KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen (Sun, 29 Jun, 2025)

KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 29 Jun, 2025

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 10 (07:05):
Oy Oh yeah, keep that little bed going for me there.
This is Empire Talks Back. Good morning, good morning, good afternoon,
good evening, whatever time you are picking up this podcast
or if you're listening live this wonderful Sunday morning, I'm

(07:27):
Wallace Allen on the case for truth and justice with
the right information to help improve the situation. Empire Talks
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(08:17):
insightful website. If I must say so myself, Welcome to
the month of June, as it's about to go out
the door, remembering still that June is Black Music Month
and it's Men's Health month. As a result of the
men's health, we're going to lead into an observation and
an opportunity to tie a couple of things together. Self discipline,

(08:43):
bad habits. Folks trying to lead you in the wrong
direction or lead you in the direction that they think
is right, but it's not good for you. You'll have
to be the one to figure that out. You'll have
to be the one to make the determination that the
direction you're going is either correct or incorrect. We're going
to talk about a couple of bad habits that we

(09:06):
have and talk to somebody who has beaten one of
those bad habits, turned it around, kicked it in the elbows,
and decided to do something that was going to make
him a healthier person physically, and darned if it didn't
make him a healthier person mentally as well. And as
we look at this example of the benefit, the benefit

(09:31):
of self control, we may find ourselves in better shape
to deal with the politic or the lack of compassion
that is walking around under the guise of politics, and
how we can deal with those aspects.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
We have.

Speaker 10 (09:52):
A bad habit taking place in terms of a liar
in the White House. But he's so convincing, one of
the most convincing charismatic con men of all time. He
has you believing that things that are obviously bad for.

Speaker 8 (10:11):
You are good for you.

Speaker 10 (10:13):
You know, steal from the poor to give to the rich.
It's a great idea if you're rich, but it's not
a great idea if you are wanting to maintain balance
and wanting to have some stability in the world, and
wanting to have an opportunity for the world to grow.
That doesn't take place when you put all of the
money in the hands of a few and all of

(10:35):
the misery in the hands of the many. They get
tax cuts, we get healthcare cuts. Well, once again, if
you decide to take care of your life with the
level of discipline, chances are you can keep control of
those aspects that we consider so important. Survival is important,

(10:59):
but thrive is even more important. California has because all
we all deserve to live in healthy communities with clean
air and clean water, free from the tobacco industry's death, disease,
and toxic waste. All kids suffer, and all of our

(11:23):
kids should be able to grow up without big tobacco
poisoning their future. Cigarettes don't just stop hurting you when
you put them in. Put that tobacco in your body.
When you throw those cigarettes away, the filters, the whole
aspect of it, that toxicity stays in the environment. We

(11:45):
need to take care of that. And every now and then,
despite the rules and the laws and the marketing that
we have that says cigarettes are bad, you've got billion
dollar tobacco industry that's telling you it's good. We have
a guest today, mister Keenan aber crimdiam Aber crime Bia,

(12:09):
who did something that is very admirable. You know, he
kicked the cigarette habit. He kicked the tobacco habit. It's
not easy, but he did it. And we want to
introduce him and bring him in as soon as soon
as possible.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
And uh.

Speaker 10 (12:28):
Yeah, and we're going to take a short break. But
after we come buy of that short break, we're going
to talk to mister Abercrombiaan uh find out a little
bit more about his life before his life during the
smoking episodes and what he did to stop and why
it's so important. And we're going to then get an
opportunity to speak to our friend, Attorney Hugo Salazar and

(12:52):
see if we can take some of that inspiration of
self discipline that we'll get from Keenan to how we
deal with the assault on our freedoms, How do we
deal with the assault on our basic rights here in
America are basic expectations of fairness, our basic desire to

(13:13):
be fair and to be able to thrive. As a
result of that atmosphere with the politicians that we vote for,
that we put in place to take care of us,
that seem to as soon as they get in there,
want to switch around and take care of the emperor

(13:34):
or the emperor to be so let's take this short
break and when we come back, let's get mister Keenan
ABERCROMBIEA on the line and let him inspire us with
the great message of self discipline and the benefits therein.
This is Empire Talks. Back on Wallace, Allen. We're here
on the case for truth and justice with the right information,

(13:57):
and we're going to have some great information for you
about forty five seconds right back.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
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Speaker 6 (15:06):
Eve you ever plan to move Who West?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Travel my WII travel wayish.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
Yeah, the on six.

Speaker 10 (15:23):
Hey, the best part of Route sixty six rods right
through the Inland Empire. Oh yeah, from they're gonna tell
you about it. He's gonna tell you it comes through
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(15:46):
six right here in the Inland Empire. So we're going
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you as we go along and move towards the Root
sixty six Centennial which takes place next here. But uh,
once again, we're right in the mix, so we don't
want to miss that far. Okay, we have mister Keenan

(16:07):
Abercrombia on the line. Keenan, how are you this morning?

