KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen (Sun, 1 Jun, 2025)

KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 1 Jun, 2025

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Speaker 8 (07:43):
We run the movie.

Speaker 12 (07:53):
We got.

Speaker 13 (07:56):
There's been so many things that head.

Speaker 7 (07:59):
That's time.

Speaker 14 (08:01):
But now it seems like things are fine.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Are you coming around?

Speaker 13 (08:06):
I know we've got along with, go.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well with and h dog.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Not things ain't gonna let nothing hold us back now.
And that's very important to remember, Chuck. There is so
much trying to hold that stack, and they ain't trying
to pay us Easter. It's one of the oldest bat
over tax and give us a terror tariff for breakfast,
ter for this, char for that. But you know what,

(08:40):
if you do like we used to do. You know
what they said is we were coming up like who
like you? You won't have a problem. Our biggest problem
is running around trying to impress people that don't care
or ratitutub about us, running around trying to be friends
and friendly with people who have an enemy attitude, people
who don't want to be social. They call it if

(09:04):
you try to be social and cons That took my
mic off? No, is it all? Okay?

Speaker 15 (09:16):
See what I mean?

Speaker 8 (09:16):
Folks, it's hard my friends. You heard about me? Can
you hear me?

Speaker 4 (09:24):
There?

Speaker 8 (09:25):
You hear me there? Okay? You want to take care
of this other one? Yeah? I just I just gave
you guys the Lott of number and everything. But I
forgot it. I gave you a lot of number, the
whole deal. The little number is once again like who
likes you pay attention to people who are informed about
the real issues of life, the issues of life? Or

(09:47):
do you care about other people or do you simply
care about things? Do you simply care about loading up
your wallet with paper? Or do you want to load
up your heart with good, sensitive feelings and attitudes about
those folks that love you care about you or should
if they don't, it's probably a response to how you've
been acting. You know. We had a Memorial Day last week.

(10:11):
I don't know if you remember that. As we celebrated
Memorial Day after they named it, we were already claiming
it and doing it. Black women from the Sound had
already gathered to memorialized black soldiers who had not only
fought in the Civil War, but had fought in the
War for civility. Understand that one, that one is still

(10:34):
going on. And as observers, you know, as we look
around and see rap music and jazz music and R
and B music and everything else that we do as
from our melanin based situation, we find that they are emulating,

(10:55):
repeating what they see, and some folks will call it copying,
but you've got to be a lot better at doing
what you do if you want to call it a copy.
They're attempting to clone it, and I think that's a
good effort. But the main thing about that isn't that
they're trying to take our culture. The point is that
we're leading, and we don't know that we're leading. You

(11:16):
are the beginning. You are the middle. You are not
the end. You are the middle, the beginning. You are
the stimulus. And if you stimul late with love, stimulate
with the accurate creativity that you are born with, responsible

(11:37):
for showing, reflecting the sun, I think things will get
a little better. So once again, don't be out trying
to copy the people that are trying to copy. Stay original.
Read your thoughts. They come directly from God. They are
direct from God. You know what they are. You can
look in the mirror and when you see something there
that doesn't look like you feel, chances are the thing

(12:01):
inside there reflects that you're not being real with yourself.
I'm not trying to lecture you. I'm simply trying to
be sure that the love that I give to you
is being accepted the way I'm sending it. It's original,
it's not meant to push you in a direction other
than your real self. And it's real. It's definitely real,

(12:24):
and it's enough for everybody. It's not to just go
jump in the bed kind of love that I'm talking about.
I'm talking about to jump in your head kind of love.
The love that lingers, the love that lasts, the love
that will be there long after the wind blows the
ashes away from the burn that these people have earned.
So tell you what, We've got much to do, we

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have much to celebrate. We have a great show today
because I have some great people in the studio. That's
what's going to make it great. And I have a
great guy on this phone. I have a fellow who
has despite his slightness of personal height and weight. I
don't know if Charlie weighs one hundred and fifty pounds
or no, but Charlie has been wrestling those two thousand

(13:07):
pounds bulls and Steers made himself famous for being one
of the best of all time. Is Steer wrestling a
cowboy young black man, well black cowboys. I didn't hear
about it that's because you've been reading the wrong books.
You've been letting the wrong people tell you about his

(13:28):
story as opposed to the story black cowboys who had
a better reason to leave the South grab a horse
and head west or south into Mexico than black folk,
black men, black women. And we did. And once again,
leadership has been our position. It's not always been one

(13:52):
of historical accurate, historical reference. But as your grandpa, that'sh
your grandma. Look at those old stories that we've been told.
You'll find the truth. Charlie Sampson, Charlie Sampson is not
only a great echo, he's also a great stimulus for

(14:13):
the future. We have not only Charlie's memory as a
great bull wrestler. I'm the bull talker, He's the bull wrestler.
He is now put together. The Charlie Sampson Rodeo is
going to take place on the twenty eighth of June
in the city of Corona. Am I right as a
Corona Covina.

Speaker 16 (14:32):
I get there, Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 8 (14:34):
I get a mixed up Charlie.

Speaker 16 (14:35):
How are you autimal buddy? How you guys doing this?

