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KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 13 Jul, 2025
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That includes the people that are going the wrong way
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back on Wallace Halling here on the case for truth
justice with the right information to help improve the situation.
I am anxious to talk to you guys today. I'm
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telling you I have been waiting for three four days
because of a conversation I had about three or four
days ago with one of my respected friends. You know,
he's not a Laker fan, but that doesn't matter. I
still respect him and love him. He's also not a
fan necessarily of straight ahead logic, but I still love him.
He's a friend of mine.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
He said.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
As I was discussing the immigration issues, the over abundance
of ice that's spilling our glass over, and he says,
but they're illegal and they're taking our jobs. I said, wait, wait,
wait a minute, what are you talking about it? He says,
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these people are illegal, they're supposed to get arrested and
deported because they don't belong here. I said, but wait,
wait a minute, and are we just talking about criminals
and and and people who are really raising hell and
doing antisocial things. He says, everybody that's not here legally.
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That's if they're undocumented. They're not supposed to be here
and they're and they should be deported. And I said, wait,
wait a minute, what about the people who've been here
fifteen twenty years, and you know, there's they're they're contributing
to society, they're working, they're paying tax, and sometimes they're
paying Social Security and something they'll never get back, but
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they're contributing it. And they've the law knows they're here.
They've been here, they haven't been running away. So why
what makes today so different from yesterday? Except for the
fact that we had somebody say that they were illegal
and they should get out of here, and then we're
gonna turn the police and ice on them and start
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deporting them to Alcatraz, Alligator Alcatraz and San Salvador and
the Sudan and all of the He says, well, he's legal,
he's a president, he can do all of that. And
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa cousin. Wait a minute. Everything
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legal isn't right, and everything illegal isn't wrong. And there's
a big difference between law.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And rules.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
God is in charge of the law. When you go
jump off a cliff, the law says you're gonna come down.
You jump out of an airplane, the law says you
are coming down, and there's nothing you can do to
change it. You can put on a parachute and come
down slower, but you're gonna come down. Laws are things
that we can depend on to happen, whether we are
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being observed or not. You can give me a law
that says, in the middle is shit stop at a
red light.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I don't know if you ever rode a motorcycle, but
if you ever have ever owned a motorcycle and ridden
a motorcycle, and you pull up in the middle of
the night to a stop sign and there's no traffic
coming from any direction, you're gonna run that light because
it doesn't make sense. And the thing that makes you
know it doesn't make sense is you're on a motorcycle.
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There's nothing around you. You're free, and you're able to
make a decision on your own that says, if I
cross this street, it's not gonna negatively harm anybody. It's
not gonna cause any negative effects. This is a rule
that I'm willing to break.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If it were a law that means when you decided
to go across that street, God would strike you with lightning,
or something would happen, some kind of boards would come
up that would block you from coming, or you would
immediately get snatched.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Up by some drone that would take you to jail.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Because there's a law, and all of the things is
necessary to maintain that law, whether there's people there to
observe you or not, or whether you're going to harm
someone or not. Just like jumping out of an airplane,
that's science, that's a law. But we on the planet
are here together.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
We make rules. Are U l e s Rules?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Matter of fact? You know they call a guy the ruler.
You know, we've got a guy who, instead of wanting
to be president, wants to be the ruler, and he
wants to make up new rules and make you.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Follow them right away. Well, rulers are.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Not folks who depend on thinkers. Rulers, as a matter
of fact, to maintain their positions sometimes want to be
sure there are no thinkers around, just responders. Do what
I told you to do. We've had daddies and mommy's
shoes fall into the realm of Hi. It's too hard
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to worry about this kid. Trying to get this kid
to think logically because sometimes the rules I said, he'll
realize they're just rules.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So you ask dad, well why dad? Why mom?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Why uncle?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Because I said so, Well, that's not a law, that's
a rule. And we see many people who understand that
and look at you like you're crazy when you tell
them they're illegal.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
They don't belong here.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
That the law says, no, we have to operate with compassion,
we have to operate with understanding. We have to operate
with the fact that we're here to make life better
for ourselves. And I believe that it shouldn't take you
long to realize that if you are using your life
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to make your life better for yourself by making it
miserable for other people, something's going to happen. The word
revolution comes up from somewhere. It comes up from people
who've decided that the ruler is out of line and
the rules don't make sense. I'll tell you one thing
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that most of us would agree about in terms of
something that was extremely I mean an extreme legal condition
that lasted for years. It built America. It was an
institution of slavery, totally legal, totally legal. Oh, if you
were if you were a black person during the realm
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of slavery, any white person could tell you what to
do and cause havoc in your life immediately if he
decided to. A matter of fact, that was one of
the things that allowed poor white people to support super
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rich white people, because though the poor white people didn't
have the riches of the super white, super rich white
they were at least not black, and they could prove
that they had some superiority somewhere, some authority by mistreating
a black person. Well that was years Wait a minute,
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wait a minute. I started to say that was years ago.
But here's that the ruler would like to bring those
days back again. Let's make America great again. Let's let's.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
White supremacy is a rule that only lasts as long
as the folks decide to let it last, and it
doesn't last very long. People we are in America, I
think all of us as we grew up, you know, Marrica, Maica.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
A shining light for people all over the planet. And
we used to be so so proud of the fact
that we were the one place on the planet that
no matter where you were raised, no matter where you
came from, you wanted to be in America because America
is fair and square. America is New Testament Christianity. Forgiveness.
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Let's go forward, let's forgive. Let's not forget, but let's forgive.
I mean Native Americans, they've been forced to forgive. Praise
the Lord. They'll never forget, but they forgiven. How do
I know, because I don't see Native Americans running around
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causing revolution every day, blowing up buildings. I mean, I
do not see them doing the kind of things that
I see going on in Europe where people are upset
because they've lost some territory or someone is threatening their
ability to maintain their high lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
So I say, they've forgiven. There's much to be forgiven,
there's much to be dealt with.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
But America is the place that it takes place. Except
now we've got people who are saying things like that.
I'm talking about a black man, my brother, and my
black man says to me, they need to be deporting
these people. What do you mean they need to because
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it's legal. I mean, is there something that these people
have really done that makes them worthy or real subjects
to go to be in Alligator Alcatraz, living in little cages,
not even living, just existing, And sometimes sometimes it may
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be a real criminal. But we've got laws about how
criminals should be treated, and what if this person is
an actual American citizen who has done nothing wrong except
in the eyes of someone else, have too much of
a tan. We are losing our war as we attempt
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to win a battle of acquiescence. To someone that is
extremely charming, no doubt, one of the best con men
on the planet.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Ever, and.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Making kool aid that apparently tastes really good. I don't know,
because I'm not drinking a kool aid, and I would
advise you not to drink it because it really makes
you act funny. It makes people start thinking that. Well,
I say, I'm saying using the word thinking, but that's
not what they're doing. They're rationalizing. They are accepting the
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misinformation from a person that they've seen lie over and
over and over and over and over and over again,
documented that he's lying. Documented because it's even in his
book where he talks about the great way to make
a deal. If you tell a lie, keep telling a
lie over and over and over, and people will start
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to believe it.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
No, that's not true. That'll never happen, but it does.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
You've got people who actually actually think this man is
the law and order person. January sixth, twenty twenty, he
led a revolution, he led a war against the United States.
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The next day, two days later he said, well, that's
not true. But the next day everybody who saw it
acknowledged that this was this was wrong, and he did
it every Republican that was anywhere around the White House
in the Congress, that they that had to run for
their life. They knew what happened. They knew that that
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was not just some little group of people on a
site seeing tour. So this man on the first day,
first day of being the president. Again, that's all of
these people free people who beat up on police, cause
policemen to go commit suicide because of the I can't
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understand suicide enough to explain.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Why, but we saw all of that. We see all
of that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So, folks, my theme again is that there's a big
difference between the law and the rules, and that's because.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
We are.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Seeing the ruler come up with crazy rules. I want
you to understand that I understand that everybody's not following
those silly rules. Everybody is not out here trying to
take away the good aspects of what America is and
what it's supposed to be and what it will be.
