Dillon Hines & Bobby Fulton: Duke Loves Rasslin Week 442

Dillon Hines is a pro wrestling event promoter alongside his father Bobby Fulton of the popular 80's tag team the Fantastics. Despite years of respect and reverence from fans and wrestlers for Bobby, Dillon at times has found himself being called out for his business practices and the way he speaks to people. In this exclusive interview, listen as both Dillon and Bobby address:

• - WWE Hall Of Famer Devon Dudley calling Dillon out on the Week 441 episode of Duke Loves Rasslin
• - Bobby battling throat Cancer
• - Bobby taking issue with people being "jealous" of Dillon
• - Did Dillon forge Lex Luger's signature and then sell it to a fan?
• - What happened regarding Sting, his Agents and Dillion and will they continue to do business?
• - Bobby Fulton feeling frustrated over Dillon addressing these issues in the media
• - Dillion announcing he's retiring from being a Wrestling event promoter at the end of 2024
• - Much More!

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Brothers and sisters, welcome back to Duke Club's Wrestling
Podcast, a show about pro wrestling and everything else.
Last episode we had WWE Hall of Famer Devon Dudley and he had a
lot to say about Dylan Hines, the the son of Bobby Fulton.
In fact, I'm going to play in its entirety what Devon had to

(02:02):
say about Dylan. So check this out folks.
Well, basically the people who brought me into the show in
Chillicothe, OH, basically we get there with Roberto Dorio and
we couldn't find the table. So they tried to contact Dylan

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and pretty much said, hey Dylan,you know we can't find our
table, what's going on? And people have already made
their way inside the building. So it was a little hectic.
And he kind of brushed them off.And he was like, I don't have
time right now, you know, go find my father and this and
that. You know, find or find the table
yourselves. I can't find.
I can't help you right now. And I was like, wow, I said, OK.

(02:45):
And so there had been a few times after that where he passed
by, didn't say hello, didn't sayanything or apologize for that
little thing. So no big deal.
So then he comes over and he just rolls some 8 by 10s, or
they were bigger than 8 by 10s. But he threw him on the table

(03:06):
and said tell Devon to sign these.
Number one, I'm not signing anything.
You can't even come up to me andsay hello.
But yet. You gonna throw something on the
desk and tell the people that brought me in?
Just tell Devon to sign these. Number one, I don't work for you
regardless if it's your show or not.
And it's not even your show. It's your father's show.

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And he tried to pretty much tellme that.
Oh no, this is my show. I said OK, without your father,
without Bobby, you wouldn't havewhat you have right now.
And he goes, you're not going tosign this.
I go no. When you act like that, no, I'm
not going to sign it. He goes, well, get out, pack
your stuff and and you guys haveto leave.

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And I'm not going anywhere. I was like, if if you want me to
go somewhere, have your father tell me, then I'll walk.
I was like, but you're there, you're dumbass.
And I ain't moving. Well, I'll get the.
I'll call the police and have your score down.
I think you better do that. By the way.
When you do that, you better have an ambulance on the way.
Because by the time the cops come in to escort me, they're

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going to be, I'm going to be in cuffs and your ass going to be
wheeled off in an ambulance. That I promise you.
And you know he started trying to be all tough and that.
And I told him, I said I will knock your head clear off your
shoulders. I was like I.
You bet you better back up. And then his father came over.
Bobby and was like, hey, what's going on?
I said, Bobby, your son is beingvery rude and this and that

(04:32):
about signing something that I had no knowledge of signing.
And Dylan kept trying to intervene until Bobby told him
to shut up and be respectful. And basically at that point he
kept talking to the point where Bobby, his own father, threw him
out the building and apparently he was having problems with

(04:55):
other people there as well. Sandman, Francine Guido, Jimmy
Hart and poor Bill Abner was only doing his job, came in
because of his fault, because ofBobby Fulton and Dylan gets mad
at him is and tells, tells what's his name?

(05:16):
That you're fired. Don't come back here.
He fired Bill after the the legend Bill after.
Legend Bill After he goes You'refired.
Get out because he wouldn't bow down to Dylan or wouldn't do
what Dylan said. So he fired him.
And then Bobby find that, found out about it until he's like,

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don't worry about that. You're not fired.
Go ahead and do your thing. So he had to pretty much cover
up for his son. But again, these are incidents
that I'm hearing that has been happening a lot with him.
And you know, my thing is, you know when is enough's enough
with this guy, you know? And then he had the nerve to

(05:59):
tell me you'll never work for meagain.
I promise you that. I said good 'cause I don't work
for you. Now I go.
What is your problem? I said what are you that
deranged? I don't even work for you.
How the hell you gonna. I'm not gonna work for you ever
again. I don't work for you.
I don't even like you. And I told his father.
I said, you know what? I will do this for you.

(06:22):
I will. I will do this for you.
I'll sign it for you. But for Dylan.
I have no respect for her. OK, folks, you heard once again
what what Devon had to say aboutDylan Hines and here at Duke
loves wrestling. You know how we do it.
Anyone who's ever mentioned on this show has a fair opportunity
to come on and and provide a rebuttal, give their side of

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things what have you, You know, that's the way that we do it.
So because of that, we have two special guests here.
This episode, we have literally one of the greatest wrestlers of
all time, Mr. Bobby Fulton and his son, the subject, the person
that Devon was speaking about, Dylan Hines.
So without further ado, welcome to Duke Loves wrestling, fellas.

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How you doing doing? Good.
How you? Doing.
Not bad, not bad. We're doing very, we're doing
very fantastic today. Yes, Sir.
That's that's Bobby there. Now listen, Dylan, I I know that
we have a lot to touch upon and I know Bobby has a lot to say,
but you have a prepared statement and I think it's

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important for folks to hear thatright from the beginning there.
So I'm going to, I'm going to turn my mic off.
Dylan, why don't you go over your statement for us please,
and then we'll jump right into it.
So First off, I listened to thisclip of the podcast Devon
multiple times and a couple things I gathered before I go

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into my rebuttal was this. He said I said things that were
not too nice to Devon, which is false.
I was nice and professional until being threatened and then
I never threw the photos on the table.
I handed them to Erica and reminded her of the agreement as
I continued walking to get the other photos out to be signed at
the end. Of course, at the end of that

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clip you could hear Devon's continuous threats that are even
continuing today. So my rebuttal, Erica and Jeff
of Frizzle Promotions were very unprofessional and showed up to
the event late. The signing started at 11 for
premium ticket holders and 12 for general admission.
Vendors were to be set up by 11:00 AM.
Erica approached me at 12:30 while I was bringing Kurt Angle

(08:32):
to his table. They had asked me where their
table was. I informed them that I was
unsure as a couple team members are the ones that handled the
table arrangements and I was I was handling taking care of our
headliner and getting him to histable.
I had a deal with high spots which Erica and her brother were
informed of days prior that their talent would need to sign
20 photos per in exchange for their free table and every other

(08:57):
vendor knew this as well. Same goes for everyone else.
No one else had an issue except one other vendor that paid the
table fee. Why not?
I'm handling other stuff as usually at my events.
I'm pulled in 20 different directions.
I circled back to the table Alberto and Devon were sitting
at to see if the photos have been signed yet Erica informs me
that Devon refuses as I didn't greet him when he walked in.

