July 26, 2025 • 53 mins
On this episode of The Drive & Dish NBA Podcast, hosted by Justin Cousart (@JustinContheAir) and Kevin Rafuse (@rafusetolose), the guys start the show by discussing C.J. McCollum's recent comments on the second apron and incentives for team's to keep their homegrown guys. We debate the balance and if that's possible under the current structure. Next, a look at the rest of the summer in the NBA. Marcus Smart is headed to the Lakers and the guys talk his fit and why this is another sign the team is moving around Luka and not LeBron. Plus, a difficult summer for restricted free agents and if we expect any to sign the qualifying offer. In Who's Ballin Who's Fallin, Chris Paul gets #3 back on the Clippers, the Sixers waive Ricky Council IV, LeBron vs. artifical intelligence and Nick Young's lifetime beef with D'Angelo Russell. Finally, another round of Immaculate Grid. Listen to the show wherever you get your podcasts and watch the show on YouTube.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Drive and Dish podcast, The Drive. Welcome
to your moment. To start it off, it's just let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We are definitely in the depths of NBA off season
now because NBA Twitter is out here wishing happy birthday
to players for content. So here we are. Happy birthday
to Walker Kessler. In case anybody was wondering he was
born today.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Okay, Happy birthday, Walker Kestler. We're recording this on July
twenty sixth, by the way, so your birthday wish is
maybe a day late when you hear this.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, yeah, blated birthday in this case. But all I
had to say, you know, while the NBA action is
a little cooled off, or I guess a little less,
there is still a lot to talk about a lot
of free agents still out there. Marcus Smart just signed,
so we'll talk about the Lakers a little bit and
(01:02):
and kind of look at some of the free agents
that are still out there. Some are out there because
of cap situations, which is another part of the conversation
that we wanted to dive into because CJ. McCollum is
definitely making some waves with some comments about how the
(01:24):
cap is tight and essentially teams shouldn't be punished for
drafting well. Obviously, his example would be the Oklahoma City Thunder,
which is essentially going through it now, but that means
they'll be going through it in like what twenty six,
twenty seven when those salaries start to kick in for
Sga Ja La Williams, chet Holmgren. Obviously, some of the
(01:48):
biggest players that were noted that will probably be casualties
of that down the line. Hartenstein, Alex Crusoe, Ludort all guys,
if they're still on the team, could be a casualty
of this cap problem the second apron, if you will.
And I guess my thoughts on it, like I understand
(02:11):
why we have it right. It's to level the playing
field because again, some teams draft better than others, and
we definitely know that from the sixer side of things.
But I guess the thought is, like right off the rip,
I don't want to punish the team for drafting well.
I don't think you should, because if you draft well,
(02:32):
then then you should have a good team, a good
young team like the Thunder, Havel, but you do also
run the risk in that case of the Oklahoma City
Thunder just always being good or never having something to
kind of bring other teams into the fray and potentially
have a fighting chance to break up that core if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well yeah, and I mean that's the balance because right, like, okay,
see's already. I mean you mentioned the guys like i'd
mean sooner than later. I don't even think it's going
to be. Yeah, you may not even have to wait
a full season, like I think you already. They may
be up against the gun, specifically with Hertenstein and Dort,
like both of those two, and like I mean with
lou Dort specifically, I mean fan favorite guy who's been
probably the face of this okay see rebuilt when all
(03:15):
of a sudden done, I mean, I know Sga is
the guy, but Lou Dort's been there for the longest tenure. Yeah,
I mean it is, And it's a balance because I
mean we've talked about, you know how many weeks and
years now at this point about how the NBA, the
most dynastic league probably in the Big four sports, is
now like full of parody when we haven't really had
these repeat champs, Like okay, see, feels like they're prime
(03:38):
to repeat, But like you said, they're gonna have tough
decisions to make, and it really you know, I mean
CJ McCollum, he was on the young Man in the
three on this podcast when he's making these comments, and
he like, you know, you're right, you shouldn't be punished
for drafting well, and I don't think you should knock
teams like there should be an incentive to retain your
homegrown players, Like that could be, is like, because I
(04:01):
think that's what does level the playing field, right, Like
that's how franchises who aren't the marquee free agency destinations
always like that's how they're able to keep their guys.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
A lot of the small market guys that though, that's
their upper hand is draft well and and then pay
those guys well and you'll be good. Whereas, like, you know,
we always joke about it, but like Celtics, Lakers, New York,
like these bigger city places will always just have the
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allure Miami in a way, they'll just always have that
allure of the big city field. They'll be able to
pull in some star talent there and not necessarily have
to worry about drafting perfectly, you know, to get an
all Star team.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, I mean one hundred percent, and you're right. I
think it does level a little bit in that regard.
I don't know though, like because I don't want to
get I like, you know, I like the parody a
little bit here as well, like teams it because the
parody pushes teams to go all in too. Like that's
the thing I like too, is it's like, hey, if
you only may have one or two years with this,
you are going to push your chips in. I think
(05:09):
it makes it a little more exciting in that regard.
So I don't know, you have to strike a balance
because you know, yeah, I guess that's the point of way,
and I don't know an easy way to do that.
Like the next time the agreement is going to be up,
the CBA agreement is like twenty twenty nine to twenty thirty,
I think, which I did get. I did laugh at
(05:29):
the irony, like I'm not gonna dunk on CJ. But
like I did laugh at CJ hating on this deal
or I'm like, CJ, you have negotiate it. But like
you were in the room, what do you mean? But right, no,
I mean it does. I mean, yeah, even look at Boston,
like from last year, that team looks so primed, and
I know it's a little bit of an older course,
(05:50):
so different there with okay see, but like that team
seemed prime to compete for a long time. But it
was even regardless before Tatum got hurt. Like that second
apron is no joke. They were going to be up
against a gun big time and and have to make
decisions kind of the way they did with persingis without Horford,
with Drew Holliday. So yeah, I don't think there's an
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easy answer here. I know that's maybe not as satisfying
as any of our listeners would like, but I don't know.
I mean, I like the way it's working now in
terms of the second apron. I like the parody. I
like that, you know, teams have had to work around that.
I don't think you should just be able to spend
a bunch of money and continue to get away with it.
But you're right. I mean, I think keeping your homegrown
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guys is the one way that And I don't again,
I don't want to punish teams who stay good because
they draft well, like you should get credit for drafting well.
Like the draft is supposed to be the thing that
evens it all out, like I'm not really going to
fault a franchise who just able to hit on every
pick every time, like I want to stop scenes from
buying guys.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Essentially, I wish I could find it again as I
was here it is, so someone posted like, what if
you did only twenty percent of a drafted player's salary
would not count against the cap or something like that,
so then you could offer them like super Maxes and
it's still necessarily would be a lesser amount. So you know,
(07:13):
there's definitely some ways to play around with it. Though
the problem really is it's like, cool, we're talking about
it now, but but like you alluded to, like nothing's
going to change until you know, twenty nine thirty or
right before it essentially like nothing there, we won't be
doing anything. So it's kind of you're gonna have to
deal with it. And and so, you know, love it
or hate it, it's here well.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And maybe you know, you look back and you relax
some of the restrictions that are in the second apron
right now, like you know the fact that you can't
use cash or you can't use first round picks that
are seven or more years in the future. If you're
in trades, like maybe that's the way you even it
up a little bit and that way. You know, I
don't know, Like I said, I don't have a perfect answer.
I don't mind that twenty percent thing may not have
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been you know, it's not the worst thing I've heard.
But yeah, yeah, I do want to incentive teams like
they're teams should get the hometown discount. I guess that's
my point is like you should have advantages that other
franchises who just like want to, you know, peel your
guys away, like I do think if you draft well,
you should have an advantage to bring these guys back,
(08:17):
like if they want to leave, it should need to
be on their own.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yes, no, I I agree with you on that one.
So I it it will take some way smarter at
cap dollars and in managing that situation to figure that out.
But I guess again, just to like hammer in that
point is like it's here to stay for a bit,
(08:41):
Like we're not going to be, you know, doing anything
for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean, well right, yeah, I'm not expecting any
imminent changes here either way. I'm not gonna lie to
like and this is just more of a just laughing
as I was I was doing the prep for this,
like CJ. McCollum, just like all the the headlines too,
or like Washington Wizards guard CJ. McCollum, and like that's
just such a weird sentence still to read for that
(09:05):
right what he is, but like it's still just a
weird sentence for me to read right now. And I mean,
we'll talk Whiz a little bit as we you know,
talk Marcus Smart going from the Whiz to the Lakers.
A few things coming up here on the Driving Ish
NBA podcast. Welcome everybody. My name is Kevin Rafe's joining
me as always my co host Justin khuz Art.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Do you know who scored the league's thirteen millionth point?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
What year did that happen?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Surprisingly, I think this has happened in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Okay, let's just see who is a good player in
twenty twenty two that's scored a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Which I think it might have been his sold on.
It might have been his first year. He might have
been a rookie.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Twenty eighteen, so that was the.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, no, no, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It might yes, it was probably his rookie season.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Did we just talk about him this?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, I think, off the top of my head, I
think he also won Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh twenty twenty two? Well, god, why am I blanket?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
At least I think he did. If if that's the
season that he did, it might have been, Oh it's
a kid, No Scottie.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Oh my god, I was Scotty twenty.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Twenty two, twenty he was twenty one, twenty two, so
I know truere in the you know what I mean?
In the year. Uh no, yeah, January twenty nine, twenty
twenty two, so it would have been his rookie season.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, all right, Well, congratchs the Scottie Barnes there you go.
Good for him. I learned something today, the thirteen million?
Where did that come up at?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Crazy Stats? Posted it a while ago, obviously, and because
I'm not logged in on this computer on X when
I looked up crazy stats to pull one, and that's.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Like, yeah, keep me one from way back in the day.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's yeah, because you know, it's not like in timeline
order because I'm not logged in, So it just showed
like some random highlight ones like another one on here Is.
Jokis is the only player in the NBA, in NBA
Heat history to reach seventeen thousand, five hundred plus points
eight thousand, five hundred plus rebounds in five thousand, five
hundred plus assists in a regular season before turning thirty.
(11:28):
And they pushed that on February nineteenth of this year.
It was like, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
All right, a little bit closer, Yeah, there you go,
all right again. Congrats to Scottie Barnes. Well, I'm sure
he was thrilled about that when he made that happen.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I met nobody even really, like who knows that that's
such a random thing to like be keeping track of?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Well's well, that's what it always comes down to with
those stats too. Rite I say that all the time.
Is it's like, right, like, who's even thinking to keep
track of this? Like, but I mean I guess, I
guess for overall points or there should be uh, there
should be someone out there. Leaves are on iTunes, good
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new episodes are coming out. So we go into Lakers
drama yet again, it's not really drama, but.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Mark, wait, what's dramatic about this?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's kind of the drama part is the whole Lebron
didn't reach out, Luca reached out. I guess if we
really want to dive into it, Marcus Smart signs an
eleven million dollar deal with the Los Angeles Lakers. Obviously
there's some injury risk there the what he played thirty
four games over the last couple couple seasons, body might
(12:53):
be breaking down, but also the competitive edge is still
there and they definitely need it on the Lakers side
of thing. After Dorian Phinney. Smith is going to Houston.
