KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen (Sun, 21 Sep, 2025)

KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 21 Sep, 2025

Episode Transcript

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President Trump is on his way to Arizona for Charlie
Kirk's memorial service. Large crowds have already gathered at State
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Who he loved, Charlie Kirk.

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He made such a big impact on the entire world,
but on my heart.

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And estimated one hundred thousand mourners are expected to attend.
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it'll be due to Republican lawmakers. Schumer said his colleagues
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There has been no negotiation with the Republicans. There always
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Approved the measure earlier in the day. The government now
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Speaker 11 (08:47):
Caseyaa, All right now, all right that man mood master.

Speaker 10 (09:29):
This is Empara talks back on Wallance Allen here on
the case for truth justice with the right information to
help improve the situation. Oh my goodness, Sunday morning, church time.
Realize who you are. Make that promise. I went to
college with a young man his. I'm gonna give his initials,

(09:52):
ts his his. His final statement and beginning statement all
the time was my my intentions are good. And as
I mellow and moved further and further into the realm
of a good life. I realize that that is critical
our intentions. What are our intentions? Well, one of the

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things I need to do is is salute those folks
who wrote this constitution that we're living by. They are amazing.
What they wrote, what they sat down, who they listened to,
who they were inspired by, was magical, mystical, heavenly. Their
aspirations were amazing. And we're going to talk about that

(10:40):
a little bit. But right now I want to remind
you that Empire Talks Back is brought to you by
West Side Story Newspaper and the improvements of association we
can all improve. We have a couple of guests today.
One of them is mister rich Wallace. He's the president
of the Southern California Black Chain of Commerce. We also

(11:02):
have mister Brian Keith Walker. He's a comedian event producer.
And you here to my right, mister Anthony Garcia is
the moodmaster. He is my backbone. He is the one
I lean on to keep me in the right mood
and the right attitude because he does talk too much,
but he's got a tremendous right in and left hand

(11:25):
and that he works on that bass guitar. Anthony, how
are you doing this morning? Hello? Hello, he doesn't have
a microphone for a reason. But that's okay. I'd like
to remind everybody COVID nineteen is hanging around. It's not

(11:48):
something to play with. But let me say this about FEMA.
FEMA has a COVID nineteen funeral assistance program. If you've
lost a loved one due to COVID nineteen, FEMA has
a funeral assistance program that you can sign up for
that will last until the end of September. September thirtieth

(12:12):
will be the last day that you can sign up
for that program to help alleviate the pain and cost
of the funeral of your loved one. I recommend that
you take advantage of it. That number is eight eight
eight I'm sorry. That number is eight four four six
eight four six three three three. Again, that number eight

(12:33):
four four six eight four six three three three, And
that number is available to you Monday through Friday from
nine am to nine pm Eastern time. So that means
you need to get up at six o'clock in the
morning and call before six o'clock in the evening. Here
on the West Coast, folks, the amazing people who wrote

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our great Constitution just described great goals, aspirations for our future,
for the future of a nation that they knew was
not perfect. But they were looking down the line and
you and me and figuring that, well, give me time,
like my great friend tes. Their intentions were good. They

(13:20):
spoke of all men being created equal, while at the
same time justifying slavery by declaring their fellow human beings
three quarters of a man based simply on the color
of their skin. I'm a little sensitive to that because
I say their skin, but that's the color of my skin.

(13:40):
It's non white. If you wasn't white, you wasn't right.
If you didn't have no money, didn't own no land,
you couldn't vote. They didn't care about women or black
folk are Indians that cared about basically white men at
that time. But they wrote a constitution with aspirations that said,
one day we'll all be free. If you set foot

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on this property here in the United States that we're
calling the United States of America, we will treat you
with all of the rights of freedom they wrote to bill.
Rights started off with freedom of speech. You can say
what you want to say. Matter of fact, a lot
of people start off their sentences by saying, well, you

(14:27):
can say what you want to say. But and that
describes one of those freedoms that we have as individuals
here in the United States as we go forward, that
aspiration for total freedom is a state of policy. That's
the lane that we're driving in. But everybody in that lane,

(14:48):
in that little car that they rolled in, I can
say what they want to say while they're in that lane.
Every individual can talk crazy about me Wallas Allen, you
know that boy. They can say what they want to say.
They can say hate speech. They can talk about my
mama or whatever. If they talk about my mama, that
want to be quiet about it, But I mean they

(15:11):
have the right because if I beat him up for
talking about it about my mama. Just said, well, Wallace,
why'd you're talking about my mom? He said, Wallace, you
can't get in him like that. You have to learn
how to talk about his mama if you're going to
deal with that. But you can't be beating people up
because they talk about your mama. I understand, Anthony, now
with you. I believe that there's some words that can

