August 25, 2023 • 61 mins
EMMY award-winning host Dee Dee Sorvino goes into the ring with Trisha Morrison to talk about how Tommy ‘ The Duke’ Morrison was given a sucker punch and is coming back for the big win. From Executive Producer Michael Woodford Gilkison - Trisha and Tommy: A Love Story. Tommy Morrison from Rocky V beat George Foreman to become World Heavy Weight Champion… Before you know it he’s amongst the greats like Lennox Lewis and gets a title shot against Iron Mike Tyson… until chaos ensues. ESPN’s 30 for 30 documentary didn’t get the story right… We are going to get the story right. Tom Anderson, Stephanie Janiczek & Sue Ann Falkenburg are ringside for this championship bout. Sorvino Vino is the official drink of the show! Cheers!
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Everyone loves happy Hour, and noone makes an hour happier than actress,
comedian, author, host, andself proclaimed hat girl d D. Sorvino,
who each show serves up an hourof good times and great conversation food,
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Grab a cocktail and take a seatas d D shares stories, talks with
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Where there's a party, there's dD. And you are invited.
Sit back, relax and enjoy drinkswith d D. Here's your host,
d D. Sorvino. Welcome,Welcome everyone. I am so happy to
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be doing this show today. I'md D. Sorvino, your host,
and that means you are in fora big tree because I am the host
with the most that connects all thegood people, including the audience and our
guest today. It's all a family. It's a family up there. It's
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a family up there. But wedo have a very special celebrity guest today.
She's on the show before and sheis the wife and widow of Tommy
the Duke Morrison. Please give awarm welcome to Tricia Morrisey. Hey,
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good afternoon, everybody. Thank you. I'm so so happy to have you
back in import. We've got We'vegot Michael Gilkinson, who actually has a
very special road today and lots totalk about. You have Sue Anne Fauconberg,
I have Stephanie and Stephanie. Yougot to help me with the last
name, because I feel like I'mgonna mess it up. Jenna Sex,
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Jenna Sexy. I would have totallymessed up. And Tommy is supposed to
be joining and it's okay, mypault, Okay, there is there is
all right, very nice, Okay, the whole gang is here. And
for you regular listeners, you know, we always like to take care of
family, and we always like totake care of the you know, our
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regulars and if they're doing something funand we like to promote it. But
this is a two for today becausewe had Tricia Morrison, who is again
the widow of Tommy the Gun Morrison, Tommy the Duke. I'm sorry sometimes
I have to say it the Gunfrom the Rocky movie, so I think
of them that way as well,we all do. And she has just
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been fighting such a big, importantfight and I've just been my heart's been
breaking for you, Tricia, thiswhole time, because it's like, how
is this not happening? How areyou not getting justice? How are you
not able to because you're getting thetruth out, but it seems like no
one's listening, and I don't understandit because it's such a compelling story,
which we'll talk about and review again. And so for a bout, even
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now we had you on a buddyyourgo I think and you know think you
this has got to work. Let'sall promote this, let's make this happen
that you can get the real storyout about Tommy. And now it's going
to happen. It's meant to be. It's so exciting. And Trisha,
why don't you, you know,for folks who aren't able to listen to
the last show. And it's beena little while, it's been a minute,
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Trisha, why didn't you tell uswhat you've been up to in your
tribute to Tommy and what you've beentrying to do and your mission. Yeah,
thank you, bb And it's niceto be on your show again.
Is it really almost a year?I can't believe that a little lesson year,
but still it's been a while.It's been a minute. Yeah,
it's been a very busy ten years. Tommy passed away actually September one,
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two thousand and thirteen, and that'scoming up next week. In fact,
it will be ten years, andI have not stopped fighting for him.
And there's a lot to be knownabout Tommy, the Duke Marthon, Tommy
Gunn from my side of the story. And you know, as a widow,
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I think that it will make senseto a lot of widows that don't
stop fighting for their husbands once they'vegone, and we just continue to fight,
And especially in Tommy's case, there'sa lot of stuff that people don't
know that happened during his life andenduring our marriage that I think will interest
a lot of people. Yeah.So, Tricia, what's so wonderful about
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this? Because I just love youand I just feel for you and my
heart breaks for you, and butnow I think it's a happy heart because
things are going to move along andyou're going to be able to get your
story out. Happy to have alittle partner. And Michael, why don't
we bring you in and why didn'tyou tell us how you and Trisha are
working together? What's up? What'sup? Michael? Hey? Well,
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we're officially announcing and the DD andTricia and myself are executive producing a love
story Tricia and Tommy Morrison, alove story who rights. There's a lot
of docs out there, and Ibelieve Tricia will tell more, but they're
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doing an official documentary in the UK. And the approach we're taking is,
I just I just want to knowmore about the love story. And I
think that's gonna hook a lot ofpeople in because a love story really always
hooks everyone, let's face it,so and that's how I see it too,
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So yeah, that's kind of theapproach we're gonna take thus far.
I mean, this woman for aJacob decade. Michael, And of course
you were on the show last time, and I think you wanted to kind
of jump in, but you hadother movies, you got other stuff going
on, So timing is everything.And of course for me being a widow
that had to fight for Paul allwith the Oscars snow, which was ridiculous.
Now, of course that's small nextto Tricia's battle, but to me
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it was big. As the widow, it was big. I was just
absolutely devastated and so upset. Youall remember that we did a show about
it, about how they snub Paulat the Oscars and Immamori and how do
you snub poster Forbina? What?What? How does that happen at the
Oscars? He's done two hundred movies, He's a legend and they put him
into QR code and not part ofthe show. Yeah, screw you,
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Academy, screw you. So that'swhy I'm like, you know, and
Tricia, I'm with you. Let'sdo this, Michael, You're in good
hand. Yeah, I think allthe details. Let's just do it.
And a love story is appropriate becauseoh my gosh, there are so many
people grieving and I just run acrossit all the time about how people just
there, they're just upset and grieving, and for those are loved ones who
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aren't here anymore, we have tofight the fight, like Tricia and Trisi's
got a bigger fight than probably anyoneI've ever seen as a widow. Yeah,
yeah, it's true. It was. Tommy's story has been suppressed and
as Michael said, there is anofficial documentary coming out on Tommy and I'm
so excited about that, and it'llbe a documentary has told by Tommy how
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he lived and breathed it, andthat I know will be a huge success.
But in addition, you know,a love story, you know,
Tommy and Tricia, there was alove story too, and you can't food
all that into an official documentary.That has to be totally separate, and
it'll reach a lot of different peopleout there that hopefully will continue to fight
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for their husbands, whether they're celebritiesor not. You know, my husband
was humans. He was a humanbeing, and a lot of people,
you know, forget that and theytreat him like, I don't know,
like like somebody bad, somebody tobring in seats and pay per views and
stuff like that, but they forgetthat. You know, he woke up
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every morning and drank coffee, tookthe garbage out, and was a human
being. And I think people needto see that. And you know,
to do this with Michael, Ithink will be great because it'll be a
lot of fun as well as alot of truth coming out. So I'm
happy for this. Thank you somuch. Guys, really appreciate that.
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Well, look, Patricia, you'rejust as you know. In my opinion,
I mean, it's no disrespect toTommy because of course I love him.
You know everybody does, you know, in the Rocky movies and as
a boxer, but you're kind ofmy hero or heroin. I mean,
so I look forward to this becauseI think you deserve to have a star
role in the documentary with everything you'vedone and also being a fellow widow,
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as a fellow widow, so beinga widow as well, I mean I
understand and feel you. And therewere so many of the widows out there
that have been in the same position. So you're like our leader. You're
like, you know, you're goingto lean the charge with this, and
you stuck with it for ten years, ten years. It's been agonizing for
me with one but you ten years. Just admire you so much. And
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what ladies was you know, StephanieSuin and also Tommy. I mean,
what do you want to think aboutthis? Don't you think it's amazing?
It's incredible. I'm so happy forher. Yeah, I think it's great.
You know, if this was myhusband, I'd probably be doing the
same I know it, to bedoing the same thing. You know it
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now you'd be in jail. Yes, I admire her. She's such a
lady and she's so she's so great. About how she presents herself and Michael,
look, you were brilliant to gothat angle. I mean, good
for you. I mean it's sosmart and it's exactly what you should be
doing deserves. I think it's timely, especially you know that it's been ten
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years and going going that way humanand love story approach to it, I
think is genius. Yeah, andI can I want to add that the
world needs to hear this now,especially in general out there a romance and
love, a real, real onebetween a man and a woman. It's
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needed right now because there's a voidOkay, yeah, and this is a
real romance ten years. The womanis not giving up. She is star
wart. She's determined. Every day. It's just probably every hour thinking what
am I going to do? Andnow it's going to happen? Yeah,
that's going to happen. Yeah,Yeah, that's rights. It was exciting.
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It was exciting to speak to Michaelabout it. You know, the
limelight was never on me and andit still isn't on me. You know,
a love story. You'll get tofind out more probably about Tommy's love
story with me than me with Tommy. Oh no, no, no,
both of you for sure both ofyou together. So Trisia, we're not
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going to let you get away withthat. You're the big star and loving
for that, and Tommy as well, of course, but so are you.
Yeah, well, I appreciate that. This morning I picked up a
piece of paper and I didn't evenknow we were going to do this show,
and it just hit home and Iwrote it down. It must have
been a few years ago, andit's it says a promise is a promise,
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but be willing to take criticism fromliving relatives. Oh my gosh,
it's true. We should keep weshould keep our promises to those living and
dead. And yeah, we needto keep doing that. So Trisia as
a fellow widow is fell a widow? Can someone help me out? I
feel like I'm not saying it right. Is it a fellow willow? Because
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that's like a boy? Am Inot doing this right there? And I
don't think there's a word for that. So you're I know, I'm trying
to think. You know, I'mpretty good worse smith usually, but I
can't think of anythings. But soI always feel Paul's presence. I feel
like Paul is always with me.Do you build that treasure. Is that
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a strange question for you, No, not strange at all. Absolutely,
he's with me. You know,there'll be certain signs, whether it's in
the clouds or papers or or somethingwill happen. It's like, wow,
Yeah, I think it's cool howthere are signs that are given to us
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from our loved ones that have passedon. Every once in a while,
I have a dream about my momand I feel like she's just there to
check in on me. I thinkthat our loved ones are with us all
this time. Yeah, they are. They are. Tell you a story
when I first went home after Imoved to DC and got married, I
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had a telegram from President Reagan,and I think I've told you the story
before, but I hadn't been homein a while. I didn't had the
telegram, and I thought something thefairius had happened to it. Well,
walk into the house. My momis sitting there, and my sister Joan
or everyone's like the back crying happy. I looked at my husband and I
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said, I know where the telegramis. Something just told me where it
was. And the only person thatwould have been able to tell it because
my mom wouldn't know, is mydad. So I walk in to my
mom's closet, which is like packedwith coats that she never wore, but
she never got rid of them.And it's like going through the wardrobe and
Narth split it open. Finally there'sa box on top of several other boxes,
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and I opened it up and there'sthe scrap book with my telegram.
Oh wow. Yeah, so thathe was there. He was there,
and like the last time I wenton before my mom died, it was
like he had finally Okay, she'sfine, I'm going okay, And that's
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what I got from it. That'swhat I got from being on the last
time. But they are there andthey watch. Yeah. Yeah, they
are great. And you know ifyou see a cardinal bird, that's them
checking up on you. Yeah,yeah, that's true. It's true there.
