May 15, 2024 • 51 mins
En este episodio, nos adentramos en el mundo de la transformación digital y el papel crucial que juega la inteligencia artificial con nuestro invitado, Gerardo Serrano.
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Temas Destacados:
- Transformación Digital: Su importancia para el crecimiento empresarial en la era moderna.
- Rol de la Inteligencia Artificial: Desde la mejora de procesos hasta la toma de decisiones estratégicas.
- Desafíos y Oportunidades: En la adopción de IA para innovar y crecer.
- Creatividad y Productividad: Potencial de la IA para impulsar la eficiencia y éxito.
- Educación y Desarrollo: Cómo la IA está cambiando el aprendizaje y desarrollo profesional.
- Mentalidad y Cambio Cultural: Cultivando una mentalidad de crecimiento y cambio para abrazar la IA.
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Hello everyone and welcome to a newepisode of the impact club. I am
Andrea Palacio, and today we aregoing to talk about the fascinating world of
artificial intelligence and its impact on ourlives. And it is that, today,
artificial intelligence is not only revolutionizing theway we work and communicate, it
is also transforming the way we learn, we believe, we develop ourselves personally
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and how we become more efficient insometimes very simple tasks, but that we
have in the day- to-day. Even thanks to now virtual assistants,
it is helping us even on mentalhealth issues. And before we begin,
I want to say that I knowthat this is a subject for many
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a bit controversial, because it issomething very new But because it is already
here and it is not going toleave, so we better learn to make
the most of it and to useit in our favor, and for this
I want to introduce Gerardo Serrano,the founder and if so. Gerardo is
an architect of digital transformation and coachspecialized in accelerating the vision of organizations.
He and his team believe in thepower of technology to boost growth and generate
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a positive impact on the world.Welcome, Gerardo to the Impact Club.
Thank you, Andrea, for youropportunity to belong to your community and,
therefore, to convey what we cancontribute. Te. I am very grateful
for the invitation and we are hereto serve you. Thank you very much.
Listen and notice this issue of artificialintelligence, because I think it'
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s something relatively new and I thinkthere are a lot of questions about it.
So, so we' re allon the same channel, why don
' t you tell us about itfrom the start, what artificial intelligence is
and what some of its most relevantapplications are today. Give it a great
deal and good that you comment onthis topic of novelty, because there are
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a couple of issues that need tobe clarified to everyone. Notice that the
subject of artificial intelligence of input isthe part of how it is composed.
This phrase that it is artificial andthat it is intelligent is practically born for
sixty years. The term is sixtyyears old, i e, six decades
old, and something that just cameup a couple of years ago was that
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the world found out about this termthanks to chadlipitil and all these language models
and made a boom in the term, but in terms so very practical and
intelligence, well it' s definitelynot new, definitely at all. There
have been many decades where attempts havebeen made and attempts have been made to
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make a robot that beat several worldchampions in chess and has been evolving this
since I was a chavito. So, really the term is not new and
in terms of what it is saylet' s not think about this issue
a little chaotic that machines are goingto become aware, let alone, all
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we can understand from artificial intelligence ismathematics. Be aware that everything is developing
in mathematical models. The only differenceis that today, having great computing power,
having so many computers and so manycircuits, with extraordinary computing power,
before, thirty years ago, wewere surprised that a computer multiplied three hundred
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million times faster than us. Well, the reality is that with this concept
of orvicial intelligence and this computational power, the reality is that today, a
capacity, a natural repetitive task oftoday, yes, an artificial intelligence of
today can make it five zero timesfaster than a human. So, it
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' s really not new. Theonly thing that changes is this disruption,
because it already apparently understands us aswe speak and apparently feel, but it
is not a world of training modelswith a tremendous amount of computation and a
great deal of computational power so thatit predicts that the phrase or solved to
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them a moment that follows. Butthat' s really pure mathematics applied to
a lot of power. Demented andnoticed that it caught my attention a lot.
In preparation for this episode, Iusually do a series of exercises and
one of them is to look forthe keywords of what people are looking for
around a theme. And here Icame up with something that really caught my
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attention and these questions came out.Look, who controls artificial intelligence, which
country is the leader of artificial intelligence? You could answer us who is,
who is the master mind behind artificialintelligence look. I could tell you that
it' s kind of an ecosystem, because really the owners of that of
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intelligence, the concept of the ideaare people who studied engineering, who violate
mathematics as their passion. But thesestatistical schemes, very engineering concepts that you
already know in the career they studymathematics and all of a sudden you say.
Oh, well, I don't know what I' m gonna
use it for. Well, forthat, I mean, really today,
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if we wanted to see all theadvanced mathematics you saw engineering in professionals.
Well, this combination of mathematicians andprogrammers. You can say that they are
the creators of this scheme. Butif you did it worldwide, then what
can I tell you? I mean, there are big capitals like Microsoft,
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like Google, like Amazon, thathave a lot of money, a lot
of liquidity to invest in these scientists, in these math programmers, but at
the same time there' s acompany like Mvidia, like AMD, that
' s the ones that build thecircums and the computers. So, really
who owns it. There are goingto be two major axes to the world,
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which is like when you pay Netflixa service and you' re going
to have to pay to consume thatservice of giving you benefits of artificial intelligence.
Or if you know a lot aboutmath and you like it, there
' s a universe where it's called open source, where you can
have your own artificial intelligence in yourhouse, like a television. Then there
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really is no such one, anowner of artificial intelligence. But there are
very powerful companies that are going tofight the cake and divide it between six
or seven stronger. Of course andthen, we' re going to see
how this develops. But in themeantime, why don' t you talk
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to us, Gerardo, what changes. You think that artificial intelligence today,
how far we go is r nt g snd in the way people think,
work, address problems, relate toeach other. What are these major
changes that I know you work alot on the mindset issue. How do
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you see the terrain right now?It' s interesting, because we'
re in the middle of a wave. They' re making the wave is
like the tip of the Iceberg andwell and you know that within our generation
and the generation below and the generationof digital natives the hundreds and in the
three generations that I' ve hada chance to work, I do see
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an interesting effect of the impact thatartificial intelligence is going to have, because,
on the one hand, many peoplewho don' t know what artificial
intelligence is, like this subject ofmathematics, are going to cause him a
lot of fear and it' sgoing to cause him some uncertainty of hijole
and all the jobs are going todie. And I won' t be
able to do anything anymore. Andyou know not all this fear that the
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world of nets is going to getover noise. And you know that that
digital noise, which ironically generates usa dopamine and which certainly makes us addicted
to satisfaction automatically becomes a kind ofbeing more afraid? Or more fear?
Or more fear? But at thesame time it entertains me then really the
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subject of what you can provoke artificialintelligence. It' s two axes.
The issue of having a level ofawareness, of deepening that really, if
I know how to use it,I can master my present and my future,
because I can learn these skills,of knowing and taking with this new,
with this new invention. I callit the new electricity. It'
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s like when electricity was invented,because those who had a washing machine of
mechanical clothes, because someone thinks aboutit, we' re going to do
an electric. It' s thesame principle. So I think it'
s an interesting moment for the veryyoung generation, who is very creative,
who is very eager to create ideas, who climbs into the wave and doesn
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' t generate this fear of thedigital world that provokes this topic of anxiety,
self- instinence, stress, thatis, we have to have a
level of consciousness to have a wave, but I do observe that it is
costing the millennials and us more workand theoretically this chip should work better for
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the centennials, for the young community, because I think they will understand very
quickly that getting into this wave isnot going to represent a mislearning of what
we already had in the past,because they were already born with this digital
speed. Sure, look at mepersonally It reminds me when the whole Internet
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boom started. I remember my primarythat we had the encyclopedia in letter to
the computer and so I did myhomework not and I started to evolve and
before that, I remember a lothow these beliefs of not now no one
is going to take a book,no one is going to not know or
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they are going to cheat in someway. They' re just copying it
now. And really, because,of course, these possibilities open up,
but they also opened up a lotmore. I don' t think so,
and I' m even saying what' s missing is the invention that
' s going to open the doorto something else, like in the future
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it was social media. It doesn' t make me super interesting notice that
researching a little bit about what youwere doing, I found a phrase that
I loved that you have on yourwebsite, that says technology without a change
of culture doesn' t transform inshape what you mean. With that there
is a very interesting term that peoplewho consider that digitizing it for some reason,
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the brain takes them to the worldof technology as that something digital automatically
relates it to something technological. Andthe reality is that it' s not
so, because being digital or havinga digital mentality is a simple mentality,
it' s an agile mentality,because being digital is already that term of
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ones and zeros or being gray symptoms. Our personality as human beings is that
we have a range of grays forour emotions, for our thoughts, our
moods, for our day, howit appears, that is, relationships.
There are many factors that, tothe human being, put us in reactive
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mode, in way as well asthat with many versions and being digital is
a concept that organizations consider that theymust have before investing in technology. It
' s like I' m tellingyou, hey, it' s just
that I' m really interested inbeing a great photographer right away, you
go and buy your iPhone. That' s not gonna make you a good
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photographer. Which is going to buyyou the great equipment or the great tool
or the great technology. He can' t get you those capabilities of what
you' re looking for. So, many companies invest in a lot of
money in tools because they don't live and they don' t prepare
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with a digital mindset, which isto make things simple, take emotions away
from processes, that is, thatrelationships don' t get involved in processes.