(15:33):
get you so excited you forget who you are and
you just want to fight, but they don't let that
happen either. They ain't no such thing as fighting words,
nothing like that. This is based on the law. We
got laws. We have a policy that says how we
are going to perform. That policy is the nation, the goals,

(15:54):
the aspirations. We can have people be racist if they
want to, but that's it's not the policy. It shouldn't be.
Our countries promise to pursue freedom, equality, equal protection under
the law for all. Individuals have the freedom to want

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freedom for some, but not all. But the policy of
the nation is obligated to follow the hard path laid
out by our amazingly written constitution. That's not happening now,
and I'm going to talk about it. I think it's
time to impeach and fire President Donald Trump. I think

(16:38):
it's time to impeach and fire President Donald Trump. Now,
if you want to discuss it, I'll give you a
couple of minutes to make your point, and you can
call it another eric. What's it called in number. I'd
rather hear you say it because I'm inviting them, but
I want them to know there's an expert here that's
you know. They may think I'm faking them.

Speaker 8 (16:58):
Out three one thousand, nine or nine.

Speaker 10 (17:02):
Three eight three one thousand, Okay, So I mean that's
not going to be the total subject of today's program,
But I'm willing to let you interrupt us if you've
got something to say to protect, to justify. You don't

(17:23):
need to crucify him. I'm not wanting to suggest anything
like that. But if you want to talk about how
much you love President Trump, I'm going to give you
a number to call, and you make that call. And
I mean, we even have supportive services that we can

(17:44):
give you if you if you sound sick enough, I
can get you to a doctor. If you sound strong enough,
you know, I bring you in here, and you know,
give you a little time on the show, and we
can we can talk about it. I'm not afraid, and
I know you're not, especially if you're willing to call in.
So let me say this, and then I'm going to
introduce my guests, a couple of gentlemen that are purposeful

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to have things that they are doing every day that
are important not only in their lives, but in the
lives of folks that that depend on aspirations that are inclusive,
aspirations that are progressive, aspirations that are entertaining, aspirations that

(18:28):
are good intentions, trying to make the world a better place.
But let me say this about my president. I say
that because if I don't claim him, then if he
ain't my president, I'm gonna impeach him. If he's not
my president, how am I going to fire him? I
have to I have to say that my president placing

(18:53):
armed military on the streets of American cities, armed military
on the streets of American cities, having people arrested by
masked men, leaping out of unmarked cars.

Speaker 7 (19:13):
Who.

Speaker 10 (19:16):
Arresting people, mask men arresting people riding around in unmarked cars,
jumping out of the cars, arresting people, honoring traders and races,

(19:37):
honoring placing the photographs, big pictures on the wall of
and I'll just go to one of the biggest ones,
one that they honored most.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Robert E.

Speaker 10 (19:47):
Lee. What's wrong with Robert E. Lee? Nothing was wrong
with Robert E. Lee? If you love traders, men led
to charge against against our nation, cause the death of
over four hundred thousand Americans from the North and the South.

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A slave owner fought to keep slavery alive. And we
have a president who's placing his picture on the wall.
I suppose he's going to place it next to Putin's picture,
or get Putin and place him up there, because he
seems to love our sworn enemy Russia, Putin dictators. He's

(20:39):
targeting free he's targeting our press, targeting our newspapers, our
TV stations, our our folks that we've depended on to
help us see and understand what's going on. I mean,
if you're out here picking cotton every day, trying to
make a living, you don't have time to know all

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of what's going on. You depend on a journalist. You
depend on people who've dedicated their lives to tell them
the truth. And if you're a journalist, you are going
to tell at least two sides of the story, though
most of these stories have three or four sides. But
he's threatening our pressed with ridiculous lawsuits, he's threatening free speech.

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All of this is a step toward replicating Nazi Germany.
I'm not sorry to say it, but I'm sorry that
I'm in a position to have to say it. It's
time to dump Trump, it is time to impeach and
fire my president, and I need your help to do it.
So that being said, I'm going to take a break

(21:48):
and I'm going to come back and introduce a couple
of fine young men who are with great aspirations trying
to make America a better place and they deserve our support,
your support. And meanwhile, Eric, what's that number again, nine
O nine three eight three one thousand. You can use
that number, call up. You can interrupt this show. It

(22:10):
would be a good interruption. So don't be afraid. We
love you. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 10 (23:10):
Alright, this is im Powa talks back. I'm Waller s
Allen here on the case for truth and justice with
the right information to help you improve the situation. To
my immediate left, we have mister rich Wallace, the president
of the Southern California Black Chamber of Commerce. Rich, how
are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I am blessed and challenged and I thank you so
much for having me on the show today. And uh,
we are just overjoyed to be here as a Southern
California Black Chamber of Commerce. From the desert to.

