February 24, 2021 • 38 mins
Echo Station Ep. 49: Gina Carano Fired
On this special episode of Echo Station, Ian and Kris talk about the firing of actress Gina Carano. We talk what lead up to her dismissal from Lucasfilm and how the series should proceed into the future without Gina Carano as Cara Dune. So strap in, this episode is a lot to take in.
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A Heroes Podcast Network Production
Hosts: Kristina Davis & Ian Turner
Executive Producer & Editor: Derreck Mayer
Music by Flying Killer Robots
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On this special episode of Echo Station, Ian and Kris talk about the firing of actress Gina Carano. We talk what lead up to her dismissal from Lucasfilm and how the series should proceed into the future without Gina Carano as Cara Dune. So strap in, this episode is a lot to take in.
Subscribe and follow us today: https://linktr.ee/EchoStationCast!
We're available on podcast apps like Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Podcast Addict, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, Spreaker, Google Podcasts, and more!
Follow us on Twitter @EchoStationCast!
Echo Station Podcast Credits
A Heroes Podcast Network Production
Hosts: Kristina Davis & Ian Turner
Executive Producer & Editor: Derreck Mayer
Music by Flying Killer Robots
Links: https://linktr.ee/EchoStationCast
Social Media: @EchoStationCast
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You're listening to the Heroes Podcast Network. Hello, all you friendly for sasers,
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and welcome to another episode of EccoStation Podcasts. I am your host
christ and with my lovely, lovely, ever lovely co host Ian. Hello,
I'm the loveliest. He is theloveliest, absolutely loveliest, and we're
here with a whoa what a topicdo we have for you guys today?
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Warning, it's gonna get profane today. When does it not get profane?
Like extra profane. That's gonna be. There's gonna be ranting and raving because
today we're talking about Gina Corno.Yeah, yep, we're late on putting
this episode out, but it's becausewe're bi weekly. So this happened of
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course, on the week that wedidn't put out an episode. So yeah,
and then you know, like theentire middle of the country was frozen,
so yeah, stuff happened. Blackoutshappens, Yeah, things happened.
But yeah, we are here too. We are here to discuss that.
So if you don't want to hearmore discussions of that, just skip this
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episode. Yeah we'd like you nottoo, though, but if you want
to, I think it's kind ofimportant to discuss this, but yeah,
I can understand maybe maybe maybe youagree with us and just don't want to
hear any more ranting about that.I can understand that too, so that's
fair. But if you want tostick around real quick, we do have
a smidgen of Star Wars news,mostly gaming news. One, the Ubisoft
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Open World Star Wars game is infull development right now. Hazaza so excited,
and I believe it was Three voiceactors who were in Battlefront two have
said on I believe they're Instagram orsomewhere on Twitter, maybe that they have
started recording lines for a game.I don't know. Uh No. I
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just literally found out this past weekthat Matt Mercer, Matthew Mercer voices Luke
Skywalker and Battlefront two, and mymind is blown. Who's that? He's
just this incredible voice actor for bothgaming and UM anime and like super super
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incredibly talented, but he's also theDM of critical role that Iron. It's
like superstand Matt Mercer um and Ilove this Luke Skywalker like it doesn't really
quite sound like Mark Hamill, it'sclearly not Mark Hamill, but his voice
is so perfectly Luke like. It'sso perfectly passionate. It's got this great
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passion and timber to it that's verya little like understanding and caring, but
also really like into things. SoI don't know, I love it.
I really like his performance, thoughI would love to see him come back
as Luke. Luke. Yes.And in other Star Wars game news,
we found out that Chris got aswitch in our previous episode and there is
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a game called Star Wars Hunters comingto the switch. Yay, So here's
the full detail. So Star WarsHunters will connect players in a real time
to battle in real time to battlein settings inspired by the econnect Star Wars
Locales. Players will join squads ofall new and authentic characters, including daring
Bounty Hunters. Heroes are the Rebellionand Imperial Stormtroopers in an action game that
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immerses. Player immerses. That's aword. Players in a fast pace and
visually stunning Star Wars Galaxy. Thatsounds a date is twenty twenty one three
to e for everyone. Is thislike the spiritual successor to Star Wars Master
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of Tara Cossi? I hope so, because that would be incredible, and
being able to play online would bereally cool. Yeah, do you have
a switch? Uh No, Soif anyone who listens to our podcast wants
to buy me a switch, yeah, no, you're gonna have to get
a switch because like a lot ofour friends have switched, and so if
you're a friend of the pod,you can send the switch to me.
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DMUs And I have to say it'sone of it's one of the best game
platforms that I've I've had in along time. I don't know. I'm
still holding up for PS five though. Yeah, like this just this just
fills a different niche, a differentkind of gaming niche, you know.
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I just love that. It's soyou know, I throw it in my
bag and I can take it where, you know, anywhere with me,
Like, yeah, I'm gonna bewaiting in the doctor's office, all right,
I'm gonna sit and play Breath ofthe Wild. Very fair. Yeah.
So that's about it for news,it's just too Yeah, nothing really
else is well. I mean thebig news we're going to talk about,
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But other than that, there hasn'tbeen really a whole lot of a lot
of stuff happening. So it's allquiet on the Western front. Yeah,
I mean, we've got I guessthe High Republic. We talked about that
coming out. Yes, it's beenall you so far from Ryan Johnson.
Ryan Johnson said that his UH trilogyis still confirmed to be happening. True,
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there's just no date yet as towhen it will start or when it
will take place. Interesting, Sothat's something for fans to look forward to.
If you like Last Jedi, youknow you can you can dislike the
Last Jedi, and I think stillbe excited about Ryan Johnson movie. He
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makes good movies. He makes goodmovies. He does. He makes very
good movies. Yeah, my catthinks so too. Apparently, yes,
she goes, I like the Ryanmovies. Yes you do? Okay,
uh so yeah, So we're gonnatake a quick little break and then we're
going to just dive in head first, aren't we. Here we go yep,
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all right, so we're back injust a moment, guys, and
hey we're back. Look at that. Cool? So how do you want
to start this? Ah? Like, this is just such great shock and
Friday to me, I just Ilove it when stuff like this happens.
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I mean, I don't like,I don't like the situation, but I
like when it comes to a happyending for me. Yes, So let's
um, should we talk about whathappened to get her fired or some from
the very beginning or how are wegonna Well, I mean so we've already
talked about the issues Regina before,like quite extensively. Um. And basically,
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you know, she kind of gavelike a half ass apology and said
she, you know, I guesstold Dizzy that she was going to behave
and promptly did not. In fact, apparently she so they told her you
cannot you cannot act this way,um, and gave her, you know,
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basically like a script to follow ofwhat she needed to say to not
do these kind of things, andshe just told kind of like told them
to fuck off basically. Yeah.Um. In fact, she literally stopped
taking communications from them, so shestopped answering their emails, their phone calls
or whatever. Um, she's justkind of been on a four. Well.
And when it comes to Disney pronounthing, she uh, they they
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issued an apology for her, yes, and she was like, nah,
I'm gonna do my own and whenthey saw what she was gonna they're like,
no, you you need to dowhat we're going to do. And
she said that no, I'm notgoing to did not use their apology and
found out this. I didn't realizethis until connecting the dots. They banned
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her from doing promo stuff for Mandoseason two. Well, there you go.