Their dad always called cardinals God's Christmasornaments, which they kind of are
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because they're so pretty. But yes, you know you see one. Yeah,
just something that happened a couple ofdays ago in DD. You'll laugh
at this because you see a lotof my posts on Twitter. Right,
somebody just really jealous had posted onFacebook, but literally two hundreds and thousands
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of people that Tommy was out ofhis mind meeting me and out of his
mind ma marrying me? Right?Can you imagine reading that on Facebook?
And so I read that, andthen that evening I got home and lying
on the table where I have lotsof papers because I still work on stuff
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for him, there were his MRIresults, MRI and MR results of when
he met me that showed that hewas absolutely in his right mind. Wow,
that's you know. And these areMRI and MRA results going back to
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two thousand and ten, two thousandand eleven. So I thought, all
right, tell me, yeah,I'll post those. So I posted them
and I said, so you're sayinghe was out of his mind to meet
me and marry me, but hereit clearly says, you know, on
an MRI that he was just fine. I mean, just stuff like that
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happens all the time all the time, you know, and you did with
Good Fellas and everything, right,you know, that was one of the
last movies that Tommy rented. Okay, it makes me tear out by the
way, Yeah, unbelieving they sneakaway. Yeah. And you know what
would tear up more is that ifBlockbusters were still in business, I'd owe
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a lot of late bees, right, I think we would. I think
there's one in organ so just don'toh no, yeah, because the ticket,
I've got it. It staced twentyand eleven. And he was a
huge fan of your husband. Andand I'm thinking, oh my goodness,
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I thank goodness Blockbusters is not inbusiness. I would owe a lot of
late fees on your right. Iwould love Tommy and Carl love that movie.
I mean, we watched Tommy inthe movie and he's so good and
he's a dog, I mean,and it was a compelling movie because you
know, Paul's more of a patriarchtype, so you know, the patriarchy
of that story resonated with him andcertainly me. So it's just, you
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know, I mean, it's soiconic and it's so important. And I
really think that this is going tobe big. I do, and you
know, and I'm just going tobe bold here and I think this Dog's
going to be better than the otherone. I'm sure the Brits will be
fine, but this is better.American love story is better. I'm just
saying, yeah, American style.And I know, Trisia with your accent,
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Now, where were you born,I have to ask, but you
know, I'm gonna go pro Usa, Usa always. But where were you
born? All right? Actually Iwas born on the Cape Verde Islands,
which were owned by Portugal. Myparents happened to be there when I was
born. But I was brought upin England and South America and a little
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bit of Poland and everywhere. Butyou were so nancy, Nancy and pretty
and I love it, and youknow, and when we do all the
red carpets with documentary, I'm justgonna be happy to know you. It's
gonna be awesome. It's gonna begreat lunch. So so hey, so
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hey, you guys, So whatis the Tommy for the docks? I
mean, what will come out first? And what are you thinking? And
you know what, what what doyou want think? What's coming first?
Do you know? Michael? Probablyso depending, I'd like to have this
out by December, but you neverknow, you never know. I want
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to. I tend to move veryfast. I've been. I've been getting
all kinds of signs to do thisas well. I know Tommy lived in
Oklahoma for a bit. I've metmore people from Oklahoma the past three weeks
since I decided to do it thanI think ever. I heard of Billie
Joe Shavers song the other day calledOklahoma Wind. Yeah, but Mike love
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scene. It's just all kinds ofsigns I'm liking you, but no,
no, no, the big signis this. Tricia was on Drings with
Dede of course. Of course that'sanother one. That was stuff. You're
busy with stuff and you have beensuch a great ally and friend, just
like all of you have been aboutthe widow situation, which is heartbreaking when
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you're on widow and you lose alove of your life and you know.
Yeah, so anyway, so everybodywas moved. But the show you're on,
Tricia, and you know, Ifelt like Mike wanted to do it
there, but it just wasn't myNow now it is the right time,
well, and I think it's willbe huge. And I rewatched I rewatched
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the hit Job the ESPN thirty forthirty because I was watching those when I
was after I finished my movie.And at the beginning of it, the
guy said, every fight with Tommyit was like a race to the finish
line. And that's the name ofmy film that I just finished. Like
that, Yeah, the real raceto the finish line is everybody knowing the
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truth about Tommy and Tricia and gettingit out there to people. And I
think now is the time to doit culturally and morally ethically. However you
want to say, it's it's waylong overdue, way, you know,
here's the thing, it's the righttime. So even though it was painful,
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Patricia to have to go year afteryear after year, my gosh,
you know, I love you somuch. Tricia. I don't know if
I could have done it. Ithink you're stronger than any woman I know
in the widow world. I meanI feel so weak and pathetic and just
trying to hang on in one year, let alone ten years. So I
just admire what you're doing so much. And the fact that Michael saw this
is the hook. Not to youknow, be glib about it. I
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mean, but this, this isa love story, is a big part
of this. And when you know, when he when he showed me kind
of what you're are going to do, what we will do because for me,
being a fellow widow, I wantto be like, yeah, this
is all about Tricia. Tommy isgoing to get his due as he should,
but I want you to get yourdoe as well as a fellow widow,
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since we don't know another word word. Yeah, because when the two
marry, they become one. SoI really wanted to be that's right.
Un So, Tricia, don't eversay you know, you're not the star,
because you both are because it wasthat kind of relationship. Paul and
I thought the same way, andpeople need that right now. It's like,
wow, look what this woman did. She just kept fighting and fighting
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and fighting for ten years. AndTommy was a fighter to the finish line,
you know. And again to Michael'spoint, his last movie, the
finish Line, he needed to finishthe finish line before he did this.
It's almost confusing, but I thinkwe all get it. And another thing
they in the thirty for thirty docs, they're like, oh, yeah,
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Tommy. They're saying Tommy got aspider bite and it really affected him badly.
And I'm putting my arm like thispurposefully. This is from a and
that sounds your Maine, isn't it. That just makes so much good.
Well, here's here's a guitar pick. I'll put a guitar pick over the
scar. Al Right, move yourarm a little bit, you have to
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move your arm into the Yeah,there you go. Yeah, don't go
to all right, tell me asMichael showing a spider bite. Tommy,
Yeah, you're a movie maker.Two. So what do you think?
Yeah, I think it's great.I love a good love story, especially
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a real one, you know,as supposed to all the la fake ones.
I mean, we all know something, and there's slight of good things
happening in the world right now thatwe really need to see this. This
is gonna be so poignant and sothe time it could not have been better.
So, Trusia, even if youhad to wait ten years, I
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agree with everybody here that it's theright time. It really is. Yeah,
especially everything going on in the world, this is a perfect time for
you to to do this and toshow real love between a man and a
woman, a real man and awoman. And Tommy's had to do with
this too, And Tommy, ifyou don't mind, it doesn't hurt too
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much, you can talk about yourlove story with Lydia and then you have
a fight on your own, yeah, not your own, of your own,
not on your own, because we'rewith you. But yeah, yeah,
we kind of have a love storyand it's a very beautiful one,
and she's been very ill for awhile and almost lost her not too long
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ago, and and it was veryscary and very fright name and she's on
a law on Wroke recovery. Ijust I worry every day about it,
not as much as I was worried, because they found some things and took
care of it. But you know, you and you think you're going to
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lose a love of your life.It's it's terrifying. And I'm setting and
you think, you know, andyou and Lyndy have had a bit of
a battle for a while, soyou know, we're all worried for her,
and we know we want the bestfor her. But you have a
real love story as well, youknow, and I think we all do.
We're all in good Well I'm notin a good relationship anymore other than
with Paul, who is you know, in around in spirit, just just
like you know, just like Tricia. But the rest of you are able
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to have lovely relationships. And I'mso happy for that. And Tricia probably
agrees with me and that she's offfor love now, so she's happy for
other people that have love. Butyeah, I mean, but you you
you have that for your bride,and she's been sick. So you're in
a bat right now. You're ina fight like Tommy Tommy, the dude
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Tommy, and it's Tommy Gunn TommyTommy and you know, and and I
find it really ironical people go afterthe spouse of the person who's sick.
If I do something, it's like, oh, no, you should be
with your wife right now, oryou know, we have our lives too,
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we can multitask. And I'm withher as much as I can,
and to the point where she getssick of it and says, get out
of here. Go through something thatthey would give Tommy or other Tommy a
hard time because it's like you're notnot hon twenty four. I mean what
I mean, it's so hard.Yeah, yeah, I told I told
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Sy just the other day. Isaid, you have no idea of our
relationship, so don't weigh in azip it. So it's like you have
so many details about what happened withTommy. And I remember when Politic we
were in all these hospitals and Iwould watch every Everybody's like, wow,
you could be a nurse, andI'm like, yeah, because you're not
we because you're not paying attention.You know, it's like you with Tommy,
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I mean, dealing with all thedetails because everyone's like, oh,
he's got AIDS or this. Whatexcuse me? Really? Really, you
know, you're you're you know,you can't just say that on the widow
This is a love of my lifeand you're not getting away with it,
and you are about to succeed andshow them off. Yeah, yeah,
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absolutely. I think when we getthis done, Michael, I will email
it to certain locations so that peoplecan see it. For example, there
was one enough said that she wouldn'tgive Tommy any CPR, but she would
give CPR to Magic Johnson. Right, Oh my gosh, out to me.
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So it was disgusting, I canI mean, that was the worst
thing I've heard. He's probably ayear and that's that's the worst thing I've
heard in a year. Yeah.In other words, that you know,
Magic Johnson wasn't in denialism, butTommy was right. So that's just something.
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So it's in our movie, Michael, they'll find out what I did
about that comment, right. Butthere's all kinds of stuff and I totally
agree with you know, Tommy,You Tommy who you have your wife who's
not very well. Yeah, peopledon't understand you know, what you do,
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do you know with your spouse,whether it's in hospital, at home,
or wherever. So yeah, SoTrisha, I'm going to ask you
because my gosh, I mean,you know, and I just feel like
you're you're such a sister to mein this because when Paul I had to
deal with things and the sickness andthen him dying, and then after he
died and you know, with youmuch longer. Yeah, but for you,
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you know, the whole experience,what do you think has been the
most poignant, most difficult part ofthis. I mean, the whole thing
is difficult, of course, thewhole thing. You know, when you're
actually married, nobody bothers you,and then suddenly everything changes when that person
dies, and I think that happensto a lot of people, whether their
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celebrities or not. Suddenly, youknow, the financial side gets involved,
the belongings, the ashes, thegrave, the heads, I mean,
just every aspect. But now disrespect, no disrespect to anyone who is not
married to the celebrity, but itdoes add an extra level yeah complexity,
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, becauseyou're not it's you can't be proud of
It's impossible for privacy and right andthe only thing you want is your privacy
at that moment. It prolongs themorning process. Absolutely, No, it
does. It does. Does youknow what, It's not only just the
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privacy. You know that every timesomebody uses privacy, it kind of reminds
me of you know, Harry andMegan wanting their privacy. Right, they
don't write our book, but checkout our wet look at look at my
legs, look at my shoes.What am I worried? Yeah, I'm
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sorry, Treasure, We're back,we are, but we love you.
I'm thinking South Park right now.I'm sorry, But the south That's hilarious,
you know, right, we loveyou, but not so much some
of the others. Yeah, soyeah, Mike and Michael, you definitely
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need to see that South Park.Is that? That is pretty huge?