Speaker 10 (23:39):
The sea, From the desert to the sea. Tell us
a little bit about the chamber.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
The Chamber is a business organization. You know, you run
across There's a lot of different types of business organizations
out here, and hopefully we're all doing the same thing,
going to the same direction to be able to get
small businesses benefits in these types of things. So we
work with a lot of the different other culture chains,
a Hispanic Coalition, the Different Asian Businesses Association, a couple

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of Jewish chambers out in the Hollywood area. So we
try to bring business atmosphere to our members. So kind
of like the same thing the city chamber. City chambers
responsible for making sure that a Walmart or something business
moves into their city as opposed to the next city.
So we do that for our members and we just
connect them from the desert to the sea. So it's

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always an opportunity to meet somebody you don't know at
a Southern California Black Chamber of Commerce mixer here in
the Inland Empire, or in one of our other areas.

Speaker 10 (24:35):
So what other areas do you cover?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well, we're actually when I say from the desert to
the Sea, we actually start in Long Beach. We're in
Beverly Hills. We have a wonderfully bit coming up in
Beverly Hills a couple of Fridays away. On our website
at Black Chamber of Commerce dot org. We're also in
Culver City and Hollywood, Pasadena, Pomona. Our director out in
the Pomona area of dee Goins used to be in

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our office here San Farndino, so now she's in Pomona.

Speaker 10 (25:02):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
We also have one in Temecula, Barstow, Victorville, Palm Springs.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Literally from the desert to the sea.

Speaker 10 (25:10):
Well, you have to have to take your ginkgo to uh.
Remember this stuff every day, don't you?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Every day? But when you say it like you doing,
if that's that's part of my s that's part of
my thirty second high how you do? And what's your name?
My name is Rich Walla's with the Southern California Black
Chamber of Commerce from the Desert to the Sea eks.
So that's all in one name.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Rich.

Speaker 10 (25:30):
You've been president for how many years?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I've been doing this for over thirty two years?

Speaker 10 (25:34):
Now? What's your proudest moment? Uh?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think my proudest moment was actually creating our youth
program with Youth Power Community Solutions, where we have a
high school and we bring young people in, get 'em
a high school diploma. We're for Wassaw credit in high school,
but to get them to start a business and to
see them come out of the six block area that
they grew up in and actually start a business and uh,

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grow out. I've got a couple of young people that
have started businesses in Las Vegas one in Florida that
have moved out of the area and actually created a
small business. We don't have a mechanic shop here, which
is a great story. A young man in our school
and his dad was fixing he's a shade tree mechanic
at the house, and I showed him how to get

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his license in the sun. Now they have a shop
down on Waterman with license and all of the other
things that goes with him. So though, I think those
are our proud moments that when we can change lives,
even at the chamber or at the school, it's we
get to a point when you're our age, it's it's
not about money, and we want some money, but it's

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not about the money. It's about how we can touch
each other and change some lives and help some young
people move forward.

Speaker 10 (26:47):
I guess part of that being able to work without
money is to simply name yourself rich.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, and and you know that way. Everybody that speaks
to me can agree upon that. So I'm looking for
people to agree that we are rich, and we are
rich and powerful because we have we have No matter
what situation is given to Black America, we rise to
the top. I heard you talking about the Constitution and
the people that wrote it, and those people had slaves,

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and we still rose to the top. No matter what
our current leadership does. We are still going to the movies.
We're still going, you know, But we need to get
our own movie houses. That's what we need to you know, Yes,
and we're making our own movies. Tyler Perry has shown
you that you don't really need that. And with the
younger generation making movies on TikTok and flip flopping and

(27:37):
all of the other kind of things that are out there,
we are. We are doing our thing and we are
not oppressed as they may think that, but we are.
Our light is beginning to shine as black people as
long as we can figure out a way to work together.
And I have to say this, I said all the time,
it's not necessary for us all to work together, but

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it's to serve for us all in our area to
work together. So as long as we are pushing our agenda,
and we'll join up down the line. Like I said,
there's other chambers, there's other business organizations, and we're you know,
we're tying in with them in different in different ways
with especial events and sharing the information. We work with
young Visionaries and a lot of other organizations. And I

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just was talking to someone the other day and there's
a new Veterans Chamber of Commerce coming out. Uh So
I sent out our love to them that we're going
to be trying to help with that.

