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(08:12):
that's the Great Anthony, garcia the Moon. Master this Is
Empire Talks. Back I'm Wallace allen here on the case
for truth justice with the right information to help improve the.
Situation today's show is brought to you by The Improved,
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Jules ruthie's jewels as we go. Forward but today we're
going to celebrate our. Artist we're celebrating our artists because
they're very special. Communicators they cross bend and break culture.

(08:55):
Barriers they speak truth to. Power they make ops of
itations that are not limited by our physical abilities or
social and political. Restrictions they are as free as the.
Win they are our window into what could be heroes
and she rose that mark our. Generations Lewis, Armstrong Billy,

(09:18):
Holliday John, Coltrane Sam, Cook Ella, Fitzgerald Curtis, Mayfield James,
Brown Diana, Ross Michael, Jackson Smokey, Robinson Jimmy, Hendrix Bob,
Marty Betty, Wright, beyonce and on and on and. On
we love them. All we love the ones THAT i haven't.

(09:38):
Mentioned they bring us. Together today's political atmosphere has pushed
many contemporary artists to make political. STATEMENTS tv Hosts Jimmy
kimmel comes to, mind not because of the death of his,
statements but because of the reaction to the. Statements in

(10:00):
a similar vein the announcement that international Superstar Bad bunny
will be the halftime entertainer for The Super bowl that
has evoked a truly next level response from THE tt.
Tribe THAT'S tt That's trump. Tribe the tts hate the

(10:22):
idea of The Puerto rican superstar performing Is spanish performing In.
Spanish they hate it so much that they the, haters
are organizing their own halftime. Show i'm impressed by their
creativity AND i support their right to express. It, HOWEVER

(10:42):
i do have some. Questions i'm not gonna spend all
of the show asking questions about, them BUT i am
going to spend a lot of time talking about us
and what we can do about. It BUT i do
wonder is THE nfl going to endorse or allow them
to use the word Super? Bowl? Interesting interesting are? They

(11:05):
how are they going to brand? It will they stream
it live for? Free who will be the, entertainers and
who will sponsor all Of that's not really that's, interesting
but it's not really. Important WHAT i really wonder is
how many people will Take Bad bunnies challenge to learn
to Speak spanish Understand spanish by The Super bowl halftime. Show,

(11:32):
now from WHAT i, understand there are many language of
the language teachers out there that are making special offers
to allow that to. Happen BUT i know that living
here in Southern. California one of the things that makes
no sense to, me And i'm as guilty as the
people THAT i want to talk. To but we are

(11:56):
in Southern. California we are actually living In mexico according
to the Same It All go, treaty and part of
that treaty stated that we would always be a dual
language region at the very. Least but you know how
treaties have been treated here by those who speak.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
With the four.

Speaker 10 (12:16):
Tongue but at the same, time just for the sake
of being able to get along and understand and enlarge
our brain cavity with our brain Speaking spanish seems to
be a very natural movement for us to. Make but,
ANYWAY i can understand the fear that it makes for

(12:37):
those who are biased and racists who are trying to
deliver white supremacy as a statement From god that the
idea of people who are non white coming together is
supposed to being divided and, conquered causes a fear to those.

(12:57):
People where they're or not that fear is, JUSTIFIED i don't,
know BECAUSE i don't know really what they're afraid. OF
i do know their position of desired superiority is one
that will not. LAST i can understand. It we all
like to be in. Charge we all like to get
the biggest sweets of. Chicken we like to think that

(13:20):
the world is all about. Us but as we mature in,
life we find that it's not a good life if
we don't have other people that we care, about that we,
love that we share our lives. With so we're going
to spend a little time today talking with some special
people who are in the realm of, artistry either performing or,

(13:45):
managing or involve some type of way in appreciating the
work of. Others and among that group is let me
introduce them. Now one we'll have Mishah Alan. Murray whether
she's consulting behind the scenes are creating on center. Stage
Michel Allan murphy embodies the belief that culture is a

(14:09):
calling and she answers it with, faith, creativity and. Purpose
she is a creative entrepreneur and spiritual influencer whose work bridges, entertainment,
empowerment and cultural. Legacy as an independent, Consultant mishua partners
with legacy music, catalogs established artist and rising, talent offering creative,

(14:35):
direction strategic, insight and culturally grounded. Guidance she is also
the co founder of eight seven Six records and founder
of two lifestyle, Brands One Jam, socks a Bold jamaican
inspired sock, line And One Life Live lit and online

(15:00):
and boutique that celebrates vibrant international. Living she's joined By
Venicia Fernandez, lovely the dynamic Leader Community, strategists, strategist lifelong
advocate for civic engagement and the, arts and Proud Afro

(15:21):
latina with over thirty six years of experienced driving community based.
Initiatives form from being a member of The Coconut Grove Children's,
theater working in The Florida, legislature during which time she
Created dominican on The, capitol which transforms Into dominicans on The,

(15:46):
hill to co founding Kayla Q i'm gonna Have she's
gonna have to show me how to pronounce THAT I Oh,
Papa but she has a wonderful podcast And Black tino.
Is most recently the Name venus stepped even further into public,
service running for office and winning the seat Of Community

