August 23, 2025 • 66 mins
WWE Hall of Famer Devon Dudley and Duke Loves Rasslin are back with another can't-miss episode! This week, the guys dive into everything from the possibility of extraterrestrial life to the legendary rivalry between the Dudley Boyz and the Hardy Boyz.
Going Viral: Devon and Duke kick things off by thanking the fans for making last week's episode a viral sensation, generating two of the top ten pro wrestling stories of the week.
The Dudleyz vs. The Hardy Boyz: Devon shares his thoughts on the epic rivalry and gets serious about a potential final showdown with the Hardys at TNA's Bound For Glory pay-per-view.
Aliens? Devon gets an update on the latest space news and gives his surprising take on whether intelligent life exists beyond our planet.
Get Well, Brian: The fellas close out the episode by sending well wishes and respect to former WWE Superstar Brian Jossie, also known as Abraham Washington, who is now home after a recent health scare.
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Brothers and sisters, welcome back.
Welcome back to another excitingedition of the Devon and the
Duke Podcast. This is a limited edition series
hosted by your main man. Duke loves wrestling.
And of course, the five time Hall of Famer himself, the man
who is a YouTube sensation across the nation, Mr. Devon
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Dudley. What's going on there, Devon?
What's going on, man? Hey, I don't know about the
YouTube sensation, not yet. It's getting there.
I don't know if I'm there yet. Listen, most people can't just
just relaunch a channel and, and, and have the kind of
traction that, that you've been getting, man.
Come on now. Don't be humble speak.
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Speaking of that, congratulations.
Now we're, we're what, at least 2 episodes in a row where you've
gone viral? And from last week's episode,
you went viral on 2 separate topics.
The first one was Dixie Carter and burying the hatchet with
her. That, that through the roof.
Everybody covered that. And then also what you said
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about Stephanie McMahon. So I don't know, man, you, you,
you just, you just can't seem tostay out of the, the dirt sheets
these days, huh? The whole thing with Dixie, I
mean, there was no secret. I, I mentioned that months ago
and how it got resurfaced again was, you know, to that point was
beyond me. In other words, I had said
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before I had saw a Dixie that, you know, things happen for a
reason and you know, it builds your character when there's
things against you in life. And when you can get past that
adversity and move on and becomebetter from it, that means that
God put that in your life for a reason and embedded you.
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And I just felt that it embeddedme.
You know, I might not have understood it at the time, but,
you know, now looking back at it, it better than me.
So wasn't too, you know, angry or upset about that anymore at
that point. And it was great to see Dixie
and to be able to, you know, talk and laugh and communicate
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and talk a little bit about the old times.
You know, it was great to do that.
And then the whole thing with Stephanie McMahon.
I mean, come on, guys, really, you guys there.
She's really wanted to reprint this crap again.
For what? What are you going to get out of
it? It's not like I'm going to sit
here and make a mistake and say something stupid again.
I mean, God, I had back surgery and this and that and had a
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stroke and this and that. You know, I use my words a
little differently. Come on, man.
But write something else. Talk about something else more
interesting than me messing up aword that I shouldn't have used
when referring to Stephanie McMahon in terms of my
appreciation for it. Come on, guys, stop.
Enough of this already. You know, I'm sure Stephanie and
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Triple H, anybody else in that company, if they saw it on your
dirt sheet or skim by, I'm like,OK, no stupid shit that happened
three years ago and you're stilltalking about it.
Come on. That's why we call you guys the
National Enquirer, because you keep harvesting over crap.
It doesn't even matter anymore. So I mean, come on, seriously,
is that the only way you can getpeople to look at your stories
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and say, Oh well? Yvonne said that he used the
word infatuation as opposed to admire.
Come on, man. Come on.
Stop. I I, I think, well, with the
Stephanie thing, I, they finallygot it right because previous
reporting, they seem to run withtheir own narrative.
Oh, he's infatuated, he's in love.
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Oh, he's going to, he's going tochallenge Booker a, a, a Triple
H to A to a match and they're going to somebody's going to win
Stephanie. You know that they were all into
the sensationalism of that nonsense, but.
Men listen. Right Stephanie on a pole match,
they thought that y'all were going to.
Come on, man, You know, This is why.
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This is why us as wrestlers sit back and laugh at all of this
dumb stuff. And we tell people don't believe
the dirt sheets because they're not right at all.
And then when we start naming the dirt sheets that aren't
right, then you get mad at us. And you want to, you know, I'll
sue you. You know, you mess with my
business. No, you're, you're you're
ruining trying to ruin my reputation when you don't have
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to for no reason whatsoever. You're trying to put shit out.
That's not even true. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Now on the other front, on the on the Dixie front, you, you
spoke of her more positively than most people do when they
mentioned Dixie. So I think that the, the
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interest in that what you said really centered around, oh,
somebody's actually saying something positive about her for
a change, you know what I mean? So.
You know, the funny part about it is I got something that would
go viral again, but I ain't going to say.
It. Oh no.
Oh no. I got to say because me and
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Dixie laugh about we, every timewe talked about this certain
situation, we would just laugh about it.
And we were like, man, if only people were only knew.
And I but I ain't going to bringit up all right.
So we, we're going to, we're going to have to.
I'll bring it up off the air because I was surprised when we
saw each other and we started reconnecting, you know, me and
her husband and her and Hope. And she brought it up and I was
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like, oh, wow, you remember that?
She goes, hell yeah, dude. She goes, I got to find that
footage. I was like, yeah, when you find
it, send it to me and let me know.
That's an interesting thing because I did some digging
around and I noticed on Dixie's Internet Movie Database page
IMDb, which you have your own aswell, but then the first photo
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other than her, her main photo is a photo of you and her.
Right. Which I thought was very, very
interesting, you know? Well, it could have been because
I mean, I never really went public and said anything that I
was, you know, upset with her orthe company at the time.
It was only until I got back to WWE was when I started in 2015,
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I started, you know, saying how upset and, and displeased I was
with that, with that regime at the time.
Because at that time, no idea. I was, you know, I was ever
going to go back there and I as far as I was concerned, I was
back in WWE and that was there. I wasn't going back there.
So I pretty much said what I hadto say in, in social media about
it. But you know, and then again,
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now look at how many years lateron what, 10 years later and you
know, I'm doing Bound for Glory,you know, me and Bubba, you
know, the last time that we're going to see, you know, the
Hardy Boys in the ring with us. So, you know, it's, it's weird,
but I, I, I don't even, I've never noticed that because I
never looked at Dixie's page. But you know, me, me, Dixie and
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her husband just started laughing.
We started cracking up at certain things that people say
and things like that. It's, it's, it's just hilarious
to some of us how these dirt sheet writers say what they say
to get people to look at their page or, you know, click on to
their story. And we, we just eat up.
Sometimes shit is made-up, you know, because we know that if we
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make it up, you guys were printed.
And then when the fact and then when the truth comes out about
what really went down with the story, then you guys look like
the idiots because what you printed and what you swore to be
the truth because of what you heard wasn't the truth. 100
percent, 100%. What were you surprised?
Because I, you know, we, we talkabout analytics and, and, and
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viral. And I'm always telling you what
man, your brand is doing really,really well.
It's like, it's, it's hot right now.
But I sent you a screenshot of just a taste of all the
different articles, and then I sent you a couple of articles
because you asked for it. Were you surprised you were
getting that type of press last week?
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Off of Dixie and Stephanie. Well, just in general.
I mean, let's be honest man, youwere Devon Dudley as a as a
topic was a top ten topic last week.
And yet, no, I was surprised when you told me about it.
You text me because you were outwith your lady and you out for
dinner and you texted me about it and told me what was going on
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because I, I don't really look at social media like that to
know who's trending and who's not.
I wouldn't even know where to goto find that out.
So when you text me that, I was like, oh, OK, I was, I was kind
of taken back by it. I was like, I remember when you
text me, I go, oh man, what the hell?
What are they? Saying what did I do this time?
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Well, what did I do this time? Damn, I'm like, I'm not even
wrestling no more and you guys are still trying to make me
relevant in some negative way whatsoever.
But you know, it is what it is man.
It is what it is with these guys.
I I just to all the wrestlers out there, because this is the
thing, a lot of the wrestlers, alot of the indie guys listen to
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the show, which I appreciate. And you know, I've interviewed
them through the years, so they know that this is friendly to
them. But for you younger guys, Devon
Dudley, you know, 30 plus years in the business and he's still
topical, he's still getting coverage.
What he says still matters to the point where websites know
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that he's newsworthy. What are you going to do in
order to make yourself that relevant in 10:15, 20-30 years?
Just think about that, folks. I tell you what you can do.
Make a mistake and use the wrongword.
When you're returned to Stephanie McMahon, how you
admire her. I'll keep you going.
That's one way that's. One way to do it.
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And then you have a bunch of people going there.
Triple H is going to kill you because, you know, you talk
about Stephanie McMahon and thenwhen you and then it's funny
because when you hear what was said and how you and how, how I
said it, because I, I, I listened to it like two or three
times, you know, after it had trended the first time, I was
like, don't see how that was taken out of content, but OK.
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And how they just ran with it. OK, ran.
Not a problem. They ran, not a problem.
They, they pulled the Usain Bolt.
They they, they ran the whole race with it, Boy, Yeah, they
did, you know. But Speaking of Triple H, there
was a, a, a photo that was circulated.
Triple H and Stephanie were on ayacht doing a family vacation.
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Yes, I saw that. And he had his shirt off and
Triple H quite frankly, looks like a very fit person his age,
right? That's the way that I
interpreted. It's like damn, when I when I
get his age I I want to look like that hopefully.
You know what I mean? He he, he has a dad bought.
We could call it that, but it's a fit.
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Dad bought. But these humanoids have been
all over the Internet talking trash about how Triple H looks
physically now. Oh, look at him.
He's out of shape. And this Now mind you, this is a
man with a pacemaker. And not only that, let me ask
you a question. How old is he?
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I know he's. He's he's, he's gotta be because
if I'm 53, he's at least got to be.
Yeah, no, I know he's 50, but yeah, I know he's older than me,
but he's only he's a few years old and he says he's 5657 maybe.
You're right. I mean, you're right.
He just turned 56. Right 56 so please show me the
average 56 year old that even remotely looks like Triple H
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right now they. Don't.
They don't. They don't.
So come on, the man is 56 years old.
Do you want him? How can he possibly keep looking
like he did in the attitude ever?
You can't. It's almost physical and
physically impossible. Not to mention, like he said, he
has a pacemaker. Leave the man alone.
At least he looks good for 56 years old.
I dare you to find. I dare you to look in the mirror
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and tell me you look as good as half.
You look as good as Triple H does, because you probably
don't. These idiots that are saying
that, I guarantee you if they'retaking off their shirt, you
ain't winning no bodybuilding contest.
Trust me. At least Triple H has pictures,
videos and all of that to show what he did when he was younger
and as he got older, he still looks great.
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So, you know, I mean, again, forget all those people that are
saying negative crap about him. And again, I'm not defending him
because I have a legends deal orI want to be back with the
company. Trust me, I don't want to
wrestle for WWE again. Them guys hit way too damn hard
now. So I see stuff that they do in
that ring right now. I'm like, man, I'm glad I
retired. So wait, you don't.
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You don't want Gunter. You don't want Gunter to give
you one of those chops? Is that what you're saying?
Listen, I'm afraid of Gunter Chop me.
My heart will stop. And you see the after bath, the
people all black and blue, everyafter every match with him,
Jesus. Listen 25 to 35 year old Devon
Absolutely. All day, all night. 53 year old
Devon? No, no, I wouldn't even want to
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take a chop from Rick Flair. And you know he'd lay it in
Jesus. You're.
A flair will let flair will lay it in, trust me.
But I've been in the ring with flair, so I know.
That that which what an honor that that is incredible that is.
But but you know, if you look atthat photo of Triple H and you
look at his left chest, you can literally see the outline of
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pacemaker. So you want a man who literally
almost died as his whole body was shutting down?
You want a man like that to do what?
Pump himself full of full of drugs to to be all muscular to
just to satisfy your weird cravings out there?
Folks, come on. Stop.
Stop. You hit the nail.
You hit the nail right on the button, because that's what it
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is. Crazy.
Listen, yesterday is gone. It's not here anymore.
You know, as we get older, Father time gets up to all of
us, but here's the deal for the time.
