October 1, 2025 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 4 (00:57):
Earnestly speaking, leave it e like ais Perst of podcasts
coming to you. Record this on Tuesday night, Setember twenty
twenty five. It is week the week five edition of
e J Versus Degenerate and of course joining here by
(01:17):
our favorite degenerate Zachary.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
What's up, buddy?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Not much man?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
How dro gambling go this weekend?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Dude? I don't I crushed it on college. I had
a nine geamer where.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Only one game.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Talk me, LSU, did you flex it?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
No? I don't believe in that ship.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Okay, you either go hard, go go go, yeah, go
broke and go go home?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Right, go home? Let me know saying this.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I had a couple of small parlays for the twelve
o'clock and I hit one teaser.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But yeah, to be one game away where I mean
you're kicking a field goal that would have been meaningless.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But that's prettymu store by to of college.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
The last two weeks, like I told you guys on
the show that I stopped betting spreads and I'm starting
I'm just betting money line.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm taking like.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Ten, eleven and twelve teen parlays betting money line only.
And I get like eleven to twelve or nine to
ten and one game doesn't hit.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It sucks a couple of underdogs.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
So that right, it was a five five dollars nine game.
We're paying thirteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
But I I did make money this weekend though. What
happened this weekend I bet two parlays in the NFL.
But what I did, though, is that I made decisions
to early cash out during the parlays, not feeling that
the best going to hit. And I made the right
decision too, because those those bets I did cash out
end up not hitting. So had I not taken early
cash out, I gotten zero.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So the like. For example, I had.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
A parlay with Green Bay covering and winning, and in
the third quarter I had a chance to take up money.
I'm like, I'm not feeling this game, bro, I'm not
feeling this shit.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Let me take my money. I'll take the money.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I lived the other day, and I was right because
they end up tying the game, you know, obviously. I
mean it was one of those things where like this
is why live banks kind of cool. You get a
nice vibe of the game. You know, obviously, gotta make
sure you know what you're doing. But so I did
did win. Want to call that that's a product. But
in the end I end up being correct, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I did a five were a sixth Tember. I
think it was fine in the late afternoon window and
the Sunday night and the Monday night. So no, I
did a sixth tamer. Okay, the only games I got
right were Monday night. I lost the first two on
(03:49):
the four o'clock games. I lost the Sunday night game,
and it was literally only the two Monday night games.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
It was so no way I lost that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I lost three four o'clock, I lost the eight o'clock
Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It was terrible on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know what sucks though, on Monday Night football, I
I got gun shy.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I didn't bet at all, and I had I bet
what I wanted to do, I would have wonuse what
I would have done was a fourteen parlay Dolphins to win,
Dolphins the color to cover, and then I would bet
the Bengals to the Bengals. The Bengals so the Broncos
to win, and then the under all four would have hit.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
But I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I was gun shy because I was I didn't have
a vibe of the game like you have the Jets,
who owned three but I've been playing but in the
three losses, who's played better than three games the Jets have?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I told you, I really I knew this was Dolphins
first one of the season.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, I k winning game too. Was I wasn't confident.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
One of the things I saw and I was like
I told a guy at work who he puts me
to shame. He is an absolute degenerate. They I come
into work in the morning, he is trying to put
together bets. I come, I come in at lunchtime. He's
putting together bets. He is constantly on.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But uh, we were going over bets for the Monday
night game and one of them was past attempts for
Justin Fields under twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Ooh do you go under Justin Fields.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
With eight minutes to go in the second quarter? So
an entire full quarter, first quarter and half.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Of the second had one entire past attempt you know
where the total pass attempts for him finished.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
At nine twenty eight twenty seven? Oh fuck me, bro?
They doing?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Bro? How they come up with this ship?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Sometimes insane?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's insane. That is crazy. But again there's a proper
everything though apparently Oh there that's what that's a little
bit of value. And also that the value go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Sorry, you can adjust the props so you can go
up or down to get money.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
To be honestly, that's what really the value is at
in the props.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You can find the good value in the props, but
you have to be confident they'll hit like the the
one Cowboys and Packers that I actually hit on, but
mostly props.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
J J.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Jacobs a time touchdown, Jordan Love passing yards, Dak Prescott
anytime touchdown, you know, all things of that nature, You
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So I hit those and then when when, then, when
I had the two legs.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Left to do, I had a chance for early cash out,
I took the early cash out and I was right.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So anyway, I won again this week ten games to seven.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, ten to seven, So I'm now up to to
two games against you.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Week five. Here we got a first set of buys here,
four teams on buys this a week.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And at the Falcons, the Bears, the Steelers and the
Packers all on buyers this week. Of the four teams, ZAC,
who needs to buy them in your opinion? Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Probably the after you came out Game Busters week one,
you won game to week two, and since then you've
got a loss and a tie where you should have lost.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So yeah, toy toy, gree on that one wing to
the package all two.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
The Steelers also too, can make a case too, because
even though the three and one, they they haven't really
put together a whole four fourth quarter game yet, I
mean one.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
They're catching breaks too, because now I'm gonna get to
the Braves in a second. Lamar Jackson can be out
two three weeks and then one three the Bengals stink
out loud without Joel Burrow, and then the Browns with Browns.
So the Steelers now insist runway the damn thing, even
not playing well. Yeah, so we'll see how it plays
out in weeks to come. Anyway, Week five, here we go,
(07:53):
first night game. We have Niners at Rams, Zach. The
Rams are six and a half win favorites over Under.
It's forty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh man, give me the Rams six and a half.
That is far too many points to be given.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
You have a banged up team like like the forty
nine Ers.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So I can see that. But this is also dig
rivally too, man. I mean this is always these games
will always close no matter what. So I mean I
get the reason why this is. This is this biggest
because of the injuries. To your point, I'm gonna go
over on this one. I'll go over this one. See
something little bit of scoring here, probably the high twenties,
you know, So give me over this one.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
All right, uh, by way, both teams three one. It's
just a big game.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So two weeks in a row, we got two big,
two big NFC West thurs Night games in a row.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
So we'll see, Hey, I need say future, yeah, yeah,
all right, next one we have the I think this
is the nine thirty game on on Sunday Morning, Vikings
at Browns.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
The Vikings are three a half points favorites over under
the stories and gonna half.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Thirty six and a half. That will probably be the
lowest total all season.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I can see that, so I should be.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Saying just take the over. But you know what, the
Browns have looked good.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
They've had a couple of bad quarters here and there,
but one I don't even know.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Who's gonna play quarterback for for the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, but get give me the Browns. That's mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I can see that. I can see that.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Even even as lows this is, I still love the under.
I think the Browns winn this game, to your point,
because their defense that I think they pulled did they
pull Joey too? Also on top of that, I play
pull Joe block on the fourth quarter. Somed somebody ha
said Dylan Gabel came in the game lately late late.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Again.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I don't think got hurt or whatever, but Dylan Gable
play that in the game against the Detroit.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, I missed the I left the bar at halftime
for most of the first first the one one pm game.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah yeah, you set pictures of you having breakfast with beer.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I know, yeah, no, No, it was just.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Washington was looking like trash and so I didn't feel
like staying staying there. Plus my wife wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
It was okay, just you. I would have joined you,
but I've didn't have plans. What was I doing same morning?
I had to work, That's what I was doing. So but
I'm going to the under. This was like a seventeen
thirteen game here. It really does, it really does, all right?
