December 2, 2025 • 37 mins
Earnest ‘EJ’ Christian and America’s favorite degenerate Zack ‘The Degenerate discuss NFL Week 14 NFL Power Rankings, BEST BETS, and grade the 2025 Florida State Seminoles season.
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Greed Shiners of the podcast according to this to the Night,
December second, twenty twenty five, again with the murders, degenerate, Zach,
what's up?
Speaker 6 (01:17):
Not much man? Still thinking about your last podcast I
heard about.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I listened to, Oh, the one with my dad and
my brother.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Yeah, disrespecting carry the way you were.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Okay, what was the prob what was the problem? Without
that show exactly.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Y'all were trashing Curry in comparison to Kobe.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I mean, I love Kobe. Was getting just to blow
on my mind.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I mean, well, have we all have him top ten?
What's the problem.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
He's think the first one out in the top ten
and someone else moves in?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Who Kobe? Yeah you think so? Oh, okay, I know
I know what that bad? That bad for you?
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Damn well, I mean I went over this with you.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
You take the best player Kobe ever played with, and
the best player that that Kobe ever played with Curry
and Kobe played with, Right and Shack and KT, and
you lay him out.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Who is the most dominant force of the four? It's shocked?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Shock Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
But and then if you're comparing all four, KD comes
in forethought out of the four, right, the guy who
literally can't win without Curry. Curry's got two rings without
and was robbed of a third ring without him because
(02:48):
of a suspension and injuries during during.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
The finals, we said the show that he Kry has
opportunity to the list still because he's still he's still
his prime thought, his prime. Plame still tailing this prime
and I don't I don't see another ring at this
point with this team anyway.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
But you know, man, look at this point he is
still ahead of Kobe in the all time greatness.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Okay, by the way, the seventh the last week about
Kobe being faced the league whatnot, we got got a
lot of tracks on down on social media. We got
trashed on there.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
You and I.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
People don't believe. I'm like, do you guys? Do you guys?
Do you guys listened to seven? First off, you weren't
see it wasn't great. We just said that we don't
think he was never face the leader because the circumstances.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Those are those are people who are literally living off
of bus from other players.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
If you watched it with your own eyes, Kobe was
never the face of the league.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
And that the good enough. Just the circumstances. It was
mostly circumstances he would have been. If crowd doesn't happen,
he would have been spaced the league.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
No so, but because of it, you don't get credit
for what didn't happen, all right, exactly, you're just not
the face of the league.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, my mind, I agree with you. Anyway, before we
get to our our picks. Uh pot rankings time Week
fourteen coming up, And my god, these rankings were I mean,
we don't have we don't have a clear cut favorite
right now in the league. We have a bunch of teams.
Let's get let's get this bottom these bottom five, man,
this bottom five is so put the same same five
(04:29):
team pretty much in there. I don't want extra one,
but okay, give me about a five one, all right?
Speaker 7 (04:34):
So worst saying the worst, worst seeming league still hasn't changed. Tight,
it's Tennessee, second worst seaming league still hasn't change. For me,
it's the Las Vegas at thirty one. Yeah, at thirty
it's the Saints. To me, okay, I'm gonna keep the
Jets even though they just had a.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Great game at twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
And I know this team has a better record than yours,
the way oldest they have been playing, they deserve to
be twenty eight.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And that's the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Oh that's a good one. That's a good one. I
didn't consider that. I probably shouldnser that one, all right
for me? Three to two, Titans, I agree with you.
This is where you and I me to be off
a little bit. Thirty one the Giants, uh thirty the Saints,
which I agree with you als as well. Twenty nine
the Raiders, twenty eight I went to the Falcons with
(05:35):
the Falcons this time. Another game that put the should
be to the Jets by the Jets. You see the
start of the Jets. Though they won more games in
the November than the Chiefs and the Colts. See you
see that's that pretty crazy.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Huh. I did not see that, but that is remarkable.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's pretty crazy, man. The Jets turn turn things around.
Aaron Lynn, let's go all right, we got the to
bottom five top ten number.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Tell me you got buddy at number ten making my list? No, no, sorry,
we're not there at number ten. It's the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Okay, I like that. Uh ten for me is the
Chargers actually now having said that, low concerned because they
played one football with the Olympics. Just Herbert may may
not play a game because he had surgery, was having
surgery this week on his on his was his hand,
it was his hand, some of that. But he he may,
(06:28):
he may still he may play. Still nothing serious. Still
he could miss the game. But they kind of got
on the radar now last couple weeks though, Chargers.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Yeah, I actually took them off of my list this week,
just going over who they have been playing recently to even.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
To be winning.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
I had a drop all right, number nine he got
at number nine. A new team on my list, the Texans.
They have them falling out of late and they deserve
the respect.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, best even football CD Strup played very well. It's
Indy all of a sudden, the back in the race
down for the division. Culture falling apart a little bit. Yeah,
I see that. Unfortunately on my top ten though, number
nine for me, the Bills, that's that's a I know pittmorsh,
I know Pittsford's will be mid. But that's a big
win against the Steelers now on the road. It's a
big win. I agree, you know what I mean because
(07:19):
that because that's right now, that wildcard in the AFC
is getting very, very very messy. It's very crowded. So look,
Buffalo at this point pretty much has no chance to
win the division. But five weeks ago that the three
back and honestly four back with the tiebreaker, so the
ODDO winning division is sim to none. So the wildcard
it's a mess, so you want to get in that.
(07:40):
You want to have that win. If you lose like
gaming and five, now all of a sudden you have
the team behind you clawing at you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Nah.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
You want to make sure you have enough enough ones
possible to avoid get into that mess in the final
weeks of the season. So big win for Buffalo. There
it last week. Bill's number nine, all right, he got.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
At number eight. I probably put him to.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
I just haven't been inspired by them of late Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yep, I see it. I see it. I definitely see it.
They are struggling. You're seeing sign the twenty twenty three
over again. It's that good thing. Either. How about another
game in it Brown as well, and they still lose.
So again, what's the priority here, Brown? All to win games?
I think he's I do. I think if they if
they even they win a super Bowl, but I think
especially they don't if they're out of the playoffs. Whatever
(08:27):
that he's done in Philadelphia this year, I think they're
gonna pup his bullshit anymore. So number eight for me
is a nine ers. What a story, dude. Nine wins
this year and again another team on the radar, Winny
nine game this year with all the injuries brought pretty
miss bolts of the year, and Kyle Shannon is still
plugging along, plugging along and right, and they're right in
the mix of the division. Dude, they're right there. They're
right there. Half a game behind them Seattle in the Rams.