Speaker 8 (14:38):
The Wallace God is great. I'm extremely grateful especially to
know a hero like you, somebody that's able to wrestle
above his weight, you know, And that's what we have
to do. We have to take on the challenge. My
mother and I tend to have a little argument. She says,
my grandfather told her, don't bite off more than you

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can chew.

Speaker 16 (15:00):
And I said, well, you never, especially in our life
the house, being a cowboy, you never want to bite
off more.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
You can chew.

Speaker 16 (15:07):
And you know, and that's one of the reason I'm
putting this rodeo on. Nothing to overdue, and I'm looking
forward to being there.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
Well, the other thing about Grandpa, Grandpa didn't have all
this teeth, okay, so, but he told me, he said,
as long as you got all your teeth, bite off
more than you can chew and start chewing, because one
day you won't have those teeth to do the chewing. Charlie,
you've bitten off a lot. You've bitten off a lot
to try to put together a rodeo here in southern California.

(15:39):
It's a lot. It's a lot to do. You're not
just putting on a bull riding exhibition. You're putting on
a full fledged rodeo.

Speaker 16 (15:47):
Telling us what that means is the pool Fledge Rodeo.
More importantly, it's in a great vendor, the vendor e
Gallap Georgia Rodeo Arena. It's an awesome facility, you know,
when you think about it to put on a rodeo
like I'm trying to put on, you want to have

(16:08):
a convenient for the bands to see all the events,
have a great seating. More importantly, a great experience. I've
been rodeo for my rodeo for over twenty something years.
I produced bull riding events for another ten of fifteen years,
and it's just an honor to be in La or

(16:30):
you know, being in Norco, California to host the first
Charlie Sampson Rodeo.

Speaker 8 (16:35):
Yeah, that'll be at the Ingles Equestrian Senator in Norcoe
and it's going to be on the twenty eighth of January.
It's the gates are open at four pm. I understand
that you also have an event on Friday night to
stimulate people's interesting get those boots kicking. Can you tell
us a little bit about that.

Speaker 16 (16:57):
Well, Friday night is a when I see hold down.
We're having a little meet and Greek. Actually it's my
bad because the meet and Greek is gonna be.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Godly.

Speaker 16 (17:12):
Mister Wallace, I apologize because that's okay. I don't know
where to meet. Greek's gonna be at well Born Meet.
We're gonna have a meet and greet at a nice
little restaurant. It's a vendor there right outside of Norco.
We'll give up, I know, we'll be there. Don an autograph, I'll.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
I'll give Unaddy, I'll give the Nelson family a call
and we'll be able to talk about that just before
the end of the show, so we can tell people
about that action because it is going to be an
activity dancing. Uh what's yourn Look what's the name of
that club in uh Rancho Cucamonge Epic. Yeah, it's gonna

(17:51):
be at Epics on Friday night. I guess that's June.

Speaker 16 (17:55):
Twenty seventh, twenty seven.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
Yeah, at Epics. So we'll talk a little bit more
about that is we get a little bit more information.
But Charlie, full fledged rodeo. A lot of folks, Uh,
you know, we say rodeo. We know about Rodeo Pervade,
we know the Bucking Broncos, but what what what are
some of the other events that people can look forward
to at your rodeo.

Speaker 16 (18:18):
Well, what's so mean about this rodeo, mister Wallace. This
we're going to educate people on when I say, the lifestyle,
the cowboy lifestyle of rodeo. How did rodeo come about? Well,
a lot of events or cattle driven or ranch driven.
You know, when you work on a rant, you got

(18:39):
a doctor on the cattle you you know you have
to have a horse and a rope out on the range. Well,
this rodeo is going to highlight team roping. Where you
go rope a calf, rope a steer, you rope the head,
rope the heel. You know, we get tied on them
these days. But back in the cowboy day, ranching day,

(19:02):
that was the only way to work. You know, Doctor
animals have events like that, we're gonna have speed and
then make it sound like.

Speaker 8 (19:11):
Make it sound like my dad chased me around to
give me that medicine when I was as sick as
a child. You know, come get this cast oil. No,
as soon as you come and get me, I'll do that.
And he didn't rope me, but he did get to
the point where I knew that it was better to
surrender than to actually put him through the trouble of
capturing me so sick the animals, that was part of

(19:33):
why you would capture and rope cattle, horses and all that.
And then on TV we saw that that was also
the way you put that hot iron on him and
branded him. I don't know if that if Peter shold
you allows you.

Speaker 16 (19:48):
To do that, or how do we know we're not
gonna do any hot iron or we're gonna take care
of the animal that's out in the rain. In the
rodeo setting, we have team roping y down seer wrestling.
That was that was put on by Bill Pickett. And
then at that event we got women barrel racing, where

(20:09):
a runners like a horse race, you know, the running
on time, got to go around those barrels fast and
got to be a pretty good athlete and run around
those barrels on a horse going thirty miles an hour. Then,
you know, obviously we got the most exciting event what
I did over twenty years. Bull riding. We got you know,
up and coming bull riders, junior bull riding, and we

(20:32):
have open bull riding. You know, we have events not toddlers,
but for young people sheep riding at the free event sheep. Right,
we got some study exciting event.