I didn't realize that she. Ijust didn't put two and two together.
She wasn't tweeting about it. I'mlike, oh, maybe she's,
you know, just not doing it. I didn't realize she was like banned
from doing it basically, So theywere already for the last few months,
they've already been clearly trying to distancethemselves, yes from her. So then
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we got to like three weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, So she's going
on. So she's been posting lotsof dumb things, you know, lots
of dumb very kind of Trump supporting, antimasking, et cetera, et cetera.
You know, blah blah blah dumbthings, and then she posed what
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Ian What did she post? I'mtrying to find it. I know I
sent it to you and didn't Ioh yeah, I'm pretty sure. Um,
give me a sucking to pull itup. Hold on, here it
is. It's right behind the thingof kit fistle that you sent me.
Chris and a meme of kit Fistoin an episode two and episode three,
and he looked completely different, likehe's on cracking. Episode three is the
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funniest thing ever. Yes, it'sreally funny. Um, but so onto
her. So she put on herwhat are they called on Twitter? Fleets?
Right, tweets? No fleets likethe oh the oh god? No,
okay, no, I'm not.I mean yeah, I don't do
those fleets. I believe, Yes, yes, put on a fleet and
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I believe on her Instagram story aswell. A so I was reading.
I'm reading it word for word.Here we go. H Jews were beaten
in the streets, not by Nazisoldiers, but by their neighbors, even
by children. Sad emoji face.And this is in quotes because history has
edited. Most people today don't liesthat. To get to the point where
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Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousandsof Jews, the government first made their
own neighbors hate them simply for beingJews. How is that any different from
hating someone for the political views?Question mark end quote. Please dissect this.
Oh my god. I just here'sa tip for you guys. Do
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not compare the Holocaust or any genocideto anything that is not genocide. Yeah,
that's it. It's a simple rule. It's a very very simple rule.
Oh my god. I just don'tequate being a Republican with being a
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Holocaust victim. No, just no. And here's the thing. Let's let's
prep just this this right now.Chris and I. You know, we
are liberal Democrats. We can,I mean, anyone who listens to the
jobs knows that. But we alsorespect other people's you know, political values
and beliefs. We're not we're nottrying to trash that. We just take
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issue with the fact of everything thatshe has done because it's all completely horribly
wrong, in heinous. It's justawful. It's the the persecution complex with
people like them complex, and it'syeah, it's it's so mind baffling to
me because there has literally, literallynever been a less victimize, less persecuted
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group of people than white Christians fromthe United States. Yeah, that's it.
They are literally the most privi whitchgroup of people of all time.
So the mental gymnastics to try toequate their existence with Holocaust victims, it
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just makes my brain hurt. Itmakes me really sad, and it makes
my brain hurt. Yeah, it'sit's And this is the post that really
did her in because as soon asshe posted that, the Twitter went wild
with hashtag it was a fired cYeah, and I think canceled card Dune
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or something like that, cancel cardoneand fired Gina Crono. Yeah. So
uh, basically that caught the eyeof whoever. Someone Also I've found on
a bunch of threads and I hsent you this to someone found like the
Lucas Film I think publicity email orsomething. I can't remember what it was
exactly, but emails were pouring toLucasfilm and I think what was it the
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day after they announced it or wasit the day of? It was like
less than twenty four hours later,Yeah, that they announced, Hey,
uh, she no longer has acontract with us. She will not be
doing anything really in the future withus. Bye bye. She committed career
suicide. Yeah, well we'll see. Yeah, I mean, come on
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still, and it ain't no moneylike Disney money, and that's never coming
back, especially Disney Star Wars money. That's yeah, and like Disney Marvel
money and stuff like that. Sothat's you know, two big big money
money wagons there ye. So that'sthe really, that's the post that did
her in. Uh, you know, people were and then people try to
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campaign before finding out she got letgo. The whole we love Ginacrano hashtag
was trending as well, and literally, I think maybe an hour and a
half after that started trending, shegot the new the announcement that she got
fired, and then that would thathashtag stopped trending. Yeah. Well,
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so the funny thing is in myfavorite part of this whole fiance, Oh
yeah, you were dying laughing atthis part, which is actually funny,
so amazing. So again rewinding fora second, Remember we said she stopped
taking communications from Disney. This includesthe fact that they were trying to contact
her to say bye bye. Shedidn't answer any of those. She basically
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had them blocked, so she neversaw it. So she found out that
she got fired through tweets. Yep, the Twitter brought the firing news.
I just I'd love it. Ilove it so much. Ian It's it's
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oh boy, are you there?Yeah? Oh sorry, you went really
quiet. Oh yeah yeah, I'mI'm still processing all of it. Um.
Yeah, so so she's she's uhyeah, she got the boot and
of course immediately she starts bitching andmoaning and blaming this on cancel culture.
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Now look, I'm sorry, it'snot cancel culture. It's and you know,
a friend of mine said this,and I saw it retweeted at other
places. This isn't cancel culture.This is consequence culture. Okay, you
play dumb games, you win dumbprizes. That's just that's just how it
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is. This isn't you know,And this isn't about free speech because she's
free to say those things. Sheis absolutely free to be a hateful,
spiteful, misinformed bitch. She cando that to her grave. However,
her employer does not have to putup with that. No, yeah,
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that's free. I can, youknow, walk into my job and say,
you know, fuck everyone here,I hate it and you know,
all these horrible things and then go, oh, well that's your opinion.
That's great, and this is yourlast day here. Yeah. And no,
that's not the same as being aprotected group of people. Correct.
It's not the same as firing somebodybecause they are because they are LGBTQ.
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That's not the same thing. Youare not persecuted because you have terrible,
terrible opinions. Yeah, it's yeah, oh man telling you it's the persecution
thing. I it's just it reallymiss me. It really really grinds my
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gears. And so I think itwas yes, yesterday or the day before.
Oh well first so announced, Sotell us what she is going to
do now with Oh yeah, okay, so like a day later or not
even like maybe even the same day. I think it's a day later or
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two because she needed time to process. Well, either this was either this
was thrown together haphazardly or they wereexpecting this to happen, and so these
wheels were already in motion. Sothe Daily Wire comes in and says that,
well, guess what, Corrado hasnow got a movie deal with us
and been my wife's vagina is adesert Shapiro, so you know she's found
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her people. So good for her. Yeah, I just think it's hilarious
that they think that she can carryan entire movie by herself, because I'm
sorry, but the girl ain't thatgood, no, an, I mean,
she doesn't have a little fan base. I'll give her that she has
loyal followers and stuff like that,but we should also owe the other the
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other trending hashtag on Twitter was canceledDisney Plus. That was it? Oh
yeah, that was hilarious. Whereyou know, people are saying if this
person isn't on the show, whichby the way, she's not a lead
on the show. She's a supportingactor on the show. So yeah,
I can understand, you know,cancel Disney Plus if you weren't going to
have you know, Pedro Pascal anymorestuff like that, But not her,
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She's not worth canceling your Disney Plussubscription. Sorry, no, uh,
you know, cancel Disney Plus wastrending, which you know, at least
like ninety eight percent of those peoplewho said that aren't going to be canceling
their subscription or I mean whatever,even if they do, like it's it
literally does nothing or they do,it's gonna add back up. They'll probably
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re up it again when something comesout that they want to see. Yeah,
sure, well, and I doa lot of people were you know,
saying they were going to turn tothe High Seas for their Disney content.