(09:19):
My apologies for that, but unfortunately I don't get to
hang out and save everyone at the Fan Fest as I'm dealing with
lots of stuff at one time, very different than when I'm at a
vendor at another person's event.
During the situation, I informedthe vendor that if they couldn't
get the photos signed, they'd owe a fee of $400.00 for the
table, which they refused. I approached Tom Hill, A-Team

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member for the events and one ofour security personnel, and he
witnessed Erica's brother Jeff threatening me, informing me
that if I were to not step away from his table, he was going to
put blood on my shoes. Good blood.
Yep, he's got my blood on my shoes when this takes place.
I informed them that they could leave peacefully or I'd have to
get law enforcement involved as I've been threatened.

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My father walks up to the scene and attempts to dissolve the
situation. While he's talking to Jeff and
Erica, Devon is telling me to jump and all sorts of other
threats. I left the scene after my father
requested me to as the situationwas getting out of hand.
My father hadn't been informed I'd been threatened by the
vendor and Devon yet I attemptedto be the better man and

(10:23):
apologize through phone calls and texts as well as approaching
Devon on March 23rd and event wewere at, he told.
Which was yesterday, Saturday. He told me he'd accept my
father's apology but not mine. That's Devon shows how
unprofessional he is and he is not a man of character as he
refused to set my apology as a man.
That's a lot. That's a lot, Bobby.

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Yes. I want to hear from you because
that that's a that's a very fullstatement there by Dylan, his
perspective. I want to hear your perspective.
There and. What you saw what happened, man?
All right, well, I'm going to bevery clear about this.
Years ago, in wrapping, if someone had to be for someone,
they surely didn't get on the Telegraph and start telling

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everybody about it. It should be something personal
between two people. If I have a problem with you,
I'm gonna come to you personallyand say, hey, let's work this
out. Or let's agree that this should
be a couple of things I heard and I just jumped with Eve on

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yesterday. Couple things I heard.
I want to set the record straight on that Devon said #1.
These shows are my, are, are my son shows I am.
I am in the background and I am running around and I am trying
to advise them but but these arejust as much my son shows as my

(11:53):
show because with my health I would not be able to pull such
these events off and you can go we were just with we were just
with Sabu yesterday and he said this is these are the best your
shows are the best shows I've seen in years.

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If ever. Sonny Ono says these shows are
the best shows that I've ever seen.
If ever. Brett Hart when we had him met
with Marty Wright and Charlie Rado because Brett was sliding
on the cavalry he said that showwas the best show I've ever been

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to if not ever especially on theindependent bank.
Listen, these events that we do,we do twice a year and and
believe you believe you me, they're very hard to do when you
have 45 people coming from 45 different directions.

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And not to mention we don't really do a fan fest but we do a
super show and as you know when you got that many jobs do you
understand what I'm saying by jobs that many jobs cogs in the
world and I want everybody to know I haven't been drinking.
I've had throat cancer and that's why I job the way I do so

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but I don't have it now so I'm I'm with that perfectly clear so
so with that being said when when vendors show up late to the
show once it's already started it's very hard because because
all hills breaking loose we've got we have tons of people at

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our vet every every vendor makesbig money at our shows.
So we started saying this eitherpay table rent or we want you to
decide money pictures per talentthat you have at your table and
we supply the pictures you have to give them to us and that is

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in lieu of the table fee becauseeverybody makes real good money
at ourselves or for the most part almost everybody.
I'm I'm talking about not only the talent but the vendors there
like Ralph Ferrazino and and Jeff Zezo and Alan Zora.

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I mean every everybody's able tomake big money because we have a
tremendous turn out and our reputation speaks for ourselves
as far as that goes. So all of a sudden on this
particular issue I'm loving around, we're putting out little
fires the other than I and I hear what's going on.

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Because actually fans starting to gather and listening to this,
this exchange between my son andand and and Devon and and
actually the fans, because look,the professional wrestling, we
work for the fans and without them we have nothing.

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And when I seen them standing around listening to this stuff
going on, I just jumped, jumped into the fray without hearing
both sides of the story. But Devon, Devon said he
disrespected me and I just wanted to put the fire out as
quick as possible because I didn't know the whole story.

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And Dylan left and it was fine. So I went up yesterday and
dropped the Devon again. I didn't, I didn't realize that
this really. I mean I know he's travelled all
over the world and I like, I like and I and I like him
personally. But I didn't realize that before

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the offenders did Rome that he said it's so personal as if we
were we we were disrespecting him and that was not the case.
Dylan mentioned that he is fable.
He didn't come up. Say hello to me, did he, Dylan?
And then we have one other person.
One other that person. Tell me you didn't come up and

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stay alone. I I said.
We've got so many things going on.
Not only not only we we have thefan best.
We we we have everything. But I'm getting the story.
So when I told Dylan the backup is dead, I didn't know that the
vendor told my son. If you don't leave my table,

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your bloods will be on your feet.
Brother, that is communicating athreat.
And that I am sure, how obsessedyou are when you communicate a
threat like that at serious business at the lawful issue.
And and Devon must not have beeninformed of what his vendors

(17:08):
have brought him in. Did an arrangement that made
prior to the fact. Do you get me?
Is there anything you don't understand what I'm saying?
No. I I hear you loud and clear.
I'm. I'm what?
You tell me what I said about either you pay the rent or you
sign the 20 pictures we supply and lieu of the rent, do you do

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you understand that what I'm saying?
Yes, Sir, yes. Sir.
Very clear. That's it.
You can come to our event make lots of money.
You're welcome. Like I said we have probably
50-5 different vendors. So.
So I didn't know. He said your blood your own

(17:51):
blood will be on your shoes and this is this is and I'm not
joking you you can tell by the way I talk.
I do not. I'm not in the best of health.
I mean I've observed, but I'm. I'm a shell of the man I was was
without my son, these events would not be going on and he's

(18:11):
not telling me to say this. This is something I want people
to know. Yes, I I've been a naming
professional wrestling. I've been around for years so a
lot of people just say Bobby Folken's young, but this is as
much as my son's Joe of mine, ifnot more.
Now I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to get to this though.

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Devon apparently didn't understand the situation but was
not explained to. And I I I don't, I don't, I
don't. I don't believe in my mind for
one second that that, that he's just asked his vendor, which is
his boss for the day. We all have a boss.

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My boss that day is the fans andeverybody that comes the event
and the vendors and everybody. He's going to ask them what's
going on here instead of that guy threatening my son.
Then then then after we talked to Steve on yesterday and like
Dylan said, he said if you ask me if you ask for, for my

(19:14):
forgiveness and I'm doing that out of being a gentleman.
That's why I said that I, I and then I hear him threaten my son
about the ambulance and stuff onyour shelf.
That's not very professional. Listen, I've been in this
business since 1970, seven, 1977.