(08:50):
It's a great story there in Sampruisco. So nine ers
with me, number eight, Number seven he.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Got and number seven I have Green Bay.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
They's turned it on to the late. But again it's
a hitt and mess team. Jordan Love is literally up
and down like an e KG.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So yeah, I also agree with him seven as well too. Yeah,
They're a team that I don't like. There weeks when
I'm like, I like you guys, and you got a
super Bowl team in no weeks Like I don't trust
the I don't trusts man done. But man, this week
against the what they did this week against the Detroit
prett much dominating them pretty much. I mean, that's pretty
(09:28):
impressive stuff there, man. And know I know the Bears,
the Bears right now with the story in the NFC North,
but Packers are still scary.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
How the Powers Packers are a super ball team. How
the powers, and.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
No, I think the bigger issue was, like the Lions,
as you mentioned them, is you have a special teams
coach who's now calling the offensive plays.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Reminds you of some misd you some of another team
from way back when. But all right, number six.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
We got at number six.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
It's the NFC NFC North leaders right now and actually
the number one seed in the NFC, the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
They cannot be stopped.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
They are slowly, slowly up slowly buying them slowly. But
I mean it's it's a big win on in Philadelphia
on a Friday. That's a big win. And I said
in the show on the show last week, if they
win this game, they will crack my ten. This is
the first time this year been in my top ten
and I said, they win this game, they'll crap my ten.
And they are there. They'll be in a second. And
(10:29):
that's a higher than you actually six for mes Eagles,
the team the team they beat again, they're the one
team that at any point they can turn on and
be the best team football. And it's not close their
team that they're the most talent team football. There's there's
something going on there and it's easy to see ag
(10:50):
brown and maybe it is a brown, but I think
it's more than that. It's what is that? I mean?
I never see Eagles defense gun gash like that on
the ground, on the on the ground like yardists were.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It was over two hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, it was horrible. I'm like, what the hell I've
never seen Egles demons play play as bad? Four on
the ground, un legal, but six of Eagles holding out hope,
not hoping, holding out that they would actually climb back
in the top five. But but now I'm no.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
A number five. I think that this past weekend was
the switch that this team needed. And it's the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
I know, I know they'd be.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
An Aaron Rodgers team that where Aaron Rodgers couldn't even
throw for forty yards in the first half, couldn't throw
a ball past past the line of scrimmage. But again,
you go on the road, in the atmosphere and you
pull out a victory the way image they did.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I think, yeah, man, something to this team, and I
think it's they turned the page.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, uh five Beers again, big win in Philadelphia.
I spent a little while ago when you picked them
in six, I'm still again, we'll get to the picks.
And second, if they can pull up win this Green
Bay this week. Now we got something talking about there.
But there's a five for me, all right.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
And four I have Seattle. I couldn't reward you with
who you played this this past weekend.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Okay, I'm sorry, but to be they.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Be, we're supposed to.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Just look at the quarterback they played against. I mean, honestly, got.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
What's his name? I remember his name, Prosper Probably the
worst interception that I've seen our life. You see that ship, I.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Don't know about.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Who is that one Bill's quarterback that through six their
inception seting Nate Nate Nate Peterman University.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, terrible, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yeah, and he got to stick around in the league
for a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah he might. He may lead out still to today day.
I gotta check it out. Ship four for me is
the Broncos again, another team that's you know, like the
Beers in the sense of the AFC. Well like the records.
The record, man, I'm still on the fence overall. Bo
Nick's is not having a great not having had a
(13:19):
great year, but the defense is amazing and there's sill
winning games and when when is winning? I guess right?
So I mean, do I still think that the super
Bowl team really just seem to go to Super Bowl? Well,
at this point, the AFC looks wight open, and if
the ABC doesn't have the Chiefs and the Raves in
the playoffs this year, every team is live. So my
default Denver before all right, well, three, you.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Got it's the best team in that they see with
that defense, you can go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It's the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, oh, we'll see more. I mean, obviously I had
my apprehension of this team, but three for me is
the Seahawks. That defense is what really is still be
on this team. That that is a that is probably
after Houston or just as good as Houston, the best
Devenson football in my opinion. So Seattle is the winnings
were supposed to And then most say about that, all right, two,
(14:11):
you got.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
At number two.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
It's because you cost me a ship ton of money
this past week, and and because you lost to a
quarterbacks five foot six.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
But yeah, it's the it's the Rams, all right. That
was embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
You could have lost any of your other games for
the last six seven weeks and I want to trash yet,
but this that was embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I was gonna pull I can't post for I got
to pass the two passed the two for me traight,
Mae might be MVP. He might yeah, the best deep
both runing the league in the game right now. He's
I don't get it, like, and they're not overly talented
really in my opinion. I mean, I have a good players, but.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
They don't have a receiving corp you'd ever want to have.
They don't have a running game you'd ever trade for.
And yet he's doing what he's doing right.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
It's weird how good they are. But I guess Vegas
new eight and a half wins they knew, maybe question
your story, like eight and a half wins, I don't
get it. Well, they're two now, so they go. One
for you used.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Patriots, right, one for me is the Patriots?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, one the Rams. I couldn't pull the trigger this yet.
On that I still think kind of powers. They're better
than all these teams right now. They would do a
bad loss. And as bad as they played on Sunday,
they almos hold that game anyway, So I don't want
to hold that against him this yet, you know, in
a year where every team has one bad loss, this
(15:48):
is their bad loss. Although Carolina, I don't know. I
don't know if you can call Carolina bad loss now
when you have some wins and they right now in
the middle of the playoff race and that they con
win NFC South.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
So I had a parlay, a ten team teaser. That
was the only loss. I also had a fifteen game parlay.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
And if it wasn't for a basketball game where the
Bulls lost.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
The garbage, oh my god, I would have been cursing
off a storm looking at that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Oh my god. I had five.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Games in the NFL, NFL three out of four, and NBA,
and then went four out of five for NFL. I
was losing my mind on that one on that play.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
No, don't blame you, man, But fifteen game partly, my
god was on my line. No, all spriends, that's that's
a problem.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
It wouldn't have mattered the Rams and the Bulls still
would have screwed me.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
No, I get it. I got it spread a long
time ago. All right, we fourteen best bets before we
get started our by the are the last buys a year.
By way, we have fourteens and buyers have the Panthers,
the Patriots, the Giants and the Niners. A Zach of
these four teams who need to buy more?
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Oh, probably the Niners probably need it more for healthwise. Yeah,
Panthers probably hate.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
This by because I mean they're winning right now.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Ye yeah, I agree. I agree that on the pass
Also two, I mean the Niners rather the Paths are healthy,
I think, right.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
I mean they're messing their left tackle and he's not
coming back for a couple more weeks, so having this
bind means nothing for.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Him, right right, I'm within the Niners also two, And
I agree with Carolina also too. For the momentum now
they could used to keep playing, you know, I get that.
All right. Here we go thursdaynight Football, huge game, Cowboys
at Lions. The lines of people in favorites the over
under ZAC. That's twenty four and a half four huge game.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
I should really play it safe, take the over.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
But my feeling right now with Dan Campbell calling plays,
give me the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Give me the Cowboys. With Campbell blowing this game because
of going forward on fourth down one, Cowboys going Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Well I'm playing a safe in the over, but Dallas
defense is really woken up now, really really really done.
Decent job a couple of weeks and my best life
with my buddy U Mario, who I after my bet
hunt all bet games with my life.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
That trade for that trade for Quinton Williams where they
were killing Jerry Jones earlier.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
It is paying off massively, right.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It really is, It really is.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I went over this one just to be safe because
you you know, I can't say the short week because
both these tams played the third of last week, so
it's actually a full full week, so that was playing.
