NBA Draft Recap & Boston Blows it Up

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Drive and Dish podcast. Welcome to to
start it off, it's just let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
There is literally no sleep in the NBA. We are
still fresh off a finals victory really for oka see,
and we jumped right into the trade or trade I
should say draft and trades and more to come. So like, yeah, man,

(00:35):
I was joking with Chase here in the building, Kevin,
We were like, how are we already at the draft?
And this was like Tuesday of last week. How are
we already hear the you know, the the finals literally
just ended. But you know, obviously from a podcasting standpoint,
we appreciated the content never sleeps. So with that, we
will obviously talk a little draft recap. Some players or

(00:59):
team tames were like what the hell are you doing?
Some we really liked, others were meme worthy moments in
a way. So we will talk about all of those.
But first we also want to talk about the Celtics
blowing it up, because nothing makes us happier than the
Celtics blowing it up. And it's all because they're trying
to save money and get under that second umbrella umbrella.

(01:22):
It's not it's not umbrella, it's umbrella apron. It's I
mean technically, yeah, I was like, umbrellas doesn't sound right
apron so uh sorry. You know, Florida, we use umbrellas
more than we use it apron.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
So is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Probably? You know how many times you said open an
umbrella on the beach, like.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Even think about that. Yeah, your umbrella definitely, especially the summertime,
like right now during rainy season, gets plenty of plenty
of use.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
But see the counter to that is like do Floridians
actually use umbrellas or you just put on a hoodie
or something and just walk through the anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I mean that's the thing. It's like, you guess is
the rain it'll last for two minutes that I'm not
bringing the umbrella or my last for thirty It is,
though you balance its depending on the temp. It's like, yeah,
I just take the lf whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Wheels and wheels and doors debate. Are there more umbrellas?
Are there more aprons in the world?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Man, you think about it, I think it's got to
be a pool has like forty two umbrella off the rip.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
You get mad cheap ones too, like you buy in
the subways and stuff too, like if you need them
in a pinch, they have all those like, I think
it's upbroad. We'll leave this up to the listeners. We'll
ask the people.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
But I'm very convinced you like, I don't know, I
gotta choose my words carefully here. Oh no, it's just
like it's like, what do you think you've You're you're
Gordon Ramsey. What are you wearing an apron for? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't want to get sauce all over me, bro.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Don't mix the sauce like a crazy person.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Listen, man, sometimes it's splatters. You put that on high heat, but.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Put a lid on it, dude, I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Know, dude, see leave me alone?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
All right? So I think we I think we can
close that debate.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Before before we go back to the Celtic because we
are going to talk per zingis And as much as
I want to like, I mean them blowing it up
is obviously like right, but I also like kind of
like these trades for them, so it's like the prosper
like a game, and you can't really don't call them
that much. I do want to ask you if you
weren't here last week and shouts to our guy Andy
Jordan by the way, h pinch hitting in a jam
packed episode. We had a bunch going on because I mean, yeah,

(03:27):
you talk about the trades, it's like they don't even
wait for the finals to end anymore. Like we had
the Desmond Bain trade a week basically that happened. We
dropped the episode you and I did after Game four
of the Finals, and the Desmond Bain trade happened like
a day later. And then Andy and I like because
I was when we did the Andy episode, like we
knew we were gonna be through Game seven in the finals.

(03:48):
Durant had just happened. But that was the thing, Like
Kevin Durant trade happened the day of Game seven in
the NBA Finals, and everybody spent pregame talking about Katie
rightfully going to Houston because that is a seismic move.
But yeah, there's I do kind of appreciate how there's
just like you know, you would think maybe the finals
would be like a holy space where everybody like beholds

(04:08):
off for a little bit. It's like, yeah, man, we
got Game seven. These only happened, you know, every so often.
This is now the fourth in the past twenty years
in the NBA Finals, which is actually more than you
would think, honestly, but still like, no, there's there's no
respect for that at all. I do want to ask
you though, because you know, obviously we went in depth

(04:29):
heavily about Games five through seven last week in the
end of the series, and again, you know, huge congrats
to the Thunder, But you know, what was your I
guess you know, would you make the series overall? Like,
what were your final impressions on these last games?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, obviously super excited for okay see to get the uh,
you know, get it done. The injury overall was super sad.
I know you texted me and I completely ignored the
text because that's that's how I am sometimes, But I'm
with you, I I I was, I'm so upset for

(05:01):
Haliburton to have that happen. I saw that there was
some people saying that they were looking into like AI
to see what's with all the injuries that have happened
this year, because it does feel like, at least from
like an achilles or leg injury standpoint, we've had a
few more significant ones than normal this year. Yeah, and

(05:22):
obviously that one comes at the worst possible time, Like
I couldn't imagine the biggest game that you've been working towards,
really your whole life, to have that happen where it
felt like you guys had the momentum for the most part,
Like it did feel that way a little bit in
that game. So like that's a bummer, but pretty much

(05:42):
like you knew the writing was on the wall when
he went down with that injury, you were like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, it was a miracle. Honestly, in my opinion that
they were up one at half, Like that was the
credit to how hard those guys were fighting and how
hard they bought the whole series that they had a
lead at halftime, Like when Albert went down, that game
was over. There was just no chance, like they it
all ready was taking such a superhuman effort by everybody
on that Pacers team to get them to seven and
get them to that point. Yeah, you're right, though, I

(06:07):
mean the fact that it's the fact that he hit
his first two shots and that he was in rhythm,
it's like they still might have lost that game. That's
the thing is, Like I don't think Halliburton playing would
have automatically meant that Indy was going to win that game.
But I know that there would have been a chance,
and I don't like what IF's, Like, yeah, I mean
that that's like we're a weakish week and a half

(06:29):
an now removed from that game. And that's just basically
my takeaway is that I'm just I'm still sad about it,
Like I it's that will go down to me as
easily the biggest what if now since we've started this podcast,
Like that's just it's we got robbed. I think as
fans across the board, is just that we didn't get
to see a series that was that epic and that

(06:50):
well balanced and that saw so many great performances from
both sides. Like I think it's it just it went
out in a whimper, Like it's disappointing that it ended
like that, And look, injuries are a part of the game,
Like I don't think you really you know, that shouldn't
take anything away from Okac and the season they had,
but that's just yeah, it's it's really disappointing that that's
how it ended. Like And for the record, pre before

(07:12):
the Halle injury, I think the biggest what if for
me on this podcast was the KD step on the
line Katie step on the line. They win that Game seven,
they beat Milwaukee. You can't tell me they don't win
the finals then that year, especially knowing that Milwaukee went
on to win the finals. I mean, yeah, that Brooklyn team.
Katie then has a ring outside of Golden State. Hardin's
got a ring. Kyrie maybe stills in Brooklyn, like the

(07:35):
Nets obviously as a franchise of a ring. So that
was pre the Halle injury, that was the biggest what
iff for sure?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well and yeah, so I mean, like like you kind
of alluded to, I think Halle not getting injured didn't
guarantee the Pacers would win. It would have kept it close,
But I think Hallie getting injured guaranteed that thunder were
going to Like that's kind of how that went, which
is fine, you know, obviously super bummed. Uh you know,
TJ McConnell balled out and deserves all the credit and

(08:07):
he definitely won't get as much credit now because they
didn't win the whole thing essentially.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
See, I highly disagree there. I think this Pacers team
is going to get a ton of credit for all time.
I think they absolutely went out on their shield.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
But like, but like I literally saw people talking about
how TJ should win finals MVP if they win the
whole thing because of how amazing he was playing and
how much of a you know, bench role player system
he was doing.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
He was phenomenal. That bench won them games at points
where their starters just weren't good. It was TJ and
it was Matherarin. Like those two guys were so crucial,
and and Obi topp into the entire run. I know,
Obi disaster class in game seven, but like, yeah, TJ
and Mathern it was their coming out parties for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, and so so like you know, I just at
the end of the day, right, like, yes, people will
say there was an injury there, and I know a
lot of people were trying to say, well, it's an
asterisk win. It's like, no, that that's how it goes
man like that it does go that way.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
But it's not an asterisk win. That's stupid.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
No. And uh. And then obviously from the from the
thunderside of the Ajam Williams, it was a it felt
like a coming out party for him as well a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
And he needed it, man, I mean, Jalen Williams like
he was one of those guys early on in some
of these series where he was inconsistent up and down,
and he was really really good when they needed him
to be right. That definitely for a national party for sure.
And then yeah, SGA obviously completing one of the better
individual seasons you're ever going to see.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah. Yeah, and uh, the move I was doing, I
joked about it before I left the Blue dort Unders,
I stopped doing that. I essentially was pairing a parlay
of TJ McConnell steals over which was only ever half
a steal, so like, oh, yeah, that's going to happen. Yeah,
And then I was doing that paired with threes rebounds

(09:54):
and assists over as combined number for SGA it was
usually around like forty something, so it was always close,
like it was a hit or miss every other game
pretty much for him. And I'm pretty sure he got
it on the last one if I'm not mistaken. So yeah,
that's kind of like endgame thoughts or end of season thoughts.

