KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen (Sun, 27 Apr, 2025)

KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 27 Apr, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
NBC News Radio. I'm Lisa Carton. The US and Iran
will head back to the negotiating table for a fourth
round of nuclear talks next Saturday. The White House described
yesterday's third round of talks in Oman as positive and productive.
US Special Envoy Steve Whitcoff and Iron's Foreign minister led
the two delegations, with the discussions lasting about four hours.

(00:27):
The talks come after a massive chemical explosion in a
major Iranian port, killing at least eight people and injuring
hundreds more. The next meeting is scheduled to take place
in Oman on May third. Nine people are dead after
a car plowed into a crowded street festival in Canada.
Scott Carr has the latest.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Police in Vancouver say a black SUV sped into a
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They haven't given a motive, but police said on social
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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has offered his condolences to
the Filipino community in Vancouver, calling the attack horrific.

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The Vatican is releasing photos of the tomb of Pope Francis.
The pope was buried in Rome Saturday at the Basilica
of Saint Mary Major. The photos were released this morning
as the tomb was opened to the public. Italian news
reports say thousands have already filed into the basilica to
view the Pope's tomb, with many more waiting in line.
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to visit the tomb this afternoon to pay their respects.
Pope Francis died last Monday at age eighty eight and
is the first to be buried at Saint Mary Major
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have a backup. I'm cheering for the Clippers and I'm
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(09:03):
that is on the planet short of go into Heaven.
And everybody wants to go there, but nobody wants to
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This is a Daima day. I want to congratulate my friends,
relatives and children and everybody who acknowledges the greatness of
our lives and the people that we've known in the

(09:25):
past and the people that we're going to meet in
the future. I've got a heroine here for you that
you cannot accept well, you can't be sad despite the
things that the world is doing when you find that
there are young geniuses around you who care enough about
themselves to become excellent. And then you're also blessed to

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know that their parents out there who care enough about
themselves and their legacy to love their children enough to
push them to go forward. And we have a great
example of that today that you'll get a chance to
meet and talk about. And you may be able to
catch that on my Facebook, but I'll tell you you

(10:12):
folks that are on Facebook, you can come see us
at KCAA Radio dot com and you'll get a chance
to not only see that beautiful young lady, but here
a handsome dad, and also get a chance to see
the Moodmaster, Anthony Garcia. He's been practicing and doing all
of the great things that it takes to continue to
be great. Once again, Welcome to Empire Talks Back. I'm

(10:34):
Wallace Allen here on the case for truth and justice
with the right information to help improve the situation. The
Empire Talks Back is brought to you by Wssnews dot
com and the Improve Association. That's because we can all
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(12:03):
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your fantasies of art. And speaking of art, that's mister
Art Hernandez, the leader of the Jazz Junkies. The other
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place today at three pm at the Riverside Civil Rights
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Speaker 13 (14:15):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (14:15):
The Improved Association is proud to sponsor those previous announcements
and we are glad to have our in studio guests today.
Ten year old young lady from San Bernardino, California, set
to make crafton Hills College history this May when she
becomes the youngest ever to graduate from Ukaipa from the

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Ukaipa based Community college, Lisa Parrales, Did I say it right? Okay?
The compliment being the microphone Say yeah, you said all right,
old man, got those lips working like they should. And
she's just turned eleven, well she will have turned when's.

Speaker 13 (14:56):
Your birthday next next Wednesday?

Speaker 8 (15:00):
Wednesday. What day does that? April thirtieth, April thirty, Oh,
this is coming Wednesday, very weird, April thirtieth. And she
will be eleven at that time and eleven at the
time of the ceremony. And as she crosses the stage,
she'll be getting not one but two associate degrees, one
in multiple sciences and another in mathematics, joining hundreds of

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other graduates who would become crafton Hills alumni. Her final
GPA great point average will be close to four point zero.
Alicia is with her father, Raphael. Raphael, how are you
doing great? Thanks for having us. Oh, yeah, you guys
are doing great things, Alicia's some of the people that

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will graduate with you. Some of those people will say, hey, great,
I'm all finished with my education, you know, and they'll
be heading off in their directions and good luck and
all of those great things to them. How about your education?
Are you? Are you going to be drew as you
finish this or what are you gonna be.

Speaker 13 (16:05):
Doing well after?

Speaker 8 (16:07):
After I close my because part of your future may
be to be a radio, TV announcer, podcast is deliver
or something like that. But you got a great voice,
let's share it.

Speaker 14 (16:20):
So when I graduate, I plan on transferring to Stanford
or maybe possibly you see Irvine. I got accepted there,
and also you see Riverside say.

Speaker 8 (16:35):
That against Sanford? Yeah, or Riverside you see, yes, or
actually closer to school.

Speaker 13 (16:44):
You see Irvine.