But one team's going, ascending, team's descending. But Detroit anytime
they one who they can just turn on. I mean so,
but I'll I'll take you over this one, all right, Sunday,
here we go. We got Seahawks at Falcons. The Seahawks
(19:22):
in point favorites, the over under ZAC is forty four
and a half.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Give me the Seahawks. This will be.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
This is one of those games those games you're not
even something post to take a West Coast team. You
should automatically take the East Coast team with the points.
But fuck that Atlanta is trash right.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Now, Yeah, they're so trash in my bottom five. Give
me Seahawks. Well two, I'm with you, all right. We
got Titans at Brown's. Oh my god, there we go.
The Browns are four point favorites. The over under Zac
is thirty four and a half.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Oh, give me the under. And you know what, camp Lord,
you want to even improve. You deserve to be a
first round draft pick over this kid. You better show
up this week.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Oh I'm I'm be in Cleveland. I think clean defensive
Loan wins this game. It was one thing that that
that the Browns do well. One of the team most
teams in the league anyway, is their defensive dominant. So
give me the rounds to win this game. I think
the cop four points is undepensilone. So all right. We
got Commanders at Vikings. The Vikings and one a half
win favorites. The over under Zach is, what do you
want to happen?
Speaker 7 (20:35):
It's really gonna hurt our draft status. But yeah, it's
gonna hurt my draft status. But Washington wins this game,
and I don't know if it's even gonna be close.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, I got Washington too. Yeah, Minnesota sucks. I'm assuming,
I'm assuming that same kid that started for the Vikings
and starting again.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
McCarthy was on a concussion. Yeah, so he should be
back by now.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
He's young enough. It's his first concussion that I'm aware of,
even through college.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, boy, I am not surprised to watch it was
almost when the game is Denver, I am not surprised whatsoever.
I am all right, Dolphins at Jets. The Dolphins in
two and a half point favorites. The over under Zach
is forty one.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Give me the Dolphins on her comeback of the season. Man,
keep that train rolling.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I think they do win the game, most likely, but
I'm gonnak the overnest one, especially over its low enough.
I don't trust two of those. Bro was so open.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Totals so enough. If you think Dolphins are gonna win,
you might as well take it true.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But I think both these teams, I think both these
teams can't score. The Jets out of no where are
scoring twenty plus play plus the game. Now I'm late,
so why not? Why not? Might might not be a
twenty twenty four games? You know, might as son be
over this one, all right, Saints at Saints at Bucks.
The Bucks of our eight and a half point favorites.
The over under Zach is forty three.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Give me the over eight and a half. Division rival game.
Bucks are still missing pieces. Baker's hurt. I just don't
see him.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Conrade, I thought about that too, also, man. But every
for every two or three good Saints games, the competitive
Saints games, there's a bad one on your horizon. I
think this is the bad one in the horizon. Eight
Bucks cover to spread here, all right, huge game here,
Colts at Jaguars. The Colts are one a half point
favorites the over under Zach it's forty seven and a half.
(22:40):
It's respectful, too, disrespectful spread there for the Jacks Jackson
Jackson Jas right now in first place by virtue of
the tibreaker.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Yeah, so again, I want to remind you of my
tradition earlier this season, before the season started.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah, that's probably what's.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Gonna leave me to make this pick. Indiana has turned
into Danny. Give me Sunshine, Give me Sunshine and his
boys to win this.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Game and cover well.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
To be fair, though he is hurt.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Though, yes, he can't run, and that really limits him.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, I'm taking you under in this game as the
best bets the unders. I heard the Colts is faired. Man,
is that they hit a wall and the wall, so
give me under this one, all right. Just a big game, big, big, big,
big game.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Steelers at Ravens. The Ravens six point favorites. He over
under Zack's forty three and a half.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I've crushed the Ravens of like, crush them all season
because they've been trash rightly.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
So look, I don't care how bad your defense is.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Anybody can stop the Steelers with Aaron Rodgers playing right
now the way he's playing, give me the Ravens to.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Cover Lamar's hurt. I think Lamar is still hurt.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
I don't care if he is hurt, though, so is
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Dude cannot throw a football past the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, I'm thinning over this game, though the deep is
still pretty shaky. I think Lamar is still hurt, though,
but at the same time, both is better. I'm we
should be too surprised, I said Bengals one last week,
but uh yeah, push is bad and I honestly I
think I see a world now when Mike Tomas alone
to coach it this year.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
My biggest concern with the Ravens, though, is why isn't
Derek Henry getting the ball?
Speaker 6 (24:44):
What is going on with that? Ten carries? Twelve carries?
This dude is still the beast in this league.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
That's a Jim Horber problem. Jim Harber might might be
much longer the same. All right, Bengals at Bills. The
Bills are five and a half points favorites. The over
under is two and a half. Zach Joey Burr's back.
You saw immediately what it is. Kid is good. You
(25:17):
got this one. Oh man, you know they can run
the table. Actually, Bengals run the table.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
I should again, this is like first first Thursday night game.
The smart bets just take the over. But again I
lose my money because I don't do the smart bet.
Give me the Bengals to win.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I got the over. I'll tell you what, though, they
win this game. Here's a ring schedule. Put the Bengals
after this week. You got the Ravens at home, which
you ready beat Murdy, the Cardinals, the Browns, oh wait, sorry, y'all,
the Ravens, the Dolphins on the road, the Cardinals and
the Browns. So they get through this game gets scary
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because they know they'll own every time. Breaker two with
with with the Steelers, and I think the Steelers tarbreaking.
I think the almost too, I believe. So if in
the way the Steelers playing and so the Ravens playing
right now, it's very, very possible the Bengals can run
to take like last year in Steelers vision.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
I really can't afford that to happen because that man,
I would lose a seven team division parlay because Kansas.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Oh we lost him, we lost Zach hold On. All right,
you would talk about the Bengals and the schedule and
what they can you hear me, Yeah, you're fine, you're
fine recording now. So you're talking about the Bengals and
the parlor you have going to the Chiefs. And then
we lost you. Oh we lost you again. All right,
(26:54):
So we lost you twice. Now I'm back though. You
talking about the Bengals, and you said he had a
big part of the chief Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
So like I have Jacksonville, I have the Rams. I
have the Eagles who are still winning right now.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Green Bay is only half a game.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Now, I got a couple more, but yeah, I took
the Bengals, but I had the Chiefs also to win
their their their division. Yeah, exactly, so that the Bengals
come back from being lay out of the picture. It'll
be heartbreaking to.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Lose just by one, right, Yeah, on the one he
thought was really safe, you know, right, it.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Was better to have like if you lose, make you
lose the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Yeah, at least there's a couple.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I agree. I totally agree with you on that. All right.
Next game Broncos at Raiders. The Broncos and some point favorites,
the over under zachs forty a half forty eight and
a half forty.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yeah, I actually think the Broncos could score forty one.