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I we're in the business of toughguys, of mean guys and nasty
guys and you get down right through the guys if you have to.
But I I would never, ever publicly threaten someone like
Yvonne did because #1. That's a lawful issue to

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communicate the threat, is it not?
It could be, absolutely. It could be.
That's what. I'm being rich saying but
neither is this day. I I I came on here to say that
really deep down is I told Dylanthis.
From now on if offender is not set up by 11 when the when they
show them people come in Dylan. Now I know the fans, but I'm

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talking about and premium peoplecome in.
I'm not going to have no vendorsset up no more.
If there's we we have, we have even set up the day before up
until 4:00 or from eight O 11 and they can't do that.
Then when they come in, they're not going to be able to set up
because I didn't understand if somebody's shore breaks down or

(20:48):
whatever or they. But just to have people when all
Hell's breaking loose. And what I mean is when you got
thousands of people in a building, it's hard to say, hey,
where's my table? Because I'm the one that set the
tables up. Dylan did not do that.
I'm the one that placed the names and stuff like that and

(21:09):
and and everything. So so really Dylan, Dylan, Dylan
on this. And I'm not just saying it
because it's my son but it's getting the wrong the wrong
accusation And I I I still don'tthink Devon understands what
really happened. And and I'm just putting this

(21:32):
down here because because I am II don't like to do pop jazz #1
because the way I talk now and but I I and and and I just want
people to know that Devon's not the bad guy that that Devon says
And I'm not saying Devon's jealous or nothing like that.

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But I can't tell you if when youhave Bret Hart say this is one
of the best events I've ever been to organize everything.
When you have him say that when you have other talent that's
been in the business for years. Talk about your events and Sabu
who doesn't do a lot of confidence that ma'am you you

(22:17):
guys event in Ohio and Sonny Oh no all the MO dragon.
All these other people say this is unreal because as wrestling
as it's supposed to be, I I put a lot of my time from the 70s
and on up from the wrestling andthen puts his stuff in from

(22:38):
nowadays on. But because of the Internet, I
know nothing of it. I I wouldn't be doing these
events. As a matter of fact, I've ran
shows for years, but I never didFan Fest and things and that was
all Dylan's idea. So a lot of people say a lot of
things about Dylan sometimes, and I don't understand why.

(23:02):
And but I will say this and I I will say this publicly.
I I don't want that vendor ever to come back to my show that
threatened to leave the blood ofmy son on his feet.
Do you have a son? No, Sir.
You. Have children at all.
No, Sir, I I've mentored many, but no none of my I understand.

(23:25):
Well, I'm just saying, anybody listening to my voice, if if
someone was to say your blood will be on your shoes, that's
that's pretty heavy, isn't it? Yeah, no, No doubt about it.
No doubt about it. Me.
Listen, it's after. Reneging on the deal and then

(23:47):
tell them they will help you getthe hell out.
And then they're saying now do you want to stand by the
ambulance station now? I mean, I mean, I'm being
honest. I don't want no trouble with
nobody. I'm on here for the simple fact
that here I am, 62 years old, not a healthy man coming on the
podcast explaining our side of the story and we shouldn't even

(24:11):
be on here because really there's no story.
I I feel like this was a statement from Jerry
Springerstone Family Feud. Like I said in my day, we helped
things out and didn't error our dreamlessness, but it really
broke my heart when Zee Bomb came on and and and said the

(24:32):
things she said. Because apparently he wasn't in
the know and you know how it is with his talents.
Different vendors bring them to different events, and when a
vendor they're boss to the day and I don't care who you are in
wrestling, if you're working fora vendor, you have a boss that

(24:52):
day when he when he makes the deal and then reneges on it when
he doesn't hold up his end of the burden.
There's a problem there, Capisce.
Capisce, for sure. Listen, Barbie, you know that
Devon also expressed A tremendous amount of reverence

(25:12):
and respect for you personally. I have.
Nothing. I have nothing but that for him.
I want to make sure that we're we're clear on that.
I know. Put you over and I haven't said
nothing bad about him on here. Absolutely.
I I that's fair. Explaining that I was just
explaining that Devon has children and he wouldn't want

(25:35):
his children threatened like that either.
Sure. Now now and and Dylan, feel free
to jump in on this. The way that it was framed to
me, right, and not just from Devon but from other folks who
were there, was that this was essentially a pissing contest
between two guys. And Dylan expressed that he was

(25:56):
willing to engage in in physicalaltercation himself.
Now, Dylan, I want to ask you directly, did you at any point
express to Devon that you want to fight well?
Hey, hey, I'm going to stop you right here.
Have you seen my son? Yes, Sir.
Have you seen? Devon Dudley, yes.

(26:16):
Sir. I, I, I I think my son would be.
My son is a jolly graduate. I think my son would be a total
idiot. Just say, just say I'm willing
to fight you right now. Now I will say this.
I will say this. We did have people there for
that purpose if if needed be. My son's not going to fight

(26:41):
nobody. And I, I I I'm going to tell you
that right now. But I I'm going to ask you this.
If I came on your podcast and I agreed to do certain things and
then when I got on here I agreednot to do them, is that not
wrong? Absolutely all.
Right. Wouldn't you be hurt?

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Absolutely. All right, then the whole thing
started because the vendor was in the wrong and he didn't tell.
Zevon didn't get the message. Apparently.
We we we had, we had a deal withthe guy and if you have a deal
with the guy then you have a deal with the guy.

(27:25):
We have a line of vendors wanting to come to our next
event October the 19th and and and as a matter of fact we we
we're having to stop them because there's so many.
So here's the problem. In the heat of the moment when
you're trying to get something done, do you think we have all

(27:46):
day to sit there to say, could you please sign the pictures,
Sir, Would you please do this for me so I can get this done,
so I can look at you some other time?
He handed it to the vendor, tried to hand it to the vendor.
The vendor says I'm going to putyour blood on your shoes.
He went to Devon and then it escalated.

(28:08):
The case is closed. That is it.
That is it. That is it.
Is there any other questions youhave, Sir?
Well, that's that's an interesting take there, but I I
still want to know directly fromDylan.
Did he have any? Point.
You're talking to me. You're talking to me now.
Yeah, but. You weren't there for this part,
Bobby. So.

(28:29):
I got to be better. Listen, I'm going to take your
step right now, please. I didn't.
I didn't come on here to ban herback and forth.
I'm going to let him talk a minute, then I'm taking them
back over. Yes, Sir.
Yes, Sir. So.
Here's the thing, if I was goingto fight somebody, why would I
bother going and getting security and doing what I had to
do to de escalate the situation?I hear that.