Speaker 10 (28:34):
I am a United Ways coordinating and putting that together.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Okay, so and my blessings anything that the Southern California
Black Chamber can can do to help that move forward.
I am a veteran, so I may benefit from that
as well.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And as we grow, everyone grows. We're part of our
national organization out of Washington, d c our state or organization,
and I would like to have that Veterans Chamber tag
along and see how they can grow. So because the
veterans need it. You know, a lot of times they
don't get what they you know, what they should be
getting in an organization like mine. I am pro black.

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I'm not racist because I take a lot of different
people money right, you know, but I put it back
in the black community. Make sure that the black businesses
get what they need. And it's a mindset, you know that,
Brother Wallace, is that it's not always about money helping people.
It's about changing their mind and having them believe in
what they said they could do and sticking it out

(29:34):
because success is right around the corner from stop quit that.

Speaker 10 (29:39):
You know, words are so important, the word competition, It's
really important. I'd like it for us to go over
that for a second. But the word racist and racism
is very loosely used, and sometimes people use the word
racism to describe a preference a you know, I like

(30:03):
my chili with beings, you know, But that doesn't mean
I'm anti chili racism. For a person to be racist
means they have to have some type of control over
that person or that circumstance that they're trying to hold down.
Racism means that you have some type of policy that

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effectively stands in the way of someone else's progress based
on their race. And I happen to know for sure
which you are not a racist in the sense that
you are not trying to hold anybody back, as I've
discussed with you and talked with you about people that

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sometimes are out bad mountain and trying to argue and
compete at a level that as if we're going to
run out of the ability to help. If we're out
here helping, you cannot say that competing the help, it's
gonna have some type of negative end to it. If
if it's getting ready to rain, my grandparents were farmers.

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If it's getting ready to rain and we need to
get all the potatoes up out of the ground. We
can compete to pull up all of those and see
who can pull up the most potatoes. Doesn't mean you're
gonna get to eat all those potatoes, but it means
we are going to work together to save those potatoes
for our group, right, And this is this is what
we what we have to understand and what we have

(31:32):
to do together.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
You know, in the word of competition, for me, it's
a I never look at anything being competitive because I'm mean,
you know, and that's what you get. So if you
go someplace else, you don't get me and you get
whatever they offer, and hopefully that is great, but you
have to be so secure in yourself and your show

(31:56):
and what you're doing here is that they could be
I mean, there's a thousand radio shows on the internet
every third second, ten thousand, but when you come here,
you feel like this is the number one station. This
is the number one place to go. So there's no
competition between ten and eleven o'clock on Sunday morning because

(32:19):
Empire Talk Back is here.

Speaker 10 (32:21):
I like that, did you to say that point you're
talking about the Black champuer. I'm gonna be all right,
We're gonna get back and when I get back to you,
I'm gonna ask you what is it that is on
the horizon? What is it that you're working on? And
I know some of the things that you're working on,
and I think they're very important. I think they're very critical,

(32:42):
and I think the aspirations for our local future very
bright as far as you are concerned, because you are
looking to improve what's going on. I like to introduce
my next guest, the gentleman next to you, mister Brian
Keith Walker. He's an author, he is a funny man,

(33:04):
a comedian, he's an event producer. Brian, how are you
just born?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Very thankful and I'm very glad to be here this
morning on the subject that you're discussing about the Constitution
in so morning.

Speaker 10 (33:16):
Ah Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Might sound a little weird at first, because that's how
it is when you're a loner, but you have something
to say that everybody's not used to as of yet.
But I believe the Constitution was written by great men
that started the country, and I believe it was taken
over by a white racist similar to today. I spoke
on this before Obama was in office. All they need

(33:38):
to do now is get rid of the Constitution, and
that's what they're working on, and that is the Confederate
States of the United States. They're not the United States.
So you're seeing these things pushed to the limited in
front of your eyes. But without the right look at history,
we don't recognize it. That I want to get too
started any but I wouldn't want to get off my

(33:58):
chest that we ever heard of Black Wall Street, right,
and we know they bombed them out of their city.

Speaker 10 (34:04):
You're talking about uh, Tulsa and specific yes, yes, and
uh Rosewood and several other yes, black cities that uh
were created by black folk. Uh they created everything. I
think they every except the army or or police department
to protect themselves.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yes, I use that as a reference because I'm sharing
that the people that did those things are the same
ones that took over the country. It wasn't started by
bigotry and white men that we think cause they had
a few slaves. That's to me, it's called her red herring.
I'm not saying that slavery was good in any way,
but there's a difference between the Southerner and the Northerner.

