James 'Big Jim' Nies

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Eat like a tiness. Grief Podcasts recording this late Monday night,
December seventeen, twenty twenty five, Day four, also of Honkkah,
joined a course by look what is this big gym?
James Lee's appo. It looking like little gym now from

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an out brother.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I've as of this past Monday, I'm down wait,
it's like fifty four pounds in holy shit. Really yeah,
since since April, may have fifty four pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
And what you're doing is consistent. We we came in
a podcast whole week ago you said that you're you're walking,
eating better, but you're not doing the extremely just inconsistent.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, building living, building, tracking calories Lose It app. I
recommend that to everybody. You set a goal in the
app and it just you just track as you as
you eat throughout the day. And that's that's honestly my
biggest advice because if you do it. My wife actually
does ahead of time like Schultz, Like if she knows
what she's having for breakfast or lunch or whatever, she
puts it in ahead of time so she knows exactly

(02:07):
what she can have. I do it kind of as
I go, and I think that's the key, because you
do it like while you eat breakfast, you put it in,
Lunch you put it in, and then like while you know,
when you get to dinner, and then it's like, you know,
maybe I have like three hundred calories to my limit
left or eight hundred or twenty, you know, can kind
of decide what you do after dinner if you do

(02:28):
anything obviously as the exercise, like I have Apple Watch,
so whenever, whenever we go for walks and stuff, it
will adjust the cat It sinks with the app, so
you know if I if I walk for two miles,
it will take that into account, so you know, a
lot yourself, a little extra calories. So it's it's it's
I'm not doing anything anything tricky. I'm not doing There's nothing,

(02:50):
there's no secrets, there's no magic. It's it's literally just consistency.
I was telling you before we came on a couple
of weeks ago Thanksgiving weekend, I've fucked up my sciatica
pretty pretty bad. Actually went to like an urgent care
and today was the first time I've I've done any
sort of exercise, like two and a half weeks. Haven't

(03:11):
gained any weight, which was very very happy about in
the last couple of weeks, despite eating cookies and stuff
like that. But I've been eating at a calorie deficit
for for you know, the better part of eight or
nine months, so kind of have a built in built
in ability to do that a little bit.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
But I am it sounds weird.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
As much as I love all the holiday traits and
all that stuff. I'm looking forward to post Christmas when
I can get back to something a little bit more normal.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
You are somewhat indulging to some degree, like somewhat yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
And I kind of told myself that going into the
holiday season because I love Thanksgiving dinner and pumpkin pie
and turkey and stuffing and all that, and I love
Christmas food peppermints and candies and chocolates and cookies and
all that kind of stuff. So I said, look, I'm
not I'm not going to stop myself from meeting it,

(04:07):
but I'm going to kind of control myself. So and
it's sad to almost admit this, but like last year,
like if I because I my wife and I both
work from home, right and oh yeah she does do yeah, Okay,
she has an office upstairs. I have an office in
our basement, and so like if I go upstairs to

(04:27):
go to the bathroom or grab a drink or something
like that. Literally every time I walked into the kitchen
last year, I would grab like two cookies or three cookies.
Like this year, I kind of reserved that too, Like
I might have one at lunch time, depending on what
I eat at lunch or I save that for because
I do the twenty five Days of Christmas where I

(04:47):
watch a different Christmas movie or show or something every
day starting December first, I will kind of save my
treats until we sit down and watch a movie or whatever.
So it's just it really is just kind of being aware, mindful,
and being selective about when and what you do.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
You're not doing any kind of fasting, are you like
any sort of fasting at all? Not really?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I mean I try to not typically not eat anything
past like nine a nine pm, and then I have
breakfast at around eight am the next day, So like,
I don't I'm not specifically like doing any sort of
eighteen hour fasting or anything like that, but I try

(05:33):
to just also for you know, to avoid any like
acid reflux or just you don't need calories that late
in the day. I just I try to not really
eat much past like nine pm generally. Oh that makes sense,
that makes sense. Hey, hell up, turn to the gym

(05:53):
and chancho.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Now, I mean has been I mean I've been on there,
you know, more thanybody else outside YouTube this season, But
it's been too much, Sean and you just hold the
fourth down, bro.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, it's it's so that. That's kind of the funny
thing about the sports show is I've been doing that
for thirteen years now, off and on. And originally the
idea was because he and I we look similar, we
sound similar, and besides Notre Dame, we don't really like
the same teams, right, Like he's a Wires Eagles Phillies fan,

(06:34):
I'm a Orioles Cowboys Capitals fan. So the idea of
two guys that look and sound alike, that are brothers,
legit brothers, and but pretty much hate each other's teams,
it's kind of an interesting idea. But his schedule, I,
you know, I worked a nine to five job. He
worked like retail and service jobs, so he would work

(06:58):
till late at night. We could never we could never
like get anything to work schedule wise. And so that's
when I just I started working with friends. I ended
up meeting you and Kyle and Mike and and and
and all of that, and it kind of expanded beyond
beyond Pennsylvania and last year. Last year, at times it

(07:19):
was almost too many people. There was six seven people
on the panel sometimes and it got it got chaotic,
and it got the shows got long and and and
this year, you know, Kyle's doing a lot of a
lot of his own, his own things with the Chargers
podcast and the Jaguars podcast and and all of that stuff,
and I'm loving what he's doing. Mike has a has

(07:40):
a new work schedule, so he's added a new uh
feature uh late week on his own on the show.
You know you have yours recording schedules. Matt has a
busier kind of work and home life, so the only
consistent has has really kind of been sewn. He's been
able to carve out that time. His kids are a

(08:01):
little bit older now, so they kind of get the bedtimer.
I know that feeling because he has two kids. I
have two kids, and I've noticed my if you noticed
in my was Paula's podcast in fifteen years and my
journey from you know, being getting married and to become
a parent, and you know, and then that, you know,
the time schedule where I couldn't record if I wanted to.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
And then as they get older, you start to open
a little bit of time here and there, and I
got more opportuit to record, and now I can pretty
much record I want pretty much. Yeah, yeah, even there
in the house, I can record a show.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, so yeah, so it's it's it's been a lot
of fun to, uh, to get to talk to him
on a weekly basis. Obviously, I love when you can
pop in and Kyle's surprised us a couple of weeks,
and Mike's popped in from time to time from work.
So yeah, but it's it's been a lot of fun
getting a chance to just kind of shoot the ship
with him every week.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's cool, that's really cool. Hey, you're you're are your
colors really really gonna fuck me? I need I need
nine wins.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
So basically they have to win out right, Chargers Commanders.
Who here's the thing. If they get past this week,
I think you'll be okay. Even with as as sideways
as this season has gone at times for the Cowboys,
I don't see them losing to the Commanders of the
Giants right now. The Chargers are the tough one. Is

(09:23):
the Chargers still very much alive. You know, they're in
the five seed, but they're.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Still their team. Yeah, they're still.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
But they're they're still in the hunt for that Western
Division title and and they're gonna kind of bring everything
they have on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I think two back though, of the Broncos. They have
ten wins, all right, Chargers, that's right, Well the game
to go, Yeah, they have ten wins and they got
one game because the Broncos coming up, I think I
think Week seventeen, a week eighteen.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, they're ten and four. Broncos are are are two.
But now that the tricky thing is is the Chargers
already have the win against them earlier in the year.
Chargers are actually undefeated in that division by the way,
So yeah, Broncos have Jags, Chiefs and Chargers. Chargers have Cowboys, Texans, Broncos,

(10:17):
so it's not out of the question. I think we'll
know a lot more this week, especially if Denver gets
the win over Jacksonville. It's it's gonna be a much
harder road for the because you're gonna expect a Mahmes
list Chiefs team to beat the Broncos. I don't know
if that's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Would you call Dallas the season to this woman this year?
I'm I'm kind of both.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Its complicated, it's it's it's complicated. I think the thing
that is disappointing is the defensive side of the ball
like that. That's the part that I think when you
when you look at this Cowboys team, you know, they
they've they've scored, They've scored over four hundred points. They

(11:05):
have the fourth highest scoring offense. The problem is they
have the second worst scoring defense. So it's like, that's
the frustrating part because you have a new head coach
and and I had I really had no expectations for
Brian Schottenheimer and and what this first year was going
to be. I think I predicted them to finish six

(11:25):
and eleven. I was really kind of down on this team.
And then you know, they they came out of the
gate and they almost they almost beat Philly. Then they
got blown out by the Chicago which at the time
seemed like an awful loss. Uh, come to learn those
actually a pretty good loss. And and and they they've

(11:48):
they've surprised it at some points good and they've surprised
at some points bad. You know that that two game
stretch where they beat Philly in Kansas City in a
four day period, UH, looked really goods win looks less
impressive now. But I think I think when you when
you look back the there's gonna be there's gonna be

(12:09):
two losses that are probably gonna haunt this team a lot,
and that's going to be the past week against Minnesota,
but the Monday night game against Arizona like a month ago.
Because otherwise your losses were kind of fine, even the
Carolina loss. I mean, the Caroline is not great, but

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they're almost that they could be leading the South by
the time we're out of this week. Yeah, and and
they're they're still alive in the South. You lost to
the Broncos, you lost to the Eagles, You lost to
the Lions, who are on that border line, to a
playoff team, h Bears. You tied to the Packers. Like

(12:50):
there's games where it's like, man, if you just would
have had a defense, you'd be okay. But that that
lost to the Cardinals. I turned it off in the
first quarter, like like I tell me that text you like,
that's off.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
I'm done.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, dude, we we We went to a movie. Our
local movie theater does like these mystery mondays where you
pay five dollars. Yeah, you pay five dollars. You have
no idea what the movie is. It's a movie, an
upcoming movie, but you have no clue what it is
until they air it. So my wife and I we
went out to the movie. I come home and it