Speaker 8 (16:12):
I'm good, yourself, God is great.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
I'm extremely grateful. How are you, my friend? How's life
without cigarettes? How's life without tobacco?

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Oh? Man, life with our tobacco was I can breathe again.

Speaker 10 (16:30):
And people around you can breathe again. You know, Keenan
that it's all tell us a little bit about yourself.
You're a dad, you're a chef, you're a husband, uh,
tell us a little bit about your your your your
youth mentors, your youth mentor, tell us a little bit
about yourself and let's let's get into him maybe why

(16:54):
you started smoking, what happened with that, and more importantly,
how you gathered that discipline to stop.

Speaker 12 (17:02):
Absolutely well again, my name is Keenan Abracumbia. I am
a private chef for a catering company called Keys Kitchen,
and I'm also a mentor for kids, a part of
a non profit organization called the Compton dread Questrians.

Speaker 8 (17:18):
We teach kids.

Speaker 12 (17:20):
How to maintain and take responsibility for animals, agriculture, vegetables,
all that stuff. And yeah, I have three kids, three
beautiful daughters eleven, five and three, and my purpose for
all of this is to, you know, make sure that
they have a better future, make sure the air is

(17:42):
a lot cleaner. So, like I said, I use horses
and vegetables to you know, influence and mentor kids, teach
them how to be responsible and stuff like that. And yeah,
I do some other cool stuff too on the side.
It's called the Compon Cowboys.

Speaker 10 (18:00):
Compton Cowboys. That and you've you're describing a little ranch life,
you know, with the with the animals and the agriculture
appreciation for clean air. How where do we do this
in Compton?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Is this.

Speaker 10 (18:18):
Is this a hidden feature? I'm familiar with the Compton
Cowboys in the sense.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
But actually the place is called the Richland Farms.

Speaker 12 (18:26):
It was established in nineteen eighty eight and the actual
founder of Compton, Will Compton, deemed this neighborhood, as you know,
agricultural land. So the city can't come in and you know,
try to take us down. We have horses, chickens, goats, lamas, pigs,
anything that you can name, we probably have over here.
But they can't come in and reinforce any laws on

(18:49):
us because our neighborhood is sacred.

Speaker 10 (18:52):
Very good. So is this property available to youth from
outside of Compton or is your primarily working with young people?

Speaker 12 (19:02):
We service We serviced youth all across La County between Burbank, Malibu, Calabasa's,
Orange County, Riverside north Ridge. We have we have a
wide variety of students that come up and down La County.

Speaker 10 (19:19):
Let's let's get you to give a number for how
people can reach out to you on that and and
another note yesterday one of Compton Cowboys uh legendary people.
Mister Charlie Sampson had his rodeo last night in uh.

Speaker 12 (19:35):
First it's first ever rodeo and it was amazing. I
was in attendance, me and my team, we brought our kids.
It was it was a beautiful experience. It was man,
it was.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
It was dope, excellent, excellent, excellent. I'm glad to hear
that you were there. I'm glad to hear that you
were able to take some young people out there to that.

Speaker 8 (19:53):
So oh yeah.

Speaker 10 (19:55):
So now this ongoing battle against big tobacco, well, first
of all, let's let's get that phone number so people
could reach out to you. I think this project that
you're working on with the with the animals and the
agriculture and working with our kids is amazing. We would
like to be as much supported at as possible.

Speaker 8 (20:17):
Absolutely. Well. My program is called the Compton Julia Questions.

Speaker 12 (20:22):
We serviced the US from seven ages of seven to
eighteen and you can find us on our website called
Compton Junia Questions dot org. We're actually doing a summer
camp right now. Really we do it from Monday through
Thursday from nine to three o'clock and we you know,
we got a group of thirty out here, thirty kids

(20:43):
and our mentors.

Speaker 8 (20:45):
I'm sorry, my roosters a rooster very good.

Speaker 10 (20:49):
That that makes it even more important of and you know,
spread the word more important to note that you keep
your health because you've got an attitude that wants to
support our kids, and we don't need you dying early.

Speaker 8 (21:04):
You know, so absolutely not our community.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
Our community is attacked ten times more than any other
community in terms of trying to get our kids to
participate in tobacco, to encourage our adults to continue smoking
and mental cigarettes. Of you know that that's floods our market.
Tell us some of the urgent concerns or some of

(21:33):
the reasons why you decided to stop smoking, and tell
us the trip that you had to take in order
to stop, because that discipline is a critical thing for
our future.

Speaker 12 (21:45):
What I was, I was actually a product of that
same narrative. At a very young age, my mom was
my best friend, so it was just me and her,
and she smoked. I didn't know why she smoked, but
that's all I knew, So I thought it was you know,
I thought it was a natural thing. And I picked

(22:05):
up a cigarette about the age of eight probably, and
by the age of ten, I was maybe smoking two
or three a week, and then by the age of twelve,
I was smoking a pack. So it's very important to
me because I was a product of that. I came

(22:25):
from the going to the liquor store for my mom
with the note on my on my chest that she
knew the the owner, and the note said, here's money
for my smokes. And I didn't know what that was.
I just went home and you know, gave my mom
the bag. I got my candy out the bag, and

(22:46):
she got her green and her green.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
And white box. Okay.