Speaker 14 (16:46):
If I don't get accepted to Stanford, I hope that well,
actually probably you see Irvine. That's where I'll go. That's
probably the most the best I used to go. Then
probably after that I will plan on working at SpaceX

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like Elon Musk's company, or a startup company with my
dad or.

Speaker 8 (17:15):
But we'll talk about your financial future as we get
further involved here. But I'm wanting to point out to
people that you're not quite satisfied with graduating from crafton Hills.
You were inspired still and you want to keep on learning, right, Yeah, yeah,
that's that's a good deal. Now, got some questions here.

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You were eight years old when you began your studies
at Crafton Hills Community College. Well, what was that like
for you when you first stepped on that campus? How
did you make that transition? How did it feel to you?
I know how it felt, well I don't know for
sure how it felt to your day, but I imagine
he was able to see his shoes, but walking around

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with his all swollen up and with pride and everything.
I don't know if he even knew he had on
shoes for a while there. But go on, how was
it for you when you first got to got to
at Craft and Hills.

Speaker 14 (18:11):
Well, when I first went to a class, I saw
like many people like normally, like I'm used to just
me and my dad sitting at the desk, but there
was like twenty twenty five people there, and they're way
older than me. So it's a little different for me
to actually go to a public school as well, because

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I just stayed at home.

Speaker 13 (18:32):
I was homeschooled my whole life.

Speaker 14 (18:34):
But they accepted me as like a normal student. They
still talk to me, made friends there, and there's actually
none so bad as I thought it would be.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
Okay, So you were able to make friends with I
guess did you get some I guess artificial or substitute
aunts and uncles? How did those relationships kind of develop
at death to school? There?

Speaker 13 (19:00):
Up?

Speaker 8 (19:01):
If you go and beat people up and with video
games and out smarter them in class and get them
to follow you around like that, how did it work out?

Speaker 14 (19:11):
Well, I'm pretty much just met people in class just
like talking or something, or like they've talked to me
and say like, hey, are you actually a student here?

Speaker 13 (19:21):
I say yes, I am, and then.

Speaker 14 (19:23):
There's like we just keep talking and talking for a
couple of minutes. That's how I kind of meet new friends.
And sometimes, like I've met quite a few at the
tutoring center. Do I normally get help there when I
when I need to work on something.

Speaker 13 (19:36):
Like do they just help me? For many years?

Speaker 14 (19:39):
And like like it's kind of just like on and on,
just keep making new friends and new friends of your friends.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
This is kind of very very good, very good. Do
you have anything from one of your class experiences that
you remember where people all of a sudden said, wow, yeah,
she really belongs in here.

Speaker 14 (19:56):
Lots of like probably a hundreds like I it's just
like like I remember this one time where like we
just ended class and I was walking around. I was
just like, oh, excuse me, are you a student here?
It's just like yes, They're like holding I'm just like
I'm eight, because that's when I just started. They's like sorry,

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what what? And they're pretty shocked and a little confused
in their face. A little bit, and I was just like, yape,
it's not a lot, it's not a joke. They're like, wow,
you're so smart or whatever.

Speaker 8 (20:34):
Very good. And you are not a large You're not
a small person but for your age, but you're not
a you know, tall, you play Have you play sports?

Speaker 13 (20:46):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (20:46):
I play soccer at AIS Redlands.

Speaker 8 (20:49):
Are you good?

Speaker 13 (20:51):
I would say so.

Speaker 8 (20:55):
You you must not have decided that you want to
be a soccer player, because if you said you if
you've decided you wanted to play professional soccer or something,
at this point you'd be saying, yeah, I'm pretty good,
I'm very I think you probably use it for exercise
more than just It's probably one of the things you
do to let other people know that they're they're they're
able to keep up with you a little bit. Now, Yeah,

(21:18):
you kind of slack off when you play soccer to
let people, uh or how do you do it?

Speaker 13 (21:23):
Well?

Speaker 14 (21:24):
This is like a I think I started about like
two or three or two three, about three years old,
and I kind of just kind of like kept it
up like I've had.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
She doesn't take it easy.

Speaker 15 (21:41):
She goes in there and scores ten goals in some
games and it's it's she's really, she's really.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
She's being very humble and very good. Yes, she's very good. Raphael.
How did you decide to that Crafton Hills was going
to be a spot for her to go?

Speaker 15 (21:54):
We toured Palley College here in Samonndan, and we also
toured Draft and we've been to RCC, but that was
a bit of a drive. But I'd say that after
going to Crafton, we we just.

Speaker 12 (22:11):
Got a feel for the student body.