So it's not that's the thing.It's not even funny. They're they're
not going to stop watching, they'rejust not going to pay for it exactly.
Like also, maybe announcing that you'regonna pirate stuff online where there's a
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trail of that isn't the best ideato do. Yeah, just a thought.
Just you texted me because I posted, you know, uh, cancel
Disney Plus when there's wand Division comingout, I don't think so yeah,
oh wow, I didn't because Idon't have notifications stuff. Uh. But
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yeah, So the whole thing waslike blowing up. And I didn't realize
it until Chris texted me saying,hey, uh, you need to check
your tweets, man, yes,check check the Twitter please. And I'm
like, okay, so h I'mlike I don't I don't know what that
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means, but okay. And soI uh was like, well, the
trails came out of the woodwork basicallybasically basically, yeah, they were all
it was like it was like abunch of Gina boot liquors. Basically.
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It was so embarrassing, which tome was very very funny. Yeah.
Yeah, you know, we don'treally we don't really feed trolls, so
we just kind of we just sortof laughed at it. That was that.
Yeah, but it was it wasI mean, people were like,
were you know, throwing shade andshit on Wan Division. I'm like,
wand division is fantastic. Fuck off. Yeah, I mean, you know,
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like what you like, but it'sobjectively good. So yeah. Uh
so there's that. And then shealso, uh, let me go to
Yeah, here we go. Soshe after that about a day or two
later today sit down interview with BenShapiro, and it's on you Tube.
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I did not watch. I watchedthe first like five minutes of it,
and I turned off because it wasstupid and ridiculous. Um. So basically,
he asked her, you know whathappened? You know, let's start
with, you know, the pronounsstuff, which Chris and I have talked
about before on the podcast. Yeah. Um. She doubles down on a
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bunch of stuff. She blatantly,Uh, oh, where's the hang I'm
read the article, give me asecond. Uh yeah. She blantly starts
to lie about the go fund mepage that was started by fans and benefit
of the transgender gender community, whichwas not true. What did she say?
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Uh? She said that where isit? Um? She said that
the go funding in question was away of showing the transgender community that we
as Star Wars fans don't stand bywhen people are being harmful and bullied.
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It was simply a way of showingthe trans community that we were here for
them, and we started the benefitof the Transgender Law Center. So Gina
says that it was started by acreative director from Lucasfilm, and that was
a lie. Yeah. So,and then when you look at the actual
go fund me for it just simplystates that it was started because of Chrono's
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ignorance towards the importance of pronouns.Yeah. Well so yeah, uh he
she said that, you know,she's still friends with Pedro Pascal and they're
still cool and whatever, which isfine, I guess whatever. I find
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that hard to believe. Yeah,because Pedro, ye, I'm trying to
think. So let's let's do arewind for a second, because I think
this all connects. Remember when wedid this whole rumors episode and we talked
about how okay, so the rumorswere saying that basically Pedro Pascal got into
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an argument with somebody in the castor the crew and walked off, and
you know, everybody was everybody wassuspecting that it was um like one of
the the film or the showrunners,you know, and like there was some
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kind of disagreement and then nothing came, you know, nothing came at that
whatever. He was still obviously inthe show and whatever. But now now
that we come back to this,I am wondering if it was Gina h
that he got into a heated argumentwith. And here is why. So,
just before all this Genas stuff wentdown, or the most recent one,
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Pedro came out in support of thefact that his sister is trance and
by the way, incredibly stunningly beautiful. Yes, and he is, you
know, like world's coolest brother aboutthis and super super supportive of her,
and it's a whole it's super beautiful. The whole thing is really sweet.
So I mean, obviously he's knownthat his sister was transfer a while and
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probably back when Gina started this wholeobviously transphobic narrative. So I would not
be surprised if there really was aheated argument on set and it was between
him and Gina Krono. Uh.Yeah, So that's that's my theory on
that. It wouldn't surprise me atall either, to be honest, So
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for them to still be friends,I highly doubt it. I feel like
he's just plague nice for publicity.That's my feeling on the matter. That's
it could be quite possible. Um, but then she maybe he's just a
better person. I don't know.Well, yes, but then she also
said that she was bullyed by Disneyand bullied by Lucasfilm. That's so freaking
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hilarious, which I don't I don'tknow how. No, like, literally
the bullshit that she posts is bullying. I mean, you know, she
talks about boohoo, the liberal snowflakesand stuff all the time like a girl
cool, you got such a thinskin. Look in the fucking mirror,
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right, Like you lost your jobbecause somebody told you stopped running your mouth
about things that our company doesn't standfor it, and you kept doing it.
That's not bullying. That's consequence.Yeah, I do. I don't
hate this whole Oh, this isbullshit. This is cancel culture. No,
we have said before it is.It is consequence culture. Yeah,
there are consequences for your actions.Every what's the what's the word, what's
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the what's the law? For everyreaction? There's an exactly, there's an
equal office of reaction. Yeah,yeah, there you go. Yeah,
so you know, sorry, folks, she blew it. I mean,
she blew having additional roles in TheMandalorian. She blew probably having her own
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series. She And that's the thingtoo, Disney was going to announce the
the was The Rangers, right,yeah, the Rangers of the Republics,
and she was going to be thelead of that show. So yeah,
she I mean, I'm sorry shecan. Do you remember when they announced
all those shows back in November?Do you remember me saying it's kind of
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weird that didn't runner for that.Yeah, for a show that's so close
to The Mandalorian and so close toprobably being in production that there's no front
runner actor or actress for this seriesyet. Yeah, no, I do.
He knew what it was doing anyway, it was going to be Gina
Holly. Yeah, so might was, which I think you agreed with me
too, because they should bring itand U uh uh, i'dnversio from.
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I think it is so cool.I would love to see her as an
actual live character, yeah, playedby um givin a Gablanker, Yes,
because she's fantastic. Yeah, andshe did like the motion capture for it,
and she's an actual actress and stufftoo, So like I get her
in this role, she would bealive at this time. M hm.
So it could be very cool.In fact, they they've got a quite
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a few um voice actors who areactual actors that they you know, motion
capture that look like their characters thatthey could absolutely bring in for live action.
So that would be cool. That'dbe cool to see um. But
yeah, yeah, she's just it'sjust so dumb. It's so that's the
thing for me to to be thatdumb, Like, was it really worth
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it? Was it? Sure?Now she gets to be Now she gets
to be the pin up for fora right wing crazy people. You know,
she's never gonna have what she hadbefore. No, never, never,
never never. And you know whatwhen she when she hits over I
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hate to say this, Oh mygod, I hate does this. When
she hits forty, they're gonna throwher away when she stops being hot because
we all know what right wing conservativesthink of women. Yep. So when
she what sucks is that like duringthe Mandalorian season one publicity and eating interviews
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and like the celebration stuff, shegenuinely wanted to be like, she genuinely
like loved having fun on set,Like you see the behind the scenes documentaries
and stuff for a season two andseason one. She genuinely liked having fun.