You got Raiders at Colts, the Colts at some point,
favorites of the Zach your Runders forty eight.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
God, I wish it was six and a half. I
really wish this game was six and a half.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And that then that you don't tease, you like, you'ren't
teasing at all.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Oh I love teases. Okay, I want to tease here.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
What's the total on the points.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, give me the over.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Mm hmmm, I like that number.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Take that back, no scratch that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Give me the under defense against Raiders, Yeah, give me
the under.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Okay, I'm going Colts here, I think. I look, I
think the Colts, even after losing to LA I'm still
impressed by them. Like I was saying, like this game
was a one of those bets from a game. Okay,
I can't take you fully seriously yet, like you used
tender member had a conversation that the bar.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Two weeks ago about I need to see a game
that made me sell on that.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And now they lost the game, although one can argue
that they lost it because of their own dumb, stupid
ship they did on that game. Game right, So I
actually feel I did a podcast earlier today and I said,
I feel good about the Colts even after the loss.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think he comes out had a gang Busters and wins.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Honestly, the Raiders after the Freak one have been really
mid bad, very good.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, when it's a solid seven, I worry about pushes.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I am, I did too, but I think they'll cover
over touchdow. I think they whinning to blow out. Honestly,
that's that's why I'm confident.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I don't know about blowout.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I I so I could see a twenty eight to
ten game, a twenty eight fourteen game. Yeah, cover the
spread and will stay under.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So right, true? All right? We got Giants at Saints.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
The Saints of two and a half point favorites the
over under Zach, it's forty one.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Get the fuck out. The Saints are a favorite.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, I make sure, but two that points two? That points?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Was the overrunder?
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
The favorite name? Yeah? Make sure? So yeah, yeah, it
opens to pick them, and now they're two that one favorites.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I yet to be.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
No one on your defensive line has gotten heart like
is out?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
No, not out?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
But your past rush isn't isn't affected right now?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
They're all played the last week. I'll played well last week.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Charged, I get the Giants past rush and I get
Jackson Dart plus points.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Give me the fucking Giants. I'm all over this week.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm going over in this one. I gotta tell you though.
The Saints have looked very frisky this year. Damn that
Bill's game that scores Ondicative.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
That was a game. They were in that game only
through the middle of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
The Buffalo was sixty point favorites and by the fourth
courter like O, they're not gonna cover this. They're not
gonna cover this, are they? They didn't cover the course
the Saints were that game.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So it is Spencer Radler's last hope for being a
starter in this league.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So yeah, yeah, I thought by way, I thought Dart
looked looked Okay, he just did his job.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
His legs obviously is very effective. A little bit of Daniel.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Jonson a little bit too, but I feel like a
little more, a little more flash though. I'll say this
much too. Also the Giants, and I said in the
podcast or yesterday this the neighbors injury actually saves Dabell's job,
possibly because that's the building excuse now, because the priority
right now is this developing dark If if Dart develops
(14:18):
to be a solid quarterback, they're gonna write out would
be able to be the year.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Cincinnati is going going through the tubes, right, I mean,
they're probably gonna gonna fire Zach, Zach.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't think Joe Burrow injury is gonna be is
gonna save him again?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Okay, so but let's pretend Cincinnati's coach gets fired available,
do you think they keep Brian Dabell.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Mhm if dark shows promise, yeah, all right, if dark
shows promise, yeah, I think that the priority is dark.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I think they would fire Dabel to bring in the
Cincinnati coach.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
The thing is, if Dave all shows propers at Dart
and Dart strong progress even without neighbors, and you get
names back next year. On top of that, now you
now you have no excuse next year. Now you're gonna
put all together. So that's why they.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Move with this girl girl Odell Beckham situation where there's
pressure to always throw it to the supposed number one.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, but I don't think Neighbors that kind of guy.
I mean, you know, I know he's a little flashyp
I don't think he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So I'm not for his contract that year.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
True, true, But he has a quarterback. Now when I
have the quarterback, Now you finish up to the quarterback.
You need to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna go over one now I
think it'll get it's low enough.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
To I'm I will take the Giants to win out right.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
This is a twenty three to twenty game Giants, So
all right.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
They take the Giants. Man, grow some balls, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
We got Cowboys at Jets.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
The Cowboys to that point favorites the over under Zach
it's forty seven and a half.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh well, obviously it's an over. I mean, you're gonna
bet the over in every single Dallas game going forward.
But one thing I want to touch on real quick ahead.
I really think Jerry Jones won the offseason trades, the
Pickens trade and the Mega Parsons trade. How lucky are
(16:27):
you to bring in a guy like Pickens and have
Ceedee Lamb go down like that saves your franchise and
saves your quarterback and gives you a possible a one
B option. And then Amiica Parsons, who wants forty seven
million dollars so.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
That he can impact the on defense once maybe twice
in a game.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Again, there's the argument about him being overrated and paying
that kind of money. Again, we're not gonna know for
a couple of years if that trade was successful failure,
you know. And the thing is the Cowboys, it's exactly
trust right now that if Dak wins one more game,
let's say they win that Packer game, instead of tie. Okay,
and then let's say that, uh, let's say that they
(17:16):
win that game against the Eagles, for example, which they
had a chance to. Dak Is Argaly MVP right now,
his numbers went through.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
The fucking roof.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
If if and if right.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
His numbers are great. I mean, I'm just gonna MP,
but he's his numbers are great right now. Having said that,
I'm with you as well. Two, the over is the
bed here, I mean, the the Cowboys won't be a
playoff team solely because that conference is much better. I mean, so,
all right, we got big game here, Broncos at Eagles. Uh,
the Eagles only three a half point favorites over under
four three and to a half.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Oh, give me the under in this game?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Really easy under this This to me screams seventeen to
thirteen can even be like a sixteen to thirteen with
with basically field goals.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Maybe it is, Maybe it is, but I have Eagles
win this game, not in a blowout, but definitely covering
three up. I felt the Eagles stillett disrespected, even though
they four and oh, and they haven't put together a
still to this even even into the four games of
the year.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
They haven't played a full four quarter game yet. Even
that Bucks game name was blue.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know what I'm saying That Broncos defense is so good.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
They are good, but we are. We are due for
an Eagles complete game at some point. I'm not GUSA
gonna blow out Denver, but I think this is cover.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Three to that points. Give me the Eagles win this game,
all right. We got Dolphins at Panthers.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
The Panthers are one point favorites the over under zac
it's forty four and a half.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Look I like to preseason. Give me the Dolphins none
that it's changed. Yes, the Panthers screwed me one game
this year.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
The Falcons game game all same here.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I got Miami Okay, premium wrong here because obviously Tyreek
Hill out for the year. That hurts, obviously, But Canda
argue that a Massy helped Inno sense Tarrek's got a
distraction at the same time.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I mean, yeah, it could. But on the Tyreek situation,
that's almost like a career ender. His ap what he
does on the field, his gift just got crushed.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, so he plays last games of Dolphin so yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I'm a Miami here. Darren Waller.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
If he can stay healthy, that could be that could
be something to work with Lowris Hardward.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So all right, we got ye, well exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
And by the way, Wattle should be the number one
guy anyway, because Wattle is being paid as such.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
So step up now, Broe.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
At the money that's being given out now, I don't
know if he is what was he?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, he's been paid a such. He's being paid such
at the top.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
So yeah, no excuse, all right Texans at ravens Uh
the text and the twenty point favorites over under Zach
is forty. I don't think I announced Lamar's uh.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
He Lamar is definitely out this week.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, he's They're saying that he's expected to be up
to three weeks. Does have announced him be out yet?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Because I would not bring in Lamar as long as
Ronnie Stanley's out like our Staley's out, Why would Why
would you bring your quarterback who's not one if you
were missing your left tackle blindside. But I want to
(20:46):
take the under. I just feel like that defense for Houston,
little shut down rush.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, and in fact that because that I'm thinking Houston
with his game out right in the cover, Lamar you
lose Lamar, that's that that's pretty much happier offense, more offense,
and they're banged up on top of that.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know, the question is can Baltimore survive?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Okay, if you're saying two three week let's go on
the front front end two weeks, can they survive two
more games.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Out Lamar Jackson and save the year?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I say yes for one reason because if Lamar's healthy
when it gets back and say three weeks to make
its back, the AFC is so weak anyway around in
the wild card that I see a scenario where an
eight eighteen gets in the playoffs, and I think this
team can still win ten games when it gets back,
because Lamar is that fucking good. Obviously, the margin is
smaller now because you know, I get a game, but
(21:47):
I think they're cable doing that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Do you think the division's out of question at this point?
