November 16, 2025 • 60 mins
KCAA: The Empire Talks Back with Wallace Allen on Sun, 16 Nov, 2025
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All right, this is Empire Talks Back. I'm Wallace Allen.
It is a beautiful, beautiful Southern California day, especially if
you're not if you're challenged visually. The beauty is in
the spirit and not in the eyeball unless you're in
the mountains. You love that snow. We are we are
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with snow up in our mountains. We are, We're still
only fifty five miles from the ocean. It's a beautiful
place to be. All of you folks who've been tremendously
jealous of southern California all your life, were for the
last six months, Today is your day. You don't have
to be jealous. Today. You can enjoy being where you are,
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because I'm sure that you are at least Wait a minute,
I just got a report from back east. Well, I
guess we're a little bit better here than we are
there too. This is Empire Talks Back. I'm Wallace Allen.
I'm gonna talk to you a little bit today about
a couple of things that I'm sure on your mind.
And we have a guest, mister Glenn Tower out of Austin, Texas,
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and we are extremely blessed to have mister Mark Westwood
in the studio with us today. He is uh someone
that can toss ideas around and and sling information with
the best of us. And of course we have the Moodmaster. Now,
if you have not been sleeping under a rock, you've
been you have been distorted information wise one way or another.
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With these Epstein files, it seems like as much as
I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm in favor of
the under of the under guy, of the little guy,
of the person that is being left out in most cases.
But today I've got something that's that And I hope,
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I hope my friend Fred doesn't get upset with me.
But I'm wondering why in the heck with these Epstein files,
the only person we end up talking about is Trump.
We've got a incidents evidently that took place with these
young ladies. We've had victims at number, I don't know
how many, but we've talked about a conspiracy, we talk
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about sex trafficking, and it seems like the only traffic
is between Epstein, the Prince and Trump. And I know better,
you know better, we do. Yeah, And as we read
these read these emails, we should be looking for any
and everybody who may have had anything to do if
the negative way with these young ladies.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know, Instead, all they're doing is offering distractions. You know,
we have a new acronym for GOP, which was the
Grand Old Party back in the day.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Is that what that divisionally meant originally.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Meant grand Old Party, but now it's called.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
That it meant go off in pee or something.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
You know, but go on with Guardians of pedophiles, Guardians
of pedophiles.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
You know, that would be funny if it wasn't so true.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
It is sad, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
It's an amazingly sad thing when we have people who've
been elected, people who've run around talking about how qualified
they are to serve, how desirous they are to be
of service to the constituents, and they close their eyes
to future voters, They close their eyes to people who
have been neglected, people who are sensitive to others who
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are being neglected, and they just close their eyes.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There's victims here, there's victims. These little girls were victims.
One little girl is so distraught, and as an older woman,
she committed suicide.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
That's amazing that, it's an amazing thing that and the
fact that she committed suicide evidently gives our go off
and pee guys.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Grant Guardians of pedophiles. I'm sorry the GOP Guardians of pedophiles.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
Guardians of pedophiles to give the guardians of pedophiles an excuse,
a means of continuing to walk on the other side
of logic. It makes no sense to me, makes no
sense at all.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
They've got a picture with Epstein now and Pam Bondi
who's the Attorney general, and Trump all buddy buddy from
back in the day too, she was writing on it,
and of course Mikey Johnson.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
And Mikey Johnson, and then this deal with Ms Maxwell
being given the best of prison circumstances. I don't understand
how we, as a civilized nation can continue to walk
this way. We've got to straighten up and mark, you know,
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to some extent. That means we're gonna have to We're
gonna have to figure out how to get along with
people that don't want to be gotten along with. I
find myself looking at Marjorie Taylor Green as somebody that
maybe this girl is going to be a convert, maybe
she's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
A Maybe she has some scruples, maybe she has some ethics.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Either that or at least she's got some type of
judgment to say, I don't want to be caught walking
hand in hand with these absolute you know, and that's
a terrible thing. So that that's one of the things
I wanted to get off my chest, and I'm hoping
that we will somehow make a decision to look at
everybody that's involved. If their name is brought up, we
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should investigate. I mean anyway, Mark, thank you for being
here and I look forward to us having further discussions
as we go along. But right now, I'd like to
introduce mister Glenn Towery. Glenn is a friend of mine.
We went to college together. He's also a veteran, Vietnam veteran.
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He's also a veteran. If I want to get my
mind straight, I want to I want to contribute to
the world. I want to do things that are going
to make the world a better place. He's in that
particular army and war. He is a matter of fact,
that's put together the Austin I guess, Glenn, are you there?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Yes? How you doing today?
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Great?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Great?
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Great? You put together an event, a series of events
that the city of Austin thought so much of. They've
given you almost a month of of access to venues
and support to put on to put on.
Speaker 11 (15:13):
Austin Veterans Art Festival.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
That's an amazing thing. So your commitment there goes to
show that you're not just trying to get your money,
which you spent a lot of time doing. You had
to you you left the military in a disabled condition,
and uh, unfortunately they treated you like they treat like
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they treated treat black folk. Well you know there we
well probably does you know. We we talk about many things.
One of the things as we discuss our our presidency,
our president administration, as we talk about how they walk
the edge of white supremacy and racism. But they are
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not the leaders. They are not the first to do that.
Our military has set a terrible example of how to
honor its participants, its veterans, a terrible example. But at
the same time, you and many others have demonstrated your
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tenacity and your determination to not just serve yourself, but
to serve others. And you set a good example by
fighting to get your rights. I'm sitting here with a
young man who's a veteran, mister Anthony Garcia, my mood master.
That beautiful bass music you hear along with my voice.
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He's one of the people who has had a fairly
decent experience with the vets, mainly because veterans administration, mainly
because he's been willing to take some blame. You know
I talked to him. He'll say, well, I didn't sign
up early enough, I didn't do what I could have
done or should have done. Well, there's something about secret
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information that makes it hard for people to do what
they're supposed to do. And it appears that getting veterans'
benefits is a secret unless you are well, if you're
a minority, well and not minority, because number wise, you know,
if you're not white. And I'm not trying to make
anybody upset except people that are get upset with injustice.
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If you're not white and you come out of the
military after war, from the people I've talked to you, you
don't necessarily get the information as to how to get
your benefits. Anthony says, though, but once he got hooked up,
once he was able to get a an advocate, he
was able to make things happen for himself. On the
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other hand, Glenn, I know you spent what eight.
Speaker 11 (17:52):
Years, ten years, eight years fighting for your getting a
your benefits, but it wasn't a go ahead.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
The VA's ennefits were twenty five years. I bought and
I was able to get my service connected disability complete
in total, which I had been for twenty five years.
They proved that, but they would only go back so far.
So then I went after the Navy for putting me
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out on the street, out of the service that way,
because I originally had signed up for four years of
service and I got injured in Vietnam and I was
bounced and just basically placed on the street, injured, still
unwell after twenty months.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Well, do you know, the circumstances were common. You weren't
the only one that happened to that that happened to unfortunately,
but your spirit, Glenn. I met you after your experience
in VA and at San Jose State. You were in
the arts. Matter of fact, it was only recently that
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I've found out in our conversation that you were not
a student at San Jose State. You were in everything
that I thought was important going on at San Jose
State at the time. But uh, your your performance, your
your your art, you're digging your foxhole in the world
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of art, seemed to have I don't know, you've you've
always appeared more than normal to me.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Uh, You've you've.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Actually stepped into the you know, the Now that I
know more about the circumstances, you're actually a superstar, because
everybody doesn't know how to respond in a positive way
for themselves in the midst of the type of pressure
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that you were placed on. So we're not going to
spend a lot of time talking about that pressure, but
we are going to spend a lot of time talking
about how you respond to pressure. Glenn, you moved to Texas.
If I had a close up with my face here
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when I say you moved to Texas, you'd see this
look of wonderment in my eye. Why in the heck
would somebody leave California to go to Texas? And then
what are you going to do when you get there?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
But then, well there was there was a big reason.