Speaker 12 (22:49):
And then when I got older, I was like, oh,
that's what the green and white box was. I thought
it was a Nike sign. At first it wasn't a
Nike sign.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
It was a Newport sign.

Speaker 12 (22:57):
And you know, at the age of twelve, I was,
you know, smoking cigarettes, taking it from my mom, and
I recently just lost m cigarettes.

Speaker 8 (23:08):
Uh tobacco.

Speaker 10 (23:10):
Sorry to hear that.

Speaker 12 (23:12):
Yeah, that's that's that's what really made me change my
whole narrative on life.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
And you know, having kids and being able to be here.

Speaker 12 (23:21):
For them when I when I should be, not when
I if I, if I leave early because I've and
those with too much tobacco or you know, stuff like that,
and that's my fault.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
I want to be able to, you know, change that
narrative and break that generational curse.

Speaker 10 (23:38):
Well, what's one thing to do it for yourself? And uh,
you know, how how does it? How does the ten
year old get a pack of cigarettes?

Speaker 8 (23:49):
How?

Speaker 10 (23:49):
How impactful was it when the government said that you
can no longer buy cigarettes if you're young? How how
did you move out of the arena of cigarette consumption? What?
What beyond your mother's passing? What was what was involved?

(24:11):
Did you just quit quit or did you wean yourself off?
Or did you tie your mouth together?

Speaker 8 (24:17):
What happened?

Speaker 12 (24:23):
I tried to maybe about you know, five to six
years before that, but I worked in the industry where
it was just super common. I'm I work in the
restaurant industry, so smoking cigarettes on your on your five
minute break was it was everything. But I can I
can feel the effects on my body. I love and

(24:43):
I just felt, you know, eventually, I'm gonna have to
give this up. And in my twenties I was like, oh,
I'll give it up. In my thirties and I was
saying my thirties. You know, a couple of years in,
I was like, oh, I really need to give this
up because I could feel it physically. I'm I'm more winded.
I I have more chest pains when I was doing it,

(25:04):
and you know, I couldn't do anything durability.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
You know, I couldn't run.

Speaker 12 (25:08):
So I tried to wean myself off and it kind
of worked, and then it didn't because life is life
and how people deal with life is a vice. Yeah,
and you know I kept going back to it, left
it and kept going back to it.

Speaker 8 (25:25):
But then.

Speaker 12 (25:27):
You know, me supporting my mom and my mom supporting
me through the years.

Speaker 8 (25:31):
You know, like I said, that was my best friend.
Once she got to the.

Speaker 12 (25:35):
End of her roads, that's when I was like, you
know what this is it.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
I got it.

Speaker 12 (25:40):
I had to live for her because she lived to
this point and she should have stopped.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
It's a long time her to stop.

Speaker 12 (25:49):
When I was a kid, and then when I got
an adult, we was doing it together. So it was
you know, it was more I knew I had to
do it eventually, and all my friends around me, they
be like, man, you shouldn't do that.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
I'm like, man, I'm a quit eventually.

Speaker 12 (26:00):
I'm quit eventually, and then once eventually came around, it stuck.

Speaker 8 (26:06):
It is sticking.

Speaker 10 (26:07):
So you just one day you didn't pick up the cigarette, yep,
and you haven't gone back.

Speaker 11 (26:17):
No.

Speaker 8 (26:17):
I know.

Speaker 10 (26:18):
When I quit, I kept a pack of cigarettes in
the glove compartment because I figured that you haven't really
quit unless you make the choice to not smoke every day.
And so it's one thing to say you quit if
you don't have any cigarettes around, and there's something else
to say it quit in the midst of access to them.

(26:42):
So that that's why I asked that question. I realized
that the temptation was gonna come from others, and so
I supplied it to myself. And you know, I felt
a little stronger about not smoking. And I'm happy to
say it's been at least ten years since I smoked
a cigarette, so and that's that's late. Yeah, Well, you

(27:04):
know I've started feeling better right away, so that that
part of it is rewarding. I suppose, Uh, you know,
how long was it before you started feeling the benefits
of not smoking?