I think Steelers in a lock now from the division.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
It feels that way because but I mean the think
with the Steelers that the Steelers have a level upside
that that's a scary thing.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
The three and one not playing well, But can it
get better? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Can Rodgers get better? By by by by November. Yeah,
you know, and can Demons get better? Yeah, So that's
the scary part. If the Steers don't just send and
so the quality play, then yeah, I'll say it one way.
But because they've they played so close to the cuff
and they have a couple of losses in the column,
(22:26):
I'm not gonna go through this yet because remember last
year too, I think they had big leader as well,
and then they blew the Leeds.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Well, So I mean and I feel like the Ravens'
toughest part of their schedule was early. Okay, all of
their tough teams were early.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
So if you think an.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Eight to nine game can still make the playoffs, then
and then I'll miss you there are season is.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Not over, I'll tell you right now. So their next
three games soon, that's some of the more miss next
three games Texans, Rams, Bears.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Can you get one? Can you get one win on
that one win?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
After their by What is their schedule after.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
The So the bye week is the Ram after the
Rams game is a bye week. And then so if
there's two three weeks, that means he could be back
for the Bears game, since manly two games probably gonna
be missing at most can they say two three games.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
The weeks.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
If if if the bye week? Wait, the bye week
is before the Bears game? Yeah, yeah, okay, so it
goes Bears and then.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
What Bears bye week?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
No, no, after the Bears, Dolphins on the road, Vikings
on the road, Browns on the road, Jets, Bengals without
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Still so it does get it?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Does?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
It's off the top?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, they definitely have hope.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
The question is can you can they take one of
these two games coming up Texans and this this game
is huge if they can steal this game, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I don't know if that Yeah, this game, I
feel like they have a five week stretch where they
can right the ship.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think you know what, honestly,
I think they will. Now what is the number one
see other question? Yes, probably the top two seeds. The
question is the division of the question, that's that's up
to the to the Steelers asked that question first. If
the Steelers played found the ball and then he beats
Toears twice, that teams everything in there.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
So I'm not ready to run him off the yet.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
In fact, I will still call the Ravens even at
one of three and without lower the nextW weeks a
suill contender, so.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So so much Lamark's back in three weeks. So yeah,
it is my.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Whole opinion after this because I was ready to write
them off for the season. I didn't even think they
could make the playoffs. But I hadn't liked as a
schedule and now go over it. Yeah, they should win
after Lamar gets back.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
If Lamar's come back that beers game, they should win
every game for the next month.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Okay, So even if you lose a couple of games here,
that put him with five and four, six and four.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay's weak playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Week two on top of that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
So yeah, I said, all right, Titans at Cardinals. Uh,
the Cardinals act are seven point favorites. Over under is
forty one and a half.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Oh, I really thought Titans had a shot this past week.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
They were in the game until there was six nothing
for a good, good chuck of the game, and then
they just let it go.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah, well I.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Never should have. I gotta get rid of this Chris
voice in my head about camp Ward. Like I knew
cam Ward wasn't the guy. He's not a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
To win.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I don't think he's the problem is it's a bad team.
It's a bad team.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, the block they they stripped that team down. So
watch so you know what, give me Arizona.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I'll be bro I'll be honest to you. They won't
win this game. I'm taking tencent to points.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I don't trust I was going to cover seven points.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I think all the sure going on with the coaching
and pissed off and Cam's comments after the game, I
think honestly that I think he'll I think they'll they'll
play better, and I think he'll be in the game.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Give me tennessee the points here plus seven.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
You screw me when I finally bet on you? Fuck you.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Whould have thought this might be the game of the week.
Who would have thought this one? Buccaneers at Seahawks the Seahawks.
If you half pint favorites the over under Zach, it's
forty four and a half.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
All right, before we say anything, Okay, the new red
Rifle Sam Donald halluyah red man.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So to sut to all the genders out there like yourself.
Yes he's pretty what I text you, he's the new
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Now he's not the top quarter record league, but he's
definitely serviceable. He's definitely a guy can make a Pro Bowl.
He's definitely a guy that gets gets the playoff.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Twelve quarterback is honestly quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Honestly, yes, base the last two years, yes, yes, Now.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Two games for two games against two of the best
teams in the league.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Now pretty when when your playoff game, that's the question.
But he gets you the playoffs absolutely, YEA last year.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Out of his mind. And so you know what, I'm
ryding with Sam Donald. Now I'm running.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I'm ride with the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You see one is the game?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yes, wow, I'm taking you over in this one Tampa.
You know it's funny like the Colts and AFC. Even
though he lost in Philadelphia, they showed me something. I mean,
they're all banged up, lines banged up, and Evans is
out and all these guys are out and they were
still in that game.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The Bucks are gonna be once once the Bucks went.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Full full strength, they're gonna be scary because big and
I feels the top in the quarterback and now and
now with Borough being gone and all this stuff, he's
now a snug top ten guy. Now now he scares
teams now in the fourth quarter. So I'll go I'm
gonna go to the over this game though it's in Seattle.
(28:26):
But if they could pull this game off in Seattle
in that in that environment, and I guess against a.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Team that I'm still not sure if they're this good,
but the three and one I have course my Seattle.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Still this is the most from Seattle too, because like again,
if we believe the NC is as good as it is,
they got stuggame wins on on the front of now.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Because if these teams ahead of.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Them are gonna be are who they are and you
think they are going forward, they they have to find
a way to you know, win ten plus games who
went to in the playoffs. So these games are gonna
matter in the end. So this is actually kind of
sneaky musk game must win for Seattle. Haven't said all
that give me you over in this one?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, I told you.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Last year Sam Donald was the top five MVP Cannon.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
If he wins this game, he is a legit top ten.