Hey, I just don' tlike Fulanito. Then the process will
make it different and that makes companiesvery inefficient. Then we start from the
thesis that we' re not goingto automate a mess. First let'
s change our mindset and prepare thepits before investing in technology, because we
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usually take some big surprises and getdisappointed when we buy it and don'
t prepare. Of course, itmakes the same thing as money, for
example. I mean, money justmakes you more than you already are No,
it' s not that it's really going to help you be
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different, or money changes people notnecessarily. It does more to you than
it already is. So power andso technology accelerates everything if we bring a
disaster in our life, because allwe are going to do is accelerate our
disaster, so to speak, exactlyspeaking of this, of the human mentality,
that is, with this as boomthat we are seeing of artificial intelligence,
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what are these parts as of thehuman mentality that you are seeing,
that are being more challenged or thatneed to be transformed by the presence of
artificial intelligence. Ok then, atthe outset, because one of the great
enemies that I see as to whatwe already live it, but we do
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not live it unconsciously, because thisis this part of the technology that has
been exploited and has taken care thatour neurological circuits give us many rewards and
that is why we do not pass. We spend hours at the end of
Tiktok, or on the Instagram feeor whatever you want and it makes our
brain have many satisfyings. So,somehow, thanks to the vicial intelligence,
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we are generating many satisfactions, butat the same time it generates a level
of distraction from what we should do. And that' s somehow not so
good, because we have to havea level of awareness that so much satisfaction,
the brain gets used to and anylittle thing we' re going to
do. This doesn' t boreme anymore. No, this already makes
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me lazy. It' s notthat I don' t. Then I
automatically approach today soon you return tothe cell phone, because there you pass
it well, then that context ofartificial intelligence in the sense of what it
causes in us first is an immediategratification in the sense that sometimes it does
not do what we have add theboom of data that there is where all
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the time it realizes that our eyesare with when you get a lot and
you can' t see well,so much information that flows along the streams
and networks that sometimes we have noway to sit and focus and say wait
I will make decisions and sometimes becauseof so much paralysis that is the effect
of paralysis by analysis is therefore noisethat we are receiving. That is a
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matter of the power that technology brings, with artificial intelligence and, obviously,
because we also evade the stress andanxiety of being doing these tasks that are
challenging and that or that bore mybrain better. We listen to them and
this whole subject of habits at theend of the day, these habits that
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we have to change. We considerand have already seen with companies like Google,
Amazon that have already started to havehabits and strong changes of internal behavior
where there must be moments of disconnection. Yes, we have to go into
a wave where we do have togo and leave the phone out for a
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while, because that' s automaticallygoing to be our brain breathing to take
care of that anxiety and focus,because otherwise the technology goes much faster than
our brain and that' s whywe' re well overwhelmed, well stressed
and well anxious. Wow, howinteresting this is what you' re saying.
I hadn' t seen it thatway, but, of course,
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it seems to me that from therecome as many feelings of procastination of why
I don' t feel like doingthings maybe these beliefs. Rather, instead
of helping me, technology is slowingme down, it' s being less
efficient and when really, because morethan being a subject of artificial technology,
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in itself, it is a subjectthat our minds are already somehow trained to
this instant gratification, this rapidity.And I plead guilty to Tiktok. When
I try to see a tutorial onYouTube, I' m already slow.
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When I' m looking for arecipe, I' m not looking for
it on YouTube anymore, I'm looking for it on Tiktok, because
it' s faster. I saywhy I' m going to watch a
half- hour video when in TiktokI have it in a minute. Not
sure, yes total and this topicand your brain begins to have these satisfyings
of that same hear instead of aminute to thirty seconds or whatever you want
or twenty say, no, becauseI already did. Then I say the
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negative effect that we at consumption levelhas official intelligence or technology. With this
extreme speed, there are also thingswe could do very, very, very,
very parents with arditial intelligence. There' s a tool that if we
want to start being aware of howto avoid this noise and how to start
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avoiding these dead times or these levelsof non- awareness of what' s
focused, there' s a verychida tool called forest, which is like
I don' t know if you' ve seen it, that inside your
mobile realizes it' s like atree. So every time you raise the
cell phone, that is, whileyou leave the cell phone, the tree
is growing and it gives fruit,and as you grab your cell phone,
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it' s withering. Then theissue of generating new habits to have an
approach. There' s a lotof tools. We have to bring him
your duis. There are many toolsthat, on the other hand, do
go to the other side of thecoin. If you say, hey,
focus, don' t stress,calm down, generate behavior habits, be
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conscious and are very powerful. So, as we know, technologies are usually
designed to do good to humanity,but sometimes capitalism and the level of desire
to make a lot of money globally, causes highly addictive technologies to be designed,
because they are experts in psychology andin the neural part to become addicted
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to these platforms. The one whodid know the truth right now, I
don' t remember the name,but she was a little flower and every
time you took a glass of water, you gave her the glass of water
and she lived and because you knowthat I was dying the little plant for
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not remembering gift Hey but to seeyou work in the field of business acceleration,
what are some of the main benefitsright now that we talked about,
well, some of the challenges.Let' s talk about the benefits artificial
intelligence gives us in terms of efficiency, operability, productivity. I don'
t know if you have an example. Yes, for example, we see
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from the last two years to enda boom for automating. Two important things
have to be defined for us.First of all, the subject of doing
tasks, repetitive tasks are generally alreadybeing automated, for example, in the
marketing area, in the collection area, in the billing area, in all
areas, even personal. So whenwe have an agenda and when we have
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a repetitive task structure. There aremany tools that we don' t need
to neglect programmer profiles, let alonewhere practically I can automate a repetitive stream
of tasks that I always do,and that helps me to have creative time
and focus time so that I cando what' s really different and everything
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that' s repetitive I can automate. There are many examples in companies that
the funnel of the marketing area togenerate leads, prospects customers or billing.
Virtually all those equal processes are literallyalready making them software. Let' s
call it that, but not necessarily. That' s artificial intelligence. Artificial
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intelligence goes when I want to getto the efficiency of the human or I
want to get over it, butwhen I really want to do the same
thing many times. I' mnot necessarily using artificial intelligence, although the
products are sold as artificial intelligence,but really what we' re doing is
just connecting to eat and then doingthis and then doing the other thing instead
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of But there are no complex mathematicalmodels there. The point is when they
tell you ah but I want youto do it ten or five or fifty
times more efficiently than the human.These mathematical models are already in there.
That' s one. The riskof having automation makes departments very efficient to
do the creative part. But don' t trust to lose the ability,
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because something that happened to us alot with the Google theme and happened to
us with the phones. It's just that in my generation I learned
myself or I got to know asmany as forty phones. Today I don
' t even know in mine thenthe ability of memory. The brain gets
used to what you need. Andif we' re giving it to you
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and you don' t need toknow by heart anymore, a phone doesn
' t matter and you have yourdevice. Problem is when you miss your
phone and you can go crazy.The issue is to be aware that the
repetitive can make the company very effectiveeven if it could tell you up to
fifteen twenty times, that is,automate processes. Today is the boom of
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small and medium- sized enterprises andtremendous success is being achieved and not necessarily.
People are getting fired with this tabooof ah you' re not going
to have to run because a robotalready does. That' s not true.
The important thing is to empower yourcollaborators to get up to know how
to automate so that you have timeto be more creative, clear and notice
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that now that you mention this exampleof marketing, I am going to share
the one that we started at thebeginning of this two thousand twenty- four
in lif startup, where I workand that is that the newsletters were written,
that is, the newsletters that wereto be sent throughout the year,
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but the posts of Linkedin had notbeen written. So, thanks to Chatchi
Pit, what we did was select. I don' t know December'
s newsletter that' s going tobe launched in December and tell him to
turn it into a Linkedin post.Change the language here and it' s
settled then, now that you don' t have to spend extra time having
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to think about other posts when youalready have this, which have the key
messages, which is already checked andeverything, but also what you mentioned is
good. But also at some pointwe must not lose the weakness of being
able to write, because not things, because what can start to happen is
that and I have seen, forexample, also on social networks, that
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in schools also they send them towrite a report or whatever and they already
put it with Chad Gipiti. Andthere are even tendencies in Tiktok for a
teacher to review one that wrote someonelike that with his brain and hands and
another that wrote to Chagi Piti.And yes, there are still a few
discrepancies, not total, not total, and something you say right now,
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you say. Ah we got intothe CHATPT and helped us to write,
to summarize, to synthesize, towrite it well as in spelling. But
when this evolves a little bit moreand now it is automatic since creation and
we no longer have to sit inthe chat, but rather with input,
with the idea that someone could haveread on Twitter and be able to pull
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that idea out of Twitter and travelwith this topic of flows that I tell
you about automation and get to tellChad gipit make this text simpler for me
without any human intervention. It's something that' s already started to
happen. I mean, really automation. It does cause a high level of
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efficiency and when we are the brake, that' s when automations are going
to grab a lot of strength rightnow. We' re still in the
boom to see. It helps mea lot to do it, but it
goes through a human stage of conversationand validation. We don' t delay
that many processes that there are onlymany that we don' t see them
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in the day- to- dayare already done in a practically automated way,
because this very week in my officethey put a robot to the boards
to take notes and finishing the boardsend us the minute, things that how
long ago everyone talks and you sayay that is this, or I even
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got the minute of a meeting thatI wasn' t in and super good
notes took. It' s notcalled fire. I don' t remember
what it' s called, butthese ones that integrate to zum and the
truth is that they start to seethings that they say and what' s
going to happen to assistant that nothing, just give it time to do something
more creative or prepare it to getalong better with these intelligences. But yes,
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it' s changing the world.I mean, yeah, it'
s changing the world on the subject. But we' re in the best
time. I' m already in, I' m generation XS and I
' m super excited to be livingthis time, because even when there are
noise issues and cloudy issues and somenoise that I' m not used to
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or I wasn' t used tothroughout my school or my profession and the
beginnings, today the theme is reallylame, because we can get on a
high- style wave and when Italk about lifestyle. I' m talking
about everything, not just having money, but having a very good balance to
take care of energy levels, ourinternal level, our level of relationships.