My wife is the youngest than her family. She's from Texas,
and she had ten brothers and sisters. We got to
a point to where they were transitioning rather rapidly, and
she turned to me one day and she said, Baby,
can we move to Texas so I can spend some
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time with my brothers and tests? And it just touched
me so much the way she said it that I said, yeah,
let's do it. But I won't move to Houston. I
wouldn't move to Houston because of the humidity there. Every
time I go to Houston in the summer, it reminds
me of Vietnam, and it triggers me.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Is that in general, where her family is, where she
was born and raised, You're a good friend. My wife,
Josephine asked this morning. She said, Daddy, why did they
move to Texas in the first place. Then I said
something to that effect. I think it was had something
to do with Jannita's family. But you have done a
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yeoman's job there. You have not run off and hid.
You have Like I said, how long were you in
Austin before the Austin Veterans Art Festival was put together?
And how hard was that for you to actually do
with the city of Austin.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Well, the very first thing I thought performed was the
Veterans Suicide with Engine Channel, and Austin Veterans Arts Festival
is a part of that. It came about because we
were just simply a channel. All we were doing was
shooting projects for veterans to put on our channel, and
we had no outreach programs, and I thought, well, let's
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do an art outreach program. So we were founded in
twenty fifteen. I moved to back detectives. In twenty thirteen
twenty fifteen, I founded a Veterans' suicide Prevention channel, and
in twenty eighteen we started the often Art festival Atome
Veterans Arts Festival.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Let's talk commented about the suicide prevention channel. I note
we've had you on the air earlier in our career,
and at that point where you initiated the Veterans' suicide
Prevention Channel, I think we were talking about veterans dying
at a rate of around eighteen to twenty a day.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Actually it's twenty two, and they can't convince me that
you know that it's not still twenty two or more today.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
And the reason they can't do that is because of
the record keeping. Am I correcting that?
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Yes, the statistic there is no there is no national
of one place where records are kept. All records are
being kept individually by state and then they basically like
kind of somebody, the VA puts all together what the
information they get from the state, and then they correlate
a figure. And it's been shown already that some of
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their correlations have been off as well as other things
that happened with the VA. I don't know what's going
on there sometimes, But like in twenty eighteen, they had
a massive, a massive budget for suicide prevention and the
VA didn't spend one diamond.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I beg your pardon.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
In twenty eighteen, they had a massive budget for suicide
prevention and in that year, the DA didn't spend one
dime of it.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
That's amazing, that's amazing. Okay, So what happened next year?
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Maybe let me just say that, Okay, I said one dime.
Let me just say that they didn't hardly spend anything.
They may have spent a dime, they may have spent
a couple of dimes. Yeah, so that they had, they
didn't spend very much at all.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
So we've had since twenty eighteen, this is twenty twenty five.
We've had seven years of Veterans Days, seven years of
Memorial Days, and we are still looking the other way
as our president goes down to Venezuela and creates a
terrorism statement so that he can effectively create another distraction war.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
It's really terrible. I think what's going on right now now.
Everybody is being victimized, even our own citizens are being victimized.
If you're third world country out there, you've got to
keep looking over your shoulders, and it's just it's just
really bad. But you know, my concern has always been
and still is today, a suicide prevention. I was, actually
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I became the very first suicide prevention officer in America
in twenty sixteen when I was appointed in that position
by the DAD, and then I wrote the program for
the Military Order of the Purple Heart, who got their
first suicide prevention officer the following year twenty seventeen from
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gentlemen who was on my board of the Veterans Suicide
Prevention General. And I was also the very first suicide
prevention officer for the DA for the VFW, only it
wasn't on the state level, the district level, but now
they had last year they had a state level personality,
so I wrote their program as well for that.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
So though VA has actually a budget for suicide prevention, yes,
and when did they create that budget?
Speaker 8 (26:19):
That budget has been created years, many many years ago.
And that's why it's a big It was a big
surprise when it hit the news and anyone can can
look this stuff online. When we discovered that no money,
virtually no money was spent in twenty eighteen on Veterans'
Suicide Prevention. That really hurts me too, because I'm one
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of those veterans who actually did try to kill himself,
and you know, my recovery from it was just so bad.
I said, well, I'm not going to do that no
more because it's just it's taking me If I do it.
I had to be sure that I really did it.
But I got put into a group called p r RC,
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which is the second highest level of treatment for people
with PTSD. It's a day they call it the Day
Treatment Program and I was in that program for four
years and that's what really helped me. But everybody can't
get into a program like that.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
The difficulty. So let me ask you this, sir. What
type of program does the VA have now for suicide prevention?
Are they spending money? Are they investing in our veterans?
Are we still trying to figure out how to save
money instead of saving lives?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Well, you know, I'm not really exactly sure they are
spending money. They do have programs now, they're starting to
form relationships with communities, But I kind of got frustrated
because you know, the whole idea of trying to do
something that's really really positive, but still getting the same
result by doing the same thing over and over, the
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suicide rate has not been affected substantially at all. I mean,
so if you're doing something that's not working, that means
you have to try to do something else. Yeah, and
so I've been thinking outside the box, and that's the
reason why I have created the very first television series
about healing veterans and preventing suicide in the history of America.
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It's called Project Mission Transition Condition.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Other than the title, I think it's a great idea.
I just think your title is too long. I get
lost on the end of it. But then hearing the
whole title, you know, lets you know what the what
the real mission is? Uh, that's a that's a working title.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Tell us a little bit about your TV series concept.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
I think we've got a superhero involved there or do we?
What's well, we.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Have just basically a starting round.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Well, let me say this, I consider you a superhero. Okay,
because Glenn, the only thing that you've tried to do
that you've failed in that I know of is committing suicide.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Thank God, and thank God for that.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
And you know, so you are a superhero in the
sense that your life could be gone. I had a
guest last week who is a veteran who also works
to save veterans and make veterans. He's an advocate, and
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one of the things he says is that I gave
up my life for death. He was expecting to die,
and he was prepared to die when he went to Vietnam.
And his issue is that since he didn't die, creating
a new life has been his goal as he returned,
and figuring that out even was the big problem because
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when he returned from Vietnam, he kept the same pattern
and routine in the sense that it was hard to
forget that he was no longer in the military. His
whole life was based at that point on the fact
that he had traded his life for death to be
in the military. So getting people to change, to come
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through that curtain, to come through to see life in
a different way after they've been shot at. I mean,
I've never been shot at, especially under orders. You know
that that to me seems like a tremendous trauma causing
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situation to take orders that allow you to realize that, hey,
part of these orders are make me subject to death.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
And they call it going in the harm's way. And
when you enlist or when you're in the military, you're
signing up to do.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
That, and when you come out, it would seem like
you would be be rewarded or welcomed for having put
yourself in harm's way for the sake of our nation
and its policies and principles and citizens. And the simple
words of thank you for your service don't seem to
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quite do it as far as I'm concerned, and I
don't think. I think most people who deliver those words
when they see someone also feel inadequate in that statement.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
I think that rings really true for a lot of
your Vietnam vetters, because look, most people when they come
back for more, they're celebrated. But for the Vietnam veterans,
there was a conundrum there. When we came home, we
weren't exactly soelebrated, and we saw people, young people die.
And I wanted to make another comment about what your
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friends said about about dying in Vietnam. There's a lot
of people that are walking around that died in Vietnam.
The person and you can ask talk to their family,
they will tell you that the person that left is
not the person that came back right right right. That
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person is gone forever and you have who you have now.
So I just wanted to kind of make that that.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
No, it's a it's a it's the kind of thing
that makes you be quiet for a moment, you know,
when you when you hear hear statements that are that deep,
you get quiet for a moment because it does make
you think, it should make you remember that this is serious.
Life is serious. Running our country is serious. The things
that we do to con tribute to make it better
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should be taken more seriously. So let's get back to
transition condition.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
I love this story. It's a very simple story. It's
a story about an officer who serves in Afghanistan who
went out with his people when they went on mission
and watched many of them take get wounded, die things
like that. But he wasn't a death docky. And when
he comes back, he climbs the corporate ladder after being
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discharged from the military, but he stays in touch with
his fast sergeant and he becomes the CEO of a corporation.
But his fast budge is telling him what's happening to
the people who served us under him, and he's reading
the news and so he's secretly creating his own program.
