The 1990 Great American Bash | THE WRESTLING RETROSPECTIVE - Earnestly Speaking Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Welcome to another episode of the Wrestling Retrospective part of
the Earthly Podcast. I am your host, Ernest d J. Christian,
and we're doing actually something a little different from this episode.
We're actually going into the archives and doing a w
c W pay per view watch along here, and of
course I'm joined here. It is actually here to see

(00:53):
on the screen a mindless wrestling podcast takeover. Of course,
all three guys are here. You got, of course rober Genius.
You got DJ Minzer and you can't see his face though,
but he is there. You've got Jacent Howe here, all
three guys here from the Mountain of podcast fellas. What
is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Ain't no attention to the man behind the curtain? All right,
I'm just happy to be here either.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
You're shy.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You just don't want to be showing on TV today.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Like my laptop sucks. I'm not propping on by getting
my cell phone like that.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, I can relate man with with the the laptop
of wi fi issues. I got a ready laptop and
it's and it's still give me issues because the WiFi
has not a stronger street board here apparently, so I
don't know Anywait, DJ, what's up, buddy, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Man, thank you for having me. This just came together
last minute, literally probably three o'clock or so. Rob mentioned
that he was coming on with you. You said, you
gotta come on. We're doing w Man in a minute.
I love working with gotten together. Yeah, say, and it's
the whole thing. But I'm happy to be here. I'm
glad this came together.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, this was Rob. Rob's idea too, because like Rob,
Robin wanted to do this months ago, and we have
had fun time to do this watch along, and then
my wife is actually on an odd night working late tonight,
so I say, no, what I got got these?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
These somebody's posited now before I go to my vacation.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
And then football starts in a few weeks, so you know,
so when I said, Rob, I'm opening to do it tonight,
we want to do it, and then he said And
the funn thing was also when I told him that
we at the same time touch Eacheler asking about Jason
and and you coming on like simultaneous at the same time.
So it worked out really really well.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
So that's fun. That's fun.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, Rob again, how.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
You doing good Man?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Good and fly.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
We just finished like about ten minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I know you did it. Guys like you. Guys like
you just got to got some work in.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
So anyway, we got we put some work in today.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Absolutely, look forward Hitt the podcasts on Saturdays. It's still Saturdays, dude.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
As long as I get it submitted in time, it's
on Saturday. If I run late on submitting it, then
it maybe a little bit later.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
But yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I get it anyway. The Great America Blash, of course,
took place on July seventh, nineteen ninety, in Baltimore, Maryland,
at the Baltimo Arena. The attendance was fourteen thousand attendees.
The tagline is the New Revolution Rob. You were there, right,
We're not mistaken.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yes, I was one of the fourteen thousand people. And also,
in the kind of ironic thing of our chair Shot
buddies were also in the building.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Really yes, yeah, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah. Dave on Guard, the resident lawyer of the chair
Shot Radio Network, he was there that night too.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Oh wow, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
You know what, when we do watch alongs, I always
ask you nineteen ninety what the hell are you guys
doing in nineteen ninety? Did you watch the event, like
obviously Robbie was there, so obviously, Uh, but uh, it's
probably a jacent in the in DJ question, what were
you guys doing with you guys?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, Jason's party, I don't think was born yet?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Was he born yet?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I was tired?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Wait when was this?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
When was this? What?

Speaker 7 (03:59):
Joe right?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Ten years old?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
So so okay, it was July. So I was four.

Speaker 7 (04:08):
Uh so I was probably playing with Ghostbuster Joys.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, Climber, Yeah, yeah, I had the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Man, I had the Ecto one, I had all four,
I had everybody.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I didn't watch this show obviously. I was not a
w CW guy back then, although I have seen the
main event before, of course, which we're gonna cover. We're
gonna ask you, uh cover three matches here. Uh did
you watch the show live?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I did. I watched it live, and if I'm not mistaken,
I think the Minyles Wrestling podcast covered one of these
matches here just recently, didn't we, guys?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Hopefully maybe because when I hold up the peacock, this
was like three quarters of the way finished, I had
to rewind back to the beginning. Sorry, yeah, we.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Did a different Great American match.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
We didn't do this, Okay, Well, maybe I was looking
at this one for different reasons.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Then, well, we are going to watch a long three
matches tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Here We're gonna have, of course, the first match between
the Midnight Express Him Boys, then we have Doom versus
the Rocker Roll Express, and then the main event, of
course Sting versus Ric Flair for the the n w
A Champion of Courses. The some stats here I was
looking at here before we started. This was actually the
This event was the final event under an n w

(05:25):
A banner, as w DO succeeded from the end of
the way in January nine, nineteenninety one. So yeah, we're
we're often running here into w W t W. So
it wasn't n w A Worldy Championship was still at
this point, all right, guys, So we're gonna have two
time stamps here. The first one here for the first
match for the uh Min Express Southern Boys match will

(05:46):
be forty five minutes seconds. Then when we've done that match,
we'll winna fast forward all the way to two hours
and two minutes, twenty time and seconds for both the
Doom and rock Roll Express match. As long as as
well as the Stinging Flair match, which pretty much other
the last twoutch of the mat night un run out
the entire telecast from there. So, if you guys need
to pause this podcast to such a sense, set you

(06:08):
guys up, feel free. Otherwise, if you guys are ready
to give, wee can to get started. Once you're ready
on tellus ready to go. Ready, I'm ready, let's do
it in hold on in five four, three, two and one.
And if you back, if you go, if you go
backwards about ten more seconds, you'll see a guy who

(06:30):
will become the Undertaker in about four months.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
With a guy named you know who one day become
a wise man.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, Paul dangerously a favorite of the So here you go.
This is the Southern, the Southern white, the Southern boy,
Southern boys. Yeah, I remember set up these guys, Rob,
what do you know about these guys?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Okay, this is uh Steve Armstrong and traceys mothers and yeah,
coming out with a Confederate soldier give it with Confederate
flag stitching on the back.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
The bedazzled Confederate flag.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Nineteen ninety. You know.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's a different time.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
There you got. Of course, Uh Rob is probably you favorite,
second favorite tax team, a third favorite tack team of all time.
I think, like what it guys right for you, guys, Rob,
what does there think for you all time?

Speaker 5 (07:38):
I fel like a heel tag team look for me,
them in Cornett were the best heel tag team manager
combination ever. They're not my I mean, I'm my favorite
Tagnic all time World Warriors, but as far as I
mean a heel tag team manager combination with the guys

(08:01):
that they did the teamwork, they did the cheating and everything,
and they got to me with all taking jousting, they
were the best added.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well of course of Cornet, Like I said, But and
I told you guys, befort to pass that. Jim Cornett,
I know he's great. I know he's great, but a
lot of most of the work I know of him
was in w W in ninety three and beyond, and
at that point he wasn't a considered really a top guy,
a top manager in the company. He was middling. Like Vince,

(08:35):
I guess we said a thing. Whether some of these
guys have Wressel the promotions or promotions that he won,
the humble them like Dusse Rose is a legend but
if he didn't know Whodusty Rose was in in www
A probably to nineteen eight nine. You think this is
some regular like Joe Schmoe. Yeah, you've freedom same. The

(08:57):
same cornet applies here too. Honestly, the way he used
in the.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Vince really.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Go ahead, Rob, it was a very watered down version
of him in the w w B.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, Vince really didn't care where you were from. If
he didn't if if your character on TV didn't have
his fingerprint all over it, he didn't care.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, So what's the social contention? Excuse me, what's the
social contention here? How do we get to this batch?