(10:14):
Super pumped for OKC. I still wonder if the Pacers
did win, if there would have been a little more
of a KDI decision to be made with it.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Was already made before the end, I don't think he but.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Like that's what I was. I was surprised it happened.
I know you guys already talked about it, but I
was like, I'm surprised there wasn't. Let's wait and see
how the finals go, and if OKC doesn't win, let's
go get KD and just win the whole thing like
next year, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah. I mean, like I said, I would have been
a fan of it. I do, like you know where
I get where. I got to relitigate the whole episode.
But I Katie and Houston, I'm really looking forward to.
I think that's a great get. All right, So let's
let's move into these two the pair of Boston trades.
So you got the three way deal. First, Christapsperzingis is
going to the Hawks along with the second round pick.

(11:01):
The Nets get Terence Mann and Drake Powell, who has
taken number twenty two overall this year, and the Celtics
get George Nyang in his second round pick, and then
Drew Holliday. The Celtics get Anthony Simons in two first
or two future second round picks, and of course, the
Blazers get Drew Holliday the Blazers probably canna decide what

(11:25):
they want to do with Drew Holliday. We'll see if
Drew Holliday even suits up there again, which would be
hilarious considering that be the second time that happened to
Drew Holiday. Of course, he had shipped to Portland before
he got rerouted to Boston the last go around. But
thirty five years old now for Drew sol Cep, he
doesn't want to contend somewhere.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, and yeah, and we'll see where he ends up.
I know there's some Chris Paul rumors going around as
well where he's kind of wanting to be closer to home.
I was reading those as we were prepping for this
show a little bit, so I wonder if something ends
up having him with him too, or if he comes
back or you know, decides to retire or whatever. So
some point guard news I guess in general, to keep

(12:02):
an eye on in the in the next coming weeks
or a few coming weeks here. But obviously both moves,
like we kind of said earlier, were to get themselves
under that second apron. You know, they do have the
guys they brought in are expiring contracts, so they can
be dealt you know now or at the deadline, or

(12:24):
you know, depending on what they want to do to
kind of I guess continue the consolidation to stay salary
in the green light for salary, I guess yeah. I mean,
you know, the Drew holiday stuff. We kind of saw
him decline this year, at least for Boston, so I

(12:47):
guess it wasn't necessarily too much of a surprise that
that happened. I think the bigger conversation is because the conversation,
the rumors were out that Derek White and Damn Brown
were also on the board, and then they obviously didn't
do that. And I think it almost goes back to like,
of course, you're always going to listen to offers, but

(13:10):
they might not necessarily be very high on getting rid
of them. And that's kind of the vibe I got
out of it. It's like, I don't I don't know
how serious that was from a Celtics standpoint.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, Look, the Celtics are really expensive, and that's fine
when you're winning titles the way they were two years ago.
The unfortunate reality is as soon as Jason Tatum towards Achilles,
you weren't going to win a title next year, Like
the team is just not that equipped and so that point,
they're really really expensive. Like the holiday trade alone gave
them forty million dollars in tax savings. And oh, by

(13:41):
the way, you got Anthony Simons, who I think is
a good player and he fits well with them. Like
that's why I'm like, I can't really like laugh at
most too much because this is a really good fit
for them. He's still twenty he's twenty six years old.
He put up like I think he can come in
and give them a bucket, which is what they need
right now. He shot thirty eight percent from behind the arc,
which is something that you know, we know the Celtics

(14:01):
if nothing else, they love bombing away and that's worked
well for them. So no, I think that's And again,
Drew Holliday is owed over one hundred million dollars in
the next three seasons for somebody, like you said, kind
of started to show signs of declining here a little bit,
Like Drew Holliday is still great, and I mean even
from beyond just like an X's and O's perspective, like

(14:22):
a great guy to have in the locker room, like
one of the ultimate vets, like everybody has loved playing
with Drew Holliday, but you know, when again, you're already
punting next season, you don't want to just stay above
that line like you do. Want to find ways to
go about it now. And I think that this is
a way in Holiday, who's older, so you may not
fit the timeline a little bit when you're trying to

(14:43):
run this back again. And then for Perzingis, it's just
like again it's the injury thing. It's like Perzinis was
great for Boston when he was healthy and obviously was
a huge part of them winning the title, you know,
really added a lot of versatility to that lineup being
for them being able to play inside out. If anything,
I'm surprised at points, and part of that could be

(15:04):
due to the injury as well, but I thought they
could have like ran it through him more a little bit.
You know. For Atlanta. Again, the risk here is the injury.
For Atlanta, like Prizinkis is objectively a good player when
he's healthy, and I think for them, like they're going
to lose Clint Cappella. You know, he kind of gives
you that He's still very rare in the sense, right
like KP is a true dominant rim protector, but he

(15:26):
can space the floor and you don't get mad at
him spacing the floor, like he can knock those shots down.
So but again, do a lot of money. He's thirty
million dollars next season. Granted it's expiring, but still, and.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I would say too with the Hawks, you know, they
went and drafted a second, bigger player, so like it
does change the options essentially. I saw a lot of
people saying facelift for Atlanta, like you were saying with
Clint Compel potentially leaving, like it does change it up.

(16:00):
And with Trey Young being definitely a very underrated player
right now, at least in the NBA, it feels like
he'll have a lot of options to work with down
there now.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah. No, that's the funny thing is because like we've
always talked about, like Atlanta Chicago being those teams where
they kind of just like don't have a direction like Atlanta,
and so they've been in that middle where you know,
it feels like they've almostly been okay being in the middle,
Like the Hawks made that conference finals run a few
years ago and haven't really been close since. And we'll

(16:34):
talk more about this again here after the break with
the draft. But I know, I really, really, actually like
what Atlanta's doing. I mean, a great trade with New Orleans.
We'll get the roast New Orleans here a little bit
later to spoiler alert that's coming up.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Every great trade, there's a bad side of the trade.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
You're right, But I mean, dude, I really like Atlanta's
gonna stop trading in New Orleans because like this is
twice now, like they got killed on this deal with
the draft pick where now they've got New Orleans first
next year in a year in New Orleans might stink.
And oh, by the way, they got Dyson Daniels last year,
who was phenomenal for them. He's like one of the
breakout players of the season. So yeah, maybe I don't know,

(17:10):
man Atlanta or New Orleans not picking the phone up
put Atlanta calls.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, but I would listen and touched the phone when
you see in Atlanta's zip code on that thing.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Trey is a weird player to value because I think
again it's tough because like he's so brilliant offensively at times,
but he clearly is limited defensively. And I do think
there's kind of an argument that you know, how far
can you get with Trey? Like what's your ceiling with
this guy as your number one player? But I really
like this roster that Atlanta is building around Trey, and

(17:40):
I think it kind of allows him to maximize what
he's good at. And so I'm interested. I'm interested to
see it work. It feels like they have And look,
that's part of the Halliburton injury too, is like the
Eastern Conference is gonna be wide open next year. It's
gonna be more wide open than it's arguably ever been.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Who would you who would you put the best odds
in the top three odds in the East for next year?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I think the Knicks right now. I know they don't
have a coach, but I think you run that roster
back and everybody's healthy. I think so Like I hate,
I think from a regular season perspective, I still think
Cleveland is there. I am not. I am not giving
Cleveland any benefit of the doubt. Quite the opposite. I
almost don't want to put them top three because I'm

(18:25):
so low on them after how much they disappointed me
this year, like they really got me to buy back
and then let me down again. I will never give
them a benefit of it out ever again ever, so
I would probably, but I think from a regular season perspective,
I still think Cleveland is probably there, dude, Honestly, like
you could sell me on and I know you're going
to groan, but like it might be Orlando. I like Atlanta.

