KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen (Sun, 26 Oct, 2025)

KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 26 Oct, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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has approved a plan to crush a massive amount of
discarded concrete on a lot near Palm Avenue and West

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Verdemont Drive, Reversing a previous commitment to removing the debris
without first grinding it down, the council voted five to
one to proceed with crushing the debris on site. The
project will include a public outreach campaign to educate residents
affected by the work. Potential methods for the on site
crushing include using a breaker, a front end loader, and

(00:43):
a crusher. The breaker smashes the concrete into small pieces
for processing. The loader moves the debris into the crusher,
creating piles of processed concrete around the project site. City
officials anticipate a three to four month timeline to finish
the work. The crush material will remain on site for
future development of the property. The costs of the work

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will be the responsibility of the current property owner. Sharif A. Wad,
a Realta based real estate agent. Since twenty twenty, the
city has been working to address the large mound of concrete.
Public outcry over the concrete pile has been consisted for
several years. Several speakers at the meeting disapproved of the
council's consideration of rescinding its previous ban on the site

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concrete crushing. It's been over four years since the city
promised to abate the concrete Mountaineer the residential neighborhood, which
has been slated for housing since two thousand and nine.
In the summer of twenty twenty, residents in the Verdemont
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Speaker 9 (07:01):
Here we go. This is Empire Talks Back, and I'm
Wallace Allen on the Case for Truth and Justice. With
the right information to help improve the situation. We're gonna
get started. We want to talk a little bit about
our most wonderful president of our imagination, mister Trump is listen.

(07:21):
This guy is an amazing person, and that he is
able to say things that are obviously kind of doubtful.
Actually he's able to tell a lie right there in
front of you, and you and you, and you believe it.
You know, he's an amazing guy. If he were on

(07:43):
our team, and I say our, that's the good guys,
the people who are concerned about the widows, concerned about
the orphans, concerned about the poor, if he was on
our side, the people who want to see equity and
justice for all. If he were on our side, man,
I feel good about it because I believe he could
talk talk. Oh man, I don't want to use any

(08:05):
stupid cliches, but he could make a make a polar
bear think that it was cold outside. The guy is great.
He has that potential. But somehow he's been tainted. He's
been tainted in a terrible way. We've got people saying
he's been touched and chosen by God. We've got people

(08:28):
saying that he's the devil. I think he's somewhere in between.
He may be the anti Christ. I'm not sure. I'm
not sure. I'm not sure at all. But I do
not like the direction we're going. I think most people don't.
I think those people who think they do, or we're
willing to say they do, they're also part of that
doubtful existence somewhere between heaven and hell purgatory, wishing for

(08:52):
things that harm other people as opposed to doing the
thing that Jesus would do. I guess that's it's highly
appropriate to ask Christians and people who claim to be
Christians if they're doing what they think Jesus would do.
And I don't know if Trump even knows how to
spell Jesus's name, except that if it's some hispanic that

(09:13):
he's trying to turn ice LuSE on, he probably would
misspell that name too. He probably gee, that ain't us
that kind of deal, But he ain't like us, in
the fact that he doesn't love as many of us
as he could and should this is Empire talks back.
I'm wall The said, we're gonna take a short break,
and when we come back, we're going to talk to
Attorney Areva Martin about how she sees things. She's a

(09:37):
civil rights attorney, someone that we have a right to
respect and expected her words are going to be very
truthful and inspiring. So we're gonna take that short break.
We'll come back and talk to her. We also have
Oscia on the line with this a little bit later today,
and maybe Attorney Hugo Salazar. But if you're stuck with

(10:01):
me for the day, man, I got something for you.
We'll be right back after this break.

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Speaker 9 (11:09):
All right, we're back. This is in Pride Tracks back
on Wallace Allen. The Great Anthony Garcia, the moodmaster's here
with us this morning, and that's a real blessing. Anthony.
How are you doing wonderful good? I'll speak for him
and say he's doing wonderful. He looks good, he's been working.
He's got some new songs and music for us. I
don't know, you guys are gonna end up having to

(11:30):
pay big money to hear this guy someday, maybe today.
If you're willing to send us some money, we would
take it. We sure would. Now, what would you send
the money for it? Well, you could send it for
and I'll talk to you about that a little bit later.
Ruthie's Jewels. That's that wonderful book written by Ruth Stevens

(11:52):
that recants her life. She's ninety nine years old, wrote
this book about four years ago. Born in Mississippi, raised
up a family in parts of Mississippi, raised up her
family in Illinois, California, and did a fairly good job,
I believe, because being her son, I think, you know,

(12:13):
she's not ashamed of me. She seems to be happy
with me. But then she's the Leo mother. She may
just be maybe pushing me around, pushing me along, just
saying that to keep me on the right track. Hopefully
get me on the right track. But folks, we've got
a president that has you know, when he got elected
twenty twenty, this guy was twenty twenty four. He was

(12:38):
right on the verge. He had to either win the
election or get ready to go to jail. I mean,
he had all the reason in the world to come
forth with whatever he needed to say and do whatever
kind of promises he needed to make to you, the public,
the MAGA five or the MAGA fifty five or the

(12:59):
MAGA whoever. He had no reason to hold back. He
promised that he was going to take care of Social Security,
keep health care, he was going to reduce prices, he
was going to make the world a better place, without
a doubt. And he's done that for him and his family.

