Ep. 72: Drinking With...Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
The Sobros Network presents the Movie podcast, breaking down films
and their impact on pop culture as they approach the
legal drinking age. This is Drinking With Now. Here's your host,
Steven m cash.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to Drinking With, the podcast where we raise a
glass to the movies that have reached the legal drinking age.
I'm your host, Stephen mccash or the Sobros Network, and
join me as we embark on a cinematic journey through
the classics of yesteryear, celebrating films that are turning twenty
one years old in style, from iconic blockbusters to hitting gems.
Each episode will toast to a different film that has

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stood the test of time and shaped our cultural landscape.
So grab your favorite beverage or the one we've curated
for this episode, and let's dive into the nostalgia as
we explore movies that are finally old enough for Join
us for a drink. It's July, it's hot, we're celebrating
America and joining me at the bar, as always, are
the two best people I can think of to stumble

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out of a bar after a long discussion of movies
Versus the resident film critic of the Sobros Network mister
Brandon Vick, who's also a member of the Southeastern Film
Critics Association, a board member of the City Music City
Films Critics Association, and most importantly the birth giver of
the vix Flicks and Cinema Chronicles podcast that you can
hear right here in the Sobros Network or anywhere where

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you get your podcast. Phil and joining him is the
man behind the myth, the legend that is the Sobros Network,
the e see the glue of the brand. A jennificionado
cat lover as well and an all around football wordsmith,
mister Stony Keeley, gentlemen. Happy fourth of July, Thank.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
You, thank you. Happy fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, it's the Midsummer for me is when we start
taking a swing towards back, towards cooler weather. So it's
one of my favorite times a year.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
I haven't felt this free and forever.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah yeah, I mean no no rights or freedoms of
ours are being impeded on or anything. No America at
its finest. It's great. Once again, I hear one love
one another.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Cogan's National Treasure. Yeah, lot lots come into focus.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Do y'all know he has a wrestling store coming to
Pigeon Ford. Wait, I'm sorry it's open.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Do I just know it was one?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Where where does he live?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Clear Water? Somewhere in Florida?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
But no, of course he doesn't. Pigeon. That's a I
don't know, that's maybe an odd place.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Maybe maybe have you been Pigeons Well, I was gonna say,
you know what, I just thought of the other ship
that you could go there for.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's white trash.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Didn't Yeah, there's Dolly and then only and only.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
The best part of the Smokies now are the mountains
because you don't have to worry about the fat tourist
getting up there, getting up there.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, it's all those damn pancake restaurants.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I know, as as I go anywhere as a tourist,
I'm a fat tourist.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
No, no, no, you're not a fat tourist. There's a
there's a difference between you.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, we've seen them. You know.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's a fat mouth, breathing neck roll. That is not you.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
But they probably also really enjoy a store you like
to go to up.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
There, which one the knife store? I do love the.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Knife the year round Christmas store.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
No, that's what I'm ount enjoyed too.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Or the Doughnut Friar.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, well I love the donut too. I shouldn't, but
I do.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Look, we're about to talk about a movie that's all
about erasing memories from your mind, and I want to
erase the opening of this podcast who because we got
aonderful Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
We are talking about Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind,
which is a film that follow those former lovers Joel
and Clementine, who undergo a medical procedure that erases each
other from their memories. After a messy breakup, Jewelry discovers
his love for Clementine as his memories of her being erased,
and fights to save them. This was the first time

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I'd ever seen this movie.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I watched it when it came out, but I'm really
glad we picked this movie. I don't know when I
ever would have gone back and rewatched it if not
for this show and watching it now at thirty nine
years old, compared to when I was whatever age I would.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Have been eighteen eighteen Track twenty one from thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I couldn't do it quick enough. It's been a long day.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
We've established math is not a strong suit for some
people on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I don't think I appreciated the depths at which this
film goes to really explore the feelings of loss after
a breakup of hopelessness. But then I also think I
really appreciated the hopeful kind of message by the time

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we get to the end of it as well. I
just I was blown away by how much I enjoyed
this On rewatch, I.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Remember thinking it was a depressing movie, and in some
aspects it is, but it's not. It's not the journey
I remember. Yeah, So I'm like you, I liked it then,
I probably like it about the same now. I mean, again,
that's not a knock on it, but I think I
do appreciate the story more and I think in some

(05:36):
ways at least you can identify with these two more
so now than when you know, we were just graduating
high school.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well that's what I was thinking, Like, I don't know,
I had gone through, like I guess what you would
call breakups, but they weren't like they were at this
depth the soul crushing, back breaking breakups that you go through.
I guess like with with time and experience that sort

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of thing, Like because they're they're older, in the movie,
it's it's an older breakup and they spend time together.
I guess that's what I'm getting as like, you don't
feel this level of emotional depth after a breakup after
like six weeks.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Or Yeah, I was gonna say much less if you're
in high school or whatever too. Yeah, but yeah, that
that is true, and their characters are, it's just a
different circumstance. For instance, like Jim Carrey's character on just
meeting a woman, Yeah, you know, much less actually, like
kind of being yourself with them. And then uh, Clementine

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is just she's i mean, total opposite, which is great
for him, I think, and and nice for her, but
it also kind of ends up being their downfall because
they're not as compatible as yeah, yeah, but there's some problems.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
They just they really put you through the ringer reliving
these memories and the fight and the excruciating pain that
these two go through.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
But I liked, and I totally forgot kind of the
way that the story unfolds. I like that the beginning
is the end is the meeting again, right, yeah, and
then and so but and to me, what we don't
know is actually it's it's hopeful from the beginning. You
just don't realize that because you don't know you know,

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the shit that they went.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So we'll get into the cast and directors writers in
a just a second. I want to go ahead and
get to the drink, since we've we've rambled a little
bit at the beginning about how we found this film
and what we think about at this point. But the
drink is called meet Me in Montac That plays a
key role in the beginning of the film as well
as the end. You got three and a quarter ounces

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of gin three in, a quarter ounces of clementine juice,
a half ounce of lemon juice, a half ounce of
simple syrup you need, a quarter ounce of yellow chartreuse,
which is a French herbal liquor, excuse me, and then
two ounces of champagne. You're gonna mix all those together,
pour them into your glass of choice, and then garnish
it with a lemon piel. I think that's a good

(08:08):
drink for the summertime.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, it is absolutely.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I know when he comes to Jim Stoney's in regardless
of I am.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
So cast wise, we mentioned Jim Carrey. He obviously plays Joel,
your lead character there and then Kate wins It plays
love interest Clementine. You have Kristen dunt as Mary, Mark
Ruffalo as Stan Tom Wilkinson as doctor Merzyak I butchered
at Mere's mears.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Whack.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Sure, Elijah Wood is Patrick. I'm gonna get into him
because that's the most vile character I've seen.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
In a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
God, Yes, what a creepy douche.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Gross.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
And then lastly, you'll definitely remember her from her role
in the film Ellen Pompeo as Naomi.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Oh, that's Carrie's was it wife or just girl girlfriend?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And or I think they may have been engaged at
some point during the.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Story, just broken up with her not that long ago.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
We'll get into Ellen because, uh, you don't see her
in the film. Yep, despite her filming numerous scenes.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
She was in Gray's Anatomy. That's why I.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Think she's still is She's still show is still going
on seven years later. Yes, it was directed by Michelle
Gondry who did the Green Hornet. What, Yeah, he directed
the green Hornet. That's how you say it, Michelle? Yeah, Okay,
he's French.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh I say, because when it comes up it looks
like Michael.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Gondry because you're in America. Hey Michael, you can't add
or read. Hey Michael, we've been Pitchforge.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Has got a wrestling shop.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
He directed the much loved Green Hornet film. Yeah, but
mainly it's known for music videos that he's done work
with York Massive Attack, Kanye West, Lenny Kravitz, and so
many more.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well, I know him and Carrie reunited for a show
called that was on Showtime, and he was he was
kind of like a mister Rogers type. I actually never
watched it, but he got good reviews and he was
nominated for a Golden Globe for it. But anyway, only
went one season. But I thought I was kind of
surprised that it only went one season because there there.