And after he becomes the CEO of the organization after
three years, he quit and opens up his own place
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for veterans the veterans can come to for free, and
he calls it Mission Transition Condition. That's his project and
is founded for one thing and one thing only, and
that's to help veterans process PTSD in a way to
where it does not in a way to where they
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are not killing themselves and they can have fruitful lives.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
So we then have the individuals who come with their
stories and get helped.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
Yes, and it's not only about the individuals, but it's
about the family members know who are also affected. And
it's about the staff because they many of the things
that they try are innovated. One of the big things
that he believes the leading character that was the captain
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in Afghanistan, his name is David S. Muzzards. He believes
that one of the things you have to find is
that thing that was killed in each veterans while they
start in the store, as much as you can.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
So if you were talking to and you are in
general speaking to the family of veterans and people who
want to be advocates and good citizens that show appreciation
for the commitment that veterans have done. What is some
advice that you can give for those of us who
are maybe waiting for the solutions that your movie and
(35:27):
your TV series will be providing. But as we wait,
we're still in situations where we can see veterans, where
we are in a position to help veterans cross that
bridge and realize that the new life that they're in
can be productive and should be productive, and if we
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can help that, we should help do that. What are
some of the things that you see that we're just
skipping over that could be fairly simple to do well.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
You know, first of ball think education is important and
that's this show is going to do. It's going to
educate people on you know, what are the symptoms of
PTSD and how do you deal with it? What are
the symptoms of a person? What are the things to
look for of a person that it's about to kill themsel?
(36:19):
You know, and you know what to look for, and
how do you how do you manage that? You know,
it's not enough to say to someone don't kill yourself,
you know, because in some cases, you know that's you know,
that's not going to do any good whatsoever. You know,
So how do you approach that? How do you So
it's about educating the public, and it's about educating the
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veterans themselves. Because when you're in the forest, you can't
see you know you, I mean when you're when you
see the trees, but you can't really see the forest.
So that means that you're you're shortsighted. You can't really
you don't you know, you're having problems, but you can't
see your way out of it, and.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
You think you're the only one, and you think you're
the only one that may have that problem, and.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
You think you're the only one. And so a processing
PTSD is really not as as hard as people think
it is. It can be. It can be just as
simple as understanding beginning to understand what the causal factors
of what you're feeling, and then you can begin to
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see it which is happening happening with me. You still
get lost in the forest sometimes, you still forget about
these things that you learned.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Sometimes and as you stated, and as you stated earlier,
visiting a city like Houston could simply I mean, simply
visiting a city like Houston could trigger some very negative
memories and actually cause what what type of response?
Speaker 8 (37:55):
An emotional response that does, and you have an emotional response,
you can't it overrides your your your thinking processes, because
memories are a powerful things and they just kind of
take over. So, you know, what we try to get
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veterans to do is get them to a place to
where they can see themselves clinically. At points when you're
cut up, wrapped up in emotion, it's you can't see
yourself clinically. But which means if you can't see yourself clinically,
you really don't know what's happening with you, why you're
feeling this way. Why. But if you can get veterans
(38:40):
to that point where they can recognize, oh, I'm being triggered,
that is a handout right there.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
You know, sometimes when people are working themselves out of
this situation and the situation is still bad. But if
we're not having veterans, I don't know, commit heinous crimes,
(39:11):
if we're not having veterans do spectacular suicides, you know,
maybe people think that they're all right. I don't know
if it's you know, it's kind of wrong to think.
(39:31):
The way I'm thinking right now is that maybe we
really need to have a big, crazy incident in order
for people to be sensitized to the dangers that are
really lurking behind veterans who have PSD who have not
been identified as such. And do we really have to
(39:53):
be in a war like Vietnam to create that type
of trauma in our lives that makes it impossible for
us to go forward without some type of clinical help. Uh?
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Well, you know they train us. It started to all
start the boot camp. They trained us to be to
work past our difficulties, you know, they they it's in
the training, work.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Past You're saying work past it? You mean, do you
mean work despite it?
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Work despite it? You know you're tired to push you
to your to your inmth degree and you and but
you know, find ten more inches you can go, you know.
And also there's a I don't want to say it
used to be when it was all men a mato effect.
I won't say that, but there isn't a there is
(40:43):
a warrior effect that is instilled in you during boot
camp that you do not succumb to emotion. You know,
you that's not a part of of who you are
as a soldier. Now the conflict is that is who
you are as a genuine human, caring person, even but
(41:09):
you know you're trained not just to come to that.
And if you're trained well enough not to come to that,
that becomes a problem when you come out of the
service because you know you cannot to come to what's
really happening to you. You cannot understand it because you're training.
Won't You've been trained in a way that you won't
(41:29):
even recognize that.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
You have a pain. But you're encouraged to pain.
Speaker 8 (41:36):
Mana they tell you all the time, or woman up,
man up, be strong. Well, that works in to some
extent in the military if you're in conflict, but it
doesn't work when you're on the street and long homeless,
doesn't work when you're just in a room with your thought.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
It doesn't work when you see everyone else getting along financially, economically,
family wise, relationship wise, and and you're not. But we've
the big thing that we're saying, I guess, Glynn, is
that we have to care, We have to demonstrate care
(42:20):
for each other. That that that's an important thing, and
it goes beyond how we treat veterans, But the fact
that we treat veterans are people who have served us
so well the way we do kind of opens the
door for us to talk about how we treat people
(42:41):
that are citizens, how we treat each other in general,
how we've been how we are being evidently conditioned to
not care about what happens to the guy next door
to us, or down the street from us, or across
the street from us. But I'd like to do is
about I like to take a short break, okay, and
(43:04):
when we come back, let's kind of switch reels and
talk a little bit more about the conditions that are
affecting everybody here in our country, and what we can
do to show not only the affection and concern for veterans,
but confection and concern for the widows, the children, the
people who are disadvantaged in this world of so much
(43:29):
that we tend to provide so little to those who
really need it. This is Empire Talks back on Wallace
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All right, we're back. This is Empire Talks back, and
I'm just obligated. We've got so much confusion going on
with our with our country, with our president, and that
people are constantly saying, why is he doing all these distractions?
What are all these distractions for? Well, I've said it before,
(45:28):
I said it in January, and I'm gonna and unfortunately,
I have not been able to find enough strings of
information to take me away from that attitude, that vision,
that conclusion that I see coming, and that's that our
president is doing everything that he can do to stay
(45:48):
out of jail. Everything that he's doing is based on
trying to stay out of jail. He was on his
way to jail when he got elected. And we find
more and more of that information to be true. And
we could be a little upset about our Department of
Justice and those folks who were prosecuting for moving so slow,
(46:10):
but evidently they didn't believe what they were seeing. They
didn't believe what they were prosecuting. That we are dealing
with a man with more audacity and more self love
than we've ever seen before. He has created a situation
where now he not only has his own Supreme Court,
(46:35):
he has set up his own bureaucracy full of people
who think that his stuff doesn't stink, that love him enough,
or love themselves so little that they're willing to follow
him anywhere, even to the point of destroying America's legacy.
(46:55):
Here's a man who has decided that we should all
consumer heroes out of our Confederate generals who terrorized the country,
who were treasonists. Robert E. Lee is not a hero,
(47:18):
but Trump decides that he is. We have wars that
he has constantly with Russia Ukraine. Now he says, he
claims that he's ended eight wars, despite the fact that
he has created total disruption in America in terms of
(47:41):
pulling people apart, pushing people against each other. I think
that the solution for him is not to wait until
the twenty six elections. The elections of twenty six. I
don't know if he's even going to let that happen.
And people have looked at me like I'm crazy when
I say that I think that he needs to be impeached. Now,
(48:06):
we keep digging through these Epstein files as though we're
going to find something there that will automatically make him
decide to quit. We know better. If we're looking for
things that he's done against the law enough to be impeached,
we could simply look at his irs sheet.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
Or his destruction of the East Wing, his destruction.
Speaker 7 (48:29):
Of the East Wing. I mean, we could pick any
one thing, or we could pick them all in line up.
And every week that we try to impeach him and
the Republicans refuse to do it, we could go it
again the next week with another issue. But I think
it needs to be done. That we need to stop
allowing people to accept what he's done as normal enough
(48:52):
that we don't impeach him. I don't know, Glenn, You've
given your time, You've served your time in the military.
Mark You're one of the smartest people that I know
in terms of politics and paying attention to those things.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
It's just all angry right now. I got to tell you,
there's one hundred different things. We could talk ten minutes
and just list everything he's done, yes, that he shouldn't
have been left and off, and to.
Speaker 7 (49:17):
Have our congress members tell us that, well, you know,
it's not time yet.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
I was at a meeting where well, the Republican Congress, well, I'm.