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh? This is for the US Tag Team Titles champions
so the express.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
If you thought they had a lot of championships today,
they had a championship for everything back in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
TV Championship, Remember the TV Championship, Yeah, US Championship, there
was another court. It was another M ch champion had
also too.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
I mean at one point they had, I mean they
had like a whole lot of them because there was the.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
TV, the US, the because.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
A lot of the n WA territories were merging, you know,
during the late eighties to try and stay alive at
one point you know that. I mean, yeah, they had
like the US titles, and they had National Heavyweight title
and TV title and you know, and they eventually you know,
unified a bunch of them. But yeah, I mean and

(10:15):
the US US tag team titles. They would kind of
depending on how many tag teams they had, they would
kind of they would bring them back and you retire
them and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
They're a six man tag championship at one point. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Wow, here's the thing though, WW today is kind of
that way now, But I'm okay with it. It makes sense,
like make use of it because if you got to
blow the roster, you can make it. We can make
it make sense, you know, especially now with the women's
now titles now I wish w W.

Speaker 8 (10:50):
Yeah, I was gonna say to me fair like, I know,
things get like get slow. But I will say, even
with all of the titles that they have right now,
none of the titles have gone into like witness protection.
So to be fair to them, it is that they've

(11:13):
put their own all these spinning plates are their own
fault and they could always.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Balance them better.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
But like you long way to say, they don't have
this situation where all of a sudden they're like, oh, yeah,
this title came back out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Did you alis have to say?

Speaker 4 (11:31):
No, I always wanted WWE to implement some type of
TV title. I was always a big fan of the
TV title because those were regular, guaranteed championship matches on TV,
whereas like your bigger championships didn't always get defended on
TV as we see, you know today with you know,
even just the Intercontinental and the US Championship. US Championship

(11:53):
can go a month or two not even being on
a premium live event. Well, the TV Championship, you were
guaranteed a championship match on TV, and I always thought
that was kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
True, but I could argue that all that's still a
booking issue. You can make it a priority. If you
just make it a priority, just book it. Yeah, you know,
I hate what I say here back in the day,
like a couple years ago, Oh an icy title, like
it is making any sense? Well, if you book matches
to make it a priority, we will be invested, come
hell of high water.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I was always a bigger fan of the not that
I wasn't a fan of the World champions or anything
like that. But I always loved the mid Card and
inter Countow Championship was one of my favorite titles at
one point.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I mean, I will say the last couple of years,
though the Icy titles has gotten more prominence. Again, I
think Goo Thro has a lot to do with that. Yeah,
there's certainly added more spice, and I think obviously Dominic's
ring currently as champion has been really, really good.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
So I think for the first time in about Geez
since the mis.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Held it probably years ago, is actually actually who's like
a priority again?

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Well, I mean just it comes down the I mean,
these titles coming down to who you put them on,
and it's just you know, if you put them on
somebody who's not on TV to try and put them
get them on TV, that usually backfire and better when
you put them on somebody who was already there.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
That's very true. That's very true.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
And I mean, just man, Bobby was one of the
best Bobby eating I mean.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Bobby eating Bobby eat, Bobby eating most amazing.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, he's one of those guys.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Look, obviously I don't know, I don't know a lot
of his work.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Obviously I've seen his work, and if you were a
wrestling diehard, you know he is and his work is
definitely up there.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I just did a thing here where he had I
don't know whether it was Tracy Smothers or the other
one in the corner, but he kind of put his
elbow in his face and then he smacked his hand,
kind of driving the elbow into the guy's face. Bobby
Eaton was a master at just subtle little things. They
made it feel more real.

Speaker 9 (14:14):
This style, by the way, it's like, not enough guys
now work this style where yes they are wrestling and
they're using pro wrestling moves, but every it's not even
a snug, but everything feels like it's.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
A bar fight. Yeah, he was right, and again his
roster back.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well anow, they're doing karate, but hey, you know they
give karate and bar fights too, so hey, it all kinds.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
These are two drunk guys here exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, so accurate.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Because stan Lane was like he was I think I
don't know what degree he was, but I think he
was like a man.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, I think he was. And they called him the
man with the educated feet.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah, well not too educated.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, we got a.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Fan of the I've seen a lot of super kicks here.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I about to ask you we got a fan of
the fans of the high rise entrance ramps.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
I heard they were not fun.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
It was unique for for for the for the w
c W to have that because they were doing it. No,
w W did do it for for certain shows, but
I was a fan of it.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I would always love to be on the ground.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, I mean, I've heard some guys say they weren't
they weren't fun to land on.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
They're probably hard. Yeah, all right, that's.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Some order here.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Here we go, now cooking back to a wrestling match
instead of a bar fight fight.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
You know, for a w c W uh show, there
was a really big crowd because they weren't They weren't
drawing the w WE numbers even back then like the
other people. That was a lot. This is fourteen thousand.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Rob Yeah, because this is this has been a down
you know, they've been down for a couple of years. Yeah,
but they still had some cities that they were good in.
This is one of them.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Well, like we talked pro wrestling in general, was the
wave had crested by eighty nine early ninety you know
we're about to enter in the next couple of years
of kind of an abysmal time for the business in general.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh yeah, and by and then five years later, I
think Robbielud his last night on our show ninety five
was bad for everybody. Not that's a we, but everybody
was bad. Yeah. If you took WCW's roster again, WWE's

(17:02):
roster at this night frame in nineteen ninety, it's actually
on par. Some may argue better when you look at
the work rate guys. Look w W at this point,
I'd gotten better with the work rate guys in the roster.
By NXT to ninety you had the perfect you had
the the keviyro Eric will be there run this time
you had a couple of guys that were doing work
rate stuff obviously at this point. But these w's you know,

(17:28):
roster you know, in terms of like work rate guys
on par W.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, there's a time period in WCW and I usually
say ninety two to ninety six, but I would probably
argue ninety to ninety six. I would stack that roster
up against any roster any era.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh well, in terms of just.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Overall talent and work rate, absolutely. WCW had some some
work courses and there were times where, even though I
was a huge WWE fan, I ford watching WCW matches
because they had more work rate talent, Like this match
is really good. It really is with with you know,

(18:13):
not that you know, the Southern Boys became a big thing,
but this match in a bubble is excellent.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
The two guys I know Smothered, I know him, I
know his name, I know who he is, but I
didn't know them as a.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Group like I've heard in the past. But they didn't
stand out in the same way.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Nineteen ninety this gimmick was had a very kid.