Speaker 8 (20:43):
Okay, very good. Are all of the uh, let's see
if if if anybody that's he in the studio or
in the listening audience that feels froggish and they want
to jump on the back of a horse or in
a cow or something like that, are you still open
to people signing up to participate.

Speaker 16 (21:04):
Yeah, we always want, uh, you know, good cowboys and
good cowgirls to sign up for our rodeo. It's an
open rodeo. So we would like to have you know,
a lot of the Southern California I got I'm in Arizona.
I got a lot of Native American friends they're wanting
to come. Got a lot of Hispanic friends that rise

(21:25):
bulls and rope they're coming. So we've got a mixture
of you know, all races of cowboys and cowgirls that's
gonna participate. And that's the part about Southern California. You
have so many multi culture participators to where we're gonna
highlight them all.

Speaker 8 (21:42):
Excellent, excellent, Okay, So diversity is is going to be
as real as reality is in terms of the people
who like to ride horses. Let me ask you something
about what many of us find entertaining and not really
know the importance of, and that's the clowns, the distractors,
the people that pull the bulls away from the from

(22:04):
the bull riders. Are you going to have those? Are
we going to recruit people out of the stance to
run out and do that.

Speaker 16 (22:09):
Yeah, you can't put on a rodeo about it. You
guys call them clowns, but we call them entertainers. You know,
you can't have a rodeo, but our rodeo, you know, entertainer,
you know, chucking and driving with the crowd, entertaining the
crowd more importantly protecting the cowboys. When you think about it,
they might have their makeup on being funny, but when

(22:30):
it comes down to us bull riders, we will not
be in that arena without a lifesaver, a cowboy lifestaver.
So yeah, we're gonna have several of them out there
entertaining the crowds more importantly saving the cowboys.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
Well, Charlie, we appreciate the fact that you have lasted
so long. I understand that it's a very very safe
operation that you never get injured as you ride these
bulls that it says something that you've been able to
do without hurting yourself. Is that true?

Speaker 16 (23:04):
Oh well, well come on, mister Wallace. I wrote bulls
for twenty years. But I'm like the Evo Canevo of
Rodeo been.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Charlie, do you have a bone? Do you have a
bone that hasn't been broken? Well?

Speaker 16 (23:18):
I never broke my nose though, buddy, story and I've
been broken from head to show, but I never broke
my nose. It's a miracle because I've been hit up
side the head several times and they stepped on me. Yeah,
it's a dangerous event.

Speaker 17 (23:34):
You know.

Speaker 16 (23:34):
It's a lifestyle that I chose, and fortunately for me,
I was, you know, pretty much be successful at it
for twenty years. But yeah, the bumps and bruises, you
know that that's part of the lifestyle.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
Buddy, Charlie. I think you probably if you wrote a
ten chapter book that about three of them could cover
all of the injuries that would be necessary to cover
all the injuries that you've accumulated during that time. But
you're a tough man and you're putting together a great event,
and we want to support that, and we want to
be there, and vending is possible, so we encourage people

(24:09):
to go out to your website, Charlie Sampson rodeo dot
com and there's still time for vendors to sign up.
And I do believe that's also where you can get
your tickets to this very very fine event that is
going to be entertaining. We have family tickets, we have
tickets for grown folks, and I don't know if they're

(24:31):
going to allow anybody to come out and pretend to
be an entertainer or a clown, but it will probably
be a couple of clowns that are not qualified to
be clowns to try to get out there. So you
want to be there to see that too. So, Charlie,
is there the last moment we'll bring you back? I'm
sure before the rodeo, But is there one last thing

(24:52):
you'd like to say?

Speaker 16 (24:54):
Well, I just appreciate you know ahead up before the
folks get there, and I appreciate you know them. Just
go to event bite if you want to get a ticket.
And all I got to say is I just can't
wait to meet and greet everybody on June twenty eighth.
You know, the door's open at three four o'clock and

(25:17):
I'll be around meeting and greeting people, and the the
actual show starts at six, and yeah, we're gonna have
a lot of fun. Sounds like we're going to do
the boots in the in the in the dirt he did,
but that's stuff we're going to talk about.

Speaker 8 (25:33):
Very good Charlie Sampson. We appreciate you very much and
look forward to seeing you on June twenty seventh and
June twenty eighth at the at the Epic Center. My
memories about as long as that bull ride the Epic
Center and the Norco Equestrian Center Ingles Equestrian Center in

(25:55):
Norco on the twenty eighth, Charlie Sampson Rodeo. Check it
out on your Internet spot. Charlie, you might get a
little extra help here. We've got the Southern California Black
Chamber of Commerce in today and we're going to be
talking to them and some of them may decide to
come out to the rodeo and I don't know, maybe

(26:15):
even ride a horse or something or know they're shaking
their head, they're not going to try to ride, but
maybe they'll get out and see you Charlie Sampton with
a Charlie Sampton rodeo. We appreciate you very much. This
is Empire Talks Back. I'm Wallace Allen on the case
for truth and justice with the right information to help
improve the situation. We're going to take a short break

(26:35):
and we'll be back with Southern California Black Chamber of Commerce.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
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Speaker 8 (26:40):
How are you doing this morning? Very good? Very good?
All right, We'll be right back, folks.