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He hasn't done it for MAGA. He hasn't done it
for any of the people that depended on it. Now,
there's some people who, you know, it's kind of cool
when you're a billionaire and a guy cuts taxes for you,
but you don't really care why, because your money's making
more money for you than you could spend anyway, so

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you don't have a problem with that. So he's now
on his retribution tour. He's decided that he's going to
get even with everybody. Well, one of the things that
we want to do is be respectful. So I'm going
to be spectful of Attorney Reva Martin's time. She hasn't

(14:04):
got all day, but she's decided she's gonna make some
of that time available to us today. And she's more
than aware of the circumstances and issues that we face.
And so I'd like to give her the microphone for
a minute. Good morning. Oh, we had Anthony online. Okay,
we couldn't get Okay, we'll check on that. Same thing goes.

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We got Attorney Hugo Salazar on the line, and he
is not anyone that is going to be fooled by
a fool just because a fool is in charge. Hugo,
how are you this morning?

Speaker 11 (14:44):
Good morning, everybody doing wonderful. Thanks and see all of
you happy Sunday. So I'm gonna say this like this,
we're entering a constitutional crisis, or beyond the constitutional crisis.
You know, whistles one's hearing. We're in danger and our communities,
people of color are under attack. We got a mad

(15:06):
man in the White House who's got a vendetta against
anybody who's not white, and he's coming after us. And
I think all of us should start thinking about what
we need to do to prepare, and the first step
is getting out there and voting yes, I'm Prof. Fifty,
to ensure that we can have somewhat of a fight
in the Congress, so we can have some sort of
protections in this democracy to put a halt to this

(15:28):
mad man's campaign to terrorize people of color. And in reality,
I mean I'm not like many of my colleagues that
have the same level of trust and the institutions, because
the institutions have historically have turned on us. I think
Ice is a perfect example of how this administration is

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using force, illegal force to racially profile black and Latino
people and hunt them down. So we just need to
make sure that we do couple of things well, yes, Prof. Fifty,
Making sure that we get engaged in our local politics,
have community support each other, help out our community members,
our neighbors, support them, because ultimately our main support system

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at the end of the day is going to be
our peers in our community because our elected officials. Honestly,
right now I'm not home having too much of faith
that they're going to do much. But the first step
we've got to do, at least to make sure that
we preserve the existent political structure to try to address
this is prof fifty.

Speaker 9 (16:32):
Take care of home. That's the first step we've got
to do that. We've got to do that even in
the face of people being concerned about, well, will there
even be an election in twenty six And that's very
valid concern. I was able to witness a turn in
attitude with my wife this morning as she was listening

(16:55):
to the news and she said, well, Daddy, is they're
talking about here running for a third term? Is that
even possible? And I said, well, hello, no, it's it's uh,
it's not probable. It's not legal. But let's go back
and look at the list of legal things that he's done.
Let's see show me one. Let's see the White House.
Is is it legal to just tear down the White House? Well,

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he's doing it in reality as well as symbolically. He's
he's been doing that since the beginning, when he when
he when he when he pardoned those people who broke
into the Congress and chase the legislators, senators out of

(17:40):
their lawful position, beating up police. He pardoned all those folks,
and in the same in the same voice, he's turning
around and says he's he's a police guy. He's a
law and order guy. And I guess for his standpoint,
law and order is the is the secret police ice
that he's putting together. I'm glad that you brought up

(18:04):
Prop fifty because we do need to vote, we do
need to enforce that. But what do we think about
the fact that these other states, I mean, we're if
Prop fifty works, it looks like the best that we
could do would be to add five more Democratic congressional seats.
It appears that Trump's trump card is to throw this

(18:26):
thing out of balance, and he's got other states attempting
to do the same thing that would unbalance it and
make it unfair, even more unfair, but create more Republican seats.
What do you think about that? How do we deal
with that part?

Speaker 11 (18:42):
Hugo, Well, I mean, it does not beyond Prop fifty right,
getting in across and getting more congressional seats that tend
to lean more Democrats. It goes against us in the
community to ask form the Democrat Party to take more
of an aggressive stance. I think as a country, as
a whole, everyone is someone a little bit in denial

(19:02):
that we've think, well, maybe things will get better, maybe
the existing system will do something, maybe the Supreme Court
will do something. And I'm gonna tell you right now,
the cavalry isn't coming. We got to start demanding from
our folks who are in the state legislation, who are
in who are in DC, to take a more aggressive
stance against this man, because placating him just with well,

(19:25):
we'll just let the system figure it out. Guys, we
lost the battle at the federal level. He holds the Senate,
he holds the Congress, he holds the Supreme Court. He's
got Nazis running around literally, you know, playing you know,
aggressive tactics against our community, and we're thinking about, well,
maybe we'll talk to them. No, we got to demand
more from our elected officials. And they want to get

(19:47):
our tax dollars. They want to represent us, and I
expect you to fight. I don't expect you out there
to play patty cake with these Nazis. I want you
to get out there. Stop this, you know, stop them
in any way you can, you any mechanisms, you can
stop being buddy buddy with corporate interests. I mean, at
the end of the day, we're like saying, well, Democratic
different than Republicans, you know, but they're using the same funders.