(16:08):
councilwoman this Past august In Miami Dade. County born In,
brooklyn raised In, miami With southern roots And dominican Roots
venus carries a legacy of service as the daughter a
Former New York dominican Consultant Consul General Francisco. Fernando her

(16:29):
work continues to uplift and empower communities Across South. Florida
and here in the studio with me Is Miss Lou
dowdy Of Loo. Productions she is a, producer a, performer
the founder Of Loop. Productions she's involved in artist management and.
Development and all three of these, young lovely young ladies

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are quite capable of leading us out of the confused
world of where SHOULD i? Go what SHOULD i? Do
CAN i get some? Milk we're gonna take a short,
break and WHEN i come, back we'll get a chance
to talk to these experts in life despite their young,
age these inspirations for, others these guiding lights for those

(17:18):
of us whose eyes are getting. Dim we'll be right.
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Speaker 10 (18:18):
One all, right we are. Back this Is Impiro Talks.
Back I'm Wallace. ALLEN i usually am able to visualize
what the show is going to be like AS i
let my head hit the pillow of the night. Before

(18:41):
but Today i've got at least two scorpios on the
on the lines where It's miss lewis one and miss
yeah and and miss miss mische is the other. Venus
what is your astrological?

Speaker 12 (18:55):
Situation, yes very much.

Speaker 10 (18:59):
So she's what a? Capricorn, okay so we've got somebody
holding the earth down in good, shape and uh My
pisces wandering here will somehow allow uh at least me
to swim through these these wonderful waters that are available to,
Us Miss, VENUS i kind OF i kind of botched

(19:23):
up a couple of things in your. Intro uh what
DID i? Say? That major shoulders kind of raised up and, said, Oh,
papa you did it? Wrong what DID i?

Speaker 13 (19:32):
Do?

Speaker 10 (19:33):
So what DID i? Say DID? I AND i did
not pronounce your podcast? Correctly i'm sure of. That tell
us about your?

Speaker 14 (19:38):
Podcast, well my podcast is Called oh.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
No WONDER i didn't get that. RIGHT i have not
been taking My spanish. Lessons say that, again that sounds.
Great hell okay.

Speaker 14 (19:52):
As a, problem and again that's one of our ways
of saying welcome and you know what's. Up so the
podcast is and it was started over five years, ago
and it was a way to Highlight dominicans because at
least in a lot of spaces That i've been, in
they're always surprised by that They're dominicans in these spaces

(20:14):
or surprised that there Are dominicans doing such amazing.

Speaker 12 (20:18):
Things so all we do it's not a political.

Speaker 14 (20:22):
It's just about highlighting my, culture my community and the
people that impact and has impacted not Only dominicans In Dominican,
republic but also The dominicans that here.

Speaker 12 (20:33):
That live in The United.

Speaker 13 (20:34):
States, well Fla South florida because guess, what every brown
person In South florida is not cute very.

Speaker 12 (20:42):
Much. True there are.

Speaker 15 (20:44):
In South florida television we have we.

Speaker 14 (20:46):
Have, ecuadorian we Have, nicaraguan we have people From, belize
we have every Culture. Peru, uh there's a whole continent
Called South. America but BECAUSE i live In South, florida
especially In Miami Miami Dade, county they assume BECAUSE i Speak,
spanish THAT i must Be cuban.

Speaker 12 (21:06):
Descent But i'm a very.

Speaker 14 (21:08):
Proud child of my, dad which was born in The Dominican,
republic and my grandmother on my mother's, side which was
also from The Dominican.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
Republic so.

Speaker 15 (21:20):
We have A florida is a big old melting, pot very.

Speaker 10 (21:24):
Much so let me ask. You let me ask, you
as a melting pot liver in a it's a resident
of a melting. Pot is the heat enough to actually
melt and meil these people of color? Together or is
the divide and conquer syndrome of the supremacist? Operating?

Speaker 13 (21:48):
Uh To if it's a, party if it's a, carnival
if it's, party we all, outside well it Is carnival weekend.

Speaker 14 (21:57):
Here SO i will say that we have come, together
but if you're talking about, politically it's a little hard to.
Say BUT i must start off with, saying like you
have to understand the history Of. Florida people forget That
florida is a southern. State and WHEN i say, that
it is not just by where the end of The,

(22:18):
south but a lot of things historically that happened to
the black and brown community was started.

Speaker 12 (22:25):
Here and we even had.

Speaker 14 (22:26):
At one point a flag that was considered in the
state Of florida that said let us. Alone so right,
there it kind of tells you That florida's very. Different
and the city Of miami was actually founded by A Bahami,
yes A bahamian.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Woman.

Speaker 13 (22:43):
Yes SO i know that in the rest of the,
country especially right, now there are these people who have
these assumptions about the state Of florida because of the
current government Of. Florida but quite, frankly to assume that
all of the people in the state Of florida are
represented by the government Of florida would be like assuming

(23:05):
that all of the people in The United states Of
america are represented by the Current american.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
Government and, well do you, know you know what. Occurs, yes,
well BEFORE i get into, that let me introduce you,
Guys Miss Lou, Dowdy Miss, lou how are you this?