He might have caught up the triple HA little bit, but Triple
H is staying ahead of the game and looks still looks great
looks great. So so please no plastic surgery,
no nothing. The man's having a good time.
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He's running a major company like the WWE and you know what
else do you want from this man? How you know this is this is it
makes me so angry the way peopleare.
It's like these we give our blood, sweat and tears to the
fans and to the business and youmake stupid remarks like that.
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You you say things like that. What else more do you want from
us? OK, at least you know Triple H
is still a part of the business and still making headlines,
doing what he's doing for the WWE and you know, just wrestling
in general. He's still still on top of his
game. He may not be in the ring
anymore, but he's outside the ring making things happen.
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People just get a life man. Seriously just get AF in life
and stop the nonsense already. And, and he's out there on a
nice yacht with it with his gorgeous wife and her in her
bikini and all that good stuff. Listen.
Listen, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this.
He's on the he's on the yacht with his wife and his family.
I'm sorry. Show me in your life where
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you're on a yacht with your wifeand kids, enjoying life and have
success and money that I had that that man has.
You know, next time Triple H goes out there with Stephanie
and his kids on a big yacht likethat, he should be.
He take off his shirt, hold up his middle fingers and go F you,
you don't like it, Check my bankaccount.
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F you. I love it.
I love it. You know, Speaking of, since
you're all fired up now, we got it.
We got to keep this going. Now one of your good friends,
someone that you'd known pretty much her entire career, Trinity
Fatu AKA Naomi, has just made a big announcement that she and
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Big Jim, Jimmy USO are expectinga child.
So what do you say that Devon? How do you feel about Naomi
being pregnant? Well, let me just say this, you
know, hopefully I get the words right because I, I love both of
them. I'm, I'm very happy and very,
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very, very happy for both of them.
You know, again, couldn't happencouldn't couldn't happen to two
better people. I mean, I know she has wanted to
been been I know she wanted to become a mom for a long time,
but she put her career, you know, she put the baby on hold
for a while, having a baby on hold so she can have her career
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and things like that. So, you know, I'm very happy
that they're finally going to get that.
Is it wrong timing? The only one that can answer
that is Naomi, you know, becauseshe was just rebranding herself
and just really, really coming out there in her own and just
really doing it. The heal character, which I
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didn't think she would be able to pull off.
And I say that because she's such a nice person.
Trinity is is a phenomenal person.
I mean, she's she's got a heart of gold.
She's a sweetheart. She's she's just a genuinely
nice person and people like thatis very hard to go from a baby
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face to a heel because you know that there's such a good person.
You just can't believe that theywould be that type of heel.
But you know, it just proves that what she can do for the
business in terms of the way sheacted as a heel.
She made me believe it at some point that maybe there was a
little bit of that in Naomi. But, you know, she, she did a
great job. And, you know, I almost would
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have liked to have seen her maybe put this on hold for a
little longer because I was really interested and seeing
where the character was going togo and what she was going to do
with everything that was going on.
But, you know, God called and said, Nope, Nope, we're giving
you a baby. And Big Jim was like, let me
help out. And, and he sure did.
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He sure did and I think she saidthat best in her promo.
I forgot what she said, but she made reference to it.
You know, and again, I'm happy for those guys.
I'm happy for them. God, I'm happy for them.
You know, they're going to starttheir family.
They're going to have their their child, their first child.
And you know, man, hey, you never know, it could be like
another Becky Lynch. You know where she goes away.
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She announces that she's pregnant and she had the title
and all of that. She goes away, she coming back
and she, I think. That's exactly how it's going to
go. I'll, I'll tell you, Devon, one
of the things that I was concerned about when you, you
dedicate your time in this, in this space to interviewing
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people and doing real interviewsand really getting to the heart
of who people are and what's going on and what have you.
You really pay attention to the things that they say, especially
the, the challenges that they have in life.
And let's not forget that not that long ago, Trinity had to
take some time off from wrestling entirely because she
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had some issues with, I think she had like a cyst on her
ovaries or something like that. There were some issues there,
right? And that could complicate
things. OK, yeah, I didn't.
I didn't know that. Oh yeah, Oh, yeah, She, she was
dealing with that. Stuff.
I didn't know that. She was dealing with that stuff.
She put it out there after the fact.
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She explained after the fact what it was.
So I'm not, I'm not breaking anynews there.
But my point is, if you, if you know anybody who's had to go
through that type of stuff, it'sserious business man.
And we're talking about a lady here.
We're talking about a woman potentially not being able to
bear children is devastating. And it's really a sensitive
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topic. So you got to be careful with
people. I was very disappointed and, and
the, the inquiries out there, oh, why did, why did she, why
did she not make it to, to raw the other day?
And oh, is she pregnant? Is she pregnant?
It's like, Hey, be careful with that.
Because for somebody who's gone through that medically being
pregnant and, and, and, and going through with a pregnancy
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is, is a big challenge. It's a big challenge and it's
not an easy Rd. man. So they're not going to announce
unless they're really sure, first of all.
And second of all, there's a lotof precautions that have to be
put in place just to make sure that everyone stays healthy
throughout the process and stufflike that.
Folks, we are not entitled to knowing the full medical scope
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of these performers. It's none of our business.
If they want to share it with us, great.
But to be speculating and digging and prodding and
demanding, it really kind of pissed me off, to be honest with
you, Devon, You know what I mean?
People acting as if they're entitled to know if she's
pregnant or not. It's crazy to me, you know?
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I don't know why they I don't. I really don't know why they
feel that they should know. It's none of your business
whether she is or not. Why can't that?
I just, I don't understand. I'm, I'm really trying to figure
out this world. I really am, because it just
makes no sense to me. It just makes no sense.
You feel entitlement. Why?
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It's like, why? Why do you feel entitled?
Like you need to know. You don't need to know, Jack.
Mind your goddamn business and leave it alone, you know?
And, and, and again, I mean it, she had fibroids.
That's what it was. She had fibroids and she had to
have surgery on that. That's very painful.
It's devastating again, because you're you're essentially told
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you're probably not going to be able to have kids as a result of
a condition like that. You know what I mean?
If that's the And if that's the case, then think about it.
Now she's having a baby miracle.I can't be more happy, happier
for any occasion about that all the time.
Yeah. You know, people are told that
they'll never have kids and, andthings like that and all of a
sudden, damn. Yep, it's true.
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It's true that that's another reason why, you know, I stay
away from the whole, well, how come you're not pregnant or when
are you going to have kids? I stay away from that stuff,
man. I stay away from that stuff.
I don't talk to people that way because again, you don't know
what people are dealing with, you know what I mean?
So you so you just got to leave that alone.
But that's a miracle, man. And, and, and God bless the both
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of them and it soon to be the three of them.
It's awesome, awesome stuff there.
And I know when she comes back, she can be better than ever
because I, I just watched Becky Lynch on Smackdown get a, a
amazing ovation because they were in Ireland.
She got an amazing ovation. And then she managed to turn the
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crowd against her because she's a heel and she put all of the
all the the, the babyface heat onto Tiffany Stratton.
And I was saying to my lady as we were watching, I was like,
look at the skill that Becky Lynch has where she's able to in
her own home country that hardlyever gets WWE live programming.
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To be able to have the crowd loving you and loving on you and
all that stuff. And then you're able to turn
them against you just to put over your opponent.
That's pretty fantastic. You know, that's pretty
fantastic. So I'm expecting nothing less
from from Naomi when she comes back, but wish her she's 20
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weeks pregnant too, man. So that means that, you know,
some of these matches that she'shad over the past couple of
months that she, she, she had the baby in there while she's,
she's banging and bumping and all that stuff, you know.
Listen, she can tell the baby when it comes born, when she can
tell the baby when you know the baby's first born.
Listen, I was up there kicking ass when I had you in my belly.
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I don't play. I'm telling you right now.
Was the baby already performed that summer slip?
I'm pregnant. The baby already performed at
Summer Slam. They're already a superstar.
First match ever at Summer Slam.Baby and baby and mom at summer
slam. That's a first.
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
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That's good stuff, man. That's good stuff.
Now listen, word on the street is that you have an apology to
give, so I'm going to give you some room here.
Brian from Rest OK, You know, wehad some issues in the past,
those things that were said and come to find out that the words
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that were said didn't come from Brian.
And I was very disturbed by where I found out, when I found
out where it didn't come from. But again, no need to talk about
that. I will say this, you know,
apology. All right, So, oh, that's my
son. So he's upset too, the baby
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sitting up here next to me. But no, but you know, you know,
my, you know, my apologies go out to Brian.
But Brian understood why? Because, you know, when things
were asked of him, of who said what about me and, and anybody
that was involved in it, basically, you know, he didn't
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want to say anything. He wanted to keep quiet because
it was quite disturbing where the comments came from.
But, and when it was told to me,I understood.
Now I understand why. So, you know, my thing is, you
know, me and Brian buried the action and you know, Brian is,
you know, came to me and and told me why he didn't want to
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tell me when I asked him who came up with these comments and
who said the thing that he said.I completely understand why he
didn't tell me. And again, we talked about a
good 20 minutes on the phone, meand a mutual person who put us
on three-way who actually got ustogether.
I saw text messages and things like that that would confirm
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Brian's story. So I do, we track some of the
things that was said and you know, me and Brian again, Barry
the hatchet and now you know, I guess I'll be at Wrestle Cave
this year. Wow, that, that's a, that's a
happy ending to that story. So you'll be back at Russell
Cade? Yeah, we'll, we'll see.
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We'll see. You know, again, we talked and,
you know, he's basically, you know, again, he apologized again
for, you know, all of this. And, you know, I apologize to
him. And, you know, it takes real men
to sit up there and apologize toeach other.
And that's exactly what we did. So, you know, no longer is there
heat between Brian and I we buried in and we're moving on.
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And from now on we will talk to each other if there's a problem
or someone else tries to come inthe mix and try to say he say
she say crap where that always gets you in trouble, you know,
unfortunately. And that's where everything kind
of went S with Brian and I because things that were said,
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it was, you know, giving back second hand, third hand about,
you know, again, it was the he say she say, you know what?
This person said this about you.That person said that.
And when the person that came tome and told me was the original
culprit. So, you know, again, it is what
it is. Me and Brian has moved on and
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you know, we'll, we'll just go from there.
Holding yourself accountable bro, I respect it.
I respect it all the way that that's good stuff.
Absolutely. That's good stuff there.
So so we got some breaking news here, WWE.
I needed. I needed the money.
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Which one is it now? Is it I didn't do it or I needed
the money? Which one is it?
A. A little of both.
You know how to do both? I will put you on the witness
stand. Listen, I remember I had AI had
a podcast called Table Talk before we we show doing ours.
And I remember I was joking around.
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I said something about being on the the RuPaul Draft Queen show
and it was clearly, you can tellwe were all joking around about
it and sure enough won't be about a week later.
Oh, Devon said he's going to be on the RuPaul Drag Queen show
and he's come out the closet andsaid he's guilty.
I was like, what? I said, what the hell is this
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going on? So This is why I got to be extra
careful because these guys just take, you know, even jokes
between you and other people that you have on the show and
just run away. Yeah, they say that.
Go. You know, so that's, so that's
why I got to be careful when I say I did it for the money.
I love it. I love it as long as you not
stay in the Limp Bizkit. I did it all for the Nookie.
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Remember that. As long as long as we ain't
saying that. Remember that song?
Exactly. I got to make this perfect thing
clear because they were wrong with this.
Not saying that there's anythingwrong with being gay.
No, my brother's gay. I've got friends that are gay.
That's fine, but I'm not. That's it.
So, you know, when they started that rumor, I was like, you got
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to be kidding me. I remember Paul Heyman said to
me, he goes, Devon, somebody wasdoing an interview with you.
I said, oh, OK. I was like, why are they calling
you? He said because they.
He said because they just found out that you just came out the
closet. I was like, what?
I did. Yeah.
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I was like, I I came out there. I came out the cloud.
But what do you mean came out the closet?
What closet? And he was like, Nevon, I was
like, what? I have no idea what the hell
you're talking about, Paul. I was like, come on.
He was like, did you want an interview and say that you were
on a RuPaul drag queen shot? I said it was a damn joke
between me and the Co host, The two Co hosts that was on there.
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I was like, are you serious? They actually ran with that.