Speaker 12 (27:16):
Oh? Man, I say, like immediately immediately before I couldn't
take a deep breath I would struggle to exhale, and
you know, once I just put them down, I was like, Oh,
this is what life feels like to breathe again. Because
I didn't, I didn't realize that I was doing so

(27:37):
much damage to myself until I realized, oh, I'm out
of breath. I can't even run down the street. I
you know, I can't play with my kids. This is
not this is not a scenario that I want to
continue to do. And I say, within within at least
a month, my lungs got better.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
I could.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
So so, so now we can give me more. We
can blame the cigarette companies for being who they are,
the tobacco companies for being who they are and trying
to market to us, but we have to kind of
step up and take charge of the fact that we
make these choices. So, as you are working with working

(28:19):
with these young folks as a mentor, Hello, hello, can yeah,
we can hear you. As you're working with these young
people as a mentor, do you discuss cigarettes and discipline?
How do we make those things work? I think we've
I think we've lost that connection. You try to pick

(28:40):
him back up, and we're going to take a short
break and we're also going to bring Hugo in right
after this break so that we'll have both of them online.
This is Empire Talks Back. I'm Wallace Allen. We're trying
to make you, guys, realize that you have the world
under your thumb and it's up to you to make
it world the way you wanted to. And you do

(29:02):
have that ability. You got that responsibility as a matter
of fact, because others are depending on you. We've got
little kids looking up to you, You've got husbands and
wives looking at you and depending on you. So we
have to make these decisions and we have to stick
with them, and they go beyond smoking cigarettes and go, sir,
go shoot a lot deeper in our society. We'll be

(29:24):
right back after this short break.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
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Speaker 10 (30:21):
All right, this is Empire Talks back on Wallace Allen.
We are back with Keenan. We were talking. I was
asking you about how how you message or involved the
UH no tobacco message as you are mentoring your your
young kids there. Do you bring that up at all? Keenan?

Speaker 8 (30:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (30:45):
Yeah, Do you do you bring up the leave tobacco
lone message as you deal with your uh with your mentors?

Speaker 12 (30:53):
Mentor ees, No, not right now, because they're too young, daddy,
younger age, you know.

Speaker 8 (31:03):
But I do.

Speaker 12 (31:03):
I do give them awareness of making their own decisions.
They don't have to follow the next person's decision because
it looks cool, you know. I actually just I want
to emphasize that because everybody has a choice and everybody
has a decision to make. If you don't make your
own choices and your decisions, and you become a product

(31:25):
of your environment, then you know, that's who you'll be.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
But you know, I don't push tobacco on my on
my youth.

Speaker 12 (31:34):
I just kind of more influenced them to make their
own decisions, don't, you know, follow the trends or the
hipster stuff.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
Yeah, well, you know, think about how young you were.
You weren't following the trends of the hipsters. You were
doing what you see the people you love do and
just kind of following along with that. So you know,
we I'm agreeing with you that it's important to keep
them on that discipline. But boy, let them know smoking
cigaret rich is not a good choice, is probably not

(32:04):
a bad direction to go. We have attorney Hugo Salazar.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
Who's with us.

Speaker 10 (32:09):
He is a he's here to help us talk about,
you know, the important of making decisions about your life
in the in the turmoil that's going on politically around here.

Speaker 8 (32:19):
Uh, Hugo did.

Speaker 10 (32:21):
I don't know if you had a chance to hear
some of the things we've talked about with the anti
tobacco with mister Keenan here, but if you got any
opinion on that, I'd like to hear it real quick
here before we get into our messaging.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Hey, how you doing good? Morning everybody. As I'm saying
thanks to Waters for the chat again, I'm gonna say
this that look, every single type of product, maybe alcohol,
tobacco or anything, Uh, there's there's a there's a marketing
plan that's design for certain kind of people who want
to smoke this, or want to drink this, or want
to have it. And all I got to say is, look,

(32:57):
be healthy, teach our kids with examples and know that.
You know, there's these big, most evidon dollar companies that
make money off our people. So you know, I tell
my kids, I tell my clients, I tell anybody the community. Hey, man,
don't be don't be consuming stuff that the people who
who are banningirs and renners don't do themselves because they
obviously are peddling this to our people. And that's all

(33:20):
I got to say. Don't smoke, don't drain, because every
time you open that up, that that thing you're you're doing,
you're part of a plan, a marketing plan that's being
targeted to people who are black and brown.

Speaker 10 (33:31):
Ah, there's the secret, and we're going to get into that. Uh. Keenan.
We appreciate the leadership you're taking and the and the
mentoring attitude that you're taking and we would love to
be able to say that you had a program, uh,
your equestrian program out here in the Inland Empire. So
if there's some way we can tie you together, uh

(33:51):
and get you guys out here on horseback, we'd love
to do it. Glad to know that you're out here
for the Charlie Sampson Rodeo. How can people if they
they want to stop smoking, how can they get involved
with the program that you're that you've been uh involved in.

Speaker 12 (34:09):
Well, you can go through our website and you can
sign up either as a volunteer or as a sponsor.
We do have sponsorships on there for people of the
youth and the people of the adulthood that are going
through you know, a lot of stuff in life. So
our website is Coptocowboys dot com. That's my sub website,
and then my other one is cot Questions dot org,
which is my nonprofit organization.