Speaker 16 (23:23):
Morning i'm, Well i'm, well, high.

Speaker 10 (23:25):
Ladies she is At she's At California, Scorpio Miss. Lou
as they've stated their position In miami and trying to
straighten out the impressions one may have Of, florida did
they give you any new view on what's going? On
or does this sound pretty familiar to what you may
know or IMAGINE i am In.

Speaker 17 (23:46):
Florida, well you, know honestly, SPEAKING i can't really speak
To florida BECAUSE i don't know much About. FLORIDA i
do have an auntie, though shout out a cookie In.
Florida BUT i really don't know much About, florida SO
i can't even speak to. That, okay, well you, know
don't speak to nothing or nothing you don't know, about
you know.

Speaker 16 (24:03):
What But i'm listening And i'm learning so.

Speaker 10 (24:06):
Well there's a song that SAYS i don't know much
about his. Sturvey but we have a lot of people
who speak on, history some of them running the. Country
matter of, Fact i've got one person AND i say
THAT i wasn't gonna talk about, him but you KNEW
i was. Lying who historically trying to upgrade or downgrade

(24:28):
his understanding of The Civil, war has decided that he
wants to put back all of these. Statues and the
main Statue i'm objecting to is that Of ROBERT. E,
lee the man who caused so, many so many conscientious
white people to die in The Civil war as they
fought and tried to figure out who's supposed to wipe who's.

(24:50):
BEHIND i, don't And i'm really disappointed about how these
people are so confused about what's right and what's, wrong
and especially Since christianity is the flag that they all
want to. Fly So i'm not going to run off

(25:11):
in that direction too, often But i'm never going to
leave that seat Where i'm concerned about what we say
religiously and how we act in reality. RELIGIOUSLY i THINK
i go back to and love that thought that we're
all created. EQUAL i do like the idea That god
painted us differently and gave us the opportunity to look

(25:33):
at each other and make comparisons and decide how much
we can love the differences that we. Provide because the
different views that we have are the things that allow
us to have a complete understanding of this big cookie
that is in between. Us not meaning your aunt, cookie
but cookie that we're looking. At you, know some are

(25:57):
looking at it from the, bottom some from the, side
some from the, top and sometimes we get. Confused some
think it's a, doughnut some think it's a, cake some
think that is it's some but it's all ours when
we understand that what you see helps me see completely
WHAT i THINK i, see AND.

Speaker 16 (26:17):
I love that looking through just one lens is not
going to get.

Speaker 10 (26:20):
It, no, no, no it just confuses us and makes us.
Lopsided and you, know it's like looking At. God you,
know we think we Know god and we're actually looking
at his, toe and somebody else is looking at his,
elbow and somebody else thinks they know all About god
because they see the top of his. Head we need
each other to see completely what's between us so that

(26:42):
we can. Understand this is Why i'm a little enthused
About Bad. Bunny i'll have to, admit you, KNOW i
have not downloaded any of his. Music that's you, KNOW
i don't know if that's it's not, problem it's not
problematic To brown To Bad bunny because he's doing. Well

(27:03):
BUT i do have to, SAY i guess that's a
position THAT i share with our president and some of
the Other trumpites in that who is bad? MONEY i
ain't never heard of, It but from my, STANDPOINT i
never listened to a lot Of Taylor, swift BUT i
know she did well on The Super. BOWL i Know beyonce,

(27:25):
looks looks and smells, wonderful BUT i have to SAY
i haven't.

Speaker 16 (27:30):
Heard of The.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
QUEEN i have not listened to a lot of you, Know.
BEYONCE i grew up and have nieces and nephews and
children who grew up With Michael. Jackson and you, KNOW
i Know i'm, bad AND i know a few other,
pieces BUT i can appreciate the things THAT i don't
know when they're put in front of. Me gives me
an opportunity to improve and dissolve a level of my.

(27:57):
Ignorance So i'm looking really forward to seeing more About Bad.
Bunny i'm really looking forward to it BECAUSE i understand
that he performs in Non. ENGLISH i HEARD i did
look up enough to know that he SAYS i don't
necessarily perform In. Spanish BUT i definitely don't perform In

(28:17):
english Non english, said that's. Creative i'd like to know
from your perspectives because all three of you ladies are
involved in inspiring, people which means you have to understand
where they are. First you have to listen to where
they want to. Go you have to use your intellect

(28:39):
of where the roads are that you know that lead
to places as you help people do what they. Do Miss,
lou you are in the artist development and management, business
as Is, mishra and Certainly venus is involved in getting
people to, vote to understand why they, vote and all

(28:59):
of those things are that that's part of the motive
that Makes america. Work so tell me how you feel
about the influence that artists. Have is that? Critical is that?
Important why are you? Doing why do you do what you?
Do Miss?

Speaker 17 (29:16):
Lou, well thank you for having me on your platform once,
Again lou With Lou. PRODUCTIONS i it's extremely, IMPORTANT i.
Feel i'm just saying for artists to have a to
be able to have a, platform and to be able
to express.

Speaker 16 (29:33):
Themselves i'm, sorry was that the? Question can you repeat the? Question?