Speaker 15 (22:16):
And I don't really know how to put it indoors,
we just felt like it felt she had a better
fit there. My son went there, and I think maybe
she had some kind of familial, you know, connection in
some way. But we have had no no regrets at all.
Crafton has been a wonderful school.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
This is your little girl, yep, and going to a
college with older students and adults to some degree. Most fathers,
most and I'm a father, two daughters. How many daughters
do you have? Brothers and sister?

Speaker 13 (22:54):
Yeah, of two brothers, one.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
Sister, two brothers, one brother and two sisters, two brothers, sister, Yeah,
two brothers and one sister. Okay, most fathers, you know
don't want their sixteen year old daughter to go to
go hang out with sixteen seventeen year old kids. So, Raphael,

(23:20):
what made you really comfortable with her going to college
and being around older people like this? This is a
it's really uh. You know, we smile and we laugh,
but we also know that there's a lot of danger
involved in that.

Speaker 12 (23:32):
Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (23:33):
I'd say the one comfort that I had was probably
that I was going to be there. I didn't just
drop her off and take off. I was there, so
when she was in class, I was nearby always. So
if she were in class, I would be over in
let's say that the STEM center or in the admin building,

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just hanging out doing a little work on the laptop
or something.

Speaker 12 (23:56):
So I was always nearby.

Speaker 15 (23:57):
And we got radios, so when she needs to get
a hold of me, she can just get a hold
of me at the push of a button. And I'm
telephone faster than a telephone.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
Yeah, good, very good, very good.

Speaker 14 (24:08):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
While you were hanging around the school, when I say,
hanging around monitoring and things of that sort, where they
are any special concerns that you had ever that you
ever noticed or had to investigate or feel kind of
shaky about during the uh, during her time there at
craft and meals.

Speaker 15 (24:28):
Uh, nothing worth really mentioning. There was one time when
I kind of might have overreact. I've been a little
too suspicious when I saw somebody dressed in a kind
of like all black and head into the bathroom with
an instrument case. And I happened to be also using

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the restroom and going to the restroom at that time.
I was walked in and heard a lot of metal
clanking around, And with all these school shootings and things
going on the news, you know, I really kind of
ears perked up and all right, just thought to myself,
Oh man, am I going to have to get into
it right here before anything big happens.

Speaker 12 (25:05):
But it ends up he was just changing clothes and
doing things that normally.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
Anybody would do.

Speaker 12 (25:10):
So it was unfounded about don't.

Speaker 8 (25:12):
You sound like you were prepared to turn into Superman?

Speaker 12 (25:15):
I absolutely, as any father would. I was ready to
give it all up.

Speaker 8 (25:20):
That's that's part of the deal. And one of the
things that I'd like to ask you is, you know,
like I said, I'm a father, and you know I've
had the most beautiful and smartest, the most inspiring, wonderful
children in the world, Like most parents, we think our
kids are just super duper. They all are. But at

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a certain point with your child, With Alisa, you actually
saw something going on that made you say, hey, there's
something even special about the specialness of my child. What
were some of the things that you noticed about her
that made you I mean, I see that one of

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the quotes in the press release from Michelle Riggs is
that by the time she was one year old, she
had learned her ABC's and one two threes and was
beyond that. You know me and most kids are not
even talking at one year old. So how did you
see this, what was coming out? How did it well

(26:24):
show itself?

Speaker 12 (26:26):
Just progression, just the natural progression of things. I would say.

Speaker 15 (26:31):
We began with just like every other school really with
the ab season one, two threes, and I guess it's
just ability. You know, she had the ability to continue
grasping the material and moving on. So she was reading
by two and that was really proof in the putting
that she was able to grasp the material and move on.

(26:52):
And we just kept progressing. So we've gone from sounding
out letters to reading words, to reading books, to be
going on to math edition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and so on,
and then she was doing algebra by five and geometry
at five and just progressed.

Speaker 8 (27:10):
How did you feel about this? Uh, Lisa, as you?
I mean, do you do you remember.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
Math?

Speaker 8 (27:19):
I mean one, two, three abc? Do you remember those transitions?
How early is your memory about learning?

Speaker 7 (27:27):
Well?

Speaker 14 (27:29):
I remember back when we first started learning, like we
used to go to our little plastic desk because all
the books and pencils like storing little space.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
You had a desk.

Speaker 13 (27:43):
Yeah, how old were you?

Speaker 8 (27:44):
Do you remember?

Speaker 13 (27:45):
Just like one and a half.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
You had a desk at one most of the okay,
very good. I'm not gonna ask when you learned to
go to the body, but I tell you that's probably
the one of the first things that most parents are
really really concerned about, is, you know, trying to get
you to the you know, to have that part by yourself.
At a one year old, you're reading and well counting
and recognizing ABC's and going to your desk. Where is

(28:17):
that desk? Do you still have it?

Speaker 12 (28:19):
We don't have the desk anymore.

Speaker 15 (28:20):
We sold it to a family who needed it more
than we did it at certain points, so they had
to take over.