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It will be what it's supposed to be because we're
not going to put it. Ain't no stopping us now
on this side.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
We are going to go forward. I say all of
that to say that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I'm blessed here in the city of San Bernardino, to
have constantly examples of the right thing taking place in
the wrong place, in the right place, in the right time,
good things going on despite what may be suggested as
what you should be doing if you.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Want to follow the rules of the unruly ruler. Part
of what we want to do.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Today is as you are forced to look at the
terrible examples.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Of police work taking place with our people following orders.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You know, I don't want you to hate the ice officers.
You know you can't hate them because they are following
the rule of law that says, you know, you have
to follow and do what the person who is your
superior and who tells you what to do. Now, we'd
be in terrible shape if Christmas Addics had done what
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he was supposed to to do as far as England
was concerned. We'd be in terrible position if George Washington
and Thomas Jefferson and all of those guys that followed
the rules that England had set forth.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
But they didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And I advise that all of us who really want
things done correctly won't do it that way. So we're
blessed today to have with us, mister Joe Paulino He
is the chief of police for the San Bernardino City
Unified School District.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
He is.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
A gentleman, would great taste. I love his shoes.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I like to hear he's a great guy. Joe, how
are you today? Wonderful?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's good to be good. Come into that Mica a
little bit closer. I power right, Joe. You've how long
have you been the chief of police here at San
Bernardine Unified School District extra wall? This is the year
fifteen fifteen ys a chief fifteen years? How many riots
have you had to deal with with your students' body
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during that time?
Speaker 14 (25:31):
You don't know if i'd call it riots. However, has
been some challenges, some definite challenges with our students. However
we've survived them.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Over the years. Very good.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You've probably had challenges from the school board as well.
Speaker 14 (25:46):
Though, well you know, all of us said have our
own challenges and our leadership style.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
But you've dealt with your challenges in a very respectful way.
When I say respectful, it seems that you have powers
obviously that you have not used in terms of being
able to just go out and overwhelm the overwhelm people.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Your officers.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Seem to be respectful of their duty and respectful of
the people that they have to deal with in their duty.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Had any positive or negative experience or direct experience with
any of your officers, but I note that we had
a video go viral in I don't know the last
month or two April, but it was something like that.
There was an incident at Entrepreneurial High School. The gentleman
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who I was instrumental in providing with this first press path,
mister Tyrone Johnson, had just picked up his lunch at
the Food for Less and had parked his car over
by Entrepreneurial High School and was about to start eating,
and he noticed there was a little fracts going on,
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and he turned on his camera. His camera demonstrated that Eric,
we have that video. This is radio, so a lot
of you people will not be able to see this
until you go to the podcast and see the live stream.
We want to kind of describe what we see here,
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because when I first saw it, I kept waiting for
one of the officers to pull out their gun and
start shooting. And I say that because I'm a parent,
I'm a citizen, and what I saw going on with
these kids, the students at grade school, students whose are
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high school students. These are people big enough to pose
a threat. Excuse my language, but these are some badass kids.
They were just acting out of line. As far as me,
a parent, a citizen, a resident, was concerned, and I'm wondering,
what are they doing, why.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Are they.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Excuse me, let's roll the tape and let's kind of
you help me describe that.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't have the greatest lives in the world, but
I'm seeing is it on now?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Is that thing on? Is it rolling?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
One of the things that we're gonna see is that
we've got two police officers who are trying to separate
and deal with someone. I think it looks like they're
trying to put some cuffs on somebody who had been fighting.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
There was a fight.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Tyrone said, there was a fight going on, and he
by the time he turned his take on, the police
had gotten there and we're separating the people, and they
were not They were not surrounding them or rounding them up,
you know, putting them in a car to take them
off somewhere. They seemed to be trying to de escalate
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the situation and they were so effective I think in
demonstrating that they are trying to be helpful, that it
gave life to the students. I think we'll see a
point here where we'll see a young lady walk over
to where the policeman is and knee him in the side.
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We go further into the video and we'll see where
one of the people actually grabbed and pushed the officer
and grabbed one of the officers by the hair. There
was some support coming from city police, I think, toward
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the in there, and I don't know what happened to
these students, but when I looked at the video, the
thing that I was overly impressed with was the restraint
that your officers showed. It was as though they were
dealing with their kids. It was though they were dealing
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with kids in the way they would want someone else
to deal with their kids. I'm sure that there are
other police departments and circumstance situations that look at this
and use it as a video to say, this is
why we want to handcuff them right away and all that,
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because your officers were really could have been in danger
had that been another level of situation there. What is
your response to how your officers responded. I applauded. I
think they did the great job that could have been
done under those circumstances. And I still say that those
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were some bad acting youngsters and they need to be disciplined,
but they don't need to be shot. They don't need
to be strung up, upside down and beaten, you know,
until they confess every sin that they've ever done. And
you know, so let me ask you, you know your
response to this, and what do you expect out of
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your offices in this kind of sense? Yeah, definitely, Wallerston.
Speaker 14 (31:29):
Of course, you know, every school year we have an
opportunity for situations to escalate theirs. However, this is a
rare situation the police officers encountered, especially us. I often
say that we have over forty five thousand opportunities every
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day you have to encounter situations like this, and then
you double that with the number of parents that we
deal with.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
So, of course, then I think the men and women.
Speaker 14 (32:04):
Of our police department and do a work and and
support the educating kids.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
So we come from that perspective, and of.
Speaker 14 (32:12):
Course them as as a leader as a chief. My
guidance principle in terms of leadership is Desmond's work, where
Desmond says, my humanity is bound it in yours, so
we can only be humane together. So my edicts to
young police officers and police officers that work for our
department is that regardless of what a person does, and
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we're gonna treat them humanely. And of course it starts
off with the way we recruit young police officers or
police officers in our department. We're looking for good people now,
people that can be patient with our kids, they can
demonstrate good leadership, that are disciplined, people that can supervise themselves,
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and of course them those is highly trained. You don't
respond a dying situation like that without being highly trained
to be able to what they say. The more informed
you are, the more better you are at doing your work.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (33:10):
So whilst I tell you and the men and women
that responded here, they did what I believe exceptional work,
which is an example for police force across our nation. Now,
some stuff that we could get better at, right in
terms of we should make sure a person's handcuffed and
handcuff properly right so they don't slip their cuffs. But
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then in terms of example of how we should treat
our community, especially the least of us in terms of
our kids. It's demonstrating this video. And of course then
every day we do work in supported educational processes, excellent work,
but every so often, you know, these situations in them
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gets broken in them. Of course, we don't control that variable,
and every day we respond to stuff and we don't
know what we're responding to. However, our applaud the men
and women of the department. When they respond they do
their best, and because they do their best, they arrive
at this place called success right, that leadership, So of
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course them a part of them my thrust, along with
my command my command team, is to make sure that
we were leading the way, that we hold ourselves responsible.
It's like a man that don't use profanity. I believe
it's no need for profanity. So when you look at
this video, if you are able to hear in the
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audio to it, you don't hear profanity. Okay, So that's
what we want from our police officer when we encountered them.
So of course then we make sure that we have
good people doing this work, that we follow the policy.
You know earlier he was mentioned in the rule I
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think our Board of Education has done a wonderful job
of giving us the parameters to be able to do
this work.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
We don't just.
Speaker 14 (35:08):
Arrest incite people. We give them an opportunity to make
sure that they do it right. However, well, will not
always not cite or rest whenever you have to go
out your way to be cite and arrested by us.
Of course, I'll give you some numbers, Okay, Over those
fifteen years, yeah, we've We've reduced citations and rest by
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over eighty five percent across the board.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
And those are serious numbers. However, five percent.