(10:19):
I mean, I thought this was a great work from
both of them. And you know, Jim Carrey hadn't done
TV and I don't know since yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
So, but did not realize he did be kind rewind too.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Oh that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I missed that one in the Science of Sleep. I
never saw that.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
No, that was kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And then it was written by somebody we've discussed on
this podcast before, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yes, And this felt very much like a Charlie Kaufman movie.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I cannot agree more.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
And I mean that in a good way because he
also did adaptation, which I love, But yeah, this is
a Charlie Kaufman script. If I you know, this is
It's funny how even like when he's not directing and
he's writing, like like for instance, with Adaptation and this one,
it's still I feel like, looks like a Charlie Kaufman movie.

(11:11):
Feels like a Charlie Kaufman movie.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, broken characters as you do see an adaptation.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, and it's almost like this like even like the
humor is very just kind of like I mean, I
don't I guess I don't know if dark is the
only word to explain it, but it's just very yeah,
like there is no and it just seems like all
the characters just seem like they're either just out of
it or they're kind of living on the outsides of
reality just a bit, or they they don't seem like

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people what do they call him, like a people person,
which I have a feeling Charlie Kaufman probably isn't either,
So I feel like he writes what he knows and
maybe a little bit of yeah, maybe a little bit
of who he is. Yeah, I imagine.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
This movie came out March nineteenth, two thousand and four,
so it's a little over twenty one now it's had
a couple of drinks in it. Oh yeah, So what
do we think this movie costs to be made in
two thousand and four?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
God?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh boy?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Uh. I don't think Carrie's getting twenty million dollars. So
I feel like everybody took a cut to kind of
make something.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I'm gonna say thirteen million, fourteen, thirteen or thirteen.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Say, I'm probably over, but twenty six.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Twenty six, and thirteen, I will say, I think I
think you're right with Carrie not getting his normal amount
because of the fact that he's trying to do something different.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, he had done The Truman Show by now.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
But that still had elements.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, this one is quite a
departure from anything.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
So, I mean that's not what was it, thirteen or
whatever that movie was he made number thirteen, Yeah, way
off his normal but yeah, budget eyes twenty million. So
you guys kind of in the middle again.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Directly in the middle.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, that makes sense because you think Kate Winsleick. Here's like,
you know, you can already tell a movie like this
is not. But the one person I know that was
making fifteen to twenty million dollars in.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
The movie was he was making twenty Yeah. I mean
there are some you know, cgi effects in there, but
there's a lot of practical effects as well that were
filmed in this movie. But like I said, open March nineteen,
two thousand and four, it did not open number one
at the box office, So we're going to talk about
box office. It opened seventh overall, if you want to

(13:33):
start your guessing. The only other major film to open
that week was the Angelina Joe Lee thriller Taking Lives
and Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Oh, that was a good one. That's one of the
few Zack Snyder movies I like.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
And so your top five for that week where Secret
Window at number five, Yes, so Johnny Depp right, number four,
Starsky and Hutch Oh, number three, Taking Lives, number two,
Passion of the Cry, Bet.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You can't kill it, you can't, you can't.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
And then your number one film was Donna the Dead.
It debuted at number one. Yeah, So what do we think?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
What a time to be Alive.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, US Canada Eternal Sunshine made.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
You may not have this, but I can't even I mean,
what kind of release was that? And it's uh, I mean,
are you talking like twelve hundred? Where did they even
get to twelve hundred?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I would think so with Carrie and winslet's name, I
would think that had to have gone.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
But you know, Jim Carrey ain't funny in this one.
So if it opened seventh overall, Donna the Dead, I
think Donna the Dead probably made even if it was
great in the thirties. Maybe I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
I think it's single digits.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I feel like it probably made. Go ahead, you had it.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I just feel like I don't know. I just eight
popped into my head.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I was gonna say six six million.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I'm trying to. I wanted to see like where it
opened as far as as screen whatever wide release it was,
which I can come back to. But opening weekend it
made eight point one seventy five million, damn. So it
did pretty good there you go, considering if you look
at compared towards its budget, and obviously if you're doing that,

(15:15):
it was a hit because worldwide altogether it made about
seventy three point four million dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I mean, wow, Yeah, I would not have guessed that.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, no, I wouldn't either. I remember the movie being
everywhere I could. The poster to me is iconic. I
visualize that. Yeah, this was a film that I never
had a desire to see, not because I didn't like
anybody in it, or I just I saw the previous
horn I was like, I don't get the concept, so
I'm just moving on. Yeah, and then if, like you said,

(15:48):
if it hadn't been for this podcast, I probably never
would have seen it. But the UK, as always comes
in strong. They were nine million dollars of its worldwide take,
so it was the UK made over ten percent of
its intake. France three and a half million dollars, and
then are Good Friends in Bulgaria fourteen thous eight hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
There's some centophiles down there up.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
There, We're consistent.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, I looked it looks like that was the I
went on IMDb just to see the premiere was March ninth,
and by March nineteenth it was says in the United States,
I don't know what many screens.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
But I have it here opening one thousand, three hundred and.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Fifteen country, So thirteen hundred that's pretty good because most
of them are still two thousand. If you're really big,
you're in the three thousands. So that's pretty good for
thirteen hundred serres.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
And it stayed at thirteen for about three weeks, and
then it dropped down to eleven hundred, seven hundred, six
hundred five hundred throughout the Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Doesn't that sound strange that it just didn't go completely
out of yeters in three weeks and you can watch
it in two.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
It does June. The weekend of June fourth was its
final weekend.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Wow, that's unheard of. Holy shit.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
It ranked in the top ten from what did I say?
It was the thirteenth that it opened nineteenth nineteenth through
uh through March twenty ninth, it stayed in the top ten.
So it had again two and a half weeks. Yeah,
for a little you know, so called I mean, with
twenty million dollars, that's an indie film. Oh yeah, I

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mean it's got a studio behind it.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
But yeah, but still, I mean, and clearly that was
the case because ain't that budget didn't become forty because
fifteen went to Jim Carrey. I mean, so that was built.
That was That's an indie for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Kate's an Oscar winner at this point. Yeah, yeah, was she?
Did she not win for Titanic? Or am I she
won for the reader? Okay, because Titanic won everything. I
just assumed she won.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Nope, she didn't win.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Uh things that won Rotten Tomatoes did the eternal sunshine
of the Spotles's mind went with the critics.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, I'm going to say.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Two hundred and fifty seven reviews.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I'm gonna say seventy five, seventy five, So.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Tony, I'm going to say eighty seven, you're.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Closer ninety two. Yeah, God, I should have gone It's
super fresh again. Two hundred and fifty thousand plus reviews
from the audience for the Popcorn Meter. Where does Eternal
set see?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't know. I'm conflicted about this because, like, I
can't imagine I don't know how, like why casual audiences
would feel about this film. But there's also that part
of me that remembers being in college and hearing everybody,
like everybody talk about this film is like, oh, this
is the indie art house underground everybody who's everybody likes