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I think this is the best timeto be able to make deeper human relationships
in general terms, because technology isnot allowing us with this level of automation.
The problem is that sometimes the workoholit like we bring it inherited from
past generations and add the noise,it gets more complicated. I think we
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have to have very conscious habits,more human, taking advantage of everything that
political intelligence helps, that artificial intelligencehelps us to be more human. That
' s the idea, that's the great idea, but we need
to educate our brain, because it' s already misled by ironic technology,
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or a word you' ve mentionedseveral times. It is now the subject
of creativity and I am very interestedin talking about it in the tone of
artificial intelligence, because it is alsounleashing conversations in the field such as art,
music, adalid teratura, design,because it is somehow impacting the total
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human creative process. How do yousee that this part is definitely developing if
the music industry, the photography industry, the film industry, the design industry,
you definitely realize that you are goingto create another genre, as well
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as there is a country music,a rock and classical music, there is
going to be a day music,that is, but really it is causing
these schemes to create video with asingle bron or create tremendous otorrealistic images,
because they are going to cause adisruption in the natural exercise that the human
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could make a design of these speedsthat were not too disruptive, these speeds
that are causing dali or, itis causing stable of fusion or any of
these engines that make you photos ormake you videos. The, the,
the, the Chinese video creation solutionis out. Then I think so.
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They' re changing industries, theywere going to change industries, but it
' s always going to be valuedas you say not the subject of abuno
made it 100 percent, 100 percentall human, like this movie that they
' re painting like with plasticine andthat they still value that kind of art
a lot. There' s practicallygoing to be a well- disruptive art
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with artificial intelligence, but if wedon' t get our hands on it,
and in effect, it' sgoing to be a genre where everyone,
it' s going to be acomposer, it' s going to
be an artist, it' sgoing to be a photographer. And the
only thing to do is to knowhow to speak to these algorithms you are
already and these mathematical models really totallygenerate what is known as the proms note
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that I am a fan of ChatiPiti and I promise you that it has
helped me to be more creative.Above all, I' m going to
open up and talk to them.How do I prepare the interviews of or
episodes when I record myself for thispodcast and sometimes I don' t have
clarity of what I mean, becauseI have a prompt chat GPT that I
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tell you I want to record anace song I want to record an episode
about this topic? Help me askme questions. I' m telling you
to ask me questions. Not thenthey tell me what you want to share,
what experiences are. I mean,like he interviews me and just doing
that exercise already helps me understand whatI mean. And it' s not
even that, like writing me theepisode, it' s more of an
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exercise, because socratic questions where Ifind out myself. But thanks to this
conversation, not sure, no,no, then it' s a wonder.
Yes in total, yes, Imean, it definitely helps me to
be more creative. I even thinkabout it the other day. I don
' t remember where I heard thisone. No, I didn' t
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create this idea myself, but Iwas very struck by the attention they said,
because for the singing artists, Idon' t know that now that
they say well, because they canalready record, you can put the voice
of Taylor Swift recording a band song. I don' t know who doesn
' t and it' s goingto record it and it' s going
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to look like it' s herwith her voice and that somehow it'
s scary. But, on theother hand, I say well, if
I' m an artist, becauseand I love Whitney Houston, then I
can fulfill the dream of doing aduet with Whitney Houston, of course,
and that' s the trend.I think at some point in time,
this which today causes Spotify to haveour playlists, our tastes. I do
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believe that before we reach two thousandthirty, according to what we tell you,
that I like it, there willcome a time when, depending on
your mood, you are inventing usa song of what we need at that
time ourselves and our main tastes.I do see in no less than five
years something that is happening like thisand that my playlist doesn' t even
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exist, my playlist is about theday of how much is being done practically
in real time, because the levelof data that there is and that computing
power and those investments that we seetoday being announced, where a lot of
capital is going to generate circuits andtesting it is going to start making its
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own circuits and everyone is going tostart getting into this world of energy efficiency
for the issue of generating much moreenergy. For this I do see that
it can change our life for good, the theme is that fear does not
govern us, because if we seeall the good and everything that has evolved
in the MT today, with diseasedetection, treatment and everything that causes artificial
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intelligence have clinical diagnoses, it ismuch greater the good than the bad.
The point is that it comes upand comes out more bad than good.
And in education, Gerardo, what' s your vision of what' s
going to happen? Just like Itold you a little while ago, I
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opened the encyclopedia in a letter,how you see it evolving into education issues.
I do, I think there's going to be a concept that
' s called a non- directededucation or nano, it' s a
segmentation lower than the micro and then, like I see it as a learning
process where, instead of giving usa video of a training class, I
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think that at some point, intime not too far away, the learning
process is going to be practically likewhat you just described, you generate an
idea, you want to learn somethingand through an interaction with an artificial intelligence,
the learning process is going to challengeyou to practice it, because you
know that to learn something you needto practice the knowledge you already read.
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Then I think the process of havingyou learn from memory a book and have
to learn you manual and everything.I believe that trificial intelligence is going to
lead us to action so that weare practicing, practicing, practicing so that
education and the learning process flow.But imagine that it' s going to
be like this how the feed appearsto be me and what I like,
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imagine that what you' re askingme, what you' re challenging me
is exclusively for me, for thelearning process that I' m living,
the same thing that happens on socialnetworks. But now imagine it or at
least I imagine it for education andwe will basically learn what makes us very
full, not necessarily what makes usgenerate more money. I believe that technology
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will give us the great opportunity tolive more fully than in pleasure. I
mean, we all know that todaywe live this subject of money and pleasant
moments like this ephemeral, but technologyis going to allow us not to live
to the extreme, like Wally's film, for example, of states
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all lying there, but to livefull in all the balance and to be
very clear that, if today isthe time to inspire and describe or tell
the arditial intelligence, help me writea poem for my son or my wife,
because it helps you, but atthe end of the day, you
' re inspired. I think that' s the way it goes. I
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think I totally agree and it's going to be very interesting to see
this topic of how artificial intelligence isgoing to somehow be able, because yes,
to customize the learning experience and adaptto the individual needs of each student
and even, because, in thesubject of evaluation or even student feedback,
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it also seems to me that thereis some opportunity and also a hundred percent
agreement on the subject of so,that this can even help us connect more
in the topic of personal development andgetting us into that area more. How
do you think we can, then, stay engaged motivated in our personal or
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even professional development, because in anenvironment full of technological distractions, full of
so many stimuli, ok me,I think the first thing we have to
do is to sit down to besilent, that is, to have silences
what I told you to leave theprocess a little bit to have as we
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exercise one now, but that weare even used to listening to an audio
book or listening to a podcast whileI exercise. I think that something on
the contrary is giving us some blurring. I think there are moments to be
disconnected. We have to work verywell. The issue of knowing, knowing
again, listening, having focus againis we lose focus today very quickly and
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we have to learn to communicate andgenerate what we told you, to generate
relationships. I think we need tostart building relationships, because that' s
going to give us a very strongempowerment. But we need to be aware
that creating relationships requires knowing skills,like listening, speaking good language. There
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we don' t know how totalk and I think the context is that,
it' s not being able toput on habits and use technological tools.
I' m telling you how totreilo. There' s one called
STEA focus. There is the theme, there is one that somehow the fact
that video games are this dopamine anesthesiaand that how we can replace the world
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of video game with a more usefultheme we will love to feel useful.
It' s very important that wementalize micro- accomplishing. One thing that
helped me a lot as a softwareengineer in the beginning is that having mycrologers
makes dopamine go back to what fatherhears. Yeah, I got this software
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and it works. That same thingthat we can schedule with mini achievements can
begin to replace the dopamine generated bya tiktok. Then I think we have
to sit down and mentalize in theear. I don' t want to,
I don' t want to reachthe impossible extreme goal, but to
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break our mind, in our weekand our day to do micro- achievement.