(20:10):
That's got to get out there, and that's the thing
with Trump. You can't use the old mechanism as you
used to use in the past.

Speaker 9 (20:16):
That's got to practice. I think I think you opened
the door there that I've been wondering what's on the
other side. And that's the potential of controlling where we
spend our money, especially in this time where it's going
to be rough. Even having money to spend and to
be selective about where we spend it, I think could

(20:37):
be very very powerful, especially if we play our political
cards correctly. Now, part of that means we need to
know who these corporate people are that are supporting Trump.
So getting that record, I mean, right now, I understand
he received one hundred and thirty million dollar donation to
help pay the pay the military, which I understand would

(21:00):
not pay them for even one day. But he's getting
these anonymous donations Adyonnymous donations to the President of the
United States may be anonymous to us, but they are
promises from him to whomever's giving them money, because we
know that people don't just give money away in America,

(21:22):
and if they do, they don't mind making enough noise
about it so that if they're doing something good, they're
not ashamed of it. And if they're doing something bad,
then it's an an anonymous donation. What do we think
about a real boycott? We saw that we saw Target work, well,
it was quiet, it was fairly quiet, and it was

(21:45):
very selective. And we see people working at Target now
that we're not working there prior to the beginning of
this boycott. What do you think about that in terms.

Speaker 11 (21:55):
Of boycott's work. Okay, whatever, people may say that, you
know what, maybe we uh, we don't support something. They
don't listen to us. Look look at Disney, like at
Jimmy Kimmel, like a Target. The moment things can mobilize
and people start literally not putting money where a place
is supporting these not see policies from Trump, that's the

(22:18):
moment their shareholders figure out like, hey, hey, we gotta
we gotta change it. But but we're not necessarily sometimes
you know, doing that. In our part, we're in this
denial stage. It's kind of like this, look, we're gonna
have Thanksgiving coming up pretty well, you know, story around
the corner. But you know, we have this belief like, well,
maybe we can work with the other side. We gonna
see some family member who's a Trump supporter, We're gonna

(22:40):
see some friends Trump supporter, and people are thinking, well,
maybe we can go kombah yeah and figure things out,
find a find a common ground, no locally and then
in your own family. Hey, you can just do the
first step they say, I'm not gonna support Trump supporters.
I don't care if there is. They're from my blood
over my friend. Second thing, you can then find out
and keep proponing people, keep supporting, boycott that are against

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these types of supporters Amazon, Facebook, Target, I mean to
name a few, right, so you don't have to be
on these things, and that's the best way you hit
them when it hurts in their money and essentially support
local elected officials, local candidate, local community, grassroots leaders that
are progressive that go beyond just the wolf tickets of

(23:26):
Kumba y'ah the old days, because we ain't there another
thing for electored officials in the establishment. Move out the way. Okay,
if you don't like the progressive candidate, get out the way.
Let him or her take the lead, because obviously your
system isn't working. Because if you believe that Trump is
going to come back for a third term just because
he doesn't want to, it ain't gonna happen. I'm gonna

(23:48):
say right now, the plan is already set. We got
to move fast and then to act because if we're
not we might not even have an election.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
That's the issue. Will we even have an election? And
when we do have an electtion, you can depend on
if the people that are representing the good guys us
the folks once again, who are concerned about the orphans,
the widows, the poor, the folks who have a problem

(24:15):
making ends meet. We're going to be accused of being
communists of socialists, as if sharing is something terrible to do,
as if taking responsibility for those who don't have by
providing so that they do have. It's like there's something
wrong with that. There's nothing apparently wrong with it when

(24:36):
the government shares and gives money to their friends and
partners with big tax breaks or big subsidies to larger
companies like I expect that after Trump has stolen the
money from our farmers, he's going to turn around and
do what he did in his last term and come
up with some money that would make you know, you

(24:58):
go along with the stockho syndrome. You've been kidnapped, you've
been beat down, you've been told that you can't live anymore,
and all of a sudden, the same person that has
tied you up and blindfolded you and starved you take
simply takes the blindfold off and lets you smell the food.
All of a sudden, you know he ain't as bad
as he was, because at least I can see, and

(25:20):
he's letting me smell some food, and maybe I'm gonna
get a chance. Oh, he'd let me have a spoonful.
He ain't so bad after all. This is where our
farmers are. He's getting ready to give them a little
money to make up for the fact that he stole
all of their money. No soy being sold. Black farmers
are into a tremendous problem because they've been allowed to

(25:41):
have a little money to grow some food, have a
little promise so they could borrow some money and grow
some food. And now the market that they were going
to sell it to is gone. Now large farmers they
got a subsidy already. You know they're white, so they're right.
Everything's gonna be all right. I don't know about that. Uh, HUGO.