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this movie.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
But this also accounts for people who have caught up
with it over the years who think it's like no
one knew about it till they saw it five.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Years Yeah, yeah, I had.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I don't think it's in the nineties, but I bet
you it's like, I don't know, I eighty six. I
think it's high.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm going to say, I'm gonna say eighty nine, eighty
six and eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
To jump off what you said, Stony it being like
the college film, the Indian college film. Yeah, for people
that age, you.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Thought you were cool if you'd seen it knew about it.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I go back to when I was in college in
reality Bites was that film for my age where I mean,
granted it had it had names. I mean Ben Stiller
was a name, but he wasn't a name at that time. Uh,
Ethan Hawk was Ethan Hawking went own a writer, probably
the biggest names at that point.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
And even then, I don't know, if you really like casual, Yeah,
they're no Ron Perlman at that point exactly in their careers,
and so I kind of see Eternals on Shine could
be could have been that movie.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
But no, you're both wrong again.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Wow, I did not think it would be as as
I didn't think it'd be higher than the critics one man.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I did not realize Kate Winslet has been nominated, Oh yeah,
seven times, she's only won once. Right, Yeah, I thought
she had won for Titanic as well. But Brandon's right,
she did not win until one night or then. That's
a good question.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I don't even know who was nominated.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Can I could tell you?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Tell you? Some people think DiCaprio was nominated for Titanic.
He wasn't. I think the Old Lady.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Was, and she's in like three scenes.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yep. Well that's like Judy densh was white only in
Shakespeare Left eight minutes.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Kate Winslett lost that year to Helen Hunt.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Oh as good as for Twister, good as it. I
should have known that because Jack one actor then in picture.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Helen A. Bottom Carter was also nominated for The The Dove.
Julie Christie was nominated for Afterglow. Judy Ditch was also
nominated for Missus Brown.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Judy Ditch has been nominated for a time. But yeah,
but the thing was, and I think I got this right.
Kate Winslet won for The Reader, but it was actually
was it best actress?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
It was best Actress?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Was it? Okay? Some people thought the role should have
been best Supporting Actress?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh was that the There was a controversy about that.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
It was like at the Globes or SAgs. She was
nominated for Supporting Actress for The Reader, but then got
nominated for Best Actress at the Academy. But either way,
it's almost like they were trying to figure out, how
can she win? Yeah, but The Reader is a good film.
But yeah, no, she's been nominated a lot. But no, okay,
didn't win yet.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, we know the audience really loved it, so you
think when we get to letterbox reviews that it's gonna
be the same thing. Uh, let's see. I have a
few here. James gave it four and a half stars,
so he really enjoyed it and says, I wish I
could erase this film from my mind just so I
can watch it for the first time all over again. Gosh,

(22:16):
thought that was a good one.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, oh man.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Adam Bolt three and a half stars. That woman that
called asking for the procedure three times in one month,
that's me. I can relate to that. Uh, just sell
two and a half stars. Not so much of a fan.
She's kind of on the fence. This was my ex
boyfriend's favorite movie, and he sucked at Eating Pussy, So

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you do the math.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Souse him from her memory?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's that's hurtful. Yeah, man, I don't I would never
try to.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
How unfair is that to the movie? This nut? Yeah,
it's not fair to the movie.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's just her bad tasted men.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah yeah. Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
And then buzz Brain lastly one star. They say, if
you like this movie and relate to it, you are
a dramatic ass cry baby bitch, I mean ship.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I don't know if he's.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, I don't wrong, but there's a point there.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
But oh my god, it's hurtful. Yeah, that's hurtful because
I do you think.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
He's the one that sucks at pussy?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Looking No, because the ex boyfriend loved this movie?

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh yeah to Shay never mind, can't piece that one together.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
So I'm thinking buzz Brain Eats Pussy.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Really well, I'm thinking he's actually damn genius.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I did watch this movie and think, like god, everybody
in this in this film would get on my fucking nerves.
To hang out with.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I would have just out of Elijah Wood over and
over again.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I don't know. Yeah, I don't think I would have
liked I don't know Tom Wilkinson was fun.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Cheated on his wife ever and try to hide it, that's.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
True and erase the girl's memories.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
So yeah, but supposedly she did want that to happen.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well, I never know.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
We didn't get the prequel.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
It felt like it. It felt like it was actually true,
like they fucked up. But I think Kirsten Duntz kind
of just felt more guilty about it.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Can I just say that that that sequence of events
has really nothing to do with the narrative of the film,
No No, and it caught me way the fuck off guard.
I didn't see.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
That, and I didn't remember it from when I first
saw it either, But I like, I guess you need something.
I guess you need a subplot of sorts, but I
don't really know. I guess to kind of expand on
ways of of why you would use it. Well, it's

(24:54):
kind of that that makes sense. It's kind of the
sole like you see what they're going through, and there's
this lot more or emotional and painful, but then you
also see where it can also be where I mean,
rather it's just to erase something because of guilt, not
so much of like you you don't want to be
in love, but now it's guilt fear covering something up.

(25:15):
Maybe yeah, so I mean I do get that.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I thought there were some interesting There were a couple
of interesting messages to come out of that.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Elijah would too, I'm sorry. That is also how you
can manipulate it.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
It was kind of like we're so focused on Jolie
and Clem that we kind of forget, Like I thought
it was kind of a nice metaphor, and the metaphor
is not the right word, nice example of how we
can feel like we are going through hell ourselves, but
there is still other stuff in the world going on,

(25:51):
Like I thought it was nice, like Kirsten Dunst and
Mark Ruffalo's characters are like dancing and having a good
time in their fucking underwear while this is happening to
Joel and it's like, yeah, I remember those days, Like
when you're you're going through a bad breakup and it's
like in your world, this is the only thing that's

(26:12):
going on right now, Yeah, nothing else higher separate world
turning around you. So I kind of took it as
as that, but also that it's kind of a case
kind of like what you're saying, where like there's a
use for this everywhere. It's it's almost like, man, if
we could actually do this in real life and have
this procedure and have stuff taken away, like everybody would

(26:34):
would do it, And it kind of makes you think
about those things in your life that you have that
you would erase or or you know at the time,
like going through such a bad breakup, you just you
want that pain to be gone. You feel it like
every day is just about getting to the next day
and how nice it would be in the moment, which

(26:55):
is kind of part of the the arc we get
to by the end is like ultimate lee. You know,
we realize, oh, man, I don't think I really would
do that, like you do. Still want to hold on
to the good memories, but in the moment, in our
weakest times, during a period like this, it's like, I
wish I could just make this pain go away.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Well, and I've I feel like it's and in almost
any of us it was where like it, you know,
and anything can be taken advantage of yea. And but
it is one of those that like which I know
we'll talk about Elijah Wood's character because I actually I
didn't like the character, but I'd like the idea that, see,

(27:40):
someone could actually use it against you. Yeah, and you
wouldn't know so. And I think in a way, and
again I took it as the Kirsten Dunce part is
more of the guilt on her part, but it also
is kind of this power establishment of owning your memories.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
And then and I also think it kind of really
goes into and I think this is kind of really
at the heart of it is and like the ending
with Joel and Clem is that even when it's bad,
it makes you who you are, and without it it's
you're never. And also it also looks like you kind

(28:22):
of repeat it anyway. It's almost like you can't get
in the way of life. You may not remember it,
but then you know you at least know two situations
people met up.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Anyway, It's almost like even when we think it's in
our control, it's still out of our control.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, which I guess think he's Dunt's thing. I guess
you can only erase the part with Tom Wilkinson, but
she still works with everybody, but then she still found
herself attracted and stuff to him. So I've kind of
felt like it's almost like we you know, you can't
mess with it, but I also really it and I think,
like you said, watching it now compared to two thousand

(28:58):
and four, after you got some more life and you've
got you were like, you know what, but even with
the you got to take the good with the bad,
and you know, but you're right, there are times in
your weakest and darkest moments where you're like, if I
could just forget it. So, I mean, it makes sense,
but I really did like kind of how The good

(29:19):
thing about kind of throwing in these subplots is it
does give you different perspectives on how this can be used.
And it's not just like, oh, it's just a bad breakup,
like that's that. You know.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
There's also subtle ones that they show but it's not
vocalized through scenes or like when he shows up to
the waiting room. The first time you see this, I
believe it was a woman sitting with a box and
it had with her with her dog bone and leash
and such I'm like, Okay, you've lost a dog. That's
what grabbed me with the yeah, because I'm such a