That I think is a good wayto re- educate the brain so
that we have more creativity, sothat we know, have more collaboration,
have to think more critically, havethe clarity to solve some problem, etcetera.
I mean, I think that andobviously, if you tell me to
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hear and what I could start studying, I say technology skills, not necessarily
programming. But if you get intothe world of this new chemical element that
was invented called viicial intelligence, I' ll dissuade you from learning to use
it. But try to generate thesebehaviors of disconnecting and generating microloans, because
microloans generate the emotion of wanting more. And that' s what I'
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m doing now I' m reallytrying to gamify real life by the little
medal he' s giving you.I do not know well the emotion that
gives you a fortnite, of alol or any, of the video games,
etc, or these games of videogames of casinos and these of the
cellulars that generate points or that generatethis, those achievements bring them to one
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more issue of productivity. And thatmakes us have the gap to say if
it' s too easy for meto get bored and if it' s
too hard something' s going tostress my heart out in finding the middle
center that' s so hard andstress me out and make it so easy
for me to get bored. Ithink that' s the challenge we have
every day. So, from whatI hear, you think that the subject
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of self- discipline today is fundamentalso that we don' t get lost
in this world of so many distractions, so many stimuli. Yeah, totally,
and I think it' s easierto listen to him today. Okay.
No, all of a sudden Isee kids who have like an alexa
alarm clock and they don' tpeel it and they just call it ki
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they keep sleeping then. But,on the other hand, if we use
these assistants to generate disciplines and weuse technology to re- educate our brain,
I think it' s more effectivetoday than someone, an adult to
a young man say hey does this, study this usually there we don'
t pay so much attention anymore.We are more inclined to listen to him,
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something that has no emotions today andwithout generating we were technological habits of
focus and disconnection, and I thinkwe could get to have very good.
It is a generation that has enormouspotential because they are highly creative and super
intelligent. The youths of this generationare humming and hearing a question right now
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that you said this about the attendees. Attendees are also considered artificial intelligence.
It' s a generation back,because what they were doing is they'
re listening and you tell them aiciriyor alexa whatever you want and they activate
the microphone and they detect the audiothat comes in, but just to execute
an action, I mean you tellthem I want you to turn off the
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light. It' s instructions yougive him instead of writing it to him.
So, the evolution that comes thanksto Openia and thanks to Google,
with these languages, with these languagemodels, is that, in fact,
there is already evolution where new peopleliterally attend are going to help the elderly
a lot to have an emotional conversationif they are alone, and that there
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is this interaction. There' san official intelligence called PI. So and
point there, which is the mostemotional and human connection, because it already
speaks to you. It' svery powerful and I don' t see
in less than a year that thenew version of these assistants comes where they
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not only serve you to put ona song or turn off the light,
etcetera, but you can already havea conversation that calms you, because not
at that moment. Of course,my grandmother is ninety- three years old
and she' s on wheels andthey put an alexa on her and she
' s happy to let you knowwhen you have to take her medicine.
If you want to call someone,tell them to call you everything, he
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' s very happy, but they' re inspections. Time to imagine you
can talk. That would be supercool, if you know. The truth
is, yes. And the otherthing that makes me laugh. At least
I tweeted it or I don't know what it would be like on
this platform of x Yes, theex exie, which gives me a lot
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of laugh, which I can't help. Tell Chad Gpit please.
Help me to tell you please andyou had many answers from me too I
do too, being very polite withChatchipit. That' s it, and
that' s it, tell megood. I think I wouldn' t
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be doing my job as a journalistif I didn' t ask you too,
because of some ethical challenges or concernsassociated with the use of artificial intelligence
and copyright and all that. Yeah, what an opinion you deserve. Yes,
definitely, yes, we have beenin academic programs of the MT,
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in Stanford studies, where it isspoken, in many communities where morals and
ethics are at stake, there aremany lacks of regulation. It' s
definitely something where you can cheat alot. I mean, that' s
the reality and it can also bethis topic of understanding that whenever you make
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the reference and whenever you say andyou' re used to not stopping your
neck from saying this it' syours and less so now that it makes
it harder to say it. Butthe issue of morality and ethics and misuse
of cheating through these models and sellingthings that are not or encapsulating things that
are apparently different and turns out notto be, is a great topic.
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I do, I do, Isee that just like there are the plagiarisms
of the songs and remakes of thefilms and that they pay fees when you
want to make a remake of amovie that worked in France and they want
to do it in the United States, because they make you a right thing.
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No idea The script' s yours. And I think that if tomorrow
I convert to cloud or p orDPT Chat and provoke a good script and
do something good, as long asI say this, I did it and
it' s not my authorship,because if I consume it in chatdimitives it
' s everything, then I do. I think we have to have integrity.
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I think it' s going tobe a question of integrity, and
it' s not the same asbeing honest, that being whole, that
I think being integrated is not corruptingyourself, because being honest, because it
' s not stealing and not transhending, but already when you corrupt yourself,
I think that' s where thebig issue of using technology comes from.
But yes, it is a greatsubject. I' m not telling you
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that all of a sudden you sayand this is either right or wrong if
we go into strong dilemmas, because, for example, the subject of what
they' re doing in the MTwhen trying to detect they put you on
are already doing an experiment that goesabove the novel how much percent where they
put you to describe a photo,then you record yourself in an audio whatsapp,
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a photo that you' re lookingat and you say to is a
photo where, well, there's a beach. And then, with
that audio and with that tone ofvoice and with that they are already able
to predict if the human being willbe able to have a disease like dementia
or Alzheimer' s in the nextten years but the fact of me giving
you of not asking permission from you, as a patient, to be part
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of the study. It' salready a matter of regulation, of morality
where I' m going to exposemy case that even privacy, privacy.
So, yes, it' squite a subject, it' s a
subject where today but we can helpthousands. Yeah, but you' re
using something that I didn' tgive you permission to use. I think
so, but it is a subject. The truth is that there is still
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a lot of nebula in how thisis going to be regulated. The countries
have already begun to block, becauseyou see what is happening in the United
States with tik Tok that if itis not sold, they will close it.
I mean, you' re startingto see a topic where globalization isn
' t going to be so globalanymore. I think we' re going
to have different sectors of the Internetin the world. I believe from what
I see, ok yes, becausejust now, after I don' t
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know how many fifteen years are startingto regulate social networks. No, I
don' t. I imagine thatwith artificial intelligence too, we still have
a bit of a legal vacuum.Yeah, and I know several friends who
are just starting to have babies andwho don' t say that just because
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of privacy and artificial intelligence issues,they don' t want to upload any
pictures. That' s because ofthe deep fage and everything that causes the
noise. And that yes and thatthere are people that are bad and that
are going to be a misuse ofthis tool. It' s a clear
yes total gerardo. Well, beforeclosing, there' s something I haven
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' t asked you that you wouldlike to comment on this topic, because
I really say I have clarity thatartificial intelligence isn' t a term I
say is not a term from myright perspective, because it' s really
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neither intelligence nor it' s soartificial, because mathematics is mathematics. I
think the subject is confusion. Weneed to be very clear about determining what
it is and studying and knowing whatpiece we put our beliefs in. As
for artificial intelligence, I think it' s the first thing and understand who
invents these models and who invents thesethings. I think that it is entirely
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for the global good of the worldand that it is obviously like what happens
with bombs, it is not agood experiment, but at the end of
the day they can be used forevils. I think the point is to
have a lot of awareness. Ibelieve that my main theme today, with
the young people working with us oreven with my children, or whatever,
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is to disconnect. A moment foryour Brain to breathe and that theme of
breathing your Brain and not this boomof confusion and noise, make your Brain
clear to better understand things and beable to do what we should be doing.
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Because I think it' s agood father moment, very exciting.
So I think that you can achievea lot of quality of life for everyone,
minimize inequality a lot, which iswhat draws me a lot of attention
to the blind man of open Thereis that he is convinced that artificial intelligence
is really so that inequality is practicallyreduced to the maximum possible. The issue
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is all that surrounds interests but ifwe unfocus and disconnect rather to focus.
I think it' s step numberone that I would do this year,
because things come very very disruptive,very exciting, but that doesn' t
generate fear, of course, todisconnect to focus and how interesting everything we
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' ve talked about. Thank youvery much, Gerardo. I love talking
to someone so positive, with somuch hope for the future, with so
much excitement about all this. Inuncertainty it is sometimes the only thing left
for us to have no hope,and hope is to expect things to work
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out as best as possible, eventhough we do not have control of them.