So I guess the stories around it obviously is that
it's happening. We could talk about the meeting for the team.
The big focus of the media stories that are talking
(13:14):
about it is that Luca was actively recruiting Marcus Smart,
and that is where I would say the drama comes
in because Luca's doing it, not necessarily Lebron, which is
what we're used to seeing from the Lakers franchise. Which
goes back to what two episodes ago where we talked
about like this is kind of the changing of the
regime for the Lakers. Well, it's being handed over to Luca.
(13:35):
Is Luca's team.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now, Yeah, I mean he's already. I mean, Marcus Smart's
not the only guy. I mean with the DeAndre Ayton
signing too, they said that Luca was pretty involved in
that and reaching out and you know, trying to get
him there, you know, being that type of rim running
center that they were looking for. And yeah, for Marcus Smart,
I mean, like you said, having not played a lot
of basketball the past few years. You know, he goes
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and leaves Boston obviously a franchise where you know he
was compete and getting a lot of playoff basketball always
in the mix. You go to Memphis, a franchise where
you kind of expected that to continue. It didn't really
work out, a lot of injuries, It just kind of
never feel like he got his footing there. You know,
good to Washington last year obviously they weren't winning anything quick.
So yeah, I mean, for like you said, this is
(14:17):
a chance for him to I think, get back in
that spotlight as well, you know, proof so that that
he's got something in the tank that he can still
play these meaningful minutes. You know, you mentioned a lot
of what he's known for. It's that competitiveness, it's the grid,
it's the hustle on extra possessions. Like there's a reason
he's such a fan favorite in Boston. There is a
valid question, like you said, of how much he has
(14:37):
left in the tank. But this is a good opportunity
for him to prove that.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, and I mean thirty years old, so he is
a little bit older, but still you know, in theory
should be able to play. But yeah, over, I mean
what last season thirty four games, last season twenty. This
season before that is last year with Boston was at
sixty one, So we definitely have seen a significant decrease
in in games that he was able to play. But
(15:03):
all that to say, I think it's worth a flyer. Again,
it's only only eleven million dollar contracts, so worst case,
you can just move on from it if that becomes
the way that you need to go and there's injuries
and it's not really working out, so it seems like
a low risk kind of move, but definitely one worth trying,
and obviously if Luca really does like him, another way
(15:26):
to keep Luca happy, because he's another one that we're
looking at to potentially sign a long term which we
assume he'll be doing. I think he'll be able to
do that. Or they can start the extension talks on
August second, he can sign a four year deal worth
two hundred and twenty four million, or a three year
deal worth one hundred and sixty one million with an
option in twenty twenty eight, which then would allow Luca
(15:50):
to sign the Max deal in twenty twenty eight, and
I would give him thirty five percent of the salary
cap for that season. So that would be crazy and
obviously a lot of money. So part of me wonders
if that's the way it goes. We see a three
year just to open it up for the twenty twenty
eight season and really capitalize on the entire career that
Luca can have.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think we expect any like Luca.
I'm expecting to sign the contract. I don't think the
Lakers need to worry agreed to Yeah, do it right?
So that. I mean, if he's out here recruiting these guys,
like you don't think there's anything there, And I mean, yeah, look,
I think the Lakers have pretty publicly cleared or and
maybe even started with the A D trade where it's
(16:31):
like I think they want to make Lebron and Luca
work and Lebron is opted in, Like I don't think
Lebron is just going to opt out, but like, yeah,
they're they're planning long term around Luka Doncic, Like I
think that's the move going forward, Like Luca is their guy,
He's the guy they're going to build this around. I
mean even like we talked to this about this and
shout to our guy Chris Crawford for filling in last week,
Like CC and I talked about this a little bit
(16:52):
with you know, you look back at where Lebron and
Anthony Davis for so long want at a rim running
center and they go out and get one after Luca
does with Ay and like it. I mean, I know
they tried to with Mark Williams as well, but you know,
it just feels like they know what it is, Like
Lebron is forty at this point. At some point it's
gonna come to an end. Like Lebron and Luca, I
(17:14):
think have so much respect for each other that it's
never gonna be like a messy public divorce. But yeah, yeah,
I think that trade still very much is on the table.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, I just I just wonder what it looks like.
I guess is would be my question, you know, like
what what on both sides? What ends up moving is
a big part of that conversation. I think it makes
sense for there not to be one at the moment,
but again, we'll have to wait and see. And that's
kind of you know, where the Lakers are at the moment.
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Although I think, you know, back to the Margus Martine,
I think this was a good move, you know, kind
of find some of these free agents that are out
there and pull them in and put them on these
deals that are kind of low risk essentially.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah. And I mean a lot of the names that
are left now, I mean, when you look at the
whole market, it is it's a lot of the restricted
market has been really jammed up. There are a lot
of bigger you know, think of like the Josh Gitties
and the Quinin grimes Is and the you know, Cam
Thomas yeah, cam Thomas's of the world, Like they're all
just kind of in limbo, right because it's like teams
(18:21):
are you know, there is that reluctance to spend into
the second aprin I think, which we talked about a
little bit earlier, and you know, the market just may
not have been high as you thought it was for
some of these guys, like they're looking to get the
big paydays and unfortunately they just may not be out there.
I know cam Thomas in particular has been really vocal
about it, and that's been kind of one of the things.
You know, he was he was arguing with Zach Low
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for a little bit, but just like cam Thomas was
kind of pushing for a Max deal and the reports
now are saying that, you know, he and Brooklyn are
looking at like two years, fourteen million or something like that.
Like that's a radical difference.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, it's because you know, back to it, like just
go look at all the restrictions that happen when you're
above the second apron, Like there is a lot of
things you can't do once you're over that. And like
you know with the with the Quintin stuff and on,
like the Sixers and specifics, like you're a team that
like probably sure because the East is open, you might
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have a chance. But it's like you, unless it's a guarantee,
you're not putting yourself in that position where you can't
really do much in the middle of the season when
you need it, Like it's just unnecessary and and really
unless you are like to me, unless you're like okay,
see where you're like you know, we got this, like yeah,
(19:39):
let's go for it again kind of deal I did.
For a lot of those teams, it's not worth it.
And that's where the problem is. It's not that they
don't want the guys. They don't want camp Thomas, the
don't want Quinton Grimes, they don't want Comingo or whatever
or Giddy. Even in that case, it's like no, they
want the't They just they don't want to go over
that second apron. So they got to find a way
to get creative and get you on the team and
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probably have to pay you less a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
No, I mean you're you're just you're stuck, like you said,
I mean Quinn Grimes with the Sixers, Like, I mean,
we can obviously speak to that, like everyone on the
franchise wants Quentin Grimes back, like they just can't afford it. Like, so,
maybe you signed the one year deal, and I think
that's maybe a lot of these guys. Do you sign
the qualifying offer, which is just something we haven't really
seen in a little bit, and that way, you know,
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you get it in for a year and then you
become an unrestricted free agent. But it may just be
a waiting game for a while for a lot of
these guys, which is kind of unfortunate. I mean, the
one that seems like it's a little more likely to
get done restricted free agency. Why does Jonathan kaminga you know,
he and the Warriors feel like they've been trending in
the right direction. The Warriors don't really want to sign
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and trade him because then they'll be at the first
apron already. But you know, there's been some communication about
whether the offer has been there or not. There's also
the Warriors want to keep kaminga long term if you
really want to, you know, see what's out here. If
they still want to believe that they have any chance
to get Yannis, like, they want to keep cominga as
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part of a potential package for that. So it's tough
I don't know. I mean, the Warriors right now are
they're twenty five no below the first apron, and I
don't you know, it does feel like this is their
number one priority at least, but they have a lot
of open roster spots too, so it's like they're kind
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of gotta you know, I know they've there's a few
other guys like specifically veteran wise they've talked to, you know,
I know Al Horford it's been rumored to go there
big time. D Anthony Melton, who's been there before is
also another one. But yeah, these guys, it does feel
like they are in a bit of purgatory right now
for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So I'm reading this article where Anthony Slater has said
there's a chance that Kaminga like you were saying, almost
takes the qualifying offer, And what he's saying is it's
a one year, eight million dollar deal for context uh
comingians worth salary seventeen twenty five. They're saying this would
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push them over the qualifying offers, so a lot of
it could really he could really hinder the Warriors' situation
and put the Warriors in a bad spot. And I
mean with the guys around him. You know, obviously they'll
be trying to compete and contend next year, but like
that could be rough it if you if you're kind
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of capped and not able to do anything else.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, it's just again the lack of flexibility, man. Really,
uh it makes it tough, There's no doubt about it.
You know, as much as the team's pushing all in,
you want to make sure that you're going to push
all in. And I think in the off season that
may be a little tougher sometimes to believe it before
you see the product out there, right, I mean the
other big names that are still out there. I mean
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Russell Westbrook of course is just probably the biggest like
name wise to keep an eye on. Still unsigned at
this point. We'll see where he ends up. Obviously, even
Denver after a year. Yeah, I mean beyond that, you know,
a lot of like we said, until the restricted falls,
it doesn't feel like a lot of these other you know,
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free agency dominoes are gonna fall.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I just gotta wait and see. But that's how it
happens every year. It feels like, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I mean who else the the biggest other names out
there are like Malcolm Brogden, Gary Payton. Second, like, are
we giving Ben Simmons that credit at this point? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Have Ben, let's go.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I don't know. I mean that that's kind of where
we're at. But you know, either way, we'll be keeping
an eye on that. We are definitely in the dark
days this summer. There's no right way around that. If
you if you haven't picked that up by now half
way through this episode, I think you should be getting
it for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I think I think the big thing that's more people
probably care about is like the Luca extension, the Daron
Fox extension. I think Trey Young's up for an extension
like those will be the bigger headlines that we'll see
in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Trade is interesting. I want to see what Atlanta does because,
like I said, I feel like Atlanta has made some
quality moves recently, and I feel like that they've you know,
I feel like they put a decent enough roster around
Trade that I'm kind of intrigued to see what they
can do. You know, Like we said, for for all
of Trey's flaws, I don't really feel like Atlanta has
exactly put him in the best position to succeed either,
(24:23):
and he is such an offensively gifted player that you know,
it's tough. I'm still I'm hesitant to give up on that,
even though there is a part of me that's like, man,
you could pay him a lot of money, and he
got to that conference finals, but he hasn't really been
anywhere near back.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Since, yeah, which is kind of alarming, Like how quickly
that changed, specifically for the Hawks, you know what I mean? Like,
I know it's hard to do it twice, but it's like, yo,
that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
They also shouldn't have been there. We blew it. The
Sixers blew it. We blew it so bad, Like that's
what that is the most probably unforgivable Sixers lost to me,
There is no planet they should have been losing to
that Hawks team, and you will never be able to
tell me otherwise. And they completely vomited all over themselves
(25:11):
in games five and in Game seven, and anyway, he
don't need to rehash that.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
All right?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Who's balling? Who's falling? Our NBA version of the stock
market we always like started good for the bad, So
just to start with you this week, who's balling.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Falling for me? Is let me find it is gonna
go out to Lebron James and his lawyers. Oh okay,
his lawyers are sending a season desist to an AI
company that is apparently making pregnant videos of him. Is
no more.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, listen, man, I don't know what was going I
did see that. I saw the video itself, and it's
hatently absurd. James Harden's in it for some reason. I'm
still trying to figure out what's going on there too. Yeah.