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(28:05):
take the highway that sub best.

Speaker 18 (28:10):
Get Jill kicks on.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
Ruts sixty man, don't forget Root sixty six wines right
through the middle of the in an empire, right through
San Bernardino. They call it Cahom Boulevard, they'll call it
Mount Vernon Avenue, they'll call it Fifth Street, food Hill,
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(28:33):
to come through. Come by, stick around, hang around, spend
some money, but don't miss Sand Bernardino. That's why they
wrote about it in the song San Bernardino Hot a
spot in town, hottest spot in southern California. They've been
trying to ruin the reputation because they want to protect
and keep this beautiful view of the Southern California mountains,

(28:58):
this beautiful view that some times, not often, but sometimes
you can stand up on those San Bernardino Mountains and
look to the west and actually see where the ocean
should be used. To be able to look out there
and see it. Actually, people will say they could feel
like they touched it. But once again, LA's so jealous.

(29:18):
They sent their smug this way so that it would
stop us from seeing that. But if you want to
come to a beautiful place, follow Root sixty six to
San Bernardino. Stop, hang around, spend some money, spend some time.
We're blessed this morning to have mister rich Wallace. And
it's important to note that he is the rich Wallace

(29:38):
because I'm the other Wallace. I'm rich, I'm wealthy, but
I don't have that money kind of rich Wallace like
mister rich Wallace. Rich, how are you doing this morning?

Speaker 19 (29:47):
I am doing well, sir, Thanks for having me, and
I thank you for agreeing with that so that we
can be both rich and I can be like you.

Speaker 8 (29:54):
Absolutely and you are not only doing well, you're doing good.
Your Chamber of Commerce is a benefit to the community.
The programs that you run over at the chamber are
a benefit to the community. So we can say you're
doing good, You're a good guy. Tell us a little
bit about why you're here this morning.

Speaker 19 (30:15):
Well, I thank you once again, I thank you for
having me and Rich Wallace here with the Southern California
Black Chamber of Commerce.

Speaker 20 (30:21):
With the fifteen.

Speaker 19 (30:22):
Chapters from the Desert to the Sea, we're celebrating our
June month Music month.

Speaker 20 (30:27):
Also along with our Juneteenth celebration.

Speaker 19 (30:29):
So June is gonna be a magical month for the
Southern California Black Chamber of Commerce Here in San Bernardino.
We're gonna be having a business bazaar every Monday night
over at our school campus where Youth Build program is
on Fourth Street in San Bernardino. Also, we have our
celebrity golf tournament coming up on June sixteenth. We're gonna
be in San Dimas at one of our other chapter

(30:52):
areas at Via Verdy Country Club and that'll be on
the sixteenth at eight am. So if you're not a golfer,
this is the golf tournament you should come to.

Speaker 8 (31:00):
That sounds like me, okay.

Speaker 19 (31:02):
So we're going to have a good time with raising
money for Alzheimer's Foundation, doing a golf tournament and our
bizarre on Monday. Every Monday in the month of June
is to raise funds for our annual Martin Luther King Parade,
which we do.

Speaker 20 (31:15):
Downtown San Bernardino.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
Very good. Like I said, you guys are doing not
only well, but you're doing good. You talked about the
golf tournament brings back some fond memories when I was
back younger teaching this young kid tiger how to play.
But or what's his name? Jaguar? I'm not sure there's
some kind of cat. But I don't see well enough

(31:38):
to follow the ball now, so I'll be out there.
I understand that you really don't even have to pick
up a golf club to have a good time at
the Black Chambers golf tournaments.

Speaker 19 (31:49):
Yeah, we have an area for old guys where you
just throw the ball.

Speaker 8 (31:55):
That's a good answer. I like that one. And we
have we have with you too, miss Key Gardner. Ranger.
Don't be a stranger, Miss s Granger. Very good, Okay,
Now I got it together, and you are working with
the Chamber and in particular doing what.

Speaker 20 (32:10):
What a week?

Speaker 15 (32:10):
So I am the vice president of the Southern California
Black Chamber of Commerce. From the Desert to the Sea
is the slogan, overseeing and working side by side with
rich Wallace the fifteen chapters that we have with the organization.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
Very good, okay, all right, So what are you a golfer?

Speaker 20 (32:29):
I pretend to be Okay, then I.

Speaker 8 (32:32):
Guess you'll be at the tournament and taking taking I
look the look taking taking your shot.

Speaker 20 (32:39):
We have a good look outfit at the tournament.

Speaker 19 (32:41):
So you you you wear your best looking outfit and
there's a trophy for that as well.

Speaker 8 (32:45):
All right, very good, okay, excellent. Tell us a little
bit more about the Monday night events that you're going
to be.

Speaker 19 (32:53):
Here on a Fourth Street downtown Summon, Ordina where the
Old Carousel Cross from the Old Carousel Mall on Monday Night.
We're going to have vendors out on opportunity just to
come out.

Speaker 20 (33:03):
We don't want to call.