He was like, Oh yeah, the guy want to do an interview with you
and wants to know because I guess this was at the time too
when Darren Young came out. Yep, Yep.
And said that he was gay from TIGuess it was TMZ news or
something like that. And they said I was like Paul,
no I'm not gay. I'm happily married with kids.
I've always I've always been a heterosexual male.
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Please stop the nonsense guys. Bro, they they put that in your
Wikipedia at one point. Remember that They they.
Actually did. They said I was getting out.
Like what the hell? They said it in such and such
year. Devon came out as gay because I
remember seeing that. I was like, oh, okay, wait,
what? Yeah, somebody told me that and
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I went what they did. They did what?
Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I mean, listen, listen, if you
guys want to run with a story, here's a story.
I was camping out in Tennessee and I happened to come out of my
tent and I saw Bigfoot and me and Bigfoot, you know, we had a
party. We, we decided we don't go to a
strip club together and throw a couple of ones and see what we
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can get. So there you go.
There's your story. Let's see if that goes viral.
I went to a strip. I went to a strip club with big
with Bigfoot and not Big Show, Bigfoot, FOOT Bigfoot and we
went to a strip club and threw some singles out some strippers.
So there you go. Let's see if that story runs.
Listen, that's a lot more believable in 2025 than you
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realize. All right?
We got we got a lot going on. Got a?
Lot going on but but let me let me get back to this the first
breaking news here. WWE starting September 20th will
be airing all non NXTPLES on ESPN.
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So for for everybody out there programming note here, literally
in one month if you want to watch WWEPLES, Survivor Series,
Hell in the Cell, Royal Rumble, Mania, the whole SummerSlam, the
whole 9 yards here, you're goingto have to subscribe to ESPN in
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some form of fashion in order tobe able to watch them.
What are your thoughts on that? It's huge.
I mean, look, I never ever thought in a million years that
this company would ever get to that type of revenue or I should
say this type of business. You know, it's incredible.
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And, you know, again, it's a testament not only to what
they're doing today, but the whole set up, you know, with
Vince McMahon. I mean, he started all of this,
you know, and I and I get it. People say, oh, don't give him
credit if number, but where would yeah, I agree.
I agree, BJ, you know, where would we be if he didn't start
this, you know, this ride with everybody?
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So it's an it's an amazing thingto see what's going on now and
the money that is being generated.
Look, these guys are finally nowgetting paid the money that a
lot of them should be getting paid.
I'm a little jealous. I'm a little envious because I
would have loved to been able tomake that type of money right
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off the bat as opposed to going three or four years into it and
then making the money. But you know, these guys are
being able to make it. Again, each generation is
different when it comes to when it comes to, you know, how money
is being made because you know, again, you know, the Hogan and
Andrea, you know, they had the, you know, the amount of money
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that is being generated. Now they would have to work with
our company for years in order to make that type of money.
But now they do it with within ayear of signing the contract,
you know, just depending on who you are and what you doing.
I mean, you know, again, you hear the old stories about if
you didn't work, you didn't get paid.
Now there's guaranteed money, you know, just like the NBA and
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the NFL, you know, amazingly, baseball, you get guaranteed
money now. Now you know, it's just, it's
just a great thing though, man. It really is.
These, these wrestlers are really now getting paid for
putting their bodies on the lineand doing what they're doing.
They're starting, they're starting to get their just due.
I love it. I love it.
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It's it's so fantastic. And like you said, it's a
testament to all of the contributions that all of you,
whoever work for that company have contributed, but especially
Vince McMahon. I mean, this is his, his baby
that's been born into a pretty, pretty healthy adult.
Let's say that, you know what I mean.
It's in my, you know, in my opinion, Duke, it's always going
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to be Vince's baby. They're not taking anything away
from, you know, Nick and and, and Paul.
But again, without Vince, we would not be talking about the
WWE and their everything that he's done to get it to this
level. I mean, we still got to give
Vince credit because again, he took chances when nobody else
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would have taken chances with what he did to make this company
what it was before he left. So, and you know, the thing
about it is, you know, Nick and Paul actually took over where he
left off. So, you know, kudos to those
guys. Kudos to Vince, kudos to the
talent that helped build the WWE.
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You know, when the WWE was called WWF, you know, going back
to your course, the late great Hulk Hogan, the Macho Man,
Random Savage, you know, Roddy, Roddy Piper, you know, Jake the
Snake Roberts, you know, Don Morocco, you know, Mr.
Wonderful, Paul Ondorf, Ace Cowboy, Bob Borden.
I mean, I can sit here and you know, you know, King Tong Bundy,
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Big John Studd, Andre the Giant.I can sit here and talk about
everybody that made the WWE whatit is today.
So good. My hat goes off for them and I'm
happy and proud of those guys are bringing in that type of
money and bringing in that revenue that they're bringing in
now. Here, here, absolutely,
absolutely. So, you know, hopefully this
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this translates into people, more people getting paid more
money. That's always good.
But it just goes back to everybody wants to be in the WWE
business, everybody wants WWE programming, all that.
Maybe I should come out of retirement and do one more run.
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Listen, you're going to start a lot of trouble, man.
You're going to start a lot of trouble.
You keep talking like this because so I go put some money
in your pocket and it make you do it, you know what I mean?
Listen, listen. I think that old Nike slogan,
Just do it. Just do it.
Show me the money. Just do it.
Just do it. Just do it, you know, because I
don't know man, the, the, the Devon Dudley train is is running
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pretty wild out there and I would not be surprised, you
know, look. Listen, I'm still, I'm still
having babies now, so I need that money.
Come on. Because you got a long way to go
before before the last one goes to college.
That's a good point. Now that's that's a.
Good point. 1717 years from now that I have every bit of it man,
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me being a father at you know what I think he was.
How old was I? I'm 53 now.
So he was, I was 5052 when he was born.
I was, I'm sorry, I was 51. I was 51 when he was born.
And you know, I'll be honest with you, the one of the
greatest things that I could have ever done, you know, not,
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not, no, you know, 52, you know,people are like, Oh my God, 51.
Oh my God, you're 50 years old. Listen, I love kids.
I love them when they're babies.I love them when they're eight
years old and starting to talk back to you.
I love them as teenagers becausethen I can beat them up and get
away with it. No, but you know, I love them as
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adults. I love watching them grow and
become the fine young men and women that they become.
I just love kids. And This is why I have 7 kids
and there's no regression. Oh my God, seven kids.
That's a lot of kids. But people don't understand
this. Four of my kids are already
grown, you know, so I am. I only got 3.
I only got 3 that's in the housenow, you know, So I have the my
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7 year old daughter, my 6 year old daughter and my almost 222
year old son. And people go, oh, that's a lot.
But for you it's a lot. For me it's nothing.
You know, I love it you. I absolutely love it.
You got a whole basketball team over there that that's just the
way it is, man, you know? Yes, I do.
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And again, you know what, come Thanksgiving, come Christmas, my
house is filled. You know, it'll never go empty.
So I'm happy about that and seeing this little, you know,
this little peanut, I call him, he's sitting next to me right
now while I'm doing the show. You know, he's, he's my pride
and joy. I love all my kids the same.
Never had any favorites but thislittle guy right here man, he
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steals our hearts. This is incredible.
I love man. You you.
You got a lot of a lot of love. You sharing this week, huh?
Well, yeah, man, again, I love, I love every bit of these guys.
I really do. Yeah.
My pride and joy, they're the ones that keep me going.
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You know, I used to tell people all the time, how do you take
these? How do you take those chair
shots and these CW and things like that?
I said, well, I had, you know, twin boys Terrence and Terrell,
who I wanted to take care of andmade sure that their lives were
secure. And every time you know I would
hurt or couldn't get up, I'd think about them and pop right
up. This is this is awesome.
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The father of the year, Devon Dudley over here, folks, I'm
trying to tell you something. Now you know who who there's.
A There's a lot of fathers out there like me.
You don't hear too much about them, but they're out there.
Well, I'm I just have a platformwhere I can put it out there.
I'm going to, I'm going to tell the Hardy boys right now, make
sure your kids are there to watch you get the whooping of a
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lifetime. So, so, so they know they can
always say, Dad, if you keep messing with me, I'm gonna get
Uncle Devon. I'm gonna get Uncle Bubba after
you make sure your kids are there.
Go put that out there. Listen, I'm gonna keep starting
trouble with that, bro. You already know.
Especially Jeff, you know, 'cause Jeff, Jeff, every time I
see Jeff now, he laughs at me. He goes, Devon, you want to
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hang? I go FI go F you.
Jeff, I ain't hanging with you nowhere ever again.
I was like, if he laughs, he cracks up.
He thinks it's the funniest thing in the world.
I said I'm going to stop doing interviews and saying this
because you're getting the crackout of all of this crap.
That's it. And you know, you scared me half
to death. You want to hang?
He's full of crap. Listen to him.
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You want to hang? Come on, babe.
I was like this, 'cause you got 10 lives don't mean that I do
Shit, I don't even have 9 lives.Your ass got 10 and.
He's still going He. Got one up, still going not and
I said something. I don't know how the hell he
still goes and his body, he still does the things that he
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does. Good God, my body would have
been screaming a long time ago. Please.
Stop. That dude is on another level,
man. He's on.
He might be from outer space, you know, Speaking of Speaking
of outer space, listen to this. Now.
Here we go. I'm about to throw something at
you that you probably don't evenknow.
Devon. Talk to me.
There is an object that had beendiscovered by astronomers back
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in July of this year and it's identified as an interstellar
object that's moving through oursolar system at an unusually
high speed. Now they've they've identified
this object, they're calling it three I Atlas.
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And a group of scientists, astrophysicists by the way, are
concerned that this may be an extraterrestrial spacecraft that
is essentially mapping our solarsystem.
He says. It's one of the guys says it's
an unusual size retrograde orbitand it's acceleration, you know,
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the speed at which it moves is evidence of some type of
technology being used. It may be nuclear powered, quite
frankly. So Devon, you and I have never
spoken about outer space and aliens or anything like that.
But this is probably the most compelling evidence that we've
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ever had that there may be life out there.
And not only that, that that life is actually looking for
something. It may stumble across us.
What are your thoughts on the possibility that there's an
alien spacecraft that is out there floating around that close
to us? You know, me and Bubba used to
have these talks. Sometimes when you have long car
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rock, a long car rides, you can't.
Yeah. I mean, believe it or not, but
me and Bubba used to have some interesting conversations.
And believe it or not, I mean, that was one of them.
And the Bible was another. Bubba I used to have
conversations about, you know, and of course, I knew a little
bit more than Bubba. So he would ask me questions and
I would, you know, break it downto him.
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But you know, we can't honestly think that we're the only ones
here. You got to be very foolish to
think that if you believe in Godand things like that, you going
to sit there and tell me that God only made earth and put
people here and that was it? You know, there's a reason why,
you know that you can't go that far out to find anybody else.
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You know, maybe because he doesn't want you to find anybody
else yet. Maybe the time is coming.
We're we're going to find out that there's things out there
other than us. I just find it hard pressing for
you to think that we're the onlyones here.
We're not the only ones here. We're just we think we are, but
we're not. There might be other places that
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they get it. They get it right, you know, and
they're actually doing, you know, what they're supposed to
do to keep their planet safe andsound and all of that.
Maybe the people over there, youknow, if they call people, maybe
they're the real deal. Maybe, you know, they know how
to survive and keep things goingand not live in this crazy world
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that we live in right now. I'm going to tell you right now,
man, I have a theory about this whole thing because we, we've,
we've come to realize that our Galaxy is just one of many
galaxies. And when we say galaxies, we
literally mean all the planets for the most part that we can
see within our solar system. But what happens if we're just
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one of many? There are, there are countless
galaxies out there. So just like you said,
statistically, it's improbable that, that we're the only life
forms that exist. So my theory is that we're part
of a body. What if space is just literally
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a body of a living Organism and all the planets and things like
that are just molecules. There's something bigger and
greater and what have you. And we're just like a tiny grain
of sand as a as a planet amongstumpteenth, you know, grains of
sand in this body. And what if the body is God?
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So. You don't know.
You just don't know. You just don't.
Just don't know. But, but we're getting into a
scary period in life where with the quantum computers and the AI
and, you know, the, the advancesand, and, and different forms of
technology, we're starting to get answers like we've never
gotten them before. And I would not be surprised,
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Yvonne, in our lifetime, if it'spossible to actually visit
another planet commercially, like literally we could, we
could take a tour and and visit a planet for a day.