(26:02):
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(26:23):
Oscar are you there this morning?

Speaker 5 (26:25):
I'm there?

Speaker 9 (26:26):
What kind of what? What kind of herbs do you
have that will make me feel better? I mean, cannabis
isn't the deal. I've tried that it'll make me feel
any better? Then? I know that's not what That's not
what you that's not what you spend. Uh. You know
your your consulting time telling people to take Is there
is there anything that can calm me down, relax me? Uh?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
It's a process like anything. It's like cleaning your car.
You can't change your if you don't change your oil,
you got you gotta clean the filter. So most people
start they hear out Irish mods is the best thing,
and they hear, this is the best thing. Some things
the builders in the body, somethings the cleansers in the body.
You got to start off with the process of cleaning,

(27:10):
cleaning before you start building. Okay, So people people gotta
a lot of people ain't clean their body ever in
their whole life, just so much stuff. I mean, you
know between when I find too with help, it's a
simple process. Most people are some of the major diseases

(27:31):
that we deal with, like high blood pressure, diabetes and
all these things. Right here, we look at it from
a we we look at it from a physical standpoint,
when it's really an emotional problem. Some people are still
mad at their brothers and sister because they took a
cookie when they were six and they sixty six and still.

Speaker 9 (27:49):
Mad and that and that'll make them distress, That will
make make them decide to be a trumpete so that
they so that they can get even with their brothers
who ate the cookie when they.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Were family has a lot of pain.

Speaker 9 (28:03):
The family hasn't been fair to me in their place.
The family hasn't been fair to me in the first place.
I'm not a Democrat or Republican, but I think a
little Trump pain is good for everybody. Or maybe he's
gonna help me out. How do we deal with these uh?
Uh Oski meet Hugo Sellers are he's a he's a

(28:23):
great uh civil rights attorney. He's a good guy. He's
he's one of the good guys.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (28:29):
His concerns, his concerns are like mine and and just
to a degree like yours. How do we fix our
mental status, our mental attitude, so that so that we
can see clearly we we should.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
We gotta come back, We gotta come back to common sense.
You know some things that happened. I ain't never known somebody.
It's like what Trump is dealing with, uh, carrying down
and rebuilding the White House. Really, he's a renter. He's president,
he's running an office. It is like somebody, you have
a home. Somebody the renner is going to tear down

(29:10):
the home and rebuild him another home. This is crazy.
This is insane that American public as a whole, that
is running a position in American politics, that he comes
in and said, I'm gonna tear it down and rebuild it,
and you're gonna pay for this is insane. So I

(29:30):
think a lot of times American people have to start
coursing this sanity. Things that we're using, you like right
and wrong, morality, basic principles that we used to grow up.
And it seemed like you just declined eive he's coming.

Speaker 9 (29:49):
Let me ask you this, yougo, is insanity a reason
for or does that help warrant getting rid of this man?
Can we peaching for his obvious using the left leg
when he should use the right. He's definitely out of sink.
But then he turns around and he does something like

(30:11):
like over in in like last night in uh in
Thailand and Cambodia, where he's created a lane of peace
between people who were fighting. Now that's a good thing.
I mean, I got to say, well, that's a good thing.
I would almost say it's a good thing the way
things work it out over in Ghazi, except that I
know he's planning to put a Trump tower on Gaza

(30:34):
somewhere somehow, a bridge somehow with his name on it.
I have no doubt. But as we look at this
inconsistency with common sense, the lack of the lack of
a steady foot on on on the break or and

(30:54):
and handling the steering wheel correctly. What's how impeachment is that?
Is that a real Do we have to wait understanding
that this man is indeed trying to interfere with the elections.
Let's let's let's look at it. He has the military, Well,

(31:15):
the military may have a general or two that can say, well,
I don't know. So he's come up with ice and
nobody between him and ice for him. He tell ice
what to do, and they're gonna do it. I mean,
they're they're swinging from vines that don't even exist. They're
jumping in the windows that that aren't even windows. So
he has a secret police, he has a he has

(31:37):
a Supreme Court that think they are They think they're
Diana Ross. All they're supposed to do is sing the
tune that he gives them. That's the supreme that they are.
They're not Supreme Court making judgments that are good for
the people. They're making judgments that are good for them.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
American public has to really see one hundred and fifty
years ago, they used to have a world called useful.
American public accustomed to two roads they created in the
twentieth century that was called new and old. So something
that was useful, you're you'll go get something new because
but it's still the old thing still works. So we

(32:14):
spend a lot of money on things that we don't need.
We don't use common sense, reason, reality. We believed in
the institution of religion, and the religious institution haven't really
addressed any of these issues about Trump. Okay, American people
have to really have to really examine everything and see

(32:37):
we we we have to understand too. A lot of
times I question this. We always heard race racism. You
could be a racist and don't have to know that
you're a racist. Poor white people to a large degree
received benefits and didn't have to uh, just because they

(32:59):
were not that they were well they just because I'm white,
you have sudden benefits. Well, you have to understand that
you don't have to be a racist for a lot
of things that we look at in society and the
issue where doesn't look at the beginning, Where does it
start from?