Speaker 7 (49:27):
Going to say I'd like to say that, but I
don't expect the Republicans to come forward and attempt to
impeach him at this point. But I do expect George
Aguilar peagular, pedagular to step forward. I do expect any
Democrat congressional person to step forward and justify and be
(49:51):
able to justify impeaching this guy.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
As Hakim Jeffries said, the minority leader says, get lost.
That's all he says, just get lost. You gotta get
out of here.
Speaker 7 (50:02):
Yeah, but he's not gonna get lost. We gotta say,
let's dump Trump. There's an action that's required on our side.
When I say our, I mean the citizens. I mean
the Congress, the people who recognize. Only the people who
recognize the problem are the ones responsible for doing something
about it.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
As my friend Anti Maxine, I call her, Congresswoman Maxine
Waters says, you know twenty fifth Amendment now that.
Speaker 7 (50:30):
This disturb and that depends again on Republicans to step
in and do that because it has to be his
inner circle that affects the twenty fifth Amendment. Am I correct?
Speaker 8 (50:40):
Right?
Speaker 5 (50:41):
Yeah, the cabinet and I can rely on those people.
Speaker 7 (50:42):
We can't rely on those guys. It's I don't know, Mark,
You're you're a lot more astute than I am when
it comes to the procedure and things of that sort.
Why can you see a reason we had not stepped
up and used that magic word of impeachment ten times
(51:05):
a day in terms of making people realize how critical
it is, the policy changes, the legacy impact that this
man is having on not only America but the whole
the whole planet.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
You got a house divided, that's why. And you know
the Democrats are the Republicans. At some point you have
to have some scruples. If it was a Democrat doing this,
I know Democrats probably would say, okay, it's time to
remove the Democratic president.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
True, And look what you know Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
You know, he stumbled over a few words in a
debate and they were all, you know, you got he
can't be president anymore. Republicans, man, they just look away.
Speaker 7 (51:43):
Or you're just too old. Yeah, you know, you're you're
you're you're not remembering things.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Trump almost walked into a wall the other day. Well
he did, from what Mike Johnson prevented it. But yeah,
Mike Johnson grabbed him like a foot away from the wall.
Speaker 7 (51:58):
I was making a mistake. I was thinking about a
time when Epstein said that Trump walked into the wall
and left his noseprint on the on the on the
glass as he was looking through the window at these
young girls swimming in the pool.
Speaker 5 (52:13):
Include guardians of the pedophiles.
Speaker 7 (52:15):
Guardians of the pedophile Glenn, what do you have to
say about this situation? Or are you.
Speaker 13 (52:22):
So?
Speaker 8 (52:22):
You know? I took the ode to the Constitution, and
I think that the problem is that this man has
changed himself and tried to alter himself and make himself
the Constitution. But I tell you every service member that's
(52:44):
who they support. Uh, that's what they took a pledge
for to uphold the constitutions. And I think that that's
been a safeguard for us In terms of this president.
I absolutely abhor everything that he stands for. First of all,
(53:06):
he's an open racist and that doesn't belong anywhere in
the American government because that was gotten open racism was
gotten rid of a long time ago. And so it's like,
you know, why are you going to try to bring
something like that back into the open. And you know,
(53:30):
these these people that they call the ICE, I'm wondering
what who who? Who did? Who was there?
Speaker 7 (53:37):
What kind of does ICE take?
Speaker 8 (53:40):
Yeah? Is there old to Trump or to uh to
the South, or I don't. I really don't understand what's
going on because these are the kind of activities that
are purely un American.
Speaker 7 (53:54):
Well, the guy stood up to ask him about the constitution.
Where you followed the constitution, and he said, right, he
had a question on that. I don't know if that's
really necessary. It's amazing, but it's pitiful, and it's something
(54:21):
that we in California. You know, the weather is so
good it's it's almost easy to forget. But on a
rainy day like this, on a snowy day like this,
it's easier for me to remember that we also have
not only bad weather, we have bad government, and we
(54:45):
as a people are usually the ones that we could
end up blaming for the bad government. I expect that
I'm responsible to some extent for Trump. I could have
spoken louder, I probably could have called some people in
Georgia or Mississippi that I didn't. But then again, that's
(55:08):
like the victim. You know, it's the victim's fault, and
we are the victims. The thing that I have to
remind people and remind myself of is that Donald Trump
is a tremendous con man. He is great. How many
people do you know that could lie and be ignored
(55:33):
in the middle of the lie, believed enthusiastically at the
end of the lie, and then know that they've been
lied to and still act happy about it. And I
cannot believe that our Republican elected officials.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
Are student absolute right.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
You know, Trump is the best liar ever, that's the
one thing good he is good at. So is Mikey Johnson.
They do a stream of lies that like oh jd Vance.
They just lie in a stream and it sounds so convincing,
but every one of the things the words are saying,
they're lying.
Speaker 7 (56:07):
I'm surprised that Mikey Johnson's ability to lie. Oh you
know it's it would seem to me eating all that
good Louisiana soul food would have affected his ability to lie.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
It's like got an ai in his brain just to lie.
Speaker 8 (56:21):
My grandmother used to say, you lie like a rug. Oh,
and that's all the rug does.
Speaker 9 (56:27):
Well.
Speaker 7 (56:27):
My mother's always said that once I catch you in
a lie, I can't help but wonder how many I've
missed you in. So Trump doesn't even worry about that.
You know, he'll remind you of the lie he certainly will.
Speaker 8 (56:43):
I think part of the part of the problem while
he is that we have a guy that got in
the office that never has, never has had to pay
a price for anything that he has done, and that's unreal,
especially in America. And so in a way, I can
see why he kind of thinks of himself as a
(57:04):
king or something, because you know, he gets away with everything.
But there has to be a point, uh, And I
feel like it's coming soon.
Speaker 5 (57:15):
They let get away with everything, that's why.
Speaker 8 (57:17):
They let them, but there has to be a point,
and maybe Epstein to stay with Epstein, Is that is
that point?
Speaker 7 (57:23):
Well, I don't know. I'll bet you there's nothing in
those Epstein tapes that could make this guy blush my
bacon a little ticked off that we're that we're laughing
at him. But I think that the strongest thing that
could happen would be for Putin to tell the truth
about whatever is going on with Trump and Putin and
(57:45):
the relationship that the secrets that they hold between them.
I'm more concerned about the secrets between Putin and Trump
than I am between Epstein and Trump. Epstein's guilty enough
for the rest of the world to see Putin, like
Trump has his cheering section that makes you wonder, well,
(58:06):
what is he really got going on?
Speaker 5 (58:08):
Maybe Putin was involved with the Epstein murder.
Speaker 7 (58:12):
Maybe he did it for him, but he was he
did it here in the United States. I would expect
that there is probably more of a chance that Trump
had something to do with it than Putin. I doubt
if Epstein's records are going to make people more upset
with Putin.
Speaker 5 (58:32):
All speculative, but you know, we're worried about the sex
part of this, and we should be.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
It's terrible, But this is a murder that happened. I
believe it was a murder. That's what they're really trying
to cover up.
Speaker 7 (58:41):
I you know, I can't. I can't resist the thought
of agreeing with you on that one.
Speaker 8 (58:46):
I think I think there's several murders that have taken place.
Speaker 7 (58:50):
I think I think that some of the Republicans are
probably concerned about murders that haven't taken place yet.
Speaker 5 (59:00):
That ain't funny, Wallace, walk right up to the line there.
Speaker 7 (59:03):
That's not funny, Wallace, that's not funny. Marjorie Taylor Green
says she's not afraid, but she didn't fly home the
other day she took the train.
Speaker 5 (59:16):
She's got all kinds of hate mail and threats and
everything else. I have turned on her.
Speaker 7 (59:21):
I decided to not send my letter that was hateful
to her. She's turning around. She may become somebody that
we can count on. As a matter of fact. My wish,
my wish is that she and the congress lady from
Texas Crawford. Yeah, I'd like to see them get in
(59:45):
the room and kind of quietly settle things and come
out partners.
Speaker 5 (59:49):
Be careful who you hate, you might have to love
them later on.
Speaker 7 (59:52):
Well, that's right, that's right. And I think that both
of them have been staging levels of hate and we'll
get the chance to see about it. But one thing
about hate, I can point at it and say, I
don't use it for you, guys, I love you, and
I love the fact that you spent
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All right, this is Empire Talks Back. I'm Wallace Allen.