Speaker 10 (29:36):
No repeat the?

Speaker 16 (29:38):
Question i'm, Sorry.

Speaker 10 (29:40):
Mark my question is just to inspire you to speak
about how important the art, is how important it is
for artists to be free enough to say what they
need to, say and how the guidance that comes from
people like you is artistry is.

Speaker 17 (29:57):
Important it's a self it's self, expression you. Know we you,
Know creator gave us all gifts and, talents you, know
and those, who in my, opinion are in the in the,
artistry realm or world or, whatnot they have to get it,
off you know WHAT i. Mean you, know you can't
stay bottled. In it's just like freedom of. Speech it's
the same thing with, artists you, know freedom of, expression

(30:19):
whether you, sing whether you, dance whether you like the
Mood master over. Here you, know he's expressing himself right,
now you, know through his. Artistry AND i think it's very,
important you, know to be, you, know to be, authentic you,
know and not to be censor to a certain.

Speaker 16 (30:36):
Extent you.

Speaker 17 (30:37):
Know now if it's to the point to where you're
hurting or having people, harmed then you.

Speaker 16 (30:41):
Know BUT i feel like artists should be able to
be able to be.

Speaker 17 (30:44):
Themselves you, know because that's where you're gonna get the
best out of the. Artist when they're able to let
go and be themselves and have free.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
Expression, uh, miss miss, you how do you feel about
that question or the answers to that and why do
you do what you do in the realm of music and?

Speaker 13 (31:02):
Art, WELL i, think first and, FOREMOST.

Speaker 12 (31:08):
I was born doing.

Speaker 13 (31:09):
IT i was born watching my parents do. IT i
was born watching my father be a. POET i was
born watching my mother paint and then. Sing AND i
think also as a, mother WHAT i recognize is that
expression and creativity is a part of who we all are.

(31:30):
Spiritual it's just that there are some people who articulate
who they are better than. Others and so the reason
why art is, important the reason why music is, important
is because it comes from a place that actually exists
in all of, us the same way that we are
all spiritual. Beings and so one of the things That

(31:52):
i've always said is THAT i noticed that a song
can articulate something THAT i don't have the words in
the language to express.

Speaker 15 (32:04):
What i'm, feeling you.

Speaker 13 (32:05):
Know september eleventh was very interesting because as an, impact
the situation was so deep on so many. Levels to
watch and regardless of the fact THAT i grew up
my first two albums Were mickey and The beanstalk And
The Jackson. Five SO i grew, up you, know around,
music and then OBVIOUSLY i spent some time In, nashville

(32:26):
SO i love country, music BUT i wasn't familiar With
Alan jackson in that. Way but six days After september,
eleventh when the first program that came on WAS i
think was THE, cma so it was an award. Show
and this man literally sat there with his, guitar this
southern white, man and basically said where were? You and
the world stop? Turning and he, Said i'm just a

(32:46):
singer of simple. Songs i'm not a real political. MAN
i WATCHED, cnn BUT i don't THINK i can tell
you the difference.

Speaker 12 (32:52):
BETWEEN i rock AND.

Speaker 13 (32:53):
Im BUT i Know jesus AND i talked To, god
AND i remember this from WHEN i was. Young, faith,
hope and love are some good things he gave, us
and the greatest is. Loved that didn't require being A
democrat Or. Republican it didn't even require being An. American
it required an access to who each.

Speaker 12 (33:12):
Of us are as spiritual.

Speaker 13 (33:14):
Beings and so to, me art is an expression of his,
spirit and it is at its best when you know
who you are and you're expressing who you. Are but
the thing about it is also when you don't know
who you, are but you just know what you're surrounded,
BY a good artist will express that, too and you

(33:35):
have to have the freedom to do all of it
because the perspective that that particular artist may have is
one that may BE i don't have.

Speaker 12 (33:44):
BECAUSE i don't live in what he lives.

Speaker 13 (33:45):
In you, know When nwa came out and it was
a type of rap that everybody, said, well wait a,
minute this is not, parents don't understand what are y'all.
Doing this is not it was someone's, perspective jazz or someone's.
Perspective music is the language that everyone, speaks whether we
have the exact same speaking language or. Not that's Why

(34:07):
Bad bunny can be the most streamed artists in the,
world even in countries where they Speak, french where they
Speak portuguese where they speak because.

Speaker 12 (34:19):
Language, yeah it's.

Speaker 13 (34:20):
The energy in the music and and so that's that's
one of the reasons why the arts get.

Speaker 15 (34:24):
Attacked they've been doing that since The.

Speaker 14 (34:28):
Renaissance well that's what that's that's normally WHAT i was
going to. Say it's like you, know even when people
think About Bad bunny And i'm just because we were
talking About Bad, bunny you, know people forget. Again i'm always,
like you've got to know your history so you know
where you're. Going you, Know reggaeton, music which is what
he primarily, sings come, from afrobeats comes from The, caribbean

(34:52):
beats comes from all of. That and they started off
just like anything, else it was to talk about what
we shouldn't be talking. About it's a way of sliding
these conversations in to talk about what we're, feeling what
we're going. Through that does that always kind of in
many ways allowed us to to express ourselves either via,

(35:16):
dance via, songs and you, Know Bad, bunny you, know you,
know look as An Afro Latina Bad, bunny people forget.
That yes He's Puerto, rican a Proud Puerto rican, born
but He's american because The United states took over that.