(28:52):
So yes or no, Did you at any point express that you want to
be in a physical altercation with Devon?
I think it's pretty obvious thatI did not want to be in a
physical altercation with Devon,that I had to get typed in my
security personnel to de escalate the situation.
OK. So the answer to that question
is no. You at no point did you express
that you want to be in a physical altercation with Devon,

(29:13):
right? Right, listen, and let me ask
you this, how how big of a fellow are you?
I listen, I am not a Devon Dudley fellow.
I I'm. I'm.
Strapping you this. Yes, Sir.
Let. Me Have you go up and threaten
Devon physically. Hell.
No, not me. I wouldn't threaten you either,
Bobby. You.
You. Didn't even need to answer
answer the question. I wouldn't threaten you either,

(29:36):
Bobby. I'm going to tell you something
right now, yes. Sir, we.
We I have a crowd of 30 people watching one SSM and I asked all
30 people something. They're all going to tell you
something different, right? Yes, Sir.
But here's what I'm getting ready to say, and this is the
moment we remember certain things.

(30:00):
And I'm going to ask you something right now.
If I was to come on your podcastand I was either to sign
pictures or pennies to be on there, and all of a sudden I did
on your podcast, you said, all right, I'm giving you this time,
either yours to pay or you'll give me the pictures.

(30:22):
Which will it be? Let me tell you something,
buddy. If you don't back up away from
this microphone, your blood is going to be on your feet.
How would that make you feel? I would be terrified.
Bobby, you're a shooter, so I wouldn't want those problems.
Well, I'm not. Talking I'm talking about
anybody says that from mighty mouth to Superman, your blood.

(30:46):
I've never heard that in my life.
And I'm. I've been around some of the
selfish guys in this business. Some of the menace.
But some vendor says that my son, which I didn't know at the
time, if you don't leave my area, which is our area because
we really rent the building and our event and Dylan's event, I'm

(31:08):
going to, I'm going to say this,it's Dylan's event more than it
is mine. I'm not able or capable to do
this. And as far as stopping, I've
only got a couple more minutes that we're going to do this.
But I'm going to express it. If you come to our event and we
make an arrangement and you don't hold up to that, then

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you're in the room, says close. And if your offender has failed
to explain that to you, then that's the problem with the
offender boss. And the other person that
refused to do that paid paid rent, that's fine, because their
child refused it too, and they paid the rent, They still will

(31:53):
just pay the rent. So he just pays the rent.
But he didn't want to pay the rent.
He didn't want to sign the pictures.
The pictures never got signed, did they?
Oh. Yeah, Zevon there.
Because I asked them and Zevon was a professional.
Listen, this is Noah's hand fromZevon.
Not at all that I'm saying today.

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I just want to. I just want to clear the air and
say this. When you come to our event, we
want you to have the time of ourlife.
Saturday, October the 19th. And so they got the Ohio's the
next event we're having of that magnitude.
It's a fan fest and super show. We already have some of the

(32:35):
world's top professional wrestlers signed to appear.
More offenders are drumming thanknocking at the door.
Anybody's welcome. But we're I'm with.
I'm with the vendors to know when we made the deal.
A deal's a deal. Is that not right, Sir?
It's absolutely right. So there you go.

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And and that and that's and that's, that's what I wanted to
say. So, so I hope that there's
errors that clears the error on this.
We talked to Yvonne yesterday. He was fine with everything and,
well, Barb. He he accepted he he was fine
with you. But he said that I know accept

(33:17):
Dylan's apology. I know.
But here's the problem. That's on him, OK, That's on
Devon. And and the reason why it's on
Devon is because if if if I ask somebody and here's the problem,
Zealand really didn't do nothingwrong and there's Zealand asking
for policy. What?

(33:40):
What? What?
Listen, what don't you understand about when you come
to our event and you bring talent?
Either you pay the fee or you sign the pictures.
Which? What part of that don't you
understand? If that if that is what the
agreement is, then I I understand what you're saying,

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but then. What did?
Devon say, though Bobby Devon said that this was outside of
the agreement, No. It was not.
OK. OK, so there's some confusion
there, we. We run this, Joe, how, how we
we, we're the decision makers ofthat event that was not outside
the agreement. So those weren't extra pictures
because if you remember, Devon explicitly said if if Bobby came

(34:23):
to me and said sign these extras, I always sign extras,
no. No, no, no, no, no, it was not.
It was no extra. It was part of the of the
agreement with the vendor. Hold on, hold on.
It was part of the agreement with the vendor.
And apparently, here's where thetrouble starts.

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The guy didn't tell Zevon and Devon that they read for
pictures. See, what we're telling them is
we're going to supply the pictures.
It's in lieu of the red. Is that what I'm saying?
I I. Hear exactly.
I hear exactly what you're saying, Bobby.
It's just it's interesting. So this, this seems to be a lot
of misunderstanding amongst everybody here.

(35:07):
Well, no. I I understand something well.
Well and and you said that you acknowledged that there are
things that Devon you feel Devonjust didn't know and that might
contribute to this issue. So here here's what I'll say to
this because again Bobby everybody respects you through
the moon. You're you're legitimately one

(35:28):
of the legends man. You you've you've done good
business with a lot of wrestlersthrough the years helped them
put food on the table and and that's why you get the utmost
reverence. But I'm going to be honest here
Bobby and I'm, I'm a neutral party here.
Literally. I just cover the news.
I have gotten so many messages from wrestlers and and people in
the business who all say the same thing.

(35:51):
Dylan has been very disrespectful to an abundance of
people and it's completely counter to the way that you've
done business through the years.And that's a problem.
So I want you guys to speak to that, because whether or not
this incident with Devon is a misunderstanding that went too
far, we can't deny the fact thatthere's a lot of bad taste in

(36:11):
people's mouths about the way that Dylan has interacted with
folks through the years well. Here's what I'm getting ready to
say. See you because, and I mean this
because of my voice the way it is.
People, people, hey, everybody. People have disagreements with
people. I'm gonna let my son go with
that and then I'm, I'm gonna jump back on.

(36:35):
Yes, Sir. So again, folks, this is, this
is a hold on a second, Dylan. This is an interesting
conversation. Here we have Dylan Hines and
Bobby Fulton responding to what Demon Dudley had said on this
show about an interaction he hadwith Dylan.
And you know, it's opening up a can of worms here, so to speak,
because there are some, it sounds like that that whole

(36:56):
situation was a misunderstanding.
But there's a deeper issue here.So Dylan, now that you're back
here, you got a lot of people, man.
Even right now, even as we're recording, people are are
posting messages publicly sayingthat you're you're not good
business, not like your father is.
I mean, how do you, how do you respond to that?
First off, give me some examplesand I'd be happy to address each

(37:18):
and everyone of them. Yes Sir.
So, so let me pull up one of thelatest and folks if you go on to
Facebook right now and the Duke Loves Wrestling Fan Page, you
can see I mean we we have a share from David Krieger today
which is Sunday the 24th of of of March here.
I've met a lot of bad people in.My life.

(37:40):
I'll go ahead and I'll talk about him because you don't need
to make your statement. David Krieger was given a free
ticket to an event. Told me I will help you in any
way possible you need. My adopted grandfather had a
stroke. I asked David Krieger to use my
vehicle and my fuel to go pick up the nasty boys.
Right. OK.