He goes from top twelve to fifteen to legit top ten.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Well, assuming he plays well.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Not to judge by that anymore.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, assuming he doesn't he assuming he plays, you know, no,
and you win. But also he's the reason they win
too as well. So yeah, all right, we got Lions
at Bengals. The Lions are ten point favorites. The over
under Zach is forty.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Nine and a half.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Oh jimmy, the Lions.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, they're the best game in the NFC. They may
not be four and oh, but they are the best
team in the NFC right now.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And here's the thing about Detroit too, Like that Packers
game is right forgotten.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Like I think we all assume now that that was
just a hiccup game because when when they when they
play again later in the year, I think we're kind
of expecting them to respond to that first loss because
these ast three games have been what the fuck was that?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Because week one we're like, oh, okay, we need to
see more again.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Obviously it's still a good team, but they come out
and they just booned the door for every team that
played since.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Then, you know what I'm saying, including the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yes, you're so right on that, because it was like
there was so much pressure on those coordinators to keep
up with what had happened the last two years. Yeah,
I feel that's why they were so conservative, and they
saw what happened being conservative, and they just changed their
whole mindset.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
The Bengals are two and two and in my opinion,
my bottom five team in the league because.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
First off, yeah, first off, even with Burrow like look
all that great, they rarely they'll be Cleveland week one
barely okay. And then the Jazz got screwed in there
in there in the second game against them. This will
this all lost that game two big be easy to
sit here and own.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Four now.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Easily.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Wait, you're telling me my jag should be undefeated.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
I got you know that's actually yeah dude, we'll get
that in a second. But yeah, but yeah, Detroit will
blowout and and and the thing is is not about
Burrow for me. Burrow browns like ship, but no one
can block.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
The lines of the lines trash. The Dinus is trash.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
The best bet of the weekend will be Detroit's past
rush having four plus sacks.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, if I can find if I can find that
that that problem, I'm saying that prop definitely so Detroit
when this game in the run away, all right, we
got your boys the Commander's at Chargers. Uh, the Chargers
with three point favorites the over unders forty eight. I'm
assuming it's not low because Jaye Naniels is back this week.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Well, I mean last week he said it was up
to the doctors, Like he was declaring he was healthy,
but the doctors were holding him out. So you lost
last week, you assume, Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
We can't ride back up quarterback this coming.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Week, but.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I'm gonna play it save.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I don't know if ah Ship our defense fucked too.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, I mean we could get blown out and they
could still cover the over.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I'm taking chargers. I'm taking charges here the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I can't be at Homer this week because there's no
confidence and I can't pick an under.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
So yeah, I think Washington, as I told you guys,
Washington will be a little regression, but I think they
will catch at some point later in the year. They
will pile on some wins in the back end. But
it's not right now, give me charges with this game
in the cover, all right, we got sunny game, I
think Sunight game. Yeah, Patriots that bills the Bills at
some point favoritese over under Zach is forty nine and
(33:11):
a half. It's a high number for a Pats game, though, Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, I mean shit, Bills can't put anyone away like
there should be Well, I wouldn't expect forty nine and
a half, but the division over uh you know what,
Vrabel on a Sunday night, give me the under. Forty
nine and a half is way high. It is really
(33:37):
testing in those limits.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Knowingly that Pat's ad kind of frisky, Like I remember,
I want to know people saying I don't. I don't
understand why the eight and a half wins for the year.
Now I'm kind of seeing why. Look, I know they
beat Miami in Carolina, two teams that sucked, but still
probably the only as.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You can competitively say they had a shot at all.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Right, But they also I think they're getting better with
each week, which is good to see. So Bill's win
this game.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
But I'll take the path on the points here. Actually,
I think it would be a close game. A close game,
should I say, Bill don't put teams away? Well, so,
now by Josh Allen, he's great, but the rest of
the team is kind of Josh Allen. There's still Josh.
There's still Josh out reliant to align on Josh Allen.
And the thing is now with teams like the Chiefs,
now who is starting to play better now. There's no
(34:30):
runaway in the AFC right now. I don't think the
Bills are run away when this winness Conference at all,
by no means.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
After week one, I really thought an fs yew Love
and Kele and Coleman was gonna have a breakout season.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
But he hasn't done shit.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
No, not at all, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
And finally Monday game, this is actually a pretty decent
game here, man, Chiefs at Jags. The Chiefs are three
and a half point favorites. The over Undersports have Zach.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Chiefs back.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think they are well.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Trevor Lawrence loves to fuck it up, fuck up a game, So.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Just say they're back half.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
You know what I want?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Chiefs and a half?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Right, three and a half Chiefs. Yeah, on the road.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I'm gonna take the Jags losing by three.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So you're picking the Jags.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Of the point, the Jags to lose by.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, Jack on the points. I got Chiefs here.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
The Jags are on those teams that they should be
four and oh and yet I don't know who they
are yet. The big wing, Serrance's coming wrong, big wing,
It's Niners. But I'm still not fully confident that they're
one of those teams in the AFC, like they're you know, okay?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Are they are?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
They is the same Jackson that we thought that we
were getting two years ago. Are they finally arrived the
new coach?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
A game like this, winning on Monday Football against this
team may actually answer all of those questions for me,
I gotta see more fly buy into that, like the cult,
same thing.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Their defense would be four and oh and that's what
makes me think they have a real shot against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh yeah, they have.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Good corners, but Trevor Lawrence every freaking game, knows how
to throw a game away here and there in every quarter.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yep, yep. And that's what's scary. That's the scary part there.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So I'll take casey I probab wouldn't bet this game,
to be honest to you. So and in fact, if
I bet this game, but the under.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
If I was betting this game, I do personal plays
for receivers on targets.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
This game is a total Yeah, this game is a
total stay away from me. So give me the chiefs
here all right before before we get out of here.
You know we always do it before we close the show.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
This week's FS minute, My god, I got nothing.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And I told you, I said, even though I thought
they win the game, I said, there's something that words
about this game. What what I didn't know at the
time when we were recording last last last week, it
was a Friday game, Friday game.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I thought, it's a Saturday game. That has been a
Saturday day game. I think things have been a little different.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
But Friday night, hostile environment, national television. You know, you
have the Miami game looking ahead of her next week.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
It's it. That's that is the that is the epitome
of trap zach and they got fell into it.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
And see that's the thing. If it was a Saturday
afternoon I would have agreed with you, it's a game.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But a Friday night in front of the national TV audience,
I thought Florida State would shine.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
And really worries me.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
But again I still I just do not believe in Miami.
I do not believe in that coaching staff. But I
shouldn't say that because I don't believe in our coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I think, Mike Norvel, you're.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Back on the fire doorvel Crane, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I've been on that training for what three years? Ye? Yes, yes, literally,
I wanted to get rid of this guy since essentially
his first season. But I'm not ready to give up
on FSU, and I think there will be enough animosity
(38:45):
between the players that Florida State will pull it out.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I hope you're right, man. So right now, the current
numbers on this.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
FSU, Miami is a four point favorite right now, currently
over fifty four to fifty four points.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I under sit again.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
I'll take you over over me too.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
So to your point, though, throw away all the opt
to throw away all the things you may may know.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
You know this is a rivalry game. So if you're
not up for this game, you're an idiot. This is
my favorite rivaly all sports history. It's in Tallahassee. The
one thing that's helping Forest State stay in, stay in
the conversation for national title for the playoff. That Alabama
win looks really good right now, has been phenomenal since
then winning in.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Georgia on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So that winn against Alabama looks really good. So that's
why Forest eight, why they lost Agint Virginia.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
They're not out of it.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
And because of the fact they have a towel team playoff,
there are ways to get in. You win this game
as Miami, you're backing, right, It's like that, you're back
in it.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Done.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So you know how I feel about Kurkkelson's Yeah, I
cannot win a big game. Cannot went on a televised game, right,
you know, when no eyes are on him except for
the home crowd, he wins. That's how I feel about
Carson back.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
He is a guy.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
When there is outside pressure from a TV viewing audience,
he struggles.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
So that is what gives me hope.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Well, I won't make a formal pick on this game
because I I can see case of both ways.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Okay, Florida, stay in the over.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
All, right, fuck it forcing over with you, So I'll
beat your house on Saturday, barring any any Unforesenes me
and my brother. My brother talking shit because he's Yankee
fan and anybody up one offing against the Jet sucks.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, huh.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Bring your swim trunks. Don't get pushed into the pool
for no reason.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Well, the kid's going in the pool. I'm not going
to pool. Oh yeah, is there is there a TV outside?