Speaker 12 (35:33):
Country so for.

Speaker 14 (35:35):
Them to say that he cannot perform on a platform
like that is and why ignorance and why people don't.
Understand it's like you don't use there's a lot of
music THAT i CAN'T i can't say THAT i, understand but.

Speaker 12 (35:49):
Emotionally my body.

Speaker 14 (35:51):
Reacts to it because it's it's an, emotion it's a
it's a, feeling it's a.

Speaker 10 (35:57):
Sensation let me jump.

Speaker 12 (36:00):
IN i feel like it needs to Be.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
Let me jump in on that statement about. Emotion in
their political, campaigns and this is Where i'm going to
jump get you to speak, Again Miss. Venus in their
political campaign there's usually a lot of music played before
the speeches are done are brought. On we've had incidents

(36:25):
where people artists have asked politicians to not use their.
Music there's politicians who have you excuse, me who've used
music that is there to emotionally charge up the, Crowd Miss.
Venus as you've done rallies and, stuff have you used?

(36:46):
Music have you not used music to do the same? Thing?

Speaker 14 (36:50):
Oh, constantly, constantly you, know when we ARE i mean
that is part of a. Strategy you, know when we
think about when we're going into certain, communities you, KNOW i,
mean when we think about opening doors and certain you,
know for candidates.

Speaker 12 (37:06):
To speak to that, community that is part of the.
Strategy who's gonna?

Speaker 14 (37:11):
COME i, MEAN i can speak more About miami right,
now but when they intentionally, say, oh let's reach out
To kamup Or Trick daddy Or nikki jan because they
have the voice of the. Ear when you See Jennifer,
Lopez Mark, anthony you know WHAT i, mean when you
See Barber, streisan those are. One let's be, honest you

(37:34):
are gonna get a dinner graphic that you're. Targeting let's
by growing, up you, know you think about your, past
how CAN i move the? Crowd and then when you
think of, yes how CAN.

Speaker 12 (37:47):
I move the?

Speaker 10 (37:47):
Crowd but how CAN i move the? Crowd? Yeah how
CAN i move the? Crowd let me ask a thought
that you guys have just made race across my forehead.
Here as we are, concerned as they are concerned About
they say they're concerned About Bad bunny not speaking and

(38:10):
singing In. English maybe they're concerned About Bad bunny being
such an attraction that he may cause some of the
uh normally attracted to the conservative side of. Things if

(38:31):
they are exposed To Bad, bunny maybe they would start
being a little more sensitive to some of the things
That Bad bunny. Represents maybe that's why people who don't
like the idea Of Bad bunny performing at the Super,
bowl where he will have opportunity to not speak to

(38:54):
the same, people not just the same people that he's
been speaking, to but to a new group with people
who could be moved to jump the, fence to cross,
over to start asking, questions to want to mingle and
hang out with the group of people who are Bad

(39:14):
Bunny Heites.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Man.

Speaker 10 (39:20):
Alive maybe they just, Don't maybe they just don't want
that influence of soul being injected into These, uh.

Speaker 16 (39:31):
It's like to, me it's like.

Speaker 17 (39:33):
Anything it's just like when the whole kendle Oft mar
last year with the Kendlu mar somethn want Kendred lamar
because it was too, political and.

Speaker 10 (39:41):
That Was drake that didn't Want i'm just.

Speaker 16 (39:43):
Collic i'm not like. Us let you guys know.

Speaker 10 (39:47):
THAT i do know a, little but, no you're you're the,
opposition the. OPPOSITION i think the first TIME i read it,
was oh my, goodness the. Artist i'm not going to
spend time letting you know how bad my memory. Is
but what he said on his record cover in the

(40:09):
liner notes US i want to thank all of my
friends who supported, me but most IMPORTANTLY i want to
thank those people who resisted, me because in your RESISTANCE
i was able to find my strength to go. Forward
so this is where we. Grow this is where we

(40:31):
are able to actually make, strides not by continuing to
talk to those who understand, us those who support, us
those who are cheering for, us but to talk to
those who are in, wonderment those who don't know, us those,
who in some cases are coming to the floor thinking

(40:53):
that they are against, us but being able to hear this,
music to feel this, beat understand the humanity that can
take place outside of your little wall or your little
perceived yard of what should.

Speaker 14 (41:08):
Be.

Speaker 10 (41:10):
Uh this is What this is What Public enemy did
as you spoke about. Them this is what rap music
did to white people while black parents were, saying what
are you guys? Doing pull your pants? Up what are
you talking? About Steph. Cursey, meanwhile when you pulled into
the gas station and heard that loud music in the car,

(41:33):
bumping you look over there expecting to see some black,
guy and you look over and you see a little white,
girl you, know bumping and leaning to carry it on
because that music is that. Way maybe that's what they're.
In did you call me? Daddy did you call me
did you just call me? Daddy on her?