People are weird, man, people are really really weird. Like that,
that's the takeaway from all this is people are really
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really weird.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
The problem is, and here's where I think the issue
lies is like, now that he has sent this, it
wouldn't surprise me if twenty other random people on the
Internet decide to start making the preger videos, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Like, yeah, it's also like you gotta put you people
on notice though, you know, yeah, yeah it might for this,
and like I don't think it's a huge deal, but like,
I don't know. Yeah, it's a little weird and it's
a lot of like it gets into a lot of
questionable things with AI and with right to privacy and
all sorts of other issues like that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, we've talked about that too, was like the fake
post game press conferences where it's it's talking about something
and and it's very obviously AI. But you know, if
you watch it at a at a you know, three
hundred and sixty degree or whatever birds eye view and
you don't like see it up close, you're like, wow,
I can't believe he's saying some of this stuff and.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Breaking news A I was only going to get better too.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh yeah, there are some uh, like I told you,
I said, my whole algorithm is those the bigfoot influencers
that are fake vlogging and for whatever reason, I just
find them hilarious but very obviously AI generated in some
kind of prompt to make him happen. But yeah, it's
(27:32):
I feel like we're just gonna see a lot more
of this kind of stuff until there is some more
I guess, legal clarity as to what's going on, you know,
because like namage, image likeness really comes into play here.
And that's coming from someone that's not a lawyer. You
know you are a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
So yeah, not yeah, buddy, I got we got it.
We'll see, we'll see, we got We got a big,
big test coming up on Tuesday, and Wednesday catch my
drift and then and then maybe after that we can
finally call me a lawyer. But yeah, there's gonna be
I mean, it's gonna get work. AI is caused and
all sorts. It will cause all sorts of rapid legal
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changes like it will in every other industry. Honestly, I mean,
it's not just gonna be a world but like, yeah,
there there are I mean a laundry list of issues
that are coming to play.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I'll have to send you a thing I found where
it was talking about like the cognitive brain function when
using AI for certain things. Oh the study, Yes, that
was bad. And I went and I looked at it
and went, you know, cause I again, I'll admit I
use it a little bit on certain things I feel like.
(28:41):
And this isn't putting anybody on blast. I am very
uncomfortable from a manager position communicating things that are uncomfortable
to my team, if that makes sense, And so a
lot of times what I'll do is I'll say the
unfiltered way I need to say something to AI to
GBT in a way, and it'll be like, can you
help me, like pfasionalize this a little bit to like
(29:03):
not obviously be an issue or still drive home the fact,
but still make it like less mean, if that makes sense.
Sometimes I would be like, just do your damn job.
Obviously I can't say that. So a lot of times
I'll use it to at least help me filter some
words that I'm like, I just need this is what
i want to say. How can I say this without
being an idiot? And and to that what the MIT
(29:27):
was saying, you know, a lot of it was like
you do that, but then you don't retain what it
gives you because it's just giving it to you. And
I would agree because a lot of it's like, oh, yeah,
I got what I want. I'm moving on with my
life now. And that's where like you're saying the issue lies.
It's like, well you didn't learn from that, you just
let AI do it at that point.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, yeah, there's also just the like there's also lines
to where you start making the fake videos or you
start seeing people start to like animate their pictures, you know,
or to like recreate the scene. It's like you start
blurring your cognitive reality a little bit. Is real man?
Well it's kind of like you know, you talk, I mean,
(30:07):
for all the Harry Potter fans, it's like, is that
not what the mirror of errorsat is? Like, yeah, that's it, right,
Like you know you're gonna look at something that's not real,
like it's not I don't I don't know if that
helps you necessarily like process things the way you should.
And like, I don't want to sound like a big
AI hater, I'm really not, Like I I've used a
I two for certain things, like I'm not. There are
(30:29):
plenty of plenty of useful things that it does and
is already doing. But it's like, yeah, there need there
need to be guardrails on it big time, big time.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
For sure, for sure, and and uh, you know there's
a bunch of other videos that I'll have to send
you that I I've went down. But but I think it'll,
like you were saying, it'll just become more and more
integrated into.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Our lives and it already is right.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Right, But I mean like it's gonna like, dude, it's
gonna get to a point like you know, I don't
even know, it's gonna get to a point where it's
it's is I would say, we're like tip of the
Iceberg type stuff, you know, what I mean, I'm like
jokingly was was I gave it my fantasy football team
(31:11):
and like gave it. The problem was it was like
a year behind in terms of the stats of the
stuff it gave me. You could tell was kind of off,
but like it fully gave me like, Okay, this is
what I think about your team. You definitely need some
more running backs. Maybe you compare this guy and this
guy and some of your picks with this to go after.
And it was literally giving me like my friend's team,
Like your friend has this and they have a lot
(31:33):
of running backs, so they might be willing to move away.
Like it was. It was very interesting to see that.
But to the MIT part is like my brain didn't
do all that, so you don't get the reward of
having your brain go through those processes. And for example,
if you're a kid and you're learning this stuff, you
don't learn it, learn it. You just got the answer
(31:54):
moved on, if that makes sense. So that's the part
that's concerning because I know some people. I've been seeing
a lot of people saying like homeschool your kid and
just use chat GPT, and I'm like, well, maybe don't
see that.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Bad idea dude, especially too from the like socialization aspect
and like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
There's a whole other level of problem that we don't
necessarily need to go down on a bat.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Well, listen, we got a long off season. We can
address that next podcast, so listen, especially especially of news
moves at the pace and move this week. All right,
balling for me this week is Bradley Beal already given
an assist his teammate Chris Paul. Usually it's christ in
the assists, but yeah, Bradley Beal giving up number three
so that Chris Paul can wear it in his return
to the Clippers. Of course they are now officially teammates.
(32:40):
Bradley Beal's were number three for his career, you know,
just being a good teammate. Chris has warned a little
bit longer giving it up, no questions asked. So yeah,
real classy move there from Bradley Beal.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
My I'll just jump right into falling. Obviously. We're very
happy for them to figure out their numbers situation because
that was you know, let's be my fallen and I'm
very excited to get to this is uh a situation
that has happened after a woman leads some d ms
(33:13):
that are exposing Dangelo Russell for cheating.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Nick has chimed, oh I bet he has. I'm sure
he has.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Nick Young said, God answers all prayers. You know.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Now God answers no.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But you know, damn well.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
The ward said, lead me out of this, Nick, this
is between you two. He said, lead me. I don't
evokee me for this.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Hey, hey, you know I had nothing to do with
this one. I want to stay far away from that.
But you knew the second that happened. We needed to
get Nick Young's thoughts on this situation.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Uh yeah, yeah, you knew it was coming. There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I love how that is still a thing. That is
still a thing that comes up.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Right, which, like again Nick Young, it's like at the
end of the day, like Buddy's fall, like Dangelo did
you crazy? But like, yeah, that was wild man, wild
oh man. I should have I should have done mine first.
Am I'm so lame compared to that now. I mean
my fallen, my falling is Ricky Counsel the fourth because
the Sixers waived him. It's more about this press release too, right, So,
(34:23):
like Ricky's been in the G League for a while,
and he's been on the team for two seasons, and
like he's like not not a quote full grown, homegrown guy,
if you will, but like, yeah, he's been, Like people
have had some like we were excited to see him
get some minutes last year. Anyway, his press release is
two sentences long. It just literally says Philadelphia seventy six
Ers president of basketball Operations Darryl Morey, and now today
(34:44):
that the team has waived Ricky Council. The fourth Council
Fourth uppeared in one hundred and five games over two seasons,
with the Sixers, averaging six point seven, two point five,
one point one in fourteen six point minutes. That's it.
It's like what it was like borderline where I was
like something happened behind the scene here, Like should I
be worried a little bit? Like this is kind of
it's a little brief, but yeah, either way, he's been. Uh,
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Ricky was kind of a G League guy for a
little bit. So I'm sure he gets it picked up
somewhere else, Like I think, if nothing else, will be
playing in the G or unless he goes overseas well.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know, I don't want to offer any advice, but
you know, if you do, go to chat GPT and
ask it to give you a four sentence summary, it
will give you a four summary of what you're trying
to say. So you could have had a longer press
release and made it now, I.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Would have used all the water in the village though
somewhere like man we got we would drain somebody's river
do that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So uh yeah, I mean obviously bumm to see him go.
He was he was a yeah, I definitely want to
see him still get some basketball playing in so.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Well, like I he never really took the leap that
one or to last year with that bigger minutes like
that is unfortunate. Yeah, I don't know either way.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
The top spot for the guys that that are deserving.
You know that you said he'll get.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
A two way somewhere, and I mean honestly like the
other reality too is once Justin Edwards emerged last year,
I think it was kind of over there, like six
Ers re signed Edwards this offseason.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yep, yep, you know so.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, writing kind of on the wall. But all right,
should we play some immaculate grid?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
We shall play some immaculate grid. Now I picked a
different date because the one for today was very uh
like category driven if that. Yes, so it's a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I feel like Saturday is their category days.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, so I switched it. I changed it to a
day that was like two days ago or something like that.
So if you already played it, let me know.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I have not as much recently only because of Yeah.
I definitely even played this one only because of like
just barb rep like reality is that like I usually
I for while was playing daily and have been mostly
like all through school I was and stuff too. I
definitely this past like two weeks off a little bit,
so this will be a good one for sure. And again, hey,
(37:02):
you can always watch the Immaculate Brids on YouTube. Just
search driving to sh NBA podcast For the podcast listeners
are columns this week, from left to right, we've got
the Sixers, the Clippers, and all rookie team arose. From
top to bottom, we got the Magic, the Thunder and
the Pistons. So just anybody that jumps off page for
you right away.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well right off the rip. I know Tobias Harris works
for Piston Sixers. A Drummond also would work there.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Tobias Harris works in four places on this spoort Tobias
Harris works for Magic Sixers, Magic Clippers, Sixers, Pistons and Pistons. Clippers.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, I feel like he's going to behind high in
every single one of those too, which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I feel like the least that he'd be is is
Magic Clippers. Like he's on the Pistons now and he
was on the Pistons before and pretty good there. The
Sixers will be just because I mean that's where he's
bitten for the past few years. Yeah, going back to
see my bad. Who who else are you saying for? Uh?
For Sixers and Pistons. I know Jeremy Grant works there.
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Iverson works there too.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Did Cannon do both? Or was that.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Cannon was on the Bulls. I don't know if he
was on the Pistons.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Okay, I thought he was. I know, Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Drummond who you mentioned? Yeah, Drummond definitely works Therefore, ever
go to the Pistons, I don't think he did. Oh god,
he might have, like like, but I'm not he did.