I guess the Raiders, so just giving the Broncos to cover.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Last that's the last thing he played though, number one,
ten to seven.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Yeah, that was what early early in the season, right.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I think like week six, Week six, weeks seven I
think was oh shit, I'm on, I'm one under. There
were there were partly scored twenty some points, but then
they'll you know, we're just going nothing son there. All right,
it's a huge game. Who have thought this game had
been a game of the week. Probably Bears at Packers.
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The Packers six one favorites, the over unders Zachs forty
four and a half. This is the most important Packers
can be seen years.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Man, I just can't buy the consistency of the Packers.
All right, I get it.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
The Bears are beating up mostly on garbage teams, but
the Packers just are not inconsistent. Give me the pack
giving the Bears getting the point.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I'm with you too. Also, look, Green may may win
this game still, but the points, there's a lot of points.
It's a lot of points for a team that's so
up and down. That's the points you're definitely, And look
they may win a game too, also, but I think
anything bears in the points here, definitely. All right. Rams
at Cardinals The Rams were eight point favorites the over
under Zachs forty eight.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
After that humiliating loss, I have to expect the Rams
to come back out and perform.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
So give me, give me the Rams.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I might go the other way and put the Cardinal
the points here. Rams win the game, but I think
the Cardinals are the points. Get home. The Cardinals have
been frisky all year long. Jacoby Brissette has been playing
some good football's his career. Yeah, dude, really really like
I sort of got The best job in the world
is back a quarterback. If you're if you're good enough
(29:53):
to come aspop duty, you can make easy five dollars
a year just doing that job. Best job in the world.
Jacob Prose could be a quarterback. It is leaping at
that five or six years just doing that.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
He's getting up there in age. Man, he's been in
this thing for a while.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
What ten years?
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
What ten years? But still he's still still he's still solid.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I would say the position that is stealing the most
money is the Detroit Lions punter.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
That man is probably making two million dollars and he's
probably punted five times the all season.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, because he's going forth down the time. All right,
sunlight football. Texans at Chiefs. The Chiefs with three a
half point favorites, he over unders zach Is forty two.
Is this the day the Chiefs will get great for good?
Speaker 6 (30:41):
I believe this is the burial rights right here.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Honest to god, I believe the Texans and any hope
for the season for the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Do you have Houston?
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I absolutely have. She used to tend to cover.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I think she said, I think the Chiefs would have
went out. Honestly, I think I think giving them how
big a mess the AFC walk car pictures right down,
I think I don't eve think to win's enough anymore.
I think eleven wins to even have a chance to
the wall card, which means that I went out the
entire year. Now, to their credit, they have a Their
schedule is kind of weird because they have a couple
of top games there, but a lot of them on home.
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I'm bringing up right now real quick, tell you, I know,
I know they So I have Houston this week, chief
schedule to see you quick, Houston this week. Then they
have Okay, so they have homes, the Chargers, uh, Titans
on the road, Bronco was at home, and then the
Raiders on the road. So the good news that all
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their top games went home. So it is feasible that
you went out. But I don't think they will, nah,
I don't think they will.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
They I don't see them being Denver, and I don't
see them winning this game. So there's two more losses
right there.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
That's eight right there.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Yeah, I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
But I'm gonna take case and what have I told
you all your long? Until I see that the Chiefs
are eliminating the play contention, I'm not gonna believe it.
So I just believing in Mahomes and believing in any
read give me Chiefs with this game, just be cause
it's the Chiefs. So all right. And finally, one Night
Football Eagles at Chargers. The Eagles peak win favorites. The
over under is forty one.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Zach, give me the Eagles. I mean, you don't even
know whether or not Herbert's gonna play exactly.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Eventually, the either this is the game that finishes the
Eagles season or pros it was just.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
A blip in the in the road to another championship.
And that's what I really hope it is for the.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Ag So is it death coon five? The highest one.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Alright? That is deaf cond one one?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Right, whatever the highest one is of the highest alert
is they lose this game. That's where we're at now,
because if Dallas wins, if Dallas wins the game, one
on Football, Eagles Eagles lose on my night, not you're
a game behind in the division and I and then
you have all that stuff going on in Philadelphia. In Philadelphia,
the locker room's not going on. I mean that is
a problem. So they this is the must went for
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the Eagles and must win for Eagles. I think they'll
do it because and they're lucky because U Herbert's availability
is not unsure right now. I mean I think even
let's play. I think he'still win a game. But who knows. Man,
this has been a very very uh discouraging stretch for
the Eagles as a late. So but I will put
the Eagles win because they do have the better team.
They should win this game. So and there's the best
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bets for this week before we get out of here
one last time. And thank god because after this we
have top them anymore. So I can't stand them for
the seminal seasons for over they are not Bowl eligible
when they went top five and seven this year, So
to put a bowl in the year, Zach, last minute
for the season, What grade? What other wad you're giving
into the seminoles this year?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Oh man?
Speaker 7 (34:04):
I should give them. I mean, they they earned an F.
They earned an F, but I really want to give
them that D plus.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
For this C minus so that maybe.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
They don't have to retake the course for the simple
fact they gave me hope the first three weeks of
the season, especially that first week when they beat Alabama
and it crushed a lot of my family's hard But.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
If I'm being real, it's another f absolute failure.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Which way, when the season started on top of that
two to go three zero dominant fashion, beat Alabama week one,
the whole nine, you think, oh my god, this is
a great year, and then it just fall apart after that.
I went I went D because they did double more
than double the win told last year. But of course
to and ten I mean nor but up And the
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only reason they're gonna D is because they did be
out out of this year. Other than that, there's nothing
else to really look at as like a positive at all. Yeah,
I mean, LOI Pittsburgh lose Miam's veomy, are I get it?
Speaker 7 (35:18):
You get blown out by Miami. The ending of that
game is BS. You get blown out by Florida, you
get blown out by Clemson. So essentially your three biggest
rivals you got destroyed at.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Right, and at this point for me, it's gonna be okay.
Nobel staying on the year. We know that they said that.
What's next. I mean, do you retool the coach Stephan again,
because you did that this this past offseason. You know
who knows? I don't know. I think this team is Uh,
(35:52):
they're a mess. You're a mess and in the worst
port they play in a very easy conference.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
You're going to continue to chase after players from from
outside the state of Florida in the portal.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
You're going to continue to be a bottom peter.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
If you could at least focus on on the high
school seniors here in Florida so that you have depth
and talent, maybe you stand a chance against lesser opponents.
But that isn't this guy's guy's prerogative. He thinks he
with what Bobby Bountain, Bill and Jim jimbo Fisher had
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going on, that he can go recruit out outside of
this state and compete against the big boys.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Dude, you're a shit coach. Focus on this state. Please,
I agree?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I agree? So now he put the knowles to bed finally,
not the way that the nuisance obviously, Zach, let you
pick this week and uh yeah, is that the last
time doing this show segment on the show in the studio?
So oh, the next time we do another show next week.
(37:07):
We'll be in a new studio, all right. Yeah. So
although I'm want to move into Billings Over, so.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
I still gotta get that moving. Man, still gotta care
and ship.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I'm not looking forward to it, brother, not looking for
it at all, not looking for twitter. So good talk
about you, man, and good luck all right, man, good
luck to you. You got a brother. Later later,
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Greed Shiners of the podcast according to this to the Night,
December second, twenty twenty five, again with the murders, degenerate, Zach,
what's up?