I wouldn't be surprised. At least the moon I wouldn't be
surprised. You know another thing, you
know, me and Bubba, we discussed, I forgot how we
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brought it, how we said it, but it was like, you know, we always
talk about heaven and hell, you know, but let's just say
nothing, nothing. Not talking about hell.
Let's just say heaven. What if no, in another Galaxy
where heaven is somewhere else and God just takes you when you
die in your soul and re puts youover there, you know, and puts
you over there. You, you, you never know, you
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know, because the Bible says, you know, there's going to be a
new earth. There's going to be a new
something where everybody who isin the book of life and
everybody that God, you know, was going to bring over is going
to bring over to that place and that's where you're going to be.
Who's to say that that place isn't already formed with our
grandmothers and, you know, uncles and brothers and sisters
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that have passed on from this world?
Maybe they're at that world, youknow, put it in perspective.
You just, you just don't know. And again, maybe they're getting
it right over there. What if you get to relive your
life just on another planet? And you realize the mistakes
that you've done and now you can, you know, as opposed to you
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go onto that other planet reliving your life instead of
going your memory going blank like you don't have any
recollection, recollection of what you've done here.
Maybe you go to this another, you know, this planet and you do
have recollections because maybethis is God's way of saying, OK,
you know what you did wrong. Now let's see if you would fix
it and put you over there. Wouldn't that be heaven?
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Wouldn't that be heaven? That would be great.
No, I think that'd be more than I think it would be phenomenal,
you know, because again, we've all made mistakes.
We all wish that we can go back.We all wish that, you know, we
can do things. Who's to say that you can't, who
say that God wouldn't put you there?
There's so many things that the mind can, you know, think about
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in terms of stuff like that. But who's to say it doesn't work
that way, Steve, You know, having to be somewhere else.
Yeah, it really is deep. There's so many things, so many
conversations that you could have with somebody that has
probably looked into it more deeper than we could ever look
into. Sure, sure.
I, I always wonder about this though, if this, if there is an
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alien spacecraft, for lack of a better term, and it is in our,
our solar system and, and let's say they are coming up, they
want to observe Earth, no different from how we're
observing other planets and things like that with our
spacecraft out there. We know as human beings.
History has proven to us that when outsiders go into a new
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territory, either the people whobelong to that territory or the
outsider, somebody's going to attack somebody.
That is human nature. That's what history has shown
us. Is, is is inevitable.
So. So here's my question to you,
Devon. You got 7 kids.
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They got long lives to live way beyond us.
If you had the decision to make,do you allow the alien
spacecraft to get close enough to Earth to actually land on
Earth, or do you shoot it down? Oh no, that's a tough one.
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I'm on, I'm on you on this one. Now see, we we got the Pilgrims,
we got the Pilgrims landing, youknow, on Plymouth Rock and we
got the Native Americans alreadyhere.
The natives welcome them. And then they ended up
slaughtering the natives and enslaving them and stuff like
that. So, so history has shown us why
you have to be mistrusting of strangers, so to speak.
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But we also have situations where the natives drove off the
strangers because it's like, no,you ain't coming here for that.
I believe that our leaders wouldshoot the aircraft down.
I don't think they would allow it to come here, but would you
allow it? Because of fear.
Because of fear. But what about you?
How trusting are you? I don't know.
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I mean, again, I would say yes. And then I can say no, I don't
know. I mean, this is what society
does to you. It puts fear for no reason.
You know, that's like asking thequestion, you know, a racist
person back in the 50s and 60s, you know, they were racist and
did not like black people for the simple fact because they
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didn't take the time to understand black people.
They didn't take the, you know, the knowledge to, to know what
we were about. So they didn't know.
They were only hearing stories what their grandfathers and
great grandfathers and history has told them.
You know, they never really sat down with a black man or a black
woman to find out what we were about and how we really were.
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They didn't take the time to learn our culture.
We were forced to learn everybody else's culture but our
own. So, you know, again, when you
have these racist people out there that have no idea about us
being African American or, or the correct word and what we
like to say is black people, youknow, why?
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Why is that, you know, an issue?You know, why is that a problem?
Because again, it should not be.There should not be fear.
If you understand, then there should not be any fear, you
know, and that's the thing. People fear what they don't
understand. Absolutely.
I think that's what I think that's what I'm trying to get
at. People feel what they don't
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understand. And so for me to shoot down
something that might come to Earth and I don't know what it
is. Why?
Because I don't know. That's what they've done here on
Earth. They made you program to do
that. Because if we don't know what it
is, then guess what? We're going to shoot it down.
We're going to take it hostage. We're going to keep it, you
know, and, and, and run all sorts of tests and see what they
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got for what you know. Suppose you went to that to that
planet, did the same thing and you landed on there.
Would would you want them to experiment you and cut you open?
No. Wow, good point all.
Right. Good point.
Yeah. You know, I mean, it's it's one
of those things and you just don't know.
You don't fear and you can't fear something that you
understand, but you fear things that you don't understand.
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And that's what happens. If you think about a lot of, you
know, the 40s, fifties and 60s, you know, that's what was going
on with a lot of people during races, during the race wars and
all that. They didn't understand.
They were just going by generation, the generation of
what they were being told about,about black people and how they
should treat us a certain way and not give us rights to do
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this and this because we're not human beings or what have you.
And it went down from generationto generation.
And then, of course, when you had those that said, wait a
minute, why am I fearing black people when I have no idea about
them? Maybe I should get to learn.
And those people were criticizedbecause they did that.
But think about the ones that did that didn't make a
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difference and did change the way society is now.
Well said, well said. And it's it's it's ironic
because you know that that leadsme to another good point here.
Shout out to you, man. Our Truth Ron, the Truth
Killings. He was actually able to debut on
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the Billboard country albums charts.
It's amazing. I I think he was, he was in the
top 15, his latest album. So, so truth put out a country
album. It's it's country rap.
So it's, it's a, it's a modernized version of the
country, but it's still a country album.
When you talk about the racism that this country has gone
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through through the years to Fast forward to 2025, if you
took somebody from the from the 20s, thirties, 40s, fifties,
from the 1800s, seventeen hundreds and you'd pluck them,
drop them in in 2025. And our truth is one of the the
most popular country artists with an album out right now, I'm
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sure their head would explode, right?
It's like. Listen, when I saw the movie
When I saw the movie, Ray, of course, about Ray Charles being
portrayed by Jamie Foxx, I had no idea that Ray Charles did
country music. The majority of his music was
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country music. I had no idea until I.
Yeah, the number one country album, bro, he had the number
one country album in the nation.I had no idea about that.
So, you know, it's, it's, it's amazing to me.
So, you know, this whole thing, you know, again, it's all about
not understanding and not giving, not trying to
understand. You know, this world could be
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such a better place, but yet we single out somebody's color,
nationality, things like that inorder to determine what type of
person this person is. And it's wrong, you know, in
regards to how many people have said it's wrong, but it's wrong.
And never have we ever tried to fix it.
We say we try, but we don't, we don't try.
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We don't really try, you know, Imean, again, does it matter
whether the person's color, skin, it shouldn't matter.
But because we don't understand,we fear.
And when we fear, that's when wrong is being about to be done.
It's true. It's true.
Now listen, my my lady asked me this question here, Devon.
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So I'm going to I'm going to putyou on the spot and ask you
this. Now that our truth is a is a big
time country artist because we're not talking just regular
charts, we're not talking, we'retalking Billboard.
That's that's it. That's the big one.
So he had to have sold enough albums or, you know, had enough
digital plays in order to debut that high up on the charts
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there. So now that our truth is doing
it, when are we going to get theDevon Dudley country album?
Man, listen, I better learn how to hit a note first before I
even think about doing some damncountry music.
Come on though. You don't want to, no, you don't
want. You know, I used to sing in the
in the choir and things like that in church and then I got to
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ECW and I started screaming and yelling, not knowing how to use
my vocals, you know, my vocal cords correct and all that.
I lost my debut. If you go back and look at it.
April 13th, 1996 Queens lost Battalion Hall.
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When I ran in and I was introduced for the first time, I
basically lost my voice. I you know, I came down and I'm
screaming and yelling thou shallnot F what the day I'm screaming
at. The crowd was like crazy that
night and I got caught up into it and completely lost my voice.
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I was supposed to put a promo after all the chaos and I
couldn't speak. Wow.
I literally, I literally lost myvoice, all the yelling and
screaming and trying to be talking with the fans.
And at one point I was able to hold notes and everything, you
know, singing. Like I said, I sing in the
choir. And then after a few years in
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ECW lost it because I damaged myvocal cords and to the point
where I couldn't hit those notesanymore.
So no duets with R Truth. He ain't going to be putting out
the country album. If I do listen, I'll be
speaking, he'll be singing. Listen, congratulations.
True. Seriously, man, it is a major,
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major honor to be able to debut so high on the Billboard charts
and it's country, it's country music, man, that that's I'm
blown away by it. That's that's good stuff there.
So definitely want to get that in one more.
Brian Josie. So he was Abraham Washington,
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the WWE. In fact, he was the original
manager for crime time. Brian Josie had some serious
health issues last month. He was in the hospital for a
while. He went in for one thing and
then other things started happening.
Next thing you know they they had him on life support.
At one point he spent almost a month in the hospital and his
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lovely lady Marnay was there by his side the whole way.
To make a Long story short, he recently was was discharged,
he's back home and he's actuallyable to walk on his own and
everything. So almost a full recovery for
this guy and he's a he's a bodybuilder and all that stuff,
man. In fact, he just won a
tournament right before he had to go into the hospital.
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So he's all muscled up all that,but just want to give a shout
out to Brian, Josie and his family and, and just let him
know, man, you can't stop a stepper, brother.
Keep, keep going. Thank God you're OK.
Thank God that you were able to overcome those challenges,
right? Absolutely, my prayers and
thoughts are with you on an evenmore speedy recovery and you
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right back to normal where you once were before all of this.
God bless you my brother. Yeah, God, God bless Brian for
sure. Folks on on Instagram, Brian,
Josie, Joss i.e. follow them, send them some words of
encouragement, the whole 9 yards.
Again, shout out to his lady Marnay.
She she was doing post updating everything, which was really,
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really challenges bro, because, you know, I, I think he's going
to come home tomorrow and the next thing you know, they put
him on life support. I don't know what's going on,
just the, the ebb and flow of that was tough, especially on
the heels of losing Hulk Hogan, you know what I mean?
And which we're now realizing and, and, and some information
came out that it may be medical malpractice.
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Hulk Hogan's passing. It may not have been as natural
as folks try to pass it off as at first.
So, you know, folks, be careful in these hospitals, man.
You who, whoever your, your, your person is who's supposed to
be looking out for you, they gotto ask the right questions and
they got to stay on top of everything because you never
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know, you know? Absolutely.
Dustin Rose caught some heat because he said hospitals
sometimes kill people and and people gave Dustin a hard time
for saying that. But now you realize, you know he
may have a point there anyway. Hey, we've got to be careful.
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We might be trending on that so.I was going to say, that'll be
the next thing. You know, Devon and the Duke
don't don't believe in hospitals.
No, it ain't about that. It's just that trust.
We verified. Make sure you're looking out for
your people. Anytime my mom or my sister have
to have to go in for surgery or anything like that, my lady
would have you. I'm.
I stay on top of it all, man. I want to know everything.
What's going on, how long it's going to take, what's happening.
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I need to know it all. You know what I mean?
I got to stay on top of it because you never know.
But with that said, Devon, what's the best way everybody
can keep up with you, man? You know, to my YouTube channel,
Devon Dudley YouTube and also testified Devon on Instagram as
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well as Twitter. Facebook is private.
Don't really allow anybody unless you're family and
friends, unless I've known you for over 30 something years.
You've broken bread with me, been at my house, you know my
family. That's only on Facebook, but
testify Devon on Instagram and again the YouTube channel.
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this show matters enough that you folks keep talking about it.
So it has to be covered by all these dirt sheets and and, you
know, Sports News and things like that.
That's pretty impressive. It's pretty impressive, but it
doesn't happen without you. So keep, keep spreading the
word, folks, please. All right, it's that time of the
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What do you got for the word of the week?
Well, you know, I really didn't have one until I started talking
about the Me and Brian at Wrestle Came, but I'm going to
try to put it in my own words and maybe you can understand it.