(38:01):
Case closed. He threw a fit the moment I
wasn't going to allow him to have free autographs after I'd
already give him a free ticket to the event that was over a
300. Dollar.
And not only that, David Prager came up to me and I didn't know
the arrangement. Dylan gave him a a $400.00 worth
peasant free if he would do this.

(38:22):
Right. Right.
That's a big deal, yeah. Dylan gave him a $400.00 value
peasant and what happened was, and I didn't know this, but the
fact, and I'm glad you brought this up because maybe we can
shed some light on some of this stuff.
So David Friedger did. Jillian gave him a $400.00 value

(38:44):
ticket. Right.
Leave it to him and said the only thing I asked you is take
my was it his vehicle? Dylan's vehicle and drive to
pick up the National boys and that and that's all.
David drove up there and the nasty boys got off the plane,

(39:06):
told them they were hungry. This is what this is.
Take a hand news, because this is what David Bruegger said.
He said no, I had to buy them food because he said they didn't
have no money so I had to buy them food.
Bobby and I drove back-to-back back to the place, so he's.

(39:26):
And now not only he doesn't, notonly he doesn't want the $400.00
precision, he wants Dylan to gethim pictures signed by
everybody. What?
You shouldn't do that. So if David, I didn't know this
at the time, David's just mad. So if David's outside smoking
dope and going nuts about Dylan and I hear him, I'm out there

(39:52):
smoking a cigar, right? And I said, what's going on?
Ah, man, this and that, this andthat.
Screaming. Yelled, running his mouth.
I said Amen. I understand what you're talking
about. And I said here, here's $100 or
$50.00. I never remember.

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Shut up, man. I don't want to hear no more.
And he went on about his business.
But what happened? David got a $400.00 freeze, they
said. And Dylan has this solid
exchange about everything going on.
And I'll tell you what's going on.
I'll tell you. I'll tell you what's going on.

(40:34):
There's a pile on on my son and it's fine.
Internet warriors mean nothing to me.
So I'm just saying this, if you have a problem, come up, come up
and talk to us about it. Be a man about it.
But Javi Trigger is wrong. He he's a he's a guy that comes

(40:56):
to events, wants everything for free, wants a $400.00 free
decision. He can say whatever he wants to
say. But I know the story on Javi
Trigger. All right, so there's So Bobby,
there's another one here in Little Head.
This just got posted a guy by the name of Travis H Aldous.
He says Dylan is a piece of shit.
I was friends with him on here before I knew him.

(41:19):
I always gave him advice. It was polite and nice to him.
I get down to The Gathering showlast year and introduce myself
and he looks at me like I have some disease or something.
He tries to act like a big league or all the time.
He fancies himself a wrestler, which.
Is an absolute joke. Listen, he he's best friends
with David Freger. Oh, OK.

(41:39):
I didn't know that, so. So here's what I'm getting ready
to tell you and and what you're saying is people's opinion
people, hey, listen, how many 24year old guys, how many 24 year
old people in this business do you know that have an event that
has 7000 people out of it? That's very impressive.
I only know of one other Nick Batay over at the River City

(42:03):
Wrestling Cars. The only other person I know who
can draw that. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.
And I'm just saying and 24 yearsold.
How's that? I think Nick is either 22 or he
just turned 23, so he's right around the same age there, Can I
tell? You what?
I'm proud of you guys that you're successful.

(42:23):
But also I told Dylan, Dylan, you have a lot of people nipping
at your heels for whatever reason.
And hey, I will admit, I will admit, sometimes it's these
events. And if anybody that's ever been
a promoter, it's a precipitator.As I said, not only do you have

(42:44):
the answers to the fans, but thewrestlers, the people that rent
the building from the people fishing, the food, the people
pitching up the talent, the people taking the tissues, the
people setting up the chairs, setting up the things.
I tell everybody right now, anybody that has a problem with
the promoter, be one one time and find out what it's really

(43:07):
like. Oh.
Bobby, what? What about this whole thing
about Dylan Forge and Lex Luger's signature?
Let's go on now. We got to be honest about it.
Listen, listen, I'm. I'm getting ready to say this
right now. That was bullshit.
He signed up with a Lex Luger, Signed up with another pen.
Dylan shouldn't have been involved in that fucking thing.

(43:27):
And I'm trusting because now youhit a nerve.
That's a damn right lie. OK, so that that never happened,
right? Stop.
Stop. It was excused of it.
And then Jenna came out like a dumb idiot and said, well, it
might have happened. It did not happen.
He never forged one person's autograph.

(43:48):
He doesn't have to. He had.
That's Luther signing. And what happened was he had had
a a couple pieces or whatever. It was a different murderer.
7000 knows the truth. It was a lectures of signature
OK. I mean there was there was a lot
of confusion related to that that we saw and.

(44:09):
Listen to me. Listen to me.
I don't talk to you. But I'm just going to say this.
We seem over here to talk about the Zevon deadly matter, and now
we're moving on to stuff that that supposedly happened years
ago. And let me ask you this.
Yes. Sir, have you?

(44:29):
Have you have you ever had any controversy in your life?
Oh, every single day. I got controversy for sure.
Was there something with me, Margaret?
Here Was it. Absolutely.
I mean, I I can tell you one of the most controversial things
that ever happened on this show is I'm.
Going to tell me something personally.
I don't know. I'm going to know.

(44:49):
I'm going to know your personal life.
Well, it is personal since this is.
This is my show. I I did an interview with Brian
Kendrick where he apologized forsome disparaging things he had
said about the Holocaust and that trended around the world.
It was it was on TMZ and everything.
And I still catch hell for airing that episode because

(45:11):
there are a lot of people who felt that I shouldn't have even
done that interview. So controversy is is something
that? Happens.
That's nothing that you like then because then you get
notoriety and you're on CMC, so.So I I don't think what you just
said was something to do with you personally.
So you're you're talking about it makes you famous and that's

(45:32):
why you called us today or reached out or gentleman reached
out to you as well as you won't be on TMC again, right?
Well, it doesn't make me famous at all.
In fact, it went the other way. I I just told you I caught a lot
of hell for doing it. So that.
You you fame for. Catching hell I don't.
I don't know about that. One.
Well, you know why? Because everybody hates you.

(45:54):
That's OK. That's.
OK, you're a hill, so here's what I'm getting ready to say.
Yes, my voice is wearing out. We've enjoyed the conversation
and we hope that you have a great day.
I'm going to talk to the. Rest of this.
Well, thank you Bobby and and it's always great to talk to you
and and we wish you the best man.
You know people love you, Bobby.Yeah.
And we love you. And listen, Saturday Observer,

(46:16):
the Night Seas Cheddar got the Ohio, we're going to have a
great event. We already got some major
things, headliners coming and when was this there?
This is actually. I'm going to try to get this out
Monday the 25th, so this is going to be a quick turn around
here. We're going to get this.
Out right away comes to us in Indiana on March the 29th and

(46:37):
30th. We're purchased first Triple X
now and then we've got other kinds of other events going on.
Thanks for your time and consideration and I hope you
have a nice day. Thank.
You, Bobby. It was great talking to you,
Dylan. You're you're sticking around.
I'm going to stick. Around for a minute.
OK. Yeah, so I'm going to say this.