Speaker 6 (01:17):
Not much man? Still thinking about your last podcast I
heard about.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I listened to, Oh, the one with my dad and
my brother.
Speaker 6 (01:26):
Yeah, disrespecting carry the way you were.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Okay, what was the prob what was the problem? Without
that show exactly.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Y'all were trashing Curry in comparison to Kobe.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I mean, I love Kobe. Was getting just to blow
on my mind.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I mean, well, have we all have him top ten?
What's the problem.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
He's think the first one out in the top ten
and someone else moves in?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Who Kobe? Yeah you think so? Oh, okay, I know
I know what that bad? That bad for you?
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Damn well, I mean I went over this with you.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
You take the best player Kobe ever played with, and
the best player that that Kobe ever played with Curry
and Kobe played with, Right and Shack and KT, and
you lay him out.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Who is the most dominant force of the four? It's shocked?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Shock Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
But and then if you're comparing all four, KD comes
in forethought out of the four, right, the guy who
literally can't win without Curry. Curry's got two rings without
and was robbed of a third ring without him because
(02:48):
of a suspension and injuries during during.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
The finals, we said the show that he Kry has
opportunity to the list still because he's still he's still
his prime thought, his prime. Plame still tailing this prime
and I don't I don't see another ring at this
point with this team anyway.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
But you know, man, look at this point he is
still ahead of Kobe in the all time greatness.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Okay, by the way, the seventh the last week about
Kobe being faced the league whatnot, we got got a
lot of tracks on down on social media. We got
trashed on there.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
You and I.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
People don't believe. I'm like, do you guys? Do you guys?
Do you guys listened to seven? First off, you weren't
see it wasn't great. We just said that we don't
think he was never face the leader because the circumstances.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Those are those are people who are literally living off
of bus from other players.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
If you watched it with your own eyes, Kobe was
never the face of the league.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
And that the good enough. Just the circumstances. It was
mostly circumstances he would have been. If crowd doesn't happen,
he would have been spaced the league.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
No so, but because of it, you don't get credit
for what didn't happen, all right, exactly, you're just not
the face of the league.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, my mind, I agree with you. Anyway, before we
get to our our picks. Uh pot rankings time Week
fourteen coming up, And my god, these rankings were I mean,
we don't have we don't have a clear cut favorite
right now in the league. We have a bunch of teams.
Let's get let's get this bottom these bottom five, man,
this bottom five is so put the same same five
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team pretty much in there. I don't want extra one,
but okay, give me about a five one, all right?
Speaker 7 (04:34):
So worst saying the worst, worst seeming league still hasn't changed. Tight,
it's Tennessee, second worst seaming league still hasn't change. For me,
it's the Las Vegas at thirty one. Yeah, at thirty
it's the Saints. To me, okay, I'm gonna keep the
Jets even though they just had a.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Great game at twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
And I know this team has a better record than yours,
the way oldest they have been playing, they deserve to
be twenty eight.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And that's the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Oh that's a good one. That's a good one. I
didn't consider that. I probably shouldnser that one, all right
for me? Three to two, Titans, I agree with you.
This is where you and I me to be off
a little bit. Thirty one the Giants, uh thirty the Saints,
which I agree with you als as well. Twenty nine
the Raiders, twenty eight I went to the Falcons with
(05:35):
the Falcons this time. Another game that put the should
be to the Jets by the Jets. You see the
start of the Jets. Though they won more games in
the November than the Chiefs and the Colts. See you
see that's that pretty crazy.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Huh. I did not see that, but that is remarkable.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's pretty crazy, man. The Jets turn turn things around.
Aaron Lynn, let's go all right, we got the to
bottom five top ten number.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Tell me you got buddy at number ten making my list? No, no, sorry,
we're not there at number ten. It's the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Okay, I like that. Uh ten for me is the
Chargers actually now having said that, low concerned because they
played one football with the Olympics. Just Herbert may may
not play a game because he had surgery, was having
surgery this week on his on his was his hand,
it was his hand, some of that. But he he may,
(06:28):
he may still he may play. Still nothing serious. Still
he could miss the game. But they kind of got
on the radar now last couple weeks though, Chargers.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Yeah, I actually took them off of my list this week,
just going over who they have been playing recently to even.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
To be winning.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
I had a drop all right, number nine he got
at number nine. A new team on my list, the Texans.
They have them falling out of late and they deserve
the respect.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, best even football CD Strup played very well. It's
Indy all of a sudden, the back in the race
down for the division. Culture falling apart a little bit. Yeah,
I see that. Unfortunately on my top ten though, number
nine for me, the Bills, that's that's a I know pittmorsh,
I know Pittsford's will be mid. But that's a big
win against the Steelers now on the road. It's a
big win. I agree, you know what I mean because
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that because that's right now, that wildcard in the AFC
is getting very, very very messy. It's very crowded. So look,
Buffalo at this point pretty much has no chance to
win the division. But five weeks ago that the three
back and honestly four back with the tiebreaker, so the
ODDO winning division is sim to none. So the wildcard
it's a mess, so you want to get in that.
(07:40):
You want to have that win. If you lose like
gaming and five, now all of a sudden you have
the team behind you clawing at you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Nah.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
You want to make sure you have enough enough ones
possible to avoid get into that mess in the final
weeks of the season. So big win for Buffalo. There
it last week. Bill's number nine, all right, he got.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
At number eight. I probably put him to.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
I just haven't been inspired by them of late Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yep, I see it. I see it. I definitely see it.
They are struggling. You're seeing sign the twenty twenty three
over again. It's that good thing. Either. How about another
game in it Brown as well, and they still lose.
So again, what's the priority here, Brown? All to win games?
I think he's I do. I think if they if
they even they win a super Bowl, but I think
especially they don't if they're out of the playoffs. Whatever
(08:27):
that he's done in Philadelphia this year, I think they're
gonna pup his bullshit anymore. So number eight for me
is a nine ers. What a story, dude. Nine wins
this year and again another team on the radar, Winny
nine game this year with all the injuries brought pretty
miss bolts of the year, and Kyle Shannon is still
plugging along, plugging along and right, and they're right in
the mix of the division. Dude, they're right there. They're
right there. Half a game behind them Seattle in the Rams.
(08:50):
It's a great story there in Sampruisco. So nine ers
with me, number eight, Number seven he.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Got and number seven I have Green Bay.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
They's turned it on to the late. But again it's
a hitt and mess team. Jordan Love is literally up
and down like an e KG.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So yeah, I also agree with him seven as well too. Yeah,
They're a team that I don't like. There weeks when
I'm like, I like you guys, and you got a
super Bowl team in no weeks Like I don't trust
the I don't trusts man done. But man, this week
against the what they did this week against the Detroit
prett much dominating them pretty much. I mean, that's pretty
(09:28):
impressive stuff there, man. And know I know the Bears,
the Bears right now with the story in the NFC North,
but Packers are still scary.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Man.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
How the Powers Packers are a super ball team. How
the powers, and.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
No, I think the bigger issue was, like the Lions,
as you mentioned them, is you have a special teams
coach who's now calling the offensive plays.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Reminds you of some misd you some of another team
from way back when. But all right, number six.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
We got at number six.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
It's the NFC NFC North leaders right now and actually
the number one seed in the NFC, the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
They cannot be stopped.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
They are slowly, slowly up slowly buying them slowly. But
I mean it's it's a big win on in Philadelphia
on a Friday. That's a big win. And I said
in the show on the show last week, if they
win this game, they will crack my ten. This is
the first time this year been in my top ten
and I said, they win this game, they'll crap my ten.