(18:48):
Orlando with Baine, I think is a lot better. It's
just like it's tough because Milwaukee doesn't have Dame and
we'll see what happens with you, honest but like there's
a big I mean Milwaukee was kind of anyway. Now
you're missing Dame for the entire season. Boston is still
gonna be competitive? Do I think their top three competitive
if they blow it up a little bit and they
don't uptate them and probably not, you know, kind of

(19:09):
the same deal with Indy. It's like I expect Indy
they're not gonna fall for Cliff, but you're missing Halliburton
for the entire season. I think it's gonna knock them down.
I mean, like I don't want to be a homer
and put the Sixers there, Like you could talk me
into the sixers if everything goes right, but like that's
a lot of IFFs right now, Like that is a
lot of IFFs right now.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I think there's one team and if you said them,
I'm sorry, but I don't think you said that you
might be sleeping on one team. Who's that Pistons.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh yeah, No, I didn't say the Pistons. And you
know what, You're right, I probably am sleeping there a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Again, we'll see if they do it after what they
did last year. They need to prove that they're not.
Like but I like, I like Kate a lot. There's
a lot of consistency with that roster all coming back,
So yeah, you know that that might be fair. The
Piston should probably be right there in that discussion as well.
But that's kind of my point is it's like, like, right,

(20:01):
like you look at any of those teams, and how
many of them do you think are ready to like
win the NBA Finals right now?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Right right exactly? And and really a lot of them
still have a huge question mark, you know, in like
the Bucks and what you're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Honestly, most confidence in the Knicks and they don't even
have a coach right now.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, most confident in the Knicks and and the Knicks,
I feel like you look at this now and you're like, dang,
we probably should get Tibbs, Like probably them, Well, it.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Depends who you hire, Like that's what it all comes
down to. It just depends if they hired Taylor Jenkins man.
If they're not going to hire Mike Malone, hire Taylor Jakins.
They had an interview with him.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
If I'm alone, I'm looking at this right now and
be like, I need to get on the I need
to coach the Nicks right now.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Can I get the quickest flight to LaGuardia, which, by
the way, LaGuardia apparently now and you I don't even
think you know about this, but LaGuardia being the nicer
in New York airport out of JFK. That's a mild
plot twist, bro, because it was not that way for
a long time.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
That news didn't make it down here. We were all
worked up because some report came out and said Jacksonville
is the most boring city in the US and people
were like so livid, and it's like, Bro, we have
a beach, so we're quite literally better than anything in
any of the Dakota's. Like, I don't even care what
you say.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
The Dakotas have cities or where you are you coounting Bismarck,
You got Bismarck, you got Pierre, you got Rapid City.
But like I'm not counting them as the same, right,
Like I'm not counting them as a metro area like Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
But that's my point is like, dude, we have like
and maybe you should.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Have taken the shot. You should have taken the AFC
Stouth shot and been like I'm not hearing anything from
anybody in Indianapolis telling me that Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
But that's my point, like you know what I mean,
like Cleveland, like come on, you know, like dude.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Justin I agree Jackson's Beach, Like you don't got to
tell me, like.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Like the top fifty. At least.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
This is the opinion of me. Bees. You still live there,
you still work there, So this is fully the opinion
of me. It's just all downtown, Like Jacksonville gets dunk
go on because of downtown. Like downtown we mentioned the
Czilion times on the podcast. Downtown Jacksonville should be amazing.
It's right on the Saint John's River. It has all
the potential to have like a San Antonio esque river
walk or honestly even in okac I hear Oka see.

(22:19):
I've never been there, but it has a beautiful river walk.
I've heard it's a great time. The point is Jacksonville
should have that and decided to like build a prison
there instead. And so like they're working on it, and
there are things that I really like about downtown, like
Indo Chine was there. Chanlin's book Mine, which is an
absolute gem, is there, But like it's all spread out,

(22:39):
like it went to the beach, you went to the
town center, because it's just is disappointing.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, two things, and then I'm about to fire off
an insanely hot take.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Okay, hell love it.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Put it this way. Downtown's going under the construction right
Like they're they're going to move the Jags for two years.
The Port of Georgia game has to move because they're
buil in the new stadium. I've seen the updates. They've
already started doing. It looks dope. The four Seasons is
almost done, Like that whole riverwalk area is starting to
pop up, Like it's to look like Tampa's downtown a

(23:12):
little bit, Like it's getting there, Like I see the vision.
I see shod Cohn licking his lips, seeing the dollar
signs slowly starting to formulate, like he's there. But holy
hell man, we were going down there for Avril Levine
on Monday. It was a simple plan and Abril Levine's tour,
and it took us forty five minutes once we got

(23:35):
to the bridge to get that parked. Oh what other
side because I was coming from the beach. So I'm
on Boulevard going over the Green Giant. For anybody that
runs the it took thirty minutes. And they've they've cut
it so that you can go straight off the bridge
right behind Daily's plays like it is right there, and

(23:57):
it took thirty minutes because of the construction. Like it's
it's bad right now. That being said, cities that do
not this is just a quick Google search, right US.
Cities that do not have a beach, every one everyone.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I love what Chicago says they have a beach. That
always cracks me up, Like a concrete slab on the
lake that's not a beach. I get why that's nice,
and you want to look at the water.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I'm not hating on it, but like, don't tell me
that's a beach, right, So so just to name a
few that that literally Google like fired off right off
the rip Vegas, Phoenix, Denver, Salt Lake City, Atlanta just
sort of the five it brought up right, I'm probably
only putting Vegas over Jacksonville at that point.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
What were the other ones?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Phoenix, uh, Denver, Salt Lake and Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
So like, I haven't been my thing is I've only
spent any amount of time in Denver, Y. I actually
don't get me wrong, but I heard bad things about
Denver when I went, honestly, and then I had to
opposite experience. I feel like I had a better time
in Denver than I expected.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I had a good time, I had more fun and Boulder,
which is why I'm like the city kind of whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah yeah, well like that was me I went. When
I went, I went to Boulder and we did Rocky
Mountain National, like like I go to Colorado for the nature.
But I think it's like I get that being more
appealing than Denver. But I feel like people told me
like Denver was horrible, and then I was I spent
like a full day in Denver, and I was like
I didn't get that at all.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Man, we uh Nicole and I did do like a
day in the city. I don't remember what we did,
which I guess tells you a lot about it. Like
I didn't hate it, but I do remember like being there.
We had a good dinner, but like, I don't really
remember much. I do remember basketball was on because we
were talking about going to a Nuggets game and didn't go.

(25:50):
But either way, like, yeah, I mean, I bet people
will feel some kind of way about me saying that
about Atlanta, but like I've been to Atlanta twice and
it's like, yeah, no, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
The traffic is terrible. I haven't been really Atlanta. Besides that,
I've driven through Atlanta and I've seen the traf like
and I haven't even really been there at peak traffic
like that, but it's like if it did feel very
la at times where it's like giant highways they all
somehow all up cars on them, like it's kind of wild.
But I I truly I haven't spent any time in
Atlanta to have an opinion on it, so yeah, yeah,

(26:22):
along with I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm trying
to like think of other We don't need to list
all the cities we've been to, but I'm trying to
like think of like boring cities that I've been to
that were more boring than Jacksonville. But that's that's gonna
go down a long or different route. We should pivot
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Speaker 1 (27:04):
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Speaker 2 (27:08):
So the draft happened. It's it's I always hate I know,
we're a basketball podcast, so it's fun to talk about
basketball stuff. The draft. Right after the draft, winners and
losers talk is always my least favorite because I'm very
much alike and let's just go see it at summer League,
which we did get invited to. By the way, I

(27:29):
wanted to bring that up to you. We did get
an email from somebody who owns a podcasting studio that
will be setting up at Summer League in Vegas. They
wanted us to come out. It would only cost us
to podcast from their four thousand dollars per day. Oh okay,
that's why I didn't get to you. I went, you know,
Oh right, I.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Mean, thank you very much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
The chat GPT auto email that they used was very
compliment Henry.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
But but but yeah, no, we gotta stop. We gotta
talk about I have such a balance and that that's
a whole other podcast itself. I have such a love
hate with chat GPT because I do think it's useful,
but I'm also very concerned that it's cooking everyone's critical thought.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yes, but episode idea, you and I do like a
mail bag questions episode where we field questions. We grab
them from everywhere, we get people to submit questions and
about the NBA. Maybe it's like the upcoming season. We
ask it, we asked chat GPT, it give its answer,
and that we talk about it, we agree or disagree