Speaker 19 (33:03):
It Blue Monday, but it's going to be a Blue
Monday attitude where you can come out, sit, purchase from
some of the vendors, listen to a little soft music,
and just kind of relax and get your week started.
And given the small businesses in the city of San
Bernardino on opportunity to connect as well. So and it
will always be an opportunity to be able to connect
through the Southern California Black Chamber of Commerce where we

(33:26):
will be working with some of the other organizations in
town as well.

Speaker 20 (33:29):
So we like to tie up ourselves with.

Speaker 19 (33:31):
Other organizations that have the same goal in mind that
are putting back in the community. We have health Bizarre
Affairs and they're in a lot of other things that
we do at our school campus which is our Youth
Bield program in San Bernardino where we take in young
people from sixteen to thirty to get the high school diploma,
and that's at our building there where we will be
doing our Monday evening events.

Speaker 15 (33:53):
Can I add that for the Bit the Bizarre Mondays,
it's going to be starting as of June ninth from
five to nine pm, and so just so that we
would keep maximize the amount of guests and people that
can participate and promote their businesses. They do want to
reiterate June ninth from five to nine pm.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
Are we going to be recording or streaming that live?

Speaker 19 (34:15):
Yes, we do have a network we didn't mention called
EDGETV network and we're on the Roco said right, Roku platform.
So we have our young people where we do some
live filming and just with our film school there at
Youth Field program where we'll take young people into the
studio and they produce their own shows. They got to

(34:36):
play coming up and some other things that they do.
But we will be streaming the event live. We will
also be live with the golf tournament on June sixteenth,
and we'll also be live for our Martin Luther King Parade.

Speaker 20 (34:48):
We want to let everybody know we have.

Speaker 19 (34:49):
At least ten of the local high schools that are
going to be participating in it for a Martin Luther
King Day and it's gonna be a great opportunity all
the way up until then. Our conf comes up in
October where we're going to be doing that in the
City of Ontario. So if you're looking to connect business
wise or get some information, we're going to have a
Department of treasurer out Homeland Securities coming out, so any

(35:12):
of the federal agencies that you fear or would like
to find out how to work there.

Speaker 20 (35:21):
The RS was there last year. RS is there last year,
and she comes every year.

Speaker 19 (35:28):
One of the agents comes out and one of the
best things about being able to talk to the IRS
is that she'll explain the rules to you and give
you your options.

Speaker 15 (35:36):
Yes, yes, I like to also add that we have
monthly all fifteen chapters we have mixers every month, business mixers,
networking opportunities, and just information for the small businesses. Each
individual chapter has a monthly mixer, sometimes there via Zoom,
but majority of the time they're in person for these
businesses to be able to connect and get these type

(35:58):
of information.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
Very good. So have I been invited to come and
help interview these businesses or am I looking for my invitation?
Am I just boguarding my way into it?

Speaker 19 (36:11):
Well you're a wallace, so you're bull guarding your way in. Excellent,
you know, because that's how you get in. Come on, okay,
So no one's going to say no to you at
the door.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
So excellent, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 19 (36:23):
But yes, we would love to have the station outcome
and interview some of our celebrities at our golf tournament
on the sixteenth.

Speaker 20 (36:30):
Also on the small businesses.

Speaker 19 (36:32):
Small business need to be able to get out and
get the word out, and your show will help them
get the word out, especially local here in San Marindino.

Speaker 20 (36:38):
And we appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yeah, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
Well let's take a short break and we'll be right
back and we'll continue this great conversation and see what
we can do to stimulate some money in the right
direction to the projects at the Southern California Black Chamber
of Premise is supporting wonderful Empior talks back the Shannon

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Thank you for the break, and if you have legal advertising,
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at the table. Now we have Miss Linda Hart, we
have Miss Lou Dowdy and we that deplatfee. Good morning,

(38:58):
Good morning, Miss Luke. Yes, let me toss this to
you and see where we are and uh, what's going
on at this point? What do we oh, my goodness
in the world right now?

Speaker 12 (39:09):
Yes, yes, yes, so I'm off of my coffee. I'm
not gonna give the name because I'm not making no
revenue off of it, so but yes, I'm off my coffee.
Good morning world. Thank you for having us here, mister
Wallace on your platform, and we are here to talk
about an amazing fundraiser that we are doing, Loop Productions
commuting Unbrothers Services in conjunction with the African American Health Coalition.

(39:31):
Miss Linda Hart Okay, now I got it. Yes, yes,
and it's called the theme is called stepping Back into
the Fifties, so everything is gonna be fifties style. We
have beautiful models. We brought one of the models today.
That's here, Miss Deborah mclarthen.

Speaker 21 (39:46):
That I say, you'reth Deborah maclothern.

Speaker 12 (39:49):
Yes, yes, she's one of our lovely models. That's fifteen over.
I'm not gonna give your age, queen, but we're just
excited to do this one thing and I'm.

Speaker 8 (39:58):
We can't start off with you giving these falsehoods like this.
You have to tell the truth most of them. In
other words, most of the models will be fifty and above.

Speaker 12 (40:11):
All of the models fifteen above, you have been here.
I'm sixty two.

Speaker 17 (40:16):
I just had a birthday.