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Brothers and sisters, welcome back.
Welcome back to another excitingedition of the Devon and the
Duke Podcast. This is a limited edition series
hosted by your main man. Duke loves wrestling.
And of course, the five time Hall of Famer himself, the man
who is a YouTube sensation across the nation, Mr. Devon
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Dudley. What's going on there, Devon?
What's going on, man? Hey, I don't know about the
YouTube sensation, not yet. It's getting there.
I don't know if I'm there yet. Listen, most people can't just
just relaunch a channel and, and, and have the kind of
traction that, that you've been getting, man.
Come on now. Don't be humble speak.
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Speaking of that, congratulations.
Now we're, we're what, at least 2 episodes in a row where you've
gone viral? And from last week's episode,
you went viral on 2 separate topics.
The first one was Dixie Carter and burying the hatchet with
her. That, that through the roof.
Everybody covered that. And then also what you said
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about Stephanie McMahon. So I don't know, man, you, you,
you just, you just can't seem tostay out of the, the dirt sheets
these days, huh? The whole thing with Dixie, I
mean, there was no secret. I, I mentioned that months ago
and how it got resurfaced again was, you know, to that point was
beyond me. In other words, I had said
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before I had saw a Dixie that, you know, things happen for a
reason and you know, it builds your character when there's
things against you in life. And when you can get past that
adversity and move on and becomebetter from it, that means that
God put that in your life for a reason and embedded you.
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And I just felt that it embeddedme.
You know, I might not have understood it at the time, but,
you know, now looking back at it, it better than me.
So wasn't too, you know, angry or upset about that anymore at
that point. And it was great to see Dixie
and to be able to, you know, talk and laugh and communicate
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and talk a little bit about the old times.
You know, it was great to do that.
And then the whole thing with Stephanie McMahon.
I mean, come on, guys, really, you guys there.
She's really wanted to reprint this crap again.
For what? What are you going to get out of
it? It's not like I'm going to sit
here and make a mistake and say something stupid again.
I mean, God, I had back surgery and this and that and had a
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stroke and this and that. You know, I use my words a
little differently. Come on, man.
But write something else. Talk about something else more
interesting than me messing up aword that I shouldn't have used
when referring to Stephanie McMahon in terms of my
appreciation for it. Come on, guys, stop.
Enough of this already. You know, I'm sure Stephanie and
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Triple H, anybody else in that company, if they saw it on your
dirt sheet or skim by, I'm like,OK, no stupid shit that happened
three years ago and you're stilltalking about it.
Come on. That's why we call you guys the
National Enquirer, because you keep harvesting over crap.
It doesn't even matter anymore. So I mean, come on, seriously,
is that the only way you can getpeople to look at your stories
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and say, Oh well? Yvonne said that he used the
word infatuation as opposed to admire.
Come on, man. Come on.
Stop. I I, I think, well, with the
Stephanie thing, I, they finallygot it right because previous
reporting, they seem to run withtheir own narrative.
Oh, he's infatuated, he's in love.
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Oh, he's going to, he's going tochallenge Booker a, a, a Triple
H to A to a match and they're going to somebody's going to win
Stephanie. You know that they were all into
the sensationalism of that nonsense, but.
Men listen. Right Stephanie on a pole match,
they thought that y'all were going to.
Come on, man, You know, This is why.
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This is why us as wrestlers sit back and laugh at all of this
dumb stuff. And we tell people don't believe
the dirt sheets because they're not right at all.
And then when we start naming the dirt sheets that aren't
right, then you get mad at us. And you want to, you know, I'll
sue you. You know, you mess with my
business. No, you're, you're you're
ruining trying to ruin my reputation when you don't have
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to for no reason whatsoever. You're trying to put shit out.
That's not even true. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Now on the other front, on the on the Dixie front, you, you
spoke of her more positively than most people do when they
mentioned Dixie. So I think that the, the
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interest in that what you said really centered around, oh,
somebody's actually saying something positive about her for
a change, you know what I mean? So.
You know, the funny part about it is I got something that would
go viral again, but I ain't going to say.
It. Oh no.
Oh no. I got to say because me and
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Dixie laugh about we, every timewe talked about this certain
situation, we would just laugh about it.
And we were like, man, if only people were only knew.
And I but I ain't going to bringit up all right.
So we, we're going to, we're going to have to.
I'll bring it up off the air because I was surprised when we
saw each other and we started reconnecting, you know, me and
her husband and her and Hope. And she brought it up and I was
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like, oh, wow, you remember that?
She goes, hell yeah, dude. She goes, I got to find that
footage. I was like, yeah, when you find
it, send it to me and let me know.
That's an interesting thing because I did some digging
around and I noticed on Dixie's Internet Movie Database page
IMDb, which you have your own aswell, but then the first photo
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other than her, her main photo is a photo of you and her.
Right. Which I thought was very, very
interesting, you know? Well, it could have been because
I mean, I never really went public and said anything that I
was, you know, upset with her orthe company at the time.
It was only until I got back to WWE was when I started in 2015,
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I started, you know, saying how upset and, and displeased I was
with that, with that regime at the time.
Because at that time, no idea. I was, you know, I was ever
going to go back there and I as far as I was concerned, I was
back in WWE and that was there. I wasn't going back there.
So I pretty much said what I hadto say in, in social media about
it. But you know, and then again,
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now look at how many years lateron what, 10 years later and you
know, I'm doing Bound for Glory,you know, me and Bubba, you
know, the last time that we're going to see, you know, the
Hardy Boys in the ring with us. So, you know, it's, it's weird,
but I, I, I don't even, I've never noticed that because I
never looked at Dixie's page. But you know, me, me, Dixie and
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her husband just started laughing.
We started cracking up at certain things that people say
and things like that. It's, it's, it's just hilarious
to some of us how these dirt sheet writers say what they say
to get people to look at their page or, you know, click on to
their story. And we, we just eat up.
Sometimes shit is made-up, you know, because we know that if we
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make it up, you guys were printed.
And then when the fact and then when the truth comes out about
what really went down with the story, then you guys look like
the idiots because what you printed and what you swore to be
the truth because of what you heard wasn't the truth. 100
percent, 100%. What were you surprised?
Because I, you know, we, we talkabout analytics and, and, and
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viral. And I'm always telling you what
man, your brand is doing really,really well.
It's like, it's, it's hot right now.
But I sent you a screenshot of just a taste of all the
different articles, and then I sent you a couple of articles
because you asked for it. Were you surprised you were
getting that type of press last week?
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Off of Dixie and Stephanie. Well, just in general.
I mean, let's be honest man, youwere Devon Dudley as a as a
topic was a top ten topic last week.
And yet, no, I was surprised when you told me about it.
You text me because you were outwith your lady and you out for
dinner and you texted me about it and told me what was going on
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because I, I don't really look at social media like that to
know who's trending and who's not.
I wouldn't even know where to goto find that out.
So when you text me that, I was like, oh, OK, I was, I was kind
of taken back by it. I was like, I remember when you
text me, I go, oh man, what the hell?
What are they? Saying what did I do this time?
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Well, what did I do this time? Damn, I'm like, I'm not even
wrestling no more and you guys are still trying to make me
relevant in some negative way whatsoever.
But you know, it is what it is man.
It is what it is with these guys.
I I just to all the wrestlers out there, because this is the
thing, a lot of the wrestlers, alot of the indie guys listen to
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the show, which I appreciate. And you know, I've interviewed
them through the years, so they know that this is friendly to
them. But for you younger guys, Devon
Dudley, you know, 30 plus years in the business and he's still
topical, he's still getting coverage.
What he says still matters to the point where websites know
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that he's newsworthy. What are you going to do in
order to make yourself that relevant in 10:15, 20-30 years?
Just think about that, folks. I tell you what you can do.
Make a mistake and use the wrongword.
When you're returned to Stephanie McMahon, how you
admire her. I'll keep you going.
That's one way that's. One way to do it.
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And then you have a bunch of people going there.
Triple H is going to kill you because, you know, you talk
about Stephanie McMahon and thenwhen you and then it's funny
because when you hear what was said and how you and how, how I
said it, because I, I, I listened to it like two or three
times, you know, after it had trended the first time, I was
like, don't see how that was taken out of content, but OK.
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And how they just ran with it. OK, ran.
Not a problem. They ran, not a problem.
They, they pulled the Usain Bolt.
They they, they ran the whole race with it, Boy, Yeah, they
did, you know. But Speaking of Triple H, there
was a, a, a photo that was circulated.
Triple H and Stephanie were on ayacht doing a family vacation.
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Yes, I saw that. And he had his shirt off and
Triple H quite frankly, looks like a very fit person his age,
right? That's the way that I
interpreted. It's like damn, when I when I
get his age I I want to look like that hopefully.
You know what I mean? He he, he has a dad bought.
We could call it that, but it's a fit.
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Dad bought. But these humanoids have been
all over the Internet talking trash about how Triple H looks
physically now. Oh, look at him.
He's out of shape. And this Now mind you, this is a
man with a pacemaker. And not only that, let me ask
you a question. How old is he?
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I know he's. He's he's, he's gotta be because
if I'm 53, he's at least got to be.
Yeah, no, I know he's 50, but yeah, I know he's older than me,
but he's only he's a few years old and he says he's 5657 maybe.
You're right. I mean, you're right.
He just turned 56. Right 56 so please show me the
average 56 year old that even remotely looks like Triple H
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right now they. Don't.
They don't. They don't.
So come on, the man is 56 years old.
Do you want him? How can he possibly keep looking
like he did in the attitude ever?
You can't. It's almost physical and
physically impossible. Not to mention, like he said, he
has a pacemaker. Leave the man alone.
At least he looks good for 56 years old.
I dare you to find. I dare you to look in the mirror
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and tell me you look as good as half.
You look as good as Triple H does, because you probably
don't. These idiots that are saying
that, I guarantee you if they'retaking off their shirt, you
ain't winning no bodybuilding contest.
Trust me. At least Triple H has pictures,
videos and all of that to show what he did when he was younger
and as he got older, he still looks great.
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So, you know, I mean, again, forget all those people that are
saying negative crap about him. And again, I'm not defending him
because I have a legends deal orI want to be back with the
company. Trust me, I don't want to
wrestle for WWE again. Them guys hit way too damn hard
now. So I see stuff that they do in
that ring right now. I'm like, man, I'm glad I
retired. So wait, you don't.
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You don't want Gunter. You don't want Gunter to give
you one of those chops? Is that what you're saying?
Listen, I'm afraid of Gunter Chop me.
My heart will stop. And you see the after bath, the
people all black and blue, everyafter every match with him,
Jesus. Listen 25 to 35 year old Devon
Absolutely. All day, all night. 53 year old
Devon? No, no, I wouldn't even want to
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take a chop from Rick Flair. And you know he'd lay it in
Jesus. You're.
A flair will let flair will lay it in, trust me.
But I've been in the ring with flair, so I know.
That that which what an honor that that is incredible that is.
But but you know, if you look atthat photo of Triple H and you
look at his left chest, you can literally see the outline of
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pacemaker. So you want a man who literally
almost died as his whole body was shutting down?
You want a man like that to do what?
Pump himself full of full of drugs to to be all muscular to
just to satisfy your weird cravings out there?
Folks, come on. Stop.
Stop. You hit the nail.
You hit the nail right on the button, because that's what it
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is. Crazy.
Listen, yesterday is gone. It's not here anymore.
You know, as we get older, Father time gets up to all of
us, but here's the deal for the time.
He might have caught up the triple HA little bit, but Triple
H is staying ahead of the game and looks still looks great
looks great. So so please no plastic surgery,
no nothing. The man's having a good time.
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He's running a major company like the WWE and you know what
else do you want from this man? How you know this is this is it
makes me so angry the way peopleare.
It's like these we give our blood, sweat and tears to the
fans and to the business and youmake stupid remarks like that.
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You you say things like that. What else more do you want from
us? OK, at least you know Triple H
is still a part of the business and still making headlines,
doing what he's doing for the WWE and you know, just wrestling
in general. He's still still on top of his
game. He may not be in the ring
anymore, but he's outside the ring making things happen.
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People just get a life man. Seriously just get AF in life
and stop the nonsense already. And, and he's out there on a
nice yacht with it with his gorgeous wife and her in her
bikini and all that good stuff. Listen.