And they are there. They'll be in a second. And
(10:29):
that's a higher than you actually six for mes Eagles,
the team the team they beat again, they're the one
team that at any point they can turn on and
be the best team football. And it's not close their
team that they're the most talent team football. There's there's
something going on there and it's easy to see ag
(10:50):
brown and maybe it is a brown, but I think
it's more than that. It's what is that? I mean?
I never see Eagles defense gun gash like that on
the ground, on the on the ground like yardists were.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
It was over two hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, it was horrible. I'm like, what the hell I've
never seen Egles demons play play as bad? Four on
the ground, un legal, but six of Eagles holding out hope,
not hoping, holding out that they would actually climb back
in the top five. But but now I'm no.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
A number five. I think that this past weekend was
the switch that this team needed. And it's the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
I know, I know they'd be.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
An Aaron Rodgers team that where Aaron Rodgers couldn't even
throw for forty yards in the first half, couldn't throw
a ball past past the line of scrimmage. But again,
you go on the road, in the atmosphere and you
pull out a victory the way image they did.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
I think, yeah, man, something to this team, and I
think it's they turned the page.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, uh five Beers again, big win in Philadelphia.
I spent a little while ago when you picked them
in six, I'm still again, we'll get to the picks.
And second, if they can pull up win this Green
Bay this week. Now we got something talking about there.
But there's a five for me, all right.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
And four I have Seattle. I couldn't reward you with
who you played this this past weekend.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Okay, I'm sorry, but to be they.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Be, we're supposed to.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Just look at the quarterback they played against. I mean, honestly, got.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
What's his name? I remember his name, Prosper Probably the
worst interception that I've seen our life. You see that ship, I.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Don't know about.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Who is that one Bill's quarterback that through six their
inception seting Nate Nate Nate Peterman University.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, terrible, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yeah, and he got to stick around in the league
for a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah he might. He may lead out still to today day.
I gotta check it out. Ship four for me is
the Broncos again, another team that's you know, like the
Beers in the sense of the AFC. Well like the records.
The record, man, I'm still on the fence overall. Bo
Nick's is not having a great not having had a
(13:19):
great year, but the defense is amazing and there's sill
winning games and when when is winning? I guess right?
So I mean, do I still think that the super
Bowl team really just seem to go to Super Bowl? Well,
at this point, the AFC looks wight open, and if
the ABC doesn't have the Chiefs and the Raves in
the playoffs this year, every team is live. So my
default Denver before all right, well, three, you.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Got it's the best team in that they see with
that defense, you can go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It's the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, oh, we'll see more. I mean, obviously I had
my apprehension of this team, but three for me is
the Seahawks. That defense is what really is still be
on this team. That that is a that is probably
after Houston or just as good as Houston, the best
Devenson football in my opinion. So Seattle is the winnings
were supposed to And then most say about that, all right, two,
(14:11):
you got.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
At number two.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
It's because you cost me a ship ton of money
this past week, and and because you lost to a
quarterbacks five foot six.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
But yeah, it's the it's the Rams, all right. That
was embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
You could have lost any of your other games for
the last six seven weeks and I want to trash yet,
but this that was embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I was gonna pull I can't post for I got
to pass the two passed the two for me traight,
Mae might be MVP. He might yeah, the best deep
both runing the league in the game right now. He's
I don't get it, like, and they're not overly talented
really in my opinion. I mean, I have a good players, but.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
They don't have a receiving corp you'd ever want to have.
They don't have a running game you'd ever trade for.
And yet he's doing what he's doing right.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
It's weird how good they are. But I guess Vegas
new eight and a half wins they knew, maybe question
your story, like eight and a half wins, I don't
get it. Well, they're two now, so they go. One
for you used.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Patriots, right, one for me is the Patriots?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, one the Rams. I couldn't pull the trigger this yet.
On that I still think kind of powers. They're better
than all these teams right now. They would do a
bad loss. And as bad as they played on Sunday,
they almos hold that game anyway, So I don't want
to hold that against him this yet, you know, in
a year where every team has one bad loss, this
(15:48):
is their bad loss. Although Carolina, I don't know. I
don't know if you can call Carolina bad loss now
when you have some wins and they right now in
the middle of the playoff race and that they con
win NFC South.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
So I had a parlay, a ten team teaser. That
was the only loss. I also had a fifteen game parlay.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
And if it wasn't for a basketball game where the
Bulls lost.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
The garbage, oh my god, I would have been cursing
off a storm looking at that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Oh my god. I had five.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
Games in the NFL, NFL three out of four, and NBA,
and then went four out of five for NFL. I
was losing my mind on that one on that play.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
No, don't blame you, man, But fifteen game partly, my
god was on my line. No, all spriends, that's that's
a problem.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
It wouldn't have mattered the Rams and the Bulls still
would have screwed me.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
No, I get it. I got it spread a long
time ago. All right, we fourteen best bets before we
get started our by the are the last buys a year.
By way, we have fourteens and buyers have the Panthers,
the Patriots, the Giants and the Niners. A Zach of
these four teams who need to buy more?
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Oh, probably the Niners probably need it more for healthwise. Yeah,
Panthers probably hate.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
This by because I mean they're winning right now.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Ye yeah, I agree. I agree that on the pass
Also two, I mean the Niners rather the Paths are healthy,
I think, right.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
I mean they're messing their left tackle and he's not
coming back for a couple more weeks, so having this
bind means nothing for.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Him, right right, I'm within the Niners also two, And
I agree with Carolina also too. For the momentum now
they could used to keep playing, you know, I get that.
All right. Here we go thursdaynight Football, huge game, Cowboys
at Lions. The lines of people in favorites the over
under ZAC. That's twenty four and a half four huge game.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
I should really play it safe, take the over.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
But my feeling right now with Dan Campbell calling plays,
give me the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Give me the Cowboys. With Campbell blowing this game because
of going forward on fourth down one, Cowboys going Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Well I'm playing a safe in the over, but Dallas
defense is really woken up now, really really really done.
Decent job a couple of weeks and my best life
with my buddy U Mario, who I after my bet
hunt all bet games with my life.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
That trade for that trade for Quinton Williams where they
were killing Jerry Jones earlier.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
It is paying off massively, right.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It really is, It really is.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I went over this one just to be safe because
you you know, I can't say the short week because
both these tams played the third of last week, so
it's actually a full full week, so that was playing.