Speaker 7 (18:39):
I recognized that just the fighting. That's part of the
reason that I like WCW more. The fighting on WCW
was better, as I would put it, you know, as
a ten to fourteen year old boy.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
WSW never had a talent problem ever. And I can argue,
and I can Jason, I can argue at any point
of their existence, their talent was on Powler w W
they were just poorly run.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah yeah, basically were poorly runs a business and oh
and districting the referee and staying through gala top rope what.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
And yeah, that's when Bill Watson charge.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
But they always had the rule if you throw gal
top rope, it was qualification. Okay, yeah, I mean because
it was just it was a way to get out
of title matches, you know with DQ finishes and whatnot.
So okay, yeah, And and corner with the racket just
nailed thee asshole.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Amazing.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
It's just good old Southern wrestling fun.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
And now now now he's got not the referee, still
doing stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
And wait, the corner, I think I missed that either
he did, he's doing it.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Now he get the other guy too. Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yes, fucking coordinate dude. I do appreciate him now. His
his wrestling mind is second to none.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, you can think whatever you want to him as
a person, but I could listen to him talk the
business end of things all day any day.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Oh me too, Me too.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I just like his honesty more thing else.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
He's very honest. He's like he's like heart in that way,
like he made like people Aboutrett Hart. Oh he whinds complains,
but I never get the feeling b heart lying either.
I like, I think he's saying it's truthful. He just
he just just hate hearing over and over again. Yeah, same,
same with Cornet. I think Cornet falls Natine category two.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
All right, I'll tell you what he thinks is somebody,
no matter what.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Think about he's really he's very open about everything.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's like, yeah, fu.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
And now that.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Kicking roddy moves there, bar God nineteen ninety was a
fun ye huh.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
You don't see that double step on the guy's eyes.
You don't see people do that very often anymore.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
No, no, not enough.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
A lot of moves here that you don't see much anymore.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Not to kick the kick with the slap to the
to the leg though that Yeah, I just remember that
it is that happened back then too.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, that's not a new thing.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, I thought it was just this.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
This has been a super kick party.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah. And now take no young bucks oh up in
the top row.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
And like the way he seld, the way he sells
the landing had hurt him.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yep, that's a big move. That's the big emotional part
of the match. Bobby Eaton knew that man. Bobby Eaton
knew how to work that ship.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, because because you jump off the top rope and
land on somebody like that, you're gonna hurt yourself too,
and so he sold him being hurt by doing the
move just as much as the other guy was.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I'm wanting to match a lot. I really am, like.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
As a wrestler, this is excellent, This is awesome. This
pipe stars for me. I'm sorry because you're getting everything.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
You're getting wrestling and getting bar fires are getting You're
getting you know, the you know Cornett doing his cornet thing.
You get.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Now we're cheering for the Midnight Express in the building.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
We are.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
The crowd was popping for him. Yeah, crowd knows what's up.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, w c W had a lot of potential. They
could have been around a long time and did it
just fully run.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
There's a part of me that wishes Eric Bischoff could
have bought it out from under Vince McMahon when Vince
bought it, because apparently that was almost a thing too.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah, it's just when they when the TV got canceled,
then it didn't have any value anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah once right, David, there was nothing too Oh nope,
kick out.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
But I think Eric could have shopped it around to someone.
Well does Eric is a TV guy first and foremost?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Wait, wasn't that the big bang idea that he had
to bring it back. Hm. Maybe, Yeah. I read the
book on that actually, uh a year ago. On the DOW,
I've seen numerous doc memories. It's all consistent. Ultimately, the

(24:03):
reason why it failed was because there's a combination of
things that I want is there's not there's no one person.
It's a combination of things. And then the fact that
Weston Turner sold his share of the company and the
people in the shareholders have nothing to wrestling, combined with
the load of contracts everything else happened. It was just

(24:24):
a avalanche of things that made this company go under
because this company could have survived if it if it
had those things, if.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
They really boiled down to Turner got out of the
wrestling business exactly.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That that really, that's that's really it. It was not
in the end, it was not w c B fault.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Right, And those are some pretty just punches was throwing there.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, Yeah, these guys have got some good, some good
working punches. Although I'm watching some of the tags in
and out. F TR would be having a stroke right
now because nobody's using the tag rope. There's a whole
bunch of pins being broken up yep. FTR would be
having a stroke right now.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
And Cornette too. Also, he's he's active, he's he's involved. Yeah,
the ring, he's coaching these guys.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Uh, going for a top rope heart attack? Is that
what we're doing here?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's a drop.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Where's the referee? There's a man down, he's pinned. Go count.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I know he's going on.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Look he's he's done, Bobby, referee missed it.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I start wrestling. References are the worst in the history.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Of sports and sports entertainment.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
There's a rocket launcher that's over.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Great match, got the sholder, got out, got the shoulder up?
Another another.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
What still to you know?

Speaker 4 (26:09):
What we're done with you? Ref We're about to have
a ref ball.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh package.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Stand broke it up?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
What a match, dude.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
And that's another thing, like when you break up the
pin kick the guy, don't just land on him and yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Kicking the head there we go boom.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
This is this is just completely falling apart here. It's
a mess.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
But his name though, but it's organized chaos.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
It is going on because it all makes sense.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yes, part of story. It's storytelling.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
It's this is like.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
And and we were cheering for.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
The Yes, we were because I really didn't give a
crap about Southern boys.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
And nobody really did. They weren't really over like that.
I mean they weren't.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Doesn't ask you that well.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
They weren't mean they were a good take, but they
weren't really over.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
And the young stallions of.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Pretty much.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
But and all that being said, they were both incredible workers, incredible.
But yeah, that that team never had any legs.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I wonder what they did. Wont they did anything for themselves?
Cornet man, All right, that's quite fast forward. Now all
the listeners here. We just finished the first match. All right,
the second match, As I just said, we're gonna go
two hours, uh two minutes and twenty seven seconds of guys,
even need to pause it, feel free to pause the podcast.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
We'll do it some real time in the meantime.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
So I am about to be there in about two seconds.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Have to wait for an ad because I got the
poor people peacock.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Well you have.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
Well, I have the one that's way cheaper through my
cable so and I have one big fat cablevill so
whatever channel.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
You have a cable Oh yeah, every.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Channel, man, I'm I'm old school as.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Hell, Rob Robert Jays. I saw a number about a
week ago, maybe a couple of days ago that for
the first time streaming, there are more people streaming than
people have cable aland I.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Am proud to be still okay, I still have my cable.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm not judging each other. I am not judging you.
I'm not at all. I am not judging at all,
because it is getting to the point now where cable
is probably cheaper. However, I've always said when it comes
to streaming, the thing is is the real value is
you have more control about the stuff you're watching, and

(28:48):
you want to get cancel it. Like when you have cable,
you're paying for channels that you don't think, you don't know,
you're not gonna use.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
You know, you realize it, which you're paying for channels.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Like if you if you get a bundle that has
lifetime and a couple of stations you don't care about,
you know, but it comes to that bundle you pay for,
you're paid for that you know, you don't even know it.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
They've got me an advice now, because the channel that
has the Celtics is either in the absolute basic, basic,
basic package or the Ultimate package.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
So because I don't have cable, I do pay for
the Miami Heat to watch their games. I pay twenty
all the month.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
But yeah, and still even if I like watching just sports.
So if you just like watching sports, man, once you
have cable, because then then if you pay for a
decent package, all the streaming stuff gets included or your
bill gets footed by them for like half the cost.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
That's where we're at. So it's like.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
It all comes out in the wash, and I'm I'm
still I'm still a channel surfer, man.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I just want to watch whatever's on.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
My kids have no clue what Chel Swerving is whatsoever.
They're so young there. Yeah, like like on top.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Of here it's a VCR right for example, somewhere up here.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
My son asked, what the hell is that?