She genuinely got along with you know, most of the cast and stuff
like that, Like she was havingfun playing this character. And it sucks
that she ye fucked her way outof this, Like she sucked herself over
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so bad. And I was,I was, I was stoked to see,
you know, a different kind ofwoman represented in Star Wars, represented
in popular culture because we just youdon't don't see it very much. And
I think that really spoke to alot of people. Now, do you
think that it's gonna get recast?Are they're going to kill her off?
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I think they're gonna kill her off. Yeah, I think it would be
too I think it'd be too awkward, too weird, or she just won't
to recast, that they won't heror something. Right, she got blown
up on the way somewhere. Ohwell oops, that she can go visit
all her Aldrandian friends and family.So sad. I just I can't see
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another I can't see another actress wantingto step into that role. Well,
I was going to say, thereis a Twitter campaign. I have a
Twitter campaign right now for one looselylawless. Yeah, I mean, I'd
love to see her in the StarWars universe. I just I just think
that this role needs to to beput to bed. Yeah, if you're
gonna have her in Star Wars,do a different role that's maybe not tainted
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right now. Yeah. No,it's just it's too it's too weird at
this point. I think, Yeah, and you know, maybe have her,
you know, be very much likeCardoom but not car Doom. Yeah
that makes sense. You can haveanother similar character and just do away with
Kara very much. So and yeah, so, but I mean the good
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news is now we can watch seasonthree of them. Yeah. No,
after that, we can watch Rangersand season three. After that tweet,
we were both like, well,I guess we're done with the Mandalorian yep.
And here, you know, letme just put a disclaimer on this.
Obviously, we love we love thecontent that Disney puts out. Yeah,
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we definitely enjoy it. We standit. We've been big fans for
our entire lives. Blah blah blahblah blah. That is not to say
that we are not also critical ofDisney as a whole. You know,
there are viously some big issues rightnow. Um, you know, the
genocide in China at the moment,and against supporting exion is no, no,
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there, we don't have the rosecolor glasses completely. It's hard.
It's hard to be any kind ofcorporation and not be a little bit evil.
Yeah, in some way, it'sa little bit. It's it's kind
of inscapable. Um. I Imean, I just think that it's good
to be an informed consumer of something, you know that I try to be.
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I try to just be informed andwhatever I do, you know,
I will still speak out against thefact that Disney supports China or looks for
you know, looks for them tomake funds to make Obviously, China is
a cash cow and in the Hollywoodsector, and I know that Disney is
hemorrhaging money from their parks right now. So I find it I find it
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easy to believe that they won't becutting ties with China anytime soon. Um,
just because of the financial reasons.But I I, I mean,
it's in their best interests to doit eventually, and hopefully they will,
but it won't. They're not goingto. I mean, and it's not
just them, it's like it's it'sall of Hollywood. So it's that's that's
why I'm not darning away from themover this, because they all of Hollywood
(32:23):
catoos to China. That's just thatis just unfortunately the way things are right
now. They are just way toomuch of a financial presence in filmmaking for
Hollywood to turn away from them,which is a really really big shame.
Um. So hopefully you know therest of the world will be pressuring China
(32:45):
enough that they can stop acting likenazis. Yeah, but yeah, just
yeah, I just wanted to iteratethat we we know there are problems.
We obviously know they are problems withinthe corporation. We see that we're not
They're not perfect. Did they bullyJinacrano? No, they did not.
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That is not That is not aproblem that they have. That is no,
that's not it. Yeah. No, So that being said, uh
yeah, that's our kind of ourbig to do. Yep. So there's
yeah, there's our thoughts on that. Yeah. Um yeah, so that
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was we had We knew we hadto do an episode on it as soon
as it happened, but we justcouldn't put out right when it happened because
it was obviously not in the schedule. So yeah, and honestly, it's
still it's still a developing story.You know, stuff is still happening.
Yes, on her end, Ilike, you know, like she said,
she's freer than ever now to saywhatever she wants, like, you
know, like as if she wasmuzzled before. Right, So it'll be
(34:00):
interesting to see what kind of quackeryshe starts flapping about with her mouth in
the weeks to come. Yeah,nothing, nothing good, I'm sure,
but yeah, but yeah, no, you know it's not a big loss
you Oh god, No, Idon't. I don't mean like we don't
wish ill will on her. No, No, but I mean she she
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made her own bed. Yes,so you know, either she may she
may become a martyr image for forthis particular facet of people, or you
know, she's gonna completely fade andpeople will forget her existence either way,
whatever whatever, I'm kind of I'mdone thinking about her. Yeah, it's
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it's nice not having to, youknow, worry about it, I guess
anymore. Yep, she can go, she can go have fun with the
Shapiros and they're boring asss existence nowif anything else called that a god forbid
happens to this show. Jesus Christ, Oh my god, I know this.
This Moore show has been through thering. It's kind about two seasons
(35:07):
in. Yeah, and it's sofunny because because Petro Pescal is such an
obviously fantastic person. Yeah, hejust seems like such a great all around
guy. Well yeah, and ohwe should also say that Lucasfilm has told
Hasbro to immediately halt production on anycardoon action figures, toys, dolls,
(35:32):
trading cards and like that. Soif you happen to be a TOPS collector
and you happen to get a GinaCrono autograph, it may go up in
price. So if he even soldit, you know, maybe keep it
out for a little bit and seewhat you can get for it. You
should get one and then burn iton video. I think that would be
hilarious. I can get it forsuper cheap maybe, Yeah, No,
(35:54):
I mean like if you got likea random one. Oh, if I
pulled one, you mean, yeah, if you pulled one, just poof.
I don't know if they're if they'regoing for a lot of money,
I'll get some porce have to buyit off me. You'll you'll take some
some in cells money, Yeah,easily, q qan on in cell money
easily. I will gladly take thatand put it in my PayPal balance.
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But yeah, so that about wrapsus up here. Um. You know,
it's it's an episode that we knewwas going to come eventually, we
just didn't know when. So we'reglad we can check it off our bucket
list. Yes, and I knowwe said we're gonna do more like Specie
spotlights and everything like that, butthis had to come first. So sorry,
guys. Oh yeahs very very presentin the media right now and important.
(36:40):
Yes, it's very kind of hotbutton. I guess what the word
would be. Yes, But sodon't forget. You can follow us at
Echo Station Cast on Twitter for allof our updates, tweets, memes,
all that good stuff. Chris isworking on Instagram at the moment for us,
so hopefully that will be on soon. Yeah. I will work on
that, I promise. But untilthen, where can they find you?
(37:04):
You can find me on Twitter atthe dirt Witch, and you can find
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be soon at Chris Jaded that's jadedwith an edy at the end, and
then I am on Twitter at Iour Turner and then Instagram is House of
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(37:25):
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Drop us a review on Apple Podcast, because if you do that,
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until next time, guys, stayhealthy, stay happy, and may the
Force be with you, May thevorse be with you.
