KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen (Sun, 19 Oct, 2025)

KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 19 Oct, 2025

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All right, that sounds real good. There, my brother, that's
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I'm Wallace Allen here on the case for truth, justice
with the right information to help improve the situation. Today's
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very special communicators. They cross bend and break culture barriers.
They speak truth to power. They make observations that are
not limited by our physical abilities or social and political restrictions.
They are as free as the win. They are our

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window into what could be heroes, and she rose that
mark our generations. Lewis Armstrong, Billie Holiday, John Coltrane, Sam Cook,
Ella Fitzgerald, Curtis Mayfield, James Brown, Diana Ross, Michael Jackson,
Smokey Robinson, Jimmy Hendrix, Bob Marty, Betty Wright, Beyonce, and

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on and on and on. We love them all. We
love the ones that I haven't mentioned. They bring us together.
Today's political atmosphere has pushed many contemporary artists to make
political statements. TV hosts Jimmy Kimmel comes to mind, not

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because of the death of his statements, but because of
the reaction to the statements. In a similar vein the
announcement that international superstar Bad Bunny will be the halftime
entertainer for the Super Bowl, that has evoked a truly
next level response from the TT tribe. That's tt that's

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Trump tribe. The tts hate the idea of the Portterrie
Can superstar performing is Spanish, performing in Spanish. They hate
it so much that the haters are organizing their own
halftime show. I'm impressed by their creativity and I support

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their right to express it. However, I do have some questions.
I'm not gonna spend all of the show asking questions
about them, but I am going to spend a lot
of time talking about us and what we can do
about it. But I do wonder is the NFL going
to endorse or allow them to use the word super

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Bowl interesting? Interesting? How are they going to brand it?
Will they stream it live for free? Who will be
the entertainers, and who will sponsor all of That's not
really that's interesting, but it's not really important. What I
really wonder is how many people will take Bad Bunnies

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challenge to learn to speak Spanish understand Spanish by the
Super Bowl halftime show. Now, from what I understand, there
are many language and the language teachers out there that
are making special offers to allow that to happen. But

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I know that living here in Southern California, one of
the things that makes no sense to me, And I'm
as guilty as the people that I want to talk to.
But we are in southern California were actually living in
Mexico according to the Sanadalgo Treaty, and part of that
treaty stated that we would always be a dual language

(15:46):
reaching at the very least. But you know how treaties
have been treated here by those who speak with the
four tongue, but at the same time, just for the
sake of being able to get along and understand it
larger our brain cavity with our brain speaking Spanish seems

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to be a very natural movement for us to make.
But anyway, I can understand the fear that it makes
for those who are biased and racists who are trying
to deliver white supremacy as a statement from God that
the idea of people who are non white coming together

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is supposed to being divided and conquered. Causes a fear
to those people. Whether or not that fear is justified,
I don't know, because I don't know really what they're
afraid of. I do know their position of desired superiority

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is one that will not last. I can understand it.
We all like to be in charge. We all like
to get the biggest swiece of chicken. We like to
think that the world is all about us. As we
mature in life, we find that it's not a good
life if we don't have other people that we care
about that we love that we share our lives with.

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So we're gonna spend a little time today talking with
some special people who are in the realm of artistry,
either performing or managing, or involved some type of way
in appreciating the work of others. And among that group
is let me introduce him now. One we'll have Mishwa

(17:32):
Alan Murray. Whether she's consulting behind the scenes or creating
on center stage, Misha Alan Murphy embodies the belief that
culture is a calling and she answers it with faith, creativity,
and purpose. She is a creative entrepreneur and spiritual influencer

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whose work bridges entertainment, empowerment and culture legacy. As an
independent consultant, MISSIP partners with legacy music catalogs, established artist
and rising talent, offering creative direction, strategic insight, and culturally
grounded guidance. She is also the co founder of eight

(18:19):
seven six Records and founder of two lifestyle brands, One
Jam Socks, a bold Jamaican inspired sock line, and One
Life Live Lit, an online boutique that celebrates vibrant international living.