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Dad?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
So terrible?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Wait when you're old, try that terrible.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
Yeah, but we we opened this the episode we just
did with you know, the the Midnight Midnight Express a
well just close its doors on its fifty six K
dialog service.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, crazy right, I want to know. I know who's
the customer that still has that.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
I bet there, I honestly, I bet they're out there
some places in the south, some places in the southwest, Midwest.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Like, I bet you guys all sat two hours, two minutes,
twenty five minutes. Time are getting my guys on the podcast.
We're gonna get started in five for three, two and one.
All right, we got to see, uh the next match,
which is Doom versus the Rock and Rock Express. I've

(31:10):
crowded it by way, Rock Rob, Where where were you
sitting that by way to this?

Speaker 5 (31:15):
I was like, actually, I was sitting on the camera size,
so I never I didn't you know, like I was
sitting near the camera, so you won't seen me anywhere
here in this.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I was going to see any chance in the crowd,
any chance.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Man.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Look at that PI Room Pals.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Nineteen ninety baby like Sparklers.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
I had to save him money.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Was Bill Watson run the company this time? Or was
it was?

Speaker 5 (31:48):
It was before him. One funny fact about the show
that the Iron Chic was in one of the earlier matches.
He was and they famously somebody for he was on
the pay and he went got paid a whole year
without having to wrestle. What yes, true story?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
That is crazy?

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Look at these meaty men yeah, look at this was
ship back in the day.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Man, you're talking about Butcher Read right there in the front.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Butcher Red was a very very prominent mid carter in
w A couple years before this you have Ron Simmons
who went by way for the state. Hell yeah, and
then he'll end up becoming world champion for black Champion
ever two years later and then the future Paruk.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Which are these the world tag team championships? Yes, it's
now like the mid Southern state back tag team a
little championship.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
I don't know. These are the world tag Okay?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Do Moore heels?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
There were heels?

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yes, tell you Long, that's be the clue.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I guess right, typical ninety ninety black man, Teddy Long,
someone sold Butcher Reads, not nineteen eighty five anymore.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Jerry Coles, I'll style this point.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Uh yeah, thank god I never got into that.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
You have, Jerry, girl.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
My parents were not letting me do that.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Hell no, did you want one? No?

Speaker 5 (33:43):
I didn't want one, and if I did, they wouldn't
have let me. So you know.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
This massively the Jerry the Mohawks, Oh.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Look man, no, no, Jerry curls were not popular and Maryland.
You would got laughed at.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Was there like a West coast thing?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
What was? It?

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Was a big time West Coast thing. Them dudes would
go to the hair dresser and sit under like a
lamp for hours.

Speaker 9 (34:04):
And you know, yeah, Rob, I don't feel like that
was happening in a master chief petty Officer, Rob Robber's house.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
No, no, yeah, Chief Bonnett was not gonna let.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
No, sir, No.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
I mean look, I got a high top faith once
and it lasted about a month.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I had a gumby one time.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
A yeah, yeah, yeah, it lasted about a month. And
then and they're like, no, dude, you're not doing this.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Wow, look at them. Just Ron Simmons. I'm sorry that
dude Simons.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
He just played football too in Cloria State, so he
was fresh off playing football. Yeah, I had a I
had a flaptop back then. I had a gumby back then.
I had a fade back then. Back then. So I

(35:11):
had a lot of hair issues.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
My favorite.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
If ninety I probably had a bowl cut.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
How one nineteen ninety I was in the process of
trying to grow my hair long. And then in ninety
by the way, yeah, rip to my hair. And then
in ninety three, I very briefly rocked a mullet. Who
I had I had a mullet in about ninety three.

(35:51):
I took one look at it. After I got it cut,
I'm like, no, I'm growing this shit back out.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
In ninety three. Yeah, brought the multi hired like fucking
nine years ago and used to Florida.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Dude, all people doing bolls and I was Canada.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
He lives in Florida.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I understand that.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Well, the more the moment came and never went.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I forgot. We have this iPod. You're right, I've been
forceds nineteen eighty nine, so I should no better.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
Yeah, here in Florida if we all want to go,
but down there in Florida.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
In Florida, we hold onto ship pal.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Florida and Canada the only two places that they are dated.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
A great work, right match?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Oh yeah, this is hard. This is some meaty man
bumping meat and the Rock and Roll Express.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah never right ever right.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Never uh technically not under their contract. But they wrestled
a Smoky Mountain match on was its Biber series rob
I think so, yeah, yeah, they they wrestled for the
Smoky Mountain tag Championships against the heavenly bodies.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Like Vince had a lot of issues with people out
if he didn't have any if he didn't have any
uh control or say and rooming the stars he had,
he had no time for people. People the new Russell
k he brought in, he had no time for them. Yeah,
you bring him in because they knew he needed needed bodies,
but they wouldn't weren't used the best of the ability

(37:33):
m H. I mean outside Jake Outsid, maybe Jake and Rude,
you know, of course a tenure of events. But by
the time w W was cooking in the late eighties,
like oh Rick Clair, who gets a ship?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Rickclaire, who's Ric Flair?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Well, even take Rick Rud, Rick Rud coming from w CW,
that wasn't the same Rick rud that left w C
because or nw A, I should say that guy was
teaming with Manny Fernandez at one point.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Yeah, you know, and then so it wasn't like he
go ahead because he was only kind of leaning lean,
barely leaning into the whole man kind of thing, and
Vince turned it off to Hi Leven.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, this just didn't give a fuck, give a fuck. No,
he didn't use Rude very well in those three years.
We discussed on a couple of episodes back on some
of our watch along with Rude.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Like for a small short tenure, Rude had it three
for three years.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
He got a lot of ship in three years. He
did a lot in three years.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
It feels like longer, much longer.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Yeah, Well, because like with Vince, I mean, if he
didn't like it, if you had already established gimmick, he
didn't like it. But if you just had like the
kind of seeds of something like Rude, they didn't really
go all the way into the ladies man things until
he got there. And then you know, Jake wasn't carrying
around snake before he got there. But you know, Vince