Speaker 10 (34:31):
Okay, and the one regarding that the tobacco is www
dot kick c a dot org. Kick c A do. Yeah,
So we want to encourage people to you know, follow
that line. And I want to thank you for spending
your time with us this morning, and once again, keep

(34:52):
up the keep up the long ride. It's a long ride.
And uh, keep those kids right there next to you.
God bless you for what you're doing. We're gonna u
We're gonna get with Attorney Salazar about some of the
things that are going on around us. But HUGO, basic
coffee talk. Uh, discipline is important because we're being marketed

(35:16):
with all kind of crazy stuff right now. We're being
marketed with the idea that, you know, rich people deserve
money so much that it's good to take it from
poor people. That you know, our healthcare is not really
that much of an issue. That you know, even probably
smoking cigarettes is good for us. I would be surprised

(35:39):
if if we didn't come, if mister Trump didn't come
out with a safe brand of cigarettes. I remember when
I was a kid, You don't, Anthony's laughing here. When
I was a kid, they I think Chesterfield cigarettes, part
of their little theme was it's good for you. So,
you know, telling the lie over and over seems to

(36:00):
be something that well, this doesn't seem to be. It's
something that Trump's specifically says in this book. You know,
you say it over and over and pretty soon people
start to believe it. What is our remedy against the
lie hugo? How do we deal with that? And what
other big issues this week have cut your attention?

Speaker 1 (36:23):
So first of all, thank you. I've change Chattikan. So
I'll tell you a big issue here I see is
that you know, certain things are told to certain people.
I come from that time frame when I was in
school where you know, obviously it's not the thing now,
but you know, college wasn't pushed to us. It was

(36:45):
you know what shop classes. Right, I'm a little bit older,
so I'm not transitioning, and now it's switching over. Now
you know the other new thing. Don't go to college.
It's too expensive, but you're not going to get the loads.
There's no jobs. And I'll tell you this, I think
that everything comes down to education. Knowledge is power, and
I think right now in our youth, there is this

(37:06):
common thread that you see through social media, through the
publicnsicist that hey man, and even through this administration, that
they're trying to make it so expensive so that black
and brown youth can't go to college, and they're doing
it intentionally so that they don't. They're easily fooled easily
manipulated and they're easily be able to use these things anyways.

(37:27):
But you're saying, well, no.

Speaker 10 (37:29):
I was, I was cheering. I was just saying amen, because.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
That's the thing.

Speaker 10 (37:34):
You're right on it, I mean, and even to the
point of penalizing the schools for wanting to provide the education.
It's it's it's it's amazing. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
And not only not only are they are they trying
to push, you know, our youth from not going to
college to get educated, but they're also pushing certain things.
You know, I grew up, you know, I went to
college when you know, the first Chicano Latino's majors are
being you know, being you know, proposed when it was
so tough to get those kind of major backgrounds. And

(38:05):
I'll tell you this, they're pushing these, uh, these touches
of majors in such studies that teach you about the self,
teach you about who you are, where your community comes from.
And you know what, and the reason why they do
that is because our youth won't be self educated about
who they are and where they come from, and they'll
be able to better see the ps that comes out

(38:26):
to the administration because you already see it now. I mean, look,
I mean they're anti anti black and brown people. I
mean they're telling you, they're telling to your face, like, look,
you don't believe in diversity, podity and inclusion. They're telling
us to our face. So any kind of issue that
comes down at the end of the day is to
get educated and become knowledgeable of what's going on in
your community, so you can see through the ps of

(38:48):
the things they're trying to send us and tell us
that's why we get these issues now, you know of
bills being passed by the Senate and now by the Senate,
of things being done in the middle of the night
because they don't want us to know. They want us
to be stuck to TikTok and Facebook and AI because
they want us reliant. Think about this and separate topic
regarding AI. It's had a conversation with a buddy of

(39:09):
mind that an attorney. You know, they're they're giving you
the free version of AI right now, right, you know
it's not chat, GPT, all these different versions. Well, they
want you to get hooked on it so that when
they want to pull the plug, you know, a year
or two years from now, and these kids don't know
how to write a sentence or they're going to be like,

(39:30):
now you've got to pay, and what they're gonna do,
they're gonna pay now. They want to take all the different,
you know, good middle class paying jobs, so you have
to work at the specific types of positions. They want
to take those middle class positions that used to be
the things that you know, when I was growing up,
getting a good government job, you know, being able to pay,
you know, a middle class you know, life stuff. They

(39:50):
take that away so that you have to depend on them,
so you have to do what they say. And at
the end of the day, they want you to not
be educated and be dependent upon them so that you
can't fight back. It's just, you know, I don't make
this kind of a conspiracy, but sounds to me like,
you know, a very serious point one on a point
highlights offtitute. You tell me you want to talk about this,

(40:11):
I don't know. You notice this there was this the
selected official that was the that was either detained or
stopped by the FBI for a TikTok posting against the
ice rates. This last week yearned about this ballas it
was a vice mayor. I'll get her name.