You're listening to the Heroes Podcast Network. Hello, all you friendly for sasers,
(00:21):
and welcome to another episode of EccoStation Podcasts. I am your host
christ and with my lovely, lovely, ever lovely co host Ian. Hello,
I'm the loveliest. He is theloveliest, absolutely loveliest, and we're
here with a whoa what a topicdo we have for you guys today?
(00:42):
Warning, it's gonna get profane today. When does it not get profane?
Like extra profane. That's gonna be. There's gonna be ranting and raving because
today we're talking about Gina Corno.Yeah, yep, we're late on putting
this episode out, but it's becausewe're bi weekly. So this happened of
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course, on the week that wedidn't put out an episode. So yeah,
and then you know, like theentire middle of the country was frozen,
so yeah, stuff happened. Blackoutshappens, Yeah, things happened.
But yeah, we are here too. We are here to discuss that.
So if you don't want to hearmore discussions of that, just skip this
(01:25):
episode. Yeah we'd like you nottoo, though, but if you want
to, I think it's kind ofimportant to discuss this, but yeah,
I can understand maybe maybe maybe youagree with us and just don't want to
hear any more ranting about that.I can understand that too, so that's
fair. But if you want tostick around real quick, we do have
a smidgen of Star Wars news,mostly gaming news. One, the Ubisoft
(01:49):
Open World Star Wars game is infull development right now. Hazaza so excited,
and I believe it was Three voiceactors who were in Battlefront two have
said on I believe they're Instagram orsomewhere on Twitter, maybe that they have
started recording lines for a game.I don't know. Uh No. I
(02:15):
just literally found out this past weekthat Matt Mercer, Matthew Mercer voices Luke
Skywalker and Battlefront two, and mymind is blown. Who's that? He's
just this incredible voice actor for bothgaming and UM anime and like super super
(02:37):
incredibly talented, but he's also theDM of critical role that Iron. It's
like superstand Matt Mercer um and Ilove this Luke Skywalker like it doesn't really
quite sound like Mark Hamill, it'sclearly not Mark Hamill, but his voice
is so perfectly Luke like. It'sso perfectly passionate. It's got this great
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passion and timber to it that's verya little like understanding and caring, but
also really like into things. SoI don't know, I love it.
I really like his performance, thoughI would love to see him come back
as Luke. Luke. Yes.And in other Star Wars game news,
we found out that Chris got aswitch in our previous episode and there is
(03:22):
a game called Star Wars Hunters comingto the switch. Yay, So here's
the full detail. So Star WarsHunters will connect players in a real time
to battle in real time to battlein settings inspired by the econnect Star Wars
Locales. Players will join squads ofall new and authentic characters, including daring
Bounty Hunters. Heroes are the Rebellionand Imperial Stormtroopers in an action game that
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immerses. Player immerses. That's aword. Players in a fast pace and
visually stunning Star Wars Galaxy. Thatsounds a date is twenty twenty one three
to e for everyone. Is thislike the spiritual successor to Star Wars Master
(04:06):
of Tara Cossi? I hope so, because that would be incredible, and
being able to play online would bereally cool. Yeah, do you have
a switch? Uh No, Soif anyone who listens to our podcast wants
to buy me a switch, yeah, no, you're gonna have to get
a switch because like a lot ofour friends have switched, and so if
you're a friend of the pod,you can send the switch to me.
(04:29):
DMUs And I have to say it'sone of it's one of the best game
platforms that I've I've had in along time. I don't know. I'm
still holding up for PS five though. Yeah, like this just this just
fills a different niche, a differentkind of gaming niche, you know.
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I just love that. It's soyou know, I throw it in my
bag and I can take it where, you know, anywhere with me,
Like, yeah, I'm gonna bewaiting in the doctor's office, all right,
I'm gonna sit and play Breath ofthe Wild. Very fair. Yeah.
So that's about it for news,it's just too Yeah, nothing really
else is well. I mean thebig news we're going to talk about,
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But other than that, there hasn'tbeen really a whole lot of a lot
of stuff happening. So it's allquiet on the Western front. Yeah,
I mean, we've got I guessthe High Republic. We talked about that
coming out. Yes, it's beenall you so far from Ryan Johnson.
Ryan Johnson said that his UH trilogyis still confirmed to be happening. True,
(05:33):
there's just no date yet as towhen it will start or when it
will take place. Interesting, Sothat's something for fans to look forward to.
If you like Last Jedi, youknow you can you can dislike the
Last Jedi, and I think stillbe excited about Ryan Johnson movie. He
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makes good movies. He makes goodmovies. He does. He makes very
good movies. Yeah, my catthinks so too. Apparently, yes,
she goes, I like the Ryanmovies. Yes you do? Okay,
uh so yeah, So we're gonnatake a quick little break and then we're
going to just dive in head first, aren't we. Here we go yep,
(06:16):
all right, so we're back injust a moment, guys, and
hey we're back. Look at that. Cool? So how do you want
to start this? Ah? Like, this is just such great shock and
Friday to me, I just Ilove it when stuff like this happens.
(06:39):
I mean, I don't like,I don't like the situation, but I
like when it comes to a happyending for me. Yes, So let's
um, should we talk about whathappened to get her fired or some from
the very beginning or how are wegonna Well, I mean so we've already
talked about the issues Regina before,like quite extensively. Um. And basically,
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you know, she kind of gavelike a half ass apology and said
she, you know, I guesstold Dizzy that she was going to behave
and promptly did not. In fact, apparently she so they told her you
cannot you cannot act this way,um, and gave her, you know,
(07:27):
basically like a script to follow ofwhat she needed to say to not
do these kind of things, andshe just told kind of like told them
to fuck off basically. Yeah.Um. In fact, she literally stopped
taking communications from them, so shestopped answering their emails, their phone calls
or whatever. Um, she's justkind of been on a four. Well.
And when it comes to Disney pronounthing, she uh, they they
(07:50):
issued an apology for her, yes, and she was like, nah,
I'm gonna do my own and whenthey saw what she was gonna they're like,
no, you you need to dowhat we're going to do. And
she said that no, I'm notgoing to did not use their apology and
found out this. I didn't realizethis until connecting the dots. They banned
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her from doing promo stuff for Mandoseason two. Well, there you go.
I didn't realize that she. Ijust didn't put two and two together.
She wasn't tweeting about it. I'mlike, oh, maybe she's,
you know, just not doing it. I didn't realize she was like banned
from doing it basically, So theywere already for the last few months,
they've already been clearly trying to distancethemselves, yes from her. So then
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we got to like three weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, So she's going
on. So she's been posting lotsof dumb things, you know, lots
of dumb very kind of Trump supporting, antimasking, et cetera, et cetera.
You know, blah blah blah dumbthings, and then she posed what
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Ian What did she post? I'mtrying to find it. I know I
sent it to you and didn't Ioh yeah, I'm pretty sure. Um,
give me a sucking to pull itup. Hold on, here it
is. It's right behind the thingof kit fistle that you sent me.
Chris and a meme of kit Fistoin an episode two and episode three,
and he looked completely different, likehe's on cracking. Episode three is the
(09:18):
funniest thing ever. Yes, it'sreally funny. Um, but so onto
her. So she put on herwhat are they called on Twitter? Fleets?
