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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In this podcast, I'm going to go by some of
the Mortin gauges that I own, give my thoughts on them.
He likes dislikes about them. So something to notia. I'm
from the UK northeast of England, and there's probably different
names for probably all of these, so feel free to
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correct us in the comments and let everybody know the
correct names, because I probably haven't got the correct names
for all of these. These are just the names that
I've come to learn over the last twenty odd years,
so as I said, feel free. First up, this is
Motus gauge. Now, this has been with us for a
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very long time. I acquired this, I see, acquired it
when I was in college, so this was the very
first kind of more in instruments that I've got introduced to.
When I first started using this, I found this very
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clumsy to set, or at least I was being clumsy
to set it. Obviously, there is a bit of a
knack too set in ears. So for anyone that not
familiar with these or haven't used these before, Basically they've
got a thumb screw which you'll fix the fence in
the position and you've got a little FuMB adjustments, and
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this will slade backwards and forwards. So one of the
pins will stay stationary that's fixed in place by a screw,
and the other one is adjustable obviously just by your thumb.
So you would get that set out for your motors,
maybe a half inch motus, frequent orange motors, whatever you
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may be doing. Get it set for that, and you
would get the fence set to where you want. It's
usually in the center. Your motors usually goes in the center,
but it's not a given and tighten this up On
the other side. This does have a pin for just
pulling parallel lines or parallel marks if you will. Kind
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of a bit of a love and hate relationship with this.
I do like it the all handy for marking out
more says I'm not much of a fan for pulling
parallel lines with these things. One of me gripes for
these is that the pins will often ride with the grain,
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so when you're actually pulling it along a piece of material,
it's quite common for these to actually go with the grain,
and of the grains running out to the edge of
the board, it will actually pull your out if you're
not being very careful. So you still have to keep
an eye on it. I think one of the key
things with all of these is to actually keep an
eye on the fence rather than the pin, which is
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pretty hard because when you're actually marking the line, or
at least for merself, when I am walk the line,
all I want to do is keep an eye on
the pins and make sure the pins are going nice
and straight, where really I should be keeping an eye
on the fence and making sure the fence is running
parallel with the edge of the workpiece that it's registering against.
But you know, I think it's just one of those things.
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As I said, I've had this for a very long time,
and I'll probably have it till the day I die,
I would imagine I don't still use it, but I
have to say it's not my favorite. Recently, I've just
started using this guy again. For the life of us,
I can't remember the name of it. These till come
in different variations. You can get more as gauges, so
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on and so and forth, where they'll actually have two shafts.
I don't believe i've seen one with free shafts. I'm
not already sure what the third shaft would be for,
but anybody that knows, leave a comment to let everybody
else know. I've got this board as a present. I think.
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I think an ex girlfriend boat is this? I think,
I think, And I never really used it. And one
of the gripes with this is that when I'm using
it to pull a line, it tends it tends to stick.
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So obviously use corn feel the resistance, but I tend
to feel that the coat a head, it kind of
gets stuck into the grain and it does give a
lot of resistance. Now I have tried lubricating this, and again,
for those of you that I'm familiar with this type
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of gauge, I think you are actually called barrel gauges.
I think again, somebody leave a comment and let us know. So,
as I was saying, for those of you that are familiar,
these have a screw in the top and it's kind
of a bit like a washer. It's like a shorten washer.
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So I have tried sharpening these, but I don't particularly think,
or at least I don't particularly think I get a
good finish. So the theory that I had for shortening
it was that if I did shorten it, I would
actually be able to use it going across the grain
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just to seve other five as just for meybe cutting
and the shoulders on dovetails things like that, So again
use cornside this. It actually hasn't done too bad of
a job to be honest for once. So when I
have been using it lately, I've just been using this
across the shoulders if I've been doing any sort of
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a joint and then just been following up with me
me little Martin knife. Those of you that haven't got
one of these, this is the Pauls I was recommended
these like years ago. These are really really good knives.
I have tried a number of knives, and I personally
think those are really awesome. Another cool thing what I
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do like about these is that actually have the measurements
on them, kind of like a bit of a ruler
on them, where you can basically, you know, get it
the way you need to be and just set it.
I think that's a really good thing. It's just unfortunate
that my eyes aren't great and I do struggle to
see it sometimes, so normally I have got to get
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it next to the window and get some real daylight
because there's a bit dim in here. Probably doesn't look
dim on the camera, but it is pretty dim. This
has got a rosewood turning on it. Say. The rest
of it is brass stainless steel shafts. I don't think
I would go out and buy one. As I said,
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I'm pretty sure this was a gift from an ex girlfriend.