(13:23):
was right after the game started. Cowboys, I think, had
not done anything on their first two drives, Cardinals had
gone up ten nothing. And I looked at my wife
and I was like, if the Cowboys don't score on
this drive, I'm turning it off. And literally two plays later,
Jeff Ferguson puts the ball on the ground. The Cardinals
are covered, and.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I urged it off.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
They didn't look back, and and it was just like
because it's it's not like that. That sort of game
is just it's not forgivable, Like that's not forgivable. I
can forgive a loss to the Lions. I can forgive
a loss to the to the to the Bears or
the Broncos. But when when you you finally kind of
have some positive momentum and you you you blow it
that bad same thing with this Minnesota game, like this

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this past week, like the you win against the Eagles
and Chiefs in a four day span, you have a
regular week off. You you lose in kind of an
embarrassing way to Detroit, but it's like you you kind
of still have your fate in your hands a little bit.
You know, you kind of just need to win out.
You have a bad Vikings team, you've already been eliminated

(14:27):
from the playoffs. I get they have a good defense,
but their offense isn't good. And you go out and
JJ McCarthy looks like he's back in the fucking Rose Bowl,
lighting up Alabama and lighting up Washington for the National Championship,
and he's doing the freaking he's doing the freaking gritty
at the three yard line, Like, come on, man. But honestly,

(14:53):
I've always said this about my sports teams is if
it's a if it's a game seven, an elimination game,
a playoff game, if you're gonna lose, don't give me hope, right,
don't give me hope. Don't string me along and rip
my soul out at the end. So I, at the
very least I appreciated the Cowboys when I when I

(15:14):
sat on Thanksgiving night after we beat the Chiefs, and
I looked at my wife and I was like, look like,
this team kind of feels fun and maybe they have
a shot at making the postseason. And over the next
two games, they just ripped the band aid off and said, uh,
not so fast, my friend.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
We're gonna go.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
We're gonna go quiet, We're gonna go quickly into the night.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
And that's what they did.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
So they didn't string me out till week eighteen to
crush my soul. Well, you already know I'm a Cowboy
fan for self of reasons.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I have bet with a good friend of mine who
happened to be a Cowboys fan himself, but he had
doubts about them being this being good at all. He's
been one of one of the most stypical comedy friends
I know. And we had heard all bet that they
would win nine games. I said, go over that. He said, under,
So I need to win out pretty much. So I
you know I I you know. I'm a fan of Wallet,

(16:07):
so I'll root the teams I hate just to make
sure my wallets stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Oh dude, Yeah, I'm a thousand percent. I'm a thousand
percent a a root for Wallet guy. Like every year
I've played fantasy football, Like I have friends that are
Eagles fans that won't draft Cowboys players or what I'm like,
are you fucking I'm here to make money?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Like yes, if A J.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Brown is there and he's the best receiver available, I
take him. If you know, if if Jayden Daniels is
the best quarterback available, when I'm drafting a quarterback, I'm
gonna take him.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
I don't give a shit.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Who's the team or whatever. Like the Cowboys have never
made me money. They've brought me paying and I've paid
money to buy their merch, Like this is the money.
And if I'm playing fantasy football, I'm in it to
make money. I don't care who the player is.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
If you don't think I don't beneg As the Giants, yeah,
your fucking mind, because I do. They'll if I know
this a game they're gonna lose, and I gonna make
money on that game. I'm gonna take it. If they win,
benefit me won the game they lose. Hey, I made money.
Come on now, exactly, Chief Dynasty. Uh, it's I mean
I should have asked something to end. It is at

(17:11):
an end right now. These this this part of it,
this bootmark of it now. But my thoughts were this,
you know, on Sunday, Okay, so we knew that no
matter what happens, miss playoffs, you know, knock out early whatever,
they were going to retool this tem no matter what
that was, that was the obvious plan. But I think
the Mahomes injury changed that plan to now. I think

(17:36):
this this is not an excuse for Chiefs to go
for well rebuild. You know, they have a lot of
things they got to work on a cap. You have
guys on a roster that are getting older. Travis Kelcey,
while still pretty good, is older. He may not want
to be around for a rebuild. Chris Jones maybe may
may not be long for this world in case. I
compared to the Boston Celtics situation with the with Jason

(17:58):
Tatum whing. I heard like in the playoffs they were
never gonna cut their roster if they won a championship,
but you know, him getting hurt and him being not
for the entire season with the same injury for the record,
gave him an excuse to start gutting the roster. And
I think we are here with the Chiefs. I think
this is I think this is actually a good thing

(18:20):
for the team going forward because the signs of this
were coming even And it's weird because even during the
Super Bowl run, the two back to backs, there were
signs of this thunder strip strip down to the heels
a little bit, little little by, a little by, little
by wonna come easy, you know what I mean. They
were gonna help with the referees and stuff. And then
obviously the lost of Philadelphia in the Super Bowl last year,

(18:41):
you know, it was a big, a big sign. But
I think bigger pictures is good for the Chiefs. Now
having said that, here's the thing. People compare this to
the Patriots of the you know, the two thousands and
the odds and when when ten years wout winning the
Super Bowl. The difference is the Patriots in those ten
years stolen too super Bowls, And we're always in the

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conversation it was that they dropped off and rebuild and
all this stuff. They we told it, yes, but they
were still they were still in the final four almost
every year. On the as Style interview, I just lost
the you know who it was, the Ravens or whatever
may be, Chiefs missed the playoffs all entirely, the big,
big downer, and that I like, I like the Pats

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who have Bill Belichick in a continuity there. We don't
know what anybody's gonna do beyond this year. Like I'm
not saying the speculation, but there's a chance that he
may retire. Who knows.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, I mean big big big Man's sixty seven ivery
sixty eight in March. Yeah, and yeah, you don't know.
It's it's it's gonna be a really interesting offseason because
if you listen, it depends who you listen to. Mahomes
is either gonna be ready for Week one or two
or he may not be ready, truly ready until twenty
twenty seven, right, And and that's kind of the great

(19:56):
mystery because we found out he's already had surgery torn
ACL and LCL, so there was more damage to the
knee than kind of was originally thought. And you know,
I know people have talked about, well, you know Brady, Uh,
you know, Brady had the same injury at the same
time of his career.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Brady. Brady's also not a mobile guy, so Brady and
Brady hurt his knee in Week one.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Well that too, But I mean, I just mean in
terms of recovery and who he's going to be post injury,
Like Tom Brady, whether he tore his ACL or not,
He's he's going to be a live in the pocket,
die by the pocket kind of more traditional quarterback. Patrick Mahomes.
He'll be thirty one by the time that the season begins. Uh,
you now have a repaired knee, which I understand this

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injury is much less career threatening than it used to
be because of modern medicine and everything. But you know,
Mahomes has been kind of a miracle man and he's
been the guy that's been you know, we we jokingly
have kind of referred to him as Gumby at times,
like he he just he's almost seems superhuman. Has had

(21:04):
recoveries from like high ankle sprains in like six days.
Like the guy has been kind of a freak. But
you know, not that thirty or thirty one is old,
so to speak, but it's also not twenty five, you know.
So that's something that's gonna be kind of to tells
is as he begins to rehab and work on getting back.

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As you get closer to draft season, I think you're
going to start to see what this team, what the
makeup of this team is going to be next year,
because by draft time, they're going to have an idea
of how his rehab and everything's coming along, and if
it's not coming along the way they think it should

(21:45):
be or to be optimistic for a like early part
of the season next year. I think you see Chris
Jones get moved. I think there's a possibility that Travis
Kelcey might retire or maybe request to be moved as well.
I kind of be shocked at this point to see
him go somewhere else. I could I but I could
also see like a Gronk type of thing where he

(22:05):
retires and then ends up somewhere, you.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Know, mid to late season, or I can see him
come back. That's depending on where the timetable is with
Mahomes injury, because if you do the bath, it's a
math question at this point. Now, so we're in December,
there's a nine twelve injury. A lot of speaking the
early to come back in October or whatever.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Speaking see see where Pat's at in November, See where
the team's at in November, and if they're second or
first in the division. Kelsey comes back for the for
the for the run, which right, which may in the
long run be better for him. He's not he's not
young anymore. A little fresher arms and legs going going
into the late part of the season of playoff push

(22:46):
maybe beneficial for him. But yeah, I think we'll know
a lot more about where where the Chiefs are at
come come draft season, because if they start to move
some big pieces that that's gonna say to me, not
gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Homes be ready next year. But the thing is too,
I can see a world of a Chiefs to say, hey, Pat,
stay out, don't play that year possibly and that you know,
I see Kells retiring and then on retiring and come back.
Well you're after I can see that.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Give it a year, you know, go go get married
and enjoy your early first year of married life and
come back the.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Podcast brother and then come back when you feel ready, grounded,
grounded it and as a result, but.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
The dynasty's over. Yeah, this is the end of the dynasty.
I'm not I'm not, unfortunately, I'm because I'm not a
I'm not a Chiefs fan like you.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
But I don't think.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I don't think we've seen the last of Mahomes in
company as a as a contender. But also I do think,
uh that that that Andy Reid is another big question
mark how much does he want to you know, the
the win totals how because I mean, let's be fair,
he has already cemented his places as one of the