(46:58):
I'm going to say this, since you're burying me with all these
other disparaging remarks from fools who were well taken care
of, like David Krieger. You know, I'll say this.
If I was the piece of shit people say I am, why on earth
would all these talents be working with me?
Why would guys like Eric Bischoff be like Dylan?

(47:20):
I've been wanting to come to your event.
I'm excited to come to your event.
Staying hard, Dylan. The answer?
To that question is folks say that they love working with your
dad, man, that that's that's what they say.
I'm not, I'm not out here. I don't have an opinion one way
or another. I'm just relaying what's been
stated publicly and what's been stated privately about that
whole arrangement. People love your dad.

(47:41):
They Revere your dad. They respect your dad and they
have a tough time with you in the way that you have treated
people. Dylan.
I don't. I don't think we can deny that.
That there's, that's the the story out there, right.
So your dad is saying that some people are jealous, 'cause
you're a young man who is putting on successful events.
And I think that there may be something to that.

(48:01):
Do you want to lean into that a little bit more?
Do you feel that because you're a young man who's figured out
how to put on these mega events with these big stars that maybe
some of the heat is unwarranted?I'll say this for years when I
started doing this wrestling stuff, when I started doing this

(48:23):
wrestling stuff. These.
People decided to go and do whatever they could to Get Me
Out of it, 'cause as you know, I'm 24 years old.
When I started doing this wrestling business, I was 16
years old. When you're working with some of
the top guys in the world and you're half or a third of the

(48:44):
age of the people that are doingit also, and they've never got
to work with these people, wouldyou not be jealous?
Would you not be well? It's not even jealousy.
I like to quote the great JackieGleason on this.
It's not jealousy. It's envious.
They can't do what I do. They can't work with these guys
because if they could, why aren't they working with them?

(49:06):
I got Rob Van Dam booked from. I've had him over the last year,
probably 25 times, if not more, around that.
You know, if I was a piece of shit, would Rob Van Damme be
working with me? I would hope not because Rob Van

(49:27):
Damme is definitely a stand up guy.
He knows. Damn well he's working with me
because I'm the way guy who contacts him.
Eric Bischoff knows damn well he's working for me because I'm
the guy who contacts him. Just this past event, Jacques
Crew. Joe was in shock that my father
was involved with the event because he didn't know that my
father was my father. I don't use my father's name for
anything. Now, will Dad get credit for

(49:50):
these events and stuff? Yes, rightfully so.
But when I book a talent, I don't say, hey, I'm, I'm Bobby
Fulton's son. Can you come work for me here or
can you come work for me there? So give me a remark from a
talent, not these fools like a fanboys like David Krieger, that
our Internet warrior freaks who has issues with everybody.

(50:12):
I know of a situation where he was at the baseball museum.
I don't know where it is becauseI don't follow baseball, but
hell, he couldn't even get a ride back home from a friend of
his because he had gotten into adispute with that guy back in, I
think it was July or June or whatever.
So name somebody that actually has value well.

(50:33):
Well, who who's who's Ken M Jugan 'cause he has a a a very
big post about look look. Look, look, look, I'll tell you
about Ken Jugan. Now what are you doing?
This bottom fusion? And we're going to end this now
because you're not bringing up no credible people.
Not. None of these people.

(50:55):
This is like moving on the trashy side of the town and I'm
going to tell you something. Bring up a credible person.
Bring up a credible person. Ken Juban has begged to be on
our events, has tried to be on our view.
What you doing if you're you're you're letting cry babies
dictate. Internet trolls dictate.

(51:17):
The questions you're asking Thisis this is not even even worth
it. That guy begs and begs and begs
to be on those shows babes. So he yeah he's going to be
pissed off because he he's not welcome.
He's never he's he's been in thebusiness and and never really
done nothing as far as I'm concerned and and.

(51:42):
Yeah. Name something and you know
about Dylan. We're going to stop this
interview right now because you're bringing up guys and
people that that that staying alive.
I haven't posted any posts aboutyou, but since Julian want to
come to our event and want to doall this stuff.

(52:04):
And. Plus, plus, plus, Jim Julian
stole money from Virgil. He was going to have been rooted
to our event, but I know for a fact that he stole money from
Virgil, which is bad because Virgil was a bad state on
bookings and stuff like that andwe wouldn't have no part of
that. So next name another one.

(52:25):
OK. But I mean, listen Bobby, you're
you're you're talking about people that you know personally.
I'm just telling you about poststhat have I'm.
Just telling you disregard it because it's bullshit.
OK. So it's BS what they're saying
about your son. Bullshit.
OK. If guys that want to be there,
that's not. And it's 12 noon and I've got

(52:46):
checked out of this hotel. We're going to end this
interview now. Thanks.
Thanks for your time and your consideration.
And like I said, I'll be happy to do another.
Yeah. No, no, no, I don't.
I don't think, I don't think there's no need to address this
anymore. And the reason being is, and I

(53:07):
don't want you to contact Dylan anymore about this particular
stuff because what you're doing is very, very Springerish and
it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit.
What you're saying and what they're saying is bullshit.
They're jealous and mad and because look, they shouldn't

(53:27):
just something free of my son. They go out and write what they
want. But guess what?
None of them guys that you mentioned matters.
Now I'm talking about these fanboys that, that, that.
But you don't have it. Yeah, I'm just talking about
them. None of them matter.
They television, nothing matter.You know you asked Brett Hart

(53:51):
about about our company, you asked all these other guys, I
certainly. Will.
In fact, the next time I have Brett on the show, I will, I
will bring you up specifically so he can speak about you and
Dylan ask. Them about the other job in
Ohio, he's told Marty Wright. You know who Marty Wright is?
Sure. Do he's?
Told Marty Wright They were flying back.

(54:12):
Marty was going to Colorado, Marty Wright said.
Brad Hart said it was one of thebest organized events he's ever
been to. And he was even there to walk
into the rain to welcome the people.
I'm just telling you this, I think, and going back to this,
to go back to this. Devon didn't know the deal we
had with the, with the, with, with the vendor.