And yeah, I don't think I would buy one. But
I don't like the feeling. I don't like the way,
as I said, uniqu gripe with it is that the
cutting wheel itself tends to grab the grain or the
grain grabs the wheel. And there's a lot of resistance
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here for me anyway, maybe I'm doing something wrong. Next
up is a cutting gage. So this was my very
verse cutting gage. I'm pretty sure I bought this from
Workshop Heaven. I have used it a number of times,
although I haven't been using it lately for reasons I'm
going to get into in a minute. This is quite
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well made. I think it's ebony. It has some brassing
layers obviously to stop the wear and tear, and I
say brass fun screw. The sole reason I bought this
was to mark my shoulder lines on why boards. Saw
multiple boards that being glued for dovetails at the time,
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I think I was pretty busy making quite a lot
of dovetail blanket chest to ornaments however you know them,
so it made sense for me to get one of these.
As I said, I don't really use it a great deal. Now.
The issue with these is that the cutting blade in
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them is pretty oak at the short one, so it's
they're actually pretty oak when they get out as well.
I'm not even going to get it out on this
is one of the things that really noises about that.
So the blade is about I'm going to say three
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to four millimeters in width and the overall length of
it is about forty millimeters. As you can imagine, this
is pretty oak at the short when. It doesn't help
that it's actually on a on a slanted edge as well,
So basically you might be able to say that a
camera maybe you can. Maybe you can. So basically it's
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not a straight and it's not around. It's coming off
at an angle. So you have got to be careful
because if you're not careful, you can actually allot angle
and you can pretty much put it next to flat
if you're not careful, like I've done, just about not
watching what I was doing and you know, just away
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with the fairies somewhere when I kind of oh Christ,
and you know, it was a it wasn't angled anymore.
If that wasn't an issue, I think this would be
a really good Martin gauge or a cutting gage something
you know, with these, or at least this particular I want.
This is a push meaning that you can only push
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to mark. So just to give you an example, if
you're watching on YouTube, this can only be pushed away
from yourself. I carn't cut on the back. As I
was talking about before. The angle is actually facing diagonally
away from myself, so it's got to cut away from myself,
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which is a little bit unfortunate. I mean, if I
really wanted to, which I don't want to, I could
try and you know, round the blade, and there is
certain gauges that they'll have rounded cutting edges where you
can use it pull and push. So sticking with the
pull and push sort of thing, this is a Japanese
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gauge that I have just made. So this ironically can
only be used on a pull motion. It can't be
used on a push motion, exactly the opposite of this.
So I made this yesterday and this is the first
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Japanese sort of mortain gage I've made, and I have
to admit they'll like it. This is really good just
to use one handed, so once it's once it's set up,
which is quite easy. H it's really good just to
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use one handed if it's well in the hand. As
you can say the blade. I've actually went for one
of the blades out of my Martin knife and I
have actually just snapped the end off that that was
quite easy to do, believe in or a lot. And
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the idea is that when this blade gets dull, I
just take it out and putting your blade in it.
That's that's kind of the whole thing behind it. One
back of this could engage. I don't really like it.
But the issue is that it's hard to get the
blade out. I don't know if you guys can say this,
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but there's like a wedge in trying to get that
wedge out. What a nightmare. And obviously to shorten it
as well, last night mare so yesterday, and I have
wanted to build something like this for quite some time.
I did. I did have that in mind. So I
have had the blade in and out a couple of times,
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which is really cool pair repliers on the end, a
little wiggle and it comes out Happy days. A little
top with the hammock goes and seats itself, so the wedge.
The wedge might put a lot of people off, and
be honest with you, I don't mind it. You would
think it would be a fuff one to set them
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as well, you know, just by looking ant it. But
it's really not. And I haven't used it a great deal.
I've only used it like maybe a handful of times.
As I said, I'll only yesterday, so I have had
a little bit mess around with it. But I think
I like it so much I'm actually gonna build myself another,
maybe one or two. I could see this type of
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gauge becoming one of my favorite gauges in the future.
Sticking with home made, this is the first gage I
ever made, and this is a panel gauge. Again, this
come out of necessity at the time. As I said
stated with the first cutting gage I got, I was
building a lot of dove tailed blanket chests at the time,
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and obviously these are really awesome to pull parallel lines.