That actually remind me of the ESPNthirty for thirty on Tommy is that South
pot pot? But yeah, youknow, it's not just a privacy or
the privacy however you want to sayit. But it's how things get twisted
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out in the media and you're portrayedas the wicked widow, right, and
and that's something that needs to getcleared up and I'm looking forward to doing
that as well. How could anyonelink you're the wicked widow? I mean,
in what world is that the case? Trisia? Seriously, I mean,
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all you're doing fighting for your husband. I'll tell you this what stuck
out is she was telling me thatfor the thirty for thirty doc they weren't
even going to interview her, andthen they, yeah, not at all.
She had to contact them and thenshe did a three hour interview you
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and I think they used not evenfifteen seconds total from a three hour against
Tommy. They had an agenda againstTommy, so you know, and Tricia
is very beautiful, she's articulate.I mean, you know they don't want
her a part of that because theyhad a mission. Well guess what is
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going to totally decimate them as wellas I'm and I helped the UK docum.
So, Tricia, do you havelike good vibes about the UK doctor
Do you think they'll do Absolutely,they will. They will do a fantastic
job. And you know what Michaeland I are going to work on is
going to be more of a privatelove story, you know, whereas the
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UK documentary will be Tommy as Tommylived and breathed his own life as told
by Tommy. So I think betweenthe two documentaries out there, we're going
to hit a lot of a lotof people and it's going to be exciting.
Yeah, that's great, that isgreat. Who's who's doing it in
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the UK? Yeah. Yeah,it's a small company, but with a
lot of heart to them. Andthen it's better. That's better. That's
that's really good, very good.Yeah, I mean definitely. You don't
want tell me story to be pickedup by Disney or Good and then you
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know, and then they bury ita disaster, they'll bury it. So
guys want to see Disney star theredo a lot of documentaries, I mean,
in my opinion, you know,and Michael knows what he's doing,
and I'll help it along annoy anytimeI can, with the with the with
the Widow's crew and with you know, helping to promote and happy to put
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everything together because it was meant tobe, by the way, this is
meant to be. Yah, youdeserve your do And I still am just
so thrilled that Michael thought a lovestory and that's exactly what should be.
And poor Michael's been living with mygrief for the last year, you know,
like he gets it now, hegets wet. Don't think he came
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to my celebration of life for Paul, so he's seen that. So my
guests and I'm helping. You know, the stars aligned and you deserve your
do you know, Tommy is goingto get his do as you should,
Thank goodness. Finally, finally.But the love story is a big deal
too, because you've been at thisfor a decade. A decade most women
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would give up, not because theywant to, because they just couldn't handle
it. But you didn't. You'restill here, You're working on it.
You're gonna have your voice. It'sgoing to be a love story. Couldn't
be more excited for you. Yeah. Yeah, I think people need to
see the legal side of everything thatyou know, we've gone through. And
I always say weak because it isjust Tommy and I that have gone through
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it. But to go to yeah, to go to the US Supreme Court
twice on the same lawsuit, itsuddenly wasn't a waste of time. There
was a lot of stuff that cameout in that ten year lawsuit, but
you know, just all kinds ofthings that happened getting to the US Supreme
Court, and and there's still stuffhappening. You know, the story will
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probably I don't. It doesn't reallyhave an ending yet. Oh, it's
the truth is I have to run, guys, I got to run into
the doctor. But okay, everyyou two, take care, you go
girl, thank you, bye bye, thank you. The truth is the
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truth, and that's the most importantthing. And the truth is what really
happened. And I watched that documentaryand ESPN and it looks ESPN his own
Disney exactly. Yeah, they havean agenda. It is a very part
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is an agenda which is not truthbased. Yeah, the truth. Look,
the truth is Ambarna's truth can beugly, it can be beautiful,
it can be real, and that'swhat we're looking for, right. This
is powerful, Yes, Tommy gun. Yes, that's crude, let's just
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face it. Yeah, And thatof the truth widowing for the truth.
And she's gonna win in the end, and it will be a beacon of
hope for all the widows and forall the love stories and in the boxers
or whatever. I mean. She'sgoing to expose all this with Michael and
me helping a bit. So itis very exciting in a way that is
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just compelling, touching, meant tobe, I should Yep, you're the
bomb. Yeah, thanks you are. I'm just here. I'm just here
at your I'm your groupy I'm yourgrouppy. By the way, I wanted
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to get to tell everybody tell usabout Tommy's son. Is he's still like
boxing? What's going on because youknow, we were talking about going to
a fight together. What's going onwith him recently or what? No,
nothing recently. Everything's pretty quiet.So yep, that's well. You know,
you're well with you having not onebut two dogs coming out yet.
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Great. I'm so proud of you, and I'm so proud of Michael,
and I just think it's so meantto be and you know, and the
stars of the line and it's reallygoing to be lovely. You know,
the world needs love right now.There's so much going on that's not good
and it's so bad that you know, with what happened when Tommy, that
they treated him unfairly and you're goingto uncover this and you know, and
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that's more the other dog, butthat the love that you have for him,
makes you work for it for adecade. Let's not forget that a
decade. I'm an agony at oneyear, one year in folks, one
year look at this woman. Iam like, I'm not worthy. You
were so amazing. So anything Ido, you know, I'm gonna you
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know, and you want to godown. You want me to kick Don
King and the balls, I willdo it, and ask they know I
will, Yeah, you will,and they'll film it. I'll film it
and then i'll do them down.You can film doing it. I want
to jail, jail, but I'lldo I'm a microphone to get good sound
on its Don King and the Ballsfor you all go to jail. We
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might have to get eight or ninetakes just so you know. You might
have to keep doing it so weget that right angle. I have many
questions about why he would say thatany will isn't true and you know what
I'm talking about. It's like,it's not it's beyond that, dick,
it's evil. It is that youare evil. And I've been so angry
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that nobody you know, and Idon't mean that say this wrong way,
but I feel like nobody's paid attentionto Tricia, which has kissed me off
beyond belief. So you know,I am not going to finish until she
gets her due. And then Michaelstepped up out of the blue one day.
He wanted to do it before,but he was busy, you know,
he's got stuff going on. Andthen, you know, we had
even worked with another person that didn'treally quite work out. Great people though,
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you know. And then Michael addof the blue, as I'm thinking
about Trish and I'm thinking about beingsad about being a widow, and then
I'm talking to another friend who losta spouse, and we're all just miserable,
you know, we're just it's sosad because we've missed the loves of
our lives. And Michael popped up, Sezy, what's going on with this?
I said, we know. Imean I don't think there's going on
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anything yet, you know, Andhe said, well, I'm ready to
do it. I said, great, thank God, let's do this.
Let's help this woman, Let's makeit work, Let's make it happen.
So guess what it's happening. Happening, Trisha. You deserve this, I
mean, God bless you, andand you know, there'll be a lot
of widows, and you know,and and Tommy deserves this. Tommy got
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screwed over. He deserves it,but you deserve it as well. You
got screwed over as well. Youare not treated fairly like you know,
you say the evil widow, whichis ridiculous, but because you have the
truth, because you know the truthand they didn't want it out. But
guess what it's common? Well,can I ask a question, yeah,
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Tresha, was there was there moneyinvolved? Because I'm trying to figure out
why would they would put you inthat position? You mean, why would
they screw Tommy over? Yeah?Why would they say what they said?
Why did they say he had HIV? Yeah? Is there like money involved?
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You know? Well he had justsigned a multimillion dollar contract with Don
King to fight Mike Tyson. Okay, so you know there's there's a lot
of people that are boxes out thereor the boxing world that I think the
same way as Tommy thought that Tommywould beat Mike Tyson. Yeah, would
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have Yeah, And am not gonnaI am not gonna go And now I
can say this in public, whatI think Why I think they did that?
And it doesn't has to do withmoney to be his ass and they
didn't want that, so so theymade ship yep, yeah, yeah,
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and then it's stick because I'm notgoing to say this either because it's politically
incorrect the media when we still becomepolitically okay, okay, do you know
what the reason why there's there's moneyin balls of Don King? But there
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are people in the media that reallywant everybody to be like them, if
you know what I mean. Andif this guy who's married to a woman,
he's got a child with, youknow, if he has aids,
well, then jeez, you knowwhat I'm saying. And it's like,
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no, that's not how it works. This was a lie and you guys
are perpetuating it. It's such aweird. I mean, you know what
they picked up to take him out? What do you what do you think?
Well, actually, about two monthsago a lady, her name is
Angelique McQueen. She approached me andshe said that her boxer had just signed
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on with Don King, and Kinghad told her boxer, this was in
two thousand and eleven, that forhim not to worry about his medicals because
he paid off the doctors. Andso the boxer whose name was Omar Henry,
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who mysteriously died in two thousand andthirteen, the same year Tommy died.
Oh my God. Had told Angeliqueabout this conversation that Don King had
actually said that he had paid offa doctor in Vegas to say that Tommy
had a blood disease to get himout of boxing. And apparently the doctor
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or whoever had chosen HIV is beingthe disease. And of course, you
know Don King, Don King couldn'ttake that back, right because you know,
supposedly when you have HIV or Athat's it. You know, there's
no cure for it. So sothat just came out to two months ago
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and she started to do to dointerviews as well, and you need to
get her onto your podcast because sheis absolutely amazing. She is so apologetic
that she did not say something backin two thousand and eleven. And anyway,
so the story's come out. They'rejust like me is being suppressed,
right, So it's all very veryinteresting. Now. The one thing I
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want to say is that people canlie. You know, people can say
you've got HIV, you know you'vegot AIDS. You know, some test
results could be false positive. Youcould test false positive on certain tests,
but sells Human cells don't lie,right. I can show you pictures of
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Tommy's cells inside his body that showhe had no HIV and no AIDS.
So that's that's pretty huge, andthat's something that I hope Michael will focus
on. Is the science behind everythingthat's been you know, uncovered, Patricia.
I think that has taken so longis because now it's totally believable because
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that's of the last election and theCOVID bs at least half the country,
you know, the United States issplint and a half. But the Red
people are like, this is bullshit. Now we know it. Screw you
for lying and making us give upour business as whatever. So people are
(44:37):
angry so about the lies of this. So I think the reason this has
taken so long, and I'm sosorry it was harder on you than it
took so long, But now peopleare ready to accept that. Yet hallo
fauci liar, you know what,this was not true. This was made
up two push your agenda. Sonow this is completely believable when Tommy and
(45:02):
and we know it's true, butnow everyone else will know it's true.
So I think that's why the timingis what it is. Everybody's going to
go. Absolutely, we've all experiencedthis line in this crap and whatever because
we had to do with the withthe fake pandemic and Port Tommy. You
know, Port Tommy got screwed over. So I think the timings right Tommy.
(45:27):
Indeed, the Nevada State Athletic Commissionthat really screwed him over. Now
that some time has passed, ConnorMcGregor, there's a lot of people vote
Connor McGregor. He won't he willnot fight in the state of Nevada ever
again because of that commission. Sowhat does that tell you? Does I
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tell you it's one of those thingswhere you want to ask him, OPI
a guy, what's going on?Because that's I think we all know.