It is a beautiful, beautiful Southern California day, especially if
you're not if you're challenged visually. The beauty is in
the spirit and not in the eyeball unless you're in
the mountains. You love that snow. We are we are
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with snow up in our mountains. We are, We're still
only fifty five miles from the ocean. It's a beautiful
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jealous of southern California all your life, were for the
last six months, Today is your day. You don't have
to be jealous. Today. You can enjoy being where you are,
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because I'm sure that you are at least Wait a minute,
I just got a report from back east. Well, I
guess we're a little bit better here than we are
there too. This is Empire Talks Back. I'm Wallace Allen.
I'm gonna talk to you a little bit today about
a couple of things that I'm sure on your mind.
And we have a guest, mister Glenn Tower out of Austin, Texas,
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and we are extremely blessed to have mister Mark Westwood
in the studio with us today. He is uh someone
that can toss ideas around and and sling information with
the best of us. And of course we have the Moodmaster. Now,
if you have not been sleeping under a rock, you've
been you have been distorted information wise one way or another.
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With these Epstein files, it seems like as much as
I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm in favor of
the under of the under guy, of the little guy,
of the person that is being left out in most cases.
But today I've got something that's that And I hope,
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I hope my friend Fred doesn't get upset with me.
But I'm wondering why in the heck with these Epstein files,
the only person we end up talking about is Trump.
We've got a incidents evidently that took place with these
young ladies. We've had victims at number, I don't know
how many, but we've talked about a conspiracy, we talk
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about sex trafficking, and it seems like the only traffic
is between Epstein, the Prince and Trump. And I know better,
you know better, we do. Yeah, And as we read
these read these emails, we should be looking for any
and everybody who may have had anything to do if
the negative way with these young ladies.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You know, Instead, all they're doing is offering distractions. You know,
we have a new acronym for GOP, which was the
Grand Old Party back in the day.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Is that what that divisionally meant originally.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Meant grand Old Party, but now it's called.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
That it meant go off in pee or something.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
You know, but go on with Guardians of pedophiles, Guardians
of pedophiles.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
You know, that would be funny if it wasn't so true.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
It is sad, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
It's an amazingly sad thing when we have people who've
been elected, people who've run around talking about how qualified
they are to serve, how desirous they are to be
of service to the constituents, and they close their eyes
to future voters, They close their eyes to people who
have been neglected, people who are sensitive to others who
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are being neglected, and they just close their eyes.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There's victims here, there's victims. These little girls were victims.
One little girl is so distraught, and as an older woman,
she committed suicide.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
That's amazing that, it's an amazing thing that and the
fact that she committed suicide evidently gives our go off
and pee guys.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Grant Guardians of pedophiles. I'm sorry the GOP Guardians of pedophiles.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
Guardians of pedophiles to give the guardians of pedophiles an excuse,
a means of continuing to walk on the other side
of logic. It makes no sense to me, makes no
sense at all.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
They've got a picture with Epstein now and Pam Bondi
who's the Attorney general, and Trump all buddy buddy from
back in the day too, she was writing on it,
and of course Mikey Johnson.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
And Mikey Johnson, and then this deal with Ms Maxwell
being given the best of prison circumstances. I don't understand
how we, as a civilized nation can continue to walk
this way. We've got to straighten up and mark, you know,
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to some extent. That means we're gonna have to We're
gonna have to figure out how to get along with
people that don't want to be gotten along with. I
find myself looking at Marjorie Taylor Green as somebody that
maybe this girl is going to be a convert, maybe
she's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
A Maybe she has some scruples, maybe she has some ethics.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Either that or at least she's got some type of
judgment to say, I don't want to be caught walking
hand in hand with these absolute you know, and that's
a terrible thing. So that that's one of the things
I wanted to get off my chest, and I'm hoping
that we will somehow make a decision to look at
everybody that's involved. If their name is brought up, we
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should investigate. I mean anyway, Mark, thank you for being
here and I look forward to us having further discussions
as we go along. But right now, I'd like to
introduce mister Glenn Towery. Glenn is a friend of mine.
We went to college together. He's also a veteran, Vietnam veteran.
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He's also a veteran. If I want to get my
mind straight, I want to I want to contribute to
the world. I want to do things that are going
to make the world a better place. He's in that
particular army and war. He is a matter of fact,
that's put together the Austin I guess, Glenn, are you there?
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Yes? How you doing today?
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Great?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Great?
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Great? You put together an event, a series of events
that the city of Austin thought so much of. They've
given you almost a month of of access to venues
and support to put on to put on.
Speaker 11 (15:13):
Austin Veterans Art Festival.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
That's an amazing thing. So your commitment there goes to
show that you're not just trying to get your money,
which you spent a lot of time doing. You had
to you you left the military in a disabled condition,
and uh, unfortunately they treated you like they treat like
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they treated treat black folk. Well you know there we
well probably does you know. We we talk about many things.
One of the things as we discuss our our presidency,
our president administration, as we talk about how they walk
the edge of white supremacy and racism. But they are
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not the leaders. They are not the first to do that.
Our military has set a terrible example of how to
honor its participants, its veterans, a terrible example. But at
the same time, you and many others have demonstrated your
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tenacity and your determination to not just serve yourself, but
to serve others. And you set a good example by
fighting to get your rights. I'm sitting here with a
young man who's a veteran, mister Anthony Garcia, my mood master.
That beautiful bass music you hear along with my voice.
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He's one of the people who has had a fairly
decent experience with the vets, mainly because veterans administration, mainly
because he's been willing to take some blame. You know
I talked to him. He'll say, well, I didn't sign
up early enough, I didn't do what I could have
done or should have done. Well, there's something about secret
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information that makes it hard for people to do what
they're supposed to do. And it appears that getting veterans'
benefits is a secret unless you are well, if you're
a minority, well and not minority, because number wise, you know,
if you're not white. And I'm not trying to make
anybody upset except people that are get upset with injustice.
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If you're not white and you come out of the
military after war, from the people I've talked to you, you
don't necessarily get the information as to how to get
your benefits. Anthony says, though, but once he got hooked up,
once he was able to get a an advocate, he
was able to make things happen for himself. On the
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other hand, Glenn, I know you spent what eight.
Speaker 11 (17:52):
Years, ten years, eight years fighting for your getting a
your benefits, but it wasn't a go ahead.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
The VA's ennefits were twenty five years. I bought and
I was able to get my service connected disability complete
in total, which I had been for twenty five years.
They proved that, but they would only go back so far.
So then I went after the Navy for putting me
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out on the street, out of the service that way,
because I originally had signed up for four years of
service and I got injured in Vietnam and I was
bounced and just basically placed on the street, injured, still
unwell after twenty months.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Well, do you know, the circumstances were common. You weren't
the only one that happened to that that happened to unfortunately,
but your spirit, Glenn. I met you after your experience
in VA and at San Jose State. You were in
the arts. Matter of fact, it was only recently that
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I've found out in our conversation that you were not
a student at San Jose State. You were in everything
that I thought was important going on at San Jose
State at the time. But uh, your your performance, your
your your art, you're digging your foxhole in the world
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of art, seemed to have I don't know, you've you've
always appeared more than normal to me.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Uh, You've you've.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Actually stepped into the you know, the Now that I
know more about the circumstances, you're actually a superstar, because
everybody doesn't know how to respond in a positive way
for themselves in the midst of the type of pressure
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that you were placed on. So we're not going to
spend a lot of time talking about that pressure, but
we are going to spend a lot of time talking
about how you respond to pressure. Glenn, you moved to Texas.
If I had a close up with my face here
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when I say you moved to Texas, you'd see this
look of wonderment in my eye. Why in the heck
would somebody leave California to go to Texas? And then
what are you going to do when you get there?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
But then, well there was there was a big reason.
My wife is the youngest than her family. She's from Texas,
and she had ten brothers and sisters. We got to
a point to where they were transitioning rather rapidly, and
she turned to me one day and she said, Baby,
can we move to Texas so I can spend some
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time with my brothers and tests? And it just touched
me so much the way she said it that I said, yeah,
let's do it. But I won't move to Houston. I
wouldn't move to Houston because of the humidity there. Every
time I go to Houston in the summer, it reminds
me of Vietnam, and it triggers me.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Is that in general, where her family is, where she
was born and raised, You're a good friend. My wife,
Josephine asked this morning. She said, Daddy, why did they
move to Texas in the first place. Then I said
something to that effect. I think it was had something
to do with Jannita's family. But you have done a
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yeoman's job there. You have not run off and hid.