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Yeah, there will be a TV outside.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Don't work the Trump then cool? Hope doesn't rain.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Yeah, if it rains, No, the TV will not be
outside obviously.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, I'm not bill shipped for that.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, you don't have a covering on what we call Yeah,
I got a covering.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
But we'll see. It'll be a brand new TV.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah. All right, Zach, look what you picked this next
week and I'll see you Saturday later. Good brother,
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our favorite degenerate Zachary.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
What's up, buddy?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Not much man?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
How dro gambling go this weekend?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Dude? I don't I crushed it on college. I had
a nine geamer where.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Only one game.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Talk me, LSU, did you flex it?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
No? I don't believe in that ship.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Okay, you either go hard, go go go, yeah, go
broke and go go home?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Right, go home? Let me know saying this.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
I had a couple of small parlays for the twelve
o'clock and I hit one teaser.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But yeah, to be one game away where I mean
you're kicking a field goal that would have been meaningless.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But that's prettymu store by to of college.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
The last two weeks, like I told you guys on
the show that I stopped betting spreads and I'm starting
I'm just betting money line.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm taking like.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Ten, eleven and twelve teen parlays betting money line only.
And I get like eleven to twelve or nine to
ten and one game doesn't hit.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It sucks a couple of underdogs.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
So that right, it was a five five dollars nine game.
We're paying thirteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
But I I did make money this weekend though. What
happened this weekend I bet two parlays in the NFL.
But what I did, though, is that I made decisions
to early cash out during the parlays, not feeling that
the best going to hit. And I made the right
decision too, because those those bets I did cash out
end up not hitting. So had I not taken early
cash out, I gotten zero.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So the like. For example, I had.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
A parlay with Green Bay covering and winning, and in
the third quarter I had a chance to take up money.
I'm like, I'm not feeling this game, bro, I'm not
feeling this shit.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Let me take my money. I'll take the money.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I lived the other day, and I was right because
they end up tying the game, you know, obviously. I
mean it was one of those things where like this
is why live banks kind of cool. You get a
nice vibe of the game. You know, obviously, gotta make
sure you know what you're doing. But so I did
did win. Want to call that that's a product. But
in the end I end up being correct, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I did a five were a sixth Tember. I
think it was fine in the late afternoon window and
the Sunday night and the Monday night. So no, I
did a sixth tamer. Okay, the only games I got
right were Monday night. I lost the first two on
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the four o'clock games. I lost the Sunday night game,
and it was literally only the two Monday night games.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
It was so no way I lost that.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I lost three four o'clock, I lost the eight o'clock
Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It was terrible on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know what sucks though, on Monday Night football, I
I got gun shy.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I didn't bet at all, and I had I bet
what I wanted to do, I would have wonuse what
I would have done was a fourteen parlay Dolphins to win,
Dolphins the color to cover, and then I would bet
the Bengals to the Bengals. The Bengals so the Broncos
to win, and then the under all four would have hit.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
But I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I was gun shy because I was I didn't have
a vibe of the game like you have the Jets,
who owned three but I've been playing but in the
three losses, who's played better than three games the Jets have?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I told you, I really I knew this was Dolphins
first one of the season.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, I k winning game too. Was I wasn't confident.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
One of the things I saw and I was like
I told a guy at work who he puts me
to shame. He is an absolute degenerate. They I come
into work in the morning, he is trying to put
together bets. I come, I come in at lunchtime. He's
putting together bets. He is constantly on.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But uh, we were going over bets for the Monday
night game and one of them was past attempts for
Justin Fields under twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Ooh do you go under Justin Fields.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
With eight minutes to go in the second quarter? So
an entire full quarter, first quarter and half.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Of the second had one entire past attempt you know
where the total pass attempts for him finished.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
At nine twenty eight twenty seven? Oh fuck me, bro?
They doing?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Bro? How they come up with this ship?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Sometimes insane?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's insane. That is crazy. But again there's a proper
everything though apparently Oh there that's what that's a little
bit of value. And also that the value go ahead.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Sorry, you can adjust the props so you can go
up or down to get money.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
To be honestly, that's what really the value is at
in the props.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You can find the good value in the props, but
you have to be confident they'll hit like the the
one Cowboys and Packers that I actually hit on, but
mostly props.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
J J.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Jacobs a time touchdown, Jordan Love passing yards, Dak Prescott
anytime touchdown, you know, all things of that nature, You
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So I hit those and then when when, then, when
I had the two legs.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Left to do, I had a chance for early cash out,
I took the early cash out and I was right.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So anyway, I won again this week ten games to seven.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, ten to seven, So I'm now up to to
two games against you.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Week five. Here we got a first set of buys here,
four teams on buys this a week.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And at the Falcons, the Bears, the Steelers and the
Packers all on buyers this week. Of the four teams, ZAC,
who needs to buy them in your opinion? Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Probably the after you came out Game Busters week one,
you won game to week two, and since then you've
got a loss and a tie where you should have lost.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So yeah, toy toy, gree on that one wing to
the package all two.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
The Steelers also too, can make a case too, because
even though the three and one, they they haven't really
put together a whole four fourth quarter game yet, I
mean one.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
They're catching breaks too, because now I'm gonna get to
the Braves in a second. Lamar Jackson can be out
two three weeks and then one three the Bengals stink
out loud without Joel Burrow, and then the Browns with Browns.
So the Steelers now insist runway the damn thing, even
not playing well. Yeah, so we'll see how it plays
out in weeks to come. Anyway, Week five, here we go,
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first night game. We have Niners at Rams, Zach. The
Rams are six and a half win favorites over Under.
It's forty seven.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh man, give me the Rams six and a half.
That is far too many points to be given.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Man.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
You have a banged up team like like the forty
nine Ers.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So I can see that. But this is also dig
rivally too, man. I mean this is always these games
will always close no matter what. So I mean I
get the reason why this is. This is this biggest
because of the injuries. To your point, I'm gonna go
over on this one. I'll go over this one. See
something little bit of scoring here, probably the high twenties,
you know, So give me over this one.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
All right, uh, by way, both teams three one. It's
just a big game.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So two weeks in a row, we got two big,
two big NFC West thurs Night games in a row.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
So we'll see, Hey, I need say future, yeah, yeah,
all right, next one we have the I think this
is the nine thirty game on on Sunday Morning, Vikings
at Browns.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
The Vikings are three a half points favorites over under
the stories and gonna half.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Thirty six and a half. That will probably be the
lowest total all season.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, I can see that, so I should be.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Saying just take the over. But you know what, the
Browns have looked good.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
They've had a couple of bad quarters here and there,
but one I don't even know.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Who's gonna play quarterback for for the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, but get give me the Browns. That's mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I can see that. I can see that.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Even even as lows this is, I still love the under.
I think the Browns winn this game, to your point,
because their defense that I think they pulled did they
pull Joey too? Also on top of that, I play
pull Joe block on the fourth quarter. Somed somebody ha
said Dylan Gabel came in the game lately late late.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Again.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I don't think got hurt or whatever, but Dylan Gable
play that in the game against the Detroit.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, I missed the I left the bar at halftime
for most of the first first the one one pm game.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah yeah, you set pictures of you having breakfast with beer.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I know, yeah, no, No, it was just.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Washington was looking like trash and so I didn't feel
like staying staying there. Plus my wife wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
It was okay, just you. I would have joined you,
but I've didn't have plans. What was I doing same morning?
I had to work, That's what I was doing. So but
I'm going to the under. This was like a seventeen
thirteen game here. It really does, it really does, all right?