Speaker 14 (35:42):
I I can remind you a couple of years back
where I came in and we had a conversation about
a study done by the Center for Public Integrity in
regards to a number of arrests and citations that we
was given in our system. Of course, collectively as a
team man, we saw those numbers and all of us
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was disturbed by it and were like, what can.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
We do better?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Well, getting cited and arrested by school police has a
permanent mark, does it not?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Well? Are definitely okay? So when we are not.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I guess super sensitive and I think it takes some
super sensitivity. Not just being sensitive, because sensitive leaves a
lot of room for my feelings to be hurt, but
super sensitive says that I'm going to be sensitive to
my commitment to my job and understanding that I'm dealing with,
in the case of these students, a lifetime of reputation
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that's going to be responding to how I respond to
what they're doing now as children. One of the things
that we have been very concerned about with our kids
is how black and brown children It seemed we're getting
more referrals to situations or from situations that actually put
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a mark on their record to the point of where
some of them have just didn't make sense to go
back to school anymore. They actually got to a point where, well,
this one, this occurrence is the one that's gonna send
you to the juvenile or this occurrence is the one
that's gonna cause you to be suspended, and this number
of suspensions is gonna cause you to have to go
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to a special school or gonna put some type of
barrier to your excitement about education and school system.
Speaker 14 (37:48):
Yes, so I'll say this, and this is my twenty
nine year in the school district, and a large amount
of years I've been on the cabinet. We we have
a cabinet then, of course you you're familiar with them,
mariche Ariano. Yes, our current superintendent now, so we have
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assistant superintendents um across the board. They're say, I'm conscious
about what you're saying. So of course that even those
numbers are are reduction because of the accountability y and
that we have on the system to make sure that
we're paying attention to those it's.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Affected by that.
Speaker 14 (38:27):
And of course back to this sm a resting citation
piece and your police officer every year go through a
slough of training, and one of them is the escalation
et cetera. Right, And of course then one of them
is this customer service piece and how do we service
the community and where the community and when they see
us and they're happy to see us cause they know
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the end result is that they will be dealt with appropriately. Right,
It's not what's done, it's how it's done. And it's
the same thing what's said. Now, if I'm gonna say something,
I should said appropriately, yeah, professionally, right, properly, respectfully.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
So of course them again, and we believe that.
Speaker 14 (39:05):
All our students, their parents, the entire community and regardless
of who they are or where they're at, has value.
So of course we treat them with the value and
that we and of course there a man like me
said of the Golden rules, right, I was reading this morning,
and of course in Matthew talks about the Golden rule
that that I want for you, I should want for myself.
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And so if I like myself, then most likely I
would like you. So we make sure we hold our
team conscious and to the Golden rule and where we
treat people appropriately. Right, And then this is piece them
whilst that I believe law enforcement across the Bold can
learn from. Especially the educational platform is where we're all educators.
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So we should put forward an effort to make sure
that all our youths, our parents are students. Whenever we
get the opportunity, we educate them and what they say.
The more informed we are and the better we are
as a community. So I as a chief, I make
sure that I have inform men and women that works
around me. Probably about eighty five percent of my folks
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have degrees because it makes some critical thinkers. Yes, not
that they're smarter and they can think, Yeah, I I
love what one of my coach and mentors says, which
is Dean Chris.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Dean says, Joe, we need to teach people how to think.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
So when it gets dynamic like that, we want people thinking,
not reacting, and we want them responding through their thinking
and through the skills knowledge of building experience that we've
given them.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
What kind of training exercises do you take them to
achieve that attitude?
Speaker 14 (40:49):
Yes, so, of course them every quarter and we send
them the sheriff Department. Of course, the Sheriff Department and
allows them to go through things like tactical communication, right,
and where we learn how to respond appropriately. You may
use a profanity, but it doesn't give me the right
to respond with a profanity. So of course training allows
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me to be able to pull from information to be
able to respond appropriately, like sir, thank you. However, we
don't need to have a conversation like that, right, okay, Yeah,
And of course I see that you're upset. However, you
take a deep bread and just say and do your
best to listen to what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Right, we don't use words like shut up. Okay.
Speaker 14 (41:33):
Right, we're armed and with the with the massive amount
of data that allows for us to be able to
speak to people appropriately and get the response. And we're
so listening from them because we guide them to that response.
We guide them to the response the way we treat them.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
So you're opening a door for me that says someone
possibly who is work for you may find themselves working
for someone else in the future that doesn't want them
to think logically, that wants them to simply respond and
follow orders. And that should create some kind of quandary
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for that officer who has been trained to understand humility, humanity,
and compassion, who is now being put in a position
to say, ignore all of that and just do what
I said do. And I have no room in my
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heart for people who want to fight the police, fight
the Feds. I've been involved in the movement of sorts
throughout my life, and I was blessed to find early
on that though we may gain, they're in peace to
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try to affect our message that there's going to be
possibly someone who sneaks into our being who has a
totally different attitude and they want to use our peaceful
profile to render their hostile, terroristic attitudes and actions. We
(43:24):
call them agent provocateurs and those folks are around, and
to me, the danger there is twofold. The immediate direct
response that you can cause by throwing a rock, you
can actually hurt somebody who I want to talk about
(43:45):
technology in a minute. There, you could actually hurt somebody,
or you could cause people around you to get hurt
as a result of the response that you cause.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
It's important that.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
People be able to protest, to be able to express
themselves and to let it be known that they don't
like something that's taking place. But I think it's also
important that we as a people think logically enough to
and you know, not to grab you into this political
(44:24):
position statement heary, but I believe that we have a
president who is very concerned about his own body going
to jail because if he had not got elected in
twenty twenty, there's a good chance, or good in twenty
twenty four, it's a good chance he trying to be
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in jail because it was moving slow in that direction,
and I think the concept of you know, basic quite
supremacy was the one that allowed him to move so slow,
because I had no doubt that if Obama had been
the president on January Worries sixth, the past president on
January sixth, twenty twenty, that they would have arrested him
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that date, that January seventh, eighth, he would have been
in jail or under charges or under house arrest. But
because it was Donald the mouth, charismatic, blond, blue eyed
promise of great things for white people again. And I'm
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you know, folks, let me say this. If you're an
African American in America, African American, chances are you got
an aunt or an uncle who passing for white, or
you got white blood, and you don't. I don't hate
white people. If I hated white people, I'd have to
hate people in my family.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
And I'm not going that far.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
But I can recognize race differences without being race cyst
And if you don't believe that there's a movement for
white supremacy, you're not looking at the history of America.
And that's why some people don't want you to look
at the history of America. I think that our president
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wants confusion and chaos. I think our president wants to
have a big response to the FEDS that would make
everybody sympathetic to the fact that there is a riot.
As a matter of fact, he's called what's taken place
in Los Angeles in response to Ice as a riot.
He's done everything he's could to make people feel that
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California is under a total revolution and we need to
have the Feds come out and keep people safe.
Speaker 14 (46:43):
Wallas is going to comment on your quandary that you
gave a person and that you believe should address something. Yeah,
I believe we have to give ourselves permission and to
be able to be correct.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Well, yeah, yeah, said to them.
Speaker 14 (47:02):
Oftentimes a man will compromise one's value, but they won't
compromise their principles. That's why I love them studying pillars
of history like Nelson Desmond and Mahagama Gandhi and these
are men of principles. So it's like, regardless of what
the consequences is, I will speak up, especially for those
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that are being ostracized, suffering, et cetera, et cetera. And
so of course, then for us, we have to educate
our community. Yes, yeah, on things like that. Y'all get
what's going on across the nation. However, it's up to
us to hold the lot to make sure that we
don't compromise our principles and start treating people the way
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the city.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Don't want to be treated that's right.