But one team's going, ascending, team's descending. But Detroit anytime
they one who they can just turn on. I mean so,
but I'll I'll take you over this one, all right, Sunday,
here we go. We got Seahawks at Falcons. The Seahawks
(19:22):
in point favorites, the over under ZAC is forty four
and a half.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Give me the Seahawks. This will be.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
This is one of those games those games you're not
even something post to take a West Coast team. You
should automatically take the East Coast team with the points.
But fuck that Atlanta is trash right.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Now, Yeah, they're so trash in my bottom five. Give
me Seahawks. Well two, I'm with you, all right. We
got Titans at Brown's. Oh my god, there we go.
The Browns are four point favorites. The over under Zac
is thirty four and a half.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Oh, give me the under. And you know what, camp Lord,
you want to even improve. You deserve to be a
first round draft pick over this kid. You better show
up this week.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Oh I'm I'm be in Cleveland. I think clean defensive
Loan wins this game. It was one thing that that
that the Browns do well. One of the team most
teams in the league anyway, is their defensive dominant. So
give me the rounds to win this game. I think
the cop four points is undepensilone. So all right. We
got Commanders at Vikings. The Vikings and one a half
win favorites. The over under Zach is, what do you
want to happen?
Speaker 7 (20:35):
It's really gonna hurt our draft status. But yeah, it's
gonna hurt my draft status. But Washington wins this game,
and I don't know if it's even gonna be close.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, I got Washington too. Yeah, Minnesota sucks. I'm assuming,
I'm assuming that same kid that started for the Vikings
and starting again.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
McCarthy was on a concussion. Yeah, so he should be
back by now.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
He's young enough. It's his first concussion that I'm aware of,
even through college.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, boy, I am not surprised to watch it was
almost when the game is Denver, I am not surprised whatsoever.
I am all right, Dolphins at Jets. The Dolphins in
two and a half point favorites. The over under Zach
is forty one.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Give me the Dolphins on her comeback of the season. Man,
keep that train rolling.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I think they do win the game, most likely, but
I'm gonnak the overnest one, especially over its low enough.
I don't trust two of those. Bro was so open.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Totals so enough. If you think Dolphins are gonna win,
you might as well take it true.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But I think both these teams, I think both these
teams can't score. The Jets out of no where are
scoring twenty plus play plus the game. Now I'm late,
so why not? Why not? Might might not be a
twenty twenty four games? You know, might as son be
over this one, all right, Saints at Saints at Bucks.
The Bucks of our eight and a half point favorites.
The over under Zach is forty three.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Give me the over eight and a half. Division rival game.
Bucks are still missing pieces. Baker's hurt. I just don't
see him.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Conrade, I thought about that too, also, man. But every
for every two or three good Saints games, the competitive
Saints games, there's a bad one on your horizon. I
think this is the bad one in the horizon. Eight
Bucks cover to spread here, all right, huge game here,
Colts at Jaguars. The Colts are one a half point
favorites the over under Zach it's forty seven and a half.
(22:40):
It's respectful, too, disrespectful spread there for the Jacks Jackson
Jackson Jas right now in first place by virtue of
the tibreaker.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Yeah, so again, I want to remind you of my
tradition earlier this season, before the season started.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Yeah, that's probably what's.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Gonna leave me to make this pick. Indiana has turned
into Danny. Give me Sunshine, Give me Sunshine and his
boys to win this.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Game and cover well.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
To be fair, though he is hurt.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Though, yes, he can't run, and that really limits him.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, I'm taking you under in this game as the
best bets the unders. I heard the Colts is faired. Man,
is that they hit a wall and the wall, so
give me under this one, all right. Just a big game, big, big, big,
big game.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Steelers at Ravens. The Ravens six point favorites. He over
under Zack's forty three and a half.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I've crushed the Ravens of like, crush them all season
because they've been trash rightly.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
So look, I don't care how bad your defense is.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Anybody can stop the Steelers with Aaron Rodgers playing right
now the way he's playing, give me the Ravens to.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Cover Lamar's hurt. I think Lamar is still hurt.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
I don't care if he is hurt, though, so is
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Dude cannot throw a football past the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, I'm thinning over this game, though the deep is
still pretty shaky. I think Lamar is still hurt, though,
but at the same time, both is better. I'm we
should be too surprised, I said Bengals one last week,
but uh yeah, push is bad and I honestly I
think I see a world now when Mike Tomas alone
to coach it this year.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
My biggest concern with the Ravens, though, is why isn't
Derek Henry getting the ball?
Speaker 6 (24:44):
What is going on with that? Ten carries? Twelve carries?
This dude is still the beast in this league.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
That's a Jim Horber problem. Jim Harber might might be
much longer the same. All right, Bengals at Bills. The
Bills are five and a half points favorites. The over
under is two and a half. Zach Joey Burr's back.
You saw immediately what it is. Kid is good. You
(25:17):
got this one. Oh man, you know they can run
the table. Actually, Bengals run the table.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
I should again, this is like first first Thursday night game.
The smart bets just take the over. But again I
lose my money because I don't do the smart bet.
Give me the Bengals to win.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
I got the over. I'll tell you what, though, they
win this game. Here's a ring schedule. Put the Bengals
after this week. You got the Ravens at home, which
you ready beat Murdy, the Cardinals, the Browns, oh wait, sorry, y'all,
the Ravens, the Dolphins on the road, the Cardinals and
the Browns. So they get through this game gets scary
(26:06):
because they know they'll own every time. Breaker two with
with with the Steelers, and I think the Steelers tarbreaking.
I think the almost too, I believe. So if in
the way the Steelers playing and so the Ravens playing
right now, it's very, very possible the Bengals can run
to take like last year in Steelers vision.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
I really can't afford that to happen because that man,
I would lose a seven team division parlay because Kansas.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Oh we lost him, we lost Zach hold On. All right,
you would talk about the Bengals and the schedule and
what they can you hear me, Yeah, you're fine, you're
fine recording now. So you're talking about the Bengals and
the parlor you have going to the Chiefs. And then
we lost you. Oh we lost you again. All right,
(26:54):
So we lost you twice. Now I'm back though. You
talking about the Bengals, and you said he had a
big part of the chief Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
So like I have Jacksonville, I have the Rams. I
have the Eagles who are still winning right now.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Green Bay is only half a game.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Now, I got a couple more, but yeah, I took
the Bengals, but I had the Chiefs also to win
their their their division. Yeah, exactly, so that the Bengals
come back from being lay out of the picture. It'll
be heartbreaking to.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Lose just by one, right, Yeah, on the one he
thought was really safe, you know, right, it.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Was better to have like if you lose, make you
lose the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Yeah, at least there's a couple.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I agree. I totally agree with you on that. All right.
Next game Broncos at Raiders. The Broncos and some point favorites,
the over under zachs forty a half forty eight and
a half forty.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yeah, I actually think the Broncos could score forty one.
I guess the Raiders, so just giving the Broncos to cover.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Last that's the last thing he played though, number one,
ten to seven.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Yeah, that was what early early in the season, right.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I think like week six, Week six, weeks seven I
think was oh shit, I'm on, I'm one under. There
were there were partly scored twenty some points, but then
they'll you know, we're just going nothing son there. All right,
it's a huge game. Who have thought this game had
been a game of the week. Probably Bears at Packers.