(29:51):
dog lover and if I was to lose my dog Paisley,
I'd be like, yeah, erase this.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Shit, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
And then one I have questions about like what it
all entailed. There was another person sitting there with a box,
and you mainly see a bowling trophy sticking out, Like,
I don't know if you lost a loved one because
you love they love, you had a love for bowling together,
or you had the option you almost had a three
hundred game but but hit a split.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I think I think it probably even though you don't
see is I I took it as a lot of
this is it's about losing someone or a pet. But
I don't I think all the boxes was like where
they had to go collect everything.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I knew that, but I'm just sorry.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I just didn't know if you thought like that she
lost a bowler, yeah, and she's devastated.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
What if it's man you think like trophies, like lost
a kid.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, well yeah that's true. I mean yeah, I mean
you basically make the assumption of anything, and I think
that's the point you you can look at that person
and think, oh was it a husband, or oh was
it her sister, or oh was it her son? Was
it her daughter? And that's the thing is that I
could see not even bad breakups, but I see the
death part of something where you're like, you know, but

(31:04):
then I just feel like, Okay, well if you erase
that part, how much are you erasing? Are you just
erasing so you think they're alive and they're not because
you're gonna find out they're not. But then you can't
erase the memory of your kid, mom, debt whatever.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Something that's not really explain in the movie is like
how is it decided who gets the notes? Like like oh,
David Cross's character, yes, his girlfriend, wife or whatever get
the note that finally they get he gives to Jim Carrey,
Like who's decided like to keep the secret from you?
How deep does hiding these memories from you go?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah? Well, and I think part of it is it's
eternal sunshine doesn't owe us all the explanations. Yeah, But
I also think that's what makes it good is because
you can then think, gosh, but if you did that,
like you know, it's not just as clear cut. As
some of these may appear in the film, it's not
and Joel and Clym. And Clym were kind of the
two that, you know, not that other people didn't regret it,

(32:05):
but we're emotionally and physically watching them regret it.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
This wasn't an Academy Award winner. No, you're saying it. No,
it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
No, it was I was. It didn't get nominated.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
It won for Best Original Screenplay.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Oh I thought you said it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
No, it was.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Oh that's what. Oh it did.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Charlie Kaufman and Kate Winslett was nominated for Best Actors,
which we established.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yep, another another movie. Why I don't understand why Jim
Carrey and getting nominations. He got a Golden Globe nomination
out of this.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean, I don't know if you still have it up,
but I was curious to who the male nominees were.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Well Jack because he won.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Uh yeah, let's see. Oh no, I don't. I brought
up the.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well, what were the other there's no one from Titanic
on that.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well, this isn't the same year as Titanic.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
My god, I swear to God, I'm gonna have to
quit this show. I can't remember a flipping thing. Okay, right,
so Jack did not win. Hey, by the way, everyone
Jack was not well. He could have been, but he wasn't,
So my bad. This is two thousand and four, So
two thousand.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
And four, boy Ron Pearlman, Yeah, boys, Brice is a
loaded field. Jamie Fox won that year for that already. Yeah,
don Cheetle Hotel, Rwanda, Johnny Depp from Finding Neverland, Leonardo
DiCaprio from The Aviator, and Clint Eastwood for a million
Dollar Baby said that's sorry.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I could, but I could switch carry out. I could
put carry in and dep out Depth Finding Neverlinds fin
Finding Neverlands. Fine, but I don't think that's it.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Was the Golden Globe nominee Jim Carrey. Yeah, yeah, that
made sense. Yeah he was okay.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Fun facts, the opening credits for Eternal Sunshine do not
appear until the eighteen minute mark in the film.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
There's the train scene at the beginning where Kate and
Jim supposedly meet for the first time or the first
second time or the second first time. That's how it
would be. Yeah. She punches him when she's leaving him.
This was not staged nor planned, and Carrie's response is
that of genuine surprise.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Do you know what? It kind of looked like that
because of Carrie's expression on his face, it did look
like like it wasn't acting. That was him like I
can't believe she like me, Like I don't. It's funny
you say that.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Now, we talked about Charlie Kaufman writing the script and
winning the Academy Award for it. It was not his idea,
it's not his premise. The premise for the film came
from the artist Pierre Bousmith, who was friends with Michelle Gondri. Uh.
He suggested he sounds French, Yeah, just a little bit.
He suggested you get a card in the mail that says,

(34:50):
someone you know has just erased you from their memory.
So that was a concept for the film that he
came up with. But then you know, Charlie was brought on.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
To right now, that's an intriguing question.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah. Kate Winslet actually said in an interview with Empire
magazine that this was her own favorite performance that she's done.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
That says a lot she's done, she's done, but it
does stick out in her filmography as far as like
everything that she's kind of done because it is just
such a different character but also memorable, but also I
think because of the story.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
She's so well known for like period piece films. Yes, well, yeah,
that's modern day.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, that's that's very true.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Michelle Gandri had a unique system of controlling his camera
operators while shooting, so he would use a headset for
himself in the earpieces for the other two operators, he
would speak to them in French while the cameras were
rolling and the actors were doing their parts, so Gondri
could have a say on all angles, no matter where
the actors were, and this resulted in a large degree

(35:54):
of spontan eighty since the actors could decide while in
character whether to have an entire conversation sitting on a
couch or get up and walk freely to a window
or whatever. And Katie's even said that she felt this
freedom enhanced her performances.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, I do love when you're
talking about the poster, I do love that shot when
they're laying on not when Elijah Wood is laying on them.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
No, that was It gave me the egg and it
kind of makes me and I.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Think that's what But I think that, But can I
say he's the I feel like he is the perfect
guy to play that kind of role because he is
just have this boyish charm and seems so innocent. And
I like how at the beginning they try not to
show his face.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, Well you see him when he knocks on
the window, yeah, asking what are you doing here? Yeah,
and you don't really what are you asking? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
And then honestly, I forgot all about that part until
we get to the end and it kind of catches
up and I'm like, oh shit, shit, fuck, I forgot
about this.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah no, I I maybe not the first time of
the second time when he's talking to Mark Ruffalo and
they never show his face, because there's times were like clear,
I mean it's not like yeah, and I'm like, okay,
I get it. But I did forget that he was
basically taking Jim Carrey's memories and using them to get

(37:14):
to get with her. I totally forgot about that whole thing,
which I'll be honest, I think I said this. I
didn't even I for totally forgot Elijah Wood was in it.
Kirsten Duntz was in it. Tom Wilkinson Mark, I really
forgot all of them, weren't it.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Honestly had no idea. I just knew the two of them.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Maybe miss Tom Wilkinson, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Now. Jim Carrey is known in the past for butting
heads with various directors he's worked with. You know, you
hear about the difficulties he had on How The Grinch
Stole Christmas, mainly not because of Ron Howard so much
as it was the makeup the waight it took on him.
But Michelle Gondry when he first met Jim Carrey, and
we're discussing him starring in the film, Carrie was going

(37:56):
through bad depression, which you know, he was going through
an ugly breakup with Renee Zellwegger that was very public.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
And such oh yeah, wow and uh.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
And Michelle Gondries said that he was forbidden to go
to therapy or seek any kind of treatment, and over
lunch one day, he told carry, you are so beautiful
right now, you are so broken. Please do not get well.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Oh let me tell you. Carrie wears it.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
It's there's so much like his eyes in this movie.
It just it feels like he is just on the
verge of tears at any given moment.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, did it do any healing for him?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Well, he recounted the story like a decade later, and
Carrie said, that just shows you how fucked up this
business is.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Why he basically has left it.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, because like you go to back to Man on
the Moon, the anti Kaufman biopic that he did, like
he was in character the whole time, whether he was
cl I mean a Kaufman or or Tony Clifton, you know,
the alter ego.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Like, well he was an asshole because he was. And
there's that Netflix documentary.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Document that really goes detailed. He even met with Andy
Kaufman's family as Andy Kaufman as a way for them
to finally have their proper goodbyes to Andy.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Oh, I felt like they were gonna get pissed.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Out of him, was how deep he went into character.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
That Netflix documentary is crazy because he really he went
for but I think he also was like a huge
fan of Kaufman and so he went he he went
down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
And I think you've seen some of if you go
back to some of the films from that time period.
He was doing when he was getting away from the
slapstick comedy. You can see like his mental health just
like deteriorating over it.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
I think I'm starting to see why he did Mister
Popper's Penguins and does only basically the Sonic movies.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, I think he's given too much.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, he's like, I'm not working I'm not working super
hard or going super in depth here. After filming the
scene and the sync for more than two hours, you
know the kitchen sink was actually a hot tub.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Kate Winslet fainted ed Gondry wanted to continue filming, which
angered Jim Carrey, and Carrie refused to continue shooting until
he knew that Kate was all right.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Good on him.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, he about him.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Being difficult at times with directors, but when he comes
to working with cast members as such, I've never heard
a negative word about that.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
That reminds me of the when Clooney got pissed at
David o' russell in Three Kings. You ever heard that's true?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
It's I I don't know the details, but basically, and
I don't know if there was other stuff, because you know,
David o' russell was there's this scene There's the Thing
where him and Lily Tomlin are getting into it for
iHeart Huckebees and he's yelling at her, calling her all
kinds of names, and she's cussing in him, and so
he doesn't get along. And he's also he's not a
very popular director as far as like, I don't know