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She's joined by Venetia Fernandez Lovely, the dynamic leader community
Strategists strategist, lifelong advocate for civic engagement and the arts,
and proud Afro Latina with over thirty six years of

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experienced driving community based initiatives. Form from being a member
of the Coconut Grove Children's Theater, working in the Florida Legislature,
during which time she created Dominican on the Capitol, which
transforms into Dominicans on the Hill, to co founding kayla Q,

(19:25):
I'm gonna have She's gonna have to show me how
to pronounce that I'm oh Papa, but she has a
wonderful podcast and Black Tino Is. Most recently, the name
Venus stepped even further into public service, running for office
and winning the seat of Community Councilwoman this past August

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in Miami Dade County. Born in Brooklyn, raised in Miami,
with Southern roots and Dominican roots, Venus carries a legacy
of service as the daughter of former New York Dominican
consult Consul General Francisco Fernando. Her work continues to uplift

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and empower communities across South Florida and here in the
studio with me is Missus lou Dowdy of Loo Productions.
She is a producer, a performer, the founder of Loop Productions.
She's involved in artist management and development. And all three
of these young, lovely young ladies are quite capable of

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leading us out of the confused world of where should
I go? What should I do? Can I get some milk?
We're going to take a short break, and when I
come back, we'll get a chance to talk to these
experts in life despite their young age, these inspirations for others,
these guiding lights for those of us whose eyes are

(20:56):
getting dim. We'll be right back. This is Empire Talks Back.
I'm Wallace on the case for truth and justice with
the right information to help improve the situation. Take it away, Eric.

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Speaker 10 (22:04):
All right, we are back. This is IMPI talks back
on Wallace Allen. I usually am able to visualize what
the show is going to be like as I let
my head hit the pillow of the night before. But
today I've got at least two scorpios on the on
the lines where this's Miss lewis one and miss yeah

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and and miss Mischa is the other. Venus, what is
your astrological situation?

Speaker 16 (22:34):
Yes, very much.

Speaker 10 (22:36):
She's what a capricorn? Okay, so we've got somebody holding
the earth down in good shape, and uh my Pisces
wandering here will somehow allow uh at least me to
swim through these these wonderful waters that are available to us.
Miss Venus, I kind of I kind of botched up

(23:00):
a couple of things in your intro. What did I say? That?
Major shoulders kind of raised up and say, oh, Papa,
you did it wrong? What did I do?

Speaker 6 (23:09):
So?

Speaker 10 (23:09):
What did I say? Did? I? And I did not
pronounce your podcast correctly? I'm sure of that, tell Us
about your podcast.

Speaker 17 (23:16):
Well, my podcast is called oh no.

Speaker 10 (23:19):
Wonder I didn't get that right. I have not been
taking my Spanish lessons. Say that again. That sounds great, Okay,
hell okay.

Speaker 17 (23:28):
Yeah, as a proble Dominican, that's one of our ways
of saying welcome and you know what's up. So the
podcast is kell ok and it was started over five
years ago, and it was a way to highlight Dominicans
because at least in a lot of spaces that I've
been in, they're always surprised by that they're Dominicans in

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these spaces or surprised that there are Dominicans doing such
amazing things.

Speaker 16 (23:55):
So all we do.

Speaker 17 (23:56):
It's not a political it's just about highlighting my culture,
my community, and the people that impact and has impacted
not only Dominicans in Dominican Republic, but also the Dominicans
that here that live in the United States.

Speaker 18 (24:13):
South Florida because guess what, every brown person in South
Florida is not cut very much true in South Florida television.

Speaker 17 (24:22):
We have we have Ecuadorian, we have Nicaraguan, we have
people from Belize, we have every culture, Peru. Uh, there's
a whole continent called South America. But because I live
in South Florida, especially in Miami Miami Dade County. Uh,
they assume me because I speak Spanish, that I must
be Cuban descent.

Speaker 16 (24:43):
But I'm a very proud child of my dad, which.

Speaker 17 (24:48):
Was born in the Dominican Republic and my grandmother on
my mother's side, which was also from the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 10 (24:54):
So so we.

Speaker 16 (24:56):
Have Florida is a big old melting pot, very much.

Speaker 10 (25:00):
So let me ask you. Let me ask you, as
a melting pot liver in a it's a resident of
a melting pot. Is the heat enough to actually melt
and meil these people of color together? Or is the
divide and conquer syndrome of the supremacist operating.

Speaker 18 (25:25):
To if it's a party, if it's a carnival, If
it's party, we all outside, well, it means it is
carnival weekend here.

Speaker 16 (25:34):
So I will say that we have come together.