Right, tweets? No fleets likethe oh the oh god? No,
okay, no, I'm not.I mean yeah, I don't do
those fleets. I believe, Yes, yes, put on a fleet and
(09:39):
I believe on her Instagram story aswell. A so I was reading.
I'm reading it word for word.Here we go. H Jews were beaten
in the streets, not by Nazisoldiers, but by their neighbors, even
by children. Sad emoji face.And this is in quotes because history has
edited. Most people today don't liesthat. To get to the point where
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Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousandsof Jews, the government first made their
own neighbors hate them simply for beingJews. How is that any different from
hating someone for the political views?Question mark end quote. Please dissect this.
Oh my god. I just here'sa tip for you guys. Do
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not compare the Holocaust or any genocideto anything that is not genocide. Yeah,
that's it. It's a simple rule. It's a very very simple rule.
Oh my god. I just don'tequate being a Republican with being a
(10:54):
Holocaust victim. No, just no. And here's the thing. Let's let's
prep just this this right now.Chris and I. You know, we
are liberal Democrats. We can,I mean, anyone who listens to the
jobs knows that. But we alsorespect other people's you know, political values
and beliefs. We're not we're nottrying to trash that. We just take
(11:18):
issue with the fact of everything thatshe has done because it's all completely horribly
wrong, in heinous. It's justawful. It's the the persecution complex with
people like them complex, and it'syeah, it's it's so mind baffling to
me because there has literally, literallynever been a less victimize, less persecuted
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group of people than white Christians fromthe United States. Yeah, that's it.
They are literally the most privi whitchgroup of people of all time.
So the mental gymnastics to try toequate their existence with Holocaust victims, it
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just makes my brain hurt. Itmakes me really sad, and it makes
my brain hurt. Yeah, it'sit's And this is the post that really
did her in because as soon asshe posted that, the Twitter went wild
with hashtag it was a fired cYeah, and I think canceled card Dune
(12:37):
or something like that, cancel cardoneand fired Gina Crono. Yeah. So
uh, basically that caught the eyeof whoever. Someone Also I've found on
a bunch of threads and I hsent you this to someone found like the
Lucas Film I think publicity email orsomething. I can't remember what it was
exactly, but emails were pouring toLucasfilm and I think what was it the
(13:03):
day after they announced it or wasit the day of? It was like
less than twenty four hours later,Yeah, that they announced, Hey,
uh, she no longer has acontract with us. She will not be
doing anything really in the future withus. Bye bye. She committed career
suicide. Yeah, well we'll see. Yeah, I mean, come on
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still, and it ain't no moneylike Disney money, and that's never coming
back, especially Disney Star Wars money. That's yeah, and like Disney Marvel
money and stuff like that. Sothat's you know, two big big money
money wagons there ye. So that'sthe really, that's the post that did
her in. Uh, you know, people were and then people try to
(13:52):
campaign before finding out she got letgo. The whole we love Ginacrano hashtag
was trending as well, and literally, I think maybe an hour and a
half after that started trending, shegot the new the announcement that she got
fired, and then that would thathashtag stopped trending. Yeah. Well,
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so the funny thing is in myfavorite part of this whole fiance, Oh
yeah, you were dying laughing atthis part, which is actually funny,
so amazing. So again rewinding fora second, Remember we said she stopped
taking communications from Disney. This includesthe fact that they were trying to contact
her to say bye bye. Shedidn't answer any of those. She basically
(14:39):
had them blocked, so she neversaw it. So she found out that
she got fired through tweets. Yep, the Twitter brought the firing news.
I just I'd love it. Ilove it so much. Ian It's it's
(15:03):
oh boy, are you there?Yeah? Oh sorry, you went really
quiet. Oh yeah yeah, I'mI'm still processing all of it. Um.
Yeah, so so she's she's uhyeah, she got the boot and
of course immediately she starts bitching andmoaning and blaming this on cancel culture.
(15:24):
Now look, I'm sorry, it'snot cancel culture. It's and you know,
a friend of mine said this,and I saw it retweeted at other
places. This isn't cancel culture.This is consequence culture. Okay, you
play dumb games, you win dumbprizes. That's just that's just how it
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is. This isn't you know,And this isn't about free speech because she's
free to say those things. Sheis absolutely free to be a hateful,
spiteful, misinformed bitch. She cando that to her grave. However,
her employer does not have to putup with that. No, yeah,
(16:07):
that's free. I can, youknow, walk into my job and say,
you know, fuck everyone here,I hate it and you know,
all these horrible things and then go, oh, well that's your opinion.
That's great, and this is yourlast day here. Yeah. And no,
that's not the same as being aprotected group of people. Correct.
It's not the same as firing somebodybecause they are because they are LGBTQ.
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That's not the same thing. Youare not persecuted because you have terrible,
terrible opinions. Yeah, it's yeah, oh man telling you it's the persecution
thing. I it's just it reallymiss me. It really really grinds my
(16:55):
gears. And so I think itwas yes, yesterday or the day before.
Oh well first so announced, Sotell us what she is going to
do now with Oh yeah, okay, so like a day later or not
even like maybe even the same day. I think it's a day later or
(17:15):
two because she needed time to process. Well, either this was either this
was thrown together haphazardly or they wereexpecting this to happen, and so these
wheels were already in motion. Sothe Daily Wire comes in and says that,
well, guess what, Corrado hasnow got a movie deal with us
and been my wife's vagina is adesert Shapiro, so you know she's found
(17:45):
her people. So good for her. Yeah, I just think it's hilarious
that they think that she can carryan entire movie by herself, because I'm
sorry, but the girl ain't thatgood, no, an, I mean,
she doesn't have a little fan base. I'll give her that she has
loyal followers and stuff like that,but we should also owe the other the
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other trending hashtag on Twitter was canceledDisney Plus. That was it? Oh
yeah, that was hilarious. Whereyou know, people are saying if this
person isn't on the show, whichby the way, she's not a lead
on the show. She's a supportingactor on the show. So yeah,
I can understand, you know,cancel Disney Plus if you weren't going to
have you know, Pedro Pascal anymorestuff like that, But not her,
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She's not worth canceling your Disney Plussubscription. Sorry, no, uh,
you know, cancel Disney Plus wastrending, which you know, at least
like ninety eight percent of those peoplewho said that aren't going to be canceling
their subscription or I mean whatever,even if they do, like it's it
literally does nothing or they do,it's gonna add back up. They'll probably
(18:53):
re up it again when something comesout that they want to see. Yeah,
sure, well, and I doa lot of people were you know,
saying they were going to turn tothe High Seas for their Disney content.
So it's not that's the thing.It's not even funny. They're they're
not going to stop watching, they'rejust not going to pay for it exactly.
Like also, maybe announcing that you'regonna pirate stuff online where there's a
(19:17):
trail of that isn't the best ideato do. Yeah, just a thought.