I thank you so much. Notthe other way around, Andrén Likes
to be here and what do Itell you, nothing. Indeed, very
motivated and also inviting everyone to reallyget on the wave of understanding what this
is and not being afraid of it. The truth is not so cool,
of course, and that this alsoleads us, as we said at the
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beginning, to make human beings,which is the end of what we are
here. That is not to dehumanizethat, on the contrary, to humanize
us more. No. Thank youvery much and thank you very much for
the time also and with you likethe truth. Thank you very much and
thank you all for coming up tothis moment, because you know if you
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know of someone who is very interestedin this topic or in the episode you
thought of someone who said ay thisperson, my cousin, my friend,
right now put on the share buttonand send it to him, which is
also a way to connect and fosterour relationships and I would love to hear
what and read what you think aboutsocial networks or here in the episode in
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Spotify. Thanks for being here.I' ll send you a kiss and
listen to each other in the nextyou remember the impact you want to see
in the world. Toby Look atwhat Güey Media
Hello everyone and welcome to a newepisode of the impact club. I am
Andrea Palacio, and today we aregoing to talk about the fascinating world of
artificial intelligence and its impact on ourlives. And it is that, today,
artificial intelligence is not only revolutionizing theway we work and communicate, it
is also transforming the way we learn, we believe, we develop ourselves personally
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and how we become more efficient insometimes very simple tasks, but that we
have in the day- to-day. Even thanks to now virtual assistants,
it is helping us even on mentalhealth issues. And before we begin,
I want to say that I knowthat this is a subject for many
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a bit controversial, because it issomething very new But because it is already
here and it is not going toleave, so we better learn to make
the most of it and to useit in our favor, and for this
I want to introduce Gerardo Serrano,the founder and if so. Gerardo is
an architect of digital transformation and coachspecialized in accelerating the vision of organizations.
He and his team believe in thepower of technology to boost growth and generate
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a positive impact on the world.Welcome, Gerardo to the Impact Club.
Thank you, Andrea, for youropportunity to belong to your community and,
therefore, to convey what we cancontribute. Te. I am very grateful
for the invitation and we are hereto serve you. Thank you very much.
Listen and notice this issue of artificialintelligence, because I think it'
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s something relatively new and I thinkthere are a lot of questions about it.
So, so we' re allon the same channel, why don
' t you tell us about itfrom the start, what artificial intelligence is
and what some of its most relevantapplications are today. Give it a great
deal and good that you comment onthis topic of novelty, because there are
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a couple of issues that need tobe clarified to everyone. Notice that the
subject of artificial intelligence of input isthe part of how it is composed.
This phrase that it is artificial andthat it is intelligent is practically born for
sixty years. The term is sixtyyears old, i e, six decades
old, and something that just cameup a couple of years ago was that
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the world found out about this termthanks to chadlipitil and all these language models
and made a boom in the term, but in terms so very practical and
intelligence, well it' s definitelynot new, definitely at all. There
have been many decades where attempts havebeen made and attempts have been made to
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make a robot that beat several worldchampions in chess and has been evolving this
since I was a chavito. So, really the term is not new and
in terms of what it is saylet' s not think about this issue
a little chaotic that machines are goingto become aware, let alone, all
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we can understand from artificial intelligence ismathematics. Be aware that everything is developing
in mathematical models. The only differenceis that today, having great computing power,
having so many computers and so manycircuits, with extraordinary computing power,
before, thirty years ago, wewere surprised that a computer multiplied three hundred
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million times faster than us. Well, the reality is that with this concept
of orvicial intelligence and this computational power, the reality is that today, a
capacity, a natural repetitive task oftoday, yes, an artificial intelligence of
today can make it five zero timesfaster than a human. So, it
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' s really not new. Theonly thing that changes is this disruption,
because it already apparently understands us aswe speak and apparently feel, but it
is not a world of training modelswith a tremendous amount of computation and a
great deal of computational power so thatit predicts that the phrase or solved to
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them a moment that follows. Butthat' s really pure mathematics applied to
a lot of power. Demented andnoticed that it caught my attention a lot.
In preparation for this episode, Iusually do a series of exercises and
one of them is to look forthe keywords of what people are looking for
around a theme. And here Icame up with something that really caught my
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attention and these questions came out.Look, who controls artificial intelligence, which
country is the leader of artificial intelligence? You could answer us who is,
who is the master mind behind artificialintelligence look. I could tell you that
it' s kind of an ecosystem, because really the owners of that of
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intelligence, the concept of the ideaare people who studied engineering, who violate
mathematics as their passion. But thesestatistical schemes, very engineering concepts that you
already know in the career they studymathematics and all of a sudden you say.
Oh, well, I don't know what I' m gonna
use it for. Well, forthat, I mean, really today,
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if we wanted to see all theadvanced mathematics you saw engineering in professionals.
Well, this combination of mathematicians andprogrammers. You can say that they are
the creators of this scheme. Butif you did it worldwide, then what
can I tell you? I mean, there are big capitals like Microsoft,
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like Google, like Amazon, thathave a lot of money, a lot
of liquidity to invest in these scientists, in these math programmers, but at
the same time there' s acompany like Mvidia, like AMD, that
' s the ones that build thecircums and the computers. So, really
who owns it. There are goingto be two major axes to the world,
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which is like when you pay Netflixa service and you' re going
to have to pay to consume thatservice of giving you benefits of artificial intelligence.
Or if you know a lot aboutmath and you like it, there
' s a universe where it's called open source, where you can
have your own artificial intelligence in yourhouse, like a television. Then there
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really is no such one, anowner of artificial intelligence. But there are
very powerful companies that are going tofight the cake and divide it between six
or seven stronger. Of course andthen, we' re going to see
how this develops. But in themeantime, why don' t you talk
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to us, Gerardo, what changes. You think that artificial intelligence today,
how far we go is r nt g snd in the way people think,
work, address problems, relate toeach other. What are these major
changes that I know you work alot on the mindset issue. How do
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you see the terrain right now?It' s interesting, because we'
re in the middle of a wave. They' re making the wave is
like the tip of the Iceberg andwell and you know that within our generation
and the generation below and the generationof digital natives the hundreds and in the
three generations that I' ve hada chance to work, I do see
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an interesting effect of the impact thatartificial intelligence is going to have, because,
on the one hand, many peoplewho don' t know what artificial
intelligence is, like this subject ofmathematics, are going to cause him a
lot of fear and it' sgoing to cause him some uncertainty of hijole
and all the jobs are going todie. And I won' t be
able to do anything anymore. Andyou know not all this fear that the
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world of nets is going to getover noise. And you know that that
digital noise, which ironically generates usa dopamine and which certainly makes us addicted
to satisfaction automatically becomes a kind ofbeing more afraid? Or more fear?
Or more fear? But at thesame time it entertains me then really the
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subject of what you can provoke artificialintelligence. It' s two axes.
The issue of having a level ofawareness, of deepening that really, if
I know how to use it,I can master my present and my future,
because I can learn these skills,of knowing and taking with this new,
with this new invention. I callit the new electricity. It'
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s like when electricity was invented,because those who had a washing machine of
mechanical clothes, because someone thinks aboutit, we' re going to do
an electric. It' s thesame principle. So I think it'
s an interesting moment for the veryyoung generation, who is very creative,
who is very eager to create ideas, who climbs into the wave and doesn
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' t generate this fear of thedigital world that provokes this topic of anxiety,
self- instinence, stress, thatis, we have to have a
level of consciousness to have a wave, but I do observe that it is
costing the millennials and us more workand theoretically this chip should work better for
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the centennials, for the young community, because I think they will understand very
quickly that getting into this wave isnot going to represent a mislearning of what
we already had in the past,because they were already born with this digital
speed. Sure, look at mepersonally It reminds me when the whole Internet
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boom started. I remember my primarythat we had the encyclopedia in letter to
the computer and so I did myhomework not and I started to evolve and
before that, I remember a lothow these beliefs of not now no one
is going to take a book,no one is going to not know or
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they are going to cheat in someway. They' re just copying it
now. And really, because,of course, these possibilities open up,
but they also opened up a lotmore. I don' t think so,
and I' m even saying what' s missing is the invention that
' s going to open the doorto something else, like in the future
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it was social media. It doesn' t make me super interesting notice that
researching a little bit about what youwere doing, I found a phrase that
I loved that you have on yourwebsite, that says technology without a change
of culture doesn' t transform inshape what you mean. With that there
is a very interesting term that peoplewho consider that digitizing it for some reason,
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the brain takes them to the worldof technology as that something digital automatically
relates it to something technological. Andthe reality is that it' s not
so, because being digital or havinga digital mentality is a simple mentality,
it' s an agile mentality,because being digital is already that term of
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ones and zeros or being gray symptoms. Our personality as human beings is that
we have a range of grays forour emotions, for our thoughts, our
moods, for our day, howit appears, that is, relationships.
There are many factors that, tothe human being, put us in reactive
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mode, in way as well asthat with many versions and being digital is
a concept that organizations consider that theymust have before investing in technology. It
' s like I' m tellingyou, hey, it' s just
that I' m really interested inbeing a great photographer right away, you
go and buy your iPhone. That' s not gonna make you a good
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photographer. Which is going to buyyou the great equipment or the great tool
or the great technology. He can' t get you those capabilities of what
you' re looking for. So, many companies invest in a lot of
money in tools because they don't live and they don' t prepare
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with a digital mindset, which isto make things simple, take emotions away
from processes, that is, thatrelationships don' t get involved in processes.