Listen, I'm going to say this. I'm going to say this.
He's on the he's on the yacht with his wife and his family.
I'm sorry. Show me in your life where
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you're on a yacht with your wifeand kids, enjoying life and have
success and money that I had that that man has.
You know, next time Triple H goes out there with Stephanie
and his kids on a big yacht likethat, he should be.
He take off his shirt, hold up his middle fingers and go F you,
you don't like it, Check my bankaccount.
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F you. I love it.
I love it. You know, Speaking of, since
you're all fired up now, we got it.
We got to keep this going. Now one of your good friends,
someone that you'd known pretty much her entire career, Trinity
Fatu AKA Naomi, has just made a big announcement that she and
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Big Jim, Jimmy USO are expectinga child.
So what do you say that Devon? How do you feel about Naomi
being pregnant? Well, let me just say this, you
know, hopefully I get the words right because I, I love both of
them. I'm, I'm very happy and very,
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very, very happy for both of them.
You know, again, couldn't happencouldn't couldn't happen to two
better people. I mean, I know she has wanted to
been been I know she wanted to become a mom for a long time,
but she put her career, you know, she put the baby on hold
for a while, having a baby on hold so she can have her career
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and things like that. So, you know, I'm very happy
that they're finally going to get that.
Is it wrong timing? The only one that can answer
that is Naomi, you know, becauseshe was just rebranding herself
and just really, really coming out there in her own and just
really doing it. The heal character, which I
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didn't think she would be able to pull off.
And I say that because she's such a nice person.
Trinity is is a phenomenal person.
I mean, she's she's got a heart of gold.
She's a sweetheart. She's she's just a genuinely
nice person and people like thatis very hard to go from a baby
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face to a heel because you know that there's such a good person.
You just can't believe that theywould be that type of heel.
But you know, it just proves that what she can do for the
business in terms of the way sheacted as a heel.
She made me believe it at some point that maybe there was a
little bit of that in Naomi. But, you know, she, she did a
great job. And, you know, I almost would
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have liked to have seen her maybe put this on hold for a
little longer because I was really interested and seeing
where the character was going togo and what she was going to do
with everything that was going on.
But, you know, God called and said, Nope, Nope, we're giving
you a baby. And Big Jim was like, let me
help out. And, and he sure did.
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He sure did and I think she saidthat best in her promo.
I forgot what she said, but she made reference to it.
You know, and again, I'm happy for those guys.
I'm happy for them. God, I'm happy for them.
You know, they're going to starttheir family.
They're going to have their their child, their first child.
And you know, man, hey, you never know, it could be like
another Becky Lynch. You know where she goes away.
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She announces that she's pregnant and she had the title
and all of that. She goes away, she coming back
and she, I think. That's exactly how it's going to
go. I'll, I'll tell you, Devon, one
of the things that I was concerned about when you, you
dedicate your time in this, in this space to interviewing
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people and doing real interviewsand really getting to the heart
of who people are and what's going on and what have you.
You really pay attention to the things that they say, especially
the, the challenges that they have in life.
And let's not forget that not that long ago, Trinity had to
take some time off from wrestling entirely because she
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had some issues with, I think she had like a cyst on her
ovaries or something like that. There were some issues there,
right? And that could complicate
things. OK, yeah, I didn't.
I didn't know that. Oh yeah, Oh, yeah, She, she was
dealing with that. Stuff.
I didn't know that. She was dealing with that stuff.
She put it out there after the fact.
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She explained after the fact what it was.
So I'm not, I'm not breaking anynews there.
But my point is, if you, if you know anybody who's had to go
through that type of stuff, it'sserious business man.
And we're talking about a lady here.
We're talking about a woman potentially not being able to
bear children is devastating. And it's really a sensitive
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topic. So you got to be careful with
people. I was very disappointed and, and
the, the inquiries out there, oh, why did, why did she, why
did she not make it to, to raw the other day?
And oh, is she pregnant? Is she pregnant?
It's like, Hey, be careful with that.
Because for somebody who's gone through that medically being
pregnant and, and, and, and going through with a pregnancy
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is, is a big challenge. It's a big challenge and it's
not an easy Rd. man. So they're not going to announce
unless they're really sure, first of all.
And second of all, there's a lotof precautions that have to be
put in place just to make sure that everyone stays healthy
throughout the process and stufflike that.
Folks, we are not entitled to knowing the full medical scope
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of these performers. It's none of our business.
If they want to share it with us, great.
But to be speculating and digging and prodding and
demanding, it really kind of pissed me off, to be honest with
you, Devon, You know what I mean?
People acting as if they're entitled to know if she's
pregnant or not. It's crazy to me, you know?
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I don't know why they I don't. I really don't know why they
feel that they should know. It's none of your business
whether she is or not. Why can't that?
I just, I don't understand. I'm, I'm really trying to figure
out this world. I really am, because it just
makes no sense to me. It just makes no sense.
You feel entitlement. Why?
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It's like, why? Why do you feel entitled?
Like you need to know. You don't need to know, Jack.
Mind your goddamn business and leave it alone, you know?
And, and, and again, I mean it, she had fibroids.
That's what it was. She had fibroids and she had to
have surgery on that. That's very painful.
It's devastating again, because you're you're essentially told
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you're probably not going to be able to have kids as a result of
a condition like that. You know what I mean?
If that's the And if that's the case, then think about it.
Now she's having a baby miracle.I can't be more happy, happier
for any occasion about that all the time.
Yeah. You know, people are told that
they'll never have kids and, andthings like that and all of a
sudden, damn. Yep, it's true.
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It's true that that's another reason why, you know, I stay
away from the whole, well, how come you're not pregnant or when
are you going to have kids? I stay away from that stuff,
man. I stay away from that stuff.
I don't talk to people that way because again, you don't know
what people are dealing with, you know what I mean?
So you so you just got to leave that alone.
But that's a miracle, man. And, and, and God bless the both
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of them and it soon to be the three of them.
It's awesome, awesome stuff there.
And I know when she comes back, she can be better than ever
because I, I just watched Becky Lynch on Smackdown get a, a
amazing ovation because they were in Ireland.
She got an amazing ovation. And then she managed to turn the
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crowd against her because she's a heel and she put all of the
all the the, the babyface heat onto Tiffany Stratton.
And I was saying to my lady as we were watching, I was like,
look at the skill that Becky Lynch has where she's able to in
her own home country that hardlyever gets WWE live programming.
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To be able to have the crowd loving you and loving on you and
all that stuff. And then you're able to turn
them against you just to put over your opponent.
That's pretty fantastic. You know, that's pretty
fantastic. So I'm expecting nothing less
from from Naomi when she comes back, but wish her she's 20
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weeks pregnant too, man. So that means that, you know,
some of these matches that she'shad over the past couple of
months that she, she, she had the baby in there while she's,
she's banging and bumping and all that stuff, you know.
Listen, she can tell the baby when it comes born, when she can
tell the baby when you know the baby's first born.
Listen, I was up there kicking ass when I had you in my belly.
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I don't play. I'm telling you right now.
Was the baby already performed that summer slip?
I'm pregnant. The baby already performed at
Summer Slam. They're already a superstar.
First match ever at Summer Slam.Baby and baby and mom at summer
slam. That's a first.
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
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That's good stuff, man. That's good stuff.
Now listen, word on the street is that you have an apology to
give, so I'm going to give you some room here.
Brian from Rest OK, You know, wehad some issues in the past,
those things that were said and come to find out that the words
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that were said didn't come from Brian.
And I was very disturbed by where I found out, when I found
out where it didn't come from. But again, no need to talk about
that. I will say this, you know,
apology. All right, So, oh, that's my
son. So he's upset too, the baby
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sitting up here next to me. But no, but you know, you know,
my, you know, my apologies go out to Brian.
But Brian understood why? Because, you know, when things
were asked of him, of who said what about me and, and anybody
that was involved in it, basically, you know, he didn't
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want to say anything. He wanted to keep quiet because
it was quite disturbing where the comments came from.
But, and when it was told to me,I understood.
Now I understand why. So, you know, my thing is, you
know, me and Brian buried the action and you know, Brian is,
you know, came to me and and told me why he didn't want to
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tell me when I asked him who came up with these comments and
who said the thing that he said.I completely understand why he
didn't tell me. And again, we talked about a
good 20 minutes on the phone, meand a mutual person who put us
on three-way who actually got ustogether.
I saw text messages and things like that that would confirm
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Brian's story. So I do, we track some of the
things that was said and you know, me and Brian again, Barry
the hatchet and now you know, I guess I'll be at Wrestle Cave
this year. Wow, that, that's a, that's a
happy ending to that story. So you'll be back at Russell
Cade? Yeah, we'll, we'll see.
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We'll see. You know, again, we talked and,
you know, he's basically, you know, again, he apologized again
for, you know, all of this. And, you know, I apologize to
him. And, you know, it takes real men
to sit up there and apologize toeach other.
And that's exactly what we did. So, you know, no longer is there
heat between Brian and I we buried in and we're moving on.
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And from now on we will talk to each other if there's a problem
or someone else tries to come inthe mix and try to say he say
she say crap where that always gets you in trouble, you know,
unfortunately. And that's where everything kind
of went S with Brian and I because things that were said,
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it was, you know, giving back second hand, third hand about,
you know, again, it was the he say she say, you know what?
This person said this about you.That person said that.
And when the person that came tome and told me was the original
culprit. So, you know, again, it is what
it is. Me and Brian has moved on and
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you know, we'll, we'll just go from there.
Holding yourself accountable bro, I respect it.
I respect it all the way that that's good stuff.
Absolutely. That's good stuff there.
So so we got some breaking news here, WWE.
I needed. I needed the money.
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Which one is it now? Is it I didn't do it or I needed
the money? Which one is it?
A. A little of both.
You know how to do both? I will put you on the witness
stand. Listen, I remember I had AI had
a podcast called Table Talk before we we show doing ours.
And I remember I was joking around.
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I said something about being on the the RuPaul Draft Queen show
and it was clearly, you can tellwe were all joking around about
it and sure enough won't be about a week later.
Oh, Devon said he's going to be on the RuPaul Drag Queen show
and he's come out the closet andsaid he's guilty.
I was like, what? I said, what the hell is this
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going on? So This is why I got to be extra
careful because these guys just take, you know, even jokes
between you and other people that you have on the show and
just run away. Yeah, they say that.
Go. You know, so that's, so that's
why I got to be careful when I say I did it for the money.
I love it. I love it as long as you not
stay in the Limp Bizkit. I did it all for the Nookie.
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Remember that. As long as long as we ain't
saying that. Remember that song?
Exactly. I got to make this perfect thing
clear because they were wrong with this.
Not saying that there's anythingwrong with being gay.
No, my brother's gay. I've got friends that are gay.
That's fine, but I'm not. That's it.
So, you know, when they started that rumor, I was like, you got
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to be kidding me. I remember Paul Heyman said to
me, he goes, Devon, somebody wasdoing an interview with you.
I said, oh, OK. I was like, why are they calling
you? He said because they.
He said because they just found out that you just came out the
closet. I was like, what?
I did. Yeah.
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I was like, I I came out there. I came out the cloud.
But what do you mean came out the closet?
What closet? And he was like, Nevon, I was
like, what? I have no idea what the hell
you're talking about, Paul. I was like, come on.
He was like, did you want an interview and say that you were
on a RuPaul drag queen shot? I said it was a damn joke
between me and the Co host, The two Co hosts that was on there.
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I was like, are you serious? They actually ran with that.
He was like, Oh yeah, the guy want to do an interview with you
and wants to know because I guess this was at the time too
when Darren Young came out. Yep, Yep.
And said that he was gay from TIGuess it was TMZ news or
something like that. And they said I was like Paul,
no I'm not gay. I'm happily married with kids.
I've always I've always been a heterosexual male.
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Please stop the nonsense guys. Bro, they they put that in your
Wikipedia at one point. Remember that They they.
Actually did. They said I was getting out.
Like what the hell? They said it in such and such
year. Devon came out as gay because I
remember seeing that. I was like, oh, okay, wait,
what? Yeah, somebody told me that and
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I went what they did. They did what?
Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I mean, listen, listen, if you
guys want to run with a story, here's a story.
I was camping out in Tennessee and I happened to come out of my
tent and I saw Bigfoot and me and Bigfoot, you know, we had a
party. We, we decided we don't go to a
strip club together and throw a couple of ones and see what we
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can get. So there you go.