(28:36):
The Packers six one favorites, the over unders Zachs forty
four and a half. This is the most important Packers
can be seen years.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Man, I just can't buy the consistency of the Packers.
All right, I get it.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
The Bears are beating up mostly on garbage teams, but
the Packers just are not inconsistent. Give me the pack
giving the Bears getting the point.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I'm with you too. Also, look, Green may may win
this game still, but the points, there's a lot of points.
It's a lot of points for a team that's so
up and down. That's the points you're definitely, And look
they may win a game too, also, but I think
anything bears in the points here, definitely. All right. Rams
at Cardinals The Rams were eight point favorites the over
under Zachs forty eight.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
After that humiliating loss, I have to expect the Rams
to come back out and perform.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
So give me, give me the Rams.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I might go the other way and put the Cardinal
the points here. Rams win the game, but I think
the Cardinals are the points. Get home. The Cardinals have
been frisky all year long. Jacoby Brissette has been playing
some good football's his career. Yeah, dude, really really like
I sort of got The best job in the world
is back a quarterback. If you're if you're good enough
(29:53):
to come aspop duty, you can make easy five dollars
a year just doing that job. Best job in the world.
Jacob Prose could be a quarterback. It is leaping at
that five or six years just doing that.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
He's getting up there in age. Man, he's been in
this thing for a while.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
What ten years?
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
What ten years? But still he's still still he's still solid.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
I would say the position that is stealing the most
money is the Detroit Lions punter.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
That man is probably making two million dollars and he's
probably punted five times the all season.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, because he's going forth down the time. All right,
sunlight football. Texans at Chiefs. The Chiefs with three a
half point favorites, he over unders zach Is forty two.
Is this the day the Chiefs will get great for good?
Speaker 6 (30:41):
I believe this is the burial rights right here.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Honest to god, I believe the Texans and any hope
for the season for the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Do you have Houston?
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I absolutely have. She used to tend to cover.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I think she said, I think the Chiefs would have
went out. Honestly, I think I think giving them how
big a mess the AFC walk car pictures right down,
I think I don't eve think to win's enough anymore.
I think eleven wins to even have a chance to
the wall card, which means that I went out the
entire year. Now, to their credit, they have a Their
schedule is kind of weird because they have a couple
of top games there, but a lot of them on home.
(31:18):
I'm bringing up right now real quick, tell you, I know,
I know they So I have Houston this week, chief
schedule to see you quick, Houston this week. Then they
have Okay, so they have homes, the Chargers, uh, Titans
on the road, Bronco was at home, and then the
Raiders on the road. So the good news that all
(31:39):
their top games went home. So it is feasible that
you went out. But I don't think they will, nah,
I don't think they will.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
They I don't see them being Denver, and I don't
see them winning this game. So there's two more losses
right there.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
That's eight right there.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Yeah, I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
But I'm gonna take case and what have I told
you all your long? Until I see that the Chiefs
are eliminating the play contention, I'm not gonna believe it.
So I just believing in Mahomes and believing in any
read give me Chiefs with this game, just be cause
it's the Chiefs. So all right. And finally, one Night
Football Eagles at Chargers. The Eagles peak win favorites. The
over under is forty one.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
Zach, give me the Eagles. I mean, you don't even
know whether or not Herbert's gonna play exactly.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Eventually, the either this is the game that finishes the
Eagles season or pros it was just.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
A blip in the in the road to another championship.
And that's what I really hope it is for the.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Ag So is it death coon five? The highest one.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Alright? That is deaf cond one one?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Right, whatever the highest one is of the highest alert
is they lose this game. That's where we're at now,
because if Dallas wins, if Dallas wins the game, one
on Football, Eagles Eagles lose on my night, not you're
a game behind in the division and I and then
you have all that stuff going on in Philadelphia. In Philadelphia,
the locker room's not going on. I mean that is
a problem. So they this is the must went for
(33:13):
the Eagles and must win for Eagles. I think they'll
do it because and they're lucky because U Herbert's availability
is not unsure right now. I mean I think even
let's play. I think he'still win a game. But who knows. Man,
this has been a very very uh discouraging stretch for
the Eagles as a late. So but I will put
the Eagles win because they do have the better team.
They should win this game. So and there's the best
(33:35):
bets for this week before we get out of here
one last time. And thank god because after this we
have top them anymore. So I can't stand them for
the seminal seasons for over they are not Bowl eligible
when they went top five and seven this year, So
to put a bowl in the year, Zach, last minute
for the season, What grade? What other wad you're giving
into the seminoles this year?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Oh man?
Speaker 7 (34:04):
I should give them. I mean, they they earned an F.
They earned an F, but I really want to give
them that D plus.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
For this C minus so that maybe.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
They don't have to retake the course for the simple
fact they gave me hope the first three weeks of
the season, especially that first week when they beat Alabama
and it crushed a lot of my family's hard But.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
If I'm being real, it's another f absolute failure.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Which way, when the season started on top of that
two to go three zero dominant fashion, beat Alabama week one,
the whole nine, you think, oh my god, this is
a great year, and then it just fall apart after that.
I went I went D because they did double more
than double the win told last year. But of course
to and ten I mean nor but up And the
(35:05):
only reason they're gonna D is because they did be
out out of this year. Other than that, there's nothing
else to really look at as like a positive at all. Yeah,
I mean, LOI Pittsburgh lose Miam's veomy, are I get it?
Speaker 7 (35:18):
You get blown out by Miami. The ending of that
game is BS. You get blown out by Florida, you
get blown out by Clemson. So essentially your three biggest
rivals you got destroyed at.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Right, and at this point for me, it's gonna be okay.
Nobel staying on the year. We know that they said that.
What's next. I mean, do you retool the coach Stephan again,
because you did that this this past offseason. You know
who knows? I don't know. I think this team is Uh,
(35:52):
they're a mess. You're a mess and in the worst
port they play in a very easy conference.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
You're going to continue to chase after players from from
outside the state of Florida in the portal.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
You're going to continue to be a bottom peter.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
If you could at least focus on on the high
school seniors here in Florida so that you have depth
and talent, maybe you stand a chance against lesser opponents.
But that isn't this guy's guy's prerogative. He thinks he
with what Bobby Bountain, Bill and Jim jimbo Fisher had
(36:31):
going on, that he can go recruit out outside of
this state and compete against the big boys.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Dude, you're a shit coach. Focus on this state. Please,
I agree?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
I agree? So now he put the knowles to bed finally,
not the way that the nuisance obviously, Zach, let you
pick this week and uh yeah, is that the last
time doing this show segment on the show in the studio?
So oh, the next time we do another show next week.
(37:07):
We'll be in a new studio, all right. Yeah. So
although I'm want to move into Billings Over, so.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
I still gotta get that moving. Man, still gotta care
and ship.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I'm not looking forward to it, brother, not looking for
it at all, not looking for twitter. So good talk
about you, man, and good luck all right, man, good
luck to you. You got a brother. Later later,
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