Speaker 16 (41:53):
D that's a different.

Speaker 10 (41:54):
Show but that is my. Daughter let me say, this
let me me give a Disc, no, no don't first
name me.

Speaker 17 (42:05):
Either oh, you it's gonna be a call after the.

Speaker 16 (42:13):
Show, Now.

Speaker 10 (42:17):
I'm sorry to me THAT i cannot know before.

Speaker 13 (42:25):
Say AND i think it's important is that before there
was rap, music there was also there were a bunch
of white kids gathering and people Like simon And Garf
bunk and people Like Peter paul And marrit and people
Like Bob dylan also speaking because they're just as you.

(42:46):
Have culture is not just about. Race sometimes there are
different cultures and things that are happening. Generationally and the
thing that's interesting about the times that we live in
right now is that we're also dealing with, generational like
age type cultures because you have this group of old

(43:08):
white men who want to see this country a certain
way and they are kind of insisting that they're gonna
make it look like that no matter. What and what's
happening is that young people of all backgrounds who have
had these last couple generations of not being separate because

(43:30):
of The, internet because of, YouTube because of, sports because
of all these.

Speaker 15 (43:34):
Things you're, right you're gonna see.

Speaker 13 (43:37):
Just as many young people who are supposed to be
more Like Baron, trump you, know and they're gonna be
out there dancing about Bad. Bunny THAT i believe is
what they may be afraid, of because they're trying to
create this impression that there's this, separation and that the
separation is, wanted and that the separation is. DISTINCT i

(44:01):
look At saturday, NIGHT i.

Speaker 12 (44:03):
See where you're. Going but you know, me you also
have to go.

Speaker 14 (44:06):
Back and just since we're talking about the Super, bowl you,
know people forget That Gloria stefan showed The Super bowl
and she only sang In spanish when she performed in
The Super. Bowl but she was more palatable for those white.
Mats she was more, palatable.

Speaker 12 (44:22):
You, know she. WAS i, mean she's always been very proud.

Speaker 13 (44:25):
Of she don't president as women are fine as long
as we shaking the doing the conga and we out
there the Next, yeah she's a very she's very proud
of about being Of cuban, descent AND i will never
take that.

Speaker 12 (44:40):
Away she's very proud of Being.

Speaker 14 (44:41):
Latina but they understood her as Singing american, songs but
when she came on or The spangla, songs but when
she came to The Super, bowl she intently spoke In,
spanish but she was more palatable when you're talking about
somebody Like Bad bunny or Even. Drake they're holding the
their history, there you know WHAT i, mean the, good the,

(45:03):
good the, bad the, ugly of their, history of what
their family went, through of what their country went, through
of what their land went. Through and they're not only
expressing it in themselves every, day but also in their.
Music and they are being Those Bob dylan's of their,
time you know WHAT i, mean expressing themselves of what

(45:25):
they see from their. Perspective and but now it's not
as palatable.

Speaker 12 (45:30):
For the white.

Speaker 16 (45:31):
MEN i just.

Speaker 14 (45:33):
Know i'm, SORRY i think because white men are.

Speaker 15 (45:40):
Very threatened by that kind of, energy The, latino.

Speaker 13 (45:43):
Especially when when white women are attracted to that kind of.

Speaker 16 (45:46):
Energy see now you open.

Speaker 17 (45:49):
It now you're gonna Ste, okay you open, it you
open it. UP i just want to, say, REALLY i
just want to stay really. Quick to, ME i feel
like it's a fear of the because they don't, know
they don't. Understand so sometimes people fear what they don't,
understand or what they don't, know or what they feel
like they cannot control or, have you, know power. Over
but you know it goes back to a shout out

(46:11):
to Comedian macaron My. Boot but you Know Bob, marley
you know What i'm. SAYING i, Mean Bob marley is
an artist who everyone.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
Loves you, know.

Speaker 17 (46:20):
Whether you're all nationality is all, racist you know What i'm.
Saying and he and he had a. Message you, know
he was. Powerful people they, did they, stopped they, looked
and they, listen you know WHAT i. Mean so sometimes you,
know individuals a higher uppers they, fear you, know having
an artist such As Bad, bunny who was very influential
who people love the, music you, know and they don't understand,

(46:43):
it you know What i'm. Saying but they like you understand,
it but we don't understand. It we don't want you
to understand. It we, want like you said, earlier we
want you to go this. Direction you know IT'S i don't,
know BUT i just feel like freedom of speech and you,
know the power music is so super duper powerful and
it leads the, masses you, know so they're gonna try

(47:03):
to shut it down any type of.

Speaker 12 (47:04):
Way it's a business.

Speaker 13 (47:06):
Decisions well, no but for the Super. Bowl it's a
business decision. Period Super bowl and THE nfl over the
last few years have made a conscious effort to attract
an international. Audience they are playing regular season games In
london And ireland And.

Speaker 12 (47:24):
Brazil.

Speaker 17 (47:26):
Money Super bowl was trying to sell.

Speaker 15 (47:29):
Advertising they're trying to get commercial.