He's definitely on the Pelicans at one point. No works
there and who might be low only because he was
only on the Sixers so like half a season. Dude,
(38:48):
Alec Burks. Alec Burks works for Sixers and Pistons.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait, there's a shooter on the
Pistons now that was drafted by the Sixers, right, is
Dario there?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
No, he just got there. I don't think she was there.
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
No, there was a there's a shooter. I want to
I swear to Landry Shammitt is shammit?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
There?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Maybe Shaman's who I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
There's some sham It's been everywhere, dude.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, there was a shooter from the six Ers and
one Oh you know who wears for Sixers and okay
see New Orleans know, well.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, the Sixers. Okay, see there's quiet. I mean Isaiah
Joe works there, Joe Mike Muscal works there.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I would be down that. If you want to do
okaf for Sixers and Pistons, I'd be down. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Would go there. I don't think he did or not.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I think he did. He was on the Pistons that
recent team, right we're talking about no, yes, yes, yes,
not a Mecca Mecca was never a Sixer.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I know.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I just maket Mecca though, yukon legend.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, point eight for that.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Did he go right after I don't remember where. Maybe
it was right after the Sixers. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I'm trying to remember where he got traded too. I
feel like there I thought there was one in between. Oh,
yeah he went to he did he actually went to
the Pelicans before the Pistons. Yeah, he went to the
Pelicans right after Sixers Nets. No, he went to the
Nets after nets.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah. He had twenty six games with Brooklyn and then
he had the two seasons of the Pelicans. He had
twenty seven games with Detroit, and then he had one
game with Indie last year. I know he's in the G,
but he did play one game with Indy last year
at the end of the season.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Okay, okay, okay. Uh. Do you think norlans know Well
will be high for OKC seventy six ers.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Probably not. I don't, just because, like I don't think
people associate him with Oka. See.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, do you want to try that then?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, I'd be fine with that. Well, a little more.
I thought a little bit he worked for he would
have worked for six Ers Pistons two. I think, oh interesting, really, yeah,
Sixers Magic. I mean, I'm trying to think of, like
some of the more obvious one, I mean, Markel Faults
is recent. If you want a bench guy, Jonathan Simmons's recent,
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Williams Michael Carter, Williams works, Booch works, dude, if you
want a good one, who's a little more of a
legend low key, but he was here at the end
of his career, dude, Jason Richardson works.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Richardson, I like Richardson. Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
We haven't done that.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
He was a pro, I think it, uh not, he
was just recently. He went he was the Sixers, he
went to the Bucks. What was his name?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Not not Ilias Sola?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Right, he would work, though, wouldn't he?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Is who I was thinking of. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
There is another one who I feel who I You're right?
Who I am trying to that was there relatively recently. Yeah,
either way, though, we should do j rich We don't.
We don't use j rich that.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Uh oh, Jason, there you go. Oh my god. There's
a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, all right, for do we want to do Tobias
then just for for magic and clipper Clippers. I feel
like JJ Reddick is gonna be the highest for that combo.
For which one for Magic and Clippers? Gore tot works
two low key Mark definitely works.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
There's somebody else who I feel like was in that
vein who I was thinking of those? I mean, I
think Turcle you just mentioned. I'm pretty sure turkle was
on the Clippers for a year.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Two was on the Clippers for a year.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
U you know, I don't know who's gonna be lower.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Out of.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Oh no, I lost them?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Hold on, are you talking about like turkleu? Or are
you talking about for.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
For Clippers for clippers? Okay? See wait which one?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
You're okay?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
See still No, I'm in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Oh I was, I'm working ahead. I'm sorry, I'm working ahead. Mh.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I mean Detroit and the Clippers. I'm not rid.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Where did Mario or Hisonia go.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Uh Orlando the Knicks?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Did he ever end up on the Clippers?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I don't know, man, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Let's do Tobias. We gotta put somebody on the board either.
Let's do Tobias. So let's do guartt They'll be they'll
be lower than JJ Reddick will for.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Sure, let's do. Gort Gorgot will be low. I feel
like Tobias is like weirdly popular.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
He works, like I said, he works everywhere with his grid.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I know, let's go.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
It's okay, all right. I mean Thunder and Clippers, the
obvious tour, Russ and Harden.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
You know who else is really obvious?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
S g A oh yeah, yeah yeah. And Paul George,
Paul George a lot of yeah, a lot of history
with that one.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yep uh. I think Serge of Bacca works.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I think Obacca works too.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I think works. He'll be low.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I'd be fine with Ebacca there, he'll may be low.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I forgot about Serge Ibacca. Dude, yeah, two percent less.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Nice all right. Pistons and Clippers, I mean the the
big obvious one is Blake Griffin.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, Blake, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I'm trying to think. I don't think. I don't think Billups.
I'm trying to remember if Billups is that we are
on the Clipper. It's like real late in his career.
But I don't think. I'm I'm not one hundred percent there.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Mm hmm. There is a shooter. There's a shooter. That
was on both teams. He's a good shooter too, He's
a three point shooter.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
It's not Canard, is it?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Oh? It is Canard?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Oh, I mean we do Canard.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
But he'll be high, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah? Probably, But I mean he won't be high as.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Blake No or Tobias.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh yeah, that's right. We got to forget about We
got to use Tobias somewhere. We gotta, we got to.
We mentioned him so many times in this scread. I
feel like we have to.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I'll take that. I did not think it was gonna
be that that low.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I think Pistons and Magic is the only place where
uh not Pistons of Magic, Magic Clippers, I think is
the only place where it's a little lower. But all right,
all rookie team, Magic, Thunder and Pistons. So I mean
Piston's a chalky? Answer is kid?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, Kate? Do they have to be the all rookie
team on that team?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Think?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
So with a non care does not need to be
the same season?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Wait, when paired with a non team category does not
need to be in the Oh no, So yeah, if
there were two stats that they wouldn't need to be
in the same season.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Okay, okay, okay. I was about to say, like, wait,
then we have a lot of people to work with.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I mean magic all rookie team. My initial thoughts are Penny.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Shack right, who Big Carol?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Oh yeah, Big Carrol. I thought you said a flollow
For a second, I hearn a home like yeah too.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
But Howard Dwight right.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Oh yeah Dwight for sure, I think yeah, Paulo, I mean,
I mean Franz too, honestly, like Franz might be.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
The answer probably is the answer. Yeah, do you want
to go Franz?
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I think so yeah. I feel pretty comfortable saying Franz.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Not to be the lowest out of all them, right, yeah,
six percent we'll take Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah he had to. I would say he definitely made
the rookie team. That's a hilarious picture for Franz too.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So okay, see, I would assume KD. I would assume Westbrook.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Dude, if you want to do an okay see one
that I think would work, He's probably not like he's
not there anymore because the same here as Franz. Dude,
Josh Gitty, Josh Gitty, I think made all.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Rookie He was there for sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
he was, like, dude, what e y ah? All right,
there we go one.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
I mean I guess yeah, you got a lot of
guys if you do the Sonics guys too. All right,
Piston team, I mean, Cade's the obvious answer.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I don't a bigger name.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I mean maybe Drummond and his rookie year. Did I know?
O Sar didn't? Did Grant Hill?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Who's the other guy that's on the team right now
that made a name for himself in the last playoff
this year's playoff run story? So last name starts with
an ass Oh, I want to look at their roster
so bad.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
You're not talking about, like I say, a Steward, are you?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, I don't think so. I don't think I am.
I was.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
I mean, I say, Stuart's been there for he's been
there for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
No, No, he's younger guy, but he was he he
came out in the playoffs. I can't remember his name now.
I don't think it was Stuart. Mmmm okay.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I mean otherwise, Pistons, like, I mean, some of the
bat like Isaiah had to have made an all rookie team.
I mean Grant Hill definitely made an All Rookie team.
I mean I don't think. Yeah, Bhillips wasn't there as
a rookie. Hamilton wasn't there as a rookie. I mean, yeah,
you met Drummond. Honestly, Drummond definitely feel like made it
(49:39):
all rookie team.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Reggie Jackson's no, Reggie started.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Yeah, I'm trying to think, dude, Like, so do we
think Greg Monroe made an All Rookie team?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Greg Monroe?
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Oh my god, because it was like him and Drummond.
But like, I don't know if Greg Monroe is good
enough to make an all rookie team, but he might
have been.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Do you want to just do Drummond?
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Then let's just do Drummond? Just keep it easy, Yeah, Kate.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I feel like will be the highest answer there. All right,
all right, so let's scroll down. We will see the
most popular answers.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
There's twenty three answers in that all rookie team. I'm
curious to see who that is, Kate, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, all right, So for most popular answers for sixers,
Magic Markel Foltz for we called it there, we go
for Clippers and Magic JJ Reddick for Magic All Rookie Team,
Paulo Bancaro for Sixers and Thunder, James Harden for six
or for Thunder and Clippers, Russell Westbrook for Thunder, All
Rookie Team, Kevin Durant for Sixers and Pistons, Alan Iverson
for Pistons and Clippers, Blake Griffin and for Pistons All
(50:41):
Rookie Team, Kate Cunningham. Not really too many big surprises there.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Greg Monroe did work.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Did he? Oh that's sick. That's good to know.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Brandon Night worked as well.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Oh that's a good one too.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Wow, Brandon is another one. Andre Drummond, Isaiah Stewart Okay,
it was Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Stewart did work. Okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Sadik Bay and Isaiah Stewart made it the same year actually,
and then we got Aide Jade and Ivy and Jalen Durned.
Oh Jaden Ivy dude, come on yeah, team now, yeah
we should have gotten that one.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, all right, our answers. We want to flash back
one last.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I want to see ok sees and Orlando's one last
time because that was there's a little good amount of
people there.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, So for Sixers and Magic. We got Jason Richardson
for Magic and Clippers. Marchine wore tot for Magical Rookie Team,
Franz Wagner for Sixers and Thunder, and nerlans the Well
for Thunder and Clippers. Sergei Baka Underall Rookie Team, Josh
Giddy for Sixers and Pistons, julil okafor for Pistons and Clippers,
Tobias Harris and for Pistons All Rookie Team. Andre Drummond.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Damn it, damn it, dammit. I missed. I missed the
golden opportunity and anybody listening is.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Gonna knowl for Team. Yeah, that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Of Orlando, Jamiir Nelson made it too good.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
And Mike.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Matt Harpering if you want to go back a little bit, Wow.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Okay Matt Harping. Yeah, I would have never, never, never,
in zillion years. I mean I remember Matt, but like
I would have never got him on an all rookie team.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
And on okase if you don't want to count Seattle,
actually Russ would be the first one on okayc not Seattle.