(28:39):
with what it said. I hate that so much of
the past.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh god, all right, we're out. Oh my god. I
did love that theme song they made for us. Back
in the day. Yeah, when we have to bust that
out once in a while. I mean, look at the
top of the draft, not really any two big surprises
like Cooper Flag going number one to.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Dallas, so like reignited that this was rigged from the start.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Talk, Well, somebody straight up yelled it at the draft.
I don't know if you heard that, Like they straight
up yelled that it was rigged for Dallas. So you know,
no comment, but I think I think if you know,
there's something to be said in my silence there. Cooper
Flag going to number one though, to Dallas obviously huge
for them, resets the franchise after you traded Luka Doncic
him Kyrie Anthony Davis, Like that's certainly a good fit

(29:32):
for him now. Not a lot of pressure for him
to be the number one, like franchise changing superstar that
often goes on a lot of these number one picks,
Like it's a little more unique in that situation. But yeah,
kid's gonna be stunt. Like there's a reason that he's
the one of the more like he's arguably the thing
with Cooper Flag because a lot of these number one

(29:52):
picks recently have obviously been really hyped up. You know,
obviously I think the peak of it was Wenby, but
you know, even going back to a guy that we
talked about a little earlier on the podcast, Kate Cunningham,
like was a pretty hyped up number one pick, Cooper
Flag is just very well rounded. Like I think that's
the biggest thing with Cooper Flags, Like he just kind
of does everything well, Like he rebounds, he you know,
he gets his teammates involved. He obviously can score at
all three levels. That I think with him being ready

(30:15):
to go right now is probably the biggest thing. And
so yeah, I mean it is. It's the it's the
ultimate bailout for Dallas. Like there's no way around it.
It's it's the only thing that maybe could appried that
window back open because it was pretty firmly close when
Kyrie got will you see.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
The interview where he's like fortune favors the bold? What
the hell kind of comment is that? What do you
mean fortune favors the bold? Unless you knew that was
happening right off the rip, Like I know it goes
back to the whole conspiracy thing. We don't have to
do that, but like no, I mean no, it's easy
comment like it.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Was, look, everyone should be looking at the lottery a
little sideways right now after Dallas.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Won, Like it was kind of like, did you also
think by trading Luca it was gonna make Kyrie get
injured so that you'd get more Like what is that
related to?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Right? Like, go on, I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's so bad.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Dylan Harper going number two to San Antonio. And so
San Antonio is a team that obviously had kind of
flirted with moving this a little bit and was in
the Kevin Durant sweepstakes as well. So I think you
know you brought up a little before we started the show, right,
Like Dylan Harper, they have a lot of cards right now,
and so that is going to be the thing. But
I still think Dylan Harper is the right pick here,

(31:28):
Like you don't overthink this. You take the best player available,
and san Antonio needs that, like you. Chun Times comes
in right away with an opportunity to contribute alongside Wemby
and alongside d Aaron Fox as they try to get
to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Now and I and as we were talking about, I
know we didn't say it on the mic, so so
we can rehash it here, is like, because you don't
have any Wemby and Fox games to go like off
of essentially for what you need going forward, you didn't
really know what you would be looking for in that
aspect the draft. So yes, in that case, go get

(32:02):
the best talent. You'll have the Castle dieron Fox Harper
situation You'll have to figure out. And I would almost
say I wonder if there was a situation where if
you got that back half of the year with Wemby
and Fox and you go, wow, there was a glaring
need for a forward or whatever, if the Spurs wouldn't

(32:26):
have been more willing to look to trade that second
pick to somebody to get more you know whatever, and
then go get a guy that they know would fit
specifically with what Wemby and Fox need. You don't have that,
So in that case, go get the best talent. Figure
it out next year. It's not like we're expecting you
guys to go win the whole thing next year. I

(32:47):
You're to feel it out, yere with you with those three,
and then if it turns out that Castle can go,
then then use the fact that he was Rookie of
the Year and get get value out of him, essentially,
go get what you need in terms of positions.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, plenty of optionality. And I mean, look the Spurs also,
you want to talk about, you know, maybe Harper is
not the best fit in the world. Somebody that is
a great fit was when they got Carter Brian at fourteen. Yeah,
you know, exactly the kind of the three and D
wing that you need to play next to Wemby and
a team that is a little you know, spatially challenged
if you will at times. He's a guy that can
knock down a shot, and so I think that'll fit

(33:23):
as well, you know, just adds to that that stable
young talent. I think san Antonio a really good draft.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, I agree with you. I'm cool with it.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Now we just want to see the guys get on
the court and be healthy and kind of go forward essentially.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah. I mean, I'll just like kind of rattle through
because I'm not going to go through every pick here,
but I'm just picks that I liked overall. Yeah, I
did like VJ. I think VJ is a good pick
for us. Again kind of the Sixers, not overthinking it.
He's a guy that can play shooting guard. He's good defensively.
I like that he's had obviously some some bigger stage

(33:58):
experience to beyond college playing for the Bahamas national team.
They got a lot of depth, Like, look, I wanted
a wing for sure, but you have a lot of
guard depth now with Maxie and with Jared McCain and
now with VJ coming back. I think he's got a
great work ethic and look, I mean Ace Bailey kind
of made it easy, like that was the thing is
it was like, and we'll talk about Acon a little

(34:18):
bit because that was clearly the big story leading up
to the draft as he's now headed to Utah. But yeah,
I think the Sixers, like I would have been cool
if they took Annipel here too, and he obviously ended
up going to pick later at four. But I think
VJ was pretty like he was pretty consensus number three
on the board. And so again I think it's a
not overthinking things.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I saw a comparison. Some we're saying he's like Gary
Harris just faster, So like I can get behind that.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I would hope he's a little
more upside at number three overall. But I hear you.
I mean other picks that I just liked. I mean, look,
like Ace Bailey, we'll come back to it, because it's
a bit of an up and and down. But I
do like that pick a lot for Utah, Like you, sure,
taking the swing is what they should be doing there

(35:07):
at five and when.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
They sit on paper, But then you have the person
and the human aspect of it all who clearly doesn't
want to be there. Though I did see Yeah, well camp.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Oh congrats Ace. You played yourself like I don't know
what tell you. You tried to gain yourself into a
into an East coast destination. You basically wrote Philly out,
so you tried to get to Brooklyn. You tried to
get to Charlotte potentially Charlotte didn't pick you, or you
tried to get to Washington, who, by the way, Washington.
I like Trey Johnson's pick there too. Actually I thought
that was a good one for them. But no, I
mean there is a little bit of just like you

(35:42):
just got to laugh at like a Speley trying to
gain himself into an East coast situation and then ending
up in Utah like that is probably the funniest scenario.
And I mean, look, I blame his advisors there too,
like a S. Bailey's a kid, he's eighteen years old, right, Yeah,
Like I blame his camp around him there too, But
it was more of and like, look, I'm a Rutgers

(36:03):
guy now, I just graduated from there, Like it takes
me to I don't you know again, I don't want
to be rooting against the kid he was, you know
again playing for Rutgers last year. But I don't know, man,
I don't really. He just handled this really poorly. There's
no way around it. It just feels like every move
that he did pre draft just flew in the face
of conventional wisdom.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
And it'll be interesting to see how he fits with
Collins Kesseler and marketing too, Like it'll be interesting to
see how that all meshes when we're in the season.
But again, it's a team that is not necessarily in
a win now mode like figure it out, let's go.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah. I mean, look, there are questions about he's gonna
get buckets. There's no doubt about it. Like he is
potentially the most talented scorer in the entire draft. There
are concerns with me about how it would translate to
the next level. Like that was even my hesitation there
at three with the sixers, like with the Homer had
on as it was like it went from you know,
he was his highest two points. He was arguably above

(37:02):
Harper and then he kind of fell down the board
a little bit. But again for Utah, like this is
a team who you know, again you want to talk
about getting killed in the lottery, Like they dropped all
the way to five in a draft, in a draft
where they were one of the worst teams in the
league last year. This is just type of taking swing.
You take like he might hate it, but who cares.
He might be really good too if this all pans out,

(37:23):
And that's what you got to do, if you're Utah,
like you add that top end talent because you're like,
if we're straight up looking taking all the intangibles off
the board, he probably could have gone higher in this draft.
I just think again it was he really just had
an unconventional u lead up to the draft, for sure.
But yes, I say to say, I like that pick

(37:44):
for Utah other later picks that I like. Still, I mean, okay, see, man,
like you talk about how you keep it a title
or a dynasty going, and how you repeat titles. It's
like you got to hit on these guys that because
you know guys are gonna get priced out, you gotta
hit on your draft picks. And bringing young talent man
Thomas Storber is such a good pick for them, Like