(40:52):
he's he's he's well, he's still controversial because I think
there was something that dealt with some kind of sexual
stuff too, and how he's getting some of the films made,
I don't know, but anyway, he basically was treating David
o russell was doing something barading an extra and Clooney

(41:12):
saw it, and uh, they got in a fight. Clooney
was so pissed, which I think there was other stuff involved,
but he was talking about how you like the disrespect
that he's shown the rest of the cast and crew,
and so Clooney stood up for him, and he literally
has talked about there's a Thing, and I think it

(41:34):
it was some interview with him and Brad Pitt's so
I'm not sure. I guess it was during The Wolf's Thing,
but he literally I think he literally talked about like
he's like, well, I mean, you know you have these
I can't remember if he said sad fucks or like
fuckheads or something like Russell like he just like it's
known and they don't like each other. But anyway, so

(41:55):
but I'm good for Carrie. I think that's a little
for Landry to kind of like. I mean, she like, yeah,
you're already bringing him from a depression and telling him
not to get well, and you want him to keep
filming while she's literally out of it and no one
knows if she's okay. Yeah, Like, yeah, I would if
I was the other star in the movie, I would
be like, no, man, we ain't doing this.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
They continue to struggle with understanding some of the scenes
they were filming because there were times where they didn't
know where they were in the script basically, so Carrie
would ask, you know, uh, several times when we were
going through the dream memory, he asked, Michelle, is this
lucid or is this the way it was?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Is?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
He didn't know if it was memory or reality. So
the characters are confused as fucking whether or not they
still want to be together, and the actors are actually
confused while filming.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
As well, So I'm thinking no one was anyone really acting?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Then leads weren't.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, that's an important distinction too, to figure out, like
is this real or not? Because the little subtle touches
you add to kind of make things feel surreal, you
want to know, like do we apply those or not?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Is this beach house really falling apart?

Speaker 3 (43:10):
That's what I think for real?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Did that car really fall from the sky.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Because I'm not going to act all nonchalant if if
it did.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
This movie a little piece of Oscar trivia for you. Uh,
this is the only film to win a Screenwriting Oscar
without being nominated for Best Picture.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Oh damn? What was nominated for Best Picture that year?
Ray Ray definitely was not as good as it gets.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
No, no, not that one best picture. Let's say Finding
Neverland was Best Picture.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
So maybe one. Finding Neverland was in it. Ray was
in it. Uh, the Aviator was in it. And then
I'm surprised Sideways.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Oh yeah, no, yeah, yeah, I remember, yeah, yeah, I remember.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I thought Sideways one more than it did.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Okay, did you guys know real quick? I was efforting
this well, you guys were talking about something. Kate Winslet
is actually just a tony away from being an egot.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Oh yeah, well, I know. She won an Emmy for
that HBO limited series that I love.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, she has her Oscar. She won a Grammy in
the year nineteen ninety nine for Best Spoken Word Album
for Children for narrating the children's audiobook Listen to the Storyteller.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
What will be sad is she'll go to the West
End to do a show instead of going to Broadway. Yeah,
and she'll win on Olivier instead of a So she'd
be an ego ego.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
She is one of the best actresses. I think I've
I think growing up. I think she's I.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Think she's still underappreciated.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, I would agree with it.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I think it's on a.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Massive Yeah, yeah, I yes, I think I would hope.
Within the acting community, I'm sure like she it's like, oh, well,
she's probably like there's Meryl Street and then there's a
few like she's on down like she's closed film.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah yeah, but like the casual movie goers, I'm not sure.
It's like when she pops up there like, oh I
recognize her girl from.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
I do think that's where most people I do know her,
which sounds crazy. But I guess to a certain point
of me, Titanic it was the cultural phenomenon, so I
guess it makes sense. But yeah, she has done better.
Ship everyone.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
She rips? Man, she's does?

Speaker 3 (45:42):
She rip?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
So good?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
The Writer's Guild of America has ranked the best uh
screenplays of all time.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Oh that's a daunting task.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Where do you think this falls in the top one hundred?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
So it's in the top one hundreds? Man, it is
who did this?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
This is the Writer's Guild of America.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Oka, w g A, Okay, they know they're shit.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, I'm gonna say it's eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Okay, let's just say sixty eight. Guys are nowhere fucking close? Really,
twenty four wow, beating out such films as Wizard of Oz, Fargo,
and Taxi Driver.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Oh about that?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yeah, the Wizard of Oz was just a witch yelling,
so that's fine. But Taxi Driver and what was the
other one? Uh?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
What did I say? Oh? Fargo?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Oh? Man, I don't know. It's not so much that
if it's in the twenties, it's more about what's what's
under the gym?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, I didn't pay attention to the whole one hundred
to see what I thought may have been snubbed or
it shouldn't have beaten. But those are the three that
were closest to it in the top thirty.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Go oh that's yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I think it's funny that both Jim and are playing
against their type with their performances, uh, because they're playing
each other's character arts archetypes. Carrie brings a subtle, nuanced
portrayal of Joe, while wils Winslet acts as a wild,
free spirited Clementine.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, that's true. I think in yeah, in their own way,
they really are playing what normally would be their characters.
I mean, obviously Carrie's is you know, more outlandish, but
still the.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Carry is going through some ship during this film.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I am. I mean, it's funny how that kind of
but it does work to his favor, so to uh,
to Michael's point, yeah, Michelle's yeah that's him. Yeah, it does.
It does work because like we're talking about, like you
can I'm not saying it's not all like talent, but

(47:53):
there's some stuff I don't think you can fake. Yeah,
so it came at a good time for him, I.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Guess Kate Winslet secured the role of Clementine because she
was the only actress brave enough to give criticism to
the script instead of pandering for the role. Yeah, Charlie,
So I think that partly plays and how well her
character is written and crafted. Because her giving notes back

(48:19):
since Michelle and Charlie back to the drawing board to
give a little more weight to that character, she's got
some clout.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I was about to say the same thing, like you
feel like if Kate Winslean gives you notes, listen you listen, Yeah,
take you take heed.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Well, good for her because now it's ranked number twenty
four the top one hundreds.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, so she get a writing credit.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I do think it's funny though, if you go back,
and I think you can find it on YouTube. When
Charlie Kaufman accepts his award, he does not mention the
artists that came up with the concept of the film
at all during his speech. Tough scene, Americans, fucking Americans. Uh.
Mark Ruffalo is a busy man in two thousand and four.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Yeah he is.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
This is one of three films.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Thirteen going on thirty for God's sake, Collateral.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Oh yeah, he wasn't collateral. Yeah, this is this the
second Why does it?