Speaker 12 (40:17):
I am sixty timmy birthday, all of mine.

Speaker 8 (40:20):
Okay, Well, I'm gonna give my disclaimer. I don't believe it,
but you guys can believe her if you want to.
Sixty two yeah, right, okay, okay, and beautiful. So you
have you have a fashion shop, a modeling yes, abi, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 12 (40:35):
So I'm Linda Hart, gonna do her what she do
in a minute, I'm a hurry up and say what
I gotta do and kick it over to her. First
of all, I love Linda. This is my community, auntie.
She does wonderful things in the community when it comes
to bringing awareness to mental health. So with Loup Productions,
we're all about providing platforms for the talented. So whether
you're a model, or you're a rapper or just a singer,

(40:59):
we like the showcase your talent. So one of the
things that we kind of did was kind of like
blend in what we do with individuals such as Linda
Hart and her organization to highlight and bring awareness to
whatever the cause may be. So this time around it's
mental health and dealing with women fifteen overamall. Let her
explain that. But I just wanna say. The event is

(41:20):
June the twenty eighth. It's gonna be here in San Bernardino,
and it's gonna be at the the event Premier Hall,
doors open at ten thirty a m. Is a luncheon
from ten thirty to two pm. We have the Mighty Bramatics,
which Luke Production's manager is gonna be performing. Lou Belli's
is gonna be performing, which is myself. We have Mauric's Howard.
We also have Key Keith Shephard who is gonna be hosting.

(41:45):
We're super excited about that. And that's thanks to the
Southern California Black Chamber of Commerce and just the connections there.
So it does pay to be a member of the
Southern California Black chamer Commerce. Only two hundred dollars a month,
but okay, just two hundred dollars a month, and you
could connect connect with each chapter from the Desert Tones
se As. Our president Nikki stated earlier, gotta put it

(42:06):
in there, gotta get it in here.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
And so your event is on the twenty eighth in
the afternoon.

Speaker 12 (42:12):
It's two hundred dollars a year, right, yeah, two hundred. Oh,
I'm sorry, two hundred dollars a year to explain.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
Explain that we're going to have to slow my members.

Speaker 12 (42:20):
Yeah, I'm sorry, two hundred.

Speaker 8 (42:22):
I don't want to, but you know, two hundred a
month is.

Speaker 12 (42:25):
Not yeah, right right, that's kind of pricey the year.
I'd better be getting me grants and all kinds that
two hundred dollars a year.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
And the event is from ten.

Speaker 12 (42:35):
To doors open at ten thirty. The event is over
at two thirty, and it's gonna be a lot of
wonderful things. Community drawings, we're going to be doing a
silent auction and just and then the ladies such as
Debora is going to be modeling. We have different categories
such as my Color, my Mood. The other one is
glits and Gowns. We're going to be dressed up in

(42:57):
these fabulous gowns that it's going to be dedicated to
the air the fifties era. So we're super excited about that.
And I'm gonna stop talking and I'm gonna bounce the
ball to lend a bone.

Speaker 8 (43:07):
There you go, Miss Linda Hart, how are you?

Speaker 13 (43:10):
I'm doing great, Wallace, And again thank you.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
For having listen. And again someone who's not just doing
well for herself but doing good for the community. Thanks
helping us with our mental health issues. Most of us
are not quite willing to admit that they have mental
health issues like I am. I mean, I don't think
like mister Sampson who rode bulls for so long, he's

(43:36):
got those physical injuries. As a black man, I've been
listening to bull for all my life and it certainly
causes a level of stress and emotional disc.

Speaker 13 (43:48):
And the one thing I can say, laughter is great.
And so you are playing a role in our community because.

Speaker 8 (43:55):
You everybody laughing at me.

Speaker 13 (44:00):
Right with you, And so that when you talk about
mental wellness, you do play a great part in that.
Because since I've been here, my drillin is for laughter.
It's all over the places. But yes, in partnership with
the Empire Black Chambers, and I want to thank them

(44:20):
for inviting the Southern Southern Southern Southern Chambers is the
fact that they reached out to us, and we greatly
appreciate that.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
Very good. So tell us a little bit about the
need for mental health, how you operate with mental health,
and how people can support what you do.

Speaker 13 (44:42):
Well. Wow, that is a wide spectrum, because when you
talk about mental illness and mental wellness and mental health,
those are three different categories, and just briefly go across
the mental illness, then we're talking about those debilitating such
as schizophrenia, antic depression, and then when we talk about wellness,

(45:02):
we're talking about.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
We have any woman at depression, I'm sure.

Speaker 13 (45:10):
And the spectrum is in there somewhere on the spectrum.
But for women over fifty, there are categories that we
can have discussions that when you take a look. I
was talking to an individual who was in her twenties
and she was sharing that those issues that they have
women twenty and thirty are different than the ones that

(45:30):
we have when we're fifty and over because the poll
for marriage gets a little less available and so therefore
there's a lot of chemical changes that take place as well.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Really some of those discussion online.

Speaker 8 (45:47):
But yes, yes, okay.

Speaker 13 (45:50):
So having those discussions is great, and so the proceeds
that we're going to use it for it's the established
support group for African American women over fifty.

