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I'm I'm scrolling too beyond the list that I came
up with, I would add I forgot about Confidence. I
felt like Confidence was a pretty good little movie back
in two thousand and three. Oh, it's on two B
right now and go watch that. Yeah that's I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Think we mentioned it, but we did get the passing
of the another passing of the torch from Arnold Schwarzenegger
to Dwayne Johnson in The Rundown Rundown.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, The Rundown is a good one.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Twenty one. Anybody mention that, No, I like that one though. Yeah.
So I think two thousand and three was a pretty good,
pretty good year.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah. Gothica, Gothica, I love Gothica.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Biscuits version of Behind Blue Eyes yeah, yeah, I don't
think then appreciated it enough.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Another slept On film was one called Wonderland, which starred
Val Kilmer and Kate Bosworth about the uh the porn
star John Holmes.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
That was that was a I remember renting that one actually,
and then I really I think there's a lot of
good ones.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Pieces of April was really good with Katie Holmes.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah that instead of Elf.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
That performance wise, you probably made a better choice.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah no, yeah, that's actually one of her nice film performances.
I don't really think she has that many, but yeah,
it's a good one, all right.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
I think that that wraps everything I have for the year.
In movies that we missed, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
I uh man, there were some big ones, but I
think sometimes and tell me if I'm wrong, fellas, but
sometimes it's nice to go back and go see ones
that like I kind of know, like you know, Return
to the King and parts of the Caribbean. But then
like we kind of hit some others that are like, oh,
you know what I would like to I don't really
(47:59):
remember that one. Is it as good as I remember?
Like I know, those are those are phenomenal, I don't
you know what I mean? Yeah, but but then maybe
we should also think about what people even know what
these movies are.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, fair enough. I did find too. That makes me
circle back to the Razzies Worst Picture nominees, and there's
two films I think we could have switched out, and
that's the Jessica Di Jessica Alba led Honey. That movie
was garbage. And then this is kind of where the
(48:32):
Farley Brothers start to fall off but stuck on you
two thousand three.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
I did not like that one. I thought it was
okayer and share.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
I haven't watched it since I thought you were gonna
say Dicky Roberts Chice.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I saw that that's a that's a solid choice to
be added.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
To dumb and dumber er. Yeah in there too.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, lepre Kahn. Back to the Hood came out in
two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
Okay, that had to be straight to DVD. There's no
way that came out in theaters.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Probably. I have no idea. I've only seen the original,
the first one, so I couldn't tell you I've.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
Seen a couple of them.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I will say, at the time of this recording, Lost
in Translation is still my favorite movie that I've seen
for the first time this year?
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Okay, was that two thousand and three?
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Yeah, we did an episode on it, did an episode.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I just can't remember what year.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Of of everything you've seen this year.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
No, no, not of everything I've seen this year, but
but what I saw from two thousand and three for
the first time, I would agree.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Oh I see, Okay, Yeah, I think mine probably would
have been Return of the King was probably up there
two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Now, and I enjoyed match Stick Men that we did
earlier this year more than I thought I would see.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
There's a fine example. I I feel like a lot
of people have seen it. Not a lot of people know.
It's a it's a very under the radar kind of
Nicholas Cage performance. Ridley Scott directed it. So yeah, there
we go. I'm looking forward to next year. We kind
of been browsing and there's some some good, some heavy
hitters in there.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah there is.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
You guys got some off the top of your head
that uh that are sticking out.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Collateral, Yeah, Collateral is one that we were all talking about.
Ray Or Jamie Foxx.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yes, I would say that one. Ray the Incredibles for me.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Okay, Incredibles, Okay, I go Ray. Million Dollar Baby and
The Aviator were big Awards players that I have never
seen before.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
That Million Dollar Baby is one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
I'd like to scope out.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, there are some good ones there.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Wes Anderson film two thousand and four.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Life Aquatic, Yeah, that could be fun. Fifty first dates,
we talked about maybe.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
A fun February wary episode for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Well, obviously wrap up Kill Bill volume two since we
did volume one.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah, and I haven't I watched Kill Bill Volume one
for the first time for this year's episode. I have
not watched volume two. I've been holding out for that episode.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
So and one one I would really love to revisit
is one of my favorite Washington movies. And that's Man
on Fire. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh fuck Mean Girls.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
I knew, I knew it. That's the one I saw
Mean Girls.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
And I told Brandon and Aura both because Aora has
been asking me about Garden State, and I said I
would be willing to bet money mcash is going to
put Garden State.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
On States on the list definitely. And why track alone.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
And why did you think he loves Zach brast I do.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
I do. I'm excited. So yeah. That that wraps up
two thousand and three for me, unless we have you
guys have something else to add to it.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
I've learned way too much about two thousand and three,
and if I didn't know any better, I've I don't
remember a whole lot. So I'm it's almost like I
wasn't born.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
That's right, But.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Anywhere watching your too busy watching Underworld, That's.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
Right, that's right, So Underworld, Iraq War, mister perfect Dosa Hill.
What a year?
Speaker 1 (52:19):
What a year?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Is that? The is that the prequel to Jason Goes
to Hell?
Speaker 1 (52:23):
I think so? I think so could be?
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Could be.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
With that said, gentlemen, Stony Brandon, please tell these fine
folks how they can find you on the internet.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
At Stony Keeley on Twitter, at Sobros Network on all
major social media platforms.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
And at Sir Brandon V on Twitter and Sir Brandon
on Letterboxed if you got it, and.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
You can find me on Twitter at MC underscore Cast
seventy five. Happy New Year. Thanks for joining us again
as we recap the year that was two thousand and three,
Moving into next year two thousand and four. If you
have some films that you would like us to review
that are turning twenty one, please let us know and
do so by subscribing to Drinking With wherever you get
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your podcast fixed, leave us a note and review so
we know what you think about the show. Make sure
you go to Sobrosnetwork dot com where you can find
all of our work. And then cheers to another episode
of Drinking With, where we've explored the films that have
come of age, just like a fine wine. As we
raise our glass to movies turning twenty one, we've laughed,
we've reminisced, we haven't shed a tier two, but we
have reminded ourselves some things that we completely forgot about
(53:27):
from the year that was two thousand and three. So
until next time, mayor drinks be cold, your conversations lively,
and your movie night's unforgettable. Drink responsibly, and remember age
is just a number, but great films are forever. And
we'll see you next time, especially next year, because I
have to return some videotapes
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