Speaker 9 (33:16):
Well, where do you what happens to make you decide
to give up your position of power or your position
of privilege. Okay, So we got to understand that first.
We can't just say they got power and they got
privilege and black well, what makes you give that up?
Nobody wants to give up power.

Speaker 11 (33:32):
You go and look, I'm gonna tell you right now.
And I say this fully knowing that this is recorded.
In some days someone will show it to me or something.
I'm gonna say this. This this country is something on
racist principles. This institution is designed to literally steal rob village,
punder black and brown people and people cut. I'm not

(33:54):
hoping for the Congress to impeach this man. Man, It's
quite frankly, there's a lot of tick offends out there
are both Democrats and Republicans who want this to happen.
They like, they enjoy seeing they enjoy the killing of
black men by the hands the police. They enjoy it.
They want so the only way we're going to stop
is is self reliance, getting our act together, putting our

(34:19):
black and brown daughters in black and brown communities, and
making sure that we do our part because we hope,
we believe in dream that the Calgaries and company ain't
happening because this is the plan.

Speaker 9 (34:30):
Yeah, Trump manages, I think we have We have a
great ability to describe the problem, but our our salvation
is going to be in describing the solutions. As as
ask you, as you've said so many times. We have
people who are mad because of sister or brother took
the big biscuits when they were young. How did we

(34:50):
deal with that?

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Now?

Speaker 9 (34:52):
How do you how do you counsel that person who
was has that anger?

Speaker 5 (34:57):
We are we are the impression that one party is
better for us in the other, both of them the
same thing. One thing that Malcolm X.

Speaker 9 (35:07):
Said, let me get you, let me get you back,
let me get you over on this other other soapbox.
I want to get on the solution soapbox we've got.
We're in the fastest hour on radio now. We spent
a good forty minutes talking about the problem. I need
to see some solutions, some things that we can say
and do to our community, the people that we love

(35:29):
and the people who love us and the people who
hate us and wonder about us. What are some things
that can be done that are going to be done
in the lane that people are occupying that's going to
lead us in the direction of salvation.

Speaker 11 (35:42):
Because I got to run, Yeah you got I'm gonna
tell you three things in case that goes first and foremost,
but the earliest thing, Yes, impropity. Okay, you gotta have
more congressional districts that support, you know, some sort of
impeachment process in the system. Number two, Okay, we got
to use our dollar where people respect and they don't
respect us. Don't go buy at these days, So support

(36:04):
the boycotts, go to the protest and make sure to
express your First Amendment right. And Thirdly, and most difficult,
we got to have the tough conversations in our own home. Okay.
We all got that brother in law, we all got
that brother was a racist homo, bob of whatever. If
we're criticizing Trump out there, we got to make sure
at home we do the right thing. Here's a reality.

(36:27):
I'm a Latino, my Chicano. There's a lot of racism
within the Chicano Latino community. Hey, I'd like to see
people expose that and talk about that so we can
resolve the problem. Because if we're out here preaching equal
justice out here and then we don't do it at home,
we can do it. Those are the three steps of
the solution. One, well, yes, I'm prop fifty two, making

(36:48):
sure we manifestor are dissent against this guy, not blindly
voluntary submit to them. And thirdly, have those tough conversations
at home. Without starting at home, we can't do stuff
outside any.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
Hugo sellers are. We appreciate you, We love you, and
we know that you're a good guy, and we appreciate it. Go,
don't go spend that time with those kids, because that's
how we're going to make sure that tomorrow is better.
We gotta work on our kids.

Speaker 11 (37:17):
To the museums.

Speaker 9 (37:18):
Otherwise, well, at least while we got some museums left.
Love you, bro, thank you very much, Oscar. Okay, So,
so we discussed this problem, this family problem, this this
internal anger, this this thing that we hold against each
other for something as simple as you know, Mama loves

(37:39):
you more as he loves me, I think, or daddy
Daddy didn't spank you as hard as he spanked me.
Or you took the big, the big, big donut and
uh they always let you have that. Or I got
the chicken neck and you got the chicken breast, and
on and on and on and on, and we have
these little trivial things that we remember consciously and subconsciously

(38:00):
that keep us apart. How do we and I think
Hugo gave us three good points. I don't know if
that's all we need, but those are certainly good points.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Oh I said, we got to come back with common
in a lot of casa a lot of problems that
we have in discussing things. It's like when we have
a disagreement with the money here. People think that their
opinion is a fact. Is an opinion. I have an opinion,
it's not a fact. But we don't want to listen

(38:34):
to the other side. I'm right, you're wrong. Okay, it's
like Democrat Republicans.