You got Raiders at Colts, the Colts at some point,
favorites of the Zach your Runders forty eight.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
God, I wish it was six and a half. I
really wish this game was six and a half.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And that then that you don't tease, you like, you'ren't
teasing at all.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Oh I love teases. Okay, I want to tease here.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
What's the total on the points.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, give me the over.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Mm hmmm, I like that number.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Take that back, no scratch that.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Give me the under defense against Raiders, Yeah, give me
the under.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Okay, I'm going Colts here, I think. I look, I
think the Colts, even after losing to LA I'm still
impressed by them. Like I was saying, like this game
was a one of those bets from a game. Okay,
I can't take you fully seriously yet, like you used
tender member had a conversation that the bar.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Two weeks ago about I need to see a game
that made me sell on that.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And now they lost the game, although one can argue
that they lost it because of their own dumb, stupid
ship they did on that game. Game right, So I
actually feel I did a podcast earlier today and I said,
I feel good about the Colts even after the loss.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think he comes out had a gang Busters and wins.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Honestly, the Raiders after the Freak one have been really
mid bad, very good.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, when it's a solid seven, I worry about pushes.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I am, I did too, but I think they'll cover
over touchdow. I think they whinning to blow out. Honestly,
that's that's why I'm confident.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I don't know about blowout.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I I so I could see a twenty eight to
ten game, a twenty eight fourteen game. Yeah, cover the
spread and will stay under.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So right, true? All right? We got Giants at Saints.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
The Saints of two and a half point favorites the
over under Zach, it's forty one.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Get the fuck out. The Saints are a favorite.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, I make sure, but two that points two? That points?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Was the overrunder?
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
The favorite name? Yeah? Make sure? So yeah, yeah, it
opens to pick them, and now they're two that one favorites.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I yet to be.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
No one on your defensive line has gotten heart like
is out?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
No, not out?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
But your past rush isn't isn't affected right now?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
They're all played the last week. I'll played well last week.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Charged, I get the Giants past rush and I get
Jackson Dart plus points.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Give me the fucking Giants. I'm all over this week.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I'm going over in this one. I gotta tell you though.
The Saints have looked very frisky this year. Damn that
Bill's game that scores Ondicative.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
That was a game. They were in that game only
through the middle of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
The Buffalo was sixty point favorites and by the fourth
courter like O, they're not gonna cover this. They're not
gonna cover this, are they? They didn't cover the course
the Saints were that game.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So it is Spencer Radler's last hope for being a
starter in this league.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So yeah, yeah, I thought by way, I thought Dart
looked looked Okay, he just did his job.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
His legs obviously is very effective. A little bit of Daniel.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Jonson a little bit too, but I feel like a
little more, a little more flash though. I'll say this
much too. Also the Giants, and I said in the
podcast or yesterday this the neighbors injury actually saves Dabell's job,
possibly because that's the building excuse now, because the priority
right now is this developing dark If if Dart develops
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to be a solid quarterback, they're gonna write out would
be able to be the year.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Cincinnati is going going through the tubes, right, I mean,
they're probably gonna gonna fire Zach, Zach.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't think Joe Burrow injury is gonna be is
gonna save him again?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Okay, so but let's pretend Cincinnati's coach gets fired available,
do you think they keep Brian Dabell.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Mhm if dark shows promise, yeah, all right, if dark
shows promise, yeah, I think that the priority is dark.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I think they would fire Dabel to bring in the
Cincinnati coach.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
The thing is, if Dave all shows propers at Dart
and Dart strong progress even without neighbors, and you get
names back next year. On top of that, now you
now you have no excuse next year. Now you're gonna
put all together. So that's why they.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Move with this girl girl Odell Beckham situation where there's
pressure to always throw it to the supposed number one.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, but I don't think Neighbors that kind of guy.
I mean, you know, I know he's a little flashyp
I don't think he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So I'm not for his contract that year.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
True, true, But he has a quarterback. Now when I
have the quarterback, Now you finish up to the quarterback.
You need to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna go over one now I
think it'll get it's low enough.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
To I'm I will take the Giants to win out right.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
This is a twenty three to twenty game Giants, So
all right.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
They take the Giants. Man, grow some balls, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
We got Cowboys at Jets.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
The Cowboys to that point favorites the over under Zach
it's forty seven and a half.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh well, obviously it's an over. I mean, you're gonna
bet the over in every single Dallas game going forward.
But one thing I want to touch on real quick ahead.
I really think Jerry Jones won the offseason trades, the
Pickens trade and the Mega Parsons trade. How lucky are
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you to bring in a guy like Pickens and have
Ceedee Lamb go down like that saves your franchise and
saves your quarterback and gives you a possible a one
B option. And then Amiica Parsons, who wants forty seven
million dollars so.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
That he can impact the on defense once maybe twice
in a game.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Again, there's the argument about him being overrated and paying
that kind of money. Again, we're not gonna know for
a couple of years if that trade was successful failure,
you know. And the thing is the Cowboys, it's exactly
trust right now that if Dak wins one more game,
let's say they win that Packer game, instead of tie. Okay,
and then let's say that, uh, let's say that they
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win that game against the Eagles, for example, which they
had a chance to. Dak Is Argaly MVP right now,
his numbers went through.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
The fucking roof.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
If if and if right.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
His numbers are great. I mean, I'm just gonna MP,
but he's his numbers are great right now. Having said that,
I'm with you as well. Two, the over is the
bed here, I mean, the the Cowboys won't be a
playoff team solely because that conference is much better. I mean, so,
all right, we got big game here, Broncos at Eagles. Uh,
the Eagles only three a half point favorites over under
four three and to a half.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Oh, give me the under in this game?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Really easy under this This to me screams seventeen to
thirteen can even be like a sixteen to thirteen with
with basically field goals.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Maybe it is, Maybe it is, but I have Eagles
win this game, not in a blowout, but definitely covering
three up. I felt the Eagles stillett disrespected, even though
they four and oh, and they haven't put together a
still to this even even into the four games of
the year.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
They haven't played a full four quarter game yet. Even
that Bucks game name was blue.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know what I'm saying That Broncos defense is so good.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
They are good, but we are. We are due for
an Eagles complete game at some point. I'm not GUSA
gonna blow out Denver, but I think this is cover.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Three to that points. Give me the Eagles win this game,
all right. We got Dolphins at Panthers.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
The Panthers are one point favorites the over under zac
it's forty four and a half.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Look I like to preseason. Give me the Dolphins none
that it's changed. Yes, the Panthers screwed me one game
this year.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
The Falcons game game all same here.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I got Miami Okay, premium wrong here because obviously Tyreek
Hill out for the year. That hurts, obviously, But Canda
argue that a Massy helped Inno sense Tarrek's got a
distraction at the same time.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I mean, yeah, it could. But on the Tyreek situation,
that's almost like a career ender. His ap what he
does on the field, his gift just got crushed.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, so he plays last games of Dolphin so yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I'm a Miami here. Darren Waller.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
If he can stay healthy, that could be that could
be something to work with Lowris Hardward.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So all right, we got ye, well exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
And by the way, Wattle should be the number one
guy anyway, because Wattle is being paid as such.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
So step up now, Broe.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
At the money that's being given out now, I don't
know if he is what was he?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, he's been paid a such. He's being paid such
at the top.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
So yeah, no excuse, all right Texans at ravens Uh
the text and the twenty point favorites over under Zach
is forty. I don't think I announced Lamar's uh.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
He Lamar is definitely out this week.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, he's They're saying that he's expected to be up
to three weeks. Does have announced him be out yet?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Because I would not bring in Lamar as long as
Ronnie Stanley's out like our Staley's out, Why would Why
would you bring your quarterback who's not one if you
were missing your left tackle blindside. But I want to
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take the under. I just feel like that defense for Houston,
little shut down rush.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, and in fact that because that I'm thinking Houston
with his game out right in the cover, Lamar you
lose Lamar, that's that that's pretty much happier offense, more offense,
and they're banged up on top of that.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know, the question is can Baltimore survive?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Okay, if you're saying two three week let's go on
the front front end two weeks, can they survive two
more games.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Out Lamar Jackson and save the year?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I say yes for one reason because if Lamar's healthy
when it gets back and say three weeks to make
its back, the AFC is so weak anyway around in
the wild card that I see a scenario where an
eight eighteen gets in the playoffs, and I think this
team can still win ten games when it gets back,
because Lamar is that fucking good. Obviously, the margin is
smaller now because you know, I get a game, but
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I think they're cable doing that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Do you think the division's out of question at this point?