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Why does it go tee make him look ten years older?
Because he looked like a baby and he did Eternal Sunshine. Yeah,
he really did. Like when he came up, like, I
don't even know if his hair was curly, Like I
was confused.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I mean, well, maybe that's not his real hair because
Kate Winslet she's wearing wigs throughout the movie.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, so is she. I thought maybe some of it
like extensions or something.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Always wow.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
For more about Jim Carrey's hair, I.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Think his hair was due to too depressed to be
covered by a wig.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
He had. He had good depressed hair.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Oh yeah, he's got to listen. That man's got some
good hair.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
But uh, before we get into kidda would have should have?
I will say that. You know, we talked about Ellen
Pompeo at the top of the Oh Yeah film at
top of the show, like she film numerous scenes for
the character Naomi, which was Jim Carrey's other love interest
in the film, but you don't see her in it
as well. And this goes back to Michelle Gondry possibly

(50:12):
being a manipulative, sick fuck Okay, Jim Carrey's going through
his ugly private I mean not private, but a personal
public breakup with the Reneese Lugger. Everybody and the grandmother
knew about it and everything. Ellen Pompeo very much resembles
and sounds like renees El Lugger. So it's believed Gondry

(50:33):
casted her on purpose to keep Carrie in his funk
is depressed with.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Never the intention of actually showing those scenes that.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
We don't know, because he has stated that he cut
the story to help the I mean he cut the
role to help the story flourish and to help make
Joel more likable, because it's believed that because you can
find her scenes on YouTube or some of them, I
don't know if all of them are there, but and

(51:03):
watch them, you you get the vibe that you would
rather see Joel with Naomi than you would going.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Back to sea better fit. So let's not get her involved.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
And then the website Film Radar did an experiment where
they inserted the Naomi scenes back into the film and
discovered how much the movie changes with them.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
How sick would it be if he had already had
this oper this experiment done, because come to find out
he killed Naomi. Oh man, I'm just saying, now, take
out Michelle Gondry and put in Eli Roth, and what
kind of movie you got?

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Right?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Am I? Right? Everyone? Eternal Sunshine told on still Charlie
caught it?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, Turnal Sunshine of the Cabin Fever. We'll have notes
Eternal Sunshine at the hostel.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Oh boy.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Jim Carrey feels that Gondry only casts Ellen because she
looks and sounds like his extra day, which he is denied.
Gondrey has of course denied uh this and doesn't feel
the two resemble each other at all, but they actually
fucking do bullshit bull So.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Wait a minute, who am I gonna believe Jim Carrey?
Or am I gonna believe the guy that wanted Carrie
to be in his depression throughout and wanted to film
while Kate Winslet was passed out.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
So Gondrey does feel that the chemistry, the chemistry between
Carrie and Pompeo was so good that the scenes with
them would have put audience members pitting Naomi and Clementine
against each other, which.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I agree that I understand. Yeah, if I didn't know
any better, I would not think Carrie and Gondry would
have worked together again, but since they did the show,
I guess I guess he was fine.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
You know who who was offered the role originally of
Joel instead of Jim.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Carrey, Nicholas Cage, Right, your rights are no for real,
real real, Well, you know, adaptation had already happened, Charlie Kaufman,
And I feel like every time we do this, Nicholas
Cage is a ball. So I just went with it.
And yeah, he could have done it, that man could
have done it. But I'm glad it worked out this

(53:10):
way because that Nicholas Cage performance adaptation is I dare say, perfection.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
You mentioned earlier about not remembering this person, this person
in the film, and I didn't know these people were
in the film. But when he comes to h the
role of Patrick Uh played by Elijah Uh, would yeah,
thank you. I've never I don't remember the last time
I've hated a character so much because of how slimy
they are. And maybe that's a testament to how good

(53:39):
he portrayed the role. But I wanted to beat that
fucking goateee off of him, first of all. And then,
just like I've known people like that in real life
when I was younger, seeing them manipulate the opposite sex
that they were going after because they knew things that
the other person didn't know, and that just oh.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
But that tells you just like again, going back to
the conversation we had a little bit ago, is that that?
But that is also how that could be used. So
it's funny how we kind of think about it on like,
you know, whether it's painful or you know, sad or
tragic or whatever. But there's also people like everything that
happens that gets invented, they find ways to take advantage

(54:22):
and manipulate, you know, people, things whatever.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
He was also really easy to hate in Sun City too.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Oh yeah he was. Yeah he was a bastard. Oh
what about fro Oh?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
God was with those movies?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
So I just did we can we got you?

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Just yeah, you just keep reading those notes. But first,
hell boy, now you're gonna tell me about one of
the rings?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
No, sir, so I think it is probably a testament
to for one. Elijah Wood kind of just looks like
a creepy little he does.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Yeah he could be he could be a pedo, but.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
He I'm not gonna go that that's a little harsh.
Wasn't the Monkey? Why do I not remember him in
The Monkey?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I didn't see them.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Oh yeah, no, it was uh it was quick, okay.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
But to the point, he probably is just better than
he's given credit.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Honestly, I think it. And I like that he is.
He's not afraid to take on these gross characters, because
I would imagine he's not like that in real life
at all.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
But but you know, they've got meat on the bones.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Yeah. But you also, I mean you're thinking, like, I mean,
my god, he's been working since he was like five.
He was in the Good sum of Coli Coulkaman. They're
both just like little kids. So I mean I kind
of like that he you know, and he's done some
like some off the wall movies and different characters, but
where he's played a serial killer and stuff like that. Yeah,

(55:50):
so I think he's kind of drawn to that, And
sometimes I feel like it's because that he is the
total opposite of anything. But to get in that kind
of mindset, I mean, playing a serial killer compared to
someone like this, like I'll be honest, someone like this
like Patrick that I mean, not that serial killers aren't real,
but the Patricks of the World are the grossest that

(56:11):
you just know, like, I don't know. It's it's a
it's a it's a power move and it's also just
like y'all said, he just it gives you the ick
very well, but I think it. But I think he's
a good actor.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
His first credit is the Paul Abdul video Forever Your Girl.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Damn how about that?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Did not know that? Uh, but other people auditioned for
the role of Patrick. Could you imagine Seth Rogan being
that creepy No?

Speaker 3 (56:43):
No, no, he's too damn lovable and goofy.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Too goofy.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
But he did audition other people that were up for
the role that the studio wanted for Clementine vin Diesel. No,
Clementine Vin Diesel Diesel, not Vin Diesel, or Nick Cage
or the rock all right, An he guesses on who
this studio had.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Two thousand and four, Angelina Jolie had, Nicole Kidman?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Was Nicole Kidman is one?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Was Britney Murphy still around?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Maybe? I think she was doing up.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
I think she was still alive.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
I think she was. Yeah, don't see a word in
Uptown Girls. I think we're around there.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Okay, but no, but no, okay, an Academy ward not Wait,
she was in Sin City.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Wasn't she in the first one?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah? And that was two thousand and five, So maybe.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
We'll get just didn't want it. They didn't want her,
They didn't they Nicole Kidman was one.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
And Catherine Zeta Jones.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Oh that makes sense too, that's right off Chicago, right
after she won an Oscar.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yep, but uh, somebody else who turned down the role
of Joel before they got to Jim Carrey. And I
think this changes the movie fucking completely. Denzel Washington, I could.
I can't see that either the man could do anything.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
He can't do anything. But I just then it's not
you're right, like it, we would be taught talking about
a totally different movie, a totally different one. I wouldn't
doubt if, like, I don't know, you know, it ends
up where Ridley Scott takes over and in some action movie.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, and then it turns into a Shakespearean play.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah, yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Othello, ain't got shit on me, that's right.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I'm interested in seeing that film, but I don't want
to fuck with what we have.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
No, I wouldn't change any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Like Ryan coogler remake Eternal Sunshine with Denzel Washington.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I could see Nicole Kidman having a shot at Kate
Winslet's part, but I yeah, I they're just you know what,
I don't think before this movie anybody would have thought
that Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet would do a movie
together of any sorts, especially one like this one. And

(58:52):
I mean it just it. It sounds crazy and it
sounds absurd. But after, like I said, after watching it again,
it's it. It fits it, it feels right.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I do believe as much as I enjoyed it, I
don't think this is a movie i'll probably ever rewatch.
Not that as bad.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Like I said, I like the movie, but there are
films that you like, really like that You're like, all right,
I don't need to see it again.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Yeah, I might watch this movie again tonight.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
A lot of it is a subject matter. I mean,
it kind of depends on how much do you want
to settle on it. But again, it is hopeful. So
I mean, it's not like watching Recoom for a Dream
over and over that's depressing as.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
It watching kids over and over. Yeah, so you know
we that's all the notes I have for Eternal unless
we have some more to add to it. But you know,
we have our our Mount Rushmore question. But a question
I brought up before we started recording is like, are
there moments in your life, personal or not that you
would like to erase from your memory? And I have one.