(24:06):
best coaches of all time. He is a first ballot
Hall of Famer and all of that, so that none
of that's in question. It's just a matter of what
he wants to do with his time at this point
in his career.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Well, I'll play little sports radio here now, and I'm
glad you mentioned the contender thing. Let's taken a step further.
If you got to put money right now, does Pemhols
win one more football? Look at the landscape of the NFL,
looking at the LANs, look at the chiefs of the situation.
Would you say he gets one more if he retires.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I think he'll get one one more before he retires.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Yeah, okay, okay, interesting, Okay, we'll see. I mean I
have I think it's likely, but I also see a
scenario what doesn't happen, because he'll certainly possible.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
But I mean again, he's he's he'll be thirty one
next year. If he doesn't play at all in twenty
twenty six, he'll be thirty two by the time he
takes the field again. That that's that that is still
young in in today's world. Like like, I mean, you
know what Dak Prescott's thirty six No.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Three two three.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Oh yeah, he's thirty two. Yeah, he's playing and he's
playing the best football in his career. He'll be He'll
be thirty three next year, so like Mahomes will be,
you know, at the same point in twenty twenty seven.
So there's still plenty of time in front of him.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
The Chiefs I think are a franchise that now they
they know what it takes to win the AFC at
least this year. And again, things can change very quickly.
But the AFC is wide open. It really is wide open.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Denver Is is the best of the bunch. People need
to start putting respect on him.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
But I after this week, I did like, what what
what I was missing with Denver was I need to
see a full bow Knicks game And I finally got
back in screen back.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, and and so people better start putting respect on them.
But but outside of that, I mean, New England's very good,
but they they got over confident and they got caught
this past week. Jacksonville's hot, Houston's hot, the Chargers are hot. Uh,
they they just keep finding ways to win, you know.

(26:21):
Sad the wild thing is the a f C North
looks like, uh, you know, kind of the weakest of
the bunch.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
The Steelers are winning by default. But but I know
nobody in that division scares people.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Who who would have thought that the division has been
probably the best in the last ten to fifteen years partistlently, Yeah,
could be the worst in the Lagua now, yeah, it's
it's it's not great.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
I think the NFC South still has that which is
still but they're at least the worst in the a
f C. I mean, the Browns are just a dumpster
fire Cincinnati. I mean, the injury troubles are are problematic,
and you know the Burrow stuff, Burrows saying some cryptic things.
I think, dude, I'm sorry. I think he's done it

(27:07):
for the next year. I think he's incause of trade.
I think if the Bengals don't at least went to
the playoffs next year, will when a playoff game. I
see a world where were sitting here in twenty twenty
seven he asked for a trade. Dude, I I honestly,
and and Mike, if Mike listens to this, ear Muffett
or you know, take your head set off for a second.

(27:27):
I think there's there's a scenario where he goes to
management is like, you have to help me, you have
to help me this offseason. And if he doesn't, if
they don't, like he maybe does he hold out, does
he try to get traded somewhere? Like I feel like
he's very frustrated. I feel like he's and and in
a different way, he's he's almost I feel like he's

(27:49):
kind of hitting that point where Lebron hit with Cleveland
before the decision, because he's just like, that's a great
comp He's like I I like he wants to win
a title. I think he wants to do it and Cincinnati,
but if they're not going to help him, he's gonna.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Go do it somewhere else. No one told them, No
one told them to sign tiggin stuff fucking contract. Why
are you? Why are you paying Suiman all the year? Right?
Okays malpractice?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
If you have a Joe Burrow, you don't need to
be doing that stuff right right, Build the pay his
protection pay. And that's a message to multiple teams because
there's a there's multiple teams out there who have invested
a ton of money at the quarterback position and have
done nothing to protect them. You're you're you're literally lighting

(28:37):
your team's money on fire. So, uh, you know, the
injuries there and just the mismanagement there is brutal Baltimore.
That that's the surprise. Like I I thought Pittsburgh was
going to struggle this year, Sean and I on both
on huddle up, we predicted them to finish sub five hundred.

(28:57):
Doesn't look like that's gonna happen. Uh. But but I
feel like that's more because of what the division isn't
than what the Steelers are. But Baltimore is the real
surprise there, that that that thing has just gotten.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Very Lamars hurt. That Lamar is hurt. I think there's
a I'll think that this is there's a real disconnection
seen Lamar and John Harbaugh. I think so too.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
And I know I know Harball and and the ownership
of the Ravens are are very good friends. Excuse me, Harbor, Yeah,
Harball and and in like the front office there are
are like personal friends. That's a messy situation because what
do you do. Do you fire your friend or do
you get rid of your franchise quarterback? That that's a

(29:43):
tough call. I think that's going to be something to
watch in Baltimore coming out of this season.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah, is that a very weird and fast and very
cryptic offseason. I think keep an eye on some of
the things going on there, like a lot of things happening.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
And we saw tonight Chicago exploring possibly moving to Northwest
Indiana by the way. Really yeah, I don't know if
you saw that come through, but that the new the
new stadium deal is apparently not going to be like
a priority for the city uh next year, and they're
exploring other options, including Northwest Indiana.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
So are they going to be like the New York
Giants playing in Jersey?

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Sounds like it? Sounds like it wild man. It's already
wild enough that to know that Chicago Bears won't be
playing in Soldier Field, but the idea that they may
not even be in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
It's weirdly. Oh, I don't like that idea.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Dallas played Dallas has played in Irving and Arlington for
most of their far of those places from Dallas though, No,
I mean they're in the Dallas metro. Okay, then I
mean it's not bad state though, well, yeah, I mean
it's it's weird thing the Giants.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Thing is that's a weird now because I went to
Metles Stadium for the first time ever back in in August.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, it's literally like five or ten miles from New York.
Oh yeah, it's I mean it's it's literally just across
the line. Yeah, so like it's not a big like mass,
but it's still weird. Have you never been to like
the Metal Waves before? No?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
No ship?

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I so, I had only been there for the College
Football Kickoff Classic in two thousand and two Notre Dame
played Maryland there at the old stadium.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
M M. That was the only time I've ever been there.
Oh well, by way, it's a great stadium for the
concerts too.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
For the record, I believe that the way that it's shaped,
I feel like it's.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
The sound was amazing. The sound was incredibly We were
sitting like literally like facing the stage waiting the back
and down in corn sounded an amazing from the end.
So speaking of Indiana, that's a got to South Bend.
Are you still mad? Are you still pissed off? A?
Nor dameg and snubbed? Subbed also too? Uh?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
They they absolutely got snubbed, And I'm I'm frustrated at it.
I'm in a much better place about it than I was,
you know, a week ago. But yeah, look, there's there's
there's no way, there's no way to to slice it.
They absolutely got snub and they got snubbed by Alabama
and the sec bias of the committee in ESPN because

(32:07):
there's like, I'm not even I'm not even mad that
Miami got in ahead of them because of the head
to head. What bothers me about it is from the
first rankings that came out this year until the second
to last ones, Notre Dame was above Alabama, Notre Dame
was above Miami. Notre Dame was above BYU Notre Dame

(32:30):
was above Texas and Vanderbilt. And every week the committee
sat in front of us and they told us that,
you know, based on the eye test, based on what
we're seeing week in and week out with the games
and all of this, Notre Dame's better. There's no competition
between Notre Dame and Alabama and UH and and Miami
and this, and that they're not even in the same conversation. Cool,

(32:53):
So we're starting to feel pretty confident, right, and then
all of a sudden, in the second to last week
after Notre Dame goes out to Stanford, and I'm not
saying Stanford's a good team, so let me make sure
I get that out of the way. They went up
to Stanford on Thanksgiving weekend. They beat them handily by
twenty five plus points, coming off of a seventy to

(33:14):
seven win over again bad team Syracuse the week prior
Notre Dame. Over the weeks since the first college football
playoff rankings came out, all they did was beat every
opponent on their schedule by an average of thirty points
or more. Okay, in that same timeframe, Miami had lost

(33:35):
twice to unranked teams. Alabama had lost once to Oklahoma,
who's overrated as fuck because they're in the SEC. But
they lost to Oklahoma, they struggled to beat South Carolina,
who stinks, LSU, who doesn't have a head coach, and

(33:56):
a bad Auburn team who didn't even qualify for a postseason.
They had to go for it on fourth down late
in the game to take the lead and beat Auburn.
And that was the committee's justification for moving Alabama above
the There's.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Only one reason why Bama should nothing to play off
and didn't you didn't evention it the worst, the worst
loss of the fucking exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
But I'm I'm even just talking about that pocket from
when the first rankings came out until the end. Like Alabama,
the eye test was worse, but they moved it. And
in hindsight, this is what kind of bothers me the most.
In hindsight, I should have realized Notre Dame was screwed
that before the before conference championship weekend, because the minute

(34:44):
they moved Alabama above Notre Dame, they told us that
Notre Dame was done for because there was there was
there was a couple of scenarios that could play out
because Notre Dame in Miami didn't play conference championship weekend, right,
So at that time when they moved Alabama above Notre
Dame and went Alabama, Notre Dame BYU Miami BYU was

(35:06):
playing in the Big twelve title game. Alabama was playing
in the SEC title game. So when Alabama lost all
common senses, they should have dropped. I guess now we
know the committee had no intention. So Alabama was baked
in at number nine. Notre Dame was at ten. If
BYU wins, they won the Big twelve, they have to

(35:28):
get in. Notre Dame's out and then what we saw
happened was BYU lost, so they dropped that for the
first time, putting Notre Dame Miami next to each other,
and the committee had their out. So Notre Dame was
cooked before we even got the conference championship weekend. And
I'm actually mad at myself that I didn't recognize it
prior to that. But what just bothers me about it.