There's your story. Let's see if that goes viral.
I went to a strip. I went to a strip club with big
with Bigfoot and not Big Show, Bigfoot, FOOT Bigfoot and we
went to a strip club and threw some singles out some strippers.
So there you go. Let's see if that story runs.
Listen, that's a lot more believable in 2025 than you
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realize. All right?
We got we got a lot going on. Got a?
Lot going on but but let me let me get back to this the first
breaking news here. WWE starting September 20th will
be airing all non NXTPLES on ESPN.
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So for for everybody out there programming note here, literally
in one month if you want to watch WWEPLES, Survivor Series,
Hell in the Cell, Royal Rumble, Mania, the whole SummerSlam, the
whole 9 yards here, you're goingto have to subscribe to ESPN in
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some form of fashion in order tobe able to watch them.
What are your thoughts on that? It's huge.
I mean, look, I never ever thought in a million years that
this company would ever get to that type of revenue or I should
say this type of business. You know, it's incredible.
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And, you know, again, it's a testament not only to what
they're doing today, but the whole set up, you know, with
Vince McMahon. I mean, he started all of this,
you know, and I and I get it. People say, oh, don't give him
credit if number, but where would yeah, I agree.
I agree, BJ, you know, where would we be if he didn't start
this, you know, this ride with everybody?
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So it's an it's an amazing thingto see what's going on now and
the money that is being generated.
Look, these guys are finally nowgetting paid the money that a
lot of them should be getting paid.
I'm a little jealous. I'm a little envious because I
would have loved to been able tomake that type of money right
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off the bat as opposed to going three or four years into it and
then making the money. But you know, these guys are
being able to make it. Again, each generation is
different when it comes to when it comes to, you know, how money
is being made because you know, again, you know, the Hogan and
Andrea, you know, they had the, you know, the amount of money
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that is being generated. Now they would have to work with
our company for years in order to make that type of money.
But now they do it with within ayear of signing the contract,
you know, just depending on who you are and what you doing.
I mean, you know, again, you hear the old stories about if
you didn't work, you didn't get paid.
Now there's guaranteed money, you know, just like the NBA and
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the NFL, you know, amazingly, baseball, you get guaranteed
money now. Now you know, it's just, it's
just a great thing though, man. It really is.
These, these wrestlers are really now getting paid for
putting their bodies on the lineand doing what they're doing.
They're starting, they're starting to get their just due.
I love it. I love it.
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It's it's so fantastic. And like you said, it's a
testament to all of the contributions that all of you,
whoever work for that company have contributed, but especially
Vince McMahon. I mean, this is his, his baby
that's been born into a pretty, pretty healthy adult.
Let's say that, you know what I mean.
It's in my, you know, in my opinion, Duke, it's always going
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to be Vince's baby. They're not taking anything away
from, you know, Nick and and, and Paul.
But again, without Vince, we would not be talking about the
WWE and their everything that he's done to get it to this
level. I mean, we still got to give
Vince credit because again, he took chances when nobody else
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would have taken chances with what he did to make this company
what it was before he left. So, and you know, the thing
about it is, you know, Nick and Paul actually took over where he
left off. So, you know, kudos to those
guys. Kudos to Vince, kudos to the
talent that helped build the WWE.
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You know, when the WWE was called WWF, you know, going back
to your course, the late great Hulk Hogan, the Macho Man,
Random Savage, you know, Roddy, Roddy Piper, you know, Jake the
Snake Roberts, you know, Don Morocco, you know, Mr.
Wonderful, Paul Ondorf, Ace Cowboy, Bob Borden.
I mean, I can sit here and you know, you know, King Tong Bundy,
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Big John Studd, Andre the Giant.I can sit here and talk about
everybody that made the WWE whatit is today.
So good. My hat goes off for them and I'm
happy and proud of those guys are bringing in that type of
money and bringing in that revenue that they're bringing in
now. Here, here, absolutely,
absolutely. So, you know, hopefully this
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this translates into people, more people getting paid more
money. That's always good.
But it just goes back to everybody wants to be in the WWE
business, everybody wants WWE programming, all that.
Maybe I should come out of retirement and do one more run.
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Listen, you're going to start a lot of trouble, man.
You're going to start a lot of trouble.
You keep talking like this because so I go put some money
in your pocket and it make you do it, you know what I mean?
Listen, listen. I think that old Nike slogan,
Just do it. Just do it.
Show me the money. Just do it.
Just do it. Just do it, you know, because I
don't know man, the, the, the Devon Dudley train is is running
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pretty wild out there and I would not be surprised, you
know, look. Listen, I'm still, I'm still
having babies now, so I need that money.
Come on. Because you got a long way to go
before before the last one goes to college.
That's a good point. Now that's that's a.
Good point. 1717 years from now that I have every bit of it man,
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me being a father at you know what I think he was.
How old was I? I'm 53 now.
So he was, I was 5052 when he was born.
I was, I'm sorry, I was 51. I was 51 when he was born.
And you know, I'll be honest with you, the one of the
greatest things that I could have ever done, you know, not,
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not, no, you know, 52, you know,people are like, Oh my God, 51.
Oh my God, you're 50 years old. Listen, I love kids.
I love them when they're babies.I love them when they're eight
years old and starting to talk back to you.
I love them as teenagers becausethen I can beat them up and get
away with it. No, but you know, I love them as
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adults. I love watching them grow and
become the fine young men and women that they become.
I just love kids. And This is why I have 7 kids
and there's no regression. Oh my God, seven kids.
That's a lot of kids. But people don't understand
this. Four of my kids are already
grown, you know, so I am. I only got 3.
I only got 3 that's in the housenow, you know, So I have the my
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7 year old daughter, my 6 year old daughter and my almost 222
year old son. And people go, oh, that's a lot.
But for you it's a lot. For me it's nothing.
You know, I love it you. I absolutely love it.
You got a whole basketball team over there that that's just the
way it is, man, you know? Yes, I do.
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And again, you know what, come Thanksgiving, come Christmas, my
house is filled. You know, it'll never go empty.
So I'm happy about that and seeing this little, you know,
this little peanut, I call him, he's sitting next to me right
now while I'm doing the show. You know, he's, he's my pride
and joy. I love all my kids the same.
Never had any favorites but thislittle guy right here man, he
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steals our hearts. This is incredible.
I love man. You you.
You got a lot of a lot of love. You sharing this week, huh?
Well, yeah, man, again, I love, I love every bit of these guys.
I really do. Yeah.
My pride and joy, they're the ones that keep me going.
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You know, I used to tell people all the time, how do you take
these? How do you take those chair
shots and these CW and things like that?
I said, well, I had, you know, twin boys Terrence and Terrell,
who I wanted to take care of andmade sure that their lives were
secure. And every time you know I would
hurt or couldn't get up, I'd think about them and pop right
up. This is this is awesome.
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The father of the year, Devon Dudley over here, folks, I'm
trying to tell you something. Now you know who who there's.
A There's a lot of fathers out there like me.
You don't hear too much about them, but they're out there.
Well, I'm I just have a platformwhere I can put it out there.
I'm going to, I'm going to tell the Hardy boys right now, make
sure your kids are there to watch you get the whooping of a
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lifetime. So, so, so they know they can
always say, Dad, if you keep messing with me, I'm gonna get
Uncle Devon. I'm gonna get Uncle Bubba after
you make sure your kids are there.
Go put that out there. Listen, I'm gonna keep starting
trouble with that, bro. You already know.
Especially Jeff, you know, 'cause Jeff, Jeff, every time I
see Jeff now, he laughs at me. He goes, Devon, you want to
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hang? I go FI go F you.
Jeff, I ain't hanging with you nowhere ever again.
I was like, if he laughs, he cracks up.
He thinks it's the funniest thing in the world.
I said I'm going to stop doing interviews and saying this
because you're getting the crackout of all of this crap.
That's it. And you know, you scared me half
to death. You want to hang?
He's full of crap. Listen to him.
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You want to hang? Come on, babe.
I was like this, 'cause you got 10 lives don't mean that I do
Shit, I don't even have 9 lives.Your ass got 10 and.
He's still going He. Got one up, still going not and
I said something. I don't know how the hell he
still goes and his body, he still does the things that he
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does. Good God, my body would have
been screaming a long time ago. Please.
Stop. That dude is on another level,
man. He's on.
He might be from outer space, you know, Speaking of Speaking
of outer space, listen to this. Now.
Here we go. I'm about to throw something at
you that you probably don't evenknow.
Devon. Talk to me.
There is an object that had beendiscovered by astronomers back
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in July of this year and it's identified as an interstellar
object that's moving through oursolar system at an unusually
high speed. Now they've they've identified
this object, they're calling it three I Atlas.
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And a group of scientists, astrophysicists by the way, are
concerned that this may be an extraterrestrial spacecraft that
is essentially mapping our solarsystem.
He says. It's one of the guys says it's
an unusual size retrograde orbitand it's acceleration, you know,
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the speed at which it moves is evidence of some type of
technology being used. It may be nuclear powered, quite
frankly. So Devon, you and I have never
spoken about outer space and aliens or anything like that.
But this is probably the most compelling evidence that we've
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ever had that there may be life out there.
And not only that, that that life is actually looking for
something. It may stumble across us.
What are your thoughts on the possibility that there's an
alien spacecraft that is out there floating around that close
to us? You know, me and Bubba used to
have these talks. Sometimes when you have long car
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rock, a long car rides, you can't.
Yeah. I mean, believe it or not, but
me and Bubba used to have some interesting conversations.
And believe it or not, I mean, that was one of them.
And the Bible was another. Bubba I used to have
conversations about, you know, and of course, I knew a little
bit more than Bubba. So he would ask me questions and
I would, you know, break it downto him.
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But you know, we can't honestly think that we're the only ones
here. You got to be very foolish to
think that if you believe in Godand things like that, you going
to sit there and tell me that God only made earth and put
people here and that was it? You know, there's a reason why,
you know that you can't go that far out to find anybody else.
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You know, maybe because he doesn't want you to find anybody
else yet. Maybe the time is coming.
We're we're going to find out that there's things out there
other than us. I just find it hard pressing for
you to think that we're the onlyones here.
We're not the only ones here. We're just we think we are, but
we're not. There might be other places that
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they get it. They get it right, you know, and
they're actually doing, you know, what they're supposed to
do to keep their planet safe andsound and all of that.
Maybe the people over there, youknow, if they call people, maybe
they're the real deal. Maybe, you know, they know how
to survive and keep things goingand not live in this crazy world
(45:29):
that we live in right now. I'm going to tell you right now,
man, I have a theory about this whole thing because we, we've,
we've come to realize that our Galaxy is just one of many
galaxies. And when we say galaxies, we
literally mean all the planets for the most part that we can
see within our solar system. But what happens if we're just
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one of many? There are, there are countless
galaxies out there. So just like you said,
statistically, it's improbable that, that we're the only life
forms that exist. So my theory is that we're part
of a body. What if space is just literally
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a body of a living Organism and all the planets and things like
that are just molecules. There's something bigger and
greater and what have you. And we're just like a tiny grain
of sand as a as a planet amongstumpteenth, you know, grains of
sand in this body. And what if the body is God?
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So. You don't know.
You just don't know. You just don't.
Just don't know. But, but we're getting into a
scary period in life where with the quantum computers and the AI
and, you know, the, the advancesand, and, and different forms of
technology, we're starting to get answers like we've never
gotten them before. And I would not be surprised,
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Yvonne, in our lifetime, if it'spossible to actually visit
another planet commercially, like literally we could, we
could take a tour and and visit a planet for a day.
I wouldn't be surprised. At least the moon I wouldn't be
surprised. You know another thing, you
know, me and Bubba, we discussed, I forgot how we
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brought it, how we said it, but it was like, you know, we always
talk about heaven and hell, you know, but let's just say
nothing, nothing. Not talking about hell.
Let's just say heaven. What if no, in another Galaxy
where heaven is somewhere else and God just takes you when you
die in your soul and re puts youover there, you know, and puts
you over there. You, you, you never know, you
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know, because the Bible says, you know, there's going to be a
new earth. There's going to be a new
something where everybody who isin the book of life and
everybody that God, you know, was going to bring over is going
to bring over to that place and that's where you're going to be.