Speaker 10 (40:27):
Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, who who questioned the UH availability
or the response from the UH the gang the street
gangs to Yeah, let.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Me let me. Let me tell you about that, because
you know, that's a that's a chilling effect. Everybody should
be worried about that, because there's two things that come
out of that. One, there's an FBI agency that is
just reviewing social media on political tone and contents. Right
because the the TikTok thing or Facebook thing doesn't rise

(41:03):
to the level of inciting violence or or soliciting you know,
any kind of co manact bs, any any US attorney
would have seen that said this is manly years. There's
no cause of action here. But what you should be
concerned about is that they sent uh. There's a department
within the FBI that is reviewing and looking at Facebook
and TikTok postings that are directly relating in opposition to

(41:25):
this administration. Number One, that's concerning because that could lead
to so many other things. Number Two, dolarge, you said,
you tell me what you want to talk about. And
number two, that they're there obviously because there's thousands and
thousands of postings that they're using AI to review and
analyze you know, gigabytes, the mega bietes and gilabytes of

(41:46):
data to review social media, which is some big Brother stuff,
which is the nineteen eighty four stuff. But now I'll
leave it out to you.

Speaker 10 (41:54):
But that's the point self discipline. You know, you you
are not talking to yourself when you get on social
media everything that you do. I mean Musk and the
guys as they went in there with Doge, they have
everybody's everybody. They have everybody, let me say it again,

(42:14):
everybody's personal information. The only thing that protects some of
us is the fact that there's so much information that
they really have more of an issue contacting it or
accessing it. But it isn't because they don't have access
to it. And so we've got the AI who has
the ability to go through it under certain programming instructions

(42:40):
and look for things. So we've got a choice. Now
we've got a choice of being angry, and we are angry.
We have a right to be angry, but how do
you respond with that anger? You know, you have a choice.
When they market cigarettes to you, do you take them
or not? You have a choice when they market sex

(43:00):
to you, do you do you treat women bad because
they the market says it's okay.

Speaker 8 (43:05):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (43:06):
They market anti social aspects to us all the time.
Now we are being assaulted again with I hear I
hear them say as we look at sharing resources, Oh,
I don't want socialism. People shouldn't get things free.

Speaker 8 (43:24):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (43:25):
They need to learn how to work hard. Ah, except
when it's terms of just as you described with AI.
Oh here, let me give you something to say, you
don't have to work so hard. Let me help you
dumb down. There's no problem with people getting dumber as
far as they're concerned, but there is a problem with
people begetting smarter.

Speaker 8 (43:45):
Now.

Speaker 10 (43:45):
One of the things that that's very obvious to me,
and I'm sure it's obvious to you, is this racism
that's taking place under the guise of immigration reform. It's
it's racism because we are not seeing Europeans being picked
up and sent back to wherever they came from. It's

(44:08):
all about South America and the Caribbean and Africa. They
just made it okay to send back five hundred thousand Haitians.
And I mean, if you're going to tell me that
the little nation of Haiti is stabilized, and it's okay
to send people back there. I just wonder what you're
smoking or shooting up your arm, because that's that's obvious.

(44:32):
Their willingness to tell this lie guys, this racist rant
disguised as some type of conservative movement is problematic. And
the other aspect of that problem is our consumer attitude
about accepting it. This fake black and brown issue between

(44:56):
us that the government is a to formulate and maintain
is ridiculous. We've got to be able to throw that away,
just like we say throw cigarettes away. There's no rationale
for black and brown and people of color to be
so easily split up, you know, except that it's this

(45:17):
marketing that says, you know, there's something special about you.
Now these other guys that look like you. Yeah, I
don't know, there's something special about you, and we can
bring you in. Clarence Thomas, I mean, come on now,
we can bring you in as long as you're willing
to leave those other guys at home. I remember parties
when I was in high school. You know, Wallace, you know,

(45:39):
come on to the party, but don't bring Joe and
your other friends, you know, because they, you know, they
get kind of loud. Well, you know who my first
load to stop the car to pick up was Joe
and my friends so we could get loud. But the
fact is that I was fortunate enough to recognize as

(46:00):
a child that there was some folks out there who
wanted to separate me from my friends and the folks
that looked like me and acted like me, because my
mother and father had put that belt on my butt
enough to keep me in a position right to be
disciplined and know how to act and have deference for

(46:21):
what was going on. And this is what I want
to speak to now as we look at this attack
on immigration, on brown and black and yellow people, the
response that the government wants is the one that the
Vice mayor gave. Let's call out our gangs. Let's let's

(46:43):
let's fight these guys, fist to fist, let's draw bricks
and rocks.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
We walked right into it, walked.

Speaker 10 (46:51):
It, walks right into it. They become they become provocateurs.
And this is exactly what I mean. This is why
with the imagery that Fox News has helped a foster
that La being a city on fire and a city
of in in riot to justify to help justify Trump's

(47:12):
move to.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Bring the we we walked into it.