(35:49):
And I've said it for years and people have tried
to tell me I'm crazy. People tried to tell me
I have a tinfoil hat. On the committee, especially this year,
chaired by the athletic director of Arkansas. Guess what conference
they play in is the SEC. The SEC and ESPAN
are in the biggest bed with one another, have the

(36:09):
most financial to gain. Every team that makes the postseason
wins that conference for that team or conference, depending where
you're at, four a million dollars. Okay, it was mutually
beneficial for Alabama to get in over Notre Dame because
if if Notre Dame gets in, Notre Dame gets the money.
If Alabama gets in, the SEC slash ESPN get that money. Yeah,

(36:34):
and it is what it is. Man Like I was,
I was pissed about it. It was the first time
in a very long time. When I saw Alabama's picture
come on at nine, I literally felt my blood pressure
rising because I knew Notre Dame was done for. I'm
obviously much calmer now. And and here's the thing that

(36:55):
I'm really excited about. I think Marcus Freeman will one
thousand percent sen me back. I don't believe any of
the Giants Michigan, any of those other rumors, the Giants
on you. I mean, I would be very upset, but
I literally have no fear of that happening. I think
Marcus Freeman is locked in. I think I think he
I think he wants to win it Notre Dame. And also,

(37:19):
like I saw a quote from one of the Notre
Dame recruits for this class that's coming in on the
early enrollment in January. He said, uh that him and
the other recruits in the in the the incoming class,
they want to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
I think Notre Dame is going to be, if not

(37:39):
the most dangerous team, one of the three most dangerous
teams in twenty twenty six. I think this iss a
revenge tour because when you get past those first couple
of weeks, they came out of the gate. They had
the two hardest games. They lost by a total of
four points. It is what it is. And I know
people say, well, if you don't if you don't want
to get locked out, just beat Miami or Texas A
and m cool by four points. My Miami's one of

(38:03):
Miami's wins was by seven. Alabama got blown out of
the water by Florida State, who stank. Like, don't don't
talk to me about Alabama lost three times. Notre Dame
lost twice. Like I remember when losses used to mean
something too so, but after after those first two weeks,
after after they they kind of recollected themselves. Notre Dame's

(38:25):
defense got better, the offense got clicking. You had a
you had a freshman quarterback, a bunch of underclassmen on
the defensive side of the ball, and a brand new
defensive coordinator. Once everybody started working together, they became one
of the scariest teams in the country this year. Also,
and again, you can call me bias, you can call
me a Homer hit the button Homer Homer, but Notre

(38:47):
Dame was the had the fourth highest odds to win
the national championship going into selection Sunday. The SEC has
not won a national title in multiple seasons. You don't
you don't think that that the the committee and in
ESPN and company, even if even if ESPN is not involved,
you don't think the committee chaired by somebody on the
SEC didn't push for a team that that you know,

(39:13):
they they hadn't out to get one of the most
dangerous and best teams in the country out of the
picture that wasn't in the SEC. It just stinks, man,
It just stinks. I if I, if I had a
dream for college football, it would be that the just
the twelve best teams get in like that. That would
be the real dream scenario and and just let it

(39:35):
let everything play out.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Well, unfortunately, this format was you're not gonna get told
best teams ever, because as long as you allowing other
schools and know the conferences that are not in the
part of the Big four and they're on my beds
that they're not bro they're not better than half the
teams in the Big ten. Half its teams in the SEC.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Did you see You probably didn't because I think you were.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
You were on air.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
There's a new provision for next year. And the funny
part is for the last week because as Notre Dame's
athletic director was doing his media tour that there was
a leak about this memorandum in the contract beginning next
year where if Notre Dame is in the top twelve,
they automatically get locked in. I heard about that and

(40:19):
everybody was like, oh, Notre Dame is trying to play
by their own rules. There's an article on Yahoo Sports tonight.
I shared it to the huddle up paid I shared
it to the group. It was actually spearheaded by all
twelve conferences, but really powered by the SEC and the
Big Ten because the Big Ten in the SEC actually

(40:40):
kind of held college football at gunpoint and said, if
you don't agree to these terms, we're going to go
to our own postseason, and that's the postseason that's really
going to matter. So the basically what it is is
next beginning next year, the champions of the SEC, AC
see Big twelve and Big Ten have to get in,

(41:04):
and then the highest ranked group of five. Uh, well,
I guess group of six because technically PAC twelve will
be back next year, so the the the the the
best of the rest champion will get in and then
if Notre Dame is in the top twelve, they would
automatically get in and then you would have the at largest.

(41:27):
But so so like this year, for example, that would
have meant that eight and five Duke winning the UH,
the acc would have been in, James Madison would be out,
and then Notre Dame, because they were eleven, would have
gotten in over to Lane or excuse me, over Miami.

(41:48):
So there there's we're we're already gonna see changes next year.
And the bottom line is, and I know people are
mad at at Notre Dame having this provision, but I'm like,
it's basically their com friends Championship, right. So and here's
the thing, they still have to be in the top twelve,
right So even if Notre Dame is you know, ten

(42:10):
and two, and they're on that eleven twelve thirteen bubble,
the committee theoretically could just move them to thirteenth. Notre
Dame fell three spots this year by winning their last
two games, So don't act like it's it's impossible for
Notre Dame to find themselves out either. But but ultimately,
you know, I love that. I love the way Notre

(42:32):
Dame handled it. I'm extremely proud of the way that
they handled the situation. They've I think they've turned negatives
into positives. I highlighted on Huddle Up last night they
they went bowling.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
This year.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
They did a competitive bowling event where they raised like
money and goods and things for charities in the South
Bend area. So I'm really proud, and I was I
was pissed last week. I'm extremely proud, but I I
am not that I'm trying to hurry time, but I'm
very excited for for August to get here and see

(43:06):
a new season.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yeah, yeah, we're making the Sharon Moore scandal.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Then oh my god, my god, it is. It's ugly.
It's ugly. So it's really it's really odd because a
couple of weeks ago, I remember seeing like a tweet
from it was it was an Ohio State fan, I believe,
and it said Sharon Moore could be in trouble. I

(43:37):
was like, Okay, what's that hollow was this month ago,
month and a half ago, and I thought, man, it's
just an Ohio State fan, you know, just just stirring
up rivalry crap or whatever. And then I'm sitting there
on on Wednesday last week, I got like a note

(43:59):
of vcation on my phone. It was like thrown more
fired with cause. Oh so I opened it up and yeah,
you start to hear some of these details, and then
all of a sudden, the news breaks about you know,
him being him being arrested and threaten to kill himself,
thrown him to harm the woman he's having an affair with.
And then a couple of days later he have the

(44:21):
arraignment where the guy who's literally was just on the
sideline coaching during the Ohio State Michigan game keeping the
buck Eyes from getting to the midfield logo is sitting
in a white jumpsuit on a zoom call to talk
about surreal man. You know, my wife is a huge

(44:42):
Michigan fan, and then I've become almost like a the
de facto, you know, Michigan supporter because of it. It
was a it was such a weird, weird situation, and ultimately,
you know, here's the deal, We're we're I feel I
feel terrible for his wife and kids, because I mean,

(45:05):
he younger guy. I mean he's not even forty. Uh
he took thirty seven. Yeah, he's like thirty eight, thirty seven,
thirty eight, wife, young kids, three kids, youngest kids like
eight months old. So that that I feel terrible for them,
you know. And and I you know, look, people's business,

(45:30):
people's business. And and I'm and I'm not I'm not
here to pass judgment, but like it's something like when
my my wife and I we've been together over fifteen years,
and something we said to each other years ago, like
even before we were married, was like, look, if you're
ever gonna cheat, let's just split up. Like because when
you're you're already when you've hit that point already, like

(45:52):
what like your your marriage is already busted, right like
you're that that commitment, all of that, that's already busted.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
That's why I have nor if what played out is true,
like what be alleged and whatnot is true, to to
the to the to the tea, I have no smith
from w W whatever because you only did this, you
destroyed your fucking family.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Okay, old, this take a cod of belief for it,
you know, And that's it. And here's the deal, man,
Like you know, and and uh. Jim Harbaugh was on
Dan Patrick on Tuesday and Dan asked him, He's like,
have you have you talked to to Sharon's and like
all this gone down? He's like, yeah, we've we've texted
and he's like, you know, I told him, I'm praying

(46:33):
for me. He said, it's the worst, you know, the
worst thing that's ever happened in his life. Sharon said,
it's like the worst thing that's ever happened. And it's like, man,
first off, you you did it to yourself. You let
your own FEUs man. So number one priority, first off,
because it does sound like there is some mental health issues,
whether it's because of or in addition to the affair

(46:58):
and the breakdown of that relationship and whatever, get your
head right, and you know, deal deal with your family,
because you know, whether his wife takes him back or not,
that's up to her. Whether his kids want to have

(47:19):
a relationship with him, that'll be up to them. But
that that that's probaority Number one is is he's get
get your freaking head right. But it's just yeah, it's
just it's ugly man. And and I I do I
feel I feel horrible.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
I feel horrible for.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
His his wife and kids. You know, we're we're gonna
learn more about the probably the relationship between him and
the staffer. And here's the thing, like, obviously if he
became erratic and violent and stuff like that, that part

(47:57):
I feel bad for her in.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
But I I don't.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
I also don't really feel bad for a person who
willingly enters into a relationship with a person who's in
a marriage and has a family, because you know, you
you are making a poor choice there as well. So
it's it's it's just it's sad, it's ugly. And then

(48:22):
away from you know, away from him and the ugliness
of that, this isn't that's an ugly spot for Michigan,
who just has kind of another black mark on that
on that university and on that program over the last
couple of years. But the funny, the funny thing about