Speaker 14 (47:49):
Yes, So it's important that we hold a lot in
terms of our principles, right.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah, we still have to make a living extra et cetera.
Speaker 14 (47:58):
However, we don't have to do it in a way
where I abuse you as a human being, or some
other human being abused me because they believe they have
authority or power.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Right, that's the point of our adherence to our religion
and our spiritual lessons forgiveness. And if there was nothing
to forgive people for it, that would be different. But
we are confronted on a daily basis with the opportunity
to either forgive or fester. We allow these things to
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fester in our hearts and our being, and we will
turn into that thing that we find that's oppressing us,
or we will continue to have faith, move forward and
understand that challenges our opportunities to demonstrate our strength and
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our principle.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
And that's.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Like my father was a brick layer, and it was
it would be easy to just drop that brick on
the martar and keep on going, but I noticed he
always wanted the brick to be straight so to fit
the line of the last one, and made it easy
to know where to put the next one and move
the cement out of the way so that it looked
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clean and clear. And that was his principle. He wanted
to be able to come back to the job next year,
point to it with pride and say I did that.
And I know that part because he would take me
around and show me houses that he built and say,
look at that. Just look at that brickway. Now look
at that brickwork across the street. So you see what
I'm saying, and look at what we did, and look
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at what they did.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
And so it's.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Important to understand that good things will last, bad things
will be remembered, but they don't have to last, and
they don't have to live in our hearts. Joe, your
your training method for your officer, the idea that they
remember that they're not just peace officers of that sense,
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but they are educators. I commend you, and I wanted
to do it loud and clear here on the radio
because what you're doing and how you do it is
exemplatory for everybody that's in your business and everybody that
wants to look at your business and say, everybody over
there is no you guys, said you said a wonderful
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mark for others to follow. And Mauricio and everyone involved
with Sam Bernardino Unified School City Samberandino City Unified School
District should be extremely proud of the vision that you
have and the accomplishment that they appear to be part
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of with what you're doing.
Speaker 14 (50:53):
So whilst I I want to thank you for having
me here this morning, half men and women that's down
the line to make sure that kids get educated across
our community, we thank you yeah for at Lisa I'm
calling our voice and to be able to tell our
story that it's not told by somebody else. And of
course I like to thank the community for always having
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goods hospitality for men and women as well. Every so
often I'll show up at the station there's uh, you know,
cop foods there, Yeah, donuts as well as pastries.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
You get your quota of peach cobblers and banana puddings
and say.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
Well, we can't afford that. The people that are here that.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Could say thank you all right, Uh, what can do
community do is there's some specific things they can do
to show support for what you are doing and would
also be supportive of our children in our school district.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
Yes, so, of course. And the first thing in the
community can do.
Speaker 14 (51:56):
If you believe that you have an issue that we
can help resolve, don't be afraid to call us.
Speaker 11 (52:03):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (52:04):
And then when you see the men and women of
the police department arrive, and don't be afraid to smile. Yeah,
you know, say I'm a smilest contagious Yes.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Right.
Speaker 14 (52:14):
And then of course, in terms of my philosophy, trust me,
they'll smile first. Yeah, they'll smile first, of course. And
we want the community to welcome our work because we
do our best to do it the right way.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
How do you recruit? Do you have enough police officers?
Speaker 5 (52:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Are you recruiting? What's the How can a person become
part of that great team that you have a simple?
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 14 (52:42):
We got young young men and women in our local
college and Caring twelve units, and we have a cadet program.
If you at the high school, we have a traditional
Explore program that you.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Could be a part of.
Speaker 14 (52:55):
If you're the middle school, we have our junior Explore program,
and elementary school we have our auxiliary and Explore program.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
So we have the stairway and that we've created. While
it's in the police.
Speaker 14 (53:08):
So we we probably recruit more of our community's kids
on our police department as well as our camp security
Corps to make sure that they know that they could
be a part of our.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Team Campus security Corps, Yeah, exactly, and our camp security
officer that works if the district falls under the police
department as well. When I was coming up, we had
patrol what are called patrol patrol boy.
Speaker 4 (53:35):
Something like that, where you know where we actually got
quite a police officer.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
Well, you know, we were we were students, I mean
in grade school, and we helped at the corners. You know,
we had a little built and you know that that
we wore to identify ourselves. We were quite proud to
be that. And even at that point, you know, there
was other kids who were you know, who kind of
wanted to look at you, look at you funny. But
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then too once we put the belt on, you know,
we we had a different kind of attitude of responsibility,
and you know, we let people talk to us a
little crazy sometimes, and you know, I'll see you when
I take this belt off. Maybe you know it took place,
It took place a little bit, But no, I was
just wondering if if we had that type of movement,
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and how early in the.
Speaker 15 (54:25):
School if we have community members that would like to
be a part of our team, and we have community
service as well, where community members like yourself will issue
your uniform, swear you in and have you come help
us at events across football games, basketball games right right
out with the police officers.
Speaker 14 (54:47):
Yes, my opportunities to help. And then it's other areas
across the district in terms of volunteer systems and to
volunteer on the campus and to be able to make
sure that our students are safe.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Well, I wouldn't be myself if I let you get
away without me trying to tell you how to run
your life a little bit. And during the summer and
seeing I'd wait till last minute. During the summer, we
never have enough activities for the kids. I would suggest
that we maybe have a camp, a security camp where
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we taught to kids more rules about dealing with each
other and dealing with the police and the school police,
and maybe get some businesses to help pay for that.
But to give your officers an opportunity to be exposed
at another level to the young people during the summer,
because the kids definitely need it, And I don't know
if maybe you guys need the extra hours or not,
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but I think being around responsible people is an important
thing and asset for our kids. And I just suggested, Mauricio,
you guys need to put some money together so that
we can have a summer camp for our young people
to understand the principles of safety and getting along with
their police and the responsibility of not making them have
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to work so hard.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Definitely, okay, I don't see why we couldn't do that.
Speaker 5 (56:12):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (56:13):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
The reason you couldn't do that generally is because of money,
and so we would need to be able to fund that.
And if the schools are able to help take the
kids off the street and make them better citizens, I
suggest that businesses like mine, even like mine that are
not making money, should be able to make some level
of support into a program like that. Because the better
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citizens we create, the better lifestyle that all of us
will be able to enjoy. And I think that's part
of giving. And if you expect to get, you want
to give what you get.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
Oh definitely, So.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
How we're doing over there, young man, with our time
very good. So I've got time to say this. Everybody
ends up wearing his own ces. The shadow is only
where the body goes. Everybody pays not necessarily a tax.
It's more like dues, because the price that's something your
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actions choose. So I say, remember, whenever you make one,
you make two, one for him and one for you.
So be sure that whatever you make, whatever you make,
is it more than you want to take, because sure enough,
through the arc down the line, you're bound to get
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what you thought was mine. Give love and understanding, is
what I say, and I'll make life a little easier
as things come your way. So God bless us all.
I appreciate the time that you spend doing what you
do every day. Joe, I appreciate the time that you.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
I don't know if you get to relax, if you
get to hang out at home. I know that you
spend good time time at church and doing that level
of service. So God bless you and good luck.
Speaker 4 (58:06):
With all of that. Yes, sday, I got a couch
that likes me. You do have a couch that likes you?
Very good? All right, I hope all of us have that. Anthony.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
I appreciate your brother that you're doing doing a great
job and I do appreciate the challenges out there that
give us the opportunity to show the strength that the
Lord gives us every day. Thank you guys, fore you
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If the creek don't rise, God bless you. Thank you
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That includes the people that are going the wrong way
as well as the people that are going the right way,
you know, stopping us. Now listen, this is Empire Talks
back on Wallace Halling here on the case for truth
justice with the right information to help improve the situation.