Speaker 13 (47:31):
Dollars so when The Super Bowl Entertainment, committee led by, holes,
right when when when they sit down and, say, well
who's the biggest artists in the, world and they google
or they ask CHAT, gtp the answer is, bad.

Speaker 10 (47:46):
Bunny so.

Speaker 15 (47:51):
Understand that if it was really a cultural, thing LIKE i,
mean they.

Speaker 14 (47:55):
Like they like the, controversy it's but it's about.

Speaker 16 (47:59):
The mist, Right it's about the.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Money.

Speaker 12 (48:02):
Money let's let's also be let's also be.

Speaker 14 (48:05):
Honest THE nfl halftime show did not even have a halftime,
showing did a live, broadcast and then after that they,
said you're taking the money away from, us and we
got to do our own. Entertainment we got to create
a halftime show that people don't look away because then
you know they drop and.

Speaker 12 (48:23):
Rating, so, yes it's definitely about the.

Speaker 14 (48:25):
Money but when you're also talking about Political after she
came out with Her puerto rican.

Speaker 12 (48:36):
Flat but even though again she's more, powerful.

Speaker 13 (48:40):
You, know because she's a, woman and they like looking
at the. Women they always like looking at. Us she's
they want you to be.

Speaker 10 (48:48):
Done, venus, genus your, point your point about living color
and living color doing that halftime show had escaped. Me
but that is that's a.

Speaker 16 (49:02):
FACT i didn't even know. That thank you for.

Speaker 10 (49:05):
That it's it's a it's a great fact in that
it made them may dicision.

Speaker 12 (49:11):
The Super.

Speaker 16 (49:11):
Bowl it's supposed to show you how, talented you, know,
well how, creative how, creative because if.

Speaker 10 (49:18):
The Super bowl halftime show is then putting on a
show during halftime is a Good it's potentially a good idea.

Speaker 17 (49:27):
BECAUSE i don't like, sports HONESTLY i, don't BUT i
will tune in for the halftime show and for the, commercials.

Speaker 10 (49:35):
And the halftime show is no.

Speaker 16 (49:36):
Longer you, know.

Speaker 10 (49:37):
The halftime is normally about ten, minutes fifteen, minutes but
they're going to have a half an hour, halftime which
disrupts the football. Game, basically let me ask you. This
all of you guys are aware of the world of. Copyrights.
Eric as we get closer to the Super, bowl the

(50:00):
rule goes out that you cannot use those words, together
super And. Bowld you got. It you can say the
Big game and you know they may copyright. That how
you brand a halftime show is going to be, interesting

(50:20):
this alternative halftime. Show how are they going to brand,
it how are they going to put it? Together and
if it makes some, money how many other people are
going to do it next? Year it sounds like something
that we might want a plan to do at.

Speaker 12 (50:36):
That Charlie kirk is.

Speaker 13 (50:37):
Doing but you know what's interesting is if we take
it back right before the quote unquote halftime show, existed during,
halftime they would just talk about sports and they would
give their analysis on how the game was, going and
they just were. Talking and so In Living color in
its first, season Decided Fox Fox television even or that back,

(50:58):
when back when they were building off a black Folks american.

Speaker 12 (51:01):
Story so they give it it.

Speaker 15 (51:06):
Go ahead y'all.

Speaker 13 (51:08):
To do this special twenty, minute twenty minute episode in
between the first and second half Of The. Superman they
did It Live. Yeah but guess where that idea also
probably came? From remember that at black? Colleges oh, yeah
ever since the.

Speaker 10 (51:24):
Beginning oh, yeah you're going to have.

Speaker 15 (51:26):
Time he would have the wood marching, band.

Speaker 10 (51:29):
The battle of The. Band, yeah one of my.

Speaker 14 (51:31):
Friends Because i'm only going to say this BECAUSE i
didn't go to that, school BUT i love famies marching
one hundreds.

Speaker 10 (51:37):
Right and there be, People so Again i'm.

Speaker 15 (51:40):
Saying that even when they protest and get mad about
what is.

Speaker 10 (51:44):
Authentic don't move so quickly from don't move so. Quickly
let's dwell on. That on the historically black college halftime
at the football there are people who stayed in the
parking lot during the game and went into the game
only for the halftime and go back to the parking

(52:07):
lot for the. Party the biggest, aspect the biggest challenge
to black college football was the black college bands at.
Halftime and and thank you for reminding me. There so
the creativity of it, needs it needs to bubble. Up
it needs to be appreciated the more you see. It

(52:29):
AND i can understand why people who are quote unquote
in charge are afraid of this new creativity because it
takes it shows people that there are that there are
other lanes leading to the same place that you're trying to,
go and that there is no need for you to

(52:49):
be standing in the middle of the desert in one way,
way one, lane looking at one person knows to, nose
and both of them are, saying get out of my,
way and there's no one around. Them it's too easy
to create another. Route and that's WHAT i think is
important in this, messaging is that where we want to,

(53:12):
go what we want to do with our, lives what
we want to have happen for our, children is not
required to take place in the lanes that have been
described by those who would like to suppress. Us we
have demonstrated constantly for over four hundred, years for thousands of,

(53:34):
years that we can get there without anyone's, permission simply
by Taking god's inspiration and understanding the power of creativity
and deciding to move in a, direction we can get.