(39:00):
turned out all yet to eleven. I mean he didn't
mind that. But if you could, if you had already
a state in this gimmick that you didn't want to change,
then he didn't really care for that, because like the
three birds, they were there for like a day.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Well, you take a guy like take a guy like Jyd,
like Vince had no real plans for Jyd, and at
that point Jyd was kind of washed anyway. So it
doesn't hurt you to just let him do whatever his
gimmick is now. Even that though, they turned up to eleven.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, and Joy was over dy. I can argue Joy
d after hold him was the biggest baby pace in
the company for a couple of years at one point. Absolutely, Yeah,
but he was past his prime that point. He was
way past over the hill at that point.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Oh wait, these guys doom. If they stayed together a
couple of years, we'll talk about these guys at all time,
all time great tag team.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah, it's just they had they they had a short
run together.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Don't don't even know what two years, a year and
a half of that, it was like a year.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
And a half or something. They if they did they'd
stayed together for like five years, yeah, yeah, then we'd
be talking about them in a whole different conversation.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, which read was a good wrestled which was a
pretty good but was a unit though.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Man like the size of that dude.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, he just passed away couple years ago.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, I gotta say this again.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
What I like about the w CW it's just hard fighting,
but it's wrestling.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, if you want, if you want work rate matches,
w it is a place to be. The problem is
though in the late eighties early nineties, most people want
us a mixture of both. They want U sports entertainment.
And by the time we got to the late eighties
when the WW got better at the work right stuff.
So why they were dominating the uh, the all the

(40:54):
territories at that point.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Yeah, and again like in w CW, just it was
poorly run, like.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
The run.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Like I would quit. We should do that one day,
do a draft one time. I'm drafting, uh, drafting poor
wrestling from the from from expensive years based on what
they were doing at that time. And I'll tell you
what if if you did like say that nineteenywo nineteeny three,
I chuck on my list with probably wrestlers. Probably is

(41:32):
Ricky the smaller one, Ricky Moore.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Well it's funny because like they're not neither one of
them are, like back today saying they're not small guys, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Well they are now. I saw them wrestle in a
New Japan show a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Now, yeah, I mean back then, back in this time,
Savage considered a small ranking Savage, which ridiculous. Well, yeah,
but it was all based on what the I mean
I mean you had freaking andre and giant and big guys.

(42:10):
You know, it makes sense why our Savage would be
would be anyway by today's standards.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Yeah, like arn Anderson was like a medium sized guy
back then. Yeah, absolutely, he would not be a medium
sized guy today.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
No.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Question. Today he just bringing the glock.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
So and now that's that's whipped.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Oh good match here by way too.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yeah, this is an actually match. I'm kind of quiet
because I'm actually watching this. It's been a long long
time since I've seen this show.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I'm actually locked in. I'm actually locked in. His metro
now Drop on the middle was a middle rob I
think one.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on the middle route.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Called Savage.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
A long hold.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
You said I missed these I missed these things until
he's wrestling. Yeah, well way, Uh did you guys see
on real yet? I know, I know DJs?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
You finished it right?

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:22):
I finished it?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Oh, Jason, you see it on real yet? On Netflix?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I'll get to it.

Speaker 7 (43:27):
I'm not that interesting because it seemed Rob give give
you your summary of it, and that's why I'm not interested.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
It's a lot like the twenty four documentaries and the
one thing that the one thing that was supposed to
be like the peak backstage, the writer's room stuff seems
like it's at work. That was my assessment of it.

Speaker 7 (43:51):
And everything I've seen in the previews and trailers and
whatnot of the writer's room stuff, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Well, they all know that there's a camera in their face,
don't they?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
But I meant not, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Well, and I'm sorry nobody that that did not go down.

Speaker 7 (44:09):
Like like yep, see him Bunker Sena, Yep, ce M
Bunker Sina and then finally one Brave Soul Michael ps Hays,
what about jay Uso? Ooh, Jade's got hot, guys, jay
Uso was in pencil six months ago.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Stop it.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like a lot of
things I'll played up to the camera to some degree.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
I mean, like like the stuff I've watched of it,
like the personal story stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, like everything about Chelsea.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Sorry to interrup, but like again, everything I've seen the stuff,
I do want to watch it because of the stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, I dude, And to be honest, you her story
is actually probably one of the most compelling of the
entire series hers even with punk like the punk stuff.
To me, it made more sense to me now because
the whole because when I when I heard for years
that his goal was he was so mad he can
made a WrestleMania and that's one of the reasons why
you love the company fourteen. I didn't. It didn't really

(45:11):
impact me because I wasn't watching the product back then
because I was out. So when I heard that, to me,
it's I'm like, what the fuck you? Okay, So, okay,
see made rest Mania, but you got to wrestle with Undertaker?
The fuck are you doing? You know what I mean? So,
but it made sense when when I saw watch the
Unreal and watch the Opona couple episodes, you know, it
made sense. It was that was definitely not a work,

(45:33):
that was definitely him really wanting it made he really
wanted to do that was what Those are real tiers, dude,
those are real fucking tears, right.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
And I like the backstage stuff like w W twenty
four because that, like guys.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
We all know it to work.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
So letting us backstage isn't some big ass secret or
something like that, and showing us that like the Fiend
is a mask, well, okay, we can all play pretend.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
And we can all like play because we all.

Speaker 11 (46:02):
Watch our bind the scenes documentaries about Harry Potter and
all and all this stuff how they made those movies,
so it's all fair.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
We don't need to know how the fiction comes about,
and it just it's just it's just weird. Like I
like how they avoid talking about this stuff in the
old documentaries in twenty like they don't. Rowan Rains will
just react to losing to brock Lessner. He won't go

(46:31):
out there and be like, well, I'm about to lose
to brock Lesner, so.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Well, let's see what happens. Guys.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yeah, somehow, though strangely it doesn't ruin Christmas.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Okay, you know, no ID is a bridge too far.

Speaker 7 (46:53):
The Writer's Room is a bridge too far in any case,
even if they did play it straight. But it's also
doubly insulting now that they're very clearly faken't It's like, oh, really,
the one thing that you thought you were going to
really let us in, you were like, no, we're actually
gonna double fake you.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Actually, I kind of I kind of have to tip
my hat, you know, k Fave is still alive, baby.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I will say, though the stuff with jau So especially,
and the concern about him him blowing up and stuff
and you know, being to take that mantle that did
that seemed like the real thing because obviously come months
after Mania, so I thought, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I'm sure it was something that happened, but they played
it up for the cameras.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah, right, possible because I'm sure they.

Speaker 7 (47:40):
All had every confidence like yeah, you got blown up,
that's okay, Like just work on your cardio and keep going,
like all right, it is what it is, like bene
a certain point, the drama of it, Hey, what is
what it is?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
That's why we like this stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Well I got it. I got it. I really get it.
And you know, someone, I mean all three for us
really old school guys. I it is weird sometimes to
have some access to these people now, and fame now
a thing where like it's it's open now every it's
open seasons, like seeing Bianca and Uh and Rhea read

(48:19):
each other before and after the match. You know, it's weird. Yeah,
I'm pretty used to it. You know, we're still get
used because I'm I'm pretty old. Were like I bought
in hold and hat each other a little while, you know,
I'm bought in, like, you know, you know what's it's fake.
They don't. They do a good job of masking that,
you know, you buy into the whole storyline.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
And and well, but also they they're doing this in
the same era that they're blatantly telling you we are
going to lie to your faces. Yeah, because they will
of all the stuff. They just pulled those Seth rollins.
He got injured quote unquote on NBC.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
They went full, full, full force head with this thing.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
They did so and.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
So, I mean even and so when they're showing.