Speaker 9 (38:40):
No, that's the problem. That's the problem. You just said
the problem. We don't want to listen to each other.
How do we decide what kind of atmosphere can we
set up that is going to allow us to listen
to each other because.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Listening and understand that somebody could disagree with you. It's
like what people were religion. I always tell people like this,
I praise the Lord, thank you Jesus. Stop you from
breaking in my house. Praise the Lord, thank you Jesus.
If I'm doing lockbawn, stop you from robbing me. A
log ball, Bonnie Gunny, the loan, whatever medication you need
to keep you saying, take your medication. Well, you try

(39:17):
to give me your medication. You a dope dealer. It
works for you, it might not work for me. Is
that okay?

Speaker 9 (39:23):
Okay? So the problem that the problem was someone disagrees.
So when someone disagrees with you, what is a good
method for dealing with when someone disagrees? Let's just take it,
take it as simple and take it to a common
sense if you can.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
I have a different point of view than you, and
keep on moving. We ain gonna set up here and
spend those twenty minutes up here arguing about it. Is this.

Speaker 9 (39:51):
I want to make you ask you let me let
me take you back. Let me take you back fifteen, twenty,
twenty five, thirty years when you were looking at at first,
in that realm of the first three or four young
ladies you looked at, that was kind of blowing your mind.
You had disagreement because you wanted to take them out
necessarily and they didn't necessarily want to go. Okay, and

(40:16):
if they did go out with you, do you had
something else in mind? They did? You wanted to do that,
they didn't necessarily want to do. Now, you didn't muscle
your way through life in romance and seduction, so at
some point you decided that you could reason well enough
to convince somebody to do something. I hate to take

(40:37):
you back over there, because I know that's a soft spot,
but it's a workable spot, right. I got two other
guys sitting in the studio with me here, you know,
and nobody up in here is Romeo or you know.
But they both got children, they both have wives or
had wives. They talked to some woman somebody something at

(41:00):
some point that was not wanting to go the way
they were wanting to go. So don't tell me that
we don't know how to disagree or to talk to
people who disagree with us. It's a certain thing that says,
just like you did, I talked to you, we disagree.
You got yours, I got mine, and I'm gonna walk away. No,

(41:20):
we can't afford to walk away anymore. We have got
to stay in the same room, and we've got to
come to some level of understanding that's gonna allow us
to occupy the same room without trying to kill each
other or disrespecting each other.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
How do we get to that it's like one thing
that a component of human personality that keep on arising
and we have to put it in check. It's ego.
Ego is like living in a house with no mirror?

Speaker 9 (41:50):
Can I put your Can I put your ego in check?
Or do I have to deal with my ego? Whose ego?
Whose ego am I in charge of? There you go, Okay,
So whose common sense do I have access to? Okay?

(42:12):
All right? So in this argument or in this situation
where I've got two people who are not or I
got one person who's disagreeing with me, and I'm saying,
we got to use common sense, We got to use
good judgment. Who's common sense and who's good judgment am
I in charge of? To bring to the table? So

(42:35):
I have If I've got to do that, then I've
got to expect that I'm doing that because this other
person feels that they have a legitimate reason to feel
as powerful about their feelings as I feel about mine. So,
my brother, how do we how do we get ourselves

(42:56):
propped up to make the compromise without family? Because we
got you got Halloween coming up, so you're gonna be
people will be dressed up in costumes, so they'll keep
on pretending that they don't have to get along. But
then you got Thanksgiving coming, and here we go about
this who's gonna get the neck, and who's gonna get
the leg, and who's gonna get the breasts, and who's

(43:17):
gonna get the wing and all that, And it could
take us all the way back to some Thanksgiving that
took place twenty years ago. Common sense, rule of rule
of common sense, rule of getting along. How do we
decide in the beginning that we're gonna do that? Is

(43:39):
there any is there anything that you can think of
that makes people throw away their their fears of each
other and decide to come together. How about earthquake?

Speaker 5 (43:51):
We just I mean, it's just a minute that I
can be wrong, somebody else have a point of view
that I don't have. That's all it is. Okay, it's
really it's really like I said, it comes all the time.
We but we we have developed this personality through so
many It's like here people relived, people, oh everybody else
going to hell because they don't believe what I believe.

Speaker 9 (44:11):
Well, you keep talking about these religious people. I'm gonna
pray for you, brother, I'm gonna prayer.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Difference between spirituality and people think that religion is spirituality.

Speaker 9 (44:26):
Vis yes, yes, now, okay, okay, just to take to
go backwards for a minute, because I don't know if
I made my points strong enough. As we look at
h the religion of Christianity, you've got Christianity in Christ
and you've got people that go the other direction of Christianity,

(44:47):
which would, according to the word be like anti Christ.
We've got a we've got a political situation where we've
got people raising the Christian flag, but they're raising it
on an Antichrist banner. They are not talking about taking
care of the poor. They're not talking about helping the orphans,

(45:10):
they're not talking about making life better for the widows.
They are talking about me, give me mine, and if
you don't, yours doesn't count. I should have more. I'm
this and I'm that, And I would like for us
to take a moment, not this moment, but consider over