Speaker 13 (28:27):
Very good, Mike, and it was it. We we locked
off the front door.

Speaker 14 (28:33):
It was like near the front door, just like kind
of pushed off towards the side, and we used the
kitchen door instead. But that's where we always studied, right.

Speaker 13 (28:43):
There in the main area.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
Very good. Now your your brothers and sister. Are they
older or younger? How does that come?

Speaker 13 (28:51):
They're way older? One of them is like thirty something in.

Speaker 14 (28:56):
Like uh, like they're still like older than they're out
there moved out of the house.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
Okay, so you are the youngest. Yes, so this is
your baby, baby girl.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
That's right.

Speaker 8 (29:07):
Very good. Now you are a single parent.

Speaker 12 (29:11):
Yes, How did I make it all work?

Speaker 8 (29:17):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I thank you for that question.

Speaker 15 (29:21):
It isn't easy. It has not been easy. I have
spent down savings I have I inherited from the passing
of my parents twenty ten, twenty twelve. I inherited a
small amount of money, modest amount of money, and a
home that was paid off. So that was really the

(29:42):
key to us being able to launch Elisa.

Speaker 12 (29:45):
To the heights where she is now.

Speaker 15 (29:46):
So with having the little money that I had invested
into real estate, that little income that I had and
a home to live in has allowed us to keep
one nostril above water, as I like to say, you know,
along the way for the last ten years we had.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
A nostra with a straw and you were able to
above water. But then the word that my mother uses
all the time comes to mind, and that's the l
o ve four letter word that that makes everything.

Speaker 15 (30:16):
Worth that, you know it love as water kind of
to raise these little saplings into sequoias is really into sequarias.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Let's not pass over that too quickly. Saplings into sequoia's
that's vision. That's uh. You homeschooled, Alisa. What are your
qualifications for homeschooling? How did you decide to? Well, once

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you got going on, I guess you knew that senator
to the school would be like senator back in time? True,
what are your qualifications for that? What made you make
that decision? And praise the Lord for your ability to
follow to because of an inheritance and having a house,
et cetera, et cetera. But yeahthing that you had was
a decision to stand by your child and bring her

(31:10):
as far as you could as quick as she wanted
to go.

Speaker 15 (31:14):
Yeah, I do like to emphasize that it's a multi
generational effort. You know, the effort that my parents put
into paying off a home and leaving a little something
for my brother and me allowed me to take the
steps that I did to use that money in a
way that would allow Alisa, my child, to excel. So

(31:36):
it's we I think that sometimes people lose track of
the vision of your children, your children's children, and so
on and so forth, and everything you do now echoes
into the future to assist them. So it definitely is
our children standing on our shoulders, our great our grandchildren

(31:57):
on their shoulders, and so on and so forth. So
as far as my qualifications, I have a degree, also
a bachelor's degree. I have a juris Juris doctorate degree.
I'm an attorney by profession, but I was not really
able to practice too much, being that I passed the
bar exam around the time she was born. Okay, so

(32:17):
I kind of shelved.

Speaker 12 (32:18):
The attorney thing and.

Speaker 15 (32:21):
Have taken care of Alisa full time, double full time,
I should say. Being a homeschool and parent and taking
care of a home is absolutely a double full time job,
and it's every day.

Speaker 12 (32:30):
There are no days off.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
Well, I'm blessing to a few attorneys, and I'll say
in general about most of them that they're not qualified
to teach their kids algebra and trigonometry and all those
other mathematical things you're talking about, and not because they
wouldn't want to, but they would not and me able
to have that. That's right educational base to do it.

Speaker 12 (32:53):
That's correct.

Speaker 15 (32:54):
When she got to the point, and that's really where
she went.

Speaker 12 (32:57):
To college, I had to go to college. I couldn't.

Speaker 15 (32:59):
I couldn't take her any farther. She had gotten to
the point where I could no longer teach her. I
only got as far as pre calculus, and she was
she needed to go on to trig and things. I
took TRIGG.

Speaker 12 (33:11):
I did terribly in that class. I couldn't teach it.
So it was time for her.

Speaker 15 (33:15):
She just passed everything that I was able to do,
so it was time to move on at eight, which
is really, I guess, the impressive part of it.

Speaker 8 (33:23):
You've got some things to say about that. I saw
you lean toward the microphone. What do you want to
add to that? Massa, Lisa, Well, I mean learning the math,
and learning the math and getting tested in it and
getting provision in it, and getting to the point where

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when you asked dad for help, he was sending you
somewhere else. Did you kind of recognize it, Wow, something
else is getting ready to happen here.