Speaker 10 (47:15):
Yeah, yeah, so we have to I'm.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Gonna I'm gonna say one thing. One is about what
you said about about the discipline, Like, we need to
realize that AI has made our Facebook postings, our faithing
has written down totally accessible and to be used and
mechanized and politicize against us, and that remind us. You know,

(47:41):
one thing that I will say, I don't like anything
about this Trump regime and nothing. The one thing that
I do like is that they showed us the true
cutters of suspicion that every civil rights activist, lawyer, whatever,
maybe has always thought, we always knew this government was racist.
Now they're just telling us to our faith. Now they're

(48:02):
just saying, hey, not only are racist, but this is
our full platform. And that's why we have to use
our own self discipline and control of how we respond.
Because they want us to start egging them on with violence.
They want us to start saying things on Facebook and
TikTok without fully deliberating on it before that, and we
as community leaders and activists have a responsibility to make

(48:25):
sure that if we respond, we got to do so
well because these youth, these younger kids, they don't know
any better. I mean, I'll tell you right now. You know,
if this would have been the you know, twenty five
years ago, probably out there jumping out of it and
god knows, doing a lot of things. Maybe we got
busted or something. Because you know, there's a lot of emotions,
a lot of things that are going on out there,

(48:46):
and that's why as community leaders, we need to make
sure we come from unity, we have a plan. The
problem is, however, is that our local elected officials and
our statewide officials, all they do is they talk and
they don't have a plan, and we're just kind of
hoping for the time to go by and by that
science all that's going on and people getting picked up

(49:07):
and deported because they know that this strategic plan to
deport people is not just about deporting people. No, I
don't want to say the word deport, because this requires
due process. I'm talking about kidnapping and taking people.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
Abroad, disappearing people.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Plan that's being used and prepared so that it's first
being used on the asylum seeker that a young man
and woman from Africa from Kadi, from South Africa, I
mean South America, Central America. And then, as they showed
us already I just told you earlier, this FBI, this
DOJ is already circulating and analyzing these data. What's next?

(49:43):
First times of immigrants then comes to political dissidence. That's
why every one of us should be really concerned about
what's to come next.

Speaker 10 (49:51):
I think the concern is there that the solutions are
not obvious for most of us because every time we
maybe get on a lane thinking about a solution, another
issue comes up. And that's the shotgun effect or the
effects of the shotgun policy issues that Trump is attacking
on an ongoing basis. I have to say that I

(50:15):
know many people who are not racist, but I also
know human nature, and as long as things are going
in a way that tends to favor you individually, it's
you know, maybe it ain't that bad. It takes a
lot of compassion to be able to understand that when
they're doing something to your neighbor, that's setting it up

(50:35):
to be done to you. And that's where we tend
to fail. That's where we tend to let human nature
take its course. We need to step outside of human
nature and be special. We need to make a special
attempt to understand that who really benefits When black and
brown and yellow people are arguing the policy that we're

(50:59):
operating under are bad, the people who are affecting those
policies think they're just following rules. I'll have to say
that most of the people that are that are white,
they didn't they they didn't set up the world the
way it is, but they do benefit from the way
it is to a certain extent. I don't want to

(51:21):
I don't want to say that all white people are
most white people are.

Speaker 8 (51:26):
No.

Speaker 10 (51:26):
I'm looking at that little third of people who constantly
stick with Trump, and it's not always the same ones,
but he's got a third of folks who constantly stick
with him because he has figured out as a con
man how to dangle the little sparky thing in front
of him that they need or that they want. As
far as these congressmen and senators are concerned, I don't know.

(51:49):
I think he must have some Diddy pictures on most
of them that he's able to remind them that you
are at my little freak out and I'm going to
tell the world and I'm gonna do as we do,
some type of primary against you. But to get to
the solution, and there is some solution. The solution is

(52:10):
to look at what is one of the biggest things
that they are trying to do, and that's keep people
of color at each other's throats, confused and in chaos
about their economy, about their living conditions, about their possibilities.
One of the things that they all quickly respect when

(52:31):
we demonstrate us control over it is our money. When
we economically unite and decide to spend our money, what's
a certain person or a certain business, or to deny
a certain business our money, we catch people's attention. We
have that possibility. One of the issues to me is
where do we deposit our money? Where do we put it?

(52:53):
But where do we stockpile our money? I know that
if we look at the African American community, we're talking
about three nine three to four trillion dollars a year.
We add to brack the Brown community into that, I'm
sure we get into five six trillion dollars a year.
That if we were to centralize that at some point
through our credit union, through a bank, through some system

(53:15):
that says we are together in a coalition, an economic coalition,
I think we'ld start being more together in a cultural basis.
But certainly this concept of it's either capitalism or socialism,
they've got a snooker on that. The government provides socialism

(53:37):
to big companies all the time. But when we talk
about providing social responsible attitudes toward healthcare and social security
and housing, education, not socialism. No, that's building. That's what
you do with your money after you've been successful as
a capitalist. Our nation needs a capital to get started.