(53:54):
There and once AGAIN i know, venus when you are
out in your community, development in our political shout to pull.
Together that has got to be the, message because now
they are constantly trying to divide in. Conquerors in the
case of my most brilliant com man That i've ever,

(54:19):
seen either IN tv or in the movies or IN. W. C,
fields who, said at, first there's a fool born every
minute we have the ability to look the other way
and Create we do not have to be distracted by
those things that really are simply interesting but not. Important

(54:43):
one of the things we have to discern and understand
is that we are always going to be approached by
things that are, interesting but it's up to us to
decide what's. Important and at my, point in my point in,
life what is important is just like in a relay,
race it isn't really how fast the runners. Run the

(55:05):
thing that determines the winner in most cases on a
relay race is how well do they pass the. Baton
and today is an example of me doing my best
to pass the baton to WHAT i see as the
best of the runners THAT i am associated and aware.

(55:27):
Of you guys are powerful, people all three of, you very.
Powerful all three of.

Speaker 16 (55:33):
You you, Appreciate you appreciate all that you.

Speaker 10 (55:35):
Do all three of you have a direction and goals
that are not going to be disrupted simply because of
some flashing lights or someone else having a big, ring
a big diamond, ring the flash in front of, you
or a big car that suggests that come go with.
Me every one of, you every one of, you THAT

(55:57):
i would take your own little ragged car in order
to be in charge of where you want to, go
as opposed to letting some big apparently super duper anything
come and take you off. Course And god bless you for.
That And god has blessed me to know you and

(56:19):
know that you are of that. Caliber oh this is
this is a thank you for joining me on the.
Show thank you for giving a. Direction AND i invite
you to come back without an. Invitation what do you
feel it just.

Speaker 12 (56:33):
Just you could just show up Next.

Speaker 10 (56:35):
Sunday you could just show, up, well he, said he,
said it, Will, yes it.

Speaker 17 (56:42):
WILL i could held.

Speaker 10 (56:46):
Yes but before we, go, yes, Uh lou has an
event and we want tell us about you really quick.

Speaker 17 (56:52):
Summary you, know we are working looking for committee members
for the sixth Annual Doctor Martin luther King On. Parade that's,
Happening Sam. Borgardino please check out The Southern California Black
chamber Of commerce for more information about that At Black
Chamber commerce dot. Org and then Our unity In Diversity
Business summit is this.

Speaker 16 (57:11):
Week thank you for the. PLATFORM i appreciate you and
it's great to beat.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
You.

Speaker 16 (57:15):
Queens was y'all was GETTING i?

Speaker 17 (57:19):
NEEDED i need to have a zoom.

Speaker 12 (57:21):
Class, yes teach.

Speaker 13 (57:23):
Me, no you need to make a trip To, miami
and you need to bring the romatics with.

Speaker 17 (57:28):
You stop playing Because i'll bring.

Speaker 16 (57:31):
Them we'll know we're not.

Speaker 17 (57:33):
Playing, okay so CAN I let's make that.

Speaker 16 (57:36):
Happen let's let's make that.

Speaker 12 (57:38):
Happen, yes let's make it.

Speaker 16 (57:41):
Happen, okay, okay all.

Speaker 10 (57:43):
RIGHT i want to remind, people or not, remind but
tell people that we are planning An empire Talks Back Happy.
Hour it is a schedule for Next. Monday we may
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Speaker 16 (58:22):
Face, yes your, daughter that's what she's. Doing she's doing
the right.

Speaker 13 (58:26):
Thing EVERYTHING i do, WELL i get it from my.
Day anything you don't, like you might have to call you.

Speaker 12 (58:33):
Better your Money.

Speaker 10 (58:36):
I'm in.

Speaker 16 (58:37):
Trouble, yes you, said you.

Speaker 10 (58:39):
Guys are supposed to Be you guys were supposed to
you guys were supposed to remind me to talk About Ruthie's.
Jewels that Is mischie's grandmother's, book and it is an
Amazing it is an amazing tale of a woman who
grew up in circumstances that were not the. Best she

(59:00):
grew up in the Racist South, mississippi in a little
the Macomb, mississippi seven miles out Of, macombe and all
seven of those were on dirt. Road but she lived
on a farm where they had good food and people
came to. Eat my, Grandpa my, grandpa her father made
the greatest whiskey in the in the. Area. Wow but you, guys.

(59:21):
Listen Ruth stevens grew up in a time and a
place where the seeds of, kindness, stability and caring were
planted by her parents and shaped by the expressions of her.
Life her book is Called Ruthie's. Jewels Check, amazon get the,

(59:42):
book buy the. Book i'll do better next. Yeek oh,
yeah that's my. Mama She's she's.

Speaker 13 (59:50):
The other.

Speaker 16 (59:51):
Day so much.

Speaker 10 (59:52):
Wisdom, listen, GUYS i appreciate you sparing your time with.
ME i appreciate you giving the world your energy because
it's the the only way it will become a better.
Place it is an improving place because of what you.
Do thank you so, Much, eric wonderful, job Mood. Master
you are the mood. Master
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

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