(34:41):
And if you look at this book here. I wrote
a book on it, cause nobody really knew about it.
But this is called Bet, mum Bete Elizabeth Freeman. This
lady's lived in the house where they wrote the things
we're talking about. She was enslaved, but she got her
freedom in seventeen eighty one. And the reason why I'm
saying this is because if you don't know about Bet,
who's a slave who they call mom Bet because she

(35:03):
loved everyone who named herself Elizabeth Freeman. When she got
free in seventeen eighty one, she started freedom in the north.
The North was free. Have you ever watched Twelve Years
of Slave? I'm just using movies as a context. The
man was free in the beginning, and he was taken
back to the South under a different name. That slave
patrols took him to get their money. But it took

(35:26):
twelve years for them to go down there and find
him to get him out of that. But my point
is if you look at mom Bet, she was free
in seventeen eighty one, lived her dreams that most black
women want to do today, and that is by her
own home and things of that nature. But when you
look at her on your own without the guidance of
this book. I'm just sharing it's in the wrong perspective.

(35:47):
They just accounted her as a person that was uh uh,
she got hurt by a shovel iron, and they look
at her as a person that stands for not being
hurt and so forth for battery for women instead of
the the the the way she was brought out to
end slavery in the in the United States in the
in the sense, but it only started in the North

(36:09):
when Abraham Lincoln free slaves. They say that was already
done when the South succeeded and lost the war. Cause
until then, when we talk about them having slavery, they
joined the UN the United States when it began, and
they had state rights to have slaves, but they didn't
do it across the United States cause it wasn't allowed
in the North due to mum Bet being free. She

(36:29):
said the presidents in court, the other slaves got free,
and eventually the North was free. Wow, and you look
up quake Walker real quick. I'm Brian Walker. Quake Walker
in seventeen eighty eight was beaten. He was a He
was granted freedom when he was twenty five by his owner,
but his owner died and the wife remarried and the

(36:51):
one she remarried to refused to do it, so he
went back when he was twenty five to the house
where the son's state of the men that owned them
died and he and the h the owner now came
with his mob and beat him up to take him back.
He ended up going to court getting his freedom, and
the people I'm mentioning came out of court with money.
They didn't just use a free they came up with

(37:13):
restitution behind the battery.

Speaker 10 (37:17):
Very interesting.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
So we know that history will know that it wasn't
started by racist white man. It was taken over. And
I'll say the name Andrew Jackson on the twenty dollars bill.
You can google it. Now. Some people mention that Trump
is uh similar to Germany Germany, but if you look
at it, he's really the whole game plan is Andrew Jackson's.

(37:39):
And that's why you you look it up and you
can see is that's why Robert E. Lee he's putting
these things up because he's heroing the Confederacy a run
in front of our face.

Speaker 10 (37:51):
That's uh, that's true to to to to to the
extent of your passion, and the other thing that's true
is that the first person who shed blood in the
name of America was Christmas Addicts, who was a black man,
and he was a free black man. And we know

(38:13):
that despite the terrors of slavery, and the memories of
slavery that Donald Trump wants to erase, are there. Not
because that's what we want to glorify or use to

(38:34):
glorify our existence in America, but simply to exemplify the
reason that we want to stay in the lane of
aspirations of perfection for America. As far as I'm concerned,
I know about slavery. I read about slavery. I'm not
familiar enough about everybody's story to say whether it's true

(38:57):
or not. But I do know that in individuals, Black
individuals under the rule of slavery aspired to be free.
Some did, and certainly there were some who maybe found
some comfort in the relationships that they were able to have.
My mother from the South, Mississippi, is able to point

(39:25):
out Sarah, the African lady in the family, but she's
also able to point out the Baycoats, the family of
white that is, the cousins of her family. We go
to a family reunion, an African American family reunion, you

(39:51):
usually are going to see people who range in skin
color from I mean, you see the United Nations. You
see people who look white, could pass or white in
some cases may be doing so or maybe have actualized
that they are white all the way to people who
look like they've just arrived from Nigeria. But it's all family.