(38:04):
I think potentially when Hartenstein leaves one day, if he
gets priced out, like he can slide into that role,
gigantic wingspan, like they just, you know, again talking about
adding depth there for that big so he can play
next to Chet, Like that's just I really really like
that pick for them. And then kind of later, you know,
Miami with Casparist from Illinois. I mean, that's a guy

(38:27):
who was he was projected to go like top five
at one point a few months ago. He plummets all
the way to twenty. Like that just feels like a
situation where it was like the guy was probably better
than his draft pick already, and then you put him
in Miami, a place that's been pretty good historically developing.
You got to feel pretty good about that overall. And

(38:47):
then two late picks for me, I do. I don't
want to be I because you're gonna hate on him.
I do got to be the homer here a little bit.
I like Jace Richardson for Orlando. I thought that was
a good pick. I think he kind of fits the
Cole Anthony role a little bit that there now they
need that score off the bench. Also, you know a
little bit of connection with the Orlando organization as well
being Jason Richardson's son, if that makes you want to

(39:08):
feel a little bit old as well, now that Richardson's
already got his kid in the league. And dude, there's
been a lot of like there's been a lot of
props for Sacramento going around too. Man with Nee Cliffords
from Colorado State. You know, he's a bit older, he's
twenty three years old. He played five years of college ball.
But it feels like he's a guy who can come

(39:30):
in and make an instant impact. And again getting him
pretty late in the draft here at twenty four. Basically
his floor is solid. I just feel like, like I
don't know how high a ceiling is, but his floor
is a lot higher than some of these other guys,
And a lot of times that that COEs places too,
no and.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Well, and you know, I think that's a big part
of even the discussion that was with Oka see right
and really both teams actually in the finals. Is like
when the offense wasn't their defense was there at least
cooking as well. And so I feel like we're seeing
a resurgence in I don't want to say the value
in defense, but kind of if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
No, I mean definitely. I mean it's been there the
last two years. There's absolutely a research is on defense.
I mean every team that's won the title in the
past few years has been pretty great defensively. I mean, okay,
see this season that were they known for their defense?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, and that's what I'm saying. So, like,
I think that's a cool spot and we're definitely seeing
that value there. The one guy I wanted to bring up,
he was actually in the second round. I believe he
was traded to Minnesota. I think the Bulls technically picked him,
but it was traded to Minnesota or however that went.
Because every freaking pick in like after like what was

(40:42):
it the sixth everybody was just right about this rocko
from Australia. He's going to be the third tallest guy
in the NBA. Yeah, isn't that wild to think? At eight?
I think he's eighteen. At eighteen years old, he has
a nine foot six point five inch standing reach. So

(41:03):
obviously the Timberwolves just getting even more massive dudes from Australia.
But I remember catching the second round at one point
and was pretty pretty I guess, surprised by those stats.
So I was just like, listen, man, dude's gonna be massive.
So even just with the obvious potential defensiveness of it,
will be kind of cool to see.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, no, definitely, I mean, and yeah, they're Tuls in
the NBA. That's really it was OUs, but.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Like, wow, I think it was. I think they said
it was Chet and Zach Edy are only taller than
him or something like that.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
It was like, two guys, look right now looking at this,
what's what? Wenby's not really Eati's number one right now?
Okay seven to four?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
We okay, no, no, no, ETI's number one?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
What's Wemby?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Wemby? Yeah, it was like it was surprisingly. I don't
think Wemby was on the lit top.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Seven to three. It's impossible for him not to be there.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
But that's what I'm saying is so is this guy?
I bet it goes it. Then you got to get
into inches. I think at that point, because this guy
is seven three to Rocko seven three, uh tallest players,
He's probably.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
The same with Wenby because EDI's listed as seven to
four and Wenby's listed as seventh three, so he's probably
he's tied one either way. Though. That's the point.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
It's like this guy's massive, like yeah, Edi, yeah, Wemby
and then Bull Bull is also seventh three, so they
probably just threw him on the list. But but yeah,
isn't that crazy though, Like I don't know why I
didn't think Zach was the tallest.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
No, well, yeah, it was because Wemby. It's because Wenby
has been like such an alien and Wenby just like you,
taller because he's so lanky too, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Chet too, Like if you would ask me, I would
have I would have guessed Wemby and Chet check.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
You just the Check looks big until you put him
next to Wemby.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Though.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's the thing is, it's like big Ched is like man,
you put Hi next to Webby and you're like.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Oh, I think without this info, if you asked me
to say the top four tallest NBA players, like Wemby,
Chet would have been two of my guesses, I may
have gone Rudy just off of the he's always talked
about defensively. Yeah, and then I don't even know who
I would have went with number four. Now I am

(43:13):
thinking about it. Who else is kind of like.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
I mean KP Joelle, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Maybe KP over Joel in terms of just talking about
tall players. But I know that I don't know who
I would have went with at number four, but that
Zach would not have been on my list, I guess
is My point is like, oh yeah, yeah, so that's
kind of wild.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I mean, look in terms of ones that we don't like,
and again I'm kind of with you, Like the hardest
podcast for me to recorder the ones when we first
start the season off, Like I'm talking about like that
first week, it's like cool, let me give a hot
take about a team four games into the season, like,
let me just fire these off. But draft is a
little less here. The one that I just don't get

(43:57):
at all is New Orleans. And this all goes back
to like when they hired Joe Dumars, which is hilarious
because Joe Dumars hadn't been a GM in ages. They
would add of their way to get this guy. It's
just the pick that they gave away, Like they traded
the twenty three pick for thirteen and then included that
twenty twenty six unprotected first round pick. And so it's

(44:19):
either gonna be the Pelicans or the Bucks, which everyone
is a more favorable pick. It's probably gonna be the Pelicans,
like even with Davey and now, you would think they're
gonna be worse, Like you never know how it's gonna
be with the honest, Like, dude, New Orleans won twenty
one games last year. You just gave your unprotected first
round or away, Like what makes you think this roster
is going to radically be better next year? Like they've

(44:39):
already made a few moves. And look, I know, de
John say Murray is hopefully going to be healthy. We
say hopefully z Ion is going to be healthy again.
You know, they made it the CJ. McCollum trade to
shake things up a little bit. They brought Jordan Poole in,
you know, their rookies with Jeremiah Fears and Derek Queen.
I don't think like either of them necessarily instant impact guys,

(45:02):
Like there's probably a little bit of development there. So like, yeah,
it's just like, I don't moving up is cool, but
given away that unprotected first round pick, like that could
be a top five pick next year.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, and I'm trying to remember, I'm trying to pull
it up. I don't think I would get it in time.
I was trying to see what their record was at
the beginning. Well, no, because they started off right off
the rip injured.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Well yeah, they made they they were last year that
everybody got hurt. I mean yes, at that one point
where they were basically calling emergency players up, it was
like everybody on the rock. And that was even before
they traded brandon Ingram. Like that's the thing too, is
like brandon Ingram's gone. If they had that roster that
made the playoffs a little bit still, maybe I'd feel better.
And you know, again they saw players that I like,
like Trey Murphy a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it

(45:52):
feels so short sighted for the Pelicans to be given
away picks like that.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Very much short short sighted post All Star break again
who were eight and nineteen. So it's not even like
they really ended the season in a way that you're like, oh,
there was some upside, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, pretty.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
It's it's it's almost malpracticing. I like, Chase came in
and tried to hype me up on the Jordan Poole thing,
and I was like, at what point does that That
doesn't excite me at all? For what for New Orleans
or just in general in general, Like Jordan Poole go
into really any team at this point doesn't excite me.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I disagree with that because I think he's proven that
he can win in the finals. Like, I know that
people think Jordan Poole's a knucklehead, and I know he's
played a ton of unserious basketball in Washington here the
last few years, but I still also think of the
twenty twenty two finals and I'm like, hey, he played
some really high leverage, meaningful minutes then and was a
big reason that Golden State won the title that year.

(46:50):
So I'm with you. I don't know that I want
Jordan Poole as my main guy. And that's my kind
of my concern here in New Orleans is I'm like,
do you have Jordan Poole like over projected here a
little bit? It I like the Queen pick more than
the fiercet pick. I will say that from a vacuum.
I think Queen has a ton of potential. If anything,
he probably did slide down the board a little bit.