Speaker 17 (25:37):
But if you're talking about politically, it's it's a little
hard to say. But I must start off with saying,
like you have to understand the history of Florida. People
forget that Florida is a southern state. And when I
say that it is not just by the end of
the South, but a lot of things historically that happened

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to the black and brown community was started here. And
we even had at one point a flag that was
considered in the state of Florida that said let us alone.
So right there, it kind of tells you that Florida's
very different. And the city of Miami was actually founded
by a Bahamian, Yes, a Bahamian woman. So I know

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that in the rest of the country, especially right now,
there are these people who have these assumptions about the
state of Florida.

Speaker 16 (26:28):
Because of the current government of Florida.

Speaker 18 (26:31):
But quite frankly, to assume that all of the people
in the state of Florida are represented by the government
of Florida would be like assuming that all of the
people in the United States of America are represented by
the current American government.

Speaker 10 (26:48):
And well, do you know you know what occurs? Yes, well,
before I get into that, let me introduce you guys,
Miss Lou Dowdy.

Speaker 16 (26:58):
It's Lou.

Speaker 10 (26:59):
How are you this morning?

Speaker 11 (27:00):
I'm well, I'm well, high ladies.

Speaker 10 (27:02):
She is. She's at California Scorpio, Miss Lou. As they've
stated their position in Miami and trying to straighten out
the impressions one may have of Florida. Did they give
you any new view on what's going on? Or does
this sound pretty familiar to what you may know or
imagine I am in Florida.

Speaker 19 (27:23):
Well, you know, honestly speaking, I can't really speak to
Florida because I don't know much about Florida. I do
have an auntie though shout out on Cookie.

Speaker 11 (27:31):
Live in Florida.

Speaker 19 (27:32):
But I really don't know much about Florida, so I
can't even speak to that. Okay, Well, you know, don't
speak to nothing or nothing you don't know about, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (27:40):
But I'm listening and I'm learning so well.

Speaker 10 (27:43):
There's a song that says, I don't know much about
his Sturvey, but we have a lot of people who
speak on his street, some of her running the country.
Matter of fact, I've got one person and I say
that I wasn't gonna talk about it, but you know
I was lying. Who historically trying to upgrade or downgrade

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his understanding of the Civil War, has decided that he
wants to put back all of these statues. And the
main statue I'm objecting to is that of Robert E. Lee,
the man who caused so many conscientious white people to
die in the Civil War as they fought and tried

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to figure out who's supposed to wipe who's behind I
And I'm really disappointed about how these people are so
confused about what's right and what's wrong, and especially since
Christianity is the flag that they all want to fly.
So I'm not going to run off in that direction

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too often, but I'm never going to leave that seat
where I'm concerned about what we say religiously and how
we act in reality religiously, I think I go back
to and love that thought that we're all created equal.
I do like the idea that God painted us differently
and gives us the opportunity to look at each other

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and make comparisons and decide how much we can love
the differences that we provide, because the different views that
we have are the things that allow us to have
a complete understanding of this big cookie that is in between.
It's not meaning your aunt cookie, but cookie that we're

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looking at. You know, some are looking at it from
the bottom, some from the side, some from the top,
and sometimes we get confused. Some think it's a doughnut.
Some think it's a cake, some think that is. It's
some but it's all ours when we understand that what
you see helps me see completely what I think I see, and.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
I love it. Looking through just one lens is not
going to get it.

Speaker 10 (29:56):
No, no, no, it just confuses us and makes us slops.
And you know, it's like looking at God. You know,
we think we know God and we're actually looking at
his toll, and somebody else is looking at his elbow,
and somebody else thinks they know all about God because
they see the top of his head. We need each
other to see completely what's between us so that we

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can understand. This is why I'm a little enthused about
Bad Bunny. I'll have to admit, you know, I have
not downloaded any of his music. That's you know, I
don't know if that's it's not problem it's not problematic
to brown to Bad Bunny because he's doing well. But

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I do have to say, I guess that's a position
that I share with our president and some of the
other Trumpites in that who is bad Bunny I ain't
never heard of? But from my standpoint, I never listened
to a lot of Taylor Swift, but I know she
did well on the Super Bowl. I know Beyonce looks,

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looks and smells wonderful, But I have to say I
haven't heard of I have not listened to a lot
of you know, Beyonce. I grew up and have nieces
and nephews and children who grew up with Michael Jackson.
And you know. I know I'm bad, and I know
a few other pieces, but I can appreciate the things

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that I don't know when they're put in front of me.
Gives me an opportunity to improve and dissolve a level
of my ignorance. So I'm looking really forward to seeing
more about Bad Bunny. I'm really looking forward to it
because I understand that he performs in non English. I heard.