(54:01):
But once we're flowing, we what do we do with
that money? We stack it up in Bill Gates's pocket,
we stack it up in Muts's pocket, or do we
put it back in the streets so that our society
gets to benefit from it, so that our people are
able to have a reason to appreciate AI. Because AI
can do everything except be a consumer, and our economy

(54:24):
depends on us consuming and consuming things. That if we
decide to consume things that are good for us, not
just for our physical being, but for our economic well
being and our emotional wellbeing, I think we can make
some changes here.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Respond to that, I agree, Wallis, And I'm gonna tell
you one thing that I think you know. It's not
a serio sum game. Here, you know, like, well, you know,
if you support healthcare that you're a socialist, and we
support a bank here at Capitalists. It's more complex than that.
I do believe the things that unite us are far

(55:06):
more than the things that divide us. And at the
end of the day, people want to have a decent life,
a decent place to live, healthcare, decent wages, and to
live right and let people live. But unfortunately the problem
is that we don't have a collective kind of you know,
community movement. Right, We're so dispersed, he said, to talk
about the shotgun effort. I mean, that's part of his

(55:28):
strategy is do one thing here. You know, they just
accused Trump of being on the Epstein files, right, remember
that with his own little best buddy telling him, and
all of a sudden, you know, they do the raids
and then the race take over the news, and then
this guy over here is you know, is bombing Palestine
and bombing Iran, and then he's over here likes it's like.

Speaker 10 (55:49):
This distracted, Yeah, chasing us out of our lane. And
our lane once again is how do we get together
to protect ourselves and our families for the future. And
one of the things is. I think it's important to
realize that what we do with our money is very
critical and if we are able to create this black

(56:11):
and brown coalition or extend it, because I certainly know
that it already exists in some places, we need to
be able to extend that and not be ashamed of it.
We need to be proud of it, and we need
to make noise about it, and we need to facilitate it.
And I'm saying we need a credit union. I think
we need a credit union, a place that we can

(56:31):
deposit our money, a place that we can use that
money to build our communities, build our businesses, and have
a focus in the middle of this hurricane of hate
that is going on. And this hurricane of hate has
always been here, It's always been here, and there there's
always been a lodge of love that we could retreat to.

(56:52):
And so we need to build that lodge of love
and open up the doors and bring more people in.
There is a way to do it. And I think
if we focus on our way of controlling our money,
controlling our our our response to evil, uh the way
that that Keenan controlled his response to tobacco, and the

(57:16):
way that we have done things in the past to
get rid of bad habits and move toward good habits.
That we've got to chat at this, you know, Hugo.
I think I think, you know, if if we put
our heads together and work toward, you know, one thought
as we think about everything else, that being a credit union,

(57:37):
I think we can make some change. I think we
can definitely make some change. So I'm asking that you participate.
I'm willing to participate.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I've got some people.

Speaker 10 (57:46):
I've got some people that have been working on this.
Uh our churches, man, every Monday morning, you think about
the Hispanic churches and the Black churches and where do
they put their money every Monday morning? Now, just imagine
if we only deposited our money on Monday in a
bank or credit union that was sensitive to our community needs.

(58:09):
My goodness, I mean, if we it take us about
six months to get a good credit union going, actually
probably less than that if we went in and co
opted one that exists, and we could do that very
easily by having a million people going sign up, and
we could take over one very easily by getting our
people to sign up. But we have to have that

(58:30):
attitude first, and it's going to come from people like you,
people like me who are not tired, but we are
tired of some of the policies that are attacking our future,
some of the things that are making America weaker, that
are making the world a place of turmoil and pain

(58:51):
as opposed to a place of love and where aspirations.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
And respect and respect such a respect don't even I
don't need my bank to love me. I need my bank.

Speaker 8 (59:03):
And so that's.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Why I thought, I don't shop at Target. Target doesn't
respect me. And because you don't respect me, you don't
get my daughter.

Speaker 10 (59:12):
There you go, I.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Want to play. You set up the meeting I want,
and I'll set up the catering, and you know what,
I'll be the first one.

Speaker 8 (59:20):
God bless you. You go.

Speaker 10 (59:21):
I appreciate you very much. God bless you. Thank you
for joining us today. We appreciate you at that coffee
table and uh even next week on to bring some coffee.

Speaker 8 (59:31):
Eric.

Speaker 10 (59:32):
Things are good with you. We appreciate your son and
uh Anthony man.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
You know, Grandpa used to say, do your best and
God will do the rest.

Speaker 10 (59:41):
Do your best and the God do the rest. We'll
work with that. See you guys next week. Under two circumstances,
one if the Good Lord's willing to, if the creek
don't riots. God bless you.

Speaker 8 (59:50):
Thank you very much, Rose Again, k c A.

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