I am anxious to talk to you guys today. I'm
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telling you I have been waiting for three four days
because of a conversation I had about three or four
days ago with one of my respected friends. You know,
he's not a Laker fan, but that doesn't matter. I
still respect him and love him. He's also not a
fan necessarily of straight ahead logic, but I still love him.
He's a friend of mine.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
He said.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
As I was discussing the immigration issues, the over abundance
of ice that's spilling our glass over, and he says,
but they're illegal and they're taking our jobs. I said, wait, wait,
wait a minute, what are you talking about it? He says,
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these people are illegal, they're supposed to get arrested and
deported because they don't belong here. I said, but wait,
wait a minute, and are we just talking about criminals
and and and people who are really raising hell and
doing antisocial things. He says, everybody that's not here legally.
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That's if they're undocumented. They're not supposed to be here
and they're and they should be deported. And I said, wait,
wait a minute, what about the people who've been here
fifteen twenty years, and you know, there's they're they're contributing
to society, they're working, they're paying tax, and sometimes they're
paying Social Security and something they'll never get back, but
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they're contributing it. And they've the law knows they're here.
They've been here, they haven't been running away. So why
what makes today so different from yesterday? Except for the
fact that we had somebody say that they were illegal
and they should get out of here, and then we're
gonna turn the police and ice on them and start
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deporting them to Alcatraz, Alligator Alcatraz and San Salvador and
the Sudan and all of the He says, well, he's legal,
he's a president, he can do all of that. And
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa cousin. Wait a minute. Everything
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legal isn't right, and everything illegal isn't wrong. And there's
a big difference between law.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And rules.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
God is in charge of the law. When you go
jump off a cliff, the law says you're gonna come down.
You jump out of an airplane, the law says you
are coming down, and there's nothing you can do to
change it. You can put on a parachute and come
down slower, but you're gonna come down. Laws are things
that we can depend on to happen, whether we are
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being observed or not. You can give me a law
that says, in the middle is shit stop at a
red light.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I don't know if you ever rode a motorcycle, but
if you ever have ever owned a motorcycle and ridden
a motorcycle, and you pull up in the middle of
the night to a stop sign and there's no traffic
coming from any direction, you're gonna run that light because
it doesn't make sense. And the thing that makes you
know it doesn't make sense is you're on a motorcycle.
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There's nothing around you. You're free, and you're able to
make a decision on your own that says, if I
cross this street, it's not gonna negatively harm anybody. It's
not gonna cause any negative effects. This is a rule
that I'm willing to break.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If it were a law that means when you decided
to go across that street, God would strike you with lightning,
or something would happen, some kind of boards would come
up that would block you from coming, or you would
immediately get snatched.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Up by some drone that would take you to jail.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Because there's a law, and all of the things is
necessary to maintain that law, whether there's people there to
observe you or not, or whether you're going to harm
someone or not. Just like jumping out of an airplane,
that's science, that's a law. But we on the planet
are here together.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
We make rules. Are U l e s Rules?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Matter of fact? You know they call a guy the ruler.
You know, we've got a guy who, instead of wanting
to be president, wants to be the ruler, and he
wants to make up new rules and make you.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Follow them right away. Well, rulers are.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Not folks who depend on thinkers. Rulers, as a matter
of fact, to maintain their positions sometimes want to be
sure there are no thinkers around, just responders. Do what
I told you to do. We've had daddies and mommy's
shoes fall into the realm of Hi. It's too hard
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to worry about this kid. Trying to get this kid
to think logically because sometimes the rules I said, he'll
realize they're just rules.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So you ask dad, well why dad? Why mom?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Why uncle?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Because I said so, Well, that's not a law, that's
a rule. And we see many people who understand that
and look at you like you're crazy when you tell
them they're illegal.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
They don't belong here.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
That the law says, no, we have to operate with compassion,
we have to operate with understanding. We have to operate
with the fact that we're here to make life better
for ourselves. And I believe that it shouldn't take you
long to realize that if you are using your life
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to make your life better for yourself by making it
miserable for other people, something's going to happen. The word
revolution comes up from somewhere. It comes up from people
who've decided that the ruler is out of line and
the rules don't make sense. I'll tell you one thing
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that most of us would agree about in terms of
something that was extremely I mean an extreme legal condition
that lasted for years. It built America. It was an
institution of slavery, totally legal, totally legal. Oh, if you
were if you were a black person during the realm
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of slavery, any white person could tell you what to
do and cause havoc in your life immediately if he
decided to. A matter of fact, that was one of
the things that allowed poor white people to support super
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rich white people, because though the poor white people didn't
have the riches of the super white, super rich white
they were at least not black, and they could prove
that they had some superiority somewhere, some authority by mistreating
a black person. Well that was years Wait a minute,
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wait a minute. I started to say that was years ago.
But here's that the ruler would like to bring those
days back again. Let's make America great again. Let's let's.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
White supremacy is a rule that only lasts as long
as the folks decide to let it last, and it
doesn't last very long. People we are in America, I
think all of us as we grew up, you know, Marrica, Maica.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
A shining light for people all over the planet. And
we used to be so so proud of the fact
that we were the one place on the planet that
no matter where you were raised, no matter where you
came from, you wanted to be in America because America
is fair and square. America is New Testament Christianity. Forgiveness.
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Let's go forward, let's forgive. Let's not forget, but let's forgive.
I mean Native Americans, they've been forced to forgive. Praise
the Lord. They'll never forget, but they forgiven. How do
I know, because I don't see Native Americans running around
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causing revolution every day, blowing up buildings. I mean, I
do not see them doing the kind of things that
I see going on in Europe where people are upset
because they've lost some territory or someone is threatening their
ability to maintain their high lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
So I say, they've forgiven. There's much to be forgiven,
there's much to be dealt with.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
But America is the place that it takes place. Except
now we've got people who are saying things like that.
I'm talking about a black man, my brother, and my
black man says to me, they need to be deporting
these people. What do you mean they need to because
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it's legal. I mean, is there something that these people
have really done that makes them worthy or real subjects
to go to be in Alligator Alcatraz, living in little cages,
not even living, just existing, And sometimes sometimes it may
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be a real criminal. But we've got laws about how
criminals should be treated, and what if this person is
an actual American citizen who has done nothing wrong except
in the eyes of someone else, have too much of
a tan. We are losing our war as we attempt
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to win a battle of acquiescence. To someone that is
extremely charming, no doubt, one of the best con men
on the planet.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Ever, and.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Making kool aid that apparently tastes really good. I don't know,
because I'm not drinking a kool aid, and I would
advise you not to drink it because it really makes
you act funny. It makes people start thinking that. Well,
I say, I'm saying using the word thinking, but that's
not what they're doing. They're rationalizing. They are accepting the
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misinformation from a person that they've seen lie over and
over and over and over and over and over again,
documented that he's lying. Documented because it's even in his
book where he talks about the great way to make
a deal. If you tell a lie, keep telling a
lie over and over and over, and people will start
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to believe it.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
No, that's not true. That'll never happen, but it does.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
You've got people who actually actually think this man is
the law and order person. January sixth, twenty twenty, he
led a revolution, he led a war against the United States.
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The next day, two days later he said, well, that's
not true. But the next day everybody who saw it
acknowledged that this was this was wrong, and he did
it every Republican that was anywhere around the White House
in the Congress, that they that had to run for
their life. They knew what happened. They knew that that
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was not just some little group of people on a
site seeing tour. So this man on the first day,
first day of being the president. Again, that's all of
these people free people who beat up on police, cause
policemen to go commit suicide because of the I can't
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understand suicide enough to explain.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Why, but we saw all of that. We see all
of that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So, folks, my theme again is that there's a big
difference between the law and the rules, and that's because.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
We are.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Seeing the ruler come up with crazy rules. I want
you to understand that I understand that everybody's not following
those silly rules. Everybody is not out here trying to
take away the good aspects of what America is and
what it's supposed to be and what it will be.