(47:11):
It's more of just like how low I am on
them moving that pick. I think moving that pick was
such a bad decision.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, it's because next year you really could have used
that pick to add to whatever you're trying to build
in the long term here, right Like, that's I guess
what it comes down to. It you're about to lose it.
Especially it could be it would be real crazy if
if you have the number one pick or something like
that next year.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
It'd be an all time wonder. It'd be an all
time blunder.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Oh my lord, that would be so stressful. Would you rather,
just because I'm thinking about, would you rather have CJ.
McCollum or Jordan Poole?

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Oh, in twenty twenty five, I think I'd rather have
Jordan Poole. And that sounds crazy, I mean, unless I
need a locker room guy like CJ's obviously.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
A great locker But yeah, it's very similar, at least
in I'm guessing this is last year stats when you
compare him, I mean, twenty one points from CJ twenty
twenty and a half from Jordan Poole about four assists each,
three maybe four rebounds. Percentages are really similar except Jordan

(48:17):
Poole's got a better free throw percentage. Like they're wildly similar.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I'm kind of going for age there, I think more
than anything. Again, George Poole's is much much younger than CJ.
A lot of let's wear on the tires at this point, dude,
I kick it over that guy. And Jake Fisher tweeted
this the about the young Hansen pick for Portland, which
is obviously a big surprise there, like he was not projected.

(48:41):
He goes high as he did, he ended up going sixteen,
and I just love that. He just says a nugget
source just texted me and said, quote Chinese Yokic about
the Blazers surprise selection, and I'm just like, yo, guys,
come on, like which Chinese yogic is nuts? I can't
get over that pick. And I did love his uh

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interview though. Did you see his interview when he got
introduced in Portland? No?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
No, They're like what do you like to do?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
He's like, you know, I like eating, I like playing
PlayStation five. I was like, yeah, I feel you, bro,
I hear.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You, Like, yeah they said that, I see you here,
Like all the headlines are like winning fans over in
press conference.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
I mean, that's just such a wild pick. Like every
once in a while there's just every draft or somebody
that just like feels like a galaxy brain of pick.
I think that was Portland this year around, Like I
just don't know how if they took him that high.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Interesting, So so uh who posted this? They're claiming that
he is the third Chinese born player ever drafted in
the first round, which is wild, no way right that

(49:55):
that feels wrong like from China or that are Chinese
born player. It was, uh wow, and ye I hope
I'm saying that right in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah, I remember. That's why I'm surprised because like that
wasn't like obviously yao is GW we.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
All know that what I'm saying. I know he would
be the number.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
One I thought, Yeah, I remember he was in two
thousand and seven, and then wow, I guess there really
hasn't been one since. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Good for them, I guess.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, So that surprise that dude, that wow, that does
that surprises me too. I'm not gonna lie. That's because
that's a big gap, like he got drafted in two
thousand and seven.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, and uh also worth mentioning that, uh that the
Blazers franchise is up for sale.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
So yeah, well the Lakers just got ten billions what
the Blazers get.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
But but let's be real, that goes back to the
Hole Luca thing, like, dude, no, no, the conspiracy grows, dude.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yo, the Nets took five players in this draft and
they didn't trade any of them, So you're talking about
all the trades going on, and that's five new guys.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Which is a first in draft too. They were saying
that four was only the most. But back to the
Lakers thing, because I'm not just going to go past
it because not only is it to get them more money,
it also now really makes people potentially intrigued in opening
new cities, new franchises if you see the value there. Dude,
the conspiracy theory goes so deep on this one.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Now. Yeah, I mean NBA franchises too, were obviously at
an all time high value wise, so I think that's
not surprising. And the Lakers are the Lakers, but it's like,
whoa ten billions is.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Now the NBA and now the NBA who you know,
people claim the ratings are down and all that stuff.
You can go and she's like, look, we just got
ten bill for the Lakers. You want to open up
the Sonics again. You want to open up a Vegas team?
You want to you know, That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
But it's just like it's it's only surprising because it's
like the Timberwolves sale just got finalized and that went
for one and a half billion, right right, And like,
I know Minnesota it is not the Los Angeles Lakers
in terms of like prestige or value, but I didn't
think it was like an eight and a half billion
dollar difference. That's crazy to me. Like it's not in Minnesota.

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Timberwolves aren't the smallest market team by far.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
No, But you know what they say about Minnesota, it's
the it's the La of the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah. I genuinely heard great things about Minneapolis, honestly, Like
we go back to the cities, Like I haven't been
to Minneapolis, but I have That's I guess. I've been
in the airport. It doesn't really count, but I have
been to the airport. Yeah, anyway, most torture fans in sports.
I feel so bad for that. I say that all
the time. No championships since ninety one and three of
their teams have never won championships. Yeah, yeah, all right,

(52:45):
Who's ballin? Who's falling? Our NBA version of the stock market,
we always like start with the good before the bad,
so justin, I will start with you this week. Who
is Ballin'?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Ballin?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
For me?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Is the NBA for selling their soul to State Farm?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Oh? This should have been falling, dude. This was this
was bad, man, This was so bad. It was an infomercial.
The draft was an infomercial for State Farm.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Go get the bag. Jake from State Farm treated like
a god at the whole thing, too.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Is the jake I'm not mad to get the bag
for I'm bad at the NBA because the NBA doesn't
need to do that, bro.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Like, yeah, you know your worth, know your value on
this thing. Obviously. The biggest, most egregious part of this
whole thing is that the pick is in chime became
became the State Farm jingle.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah that's crazy. Yeah it was. This was discussed and like, look,
I guess we really shouldn't be that surprised, because this
is also a world where the NBA has named their
developmental league after Gatorade, So like, you know, maybe this
isn't that surprising.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
If you ever have time, you got to go look
at just because they run him on the radio station
here and I've heard them on the TV too. There's
a Gatorade commercial going on and I would assume it's
the founder's voice, uh, mister gator himself. No, he goes,
it must have been from a quote or something, and
he's like and it's like, so naturally we called it Gatorade.

(54:08):
But it sounds so old because it's like recorded.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
And who knows old time. The Gatory is like six
years old at this point.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Well and you know the Gator you know it happened
at UF So like that is the whole thing with it.
But but like, for whatever whatever reason, that next year,
if the NBA is going to sell its soul, that's
what I want. I want Gatorade to buy it. And
every time the pick is in, I want it to
go or so naturally we called it Gatorade.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I don't even know what Yeah, okay, it can't be
worse than that State Farm thing honestly like it was.
They're pretty equivalent in his back, it was just a
shameless man. Can we like, can we just can we
getting shame back? That's basically my point.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Can can Apple sponsor it? And every time the pick
is in, it's just the alarm sound, so everyone thinks
they're waking up from a dream.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
That was Like, I feel like that would call somebody
to snap, Like I don't know if that'd be a
good thing. Like I feel like we'd send somebody on
like a murder rampage after that. Lord, all right, balling
for me is nas read five years, one hundred and
twenty five million dollar deal to stay with the timber Wolves,
you know, I mean, look, the writing was on the
wall here. I think this is a surprise, and nobody
obviously read it. Has been a fan favorite there in

(55:20):
many the past few years, two straight runs to the
conference finals. You know, he's played well with Gobert, so
obviously they've they've kind of had a little twin Towers
a bit in that lineup. Six Man of the Year
a few years ago as well. He's just still twenty
five years old, so yeah, I mean, I mean makes
a lot of sense, you know, running this quarterback obviously

(55:41):
makes sense, But congrats to him on the big deal.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
If naz Reid ends up playing his five year contract,
he will end up being the second longest ten year
Timberwolf of all time.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I dude, I believe it honestly. I mean he's been
there his entire career. Like, do you have the longest
tenure in front of you?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Do you know? They are Kg's fourteen, Sam Mitchell's ten.
Uh huh, Pat is tied with Doug West at nine,
and then it's Ricky Rubio nine.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
There is crazy that just that flew so fast man.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yeah, then there's seven Kevin Love. Nazri's at six with
Kevin Love right now, Corey Brewer, Andrew Wiggins. Uh, Nikolo
Pekovic is on there as well.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Wow, early driving this throwback? Who is who's number two?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Again? Wolves? Sam Mitchell? Ten years?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Okay? All right? In KG one obviously KG those people
forget too those those years at the end where he
came back.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah, KG is fourteen Okay, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Mean that makes sense. Best player in Wolve's history by
far there. I don't think anybody would argue with that.
All right, who's fallen for you? This week.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
It's crazy nas went from undrafted to fan favorite to
six Man of the Year to core rotation.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yeah, dude, I mean he really is like him, and
I mean you look at recently, it's like he's probably
the biggest undraft and stories since Fred van Vliet, right, Yeah,
Like Fred's obviously been the guy with that, but I
think Reid's definitely up there now.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Okay, so my fallen we
probably should have known it was coming when he was
really vocal about liking a guy before the NBA Draft
and then the team didn't go with that guy. But
massiou Jeri is out as vice chairman and president of
the Raptors. They decided to part ways. I guess he