(31:45):
I did look up enough to know that he says,
I don't necessarily perform in Spanish, but I definitely don't
perform in English non English. That's that's creative. I'd like
to know from your perspectives, because all three of you
ladies are involved in inspiring people, which means you have

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to understand where they are first. You have to listen
to where they want to go. You have to use
your intellect of where the roads are that you know
that lead to places as you help people do what
they do. Miss Lou, you are in the artist development
and management business, as is Mishra, and certainly Venus is

(32:29):
involved in getting people to vote, to understand why they vote,
and all of those things are that's part of the
motive that makes America work. So tell me how you
feel about the influence that artists have. Is that critical?
Is that important? Why do you do what you do?

(32:52):
Miss Lou?

Speaker 19 (32:53):
Well, thank you for having me on your platform. Must
again Lou with Lou Productions. I it's extremely important I
feel you're saying for artists to have a to be
able to have a platform, and to be able to
express themselves.

Speaker 11 (33:10):
I'm sorry, was that the question? Can you repeat the question?

Speaker 10 (33:12):
No?

Speaker 11 (33:13):
I repeat the question. I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (33:16):
My question is just to inspire you to speak about
how important the art is, how important it is for
artists to be free enough to say what they need
to say, and how the guidance that comes from people
like you is.

Speaker 11 (33:33):
Artistry is important. It's a self it's self expression.

Speaker 19 (33:37):
You know, we you know, Creator gave us all gifts
and talents, you know, and those who in my opinion,
are in the in the artistry, realm of world or whatnot.
They have to get it off, you know what I mean.
You know, you can't stay bottled in. It's just like
freedom of speech. It's the same thing with artists, you know,
freedom of expression, whether you sing, whether you dance, whether
you like the mood Master over here. You know, he's

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expressing hisself right now, you know, through his artistry. And
I think it's very important, you know, to be you,
you know, to be authentic, you know, and not to
be censor to a certain extent.

Speaker 10 (34:13):
You know.

Speaker 19 (34:13):
Now if it's to the point to where you're hurting
or having people harmed, then you know. But I feel
like artists should be able to be able to be themselves,
you know, because that's where're gonna get the best out
of the artists, when they're able to let go and
be themselves and have free expression.

Speaker 10 (34:29):
Uh, miss, miss, How do you feel about that question
or the answers to that and why do you do
what you do in the realm of music and art?

Speaker 18 (34:40):
Well, I think, first and foremost, I was born doing it.
I was born watching my parents do it. I was
born watching my father be a poet. I was born
watching my mother paint and then sing, and I think
also as a mother, what I reckon nice is that

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expression and creativity is a part of who we all
are spiritual. It's just that there are some people who
articulate who they are better than others. And so the
reason why art is important, the reason why music is important.

Speaker 16 (35:18):
Is because.

Speaker 18 (35:21):
It comes from a place that actually exists in all
of us, the.

Speaker 16 (35:25):
Same way that we are all spiritual beings.

Speaker 18 (35:27):
And so one of the things that I've always said
is that I noticed that a song can articulate something
that I don't have the words in the language to
express what I'm feeling, you know. September eleventh was very
interesting because as an impact, the situation was.

Speaker 16 (35:46):
So deep on so many levels.

Speaker 18 (35:48):
To watch and regardless of the fact that I grew
up my first two albums were Mickey and the Beanstaw
and The Jackson Vibe, so I.

Speaker 16 (35:57):
Grew up, you know, a music.

Speaker 18 (36:00):
And then obviously I spent some time in Nashville, so
I love country music, but I wasn't familiar with Alan
Jackson in that way. But six days after September eleventh,
when the first program that came on was.

Speaker 16 (36:12):
I think was a CMAS.

Speaker 18 (36:13):
It was an award show, and this man literally sat
there with his guitar, this Southern white man, and basically
said where were you? And the world stt turning, and
he said, I'm just a singer of simple songs. I'm
not a real political man. I watched CNN, but I
don't think I can tell you the difference between Irock
and Iran. But I know Jesus and I talked to God,
and I remember this from when I was young. Faith, hope,

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and love are some good things he gave us, and
the greatest is loved. That didn't require being a Democrat
or Republican. It didn't even require being an American. It
required an access to who each of us are as
spiritual beings. And so to me, art is an expression
of his spirit. And it is at its best when

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you know who you are and you're expressing who you are.
But the thing about it is also when you don't
know who you are, but you just know what you're
surrounded by. A good artist will express that too, and
you have to have the freedom to do all of
it because the perspective that that particular artist may have

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is one that maybe I don't have.