Kevin Durant counts as Seattle, Jeff Green. If you go
back a little bit, YEP for Seattle, you got James Harden,
Steve Adams, Josh Giddy, Jalen Williams, Wallace and yeah, Chett
(52:36):
and Wallace from this year.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Okay, oh yeah, case of Wallace from this year. That
would be a good one. So thank you everybody for
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Speaker 2 (52:51):
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You can watch video versions of the podcast there. I
think we've done my dances for today, so why don't
we dance Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Seeing a star side? Okay, we're all.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Right, all right? I think they could do
This is the Drive and Dish podcast, The Drive. Welcome
to your moment. To start it off, it's just let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We are definitely in the depths of NBA off season
now because NBA Twitter is out here wishing happy birthday
to players for content. So here we are. Happy birthday
to Walker Kessler. In case anybody was wondering he was
born today.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Okay, Happy birthday, Walker Kestler. We're recording this on July
twenty sixth, by the way, so your birthday wish is
maybe a day late when you hear this.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, yeah, blated birthday in this case. But all I
had to say, you know, while the NBA action is
a little cooled off, or I guess a little less,
there is still a lot to talk about a lot
of free agents still out there. Marcus Smart just signed,
so we'll talk about the Lakers a little bit and
(01:02):
and kind of look at some of the free agents
that are still out there. Some are out there because
of cap situations, which is another part of the conversation
that we wanted to dive into because CJ. McCollum is
definitely making some waves with some comments about how the
(01:24):
cap is tight and essentially teams shouldn't be punished for
drafting well. Obviously, his example would be the Oklahoma City Thunder,
which is essentially going through it now, but that means
they'll be going through it in like what twenty six,
twenty seven when those salaries start to kick in for
Sga Ja La Williams, chet Holmgren. Obviously, some of the
(01:48):
biggest players that were noted that will probably be casualties
of that down the line. Hartenstein, Alex Crusoe, Ludort all guys,
if they're still on the team, could be a casualty
of this cap problem the second apron, if you will.
And I guess my thoughts on it, like I understand
(02:11):
why we have it right. It's to level the playing
field because again, some teams draft better than others, and
we definitely know that from the sixer side of things.
But I guess the thought is, like right off the rip,
I don't want to punish the team for drafting well.
I don't think you should, because if you draft well,
(02:32):
then then you should have a good team, a good
young team like the Thunder, Havel, but you do also
run the risk in that case of the Oklahoma City
Thunder just always being good or never having something to
kind of bring other teams into the fray and potentially
have a fighting chance to break up that core if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well yeah, and I mean that's the balance because right, like, okay,
see's already. I mean you mentioned the guys like i'd
mean sooner than later. I don't even think it's going
to be. Yeah, you may not even have to wait
a full season, like I think you already. They may
be up against the gun, specifically with Hertenstein and Dort,
like both of those two, and like I mean with
lou Dort specifically, I mean fan favorite guy who's been
probably the face of this okay see rebuilt when all
(03:15):
of a sudden done, I mean, I know Sga is
the guy, but Lou Dort's been there for the longest tenure. Yeah,
I mean it is, And it's a balance because I
mean we've talked about, you know how many weeks and
years now at this point about how the NBA, the
most dynastic league probably in the Big four sports, is
now like full of parody when we haven't really had
these repeat champs, Like okay, see, feels like they're prime
(03:38):
to repeat, But like you said, they're gonna have tough
decisions to make, and it really you know, I mean
CJ McCollum, he was on the young Man in the
three on this podcast when he's making these comments, and
he like, you know, you're right, you shouldn't be punished
for drafting well, and I don't think you should knock
teams like there should be an incentive to retain your
homegrown players, Like that could be, is like, because I
(04:01):
think that's what does level the playing field, right, Like
that's how franchises who aren't the marquee free agency destinations
always like that's how they're able to keep their guys.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
A lot of the small market guys that though, that's
their upper hand is draft well and and then pay
those guys well and you'll be good. Whereas, like, you know,
we always joke about it, but like Celtics, Lakers, New York,
like these bigger city places will always just have the
(04:31):
allure Miami in a way, they'll just always have that
allure of the big city field. They'll be able to
pull in some star talent there and not necessarily have
to worry about drafting perfectly, you know, to get an
all Star team.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, I mean one hundred percent, and you're right. I
think it does level a little bit in that regard.
I don't know though, like because I don't want to
get I like, you know, I like the parody a
little bit here as well, like teams it because the
parody pushes teams to go all in too. Like that's
the thing I like too, is it's like, hey, if
you only may have one or two years with this,
you are going to push your chips in. I think
(05:09):
it makes it a little more exciting in that regard.
So I don't know, you have to strike a balance
because you know, yeah, I guess that's the point of way,
and I don't know an easy way to do that.
Like the next time the agreement is going to be up,
the CBA agreement is like twenty twenty nine to twenty thirty,
I think, which I did get. I did laugh at
(05:29):
the irony, like I'm not gonna dunk on CJ. But
like I did laugh at CJ hating on this deal
or I'm like, CJ, you have negotiate it. But like
you were in the room, what do you mean? But right, no,
I mean it does. I mean, yeah, even look at Boston,
like from last year, that team looks so primed, and
I know it's a little bit of an older course,
(05:50):
so different there with okay see, but like that team
seemed prime to compete for a long time. But it
was even regardless before Tatum got hurt. Like that second
apron is no joke. They were going to be up
against a gun big time and and have to make
decisions kind of the way they did with persingis without Horford,
with Drew Holliday. So yeah, I don't think there's an
(06:10):
easy answer here. I know that's maybe not as satisfying
as any of our listeners would like, but I don't know.
I mean, I like the way it's working now in
terms of the second apron. I like the parody. I
like that, you know, teams have had to work around that.
I don't think you should just be able to spend
a bunch of money and continue to get away with it.
But you're right. I mean, I think keeping your homegrown
(06:31):
guys is the one way that And I don't again,
I don't want to punish teams who stay good because
they draft well, like you should get credit for drafting well.
Like the draft is supposed to be the thing that
evens it all out, like I'm not really going to
fault a franchise who just able to hit on every
pick every time, like I want to stop scenes from
buying guys.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Essentially, I wish I could find it again as I
was here it is, so someone posted like, what if
you did only twenty percent of a drafted player's salary
would not count against the cap or something like that,
so then you could offer them like super Maxes and
it's still necessarily would be a lesser amount. So you know,
(07:13):
there's definitely some ways to play around with it. Though
the problem really is it's like, cool, we're talking about
it now, but but like you alluded to, like nothing's
going to change until you know, twenty nine thirty or
right before it essentially like nothing there, we won't be
doing anything. So it's kind of you're gonna have to
deal with it. And and so, you know, love it
or hate it, it's here well.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And maybe you know, you look back and you relax
some of the restrictions that are in the second apron
right now, like you know the fact that you can't
use cash or you can't use first round picks that
are seven or more years in the future. If you're
in trades, like maybe that's the way you even it
up a little bit and that way. You know, I
don't know, Like I said, I don't have a perfect answer.
I don't mind that twenty percent thing may not have
(07:55):
been you know, it's not the worst thing I've heard.
But yeah, yeah, I do want to incentive teams like
they're teams should get the hometown discount. I guess that's
my point is like you should have advantages that other
franchises who just like want to, you know, peel your
guys away, like I do think if you draft well,
you should have an advantage to bring these guys back,
(08:17):
like if they want to leave, it should need to
be on their own.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yes, no, I I agree with you on that one.
So I it it will take some way smarter at
cap dollars and in managing that situation to figure that out.
But I guess again, just to like hammer in that
point is like it's here to stay for a bit,
(08:41):
Like we're not going to be, you know, doing anything
for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean, well right, yeah, I'm not expecting any
imminent changes here either way. I'm not gonna lie to
like and this is just more of a just laughing
as I was I was doing the prep for this,
like CJ. McCollum, just like all the the headlines too,
or like Washington Wizards guard CJ. McCollum, and like that's
just such a weird sentence still to read for that
(09:05):
right what he is, but like it's still just a
weird sentence for me to read right now. And I mean,
we'll talk Whiz a little bit as we you know,
talk Marcus Smart going from the Whiz to the Lakers.
A few things coming up here on the Driving Ish
NBA podcast. Welcome everybody. My name is Kevin Rafe's joining
me as always my co host Justin khuz Art.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Do you know who scored the league's thirteen millionth point?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
What year did that happen?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Surprisingly, I think this has happened in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Okay, let's just see who is a good player in
twenty twenty two that's scored a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Which I think it might have been his sold on.
It might have been his first year. He might have
been a rookie.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Twenty eighteen, so that was the.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
No, no, no, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It might yes, it was probably his rookie season.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Did we just talk about him this?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, I think, off the top of my head, I
think he also won Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh twenty twenty two? Well, god, why am I blanket?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
At least I think he did. If if that's the
season that he did, it might have been, Oh it's
a kid, No Scottie.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Oh my god, I was Scotty twenty.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Twenty two, twenty he was twenty one, twenty two, so
I know truere in the you know what I mean?
In the year. Uh no, yeah, January twenty nine, twenty
twenty two, so it would have been his rookie season.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, all right, Well, congratchs the Scottie Barnes there you go.
Good for him. I learned something today, the thirteen million?
Where did that come up at?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Crazy Stats? Posted it a while ago, obviously, and because
I'm not logged in on this computer on X when
I looked up crazy stats to pull one, and that's.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Like, yeah, keep me one from way back in the day.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's yeah, because you know, it's not like in timeline
order because I'm not logged in, So it just showed
like some random highlight ones like another one on here Is.
Jokis is the only player in the NBA, in NBA
Heat history to reach seventeen thousand, five hundred plus points
eight thousand, five hundred plus rebounds in five thousand, five
hundred plus assists in a regular season before turning thirty.
(11:28):
And they pushed that on February nineteenth of this year.
It was like, so there you go.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
All right, a little bit closer, Yeah, there you go,
all right again. Congrats to Scottie Barnes. Well, I'm sure
he was thrilled about that when he made that happen.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I met nobody even really, like who knows that that's
such a random thing to like be keeping track of?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Well's well, that's what it always comes down to with
those stats too. Rite I say that all the time.
Is it's like, right, like, who's even thinking to keep
track of this? Like, but I mean I guess, I
guess for overall points or there should be uh, there
should be someone out there. Leaves are on iTunes, good
or battle read them on the podcast. If you're not
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(12:08):
you can find.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
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new episodes are coming out. So we go into Lakers
drama yet again, it's not really drama, but.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Mark, wait, what's dramatic about this?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's kind of the drama part is the whole Lebron
didn't reach out, Luca reached out. I guess if we
really want to dive into it, Marcus Smart signs an
eleven million dollar deal with the Los Angeles Lakers. Obviously
there's some injury risk there the what he played thirty
four games over the last couple couple seasons, body might
(12:53):
be breaking down, but also the competitive edge is still
there and they definitely need it on the Lakers side
of thing. After Dorian Phinney. Smith is going to Houston.
So I guess the stories around it obviously is that
it's happening. We could talk about the meeting for the team.
The big focus of the media stories that are talking
(13:14):
about it is that Luca was actively recruiting Marcus Smart,
and that is where I would say the drama comes
in because Luca's doing it, not necessarily Lebron, which is
what we're used to seeing from the Lakers franchise. Which
goes back to what two episodes ago where we talked
about like this is kind of the changing of the
regime for the Lakers. Well, it's being handed over to Luca.