(59:48):
It's nothing that happened to me personally, while you guys
think about yours. But I would love to go back
in time and erase the two thousand and eight NCAA
Men's National Championship game because fuck Kansas and it was
John Caliperry.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
That was rough. That was cool boy. That was rough.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
The NCAA has erased it from their memory and the
record books because the banner doesn't hang in the FedEx
forum anymore for Memphis being even in the game. But yeah,
that's my memory.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I went to. I went to support a friend in
a I don't remember if it was a play or
if it was like a chorus performance or what. The
memory is almost the memory of everything except for this
incident has been wiped from my memory already. But I
went and they were doing some giveaway and they were

(01:00:38):
you had to like your name was on your ticket
kind of deal. It's like, yeah, you know, you order
a ticket for Stony Keeley kind of deal. And they
would draw the tickets out raffle style, and I was
sitting in the crowd and this is in a high
school auditorium and there's probably I mean, there's at least
like three hundred people. There is a big crowd from

(01:01:02):
the rafters and I they they called the name, and
they you would go up and get your prize and
it was like a gift card for dinner or something
like that. And I swear I heard my name.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
And so I'm so common, I can see how it happens.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I'm like talking while they say it, and I'm like,
they just I think they just said my name. And
at least four people that I was with in the
row where like they did not say your name. They
did not that was not your name. And I said, no,
I swear, that's I swear I heard my name.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Nobody could wait to see.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Nobody nobody was going up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
To claim the gift, all right, well that place.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
So then I turned around. I'm like, man, I swear,
And finally somebody was like, well, go on up there.
Then going up there so I did. I walked up
in front of like three hundred people and just stony
and they're like stony, stony, key name, and they're looking
at the piece of paper and they're just like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
No, it's Stanley Green.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
I wish you would. Yeah, I wish you knew the
name that they.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
So then I had to turn around back the bleachers. Yeah,
And I to this day, I think that's the most
embarrassed I've ever been in my life. It's just shouting
my name on stage in front of people, think I
want a gift card to Longhorn, and then them telling

(01:02:32):
me no, we did not, like they were. It was
almost shoe sho And at one point, like one of
the ladies came over to me as if like stop yelling,
stop yelling, what did you say your name was? And
I'm like just standing there, and of course everybody in
the bleachers that I was with was just erupting with laughter,
like you dumb fuck. And so I sat down and

(01:02:53):
I don't think I said another word the entire night
and just drove home in silence. But I would like
to that from my memory, that's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I have a couple I would like to erase Movie
forty three and cursed from my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Awesome, but the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
But here's the thing, but do I end up watching
it anyway? So yeah, so I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm
not really sure how that goes far as movies.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Movie forty three is the worst movie I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Yeah, everybody in their grandmother's in that fucking movie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I would like to erase mcash's movie taste. Okay, so
really it would have to be him that does it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah, Okay, you know what, I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Be honest, And I was joking with you guys before
we hit play on this or record or however. These
machines work, and I I actually think there probably is
a lot more stuff. But I'll be honest, I think
I think I can't remember them anyway, So I guess
who cares. If there was one thing I would love

(01:03:58):
to erase, not the memory? Is it the memory of it?
Or can I like erase it from ever happening?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Well, I mean that would be a different movie we're
talking about, that's true. I'd be men in Black. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
The memory of getting in my first car accident driving
oh Man was luckily everyone was fine, but I had
my car a nineteen ninety four blue Ford tourists Stony
and I boats are going. Yes, Stony and I are

(01:04:34):
taking the backway away that it's like some stories here
we never take this way, but we'reing the back way to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Kmart Kmart and hermitagep So yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
So worth worth it. But and I we I just
I had it for a month and I totaled it.
And the person that technically they hit me, even though
it was my fault, was actually a guy we knew
at school.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
It's like serendipity. We just stuff done and we're staring
at this. Yeah, and uh are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Luckily no one was hurt or anything, but yeah, if
I could erase that, I would, But the memory of it,
I still remember like it was like three seconds of
instant shock and then like it's on this busy road
and I mean everybody was just stopped like until they
could finally get the cars and stuff. But yeah, it

(01:05:24):
was crazy. So that one your movie taste, which means
you have to do it, and then movies which I
might end up watching anyway. So there you go. I
Stony has a good one. I know we're not doing
it on this one, but I wish I wish this
was just totally uncensored, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I will shaking after dark.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
But I will say that that name one A is
a pretty good one. I'll be honest, I'm kind of
worried about myself because I don't really remember.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I would not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I don't remember stuff that I'm like, I'm afraid to
get rid of. That's why I can't come up with
what personal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
And really like embarrassment. I don't know. We've always been
pretty good at just kind of laughing at ourselves, so
I don't really know if I've truly been embarrassed about
much as as far as I remember. So yeah, no,
I don't think I really have like stuff that like
will haunt me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Good for you, Yeah, just get you, I think, I think.
Really the the I mean, just keep getting older, everybody,
it'll happen. Yeah, you'll get your you'll get your, You
get those memories erase one way or another.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Well, things I do remember are my favorite performances by
Jim Carrey.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Hey, I know this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yeah, uh, we've seen a film or two of his.
So the question is your favorite Jim Carrey roles? Not movies,
but your favorite roles he's done.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I have not seen The Truman Show or Man on
the Moon, so I want to lead with that. Okay,
I think my absolute favorite would be Eternal Sunshine of
the Spotless Mind. Uh. I love him in The Cable Guy.
I think I thought going into that that that was
gonna be like hokey, funny Jim Carrey, and it's not.
There is a very dark tone to the way he

(01:07:11):
plays that character that I really appreciated. Loved him in
The Majestic. And then this might be controversial, but I'm
gonna go with Disney's a Christmas Carol because I fucking
love that movie and I love him in it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Going back to The Cable Guy, It's not on my list,
but the chemistry between him and Matthew Broadwick, I thought.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
It was so No It's directed by Ben Stieler, which
is funny. Uh you know what, This is kind of
tough because, like you, like you said, it's not movies.
Movies would probably be easier, but performances I will. I
am gonna put ace Ventura up there. I do think
he's great in it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Okay, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Well, And I'll tell you why is that. I think
it's just such a memorable role for him. It's it's
a spectacle, yeah, and it's and it's But for me,
I don't really I don't really think of Jim Carrey
without not thinking about as.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I don't think there's anybody who's done physical comedy as
well as he has in the past thirty years.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Now. To me, like, I like, the mask is fine,
It's not my favorite. I like, liar, liar, I love
those But I know, but I've just I was looking
and I just thought as Ventura And I'm not saying
the movies are great, but his performance, especially back then,
was something that it just wasn't being at least it
not like that. So I want to defend it a

(01:08:34):
little bit. So I'm going to say, Ace Ventura, man
on the Moon, he's really good. I mean we already
talked about. I mean, he lived the role. I would
also say Eternal Sunshine. I really think and now after
hearing like, oh, like he was in a dark place
and what he was able to bring, I don't really

(01:08:55):
think it could have I don't think it could have
been done without it. But it's just so different, it's
so different. And then the fourth one is is kind
of tough because I haven't seen The Majestic in a
long time, but I remember liking the movie, and I
will say I have not seen The Truman Show in