(40:15):
I don't know. That's the way it is. And my
family reunion, how about yours? As far as I'm concerned,
the people who are best suited to be totally acceptance,
accepting of people as Americans, accepting of people as people

(40:38):
they can work with and aspire to be great with,
come from the African American family, because that's what we
look like. That's what our family is composed of, not
all of them. But I think there's a tolerance as
well as an acceptance and an enthusiastic, enthusiastic acceptance of

(41:02):
people today who regardless of what they're coloring and melan
and content. It's like because we are at a point
where the character is very important as to who we
work with, as to who we go forward with. We
look at the coast of Mexico, the west coast of Mexico,

(41:25):
and if we get into the history, we'll understand and
remember that as Spain came into the Western hemisphere, they
didn't come in on the eastern side of America. They
came up the west coast. This is how they laid
out their missions here in California, and they brought slaves
with them. They tended to drop them off in Mexico

(41:49):
on the west coast. And as we go into our history,
we'll find that they left them alone and that many
of them created their civilization to mimic the civilization that
they have in Africa. Urban van centers. Our historians can

(42:16):
show this. Yes, we we are the people that represent
almost the whole world, and if we focus on just
one aspect of it in our attempt to survive and thrive,
we will miss the boat that we're trying to build.
As far as I'm concerned, Yes, so I'm not. I

(42:37):
don't want to cut anybody off because they happen to
have blue eyes, because I can go to Brazil and
find black folk. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I was just sharing too with the book. It's the
way we look at history. It's uh, he'd be argued,
but I'm just sharing. If we do the research. I'm
just sharing that there were white men that for quality,
not because they loved blacks, because they loved the Lord.
So the men they wrote that Constitution was those very
men who lost control of the country when Andrew Jackson

(43:09):
took it over. I would keep sharing that he started
a new Democratic Party for whites only. That's in history.
And before that it was a Democrat Republican Party, which
we should be under today. When one when when the
president wins, he's representing both parties, it's called the dim
rep Party. You can google it. And that was uh
John Quincy Adams, the son of John Adams who was

(43:30):
the sixth president. That was the last one. The seventh president.
Andrew Jackson took over under Democratic Party only without the
republic part that was brought back in eighteen fifty four
during the convention with the Whig Party. Abraham Lincoln was
a Whig and the Republican Party came back. And if
we look at that history, you'll know why the South
succeeded about the Civil War. They succeeded immediately cause they

(43:52):
felt they lost the country they had took. And so
these men that the Whig Party were the founders of
the g of of the country, the United States as
we know it, But they couldn't make the South get
it with the slaves enjoying the un know the United
States when it was created. That's why you have in
the and the and the builds and so forth about
the slave being three fourths of a human. That was

(44:14):
after mun bet them were freed in the North. To
write that end is to keep the slaves in the
South with the with the with the South having the
rights to have slavery. And so once they succeeded and
lost the war, Abraham Lincoln, freedom on paper, but they're
already free because they lost the right to have slaves
in the South.

Speaker 10 (44:32):
So as we look at that picture of the South
as you describe it, or that picture of the United
States as you describe it, and the picture that we
wake up to every day here in the United States,
what do you see as a means of putting us
back on the lane, back in the lane? Uh, the

(44:55):
Constitution for all men.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
By knowing this history the right way and become when
the dim rep party again, once you see that a
biggot no offense, I'm just sharing the facts that a
biggot unraveid. Then just if you're teacher in class, you
would go back to the era and get corrected. Right.

Speaker 10 (45:13):
Well, now here, here's the thing. Part of this has
to do with how you talk about my grandpa, just
like I say, talk about my mama, talk about my grandpa,
you talk about my great grandpa. If the mama tells
the child that your daddy ain't no good, the child
may appear to accept that, But at some point the

(45:35):
child's got to remember that that's her daddy and she's
carrying his blood and his genes and his tendencies. And
if Mama think he wasn't no good, maybe Mama don't
like me either. So as we get into playing the
dozens talking about people's past, there is something too the
idea that history can make some white people ashamed and

(46:01):
dreadful and dread the conversation about it.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Well, some people should be ashamed.

Speaker 10 (46:06):
Well, I understand. But now that we made them ashamed,
how do we bring them back into the game with
pride so that they can live a live a life
of pride, live a life of giving, live a life
of understanding that they can succeed in life despite the
past of their grandparents and great grandparents. Because all of

(46:29):
us have that deal. But you can very easily look
at most white people and say they didn't really have
anything to do with.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Prime example would be this, I'm just sharing. First look
at history and see that Andrew Jackson did separate the parties.
It should be under Democrat Republican Party instead of just
Democrat with the donkey on.

Speaker 10 (46:50):
Well, let me say this, a good leader, most men
are not able to lead. They're able to get to
the intersection, see where the crowd is going, and get
in front of him. I am not under the impression
that Donald Trump planted all of the seeds of racism

(47:13):
and hate, that he's able to play in a rally
where people come out and join him in his statements,
in his attitude. I'm thinking those seeds were there. He
simply watered them. He simply understand just sharing, and that's good.