We don't even have to ask guy, did he? Can I ask you
a favor, Can you approach MichaelFrenzies to come on? Sure? I
would love to talk to him.Okay, done he You know, there's
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so much underground crap that people takefor like, Okay, this is the
way it is. No, it'snot. And now that we've got that
on that, we'll do that.But for now, with Tricia and Vegas,
and I'm going to Vegas just youguys know, Saturday, and said
we're doing a good fella sit down. Tommy would love to be there.
I wish he'll be there in spirit. Tricia, you're invited when it come
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done, you're my guest. Butwe're doing in Vegas. We're doing a
good fella sit down with Sarvino,you know. And you know, Trisa,
you know this. Paul did asculpture called you know it was a
boxer and it's a really beautiful,beautiful sculpture. I have to send you
in a picture of it. Butwhat it is, it's a it's a
boxer and he's like, oh,you know, he just spent and that's
(46:59):
a title up. This sculpture isstill champion. Tommy is still champion,
and so are you. We haveto put that in the documentary. Yeah,
to beautiful and it looks like Tommy. I want to get a black
room and just dark and we'll maybeput an orangeish light above it and then
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ye, you know, yeah,get the shadows just right. No,
I cannot wait Patricia to have herday. I'm so angry about this.
She's gonna have her day. AndMichael thank you for joining in. And
you know, and I'm glad we'reall there to get together and make it
all work. Well, I feelcompelled to. And it's all. If
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I had some money, you know, if I had money, I'd throw
some money at this. You know, you just be you just be in
this. You just be cheering everythingon. That's I I am. Oh
man, we'll be the cheerleaders.Yes, we need cheerleaders. Yeah,
we need to help about it.Yeah. You know, everybody likes the
(48:05):
underdog, you know, and rightnow, I mean, Tommy should not
be the underdog because he was likethis good looking great boxer and he was
the guy ahead of the crowd,but then they screwed him over. And
then now ten years later, withTricia's help, the underdog is gonna win.
So it's ultimately the Rocky story.It's ultimately the Rocky story. And
(48:30):
TIA's gonna touched on and where SylvesterStallone's and some of these other people.
But it's sort of to me,it seems like they've left Tricia out on
an island. But that's okay.She's strong enough. We're gonna lift her
up, and she she doesn't evenneed lift it up. She's strong on
her own. But you know,it's always gonna have a team. It's
always gonna have a team. Andyou're gonna win, Tricia, And I'm
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so happy for you. It's it'sall gonna work. It's all gonna work.
I'm excited when I'm in jail forkicking Don King and the ball,
do you guys, don't build meout. I'll be next to her.
You know, she'll do it.I'll film it. I'll do it,
She'll film it jail. I willgo to jail. Problem. He looks
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like a troll doll on Hassett.I know, I know he's available.
Horrible, I don't, I don't. I mean, so do you think
it really will be done? Sotell me about what you're gonna Okay,
so what's the plan? I mean, are we go to you know,
are we going to do this likewith the film, like with the with
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the movie festival circuit or maybe someminute for Oscars like documentary Oscar and so
you have to put it in theaters, a few theaters, you know what,
you know what the process is rightto be able to get a Oscar
nomination, which I think this wellthey could well d d you are the
Emmy Award winners, So I'm gonnalet you handle all that stuff. I'm
(50:04):
just gonna make the documentary and Iwant to I got a psychology buddy that
I want to bring in and haveher kind of speak on this. I
think it'll be really good because thepsychological element of it all is like if
I were to say, oh,there's a purple elephant over there, You're
thinking, Oh, there's a purpleelephant over there. You believe it.
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So the power of media this andthat is so we're just gonna lay it
all is starting with the love story. We're laying it down. We're adding
humor into it, entertainment, funny, informative to where you watch it and
you go, wow, this isdeplorable and compelling at the same time and
(50:46):
compelling it at the same time.Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Can you
not love Tricia? I mean whatmakes me angries? I think these people,
like she said, it made hersort of like the bad widow?
Are you kidding me? How canyou be a bad widow? One?
Secondly, how could Tricia be abad widow? Are you kidding me?
This is total craft. Time forthe truth to come out, Time for
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Tricia to be the heroine that sheis, and for Tommy for the truth
to come out. I love it. It's all gonna work. It's all
meant to be. And I'm sorryit took ten years, but we didn't
know you five six or seven oreight years ago. So now it's time.
Yeah, everything happens, and it'stime it does and for a season.
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Yeah, what do you think,so Anne, you think it's gonna
be a big hit. I do. It's gonna be a huge hit.
I'm super excited. You can winan Academy Award for it. I have
high hopes for this because it's socrazy. It's so crazy, it's so
crazy wrong. And then we fixedit and was like, wow, I
am so moved. I think peoplewill be moved. And Michael does good
(51:52):
work. I mean, you youknow. And plus not only that,
Michael is has a the love ofhis life as well. I mean he's
very happy with Howdi's lovely, sohe gets the love story part. So
well, yeah, I do.I don't show it on the show much,
but I am highly empathetic and Ithink of my own wife if that
happened to her, and it justyou know, makes me sad and then
(52:15):
I get angry and h Yeah,so we're gonna we're in a time do
a good job of it. Yeah, and you know we'll touch a lot
of it. It'll touch a lotof people that way. It'll touch a
lot of people that way, becauseyou know, a love story, like
Michael said and Trisha knows, isvery powerful and when you're fighting for a
(52:37):
decade, for the love of yourlife, for the truth. Wow,
I mean, I gotta tell you, I don't even know another story like
that? Do you want to?I can't even think, you know,
when I think about it, Idon't even think don Kane deserves a kick
in the balls. I think likea literal beatdown, a little look,
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I can do him go kicking theball. Just have my bail money ready,
that's all? Yeah? Yeah,yeah, Well I'll be right behind
mediographer there because when to when Ikick him in the balls, go to
jail. Trish's laughing or going.I think we're just gonna have to pay
the sound guy more. The soundguy's gonna be there. Better one to
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point it right, made a littlegush sound like DD, There'll there'll be
a video of me dragging him acrossthe floor by his hairs team here,
where where your where your pots?Now? Yeah? I just right.
(53:45):
It's one of those things where it'slike you actually said back to get him
out of the boxing match? Areyou evan kidding me? I know,
okay, okay, ain't. Atthe time was so mysterious and so taboo.
I mean, they gotta wait withit. Well not now because after
all this stupid COVID crap. Everybody'slike, oh, well, clearly he
(54:07):
was lying. People are like,well do I think then? They were
scared and I think now, Andthat's why it's good for time to gone
by, even though on it's turnedon Tricia. Everybody's like, god,
now we know. And I livesympathetic to time and I live over by.
There's a Quest Diagnostics near me.In twenty twenty, they saw record
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profits dollar and they're the ones doingthese tests. So you have you have
these people putting out tests that aremaking money from making tests. Yeah yeah,
oh well we gotta make the testsbetter. I mean the last one.
(54:49):
But it doesn't say yeah, yeah, it's all about money for big
pharma. You know, they're therichest, they are so so so rich.
Hey you got it, just notmillions, the billion, watch the
watch the fugitive tonight. God,here we go back to Harrison Ford,
(55:10):
Tricia, and he goes back toHarrison Ford with Stephanie. It doesn't matter.
And by the way, that makesno sense at all, zero sense.
Stephanie, that's okay, we loveyou when no, No, it's
actually it's a drug that helps,that helps like by cholesterol and it causes
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bleeding. Yeah, nobody knows thatexcept for Stephanie because it's such a minute
point in the movie. Tricia,So what questions you know, because you
know you're out there doing your thingor whatever. I'm just curious what what
what is the most prevalent question ofpeople, what they ask you or their
comments to you. I'm just socurious about all of this. What do
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they say to you whatever they're like, when do they ask you more than
anything else? Where? They commenton more than anything else, you know,
they comment on everything that I've done, and they don't comment in a
very nice way some of them.And then really yeah, and then but
(56:15):
those people mainly when they start targeting, for example, this podcast, they'll
comment and it's mainly paid farma trolls. Right, got it, got it?
Got it. Okay, that makessense, right, you know,
and yeah, you know, Andthen they're the most popular question is you
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know, well why didn't he gettested again? You know? And my
answer is, well, he didget tested again, but it also was
not an FDA approved test that detectsthe virus, so you know, he
kept on getting tested. But whyare we not talking about the post mortem?
(57:02):
Is my response. Let's talk abouthis final, final diagnosis where he
did not have the virus anywhere inhis system. So, and like if
somebody's listening right now and they go, no, no, no, he
definitely had it because look at thephotos. Well, if you're going by
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photo of Tommy, then then showme, show me the post mortem that
you have the shows he has HIVas compared to the post mortem that I
have that was done by professionals andscientists in the fields of virology and microbiology.
(57:42):
So then they then then they're quiet, right yeah, because they don't
know what they're talking about. AndI think Tommy looks good there too.
I mean you know, look,I look, if you're a boxer and
you're beeping up and you're working out, and then if you're not doing it
as much, I mean you're gonnasit out, right, aren't you going
to slim down a bit? Right? And in fact, Tommy did say
(58:04):
that, he said there were twofighters, him and Vander Holyfield, that
when they were not training, theywould lose weight as opposed to other fighters
that would just sit and binge andput on weight. Right. Right.
But the mug shot, I think, Michael, that's what we need to
focus on that. Everybody says,yeah, look he's got a look at
(58:24):
the mug shot. Well, ohyeah, like you can take I'm sorry,
I didn't know Kodak had like,you know, the formula praise,
didn't I didn't realize that. Thankyou very much, Kodak. Right,
yeah, I mean the horrific stuff. We'll go through the horrific stuff of
what he went through in jail forthose thirty days for him to look like
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that, you know, people needto know that can make anybody look like
they've got AIDS. Well, Imean, you know, when I go
to jail, when I kicked DonKing and the balls, I'm gonna look
like a yeah AIDS when I getout. Just saying, so everybody be
ready, Dad, he's got asso bad. But I'm in Latricia I'm
there for you. I'm writing kickdunking in the balls, go to jail
(59:06):
for you. I will do it. So, but we think we need
to do a drink picture. Ifyou do have a drink. I've got
my Usa Usa cup because I thinkTommy Morrison and Tricia Morrison are great Americans.
So let's do that. So,oh Tommy, oh god. Now
we have Michael to do the picture. Michael, take like twenty I swear
(59:29):
to please. I'm begging you.We need a good picture. Don't look.
Get a picture of me with myeyes closed, and do a good
one, and do a bunch ofthem. Please. All right, everyone's
smiling now ready? Three? Many? Two? One? All that's one?
Hang on, so bad. I'msorry, Tricia when Michael is so
horrible. But go ahead. Iknow, I know he's a good filmmaker.
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There, I promise, there wego. Oh my god, Ever,
somebody else's fifty and and it takesthree. I don't know how they
do it. Okay, here wego. All right, let me see.
(01:00:13):
I'm oh my god, this isso bad. Sorry doing the docs
in the movies. This is usuallyTommy, but he had to see a
sweetheart. Okay, guys, three, Tricia, let's wish luck with this
wonderful and give lots of love forthis wonderful doc. You're all going to
(01:00:34):
be on the red carpet. We'regonna make it all work. It's gonna
be fabulous. You know. Triciais the boss, she's the one doing
this, and Michael is like,you know, making it work. And
I'm just there to help anyway Ican. So anyway you will all be
invited to the red You brought ittogether. Thanks for bringing it together.