(57:27):
was in the final year of his contract anyway, So
there you go with that for the Raptors, And obviously
pretty awkward if you're very vocable amount a player and
then your team doesn't go for that player.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
As the president, it's a big change, I mean, obviously
to say the least, I mean, I feel like that's
super selling it short. I mean, messire Jerry has presided
over the most successful run of Toronto Raptors basketball in
franchise history, obviously culminating with the title in twenty nineteen,
you know, making the swing for Kawhi, one of the
most brilliant moves that we've seen payoff in NBA history

(58:03):
for that year, you know, getting them over the top.
Obviously making the big shake up with the rosen at
the time, after all the run they had had there together.
It's just been interesting though since then, because right like
since Kawhi has left, I mean, and you even go
back to remember, like dude, people were talking about like
trading five first round picks and multiple players to just
employ Jerry as like the president of franchise basketball operations.

(58:26):
And I mean Toronto has been pretty just the past
few years, I mean since winning that title. Like they
had that one run a few years ago when they
played the Sixers in the first round where it was
like the you know, kind of a random cast of characters,
but they were able to you know, scrap their way
into a playoff spot and then never really have done
anything since. And you know, Scotty Barnes is a good pick,

(58:46):
but you know kind of their moves have been kind
of all over the place, and so yeah, I mean
at the end of the deal, it feels like that
this was kind of mutual and that this was headed
in this direction. It's just kind of surprising, like we said,
of an unceremonious end for a guy who again has
provided the most successful run of Toronto Raptors basketball ever.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah, and and and I think that's what you know,
we always get into that conversation, and even we talk
about it with coaches, you know, you even with the
last few that have been out, A lot of those
coaches have really good track records, but maybe in the
more recent history don't or haven't been doing as great.

(59:29):
And so I guess that kind of falls under the
same in this category too. Obviously not a coach, but president.
So you know, it's it's it's a what have you
done for me now kind of thing. I think, you know,
you you do have to appreciate what he did for you.
But you know, we've seen a downward trend of the
Raptors over the past few years.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
So yeah, no doubt about it. Be interesting to see
what they bring in there. All right, Uh fallen for
me this week, We're actually gonna stick with the Raptors
as well. We didn't bring this up in the draft
discussion but we got to talk about Colin Murray Boyle's
reaction to getting drafted to Toronto obviously the ninth overall
pick in the NBA draft, and he dropped the f

(01:00:12):
BO national television when he got picked. That was his reaction,
which is not exactly what you want to see out
of your first round eight.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I love it and I want people to have to
deal with it because we had to deal with it
with Himbid. Remember when Embiid just didn't react and everyone's like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
And he didn't react because he was on a satellite delay.
They immediately had the picture of him reacted within a
few minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I know, but that's what I'm saying. That went around
for so long and oh it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Was I forget who was the commentator that draft, but
it was just like they were they straight up. Guy
was straight up, like I'm concerned about this, Like how
can he not be more like reactive? This is one
of the greatest moments of his life. Like and then
immediately they cut to the picture of him and they're like, oh,
there he is, Okay, Yeah, he's good. He just didn't
see my man, he was like in the camera roon

(01:01:03):
at the time, Like of course, these the satellites delayed
a little bit, but yeah, I either way, and it's crazy,
like this kid's gonna be pretty good defensively. I don't
know how much I like to pick overall, but either way,
definitely uh not not the first initial impression you want.
It'll be interested. I won't see how he talks about

(01:01:24):
that in his press conference. I think that'll be funny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Oh yeah, well you're gonna have to answer for it,
right like then, that's for sure one thing that'll happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
So yeah, no, no doubt about it. But all right, uh,
should we speed run some immaculate great point? Kind of
we're running for a while, but uh, we've been played
here in a few weeks, so let's, uh, let's see
what we got. They've had a bunch of new categories recently,
which we talked about, but actually we mentioned undrafted. Undrafted
was a category a few days ago. They have ten
point They have ten points a game, which is incredible

(01:01:54):
because there's so many like gems in there and guys
you wouldn't think about. But all right, again, for the
podcast listeners, you can always watch the Immaculate Rids on YouTube.
Just search Shrivingish NBA podcast for the podcast listeners. Uh,
from our columns from left to right. This week we've
got OKAC, we've got Houston, and we've got finals MVP.

(01:02:16):
A rose from top to bottom. We got Detroit, we
got Boston, and we got MVP. So justin I'll start
with you. Heybody jumps off page.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Dennis Schroeder works for OKAC Investons.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
He does. Yeah, Den Shure, I mean Den shrore wors
for everybody now, it's kind of crazy. Den shro Worster
Okac in Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Yes, he does. He's probably Gallinari. Gallinari also works for
OKAC and Pistons.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
I think, Oh my god, gallow has been everywhere. Gallo
actually would have been in Boston too, but he got
hurt so he never played so it didn't count.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah. Oh did where did where did Hayward go after Boston?

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Gordon Hayward? Yeah, oh god, he's been all over. He's
been Charlotte, he's been in He was in Okay see
now last season, like he will work for Okay see
in Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
That's what I was getting at. I couldn't remember if
he got.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
To there's a there's a Bundy or Okay see in Boston.
I mean Dennis Schroeder works, Gordon Hayward works, Al Horford works.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
God, I feel like there's somebody, there's another like big One.
I feel like I'm missing just because he works everywhere.
Jeff Green works. Yeah, I don't know any of those
like that jump out right away though, do you want
to go with? I feel like Horford's going to be
the high one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I feel like Gallinari for Pistons. Okay, see will be low.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Callinor he played for the Pistons. What did Gallinory play
for the Pistons?

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Did I remember him in Pistons gear? Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I have no idea. I mean maybe he did. I
I just like I have no recollection of that. I
will trust. I will trust your judgment there because I
think it would be Low the only other one that's
that's running. I mean you mentioned Dennis. Jeremy Grant played
for OKC and uh Detroit. I'm going to Gallo there

(01:04:16):
if you won't to go Gallow Yellow.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I feel confident about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
That's good because I don't there he is yeah second one?
Oh yeah, wow, I looked that up. I have no
idea when he played.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Nello all right, Piston's rockets is interesting. Oh recently Wow
four final MVP six games. Wow, good for you, dude,
he won't play six. I feel like he did a
whole season there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Now he tore his a cl and then he came back.
That was the Boston year. And then he came back.
He played twenty six games for Washington, he played six
for Detroit. He played seventeen for Milwaukee, all in the
same year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
I could have sworn he was there longer. But okay,
all right, so okay, see Boston, like you said, there's
a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I mean Houston and Detroit. Wow, that's just like Actually
for me, for a second, think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
I'm thinking big man like, like, uh, I don't think
christian Wood went over there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I think christian Wood did go there. Actually, I think destroyed.
I think christian Wood was in Houston for a little bit.
I'm pretty sure it sor he started his career.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Was definitely in Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I don't know about He's definitely Detroit too. No, see,
I'm more positive about him being in Detroit than I
am in Houston. Started in Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Yeah, then christian Wood definitely works.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
I'm fine doing christian Wood. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
I zero idea that he went to Christian Wood.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
The concept was so much better than the player.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Wow, he Waska Wow, dude, I'm telling you, I do
not remember him on the Pistons. I remember him on
the Rockets because that's where all the trade talk to
the Lakers happened.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Dude, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, he got he was in
the Rockets organization. Originally, he was with the Sixers very briefly.
It's already started with us. Yeah, the Hanky ties early on.
All right, Detroit Finals, MVP. If we just want to
close that out, I mean, shoot, who want to know?

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Five?

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
It was Billups?

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Right, It's got to be right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I mean, I don't think it has to be not
when they employed Rip Hamilton and Tayshawan and I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I'm pretty sure it was Billups. I mean, the obvious
one from the Bad Boys years is Isaiah. Isaiah is
going to be the best answer. I don't know if
he won, because the Pistons have three titles in franchise history.
They have the two back to back with the Bad Boys,
and then they have that one with the Squad in
the in the two thousands. Oh man, I think Isaiah
may have won both of them honestly and in the

(01:06:46):
in the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Back to back, So then should we go Billups?