(48:43):
it is I've seen a lot of people be you know,
try to say, oh, nobody's gonna go coach. There's probably
only a handful of coaches that wouldn't leave their job
to coach at the University of Michigan right now. Hopefully
Marcus Freeman, Ryan Day, Kirby Smart probably doesn't. Lane Kiffin

(49:05):
probably doesn't, and that might be it. I know Kaylen
de Bor addressed it this week. It is like I'm
not talking to anybody and I'm happy here and blah
blah blah. If Alabama loses by like thirty on Saturday
on Friday Night to Oklahoma. Uh Kaylen de Bor might
sing a different song, that's all I'm I agree with that, Like,

(49:30):
not that, not that Michigan isn't a tough place to
coach and be. I think it's just different there. I
think they they they admire football a different way at
the University of Michigan than they do at Alabama. Both
very important, both very serious fan bases. But Michigan, we

(49:53):
have what two and a half weeks until the portal opens.
Michigan had to act quickly. I also want to commend
Biff Pogey, who is the current interim head coach who's
in charge of that program getting ready for the cheese
at Bulligan's, Texas, because he had kind of addressed the

(50:16):
situation uh in in the press conference this week and
he's like, look, he goes, we're all shocked, we're all confused,
we're all angry. But he's like the the number one
priority is making sure these kids are okay and listening
to them and you know, basically kind of counseling them
through this. And he's like, we're not forcing anybody to

(50:37):
play that doesn't want to. But it seems like he's
he's a really great leader.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
And and and and.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Figure for that team and those those kids in that
program right now. Who look, man, I I had a
tough family situation with with my dad when I was
twenty five, and it didn't make sense at twenty five.
I don't know how kids who are eighteen, nineteen twenty

(51:13):
can handle what happened with their football coach, a coach
that they came to a school to play for and
now have to deal to deal with this. So having
a leader like Bif Bogey, I think is probably the
best guy to be at the forefront of that team
right now.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah, it's a real old situation though, but they'll get
through it. Yeah, still still great job to have once
they clemp. Once they clemped, the Beau's a lot there's
a lot of black cloud around that school for the
last couple of years now, you know, don't easy forget
the one A championship year ago.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Right, I think, yeah, I think, and I know one
of the names that has kind of been brought up
as a potential candidate is Jesse Minter, who was the
defensive coordinator there under Jim Harball. Not that he wouldn't
be a good head coach, I think for Michigan right now,
you you kind of have to get away from everything Hardball.

(52:07):
I think you need to bring somebody from the outside,
like I just think, to to to begin to kind
of clear the air in ann Arbor, you kind of
have to go outside to your own, your own box.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
You know, it sucks too well, so not have to
be a racist too. Also, but stroll Moore, black man.
You know a lot of blackmen don't get the opportunity.
It's not going to coach, but to coach this job. Yeah,
this guy had one of the best Michigan's easy, one
of the five or time best jobs in all collegeable. Yeah,
and you blew the opportunity because of cheese and tail.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Right right, you know, And and I get it. It's
a it's an addiction. It's an addiction like a drug,
like an alcohol, like gambling, like it really is. And
I think that's a societal problem. That people don't think
about enough foods in it addiction. You know, we don't,
we don't. We only we only try to tackle drug

(53:05):
addiction or alcohol addiction. We don't try to tackle gambling
or or sex or or food or any of those
other vices. But yeah, and I I saw a tweet
and it kind of it was kind of like it
makes you chuckle, but it kind of breaks your heart
in the same way because you you look at kind
of the downfall when Juwan Howard was the head basketball

(53:27):
coach there and kind of snapped and I think it
kind of I think tried to like choke an assistant
coach or something like that. And now this and you know,
you have your your first black head coach in basketball
and football and somebody's like they're not going to hire
another brother for uh, for one hundred years at Michigan.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
You've got to be, like, I hate to bring race
to it, but you gotta be a lot of times
black people like they have to be extra.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
You do. And and I obviously I'm not saying that
from a from a place of experience, but I have
I have, you know, a number of black friends and
like just just from from talking to my friends and
talking to people and listening to people in the world
that that is the the sad reality of the country
that that we live in is like spoken or sadly

(54:16):
so many times unspoken. There's a reality that that an
entire group of people, UH have to hold themselves to
a different level. And when one person makes a mistake,
it affects so many more people. Like one white dude
fucks up, nobody fucking cares. The same thing with women too,

(54:36):
like I mean, like you know, and and when one
when whenever you see like one person like one if
like one woman, one woman like falsely accused somebody of rape,
like then then it's like, well, every woman who says
they were rape is lying, Like no, it means that
person was lying, you fucking idiot, Like just because she

(54:59):
lied doesn't mean that these hundreds and thousands of other
women lied. Just because this one guy fucked up his
entire life and career doesn't mean that every other person
fucked up. And that same person like I hat you know,
and and I say these things understanding that I say

(55:20):
it from a place of privilege.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Yeah, yeah, just change gathers here. John Cena retired at
this week, UH what'd you make it?

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Did you?

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Were you okay with the finish? Yeah? I actually was, well,
what am I nority here? Because everybod else hates it?
I think.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Too many people it just expected that last feel good moment,
especially because he lost the Intercontinental title survivor Cereal. Nobody's
they're not gonna make John lose his final two matches.
But we were talking about on three count last week,
and part of it was like, well, he can't give up, right,
like he can, he can pass out, but he can't submit.

(56:06):
And it's like bullshit.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
He hasn't quit.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
He hasn't submitted in over twenty years.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
That's the finish like that, that's that's the way this
has to go down.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
That in his because when you when you even go
back to that that first night, I think it was
in Montreal that he announced that he was retiring, that
he was going to go on this retirement tour, he
has said the one constant everything that he has said
from that moment was I don't want to retire, but

(56:39):
I'm retiring because I can't do this anymore, because I
can't do it at the level that I require of
myself and the fans require me of so it is
it is poetic that in his final moment, like he
could have kept fighting, but he how many times did
he fight out of the sleeper to end up back
in the sleeper? Right, So no matter what he is,

(57:02):
no matter what he was going to do, he was
going to end up back in that spot because he
couldn't he couldn't win. So there's a moment of clarity,
and I think it's it. I saw somebody say it
and he even tweeted out the picture. And you're a
Star Wars guy, right, Uh, kind of my kids are
like still the original movies when when when Obi Wan

(57:23):
got struck down by Vader, Right, there's a moment of
clarity where he turns the saber off and he smiles
because he's accepted his fate.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
That's what John Cena did.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
He knows, I'm at the end, that there's nothing more
I can do, that this is it, this is this
is the moment, and I'm trapped. I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
This is the end. And he tapped out and he
gave up. And the thing is.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Nobody was happy when the Undertaker lost to Broadclaisterer, but
w we did something with it. Well, right, the pockets
of people, but overall, overall, people weren't happy the streak
shugarne On forever blah blah blah. My whole thing when
that happened is do something with it. And wwe did

(58:14):
something with it. They made it matter. And here's the deal.
You have a list of people coming up over the
next couple of years that are going to be retiring.
The Grim Reapers coming for all of them, right, like right,

(58:38):
he already did it to Goldberg. Now he's done it
to John Cena. Guess what, aj Styles, Chris Jericho, brock Lesner,
Seamus uh Randy Orton, you got your new legend, killer Man.
Good's gonna Goodther's gonna run all of these dudes out.
And that's what makes it. That's what makes it matter.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
And that was my point to also that it's gonna
make sense if they run with theother going forward. But
I get this is why I com bad at the
IWC all the time. Is that okay, fine, you get mad.
I must say, never get mad at about it. But
at the same time, it's not your story to tell,
it's theirs, right, and it's okay to get mad. That's
the point.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Yeah, like if if WW is not me, the thing
that bothers me with fans and fan reactions is for
so long the thing was, wwe can't make heels. Wwe
can't make us feel anything. Oh it's so predictable. Oh
it's this.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Oh it's boring.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Oh it doesn't make you know, it doesn't evict the
emotions out of me like it did when I was younger. Yo,
they made you big man. They had to escort Gunther
out of the building. It out of DC on on
Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Really yeah, Like there was like because like you know,
the the arenas right down there in Chinatown in DC
and people were coming out of the building. They're pissed,
Like there was actually security like getting it. Get You're
getting through the crowds to get him out of there.
You you've made a heel now, right like and and

(01:00:08):
and I get the cool thing is fuck you triple
H and people chanting a W and this that and
the other. But like, listen to the reaction gun there
got on Monday and Hershey, like you you have a
you have a heel now and a guy who like
and I love like he's interacting with that kid during
the show and he's standing on the steps and he's

(01:00:29):
doing the you know, and he's he's my biggest My
biggest complaint with goon Thro a couple of years ago
was like he's great in the ring, but he has
no charisma.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
That motherfucker has grown into a w w A superstar.
Yeah he has, he really has. And when he came
back with with with the old music, I'm like, this,
motherfucker's about that. That great makes money. I saw that.
What is ah? So, what does John c mean to you?