An executive producing it, you know, happy to it. You know,
my heart goes out to Tricia,and of course Michael's like my brother from
(01:00:58):
another mother. So you know,that's how it works. That's what we
do. We help each other out, right, Trisha, Yeah, we
do, We really do. It'sall gonna work. We'll all be on
the red carpet. And when I'min jail, please bail me out at
some point. And when I looklike I have aids in thirty days,
just tell everybody I look good forus. Don't let them epstein me.
(01:01:24):
Yeah, don't let them do that. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Tuck to Tommy, all right,tom Story, thanks, thank you,
very much. It's gonna be great. Thank you, all right.
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good afternoon, everybody. Thank you. I'm so so happy to have you
back in import. We've got We'vegot Michael Gilkinson, who actually has a
very special road today and lots totalk about. You have Sue Anne Fauconberg,
I have Stephanie and Stephanie. Yougot to help me with the last
name, because I feel like I'mgonna mess it up. Jenna Sex,
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Jenna Sexy. I would have totallymessed up. And Tommy is supposed to
be joining and it's okay, mypault, Okay, there is there is
all right, very nice, Okay, the whole gang is here. And
for you regular listeners, you know, we always like to take care of
family, and we always like totake care of the you know, our
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regulars and if they're doing something funand we like to promote it. But
this is a two for today becausewe had Tricia Morrison, who is again
the widow of Tommy the Gun Morrison, Tommy the Duke. I'm sorry sometimes
I have to say it the Gunfrom the Rocky movie, so I think
of them that way as well,we all do. And she has just
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been fighting such a big, importantfight and I've just been my heart's been
breaking for you, Tricia, thiswhole time, because it's like, how
is this not happening? How areyou not getting justice? How are you
not able to because you're getting thetruth out, but it seems like no
one's listening, and I don't understandit because it's such a compelling story,
which we'll talk about and review again. And so for a bout, even
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now we had you on a buddyyourgo I think and you know think you
this has got to work. Let'sall promote this, let's make this happen
that you can get the real storyout about Tommy. And now it's going
to happen. It's meant to be. It's so exciting. And Trisha,
why don't you, you know,for folks who aren't able to listen to
the last show. And it's beena little while, it's been a minute,
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Trisha, why didn't you tell uswhat you've been up to in your
tribute to Tommy and what you've beentrying to do and your mission. Yeah,
thank you, bb And it's niceto be on your show again.
Is it really almost a year?I can't believe that a little lesson year,
but still it's been a while.It's been a minute. Yeah,
it's been a very busy ten years. Tommy passed away actually September one,
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two thousand and thirteen, and that'scoming up next week. In fact,
it will be ten years, andI have not stopped fighting for him.
And there's a lot to be knownabout Tommy, the Duke Marthon, Tommy
Gunn from my side of the story. And you know, as a widow,
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I think that it will make senseto a lot of widows that don't
stop fighting for their husbands once they'vegone, and we just continue to fight,
And especially in Tommy's case, there'sa lot of stuff that people don't
know that happened during his life andenduring our marriage that I think will interest
a lot of people. Yeah.So, Tricia, what's so wonderful about
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this? Because I just love youand I just feel for you and my
heart breaks for you, and butnow I think it's a happy heart because
things are going to move along andyou're going to be able to get your
story out. Happy to have alittle partner. And Michael, why don't
we bring you in and why didn'tyou tell us how you and Trisha are
working together? What's up? What'sup? Michael? Hey? Well,
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we're officially announcing and the DD andTricia and myself are executive producing a love
story Tricia and Tommy Morrison, alove story who rights. There's a lot
of docs out there, and Ibelieve Tricia will tell more, but they're
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doing an official documentary in the UK. And the approach we're taking is,
I just I just want to knowmore about the love story. And I
think that's gonna hook a lot ofpeople in because a love story really always
hooks everyone, let's face it,so and that's how I see it too,
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So yeah, that's kind of theapproach we're gonna take thus far.
I mean, this woman for aJacob decade. Michael, And of course
you were on the show last time, and I think you wanted to kind
of jump in, but you hadother movies, you got other stuff going
on, So timing is everything.And of course for me being a widow
that had to fight for Paul allwith the Oscars snow, which was ridiculous.
Now, of course that's small nextto Tricia's battle, but to me
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it was big. As the widow, it was big. I was just
absolutely devastated and so upset. Youall remember that we did a show about
it, about how they snub Paulat the Oscars and Immamori and how do
you snub poster Forbina? What?What? How does that happen at the
Oscars? He's done two hundred movies, He's a legend and they put him
into QR code and not part ofthe show. Yeah, screw you,
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Academy, screw you. So that'swhy I'm like, you know, and
Tricia, I'm with you. Let'sdo this, Michael, You're in good
hand. Yeah, I think allthe details. Let's just do it.
And a love story is appropriate becauseoh my gosh, there are so many
people grieving and I just run acrossit all the time about how people just
there, they're just upset and grieving, and for those are loved ones who
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aren't here anymore, we have tofight the fight, like Tricia and Trisi's
got a bigger fight than probably anyoneI've ever seen as a widow. Yeah,
yeah, it's true. It was. Tommy's story has been suppressed and
as Michael said, there is anofficial documentary coming out on Tommy and I'm
so excited about that, and it'llbe a documentary has told by Tommy how
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he lived and breathed it, andthat I know will be a huge success.
But in addition, you know,a love story, you know,
Tommy and Tricia, there was alove story too, and you can't food
all that into an official documentary.That has to be totally separate, and
it'll reach a lot of different peopleout there that hopefully will continue to fight
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for their husbands, whether they're celebritiesor not. You know, my husband
was humans. He was a humanbeing, and a lot of people,
you know, forget that and theytreat him like, I don't know,
like like somebody bad, somebody tobring in seats and pay per views and
stuff like that, but they forgetthat. You know, he woke up
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every morning and drank coffee, tookthe garbage out, and was a human
being. And I think people needto see that. And you know,
to do this with Michael, Ithink will be great because it'll be a
lot of fun as well as alot of truth coming out. So I'm
happy for this. Thank you somuch. Guys, really appreciate that.
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Well, look, Patricia, you'rejust as you know. In my opinion,
I mean, it's no disrespect toTommy because of course I love him.
You know everybody does, you know, in the Rocky movies and as
a boxer, but you're kind ofmy hero or heroin. I mean,
so I look forward to this becauseI think you deserve to have a star
role in the documentary with everything you'vedone and also being a fellow widow,
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as a fellow widow, so beinga widow as well, I mean I
understand and feel you. And therewere so many of the widows out there
that have been in the same position. So you're like our leader. You're
like, you know, you're goingto lean the charge with this, and
you stuck with it for ten years, ten years. It's been agonizing for
me with one but you ten years. Just admire you so much. And
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what ladies was you know, StephanieSuin and also Tommy. I mean,
what do you want to think aboutthis? Don't you think it's amazing?
It's incredible. I'm so happy forher. Yeah, I think it's great.
You know, if this was myhusband, I'd probably be doing the
same I know it, to bedoing the same thing. You know it
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now you'd be in jail. Yes, I admire her. She's such a
lady and she's so she's so great. About how she presents herself and Michael,
look, you were brilliant to gothat angle. I mean, good
for you. I mean it's sosmart and it's exactly what you should be
doing deserves. I think it's timely, especially you know that it's been ten
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years and going going that way humanand love story approach to it, I
think is genius. Yeah, andI can I want to add that the
world needs to hear this now,especially in general out there a romance and
love, a real, real onebetween a man and a woman. It's
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needed right now because there's a voidOkay, yeah, and this is a
real romance ten years. The womanis not giving up. She is star
wart. She's determined. Every day. It's just probably every hour thinking what
am I going to do? Andnow it's going to happen? Yeah,
that's going to happen. Yeah,Yeah, that's rights. It was exciting.
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It was exciting to speak to Michaelabout it. You know, the
limelight was never on me and andit still isn't on me. You know,
a love story. You'll get tofind out more probably about Tommy's love
story with me than me with Tommy. Oh no, no, no,
both of you for sure both ofyou together. So Trisia, we're not
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going to let you get away withthat. You're the big star and loving
for that, and Tommy as well, of course, but so are you.
Yeah, well, I appreciate that. This morning I picked up a
piece of paper and I didn't evenknow we were going to do this show,
and it just hit home and Iwrote it down. It must have
been a few years ago, andit's it says a promise is a promise,
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but be willing to take criticism fromliving relatives. Oh my gosh,
it's true. We should keep weshould keep our promises to those living and
dead. And yeah, we needto keep doing that. So Trisia as
a fellow widow is fell a widow? Can someone help me out? I
feel like I'm not saying it right. Is it a fellow willow? Because
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that's like a boy? Am Inot doing this right there? And I
don't think there's a word for that. So you're I know, I'm trying
to think. You know, I'mpretty good worse smith usually, but I
can't think of anythings. But soI always feel Paul's presence. I feel
like Paul is always with me.Do you build that treasure. Is that
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a strange question for you, No, not strange at all. Absolutely,
he's with me. You know,there'll be certain signs, whether it's in
the clouds or papers or or somethingwill happen. It's like, wow,
Yeah, I think it's cool howthere are signs that are given to us
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from our loved ones that have passedon. Every once in a while,
I have a dream about my momand I feel like she's just there to
check in on me. I thinkthat our loved ones are with us all
this time. Yeah, they are. They are. Tell you a story
when I first went home after Imoved to DC and got married, I
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had a telegram from President Reagan,and I think I've told you the story
before, but I hadn't been homein a while. I didn't had the
telegram, and I thought something thefairius had happened to it. Well,
walk into the house. My momis sitting there, and my sister Joan
or everyone's like the back crying happy. I looked at my husband and I
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said, I know where the telegramis. Something just told me where it
was. And the only person thatwould have been able to tell it because
my mom wouldn't know, is mydad. So I walk in to my
mom's closet, which is like packedwith coats that she never wore, but
she never got rid of them.And it's like going through the wardrobe and
Narth split it open. Finally there'sa box on top of several other boxes,
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and I opened it up and there'sthe scrap book with my telegram.
Oh wow. Yeah, so thathe was there. He was there,
and like the last time I wenton before my mom died, it was
like he had finally Okay, she'sfine, I'm going okay, And that's
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what I got from it. That'swhat I got from being on the last
time. But they are there andthey watch. Yeah. Yeah, they
are great. And you know ifyou see a cardinal bird, that's them
checking up on you. Yeah,yeah, that's true. It's true there.
Their dad always called cardinals God's Christmasornaments, which they kind of are
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because they're so pretty. But yes, you know you see one. Yeah,
just something that happened a couple ofdays ago in DD. You'll laugh
at this because you see a lotof my posts on Twitter. Right,
somebody just really jealous had posted onFacebook, but literally two hundreds and thousands
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of people that Tommy was out ofhis mind meeting me and out of his
mind ma marrying me? Right?Can you imagine reading that on Facebook?
And so I read that, andthen that evening I got home and lying
on the table where I have lotsof papers because I still work on stuff
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for him, there were his MRIresults, MRI and MR results of when
he met me that showed that hewas absolutely in his right mind. Wow,
that's you know. And these areMRI and MRA results going back to
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two thousand and ten, two thousandand eleven. So I thought, all
right, tell me, yeah,I'll post those. So I posted them
and I said, so you're sayinghe was out of his mind to meet
me and marry me, but hereit clearly says, you know, on
an MRI that he was just fine. I mean, just stuff like that
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happens all the time all the time, you know, and you did with
Good Fellas and everything, right,you know, that was one of the
last movies that Tommy rented. Okay, it makes me tear out by the
way, Yeah, unbelieving they sneakaway. Yeah. And you know what
would tear up more is that ifBlockbusters were still in business, I'd owe
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a lot of late bees, right, I think we would. I think
there's one in organ so just don'toh no, yeah, because the ticket,
I've got it. It staced twentyand eleven. And he was a
huge fan of your husband. Andand I'm thinking, oh my goodness,
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I thank goodness Blockbusters is not inbusiness. I would owe a lot of
late fees on your right. Iwould love Tommy and Carl love that movie.