Speaker 16 (37:20):
Because I don't live in what he lives in.

Speaker 18 (37:22):
You know, when when NWA came out and it was
a type of rap that everybody said, well, wait a minute,
this is not. This is not parents, don't understand what
are y'all doing. This is not It was someone's perspective,
jazz or someone's perspective. Music is the language that everyone speaks,
whether we have the exact same speaking language or not.

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That's why Bad Bunny can be the most streamed artists
in the world, even in countries where they speak French,
where they speak, Portuguese, where they speak because yeah, it's
the energy in the music and and so that's that's
one of the reasons why the arts get attacked.

Speaker 16 (38:03):
Even doing that since the Renaissance. Well that's what that's
normally what I was going to say.

Speaker 17 (38:08):
It's like, you know, even when people think about Bad
Bunny and I'm just because we were talking about Bad Bunny,
you know, people forget again. I'm always like, you've got
to know your history, so you know where you're going.
You know, Greggaetone music, which is what he primarily sings,
come from Afro beats, comes from the Caribbean beats comes

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from all of that, and they started off just like
anything else, it was to talk about what we shouldn't
be talking about. It's a way of sliding these conversations
in to talk about what we're feeling, what we're going through.
That does that always kind of in many ways allowed
us to express ourselves either via dance, via songs.

Speaker 16 (38:54):
And you know, bad Bunny, you.

Speaker 17 (38:56):
Know, you know, look as an Afro athena that bunny.

Speaker 16 (39:01):
People forget that. Yes he's Puerto Rican, a proud.

Speaker 17 (39:04):
Porto Rican born, but he's American because the United States
took over that country. So for them to say that
he cannot perform on a platform like that is and
why ignorance and why people don't understand.

Speaker 16 (39:20):
It's like you don't. There's a lot of music that I.

Speaker 17 (39:22):
Can't I can't say that I understand, but emotionally, my
body reacts to it because it's it's an emotion, it's
a it's a feeling, it's a sensation.

Speaker 10 (39:34):
Let me jump in, Let me jump in.

Speaker 16 (39:37):
I feel like it needs to be.

Speaker 10 (39:39):
Let me jump in on that statement about emotion in
their political campaigns, And this is where I'm gonna jump
get you to speak again, Miss Venus. In their political campaign,
there's usually a lot of music played before the speeches
are done are brought on. We've had incidents where people

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artists have asked politicians to not use their music. There's
politicians who have you excuse me, who've used music that
is there to emotionally charge up the crowd. Ms Venus says,
you've done rallies and stuff. Have you used music? Have

(40:23):
you not used music to do the same thing?

Speaker 12 (40:26):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (40:26):
Constantly, constantly, you know, when we are I.

Speaker 16 (40:29):
Mean that is part of a strategy. You know, when
we think.

Speaker 17 (40:33):
About when we're going into certain communities, you know, I mean,
when we think about opening doors and certain you know,
for candidates to speak to that community.

Speaker 16 (40:44):
That is part of the strategy. Who's gonna come?

Speaker 17 (40:47):
I mean, I can speak more about Miami right now.
But when they intentionally say, oh, let's reach out to
Klup or Trick Daddy or Nikki jan because they have
the of the ear. When you see Jennifer Lopez Anthony,
you know what I mean, when you see Barber Streisan,
those are one Let's be honest, you are gonna get

(41:11):
a dinner.

Speaker 16 (41:11):
Graphic that you're targeting. Let me by with growing up.

Speaker 17 (41:17):
You know, you think about your past, how can I
move the crowd?

Speaker 16 (41:20):
And then when you think of yes, how can I
move the crowd?

Speaker 10 (41:24):
How can I move the crowd?

Speaker 16 (41:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (41:27):
How can I move the crowd? Let me ask a
thought that you guys have just made race across my
forehead here, as we are concerned as they are concerned
about They say they're concerned about Bad Bunny not speaking
and singing in English. Maybe they're concerned about Bad Bunny

(41:51):
being such an attraction that he may cause some of
the normal normally attracted to the conservative side of things.
If they are exposed to Bad Bunny, maybe they would

(42:11):
start being a little more sensitive to some of the
things that Bad Bunny represents. Maybe that's why people who
don't like the idea of Bad Bunny performing at the
super Bowl, where he will have opportunity to not speak
to the same people, not just the same people that

(42:32):
he's been speaking to, but to a new group of
people who could be moved to jump the fence, to
cross over, to start asking questions, to want to mingle
and hang out with the group of people who are
Bad Bunny heightes.