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It will be what it's supposed to be because we're
not going to put it. Ain't no stopping us now
on this side.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
We are going to go forward. I say all of
that to say that.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I'm blessed here in the city of San Bernardino, to
have constantly examples of the right thing taking place in
the wrong place, in the right place, in the right time,
good things going on despite what may be suggested as
what you should be doing if you.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Want to follow the rules of the unruly ruler. Part
of what we want to do.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Today is as you are forced to look at the
terrible examples.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Of police work taking place with our people following orders.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You know, I don't want you to hate the ice officers.
You know you can't hate them because they are following
the rule of law that says, you know, you have
to follow and do what the person who is your
superior and who tells you what to do. Now, we'd
be in terrible shape if Christmas Addics had done what
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he was supposed to to do as far as England
was concerned. We'd be in terrible position if George Washington
and Thomas Jefferson and all of those guys that followed
the rules that England had set forth.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
But they didn't.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
And I advise that all of us who really want
things done correctly won't do it that way. So we're
blessed today to have with us, mister Joe Paulino He
is the chief of police for the San Bernardino City
Unified School District.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
He is.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
A gentleman, would great taste. I love his shoes.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I like to hear he's a great guy. Joe, how
are you today? Wonderful?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's good to be good. Come into that Mica a
little bit closer. I power right, Joe. You've how long
have you been the chief of police here at San
Bernardine Unified School District extra wall? This is the year
fifteen fifteen ys a chief fifteen years? How many riots
have you had to deal with with your students' body
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during that time?
Speaker 14 (25:31):
You don't know if i'd call it riots. However, has
been some challenges, some definite challenges with our students. However
we've survived them.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Over the years. Very good.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You've probably had challenges from the school board as well.
Speaker 14 (25:46):
Though, well you know, all of us said have our
own challenges and our leadership style.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
But you've dealt with your challenges in a very respectful way.
When I say respectful, it seems that you have powers
obviously that you have not used in terms of being
able to just go out and overwhelm the overwhelm people.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Your officers.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Seem to be respectful of their duty and respectful of
the people that they have to deal with in their duty.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Had any positive or negative experience or direct experience with
any of your officers, but I note that we had
a video go viral in I don't know the last
month or two April, but it was something like that.
There was an incident at Entrepreneurial High School. The gentleman
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who I was instrumental in providing with this first press path,
mister Tyrone Johnson, had just picked up his lunch at
the Food for Less and had parked his car over
by Entrepreneurial High School and was about to start eating,
and he noticed there was a little fracts going on,
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and he turned on his camera. His camera demonstrated that Eric,
we have that video. This is radio, so a lot
of you people will not be able to see this
until you go to the podcast and see the live stream.
We want to kind of describe what we see here,
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because when I first saw it, I kept waiting for
one of the officers to pull out their gun and
start shooting. And I say that because I'm a parent,
I'm a citizen, and what I saw going on with
these kids, the students at grade school, students whose are
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high school students. These are people big enough to pose
a threat. Excuse my language, but these are some badass kids.
They were just acting out of line. As far as me,
a parent, a citizen, a resident, was concerned, and I'm wondering,
what are they doing, why.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Are they.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Excuse me, let's roll the tape and let's kind of
you help me describe that.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't have the greatest lives in the world, but
I'm seeing is it on now?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Is that thing on? Is it rolling?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
One of the things that we're gonna see is that
we've got two police officers who are trying to separate
and deal with someone. I think it looks like they're
trying to put some cuffs on somebody who had been fighting.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
There was a fight.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Tyrone said, there was a fight going on, and he
by the time he turned his take on, the police
had gotten there and we're separating the people, and they
were not They were not surrounding them or rounding them up,
you know, putting them in a car to take them
off somewhere. They seemed to be trying to de escalate
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the situation and they were so effective I think in
demonstrating that they are trying to be helpful, that it
gave life to the students. I think we'll see a
point here where we'll see a young lady walk over
to where the policeman is and knee him in the side.
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We go further into the video and we'll see where
one of the people actually grabbed and pushed the officer
and grabbed one of the officers by the hair. There
was some support coming from city police, I think, toward
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the in there, and I don't know what happened to
these students, but when I looked at the video, the
thing that I was overly impressed with was the restraint
that your officers showed. It was as though they were
dealing with their kids. It was though they were dealing
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with kids in the way they would want someone else
to deal with their kids. I'm sure that there are
other police departments and circumstance situations that look at this
and use it as a video to say, this is
why we want to handcuff them right away and all that,
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because your officers were really could have been in danger
had that been another level of situation there. What is
your response to how your officers responded. I applauded. I
think they did the great job that could have been
done under those circumstances. And I still say that those
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were some bad acting youngsters and they need to be disciplined,
but they don't need to be shot. They don't need
to be strung up, upside down and beaten, you know,
until they confess every sin that they've ever done. And
you know, so let me ask you, you know your
response to this, and what do you expect out of
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your offices in this kind of sense? Yeah, definitely, Wallerston.
Speaker 14 (31:29):
Of course, you know, every school year we have an
opportunity for situations to escalate theirs. However, this is a
rare situation the police officers encountered, especially us. I often
say that we have over forty five thousand opportunities every
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day you have to encounter situations like this, and then
you double that with the number of parents that we
deal with.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
So, of course, then I think the men and women.
Speaker 14 (32:04):
Of our police department and do a work and and
support the educating kids.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
So we come from that perspective, and of.
Speaker 14 (32:12):
Course them as as a leader as a chief. My
guidance principle in terms of leadership is Desmond's work, where
Desmond says, my humanity is bound it in yours, so
we can only be humane together. So my edicts to
young police officers and police officers that work for our
department is that regardless of what a person does, and
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we're gonna treat them humanely. And of course it starts
off with the way we recruit young police officers or
police officers in our department. We're looking for good people now,
people that can be patient with our kids, they can
demonstrate good leadership, that are disciplined, people that can supervise themselves,
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and of course them those is highly trained. You don't
respond a dying situation like that without being highly trained
to be able to what they say. The more informed
you are, the more better you are at doing your work.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (33:10):
So whilst I tell you and the men and women
that responded here, they did what I believe exceptional work,
which is an example for police force across our nation. Now,
some stuff that we could get better at, right in
terms of we should make sure a person's handcuffed and
handcuff properly right so they don't slip their cuffs. But
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then in terms of example of how we should treat
our community, especially the least of us in terms of
our kids. It's demonstrating this video. And of course then
every day we do work in supported educational processes, excellent work,
but every so often, you know, these situations in them
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gets broken in them. Of course, we don't control that variable,
and every day we respond to stuff and we don't
know what we're responding to. However, our applaud the men
and women of the department. When they respond they do
their best, and because they do their best, they arrive
at this place called success right, that leadership, So of
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course them a part of them my thrust, along with
my command my command team, is to make sure that
we were leading the way, that we hold ourselves responsible.
It's like a man that don't use profanity. I believe
it's no need for profanity. So when you look at
this video, if you are able to hear in the
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audio to it, you don't hear profanity. Okay, So that's
what we want from our police officer when we encountered them.
So of course then we make sure that we have
good people doing this work, that we follow the policy.
You know earlier he was mentioned in the rule I
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think our Board of Education has done a wonderful job
of giving us the parameters to be able to do
this work.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
We don't just.
Speaker 14 (35:08):
Arrest incite people. We give them an opportunity to make
sure that they do it right. However, well, will not
always not cite or rest whenever you have to go
out your way to be cite and arrested by us.
Of course, I'll give you some numbers, Okay, Over those
fifteen years, yeah, we've We've reduced citations and rest by
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over eighty five percent across the board.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
And those are serious numbers. However, five percent.