I mean, we watched Tommy inthe movie and he's so good and
he's a dog, I mean,and it was a compelling movie because you
know, Paul's more of a patriarchtype, so you know, the patriarchy
of that story resonated with him andcertainly me. So it's just, you
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know, I mean, it's soiconic and it's so important. And I
really think that this is going tobe big. I do, and you
know, and I'm just going tobe bold here and I think this Dog's
going to be better than the otherone. I'm sure the Brits will be
fine, but this is better.American love story is better. I'm just
saying, yeah, American style.And I know, Trisia with your accent,
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Now, where were you born,I have to ask, but you
know, I'm gonna go pro Usa, Usa always. But where were you
born? All right? Actually Iwas born on the Cape Verde Islands,
which were owned by Portugal. Myparents happened to be there when I was
born. But I was brought upin England and South America and a little
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bit of Poland and everywhere. Butyou were so nancy, Nancy and pretty
and I love it, and youknow, and when we do all the
red carpets with documentary, I'm justgonna be happy to know you. It's
gonna be awesome. It's gonna begreat lunch. So so hey, so
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hey, you guys, So whatis the Tommy for the docks? I
mean, what will come out first? And what are you thinking? And
you know what, what what doyou want think? What's coming first?
Do you know? Michael? Probablyso depending, I'd like to have this
out by December, but you neverknow, you never know. I want
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to. I tend to move veryfast. I've been. I've been getting
all kinds of signs to do thisas well. I know Tommy lived in
Oklahoma for a bit. I've metmore people from Oklahoma the past three weeks
since I decided to do it thanI think ever. I heard of Billie
Joe Shavers song the other day calledOklahoma Wind. Yeah, but Mike love
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scene. It's just all kinds ofsigns I'm liking you, but no,
no, no, the big signis this. Tricia was on Drings with
Dede of course. Of course that'sanother one. That was stuff. You're
busy with stuff and you have beensuch a great ally and friend, just
like all of you have been aboutthe widow situation, which is heartbreaking when
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you're on widow and you lose alove of your life and you know.
Yeah, so anyway, so everybodywas moved. But the show you're on,
Tricia, and you know, Ifelt like Mike wanted to do it
there, but it just wasn't myNow now it is the right time,
well, and I think it's willbe huge. And I rewatched I rewatched
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the hit Job the ESPN thirty forthirty because I was watching those when I
was after I finished my movie.And at the beginning of it, the
guy said, every fight with Tommyit was like a race to the finish
line. And that's the name ofmy film that I just finished. Like
that, Yeah, the real raceto the finish line is everybody knowing the
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truth about Tommy and Tricia and gettingit out there to people. And I
think now is the time to doit culturally and morally ethically. However you
want to say, it's it's waylong overdue, way, you know,
here's the thing, it's the righttime. So even though it was painful,
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Patricia to have to go year afteryear after year, my gosh,
you know, I love you somuch. Tricia. I don't know if
I could have done it. Ithink you're stronger than any woman I know
in the widow world. I meanI feel so weak and pathetic and just
trying to hang on in one year, let alone ten years. So I
just admire what you're doing so much. And the fact that Michael saw this
is the hook. Not to youknow, be glib about it. I
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mean, but this, this isa love story, is a big part
of this. And when you know, when he when he showed me kind
of what you're are going to do, what we will do because for me,
being a fellow widow, I wantto be like, yeah, this
is all about Tricia. Tommy isgoing to get his due as he should,
but I want you to get yourdoe as well as a fellow widow,
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since we don't know another word word. Yeah, because when the two
marry, they become one. SoI really wanted to be that's right.
Un So, Tricia, don't eversay you know, you're not the star,
because you both are because it wasthat kind of relationship. Paul and
I thought the same way, andpeople need that right now. It's like,
wow, look what this woman did. She just kept fighting and fighting
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and fighting for ten years. AndTommy was a fighter to the finish line,
you know. And again to Michael'spoint, his last movie, the
finish Line, he needed to finishthe finish line before he did this.
It's almost confusing, but I thinkwe all get it. And another thing
they in the thirty for thirty docs, they're like, oh, yeah,
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Tommy. They're saying Tommy got aspider bite and it really affected him badly.
And I'm putting my arm like thispurposefully. This is from a and
that sounds your Maine, isn't it. That just makes so much good.
Well, here's here's a guitar pick. I'll put a guitar pick over the
scar. Al Right, move yourarm a little bit, you have to
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move your arm into the Yeah,there you go. Yeah, don't go
to all right, tell me asMichael showing a spider bite. Tommy,
Yeah, you're a movie maker.Two. So what do you think?
Yeah, I think it's great.I love a good love story, especially
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a real one, you know,as supposed to all the la fake ones.
I mean, we all know something, and there's slight of good things
happening in the world right now thatwe really need to see this. This
is gonna be so poignant and sothe time it could not have been better.
So, Trusia, even if youhad to wait ten years, I
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agree with everybody here that it's theright time. It really is. Yeah,
especially everything going on in the world, this is a perfect time for
you to to do this and toshow real love between a man and a
woman, a real man and awoman. And Tommy's had to do with
this too, And Tommy, ifyou don't mind, it doesn't hurt too
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much, you can talk about yourlove story with Lydia and then you have
a fight on your own, yeah, not your own, of your own,
not on your own, because we'rewith you. But yeah, yeah,
we kind of have a love storyand it's a very beautiful one,
and she's been very ill for awhile and almost lost her not too long
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ago, and and it was veryscary and very fright name and she's on
a law on Wroke recovery. Ijust I worry every day about it,
not as much as I was worried, because they found some things and took
care of it. But you know, you and you think you're going to
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lose a love of your life.It's it's terrifying. And I'm setting and
you think, you know, andyou and Lyndy have had a bit of
a battle for a while, soyou know, we're all worried for her,
and we know we want the bestfor her. But you have a
real love story as well, youknow, and I think we all do.
We're all in good Well I'm notin a good relationship anymore other than
with Paul, who is you know, in around in spirit, just just
like you know, just like Tricia. But the rest of you are able
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to have lovely relationships. And I'mso happy for that. And Tricia probably
agrees with me and that she's offfor love now, so she's happy for
other people that have love. Butyeah, I mean, but you you
you have that for your bride,and she's been sick. So you're in
a bat right now. You're ina fight like Tommy Tommy, the dude
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Tommy, and it's Tommy Gunn TommyTommy and you know, and and I
find it really ironical people go afterthe spouse of the person who's sick.
If I do something, it's like, oh, no, you should be
with your wife right now, oryou know, we have our lives too,
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we can multitask. And I'm withher as much as I can,
and to the point where she getssick of it and says, get out
of here. Go through something thatthey would give Tommy or other Tommy a
hard time because it's like you're notnot hon twenty four. I mean what
I mean, it's so hard.Yeah, yeah, I told I told
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Sy just the other day. Isaid, you have no idea of our
relationship, so don't weigh in azip it. So it's like you have
so many details about what happened withTommy. And I remember when Politic we
were in all these hospitals and Iwould watch every Everybody's like, wow,
you could be a nurse, andI'm like, yeah, because you're not
we because you're not paying attention.You know, it's like you with Tommy,
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I mean, dealing with all thedetails because everyone's like, oh,
he's got AIDS or this. Whatexcuse me? Really? Really, you
know, you're you're you know,you can't just say that on the widow
This is a love of my lifeand you're not getting away with it,
and you are about to succeed andshow them off. Yeah, yeah,
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absolutely. I think when we getthis done, Michael, I will email
it to certain locations so that peoplecan see it. For example, there
was one enough said that she wouldn'tgive Tommy any CPR, but she would
give CPR to Magic Johnson. Right, Oh my gosh, out to me.
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So it was disgusting, I canI mean, that was the worst
thing I've heard. He's probably ayear and that's that's the worst thing I've
heard in a year. Yeah.In other words, that you know,
Magic Johnson wasn't in denialism, butTommy was right. So that's just something.
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So it's in our movie, Michael, they'll find out what I did
about that comment, right. Butthere's all kinds of stuff and I totally
agree with you know, Tommy,You Tommy who you have your wife who's
not very well. Yeah, peopledon't understand you know, what you do,
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do you know with your spouse,whether it's in hospital, at home,
or wherever. So yeah, SoTrisha, I'm going to ask you
because my gosh, I mean,you know, and I just feel like
you're you're such a sister to mein this because when Paul I had to
deal with things and the sickness andthen him dying, and then after he
died and you know, with youmuch longer. Yeah, but for you,
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you know, the whole experience,what do you think has been the
most poignant, most difficult part ofthis. I mean, the whole thing
is difficult, of course, thewhole thing. You know, when you're
actually married, nobody bothers you,and then suddenly everything changes when that person
dies, and I think that happensto a lot of people, whether their
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celebrities or not. Suddenly, youknow, the financial side gets involved,
the belongings, the ashes, thegrave, the heads, I mean,
just every aspect. But now disrespect, no disrespect to anyone who is not
married to the celebrity, but itdoes add an extra level yeah complexity,
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, becauseyou're not it's you can't be proud of
It's impossible for privacy and right andthe only thing you want is your privacy
at that moment. It prolongs themorning process. Absolutely, No, it
does. It does. Does youknow what, It's not only just the
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privacy. You know that every timesomebody uses privacy, it kind of reminds
me of you know, Harry andMegan wanting their privacy. Right, they
don't write our book, but checkout our wet look at look at my
legs, look at my shoes.What am I worried? Yeah, I'm
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sorry, Treasure, We're back,we are, but we love you.
I'm thinking South Park right now.I'm sorry, But the south That's hilarious,
you know, right, we loveyou, but not so much some
of the others. Yeah, soyeah, Mike and Michael, you definitely
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need to see that South Park.Is that? That is pretty huge?
That actually remind me of the ESPNthirty for thirty on Tommy is that South
pot pot? But yeah, youknow, it's not just a privacy or
the privacy however you want to sayit. But it's how things get twisted
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out in the media and you're portrayedas the wicked widow, right, and
and that's something that needs to getcleared up and I'm looking forward to doing
that as well. How could anyonelink you're the wicked widow? I mean,
in what world is that the case? Trisia? Seriously, I mean,
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all you're doing fighting for your husband. I'll tell you this what stuck
out is she was telling me thatfor the thirty for thirty doc they weren't
even going to interview her, andthen they, yeah, not at all.
She had to contact them and thenshe did a three hour interview you
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and I think they used not evenfifteen seconds total from a three hour against
Tommy. They had an agenda againstTommy, so you know, and Tricia
is very beautiful, she's articulate.I mean, you know they don't want
her a part of that because theyhad a mission. Well guess what is
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going to totally decimate them as wellas I'm and I helped the UK docum.