Speaker 14 (33:54):
Well, I realized that, and she has, and she has
told me that I think pretty much passed them in
the math level. Like I already finished Calculus three, And
she was like, to the point where like, you can
no longer help me when I add questions.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
But calculus, that's good. That's good most most of us
parents kind of you know, but when when they changed
a word from arithmetic to math, your parents usually drop out.

Speaker 15 (34:23):
And her math, her math is not like our math,
like how you would picture math is not her math.
Her math is Greek symbols and a couple numbers in there,
and a lot of lines and things. Yeah, it's not
comprehendible really by average labors at all.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
Does it seem useful to you as you work with
your math? Do you see a future used for applying
these things that you were learning?

Speaker 14 (34:53):
Well, it's possible that some of it could apply to
maybe quantum physics or something something like that. I haven't
figured it out yet, but but I would say that
it's not useless that's for sure. You could probably figure
out something in that range, like like a.

Speaker 13 (35:15):
Like you could figure out stuff with it with physics
and physics.

Speaker 8 (35:19):
With the with the realm of science. And I won't
say peaking because it keeps on climbing. I'm I'm astounded
by the idea that we can see an asteroid see
an asteroid, first of all. I'm astounded by the concept
of a light year. Uh, and the fact that they're

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telling me that there's potential life on the planet that's
a couple billion life years away. How How does that
kind of information affect you? How do you feel about
those kinds of things as a challenging to you? Is
it inviting to you to think about it? I mean
a light year? I mean, can you explain to us
what light years?

Speaker 7 (36:01):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (36:02):
Well, I haven't really gotten to that type of learning yet.

Speaker 8 (36:05):
You know how fast light travels from I think the
Sun to Earth. I think they say it's about eight
minutes or something like that, and it's what like ninety
three million miles from Earth to the Sun roughly. Yeah,
so the light that takes eight minutes to get here.
Now we're talking about how far does light go in

(36:29):
a year? Light the speed of light. How far can
that go in a year.

Speaker 15 (36:36):
Like four trillion miles or something like that.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
And now you're going to tell me about a billion, which,
first of all, you know what's a billion? Well, that's money.
If we count money, we will never get to it.
We couldn't We couldn't count to it by once. If
we started today, we would not be able to finish
counting to a billion. So now we're talking about billions
of light years away. In the world of science, it's

(37:00):
with the telescope sound system that acknowledges that existence. I'm
glad to find that there's something that you are still
challenged by and able to say, I'm not sure that's
that's that's pretty good. I'm sitting here talking to a
genius and I'm actually on the same level in a

(37:24):
couple of areas. Here, Eric, what do you think about
this man?

Speaker 12 (37:30):
It's definitely a genius.

Speaker 16 (37:32):
And the whole time you guys were talking about math,
I was thinking, I graduated high school doing business math,
basic stuff. I think college was like geometry was the
furthest I got so, very humbled, very humbled.

Speaker 8 (37:45):
My daughters are older. My youngest daughter has two daughters
that are younger, and you know, I'm kind of staying
up and saying, well, you know, maybe I should be,
you know, leaning a little more involved here does does
she make you? And does Raphael and make you kind
of feel a little inadequate or inspired or what?

Speaker 16 (38:09):
Definitely inspired because I have a ten year old daughter,
So it's just so I get stoked seeing this and
hearing all that. It's awesome to hear and I can't
wait to go home from work and tell my daughter,
be like you, I just met a genius. I was
eleven that graduated college or is graduated college?

Speaker 8 (38:25):
Yes, yes, yes, Well that's the whole that's my intention
is to inspire people to realize that, you know, these
there are things that we can do based on our
affection and our love and our experience, and actually push
people to go way further than we were or are

(38:47):
or even anticipate that they could do. I'm just just
overwhelmed with with your potential.

Speaker 12 (38:55):
I would just say that.

Speaker 15 (38:58):
For parents who are considering schooling, I've had a couple
guys say to me, I couldn't have done.

Speaker 12 (39:06):
What you did.

Speaker 15 (39:07):
I don't have the patience and it does require a
lot of patience. I told them that you would find
deep down in you that patience that's required. You'll find it.
Don't be afraid. It takes a lot of love and
a lot of patiences. They'll just remember those two things
and just always shower them with lots of love and patience,

(39:29):
and they'll they'll do fine, and they'll react to it
and trust you and trust that you're a safe person
to be around and that you're going to love them
no matter what, and that will allow them to bloom
like a flower and be everything and let their colors shine.

Speaker 8 (39:48):
I think every parent, whether they acknowledge it or realize
that they are homeschooling and what are they teaching their
child at home? And sometimes we don't realize the weights
that we hang around our children's neck in terms of,
you know, what we know or what we think we know,

(40:09):
or the lack of emphasis and encouragement that we give
the children based on, you know, the drudgery that we've
gone through for our day. Alicia, tell us how loved
you feel? Now we're using that word, but what does
that mean to you?