Who's to say that that place isn't already formed with our
grandmothers and, you know, uncles and brothers and sisters
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that have passed on from this world?
Maybe they're at that world, youknow, put it in perspective.
You just, you just don't know. And again, maybe they're getting
it right over there. What if you get to relive your
life just on another planet? And you realize the mistakes
that you've done and now you can, you know, as opposed to you
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go onto that other planet reliving your life instead of
going your memory going blank like you don't have any
recollection, recollection of what you've done here.
Maybe you go to this another, you know, this planet and you do
have recollections because maybethis is God's way of saying, OK,
you know what you did wrong. Now let's see if you would fix
it and put you over there. Wouldn't that be heaven?
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Wouldn't that be heaven? That would be great.
No, I think that'd be more than I think it would be phenomenal,
you know, because again, we've all made mistakes.
We all wish that we can go back.We all wish that, you know, we
can do things. Who's to say that you can't, who
say that God wouldn't put you there?
There's so many things that the mind can, you know, think about
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in terms of stuff like that. But who's to say it doesn't work
that way, Steve, You know, having to be somewhere else.
Yeah, it really is deep. There's so many things, so many
conversations that you could have with somebody that has
probably looked into it more deeper than we could ever look
into. Sure, sure.
I, I always wonder about this though, if this, if there is an
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alien spacecraft, for lack of a better term, and it is in our,
our solar system and, and let's say they are coming up, they
want to observe Earth, no different from how we're
observing other planets and things like that with our
spacecraft out there. We know as human beings.
History has proven to us that when outsiders go into a new
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territory, either the people whobelong to that territory or the
outsider, somebody's going to attack somebody.
That is human nature. That's what history has shown
us. Is, is is inevitable.
So. So here's my question to you,
Devon. You got 7 kids.
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They got long lives to live way beyond us.
If you had the decision to make,do you allow the alien
spacecraft to get close enough to Earth to actually land on
Earth, or do you shoot it down? Oh no, that's a tough one.
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I'm on, I'm on you on this one. Now see, we we got the Pilgrims,
we got the Pilgrims landing, youknow, on Plymouth Rock and we
got the Native Americans alreadyhere.
The natives welcome them. And then they ended up
slaughtering the natives and enslaving them and stuff like
that. So, so history has shown us why
you have to be mistrusting of strangers, so to speak.
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But we also have situations where the natives drove off the
strangers because it's like, no,you ain't coming here for that.
I believe that our leaders wouldshoot the aircraft down.
I don't think they would allow it to come here, but would you
allow it? Because of fear.
Because of fear. But what about you?
How trusting are you? I don't know.
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I mean, again, I would say yes. And then I can say no, I don't
know. I mean, this is what society
does to you. It puts fear for no reason.
You know, that's like asking thequestion, you know, a racist
person back in the 50s and 60s, you know, they were racist and
did not like black people for the simple fact because they
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didn't take the time to understand black people.
They didn't take the, you know, the knowledge to, to know what
we were about. So they didn't know.
They were only hearing stories what their grandfathers and
great grandfathers and history has told them.
You know, they never really sat down with a black man or a black
woman to find out what we were about and how we really were.
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They didn't take the time to learn our culture.
We were forced to learn everybody else's culture but our
own. So, you know, again, when you
have these racist people out there that have no idea about us
being African American or, or the correct word and what we
like to say is black people, youknow, why?
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Why is that, you know, an issue?You know, why is that a problem?
Because again, it should not be.There should not be fear.
If you understand, then there should not be any fear, you
know, and that's the thing. People fear what they don't
understand. Absolutely.
I think that's what I think that's what I'm trying to get
at. People feel what they don't
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understand. And so for me to shoot down
something that might come to Earth and I don't know what it
is. Why?
Because I don't know. That's what they've done here on
Earth. They made you program to do
that. Because if we don't know what it
is, then guess what? We're going to shoot it down.
We're going to take it hostage. We're going to keep it, you
know, and, and, and run all sorts of tests and see what they
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got for what you know. Suppose you went to that to that
planet, did the same thing and you landed on there.
Would would you want them to experiment you and cut you open?
No. Wow, good point all.
Right. Good point.
Yeah. You know, I mean, it's it's one
of those things and you just don't know.
You don't fear and you can't fear something that you
understand, but you fear things that you don't understand.
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And that's what happens. If you think about a lot of, you
know, the 40s, fifties and 60s, you know, that's what was going
on with a lot of people during races, during the race wars and
all that. They didn't understand.
They were just going by generation, the generation of
what they were being told about,about black people and how they
should treat us a certain way and not give us rights to do
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this and this because we're not human beings or what have you.
And it went down from generationto generation.
And then, of course, when you had those that said, wait a
minute, why am I fearing black people when I have no idea about
them? Maybe I should get to learn.
And those people were criticizedbecause they did that.
But think about the ones that did that didn't make a
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difference and did change the way society is now.
Well said, well said. And it's it's it's ironic
because you know that that leadsme to another good point here.
Shout out to you, man. Our Truth Ron, the Truth
Killings. He was actually able to debut on
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the Billboard country albums charts.
It's amazing. I I think he was, he was in the
top 15, his latest album. So, so truth put out a country
album. It's it's country rap.
So it's, it's a, it's a modernized version of the
country, but it's still a country album.
When you talk about the racism that this country has gone
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through through the years to Fast forward to 2025, if you
took somebody from the from the 20s, thirties, 40s, fifties,
from the 1800s, seventeen hundreds and you'd pluck them,
drop them in in 2025. And our truth is one of the the
most popular country artists with an album out right now, I'm
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sure their head would explode, right?
It's like. Listen, when I saw the movie
When I saw the movie, Ray, of course, about Ray Charles being
portrayed by Jamie Foxx, I had no idea that Ray Charles did
country music. The majority of his music was
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country music. I had no idea until I.
Yeah, the number one country album, bro, he had the number
one country album in the nation.I had no idea about that.
So, you know, it's, it's, it's amazing to me.
So, you know, this whole thing, you know, again, it's all about
not understanding and not giving, not trying to
understand. You know, this world could be
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such a better place, but yet we single out somebody's color,
nationality, things like that inorder to determine what type of
person this person is. And it's wrong, you know, in
regards to how many people have said it's wrong, but it's wrong.
And never have we ever tried to fix it.
We say we try, but we don't, we don't try.
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We don't really try, you know, Imean, again, does it matter
whether the person's color, skin, it shouldn't matter.
But because we don't understand,we fear.
And when we fear, that's when wrong is being about to be done.
It's true. It's true.
Now listen, my my lady asked me this question here, Devon.
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So I'm going to I'm going to putyou on the spot and ask you
this. Now that our truth is a is a big
time country artist because we're not talking just regular
charts, we're not talking, we'retalking Billboard.
That's that's it. That's the big one.
So he had to have sold enough albums or, you know, had enough
digital plays in order to debut that high up on the charts
(57:13):
there. So now that our truth is doing
it, when are we going to get theDevon Dudley country album?
Man, listen, I better learn how to hit a note first before I
even think about doing some damncountry music.
Come on though. You don't want to, no, you don't
want. You know, I used to sing in the
in the choir and things like that in church and then I got to
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ECW and I started screaming and yelling, not knowing how to use
my vocals, you know, my vocal cords correct and all that.
I lost my debut. If you go back and look at it.
April 13th, 1996 Queens lost Battalion Hall.
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When I ran in and I was introduced for the first time, I
basically lost my voice. I you know, I came down and I'm
screaming and yelling thou shallnot F what the day I'm screaming
at. The crowd was like crazy that
night and I got caught up into it and completely lost my voice.
(58:18):
I was supposed to put a promo after all the chaos and I
couldn't speak. Wow.
I literally, I literally lost myvoice, all the yelling and
screaming and trying to be talking with the fans.
And at one point I was able to hold notes and everything, you
know, singing. Like I said, I sing in the
choir. And then after a few years in
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ECW lost it because I damaged myvocal cords and to the point
where I couldn't hit those notesanymore.
So no duets with R Truth. He ain't going to be putting out
the country album. If I do listen, I'll be
speaking, he'll be singing. Listen, congratulations.
True. Seriously, man, it is a major,
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major honor to be able to debut so high on the Billboard charts
and it's country, it's country music, man, that that's I'm
blown away by it. That's that's good stuff there.
So definitely want to get that in one more.
Brian Josie. So he was Abraham Washington,
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the WWE. In fact, he was the original
manager for crime time. Brian Josie had some serious
health issues last month. He was in the hospital for a
while. He went in for one thing and
then other things started happening.
Next thing you know they they had him on life support.
At one point he spent almost a month in the hospital and his
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lovely lady Marnay was there by his side the whole way.
To make a Long story short, he recently was was discharged,
he's back home and he's actuallyable to walk on his own and
everything. So almost a full recovery for
this guy and he's a he's a bodybuilder and all that stuff,
man. In fact, he just won a
tournament right before he had to go into the hospital.
(01:00:09):
So he's all muscled up all that,but just want to give a shout
out to Brian, Josie and his family and, and just let him
know, man, you can't stop a stepper, brother.
Keep, keep going. Thank God you're OK.
Thank God that you were able to overcome those challenges,
right? Absolutely, my prayers and
thoughts are with you on an evenmore speedy recovery and you
(01:00:31):
right back to normal where you once were before all of this.
God bless you my brother. Yeah, God, God bless Brian for
sure. Folks on on Instagram, Brian,
Josie, Joss i.e. follow them, send them some words of
encouragement, the whole 9 yards.
Again, shout out to his lady Marnay.
She she was doing post updating everything, which was really,
(01:00:55):
really challenges bro, because, you know, I, I think he's going
to come home tomorrow and the next thing you know, they put
him on life support. I don't know what's going on,
just the, the ebb and flow of that was tough, especially on
the heels of losing Hulk Hogan, you know what I mean?
And which we're now realizing and, and, and some information
came out that it may be medical malpractice.
(01:01:18):
Hulk Hogan's passing. It may not have been as natural
as folks try to pass it off as at first.
So, you know, folks, be careful in these hospitals, man.
You who, whoever your, your, your person is who's supposed to
be looking out for you, they gotto ask the right questions and
they got to stay on top of everything because you never
(01:01:40):
know, you know? Absolutely.
Dustin Rose caught some heat because he said hospitals
sometimes kill people and and people gave Dustin a hard time
for saying that. But now you realize, you know he
may have a point there anyway. Hey, we've got to be careful.
(01:02:03):
We might be trending on that so.I was going to say, that'll be
the next thing. You know, Devon and the Duke
don't don't believe in hospitals.
No, it ain't about that. It's just that trust.
We verified. Make sure you're looking out for
your people. Anytime my mom or my sister have
to have to go in for surgery or anything like that, my lady
would have you. I'm.
I stay on top of it all, man. I want to know everything.
What's going on, how long it's going to take, what's happening.
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I need to know it all. You know what I mean?
I got to stay on top of it because you never know.
But with that said, Devon, what's the best way everybody
can keep up with you, man? You know, to my YouTube channel,
Devon Dudley YouTube and also testified Devon on Instagram as
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well as Twitter. Facebook is private.
Don't really allow anybody unless you're family and
friends, unless I've known you for over 30 something years.
You've broken bread with me, been at my house, you know my
family. That's only on Facebook, but
testify Devon on Instagram and again the YouTube channel.
Like and subscribe and enjoy thevideos.
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Indeed, indeed and and folks, asalways, do close wrestling on
Facebook, on twitterdoclosewrestling@gmail.com.
Let me know what you think of the show, send in your
questions, shout outs, the whole9 yards.
Thank you to all of you out there who have continued to keep
Devon and I viral. And in this landscape where
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there's so much going on, the fact that stuff that is said on
this show matters enough that you folks keep talking about it.
So it has to be covered by all these dirt sheets and and, you
know, Sports News and things like that.
That's pretty impressive. It's pretty impressive, but it
doesn't happen without you. So keep, keep spreading the
word, folks, please. All right, it's that time of the
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week, brother. What?
What do you got for the word of the week?
Well, you know, I really didn't have one until I started talking
about the Me and Brian at Wrestle Came, but I'm going to
try to put it in my own words and maybe you can understand it.
You know, get all your facts straight first before you let
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your anger get the best of you. And what I mean by that is get
everything down. Know what the situation is
first, because what you're beingtold may not be the truth.
Testify. My brother.
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