Speaker 8 (45:59):
So you should sugested that having discussions between women and
women and men and women that are describe some discussions
that would be helpful, just between friends and associates, and
any types of discussions that you may organize.

Speaker 13 (46:19):
I think transparency and honesty plays a big part in that.
Even in relationships between a man and a woman, transparency
and honesty plays a big part in the communication and
how we communicate with each other and what that looks
like is very important. And listening. Listening plays a major
role in developing relationships as well.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
Listening and paying attention used to be, and I say
used to be before the Internet, before the most arrogant
and audacious political figure of all time of our time
has stepped up, that you could generally take people for

(47:06):
what they say as at least being sincere, if not accurate.
We're in an era now where people are being actually
rewarded for their abilities to stand on the lie or
the rock of the lie, as long as anybody accuses
or questions them. Our president and I say our because

(47:30):
he is our Oh Lord, have mercy. President for maybe
until the next the general elections two years from now,
when maybe there will be enough people who are tired
of the lie to impeach him. I want to put
that out there because I'm tired and I'm postantly looking

(47:53):
for a solution for the source of the lie. And
quite frankly, our president could leave tomorrow and the stain
that he has put on the truth will last a
long time. So people, we are in trouble, so mental health,
the idea of dealing with and looking for the truth

(48:16):
in this era where people are actually being rewarded for lying,
how do we deal with that? And if you guys
think I'm kidding and you know while and you want
to talk to me nine O nine This is my
private number. I'm not talking about the station number. Call
me anytime nine O nine nine one five seven nine
two two. I will help you get a mental stability

(48:40):
on the fact that we are very unstable with our
access to the truth, but it is something that we
can work on and thinking logically, we can figure this out.
Nine O nine nine one five seven nine two two.
Give me a call. I would love to talk to you,
especially if you're lost in the maze of amazing untruths

(49:05):
that are available to us right now.

Speaker 13 (49:08):
While if I may just briefly step because I want
to refocus back on to the fashion show, But for
black people, for what's happening with us now is that
if nothing really has changed for us, what's happening. Actually
the reason why we are being able to continue to
laugh and go through life is so nothing is really happening,

(49:31):
because nothing really has happened for us. So taking away
all the things that they're talking about taking away, how
can you take away something that's yours anyway?

Speaker 8 (49:40):
Well, I understand that, but I have access to my
ninety eight year old mother who is able to explain
to me and remind me that, you know, it was
very real, very short time ago that when you rolled
through the South, it wasn't a matter of are you
Filipino or are you Hispanic or are you African American,

(50:05):
a negro or the other end word. The issue was
if you were not white, you took your ass to
the back door if you were not white. And we
are now moving back into that direction as far as
our president and those white supremacists who are supporting him
and everybody that's supporting him is not a white supremacist,
but you get caught up in the day.

Speaker 13 (50:26):
That's why we need to establish institutions in what we own,
in which we have control over, so that we can
walk through our own front doors.

Speaker 8 (50:34):
I liking who likes I like who likes me, And
I understand that there are many people who do not
have melanin in their skin, who are looking for truth
and who are acting in truth. And so I'm not
saying everybody white that there's something wrong with them. I'm
saying that, and I'm not saying that just because you
have melanin that there's something right with you. It's logical thinking.

(51:00):
It's a car about people and each other, and it's
not about being a thing person a person who looks
to accumulate things and hotels and toilet.

Speaker 13 (51:10):
Think we're establishing a new platform. We can have that conversation.

Speaker 8 (51:14):
Well, no, no, this as you know this, you know,
just like you laugh, you gotta laugh to keep them proving.
And I'm explaining why we are crying sometimes and why
we need to support each other. We need to come
to the fashion show, We need to revisit the friends.
It was a good time. There were good times there,
and we're going to have a good time with that,
and we're going to meet people who are wanting to

(51:34):
find truth and walk with truth. And you are looking
for people who are willing to deal with the fact
that there are mental health issues. We're not trying to
hide from that. We are looking to step into it,
deal with it, and move it on with it. That's right.

Speaker 13 (51:49):
And we have a beautiful model here.

Speaker 21 (51:51):
Yes, yes, I just wanted to also say that mental
health and physical health go hand in hand. So I think,
like with the fashion show, we look better, you know,
they say that you look good, you feel good. You
may not feel your best, but you feel a lot
better than you would when you look good. Cause it's

(52:12):
it's definitely a serious thing. And depression and a lot
of that stuff goes along with mental health. But your
physical health and mental health to me goes hand in hand.

Speaker 8 (52:20):
That's right. What other types of mental health services are
you able to provide or suggest to people?

Speaker 13 (52:26):
Community workshops? Uh, we have youth mental health one on
one community workshops. Were got putting together a calendar of
events of community workshops. Suicide know the science because suicide
is on the rise by African Americans. So we're looking
and men mental health as well a man.

Speaker 8 (52:47):
Yeah, well, I'm I'm an example. I mean I could
I h I said, because uh it's true that. Uh
you know, sometimes I get a good night's sleep and
sometimes I toss and turn, and uh, I can't predict
when it's going to be. I know that the news
is now the source of quiet nights. If the last

(53:07):
thing I watch is the news on TV.