Speaker 11 (42:56):
Man alive.

Speaker 10 (42:57):
Maybe they just don't Maybe they just don't want that
influence of soul being injected into these Uh it's.

Speaker 11 (43:08):
Like to me, it's like anything.

Speaker 19 (43:09):
It's just like when the whole Kendle Ofmar last year
with the kendlu Mar. Some then want kendred Lamar because
it was too political, and that.

Speaker 10 (43:17):
Was Drake that didn't want I'm just I'm not like us.
Let you guys know that I do know a little bit,
but no, you're the opposition, the opposition. I think the
first time I read it was, oh my goodness, Uh
the artist. I'm not going to spend time letting you

(43:40):
know how bad my memory is. But what he said
on his record cover in the liner notes was I
want to thank all of my friends who supported me,
but most importantly, I want to thank those people who
resisted me, because in your resistance I was able to
find my strength to go forward. So this is where

(44:03):
we grow. This is where we are able to actually
make strides, not by continuing to talk to those who
understand us, those who support us, those who are cheering
for us, but to talk to those who are in wonderment,
those who don't know us, those who in some cases

(44:26):
are coming to the floor thinking that they are against us,
but being able to hear this music, to feel this beat,
to understand the humanity that can take place outside of
your little wall or your little perceived yard of what
should be. This is what Public Enemy did as you

(44:50):
spoke about them. This is what rap music did to
white people while black parents were saying, what are you
guys doing? Pull your pants up? What are you talking?
I can about stop cursey. Meanwhile, when you pulled into
the gas station and heard loud music in the car bumping,

(45:10):
you look over there expecting to see some black guy,
and you look over you see a little white girl, you know,
bumping and leaning to carrying on because that music is
that way. Maybe that's what they're in. Did you call
me daddy? Did you call me? Did you just call
me daddy on the radio?

Speaker 11 (45:29):
That's a different show.

Speaker 10 (45:33):
But that is my daughter. Let me say this, let
me let me give a discorsi. That is my daughter. No, No,
don't first name me either. You go get.

Speaker 16 (45:47):
You.

Speaker 11 (45:47):
It's gonna be a call after the show.

Speaker 10 (45:53):
I'm sorry, miss go ahead.

Speaker 16 (46:00):
One good to say.

Speaker 18 (46:02):
Is, and I think it's important is that before there
was rap music, there was also there were a bunch
of white kids gathering and people like Simon and Garfbunkal
and people like Peter Paul and Mary and people like
Bob Dylan also speaking because they're just as you have.

Speaker 16 (46:22):
Culture is not just about race.

Speaker 18 (46:26):
Sometimes there are different cultures and things that are happening generationally. Yes,
And the thing that's interesting about the times that we
live in right now is that we're also dealing with
generational like age type cultures. Because you have this group
of old white men who want to see this country

(46:47):
a certain way and they are kind of insisting that
they're gonna make it look like that no matter what.
And what's happening is that young people of all backgrounds
who have had these last couple generations of not being
separate because of the Internet, because of YouTube, because of sports,

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because of all these things.

Speaker 16 (47:11):
There, You're right, you're gonna see just as.

Speaker 18 (47:13):
Many young people who are supposed to be more like
Baron Trump, you know, and they're gonna be out there
dancing about bad Bunny. That I believe is what they
may be afraid of, because they're trying to create this
impression that there's this separation and that the separation is wanted,
and that the separation is distinct.

Speaker 17 (47:37):
But look at Saturday night, I see where you're going.
But you know me, you also have to go back.
And just since we're talking about the Super Bowl, you know,
people forget that Gloria Stefan showed the Super Bowl and
she only sang in Spanish when she performed in the
Super Bowl. But she was more palatable for those way
she was more palatable, you know, she was.

Speaker 16 (48:00):
I mean, she's always been very.

Speaker 18 (48:01):
Proud of the present as women are fine as long
as we shaking them doing the conga and and we
out there the next Yeah, she's a very she's very
proud of about being of Cuban descent, and I will
never take that away.

Speaker 17 (48:16):
She's very proud of being Latina. But they understood her
as singing American songs, but when she came on or
the Spangla songs, but when she came to the Super Bowl,
she intently spoke in Spanish.