You have Like I said, how long were you in
Austin before the Austin Veterans Art Festival was put together?
And how hard was that for you to actually do
with the city of Austin.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Well, the very first thing I thought performed was the
Veterans Suicide with Engine Channel, and Austin Veterans Arts Festival
is a part of that. It came about because we
were just simply a channel. All we were doing was
shooting projects for veterans to put on our channel, and
we had no outreach programs, and I thought, well, let's
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do an art outreach program. So we were founded in
twenty fifteen. I moved to back detectives. In twenty thirteen
twenty fifteen, I founded a Veterans' suicide Prevention channel, and
in twenty eighteen we started the often Art festival Atome
Veterans Arts Festival.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Let's talk commented about the suicide prevention channel. I note
we've had you on the air earlier in our career,
and at that point where you initiated the Veterans' suicide
Prevention Channel, I think we were talking about veterans dying
at a rate of around eighteen to twenty a day.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Actually it's twenty two, and they can't convince me that
you know that it's not still twenty two or more today.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
And the reason they can't do that is because of
the record keeping. Am I correcting that?
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Yes, the statistic there is no there is no national
of one place where records are kept. All records are
being kept individually by state and then they basically like
kind of somebody, the VA puts all together what the
information they get from the state, and then they correlate
a figure. And it's been shown already that some of
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their correlations have been off as well as other things
that happened with the VA. I don't know what's going
on there sometimes, But like in twenty eighteen, they had
a massive, a massive budget for suicide prevention and the
VA didn't spend one diamond.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I beg your pardon.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
In twenty eighteen, they had a massive budget for suicide
prevention and in that year, the DA didn't spend one
dime of it.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
That's amazing, that's amazing. Okay, So what happened next year?
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Maybe let me just say that, Okay, I said one dime.
Let me just say that they didn't hardly spend anything.
They may have spent a dime, they may have spent
a couple of dimes. Yeah, so that they had, they
didn't spend very much at all.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
So we've had since twenty eighteen, this is twenty twenty five.
We've had seven years of Veterans Days, seven years of
Memorial Days, and we are still looking the other way
as our president goes down to Venezuela and creates a
terrorism statement so that he can effectively create another distraction war.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
It's really terrible. I think what's going on right now now.
Everybody is being victimized, even our own citizens are being victimized.
If you're third world country out there, you've got to
keep looking over your shoulders, and it's just it's just
really bad. But you know, my concern has always been
and still is today, a suicide prevention. I was, actually
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I became the very first suicide prevention officer in America
in twenty sixteen when I was appointed in that position
by the DAD, and then I wrote the program for
the Military Order of the Purple Heart, who got their
first suicide prevention officer the following year twenty seventeen from
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gentlemen who was on my board of the Veterans Suicide
Prevention General. And I was also the very first suicide
prevention officer for the DA for the VFW, only it
wasn't on the state level, the district level, but now
they had last year they had a state level personality,
so I wrote their program as well for that.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
So though VA has actually a budget for suicide prevention, yes,
and when did they create that budget?
Speaker 8 (26:19):
That budget has been created years, many many years ago.
And that's why it's a big It was a big
surprise when it hit the news and anyone can can
look this stuff online. When we discovered that no money,
virtually no money was spent in twenty eighteen on Veterans'
Suicide Prevention. That really hurts me too, because I'm one
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of those veterans who actually did try to kill himself,
and you know, my recovery from it was just so bad.
I said, well, I'm not going to do that no
more because it's just it's taking me If I do it.
I had to be sure that I really did it.
But I got put into a group called p r RC,
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which is the second highest level of treatment for people
with PTSD. It's a day they call it the Day
Treatment Program and I was in that program for four
years and that's what really helped me. But everybody can't
get into a program like that.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
The difficulty. So let me ask you this, sir. What
type of program does the VA have now for suicide prevention?
Are they spending money? Are they investing in our veterans?
Are we still trying to figure out how to save
money instead of saving lives?
Speaker 8 (27:38):
Well, you know, I'm not really exactly sure they are
spending money. They do have programs now, they're starting to
form relationships with communities, But I kind of got frustrated
because you know, the whole idea of trying to do
something that's really really positive, but still getting the same
result by doing the same thing over and over, the
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suicide rate has not been affected substantially at all. I mean,
so if you're doing something that's not working, that means
you have to try to do something else. Yeah, and
so I've been thinking outside the box, and that's the
reason why I have created the very first television series
about healing veterans and preventing suicide in the history of America.
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It's called Project Mission Transition Condition.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Other than the title, I think it's a great idea.
I just think your title is too long. I get
lost on the end of it. But then hearing the
whole title, you know, lets you know what the what
the real mission is? Uh, that's a that's a working title.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Tell us a little bit about your TV series concept.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
I think we've got a superhero involved there or do we?
What's well, we.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Have just basically a starting round.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Well, let me say this, I consider you a superhero. Okay,
because Glenn, the only thing that you've tried to do
that you've failed in that I know of is committing suicide.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Thank God, and thank God for that.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
And you know, so you are a superhero in the
sense that your life could be gone. I had a
guest last week who is a veteran who also works
to save veterans and make veterans. He's an advocate, and
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one of the things he says is that I gave
up my life for death. He was expecting to die,
and he was prepared to die when he went to Vietnam.
And his issue is that since he didn't die, creating
a new life has been his goal as he returned,
and figuring that out even was the big problem because
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when he returned from Vietnam, he kept the same pattern
and routine in the sense that it was hard to
forget that he was no longer in the military. His
whole life was based at that point on the fact
that he had traded his life for death to be
in the military. So getting people to change, to come
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through that curtain, to come through to see life in
a different way after they've been shot at. I mean,
I've never been shot at, especially under orders. You know
that that to me seems like a tremendous trauma causing
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situation to take orders that allow you to realize that, hey,
part of these orders are make me subject to death.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
And they call it going in the harm's way. And
when you enlist or when you're in the military, you're
signing up to do.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
That, and when you come out, it would seem like
you would be be rewarded or welcomed for having put
yourself in harm's way for the sake of our nation
and its policies and principles and citizens. And the simple
words of thank you for your service don't seem to
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quite do it as far as I'm concerned, and I
don't think. I think most people who deliver those words
when they see someone also feel inadequate in that statement.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
I think that rings really true for a lot of
your Vietnam vetters, because look, most people when they come
back for more, they're celebrated. But for the Vietnam veterans,
there was a conundrum there. When we came home, we
weren't exactly soelebrated, and we saw people, young people die.
And I wanted to make another comment about what your
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friends said about about dying in Vietnam. There's a lot
of people that are walking around that died in Vietnam.
The person and you can ask talk to their family,
they will tell you that the person that left is
not the person that came back right right right. That
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person is gone forever and you have who you have now.
So I just wanted to kind of make that that.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
No, it's a it's a it's the kind of thing
that makes you be quiet for a moment, you know,
when you when you hear hear statements that are that deep,
you get quiet for a moment because it does make
you think, it should make you remember that this is serious.
Life is serious. Running our country is serious. The things
that we do to con tribute to make it better
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should be taken more seriously. So let's get back to
transition condition.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
I love this story. It's a very simple story. It's
a story about an officer who serves in Afghanistan who
went out with his people when they went on mission
and watched many of them take get wounded, die things
like that. But he wasn't a death docky. And when
he comes back, he climbs the corporate ladder after being
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discharged from the military, but he stays in touch with
his fast sergeant and he becomes the CEO of a corporation.
But his fast budge is telling him what's happening to
the people who served us under him, and he's reading
the news and so he's secretly creating his own program.