Speaker 7 (49:08):
How they picked the winners, I'm like, all right, don't
play in my face like this.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
It's made up. I love when it's made up. You don't.
You don't have to tell me totally how the sausage
is made.

Speaker 7 (49:20):
I just got done telling you that you guys lying
to me about Seth Ballins was one of.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
The coolest things you've done in twenty years.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
So yeah, I will say.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
That the Doom retained their championships.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Here, sorry to go on a die tribe, tell.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
You long got blove a little bit.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
He had a long bump.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Any good match needs on.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
You'll flowers enough though, like he was like he won't
you won't get mentioned among the greatest managers.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
But he's flying shoulder tackle that looked stiff as hell.
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
And there's the great one, the nature boy. Ric Flair
is one of one. Man, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
Yeah, yep, okay, set again.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Outlived the Hulks.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Would you could you believe.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
That did that happen?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Ric Flair is our odsboard. He's he's wrestling as the
Osbourne but actually years ago.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
And it will be the first one to tell you that.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
And yeah, Rick Flair didn't have the cultural impact until
much later. Rick Flair was simply just a guy that
was in you know, the territories and then he had
a little stints, a couple of stints at we but his.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Impact didn't really hit until much later.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, like outside the Bubble Court is a little good
old j R. I was like a little boy, man,
I was.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I was.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
That was a right age because Rick Flair was just
he was the coolest thing to ever cool.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah, big as microphones, man, look at that ship. Nineteen
ninety It was interesting time, man. So nineteen ninety in
real in real time at the time Warriors champion Hogan.

(51:52):
Hogan went away for a little while to do Uh,
mister nanny, I think it was obviously w W when
I when I see this match in the second player
in the Sting.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
And Jason, we owe you this one because we made you,
made you watching Vader a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yes, Oh, I was, dude, I was all prepared.

Speaker 12 (52:18):
I had a promo ready to call on you assholes,
because as I just got done putting over putting over
Rick Flair, Sting was my original guy, like I am
a little Stinger at heart.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
They said, all they.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
God, yeah, they sure did.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
And I told you guys on the fly, right now,
give me a mount Rushmore. W W.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Who's your mount rush.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
We just talking, I mean just what we're just talking
about from when they became, when they were just w
W and.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Not on right eight eight w c W.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Nitro put it that way.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Okay, he reformed that. I thought before that, because all right,
it's not cheating a little bit. But you only get
six years on that.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Not true.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
So we go we take it back this far to
nineteen ninety starting here. Okay, Sting is definitely yeah Mount Rushmore. Yes,
he's like the sting of the guy who never left. Yep,
you know he left. He never jumped ship, he stayed.

Speaker 13 (53:29):
Yeah, he paid off their biggest storyline, Yeah, Flair, I
mean Claire and b n w O.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
He paid them both off. So yeah, and now.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
One story because things face McClair at uh February paper
and he blew his knee out and get.

Speaker 6 (53:58):
And so he.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
Couldn't come back until here, and I think was running
the thing. They you know, Lex Luger filled in form
on that show and they and I think Flair was
supposed to lose to him at that show. You know,
Lex Luger filled in form, and they wanted to rip
to lose the Luger instead since bug Field in for him,
he said no because he is already basically promised thing

(54:22):
that he was gonna drop the titler.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
So it's funny because Rick was the opposite of Hogan
when it came to stuff like that. Rick had no
problem dropping, you know, dropping the titles. Somebody at the
time was right and everything.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
So my my, my mount Watch Moore is the frustrated
easy it's sting Flair Hogan all the rep okay for
gast icy.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Yeah, because you could go I mean you could, I
mean you could say. I mean you could put Lex Luger,
you could put Diamond Dallas Page, you could Goldberg.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I think Goldberg has said a very good case because
Goldberg actually you know, yeah, short run. But he was
the last boom they had. He was the last star
they created.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Yeah. The oh he's been handcuffed to who who you
you know? In love is Giant Gonzales?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Terrible acting here?

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Oh well look look incredible acting Giant Gonzales. He may
he may be if if you've had a contest for
like the worst wrestler, he's a he's a finalist. Well question,
oh man terrible?

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Was this a lumber that match?

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Well was not good? No, no natural ability.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Yeah, well Sting has his guys out there to there
at ringside, the counter of the horsemen.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
If they try to interfere, You got the other Who's
who's there?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
You got the Stig of Brothers, you got Junkyard Dog,
you got poor worn dogs.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Out there.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
I think that's it.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
It's almost a lumberjack match.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I remember looking at the Flair thinking, how the fuck
is this guy winning all these championships looking like that?
Like blonde here flabby stomach, fucking always getting beat up,
but always finally win to win matches. I don't understand
how this guy is winning the seventh or sixteen time
world champion. I well, I.

Speaker 13 (56:44):
Don't know what's the dirtiest player in the game.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah, that's that's thing that I can understand. That ship
like the fuck this guy.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Well, because the other thing is like when it was
time to actually wrestle, he was really damn good.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
He really was.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Because I'm like, my dad didn't think much of him
and he saw some steamboat matches and he was like,
oh I didn't I didn't know he could rustle that good.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, he had good matches too, man, he's actually his
mass His matches are really good.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
The chops and.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
All that stuff.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
For example, that and think no Sale.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
He was so good at no Cell. He was so
good at that stuffing. Man. Ah, I just love when
when when him and Savage got at it, and not
necessarily the w E run in ninety two, but the
one in ninety five w W savages to beat his

(57:50):
ass and you have to find a way to beat
to win. Almost every time, other than a few times,
I feel like Flair one, what was most those matches
because Flair always want a way to get out of things.
He'll take all the bumps, but yeah, he'll still get
come out with a win.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Sting had such a good drop kick.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
Yeah, and the yeah king of the no cell man. Yes,
even even with like I'm putting among the Giants and.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
All that, like he says that, he says it like Superman.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I always wonderful if he swaps Sting and Warrior companies
at his time.

Speaker 5 (58:38):
Well, it's funny because I'm cornical people. He talked about
that on his podcast one time. Yeah, he basically thought
that Warrior did they the NBA guys would run him
in the locker room.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
A Warrior wouldn't lasted a year.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
What if Sting was If Sting was in Warriors spot
at this time, and I say Sting won the title
in ninety against Hogan, I.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
Think I think Sting would have done He would have
done what they hoped Warrior I would have stuck. I
think I think Sting would have definitely stuck the landing
if he had been in the Warriors place at nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Yeah, because he's that absolutely, Because the things you guys
say that Warrior did didn't know the things that Warrior
couldn't do as the guy, like you know, marketing and
pr and going on talk shows and stuff. Sting can
do that.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Yeah, but yeah, he wouldn't lasted in the NBA locker
room they had run him out of there.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
I actually think Sting being World Champions in WE in
nineteen ninety would actually shorten who Coomania woul shortened it
by two three years.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
O.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
I think he would have delivered and they would have
stuck with them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, he might have been next. You might have been
been the next guy. Yeah, and who knows. Maybe looking
at Sting as a mount Rushmore candy in w W history,
who knows, I mean, look at it, think about.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
It well as it is, look I mean look, I mean, no,
as it is, he's just a Mount rushmoren wrestling history,
like between.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
His aw run w CW, and yes, he lost most
of his stuff in WWE, but it's still amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
And honestly, I'm I mean, well, there's no w c
W Hall of Fame, but if there was, going too
obviously be in it. And when they ever get around
to do an a w Hall of Fame he'll go
in and and I think he's already in the TNA
Hall of Fame. If he's not, he should be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
So I mean that's oh yeah, TNA. I completely skipped
over that, and I completely shouldn't have so well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
I mean we're looking at like multi company careers like
I mean he I mean, he's top two or three.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Tony's Cowardy should put the belt on him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
That's what I say too. Also, like if you tell
somebody that over the Rock and Austin no Sting, you
know the longevity factor umber one. No, there's like there's
a case that if I did a.