Hey, I just don' tlike Fulanito. Then the process will
make it different and that makes companiesvery inefficient. Then we start from the
thesis that we' re not goingto automate a mess. First let'
s change our mindset and prepare thepits before investing in technology, because we
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usually take some big surprises and getdisappointed when we buy it and don'
t prepare. Of course, itmakes the same thing as money, for
example. I mean, money justmakes you more than you already are No,
it' s not that it's really going to help you be
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different, or money changes people notnecessarily. It does more to you than
it already is. So power andso technology accelerates everything if we bring a
disaster in our life, because allwe are going to do is accelerate our
disaster, so to speak, exactlyspeaking of this, of the human mentality,
that is, with this as boomthat we are seeing of artificial intelligence,
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what are these parts as of thehuman mentality that you are seeing,
that are being more challenged or thatneed to be transformed by the presence of
artificial intelligence. Ok then, atthe outset, because one of the great
enemies that I see as to whatwe already live it, but we do
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not live it unconsciously, because thisis this part of the technology that has
been exploited and has taken care thatour neurological circuits give us many rewards and
that is why we do not pass. We spend hours at the end of
Tiktok, or on the Instagram feeor whatever you want and it makes our
brain have many satisfyings. So,somehow, thanks to the vicial intelligence,
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we are generating many satisfactions, butat the same time it generates a level
of distraction from what we should do. And that' s somehow not so
good, because we have to havea level of awareness that so much satisfaction,
the brain gets used to and anylittle thing we' re going to
do. This doesn' t boreme anymore. No, this already makes
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me lazy. It' s notthat I don' t. Then I
automatically approach today soon you return tothe cell phone, because there you pass
it well, then that context ofartificial intelligence in the sense of what it
causes in us first is an immediategratification in the sense that sometimes it does
not do what we have add theboom of data that there is where all
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the time it realizes that our eyesare with when you get a lot and
you can' t see well,so much information that flows along the streams
and networks that sometimes we have noway to sit and focus and say wait
I will make decisions and sometimes becauseof so much paralysis that is the effect
of paralysis by analysis is therefore noisethat we are receiving. That is a
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matter of the power that technology brings, with artificial intelligence and, obviously,
because we also evade the stress andanxiety of being doing these tasks that are
challenging and that or that bore mybrain better. We listen to them and
this whole subject of habits at theend of the day, these habits that
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we have to change. We considerand have already seen with companies like Google,
Amazon that have already started to havehabits and strong changes of internal behavior
where there must be moments of disconnection. Yes, we have to go into
a wave where we do have togo and leave the phone out for a
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while, because that' s automaticallygoing to be our brain breathing to take
care of that anxiety and focus,because otherwise the technology goes much faster than
our brain and that' s whywe' re well overwhelmed, well stressed
and well anxious. Wow, howinteresting this is what you' re saying.
I hadn' t seen it thatway, but, of course,
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it seems to me that from therecome as many feelings of procastination of why
I don' t feel like doingthings maybe these beliefs. Rather, instead
of helping me, technology is slowingme down, it' s being less
efficient and when really, because morethan being a subject of artificial technology,
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in itself, it is a subjectthat our minds are already somehow trained to
this instant gratification, this rapidity.And I plead guilty to Tiktok. When
I try to see a tutorial onYouTube, I' m already slow.
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When I' m looking for arecipe, I' m not looking for
it on YouTube anymore, I'm looking for it on Tiktok, because
it' s faster. I saywhy I' m going to watch a
half- hour video when in TiktokI have it in a minute. Not
sure, yes total and this topicand your brain begins to have these satisfyings
of that same hear instead of aminute to thirty seconds or whatever you want
or twenty say, no, becauseI already did. Then I say the
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negative effect that we at consumption levelhas official intelligence or technology. With this
extreme speed, there are also thingswe could do very, very, very,
very parents with arditial intelligence. There' s a tool that if we
want to start being aware of howto avoid this noise and how to start
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avoiding these dead times or these levelsof non- awareness of what' s
focused, there' s a verychida tool called forest, which is like
I don' t know if you' ve seen it, that inside your
mobile realizes it' s like atree. So every time you raise the
cell phone, that is, whileyou leave the cell phone, the tree
is growing and it gives fruit,and as you grab your cell phone,
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it' s withering. Then theissue of generating new habits to have an
approach. There' s a lotof tools. We have to bring him
your duis. There are many toolsthat, on the other hand, do
go to the other side of thecoin. If you say, hey,
focus, don' t stress,calm down, generate behavior habits, be
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conscious and are very powerful. So, as we know, technologies are usually
designed to do good to humanity,but sometimes capitalism and the level of desire
to make a lot of money globally, causes highly addictive technologies to be designed,
because they are experts in psychology andin the neural part to become addicted
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to these platforms. The one whodid know the truth right now, I
don' t remember the name,but she was a little flower and every
time you took a glass of water, you gave her the glass of water
and she lived and because you knowthat I was dying the little plant for
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not remembering gift Hey but to seeyou work in the field of business acceleration,
what are some of the main benefitsright now that we talked about,
well, some of the challenges.Let' s talk about the benefits artificial
intelligence gives us in terms of efficiency, operability, productivity. I don'
t know if you have an example. Yes, for example, we see
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from the last two years to enda boom for automating. Two important things
have to be defined for us.First of all, the subject of doing
tasks, repetitive tasks are generally alreadybeing automated, for example, in the
marketing area, in the collection area, in the billing area, in all
areas, even personal. So whenwe have an agenda and when we have
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a repetitive task structure. There aremany tools that we don' t need
to neglect programmer profiles, let alonewhere practically I can automate a repetitive stream
of tasks that I always do,and that helps me to have creative time
and focus time so that I cando what' s really different and everything
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that' s repetitive I can automate. There are many examples in companies that
the funnel of the marketing area togenerate leads, prospects customers or billing.
Virtually all those equal processes are literallyalready making them software. Let' s
call it that, but not necessarily. That' s artificial intelligence. Artificial
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intelligence goes when I want to getto the efficiency of the human or I
want to get over it, butwhen I really want to do the same
thing many times. I' mnot necessarily using artificial intelligence, although the
products are sold as artificial intelligence,but really what we' re doing is
just connecting to eat and then doingthis and then doing the other thing instead
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of But there are no complex mathematicalmodels there. The point is when they
tell you ah but I want youto do it ten or five or fifty
times more efficiently than the human.These mathematical models are already in there.
That' s one. The riskof having automation makes departments very efficient to
do the creative part. But don' t trust to lose the ability,
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because something that happened to us alot with the Google theme and happened to
us with the phones. It's just that in my generation I learned
myself or I got to know asmany as forty phones. Today I don
' t even know in mine thenthe ability of memory. The brain gets
used to what you need. Andif we' re giving it to you
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and you don' t need toknow by heart anymore, a phone doesn
' t matter and you have yourdevice. Problem is when you miss your
phone and you can go crazy.The issue is to be aware that the
repetitive can make the company very effectiveeven if it could tell you up to
fifteen twenty times, that is,automate processes. Today is the boom of
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small and medium- sized enterprises andtremendous success is being achieved and not necessarily.
People are getting fired with this tabooof ah you' re not going
to have to run because a robotalready does. That' s not true.
The important thing is to empower yourcollaborators to get up to know how
to automate so that you have timeto be more creative, clear and notice
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that now that you mention this exampleof marketing, I am going to share
the one that we started at thebeginning of this two thousand twenty- four
in lif startup, where I workand that is that the newsletters were written,
that is, the newsletters that wereto be sent throughout the year,
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but the posts of Linkedin had notbeen written. So, thanks to Chatchi
Pit, what we did was select. I don' t know December'
s newsletter that' s going tobe launched in December and tell him to
turn it into a Linkedin post.Change the language here and it' s
settled then, now that you don' t have to spend extra time having
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to think about other posts when youalready have this, which have the key
messages, which is already checked andeverything, but also what you mentioned is
good. But also at some pointwe must not lose the weakness of being
able to write, because not things, because what can start to happen is
that and I have seen, forexample, also on social networks, that
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in schools also they send them towrite a report or whatever and they already
put it with Chad Gipiti. Andthere are even tendencies in Tiktok for a
teacher to review one that wrote someonelike that with his brain and hands and
another that wrote to Chagi Piti.And yes, there are still a few
discrepancies, not total, not total, and something you say right now,
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you say. Ah we got intothe CHATPT and helped us to write,
to summarize, to synthesize, towrite it well as in spelling. But
when this evolves a little bit moreand now it is automatic since creation and
we no longer have to sit inthe chat, but rather with input,
with the idea that someone could haveread on Twitter and be able to pull
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that idea out of Twitter and travelwith this topic of flows that I tell
you about automation and get to tellChad gipit make this text simpler for me
without any human intervention. It's something that' s already started to
happen. I mean, really automation. It does cause a high level of
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efficiency and when we are the brake, that' s when automations are going
to grab a lot of strength rightnow. We' re still in the
boom to see. It helps mea lot to do it, but it
goes through a human stage of conversationand validation. We don' t delay
that many processes that there are onlymany that we don' t see them
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in the day- to- dayare already done in a practically automated way,
because this very week in my officethey put a robot to the boards
to take notes and finishing the boardsend us the minute, things that how
long ago everyone talks and you sayay that is this, or I even
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got the minute of a meeting thatI wasn' t in and super good
notes took. It' s notcalled fire. I don' t remember
what it' s called, butthese ones that integrate to zum and the
truth is that they start to seethings that they say and what' s
going to happen to assistant that nothing, just give it time to do something
more creative or prepare it to getalong better with these intelligences. But yes,
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it' s changing the world.I mean, yeah, it'
s changing the world on the subject. But we' re in the best
time. I' m already in, I' m generation XS and I
' m super excited to be livingthis time, because even when there are
noise issues and cloudy issues and somenoise that I' m not used to
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or I wasn' t used tothroughout my school or my profession and the
beginnings, today the theme is reallylame, because we can get on a
high- style wave and when Italk about lifestyle. I' m talking
about everything, not just having money, but having a very good balance to
take care of energy levels, ourinternal level, our level of relationships.