And after he becomes the CEO of the organization after
three years, he quit and opens up his own place
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for veterans the veterans can come to for free, and
he calls it Mission Transition Condition. That's his project and
is founded for one thing and one thing only, and
that's to help veterans process PTSD in a way to
where it does not in a way to where they
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are not killing themselves and they can have fruitful lives.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
So we then have the individuals who come with their
stories and get helped.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
Yes, and it's not only about the individuals, but it's
about the family members know who are also affected. And
it's about the staff because they many of the things
that they try are innovated. One of the big things
that he believes the leading character that was the captain
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in Afghanistan, his name is David S. Muzzards. He believes
that one of the things you have to find is
that thing that was killed in each veterans while they
start in the store, as much as you can.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
So if you were talking to and you are in
general speaking to the family of veterans and people who
want to be advocates and good citizens that show appreciation
for the commitment that veterans have done. What is some
advice that you can give for those of us who
are maybe waiting for the solutions that your movie and
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your TV series will be providing. But as we wait,
we're still in situations where we can see veterans, where
we are in a position to help veterans cross that
bridge and realize that the new life that they're in
can be productive and should be productive, and if we
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can help that, we should help do that. What are
some of the things that you see that we're just
skipping over that could be fairly simple to do well.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
You know, first of ball think education is important and
that's this show is going to do. It's going to
educate people on you know, what are the symptoms of
PTSD and how do you deal with it? What are
the symptoms of a person? What are the things to
look for of a person that it's about to kill themsel?
(36:19):
You know, and you know what to look for, and
how do you how do you manage that? You know,
it's not enough to say to someone don't kill yourself,
you know, because in some cases, you know that's you know,
that's not going to do any good whatsoever. You know,
So how do you approach that? How do you So
it's about educating the public, and it's about educating the
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veterans themselves. Because when you're in the forest, you can't
see you know you, I mean when you're when you
see the trees, but you can't really see the forest.
So that means that you're you're shortsighted. You can't really
you don't you know, you're having problems, but you can't
see your way out of it, and.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
You think you're the only one, and you think you're
the only one that may have that problem, and.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
You think you're the only one. And so a processing
PTSD is really not as as hard as people think
it is. It can be. It can be just as
simple as understanding beginning to understand what the causal factors
of what you're feeling, and then you can begin to
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see it which is happening happening with me. You still
get lost in the forest sometimes, you still forget about
these things that you learned.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Sometimes and as you stated, and as you stated earlier,
visiting a city like Houston could simply I mean, simply
visiting a city like Houston could trigger some very negative
memories and actually cause what what type of response?
Speaker 8 (37:55):
An emotional response that does, and you have an emotional response,
you can't it overrides your your your thinking processes, because
memories are a powerful things and they just kind of
take over. So, you know, what we try to get
(38:17):
veterans to do is get them to a place to
where they can see themselves clinically. At points when you're
cut up, wrapped up in emotion, it's you can't see
yourself clinically. But which means if you can't see yourself clinically,
you really don't know what's happening with you, why you're
feeling this way. Why. But if you can get veterans
(38:40):
to that point where they can recognize, oh, I'm being triggered,
that is a handout right there.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
You know, sometimes when people are working themselves out of
this situation and the situation is still bad. But if
we're not having veterans, I don't know, commit heinous crimes,
(39:11):
if we're not having veterans do spectacular suicides, you know,
maybe people think that they're all right. I don't know
if it's you know, it's kind of wrong to think.
(39:31):
The way I'm thinking right now is that maybe we
really need to have a big, crazy incident in order
for people to be sensitized to the dangers that are
really lurking behind veterans who have PSD who have not
been identified as such. And do we really have to
(39:53):
be in a war like Vietnam to create that type
of trauma in our lives that makes it impossible for
us to go forward without some type of clinical help. Uh?
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Well, you know they train us. It started to all
start the boot camp. They trained us to be to
work past our difficulties, you know, they they it's in
the training, work.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Past You're saying work past it? You mean, do you
mean work despite it?
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Work despite it? You know you're tired to push you
to your to your inmth degree and you and but
you know, find ten more inches you can go, you know.
And also there's a I don't want to say it
used to be when it was all men a mato effect.
I won't say that, but there isn't a there is
(40:43):
a warrior effect that is instilled in you during boot
camp that you do not succumb to emotion. You know,
you that's not a part of of who you are
as a soldier. Now the conflict is that is who
you are as a genuine human, caring person, even but
(41:09):
you know you're trained not just to come to that.
And if you're trained well enough not to come to that,
that becomes a problem when you come out of the
service because you know you cannot to come to what's
really happening to you. You cannot understand it because you're training.
Won't You've been trained in a way that you won't
(41:29):
even recognize that.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
You have a pain. But you're encouraged to pain.
Speaker 8 (41:36):
Mana they tell you all the time, or woman up,
man up, be strong. Well, that works in to some
extent in the military if you're in conflict, but it
doesn't work when you're on the street and long homeless,
doesn't work when you're just in a room with your thought.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
It doesn't work when you see everyone else getting along financially, economically,
family wise, relationship wise, and and you're not. But we've
the big thing that we're saying, I guess, Glynn, is
that we have to care, We have to demonstrate care
(42:20):
for each other. That that that's an important thing, and
it goes beyond how we treat veterans, But the fact
that we treat veterans are people who have served us
so well the way we do kind of opens the
door for us to talk about how we treat people
(42:41):
that are citizens, how we treat each other in general,
how we've been how we are being evidently conditioned to
not care about what happens to the guy next door
to us, or down the street from us, or across
the street from us. But I'd like to do is
about I like to take a short break, okay, and
(43:04):
when we come back, let's kind of switch reels and
talk a little bit more about the conditions that are
affecting everybody here in our country, and what we can
do to show not only the affection and concern for veterans,
but confection and concern for the widows, the children, the
people who are disadvantaged in this world of so much
(43:29):
that we tend to provide so little to those who
really need it. This is Empire Talks back on Wallace
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especially since it's so easy to do. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 7 (44:53):
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Speaker 6 (44:54):
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Speaker 8 (45:00):
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Speaker 7 (45:08):
All right, we're back. This is Empire Talks back, and
I'm just obligated. We've got so much confusion going on
with our with our country, with our president, and that
people are constantly saying, why is he doing all these distractions?
What are all these distractions for? Well, I've said it before,
(45:28):
I said it in January, and I'm gonna and unfortunately,
I have not been able to find enough strings of
information to take me away from that attitude, that vision,
that conclusion that I see coming, and that's that our
president is doing everything that he can do to stay
(45:48):
out of jail. Everything that he's doing is based on
trying to stay out of jail. He was on his
way to jail when he got elected. And we find
more and more of that information to be true. And
we could be a little upset about our Department of
Justice and those folks who were prosecuting for moving so slow,
(46:10):
but evidently they didn't believe what they were seeing. They
didn't believe what they were prosecuting. That we are dealing
with a man with more audacity and more self love
than we've ever seen before. He has created a situation
where now he not only has his own Supreme Court,
(46:35):
he has set up his own bureaucracy full of people
who think that his stuff doesn't stink, that love him enough,
or love themselves so little that they're willing to follow
him anywhere, even to the point of destroying America's legacy.
(46:55):
Here's a man who has decided that we should all
consumer heroes out of our Confederate generals who terrorized the country,
who were treasonists. Robert E. Lee is not a hero,
(47:18):
but Trump decides that he is. We have wars that
he has constantly with Russia Ukraine. Now he says, he
claims that he's ended eight wars, despite the fact that
he has created total disruption in America in terms of
(47:41):
pulling people apart, pushing people against each other. I think
that the solution for him is not to wait until
the twenty six elections. The elections of twenty six. I
don't know if he's even going to let that happen.
And people have looked at me like I'm crazy when
I say that I think that he needs to be impeached. Now,
(48:06):
we keep digging through these Epstein files as though we're
going to find something there that will automatically make him
decide to quit. We know better. If we're looking for
things that he's done against the law enough to be impeached,
we could simply look at his irs sheet.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
Or his destruction of the East Wing, his destruction.
Speaker 7 (48:29):
Of the East Wing. I mean, we could pick any
one thing, or we could pick them all in line up.
And every week that we try to impeach him and
the Republicans refuse to do it, we could go it
again the next week with another issue. But I think
it needs to be done. That we need to stop
allowing people to accept what he's done as normal enough
(48:52):
that we don't impeach him. I don't know, Glenn, You've
given your time, You've served your time in the military.
Mark You're one of the smartest people that I know
in terms of politics and paying attention to those things.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
It's just all angry right now. I got to tell you,
there's one hundred different things. We could talk ten minutes
and just list everything he's done, yes, that he shouldn't
have been left and off, and to.
Speaker 7 (49:17):
Have our congress members tell us that, well, you know,
it's not time yet.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
I was at a meeting where well, the Republican Congress, well, I'm.