Speaker 9 (01:01:17):
Mountains all times, I'm champion in every company on television.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I mean it goes Hogan obviously, Sting has been there,
and then Flair.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Because he's present in w wd W excuse me, w
w E.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
This is where I see because now now because someone
like Undertaker might be might be a can't even that
now a longevity and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Stinging one of the best baby faces, like over the
last thirty years.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I would argue the best. Yeah, he stayed true to
who he was all the way through. He never turned heel. Ever,
they thought you don't turn heel to n W ol
and that never happened.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Yeah, and then and then I mean the way that
they turned that around, like yeah, he was under suspicion
for about a month and then you know, and then
the way he just walked out on those guys that
y'all don't trust me, well, fuck y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
A year.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Such a great story that they fucked up at stark Man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
My god, oh it was because I mean, if you like,
a couple of years ago, I watched that that war
game is the one where he walked out, and that
was such a I mean, the predy told the story
in that match.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Was watched that again, bro Rob, I like, I watched
it in real time. But stuff in ninety se ninety
eight really, honestly, you know, I like some of the
stuff they were doing. I didn't really. I haven't really
watched him back much in recent years, so some things
I've forgotten little things anyway, not the big stuff, the
little things.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
And I see flares working on me now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Yeah, if if we do poor wrestling with Matt Rush wore,
Sting's on there, Hogan's on there, players on there, I
can't argue the Undertaker. Maybe it should be on there
is also do because that because that's that's how longevity
becomes really a priority, because astin, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
You really have to come up with some like a
list of criteria. So like when we're talking all time,
you know, wrestling, you gotta set the criteria and then
go from there because you know, obviously people are gonna
pick their favorites.

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
Yeah, and then also like what you're cut off point, Yeah,
because like, look, none of us can, I mean, none
of us can incredibly talk about run Sanda Martino.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
I mean no, I mean the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Best, Look, the best I could have ever done is
just ask my I could have asked my dad. He
was at Bruno was the best?

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
Shut up?

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Okay, a source you've got, Yeah, I mean that's that's
basically that's what he would say, Brunn all these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Yeah, I mean that would be correct about that for
a record.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
For for my.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Personal perspective, my number four would be Dusty Rhodes. That's
not a bad pick either, mainly because one he was
my first baby.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Faith. Huh, that's not a bad pick either.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
I'm sorry because that's not a bad pick either.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
No, And you know, and but my criteria would be
his influence on the industry, which is still being felt today. Absolutely,
Dusty's legacy makes him a makes him a mount rushmore
candidate for me, even more than his ring work or
his ring career.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
His involvement in wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
Yeah, using the ropes to figure four, I mean, then you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Run it out with uh. The fourth will probably be
Roman Reigns.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
No no, no seris if you look at I mean,
as far as just influence on people around him, I
mean yeah, I mean, Roman Reigns has turned so many
of those guys into the main event level guys, guys
getting title shots.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Oh, he's the guy of this generation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
I agree at minimum what I will say about Roman
rings though, he needs one more run before we really
have that conversation, Like if he has a little run
post Paul Hayman where it's like there's a level j one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Thousand, three hundred sixteen days, be quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
You know, the biggest fucking Roman I thought.

Speaker 14 (01:05:51):
I thought one thousand, three hundred sixteen days the fourth
longest at the look, we didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
He never needs to touch that title again.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
Okay. When it comes to Roman reign fans, I'm bat
I'm Robbin, and Jason's Batman.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Okay, I know I can tell okay, look, I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
I can beat look, I can beat up the henchman.
But when the joker comes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Just.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Roman to him is like labored.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Okay, you know it's but in all seriousness, man, he
just did a run that as it was.

Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
Happening, We're all looking around, going it's still going, He's
still going, He's still going.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Well we got past another wrestlingia. Oh, Cody's definitely gonna
what no that We're never gonna see that sort of run.

Speaker 7 (01:06:46):
Ever again, and hopefully this gets capped off with him
being a Jordan brand athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
So yeah, Mount rushbar Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
All the time.

Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
Oh yeah, he's the guy of this generation and this
general and this generation took them into this stratosphere.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Who took it out? You have Hogan obviously, you have uh.
People say there, people say rocks there, people say seen
as there as four if you see.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Romans there, mister Roman fan club president of the world,
Who's is up the four?

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (01:07:27):
If it's a Mount Rushmore, it's gotta be. If it's
a Mount Rushmore, it's gotta be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Bruno, Hogan, Austin.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Roman, see what save here's something controversial. I would remove
Austin and leave the Rock exactly, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
And I wouldn't fight you on that because then then
that ERA is still taking care of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
It's complicated because I go Austin. Okay, So Austin has
a five year run and then that's it. And the
old reason Austin gets gets the respect does is because
he has the highest Q rating of anybody history history
of wrestling, probably because to this day it's the biggest
pop Oh yeah, the work is very muiscal in comparedon

(01:08:19):
to all these other guys.

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
Well so so so that that I think Rock and
Austin comes down to personal opinion, and it's those four
guys in just in terms, because I would go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
By era because Austin Rock benefit from from Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Greatly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
So on the one hand, the Rock benefited from Austin.
But no, everything Rock has done since twenty twelve, yes,
you know, I mean the the matches we've seen, the
and then fucking balls and all that stuff. I mean
that that's an argument for putting him ahead of Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I agree agree with.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
And I to Meanwhile, this match has been absolutely killer.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
Of course, this match has been excellent. I's why I've
been quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I've been watching Yeah and and lare up and over
the turnbucle spot always.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Popped me the best, the best.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
No, I think Roman is definitely ending up that ladder.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
In that conversation with about Rushmore, I'm just saying that
he probably needs one more. No, I don't think it requires.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
If he gets a sports brand endorsement, not walking around
wearing Nikes, a sports branded athlete. And by the way,
the fourth and longest reign of all time. I haven't
seen this ship since Bruno. Yeah, it's it's him, just
just it's him here here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Here's the thing that I always go back to. It
is this is a while. Everybody has their own list
for certain reasons, and this is where I always look
at when I look at Milt Rossmore, is that are
you the Is the economy of said company or wrestling
business dependent on you? Hogan Definitely. Hogan has been has

(01:10:15):
been the the two biggest booms in wrestling history. The
era in the eighties with on mainstream and then the
night people say oh after era, no answer, it doesn't
exist if the NW does not exist first ninety six
and that's because the whole COVID so Hull COVID did
it twice. Okay, so one guy.