Speaker 13 (40:29):
Well? I feel very loved.

Speaker 14 (40:31):
My dad gave me like lots of love for my
whole life, and like I've had like my brother around
and like I like when he comes via two, it's
just like, like I love that love, that feeling.

Speaker 8 (40:51):
Of love being cared for and cared about. Yeah, very good.
And have you seen your dad look at the some
of these guys that are looking at you? You have
you noticed a look in your dad's eye that you
know when you look away, that look he's given those
guys let them know they better look the other way.
Or that hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 12 (41:12):
I know it's coming. This isn't the end of the road.

Speaker 8 (41:14):
We've got farther to go. Yeah, you're going to see
a degree of love and affection caring about you that
you just wow, I didn't know it was like that.
I tell you that's going to be good. Raffia, what
do you mean when you say that Alisa has always
been a little different? Can you give us an example
of what you've noticed or when you noticed something that

(41:39):
was different, especially since you've had three other children to
observe that. I'm sure you gave as much love as
you gave to give to her as you gave to them.
Maybe it's not you learn as you go that, that's
for sure. My oldest certainly got different treatment from my youngest.
The middle children getting different treatments, stuff like that.

Speaker 15 (42:01):
We parents are human beings just like uh we were
once the children. So we're constantly learning as children and
we're just big kids. And yeah, my I wish that
I would have been able to homeschool my my son,
my oldest, and.

Speaker 12 (42:16):
I think that the time.

Speaker 15 (42:20):
It's just at the time of my life, I wasn't
in a place when I could do that, not financially,
and it was just not possible.

Speaker 12 (42:27):
I had to go and try to.

Speaker 15 (42:29):
Work and make, you know, make things happen. So with Alisa,
of course, she's had an opportunity for me to pay
much more attention to her to be there. I made
the sacrifices, of course of not working and making money
as an attorney in order to exchange that for time

(42:53):
and attention to my daughter. And I have absolutely no regrets,
and she's she's just laws from that. So I'd say
that she's just seemed special and capable ever.

Speaker 12 (43:06):
Since she was young. She's just taken off, just.

Speaker 15 (43:09):
Like a young flower, just shoot out of the ground
and just become everything that she can.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
Well, there's some something that we can all be encouraged
about in terms of not just Lisa's future but her past. Lisa,
I understand that you filed a lawsuit against the state
of California and the federal government. You want to tell
us what that was about. I mean, you filed it.
I didn't know your dad was a lawyer at the time,

(43:38):
but I'm sure he's learned a few of your things
as a result of watching your angle of perception on
the LASS. So tell us about your lawsuit that you
found and lean in there and give us a that's good.

Speaker 14 (43:53):
Right, Well, first, I'll take a political science class. And
we were still like the Constitution and the amendments. And
since I'm a kid, I'm more interested into looking and
researching finding out what's going on. And I was looking

(44:15):
at the Constitution and I was just like, wait a minute,
if I'm in here in this political science class with
all these like eighteen year old twenty year olds, like
why am I not able to vote? I'm in college
with them? And I was just and that I went
in the car. I went and I was done with
the class, and I was explaining to my dad like

(44:39):
like this doesn't make any sense, Like and they're using
age as a discrimination.

Speaker 8 (44:45):
I'm gonna be quiet, keep going.

Speaker 14 (44:47):
Because like like like voting as a fundamental right and
that and those the rights that my god.

Speaker 8 (45:01):
Well, yeah, you were saying that the age, they were
discriminating and require age, and I think you were making
the comparison that I'm not just I'm not that age,
but my information that I carry and the knowledge that
I have should qualify me to do what the others

(45:24):
in this college that I'm intellectually equal to. I should
be able to do the same things that they can,
and I should be able to vote. Voting is should
voting be based on age or people's ability to be
informed and participate? Let me ask you that what do
you think about it?

Speaker 14 (45:43):
Okay, well, laws have to go laws that affect those
rights have to go through strict scrutiny.

Speaker 12 (45:54):
Technical in the law.

Speaker 13 (45:56):
By the court.

Speaker 14 (45:57):
And using age which is eighteen in order to vote,
it is not does not pass strict scrutiny. I also
mentioned in my lawsuit that there's many other ways, like
maybe you can have a high school diploma, graduated from
college or graduated from high school. Maybe even and like

(46:21):
I give them some auctions, and they said when we
went to court. They said it's good enough throughout the case.
But I think that maybe many years from now I
will be proven right. And my dad thinks that too,

(46:42):
and I do.

Speaker 8 (46:44):
And if you're old enough to figure it out and
answer questions and pass a college exam, that might qualify you.
But it's very interesting that you're interested in that and
concerned about it because there's the law of I mean,
the our law of the land seems to depend on

(47:06):
people voting and participating. And have you had time? Are
you interested in history and the constitution and things of
that sort. Is there a chance you may you and dad,
may you know, joint create your own law group here?