So, Tricia, do you havelike good vibes about the UK doctor
Do you think they'll do Absolutely,they will. They will do a fantastic
job. And you know what Michaeland I are going to work on is
going to be more of a privatelove story, you know, whereas the
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UK documentary will be Tommy as Tommylived and breathed his own life as told
by Tommy. So I think betweenthe two documentaries out there, we're going
to hit a lot of a lotof people and it's going to be exciting.
Yeah, that's great, that isgreat. Who's who's doing it in
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the UK? Yeah. Yeah,it's a small company, but with a
lot of heart to them. Andthen it's better. That's better. That's
that's really good, very good.Yeah, I mean definitely. You don't
want tell me story to be pickedup by Disney or Good and then you
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know, and then they bury ita disaster, they'll bury it. So
guys want to see Disney star theredo a lot of documentaries, I mean,
in my opinion, you know,and Michael knows what he's doing,
and I'll help it along annoy anytimeI can, with the with the with
the Widow's crew and with you know, helping to promote and happy to put
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everything together because it was meant tobe, by the way, this is
meant to be. Yah, youdeserve your do And I still am just
so thrilled that Michael thought a lovestory and that's exactly what should be.
And poor Michael's been living with mygrief for the last year, you know,
like he gets it now, hegets wet. Don't think he came
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to my celebration of life for Paul, so he's seen that. So my
guests and I'm helping. You know, the stars aligned and you deserve your
do you know, Tommy is goingto get his do as you should,
Thank goodness. Finally, finally.But the love story is a big deal
too, because you've been at thisfor a decade. A decade most women
(33:35):
would give up, not because theywant to, because they just couldn't handle
it. But you didn't. You'restill here, You're working on it.
You're gonna have your voice. It'sgoing to be a love story. Couldn't
be more excited for you. Yeah. Yeah, I think people need to
see the legal side of everything thatyou know, we've gone through. And
I always say weak because it isjust Tommy and I that have gone through
(33:58):
it. But to go to yeah, to go to the US Supreme Court
twice on the same lawsuit, itsuddenly wasn't a waste of time. There
was a lot of stuff that cameout in that ten year lawsuit, but
you know, just all kinds ofthings that happened getting to the US Supreme
Court, and and there's still stuffhappening. You know, the story will
(34:20):
probably I don't. It doesn't reallyhave an ending yet. Oh, it's
the truth is I have to run, guys, I got to run into
the doctor. But okay, everyyou two, take care, you go
girl, thank you, bye bye, thank you. The truth is the
(34:46):
truth, and that's the most importantthing. And the truth is what really
happened. And I watched that documentaryand ESPN and it looks ESPN his own
Disney exactly. Yeah, they havean agenda. It is a very part
(35:07):
is an agenda which is not truthbased. Yeah, the truth. Look,
the truth is Ambarna's truth can beugly, it can be beautiful,
it can be real, and that'swhat we're looking for, right. This
is powerful, Yes, Tommy gun. Yes, that's crude, let's just
(35:28):
face it. Yeah, And thatof the truth widowing for the truth.
And she's gonna win in the end, and it will be a beacon of
hope for all the widows and forall the love stories and in the boxers
or whatever. I mean. She'sgoing to expose all this with Michael and
me helping a bit. So itis very exciting in a way that is
(35:52):
just compelling, touching, meant tobe, I should Yep, you're the
bomb. Yeah, thanks you are. I'm just here. I'm just here
at your I'm your groupy I'm yourgrouppy. By the way, I wanted
(36:15):
to get to tell everybody tell usabout Tommy's son. Is he's still like
boxing? What's going on because youknow, we were talking about going to
a fight together. What's going onwith him recently or what? No,
nothing recently. Everything's pretty quiet.So yep, that's well. You know,
you're well with you having not onebut two dogs coming out yet.
(36:37):
Great. I'm so proud of you, and I'm so proud of Michael,
and I just think it's so meantto be and you know, and the
stars of the line and it's reallygoing to be lovely. You know,
the world needs love right now.There's so much going on that's not good
and it's so bad that you know, with what happened when Tommy, that
they treated him unfairly and you're goingto uncover this and you know, and
(36:58):
that's more the other dog, butthat the love that you have for him,
makes you work for it for adecade. Let's not forget that a
decade. I'm an agony at oneyear, one year in folks, one
year look at this woman. Iam like, I'm not worthy. You
were so amazing. So anything Ido, you know, I'm gonna you
(37:20):
know, and you want to godown. You want me to kick Don
King and the balls, I willdo it, and ask they know I
will, Yeah, you will,and they'll film it. I'll film it
and then i'll do them down.You can film doing it. I want
to jail, jail, but I'lldo I'm a microphone to get good sound
on its Don King and the Ballsfor you all go to jail. We
(37:47):
might have to get eight or ninetakes just so you know. You might
have to keep doing it so weget that right angle. I have many
questions about why he would say thatany will isn't true and you know what
I'm talking about. It's like,it's not it's beyond that, dick,
it's evil. It is that youare evil. And I've been so angry
(38:12):
that nobody you know, and Idon't mean that say this wrong way,
but I feel like nobody's paid attentionto Tricia, which has kissed me off
beyond belief. So you know,I am not going to finish until she
gets her due. And then Michaelstepped up out of the blue one day.
He wanted to do it before,but he was busy, you know,
he's got stuff going on. Andthen, you know, we had
even worked with another person that didn'treally quite work out. Great people though,
(38:36):
you know. And then Michael addof the blue, as I'm thinking
about Trish and I'm thinking about beingsad about being a widow, and then
I'm talking to another friend who losta spouse, and we're all just miserable,
you know, we're just it's sosad because we've missed the loves of
our lives. And Michael popped up, Sezy, what's going on with this?
I said, we know. Imean I don't think there's going on
(38:58):
anything yet, you know, Andhe said, well, I'm ready to
do it. I said, great, thank God, let's do this.
Let's help this woman, Let's makeit work, Let's make it happen.
So guess what it's happening. Happening, Trisha. You deserve this, I
mean, God bless you, andand you know, there'll be a lot
of widows, and you know,and and Tommy deserves this. Tommy got
(39:21):
screwed over. He deserves it,but you deserve it as well. You
got screwed over as well. Youare not treated fairly like you know,
you say the evil widow, whichis ridiculous, but because you have the
truth, because you know the truthand they didn't want it out. But
guess what it's common? Well,can I ask a question, yeah,
(39:43):
Tresha, was there was there moneyinvolved? Because I'm trying to figure out
why would they would put you inthat position? You mean, why would
they screw Tommy over? Yeah?Why would they say what they said?
Why did they say he had HIV? Yeah? Is there like money involved?
(40:04):
You know? Well he had justsigned a multimillion dollar contract with Don
King to fight Mike Tyson. Okay, so you know there's there's a lot
of people that are boxes out thereor the boxing world that I think the
same way as Tommy thought that Tommywould beat Mike Tyson. Yeah, would
(40:25):
have Yeah, And am not gonnaI am not gonna go And now I
can say this in public, whatI think Why I think they did that?
And it doesn't has to do withmoney to be his ass and they
didn't want that, so so theymade ship yep, yeah, yeah,
(40:46):
and then it's stick because I'm notgoing to say this either because it's politically
incorrect the media when we still becomepolitically okay, okay, do you know
what the reason why there's there's moneyin balls of Don King? But there
(41:06):
are people in the media that reallywant everybody to be like them, if
you know what I mean. Andif this guy who's married to a woman,
he's got a child with, youknow, if he has aids,
well, then jeez, you knowwhat I'm saying. And it's like,
(41:30):
no, that's not how it works. This was a lie and you guys
are perpetuating it. It's such aweird. I mean, you know what
they picked up to take him out? What do you what do you think?
Well, actually, about two monthsago a lady, her name is
Angelique McQueen. She approached me andshe said that her boxer had just signed
(41:55):
on with Don King, and Kinghad told her boxer, this was in
two thousand and eleven, that forhim not to worry about his medicals because
he paid off the doctors. Andso the boxer whose name was Omar Henry,
(42:16):
who mysteriously died in two thousand andthirteen, the same year Tommy died.
Oh my God. Had told Angeliqueabout this conversation that Don King had
actually said that he had paid offa doctor in Vegas to say that Tommy
had a blood disease to get himout of boxing. And apparently the doctor
(42:40):
or whoever had chosen HIV is beingthe disease. And of course, you
know Don King, Don King couldn'ttake that back, right because you know,
supposedly when you have HIV or Athat's it. You know, there's
no cure for it. So sothat just came out to two months ago
(43:05):
and she started to do to dointerviews as well, and you need to
get her onto your podcast because sheis absolutely amazing. She is so apologetic
that she did not say something backin two thousand and eleven. And anyway,
so the story's come out. They'rejust like me is being suppressed,
right, So it's all very veryinteresting. Now. The one thing I
(43:30):
want to say is that people canlie. You know, people can say
you've got HIV, you know you'vegot AIDS. You know, some test
results could be false positive. Youcould test false positive on certain tests,
but sells Human cells don't lie,right. I can show you pictures of
(43:52):
Tommy's cells inside his body that showhe had no HIV and no AIDS.
So that's that's pretty huge, andthat's something that I hope Michael will focus
on. Is the science behind everythingthat's been you know, uncovered, Patricia.
I think that has taken so longis because now it's totally believable because
(44:17):
that's of the last election and theCOVID bs at least half the country,
you know, the United States issplint and a half. But the Red
people are like, this is bullshit. Now we know it. Screw you
for lying and making us give upour business as whatever. So people are
(44:37):
angry so about the lies of this. So I think the reason this has
taken so long, and I'm sosorry it was harder on you than it
took so long, But now peopleare ready to accept that. Yet hallo
fauci liar, you know what,this was not true. This was made
up two push your agenda. Sonow this is completely believable when Tommy and
(45:02):
and we know it's true, butnow everyone else will know it's true.
So I think that's why the timingis what it is. Everybody's going to
go. Absolutely, we've all experiencedthis line in this crap and whatever because
we had to do with the withthe fake pandemic and Port Tommy. You
know, Port Tommy got screwed over. So I think the timings right Tommy.
(45:27):
Indeed, the Nevada State Athletic Commissionthat really screwed him over. Now
that some time has passed, ConnorMcGregor, there's a lot of people vote
Connor McGregor. He won't he willnot fight in the state of Nevada ever
again because of that commission. Sowhat does that tell you? Does I
(45:49):
tell you it's one of those thingswhere you want to ask him, OPI
a guy, what's going on?Because that's I think we all know.
We don't even have to ask guy, did he? Can I ask you
a favor, Can you approach MichaelFrenzies to come on? Sure? I
would love to talk to him.Okay, done he You know, there's
(46:13):
so much underground crap that people takefor like, Okay, this is the
way it is. No, it'snot. And now that we've got that
on that, we'll do that.But for now, with Tricia and Vegas,
and I'm going to Vegas just youguys know, Saturday, and said
we're doing a good fella sit down. Tommy would love to be there.
I wish he'll be there in spirit. Tricia, you're invited when it come
(46:36):
done, you're my guest. Butwe're doing in Vegas. We're doing a
good fella sit down with Sarvino,you know. And you know, Trisa,
you know this. Paul did asculpture called you know it was a
boxer and it's a really beautiful,beautiful sculpture. I have to send you
in a picture of it. Butwhat it is, it's a it's a
boxer and he's like, oh,you know, he just spent and that's
(46:59):
a title up. This sculpture isstill champion. Tommy is still champion,
and so are you. We haveto put that in the documentary. Yeah,
to beautiful and it looks like Tommy. I want to get a black
room and just dark and we'll maybeput an orangeish light above it and then
(47:21):
ye, you know, yeah,get the shadows just right. No,
I cannot wait Patricia to have herday. I'm so angry about this.