Speaker 17 (53:09):
I'm not.

Speaker 8 (53:11):
I'm not as settled as I could. And comedy and
things of that short are important, Uh, lou As we
look at productions and these are that short, are you
able to tell us some of the things that you're
doing in the future. I had one of my godchildren
tell me that, ooh, Papa, I'm going to San Antonio,

(53:33):
what's that all about?

Speaker 12 (53:36):
Okay, okay, snap snaps. Yes, So yes, LU Production Once again,
like I said, our whole thing, it stands for it's
not my name some a parent because we started with
the youth and they just duve me Louke because it's
Lucretia and LU Production. But it stands for launching unique
entertainment production management companies. So we are we are. We're
doing our first first out of state show in San Antonio, Texas.

(53:59):
All this the ninth that's a hip hop, R and
B RAP showcase in conjunction with a comedy show. So
comedian Mac Rome is going to be hosting, and we
have some local comedians Ad Snipes, Janney Tucker, and Drew Blues.
Who's gonna be out there some of our performers. It's
gonna be Gosh Yanni Yanni, Mommy Mac Pepper Boy, and

(54:24):
then Miss Janey Maya Janey. That's that's who you're speaking of.
Such a beautiful spirit. Yeah, I told her. I was like,
I thought of her up instantly. I was like, you
gotta come, you gotta come to San Antonio with us
and whatnot. So we have that happening all of the
Sudden ninth in San Antonio and then also coming up
with this beautiful fashion show on the twenty eighth of June.
We're excited. I want to say, get your tickets. They're

(54:45):
on sale right now until June the fifth, only fifty
dollars to support these two amazing organizations that are doing
a lot out here in the community. With Linda Hart
with her with the mental health and the health and
then with us with production. You know, we just trying
to keep it alive, the entertainment alive. It's hard out here.

Speaker 16 (55:05):
It's hot up here.

Speaker 8 (55:07):
Okay, let me stop.

Speaker 12 (55:10):
Rent, Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 13 (55:12):
But it is.

Speaker 12 (55:13):
And then if you ever want to support any things
that we are doing in the future, you can reach
out to Linda hard at Heart.

Speaker 13 (55:20):
L dot a m HC at gmail dot com.

Speaker 12 (55:24):
If you want to support Loop Productions by donations volunteers,
you can reach us at l u E dot info
at yahoo dot com or Loop Productions at yahoo dot com.
And in those tickets for the fashion show, you can
also go online to get them at ticket Leap as well.
They are sixty five dollars, but we got them in
hand right now for fifty dollars. Get your ticket. This
is gonna be one for the books, right missus, Linda, right,

(55:47):
Debra right, Thank you. Willas the platform, You're.

Speaker 8 (55:52):
Welcome and as long as you guys are out there
getting ready to write checks, let me thank you so.
Mad Paper can use some support, and we are. We
are supported by the Improved Association of five oh one
C three and that nonprofit is the platform that opens

(56:12):
the door for our organizations like yours to come.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Thanks.

Speaker 8 (56:16):
If you guys want to help out with that. You
can use that same number that I give you to
call me to cust me out. You can call me
and support me nine o nine nine one five seven
nine to two. Man, I really appreciate having the good
feeling that knows we have people like you who are

(56:36):
trying to do something besides getting a new car. And
nothing wrong with a new car. Don't get me wrong,
but we do want to get some new spirits. We
do want to get some new attitude. We want to
put some spine in the back of in our backs.
We want us to be able to stand up straight
and move forward knowing that love is the answer, Love

(56:57):
is the cause, love is the fuel. And if we
appreciate each other and move toward working with the people
that we like and who like us, we're gonna do
a lot better and with I know I don't want
to upset your London, but this is a time when
we really need to face the fact that everybody out

(57:18):
here doesn't like us, and us not being just based
on our color. But there's some people who are tracked,
who are attracted to chaos and confusion because that is
how they move. There are people out here who want
to dumb down the world because they are not interested
in doing the study to make themselves smart enough to compete.

(57:40):
So I encourage you to keep competing, keep learning, keep
stepping out here and doing those things that will make
our little light shine. And don't hide it under the
bash or bush. And what was that we learned in
Sunday school? Don't hide you say it again?

Speaker 21 (57:58):
Yeah, don't put your lamp up under the bush.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
Don't let dear let your light shine, folks. And that's
what we're talking about. Eric, how we doing. We got
two minutes. Let's ride out of here on Root sixty six.
And understand, folks, that Root sixty six will lead you
to San Bernardino, one of the greatest places on the planet,
certainly one of the most beautiful places. And if I
have my way, the highway will lead you to the Highway,

(58:25):
the way of getting along and making the world stronger
because of love and not because you beat people down.
God bless you guys, Thank you for hanging out. Thank you,
and look forward to under two circumstances. One, if the
Good Lord's willing to if the creek don't rise, thank you, ver.

Speaker 18 (58:48):
Six it wins from Chicago to really Moreland two one
thousand miles. All Louie, get your kicks.

Speaker 20 (59:07):
On Rude sixty six.

Speaker 18 (59:12):
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