(13:35):
Is Luca's team.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Now, Yeah, I mean he's already. I mean, Marcus Smart's
not the only guy. I mean with the DeAndre Ayton
signing too, they said that Luca was pretty involved in
that and reaching out and you know, trying to get
him there, you know, being that type of rim running
center that they were looking for. And yeah, for Marcus Smart,
I mean, like you said, having not played a lot
of basketball the past few years. You know, he goes
(13:56):
and leaves Boston obviously a franchise where you know he
was compete and getting a lot of playoff basketball always
in the mix. You go to Memphis, a franchise where
you kind of expected that to continue. It didn't really
work out, a lot of injuries, It just kind of
never feel like he got his footing there. You know,
good to Washington last year obviously they weren't winning anything quick.
So yeah, I mean, for like you said, this is
(14:17):
a chance for him to I think, get back in
that spotlight as well, you know, proof so that that
he's got something in the tank that he can still
play these meaningful minutes. You know, you mentioned a lot
of what he's known for. It's that competitiveness, it's the grid,
it's the hustle on extra possessions. Like there's a reason
he's such a fan favorite in Boston. There is a
valid question, like you said, of how much he has
(14:37):
left in the tank. But this is a good opportunity
for him to prove that.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, and I mean thirty years old, so he is
a little bit older, but still you know, in theory
should be able to play. But yeah, over, I mean
what last season thirty four games, last season twenty. This
season before that is last year with Boston was at
sixty one, So we definitely have seen a significant decrease
in in games that he was able to play. But
(15:03):
all that to say, I think it's worth a flyer. Again,
it's only only eleven million dollar contracts, so worst case,
you can just move on from it if that becomes
the way that you need to go and there's injuries
and it's not really working out, so it seems like
a low risk kind of move, but definitely one worth trying,
and obviously if Luca really does like him, another way
(15:26):
to keep Luca happy, because he's another one that we're
looking at to potentially sign a long term which we
assume he'll be doing. I think he'll be able to
do that. Or they can start the extension talks on
August second, he can sign a four year deal worth
two hundred and twenty four million, or a three year
deal worth one hundred and sixty one million with an
option in twenty twenty eight, which then would allow Luca
(15:50):
to sign the Max deal in twenty twenty eight, and
I would give him thirty five percent of the salary
cap for that season. So that would be crazy and
obviously a lot of money. So part of me wonders
if that's the way it goes. We see a three
year just to open it up for the twenty twenty
eight season and really capitalize on the entire career that
Luca can have.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think we expect any like Luca.
I'm expecting to sign the contract. I don't think the
Lakers need to worry agreed to Yeah, do it right?
So that. I mean, if he's out here recruiting these guys,
like you don't think there's anything there, And I mean, yeah, look,
I think the Lakers have pretty publicly cleared or and
maybe even started with the A D trade where it's
(16:31):
like I think they want to make Lebron and Luca
work and Lebron is opted in, Like I don't think
Lebron is just going to opt out, but like, yeah,
they're they're planning long term around Luka Doncic, Like I
think that's the move going forward, Like Luca is their guy,
He's the guy they're going to build this around. I
mean even like we talked to this about this and
shout to our guy Chris Crawford for filling in last week,
Like CC and I talked about this a little bit
(16:52):
with you know, you look back at where Lebron and
Anthony Davis for so long want at a rim running
center and they go out and get one after Luca
does with Ay and like it. I mean, I know
they tried to with Mark Williams as well, but you know,
it just feels like they know what it is, Like
Lebron is forty at this point. At some point it's
gonna come to an end. Like Lebron and Luca, I
(17:14):
think have so much respect for each other that it's
never gonna be like a messy public divorce. But yeah, yeah,
I think that trade still very much is on the table.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, I just I just wonder what it looks like.
I guess is would be my question, you know, like
what what on both sides? What ends up moving is
a big part of that conversation. I think it makes
sense for there not to be one at the moment,
but again, we'll have to wait and see. And that's
kind of you know, where the Lakers are at the moment.
(17:49):
Although I think, you know, back to the Margus Martine,
I think this was a good move, you know, kind
of find some of these free agents that are out
there and pull them in and put them on these
deals that are kind of low risk essentially.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah. And I mean a lot of the names that
are left now, I mean, when you look at the
whole market, it is it's a lot of the restricted
market has been really jammed up. There are a lot
of bigger you know, think of like the Josh Gitties
and the Quinin grimes Is and the you know, Cam
Thomas yeah, cam Thomas's of the world, Like they're all
just kind of in limbo, right because it's like teams
(18:21):
are you know, there is that reluctance to spend into
the second aprin I think, which we talked about a
little bit earlier, and you know, the market just may
not have been high as you thought it was for
some of these guys, like they're looking to get the
big paydays and unfortunately they just may not be out there.
I know cam Thomas in particular has been really vocal
about it, and that's been kind of one of the things.
You know, he was he was arguing with Zach Low
(18:43):
for a little bit, but just like cam Thomas was
kind of pushing for a Max deal and the reports
now are saying that, you know, he and Brooklyn are
looking at like two years, fourteen million or something like that.
Like that's a radical difference.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, it's because you know, back to it, like just
go look at all the restrictions that happen when you're
above the second apron, Like there is a lot of
things you can't do once you're over that. And like
you know with the with the Quintin stuff and on,
like the Sixers and specifics, like you're a team that
like probably sure because the East is open, you might
(19:18):
have a chance. But it's like you, unless it's a guarantee,
you're not putting yourself in that position where you can't
really do much in the middle of the season when
you need it, Like it's just unnecessary and and really
unless you are like to me, unless you're like okay,
see where you're like you know, we got this, like yeah,
(19:39):
let's go for it again kind of deal I did.
For a lot of those teams, it's not worth it.
And that's where the problem is. It's not that they
don't want the guys. They don't want camp Thomas, the
don't want Quinton Grimes, they don't want Comingo or whatever
or Giddy. Even in that case, it's like no, they
want the't They just they don't want to go over
that second apron. So they got to find a way
to get creative and get you on the team and
(20:00):
probably have to pay you less a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
No, I mean you're you're just you're stuck, like you said,
I mean Quinn Grimes with the Sixers, Like, I mean,
we can obviously speak to that, like everyone on the
franchise wants Quentin Grimes back, like they just can't afford it. Like, so,
maybe you signed the one year deal, and I think
that's maybe a lot of these guys. Do you sign
the qualifying offer, which is just something we haven't really
seen in a little bit, and that way, you know,
(20:22):
you get it in for a year and then you
become an unrestricted free agent. But it may just be
a waiting game for a while for a lot of
these guys, which is kind of unfortunate. I mean, the
one that seems like it's a little more likely to
get done restricted free agency. Why does Jonathan kaminga you know,
he and the Warriors feel like they've been trending in
the right direction. The Warriors don't really want to sign
(20:44):
and trade him because then they'll be at the first
apron already. But you know, there's been some communication about
whether the offer has been there or not. There's also
the Warriors want to keep kaminga long term if you
really want to, you know, see what's out here. If
they still want to believe that they have any chance
to get Yannis, like, they want to keep cominga as
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part of a potential package for that. So it's tough
I don't know. I mean, the Warriors right now are
they're twenty five no below the first apron, and I
don't you know, it does feel like this is their
number one priority at least, but they have a lot
of open roster spots too, so it's like they're kind
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of gotta you know, I know they've there's a few
other guys like specifically veteran wise they've talked to, you know,
I know Al Horford it's been rumored to go there
big time. D Anthony Melton, who's been there before is
also another one. But yeah, these guys, it does feel
like they are in a bit of purgatory right now
for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So I'm reading this article where Anthony Slater has said
there's a chance that Kaminga like you were saying, almost
takes the qualifying offer, And what he's saying is it's
a one year, eight million dollar deal for context uh
comingians worth salary seventeen twenty five. They're saying this would
(22:04):
push them over the qualifying offers, so a lot of
it could really he could really hinder the Warriors' situation
and put the Warriors in a bad spot. And I
mean with the guys around him. You know, obviously they'll
be trying to compete and contend next year, but like
that could be rough it if you if you're kind
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of capped and not able to do anything else.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, it's just again the lack of flexibility, man. Really,
uh it makes it tough, There's no doubt about it.
You know, as much as the team's pushing all in,
you want to make sure that you're going to push
all in. And I think in the off season that
may be a little tougher sometimes to believe it before
you see the product out there, right, I mean the
other big names that are still out there. I mean
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Russell Westbrook of course is just probably the biggest like
name wise to keep an eye on. Still unsigned at
this point. We'll see where he ends up. Obviously, even
Denver after a year. Yeah, I mean beyond that, you know,
a lot of like we said, until the restricted falls,
it doesn't feel like a lot of these other you know,
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free agency dominoes are gonna fall.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I just gotta wait and see. But that's how it
happens every year. It feels like, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I mean who else the the biggest other names out
there are like Malcolm Brogden, Gary Payton. Second, like, are
we giving Ben Simmons that credit at this point? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Have Ben, let's go.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I don't know. I mean that that's kind of where
we're at. But you know, either way, we'll be keeping
an eye on that. We are definitely in the dark
days this summer. There's no right way around that. If
you if you haven't picked that up by now half
way through this episode, I think you should be getting
it for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I think I think the big thing that's more people
probably care about is like the Luca extension, the Daron
Fox extension. I think Trey Young's up for an extension
like those will be the bigger headlines that we'll see
in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Trade is interesting. I want to see what Atlanta does because,
like I said, I feel like Atlanta has made some
quality moves recently, and I feel like that they've you know,
I feel like they put a decent enough roster around
Trade that I'm kind of intrigued to see what they
can do. You know, Like we said, for for all
of Trey's flaws, I don't really feel like Atlanta has
exactly put him in the best position to succeed either,
(24:23):
and he is such an offensively gifted player that you know,
it's tough. I'm still I'm hesitant to give up on that,
even though there is a part of me that's like, man,
you could pay him a lot of money, and he
got to that conference finals, but he hasn't really been
anywhere near back.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Since, yeah, which is kind of alarming, Like how quickly
that changed, specifically for the Hawks, you know what I mean? Like,
I know it's hard to do it twice, but it's like, yo,
that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
They also shouldn't have been there. We blew it. The
Sixers blew it. We blew it so bad, Like that's
what that is the most probably unforgivable Sixers lost to me,
There is no planet they should have been losing to
that Hawks team, and you will never be able to
tell me otherwise. And they completely vomited all over themselves
(25:11):
in games five and in Game seven, and anyway, he
don't need to rehash that.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
All right?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Who's balling? Who's falling? Our NBA version of the stock
market we always like started good for the bad, So
just to start with you this week, who's balling.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Falling for me? Is let me find it is gonna
go out to Lebron James and his lawyers. Oh okay,
his lawyers are sending a season desist to an AI
company that is apparently making pregnant videos of him. Is
no more.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, listen, man, I don't know what was going I
did see that. I saw the video itself, and it's
hatently absurd. James Harden's in it for some reason. I'm
still trying to figure out what's going on there too. Yeah.