Speaker 14 (47:23):
I don't think so that's not really the direction I'm going, okay,
but it's interesting stuff to me though. Like I like,
if I ever was like wanted to look like I
couldn't remember some part of history whatever, I would look
look on the internet see as it is again if
I've forgotten. But I'm more into computer science AI and stuff.

(47:48):
That's kind of my direction.

Speaker 15 (47:49):
It was interesting to me that she just happened to
be skipping through uh, you know, legal land and as
at eight years old and not really interested in the law,
but happened to discover along the way that the twenty
sixth Amendment of the Constitution is unconstitutional.

Speaker 12 (48:07):
I mean, it was just shocking to me.

Speaker 15 (48:08):
I went through law school, I studied the different levels
of scrutiny that the court applies to these different fundamental
rights and different rights and so on, and I had
never even heard that argument that she brought up. And
when she explained it to me in the car, I
thought about it and just said, you know, my god,
I think you're right. Like I think you've stumbled on

(48:32):
something here that nobody's really thought about. Maybe they didn't
even care. I think it's just because you're affected that
you found this. It affected you, so you pointed it out,
and everybody else now that's looking at it as adults.

Speaker 12 (48:45):
Going wow, you know, wow, that actually is probably true.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
And I guess the reality of life as we get
used to things, if we get conditioned by things that
are around us, we stop noticing some of the issues
that are really conflictuous with what they say it's going
to be. And I think in this time that we're
living in now, we need for people to be able
to parse those words and separate what's said and what's

(49:13):
being done and what's really important to us as individuals
and what's important to us as people and how we
how we make those things happen.

Speaker 12 (49:24):
Yeah, she's doing her part.

Speaker 8 (49:26):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's uh critical, it's critical that
we learn how to think critically and with logic. And
this song is.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Called Song for My Children, dedicate to you that my
years ago.

Speaker 8 (49:45):
It is called Song for my children, Song for my children.
Anthony is uh is uh. Let's he's going to offer
his playing today as he said, you you were not
in this young. This song to dedicated to you. It's

(50:06):
called Song for My Children.

Speaker 16 (50:07):
And I wrote for my children years years ago.

Speaker 13 (50:10):
God bless you because the world's a better place.

Speaker 8 (50:12):
But you go around and the world's a better place
because of her. What do you anticipate doing? Uh? Well, no, no,
you spoke about computers. That that was very interesting to me.
You spoke about computers, You speak about going on the
Internet for information, and you're at the same time I

(50:36):
know that you are a critical thinker. How much do
you trust the Internet?

Speaker 14 (50:43):
I mean like s it's like depends on the websites,
cause some websites.

Speaker 13 (50:47):
It's just like like X z D. But like I don't.

Speaker 14 (50:50):
I don't trust those websites, but some what says I
do trust, But I do trust the internet, like Wikipedia
or something like that. And also I research in books.
Sometimes I look back at my old textbooks and stuff
like that. Also, like I've made some essays about history
that I can look back and review some of history

(51:13):
or what I call it, like computer science or coding
and all different types. I can look back and see
how to do it.

Speaker 8 (51:23):
So you realize that it's an information source. And like
most information. The difference between essays, people that write essays
and people who do mathematical problems. One of them is
totally based on verifiable, acceptable facts, and the other one

(51:44):
is based on challenging what has been a traditional in thought.
And one of those tends to be based on trying
to convince you, and the other one tends to be
there to inform you with what we've all agreed to.
That's that's math. That's that's really a solid science. And

(52:12):
computers and AI, and I understand, and I see that
you've got some interest in using AI. How do you
keep those things separated or how do you skin the cat?
I guess as old folks would say in determining what's

(52:35):
a good Internet site and what's not a good Internet site,
I think you'll have no problem with figuring out your
mathematical issues. But when people talk about current events, are
you dependent on what type of information from the internet?
How where do you do you believe what you see

(52:57):
there right away? Or do you feel more in in
in requirement to investigate? Or what?

Speaker 14 (53:06):
Uh I'm and what's your background, your dad's lord background?

Speaker 8 (53:10):
I I I would think that uh, you'd be excited
about researching and comparing arguments anyway I am I right
or wrong? And my how do we? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (53:20):
I I do encourage her to to look into different
UH sources, cause, like you said, the in the web,
the web is full of all kinds of people's opinions,
and sometimes they state the facts which are incorrect. I
mean you even see that on some of the largest

(53:42):
news networks.

Speaker 12 (53:43):
You see that they.

Speaker 15 (53:45):
State mistruths or intentionally misrepresent sometimes.

Speaker 12 (53:49):
I it's it's just a little shocking.