I think Steelers in a lock now from the division.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
It feels that way because but I mean the think
with the Steelers that the Steelers have a level upside
that that's a scary thing.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
The three and one not playing well, But can it
get better? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Can Rodgers get better? By by by by November. Yeah,
you know, and can Demons get better? Yeah, So that's
the scary part. If the Steers don't just send and
so the quality play, then yeah, I'll say it one way.
But because they've they played so close to the cuff
and they have a couple of losses in the column,
(22:26):
I'm not gonna go through this yet because remember last
year too, I think they had big leader as well,
and then they blew the Leeds.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Well, So I mean and I feel like the Ravens'
toughest part of their schedule was early. Okay, all of
their tough teams were early.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
So if you think an.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Eight to nine game can still make the playoffs, then
and then I'll miss you there are season is.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Not over, I'll tell you right now. So their next
three games soon, that's some of the more miss next
three games Texans, Rams, Bears.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Can you get one? Can you get one win on
that one win?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
After their by What is their schedule after.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
The So the bye week is the Ram after the
Rams game is a bye week. And then so if
there's two three weeks, that means he could be back
for the Bears game, since manly two games probably gonna
be missing at most can they say two three games.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
The weeks.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
If if if the bye week? Wait, the bye week
is before the Bears game? Yeah, yeah, okay, so it
goes Bears and then.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
What Bears bye week?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
No, no, after the Bears, Dolphins on the road, Vikings
on the road, Browns on the road, Jets, Bengals without
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Still so it does get it?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Does?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
It's off the top?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, they definitely have hope.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
The question is can you can they take one of
these two games coming up Texans and this this game
is huge if they can steal this game, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, I don't know if that Yeah, this game, I
feel like they have a five week stretch where they
can right the ship.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think you know what, honestly,
I think they will. Now what is the number one
see other question? Yes, probably the top two seeds. The
question is the division of the question, that's that's up
to the to the Steelers asked that question first. If
the Steelers played found the ball and then he beats
Toears twice, that teams everything in there.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
So I'm not ready to run him off the yet.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
In fact, I will still call the Ravens even at
one of three and without lower the nextW weeks a
suill contender, so.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So so much Lamark's back in three weeks. So yeah,
it is my.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Whole opinion after this because I was ready to write
them off for the season. I didn't even think they
could make the playoffs. But I hadn't liked as a
schedule and now go over it. Yeah, they should win
after Lamar gets back.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
If Lamar's come back that beers game, they should win
every game for the next month.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Okay, So even if you lose a couple of games here,
that put him with five and four, six and four.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay's weak playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Week two on top of that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
So yeah, I said, all right, Titans at Cardinals. Uh,
the Cardinals act are seven point favorites. Over under is
forty one and a half.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Oh, I really thought Titans had a shot this past week.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
They were in the game until there was six nothing
for a good, good chuck of the game, and then
they just let it go.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah, well I.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Never should have. I gotta get rid of this Chris
voice in my head about camp Ward. Like I knew
cam Ward wasn't the guy. He's not a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
To win.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I don't think he's the problem is it's a bad team.
It's a bad team.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, the block they they stripped that team down. So
watch so you know what, give me Arizona.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I'll be bro I'll be honest to you. They won't
win this game. I'm taking tencent to points.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I don't trust I was going to cover seven points.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I think all the sure going on with the coaching
and pissed off and Cam's comments after the game, I
think honestly that I think he'll I think they'll they'll
play better, and I think he'll be in the game.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Give me tennessee the points here plus seven.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
You screw me when I finally bet on you? Fuck you.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Whould have thought this might be the game of the week.
Who would have thought this one? Buccaneers at Seahawks the Seahawks.
If you half pint favorites the over under Zach, it's
forty four and a half.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
All right, before we say anything, Okay, the new red
Rifle Sam Donald halluyah red man.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So to sut to all the genders out there like yourself.
Yes he's pretty what I text you, he's the new
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Now he's not the top quarter record league, but he's
definitely serviceable. He's definitely a guy can make a Pro Bowl.
He's definitely a guy that gets gets the playoff.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Twelve quarterback is honestly quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Honestly, yes, base the last two years, yes, yes, Now.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Two games for two games against two of the best
teams in the league.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Now pretty when when your playoff game, that's the question.
But he gets you the playoffs absolutely, YEA last year.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Out of his mind. And so you know what, I'm
ryding with Sam Donald. Now I'm running.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I'm ride with the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You see one is the game?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yes, wow, I'm taking you over in this one Tampa.
You know it's funny like the Colts and AFC. Even
though he lost in Philadelphia, they showed me something. I mean,
they're all banged up, lines banged up, and Evans is
out and all these guys are out and they were
still in that game.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
The Bucks are gonna be once once the Bucks went.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Full full strength, they're gonna be scary because big and
I feels the top in the quarterback and now and
now with Borough being gone and all this stuff, he's
now a snug top ten guy. Now now he scares
teams now in the fourth quarter. So I'll go I'm
gonna go to the over this game though it's in Seattle.
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But if they could pull this game off in Seattle
in that in that environment, and I guess against a.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Team that I'm still not sure if they're this good,
but the three and one I have course my Seattle.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Still this is the most from Seattle too, because like again,
if we believe the NC is as good as it is,
they got stuggame wins on on the front of now.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Because if these teams ahead of.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Them are gonna be are who they are and you
think they are going forward, they they have to find
a way to you know, win ten plus games who
went to in the playoffs. So these games are gonna
matter in the end. So this is actually kind of
sneaky musk game must win for Seattle. Haven't said all
that give me you over in this one?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, I told you.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Last year Sam Donald was the top five MVP Cannon.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
If he wins this game, he is a legit top ten.