She's gonna have her day. AndMichael thank you for joining in. And
you know, and I'm glad we'reall there to get together and make it
all work. Well, I feelcompelled to. And it's all. If
(47:42):
I had some money, you know, if I had money, I'd throw
some money at this. You know, you just be you just be in
this. You just be cheering everythingon. That's I I am. Oh
man, we'll be the cheerleaders.Yes, we need cheerleaders. Yeah,
we need to help about it.Yeah. You know, everybody likes the
(48:05):
underdog, you know, and rightnow, I mean, Tommy should not
be the underdog because he was likethis good looking great boxer and he was
the guy ahead of the crowd,but then they screwed him over. And
then now ten years later, withTricia's help, the underdog is gonna win.
So it's ultimately the Rocky story.It's ultimately the Rocky story. And
(48:30):
TIA's gonna touched on and where SylvesterStallone's and some of these other people.
But it's sort of to me,it seems like they've left Tricia out on
an island. But that's okay.She's strong enough. We're gonna lift her
up, and she she doesn't evenneed lift it up. She's strong on
her own. But you know,it's always gonna have a team. It's
always gonna have a team. Andyou're gonna win, Tricia, And I'm
(48:51):
so happy for you. It's it'sall gonna work. It's all gonna work.
I'm excited when I'm in jail forkicking Don King and the ball,
do you guys, don't build meout. I'll be next to her.
You know, she'll do it.I'll film it. I'll do it,
She'll film it jail. I willgo to jail. Problem. He looks
(49:19):
like a troll doll on Hassett.I know, I know he's available.
Horrible, I don't, I don't. I mean, so do you think
it really will be done? Sotell me about what you're gonna Okay,
so what's the plan? I mean, are we go to you know,
are we going to do this likewith the film, like with the with
(49:40):
the movie festival circuit or maybe someminute for Oscars like documentary Oscar and so
you have to put it in theaters, a few theaters, you know what,
you know what the process is rightto be able to get a Oscar
nomination, which I think this wellthey could well d d you are the
Emmy Award winners, So I'm gonnalet you handle all that stuff. I'm
(50:04):
just gonna make the documentary and Iwant to I got a psychology buddy that
I want to bring in and haveher kind of speak on this. I
think it'll be really good because thepsychological element of it all is like if
I were to say, oh,there's a purple elephant over there, You're
thinking, Oh, there's a purpleelephant over there. You believe it.
(50:25):
So the power of media this andthat is so we're just gonna lay it
all is starting with the love story. We're laying it down. We're adding
humor into it, entertainment, funny, informative to where you watch it and
you go, wow, this isdeplorable and compelling at the same time and
(50:46):
compelling it at the same time.Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Can you
not love Tricia? I mean whatmakes me angries? I think these people,
like she said, it made hersort of like the bad widow?
Are you kidding me? How canyou be a bad widow? One?
Secondly, how could Tricia be abad widow? Are you kidding me?
This is total craft. Time forthe truth to come out, Time for
(51:08):
Tricia to be the heroine that sheis, and for Tommy for the truth
to come out. I love it. It's all gonna work. It's all
meant to be. And I'm sorryit took ten years, but we didn't
know you five six or seven oreight years ago. So now it's time.
Yeah, everything happens, and it'stime it does and for a season.
(51:31):
Yeah, what do you think,so Anne, you think it's gonna
be a big hit. I do. It's gonna be a huge hit.
I'm super excited. You can winan Academy Award for it. I have
high hopes for this because it's socrazy. It's so crazy, it's so
crazy wrong. And then we fixedit and was like, wow, I
am so moved. I think peoplewill be moved. And Michael does good
(51:52):
work. I mean, you youknow. And plus not only that,
Michael is has a the love ofhis life as well. I mean he's
very happy with Howdi's lovely, sohe gets the love story part. So
well, yeah, I do.I don't show it on the show much,
but I am highly empathetic and Ithink of my own wife if that
happened to her, and it justyou know, makes me sad and then
(52:15):
I get angry and h Yeah,so we're gonna we're in a time do
a good job of it. Yeah, and you know we'll touch a lot
of it. It'll touch a lotof people that way. It'll touch a
lot of people that way, becauseyou know, a love story, like
Michael said and Trisha knows, isvery powerful and when you're fighting for a
(52:37):
decade, for the love of yourlife, for the truth. Wow,
I mean, I gotta tell you, I don't even know another story like
that? Do you want to?I can't even think, you know,
when I think about it, Idon't even think don Kane deserves a kick
in the balls. I think likea literal beatdown, a little look,
(53:00):
I can do him go kicking theball. Just have my bail money ready,
that's all? Yeah? Yeah,yeah, Well I'll be right behind
mediographer there because when to when Ikick him in the balls, go to
jail. Trish's laughing or going.I think we're just gonna have to pay
the sound guy more. The soundguy's gonna be there. Better one to
(53:21):
point it right, made a littlegush sound like DD, There'll there'll be
a video of me dragging him acrossthe floor by his hairs team here,
where where your where your pots?Now? Yeah? I just right.
(53:45):
It's one of those things where it'slike you actually said back to get him
out of the boxing match? Areyou evan kidding me? I know,
okay, okay, ain't. Atthe time was so mysterious and so taboo.
I mean, they gotta wait withit. Well not now because after
all this stupid COVID crap. Everybody'slike, oh, well, clearly he
(54:07):
was lying. People are like,well do I think then? They were
scared and I think now, Andthat's why it's good for time to gone
by, even though on it's turnedon Tricia. Everybody's like, god,
now we know. And I livesympathetic to time and I live over by.
There's a Quest Diagnostics near me.In twenty twenty, they saw record
(54:29):
profits dollar and they're the ones doingthese tests. So you have you have
these people putting out tests that aremaking money from making tests. Yeah yeah,
oh well we gotta make the testsbetter. I mean the last one.
(54:49):
But it doesn't say yeah, yeah, it's all about money for big
pharma. You know, they're therichest, they are so so so rich.
Hey you got it, just notmillions, the billion, watch the
watch the fugitive tonight. God,here we go back to Harrison Ford,
(55:10):
Tricia, and he goes back toHarrison Ford with Stephanie. It doesn't matter.
And by the way, that makesno sense at all, zero sense.
Stephanie, that's okay, we loveyou when no, No, it's
actually it's a drug that helps,that helps like by cholesterol and it causes
(55:31):
bleeding. Yeah, nobody knows thatexcept for Stephanie because it's such a minute
point in the movie. Tricia,So what questions you know, because you
know you're out there doing your thingor whatever. I'm just curious what what
what is the most prevalent question ofpeople, what they ask you or their
comments to you. I'm just socurious about all of this. What do
(55:54):
they say to you whatever they're like, when do they ask you more than
anything else? Where? They commenton more than anything else, you know,
they comment on everything that I've done, and they don't comment in a
very nice way some of them.And then really yeah, and then but
(56:15):
those people mainly when they start targeting, for example, this podcast, they'll
comment and it's mainly paid farma trolls. Right, got it, got it?
Got it. Okay, that makessense, right, you know,
and yeah, you know, Andthen they're the most popular question is you
(56:40):
know, well why didn't he gettested again? You know? And my
answer is, well, he didget tested again, but it also was
not an FDA approved test that detectsthe virus, so you know, he
kept on getting tested. But whyare we not talking about the post mortem?
(57:02):
Is my response. Let's talk abouthis final, final diagnosis where he
did not have the virus anywhere inhis system. So, and like if
somebody's listening right now and they go, no, no, no, he
definitely had it because look at thephotos. Well, if you're going by
(57:22):
photo of Tommy, then then showme, show me the post mortem that
you have the shows he has HIVas compared to the post mortem that I
have that was done by professionals andscientists in the fields of virology and microbiology.
(57:42):
So then they then then they're quiet, right yeah, because they don't
know what they're talking about. AndI think Tommy looks good there too.
I mean you know, look,I look, if you're a boxer and
you're beeping up and you're working out, and then if you're not doing it
as much, I mean you're gonnasit out, right, aren't you going
to slim down a bit? Right? And in fact, Tommy did say
(58:04):
that, he said there were twofighters, him and Vander Holyfield, that
when they were not training, theywould lose weight as opposed to other fighters
that would just sit and binge andput on weight. Right. Right.
But the mug shot, I think, Michael, that's what we need to
focus on that. Everybody says,yeah, look he's got a look at
(58:24):
the mug shot. Well, ohyeah, like you can take I'm sorry,
I didn't know Kodak had like,you know, the formula praise,
didn't I didn't realize that. Thankyou very much, Kodak. Right,
yeah, I mean the horrific stuff. We'll go through the horrific stuff of
what he went through in jail forthose thirty days for him to look like
(58:45):
that, you know, people needto know that can make anybody look like
they've got AIDS. Well, Imean, you know, when I go
to jail, when I kicked DonKing and the balls, I'm gonna look
like a yeah AIDS when I getout. Just saying, so everybody be
ready, Dad, he's got asso bad. But I'm in Latricia I'm
there for you. I'm writing kickdunking in the balls, go to jail
(59:06):
for you. I will do it. So, but we think we need
to do a drink picture. Ifyou do have a drink. I've got
my Usa Usa cup because I thinkTommy Morrison and Tricia Morrison are great Americans.
So let's do that. So,oh Tommy, oh god. Now
we have Michael to do the picture. Michael, take like twenty I swear
(59:29):
to please. I'm begging you.We need a good picture. Don't look.
Get a picture of me with myeyes closed, and do a good
one, and do a bunch ofthem. Please. All right, everyone's
smiling now ready? Three? Many? Two? One? All that's one?
Hang on, so bad. I'msorry, Tricia when Michael is so
horrible. But go ahead. Iknow, I know he's a good filmmaker.
(59:51):
There, I promise, there wego. Oh my god, Ever,
somebody else's fifty and and it takesthree. I don't know how they
do it. Okay, here wego. All right, let me see.
(01:00:13):
I'm oh my god, this isso bad. Sorry doing the docs
in the movies. This is usuallyTommy, but he had to see a
sweetheart. Okay, guys, three, Tricia, let's wish luck with this
wonderful and give lots of love forthis wonderful doc. You're all going to
(01:00:34):
be on the red carpet. We'regonna make it all work. It's gonna
be fabulous. You know. Triciais the boss, she's the one doing
this, and Michael is like,you know, making it work. And
I'm just there to help anyway Ican. So anyway you will all be
invited to the red You brought ittogether. Thanks for bringing it together.
An executive producing it, you know, happy to it. You know,
my heart goes out to Tricia,and of course Michael's like my brother from
(01:00:58):
another mother. So you know,that's how it works. That's what we
do. We help each other out, right, Trisha, Yeah, we
do, We really do. It'sall gonna work. We'll all be on
the red carpet. And when I'min jail, please bail me out at
some point. And when I looklike I have aids in thirty days,
just tell everybody I look good forus. Don't let them epstein me.
(01:01:24):
Yeah, don't let them do that. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Tuck to Tommy, all right,tom Story, thanks, thank you,
very much. It's gonna be great. Thank you, all right.
(01:01:45):
I love you all. Love you.
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