Speaker 15 (53:50):
So y, it is very difficult to know who to trust.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
Right and and we don't wanna just ask a questions here.
We also will want to be solutionary and as much
as possible plant our seeds. One of them is that
just the internet, just like people, they're going to be
people out here that can give you good advice and
give you good solid information. They're going to be people

(54:15):
that are so full of it that you know they
should be growing a garden with their words. But our
obligation is to not just listen and talk to people
who agree with us, because that just feeds the same
old and which is good. But at the same time,

(54:36):
you want to be challenging to yourself by looking at
information that you don't necessarily agree with and see why
you don't agree with it, and maybe you should agree
with it, And the same thing about things that you
agree with. Should I continue to agree with these things
when I see what the effect is in real life?

Speaker 12 (54:58):
I think you bring up an important point there, because.

Speaker 15 (55:03):
Half of the half of the coin is wisdom. Her
education is one half as one side of the coin,
but we have a lot of discussions outside of the
pedagogical aspect of school that wisdom is imparted.

Speaker 12 (55:20):
I think as well.

Speaker 15 (55:22):
I try to share my experience over the years with
her so that she's not only educated, but wise and
knows how to use that education, because if you only
have the education part but don't know how to use it,
you know, it's not particularly as.

Speaker 12 (55:38):
Useful as it could have been.

Speaker 15 (55:40):
So we talk about, like you said that, the different opinions,
the facts supporting those arguments, and we're always working on
that piece by piece.

Speaker 8 (55:53):
You know.

Speaker 12 (55:53):
That's a that's a that's a long road.

Speaker 15 (55:56):
It takes many years to become wise, even when you're
feeding it to somebody on a daily basis fifty times
a day, which we do and probably I would say
there's at least fifty conversations a day that we have
where I'm just chearing wisdom also and just what's going on.
And this is the thoughts and the processes going on
and the arguments and the issues. So yeah, that's an

(56:16):
important part.

Speaker 8 (56:17):
When you're super special, there are gonna be people who
encourage you, and they're gonna be people who hate you,
and sometimes you want to be liked and continue to
be loved enough to kind of fake it a little bit,
you know, the light up let up on the competition

(56:38):
on the soccer field, same way that Dad says you
don't that he hasn't noticed it, but once again he does.
Your drive inside is inside this internal and you may
at some point feel obligated to take it easy on
someone else would kind of back off so that you'll
be quote unquote normal. You are advancing so quickly at

(57:06):
the education level that some point you may feel that
you missed something, and you probably did. You miss getting
a chance to go be stupid with and most dads
and moms want their children to skip that aspect of it.
You hopefully will skip the aspect of just rebelling it.

(57:29):
But then again, we know human nature and I hope dads,
you're going to be ready for that part. You know,
you may decide that instead of looking at and paying
attention to some sensible, logical, nice person like your dad,
that you want some idiot guy that you know you can.
So it's not going to be easy. And I'm saying that.

(57:51):
I'm saying that to you because it hasn't been easy.
You've been challenged and you've taken that challenge well. And
I'm very very proud to sit here next to you
knowing that I'm possibly sitting too next to sitting next
to someone who's going to change the world noticeably, you know,

(58:12):
and that is that's critical to me. And if I
have this chance, I just want to say to you,
you know, accept that responsibility, and you know you are
going to be pushed in the direction of normalcy. But
what's normal? Okay, and just remember that and it's a

(58:33):
blessing to be around you. Give you thirty seconds to
say anything that you want to say that we need
to hear before we leave. This is the quickest hour
on radio. I had no idea. What's almost time to go.

Speaker 14 (58:48):
I just want to say that if you are an
adult or parent out there when you have kids, or
if you have kids, I'd say the best idea is
to homeschool them and show lots of love and hopefully
they'll be successful just like me someday.

Speaker 15 (59:07):
Excellent, Raphael, I as a parent have just really kind
of shaken things up by We're in kind of uncharted
territory here, obviously, and like you said, there could be
a rebellious stage or things coming up, but I really
don't know.

Speaker 12 (59:25):
We'll have to see.

Speaker 15 (59:26):
There really isn't any parent to rebel against with me.
I support her whichever direction she goes. So if she
tells me she wants to go one way, who am
I to She's probably smarter than I am. I see,
you know, we'll see if the wisdom is there too,
like I've taught her. You know, she says she wants
to go out into space.

Speaker 12 (59:44):
I'm going to stand to the side.

Speaker 15 (59:45):
I mean, I'm letting her lead, and I'm just there
to support her in whichever direction she goes, because I
have faith that she'll be guided by her own her
own self and her INTELLCT. She's gonna use what tool
she has, as I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 8 (01:00:01):
The face, that's what it's all about. You planted the siege.
You you prepared the ground. You've planted the siege. You've
made