Just you texted me because I posted, you know, uh, cancel
Disney Plus when there's wand Division comingout, I don't think so yeah,
oh wow, I didn't because Idon't have notifications stuff. Uh. But
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yeah, So the whole thing waslike blowing up. And I didn't realize
it until Chris texted me saying,hey, uh, you need to check
your tweets, man, yes,check check the Twitter please. And I'm
like, okay, so h I'mlike I don't I don't know what that
(20:03):
means, but okay. And soI uh was like, well, the
trails came out of the woodwork basicallybasically basically, yeah, they were all
it was like it was like abunch of Gina boot liquors. Basically.
(20:25):
It was so embarrassing, which tome was very very funny. Yeah.
Yeah, you know, we don'treally we don't really feed trolls, so
we just kind of we just sortof laughed at it. That was that.
Yeah, but it was it wasI mean, people were like,
were you know, throwing shade andshit on Wan Division. I'm like,
wand division is fantastic. Fuck off. Yeah, I mean, you know,
(20:47):
like what you like, but it'sobjectively good. So yeah. Uh
so there's that. And then shealso, uh, let me go to
Yeah, here we go. Soshe after that about a day or two
later today sit down interview with BenShapiro, and it's on you Tube.
(21:08):
I did not watch. I watchedthe first like five minutes of it,
and I turned off because it wasstupid and ridiculous. Um. So basically,
he asked her, you know whathappened? You know, let's start
with, you know, the pronounsstuff, which Chris and I have talked
about before on the podcast. Yeah. Um. She doubles down on a
(21:30):
bunch of stuff. She blatantly,Uh, oh, where's the hang I'm
read the article, give me asecond. Uh yeah. She blantly starts
to lie about the go fund mepage that was started by fans and benefit
of the transgender gender community, whichwas not true. What did she say?
(21:52):
Uh? She said that where isit? Um? She said that
the go funding in question was away of showing the transgender community that we
as Star Wars fans don't stand bywhen people are being harmful and bullied.
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It was simply a way of showingthe trans community that we were here for
them, and we started the benefitof the Transgender Law Center. So Gina
says that it was started by acreative director from Lucasfilm, and that was
a lie. Yeah. So,and then when you look at the actual
go fund me for it just simplystates that it was started because of Chrono's
(22:36):
ignorance towards the importance of pronouns.Yeah. Well so yeah, uh he
she said that, you know,she's still friends with Pedro Pascal and they're
still cool and whatever, which isfine, I guess whatever. I find
(22:56):
that hard to believe. Yeah,because Pedro, ye, I'm trying to
think. So let's let's do arewind for a second, because I think
this all connects. Remember when wedid this whole rumors episode and we talked
about how okay, so the rumorswere saying that basically Pedro Pascal got into
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an argument with somebody in the castor the crew and walked off, and
you know, everybody was everybody wassuspecting that it was um like one of
the the film or the showrunners,you know, and like there was some
(23:42):
kind of disagreement and then nothing came, you know, nothing came at that
whatever. He was still obviously inthe show and whatever. But now now
that we come back to this,I am wondering if it was Gina h
that he got into a heated argumentwith. And here is why. So,
just before all this Genas stuff wentdown, or the most recent one,
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Pedro came out in support of thefact that his sister is trance and
by the way, incredibly stunningly beautiful. Yes, and he is, you
know, like world's coolest brother aboutthis and super super supportive of her,
and it's a whole it's super beautiful. The whole thing is really sweet.
So I mean, obviously he's knownthat his sister was transfer a while and
(24:27):
probably back when Gina started this wholeobviously transphobic narrative. So I would not
be surprised if there really was aheated argument on set and it was between
him and Gina Krono. Uh.Yeah, So that's that's my theory on
that. It wouldn't surprise me atall either, to be honest, So
(24:51):
for them to still be friends,I highly doubt it. I feel like
he's just plague nice for publicity.That's my feeling on the matter. That's
it could be quite possible. Um, but then she maybe he's just a
better person. I don't know.Well, yes, but then she also
said that she was bullyed by Disneyand bullied by Lucasfilm. That's so freaking
(25:12):
hilarious, which I don't I don'tknow how. No, like, literally
the bullshit that she posts is bullying. I mean, you know, she
talks about boohoo, the liberal snowflakesand stuff all the time like a girl
cool, you got such a thinskin. Look in the fucking mirror,
(25:33):
right, Like you lost your jobbecause somebody told you stopped running your mouth
about things that our company doesn't standfor it, and you kept doing it.
That's not bullying. That's consequence.Yeah, I do. I don't
hate this whole Oh, this isbullshit. This is cancel culture. No,
we have said before it is.It is consequence culture. Yeah,
there are consequences for your actions.Every what's the what's the word, what's
(25:57):
the what's the law? For everyreaction? There's an exactly, there's an
equal office of reaction. Yeah,yeah, there you go. Yeah,
so you know, sorry, folks, she blew it. I mean,
she blew having additional roles in TheMandalorian. She blew probably having her own
(26:18):
series. She And that's the thingtoo, Disney was going to announce the
the was The Rangers, right,yeah, the Rangers of the Republics,
and she was going to be thelead of that show. So yeah,
she I mean, I'm sorry shecan. Do you remember when they announced
all those shows back in November?Do you remember me saying it's kind of
(26:38):
weird that didn't runner for that.Yeah, for a show that's so close
to The Mandalorian and so close toprobably being in production that there's no front
runner actor or actress for this seriesyet. Yeah, no, I do.
He knew what it was doing anyway, it was going to be Gina
Holly. Yeah, so might was, which I think you agreed with me
too, because they should bring itand U uh uh, i'dnversio from.
(27:04):
I think it is so cool.I would love to see her as an
actual live character, yeah, playedby um givin a Gablanker, Yes,
because she's fantastic. Yeah, andshe did like the motion capture for it,
and she's an actual actress and stufftoo, So like I get her
in this role, she would bealive at this time. M hm.
So it could be very cool.In fact, they they've got a quite
(27:26):
a few um voice actors who areactual actors that they you know, motion
capture that look like their characters thatthey could absolutely bring in for live action.
So that would be cool. That'dbe cool to see um. But
yeah, yeah, she's just it'sjust so dumb. It's so that's the
thing for me to to be thatdumb, Like, was it really worth
(27:51):
it? Was it? Sure?Now she gets to be Now she gets
to be the pin up for fora right wing crazy people. You know,
she's never gonna have what she hadbefore. No, never, never,
never never. And you know whatwhen she when she hits over I
(28:11):
hate to say this, Oh mygod, I hate does this. When
she hits forty, they're gonna throwher away when she stops being hot because
we all know what right wing conservativesthink of women. Yep. So when
she what sucks is that like duringthe Mandalorian season one publicity and eating interviews
(28:36):
and like the celebration stuff, shegenuinely wanted to be like, she genuinely
like loved having fun on set,Like you see the behind the scenes documentaries
and stuff for a season two andseason one. She genuinely liked having fun.
She genuinely got along with you know, most of the cast and stuff
like that, Like she was havingfun playing this character. And it sucks
that she ye fucked her way outof this, Like she sucked herself over
(28:56):
so bad. And I was,I was, I was stoked to see,
you know, a different kind ofwoman represented in Star Wars, represented
in popular culture because we just youdon't don't see it very much. And
I think that really spoke to alot of people. Now, do you
think that it's gonna get recast?Are they're going to kill her off?