Speaker 14 (35:42):
I I can remind you a couple of years back
where I came in and we had a conversation about
a study done by the Center for Public Integrity in
regards to a number of arrests and citations that we
was given in our system. Of course, collectively as a
team man, we saw those numbers and all of us
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was disturbed by it and were like, what can.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
We do better?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Well, getting cited and arrested by school police has a
permanent mark, does it not?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Well? Are definitely okay? So when we are not.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I guess super sensitive and I think it takes some
super sensitivity. Not just being sensitive, because sensitive leaves a
lot of room for my feelings to be hurt, but
super sensitive says that I'm going to be sensitive to
my commitment to my job and understanding that I'm dealing with,
in the case of these students, a lifetime of reputation
(36:51):
that's going to be responding to how I respond to
what they're doing now as children. One of the things
that we have been very concerned about with our kids
is how black and brown children It seemed we're getting
more referrals to situations or from situations that actually put
(37:16):
a mark on their record to the point of where
some of them have just didn't make sense to go
back to school anymore. They actually got to a point where, well,
this one, this occurrence is the one that's gonna send
you to the juvenile or this occurrence is the one
that's gonna cause you to be suspended, and this number
of suspensions is gonna cause you to have to go
(37:37):
to a special school or gonna put some type of
barrier to your excitement about education and school system.
Speaker 14 (37:48):
Yes, so I'll say this, and this is my twenty
nine year in the school district, and a large amount
of years I've been on the cabinet. We we have
a cabinet then, of course you you're familiar with them,
mariche Ariano. Yes, our current superintendent now, so we have
(38:08):
assistant superintendents um across the board. They're say, I'm conscious
about what you're saying. So of course that even those
numbers are are reduction because of the accountability y and
that we have on the system to make sure that
we're paying attention to those it's.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Affected by that.
Speaker 14 (38:27):
And of course back to this sm a resting citation
piece and your police officer every year go through a
slough of training, and one of them is the escalation
et cetera. Right, And of course then one of them
is this customer service piece and how do we service
the community and where the community and when they see
us and they're happy to see us cause they know
(38:49):
the end result is that they will be dealt with appropriately. Right,
It's not what's done, it's how it's done. And it's
the same thing what's said. Now, if I'm gonna say something,
I should said appropriately, yeah, professionally, right, properly, respectfully.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
So of course them again, and we believe that.
Speaker 14 (39:05):
All our students, their parents, the entire community and regardless
of who they are or where they're at, has value.
So of course we treat them with the value and
that we and of course there a man like me
said of the Golden rules, right, I was reading this morning,
and of course in Matthew talks about the Golden rule
that that I want for you, I should want for myself.
(39:27):
And so if I like myself, then most likely I
would like you. So we make sure we hold our
team conscious and to the Golden rule and where we
treat people appropriately. Right, And then this is piece them
whilst that I believe law enforcement across the Bold can
learn from. Especially the educational platform is where we're all educators.
(39:52):
So we should put forward an effort to make sure
that all our youths, our parents are students. Whenever we
get the opportunity, we educate them and what they say.
The more informed we are and the better we are
as a community. So I as a chief, I make
sure that I have inform men and women that works
around me. Probably about eighty five percent of my folks
(40:15):
have degrees because it makes some critical thinkers. Yes, not
that they're smarter and they can think, Yeah, I I
love what one of my coach and mentors says, which
is Dean Chris.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Dean says, Joe, we need to teach people how to think.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
So when it gets dynamic like that, we want people thinking,
not reacting, and we want them responding through their thinking
and through the skills knowledge of building experience that we've
given them.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
What kind of training exercises do you take them to
achieve that attitude?
Speaker 14 (40:49):
Yes, so, of course them every quarter and we send
them the sheriff Department. Of course, the Sheriff Department and
allows them to go through things like tactical communication, right,
and where we learn how to respond appropriately. You may
use a profanity, but it doesn't give me the right
to respond with a profanity. So of course training allows
(41:12):
me to be able to pull from information to be
able to respond appropriately, like sir, thank you. However, we
don't need to have a conversation like that, right, okay, Yeah,
And of course I see that you're upset. However, you
take a deep bread and just say and do your
best to listen to what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Right, we don't use words like shut up. Okay.
Speaker 14 (41:33):
Right, we're armed and with the with the massive amount
of data that allows for us to be able to
speak to people appropriately and get the response. And we're
so listening from them because we guide them to that response.
We guide them to the response the way we treat them.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
So you're opening a door for me that says someone
possibly who is work for you may find themselves working
for someone else in the future that doesn't want them
to think logically, that wants them to simply respond and
follow orders. And that should create some kind of quandary
(42:15):
for that officer who has been trained to understand humility, humanity,
and compassion, who is now being put in a position
to say, ignore all of that and just do what
I said do. And I have no room in my
(42:41):
heart for people who want to fight the police, fight
the Feds. I've been involved in the movement of sorts
throughout my life, and I was blessed to find early
on that though we may gain, they're in peace to
(43:02):
try to affect our message that there's going to be
possibly someone who sneaks into our being who has a
totally different attitude and they want to use our peaceful
profile to render their hostile, terroristic attitudes and actions. We
(43:24):
call them agent provocateurs and those folks are around, and
to me, the danger there is twofold. The immediate direct
response that you can cause by throwing a rock, you
can actually hurt somebody who I want to talk about
(43:45):
technology in a minute. There, you could actually hurt somebody,
or you could cause people around you to get hurt
as a result of the response that you cause.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
It's important that.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
People be able to protest, to be able to express
themselves and to let it be known that they don't
like something that's taking place. But I think it's also
important that we as a people think logically enough to
and you know, not to grab you into this political
(44:24):
position statement heary, but I believe that we have a
president who is very concerned about his own body going
to jail because if he had not got elected in
twenty twenty, there's a good chance, or good in twenty
twenty four, it's a good chance he trying to be
(44:45):
in jail because it was moving slow in that direction,
and I think the concept of you know, basic quite
supremacy was the one that allowed him to move so slow,
because I had no doubt that if Obama had been
the president on January Worries sixth, the past president on
January sixth, twenty twenty, that they would have arrested him
(45:07):
that date, that January seventh, eighth, he would have been
in jail or under charges or under house arrest. But
because it was Donald the mouth, charismatic, blond, blue eyed
promise of great things for white people again. And I'm
(45:29):
you know, folks, let me say this. If you're an
African American in America, African American, chances are you got
an aunt or an uncle who passing for white, or
you got white blood, and you don't. I don't hate
white people. If I hated white people, I'd have to
hate people in my family.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
And I'm not going that far.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
But I can recognize race differences without being race cyst
And if you don't believe that there's a movement for
white supremacy, you're not looking at the history of America.
And that's why some people don't want you to look
at the history of America. I think that our president
(46:09):
wants confusion and chaos. I think our president wants to
have a big response to the FEDS that would make
everybody sympathetic to the fact that there is a riot.
As a matter of fact, he's called what's taken place
in Los Angeles in response to Ice as a riot.
He's done everything he's could to make people feel that
(46:32):
California is under a total revolution and we need to
have the Feds come out and keep people safe.
Speaker 14 (46:43):
Wallas is going to comment on your quandary that you
gave a person and that you believe should address something. Yeah,
I believe we have to give ourselves permission and to
be able to be correct.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Well, yeah, yeah, said to them.
Speaker 14 (47:02):
Oftentimes a man will compromise one's value, but they won't
compromise their principles. That's why I love them studying pillars
of history like Nelson Desmond and Mahagama Gandhi and these
are men of principles. So it's like, regardless of what
the consequences is, I will speak up, especially for those
(47:26):
that are being ostracized, suffering, et cetera, et cetera. And
so of course, then for us, we have to educate
our community. Yes, yeah, on things like that. Y'all get
what's going on across the nation. However, it's up to
us to hold the lot to make sure that we
don't compromise our principles and start treating people the way
(47:47):
the city.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
Don't want to be treated that's right.
Speaker 14 (47:49):
Yes, So it's important that we hold a lot in
terms of our principles, right.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah, we still have to make a living extra et cetera.