(54:35):
And I think that's where the whole problem of this lies.
But some of the, you know, I think it's a misunderstanding
and in the end of the moment things happen.
I don't hope to just leave on that, he said.
I'm going to put this down in the ambulance.
That's pretty heavy to me because your vendor didn't tell

(54:58):
you, hey, I didn't want to pay the rent.
So what I'm he asked me to sign these pictures that you that he
supplied and you're not going tosign them either We're we're
just going to be like a a fatherhere in terms of this event free
which before I've had a few people what's that guy's name

(55:22):
Joe Watt that that announcer that that's.
What you're talking? About, I'm going to say Joe, the
announcers that said Joe Lambrofsky is in our event and
we were busy running around. Did you know Joe Lambrofsky?
Do you know that name? No, I'm not familiar with Joe.
He does. A lot of announcing, all these
people shows and stuff, but whatJoe did was he came to our

(55:47):
event, set up a Table 2 tables, and started selling merchandise.
Well, I bought by so I I knew where the tables were and I
didn't have the job there, but he came in in the middle of it
set up. I said, Joe, you owe me rent.
He said I'm not paying you. I said Joe hit the damn door and

(56:11):
I fixed them out. So we have that to deal with,
things like that. That was not this show.
This was the show before where vendors just come in and slot
instead of the table up and don't want to pay and that's not
right. You wouldn't allow that either,
no. That's that's not right at all.
And again, Bob, you know that everybody respects you, man,

(56:31):
especially. Yeah, but I'm not talking about
this, this, this, this has to dowith Dylan too, because not only
are they messing on me, they're messing on Dylan and and and
people want to trash Dylan all the time.
They they like to say the examples you gave me are not
trustworthy and everything. I'm 24 years old.

(56:58):
Do you have anybody worthwhile before we end this?
Do you have anybody worthwhile that said anything?
I'd be happy to address them an.Actual talent.
An actual talent. Not.
Not a fan. Not a mark.
Not a wannabe. An actual talent.
We already talked about Devon. The Devon conversation's
through. OK.
So, so I just want to make sure I'm clear before I quote anybody

(57:21):
else, because it doesn't sound like anyone who I've mentioned
to has had anything to say aboutyou, Dylan, that you
particularly like them either. So you're saying that talents
don't have a problem with you? It's everybody else?
I just want to make sure I'm clear on what you're saying
here. I'm asking you, do you have any
statement from any talent outside of Devon Dudley about
me? What about the what about the

(57:43):
guy, Danny, Mario, He says. Well, he's the talent.
Is he? He's a wrestler is talent.
I. Got a talent?
Are you stupid? I said.
A talent. Now wait a second, Dylan.
Now here you are being disrespectful to me now when I'm
asking. When I asked, I told you a
talent, not not a mark, not an Internet mark.
Lex Luger, we already. I saw this comment earlier.

(58:04):
We already talked about Lex Luger.
OK, Lex Luger. Stuff was signed on a Facebook
Live, thank you very much, signed by Lex Luger himself.
That's enough said about that issue.
So you don't want me to mention anything more that that Danny
Mario said no. Because that's not what he had
to say. OK.
All right. So you saw what he had to say.

(58:25):
So you don't have any issues with any talents other than
Devon. That was the only talent that
had an issue with you, that that's what you're saying?
I'm asking you, have you heard from any other talent?
I I'd. Literally just mentioned the
talent to you, Dylan. And you.
And you. And you, Danny.
Maria is not a talent. Where did he wrestle at?
Did he wrestle with WWSWCWNW? A So you want you're saying you

(58:45):
want bigger name wrestlers, so even though any wrestler who
says anything got you. Hey, listen.
Listen what you're doing is trying to get another moment of
fame and you're you're bothered fitting.
So I'm I'm stopping this right now.
Gentleman wants to stop but I I didn't see it.
Here's what happens. These guys were friends Ellen

(59:08):
and the minute he don't give them exactly what they want just
like that guy we talked about earlier that that that David
Frigger information of the famous brothers.
Hey let's stop this right now onmy authority.
I'm going to stop. Yes, Sir, I'll.
Stop it now. Yes, Sir.

(59:29):
Respect you and you respect me. Stop it.
Hang up or whatever. I'm gonna just stop.
OK, Well, Bobby, you, you're welcome to walk away, but if
Dylan wants to keep talking, I got to give him the opportunity.
Folks, during this time of the interview, there was a family
moment between Dylan and Bobby. And although it, you know, was

(59:53):
caught on the recording, I decided to remove that from this
conversation because it really doesn't add anything to what
we're discussing overall. And and I gave Bobby and Dylan
my word that I would take that portion out.
So I did do that. Clearly this is a very emotional
conversation. Clearly Bobby would like to walk

(01:00:17):
away from it. I think he said all that he
needs to say, but Dylan is not done defending himself so.
I'm going to continue with it going forward now and you'll
hear the rest, but there is a about a six or seven minute
chunk that was removed out of respect for both of those guys
and their family moment. So without further ado, now
we'll pick back up from there. Before we end, I'm gonna ask

(01:00:41):
this, Do you have anything from any notable talent that has any
clout in this wrestling world other than staying someone that
has been in Aww Encyclopedia, somebody that other than Devon
or anybody else? Well, what is?
The issue with Sting because I had heard about that from others
before. I haven't heard directly from
Sting, but what's going on with Sting?

(01:01:03):
The only issue was this. There was a person that came
with him to the event, no. What happened was Mike Johnson
was supposed to get. That's not the issue, right?
Was there? How about the Creekside?
There was a. Person that came to the event
with Sting that was very unprofessional, that looked at
our fans like they smelled a bagof crap or whatever you want to

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say, trash or whatever had that expression on their face.
The entire time while dealing with our fans, I had a couple
people that were still in line for Sting.
The signing was to end at. I think it was the signing was
from one to four. It was 415.
I felt that the only person thatmade that signing end because

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the thing was going to take careof the rest of it, to my
knowledge, was the person that came with him.
I had an issue with that. When you to pay a talent, the
amount of money that Sting gets,if you're a vendor, you know
what how much money Sting gets, right?
I felt that those four or five people should have their product
taken care of. That was the issue.

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That was the only issue, and sheshut.
It off and the. Woman that was with him, cut it
off. Who works for or worked for.
I don't even know if she still works for them because I've seen
them. And see, the other issue I have
with these things is I have a person that continuously
interrupts and that's why there's always issues with these
people. I'll, I'll go with it now.
The interview was between me andthis man and my father continued

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to interrupt. You don't let me talk.
OK. I mean, listen, I, I, I respect
the the family dynamic that you fellas have at the end of the
day Dylan I think that just me taking a look at everything
here, I think that there is something to misunderstandings
that can escalate. So all I'll say is when you and

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a talent find yourselves at odds, maybe it does make sense
to take a step back or have a third party help you folks take
a step back and and understand what's really going on.
So we don't get, I agree with. That I agree with that and
that's that was what was done, Iagree with.
That that's why. Tom Hill that I mentioned
earlier was brought to see. I have a father.