(45:32):
a moment's time, the Antichrist and what he would look like,
what it would smell like, what he would act like.
And if indeed we cannot identify someone now who is
acting like the Antichrist, not very good. So I was
able to say all of that without saying that Trump
is the Antichrist. So I did a good job, but

(45:52):
I needed to say that religions, as you indicate are
the are something that's designed, I think, to hold us
together socially, allow us to be civilized, and to have
some kind of spiritual connection that makes our life on
earth something that we can be allow us to be

(46:16):
compatible with each other, except that revision is a big
old statue, a big old monument that we are not
able to see all of it one time, And so
we've got some people looking at the bottom of the statue,
some at the top, some at the right side, some
at the left side, and somehow if we were to

(46:38):
agree that religiously, all of us are seeing a piece
of it, but none of us are seeing all of it.
And if we all sat down and describe what piece
of it we see, we might be able to put
the puzzle together so that we could appreciate the fact
that there is something greater than all of us. But
it takes all of us to be able to see

(47:00):
it and describe it, and that way we need to
cooperate with each other. Does that makes sense to you?
Does that make sense to me, Does that make sense
to you?

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Eric?

Speaker 9 (47:12):
He nodded his head. So we're we're in that kind
of situation where, like you say, and I and I
want to respect that we carry old arguments hidden, but
we have we have arguments with people we never saw before.
We have disagreements with people we never saw before, with

(47:32):
people we haven't even talked to. We make these jobs.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
So learning about that we are we'll think you're going
you're wrong because I believe my religion. Says I ain't
never study nobody else's religion, but y'all going to hell
because you don't believe in my religion. To me, that
just don't make no sense. You know, I ain't never
studying Hinduism of Buddhism, but y'all going to hell. But
you don't believe that this is Christ? Your right, right, right, right,

(47:59):
And I'm right you're wrong. I don't think Jesus would
say that. Well, we don't know the difference between the
Jesus and the Christ. A Christ is the love of concasses.
Jesus was a name. There was even a lot of
jay at that particular time. We don't even understand what
we think we believe in religion. Is completely different than visuality.

(48:23):
You don't see it. I'm saying it's the same theme.

Speaker 9 (48:26):
No, it's not the same. I agree with you that
it's not the same. As we as we look at
that solution, I'm saying, Okay, First of all, we need
to communicate better.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (48:38):
That was the third leg of Hugo's suggestion that we
talk to family and friends and figure out a way that.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
And even coming to the understanding the difference between uh,
kim folk and family. You got kim folks, if they
weren't related to you, you wouldn't talk with them. But
you got friends that's been your that's been there for
you all the time. That's your family. Whether we discover

(49:07):
understanding of love and that.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
And that's where we are able to take and expand
the idea that we have created family from people that
we have met who in some cases agreed with us, disagreed,
but we came together because we decided to. We decided
to do that. So I think that's important, especially if

(49:31):
we're going to go and look at the second step
that Hugo suggested, and that's that we spend our money
wisely and spend it selectively and do that on a
collective basis, so that our people that we're trying to
impress can feel what we want to impress them with
a boycott. Our boycott of those corporations that are supporting

(49:56):
the separation the argument, that are supporting the lack of equality,
that are supporting the idea that some people are above
the law and some people are better than others. Those
corporations do not deserve our money if we and so
we need to figure out who they are. We need
to find those out, so our economic experts. That's a

(50:19):
job that we need to get you working on so
that next week I'm able to come in here and say, hey,
these are some companies that are making big donations to
mister Trump. Well, we can look at our big tech
companies because they've all sat down with them and made
their deal. They I mean, we saw what happened with Twitter. Yeah,

(50:45):
we'll have to get into that. We'll have to talk
about what we can do because the fact that we
need these guys that we're on social media and we
think we need them so much. I don't know. Maybe
one of the first boycotts we need to figure out
how to do is to put our phones down for anything.
Other than making a phone call.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Is all companies basic motive is for you to buy
something from them. How much stuff do you we need?
You know, people, why do people always have yards stale
and and go to throst story and get rid of
stuff because they bought it six months ago, now they're
getting rid of it. Well, we have to look at
ourselves and then how much stuff do we really need

(51:29):
to be happy? Do we do I really need? Well?

Speaker 9 (51:33):
One of the one of the things that brings you
to that is the warning I asked earlier, I said,
what kind of things can happen to make us kind
of come together? Well, when you see the fire coming
that that's one of those things that makes you makes
the community start to cooperate. But another thing that occurs
when the fire is coming is you've got a half hour.