(01:09:17):
so long. I feel like it would be in my
top four, but I don't want to do it because
I really just don't. I don't have the memory of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
I'm with you on that figure. I haven't seen Truman
since it came out.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Yeah, and but after watching Eternal Sunshine, I would like
to go back and visit that because I do remember
thinking it was a good movie. So with that aside,
I am actually gonna go with I Love You Philip Morris.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
I forgot all about that movie.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
Yeah, it's a different Ewan McGregor, so yeah, I would
almost go with The Grantch kind of the same thing
with Ace Ventura kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Yeah, but I but anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
That was the first one that my wife said when
we were Grinch. Yeah it was. It was The Grinch
and Ace Ventura.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
I went with Joe Bears, Eternal Sunshine, Andy Coffin Man
on the Moon. I did go The Grinch, okay, because
his Grinch is so much different from the original animated.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Oh how dark it is?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
And then I went with Stanley A Kiss from the.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Mask The Mask, which I get that that's my favorite
Jim Carrey movie too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Feel like his kind of comedy is what kind of
draws you in. And I mean, yes, it can be silly,
which is kind of what Will Ferrell and a lot
of them have tried to do in their own way.
But like I said, so yeah, he's done. He's done
some great stuff. He didn't have to do anything I
kind of wish he would. And besides the Sonic movies,
but honestly, the submit the Sonic movies are better than

(01:10:48):
they should be because it's like it's the Jim Carrey
from the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
I would like to see him get another legitimate shot
at a dramatic role, kind of like in The Eternal
where it's dramatic but there's elements of humor in it
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
But you know what, I kind of would like to see.
And I was saying about that, and I was just
seeing first reactions and reviews have come out for for
a premiere of a movie you're not gonna like. But
I feel like a Jim Carrey ari aster would be
a trip Eddington. Yea, that just premiered It Can and
apparently it's it's it's been called a modern day Western.

(01:11:28):
It's not a horror movie, but it is about the
sort of like the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Well, that was a question I was going to bring
when I mentioned wanting him to get another shot, is like,
what's a director that could really bring that out to
out of him where he might finally get that nominee
or that you know, award that he's I don't know
if he's searching for it, but I think.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I think he's kind of and I know, I don't
know if anybody knows this, but he is. He's he
has become a like a big time painter and artist,
so that's kind of what he likes to do. But
he I think ari Aster, I think would be able
to do some stuff with him. I don't really, I mean,
I'm not I'm not going towards tarantine or scrses or
something like that. I feel like it's got to be
somebody like ari Aster that like wants to kind of

(01:12:09):
really change it up a bit. And I think Jim
Carrey would do it. I don't know that director just
popped in my head. I just feel like it's a
match made in heaven for them, kind of like the
way Joaquin works with Ariaster, Like it's just different. But
I know Jim Carrey can go there, so that would
be mine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
What about him in a in an Alexander Payne film,
like the George Clooney Descendants kind of vibe.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Yeah, so I could see, I could yeah, I could
see something like I'm just.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Thinking, like, get him to that emotional place again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Yeah. Yeah, Alexander Payne is a is a good example,
and you mean you can see, like just with like
the Holdovers, Paul Giamadi, it doesn't have to be the yeah,
you know, a handsome slack you know, which I mean,
even George Clooney is not George Clooney and Descendants. So yeah,
I kind of like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Don't I don't necessarily have an answer because I like
the I don't like his films, but I think ari
is a good choice. Like you said, but uh, I
could see Carrie over the years becoming our or a
new generation's Bill Murray.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, so so maybe Wes Anderson could.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
I kind of thought that, but I don't know Wes
anderson films well enough to know when he comes to
the dramatic aspects of well there, yeah, well we're coming
to the Bill Murray. Yes, Wes Anderson would.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Pete yes, But there's also kind of like there's Wes
Anderson to me, like that Darjeeling Lima did and what's
the submarine one? But then there's also like Rushmore and
Royal Tenen bombs that I feel like that's where carry
can get his. But I will say Wes Anderson likes
to pile on the cast, so I kind of feel

(01:13:55):
like Jim Carrey would be cool to see a minute,
but it's kind of like a Tom Hanks like. I
was kind of like, come and go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Put Jim Carrey in like the Tom Hanks role in
Asteroid City, and it's pretty fun. But yeah, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Think he'll get his flowers if he does.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
To your point, I don't know if anybody in a
Wes Anderson movie is getting the screen time to go
on like the Awards run Jeff Goldbloom from Asteroid City.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Too, Yeah, yeah, oh yeah in that spot. So I
don't know. I think I'm sticking with Arie Astro. But
I do like the idea that Bill Bill Murray is really.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
You see him taking on that kind of those kind
of roles, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
I kind of see like a best supporting actor kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Thing, Jim Carrey and Sophia Coppola.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
The next I translation, I thought that, but then Greta
Gerwig came in my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Could Narnia, let's go, She's doing the Narnia movies for Netflix?

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Okay, I was thinking that the wasn't there a Netflix
show or something at one point? I don't know. Anyway,
I like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
The uh that Bill Murray reference that that could very
well be the case, and I also feel like that
could be. I think Adam Sandler's trying to think he's
slowly moved on there, which would make me say, I
will say, one other person released this year. True, it
does get released.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
What is it July this month?

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
That's right? Noah bomb back?

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Yeah, okay, and that goes back to Greta.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
So yeah, I think maybe one of those because Sandler
and Clooney or did one of his movie comes out
on Netflix in November? You got to have those kinds
of people, and I'm just curious if if he has
had those chances and he really is just kind of done.
But I have a feeling, I mean, the man ain't
I mean, he's old, but ain't that old. And also

(01:15:52):
he doesn't look that old. I really hope some people,
some of these filmmakers, get him out because he can
do it. He's proved it, he doesn't have to prove.
I just feel like it's a new wave now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
So let's there's a whole generation that doesn't know Jim Carrey.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
But also that when he was making all this money,
they weren't using him any other way. And I think
for him too, that was something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
So well, shit, I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
I'm excited for the future of Jim Carrey too. Before
we hit record, I could have cared less what Jim
Carrey did next, to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Be honest, Oh not anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
All right, So we got them juices flowed, Hollywood. If
you're listening, anything else to add about Eternal before we
get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Got through my notes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I got through mine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Too, mine too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Yeah, all the notes you brought with you. So tell
these fine folks how they can find you on these
internet streets.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
On Twitter at sir Brandon v letterbox Sir Brandon, and
of course Nashville Movie Dispatch dot substack dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
At Stony Keeley Usilbrosnetwork dot Com, Nashville Movie Dispatch dot
substack dot com. I'm just just find me on Twitter.
I got a link tree where you should just say
google me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Just google me, especially if you call his name out
of a hat with a tick, He'll find.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
You'll come, I'll come run. I didn't even tell you, guys.
The best part of that story is that doctor Kevin
Dyson was one of the people Titan's legend. Doctor Kevin
Dyson was one of the people on stage that I'm
standing in front of, like stony, stony, stony.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
What I love is. But like you said, it was
like a long runner out back stage guard like it
wasn't even anything, autograph, nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
I should have just stayed in my seat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Yeah, you should listen to your friends. I'm surprised you
weren't there, Brandon.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I was trying to think where it was, but I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
You're probably it out back that or.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
I was there and I don't remember you were not there, Okay,
erase that from your memory.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Ye all right, So thank you for joining us again.
You can find me on x at MC Underscore Cast
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we would love for you to subscribe to Drinking With
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Let us know what movies that's turning twenty one you
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(01:18:02):
Nashville Movie Data Dispatch, where you can find all of
our work. Sobrosnetwork dot com as well, and cheers to
another episode of Drinking With, where we've explored the films
that have come of age just like a fine wine.
As we raise our glasses to movies turning twenty one,
we've laughed, reminisced, and maybe shed a tear or two.
We almost did in this one. Yeah, So until next time,
may your drinks be cold, your conversation is lively, and

(01:18:24):
your movie night's unforgettable. Most poorly, drink responsible, and remember
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