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I think this is the best timeto be able to make deeper human relationships
in general terms, because technology isnot allowing us with this level of automation.
The problem is that sometimes the workoholit like we bring it inherited from
past generations and add the noise,it gets more complicated. I think we
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have to have very conscious habits,more human, taking advantage of everything that
political intelligence helps, that artificial intelligencehelps us to be more human. That
' s the idea, that's the great idea, but we need
to educate our brain, because it' s already misled by ironic technology,
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or a word you' ve mentionedseveral times. It is now the subject
of creativity and I am very interestedin talking about it in the tone of
artificial intelligence, because it is alsounleashing conversations in the field such as art,
music, adalid teratura, design,because it is somehow impacting the total
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human creative process. How do yousee that this part is definitely developing if
the music industry, the photography industry, the film industry, the design industry,
you definitely realize that you are goingto create another genre, as well
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as there is a country music,a rock and classical music, there is
going to be a day music,that is, but really it is causing
these schemes to create video with asingle bron or create tremendous otorrealistic images,
because they are going to cause adisruption in the natural exercise that the human
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could make a design of these speedsthat were not too disruptive, these speeds
that are causing dali or, itis causing stable of fusion or any of
these engines that make you photos ormake you videos. The, the,
the, the Chinese video creation solutionis out. Then I think so.
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They' re changing industries, theywere going to change industries, but it
' s always going to be valuedas you say not the subject of abuno
made it 100 percent, 100 percentall human, like this movie that they
' re painting like with plasticine andthat they still value that kind of art
a lot. There' s practicallygoing to be a well- disruptive art
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with artificial intelligence, but if wedon' t get our hands on it,
and in effect, it' sgoing to be a genre where everyone,
it' s going to be acomposer, it' s going to
be an artist, it' sgoing to be a photographer. And the
only thing to do is to knowhow to speak to these algorithms you are
already and these mathematical models really totallygenerate what is known as the proms note
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that I am a fan of ChatiPiti and I promise you that it has
helped me to be more creative.Above all, I' m going to
open up and talk to them.How do I prepare the interviews of or
episodes when I record myself for thispodcast and sometimes I don' t have
clarity of what I mean, becauseI have a prompt chat GPT that I
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tell you I want to record anace song I want to record an episode
about this topic? Help me askme questions. I' m telling you
to ask me questions. Not thenthey tell me what you want to share,
what experiences are. I mean,like he interviews me and just doing
that exercise already helps me understand whatI mean. And it' s not
even that, like writing me theepisode, it' s more of an
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exercise, because socratic questions where Ifind out myself. But thanks to this
conversation, not sure, no,no, then it' s a wonder.
Yes in total, yes, Imean, it definitely helps me to
be more creative. I even thinkabout it the other day. I don
' t remember where I heard thisone. No, I didn' t
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create this idea myself, but Iwas very struck by the attention they said,
because for the singing artists, Idon' t know that now that
they say well, because they canalready record, you can put the voice
of Taylor Swift recording a band song. I don' t know who doesn
' t and it' s goingto record it and it' s going
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to look like it' s herwith her voice and that somehow it'
s scary. But, on theother hand, I say well, if
I' m an artist, becauseand I love Whitney Houston, then I
can fulfill the dream of doing aduet with Whitney Houston, of course,
and that' s the trend.I think at some point in time,
this which today causes Spotify to haveour playlists, our tastes. I do
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believe that before we reach two thousandthirty, according to what we tell you,
that I like it, there willcome a time when, depending on
your mood, you are inventing usa song of what we need at that
time ourselves and our main tastes.I do see in no less than five
years something that is happening like thisand that my playlist doesn' t even
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exist, my playlist is about theday of how much is being done practically
in real time, because the levelof data that there is and that computing
power and those investments that we seetoday being announced, where a lot of
capital is going to generate circuits andtesting it is going to start making its
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own circuits and everyone is going tostart getting into this world of energy efficiency
for the issue of generating much moreenergy. For this I do see that
it can change our life for good, the theme is that fear does not
govern us, because if we seeall the good and everything that has evolved
in the MT today, with diseasedetection, treatment and everything that causes artificial
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intelligence have clinical diagnoses, it ismuch greater the good than the bad.
The point is that it comes upand comes out more bad than good.
And in education, Gerardo, what' s your vision of what' s
going to happen? Just like Itold you a little while ago, I
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opened the encyclopedia in a letter,how you see it evolving into education issues.
I do, I think there's going to be a concept that
' s called a non- directededucation or nano, it' s a
segmentation lower than the micro and then, like I see it as a learning
process where, instead of giving usa video of a training class, I
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think that at some point, intime not too far away, the learning
process is going to be practically likewhat you just described, you generate an
idea, you want to learn somethingand through an interaction with an artificial intelligence,
the learning process is going to challengeyou to practice it, because you
know that to learn something you needto practice the knowledge you already read.
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Then I think the process of havingyou learn from memory a book and have
to learn you manual and everything.I believe that trificial intelligence is going to
lead us to action so that weare practicing, practicing, practicing so that
education and the learning process flow.But imagine that it' s going to
be like this how the feed appearsto be me and what I like,
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imagine that what you' re askingme, what you' re challenging me
is exclusively for me, for thelearning process that I' m living,
the same thing that happens on socialnetworks. But now imagine it or at
least I imagine it for education andwe will basically learn what makes us very
full, not necessarily what makes usgenerate more money. I believe that technology
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will give us the great opportunity tolive more fully than in pleasure. I
mean, we all know that todaywe live this subject of money and pleasant
moments like this ephemeral, but technologyis going to allow us not to live
to the extreme, like Wally's film, for example, of states
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all lying there, but to livefull in all the balance and to be
very clear that, if today isthe time to inspire and describe or tell
the arditial intelligence, help me writea poem for my son or my wife,
because it helps you, but atthe end of the day, you
' re inspired. I think that' s the way it goes. I
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think I totally agree and it's going to be very interesting to see
this topic of how artificial intelligence isgoing to somehow be able, because yes,
to customize the learning experience and adaptto the individual needs of each student
and even, because, in thesubject of evaluation or even student feedback,
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it also seems to me that thereis some opportunity and also a hundred percent
agreement on the subject of so,that this can even help us connect more
in the topic of personal development andgetting us into that area more. How
do you think we can, then, stay engaged motivated in our personal or
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even professional development, because in anenvironment full of technological distractions, full of
so many stimuli, ok me,I think the first thing we have to
do is to sit down to besilent, that is, to have silences
what I told you to leave theprocess a little bit to have as we
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exercise one now, but that weare even used to listening to an audio
book or listening to a podcast whileI exercise. I think that something on
the contrary is giving us some blurring. I think there are moments to be
disconnected. We have to work verywell. The issue of knowing, knowing
again, listening, having focus againis we lose focus today very quickly and
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we have to learn to communicate andgenerate what we told you, to generate
relationships. I think we need tostart building relationships, because that' s
going to give us a very strongempowerment. But we need to be aware
that creating relationships requires knowing skills,like listening, speaking good language. There
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we don' t know how totalk and I think the context is that,
it' s not being able toput on habits and use technological tools.
I' m telling you how totreilo. There' s one called
STEA focus. There is the theme, there is one that somehow the fact
that video games are this dopamine anesthesiaand that how we can replace the world
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of video game with a more usefultheme we will love to feel useful.
It' s very important that wementalize micro- accomplishing. One thing that
helped me a lot as a softwareengineer in the beginning is that having mycrologers
makes dopamine go back to what fatherhears. Yeah, I got this software
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and it works. That same thingthat we can schedule with mini achievements can
begin to replace the dopamine generated bya tiktok. Then I think we have
to sit down and mentalize in theear. I don' t want to,
I don' t want to reachthe impossible extreme goal, but to
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break our mind, in our weekand our day to do micro- achievement.
That I think is a good wayto re- educate the brain so
that we have more creativity, sothat we know, have more collaboration,
have to think more critically, havethe clarity to solve some problem, etcetera.