So when I was making them, or when I don't
make them, usually it's multiple boards that are glued to gelas,
so maybe like three boards two or three boards that
are glued together a square one edge of and then
I pull a parallel line could out to that line
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and playing it to neating it up. So this was
just necessity. It did speed things up a lot because
once it was set, it was set, and I could
mark only components out that had to be more to
the same width, which obviously makes sense. This has a
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wedge and it's the same as the Japanese wedge. Now
I do have to admit the Japanese wedge is a
lot simpler, it's a lot quicker to make, and I
would highly recommend anyone that's going to make some sort
of a wedge to actually make one of these Japanese wedges.
It was quick to make, just to show everybody. It's
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kind of it's kind of a bit like a hook.
So that actually goes down to ten degrees. Admittedly ten
degrees is a little bit too much, and I should
have known better just with the experiments with the Roman
word bench and wedges. This would have been better around
five degrees or six degrees instead of the ten degrees.
Probably five degrees, but it does still work well. I
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think the next time I build another one, which maybe
quite soon actually, I think I'm going to take that
down to maybe five or six degrees. So if you
compare that with this wedge, you can see there's a
bit more work involved in this, and I really wouldn't
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recommend doing it unless you're looking to make it really pretty.
I personally think this sort of wedge it's just so
easy to make. It's quick easy, there's no fashion about where.
I remember when I was doing this, and it did
take us a while to do it. I was a
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little bit less experienced at the time. But moving forward,
even if I was to build another kind of more engaging,
it was more west in style and it was utilizing
a wedge, I would definitely use this sort of a wedge.
It's just quite at easier, and that's kind of what
I like to do these days. I like to keep
things nice and simple. This is another Martin gauge. So
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what's different about this one is that it has a
fun screws and this will actually set the two pins
for a mortors. Admittedly, I've never really used this a lot.
I kind of quite remember if I had issues with
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it and I've just put it on one side. That's
what usually happens if I get a tool and I'm
not liking it and I'm struggling to use it or
to said it, I kind of normally just like put
it away and forget about it, which is a bit
of a shame, isn't it. But I picked this up
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on a flea market and I think it was about
fifty pence a pound something like that. This has again
got the brass in layers, and that's again just to
stop wearing tear. It's pretty much the same as this
mortain gauge wether then you know, it's a bit more swanky.
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It has got a nice brass funscrew on it and
obviously brass screwed two sets the pin and on the
back same again it has the pin pull parallel marks,
just the one instead of a mortus. Last up is
the second gauge I ever made, and I don't really
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use as a great deal. Occasionally, if I'm looking for
a gauge and it's the first one I kind of grab,
I will use it sometimes. So this primarily was just
to put a So this primarily was going to Bay
for looks sick, So this primarily was for walking out.
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So as you can say, it's got a hole for
the pencil to go through. And this is a calm
lock gauge. I don't know if you can say that
on the camera, so as it sounds, it's just a
cam locking system. So again when you when you put
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it in, when you start twisting it clockwise, it just
starts to tighten up, which is really really cool. I
think I did actually do a video on this very
long time ago. I think it was a little bit
of a faft to make if I remember correctly. But yeah,
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it's been kicking around for a good few years. But
as I said, I don't really tend to use it
a great deal. And like I would say before, I
think the Japanese kind of mortain gauges I'm really lighting
and I think moving forward, I'm going to be making
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a few more of these and trying them out. I
do really like the design. I like the the one
hand use. So when I see one hand use, there's
probably quite a few years that I was saying like
all of these or one hand use, maybe maybe not
the panel gauge, but all of the Western style gauges
or one handed juice. However, me personally, when I am
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using them, I do tend to find myself using the
two me two hands, and I actually I'm pulling in
towards the edge, and I'm pulling wherever this this hand
needs to go, where our away from us or towards us,
and obviously pulling this in and I find that does
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help with a lot of things. So sometimes it is
just better to be able to have, you know, kind
of on the one hand, juice, so I think where
there shines where some of the other ones don't shine.
It's just a share length of the fence. So when
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you are using this, you know, I've got one hundred
and twenty milimeter as that's make in contact with the
edge of the board here, whereas this mark this motus
gage shit. You know, it is more more prone to
actually pull itself away when you're pulling it down. And
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that's why I do tend to use me two hands.
If this was a little bit longer in length, maybe
the same as that, I don't think i'd have that issue.
But as it stands, I always use two hands while
I'm using this sort of style. H what do you
guys use do you use something that's on the bench now,
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or is there something else that you use that isn't here.
I'd be interested here, so leave a comment and let
everybody know. I think I'm gonna wrap it up there,
guys for the day, So until the next time, I
shall see and speak to you guys later