(01:01:00):
Your your story with wrestling is that you did check
off a little while dren the seenior years, but he
came back during the senior years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Yeah right, Yeah, So I it was early two thousands
when I went to college in two thousand and three.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
From then till.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Wrestling about wrestling a twenty six times, so probably about
six years I kind of checked out. So a lot
of that was, you know, the the early part of
the sena, the senior career. John Cena is without question,
one of the best WWE superstars of all time. I Mean,

(01:01:40):
he everything about him is sports entertainment, everything about him
is is is what is what the WWE is and
breathes on and I've I've never I've never seen somebody
be able to handle whatever the crowd is giving them

(01:02:00):
like John Cena, because it didn't matter if the crowd chant,
let's go Sena, He's in, Sena sucks, He's in, Like
it didn't matter. He evoked emotion out of every single person,
every single building he was ever in. And I know,
like there was always the jokes about big match John
and always burying people, and you know that, first off,

(01:02:23):
it is not his call, but secondly, you know it
he's he might be the last greatest superstar, so you know,
because yeah, I mean Roman Reigns. It's different, and like
he had a period of time where it was cool

(01:02:46):
to hate him, then it was cool to love him.
And even though like the Bloodline thing was like the
greatest story ever told, John Cena did it for over
twenty years and I just don't think you're gonna get
anything like that at least for a while. So it's

(01:03:06):
it's it's special. It was, it's it was just it
was another one of those like weird ones where you
where you're reminded you're old, like you know, like watching
watching him the Undertaker Goodbye was was was tough, like yeah,

(01:03:27):
and and and Sina Sina was was one that was
was a weird emotion knowing that it was his last
it was his last match. It's it's a strange feeling.
But I think it's cool that he kind of got
to do that, he got to do the farewell tour.
It would have been would have been nice if they
could have negotiated a few more dates out of it.

(01:03:50):
I know, like there was that, you know, he wanted
to work two hundred the wwege even thirty eight, Like
I think if you could have gotten like maybe seventy,
I think that would have been a really good number.
I think you could have gotten a little more life
out of the heel thing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
But well, the thing, the thing is the heal didn't
didn't make sense. Well it made sense in the time,
but what did it makes sense was was them turning
him back to babyface. But no explanation.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
He just yeah, and that's they didn't give themselves enough.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Time, no no reason. And this is the problem. When
he's working on the calendar like this, yep, and we
see the calendar like not that I'm seeing him, but
what we as fans, there's dates we have ten dates
left like, oh, ship right, that's how are we going
to do this? You know, yeah, it's it's it's it's flawed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Now here's the deal. Like the way that they executed
it and they did the tournament and all of that
going there was the right guy. The finish was the
right way. Agreed.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Agreed.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
I still think that you could have You could have
done it differently. You could have just had him say Saturday,
December thirteenth is going to be my last match, and
you know, we're we're we're gonna we're gonna do it.
We're gonna do it my way, right, And he just

(01:05:08):
comes out and he open challenges it. And you get
Chris Jericho, or you get Randy Orton, or you get
you know, find a way to make a deal with
Tony Kahn and bring in Adam Copeland. Yeah, and you
could have done it that way. And then John gets
the win and and and and goes off into his

(01:05:31):
good night, takes off the wrist bands, raw Ross salute,
bye bye everybody. But the minute you locked into the
tournament and the minute you locked in Gunther, the what
happened Saturday was the way it had to go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Down, and predictable too, honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Yeah, and that's okay. Yeah, sometimes predictable is okay.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
Yeah. Yeah, I asked this question on the Wrestling Pod earlier.
I'll ask you this, uh because obviously he would be
a Hall of Famer. There's no quite question. Who should
induct him in a different world, Vince McMahon, I said,

(01:06:13):
But unfortunately, unfortunately, in in reality, Randy Orton. Yep, that's
what Rob said too. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Yeah, I mean Randy's his longest running, arguably greatest rival.
So yeah, I think it's I think it's got to
be Randy. Vince gets quitted of all of all accusations
in the next you know, one hundred and twelve days
or whatever it's going to be, because I I.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Think starting soon, right, yeah, I believe. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
I don't know the actual timeline on any of those situations,
but I think Sina probably gets inducted this year. I
think it's going to be an immediate induction into the
Hall of Fame. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
So, yeah, it'll be It should be Randy. Do you
think we'll see seen it again like in involved make
a random match or maybe just U.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
No, No, I think he will make appearances. He signed
a five year like ambassador deal. I think he'll make
appearances for the company. I think you'll see him maybe
from time to time on a panel or making a
special announcement or something like that. But I think it's
I think it's suit and tie John. I don't think
we ever see hat, wristbands, s georts, any of that.

(01:07:33):
I really don't think we see another match of his again.
And here's the thing I would be. I would actually
be very disappointed if we get it, if we get
another John Cena match, because you know, for everybody saying, well,

(01:07:53):
this was a stab in the back because he was
never give up and then he gave up. Here's the thing,
like the thing that I always felt like you could
respect out of John Cena, the character is that if
he said something that was the truth, and if for
him to wrestle again for any reason, would would be

(01:08:17):
would make all of this, all the money people spent
on tickets, on merchandise and all of that, it would
make it a big lie because it wasn't the last match.
It wasn't the last time. So I think we see
John Cena, but I don't think we ever We never
see big match John again.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Yeah, I mean, you could be right, you could be right.
I will say as much for John Cena, like he
wasn't my guy, because obviously when I was when I
was watching, when I stopped watching in two thousand and two,
he got moved to Ring Roster ly months after I
stopped watching, and by the time it came back twenty nineteen,
he was ready pretty much gone. He didn't come back
to twen twenty one for the last one. So all
my seene a moment I've experts real time werelast five years. Honestly, right,

(01:09:02):
I haven't said that he's still abut Rushmore. He is
everything I thought whole COVID was. That's a kid Johnson
was really that guy. Like you get you get the
feeling that the person we've seen John Cena in the Ring,
the guy he is make a wish like that's real,
that's who he really is. You get a feeling that
that that's not that that's that's that is who he is.

(01:09:23):
He's a very authentic guy. Yeah, and uh, you know
he's gonna be missed. He's gonna be missed, definitely. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Tim told us the story on on three Count last
week in in two thousand and five or whatever. When
is when the rap album came out. Tim grew up
in the Virginia area, Richmond, Virginia area, and it was
at a signing. Part of seeing was promoting the album

(01:09:51):
and it was one of these deals of like a
music store and you would you had to pay ahead
of time for you could either do a autograph, a
picture or combo right, uh, but you had to pay
ahead of time to get in line whatever. And there
was a mom and her son who were in line
that didn't they didn't know that it was that you
had to buy ahead of time and they're getting up

(01:10:11):
near the front of the line and I guess, like
you know, the security was like did you guys buy
a photo or whatever? And they're like what are you
talking about? Or just here to meet John Cena And
like they're like, well, no, you had to you had
to pre pay. And the kid had the copy of
the album in his hand he was going to have
him sign it. And as security was like getting ready

(01:10:34):
to like remove them from the line. Yeah, because John
saw this as there were only a couple of people
deep and goes, ah, that kid has the golden ticket,
I meaning he has the album. So brought him up, signed,
took took pictures with the and Tim's like that that
will always be like his memory, which is cool, Like
you don't you don't always see that, especially now when

(01:10:56):
everything is you know, autographs, tickets are purchased for hundreds
of dollars through fanatics, premium events and blah blah blah
like that. That's that's a pretty cool in it. And
I'm like, man, that kid was probably what seven eight
years old, That kid's now thirty thirty one. I guarantee
you he was probably watching Saturday Night with tears in

(01:11:17):
his eyes, just tired. Because that's a lifetime, that's a
core memory.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
That's a great story. Uh well yeah, uh you know
ifa was Rob Ryner charged tragedy? Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
I mean, I've seen I obviously, I've seen the news
and it's got awful man it it it sucks like
I saw like the original tweets about it the other
night when they're you know, said there was an incident
at his home and this and that, and then you
find out him and his wife were killed, and then

(01:11:49):
you find out it's a sign and it's just it's
it's heartbreaking, man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
It's a same some STAMELNK case here pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, everybody deserves their day
in court and all of that. Certainly, let the legal
process take hold. But but by all accounts it and
it looks like that that that's what it is. And man,
it's tragic. It's tragic and it and the the unfortunate
thing is it's it's a reminder you know, we we
just kind of talked about it a couple of minutes

(01:12:17):
ago that did this country does not do anywhere close
to enough for uh mental health. This country does not
do anywhere near enough for for for handling addiction and
handling mental health issues. And I just continue to ask
the question, like what what what what's it going to take?
Like what it truly what is it going to take?

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
It takes people personal to take people being hit personally
to register if if if you're disconnected from it, you're
not going to feel it, you're not gonna asked to
be felt before people take it seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
But we've we've literally seen actors, musicians, celebrities taken because
of it. We've seen it's thousands of kids.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
So nothing but say I'm someone that's like I don't
care about that stuff. But if someone like like my kid,
or my my spouse or my my cousin, maybe that
went me up. That's the problem. But that's a bad place.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
That's because like you know, I mean you think about,
like you know, things like Sandy Hook and count the
school shootings, and like if you can't, if you can't
look at images or or even just the notion of
a second grader going to school and never coming home,
and that that doesn't make an emotion for you. I man,

(01:13:47):
I I don't. I don't understand. Like I don't have kids.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
I don't have kids. My wife and I made a
decision to not have kids. But I have friends who
have kids, and uh, I have nephews, and like, I
have so many I have so many people in my
life who have kids. And I mean I have co
workers who I've been with for four years and I
see every day and we all work from home, and

(01:14:14):
I've literally seen their kids grow up. I have some
of my best friends I've literally seen had had pictures
sent from like the hospital when their kids are born
and they're now in in grade school. And I'm going, how, like,
how does not everybody have some sort of connection there
or you know, your favorite actor, your favorite music, like something,

(01:14:36):
something has to click and it just never does.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
It just never does.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Man's it's so tragic, it really isn't And like they
like but also that I don't know why I've thought
of thought of it random times over the years when
when we have these celebrity incidents, but like you know,
like video of of like Billy Crystal like arriving to

(01:15:02):
the house, and like TMZ is like tweet, like what
the fuck is TMZ a thing?