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I'm going to say this. I have a father who every time
I've had an issue with something, he continuously takes
the other people's sides. And that happens every single
time. And I want this to air because I
want him to know as of today, 2024 is going to be my final
year. I'm going to continue out 2024,
but I'm done after this year. I'm going to ride out of Into

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the Sunset with the biggest names in the wrestling business.
That's why next week in Indiana,where this coming week, whatever
you want to say, 'cause it's Sunday.
Now I'll be working with Juice and Thunder, Liger, Ultimo
Dragon and To Jury, bringing three of the biggest Japanese
icons ever in the professional wrestling world to an event that
is me. That is me.
I contacted Sunny Otto. My father had nothing to do with

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that. Well, I'll I'll just say this
Dylan, I it it sounds like you're going to be moving on to
other endeavors outside of pro wrestling in 2025 and and you
know definitely wish you well inthat regard.
But as always man, you know we we gave you open forum here with
open mic you and your dad to express yourselves and there was

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a lot that was said here. So anyone who has mentioned you
know just like you folks they'regoing to have an opportunity to
come on the show and express themselves as well.
But I just hope everybody can come to an understanding in a
positive manner because again your dad is a legend, people
love him and what he's contribute to the business.
Dylan, you you've you've done a lot of successful things and I

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think you you should get credit and acknowledgement for that.
Like you said, you're a young man and yet you're able to do
these things. It's it's something to be proud
of. So again I just hope that
everybody finds some kind of common ground without it turning
into physical altercations or orfurther verbal disagreements and
what have you. OK.

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Is there anything else you guys want to plug?
I want? To I want to ask this.
Yes, Sir. So.
Without the Internet wrestling community, which is the people
you gather from the peanut gallery.
The people who have no notorietyother than them using my name
for some fame because they wanted to talk about me and get
their name mentioned on your podcast.
Do you? Have anyone that has had a

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302540 year career inside a professional wrestling that was
featured on WWEWCW Impact AW whatever it may be that has a
remark that they've said about me other.
Other than Devon, Dudley and then.
Yeah, other than Devon Dudley. And other than whatever that was

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with Sting. Yeah.
No, I, I, I, I will say that. Hold on now.
I get to talk. You don't have that.
You want to know why? Because you sat here and lied to
us when you said and you addressed me and trashed me and
everything. And you lied today, Sir, you
lied today. And I want this to be on your
podcast because I'm going to putit out on Facebook.
You lied by saying that people only work with me because my

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father and all this bullshit. Nah, my father may have helped
me open a couple doors. Yeah, but he did.
He did that with Sting. Helped me open the door with
Sting and several other people, right?
For. The last couple years.
For the last. Couple years.
I'm going to talk now. For the last couple years, I
became my own man. I do my own thing.
Dad opened the door with RVD, right?

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Guess what? It was my thing to do, though.
Whether I was going to keep the door open or whether I was going
to let the door slam shut, right?
I do good business. Every time I bring Rod Van Damme
out, it's good business. Every time I bring out.
When I've worked for Bret Hart, it was good business.
When I worked with all these other talent, good business

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that's big for its stuff when there's people continuously
working with us, right? And they're not.
And they're not guys looking formoney.
Rob Van Dam does not need the money.
I've been told that before all they only work for you because
they need, they need a couple ofdollars.
That's not true. These people, these people don't
need the money. Rob Van Damme still featured on
all elite wrestling, still featured all throughout the

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world and stuff. So for you to have, for you to
have said what you said and go and say, well, this time, let's
say this, this time it does thisother than Devon Dudley, really.
Guess what? He wasn't private in this
situation himself. He had no knowledge of what he
was talking about, really, otherthan the moments where he and I

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talked. He.
Wouldn't private to the deal. He had no knowledge of the deal.
Did he? Correct me if I'm wrong.
You tell me. I mean, Devon expressed himself
and said what he knew, accordingto you folks.
Apparently he didn't know about the extra stuff.
Yeah. And it wasn't extra stuff.
I'm going to tell you this when people are a big event, right?

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Tom Monger walks up to the table.
Or one of his employees walks upto a table, right.
And they. Get 20 to 30 pieces signed per
talent. Correct?
Correct. I can't say correct because I
don't know. All right, Well, you don't.
You don't know. Seems like that's how a lot of
this interview was today. You didn't know anything.

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You're absolutely. Right.
Which is why I asked you the question, Dylan.
I got, I got a know by asking questions, right?
Yeah. So I'll continue on with this.
Situations are this Devon didn'tknow what was going on.
The vendors knew what was going on.
That's why people like Anthony Delfonzo, who's more than

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welcome to come to any event we have, will continue to be a
vendor at our events. He had all his talent sign the
stuff. Everybody else had their talent
sign the stuff. Gimmick commercials had their
talent signed. Who else was vendors at the
There was a bunch of vendors. All of them just had them
signed, except for two people, right?
If they thought we were getting over on them, why would they

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have their talent signed? Answer that.
You know I think you bring up some valid points Dylan and and
look we we've we've covered a lot here.
So I'm just going to say this again, I hope that folks find a
positive way to continue to moveforward.
If you are indeed in your last year working in the wrestling

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industry, that's too bad becauseit sounds like there's a lot of
money to be made and and a lot of opportunities for fans to get
some entertainment that you playa role in.
So that's too bad. And to Bobby, you know we always
wish you the best of health and what have you here.
So thank you. You know, you fellas always
welcome back on the show. But I just want to say this,

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Dylan, this was an opportunity for you to express yourself.
No one was trying to bury you orput you in a bad spot.
So whatever was said is whateverwas said that.
Doesn't that doesn't lie? No.
He He asked you. About it, you brought David
Krieger and who hell, I posted about David Krieger back in
August. He's stating this.
OK, OK. Well you did ask me to to

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provide some examples and I did.You just didn't like the
examples. I asked you for.
Noteworthy, OK. So so these are everyone who
criticizes you is not noteworthyand that and that's fine, that's
that's your position. Can I ask you?
A question other than today. Have you ever heard your names?
Before absolutely. Here's.
Here's what I'm getting ready tosay.

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How's that doing? I'm trying to say that, and
that's part of the reason why I'm under a lot of pressure to
change the alpolism. You asked about people that want
to step for free. They got pissed off because they
didn't get what they wanted got.It.
So I didn't, I didn't do the same.
It's like me well ago when I waslosing my foods of it and I said

(01:10:50):
that about you, who's my problemis?
I am just upset over all this. I've been in this business since
77. I don't need this little stuff
right here. Yes.
Sir, this is. Nothing that should have been
addressed between professionals and that would have been Devon
and me, which it was, and Dylan and and Devon's vendor, whoever

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he had, should explain to Devon.Devon, I went back from my jail
and listens to her. I just, I I mean this with all
my heart. I was in the heat of the throes
of the moment. Brother Joe, I'm going to stop
this interview because I knew I had to straight up a long time
ago. The gentleman wants to continue
to stop the dresses thing, whichI think's pretty well.

(01:11:37):
Same here of do you I. Sure do.
I I think that you both have have said what needed to be said
up to this point. All right.
I appreciate you and thank you so much.
I'm going to give it back to Zealand.
Yes. Sir, good talking to you, Bobby
Dylan. Unless you have anything else,
man, I I think we're pretty goodon this.

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This is Tony Cavani, and we're definitely out of time on Duke
Love Weapons.