People are weird, man, people are really really weird. Like that,
that's the takeaway from all this is people are really
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really weird.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
The problem is, and here's where I think the issue
lies is like, now that he has sent this, it
wouldn't surprise me if twenty other random people on the
Internet decide to start making the preger videos, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Like, yeah, it's also like you gotta put you people
on notice though, you know, yeah, yeah it might for this,
and like I don't think it's a huge deal, but like,
I don't know. Yeah, it's a little weird and it's
a lot of like it gets into a lot of
questionable things with AI and with right to privacy and
all sorts of other issues like that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, we've talked about that too, was like the fake
post game press conferences where it's it's talking about something
and and it's very obviously AI. But you know, if
you watch it at a at a you know, three
hundred and sixty degree or whatever birds eye view and
you don't like see it up close, you're like, wow,
I can't believe he's saying some of this stuff and.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Breaking news A I was only going to get better too.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh yeah, there are some uh, like I told you,
I said, my whole algorithm is those the bigfoot influencers
that are fake vlogging and for whatever reason, I just
find them hilarious but very obviously AI generated in some
kind of prompt to make him happen. But yeah, it's
(27:32):
I feel like we're just gonna see a lot more
of this kind of stuff until there is some more
I guess, legal clarity as to what's going on, you know,
because like namage, image likeness really comes into play here.
And that's coming from someone that's not a lawyer. You
know you are a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
So yeah, not yeah, buddy, I got we got it.
We'll see, we'll see, we got We got a big,
big test coming up on Tuesday, and Wednesday catch my
drift and then and then maybe after that we can
finally call me a lawyer. But yeah, there's gonna be
I mean, it's gonna get work. AI is caused and
all sorts. It will cause all sorts of rapid legal
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changes like it will in every other industry. Honestly, I mean,
it's not just gonna be a world but like, yeah,
there there are I mean a laundry list of issues
that are coming to play.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I'll have to send you a thing I found where
it was talking about like the cognitive brain function when
using AI for certain things. Oh the study, Yes, that
was bad. And I went and I looked at it
and went, you know, cause I again, I'll admit I
use it a little bit on certain things I feel like.
(28:41):
And this isn't putting anybody on blast. I am very
uncomfortable from a manager position communicating things that are uncomfortable
to my team, if that makes sense, And so a
lot of times what I'll do is I'll say the
unfiltered way I need to say something to AI to
GBT in a way, and it'll be like, can you
help me, like pfasionalize this a little bit to like
(29:03):
not obviously be an issue or still drive home the fact,
but still make it like less mean, if that makes sense.
Sometimes I would be like, just do your damn job.
Obviously I can't say that. So a lot of times
I'll use it to at least help me filter some
words that I'm like, I just need this is what
i want to say. How can I say this without
being an idiot? And and to that what the MIT
(29:27):
was saying, you know, a lot of it was like
you do that, but then you don't retain what it
gives you because it's just giving it to you. And
I would agree because a lot of it's like, oh, yeah,
I got what I want. I'm moving on with my
life now. And that's where like you're saying the issue lies.
It's like, well you didn't learn from that, you just
let AI do it at that point.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, yeah, there's also just the like there's also lines
to where you start making the fake videos or you
start seeing people start to like animate their pictures, you know,
or to like recreate the scene. It's like you start
blurring your cognitive reality a little bit. Is real man?
Well it's kind of like you know, you talk, I mean,
(30:07):
for all the Harry Potter fans, it's like, is that
not what the mirror of errorsat is? Like, yeah, that's it, right,
Like you know you're gonna look at something that's not real,
like it's not I don't I don't know if that
helps you necessarily like process things the way you should.
And like, I don't want to sound like a big
AI hater, I'm really not, Like I I've used a
I two for certain things, like I'm not. There are
(30:29):
plenty of plenty of useful things that it does and
is already doing. But it's like, yeah, there need there
need to be guardrails on it big time, big time.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
For sure, for sure, and and uh, you know there's
a bunch of other videos that I'll have to send
you that I I've went down. But but I think it'll,
like you were saying, it'll just become more and more
integrated into.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Our lives and it already is right.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Right, But I mean like it's gonna like, dude, it's
gonna get to a point like you know, I don't
even know, it's gonna get to a point where it's
it's is I would say, we're like tip of the
Iceberg type stuff, you know, what I mean, I'm like
jokingly was was I gave it my fantasy football team
(31:11):
and like gave it. The problem was it was like
a year behind in terms of the stats of the
stuff it gave me. You could tell was kind of off,
but like it fully gave me like, Okay, this is
what I think about your team. You definitely need some
more running backs. Maybe you compare this guy and this
guy and some of your picks with this to go after.
And it was literally giving me like my friend's team,
Like your friend has this and they have a lot
(31:33):
of running backs, so they might be willing to move away.
Like it was. It was very interesting to see that.
But to the MIT part is like my brain didn't
do all that, so you don't get the reward of
having your brain go through those processes. And for example,
if you're a kid and you're learning this stuff, you
don't learn it, learn it. You just got the answer
(31:54):
moved on, if that makes sense. So that's the part
that's concerning because I know some people. I've been seeing
a lot of people saying like homeschool your kid and
just use chat GPT, and I'm like, well, maybe don't
see that.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Bad idea dude, especially too from the like socialization aspect
and like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
There's a whole other level of problem that we don't
necessarily need to go down on a bat.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Well, listen, we got a long off season. We can
address that next podcast, so listen, especially especially of news
moves at the pace and move this week. All right,
balling for me this week is Bradley Beal already given
an assist his teammate Chris Paul. Usually it's christ in
the assists, but yeah, Bradley Beal giving up number three
so that Chris Paul can wear it in his return
to the Clippers. Of course they are now officially teammates.
(32:40):
Bradley Beal's were number three for his career, you know,
just being a good teammate. Chris has warned a little
bit longer giving it up, no questions asked. So yeah,
real classy move there from Bradley Beal.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
My I'll just jump right into falling. Obviously. We're very
happy for them to figure out their numbers situation because
that was you know, let's be my fallen and I'm
very excited to get to this is uh a situation
that has happened after a woman leads some d ms
(33:13):
that are exposing Dangelo Russell for cheating.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Nick has chimed, oh I bet he has. I'm sure
he has.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Nick Young said, God answers all prayers. You know.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Now God answers no.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But you know, damn well.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
The ward said, lead me out of this, Nick, this
is between you two. He said, lead me. I don't
evokee me for this.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Hey, hey, you know I had nothing to do with
this one. I want to stay far away from that.
But you knew the second that happened. We needed to
get Nick Young's thoughts on this situation.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Uh yeah, yeah, you knew it was coming. There's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I love how that is still a thing. That is
still a thing that comes up.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Right, which, like again Nick Young, it's like at the
end of the day, like Buddy's fall, like Dangelo did
you crazy? But like, yeah, that was wild man, wild
oh man. I should have I should have done mine first.
Am I'm so lame compared to that now. I mean
my fallen, my falling is Ricky Counsel the fourth because
the Sixers waived him. It's more about this press release too, right, So,
(34:23):
like Ricky's been in the G League for a while,
and he's been on the team for two seasons, and
like he's like not not a quote full grown, homegrown guy,
if you will, but like, yeah, he's been, Like people
have had some like we were excited to see him
get some minutes last year. Anyway, his press release is
two sentences long. It just literally says Philadelphia seventy six
Ers president of basketball Operations Darryl Morey, and now today
(34:44):
that the team has waived Ricky Council. The fourth Council
Fourth uppeared in one hundred and five games over two seasons,
with the Sixers, averaging six point seven, two point five,
one point one in fourteen six point minutes. That's it.
It's like what it was like borderline where I was
like something happened behind the scene here, Like should I
be worried a little bit? Like this is kind of
it's a little brief, but yeah, either way, he's been. Uh,
(35:06):
Ricky was kind of a G League guy for a
little bit. So I'm sure he gets it picked up
somewhere else, Like I think, if nothing else, will be
playing in the G or unless he goes overseas well.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You know, I don't want to offer any advice, but
you know, if you do, go to chat GPT and
ask it to give you a four sentence summary, it
will give you a four summary of what you're trying
to say. So you could have had a longer press
release and made it now, I.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Would have used all the water in the village though
somewhere like man we got we would drain somebody's river
do that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So uh yeah, I mean obviously bumm to see him go.
He was he was a yeah, I definitely want to
see him still get some basketball playing in so.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Well, like I he never really took the leap that
one or to last year with that bigger minutes like
that is unfortunate. Yeah, I don't know either way.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
The top spot for the guys that that are deserving.
You know that you said he'll get.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
A two way somewhere, and I mean honestly like the
other reality too is once Justin Edwards emerged last year,
I think it was kind of over there, like six
Ers re signed Edwards this offseason.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yep, yep, you know so.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, writing kind of on the wall. But all right,
should we play some immaculate grid?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
We shall play some immaculate grid. Now I picked a
different date because the one for today was very uh
like category driven if that. Yes, so it's a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I feel like Saturday is their category days.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, so I switched it. I changed it to a
day that was like two days ago or something like that.
So if you already played it, let me know.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I have not as much recently only because of Yeah.
I definitely even played this one only because of like
just barb rep like reality is that like I usually
I for while was playing daily and have been mostly
like all through school I was and stuff too. I
definitely this past like two weeks off a little bit,
so this will be a good one for sure. And again, hey,
(37:02):
you can always watch the Immaculate Brids on YouTube. Just
search driving to sh NBA podcast For the podcast listeners
are columns this week, from left to right, we've got
the Sixers, the Clippers, and all rookie team arose. From
top to bottom, we got the Magic, the Thunder and
the Pistons. So just anybody that jumps off page for
you right away.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well right off the rip. I know Tobias Harris works
for Piston Sixers. A Drummond also would work there.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Tobias Harris works in four places on this spoort Tobias
Harris works for Magic Sixers, Magic Clippers, Sixers, Pistons and Pistons. Clippers.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, I feel like he's going to behind high in
every single one of those too, which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I feel like the least that he'd be is is
Magic Clippers. Like he's on the Pistons now and he
was on the Pistons before and pretty good there. The
Sixers will be just because I mean that's where he's
bitten for the past few years. Yeah, going back to
see my bad. Who who else are you saying for? Uh?
For Sixers and Pistons. I know Jeremy Grant works there.
(38:14):
Iverson works there too.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Did Cannon do both? Or was that.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Cannon was on the Bulls. I don't know if he
was on the Pistons.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Okay, I thought he was. I know, Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Drummond who you mentioned? Yeah, Drummond definitely works Therefore, ever
go to the Pistons, I don't think he did. Oh god,
he might have, like like, but I'm not he did.
He's definitely on the Pelicans at one point. No works
there and who might be low only because he was
only on the Sixers so like half a season. Dude,
(38:48):
Alec Burks. Alec Burks works for Sixers and Pistons.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait, there's a shooter on the
Pistons now that was drafted by the Sixers, right, is
Dario there?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
No, he just got there. I don't think she was there.