(47:34):
But what I'm saying is, as we share, we have
to understand the physics of life that for every action,
there's a reaction, and that if I stay brown beating
you about the fact that you wrong, at some point
you're going to say, well, wait a minute, yeah I agree,
I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Now what But I'm just trying to ask you a
question earlier about whites and so forth, and feeling ashamed.
I'm just sharing to let them off the hook by sharing.
If you're not, I'm letting them off the hook. I'm
just sharing it's not white people in skin. That's why
I'm not saying that. I'm sharing that there is good
white people there from the beginning and separating them by
knowing knowledge of history. So I'm just sharing you saying

(48:13):
that Donald Trump didn't plant the didn't start racism, but
he wanted the seeds of it, and I'm sharing you're
correct by it's a country he's leading. They called the
Confederate States. They didn't go anywhere. So I'm just sharing
that if you look at history and see what happened
in it to learn from it, you will see that
good white people started this country, and they were beaten

(48:35):
like the people on Black Wall Street. That's why I
use that example earlier. Okay, there's pictures of people with
their bare face hanging blacks and burning them, right, you've
seen pictures of that nature. Yes, whether they're wearing clan uniforms, no,
the clan uniforms are for other whites that they beat.
They cover their face from attacking their political enemies who

(48:56):
said that you and I were equal with whites. Do
you see I'm just using it for reference. Have you
ever heard seen the movie To Help?

Speaker 10 (49:04):
Yes? Okay, so there's good people, Yeah, of course. Now
my concept is who do we spend our time working
with the people who are marginally bad or the people
who are marginally good.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
You work with the good and pay for the bad.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Okay, Well, you know you look at you talk about
mister Trump. Seventy three million people voting for him, seventy
two million people voted for the other person.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
So there's a.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Couple million away from being overseer of everything. So when
you if you want to do something, now, there's a
couple of things we could do in my opinion, right now,
right now the Republican there's an election coming up in
a year and a half, the primary, and a lot

(50:02):
of us that look like us are on the Democratic ticket.
But there's a lot of that look like us that
are Republicans. There used to be in an organization called
Baypac Black political organization. Their job was to recruit black
people on both sides of the fence and have them run.
So I think the leaders of the Republican Party today

(50:25):
would look real strange when the primary if there were
at least three black people in every race that they
were in, which would split their ticket. So we have
to play the game that's played for us, and we
can't change the rules of football, you know, unless we

(50:46):
go talk to the owners and here and they're the owners.
So if we get in the game, so the election game,
which what the power game is, and begin to help
the cities that have black mirrors look better, because yeah,
I heard you saying about the army and the National

(51:07):
Guards going in the city, but they're goring in the
cities with so much crime, and they're blaming us for
the crime. Absolutely, Now, all of the crimes not our fault,
but we getting blamed for it because when something come
up stolen, there's only two black people in the room.
I don't know who they're gonna blame, So they're gonna
blame the black people. So what we gotta do is, Okay,

(51:27):
the National Guard is here, but they're National Guard, black
people National Guard and white people national Guard and Hispanic people.
They have a job to do. We put the National
Guard in Paris or in France. When we can take
over these countries, there's national guards walking up and down
the street, and almost every country that you've ever been to,
you see a guy with a sixteen which is not
a police officer.

Speaker 10 (51:47):
No. And that's one of the differences that we've traditionally
felt about America is that we don't see that. We
don't have that. Our constitution says, aspirationally, we do not
place our military on america soil. That's what that's the
idea of perfection. But at the same time, when you
have a policy that says I'm going to defund the

(52:10):
police and make your cities weaker, okay, because you gotta
have had a group of people running around saying defund police.
But I'm gonna agree with him. We're gonna stop paying
the police. We're gonna take away billions of dollars from
our cities to defund the police. Now, when you don't
have enough police, well what's enough police? Think about what

(52:34):
happens when you're driving down the freeway and you see
a highway patrol. I don't care who you are. Nine
times out of ten, you're gonna slow down. Actually, if
you just see the car and you roll up on
it and you pass the car, parked onside of the
road and you don't see no police in it, you
still have slowed down, and you still figure, well, maybe

(52:56):
he was bent down in the car, maybe he was
in the bushes. But it controls you for a moment.
The appearance of National Guard on your streets with guns
is going to slow you down if you are driving, walking,
or even thinking about doing anything illegal, simply by the

(53:18):
sheer numbers. So if you put the National Guard in
any city, crime is going to go down. But if
you put an empty police car at every corner and intersection,
chances are crime is going to go down. So the
presence of the police has and imitate intimidating effect on

(53:44):
most of us, even the people who ain't trying to
do nothing wrong. They said, well, what's the police doing here?
But as soon as I lost my wallet the other day,
I found my wallet by the way, But I lost
my wallet and my first did I leave? Did it
fall out of the car and sit on the sidewalk?