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Like like do like we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
I don't need I don't need to see Billy Crystal
heartbroken coming to the house of his dear friend who's
been slain in their home. Like I don't I don't
need that. I don't need to hear the nine one
one call of uh you know, of of them when
they called nine one one because you know, Haul Cogan

(01:15:30):
was having a heart attack. I don't need to hear
the nine one one call of the shron more like
what like I don't I that None of that stuff
makes sense to me, the fact that there's an industry
for catching people these in these the Andy Dick overdose
last week, I saw that oh my gosh, crazy hell man,

(01:15:51):
Like why are we sharing this video? Like what like
the the obsession in the culture around these.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
We're the aero narcissum.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
It is, it's insane, Like let people grieve, Let peo
Like it's okay if if you know, you're you know,
CBS Nightly News comes on the air and and you know,
actor Andy Dick was uh, you know, had had had
to be rushed for an emergency uh overdose situation today
and reportedly in good spirits and we wish him the

(01:16:22):
best on his recovery. Like that, that's okay, But like
I don't need to see the video of him of
friends trying to revive him with narkhand, like what are
we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Like, what are we doing? Yeah, it's so bad, it's
all so bad. Well you've had work.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Yeah, I mean, first off, loved All in the Family.
I grew up each watching reruns of it, but and
and watching rewatching as I've seen it shared many times
that the final scene with him and Archie is just
it's it's it's so heartbreaking and so loving and probably

(01:16:58):
something a lot of people can learn from.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
And yeah, I mean the countless movies that he was
in and directed and produced just just absolutely tremendous and
and by all accounts, and look, I know his his
politics didn't always mess with a lot of people, but
you know, I think about the contrast between between the

(01:17:25):
reaction to this and reaction to another very public passing
in recent months, and in light of that situation, Rob Reiner,
there's there's tweets and and clips of him saying that like, look,
I didn't agree with this individual's politics, but what happened

(01:17:49):
to them should never happen. They should be allowed to
say the things that they they want, and they believe
that's at least in theory, you know what, what makes
this country really really good, and that's that's what it's
supposed to be like. And then in contrast, we're seeing
a group of people not reacting in similar ways, and

(01:18:12):
it's it's it's just another harsh and unfortunate reminder that
we live in kind of this bizarro world. But yeah,
it really sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
He seemed he seemed by all accounts, like a like
a really genuine uh oh well question.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
I mean, I'm a huge fan of his work. I mean,
to my top ten from movies of all time, he
directed Princess Bride, and when Harry Matt Sally, you know,
I also follow his politics, like whenever he was on Bilmar,
when he was on Bill Peersborgan, he was doing a
random interview with some show. I will watch it because
he's on there because I always love to talk. Here
is his point of view on the world. Arge, So

(01:18:53):
he's he was definitely someone that I was interested in,
not just because it was talent, but because it was
just his can very well spoken to, very very well
and very nice guy closes, very nice guy to.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Also very genuine and man that the clip and going
around of I guess it was three days before his dad, Carl,
Carl Reiners passing. They re enacted the last scene from
Prince's Bride together and you know, now, you know, I'd

(01:19:26):
like to believe somewhere in a in another in another form, Uh,
they've been reunited.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
So he also direct to the documentary on Not Dobout
actually a bio pick on Lindon Johnson actually about ten
years ago. Wow, Okay, I think whaty Harlson played Lyndon Johnson.
I gotta watch that, Yeah, I should, I gotta watch that.
I gotta watch that all right, this is why we're
here today. We would talk about this weeks ago top

(01:19:53):
five favorite Christmas songs personal for us. So I got
a couple of all Remn and Sere, which we'll get
to after we'll go five to one months of order. Uh,
your fifth favorite song of all time is what?

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
So I feel like this one? And and you know,
we've done music lists on on on this show, on
on discussions with the nobody that will eventually.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Uh eventually come back. I'm I'm not saying I appreciate that.
I just missed it, you know, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
And and dude, Tim, I had to laugh Tim on
on three counts. The last time I did an episode
last November.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
A year.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
It's been over it. It's been over a year, bro.
But Tim had listened to it and was like, dude,
this is this episode is some of your best work
because I got I got personal about things and it's
been a hard year hopefully and maybe that's one of
my goals for twenty twenty six is to recommit to

(01:20:58):
that a bit. But yeah, like we on that show,
we've we've done music listen and they're always fluid, right, like, Yeah,
we we've done like the top ten queen songs and
if if we redid it today, like there may be
one or two that that get moved.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
The tweakswek So.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
My number five is one, and I think I I
can't remember this might have sparked this topic is one
that I'm like this year especially and then last year
A bit has really become like an earworm and when
I hear it, it makes me feel good, it makes
me feel happy. Is Underneath the Tree by Kelly Clarkson.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
That song through the years has really grown on me.
It's so good. I like to be annoyed by that.
And then like when I first came out, I'm like,
I think it's after COVID it really Oh okay, do
I get it? Now? I get it. Plus I'm a
little bias of Kelly because my sister's on the show
with her, their best friends on the show on American Idol,

(01:22:06):
so I'm a little biased to that too. Well she's
a very sweet person.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Too, so she's she's so good, she's unbelievably.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
Yeah yeah, so uh five from Me is actually uh
very popular obviously, like a legendary song. Christmas Time is
Here by the Vinsted Geraldi Trio that's obviously from the
Charlie Brown you know peanuts. You know I've heard I've
heard us on a lot this week, especially too at work,
and I was not in a spirit of Christmas at all.

(01:22:36):
But between put up my tree on Sunday and my
way my tree, no Lie, and my wife even greeting
me this've been together nineteen years, that is by far
the best tree we've ever bought for. Send me a picture. Yes,
it's fucking amazing. The treat itself. I forget the lights
all stuff, it's the treatsulf It's amazing. Sou by way,
we have it in a in Ah wicked colors for
her because she was which wanted, she got which she

(01:22:57):
wanted by myself.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Do you have like do you have a light set
that like you can change the colors on?

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
So yeah, the funny yes, and but the funny thing
is also too there was there was a a combo
where those colors come out to also the green and yellow. Yeah,
so it works out pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
That song is amazing though, so.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
We had we we we had a couple of different
trees over the years, and real tree or fake tree,
fake tree. My wife has really bad allergy, so we
can't bring a real tree.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
It's funny and like fake trees for years. And then
I met her and I was like, oh, come on
every year to do this ship now but now I
get it. But but the thing is that the thing
is now I get I get the value. Now I
totally get it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Yeah, And I mean like, but so for years, we
like we had like the pre lit ones that like
you could change the color and made the pre set
like all red, all blue, multi colored white, and then
lights started dying and this and that. So we bought
on sale a balsam hill, which is very expensive artificial trees.

(01:23:58):
They look very real, but we decided to go with
one that wasn't pre lit and just buy a strand
of lights because then if the lights go bad, we
just have to replace lights, not the whole damn tree.
And we got these uh there. The brand it's made
by Twinkly is the lights, and they have an app
and you can you can set different individual colors, different

(01:24:20):
patterns that you can make them flicker and and uh
you know kind of have like this wavy effect to it.
And there's all these preset ones. So it's uh, we
we we absolutely love our tree and every day one
of us will change the color and that's the color.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Yeah, I love it. Yeah, all right, Number four here
do you got?

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
Number four?

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Not any like specific artist, but a Holy Night but
it's got to be kind of more like a traditional
like a Perry Como or Nat King Cole and Josh
bur That that one like when when I think of
all like different hymns, I think I grew up in
church and and go of course services and stuff like that.

(01:25:03):
For some reason, that one, if it hits me on
at the right time, that that that song can actually
make me cry.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Four from me is Someday Christmas by the Jackson five. Okay,
I love I love Michael and Jermaine.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I figured that you would have at least one jack Actually,
well not necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
I mean, I love the album, but there's there's a
lot of the songs I do love that play a
lot more than the J five album. It is my
favorite album to play every year. But it's definitely the
songs there. They they're great. But there's other Christmas songs
I do love, probably more than that. But this year,
this one, this song I means a lot more this year,
So this list now very full list. It can change

(01:25:47):
next year, but this year, this list right now is
based on how I fun the last couple of years.
So but yeah, I love I love this this version
of the song.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
So my my top two songs, obviously we'll get there
are locked in. Those ones will never change. Three through
five I think are ones.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
That I I feel like we may have the same
song about top two. We'll get there the second I
want to be surprised. Well, oh see, I have a
feem we may have it. I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Maybe three What do you got, gene Autry, Here comes
Santa Claus. I mean, it's it's the it's the classic voice,
it's the it's just everything about it feels I I
I know, like we had the album growing up. My wife,
her and her family had the album growing up. We
have we have it on record now. We bought it

(01:26:36):
a couple of years ago, and when I hear it,
I just it just feels like Christmas, whether it's a
memory of an old Christmas, a current Christmas and making
Christmas what what it is for us now as we
as we get later in life.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
Yeah, it's it's that's Christmas. Yeah, classics, Bodody, oh God, yea,
I'm good like. There are a couple of modern songs
I do like, like Clarkson's and Ryan Cary b BA.
But to me, it never feels like Christmas for me
unless I get the classics, like the forties and the

(01:27:15):
fifties classics, you know what I'm saying, because they it
has the win refeel in those in those versions in
my opinion. All right, Number three for me as the
Last christis by whim mm hm. That's on my love
that song love honorable mentions. Yeah, yeah, love love love

(01:27:36):
love love song. I first, I'm a huge Orge Michael
fan anyway, So but yeah, fantastic song, even though it's
really a sad song though it his it really but
but but the Bellies is great though, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
So now do you do you ever partake and participate
in in the way mcgeddon craze and it was fun
in way mcgeddon.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
So no, you don't want to tell about you don't
want tell about the years ago?