(51:57):
Take what you need. Everything that you leave may be destroyed.
That's when you can see that people realize they've got stuff,
They've got stuff that they don't even know they have,
and and think some of those things may be things
that we just purchased. And I know that at my house,

(52:18):
Amazon is making these deliveries and stuff. And I mean,
if Amazon will go bring it, you know, chances are
you may buy something you didn't really want, you know,
I mean, ohh it looked good on TV, and oh
Amazon will deliver. I don't have to use my car
to go get it. And so I think the idea
of figuring out what we need, what we really want,

(52:39):
will be helpful as we decide, as we decide as
a family to boycott those corporations and businesses that are
supporting anti equality, that are that are against diversity, inclusion, inequity,
those people that are so willing to stand up and

(52:59):
say no, we are in support of these secret police.
Yeah we we. So I think that revolution that's taking place,
that civil war that is taking place, and it's taking
place now, needs to You need to sign up because
you're on one side. If you're not rich, you're on

(53:22):
the you're on the good guy side. Not that rich
people are not good guys, but the rich people are
being treated above the law. And if you're rich, you
need to you need to do something that's gonna share
your money. What I think we have to do is
we have to realize that we are in a civil

(53:44):
war that has to do with our economy, that has
to do with our access to equal protection under the law,
and that there is one side that is being directed
by our president that is set up to deny the
general population of its resources to have equality and access

(54:07):
to equal protection under the law. And how we do
that is once again with our vote. And that's that
first thing that Hugo talked about, and he spoke about
Prop fifty. Prop fifty is very important. Do you agree?
I do you agree? Okay, So have you voted Yetoski?

(54:28):
Have you voted on Prop fifty yet?

Speaker 6 (54:31):
I have?

Speaker 9 (54:32):
I have not, And I intend to do my ballot
tomorrow and get that puppy out of the way, so that, yeah,
we need to we need to support Prop fifty. Not
that it's going to win enough seats to throw the
Republican move off, but it will show the solidarity of
California and once again, that's home and we've got to

(54:55):
take care of home first.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Well, I think you're the point. I've been trying to
make one thing that Malcolm X did. He said between
the Democratic Republicans though, like a fox and a war,
both a box and a wolf both pay nine. The
appetite is the same, but they just got different ways
of going after difference, right, And we don't understand even

(55:19):
with the Democrats. I mean, y'all news, Uh, what was
it eight years ago that Trump was like.

Speaker 9 (55:27):
Let's try not to separate us further apart than we
already are. We know that Democrats got a problem. I mean,
and it's been well announced. It's it's like, uh, we
know that. So to continue to talk about it doesn't
bring us closer. To know that the Republicans are the
same way, it doesn't bring us closer. What does bring
us closer is to look at some issues and say, now,

(55:51):
is this fair? Is this what we want? Is it
regardless of whether you're a Democrat or Republican? Do you
want your healthcare to triple and quadriple in price or
even double or go up?

Speaker 5 (56:05):
No?

Speaker 9 (56:06):
And I think when we ask that question, that answer
goes all the way across political lines. When we say
your housing costs, do you want those to go up
or go down? I think everybody would like to be
able to afford the house and groceries. Those things are universal.

(56:29):
We want those, everybody wants them. We want them to
be fair. Should we have certain people who can drive
down the street and run over folks or shoot somebody
on fifth avenue and nobody care about it? Or should
everybody be subject to all of the pressures of the law.
I think everybody would agree that's what we want to

(56:49):
have happened. We want to have equal protection under the
law and equal enforcement of the law. So how do
we get those things done? We as we look at
our arguments and we describe, and we find we are
having disagreements, these may be the things to bring up.
Do we think it's good for people to be able

(57:11):
to eat? And do we think it's good for people
to have a place to sleep? Do we think it's
good for people to sleep in the streets or should
they have access to housing? Do we think it's good
for people that have mental illness to just walk the
streets or should there be some kind of place where
they can be taken care of and removed from the

(57:33):
pressures that they create for other people who have to
deal with them while they're on the street. I think
it's nothing common about common sense, But if we work
harder to create a common stream of sensible thoughts, we
may be able to bring this to some kind of

(57:56):
positive activity solution. How do you feel about the future.
I skip as you talk to some young man on
the street, some young woman on the street. How do
you feel about their future? And what do you have
to say to them? We only got a minute or two?

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Huh would you repeat that of Angeline?

Speaker 9 (58:20):
Yeah? What is your advice? What is your attitude about
the future?

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Fine? Fine yourself. I always say this, six billion sperms,
that it form one egg. We the only one made it.
Both of the billion planets in the Milky Way galaxy,
two trillion galaxies in the universe that we hear our
goal in lines are trying to find ourselves. All of
us aren't supposed to be the same. How could you grow?

(58:47):
I mean, look at life in a different way. Everything
comes from nowhere. Everything comes from nowhere. But when you
bring a thought to nowhere nowhere, turns a thought around
and say now here, speill nowhere spell now here, the
same world. We have to look at the whatever what's
happened in our life, look at the polive and the

(59:08):
other side. It might be growth from the negativity.

Speaker 9 (59:11):
Let me back that up. The same letters that say
nowhere spell now here. Yeah, that's beautiful, that's beautiful, and
that that that says that says your attitude. My attitude
is always the thing that takes us out of here. Listen,

(59:32):
I appreciate you, I appreciate the time people are spend.
This is the quickest hour on radio, and our time
is gone. Love you, thank you, thank you, look for you,
and look for you guys next week under the uh
probability that the creak won't rise and that God is
going to be willing for us to be here. So

(59:53):
see you then, God, bless you. Thank you for your time.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
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