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
It might be wrong, but I think I about it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
I think I think it's Chauncey. I think it was
the h.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
A you c h A U and yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
I think you only have two options. I'm wondering if
Isaiah is lower, that would be surprised. No way, Isaiah's Yeah,
I would be surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I mean, if we want to do Isaiah, you can
do Isaiah for finals, MVP and m v P. I
mean there's actually hang on, hang on, did Isaiah when MVP?
Wait and hang on? I gotta pump my brakes there.
I think I just overthought. I don't know God m
v P. I don't know if he would have been
in the conversation for sure. I just I don't know
if he did. Okay, did okay?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Here's an interest. Did d Wade ever get m v
P or finals MVP?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
He definitely got finals, MVP, het P and O six
for sure. I don't think Dwayne waged one m v P. Ever,
that would be I mean it would have been oh nine.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Right, it would not have been the Lebron stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Well, that's the thing, is like, right, Bron took so
much of that away, and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
But that's why I think if he did, we would
have such a low number on him. But I I
can't remember if he want m v P or not.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I mean, I'm trying to think of like recent ones
that would have had I mean, is probably Durant Works,
Jokic Works, Gianness Works, Steph Works, Lebron Works, obviously, MJ
works obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I mean, who's like a one off who's like, well no,
because did you say would work Yoki?

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah, Kobe Shack both works?

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Who want a weird m v P, like a one off.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
That would have tried the m v P like works,
Tim Works.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
That's the thing. It's like winning winning MVP is hard
to like m v P. It's heavy here. I mean, oh, dude,
obviously the first one h dude this year SGA.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Well yeah, I didn't say SGA because I bet that's
going to be real damn high because honestly, what, well,
I guess you could do KD, you could do yeah, okay,
so we'll be fine on oka CE m v P.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Yeah, I mean team, Yeah, I think so, well, yeah, no,
I think so if it's tied to the team, I
think it's MVP with that team. Like I'm trying to
think of else is one recently like Harden's never won,
Russ never won. No, we said Kobe. I'm trying to

(01:09:42):
think like those guys back in the day, Like I
don't think who won, so now you know, I don't
think he went finals MVP. I was gonna say Kevin Garnett,
but Paul Pierce won the finals MVP that year. All right,
if we want to do so, do you want to
do somebody like more recent than do you want to
do like Shack or Jokic, r Yiannis or all right,

(01:10:07):
I'm cool with that. I feel like, yeah, Yannis is
definitely because I mean he's got m VP recently.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
There he is. And I'm curious did Rondo ever end
up with the Rockets Celtics? So I really like, I
feel like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I know he was with the Clippers. I remember that recently,
but there was a part of me that I'm like,
I'm a little like on that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I'm thinking Texas teams is Dallas not Rocky?

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yeah, well, I mean definitely is on Dallas. I mean
we mentioned before Jeff Green works for for uh Boston
and Houston. I mean Boston Finals MVP. If we want
to do that first, I mean, you got you got
Paul Pierce, you got Bill Russell, you got John Havelchek,

(01:11:07):
you got like I mean, Larry Byrd's another obvious one.
The the ones that I wonder is is like the
guy who oh yeah, Jaylen Brown. Yeah, he was the
most recent one for sure. I mean the guys I'm
trying to think of is I'm like trying to think
of like the Celtics are in the Hall of Fame,
but like I'm thinking of like Dave Cowen's you know
what I mean, or like Casey Jones or somebody like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Actually, and that's when I'm fully tapped because like that's
too far back for me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
I'm trying to Like again, it's tough because like these
are guys that definitely won championships, but you just like
don't know if they won the championship or like as
the finals MVP. Ah God, I don't know. I mean
I guess if I'm going lowest there, I'm probably leaning
Pierce or JB. Honestly, Bird is gonna be the highest.

(01:11:58):
I think lot go Brown, We go, Jalen Brown. That's
fine Brown, Yeah he won't work anywhere else. You only
played for one team?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yeah, well, what help if my keyboard would work? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Say, they are not working.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I don't know, Like it's not. It's so weird. It's
like it's not not one to co operate. There we go, okay,
thirty all right, whatever, all right, ok.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Yeah, let's get this cleaned up. Okay, see in Boston,
Houston and Boston. Okay, see MVP, Houston m v P.
I mean, okay, see MVP is KD or Russ like
playing simple? It's kind of like which one do you want? More?

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Or or SGA or SGA?

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
True? True, true? Yeah? Maybe just maybe do SGA. Then
that SGA's recent? Why not you just won the title?

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Uh as I do?

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Just do s h A I it'll be so much faster.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
But the keyboard is not. I come on there we go? Okay,
all right, Holy moly, what do you sound it surprising?

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
I mean, Kadie and Russ are so popular like that,
Houston m v P the hard.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
And yeah, those are the only options. Wasn't Westbrook there
for a second, he was, but I think he was
a winner with the team. You're right, You're right, Rus,
If you have to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Win it with the team, there's a few that works.
Barkley would work.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
You do have to win it with the team. I'm
almost positive so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Moses Malone might have won m v P there too,
low key, and I'm not willing to stake the grid
on it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
You want to go Harden. I feel like Harden might
be the more.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
They're both going to be high. I don't really think
there's a I don't really think there's a wrong ans
are there? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Harden?

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
All right, let's just go James, all right, Moses Malone
did win MVP there, man, Yeah he did. Tarn it
all right, Okay, seeing you just want to do Dennis.
We mentioned Dennis a few times. You can just throw
Dennis in here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Dennis, Yeah, get him in there. Maybe three percent. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
And I hate being shalky, but like Jeff Green's all like,
I'm for Boston and Houston right now. I'm like really
thinking because I feel like there are guys.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Recently Morris brothers, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Marcus playing Houston. Marcus definitely played in Boston.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Yeah, I know, I know, didn't. I always have trouble
knowing which ones which when they start bouncing around teams.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Well, they've all been on a bunch of teams, that's
I know. I don't. I don't think Marcus ever got
to Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Okay, no, big Man Boogie bo He was on the
Rockets for a second, but he denver went to Boston, but.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
He was never in Boston. Drummond was never in Boston. Yeah,
trying to think like who else was on that playoff run?
Like Eric Gordon Capella was never in Boston, like none
of that. None of Boston's guys recently, like Drew Derek
White was Yeah, no, no, Like even trying to think
of their bench guys like like back in the day

(01:15:25):
and like trying to think of like, you know, Perkins
was ever there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Like uh Ronde Brandon Bass did he ever? I know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
I us he was in Orlando and he's on the
Clippers for sure. I don't really know after that, anything
else I would I would truly be spitballing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Let's just go to uncle Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Chalk it out, yeah, Jeffy, let's go all right, all right,
So most popular options huh yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Oh dude, Marcus Waris did start his career in Houston.
That's crazy. I definitely thought he started in Phoenix. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Andre Bradley, Kelly O Lennox.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Oh Lenox are cut quietly at Darling, Jeff Kreeget thirty
two percent. Those shows that this was kind of hard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Can you show us the most popular answers?

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Sorry, Jason Terry's crazy that that works.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah. I would have never thought there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
All right, Oh, there they are, Okay, most popular answers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
For Detroit and oka C. Reggie Jackson UH for Detroit
and Houston. Trayson Grady No, I forgot about him in Detroit. Honestly,
I had no idea. Isaiah Thomas was for Detroit and
finals MVP. Kendrick Perkins for OKC and Boston. Wow, that
is actually crazy. Jeff Green for Rockets in Boston, Larry

(01:16:46):
Bird for Boston and Finals MVP, Kevin Durant OKC MVP,
Quema Lajawan Rockets MVP, and Michael Jordan Finals MVP and MVP.
We want to run our grid back one last time
for Detroit and Okay seed dinner, Low Gallinari for Detroit
and Houston. Christian Wood Detroit Finals MVP, Chauncey Billups, Dennis

(01:17:08):
Schroeder for OKC and Boston, Jeff Green for Houston and Boston,
and Jalen Brown for Celtics Finals MVP ok C, Shay
Gilgils Alexander for m v P, James Harden for Rockets MVP,
and Janna santet To Kumbo for Finals MVP and m
v P. Thank you everybody for listening this episode of
Driving NBA podcast. We appreciate you guys as always. Leave

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Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
I think you've done about dancers today, So wanta danced Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
See the star side are?

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
I think they can

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
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