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Remember, yeah, I do it like yeah, so I actually
I actually got knocked out by the movie Last Christmas,
which not a terrible movie, but I yeah, it's not
one that I'll probably ever watch again. Also because there's
a twist, and if if once you see the twist,

(01:28:24):
you don't you never need to see it again. But
I should have seen it coming. But right out right
out of the jump, they started talking about her love
this the one character's love of George Michael, and I went, oh,
I'm cooked, and I was. I was knocked out in
the opening credits of the movie. But yeah, I I
I participate. It's fun. But like my favorite part is,

(01:28:46):
once I do get knocked out, then I can listen
to any station at any time and not have to
worry about getting.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Hell yeah, all right, you're top two. I'm really excited
about this one.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
All right, number two. And I have a couple of
friends who are fans of this band and didn't know
that they had a Christmas song. Thank God It's Christmas
by Queen Queen.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
I knew you have a song on in your top Live.
I knew it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
It's a song that can bring me to tears and
we'll bring when we did.

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
A Queen Top ten on your show a couple of
years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Yeah, it's in my top ten because I love I
love Christmas songs, and it's a very it's a reflective song,
look back on the year. I'm a reflective person. And yeah,
it's it's it's it's really if you if you haven't
listened to it before, make this the year you do.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
It's a phenomenal song. And you know I love Queen
so uh two for me a bit corny, but I
love the song. Anyway. Do they know those Christmas do
they those Christmas time? And all my band aid, oh,
love it, love it. It's it's love song like I have.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
I have a list of songs that I actually have
saved in my phone because at some point during Christmas
I have to hear them. And if I get to
like the twentieth or twenty first I haven't heard them
in the wild yet, I will go to my phone
and I will listen to my my Christmas playlist that

(01:30:11):
that song's on my list.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
Yeah, I love this song, dude, it's Corny's that maybe
ben again another saddest song, right, it's not. It's really
a cry to helping the poor and the poverty and
when and whatnot. It's it's actually to be honestly, it
is a precursion to we on the world because this
song came out about two bunchs where we Are the
World was released. Yeah, yeah, So yeah, I think I'm

(01:30:37):
gonna guess that we have to say number one. I'm
gonna assume that, let's see, I one.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
I would be shocked, Okay, maybe maybe not shocked if
we have the same one. The one I will say
that My number one is the Royal Guardsman. Uh Snoopy's
Christmas I have a too, no joking, No, that would
that would out of me. You know, What's what I'm
talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
Right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Yeah, the Christmas bell Christmas bells, well Christmas bells. Yeah that.
And I think I think it's because, like I I mean,
I'm a drummer, I'm a percussionist, and and the big
vertical bells like that's that's what they're playing. And I
got had a chance to play those when I was
in orchestra in high school and they're a super fun

(01:31:26):
instrument to play. And and and I've just it's such
a it's I mean, it's kind of it's kind of
a weird song, but I think it does just kind
of have this message of of kind of bringing everybody together.
And yeah, and yeah, I've I've I've always just if
you know me and you know the music list we've

(01:31:49):
done over the years. Typically the ones that especially get
near the top of my list are are not not
not the most typical, not not what everybody would put
at the top of their list. And I think that's
what is even special about this one is most people,
there's some people that don't have never even heard this song,
and exacondly what most people wouldn't put it at the

(01:32:10):
top of their list.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
Yeah, I'm a little shocked, actually thin, but they're your
number one on my number one because the number one
is actually very common song. It's a song that makes
you feel like, okay, it is the Christmas time, It's
the most wonderful time over year by Annie Williams. Do
it has to be the any one's version though it
cannot be in version of that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
But that one such a good, great version of that song.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
No one could do this, other could do the song
that a no way he did it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
No, there's other versions that I do enjoy, but they're bad.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
Version right, Yeah, to me, this is the version. This
is because every time I heard the song that gets
me in the movie for Christmas. Every time I heard
the song, so that's my number one. I had a
couple of all mentioned that three here, got a couple
more on my phone. I gotta find. But the three
I listed here Elos Presley Blue Christmas, I have Kelly Clarkson,
like you said, underneath a Tree and have Brenda Lee

(01:33:06):
rocking around the Christians.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Tree another good one. Yeah, that one is on my
short list.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
As well from James Brown too.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Also Somewhere Christmas All Over Again by Tom Petty is
another one of my favorites. Yeah, I've always I've always
loved that, Always been a big Tom Petty guy. Sinatra's
Mistletoe and Holly one of my one of my all
time favorites. Check that out if you have not the

(01:33:35):
uh the Spirit of Christmas by Ray Charles's in Christmas
Vacation is another one that I've always loved. Uh funny
song weird Awl's Christmas at Ground Zero I've I've always
I've always enjoyed as well. But Christmas Wrapping as well
is another one that Yeah, it's man, I've I've over

(01:33:59):
the years, like there's there's been times where I've I've
started listening to Christmas music. I get my earbuds. Like
the day after Thanksgiving or even before Thanksgiving, I've I've
been listening to a lot of different Christmas music this year,
some traditional stations that just play all all of the hits.
And then because I have YouTube Premium, I'll put on

(01:34:21):
just yeah while I'm working of like instrumentals and and old.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Did you get that recently? I've had it for over
a year, probably because I've had like four or five years.
I I can't do without it. Nope, Nope, like I
when I got when I got it, you know me,
I like spend money us. I have to. Once I
got it, I never looked back.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Those fuckers gave me a free trial of it, and
that that that's what got me because when going a
month without ads and to see much time, ye like,
I like I said a no, I'll never pay for YouTube.
And then I had it for a month and like
after like two days post trial, I went fuck it.

(01:35:06):
I bought it and I haven't ye ever since.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
We watched so much.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
We watch so much stuff on YouTube, like we we
we follow like the Disney Food Blog. We watch Disney
Food Blog almost every almost daily, and like to have
a commercial every three and a half minutes on these
fucking videos would drive me insane. And I listened to
music on there while I work.

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
I watch more material on YouTube regularly every day than
do any of the service. Like honestly, I probably I can't.
I'm not saying I would do this. I want to
do this, but I would so fast canceled HBO, Netflix
and Hulu or everything else and just get YouTube because

(01:35:50):
I watch. What if I watch all my sports media stuff,
for example.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
YouTube, but watch watch like I I will listen, Like
I'll listen to Dan Patrick most days, but I like,
I like, I would listen to him through serious like
on the radio while I'm working. But like, if I
have to cut out for a call or something, what
do I do in the afternoon. I go to the
interview on on his YouTube page because they post their interviews.

(01:36:16):
They post from the interviews, like you know, Rich Eyesen.
I've I've watched segments of the radio show and the
President Steve showing Philadelphia. They have clips that go up there,
Disney Food Blog. I'll catch WWE stuff on there, other
wrestling stuff, their name stuff like, Yeah, I spend a
lot of time, a lot of time on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
Yeah, YouTube iss my best friend. It really is. Yeah,
they're gonna have me locked in on that monthly subscription.
Also another song I love. It's a Santa Claus go
Straight to the Ghetto by Yo James Brow.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
I'll have to pull that one up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
And so anyway, great job Jim as always uh plug
away anything wanna plug? Uh, I mean went down to
the last couples of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
So yeah, uh three count Thursday, three c T. So
you can get everything for me. You just go to
my Twitter and Blue Sky at big Gym Sports. I
have my link tree in there and there I have
direct links to all my projects. But uh three CT.
We have our last live show of the year uh

(01:37:26):
tomorrow night, Thursday night. Really yeah, because Christmas years so uh,
but we have content. We recorded stuff. We had our
we call our family Christmas. We we got together uh
this past weekend and we got some content down for
for Christmas Day and the Tuesday after Christmas. Yeah, so
last live show of the year Tomorrow night and then

(01:37:49):
we have our to the Tuesday podcast. We'll be we
will be live on New Year's Night. But yeah, so
we won't be live on Christmas. We'll actually be taking
the week off and spending time with family to check
that out. Take three Wrestling, still plugging away there we
have Obviously we're gonna talk John Cena on that tomorrow night.

(01:38:10):
Mike actually flew up to DC for the show.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
So yeah, I saw that. I saw that. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
He gets that that that experience. And then Huddle Up Podcast,
we are on the on the the eve of the
college football playoff, so we pre You're not gonna watch right, Nope,
I'm not watching a single second of post.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
Boy you are boycounting it absolutely. If I asked make
a prediction, know who wins the whole thing? Who you
think wins it?

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Ohio State or Indiana, I'll unfortunately will probably end up
being Ohio State. It's gonna be hard to be a
second time. But those are those are your two best teams,
the teams in the SEC. George is the only other
team that even has a shot.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
In my opinion, I agree. I think it's a very week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
I think it's a very weak bracket and it got
weaker because they had to get a help him in.
But yeah, I'm not watching it. But the Huddle Up
Podcast we previewed that. We looked at the week sixteen games.
NFL season is winding up. We only have literally about
six weeks twfy of the huddle up season before we
go into the off season there.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
So then, yeah, my god quick. It has been a
actually one of the pastor seasons we think we ever had.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
It's been wild. I the other day at work, I said,
twenty twenty five has simultaneously been about forty years and
ten minutes long.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
It's insane, retally insane. So Jim, good job by you.
Merry Christmas, Thanks man too, Yeah, I mean yes, sir.
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