Speaker 7 (49:27):
Going to say I'd like to say that, but I
don't expect the Republicans to come forward and attempt to
impeach him at this point. But I do expect George
Aguilar peagular, pedagular to step forward. I do expect any
Democrat congressional person to step forward and justify and be
(49:51):
able to justify impeaching this guy.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
As Hakim Jeffries said, the minority leader says, get lost.
That's all he says, just get lost. You gotta get
out of here.
Speaker 7 (50:02):
Yeah, but he's not gonna get lost. We gotta say,
let's dump Trump. There's an action that's required on our side.
When I say our, I mean the citizens. I mean
the Congress, the people who recognize. Only the people who
recognize the problem are the ones responsible for doing something
about it.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
As my friend Anti Maxine, I call her, Congresswoman Maxine
Waters says, you know twenty fifth Amendment now that.
Speaker 7 (50:30):
This disturb and that depends again on Republicans to step
in and do that because it has to be his
inner circle that affects the twenty fifth Amendment. Am I correct?
Speaker 8 (50:40):
Right?
Speaker 5 (50:41):
Yeah, the cabinet and I can rely on those people.
Speaker 7 (50:42):
We can't rely on those guys. It's I don't know, Mark,
You're you're a lot more astute than I am when
it comes to the procedure and things of that sort.
Why can you see a reason we had not stepped
up and used that magic word of impeachment ten times
(51:05):
a day in terms of making people realize how critical
it is, the policy changes, the legacy impact that this
man is having on not only America but the whole
the whole planet.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
You got a house divided, that's why. And you know
the Democrats are the Republicans. At some point you have
to have some scruples. If it was a Democrat doing this,
I know Democrats probably would say, okay, it's time to
remove the Democratic president.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
True, And look what you know Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
You know, he stumbled over a few words in a
debate and they were all, you know, you got he
can't be president anymore. Republicans, man, they just look away.
Speaker 7 (51:43):
Or you're just too old. Yeah, you know, you're you're
you're you're not remembering things.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Trump almost walked into a wall the other day. Well
he did, from what Mike Johnson prevented it. But yeah,
Mike Johnson grabbed him like a foot away from the wall.
Speaker 7 (51:58):
I was making a mistake. I was thinking about a
time when Epstein said that Trump walked into the wall
and left his noseprint on the on the on the
glass as he was looking through the window at these
young girls swimming in the pool.
Speaker 5 (52:13):
Include guardians of the pedophiles.
Speaker 7 (52:15):
Guardians of the pedophile Glenn, what do you have to
say about this situation? Or are you.
Speaker 13 (52:22):
So?
Speaker 8 (52:22):
You know? I took the ode to the Constitution, and
I think that the problem is that this man has
changed himself and tried to alter himself and make himself
the Constitution. But I tell you every service member that's
(52:44):
who they support. Uh, that's what they took a pledge
for to uphold the constitutions. And I think that that's
been a safeguard for us In terms of this president.
I absolutely abhor everything that he stands for. First of all,
(53:06):
he's an open racist and that doesn't belong anywhere in
the American government because that was gotten open racism was
gotten rid of a long time ago. And so it's like,
you know, why are you going to try to bring
something like that back into the open. And you know,
(53:30):
these these people that they call the ICE, I'm wondering
what who who? Who did? Who was there?
Speaker 7 (53:37):
What kind of does ICE take?
Speaker 8 (53:40):
Yeah? Is there old to Trump or to uh to
the South, or I don't. I really don't understand what's
going on because these are the kind of activities that
are purely un American.
Speaker 7 (53:54):
Well, the guy stood up to ask him about the constitution.
Where you followed the constitution, and he said, right, he
had a question on that. I don't know if that's
really necessary. It's amazing, but it's pitiful, and it's something
(54:21):
that we in California. You know, the weather is so
good it's it's almost easy to forget. But on a
rainy day like this, on a snowy day like this,
it's easier for me to remember that we also have
not only bad weather, we have bad government, and we
(54:45):
as a people are usually the ones that we could
end up blaming for the bad government. I expect that
I'm responsible to some extent for Trump. I could have
spoken louder, I probably could have called some people in
Georgia or Mississippi that I didn't. But then again, that's
(55:08):
like the victim. You know, it's the victim's fault, and
we are the victims. The thing that I have to
remind people and remind myself of is that Donald Trump
is a tremendous con man. He is great. How many
people do you know that could lie and be ignored
(55:33):
in the middle of the lie, believed enthusiastically at the
end of the lie, and then know that they've been
lied to and still act happy about it. And I
cannot believe that our Republican elected officials.
Speaker 5 (55:48):
Are student absolute right.
Speaker 3 (55:50):
You know, Trump is the best liar ever, that's the
one thing good he is good at. So is Mikey Johnson.
They do a stream of lies that like oh jd Vance.
They just lie in a stream and it sounds so convincing,
but every one of the things the words are saying,
they're lying.
Speaker 7 (56:07):
I'm surprised that Mikey Johnson's ability to lie. Oh you
know it's it would seem to me eating all that
good Louisiana soul food would have affected his ability to lie.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
It's like got an ai in his brain just to lie.
Speaker 8 (56:21):
My grandmother used to say, you lie like a rug. Oh,
and that's all the rug does.
Speaker 9 (56:27):
Well.
Speaker 7 (56:27):
My mother's always said that once I catch you in
a lie, I can't help but wonder how many I've
missed you in. So Trump doesn't even worry about that.
You know, he'll remind you of the lie he certainly will.
Speaker 8 (56:43):
I think part of the part of the problem while
he is that we have a guy that got in
the office that never has, never has had to pay
a price for anything that he has done, and that's unreal,
especially in America. And so in a way, I can
see why he kind of thinks of himself as a
(57:04):
king or something, because you know, he gets away with everything.
But there has to be a point, uh, And I
feel like it's coming soon.
Speaker 5 (57:15):
They let get away with everything, that's why.
Speaker 8 (57:17):
They let them, but there has to be a point,
and maybe Epstein to stay with Epstein, Is that is
that point?
Speaker 7 (57:23):
Well, I don't know. I'll bet you there's nothing in
those Epstein tapes that could make this guy blush my
bacon a little ticked off that we're that we're laughing
at him. But I think that the strongest thing that
could happen would be for Putin to tell the truth
about whatever is going on with Trump and Putin and
(57:45):
the relationship that the secrets that they hold between them.
I'm more concerned about the secrets between Putin and Trump
than I am between Epstein and Trump. Epstein's guilty enough
for the rest of the world to see Putin, like
Trump has his cheering section that makes you wonder, well,
(58:06):
what is he really got going on?
Speaker 5 (58:08):
Maybe Putin was involved with the Epstein murder.
Speaker 7 (58:12):
Maybe he did it for him, but he was he
did it here in the United States. I would expect
that there is probably more of a chance that Trump
had something to do with it than Putin. I doubt
if Epstein's records are going to make people more upset
with Putin.
Speaker 5 (58:32):
All speculative, but you know, we're worried about the sex
part of this, and we should be.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
It's terrible, But this is a murder that happened. I
believe it was a murder. That's what they're really trying
to cover up.
Speaker 7 (58:41):
I you know, I can't. I can't resist the thought
of agreeing with you on that one.
Speaker 8 (58:46):
I think I think there's several murders that have taken place.
Speaker 7 (58:50):
I think I think that some of the Republicans are
probably concerned about murders that haven't taken place yet.
Speaker 5 (59:00):
That ain't funny, Wallace, walk right up to the line there.
Speaker 7 (59:03):
That's not funny, Wallace, that's not funny. Marjorie Taylor Green
says she's not afraid, but she didn't fly home the
other day she took the train.
Speaker 5 (59:16):
She's got all kinds of hate mail and threats and
everything else. I have turned on her.
Speaker 7 (59:21):
I decided to not send my letter that was hateful
to her. She's turning around. She may become somebody that
we can count on. As a matter of fact. My wish,
my wish is that she and the congress lady from
Texas Crawford. Yeah, I'd like to see them get in
(59:45):
the room and kind of quietly settle things and come
out partners.
Speaker 5 (59:49):
Be careful who you hate, you might have to love
them later on.
Speaker 7 (59:52):
Well, that's right, that's right. And I think that both
of them have been staging levels of hate and we'll
get the chance to see about it. But one thing
about hate, I can point at it and say, I
don't use it for you, guys, I love you, and
I love the fact that you spent
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