I mean, I think that andobviously, if you tell me to
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hear and what I could start studying, I say technology skills, not necessarily
programming. But if you get intothe world of this new chemical element that
was invented called viicial intelligence, I' ll dissuade you from learning to use
it. But try to generate thesebehaviors of disconnecting and generating microloans, because
microloans generate the emotion of wanting more. And that' s what I'
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m doing now I' m reallytrying to gamify real life by the little
medal he' s giving you.I do not know well the emotion that
gives you a fortnite, of alol or any, of the video games,
etc, or these games of videogames of casinos and these of the
cellulars that generate points or that generatethis, those achievements bring them to one
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more issue of productivity. And thatmakes us have the gap to say if
it' s too easy for meto get bored and if it' s
too hard something' s going tostress my heart out in finding the middle
center that' s so hard andstress me out and make it so easy
for me to get bored. Ithink that' s the challenge we have
every day. So, from whatI hear, you think that the subject
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of self- discipline today is fundamentalso that we don' t get lost
in this world of so many distractions, so many stimuli. Yeah, totally,
and I think it' s easierto listen to him today. Okay.
No, all of a sudden Isee kids who have like an alexa
alarm clock and they don' tpeel it and they just call it ki
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they keep sleeping then. But,on the other hand, if we use
these assistants to generate disciplines and weuse technology to re- educate our brain,
I think it' s more effectivetoday than someone, an adult to
a young man say hey does this, study this usually there we don'
t pay so much attention anymore.We are more inclined to listen to him,
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something that has no emotions today andwithout generating we were technological habits of
focus and disconnection, and I thinkwe could get to have very good.
It is a generation that has enormouspotential because they are highly creative and super
intelligent. The youths of this generationare humming and hearing a question right now
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that you said this about the attendees. Attendees are also considered artificial intelligence.
It' s a generation back,because what they were doing is they'
re listening and you tell them aiciriyor alexa whatever you want and they activate
the microphone and they detect the audiothat comes in, but just to execute
an action, I mean you tellthem I want you to turn off the
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light. It' s instructions yougive him instead of writing it to him.
So, the evolution that comes thanksto Openia and thanks to Google,
with these languages, with these languagemodels, is that, in fact,
there is already evolution where new peopleliterally attend are going to help the elderly
a lot to have an emotional conversationif they are alone, and that there
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is this interaction. There' san official intelligence called PI. So and
point there, which is the mostemotional and human connection, because it already
speaks to you. It' svery powerful and I don' t see
in less than a year that thenew version of these assistants comes where they
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not only serve you to put ona song or turn off the light,
etcetera, but you can already havea conversation that calms you, because not
at that moment. Of course,my grandmother is ninety- three years old
and she' s on wheels andthey put an alexa on her and she
' s happy to let you knowwhen you have to take her medicine.
If you want to call someone,tell them to call you everything, he
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' s very happy, but they' re inspections. Time to imagine you
can talk. That would be supercool, if you know. The truth
is, yes. And the otherthing that makes me laugh. At least
I tweeted it or I don't know what it would be like on
this platform of x Yes, theex exie, which gives me a lot
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of laugh, which I can't help. Tell Chad Gpit please.
Help me to tell you please andyou had many answers from me too I
do too, being very polite withChatchipit. That' s it, and
that' s it, tell megood. I think I wouldn' t
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be doing my job as a journalistif I didn' t ask you too,
because of some ethical challenges or concernsassociated with the use of artificial intelligence
and copyright and all that. Yeah, what an opinion you deserve. Yes,
definitely, yes, we have beenin academic programs of the MT,
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in Stanford studies, where it isspoken, in many communities where morals and
ethics are at stake, there aremany lacks of regulation. It' s
definitely something where you can cheat alot. I mean, that' s
the reality and it can also bethis topic of understanding that whenever you make
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the reference and whenever you say andyou' re used to not stopping your
neck from saying this it' syours and less so now that it makes
it harder to say it. Butthe issue of morality and ethics and misuse
of cheating through these models and sellingthings that are not or encapsulating things that
are apparently different and turns out notto be, is a great topic.
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I do, I do, Isee that just like there are the plagiarisms
of the songs and remakes of thefilms and that they pay fees when you
want to make a remake of amovie that worked in France and they want
to do it in the United States, because they make you a right thing.
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No idea The script' s yours. And I think that if tomorrow
I convert to cloud or p orDPT Chat and provoke a good script and
do something good, as long asI say this, I did it and
it' s not my authorship,because if I consume it in chatdimitives it
' s everything, then I do. I think we have to have integrity.
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I think it' s going tobe a question of integrity, and
it' s not the same asbeing honest, that being whole, that
I think being integrated is not corruptingyourself, because being honest, because it
' s not stealing and not transhending, but already when you corrupt yourself,
I think that' s where thebig issue of using technology comes from.
But yes, it is a greatsubject. I' m not telling you
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that all of a sudden you sayand this is either right or wrong if
we go into strong dilemmas, because, for example, the subject of what
they' re doing in the MTwhen trying to detect they put you on
are already doing an experiment that goesabove the novel how much percent where they
put you to describe a photo,then you record yourself in an audio whatsapp,
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a photo that you' re lookingat and you say to is a
photo where, well, there's a beach. And then, with
that audio and with that tone ofvoice and with that they are already able
to predict if the human being willbe able to have a disease like dementia
or Alzheimer' s in the nextten years but the fact of me giving
you of not asking permission from you, as a patient, to be part
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of the study. It' salready a matter of regulation, of morality
where I' m going to exposemy case that even privacy, privacy.
So, yes, it' squite a subject, it' s a
subject where today but we can helpthousands. Yeah, but you' re
using something that I didn' tgive you permission to use. I think
so, but it is a subject. The truth is that there is still
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a lot of nebula in how thisis going to be regulated. The countries
have already begun to block, becauseyou see what is happening in the United
States with tik Tok that if itis not sold, they will close it.
I mean, you' re startingto see a topic where globalization isn
' t going to be so globalanymore. I think we' re going
to have different sectors of the Internetin the world. I believe from what
I see, ok yes, becausejust now, after I don' t
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know how many fifteen years are startingto regulate social networks. No, I
don' t. I imagine thatwith artificial intelligence too, we still have
a bit of a legal vacuum.Yeah, and I know several friends who
are just starting to have babies andwho don' t say that just because
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of privacy and artificial intelligence issues,they don' t want to upload any
pictures. That' s because ofthe deep fage and everything that causes the
noise. And that yes and thatthere are people that are bad and that
are going to be a misuse ofthis tool. It' s a clear
yes total gerardo. Well, beforeclosing, there' s something I haven
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' t asked you that you wouldlike to comment on this topic, because
I really say I have clarity thatartificial intelligence isn' t a term I
say is not a term from myright perspective, because it' s really
(48:21):
neither intelligence nor it' s soartificial, because mathematics is mathematics. I
think the subject is confusion. Weneed to be very clear about determining what
it is and studying and knowing whatpiece we put our beliefs in. As
for artificial intelligence, I think it' s the first thing and understand who
invents these models and who invents thesethings. I think that it is entirely
(48:45):
for the global good of the worldand that it is obviously like what happens
with bombs, it is not agood experiment, but at the end of
the day they can be used forevils. I think the point is to
have a lot of awareness. Ibelieve that my main theme today, with
the young people working with us oreven with my children, or whatever,
(49:07):
is to disconnect. A moment foryour Brain to breathe and that theme of
breathing your Brain and not this boomof confusion and noise, make your Brain
clear to better understand things and beable to do what we should be doing.
(49:29):
Because I think it' s agood father moment, very exciting.
So I think that you can achievea lot of quality of life for everyone,
minimize inequality a lot, which iswhat draws me a lot of attention
to the blind man of open Thereis that he is convinced that artificial intelligence
is really so that inequality is practicallyreduced to the maximum possible. The issue
(49:53):
is all that surrounds interests but ifwe unfocus and disconnect rather to focus.
I think it' s step numberone that I would do this year,
because things come very very disruptive,very exciting, but that doesn' t
generate fear, of course, todisconnect to focus and how interesting everything we
(50:17):
' ve talked about. Thank youvery much, Gerardo. I love talking
to someone so positive, with somuch hope for the future, with so
much excitement about all this. Inuncertainty it is sometimes the only thing left
for us to have no hope,and hope is to expect things to work
(50:37):
out as best as possible, eventhough we do not have control of them.
I thank you so much. Notthe other way around, Andrén Likes
to be here and what do Itell you, nothing. Indeed, very
motivated and also inviting everyone to reallyget on the wave of understanding what this
is and not being afraid of it. The truth is not so cool,
of course, and that this alsoleads us, as we said at the
(50:58):
beginning, to make human beings,which is the end of what we are
here. That is not to dehumanizethat, on the contrary, to humanize
us more. No. Thank youvery much and thank you very much for
the time also and with you likethe truth. Thank you very much and
thank you all for coming up tothis moment, because you know if you
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know of someone who is very interestedin this topic or in the episode you
thought of someone who said ay thisperson, my cousin, my friend,
right now put on the share buttonand send it to him, which is
also a way to connect and fosterour relationships and I would love to hear
what and read what you think aboutsocial networks or here in the episode in
(51:43):
Spotify. Thanks for being here.I' ll send you a kiss and
listen to each other in the nextyou remember the impact you want to see
in the world. Toby Look atwhat Güey Media
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