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
I think that's a different Excuse me, I think that's
a different conversation in this era because while I believe
there isn't, there's just empirical evidence all over the place
that when Roman Reigns is on television, more people tune in.
But also we've seen that the yes, there will be

(01:10:53):
some lean years if there's not this there is everything
coming through one guy, and they don't have that quarterback,
if you will. I think they've got themselves, especially WWE,
They've got themselves to the point where, again they might
not have a show every single week, and they'll they'll
go through some lean years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
But I don't think we there is that focal point anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Here's here's a room because I respect me. Though Roman
did this ship as a heel for as long.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
That's hard to do, Yeah, hord to do.

Speaker 7 (01:11:30):
Yeah, he got to the point where it didn't matter,
like and he was doing diabolical stuff and it just
did not matter. People booed like they were supposed to,
but it was like a certain point it got to
like we're booing because we're we're supposed to, but you're
coolest ship.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah, and people Sue threw up the ones and popped
for the entrance and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
So, by the way, I wish to go back to
his old music, like, I don't mind the music.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Has no the music is so good one now oh yeah,
his Romans music now, oh, it's amazing.

Speaker 7 (01:12:09):
And and that that every Okay, you have to know
who's coming in immediately. That's one of the best part
of the parts of a wrestling team. If you nail that,
you got a great one. That three drum strike at
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
That that works, man, because as soon.

Speaker 7 (01:12:30):
As it hits, the whole crop pops and every everyone
goes up in the like the music hasn't even started
yet and people are.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Out of their season. What I did, I did. Sorry,
I was getting excited.

Speaker 7 (01:12:47):
Because I'm literally watching single in the world title while
putting over my current favorite guy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Let's see Rob.

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
No, no, I didn't have.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Now that was a good piece of business.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
By the way, the uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Locker room run and interference.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
Jason, I think our debt is settled to you now, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:13:13):
Yes, it is okay, because because if I had known
when Sting posted himself there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Lose dude.

Speaker 15 (01:13:22):
Yeah, like half the time when we would do a
watch along ey day, like we don't I don't know
the result, so and usually it's sting losing, so it
it's annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
So this is this has been fun.

Speaker 7 (01:13:37):
And and I was just saying like when if I
hadn't known the result going into this, when he had,
when Staking posted himself there, I would have been like,
all right, you guys did it again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I hate you guys, but this was fun.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
But the most for me, the most fun was when
we freaked you out with the I quit match and
you didn't know would be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
That bloody dude. I don't mind blood, but certain ways, man,
certain ways you draw it. It's like I don't need
pizza cutters. I don't need that ship. Like okay, oh yeah, if.

Speaker 7 (01:14:10):
You take a blow to the head and you go
down and then you quietly raise it yourself in the corner,
and I don't have to see it actually happen. Yeah,
and all of a sudden you come back up and
you've got a crimson mask.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Okay, sure let's go first, Sure, go for it. But man,
some of the ship these guys subject me to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
The sting Pirro, by the way, is incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
Yeah, this is worst championship, right, that's worst world championship.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Yeah, this worst one, right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
Yeah. And there were people doing this thing how in
Baltimore City, you know, out long after the show was over.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Yeah, oh yeah, man, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Yeah, man, Sting dude, like we're talking about mutch Moore
all time wrestling. He's definitely a there dude.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
He's a forcibly, he's a force of nature because he
played this character, this ball of fire like Captain America,
Superman guy, and then he also played the Crow and
he played it incredibly well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Like it's no contest, like he's one of the greatest
of all time.

Speaker 7 (01:15:17):
If not, and if if you personally said he's your
greatest of all time, then I'm not gonna argue with it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
And and look to put that run together. Heead and
a w at like sixty years old.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, exactly, So no, no contest, man. He brought Darby
to a whole nother transfer.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Yeah, that's just Sting. We touched on it earlier. Sting
in Warrior's role in ninety hopefully much earlier than ninety three.
Damn sure, certain will be will mean as prominent because
I don't think well again, ninety one after ward lost
the title because thing to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Hold it a little while, right, So dude, great show man,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
That was That was a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Wob thank you for doing it. I I need sometas
w stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Man, I know where I'm planning on doing an episode
next month on the first ever episode of Nitro. Next
month is the three anniversary of that first episode Nitro
in fact, September fourth.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
Yeah, I'm never the way through, so I need Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
I watched it here about six months ago, and I
started to do a Nitro watch like a rewatch, and
I started with episode one about six months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
If you guys don't want to do it with me,
Rob and I race, I would have three hours, no
whole hour, one hour, one hour show. Let's do it
what five minutes actually to be exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
Yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Because those shows all look, those shows started A shorter
show to the reach is two hours after that down
the road. So yeah, man, uh, Jason, go ahead and plug.

Speaker 7 (01:17:07):
And you want to plug, no, I mean you can
find us on I'm on Blue Sky at Jedi Fat Things.
Guys will plug their own stuff, but find us on
the Cheer Shout radio network.

Speaker 11 (01:17:17):
We're all off for all your podcasts wrestling and sports
and entertainment and sports entertainment needs the Church dot Com
all your podcast platforms, you of course can find us there.

Speaker 7 (01:17:28):
We're the minds of wrestling podcast. I'm Jason. I'm you
can find me again at Jedi fat on all the
social media platforms.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
That's all I got.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
And Celtics too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
The record yeah, and uh, Roman Rings is the greatest
of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
So I don't have.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
Oh yeah, look look he's Batman when it comes to
depending room and when comes the fitting the fourteenth times champion,
I'm Frank Castle.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Well like God sort them out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
Well since Rob's sitting there on.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
So I plugged my stuff every time I come on
with you Jacobs. I'm on the name with him every week,
so people have heard me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Well, I can't exactly top Jason, Rob, Jason and myself
are the Mindless Wrestling Podcast. If you're so inclined and
you want to follow me on the app formally known
as Twitter, you can find me at the Mindless Pod.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
I'm about plugging your TikTok also man your cars.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
Oh yeah, I have a TikTok. Thing has nothing to
do with wrestling. I in my spare time, I build
little scale model cars. I paint and build them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
It's kind of my my break from everything else. And
you can find that at d J Models.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
D E j A Y m O d e l S.
Really good ship too, man, I always I watch it
at the time, so really good.

Speaker 5 (01:19:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I appreciate that really good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Rob.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
You want to plug anything real quick before we go?
Uh well, okay, Rob, yo, check.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Out on Spotify, Rob the Genius the Beautiful podcast. I'm
on that sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Look, it's a great time DJ everywhere. You heard me
plug myself the main time. You know where to find me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
You know seven especially what's what's that podcast? Chorse Partners podcast?
So next episode we'll do that. NXRO episodes, I can't wait.
Do that next month.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
So so next one. Thank you guys for tuning in
as always. Later

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