Speaker 14 (47:58):
However, we don't have to do it in a way
where I abuse you as a human being, or some
other human being abused me because they believe they have
authority or power.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Right, that's the point of our adherence to our religion
and our spiritual lessons forgiveness. And if there was nothing
to forgive people for it, that would be different. But
we are confronted on a daily basis with the opportunity
to either forgive or fester. We allow these things to
(48:32):
fester in our hearts and our being, and we will
turn into that thing that we find that's oppressing us,
or we will continue to have faith, move forward and
understand that challenges our opportunities to demonstrate our strength and
(48:53):
our principle.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
And that's.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Like my father was a brick layer, and it was
it would be easy to just drop that brick on
the martar and keep on going, but I noticed he
always wanted the brick to be straight so to fit
the line of the last one, and made it easy
to know where to put the next one and move
the cement out of the way so that it looked
(49:18):
clean and clear. And that was his principle. He wanted
to be able to come back to the job next year,
point to it with pride and say I did that.
And I know that part because he would take me
around and show me houses that he built and say,
look at that. Just look at that brickway. Now look
at that brickwork across the street. So you see what
I'm saying, and look at what we did, and look
(49:40):
at what they did.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
And so it's.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Important to understand that good things will last, bad things
will be remembered, but they don't have to last, and
they don't have to live in our hearts. Joe, your
your training method for your officer, the idea that they
remember that they're not just peace officers of that sense,
(50:07):
but they are educators. I commend you, and I wanted
to do it loud and clear here on the radio
because what you're doing and how you do it is
exemplatory for everybody that's in your business and everybody that
wants to look at your business and say, everybody over
there is no you guys, said you said a wonderful
(50:29):
mark for others to follow. And Mauricio and everyone involved
with Sam Bernardino Unified School City Samberandino City Unified School
District should be extremely proud of the vision that you
have and the accomplishment that they appear to be part
(50:51):
of with what you're doing.
Speaker 14 (50:53):
So whilst I I want to thank you for having
me here this morning, half men and women that's down
the line to make sure that kids get educated across
our community, we thank you yeah for at Lisa I'm
calling our voice and to be able to tell our
story that it's not told by somebody else. And of
course I like to thank the community for always having
(51:15):
goods hospitality for men and women as well. Every so
often I'll show up at the station there's uh, you know,
cop foods there, Yeah, donuts as well as pastries.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
You get your quota of peach cobblers and banana puddings
and say.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
Well, we can't afford that. The people that are here that.
Speaker 3 (51:39):
Could say thank you all right, Uh, what can do
community do is there's some specific things they can do
to show support for what you are doing and would
also be supportive of our children in our school district.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
Yes, so, of course. And the first thing in the
community can do.
Speaker 14 (51:56):
If you believe that you have an issue that we
can help resolve, don't be afraid to call us.
Speaker 11 (52:03):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (52:04):
And then when you see the men and women of
the police department arrive, and don't be afraid to smile. Yeah,
you know, say I'm a smilest contagious Yes.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Right.
Speaker 14 (52:14):
And then of course, in terms of my philosophy, trust me,
they'll smile first. Yeah, they'll smile first, of course. And
we want the community to welcome our work because we
do our best to do it the right way.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
How do you recruit? Do you have enough police officers?
Speaker 5 (52:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Are you recruiting? What's the How can a person become
part of that great team that you have a simple?
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 14 (52:42):
We got young young men and women in our local
college and Caring twelve units, and we have a cadet program.
If you at the high school, we have a traditional
Explore program that you.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Could be a part of.
Speaker 14 (52:55):
If you're the middle school, we have our junior Explore program,
and elementary school we have our auxiliary and Explore program.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
So we have the stairway and that we've created. While
it's in the police.
Speaker 14 (53:08):
So we we probably recruit more of our community's kids
on our police department as well as our camp security
Corps to make sure that they know that they could
be a part of our.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Team Campus security Corps, Yeah, exactly, and our camp security
officer that works if the district falls under the police
department as well. When I was coming up, we had
patrol what are called patrol patrol boy.
Speaker 4 (53:35):
Something like that, where you know where we actually got
quite a police officer.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
Well, you know, we were we were students, I mean
in grade school, and we helped at the corners. You know,
we had a little built and you know that that
we wore to identify ourselves. We were quite proud to
be that. And even at that point, you know, there
was other kids who were you know, who kind of
wanted to look at you, look at you funny. But
(54:00):
then too once we put the belt on, you know,
we we had a different kind of attitude of responsibility,
and you know, we let people talk to us a
little crazy sometimes, and you know, I'll see you when
I take this belt off. Maybe you know it took place,
It took place a little bit, But no, I was
just wondering if if we had that type of movement,
(54:23):
and how early in the.
Speaker 15 (54:25):
School if we have community members that would like to
be a part of our team, and we have community
service as well, where community members like yourself will issue
your uniform, swear you in and have you come help
us at events across football games, basketball games right right
out with the police officers.
Speaker 14 (54:47):
Yes, my opportunities to help. And then it's other areas
across the district in terms of volunteer systems and to
volunteer on the campus and to be able to make
sure that our students are safe.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Well, I wouldn't be myself if I let you get
away without me trying to tell you how to run
your life a little bit. And during the summer and
seeing I'd wait till last minute. During the summer, we
never have enough activities for the kids. I would suggest
that we maybe have a camp, a security camp where
(55:21):
we taught to kids more rules about dealing with each
other and dealing with the police and the school police,
and maybe get some businesses to help pay for that.
But to give your officers an opportunity to be exposed
at another level to the young people during the summer,
because the kids definitely need it, And I don't know
if maybe you guys need the extra hours or not,
(55:44):
but I think being around responsible people is an important
thing and asset for our kids. And I just suggested, Mauricio,
you guys need to put some money together so that
we can have a summer camp for our young people
to understand the principles of safety and getting along with
their police and the responsibility of not making them have
(56:07):
to work so hard.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Definitely, okay, I don't see why we couldn't do that.
Speaker 5 (56:12):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (56:13):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
The reason you couldn't do that generally is because of money,
and so we would need to be able to fund that.
And if the schools are able to help take the
kids off the street and make them better citizens, I
suggest that businesses like mine, even like mine that are
not making money, should be able to make some level
of support into a program like that. Because the better
(56:38):
citizens we create, the better lifestyle that all of us
will be able to enjoy. And I think that's part
of giving. And if you expect to get, you want
to give what you get.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
Oh definitely, So.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
How we're doing over there, young man, with our time
very good. So I've got time to say this. Everybody
ends up wearing his own ces. The shadow is only
where the body goes. Everybody pays not necessarily a tax.
It's more like dues, because the price that's something your
(57:13):
actions choose. So I say, remember, whenever you make one,
you make two, one for him and one for you.
So be sure that whatever you make, whatever you make,
is it more than you want to take, because sure enough,
through the arc down the line, you're bound to get
(57:36):
what you thought was mine. Give love and understanding, is
what I say, and I'll make life a little easier
as things come your way. So God bless us all.
I appreciate the time that you spend doing what you
do every day. Joe, I appreciate the time that you.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
I don't know if you get to relax, if you
get to hang out at home. I know that you
spend good time time at church and doing that level
of service. So God bless you and good luck.
Speaker 4 (58:06):
With all of that. Yes, sday, I got a couch
that likes me. You do have a couch that likes you?
Very good? All right, I hope all of us have that. Anthony.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
I appreciate your brother that you're doing doing a great
job and I do appreciate the challenges out there that
give us the opportunity to show the strength that the
Lord gives us every day. Thank you guys, fore you
next week under two circumstances, one if the Good Lord's willing, two.
Speaker 4 (58:32):
If the creek don't rise, God bless you. Thank you
for your time. Can't wait till next week. I have
a great message for you then from Chicago too.
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