Speaker 16 (48:29):
But she was more palatable.

Speaker 17 (48:31):
When you're talking about somebody like Bad Bunny or even Drake,
they're holding their history, their you know what I mean,
the good, the good, the bad, the ugly, of their history,
of what their family went through, of what their country
went through, of what their land went through and they're
not only expressing it in themselves every day, but also

(48:52):
in their music. And they are being those Bob Dylan's
of their time, you know what I mean, expressing them
of what they see from their perspective. And but now
it's not as palatable for the white man, right.

Speaker 16 (49:09):
I just I'm sorry.

Speaker 18 (49:15):
Because white men are very threatened by that kind of energy,
especially when when white women are attracted to that kind
of energy.

Speaker 11 (49:23):
See now you open it, now you're going something. Okay,
you open it, open it. I just want to say, really,
I just want to stay really quick.

Speaker 19 (49:32):
To me, I feel like it's's a fear of the
because they don't know, they don't understand. So sometimes people
fear what they don't understand or what they don't know,
or what they feel like they cannot control or have,
you know, power over. But you know it goes back
to shout out to comedian Macarome my boot. But you know,
Bob Marley, you know what I'm saying. I mean, Bob

(49:53):
Marley is an artist who everyone loves. You know, whether
you're all nationality is all racist, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (50:00):
And he he had a message, you know, he.

Speaker 19 (50:01):
Was powerful people they did, they stopped, they looked, and
they listen, you know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (50:06):
So sometimes you know, individuals are higher uppers.

Speaker 19 (50:09):
They fear, you know, having an artist such as Bad Bunny,
who was very influential who people love the music, you know,
and they don't understand it, you know what I'm saying.
But they like you understand it, but we don't understand that.
We don't want you to understand it. We want, like
you said earlier, we want you to go this direction.
You know, it's I don't know, but I just feel

(50:30):
like freedom of speech. And you know the power of
music is so super duper powerful and it leads the masses,
you know, so they're going to try to shut it
down any type of way.

Speaker 16 (50:42):
Decision.

Speaker 18 (50:44):
Well, no, but for the super Bowl, it's a business
decision period.

Speaker 16 (50:49):
Super Bowl and the.

Speaker 18 (50:50):
NFL over the last few years have made a conscious
effort to attract an international audience. They are playing regular
season games in London and i and Brazil.

Speaker 11 (51:02):
Money, she said, business.

Speaker 18 (51:04):
Super Bowl was trying to sell advertising. They're trying to
get commercial dollars. So when the Super Bowl Entertainment Committee,
led by holes right, when when when they sit down
and say, well, who's the biggest artists in the world,
and they google or they ask chat GTP, the answer
is bad money. It's so so understand that if it

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was really a cultural thing, like I mean, they like,
they like the controversy, it's but.

Speaker 11 (51:34):
It's about the right, it's about the money. Money.

Speaker 16 (51:38):
Let's let's also be let's also be honest.

Speaker 17 (51:41):
The NFL halftime show did not even have a halftime
show and did a live broadcast and then after that
they said, you're taking the money away from us, and
we got to do our own entertainment. We got to
create a halftime show that people don't look away because
then you know, they drop. And so, yes, it's definitely
about the money. But when you're also talking about political.

Speaker 16 (52:10):
After she came out with her Puerto Rican.

Speaker 11 (52:12):
Flat but even though.

Speaker 18 (52:15):
She's more powerful, you know, because she's a woman, and
they like looking at them, They always like looking at us.
She's they want you to be.

Speaker 10 (52:25):
Venus jenus, your your point, your point about living color
and living color during that halftime show had escaped me.
But yeah, that is a that's a fact.

Speaker 11 (52:39):
I didn't even know that. Thank you for that.

Speaker 10 (52:41):
It's a it's a it's a great fact in that
it made them match the super Bowl.

Speaker 19 (52:48):
It's to show you how talented, you know, created, how creative.

Speaker 10 (52:53):
Because the Super Bowl halftime show is then putting on
a show during halftime is a good It is potentially
a good.

Speaker 19 (53:03):
Idea because I don't like sports, honestly I don't, but
I will tune in for the halftime show and for
the commercials.

Speaker 10 (53:11):
And the halftime show is no longer. You know, the
halftime is normally about ten minutes fifteen minutes, but they're
going to have a half an hour halftime which disrupts
the football game. Basically, let me ask you this. All
of you guys are aware of the world of copyrights. Eric.