(29:19):
I think they're gonna kill her off. Yeah, I think it would be
too I think it'd be too awkward, too weird, or she just won't
to recast, that they won't heror something. Right, she got blown
up on the way somewhere. Ohwell oops, that she can go visit
all her Aldrandian friends and family.So sad. I just I can't see
(29:42):
another I can't see another actress wantingto step into that role. Well,
I was going to say, thereis a Twitter campaign. I have a
Twitter campaign right now for one looselylawless. Yeah, I mean, I'd
love to see her in the StarWars universe. I just I just think
that this role needs to to beput to bed. Yeah, if you're
gonna have her in Star Wars,do a different role that's maybe not tainted
(30:06):
right now. Yeah. No,it's just it's too it's too weird at
this point. I think, Yeah, and you know, maybe have her,
you know, be very much likeCardoom but not car Doom. Yeah
that makes sense. You can haveanother similar character and just do away with
Kara very much. So and yeah, so, but I mean the good
(30:26):
news is now we can watch seasonthree of them. Yeah. No,
after that, we can watch Rangersand season three. After that tweet,
we were both like, well,I guess we're done with the Mandalorian yep.
And here, you know, letme just put a disclaimer on this.
Obviously, we love we love thecontent that Disney puts out. Yeah,
(30:48):
we definitely enjoy it. We standit. We've been big fans for
our entire lives. Blah blah blahblah blah. That is not to say
that we are not also critical ofDisney as a whole. You know,
there are viously some big issues rightnow. Um, you know, the
genocide in China at the moment,and against supporting exion is no, no,
(31:10):
there, we don't have the rosecolor glasses completely. It's hard.
It's hard to be any kind ofcorporation and not be a little bit evil.
Yeah, in some way, it'sa little bit. It's it's kind
of inscapable. Um. I Imean, I just think that it's good
to be an informed consumer of something, you know that I try to be.
(31:36):
I try to just be informed andwhatever I do, you know,
I will still speak out against thefact that Disney supports China or looks for
you know, looks for them tomake funds to make Obviously, China is
a cash cow and in the Hollywoodsector, and I know that Disney is
hemorrhaging money from their parks right now. So I find it I find it
(31:59):
easy to believe that they won't becutting ties with China anytime soon. Um,
just because of the financial reasons.But I I, I mean,
it's in their best interests to doit eventually, and hopefully they will,
but it won't. They're not goingto. I mean, and it's not
just them, it's like it's it'sall of Hollywood. So it's that's that's
why I'm not darning away from themover this, because they all of Hollywood
(32:23):
catoos to China. That's just thatis just unfortunately the way things are right
now. They are just way toomuch of a financial presence in filmmaking for
Hollywood to turn away from them,which is a really really big shame.
Um. So hopefully you know therest of the world will be pressuring China
(32:45):
enough that they can stop acting likenazis. Yeah, but yeah, just
yeah, I just wanted to iteratethat we we know there are problems.
We obviously know they are problems withinthe corporation. We see that we're not
They're not perfect. Did they bullyJinacrano? No, they did not.
(33:09):
That is not That is not aproblem that they have. That is no,
that's not it. Yeah. No, So that being said, uh
yeah, that's our kind of ourbig to do. Yep. So there's
yeah, there's our thoughts on that. Yeah. Um yeah, so that
(33:35):
was we had We knew we hadto do an episode on it as soon
as it happened, but we justcouldn't put out right when it happened because
it was obviously not in the schedule. So yeah, and honestly, it's
still it's still a developing story.You know, stuff is still happening.
Yes, on her end, Ilike, you know, like she said,
she's freer than ever now to saywhatever she wants, like, you
know, like as if she wasmuzzled before. Right, So it'll be
(34:00):
interesting to see what kind of quackeryshe starts flapping about with her mouth in
the weeks to come. Yeah,nothing, nothing good, I'm sure,
but yeah, but yeah, no, you know it's not a big loss
you Oh god, No, Idon't. I don't mean like we don't
wish ill will on her. No, No, but I mean she she
(34:22):
made her own bed. Yes,so you know, either she may she
may become a martyr image for forthis particular facet of people, or you
know, she's gonna completely fade andpeople will forget her existence either way,
whatever whatever, I'm kind of I'mdone thinking about her. Yeah, it's
(34:45):
it's nice not having to, youknow, worry about it, I guess
anymore. Yep, she can go, she can go have fun with the
Shapiros and they're boring asss existence nowif anything else called that a god forbid
happens to this show. Jesus Christ, Oh my god, I know this.
This Moore show has been through thering. It's kind about two seasons
(35:07):
in. Yeah, and it's sofunny because because Petro Pescal is such an
obviously fantastic person. Yeah, hejust seems like such a great all around
guy. Well yeah, and ohwe should also say that Lucasfilm has told
Hasbro to immediately halt production on anycardoon action figures, toys, dolls,
(35:32):
trading cards and like that. Soif you happen to be a TOPS collector
and you happen to get a GinaCrono autograph, it may go up in
price. So if he even soldit, you know, maybe keep it
out for a little bit and seewhat you can get for it. You
should get one and then burn iton video. I think that would be
hilarious. I can get it forsuper cheap maybe, Yeah, No,
(35:54):
I mean like if you got likea random one. Oh, if I
pulled one, you mean, yeah, if you pulled one, just poof.
I don't know if they're if they'regoing for a lot of money,
I'll get some porce have to buyit off me. You'll you'll take some
some in cells money, Yeah,easily, q qan on in cell money
easily. I will gladly take thatand put it in my PayPal balance.
(36:16):
But yeah, so that about wrapsus up here. Um. You know,
it's it's an episode that we knewwas going to come eventually, we
just didn't know when. So we'reglad we can check it off our bucket
list. Yes, and I knowwe said we're gonna do more like Specie
spotlights and everything like that, butthis had to come first. So sorry,
guys. Oh yeahs very very presentin the media right now and important.
(36:40):
Yes, it's very kind of hotbutton. I guess what the word
would be. Yes, But sodon't forget. You can follow us at
Echo Station Cast on Twitter for allof our updates, tweets, memes,
all that good stuff. Chris isworking on Instagram at the moment for us,
so hopefully that will be on soon. Yeah. I will work on
that, I promise. But untilthen, where can they find you?
(37:04):
You can find me on Twitter atthe dirt Witch, and you can find
me on Instagram, although I'm notvery active right now, but I will
be soon at Chris Jaded that's jadedwith an edy at the end, and
then I am on Twitter at Iour Turner and then Instagram is House of
Turner. Cosplay recently did a Marvelphoto shoot, a socially safe marveled photo
(37:25):
shoot with some super guitars, supercute, so I'm gonna be posting a
lot of pictures on there. Cannotwait for that. And again, our
Twitter is at Echo Station cast.And also, don't forget to review us.
Drop us a review on Apple Podcast, because if you do that,
we can shout you out on ournext episode. So give those give it
(37:47):
those good ratings, and we willbe glad to shout you out. But
until next time, guys, stayhealthy, stay happy, and may the
Force be with you, May thevorse be with you.
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