(54:07):
What was the police if somebody walked around and found
my wallet? What we need and want the police to
be our point and advantage. But I agree with you
Rich that if we are going to deal and live
in a political atmosphere. We certainly have to have some
political strategies that we're going to operate with. And as

(54:30):
I look back on the so called black movement that
delivered us to a situation where we had a civil
rights movement and some civil rights laws put in place,
those were not done simply by black folk operating alone.
And it wasn't done by black folk and a few
black folk who managed to ask for white and come in.

(54:51):
This was done as a result of cooperation between black folk,
white folk, brown folk. To know this country certain yes, sir, and.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I agree with you so much. But you know, brother Wallace,
a lot of this is done by money. First, we
spend our money in our area, if we open up
our dry cleaners, if we invest in our own line
it could be Hilton line of Hilton Hotels that we own.

(55:23):
If we begin to go back where we came from
with our own baseball teams and our own they let
Jackie Robinson into baseball because we were selling more tickets.

Speaker 10 (55:34):
There nobody in Korea town. It's shame to have.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
In Korea down no nowhere in it, and not a
shame to put up a sign that you cannot read
that's right. So that said don't even come in here.

Speaker 10 (55:47):
We are in the state of California, which was promised
with the treaty that removed California from the possession of Mexico.
That treaty said that we would always have an open border.
That we are basically in Mexico. We have a strong

(56:08):
Mexican contingent. By right, they're not ashamed to support each other.
Drive miles in order to do that. Black folks have
to if we are going to be successful with business,
we need to be able and willing to support each other.
White people don't have a big problem supporting black owned

(56:29):
businesses that they want to support.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
It's a thing going on now that we're creating out
around Washington, DC Office of the US Black Chamber of Commerce,
and it's look at the black business first, Buy Black.
We're going to a national campaign across the United States
saying buy black.

Speaker 10 (56:45):
Stop boycotting black owned business.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Stops boycotting black, and stop boycotting businesses that support black
owned businesses. So we need to turn the wheels. Recycling.
The black dollar is a good thing, but it's not
enough dollars in that circles. So and if we do
start recycling the black dollars and go back to the
black neighborhood. I'm sorry, go back to being segregated on

(57:08):
our own side of the fence. You watch how the
banks and the other attitudes will change.

Speaker 10 (57:13):
Concentrating as opposed to segregating. Concentrate our money, concentrate our
money to a circumstance that is as friendly with us
as our needs are.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Power.

Speaker 10 (57:30):
Well, no, no, the power. Now, let's let's understand a little. Well,
of course it is. But here's a look at this power.
The money that our churches collect on Sunday morning, on
Monday morning go into banks that will not loan them
the money to do what they need to do. Is

(57:50):
that the bank's fault. No, whose fault is.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
That the person that's putting the money in the Oh?

Speaker 10 (57:55):
Okay, who's got the power? Who's got the power?

Speaker 2 (57:58):
The person with the money?

Speaker 10 (57:59):
Okay. Now, because we're making bad decisions in the position
of making a decision, the power to make a decision,
but we're not making decisions that benefit us. That looks
a little strange, doesn't it. When we turn around and
tell other people you need to support us, if we're

(58:22):
not supporting ourselves, how are we going to expect other
people to support us? If we look outside of the
room for cooperation from outsiders, but we cannot cooperate within,
then we waste a lot of energy complaining about what

(58:43):
the outside people are doing. Solution is our number one
goal as we aspire to do what needs to be done.
And I'm saying this because you're on the quickest You're
on the quickest our radio. And now I can't share
no time left because because we don't have any time left.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
So so I'll make a quick announce before we make
it really quick down. Okay, Southern California Black Chamber of
Commerce Unity Diversity Conferences coming up on October sixteenth and
seventeenth and in the city of Ontario. Check us out
at Black Chamber of Commerce dot org.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
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Speaker 10 (59:32):
Your way to a good attitude and progress. This is
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mister Anthony the Great Guarcia, Eric, thank you for a
great job. Brian Rich see you guys next week. Under
two circumstances, one if the Good Lord's willing too, if
their creek don't rise. God bless you. Thank you for
your time.

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