He goes from top twelve to fifteen to legit top ten.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Well, assuming he plays well.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Not to judge by that anymore.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, assuming he doesn't he assuming he plays, you know, no,
and you win. But also he's the reason they win
too as well. So yeah, all right, we got Lions
at Bengals. The Lions are ten point favorites. The over
under Zach is forty.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Nine and a half.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Oh jimmy, the Lions.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Yeah, they're the best game in the NFC. They may
not be four and oh, but they are the best
team in the NFC right now.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And here's the thing about Detroit too, Like that Packers
game is right forgotten.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Like I think we all assume now that that was
just a hiccup game because when when they when they
play again later in the year, I think we're kind
of expecting them to respond to that first loss because
these ast three games have been what the fuck was that?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Because week one we're like, oh, okay, we need to
see more again.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Obviously it's still a good team, but they come out
and they just booned the door for every team that
played since.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Then, you know what I'm saying, including the Ravens.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yes, you're so right on that, because it was like
there was so much pressure on those coordinators to keep
up with what had happened the last two years. Yeah,
I feel that's why they were so conservative, and they
saw what happened being conservative, and they just changed their
whole mindset.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
The Bengals are two and two and in my opinion,
my bottom five team in the league because.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
First off, yeah, first off, even with Burrow like look
all that great, they rarely they'll be Cleveland week one
barely okay. And then the Jazz got screwed in there
in there in the second game against them. This will
this all lost that game two big be easy to
sit here and own.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Four now.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Easily.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Wait, you're telling me my jag should be undefeated.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
I got you know that's actually yeah dude, we'll get
that in a second. But yeah, but yeah, Detroit will
blowout and and and the thing is is not about
Burrow for me. Burrow browns like ship, but no one
can block.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
The lines of the lines trash. The Dinus is trash.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
The best bet of the weekend will be Detroit's past
rush having four plus sacks.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, if I can find if I can find that
that that problem, I'm saying that prop definitely so Detroit
when this game in the run away, all right, we
got your boys the Commander's at Chargers. Uh, the Chargers
with three point favorites the over unders forty eight. I'm
assuming it's not low because Jaye Naniels is back this week.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Well, I mean last week he said it was up
to the doctors, Like he was declaring he was healthy,
but the doctors were holding him out. So you lost
last week, you assume, Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
We can't ride back up quarterback this coming.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Week, but.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I'm gonna play it save.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I don't know if ah Ship our defense fucked too.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, I mean we could get blown out and they
could still cover the over.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I'm taking chargers. I'm taking charges here the Chargers.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I can't be at Homer this week because there's no
confidence and I can't pick an under.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
So yeah, I think Washington, as I told you guys,
Washington will be a little regression, but I think they
will catch at some point later in the year. They
will pile on some wins in the back end. But
it's not right now, give me charges with this game
in the cover, all right, we got sunny game, I
think Sunight game. Yeah, Patriots that bills the Bills at
some point favoritese over under Zach is forty nine and
(33:11):
a half. It's a high number for a Pats game, though, Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, I mean shit, Bills can't put anyone away like
there should be Well, I wouldn't expect forty nine and
a half, but the division over uh you know what,
Vrabel on a Sunday night, give me the under. Forty
nine and a half is way high. It is really
(33:37):
testing in those limits.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Knowingly that Pat's ad kind of frisky, Like I remember,
I want to know people saying I don't. I don't
understand why the eight and a half wins for the year.
Now I'm kind of seeing why. Look, I know they
beat Miami in Carolina, two teams that sucked, but still
probably the only as.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You can competitively say they had a shot at all.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Right, But they also I think they're getting better with
each week, which is good to see. So Bill's win
this game.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
But I'll take the path on the points here. Actually,
I think it would be a close game. A close game,
should I say, Bill don't put teams away? Well, so,
now by Josh Allen, he's great, but the rest of
the team is kind of Josh Allen. There's still Josh.
There's still Josh out reliant to align on Josh Allen.
And the thing is now with teams like the Chiefs,
now who is starting to play better now. There's no
(34:30):
runaway in the AFC right now. I don't think the
Bills are run away when this winness Conference at all,
by no means.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
After week one, I really thought an fs yew Love
and Kele and Coleman was gonna have a breakout season.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
But he hasn't done shit.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
No, not at all, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
And finally Monday game, this is actually a pretty decent
game here, man, Chiefs at Jags. The Chiefs are three
and a half point favorites. The over Undersports have Zach.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Chiefs back.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think they are well.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Trevor Lawrence loves to fuck it up, fuck up a game, So.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Just say they're back half.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
You know what I want?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Chiefs and a half?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Right, three and a half Chiefs. Yeah, on the road.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I'm gonna take the Jags losing by three.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
So you're picking the Jags.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Of the point, the Jags to lose by.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, Jack on the points. I got Chiefs here.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
The Jags are on those teams that they should be
four and oh and yet I don't know who they
are yet. The big wing, Serrance's coming wrong, big wing,
It's Niners. But I'm still not fully confident that they're
one of those teams in the AFC, like they're you know, okay?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Are they are?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
They is the same Jackson that we thought that we
were getting two years ago. Are they finally arrived the
new coach?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
A game like this, winning on Monday Football against this
team may actually answer all of those questions for me,
I gotta see more fly buy into that, like the cult,
same thing.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Their defense would be four and oh and that's what
makes me think they have a real shot against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh yeah, they have.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Good corners, but Trevor Lawrence every freaking game, knows how
to throw a game away here and there in every quarter.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yep, yep. And that's what's scary. That's the scary part there.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So I'll take casey I probab wouldn't bet this game,
to be honest to you. So and in fact, if
I bet this game, but the under.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
If I was betting this game, I do personal plays
for receivers on targets.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
This game is a total Yeah, this game is a
total stay away from me. So give me the chiefs
here all right before before we get out of here.
You know we always do it before we close the show.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
This week's FS minute, My god, I got nothing.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And I told you, I said, even though I thought
they win the game, I said, there's something that words
about this game. What what I didn't know at the
time when we were recording last last last week, it
was a Friday game, Friday game.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I thought, it's a Saturday game. That has been a
Saturday day game. I think things have been a little different.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
But Friday night, hostile environment, national television. You know, you
have the Miami game looking ahead of her next week.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
It's it. That's that is the that is the epitome
of trap zach and they got fell into it.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
And see that's the thing. If it was a Saturday
afternoon I would have agreed with you, it's a game.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
But a Friday night in front of the national TV audience,
I thought Florida State would shine.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
And really worries me.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
But again I still I just do not believe in Miami.
I do not believe in that coaching staff. But I
shouldn't say that because I don't believe in our coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I think, Mike Norvel, you're.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Back on the fire doorvel Crane, aren't you.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I've been on that training for what three years? Ye? Yes, yes, literally,
I wanted to get rid of this guy since essentially
his first season. But I'm not ready to give up
on FSU, and I think there will be enough animosity
(38:45):
between the players that Florida State will pull it out.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I hope you're right, man. So right now, the current
numbers on this.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
FSU, Miami is a four point favorite right now, currently
over fifty four to fifty four points.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I under sit again.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
I'll take you over over me too.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
So to your point, though, throw away all the opt
to throw away all the things you may may know.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
You know this is a rivalry game. So if you're
not up for this game, you're an idiot. This is
my favorite rivaly all sports history. It's in Tallahassee. The
one thing that's helping Forest State stay in, stay in
the conversation for national title for the playoff. That Alabama
win looks really good right now, has been phenomenal since
then winning in.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Georgia on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So that winn against Alabama looks really good. So that's
why Forest eight, why they lost Agint Virginia.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
They're not out of it.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
And because of the fact they have a towel team playoff,
there are ways to get in. You win this game
as Miami, you're backing, right, It's like that, you're back
in it.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Done.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So you know how I feel about Kurkkelson's Yeah, I
cannot win a big game. Cannot went on a televised game, right,
you know, when no eyes are on him except for
the home crowd, he wins. That's how I feel about
Carson back.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
He is a guy.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
When there is outside pressure from a TV viewing audience,
he struggles.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
So that is what gives me hope.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Well, I won't make a formal pick on this game
because I I can see case of both ways.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
Okay, Florida, stay in the over.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
All, right, fuck it forcing over with you, So I'll
beat your house on Saturday, barring any any Unforesenes me
and my brother. My brother talking shit because he's Yankee
fan and anybody up one offing against the Jet sucks.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, huh.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Bring your swim trunks. Don't get pushed into the pool
for no reason.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Well, the kid's going in the pool. I'm not going
to pool. Oh yeah, is there is there a TV outside?
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Yeah, there will be a TV outside.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Don't work the Trump then cool? Hope doesn't rain.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Yeah, if it rains, No, the TV will not be
outside obviously.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, I'm not bill shipped for that.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, you don't have a covering on what we call Yeah,
I got a covering.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
But we'll see. It'll be a brand new TV.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Yeah. All right, Zach, look what you picked this next
week and I'll see you Saturday later. Good brother,
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