(53:32):
As we get closer to the Super Bowl, the rule
goes out that you cannot use those words together super
and Bowl. You got to you can say the Big Game,
and you know they may crite copyright that. How you
brand a halftime show is going to be interesting, This

(53:57):
alternative halftime show. How they're going to brand, how are
they going to put it together? And if it makes
the money, how many other people are going to do
it next year? It sounds like something that we might
want a plan to do alternative.

Speaker 16 (54:12):
That Charlie Kirk is doing.

Speaker 18 (54:13):
But you know what's interesting is if we take it
back right before the quote unquote halftime show existed, during halftime,
they would just talk about sports and they.

Speaker 16 (54:23):
Would give their analysis on how the game was going.
And they just were talking.

Speaker 18 (54:27):
And so in Living Color in its first season, decided
Fox Fox Television believe it or that back when they
were back when they were building it off of black
voats a story.

Speaker 11 (54:38):
So they give it go ahead, y'ab.

Speaker 16 (54:44):
They decided to do.

Speaker 18 (54:45):
This special twenty minute, twenty minute episode in between the
first and second half of The Superman and they did
it Live Yeah. But guess where that idea also probably
came from? Remember that at black colleges?

Speaker 10 (54:59):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, you're going to halftime marching band,
the Battle of the Band. Yeah, my friends.

Speaker 17 (55:08):
Because I'm only going to say this because I didn't
go to that school, but I love famies.

Speaker 16 (55:12):
Marching one hundred.

Speaker 18 (55:14):
And there be people, So again I'm saying that, even
when they protest and get mad about what.

Speaker 10 (55:19):
Is, don't move so quickly. Don't move so quickly. Let's
dwell on that on the historically black college halftime at
the football. There are people who stayed in the parking
lot during the game and went into the game only

(55:40):
for the halftime and go back to the parking lot
for the party. The biggest aspect, the biggest challenge to
black college football was the black college bands at halftime
and and and thank you for reminding me there. So
the creativity of it needs to bubble up. It needs

(56:03):
to be appreciated the more you see it. And I
can understand why people who are quote unquote in charge
are afraid of this new creativity because it takes it
shows people that they are that there are other lanes
leading to the same place that you're trying to go,

(56:23):
and that there is no need for you to be
standing in the middle of the desert in one way
way one lane, looking at one person knows to nose
and both of them are saying, get out of my way,
and there's no one around them. It's too easy to
create another route. And that's what I think is important

(56:44):
in this messaging is that where we want to go,
what we want to do with our lives, what we
want to have happen for our children, is not required
to take place in the lanes that have been described
by those who would like to suppress us. We have

(57:05):
demonstrated constantly for over four hundred years, for thousands of years,
that we can get there without anyone's permission. Simply by
taking God's inspiration and understanding the power of creativity and

(57:27):
deciding to move in a direction, we can get there.
And once again, I know, Venice, when you are out
in your community development, in our political shout to pull together.
That has got to be the message, because now they

(57:47):
are constantly trying to divide in conquerors. In the case
of my most brilliant com man that I've ever seen,
either in TV or in the movies or in WCV,
who said it first, there's a fool born every minute.
We have the ability to look the other way and create.

(58:11):
We do not have to be distracted by those things
that really are simply interesting but not important. One of
the things we have to discern and understand is that
we are always going to be approached by things that
are interesting, but it's up to us to decide what's important.
And at my point, in my point in life, what

(58:35):
is important is just like in a relay race, it
isn't really how fast the runners run. The thing that
determines the winner in most cases on a relay race
is how well do they pass the baton, And today
is an example of me doing my best to pass

(58:56):
the baton to what I see as the best of
the runners that I am associated and aware of. You
guys are powerful people, all three of you, very powerful.
All three of you.

Speaker 11 (59:10):
You appreciate, You appreciate all that you do.

Speaker 10 (59:12):
All three of you have a direction and goals that
are not going to be disrupted simply because of some
flashing lights or someone else having a big ring, a
big diamond ring to flash in front of you, or
a big car that suggests that come go with me,
every one of you, every one of you, that I

(59:34):
would take your own little raggedy car in order to
be in charge of where you want to go, as
opposed to letting some big apparently super dup or anything
come and take you off course. And God bless you
for that, and God has blessed me to know you

(59:54):
and know that you are of that caliber. Oh, this
is this is a thank you for joining me on
the show, thank you for giving a direction. And I
invite you to come back without an invitation