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
No, there was a there's a shooter. I want to
I swear to Landry Shammitt is shammit?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
There?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Maybe Shaman's who I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
There's some sham It's been everywhere, dude.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, there was a shooter from the six Ers and
one Oh you know who wears for Sixers and okay
see New Orleans know, well.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, the Sixers. Okay, see there's quiet. I mean Isaiah
Joe works there, Joe Mike Muscal works there.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I would be down that. If you want to do
okaf for Sixers and Pistons, I'd be down. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Would go there. I don't think he did or not.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I think he did. He was on the Pistons that
recent team, right we're talking about no, yes, yes, yes,
not a Mecca Mecca was never a Sixer.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I know.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I just maket Mecca though, yukon legend.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, point eight for that.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Did he go right after I don't remember where. Maybe
it was right after the Sixers. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I'm trying to remember where he got traded too. I
feel like there I thought there was one in between. Oh,
yeah he went to he did he actually went to
the Pelicans before the Pistons. Yeah, he went to the
Pelicans right after Sixers Nets. No, he went to the
Nets after nets.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah. He had twenty six games with Brooklyn and then
he had the two seasons of the Pelicans. He had
twenty seven games with Detroit, and then he had one
game with Indie last year. I know he's in the G,
but he did play one game with Indy last year
at the end of the season.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Okay, okay, okay. Uh. Do you think norlans know Well
will be high for OKC seventy six ers.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Probably not. I don't, just because, like I don't think
people associate him with Oka. See.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, do you want to try that then?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, I'd be fine with that. Well, a little more.
I thought a little bit he worked for he would
have worked for six Ers Pistons two. I think, oh interesting, really, yeah,
Sixers Magic. I mean, I'm trying to think of, like
some of the more obvious one, I mean, Markel Faults
is recent. If you want a bench guy, Jonathan Simmons's recent,
(41:15):
Williams Michael Carter, Williams works, Booch works, dude, if you
want a good one, who's a little more of a
legend low key, but he was here at the end
of his career, dude, Jason Richardson works.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
Richardson, I like Richardson. Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
We haven't done that.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
He was a pro, I think it, uh not, he
was just recently. He went he was the Sixers, he
went to the Bucks. What was his name?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Not not Ilias Sola?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Right, he would work, though, wouldn't he?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Is who I was thinking of. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
There is another one who I feel who I You're right?
Who I am trying to that was there relatively recently. Yeah,
either way, though, we should do j rich We don't.
We don't use j rich that.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Uh oh, Jason, there you go. Oh my god. There's
a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, all right, for do we want to do Tobias
then just for for magic and clipper Clippers. I feel
like JJ Reddick is gonna be the highest for that combo.
For which one for Magic and Clippers? Gore tot works
two low key Mark definitely works.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
There's somebody else who I feel like was in that
vein who I was thinking of those? I mean, I
think Turcle you just mentioned. I'm pretty sure turkle was
on the Clippers for a year.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Two was on the Clippers for a year.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
U you know, I don't know who's gonna be lower.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Out of.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Oh no, I lost them?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Hold on, are you talking about like turkleu? Or are
you talking about for.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
For Clippers for clippers? Okay? See wait which one?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
You're okay?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
See still No, I'm in Orlando.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Oh I was, I'm working ahead. I'm sorry, I'm working ahead. Mh.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I mean Detroit and the Clippers. I'm not rid.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Where did Mario or Hisonia go.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Uh Orlando the Knicks?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Did he ever end up on the Clippers?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I don't know, man, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Let's do Tobias. We gotta put somebody on the board either.
Let's do Tobias. So let's do guartt They'll be they'll
be lower than JJ Reddick will for.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Sure, let's do. Gort Gorgot will be low. I feel
like Tobias is like weirdly popular.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
He works, like I said, he works everywhere with his grid.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I know, let's go.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
It's okay, all right. I mean Thunder and Clippers, the
obvious tour, Russ and Harden.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
You know who else is really obvious?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
S g A oh yeah, yeah yeah. And Paul George,
Paul George a lot of yeah, a lot of history
with that one.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yep uh. I think Serge of Bacca works.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
I think Obacca works too.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I think works. He'll be low.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I'd be fine with Ebacca there, he'll may be low.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I forgot about Serge Ibacca. Dude, yeah, two percent less.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Nice all right. Pistons and Clippers, I mean the the
big obvious one is Blake Griffin.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, Blake, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I'm trying to think. I don't think. I don't think Billups.
I'm trying to remember if Billups is that we are
on the Clipper. It's like real late in his career.
But I don't think. I'm I'm not one hundred percent there.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Mm hmm. There is a shooter. There's a shooter. That
was on both teams. He's a good shooter too, He's
a three point shooter.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
It's not Canard, is it?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Oh? It is Canard?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Oh, I mean we do Canard.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
But he'll be high, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah? Probably, But I mean he won't be high as.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Blake No or Tobias.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh yeah, that's right. We got to forget about We
got to use Tobias somewhere. We gotta, we got to.
We mentioned him so many times in this scread. I
feel like we have to.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
I'll take that. I did not think it was gonna
be that that low.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I think Pistons and Magic is the only place where
uh not Pistons of Magic, Magic Clippers, I think is
the only place where it's a little lower. But all right,
all rookie team, Magic, Thunder and Pistons. So I mean
Piston's a chalky? Answer is kid?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, Kate? Do they have to be the all rookie
team on that team?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Think?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
So with a non care does not need to be
the same season?
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Wait, when paired with a non team category does not
need to be in the Oh no, So yeah, if
there were two stats that they wouldn't need to be
in the same season.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Okay, okay, okay. I was about to say, like, wait,
then we have a lot of people to work with.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I mean magic all rookie team. My initial thoughts are Penny.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Shack right, who Big Carol?
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Oh yeah, Big Carrol. I thought you said a flollow
For a second, I hearn a home like yeah too.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
But Howard Dwight right.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Oh yeah Dwight for sure, I think yeah, Paulo, I mean,
I mean Franz too, honestly, like Franz might be.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
The answer probably is the answer. Yeah, do you want
to go Franz?
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I think so yeah. I feel pretty comfortable saying Franz.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Not to be the lowest out of all them, right, yeah,
six percent we'll take Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah he had to. I would say he definitely made
the rookie team. That's a hilarious picture for Franz too.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So okay, see, I would assume KD. I would assume Westbrook.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Dude, if you want to do an okay see one
that I think would work, He's probably not like he's
not there anymore because the same here as Franz. Dude,
Josh Gitty, Josh Gitty, I think made all.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Rookie He was there for sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
he was, like, dude, what e y ah? All right,
there we go one.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
I mean I guess yeah, you got a lot of
guys if you do the Sonics guys too. All right,
Piston team, I mean, Cade's the obvious answer.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I don't a bigger name.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I mean maybe Drummond and his rookie year. Did I know?
O Sar didn't? Did Grant Hill?
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Who's the other guy that's on the team right now
that made a name for himself in the last playoff
this year's playoff run story? So last name starts with
an ass Oh, I want to look at their roster
so bad.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
You're not talking about, like I say, a Steward, are you?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, I don't think so. I don't think I am.
I was.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
I mean, I say, Stuart's been there for he's been
there for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
No, No, he's younger guy, but he was he he
came out in the playoffs. I can't remember his name now.
I don't think it was Stuart. Mmmm okay.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I mean otherwise, Pistons, like, I mean, some of the
bat like Isaiah had to have made an all rookie team.
I mean Grant Hill definitely made an All Rookie team.
I mean I don't think. Yeah, Bhillips wasn't there as
a rookie. Hamilton wasn't there as a rookie. I mean, yeah,
you met Drummond. Honestly, Drummond definitely feel like made it
(49:39):
all rookie team.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Reggie Jackson's no, Reggie started.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Yeah, I'm trying to think, dude, Like, so do we
think Greg Monroe made an All Rookie team?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Greg Monroe?
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Oh my god, because it was like him and Drummond.
But like, I don't know if Greg Monroe is good
enough to make an all rookie team, but he might
have been.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Do you want to just do Drummond?
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Then let's just do Drummond? Just keep it easy, Yeah, Kate.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I feel like will be the highest answer there. All right,
all right, so let's scroll down. We will see the
most popular answers.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
There's twenty three answers in that all rookie team. I'm
curious to see who that is, Kate, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah, all right, So for most popular answers for sixers,
Magic Markel Foltz for we called it there, we go
for Clippers and Magic JJ Reddick for Magic All Rookie Team,
Paulo Bancaro for Sixers and Thunder, James Harden for six
or for Thunder and Clippers, Russell Westbrook for Thunder, All
Rookie Team, Kevin Durant for Sixers and Pistons, Alan Iverson
for Pistons and Clippers, Blake Griffin and for Pistons All
(50:41):
Rookie Team, Kate Cunningham. Not really too many big surprises there.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Greg Monroe did work.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Did he? Oh that's sick. That's good to know.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Brandon Night worked as well.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Oh that's a good one too.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Wow, Brandon is another one. Andre Drummond, Isaiah Stewart Okay,
it was Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Stewart did work. Okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Sadik Bay and Isaiah Stewart made it the same year actually,
and then we got Aide Jade and Ivy and Jalen Durned.
Oh Jaden Ivy dude, come on yeah, team now, yeah
we should have gotten that one.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, all right, our answers. We want to flash back
one last.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I want to see ok sees and Orlando's one last
time because that was there's a little good amount of
people there.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, So for Sixers and Magic. We got Jason Richardson
for Magic and Clippers. Marchine wore tot for Magical Rookie Team,
Franz Wagner for Sixers and Thunder, and nerlans the Well
for Thunder and Clippers. Sergei Baka Underall Rookie Team, Josh
Giddy for Sixers and Pistons, julil okafor for Pistons and Clippers,
Tobias Harris and for Pistons All Rookie Team. Andre Drummond.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Damn it, damn it, dammit. I missed. I missed the
golden opportunity and anybody listening is.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Gonna knowl for Team. Yeah, that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Of Orlando, Jamiir Nelson made it too good.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
And Mike.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Matt Harpering if you want to go back a little bit, Wow.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Okay Matt Harping. Yeah, I would have never, never, never,
in zillion years. I mean I remember Matt, but like
I would have never got him on an all rookie team.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
And on okase if you don't want to count Seattle,
actually Russ would be the first one on okayc not Seattle.
Kevin Durant counts as Seattle, Jeff Green. If you go
back a little bit, YEP for Seattle, you got James Harden,
Steve Adams, Josh Giddy, Jalen Williams, Wallace and yeah, Chett
(52:36):
and Wallace from this year.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Okay, oh yeah, case of Wallace from this year. That
would be a good one. So thank you everybody for
listening to this episode of Driving NBA podcast. You appreciate
you guys as always, leave some review on iTunes good
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Speaker 2 (52:51):
Us and we're on YouTube driv ed Ish NBA. You
can subscribe and get notifications done new episodes are coming out.
You can watch video versions of the podcast there. I
think we've done my dances for today, so why don't
we dance Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Seeing a star side? Okay, we're all.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Right, all right? I think they could do
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